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Georgia vs Ohio State: What Separates The Nation's Top 2 Teams? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buck Guyes tomorrow morning. From Monday, July twenty ninth,
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host Tom Moore. The AKBRN game in thirty
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  Speaker 1: three days, the game against Michigan in one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twenty four days. Ball camp starts on August first. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: football season is finally almost here in Columbus, Ohio, and
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  Speaker 1: that means it is time to have a old friend.
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  Speaker 1: Brett siancea of Pick six Previews on Pick six Previews
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  Speaker 1: is the book that I get. I buy it every year,
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  Speaker 1: I use it every year. I wear it out. I
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  Speaker 1: brought it with me there it is. I brought it
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  Speaker 1: with me to Big ten Media Days last week, and
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  Speaker 1: as I'm doing interviews with all these different media people,
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  Speaker 1: this sort of my sanity check. What does Brett think
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  Speaker 1: about these teams? So I don't sound like an idiot
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  Speaker 1: because I don't cover these to all of these different
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  Speaker 1: different teams. Brett covers it all. He absolutely owns the
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  Speaker 1: Power conferences, which I don't know, Brett. I guess it's
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  Speaker 1: a little easier there are fewer Power conferences now. So
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  Speaker 1: did your job get any easier this year moving from
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  Speaker 1: a Power five to a Power four, or with all
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  Speaker 1: the transfer portal. Did it just get even crazier than usual?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thanks Tom for having me on, Thanks for
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  Speaker 2: the praise. There, it's crunch time here pick six previews
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  Speaker 2: and I'm excited to talk about this twenty twenty four edition.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely the most change that I've ever seen. Now it's
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  Speaker 2: my thirteen season doing this. Most changed, not just the
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  Speaker 2: Super Conference realignment, the expanded playoff bracket, all the transfer
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  Speaker 2: portal movement. You have Nick Saban retiring and that's sent
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  Speaker 2: off another domino effective coaching carousel, even in situations like
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  Speaker 2: Chip Kelly and Jeff Hafley demoting themselves from head coach
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  Speaker 2: to take coordinator roles. Fascinating time. So a lot to
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  Speaker 2: break down, and I know it's an exciting offseason in Columbus.
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  Speaker 2: It almost has the feel of Ohio State going all in,
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  Speaker 2: pushing all the chips into the table here and going
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  Speaker 2: title or bust.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the time of year when everyone is
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  Speaker 1: always just like overflowing with excitement about the upcoming Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State football season. But I cannot think of very many
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  Speaker 1: over the last thirty years or so that have been
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  Speaker 1: quite like this in terms of the anticipation. There have
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  Speaker 1: been years in the past. You know, after the two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and two national championship, there was a big expectations
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and three, after the twenty fourteen season, there
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  Speaker 1: were big expectations for twenty fifteen. This year, there is
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  Speaker 1: not a defending national champion. They are looking, they are hungry.
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  Speaker 1: They have not won since twenty fourteen, and boy, it
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  Speaker 1: feels like they are very much a national championship contender
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  Speaker 1: this year, but there are plenty of other teams standing
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  Speaker 1: in their way, and the expanded twelve team college football playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to start right there at the top. It
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  Speaker 1: feels like Georgia one, Ohio State two is more or
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  Speaker 1: less an industry consensus, broadly speaking, and that's where you
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  Speaker 1: have those teams as well. It feels like you're you know,
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  Speaker 1: there are not a ton of flaws on either of
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  Speaker 1: those rosters. What is it to you that sets Georgia
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  Speaker 1: and Ohio State? What sets the Bulldogs just a little
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  Speaker 1: bit ahead of Ohio State right now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I think they've emerged as the two super
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  Speaker 2: teams for this year, and Georgia has done it consistently
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  Speaker 2: from the high school recruiting level, stacking number one overall
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  Speaker 2: high school classes. I've been calling them the NFL's thirty
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  Speaker 2: third team. That's just been such a pro factory recently,
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  Speaker 2: and my game Greater formula suggests last year they were
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  Speaker 2: still the number one team. I know that they did
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  Speaker 2: not complete their three heat from national titles, but that
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  Speaker 2: been an expanded bracket, an A team or a twelve teamer,
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  Speaker 2: I think my money still would have been on Georgia
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  Speaker 2: to go take home that title. So and they bring
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  Speaker 2: a lot back. This is something where amongst these dynasty programs,
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  Speaker 2: and you're familiar with this with Ohio State, you cycle
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  Speaker 2: through your star players so quickly because they go they
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  Speaker 2: leave early for the pros, so returning production and returning
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  Speaker 2: starter numbers are usually low at these programs. Georgia brings
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  Speaker 2: almost everybody back. It's it's fascinating. So I think Georgia
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  Speaker 2: is the clear number one right there one a one
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  Speaker 2: b with Ohio State, who similarly brings back so much.
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  Speaker 2: On that defense, guys could have gone pro or transferred,
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  Speaker 2: and they were able to retain a lot of star players.
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  Speaker 2: The questions a quarterback, but everywhere else they really hit
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  Speaker 2: the transfer portal hard with some headliners, you know, Jumpkins
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  Speaker 2: in the backfield. Caleb Down's one of the best freshmen
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  Speaker 2: and safeties in the country. So it looks like they're
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  Speaker 2: going all in. Like I said at the top, and
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  Speaker 2: the Chip Kelly higher also signals that they're going all
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  Speaker 2: in on this and it's gonna be an exciting season.
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  Speaker 1: So the national championship race is not the only really
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  Speaker 1: exciting championship race that Ohio State is going to be
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  Speaker 1: a part of this year. The top of the Big
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  Speaker 1: Ten is loaded as well. You have the top of
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  Speaker 1: the Big Ten as number one, Ohio State, number two,
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  Speaker 1: Oregon number three, Penn State number four, Michigan number five, Iowa.
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  Speaker 1: I have seen places that have Michigan ahead of Penn State.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think Penn State is probably a
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  Speaker 1: little better than Michigan right now. Michigan just has so
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  Speaker 1: much to replace on the offensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: But again, Ohio State and the Oregon Ducks, they are
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  Speaker 1: two teams that could play twice, potentially even three times
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  Speaker 1: this year. How do you see the two of them
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  Speaker 1: matching up? Because you have Oregon three overall in the country.
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  Speaker 1: So this is again, you know, not a thing where
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  Speaker 1: there's a clear cut top and second team in the
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  Speaker 1: Big Ten. So how do you see that matchup shaking out,
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  Speaker 1: you know, at least the first time and maybe the
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  Speaker 1: second and third times they play this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, with Oregon, they're the best of the newcomers
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  Speaker 2: coming in and to Big Ten. In Ohio state fans,
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  Speaker 2: you might have a certain image in your head of
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  Speaker 2: Oregon from ten to fifteen years ago, the Chip Kelly teams,
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  Speaker 2: where you know where they were all about speed and
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  Speaker 2: the quirky offense and some gadget offense plays when they
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  Speaker 2: were really dominating in the Pac Ten back then. This
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  Speaker 2: is built differently. This is built from the trenches out.
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  Speaker 2: This was from Mario Cristobal, the last head coach. He's
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  Speaker 2: great at developing offensive lines. And then Dan Lanning has
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  Speaker 2: continued that and really elevated their recruiting profile. So back
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  Speaker 2: in the day they were usually around the twentieth mark
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  Speaker 2: for recruiting. But now Oregon the only team in the
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  Speaker 2: country to stack consecutive top ten high school classes and
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  Speaker 2: top ten transfer classes, so they're doing it in both ways.
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  Speaker 2: This roster is really loaded everywhere. The one question I
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  Speaker 2: had for them was losing bo Nicks, But then the
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  Speaker 2: next day they went out and backfilled that with Dylan Gabriel,
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  Speaker 2: a guy from you know, he started at Oklahoma, could
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  Speaker 2: have been a Heisman contender there in late October before
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  Speaker 2: cooling off a little bit and battling an injury. But
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  Speaker 2: so they reloaded at the one big question mark I had.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of the best offensive lines in the country
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  Speaker 2: and a tough defense, so I think they're poised to
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  Speaker 2: transition well into the bit into the Big ten. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I got a chance to talk to Dylan Gabriel a
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  Speaker 1: little bit last week at Pig ten Media Days. A
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  Speaker 1: very very impressive kid. Well I call him a kid,
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  Speaker 1: and this is at least his sixth year height of
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  Speaker 1: college football, so I think he can probably legally rent
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  Speaker 1: a car at this point. But yeah, he was very impressive.
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  Speaker 1: They also got Dante Moore out of UCLA, who is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, probably maybe the second best transfer quarterback in
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  Speaker 1: the portal. He is probably more of a next year
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  Speaker 1: project for them, but yeah, they definitely reloaded it at
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  Speaker 1: that quarterback position and several other spots around the field
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  Speaker 1: as well. You know, in terms of you know, you
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  Speaker 1: look at Ohio State schedule. Ohio State has not does
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  Speaker 1: not have a great non conference schedule. Okay, let me
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  Speaker 1: rephrase that Ohio State has a bad non conference schedule
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  Speaker 1: this year, but they do have the top four teams
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  Speaker 1: in the Big Ten other than them on their schedule
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  Speaker 1: at Oregon at Penn State, home for Michigan, home for Iowa.
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  Speaker 1: Where do you think this team when you look at
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  Speaker 1: some of the other schedules around the country. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's very easy to focus on the non conference and say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's you know, that's going to be terrible. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's a terrible non conference that should be held against them.
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  Speaker 1: Where do you see the top four teams on this
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State schedule? Oregon, Penn State at Michigan, Iowa finishing.
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  Speaker 1: Is this a team, you know, an o Higo State
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  Speaker 1: team that you would expect when they're doing those College
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  Speaker 1: Football playoff ranking shows later in the season to have
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  Speaker 1: potentially three to four ranked wins and be able to
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  Speaker 1: sort of hold up a resume against the Georgia or
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  Speaker 1: someone else at the top of the poles.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, you know, the non conference will be slighted,
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  Speaker 2: but I think when you look at those conference opponents, that's.
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  Speaker 1: A tough draw.
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  Speaker 2: It's the top four in the League, like you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: and this year is different because I'm used to the
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  Speaker 2: Big ten West and Big ten East, where you have
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  Speaker 2: a predictable pool of opponents. Now this year I had
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  Speaker 2: to make this huge map on paper and grid out
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  Speaker 2: who's all playing who. It's like calculus. But yeah, o
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  Speaker 2: higher state got a tough draw, Others got easier ones
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  Speaker 2: like Iowa gets an easy draw. Nebraska is slightly easier.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, in terms of a higher states draw, that's
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  Speaker 2: three of the top twelve teams in my poll. There
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  Speaker 2: Oregon number three, Penn State number seven, Michigan twelve, and
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  Speaker 2: then you can on Iowa they're at twentieth. So four
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  Speaker 2: top twenty teams as it stands right now, that's impressive enough.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna have to earn it, though, with two of
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  Speaker 2: those being on the road. Penn State is going to
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  Speaker 2: be an electric atmosphere. Albeit it should have been the
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  Speaker 2: white out, but because of Big Fox that's now at noon.
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  Speaker 2: Still it'll be great. I almost wonder if it's really
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  Speaker 2: a one game season in terms of the importance of
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  Speaker 2: this Michigan game. And I don't have to harp to
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  Speaker 2: you guys about this. I'm sure you're you know, you're
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  Speaker 2: all over it, but I can't imagine losing four straight
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  Speaker 2: to Michigan, especially with the temperature in the room rising
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  Speaker 2: after the Michigan National title. So the pressure is definitely
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  Speaker 2: on on November thirtieth. You got to get that w
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  Speaker 2: and then see where it shakes out in the playoff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if Georgia loses an early game and they could
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  Speaker 1: lose to Alabama or Clemson, that Ohio State organ game
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  Speaker 1: could be a one versus two game, one of the
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  Speaker 1: biggest regular season games in the last decade or so
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  Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, and it might not be the
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  Speaker 1: biggest or most important win on Ohio State schedule, or
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  Speaker 1: win to get on Ohio State schedule, because yeah, there
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  Speaker 1: have been plenty of angry leftover Thanksgiving sandwhich is made
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  Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio, the last three years, so
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  Speaker 1: I think they would. Everyone in the everyone in the
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  Speaker 1: woody has a flex center, is well aware of the
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  Speaker 1: importance of winning on Thanksgiving weekend. This year. You your
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  Speaker 1: book is number one in preseason accuracy as ranked by
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  Speaker 1: Stassin dot Com. That's something that you have had on
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  Speaker 1: your cover for a number of years because it has
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  Speaker 1: remained true for a number of years. So I'm always
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  Speaker 1: interested in where you're a little bit different from the
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  Speaker 1: industry consensus, because your book has traditionally done better than
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  Speaker 1: the industry consensus. So what's one team that you're maybe
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  Speaker 1: higher on than a lot of the national sources right now?
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  Speaker 1: Is there is there a team that you think is
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  Speaker 1: maybe going to be better than the sort of industry consensus.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a couple, and thanks for bringing it up.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely a point of pride for me as a
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  Speaker 2: one man show. And you know, when they're keeping score
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  Speaker 2: like they do at Sassin dot com, I want to
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  Speaker 2: go win the thing. So uh yeah, tenyurre title. I
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  Speaker 2: want to continue that this year. Yeah. So I try
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  Speaker 2: to avoid all the other predictions until I'm locked in
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  Speaker 2: with mine, and then once I hit published, then I
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  Speaker 2: really catch up. I love reading everybody else too and
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  Speaker 2: catching up, So now that I've had it chance to
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  Speaker 2: do that after mine has been published, I think Miami
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  Speaker 2: looks like my big shock pick of the year. I
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  Speaker 2: have them winning the ACC outright, placing tenth, but in
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  Speaker 2: the new bracket that would still be fourth because they
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  Speaker 2: would be the fourth Power five champ. So yeah, with
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  Speaker 2: Miami and the ACC, it looks like it's a three
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  Speaker 2: team race between Florida State, last year's champion, Clemson, and
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  Speaker 2: Miami first with those first two Florida State, I'm impressed
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  Speaker 2: with Mike Norvelli. I called for them to win the
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  Speaker 2: league last year, which hit, but they lost so many
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  Speaker 2: guys of the pros. They're going through a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a roster reload recycle, so I think they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: take a couple losses. Clemson, I no longer view as
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  Speaker 2: a dynasty program. They were for quite some time. You
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  Speaker 2: would just pencil them in to win the ACC every
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  Speaker 2: year and you'd be right. Now. I think they're ignorance
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  Speaker 2: of the transfer portal. I think has really limited their potential,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't see them winning it. So it's wide open.
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  Speaker 2: I landed on Miami, and I'm really impressed with their
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  Speaker 2: talent acquisition from the high school ranks under Mario Cristobal
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  Speaker 2: consecutive top ten classes, and then the transfer portal too,
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  Speaker 2: brought in cam Ward, great quarterback upgrade for them from
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  Speaker 2: Washington State. Damian Martinez another probably the top running back
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  Speaker 2: right there with Judkins in the whole portal from Oregon State.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a strong team better than the record
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  Speaker 2: showed last year. My numbers suggest that this was more
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  Speaker 2: like a nine er at ten win team last year,
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  Speaker 2: but had a bad quarterback injury and bad performance down
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  Speaker 2: the stretch, so they can get past some of the
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  Speaker 2: end game coaching, like taking a knee when you're supposed
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  Speaker 2: to that has cost them several times. Now, it's crazy,
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  Speaker 2: but there my pick. I think that's somewhat of a
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  Speaker 2: sleeper nationally.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you said it. I thought I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say something mean about Mario Cristbal now after
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  Speaker 1: he's saying so many nice things. I have said plenty
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  Speaker 1: of mean things about Mario Cristobal over the years, including
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  Speaker 1: things about when he should have taken a knee and
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  Speaker 1: it was not too So I'm glad you. Glad you
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  Speaker 1: did that for me and I didn't have to be
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  Speaker 1: the bad guy there. Now I'm gonna let you be
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  Speaker 1: the bad guy. Let's hit the flip side here. What
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  Speaker 1: is one team that you're maybe a little lower on
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  Speaker 1: than in the industry consensus.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'll tell you, I'm not making many friends in
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  Speaker 2: Columbia Missouri this year. I'm definitely selling Missouri and the
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  Speaker 2: team Ohio state fans are familiar with because of the
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  Speaker 2: Cotton Bowl. Look, I was really impressed with them last year.
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  Speaker 2: It was a banner season for Missouri, eleven wins. Their
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  Speaker 2: offense was really dynamic. They were airing it out vertically,
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  Speaker 2: had I think an All American running back was strader
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  Speaker 2: and almost all of that except for straighter returns on offense.
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  Speaker 2: So I think they'll be strong there. My big questions
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  Speaker 2: and why I have them lower than anybody in the
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  Speaker 2: industry is because of the defense, and they lose so
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  Speaker 2: many star players to the pros, and they're ace coordinator
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  Speaker 2: Blake Baker, a guy I've gotten to talk to several
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  Speaker 2: offseasons now, his blitz heavy, aggressive scheme. He was plucked
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  Speaker 2: by LSU. LSU came in and gave him the biggest
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  Speaker 2: contract for a coordinator in college football history, some two
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  Speaker 2: point five million. So they took the brains of the
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  Speaker 2: operation out of there. On defense, a lot of star
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  Speaker 2: power gone, and in such a tough conference, so top heavy,
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  Speaker 2: I had them siding down the ladder a bit.
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  Speaker 1: So let's this is the first year of the twelve
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  Speaker 1: team playoff and there's a lot of uncertainty. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned some of the setup and the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the top four friends champions get the top four seeds,
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, Miami might be tense, but they're going to
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  Speaker 1: get one of those four first round by So I
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  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of stuff that people are not
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  Speaker 1: used to thinking about, not used to projecting. When you
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  Speaker 1: look at this year's twelve team college football field, you
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  Speaker 1: know what it could be outside of let's just take
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon, Texas off the table.
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  Speaker 1: Feels like those are kind of the four teams that
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  Speaker 1: people are sort of projecting is in a lot of
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  Speaker 1: cases the final four. Who else? Is there another team
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  Speaker 1: that you could see maybe making a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a cinderella run in the first year of the twelve
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  Speaker 1: team playoffs?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's definitely a couple of wildcards here. I
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  Speaker 2: think Notre Dame is going to make the bracket just
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  Speaker 2: on their schedule alone, and in the past, Notre Dame
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  Speaker 2: would have had to go undefeated to make it in
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  Speaker 2: the four team bracket. Now they definitely have one mulligan,
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  Speaker 2: maybe even two mulligans the way the thing is setting up,
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  Speaker 2: and I think they're going to go eleven to one
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  Speaker 2: and host a home game in South Bend, Indiana, which
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  Speaker 2: would be really cool for the sport. So maybe them
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  Speaker 2: Old miss is a real dark horse. This is a
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  Speaker 2: program that has never can say, internationally, never considered for
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  Speaker 2: playoff runs. But the portal King, as he calls himself,
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  Speaker 2: Lin Kiffin, he has dominated the transfer portal recruiting top
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  Speaker 2: two classes the last three years and transfer, so he's
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  Speaker 2: closed the gap with his peers in the SEC there.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're going to host a game in Oxford
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  Speaker 2: and then from there. I mean it sounds can I
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  Speaker 2: call Alabama a dark horse? I mean it sounds like
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  Speaker 2: when Nick Saban retired, it's almost like the national media
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  Speaker 2: and kind of just the fans at large, everybody, we
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  Speaker 2: all just figured, Okay, Bama's done, that whole thing is over.
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  Speaker 2: But now when the dust has settled a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: this is still a five star packed program and Calen
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  Speaker 2: Debor's approven head coach. So although it's still the Alabama brand,
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  Speaker 2: they might be being slept on a little bit.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: A dark elephant out of Tuscaloosa, all right, I will
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: allow it. With the departure of Nick Sabe and it's
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: not quite the Alabama le of recent years. So yeah,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: that's another interesting one. Last thing I want to ask
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: you about. You are a voter for the Heisman Trophy. Well,
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: who are some guys that you're watching as people who
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: might get to make that trip to New York in December.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we actually touched on a couple throughout the show.
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  Speaker 2: I really think Dylan Gabriel up at Oregon has a
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: nice shot because they're going to be a top contender
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: and he's going to put up great stats. Carson Beck
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: for the same reasons. At Georgia, he'll be the figurehead
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: of what we think is the number one team in
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: the country. I would throw Jackson Dart in there from
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Mole miss just giving the offense the Kiffin runs, and
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: if they were to put together a special season, it
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: would be because of their quarterback play. Who else we
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: have here, maybe a cam Ward if the Miami pick holds.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: That one seems like more of a long shot, but
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: could happen. An even more longer shot from a non
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: playoff team could be Nico the five star quarterback at
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Tennessee leading one of the most dynamic offenses Josh Heipel's offense,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: and now he finally has a five star arm there,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: But the running back thing, you tend to look at
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: just the quantity stats, like if a guy can go
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: for two thousand yards. Ohio State might have the two
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: best back in the country, but they're gonna, you know,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: they're gonna take each other's carries away from each other.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Same deal at Penn State, two great backs, So I
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: don't see a Heisman contender from those backfields. If you
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: had to make a running back pick, it might be
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Ali Gordon from Oklahoma State. He's gonna get his fifteen hundred,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: maybe even two thousand yards workhorse back, So that's where
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: I would land there. If you need a real X factor,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: maybe Luther Burden from Missouri. I know, I just got
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: done fading Missouri, but if they've proved me wrong as
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: a team and they go eleven and one or something,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: it'll be because Luthor Burden went crazy. So those are
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: some names to consider.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Missouri's schedule is not particularly stout this year, so
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: they could sneak in there just based on a little
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: bit of a softer schedule in Ohio State fans, so
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: plenty of Luther Burden, both during the recruiting process and
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: during the Cotton Bowl last year. All right, I have
• 16:47
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• 16:49
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• 16:53
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• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thanks so much for the praise and for
• 16:56
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• 16:58
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• 17:00
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• 17:02
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• 17:28
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• 17:32
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• 17:34
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• 17:36
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• 17:39
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• 17:42
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• 17:44
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• 17:48
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