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Huddle Up | Jaguars’ No. 1 Rush Defense To Face Top Rusher Jonathan Taylor · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up Roy by the Field Total GUK
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former
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  Speaker 1: Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P. Shatick bring
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  Speaker 1: you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now. Welcome in.
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  Speaker 3: It is Wednesday, it is Week fourteen. It is Huddle
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  Speaker 3: Up with Bucky Brooks. Busy show ahead our final look
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  Speaker 3: at the Jaguars Titans Jaguars dominating win over Tennessee twenty
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  Speaker 3: five to three, the final score to approve to eight
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  Speaker 3: and four. It's our first look at the Indianapolis Colts
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  Speaker 3: this week, first of two meetings over the next four
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  Speaker 3: weeks between the division rivals.
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  Speaker 2: And this is with first place on the line in
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  Speaker 2: the AFC South.
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  Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, the number one rusher of the National Football
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  Speaker 3: League against the jaguars number one ranked run defense. That
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  Speaker 3: is the That's what's on the marquee this week, and
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  Speaker 3: it's a huge matchup. We'll dig into the at the
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  Speaker 3: AFC South. Lead of course on the line. JP Shadwick
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  Speaker 3: with John Ozer from the Hunday Studios in Jacksonville. Bucky
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  Speaker 3: Brooks joining us from Los Angeles and huddle up with
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  Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks. Brought to you by Field's Auto Group Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 3: See Fields First, Jacksonville's premiere luxury auto group. Go to
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  Speaker 3: Fieldsauto dot Com. Bucky, they play up to Thanksgiving to
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  Speaker 3: make the run After Thanksgiving. The Jaguars are in a
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  Speaker 3: great spot right now, first place in the division. The
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  Speaker 3: Colts are coming in Battle of eight and four teams.
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  Speaker 3: Tickets available ever Bank Stadium, Sunday, one o'clock Big Ball Game.
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  Speaker 3: Be there, Bucky, how are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm really convinced.
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  Speaker 5: I mean that was a nice tease, a nice seal,
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  Speaker 5: like a lot of enthusiasm.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate it. That was a really good job JP.
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  Speaker 2: The game selles itself, Bucky.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it does. Like I mean, this is
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  Speaker 4: what you want.
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  Speaker 5: You want meaningful games at this time, and when we
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  Speaker 5: get into December, you want everything to matter and to
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  Speaker 5: have a battle for first place between.
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  Speaker 4: The Colts and the Jaguars in the Bank. Doesn't get
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  Speaker 4: much better than.
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  Speaker 6: That, Bucky. Do you remember JP?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, I he show he almost yeah almost.
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  Speaker 6: If it ain't, it ain't JPI.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, that's really what we're getting they're getting down
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  Speaker 7: to no it's it's exciting, it's uh.
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  Speaker 6: I found a stat yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: It's only the fourth time in franchise history that they
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  Speaker 7: have played a game between two Division teams Jaguars, uh
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  Speaker 7: in December, with both teams over four over five four
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  Speaker 7: teams four games over five hundred, and never with both
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  Speaker 7: teams equal with first place.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely at stake.
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  Speaker 7: They did it here in two thousand and five against
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  Speaker 7: the Colts, but the Colts were three games ahead of them.
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  Speaker 7: They did it up there against the Colts in two
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  Speaker 7: thousand and seven Colts won. And they end it up
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  Speaker 7: in Tennessee in ninety nine where both teams over, but
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  Speaker 7: those games only one of those was going to decide
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  Speaker 7: the division lead. This aside the division lead, and you know,
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  Speaker 7: it's it's a real testament, I think, Bucky to what
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  Speaker 7: this franchise has accomplished this year. They said coming in,
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  Speaker 7: it's gonna be different. We're gonna play meaningful football. It's
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  Speaker 7: not going to be a long build. We're doing it now.
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  Speaker 7: And I credit to him because I'm not sure everybody
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  Speaker 7: thought that this would change and feel like this in
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  Speaker 7: a hurry. Yes, the game's big, huge, Bucky but that
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  Speaker 7: it's here now and that this feels so right. That's
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  Speaker 7: a real thing, and it's impressive.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really impressive.
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  Speaker 5: And I can't be more impressed with the job that
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  Speaker 5: Liam con is done in terms of shaping the franchise,
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  Speaker 5: him and Tony and James like shaping the franchise, but
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  Speaker 5: really the leadership job that Liam Corn has done with
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  Speaker 5: the team in terms of fostering an environment where you
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  Speaker 5: do have a tough, hard working group, guys who buy in,
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  Speaker 5: Guys who've exhibited more resilience and grit this season because
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  Speaker 5: it hasn't been perfect and I don't even think they're
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  Speaker 5: close to playing their best ball, but they found a
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  Speaker 5: way to be in a spot where they can make
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  Speaker 5: a legitimate run down the stretch. And for any team,
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  Speaker 5: that's exactly what you want. You want to be in
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  Speaker 5: a position to make a run, a legitimate run into
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  Speaker 5: AFC when we get into this part of the year.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and both you guys have been doing this here
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  Speaker 7: for a long time. It's like I have JP and
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  Speaker 7: you and I came in around the same time in
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  Speaker 7: the early part of the last decade, which.
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  Speaker 6: Which makes it all so long time ago, Bud, But this,
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, twenty.
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  Speaker 7: Two, this doesn't feel miraculous. Yeah, I mean, this doesn't
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  Speaker 7: feel weird like an outlier. And maybe that year did.
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  Speaker 7: I'm just remembering because it fell apart. But there's nothing
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  Speaker 7: about this that feels like, oh, they're putting it together
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  Speaker 7: with miracle finishes and this just feels like where this
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  Speaker 7: team's supposed to be right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty two is like they rallied down two scores
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  Speaker 3: in December every game it fell.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not trying to dismiss that, because every season's own thing.
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  Speaker 7: That was a great memory.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you on that, because you know what, and
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  Speaker 3: this is the start of something. In theory, they should
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  Speaker 3: only get better as the seasons go along, if they're
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  Speaker 3: drafting well and playing free agency nicely and all that.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that they're in this spot now in year one,
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  Speaker 3: with the roster they have and the injuries they have,
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  Speaker 3: that's a great sign.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And that's why I say they haven't played their best
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  Speaker 5: ball yet because some of those guys that have been
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  Speaker 5: missing the middle part of the year, they're poised to
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  Speaker 5: come back. We saw Brian Thomas Junior come back. We're
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  Speaker 5: hopeful about Trayvon Walker and Eric Ormstead being able to
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  Speaker 5: come back and be major contributors, and some other guys
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  Speaker 5: along the way that can come and help. But I'll
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  Speaker 5: say this, watching Trevor play, watching him perform against Tennessee,
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  Speaker 5: the connection into chemistry that's being built with him and
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  Speaker 5: Jacobe Myers, and Whatdd's established with Parker Washington, Britton Strange
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  Speaker 5: jumping to the mix, going to touchdown right away, and
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  Speaker 5: then throw in the X factor, which I would say
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  Speaker 5: is Brian Thomas Junior. Like, you can begin to see
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  Speaker 5: this offense make some way and be the offense that
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  Speaker 5: we envision Because against Tennessee, and we're talking about that game,
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  Speaker 5: they weren't able to run the football, but the passing
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  Speaker 5: game was able to.
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  Speaker 4: Carry the water.
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  Speaker 5: And as we get into these games against these tough teams,
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  Speaker 5: the running game is not going to be a major factor.
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  Speaker 5: We are gonna have to throw it to score points
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  Speaker 5: and do those things. So I'm hopeful, I'm optimistic that
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  Speaker 5: the best is yet to come when it comes to
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  Speaker 5: this offense and the way that this team is gonna perform.
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  Speaker 3: And they got the defensive side, of course. In last
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  Speaker 3: week's game, they gave up the early field goal and
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  Speaker 3: then like one hundred and eighteen yards the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the day, seventy yards of the opening drive for Tennessee
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  Speaker 3: and then they just shut it down from there and
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  Speaker 3: it was over and suffocated them. And they're the number
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  Speaker 3: one rushing defense in football and they feel like that.
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  Speaker 3: Josh Aden's Allen, at least in the locker room said today,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, Consistently he's been getting pressures as the
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  Speaker 3: season goes along, and he's kind of back on that training,
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  Speaker 3: which is good. And again, they don't have the full
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  Speaker 3: arsenal either up front right now. On the defensive line
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  Speaker 3: Armstead and Walker without the secondary has been rotating around,
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  Speaker 3: but they're finding a way to scheme some things and
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  Speaker 3: get in the backfield.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I I never do a very good job of saying it,
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  Speaker 7: which is, you know, when you work with words, words
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  Speaker 7: you know sometimes aren't your work. I think the most
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  Speaker 7: defining characteristic of this team has been that it's held
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  Speaker 7: to its identity as much as as possible. But you know,
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  Speaker 7: every week they're either changing a position because they need
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  Speaker 7: better from it, they're trying to get more to their identity.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's what you see with Parker Washington and
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  Speaker 7: with with chi Kobe Myers. I keep on talking about
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  Speaker 7: the fact they've changed their receiving cores on the fly,
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  Speaker 7: then packaging with that with Look, Trayvon Walker, I still
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  Speaker 7: think is their best defensive football player, and he has
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  Speaker 7: not been right since week two or whenever he broke
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  Speaker 7: his hand, I mean not broke, I misspoke there, but
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  Speaker 7: whenever he heard his wrists or you know, since the
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  Speaker 7: San Francisco game. He really hasn't been like a super
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  Speaker 7: tray On. Jordan Lewis out, Eric Murray out, now, Eric
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  Speaker 7: Armstead out last week, Bucky, you know, next man up
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  Speaker 7: is such a cliche, but this team's doing it. But
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  Speaker 7: it's also finding guys who were good along the way
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  Speaker 7: and doing that Strig out and bj Green and Monteric Brown.
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  Speaker 7: They really don't They really do hold two true to
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  Speaker 7: their premise of look, we don't care where you're drafted,
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  Speaker 7: we don't care about your forty. If you're playing good football,
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  Speaker 7: you're going to be the guy playing. And it feels,
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  Speaker 7: Bucky like that has been embraced by the whole locker
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  Speaker 7: room and that that's sort of the core of what's
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  Speaker 7: going on.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it has been embraced by that and you know
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  Speaker 5: what that does is foster's a lot of optimism in
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  Speaker 5: the locker room that if I work hard, if I
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  Speaker 5: do all the things that I can do to put
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  Speaker 5: myself in a position to play on the practice field,
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  Speaker 5: I will be granted that opportunity. And when you get that,
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  Speaker 5: you get a more competitive team, a more competitive environment,
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  Speaker 5: and that leads to better development.
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  Speaker 4: Of the overall team.
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  Speaker 5: And what we have really seen is we've seen a
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  Speaker 5: bunch of concerns that we had about all these young
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  Speaker 5: guys are gonna have to play in the secondary. And
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  Speaker 5: what happened when they played, They played well, They played
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  Speaker 5: to the standard, and the coaches have been able to
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  Speaker 5: kind of work around whatever deficiencies or inexperiences that they
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  Speaker 5: have to get this team playing really well. And I
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  Speaker 5: think it takes a very confident coaching staff to be
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  Speaker 5: able to say we're gonna play these young guys. We're
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  Speaker 5: not gonna go and try and find our answers outside
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  Speaker 5: the building.
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  Speaker 4: We believe in what we have here and we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: let them go.
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  Speaker 5: And man, it has worked out because you look at
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  Speaker 5: the musical chairs, not only the secondary, but what about
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  Speaker 5: the offensive line. How many different combinations they've had to
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  Speaker 5: play with over the last four or five weeks, and
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  Speaker 5: it's worked. It's really one the better coaching job that
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  Speaker 5: I've seen in terms of just getting a team ready
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  Speaker 5: to play and not making excuses for what you do
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  Speaker 5: have or what you don't have when it comes on
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  Speaker 5: game day.
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  Speaker 7: I've never been around a team that says they're gonna
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  Speaker 7: not do that JP. Yeah, but I haven't been around
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  Speaker 7: very many actually do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You actually got to follow it up and do it.
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  Speaker 2: And this teams so far there is doing it.
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  Speaker 3: And now it sets up a big ballgame this week
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  Speaker 3: against the Indianapolis Colts. Both teams eight and four battle
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  Speaker 3: for first place in the AFC South. Will return and
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  Speaker 3: dig into the Colts.
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  Speaker 2: They lost a couple in a row. We'll get into
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  Speaker 2: some reasons why.
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  Speaker 2: This is huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 8: I'll playing one and more talented players in the league.
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  Speaker 8: If you try to arm tackle him, you know that's
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  Speaker 8: that's not exactly a s to be for success. You
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  Speaker 8: know he can take them eighty and ninety and he
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  Speaker 8: also can get some of the tough, hard yards and
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  Speaker 8: in the past game they've used them. I think at
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  Speaker 8: a pretty good click this year as well, So very talented.
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  Speaker 8: We have to be at our best this week in
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  Speaker 8: terms of clamp tackling, pursuit to the football. It's going
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  Speaker 8: to truly take all eleven when it comes to getting
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  Speaker 8: him down on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 3: It is huddle up with Bucky Brooks head coach Liam
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  Speaker 3: Cohen earlier today discussing the Colts running back Jonathan Taylor,
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  Speaker 3: Glad you're with us Wednesday, Week fourteen. The Jaguars and
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  Speaker 3: the Colts coming up for the first time of two
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  Speaker 3: meetings and four weeks between these division rivals, this one
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  Speaker 3: for the division lead JP Shadrick, John Osier from the
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  Speaker 3: Hyundai Studios and Bucky Brooks joining us in Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 3: and let's dig into the Indianapolis Colts and Jonathan Taylor,
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  Speaker 3: the league leader in rushing yardage just under thirteen hundred
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  Speaker 3: yards the season, fifteen rushing touchdowns that's.
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  Speaker 2: Number one in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: He has the longest run in the league this year
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  Speaker 3: at eighty three yard touchdown, A few weeks ago against
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  Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons, third most attempts in the league. It's
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  Speaker 3: a priority for Indianapolis and a priority for the Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: number one rushing defense.
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  Speaker 2: Good on good this week, Bucky, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Good on good.
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  Speaker 5: And he has to be the where it starts. He
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  Speaker 5: has to be where the game plan starts. Public enemy
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  Speaker 5: number one, Jonathan Taylor, because if he gets going, it
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  Speaker 5: allows everybody else to operate comfortably in their offense. And
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  Speaker 5: when we talk about Jonathan Tay, you talking about someone
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  Speaker 5: who's big, fast, and physical. You talked about his ability
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  Speaker 5: to take the distance from anywhere on the field, but
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  Speaker 5: also he has that grind it out mentality that he
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  Speaker 5: can get stronger as the game goes on, provided he
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  Speaker 5: gets enough carries.
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  Speaker 4: And you have to think a team that has lost
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  Speaker 4: three out of dead last.
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  Speaker 5: Four, when they're looking for a way to get out
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  Speaker 5: of the hole that they've dug themselves, it's going to
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  Speaker 5: center around Nathan Taylor being a big part of that.
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  Speaker 4: So, Yeah, gets your big boy pass on.
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  Speaker 5: This is going to be an old school fight when
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  Speaker 5: it comes to dealing.
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  Speaker 4: With him at the line of scrimmage and deal with
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  Speaker 4: this Colts right.
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  Speaker 3: Now, John I've failed to mention that he also has
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  Speaker 3: some other long ones to an eighty yard touchdown against
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  Speaker 3: the Titans in late October, a forty six yard touchdown
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  Speaker 3: against them again in September sixty eight order against Denver.
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  Speaker 2: He does it all the time.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's really good.
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  Speaker 7: And I got a question this week, you know which
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  Speaker 7: Taylor is better, Fred or you know? I mean Colts
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  Speaker 7: fans and Jaguars fans, back and forth. Look, Fred Taylor
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  Speaker 7: is one of the best running bass I've ever seen. Most
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  Speaker 7: players don't belong in the conversation. Jonathan Taylor belongs in
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  Speaker 7: the conversation. I would guess Fred Wild tell you the
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  Speaker 7: same thing this This guy is for real on Sunday.
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  Speaker 7: I actually don't mind if there's a fifty yarder somewhere.
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  Speaker 7: What you don't want to see is what we've seen
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  Speaker 7: from this guy before, where it's seven and eight and
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  Speaker 7: getting it, Where first and ten early in the game
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  Speaker 7: turns into second and three, right, Like, it's such a
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  Speaker 7: down and distance game. Now, if you stop him two
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  Speaker 7: and one and he gets an occasional that's okay because
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  Speaker 7: he can do Mean, it's not okay, but it's better
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  Speaker 7: than just the slow bleeding that you get from this guy.
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  Speaker 6: Sometimes.
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  Speaker 7: I usually there's a lot of different matchups that you
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  Speaker 7: look for. To me, I think this is one of
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  Speaker 7: those where the obvious is the obvious for a reason,
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  Speaker 7: and if you stop him, if you frustrate him. It
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  Speaker 7: feels he's been held under a hundred last two games.
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  Speaker 7: It feels like teams are starting to stack it, and
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  Speaker 7: that with Daniel Jones's injury, they're not as capable as
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  Speaker 7: they were in the season of making teams pay for
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  Speaker 7: stacking it.
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  Speaker 6: Bucky, you know.
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  Speaker 7: What do you read into the last two games where
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  Speaker 7: it's been a little more teams have controlled this offense
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  Speaker 7: a little better than they used to. Is his team's
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  Speaker 7: case fluky? Is it Daniel Jones injury?
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  Speaker 4: I mean it's a combination of everything.
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  Speaker 5: Like the more you put it on tape, the more
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  Speaker 5: people make it a point to stop. And when Jonathan
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  Speaker 5: Taylor has gotten going, he's been a problem for everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Also, when you look at.
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  Speaker 5: This team, Daniel Jones has been able to operate comfortably
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  Speaker 5: from the pocket early in the year, and he was dealing,
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  Speaker 5: he was taking care of the football and those things.
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  Speaker 5: But as you begin to take away Jonathan Taylor. It
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  Speaker 5: appears that the clock strikes midnight on Cinderella, and what
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  Speaker 5: teams are deciding is they want to make Daniel Jones
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  Speaker 5: go from being a game manager to being a game changer.
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  Speaker 5: And he hasn't been able to make enough plays for
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  Speaker 5: the coach to be able to survive when he has
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  Speaker 5: to be the primary force when it comes to driving
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  Speaker 5: that offense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got a broken leg now too.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean that's the amount of team. But
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  Speaker 4: he's playing, and so he's playing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he was turning it over before the person
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  Speaker 5: wins field, and so it's one of those things. But
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  Speaker 5: if he's gonna play with the broken leg and he's compromised,
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  Speaker 5: then that's then you just want to make sure that
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  Speaker 5: he doesn't have a big game hobbling along on the perimeter.
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  Speaker 6: Buck, he's a new sympathy guy.
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  Speaker 4: He's play, he decides to play. He plays out there, right,
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  Speaker 4: That's what it is.
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  Speaker 5: And I would tell the guys, if he's playing with
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  Speaker 5: a broken leg and we can hit him, we need
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: to hit him.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's just what it is.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: This is tackle football. John not too hand touched.
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: And it's significant that you know, the Jaguars pass rush
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: in the last three weeks. I'm not sure what the
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: numbers are. It's eleven in the last three weeks sacks,
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: I think somewhere in there. I really don't care what
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: the numbers are because it's been real, you know, and
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: the pressures have been real, and uh, the last three
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: teams the Jaguars have played have had trouble protecting their
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: quarterback against the Jaguars no matter what the numbers have been,
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: and it feels for real the pass rush Bucky, and
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: you know, I guess what, when you've got a run
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: defense that feels real and a pass rush that feels real,
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: then that adds up to the defense being real. Right, absolutely, Yeah.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: I'll probably say that probably been the best thing of
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: late that has happened since Da Bibweik, that the pass
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: russ has started to come on. And it's not always
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: revealed in the numbers, but I will say, josh hanz
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: Allen five and a half sacks over the last five games,
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: you're beginning to feel his presence more.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: And if it's not resulting in sacks, it's the pressures.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: It's just the disruptive nature of the way that he's
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: playing on the edge, and let's be honest, he's having
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: to do it a lot by himself because Eric Armstead,
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Traymon Walker injuries.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: In and out of the lineup.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: He's had to kind of do it with all the
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: focal point being on him. So you love that, But
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna say pass rushing coverage work together. They've been
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: better in the back end, not surrendering as many big plays,
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: keeping the ball in front, closing rally and tackling. And
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: as they're beginning to kind of put it together defensively,
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: you're beginning to see this team played a kind of
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: confiventery ball that you have to play to win.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Speaking of the sacks to your point, John, eight sacks
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: of the first seven games of the season combined, and
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: then after the bye the last five games sixteen sacks,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: the last three games twelve sacks.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're getting the heated up.
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, sorry, JP. Some of it is what we talked
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: about earlier. Streak Allen Green, you know, zero point five
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: sacks between them, and I get that, but look, they're
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: they're the best guys to be in there, and they're
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: playing I think a big guy that can't be overlooked
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: he's not a sack guy, but Devon Hamilton, you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: might be the best player in the defensive line. With apology,
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: I mean, Josh Heines Allen sacks. We all see Devon
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: Hamilton's impact. Early in the season, Remember Josh Heines Allen
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: stood in front of his locker and talked about d
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: ham being the best nos tackle in the NFL, and everybody,
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: I think kind of went, Okay, well, that's nice to
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: say about but.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: It's look, they're number one in the NFL and run defense.
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: You don't get there without somebody on your interior being dominant,
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: and d Ham's ability to do that is what has
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: put them in pass rush situations. Again, there's just so
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: many different parts of this team where different things are
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: coming together, Guys playing at a high level.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: That you don't think about. I like Devan Hamilton.
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: I didn't think before the season he'd be a major
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: reason why they were eight and four and why all
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: was sudden Their defensive.
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: Front felt like a really good front. So yeah, I'll
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: just gushed about that.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Bucky, why is he playing so well?
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: You know, I don't know, man, I think sometimes it
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: just clicks sometimes, you know.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: We talked about the number one thing.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: When it comes to player evaluation is fit in scheme,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: and maybe he's a better fit in the scheme that
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: he's playing. He is playing well, he's playing hard, they're
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: getting after it, and and I will say just the
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: overall energy from that defense.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: They are hard playing defense each and every week. I
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: feel like they upped the.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: Physicality and as we get into the months of December,
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: you don't need that interior presence that Hamilton has provided.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: And let's say say this.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Because he saved us against Tennessee and it was talked about,
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: but I think people have to appreciate what he did
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: stepping in as the long snapper under the rest and
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: there were like four or five opportunities that he had
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: to go out there and snap it in. It got
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: kind of hairy when it came to them getting close
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: and almost blocking the punt, but he did a really
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: good job of kind of saving our bacon because that
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: thing is always dangerous, particularly there we're backed up and
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: this is a team that needed some life and a
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: block punt would have certainly smarked them.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: It would have made for a very very tough effort
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: on Sunday.
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: Well, no, forget JP, he snapped in the first half,
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: not the second, and the first half is fifteen to three.
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: And there was that moment at the end of the
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: first half where the Titans had the ball in the
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: twenty if they score there as fifteen to ten, you know,
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: And NFL games are so much different based on if
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: you're down six compared to twelve, if one of those
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: d Ham snaps goes through the uprights, yeah, you know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: or doesn't get a field goal or a pat Those
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: were huge in those moments because that game it felt
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: like a blowout at eighteen to three, didn't feel like
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: a blow out of fifteen.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: To three, and.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: Because the Jargar's offensive kind of stalled a little bit,
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: they had four straight three and outs. So yeah, those
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: were big, big moments in again, everybody always rights, oh
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: why didn't they blow them out? Over the most NFL
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: games are not blowouts. They're winning situations that gets you
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: to big leads where you can then control control what's
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: going on. And I thought d ham stuff was really
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: big on that front.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he had not gone down and covered a punch
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: in the NFL either. He said that was a new
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: experience for him, and he also said, I hope Ross
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: doesn't get hurt anytime soon.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of pressure, man.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: You can just see him down the here, sweating bullets,
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: trying to figure out how to get this done. I
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: can tell you that Ross and Logan have a very
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: methodical approach when it comes to the way that they
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: warm up and practice in those things. And having to
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: see Hamilton go over to the side and snap over
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: and over and over again.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: With something else.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: But it made for a very ancient day because you
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: have him snap and you got Logan Cook trying to
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: start fights. You got all kinds of stuff, people all
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: out of sorts, all a lot of sorts on the sideline.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: But that is what the Tennessee Titans bring out of
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: the Jaguars.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: It's a very bitter rivalry.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: That's what we learned. Jp when Logan Cook has had enough.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Enough, he.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Had enough ready, he's ready to go. He wanted all
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: the smoke.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And Ross Madison too, you don't mess with our punter.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Boom and you know what with a bad back too.
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: You know, look it's flags and Liam said after it,
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: and I get you know what, guys.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: Thrown out of a game, but it's football.
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: This is sort of like this is the fun stuff
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: that you remember. I mean, it probably wasn't fun for
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: forty two there, but you know you're you're supposed to
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: have some of this as coffin.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: You say it's not passing tap.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. No, I mean, I mean, this is
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: what it is.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: And actually I appreciated it like it should be a
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: bitter robbery. There should be some healthy conflict and some
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: confrontations when it comes to division robberies, and I would
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: anticipate it being like that in Indy. I would be
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: disappointed if it's not a little prickly when it comes
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: to these two teams playing for first place on Sunday should.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Be let's come back. We'll dig into this Colts defense.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: They're missing some key pieces coming into this football game.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: We'll dig into that when we come back. The Colts
• 23:55
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• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: Really good players for one, obviously, but also the way
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: they're coach, their scheme, the things that they do, I
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: think they make it hard on offenses, whether it's identification
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: and some of their pressures that they bring. They change
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: the look for quarterbacks a lot. They do a good
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: job disguising I mentioned the pressures already. You know, they
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: do a lot of different things to try to keep
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: you off balanced. I think they have really good plans
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: going into each game. So a lot of respect for
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: you know, lou their defensive coordinator, and obviously all the
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: guys that are playing out there. To the players, they're
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: really good players and flying around. They're doing a lot
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: of really good things right now, and they're having a
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: great year.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: So it'll be a good challenge for us as a quarterback,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: of course.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence discussing the Colts defense, Welcome back.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: It's week fourteen, the Colts and the Jaguars meeting in
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: at EverBank Stadium this Sunday, one o'clock kickoff time, first
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: place on the line in the AFC out JP Shadwick,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: John Oser in Taxonville, Bucky Brooks in Los Angeles in
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: time for the defensive coverage of the game, presented by
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• 25:11
  Speaker 3: But we take a look at the Colts defense that
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence was talking about.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: You see the stats on the screen.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Their top ten rush defense, takeaways, top ten there points
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: per game allowed, just under twenty one per game, pretty
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: good in the red zone.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: They are without some key pieces though.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: The Forrest Buckner has on injured reserve and I could
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: come back at some point, but he's not available this
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: week to come back. And then Sauce Gardner, with a
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: calf injury last week, was seen in the locker room Wednesday,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: apparently without a brace or anything on that leg. He
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: had crutches after the game, but by the reports, he
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: was playing mini basketball in the locker room today, so
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: take that for what it's worth.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Steichen says, most.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Likely not going on ir less than four weeks, so
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: a question mark about him this week. Those are two
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: big pieces what stands out the most bucky about this
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Colts defense.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: And how big are those two losses.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, those are huge losses because those guys that
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: are counting on. But I'll tell you this, the biggest
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: challenge that you have with the Colts has nothing to
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: do with their personnel and more to do with the
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: tactics and the strategies from lou Anarrumo.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: He is a guy that's.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Going to throw a bunch of different things at you
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: to really try and keep you confused, to keep you
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: guessing as to.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: What's coming next.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Now, losing Sauce Gardner hurt them because they had a
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: revolving door at that corner opposite Tavaris Ward. So they're
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: gonna be some opportunities in the passing game to attack
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: on that side of the field. But when it comes
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: to trying to disrupt the rhythm of the running game.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: In the passing game, he's gonna throw some funky stuff out,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: and so the Jacks have to be ready.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: They have to adjust, and they have to do what.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: They've always been able to do is make solid adjustments
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: at halftime to be able to attack. But yeah, this
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: is gonna be a tricky game because before we've talked
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: about the personnel new hand and Rumo's game plans are
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: really really difficult for quarterbacks.
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I gotta be honest, if I had
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: to choose, I would rather saw Scardner play than to
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: Forest Buckner. Not I mean I saw Spartans, Yeah, I
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: saw s Gardner's great, but getting him out of the
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: middle the way this team wants to play, which the
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: Jaguars obviously want to run. They did not run well
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: last week, especially on the interior.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: You got those bodies for Tennessee. That's why.
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: So you know, uh, I believe this game, as much
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: as you can be in the NFL these days, is
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: run game versus run game. And you know, obviously there's
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: gonna be big pass plays because it's it's an.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: Nture of the league right now.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: But if the Jaguars can get things going on the
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: interior run even effectively in the high nineties, uh, then
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: I think that's huge advantage Jaguars. And I'm just more
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: a defensive line guy then I am a a secondary
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: guy in the sense that if you can make a
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: team vulnerable on the defensive line, then you know you'll
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: have time to do what you want to even if
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: it's a great secondary.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Wow, he says, no, just no regard for dbs.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: They're just out there just I don't know, just eating
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: hot dogs, just hanging out while you guys do everything.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Would Card Yeah, well, yeah, you know what I mean.
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: It just fell out that I've said for a long
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: time when Jalen Ramsey was here, even I wouldn't draft
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: a corner in the top ten. No what we're talking about,
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: because I believe that you can throw away from a
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: great corner.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: You can't throw away from a great defensive ends.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Find him anywhere, just go to the fair go to
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: the fair grounds and just hey, just need a corner,
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: Just pick one up and just go back and go.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: Let's put him in the Jags uniform and make it play.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, I watched the Giants disagree. I find it
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: a little disrespectful.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: I find it a little disrespectful as a former DV
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: that you just feel like we're just so interchangeable.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: We can swipe the Marquie out and put anybody in Boks.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: You're vital here.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, absolutely gotta have. You can't play without you.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: No, but look, he's right having the forest. He is
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: the biggest disruptive at the point of attack, and so
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: you remove him from the lineup, it's a different pass rush,
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: it's a different run defense that you're facing.
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: They have guys that are terrific in terms of speed,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: guys off the edge, but having someone in the middle
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: that can really disrupt it at the point of attack
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: changes the way that you attack. But if you can
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: run at them and control the line of scrimmage, there
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: will be some opportunities to attack, not only in the
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: run game, but off play action and those other things.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: And as Trevor continues to get more comfortable with Kobe Myers,
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Park of Washington, Britain Strange, Brian Thomas Jr. Man, there
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: gonna be some big plays available and hopefully we can
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: put it all together with a running game and the
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: passing game works in the same game, and we get
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: a chance to see the fun offense of jaguarshow.
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: Bucky, I know what I think I saw, but I
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: like to make sure that somebody knows who knows what
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: they're seeing agrees with me. But Trevor in the last
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: couple of games looks different, more confident. We had sort
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: of said a few weeks ago, Boy, if Jacoby Myers
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: is what he looks like, and when Britain Strange gets
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: back so much trust so you know, I think we
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: have seen in twenty two and now when Trevor has
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: guys that he knows where they're gonna be. And I
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: hate to keep laboring that point, but thrown to Jacoby,
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: he looked so confident the other day. Can that sort
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: of addition, those sort of dynamics changing mean that much
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: to him?
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: It seems like they can.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent, John, I think there are a
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: few things that are working and play. I think Liam
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Polln have enough confidence to tell Trevor man let it rip,
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: let it go, quit trying to be perfect, like you
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: have got to play with the fearless mindset when we're
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: throwing the ball. That coincides with the fact that he
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: now trusts the guys that are working the middle of
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: the field.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Jacoby Myers, Parker, Washington, bread and strange and what that did?
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Man, He let it go early against the Tennessee Titans.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Even on this wash, the ball come out. I mean
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: the ball is out and it is a dark right there.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Early in the game.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: Jacoby Myers on a dig, another one to Park and
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Washington on a dig, just over and over and over again.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: The hesitant Trevor Lawrence from.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: Early in the year wouldn't make that throw, or if
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: he did make that throw, it would be late. But
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: to throw against zone coverage where people are playing vision
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: and break with their eyes on the quarterback and they're
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: breaking based on where you're looking, you have to let
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: it go early to beat that coverage, and his anticipation
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: in timing was on point. And so the confidence that
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: we're seeing from Trevor. And I said this right after
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: the four turnover debacle against the Cardinals. Even when he
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: turned it over, I felt like he was a more
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: confident player because he never stopped throwing it.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: He never he never.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: Let his foot off the gas, and that showed up
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: in Tennessee, and I'm hoping that version of Trevor Laws
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: continues to show up when we see the game on Sunday.
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: I also wondered, JP, you're happy. I remember talking to Cam.
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: Robinson a few years back when he was here and
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: we all know Big Cam. I left Cam and asking
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: him on the ozone podcast once about like he was
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: always criticized as a left tackle, you get criticized, and
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: he sort of broke it down. He said, you know,
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: in your first couple of years, you hear it. You
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: say you're not hearing it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: But you hear it.
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: And he said, after a while, you get to be
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: a five or six year veteran and you really don't
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: care about what people are saying anymore. And I kind
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: of under if Trevor at this point, not that you
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: ever care whatever, but if he basically has just sort
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: of said, you know what, Fine, say what you're gonna say.
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go play. I'm gonna go throw it.
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  Speaker 7: And I kind of thought that after the Cardinals game
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: of you know, yeah, he threw some picks and then
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: he came in after the Cardinals game and said, I'm
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: not gonna play scared. Yeah, they've said what they're gonna
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: say about Trevor by now, buck, you know nothing news.
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: Everybody's got their opinion. He probably knows I'm not gonna
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: change that. I'm gonna go play. My coach is pretty
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: is backing me. There's some language I could use, but
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: he didn't care anymore.
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: Just go by.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: And that is a liberating feeling when the player gets
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: to that point where they just don't care about outside
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: noise and opinion and they just let it go. And
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: I do feel like Trevor has gotten to that point
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: my sense. Without talking to him and asking him this,
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: I've always felt like Trevor is a pleaser. He wants
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: to please everyone around him. And when you have that
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: trade their characteristic, it's great because you're such a good dude,
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: but it can be burdensome because you're trying to please
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: all these people, and all of these people aren't necessarily.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Tied to you. And so when he shaid that, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: he lets that go, and he's just about the locker
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: room and how I'm a play.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna worry about what the outsider is right
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: or what they say about my performance.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I'm just going to play. I think it is free.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: And what we're seeing is man when he just cuts
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: it loose and plays free. He is the guy that
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: we envisioned when he was a number one overall pick back.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: In the moment, we'll take a look at the AFC
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: playoff race. The Jaguars currently the number three seed of
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: the AFC playoff picture.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: It is huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: Kind of know what's riding on these kind of games, right,
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: division games in December.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: You know, the season.
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: Doesn't end one way or the other on Sunday, right,
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: And it's just that it's our next opportunity against a
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: very quality opponent that just so also happens to be
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: in our division. And we were all fighting for it,
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: right like we are all fighting to uh stay up
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: there and to compete each week to give yourself a
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: chance at the end of the year. But your ops
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: are starting to get a little bit smaller, right, You
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: just see the windows starting to close in terms of
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: opportunities on Sundays.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Said coach Liam Cohen earlier Today.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Full press conferences from both Cohen and Trevor Lawrence at
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Jaguars dot com and Jaguars YouTube and Huddle Up with
• 35:46
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• 35:49
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• 35:54
  Speaker 3: dot Com. The Jaguars are in first place in the
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: AFC South the common games tiebreaker. Don't see that one
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: too often, but the Jaguars are ahead technically of the Colts,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: both with an eight and four overall record, two and
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: one in the division. There are those darn Houston Texans
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: hanging around a game back. Of course, a lot of
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: important football ahead for both of those teams and the
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Jaguars two. But the schedule a little bit tougher. Tennessee,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: which is great for everybody, has been eliminated. They're one
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: and eleven, zero to five in the division. So now
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars with the division lead are the number three
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: seed in the AFC playoff race through week thirteen, Patriots
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: at the top, Denver ten and two Jaguars eight and four.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: The Ravens currently the number four seed, and then three
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: teams with eight and four records in the wild card
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: at the moment, the Chargers, Colts, and Bills. The Chargers
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: have a horrendous schedule ahead. We'll see if they even
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: last and get to the wild card. Texans, of course,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: are in the hunt. The Steelers are hanging around. The
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Chiefs are on the outside looking in. They've lost to
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: all the wild card teams already, so they've lost a
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: lot of those tiebreakers, and then they lost to the Cowboys,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: so they really have no room for air. And the
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Dolphins are hanging around as well. We'll see if they
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: can make a late season run.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: But here we are.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: It's December third, and the Jaguars is the number three
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: seed in the playoff picture.
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: John, Yeah, and you know, if you're one of those
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: seven on the right, you still want that I mean
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: on the left, you still want that third team on
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: the right to lose a couple more games.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, you do.
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: I mean there's something about and that's probably holding on
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: to the past. But the Chiefs don't feel dangerous. Buck
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: And look, the whole division lead thing right now, the
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: common games, they're so far to go, the tiebreakers are
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: going to change a little bit. So they're tied for
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: the lead with the Colts basically, and.
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: But you got to win.
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: You gotta win because dangerous, I mean, this is still
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: those standings. You may as well put all what nine
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: of those teams in a bucket, because I'm not sure
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: there's any leaders except for the New England and Denver.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: I mean yes and no.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: No, it sounds like yeah when you look to the
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: far right those teams. So the Texans are seven and five.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: The other teams are six wins. So we've talked about
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: the magic number on here being ten. If the Jaguars
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: get to ten, they're going to the playoffs. And so
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: they need to win two more games, and if they
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: can get this one this week, that certainly will help
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: to give them an opportunity to get to ten. That's
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: the reality of it. When you look at the schedules.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh's schedule is difficult. They played the Ravens twice, The
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Ravens played the Stillers twice. They got the Packers in
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: another game. It's very, very difficult for them. The Texans
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: played the Chiefs this weekend, which can be an elimination
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: game for the Chiefs because they haven't won anybody. The Dolphins,
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: they're languishing down at the bottom. So in reality, if
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: you're Liam Coinn and the Jaguar, it's the Jags versus
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: the Jags, like we control our own destiny if we
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: just take care of our business however it is, and
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: get to the magic number, we're going. But what we
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: want to do, in a perfect word, is you want to.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Win the division because it gives you a better seed.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: You want to play your best ball heading into the tournament,
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: having some momentum, even though some would say that doesn't exist.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: But you want to give yourself a chance to make
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: a run home game in the bank. So you win
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: two three games and then there we are in San
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: Francisco playing for it all.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Wow, all right, you want to lock that, Bucky?
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: I like that now.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: I mean I don't want to lock it, but I
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: think of any of the years, yes, this is the
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: year where it could be a realistic possibility because there's
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: not a super team in the AFC, there's not one
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: team that you can look at and be like, oh,
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: this team is the most complete. They don't have any
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: flaws or whatever, like from the Patriots to the Broncos.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Who we will see in a few weeks.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, it is as wide open as I ever
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: can remember a conference. And when you talk about those
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: paid those pest he Texans or the Chiefs now wanted
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: to be in like man, there there is a path
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: in a road for the Jaguars to do it without
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: getting ahead of ourselves because we're processory in it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Not results driven. But my focus right now, you know
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: it was thinking the same thing right now. Probably the
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. They got the quarterback, they're in it. The
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Chiefs are behind them.
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: Any team Becky's point eighteen that gets in. If you're
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: the if you're the Ravens, yeah they lost the other night,
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: you're thinking that, Hey, you know we've been knocking on
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: the door out everybody's criticizing Lamar or whatever.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: This could easily be a year where.
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: A team like that gets in. He makes a couple
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: of plays and like you're holding up a trophy. So
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: holding up with Lamar Hunt trophy, I think once you
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: get there the NFC teams, there is a feeling with
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: a couple of those that, Okay, these guys anna.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: Be tough to beat. But look I thought that last week.
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: And then Carolina beats the Rams, So it's it's why
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: wide open.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, that is a great example the Carolina Panthers,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: who I saw against the San Francisco forty nine ers
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: and the Niners tried to give them the game and
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: they wouldn't take it. The next week, they go toe
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: to toe against a team that many of us felt
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: like was the best team in football, and they knocked
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: them out. So you talk about playing your best ball,
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: just getting into the tournament, and just want against it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: I probably talked about this a little bit last week,
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: but look, we're Jaguar's analysts, so we follow this team.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: But when I was covering the Colts back in the
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: day six late in the year, they struggled, bounced around,
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: they got Bob Sanders back, and all of a sudden,
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: that turbo Chargeman they got going. I'm not saying this
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: team is going to turbo charge away to the super Bowl,
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: but you're eight and four, and as Bucky talked about
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: a lot earlier in the season, just play however, you
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: win and get to December in position.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: They done that, and good job, Bucky.
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: That's why your names on the podcast now all of
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: a sudden, like Bucky's been saying, Btjs an X factor.
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: He Travon hasn't been Trayvon since week three. And when
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: Travon's right is a superpower player. Eric Murray's coming back.
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: That's three.
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: You know, Jordan Lewis is back now, and you know
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: those are three or four of their guys and Armstead
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: and you know, all of a sudden, the BTJ thing
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: is really interesting is I don't know if he's going
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: to be this year what he was last year, but
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: he can get you a big plays.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: He gets to a game, yeah, and he can flip
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: in the field, look out, he can.
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: Do things that the other team can game plan for
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: and he can still beat that. So that's interesting when
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: you start getting in December, because there's always stories like
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: that on teams that go and they're standing there and
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: they're a Sports Center feature, right, and you know that
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: sort of thing. It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: really interesting because they're getting guys back who can elevate them.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: And I'm saying this, and I'm putting on a record,
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: I believe BTJ is the most important piece of a
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: potential championship puzzle because if he comes back and is
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: anything close to what he was his rookie season, we
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: have an opportunity to go from good to great on offense,
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: and that is the thing that changes the dynamic.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: And that is why it is one of those things
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: where you want to hang in there, hang with them.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: He's gone through the struggles in those things, but as
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: we get into these matchups, you have to have one
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: person who can beat any coverage, and on our team
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: on the roster, he is the only person that's dynamic
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: enough to do that. And so some way, somehow we
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: have to keep him engaged and he has to meet
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: us halfway because I think felt like the effort that
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: he displayed unto Jacobe Myers play was him turning the
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: corner and kind of becoming more like everybody else when
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: it comes to that. And if he gives that kind
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: of effort when the ball is not going his way
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: and then makes the plays when it goes his way,
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: you'll see our team explode.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: We'll go to the next level.
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it probably isn't a great analogy, but Buck, you
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: remember in ninety six when you were playing dB the
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: position that doesn't matter, but and then all of a sudden, late,
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: all of a sudden, Jimmy was Jimmy right, and all
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: of a sudden, Keenan's making a play against the Broncos.
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: There was above the x's and o's. And maybe there's
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: some combination there, you know, but in the playoffs and
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: late in the season, you need those guys who are
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: all of a sudden above the x's and o's, and
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: that team took off with those kind of developing players.
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: It's probably not an exact analogy, but I think very similar,
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: very similar, because it could be that kind of thing.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Jimmy came on like game busters those last six
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: or seven games after we got rid of Andre Risen,
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: and he stepped in and he and Mark developed that chemistry.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: It was big play after big play, and no one
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: can forget that played down the sideline against Denver in
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: the postseason. You have to have people that can go
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: above the ex's and notes he had one, Keenan had another,
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: and Jacoby Myers reminds me a lot of Keenan in
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: a weird kind of way, like it does feel like
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: a little recreation of some of those things.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: Well, smart, tough, catches the ball and runs great routes.
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's it's pretty good.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know who this is. Bucky
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Brooks is though.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know who's I don't know who's the version,
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: you know, the not important person that is just kind
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: of the bird on the trips. We gotta figure that out.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: I gotta name somebody.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: That's what crow your hair, buck.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: That's love that Week fourteen is here. The Colts and
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars, both teams eight and four, battle for first
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: place in the AMC South. Tickets are going fast EverBank Stadium,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: the sit one o'clock kickoff time this Sunday. If you
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: don't get to this one, this is what it's all about.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: The regular season, first place on the line. Jaguars dot
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  Speaker 2: Bucky, have a great week. We'll talk to you this weekend.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Let's get it.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks out of here. John Ozier, I'm JP Shatterger.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Thanks to Joe Fortunado and Print Reeber, and thanks to
• 46:27
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• 46:29
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