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Lunch with the Clydesdale - Thursday Show! - Paying for the Stream is Actually a Good Thing! · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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Well,
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we got a whole lot of stuff happening
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this weekend.
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Can't wait to get into all of it
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next.
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From the gym to the screen, yeah,
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we cover it all.
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Midday motivation every time you press
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call.
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Lunch with the Clydesdale.
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Cowboy bring the heat.
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Crossfit, boobies, music on repeat.
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High-fiber hustle, yeah,
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we building that brand.
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Grab a plate, tune in now,
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you part of the fam.
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What is going on, everybody?
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We got the Fred Flintstone back today.
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Ah, so pumped for that.
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What is going on?
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What is going on?
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Shelly Young is on her way to Birmingham.
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Good luck this weekend.
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The workouts look so much fun.
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I hope you have a blast getting this
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opportunity to compete on such a big
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stage.
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I've got so many friends heading down
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there or up there or over there.
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Can't wait to tune in and watch everybody
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this weekend.
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So what is going on?
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What is going on?
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Joseph Ramirez, my hair looks great.
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Thank you.
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It looks tight.
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Tight.
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Thank you.
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I feel like a hundred times better.
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It was getting so, so long.
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I told myself I wasn't going to get
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my hair cut until I got my heart
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fixed.
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And if that meant it was going to
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be all the way down to my waist,
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so be it.
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But that's what we're going to do.
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But now the ticker's doing well,
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got the haircut, and now I feel awesome.
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And especially when I'm traveling, like,
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I like it so short and tight that
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I can just go.
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Just go quick.
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When it's long, man,
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just trying to manage it is nearly
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impossible.
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Yeah,
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not that you guys are here for my
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beauty secrets.
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So...
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But we got Vicki in the chat.
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We got Winter.
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We've got Meredith.
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We've got Shanna.
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We've got Joseph Ramirez.
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We've got Lito.
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Man, Daniel, everybody's in.
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Awesome.
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So last night I was having some kind
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of indigestion thing.
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Couldn't sleep.
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Caught up on a couple episodes of American
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Gladiator.
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and uh on the last episode i watched
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i think it's episode five finally jordan
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chef's crossfit semifinal athlete was a
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contestant on episode five what i found
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interesting in that episode is they put
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her up against danny spiegel in all in
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every event i think she went up against
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spiegel in every event and i was trying
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to think were they ever at the same
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semi-final together
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I'm sure they were both at Wadapalooza and
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have competed against each other in the
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past.
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But I found it really kind of cool
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and ironic that they put them up against
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each other in every event.
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Now, for the first four episodes,
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when they showed Dani on the screen,
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where she came from, they put CrossFit.
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On episode five, when Jordan was on,
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now they said that she came from CrossFit
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and she talked about it.
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She talked about her journey with that.
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They changed Spiegel's to say
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powerlifting.
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So I don't know if they didn't want
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like two CrossFitters competing against
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each other.
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or to talk that much about CrossFit,
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but it was,
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I just was a weird thing that I
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noticed because I'm just looking for what
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kind of exposure this thing outside of our
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space is giving to what we do.
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One of the other contestants was
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definitely a CrossFitter.
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They announced another one was, but yeah,
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it's,
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and usually crossfitters do so well in
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these made for tv fitness competitions um
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i don't want to spoil it for anybody
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who hasn't seen it but i've known jordan
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a long time there's an interview with her
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on this channel kat did it back in
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the day um i've interviewed her at events
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she's she's just a really uh
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I say good kid because I'm so old,
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but she's just a really nice lady.
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And it was fun watching her on the
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screen.
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So the other thing I'll say about American
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gladiators that became very obvious to me
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last night was Spiegel is just more
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athletic than the other gladiators.
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The other ones have a lot of muscle
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and strength and all of that stuff.
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Spiegel just looks way more athletic than
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the others.
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I'm anxious to know if anybody else has
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watched the show at all and has gotten
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that...
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gotten that impression um but that's
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that's kind of where where i i am
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with it right now that danny just is
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way more athletic than the other
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gladiators especially on the women's side
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um uh daniel arnson uh crossfit builds a
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perfect athlete i think danny had the
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right base though
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Because in CrossFit,
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everything is forward and backward.
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More forward than backward with very
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little lateral.
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And there are pieces of this gladiator
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thing where you have to have lateral
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movements and quick and fast lateral
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movements.
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And I think her base with whatever she
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did growing up gave her that like quick
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twitch side to side thing.
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And it really shows in the gladiator
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thing,
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especially against the other gladiators.
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So, yeah,
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I do think CrossFit really prepares people
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for other things.
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better than anything else in the world,
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and that includes these made-for-TV
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fitness competitions.
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Doing CrossFit prepares you for those,
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and it makes you ready to do whatever
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you need to do in those situations.
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So speaking of Dani Spiegel,
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she is probably currently in London right
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now getting ready for the WFP.
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That happens this weekend.
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That is being streamed live on YouTube
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this weekend.
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Carolyn landed this morning,
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I believe it was.
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And she sent this video that I want
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to share with you guys.
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And so this is the venue they are
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competing at.
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And I don't know if you can see
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this in the background,
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but it is one large video screen from
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floor to about double rig height.
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Carolyn's been told that that's going to
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have rep counters on it.
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And so like there is an event where
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there is a
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four-time,
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seventy-five or hundred-calorie echo bike.
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The athletes will be facing that video
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wall as they are doing it,
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and they'll see the reps counting up
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across all the lanes as they're doing the
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echo bike.
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That innovation may be something that
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makes watching
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athletes on a machine watchable as you'll
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be able to see the reps count up
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and know where everybody is.
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Plus it's going to increase the intensity
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of the athlete who can see where all
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their competitors are.
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So I'm excited to see how that plays
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out in real life.
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But man, it is, it is massive.
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this is a great demonstration that WFP is
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not pulling back any money at all.
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They are going full bore into season two
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with all the bells and whistles they can.
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Also,
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I don't know if you can see this
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up here,
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but there are TV screens and they mounted
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them all around the arena and
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and they have a clock on them,
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and they have some video display.
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So you'll be able to see the video
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feed while you're sitting in the stands.
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Daniel says,
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I'm no WFP fan or Will Morad at
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all, but that's cool.
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they have brought forth some really cool
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innovations to this and i think if they
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can find their right footing of what they
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become and what they are i i think
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they it can be a long lasting
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thing for the space it is a great
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tool for young athletes to earn some money
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and pay for a couple seasons to gain
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experience to then shoot for the crossfit
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games
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Um, uh, Lito says,
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so when the Athens throwdown had that a
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couple of weeks ago for all their
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divisions, including scaled,
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I had a friend of mine who I
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helped coach compete there.
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And she said it was awesome.
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Athens throwdown also collaborated with
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WFP.
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So maybe that was them testing it there.
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That that's pretty smart to go to like
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a, a lower level competition,
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test out the technology before you bring
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it in and put it up and do,
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uh, this really cool thing.
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So maybe,
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maybe they're getting their ducks in a row
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this season and, um,
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And we'll see what happens.
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Again, when it started last year,
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I wanted it to succeed more than anything.
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They made it hard to keep defending them
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throughout the season.
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And maybe this year,
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now that they've got it figured out,
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my only criticism going into the week
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is... I'm going to share another screen.
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Is...
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This is the lineup of female athletes for
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the weekend.
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So you have your twenty pros up on
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top and then you have your thirty
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challengers down below.
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That's a lot of athletes to get through.
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If you've ever been to a Masters
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competition watching that many athletes go
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through
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I mean,
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because it looked like a traditional
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ten-lane floor.
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You're talking five heats of women,
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five heats of men.
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They're doing teams.
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They're doing, I think,
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like a scale division of some sort.
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It's insane.
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So our very own Carolyn Prevost is there.
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She is competing to earn her pro card.
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And then you have names like Laura Horvat,
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Amy Kringle, Ariel Loewen, Emma Tall,
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Kerstetter, Sydney Wells, Annika Greer.
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Annika Greer, I think, is at Copa Sur.
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So she's actually not there.
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Lydia Fish, Emily Rolfe.
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I talked to Emily briefly this morning.
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She's doing three straight weeks of
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competition.
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I don't know if that's ever,
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ever been done.
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in in the crossfit realm competing three
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state straight weekends um she says her
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body's holding up but she's tired so
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always rooting for emily always rooting
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for emily um
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So, yeah,
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this is the lineup they have posted.
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Yeah, Craig,
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I saw her on the Copa Store leaderboard,
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so I know she's in South America right
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now.
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And then if I go to the men's
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side, again, it's the same thing.
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We have a bunch of men.
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and a bunch of challengers.
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And then on this,
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they have Colton Mertens listed.
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I've heard that he is not going.
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So that's one less on the pro side
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that will be there.
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So it is,
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but it should be a fun competition.
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They've got some big names there.
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Again, it's just the five heat thing.
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I just think they have to get right-sized.
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It was a great move removing the fact
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that the challengers did less weight and
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less of a workout and earned half the
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points to just opening it up where
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everybody who qualifies can earn the same
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amount of points.
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So, we'll see.
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Um...
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David Reed said the games did something
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similar for the marathon row.
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Too bad it hasn't been done since.
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Yeah.
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They actually had like the pictures of the
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boats going across the screen.
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That was awesome.
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I've been clamoring for something similar
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to that with ergs and machines ever since.
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And Lito says, yeah,
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that was a concept two thing for the
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ergs.
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This is pretty cool as it's essentially
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live scoring, which is pretty awesome.
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And Shay wants to know if Colton would
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have went had he qualified for the games
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from Mayhem.
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I've actually heard that he has a little
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niggle and that he is nursing that so
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that he's prepared for later in the
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season.
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And that is just rumor.
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I haven't talked to Colton or his camp
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at all.
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Seeing the cows on a screen from the
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Echo Press with Tim Paulson a few years
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ago would have been epic.
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It really would have.
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Ortega.
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He's hurt.
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I was using the Lucy Campbell term.
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Sorry.
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So we have that going on this weekend.
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We have Copasaur.
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And so I have that up.
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I believe they're going to be live
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streaming as well,
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but generally when they live stream,
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it is in Spanish.
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So if you are fluent in your high
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school Spanish,
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you'll be able to follow along.
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Here's the list of participants at
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Copasor.
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You have Andrea Pinheiro, Annika Greer.
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I know Trista Smith is there.
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Miley Wade.
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And then on the men's side,
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it's really just after looking,
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we have Jorge Fernandez.
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We have Keike Cervini.
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Kalen Souza.
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Those look to be like your top three.
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Pedro Martins is actually pretty decent.
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So that's your probably top four down at
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Copasor.
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So that's going on at Copasor this
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weekend.
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It is a heavy, heavily programmed event.
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Very similar to some of the complaints we
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had at Legends.
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You could say the same thing about
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Copasor.
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And then finally,
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we have the Far East Throwdown this
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weekend.
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Not finally,
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but we also have the Far East Throwdown.
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And I went to the wrong thing.
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Hold on one second.
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There we go.
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So here's the leaderboard for Far East
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Throwdown.
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Ariel Sanders is a beast.
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She's done well at Crash a couple times.
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Ashley Cope is a longtime games semifinal
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athlete.
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Adwan Young has represented the Far East
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before.
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So this is a list of the athletes.
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Samantha Pugh, EMOM athletes, Surya Meha.
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That looks like your lineup over in the
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Far East for the women.
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And on the men's side,
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I don't recognize a lot of the names,
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I'm going to be honest.
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The Far East I have not delved into
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as much.
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But I do know Matt Brady, great guy.
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I know Max Krieg.
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They'll be competing there.
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Riley Martin will be there.
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So got a couple names there that I
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know.
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Mostly semifinal level athletes trying to
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get their first ticket to the CrossFit
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Games.
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so um so there you have it those
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are those three are going on and then
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we have magic city happening here in the
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states a lot of my friends have been
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traveling in we talked about shelly at the
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top of the show uh corey is heading
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there now uh lauren olsen is heading in
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there uh kate
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Kate said in there, I can't,
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I can't always get her Instagram mixed up
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with a real last name.
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I think it's McGee.
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Kate McGee is going to be there.
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Uh, she usually,
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she drops in the chat periodically.
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That's going to be a fun one.
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And, uh,
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currently Birmingham is sixty-five degrees
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and breezy.
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That sounds pretty good.
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Pretty good for that bike ride.
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The one thing I did want to point
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out with Magic City is that everybody's
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saying that they're not really
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broadcasting everything.
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And that is true.
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That is true.
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Is that true?
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It is true.
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It is truly true.
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But they are doing a lot of the...
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They are doing a lot of the events
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and a lot of the divisions.
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They're just streaming one floor.
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So if you look at the stream,
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they have this out on their Instagram.
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And you can see starting at eight forty
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five,
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they're doing forty to forty four year old
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women,
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forty five to forty nine women and sixty
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plus women.
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And then at eleven forty,
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they're doing thirty five to thirty nine
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women.
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Then at one twenty,
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they're doing fifty five to fifty nine
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men, sixty to sixty four men.
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And then forty five to forty nine and
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fifty to fifty four men.
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And then finally, you can see.
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At four fifty,
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they're doing thirty five to thirty nine
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men.
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So it kind of moves around what they're
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covering, what divisions,
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what's going on and.
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so it's going to bounce around a lot.
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And again,
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this one's going to be on flow elite.
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So you can catch it there, but they,
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I,
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I did hear on the glintons the other
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day,
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I think Megan Joseph are saying that they
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were only going to cover thirty five to
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thirty nine.
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That isn't really what they're doing.
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What they're doing is just they're only
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covering one of the two floors and
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um and so that's kind of what they're
24:07
doing so train olive asks you think flow
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elite will get it together for magic city
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stream i don't know i i think that
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there are legitimate excuses and i don't
24:25
even want to call them excuses there are
24:27
legit reasons why streams don't go off as
24:31
well as you want and that is
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If you've ever traveled and needed
24:38
bandwidth internet,
24:40
which I have done trying to cover this
24:42
sport, it is very difficult for venues,
24:47
arenas,
24:50
to give you the bandwidth of internet that
24:53
you need.
24:55
And you were at the mercy of that
24:58
venue.
24:59
And for some reason,
25:01
they always protect it like it's gold bars
25:05
at Fort Knox.
25:10
I used to do conferences for an
25:13
organization I belong to.
25:15
Getting internet was the hardest part of
25:18
setting up a conference.
25:22
They protected it like it was gold.
25:25
You couldn't get them to release it.
25:27
It is ridiculous.
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ridiculous.
25:34
And so I think that is really what
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the dependency is, uh,
25:40
trained and that is on the internet and
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what they're giving, uh,
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and what they're giving them or whoever's
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doing the broadcast because flow leads
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really just the platform it's going to air
25:53
on.
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If you watch Legends,
25:56
it was all produced by the Sevon crew
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and just put on the Flow Elite platform.
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So Flow is only giving them the platform
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to put it on.
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So I don't...
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As much as I have bad-mouthed Flow Elite
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because of my PTSD from Wadapalooza in the
26:20
teens, I...
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A lot of the weekend ran pretty well
26:28
on my app.
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Shelly said,
26:35
I'm happy they are streaming anything at
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all.
26:38
And at least they already put out the
26:40
schedule so people could decide if it was
26:42
worth paying for.
26:45
Yep.
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I was going to live stream,
26:48
but I don't want to ruffle feathers.
26:51
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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See, I think that's a weird line, Larry,
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though, at Magic City.
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If they are not streaming it,
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then you're not taking away from the
27:05
actual stream.
27:08
Right?
27:10
So if they're only streaming floor one and
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you wanted to stream floor two,
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I don't find an issue with that.
27:19
where I find the issue is if they
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are streaming the event on floor one,
27:24
you probably shouldn't give a free version
27:27
of the same stream that is against like
27:31
YouTube policy, probably Instagram policy,
27:35
copyright law, all of that stuff.
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Um,
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Joseph says,
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don't forget to join Scoot for dinner with
27:48
the Clydesdale on the glintons tonight.
27:50
Yeah.
27:51
Or call me Scott, Scott or Scoot.
27:52
I answered to both.
27:59
Ortega brought,
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I can't even upload ten photos to
28:02
galleries with venue internet.
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You are absolutely correct.
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Absolutely correct.
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That is how bad the internet is at
28:12
some of these events.
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Larry says,
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I'm sure if I stream the bike event,
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Shelly will make Chase's top ten.
28:32
Train says,
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I'm giving them one more shot before I
28:35
cancel.
28:35
Well,
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what does it hurt to give them one
28:37
more shot now?
28:38
You've already paid for the month, right?
28:42
So you might as well watch the two
28:43
events that are in this first month,
28:46
see how it goes.
28:50
It's no extra money to watch the second
28:52
event in the month.
28:55
But here's my thing about the stream and
28:58
the paying for it and all of that
29:01
stuff.
29:04
We were spoiled when CrossFit came into
29:06
play.
29:07
We were spoiled because it boomed so fast
29:13
and Reebok threw so much money at it
29:16
that
29:17
you could watch everything for free and it
29:21
was of the highest quality.
29:25
Now we're realizing as we are right-sizing
29:28
to this with far less sponsorship,
29:32
with far less disposable income to take
29:37
all this on,
29:39
that we may have to resort to a
29:42
paid subscription to watch the sport that
29:45
we love.
29:49
And I've said it a million times.
29:51
It costs thirty bucks for me and my
29:52
wife to go to the movies and get
29:54
a bucket of popcorn.
29:59
And that's a two-hour entertainment.
30:02
With this, even Magic City,
30:04
I'm getting three days of probably eight
30:08
hours of entertainment that I can watch
30:11
for thirty bucks.
30:13
And I also already watch Legends for eight
30:16
hours a day for three days.
30:20
all for the same thirty dollars and these
30:24
event organizers who are losing their
30:26
shirts on events getting supplemented by
30:31
flow elite is a good thing it's a
30:35
good thing because forever we weren't
30:38
getting anything streamed they just said
30:42
screw it we can't afford it we're not
30:44
going to stream it
30:47
At least now with this,
30:48
it's out on Flow Elite.
30:50
You can go watch it.
31:06
Everyone needs to bring their own Starlink
31:08
internet.
31:09
Venues don't care about internet.
31:11
They don't.
31:12
They don't.
31:23
I believe that the Legends is still up
31:24
for replay.
31:25
I don't know that for a fact.
31:30
While I'm talking to you,
31:31
I will try to pull that up.
31:35
I have the app on my phone.
31:45
It's just probably not in the same spot.
31:52
Yep.
31:53
Legends is still up for replay.
31:57
Hell,
31:58
they still have Wadapalooza videos from
32:02
dated as the most recent Wadapalooza with
32:07
four hundred and forty five videos is
32:09
February twenty seventh of twenty twenty.
32:12
You can go back and watch Wadapalooza
32:15
videos on Flow Elite.
32:18
They have the granite games from twenty
32:20
nineteen.
32:22
They have TFX from twenty nineteen.
32:26
So not only can you go back and
32:28
watch legends,
32:30
they don't it doesn't look like they ever
32:32
delete this stuff off.
32:36
So.
32:38
So you can watch stuff forever on here,
32:40
apparently.
32:42
If I can still go back and watch
32:44
all of those events from the teens.
32:53
Personally,
32:53
I'm glad it's streaming anywhere and glad
32:55
it's a way to generate revenue.
32:57
I agree with you, Larry.
32:59
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
33:03
I'd pay immediately behind a thirty dollar
33:05
membership on YouTube directly to the
33:07
owner's channel.
33:08
I'm not paying a third party host just
33:10
because they fronted the money voting with
33:13
my wallet, as they'd say.
33:15
Well,
33:16
I think if either one was an option,
33:18
I'd be OK with that.
33:20
But with Flow Elite,
33:21
if everybody kind of band together and all
33:26
the events,
33:26
like all eleven semifinals said we're
33:29
going to be on Flow Elite,
33:31
that thirty dollars becomes spread out
33:34
over those eleven events,
33:36
where if you have to do it for
33:37
every YouTube channel that's broadcasting,
33:41
that could get way more expensive than
33:44
Flow Elite.
33:54
I don't care if I have to pay
33:55
as long as the quality is good,
33:56
especially when Mayhem stream was free and
33:59
good quality.
34:01
Mayhem has disposable income.
34:03
Other events do not.
34:10
Mark says, I'm okay with that, Scott.
34:12
I'm old.
34:12
I can afford a few bucks.
34:14
I think we're just in this weird space
34:16
right now.
34:18
Where you have some people doing it one
34:20
way, some people doing it another way.
34:22
And so it's spreading us thin in where
34:25
we direct who we support.
34:28
Right?
34:29
So that's, I think, where we need to...
34:40
Hopefully, give it another year.
34:41
Maybe next year,
34:43
all of these semifinals can be broadcast
34:46
on Flow Elite.
34:47
You pay one fee and you get it
34:49
all.
34:52
You get it all.
34:57
And then it just becomes part of what
35:00
we do.
35:13
But if we pay the separate channels,
35:14
the organizer would get the money directly
35:17
and I'd pay for that actually.
35:19
But we don't know how much the organizers
35:21
got in the deal with Flow Elite.
35:23
I don't know the financials on that.
35:26
Apparently it was enough to go with them.
35:29
They had already hired Savon and crew to
35:31
come in.
35:33
Putting it on the platform was just giving
35:35
them extra money to the pot.
35:46
our country we're full of middlemen in
35:48
this world full of middlemen and it's okay
35:51
if it gives us one place to look
35:54
for everything i would i would pay for
36:01
the convenience of not having to dig
36:03
around and find out like this weekend i
36:06
gotta find where copa sur is i gotta
36:08
find out where far east is
36:11
At least I know WFP is on YouTube
36:13
and I know that Magic City is on
36:16
Flow Elite.
36:19
It's just,
36:22
I would pay money for a convenience.
36:26
And I would pay money to put into
36:28
the ecosystem to help the whole thing out.
36:32
And I think the one point that people
36:34
are missing is when we're on YouTube,
36:37
it's just us CrossFitters that are finding
36:39
it.
36:41
these events are not being pushed by the
36:44
algorithm to other people.
36:48
When you're on Flow Elite,
36:50
there's twenty-five other sports on there.
36:53
People are looking through the menu and
36:54
they see these people doing crazy,
36:58
athletic, superhero things.
37:02
And maybe that is promoting CrossFit in a
37:06
way that YouTube doesn't.
37:15
Right?
37:16
Like, does that make sense?
37:25
Mark says, ironically,
37:26
YouTube is the middleman of my suggestion.
37:29
Yeah, if you guys only knew how much,
37:33
what percentage YouTube takes from every
37:36
super chat,
37:37
from every membership that we put in,
37:40
YouTube takes their cut.
37:44
And it's probably more than you expect it
37:46
to be.
37:55
I think the point is that quality was
37:57
shit.
37:57
I think the other point we're forgetting
37:59
is it was the first one.
38:02
It was the first one on this new
38:04
app.
38:05
And there's going to be some time to
38:06
figure shit out.
38:08
And we have to let them do that.
38:20
so uh quads like roe quads like roe
38:27
i support corinne barry mcconner wants to
38:30
know what happened with corinne it's a
38:34
whole thing you'd have to go to instagram
38:38
there there was a statement made on dense
38:41
updates about corinne live streaming an
38:45
event that was behind a paywall and
38:51
It has turned into a big beef,
38:53
just like everything else in the CrossFit
38:56
space on the internet.
38:59
It's just a lot to keep up with.
39:03
Again,
39:04
I love the content that people put out.
39:08
And when the feuds take up all of
39:10
that content space,
39:13
then I get frustrated because I love
39:18
Jenny's content.
39:20
I love Dallin Pepper's content,
39:22
but instead of getting their normal
39:24
content, we're getting a feud.
39:30
And there are some people that love that
39:33
stuff and are tuning in all the time.
39:36
For me, and this is for me alone,
39:40
I'm only expressing my views.
39:43
For me, it's too much.
39:45
I just want the content you are awesome
39:48
at.
39:58
Why does this have to be a beef?
39:59
Why can't Corinne live stream?
40:04
Shannon,
40:04
you're trying to suck me into the beef.
40:06
I don't.
40:11
So what it is,
40:13
is the event organizers got money from
40:16
Flow Elite to broadcast the legends.
40:22
Corinne live streams the main elite men's
40:26
heat.
40:27
because she's streaming Dallin.
40:32
People didn't buy the Flow Elite because
40:35
they could watch the men's heat through
40:37
Corinne's stream.
40:40
So the argument is that that is taking
40:44
money away from the ecosystem and
40:49
supporting the events that are trying to
40:56
put this on.
41:02
At the end of the day,
41:05
I think Corinne is just trying to film
41:07
her husband so that they have a full
41:11
footage shot so family can see him and
41:15
him alone.
41:20
But I saw a lot of people saying
41:23
that rather than pay,
41:24
they just watched everybody's live
41:26
streams.
41:29
So I think it's,
41:32
I can see both sides.
41:35
I actually kind of lean on you shouldn't
41:39
be able to live stream at an event
41:42
that is behind a paywall.
41:48
If you were at any other sporting event,
41:52
you wouldn't be allowed to do it.
42:02
It's easy to break it down to this
42:03
simple thing, Trent.
42:07
It's easy to break it down to that
42:09
on the humanistic side.
42:13
But if my wife is playing in the
42:15
WNBA and I live stream her,
42:19
that's against copyright law.
42:24
It just is.
42:35
George Wang, you have to have Prime, ESPN,
42:38
NBC Peacock to follow your favorite NBA
42:40
team in the playoffs.
42:42
You do.
42:43
Watching hockey, I'd have HBO Max.
42:46
I'd have ESPN.
42:51
All of that.
43:00
It's hard to keep up with the feuds.
43:02
It's exhausting.
43:03
Let's just keep putting out CrossFit
43:05
content.
43:05
No drama from high school.
43:07
Well,
43:08
I don't even like to call it high
43:09
school because I... I don't know.
43:16
I don't even know where to go with
43:18
this at this point.
43:19
It's frustrating for me because I love the
43:22
content that everybody puts out.
43:25
And I am not someone who dives into
43:28
the drama.
43:31
Um, but I know that that,
43:35
that stuff brings so many clicks to the
43:38
game and it's never going to go away.
43:41
The drama is in every sport.
43:43
Diana Rossini and Mike Frabel situation
43:47
has been alive for three weeks,
43:50
getting the most clicks,
43:51
getting the most views in the NFL.
43:54
And we just had the NFL draft where
43:57
two hundred and eighty kids just got the
43:59
shot of their life to be able to
44:01
play in the NFL.
44:02
And instead of talking about that,
44:04
we're talking about an alleged affair
44:06
between a reporter and a coach.
44:09
So this is not just CrossFit.
44:16
um corinne didn't provide grundler and
44:23
pool boys commenting commentating she got
44:27
more eyes on crossfit if we don't have
44:36
sponsors and we don't have people pay
44:39
money to the event organizers the whole
44:43
thing is going to go away
44:47
Go away.
44:49
If there's no money to back this,
44:51
and right now,
44:52
apparently Flow Elite is offering money
44:55
that makes a difference in whether an
44:57
event breaks even or loses money.
45:05
So you can justify it all you want
45:08
with she's only doing this because it's
45:11
her husband.
45:12
She's only doing this because her family
45:15
wants to see Dallin compete.
45:17
I get all that.
45:19
I get it.
45:21
But at the end of the day,
45:22
you cannot do that if there's copyrighted
45:25
material being broadcast by another
45:28
entity.
45:38
quads like ro we we are we are
45:42
not here to judge intent judging intent
45:46
gets us into trouble i agree the drama
45:55
is a snooze fest
46:05
People don't seem to realize that what she
46:07
did was against copyright laws,
46:08
trying to do it at other professional
46:10
sporting events and see what happens.
46:13
I agree.
46:14
Joe and Bob just don't have the lawyers
46:17
and the cash to take on this fight.
46:26
AZ Zaki says,
46:28
is there a copyrighted material?
46:30
I am sure if you go on the
46:31
flow elite app and you go in there,
46:33
there is some kind of legalese that you
46:37
signed when you got into the app that
46:39
any reproduction of this event, blah,
46:43
I'm sure the tickets.
46:45
And if they didn't,
46:47
then that's on them too.
46:48
I don't, I don't know.
46:50
I don't know.
46:53
I think the agreement between Legends and
46:56
Flow Elite is that Flow Elite got to
46:58
own the content.
47:10
So, I don't know.
47:12
Again,
47:13
this is not a subject matter that I'm
47:16
super interested in.
47:19
I think at this point,
47:21
it was a one-off mistake.
47:25
I think that going forward,
47:27
either flow or event organizers are going
47:30
to make it clear what is allowed and
47:33
what isn't allowed from the pits.
47:39
And so at this point,
47:40
I think it just happened.
47:44
The feud, I don't understand.
47:46
I think it should be just swept under
47:49
the rug and let's move on and let's
47:51
get it right or better the next time.
47:55
But it is what it is.
48:01
Trent says,
48:02
I've seen other people live stream other
48:03
events like Guadalupalooza.
48:06
But were those events live streamed by
48:08
another entity or company?
48:13
was behind a paywall like that there's a
48:16
whole bunch of these elements ortega i
48:23
don't i don't think it's nothing i don't
48:26
think it's nothing we have been spoiled in
48:28
this space to be able to watch everything
48:30
for free that is not the way of
48:32
the world it's not the way of sport
48:35
you have to pay to watch
48:38
It's the only way it will survive longer
48:41
than the next few years.
48:44
You need to have money to support
48:46
everything that's going on.
48:49
And taking away that is only going to
48:54
hurt in the long run.
49:08
Instead of please don't do this,
49:10
it was singling out and being a jerk
49:11
about it.
49:12
That's the issue, I guess.
49:14
Again,
49:14
I'm not into the drama part of this.
49:17
If Joe and Bob had a problem with
49:19
it, they should have talked to her.
49:24
So I do agree with that, Mark,
49:31
that if the event organizers had an issue
49:34
with it,
49:35
they should have spoke to her personally.
49:39
And it didn't need to be.
49:41
But again,
49:42
as long as it brings people to the
49:46
table,
49:47
people are going to continue to do this.
49:57
And that's fine.
49:58
I guess there's a space for it.
50:00
I don't watch Love Island,
50:02
but plenty of people do.
50:12
Putting CrossFit behind a paywall is
50:13
taking away viewers from a pool that was
50:16
already too small to begin with.
50:18
But George, you're missing the point.
50:20
Taking away the money means CrossFit goes
50:22
away completely.
50:26
This is a revenue stream that someone has
50:29
figured out and we are not where we
50:34
were ten years ago.
50:36
Free is not an option.
50:39
The only option is find new revenue
50:42
streams or close shop.
50:46
So bitching about thirty bucks a month.
50:51
Don't pay it.
50:52
Don't watch it.
50:54
But these event organizers need the
50:56
revenue streams.
51:01
Aside from the Corinne Pepper thing.
51:04
Aside from all that.
51:07
We bitch about these streaming services,
51:11
but it is the way of the future.
51:13
It's the only way this sport will survive
51:17
at all.
51:19
It's the only way to bring a revenue
51:20
stream in because they are maxing out what
51:24
they're charging the athletes to come in.
51:26
They are maxing out what they're asking
51:28
the spectators to pay.
51:31
There are no other revenue streams,
51:34
and sponsors are not what we used to
51:36
have.
51:40
That is it.
51:42
That is it.
51:51
People want super high quality streams
51:52
with all the bells and whistles,
51:54
but don't want to pay any money for
51:55
it.
51:56
Ding, ding, ding.
51:59
And soon there won't be anything to watch
52:01
anyway if we keep this up.
52:07
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52:31
With that,
52:31
we should have some actual competition to
52:35
talk about by the time we hit the
52:37
air tomorrow.
52:39
And then in addition to that, tonight,
52:42
five thirty p.m.
52:43
Eastern Time,
52:44
dinner with the Clydesdale and the
52:46
Glintons.
52:47
I'll be on the Glintons podcast,
52:50
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52:53
Eastern Time.
52:54
I hope to see you there.
52:56
Have a great day, everybody.
52:58
And it's been fun, kind of.