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Roast! Classics: Joe Bettinger, Cape Horn Coffee & Marea Coffee · Coffee People Podcast

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Okay, good morning everyone. Welcome to this classic episode
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of the roast West Coast coffee podcast.
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I'm Ryan Walton. This is the show where I bring
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you the stories of coffee professionals entrepreneurship
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and coffee education for the next few weeks.
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While we're between seasons and I'm on the road sampling coffee.
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I'll be dropping classic interviews from the roast West
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Coast coffee podcast. This week, I'm in Post Falls
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Idaho which is one of my favorite stops on these summer
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camping trips. My wife and I have family here
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that is kind enough to let us base camp in their RV behind the
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house. While we head out hiking around
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the beautiful lakes and mountains and feeling up at the
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growing number of coffee roasters.
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In town. Yesterday, we stopped into Doma
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coffee. You may remember that name from
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earlier in season five, when I interviewed roaster and Q
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greater Ian, Nelson a shout out to him and Katie who were in the
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shop. And I have to say, I don't
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consider Our myself an awkward guy but over the past few years
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I've met so many people over video chats online and the
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real-life engagement has been kept to a minimum.
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Until now I've already had some pretty in-depth conversations
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with people. So when I meet them for the
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first time in person, I don't really know what to do with
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myself. I'm sure a few more visits to
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the shop this week and my weird awkward covid.
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Quarantined internet self will Slough away leaving just the
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weird coffee, loving guy behind If you haven't heard the
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interview with Ian Nelson, be sure to check that out and I'll
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link to it in this week's newsletter on Roast
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westcoast.com. Today's classic edition of the
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show features an interview with Joe bettinger.
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Joe is a versatile guy. He is part of the team at Maria
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Coffee Roasters, and he is also a coffee.
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Broker for Cape Horn, coffee importers basically, he travels
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around the world, finding great coffee, drinking it, and then
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sharing it with the rest of us. It sounds like a pretty good gig
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and I'm glad you're here. Listening to him, talk about how
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it all came to be while you're listening today.
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Be sure to follow this show at roast West Coast and at Maria
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coffee on Instagram. And if you're looking for green
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coffee, for your Roastery, had to Cape Horn coffee.com to see.
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All of the inventory and to connect with Joe, you can find
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those links in the show notes or subscribe to.
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This shows newsletter roast westcoast.com, which is also
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where you can subscribe. As for me, right now, I'm going
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to head out and find another coffee roaster to try.
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There's so many in this part of the world.
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I've got my trusty travel mug, and I hope you've already filled
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yours with coffee because it is time for this roast West Coast.
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Classics. Episode interview with Joe
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bettinger all around Coffee Guy, Oh, there it is.
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Okay, okay, well you know what? With that?
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I'm going to say mr. Badger.
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Welcome, back to the roast West Coast County.
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I can't. You were on the show already
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season one. You were, you're a coffee guy.
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You're roasting and creating coffee for Maria coffee, but you
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also work with Cape Horn. Coffee Brokers, Cape Horn,
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coffee Incorporated. And I wanted to learn more about
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that from you today. Yeah, definitely, yeah, starting
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with what is a green coffee broker or coffee importer?
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And how do you fit into that chain between that coffee plant
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in the ground and the cup of coffee?
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I'm having in the morning. Yeah, definitely.
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So a green coffee. You were green coffee importers.
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So we actually make the connection to the producers the
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farmers at origin. And we in order to get the
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coffee, you actually have to have an exporter at origin and
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then you also need an importer. So we have and some people do
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both some people, some of the larger multinational.
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Guys are exporters and importers and so basically an importer
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just Bridges, the chain they we are the ones that bring the
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coffee from Um, origin, get it on the boat or however it might
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be coming in and really it's kind of knowing that logistical
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and taking the risk financially. It's because you know, a lot of,
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you know, Roasters are like okay, you know, we can do this
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and then they find out. Oh well, there's a little more
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to it than I thought Customs doing.
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There's just a lot of pieces to the puzzle and so that's what an
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importer does they bring the coffee in you, you have to have
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funding for that. You know, you're talking about a
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container which is let's Take Brazil, I 320 bags at 132
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pounds, so that's 42,000 pounds of coffee at several dollars.
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So you have to be capitalized and be able to put that money
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out there because when you buy the coffee from origin, you pay
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once it gets loaded, you know, once it leaves there's no no or
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you or sometime soon or depending on what type of
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arrangement you have. So you have to finance that for
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the 30 or 60 days that it's on the water.
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Stir. And then it arrives, it comes in
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the warehouse, and then it's also all the logistics getting
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it from the warehouse to the coffee roaster, which has been
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an absolute nightmare. This last this year so far what
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they call, LTL less than truckload, which are putting the
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coffee bags on the pallets. That's how most Roasters receive
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the coffee. That's just been that whole
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world has been turned upside down for so many reasons,
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there's a shortage of drivers gas warehousing, all these
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factors from Covid and just not moving around.
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And now everything's moving again.
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It's just it's just been very, very difficult and now An
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Origin. What we're facing is.
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There's a shortage of containers and getting the coffee out is
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backed up, bringing it in their ship, sitting out, waiting to
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come in. So the whole supply chain is
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just right now turned on its end and so will you know, you just
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got to be patient and work through it and, you know, that's
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really all you can do because So much of this stuff is out of our
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control. I can't control so many of these
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things from origin and other companies and so it's it's
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unfortunate but we just, we just have to work through it.
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You said something a few minutes ago that just I don't know why I
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didn't think about this. But you said, you have to sit
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and wait for 30 to 60 days while the coffee's on the water and I
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think I'm so used to the idea of Amazon Prime that I just was
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like, oh well, we place the order and then it's Are in a
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couple of days, you know, our next day and that's just not the
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reality. It's just kind of this waiting
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period, where you don't, it's, you know, it's left to Port
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somewhere but it still hasn't gotten to you.
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But you're on the hook for it. Exactly.
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And you don't know, you know, the insurance you have to have.
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And the outlay of cash and capital is pretty extensive when
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you're when you're moving a lot of coffee.
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So that is, that is a big factor of it and knowing being able to
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take the risk from knowing your suppliers in origin and that.
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Whole whole deal. If you're dealing with people,
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you haven't dealt with before. That's why the whole part of the
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process we get what's called a pre-shipment sample.
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So they will actually send a small sample that week up and we
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try and then they ship the coffee and then the coffee
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arrives. And we have to match that
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pre-shipment to what actually arrives because a lot of times
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what you got for the pre-shipment isn't exactly what
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you receive so that's another factor of That's layered on as
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like, if you're a rostered looking.
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Whoa. Whoa, all the important this,
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you know, I'll bring this in and it's like, well, what are you,
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what are you going to do? What do you have in place in
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case that happens. So it's kind of a world where
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you have to have those relationships and you build
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those over time. Yeah, it sounds like you.
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There has to be a little bit of Faith between the two of you.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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And and that's where it really comes into the way I I view it
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is the guys at origin and the producers and Farmers.
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There are Partners in this business and the supply chain.
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So I value them. You know, I look at them as my
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business partner and I'm almost like their importer.
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I sell their cough, you know, we're in business, so I want
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them to make money. I want them to be profitable.
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I don't want to like beat them up for a price because they need
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to make a living. They need to be sustainable and
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be able to have their employees and continue to produce.
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We're like, what you might see is the markets up now which
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we'll talk about later. But, you know, at some point
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these guys will stop producing coffee because they're losing
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money and they can't sustain. So it's the whole, it's the
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whole wheel, you know, you have to everyone along the supply
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chain needs to be able to survive, where else, then you're
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going to have guys doing other stuff, and there will be less
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coffee Supply, and then the price will really go up.
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So there's there's that big factor of having Having these
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relationships and traveling down there and getting to know these
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guys and partnering with them. And that's the part, that's my
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favorite part. Really, is going to origin being
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down there being with these guys because they're awesome.
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There are great people, it's just such a cool experience and
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that's something, you know. Hopefully, in the next year,
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we'll get you down to origin and take you on a trip down there
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and and you'll see the whole process.
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And, and that's what I encourage all Roasters, and everyone in
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the coffee industry, Get down there and see everything that's
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going on and see how hard these everyone works and you know the
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appreciation that you have not the people don't appreciate it
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but it's so different. When you see guys on the side of
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a mountain, you know, that's like this and they're going
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through each tree, picking the picking them the cherries and
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it's just amazing and all the work that's done in the process
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and everything that goes into the production of the coffee to
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get it here. Is amazing.
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The the Milling the processes and really it's you know someone
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told me a long time ago. Farming coffee is is what how
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does it go? Farming coffee is like being
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married. Yeah.
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Doing other crops is like your girlfriend.
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So you're committed. When you're when you're putting
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in the coffee Farm, it takes a few years to get those plants
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going. And it's not like, you can just
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change out like sugarcane or some of the other crops.
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You can change out your year. It's a, it's a commitment.
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So, You've been with Cape Horn for a while, capons been doing
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this since 1995, which feels like 5 years ago, but it's
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actually 25 years ago. And how long have you been doing
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this as a broker? I've been, I would say probably
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about, I believe, seven, seven or eight years now.
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So, okay. And how did you fall into that?
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Well it was, it was, I was in real estate development and
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finance and marketing for 15 years started in venture
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capital. Raising money for small
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companies and did was in a totally different world.
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And I was just a little, you know, I was a little burned out
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on that whole world and these guys I knew were had an import
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company and they're like, hey, won't you come?
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Why don't you come work with us? And I'm like, all right.
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I'll be, you know, you know, I can always go back and do
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something boring and that I don't like, yeah, I kind of just
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jumped in head first and started cold calling Roasters and trying
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to get custody. Stammers and learn the business.
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And so I started like, I didn't know.
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The only thing I knew is like I liked coffee and and I liked, I
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liked the process of having something tangible growing,
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something business and kind of the whole model, you know, I
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like to work with people that run their own business.
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You know, I've been an entrepreneur, my whole life.
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So it just seemed like, yeah, let's will give this a shot and
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see what happens. So the industry is great.
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That's one thing about Office is, I've just met so many good,
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nice people. It's a great industry and it's
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fun to work in. And, you know, when you go to
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the big SCA in the big trade shows, it's a lot of fun and you
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see people and you get to travel.
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And so that was the other thing too.
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I was like well I'll get to go down to origin.
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You know where there's good surf all around the world you know
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all the coffee Aries have great surfing.
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So okay at Cape Horn, I noticed I was looking through the
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website that you get coffee from all over the world, but you kind
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of focus on Central America, and Brazil, why those two regions in
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particular. So one of the partners of Cape
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Horn Daniel. Naver's, he is from Brazil and
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his family. He grew up as a farmer.
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His family has Farms down there. They still do we import all of
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his family's coffee so that's why the Brazil we've been and
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back in when Paul late and started to Cape Horn back in
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1995, he was the former A president and he was a roaster.
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Actually he started as up in Oregon for years and then he was
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a broker that mainly dealt in Brazilian coffees.
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So that's how he got connected to Danny and his family.
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And then so that's the focus and just having all that expertise
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out of Brazil and Farms there, which is a little unique for an
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importer to actually have that direct connection to Family
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Farms and things like that which gives us a different
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perspective. I think I think which I like,
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you know, really focused on the producer and understanding all
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of all that goes into that and then Central America as well,
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just just being right there and we've just had for years so many
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connections down there. It's easy to get easier.
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I should say to get the coffee up there then than other areas
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and and you know, we do Africa and Asia and things like that
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but it's almost like the way coffee and importing these to be
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as Commit like the globe is and everything's kind of vertical.
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So all of America would get their coffee from Central and
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South America, Europe would primarily be Africa, and then
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the Asia would be, you know, southeast Asia.
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And I'll show it was kind of zoned like that before the time
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you know, when you would have a lot of ocean Freight and things
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like that. So once you get that coffee
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here, you've dealt with getting it out of origin.
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It's on a boat. It's here.
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And it's I'm going to say San Diego, you know, I know you're
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in Wisconsin today. How what's the what happens then
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are you? Do you already have that coffee
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pre-sold to Coffee Roasters, are you going out and pitching it to
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Roasters? I mean, how does that work?
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A little a little bit of both. We definitely try to pre-sell as
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much coffee. That's that's the goal, but we
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make commitments and that's part of the relationship with the
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producer at origin is being able to make commitments to them.
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That's that's a big deal. You know, being able to say hey
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I'm not only I'm not in this for the short run, I'm going to be
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able to commit to you this year, next year and pay you a price
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that you can operate with. And so doing that we don't
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always have it all pre-sold. We try to pre-sell as much as
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possible but you always need coffee to get new customers and
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to have on what they call the spot, which is spot, it's called
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Spot Coffee, that's coffee, that's in a warehouse that's
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already here that Has not been sold yet, so you'll have that.
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But that's the goal, you know, is to get Roasters familiar with
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the various Farms. We work with and a year in and
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year out and develop those relationships.
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So we can make those commitments to people who are working.
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And then from there you bring in the coffee and it goes into the
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warehouse and coffees a little bit different, some importers
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have their own warehouses, but a lot of people share the same
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coffee Warehouse in different locations and it's a A separate
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company that runs the warehouse, the best way I can describe it
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and this will definitely date myself is at the end of Indiana
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Jones, the first one, where they Store The Arc in that warehouse,
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that's kind of what? How big the coffee warehouses.
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So you essentially have all importers bringing their coffees
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into these warehouses all around the country and that way that
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you can trade with other importers and share inventory
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and sell to other importers. And then, you can also it's
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easier to Pal. Ties and Chip Coffey out and do
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it that way. So, it's a little bit different.
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I think, than a lot of Industries.
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Yeah, there's just so many logistical logistical.
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I don't want to say challenges, it's kind of exciting to think
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about all the different things that have to get done.
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But yeah, so many Specialties, you know, the company that is
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figured out how to warehouse and put it on a pallet.
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The company that's figured out how to get it out of the
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country. The more has those
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relationships, you know, or the company on the side that's
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connecting with the roasters you Mention the coffee price
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earlier, you've been working this industry for a while now.
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The coffee price, in general, is just really basic is essentially
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the per pound price that we're paying for coffee at the
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wholesale level. Right.
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That's correct. And coffee is a commodity, so
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it's tied to just like any other Commodities soybeans Metals
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things like that. It's tied to the market.
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And that isn't always relative to the cost of Production.
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It's really just people buying Futures different things like
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that. So it's not always where it
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should be technically but it's a it's a market, you know, let me
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interrupt but just to clarify it's not straight supply and
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demand. It's your sometime, you have
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this other it's supply and demand plus this other kind of
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overarching concept of which people are predicting, what the
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supply and demand will be and purchasing based on that.
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Yes, and not only that Have people to Coffee Market will
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move based on the stock market when people are moving money in
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and out, or people want to move their money into a commodity so
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supply. And demand could, it could not
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change at all, but just because hedge funds are moving their
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money here. They want to, you know, they
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think the markets going to drop so they want to pull when you
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see a big sell-off, they'll put it into a commodity because it's
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thought to be a little more stable sometimes so there's so
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many different factors with the Me, we saw back when the last
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stimulus, when Obama did everything we saw the coffee
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Market move because of that. So there's so many, it's crazy
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how many different factors that go into deciding like how that
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how that moves. Now recently in the last week, A
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lot of it was from the coffee fries in Brazil that kind of
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Notch the market up. So but this is the biggest
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increase that I've seen since I've been in this short of Time.
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I mean it's up its up 50 cents a pound.
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Which when you're talking about roasted coffee, that doesn't
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seem like that much but in the wholesale and green coffee
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world. That's, that's a lot.
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But as it as it relates to Specialty coffee, which is a lot
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of this stuff that guys, you've been interviewing it won't make
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as big a difference just because a lot of the coffee that's sold
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in the specialty is sold on a flat price because it's higher
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quality and it's not more complicated.
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Commercial quality. But you will see, you will
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definitely see in crime increases in the specialty,
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coffee costs as somebody who has relationships with through your
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company and because of your visits to origin to farms.
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And the people that are creating this product and relationships
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here with the roasters, how do you do you feel the coffee?
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Price is a fair representation of what it should be and the
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second part of that question and maybe it should be the first is
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When you met, you mentioned the stimulus under Obama.
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How how does today's news how long does it take to reflect in
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that coffee price? You know, what's happening in
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the economy today? So it's it's like the stock
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market. It's pretty instantaneous it'll
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it'll you know hours it will it will trigger and people will and
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I don't know exactly how all of its traded but I think it's
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similar like lot. There's some computer stuff
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going on or some algorithm. And so sometimes when some gets
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triggered, it just keeps it. Just keeps it rolling until
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someone puts the brakes on a little bit.
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But yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty instantaneously just like
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the stock market. I would say, you know,
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reflecting on even things that haven't happened yet possibly
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you could see changes that way. But what's why, you know what we
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do with the lot of the roasters is we try to actually book out
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there coffee and we try to say hey let's let's go ahead and
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figure out what you're going to Need for the year and let's lock
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that in. So you're, you know, you're not
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susceptible to changes in the market.
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I am assuming you've done quite a bit of traveling which we've
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kind of reference. But are there any Adventures
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that you've had? That would be, you know, worth
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telling or is it all business hotels and happy hours?
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Oh yeah, no, no, it's all of them.
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I mean, you're climbing mountains, you're in the year,
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in the back, I mean, I probably shouldn't say this but like, you
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know, I was like I drove from Um, in Nicaragua, from the very
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North to, he No Tag about 22 hours in the back of a truck,
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the holding on standing up and just create.
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Yeah, all kinds of crazy stuff but it's just so cool because
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you're out there. You're literally in the in the
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middle of nowhere. I mean, your eight hours away
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from a city when you get out there on some of these farms and
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you know, the roads are you have to have a four wheel drive and
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and there, it's just You're on, but when you get out there
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you're on top of a mountain and it's so beautiful there.
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And so yeah, a lot of a lot of great stories like that and when
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you get to go there and travel and see how beautiful these
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these places and areas are and you know, you work with some of
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the guys at origin and they're like hey I'm going to I'm going
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to build you a house on top of this mountain, you can come
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visit me, you're like oh man you know right on so you really do
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develop those Friendships and relationships the people.
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And that's what you know. That's that's really what drives
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you and, you know, you know, I would do that part of it and
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just buy the coffee, but there's a whole nother side of it,
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right? Like you know, it's easy to it's
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easy to buy coffee, but someone has to represent those guys and
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get their coffee out and sell the coffee here and keep that
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whole, you know, keep that whole wheel going year to year.
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So that's that's the Fighting part 2 because being able to
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introduce to Roasters some of these these farms and people and
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coffees, you know, like one in particular, is one of my guys in
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Guatemala makes a orange peel process.
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I think I might have sent you a sample, but it's actually Orange
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Peel, fermentation. And it just, they're just doing
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so many. I mean, I feel like coffee's
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been around for so long, but there's so many things in its
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infancy. What these guys are doing.
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And And and experimentation and different things like that with
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all the processes and they can't do too much because you don't
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want to risk, it could turn out bad when you're doing these
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fermentation. So they have to be real careful
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with that but they are doing a lot of real interesting stuff so
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it's exciting. You're on that front line to see
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that Innovation before the rest of us, so I envy.
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Yeah, definitely, hopefully, I want to thank you for being here
24:08
for one and I'm looking forward to our next chat and a cup of
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coffee and real life. I want to know Is there anything
24:13
about Cape Horn coffee, in particular as a broker?
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And it's a company that you want people to know about.
24:19
I feel like I just even though I love coffee and I've been
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interviewing all these Coffee Roasters.
24:23
You're like the only broker that I know.
24:25
Yes, talk to you. So, is there anything that just
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general knowledge? People should know about the
24:30
brokerage, I would say we're, you know, at the, the other
24:34
partner is Mark Williams, and he was the here and the coffee book
24:38
for the coffee. There's a coffee Bank.
24:41
Brown Brothers Foreman up in. In on the East Coast.
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I, it's either in Boston or New York, I can't remember.
24:47
But he ran the coffee book for them, so he's Cape Horn CFO and
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president I believe. So it's just a very
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well-balanced. So you have a financier, a
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banker, you have a farmer, it's a very good combination, I would
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say, we're not at we're not a huge multinational corporation,
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we're a like, a lot of the roasters I deal with in in the
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Importer World, we're a small company.
25:13
You know, we have, I think six employees, but we do a lot of
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those guys do a lot of containers and a lot of volume.
25:21
And, but we know what it's like and we work with our guys, you
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know, we know what it's like to be a small business to, you
25:29
know, we do a lot of stuff with terms and and working with guys
25:34
so that we're definitely different than your, then you're
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bigger companies like that. Because we understand what it is
25:39
to be a small business in a small roaster, small to medium
25:43
Sighs. We're just we're just trying to
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help those guys out and help their businesses out and bring
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them the best coffee we can find.
25:52
Well, I think that's a really, really unique thing and for
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anyone who's listening. I'll start, I'll add links to
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some of the coffee roasters around town that you can find
26:00
coffee. That came through Cape Horn,
26:02
Coffee Roasters Joe. I really appreciate you being
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here. Congratulations.
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I know that you had a big move recently and I'm excited to see
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what happens next for you. Yeah, definitely.
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And I will be I'll be back on the west coast a lot.
26:17
I've got a lot of a lot of clients out there.
26:19
So yeah will have a will have a cup of coffee.
26:21
Next time I come into town. Sounds good.
26:23
Maybe a little Whiskey and a coffee to later on.
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Yeah. Thanks to jail for coming on the
26:47
show, and for supporting Rose to West Coast with Maria coffee,
26:51
and Cape Horn, importers. If you're a roaster looking for
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a wide range of excellent, green coffee from an importer, who's
26:57
been in the game since 1995 Jose, your guy check out Cape
27:02
Horn, coffee.com, or if you want feel free to reach out to me
27:05
here at the show and I'll pass you along on another note.
27:08
I want to congratulate Tom addicts and Katie wetherington.
27:11
Forgetting the doors open. Lucky coffee and Poway
27:14
California. What a huge, awesome
27:16
accomplishment and I feel lucky that I had a chance to interview
27:19
them early on in their planning process.
27:22
Check that out on roast westcoast.com or wherever you
27:25
listen to the show on Spotify or apple podcast or whatever.
27:29
Then check out all of this shows, roast industry Partners,
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as I've said before, I don't partner with just any coffee
27:35
businesses. These are all companies that I
27:38
feel really good telling you to check out.
27:40
So a big thank you to most your coffee company.
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Steady state coffee, roasting Camp Coffee Company, ignite
27:46
Coffee Company, Ascend Roasters Coffee cycle, roasting first
27:50
light whiskey, Maria coffee, Cape Horn coffee, importers Cafe
27:54
litter. And of course, zoom bar coffee
27:57
and tea links to their websites around roast westcoast.com.
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And I'm always sharing and reposting their social media on
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the roast West Coast Instagram. This episode of the roast West
28:08
Coast coffee podcast is was has been written produced and
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recorded by me. Ryan would I hope this show is
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found you happy healthy and with at least enough sanity to make
28:19
it through the day. For those of you headed out for
28:21
a cup of coffee this week, please always tip your Baristas
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and be sure to drink. Good coffee.