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INTERVIEW: Nataanii Means & ANTOINEX Speak On Indigenous Peoples' Day, Native Misconceptions, Hip Hop + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 2: being just aren't here today, but ll Coolbay Lauren LaRosa
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  Speaker 2: is and it is Indigenous People's Day. So we had
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  Speaker 2: to reach out to our folk man antoine x and
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  Speaker 2: the tiny means what's happening?
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  Speaker 1: What's up every Monday? In good morning?
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, good morning, good to be here.
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  Speaker 2: How are y'all feeling man on this day? What does
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  Speaker 2: this day mean to y'all personally?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's a day of It's funny because
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  Speaker 3: there's one side of it that's supposedly Columbus Day, right
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  Speaker 3: then there's the other half of it that's Indigenous People's Day,
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  Speaker 3: which we've been fighting to have and then fighting to
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  Speaker 3: get rid of. So right now, with everything that's going on,
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  Speaker 3: it feels good to be here and be recognized and
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  Speaker 3: to be on a platform like this is just like
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  Speaker 3: it means the world to us and to our people too.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of our people don't get to get to
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  Speaker 3: be on platforms like this. We come from the reservation,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's a beautiful thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of times we come on the
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  Speaker 4: platforms and we're asked about the past, about the dramas
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  Speaker 4: which are there. But today, you know, we want to celebrate.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we're here right now and we're thriving. We're
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  Speaker 4: making it out of places that they didn't want us
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  Speaker 4: to make it out of, and you know we're kicking
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  Speaker 4: it on the breakfast club. You know what I mean
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  Speaker 4: as artists, this is you know, this is historic. I
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  Speaker 4: want to say that this is historic for Native music,
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  Speaker 4: So for Native people just to be here and to
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  Speaker 4: be able to speak on what we are today, who
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  Speaker 4: we are today and just you know, represent you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's a beautiful thing.
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  Speaker 2: What is indigenous hip hop? Because people would hear that
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  Speaker 2: and be like, Indigenous hip hop is the Bronx.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it.
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  Speaker 4: So what you know what I mean with Native music,
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  Speaker 4: it's just us being able to use hip hop, you know,
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  Speaker 4: respectfully to tell our stories, which is like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's people wonder like what is it like on the reservation,
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  Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, there's overlapping struggles that are similar
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  Speaker 4: to like what it Because I live in Omaha, Nebraska,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, I know what the hood is like,
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  Speaker 4: and I know what the res is like, and there's
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  Speaker 4: like so many differences that people don't even know if
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  Speaker 4: you know, they're like be shocked that there's third world
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  Speaker 4: countries an hour away from the city and all these luxuries,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's that's where our
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  Speaker 4: people come from, and we get to talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: We need to talk about things, you know, being erased,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we're not at least representation in media. People
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  Speaker 4: think we're still living in TPS is to think that
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  Speaker 4: we have to wear certain things to be seen. And
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  Speaker 4: what we're trying to do right now through music is
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  Speaker 4: just you know, like this is our story and just
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  Speaker 4: hear our voices. We shouldn't have to like cut, like
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  Speaker 4: fit an image just to be seen and in order
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  Speaker 4: for people to listen, you know, listen to us and
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  Speaker 4: hear our stories.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's it's twenty twenty five right now, and
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  Speaker 3: people are like stuck in the romanticized version of what
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  Speaker 3: natives are, right Like you have to be living in
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  Speaker 3: a tip you got like or people don't even know
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  Speaker 3: where he exist and you say indigenous hip hop It's
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  Speaker 3: funny because on Saturday, we just did a indigenous hip
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  Speaker 3: hop festival in the Bronx in the South Bronx, and
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  Speaker 3: on Friday we met Cool Herk. He came and Cindy
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  Speaker 3: Campbell came and did a talk at the Hostal Center
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  Speaker 3: and I got to perform with different indigenous people from
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  Speaker 3: all across the Western Hemisphere from the tips of Chile, Peru,
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  Speaker 3: all the way up to Canada and me representing here.
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  Speaker 3: So indigenous hip hop is more like, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: understand that where hip hop comes from Black culture, it
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  Speaker 3: comes from here. It comes from the roots of Africa,
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  Speaker 3: which is tribal roots, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: And the way we relate to it is from a
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  Speaker 3: it's from an indigenous perspective, like we relate to the sounds,
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  Speaker 3: relate to the storytelling, and we're bringing We're not hijacking
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  Speaker 3: the culture, is what is what I want to make clear,
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  Speaker 3: it's we're just adding onto it to grow the culture
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  Speaker 3: and to be connected more. Because hip hop saved a
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  Speaker 3: lot of our lives. R and B hip hop on
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  Speaker 3: the reservations, because we heard it as the music of
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  Speaker 3: the struggle, music that you could tell your story with
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  Speaker 3: and that's what we're doing. You know, we're relating it
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  Speaker 3: and now being able to do it with you guys,
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  Speaker 3: with the black culture, black community. It means the world
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  Speaker 3: because we've connected in ways with the American Indian Movement,
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  Speaker 3: the Black Panthers, the Brown Berets. So doing this with
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  Speaker 3: music is just another form of connection.
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  Speaker 5: What stories are you telling in your music that, like
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  Speaker 5: you think people haven't heard enough of like that you
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  Speaker 5: want people to really get and understand.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, we want to tell them about who we
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  Speaker 3: are right now.
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  Speaker 5: I saw it, So talk about that, like, yeah, what
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  Speaker 5: what is the image that people should have of Native
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  Speaker 5: people today?
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  Speaker 4: So real quick, just to get to that, like people say,
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  Speaker 4: oh native rapper, you know, oh you're a Native rapper.
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  Speaker 6: You're just a Native rapper. And I feel like.
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  Speaker 4: For music, just anything Native, it's never just one thing,
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  Speaker 4: Like to be a Native person in general. We always
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  Speaker 4: speak on it, our elders speak on it. Our people
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  Speaker 4: is walking two worlds, and I think everyone could relate
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  Speaker 4: to that, you know what I mean, Like we walk
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  Speaker 4: this world and we're deeply like tied to our culture,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like our ways we go
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  Speaker 4: to ceremonies, we do all of that, you know, like
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  Speaker 4: we sing our traditional songs that are there. They're trying
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  Speaker 4: to wipe those out. You know, there were murdering children
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  Speaker 4: for speaking the language and singing these songs. These songs
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  Speaker 4: made it through and we currently sing those songs today
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  Speaker 4: in ceremony. And so we have this world where we
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  Speaker 4: walk with our teachings, our values, you know, compassion for
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  Speaker 4: each other, for people, for the land, for everything. And
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  Speaker 4: then there's this other world, the mainstream world that's like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: get the bag at all, cars, dog eat dog, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like all that, and we have to walk these worlds.
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  Speaker 4: And I think to be a native artist for us personally,
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  Speaker 4: is just to put our world at the forefront and like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, kind of navigate this world rather than trying
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  Speaker 4: to emerge into this and just like slipping some of
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  Speaker 4: who we are. It's being who we are and just
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  Speaker 4: representing that. And the story would be Man, there's so much,
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  Speaker 4: but it is. It all connects, you know once you say,
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  Speaker 4: when you listen to our elders talk, it's always like
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  Speaker 4: a kind of a joke where you'd be like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: what is this, what's his drink? And then the elder
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  Speaker 4: just start going off for like an hour and then
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  Speaker 4: come back at the end of the hour and be like.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, it brings me back to that, you know what
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  Speaker 6: I mean.
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  Speaker 4: But that's kind of what it is as a Native
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  Speaker 4: artist because if you know, once we tell our story,
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  Speaker 4: you're hearing all these you know, talking about the reds,
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  Speaker 4: talking about just not being represented. I think the biggest
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  Speaker 4: thing is just to create our own uh, just get
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  Speaker 4: inside the door, you know, just be seen for who
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  Speaker 4: we are as a real representation.
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  Speaker 6: Who are Native people.
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  Speaker 4: We're artists, we can sing, we could wrap, We have fashion.
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  Speaker 4: There's so many clothing lines, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: There's brands, there's businesses, and right now it's booming within
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  Speaker 4: the Native community. We have our own little economy that
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  Speaker 4: we're trying to branch out into the mainstream, you know world,
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  Speaker 4: And that's kind of where we're at.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 4: We're just trying to like push these doors open and
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  Speaker 4: knock them down to be seen so people could just
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  Speaker 4: like see individual stores. Cause I mean when people say natives,
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  Speaker 4: it'd be like, oh, what about Native people. I can't
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  Speaker 4: tell you about all Native people, really, I can tell
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  Speaker 4: you the general like, you know, everything overlaps like our teachings,
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  Speaker 4: you know, saying with indigenous people across the world, but
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  Speaker 4: all these you know, like he's do that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: One thing is, like I want to make clear is
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  Speaker 3: that we don't represent all nations, right you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean? Like right now there's five hundred over five
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  Speaker 3: hundred and sixty different nations in this country.
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  Speaker 6: Of those languages, that's ceremonies.
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  Speaker 3: That's separate, different traditions, and we just represent our teachings
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  Speaker 3: and where we come from. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 3: we are out here trying to make people understand we're here.
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  Speaker 3: And then we live with y'all in the mainstream societies
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  Speaker 3: and we go through the same struggles right now, we're
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  Speaker 3: going through the same things right now with what's happening
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  Speaker 3: in this country and what's happening to a lot of
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  Speaker 3: Americans is what happened to us on reservations, rights being
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  Speaker 3: taken away, censorship, your right to pray, that all happened
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  Speaker 3: to us, Genocide, genocide that happened to us, It happened
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  Speaker 3: to your ancestors, that happened to a lot of people's ancestors,
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  Speaker 3: happened to white people's ancestors as well. And at some
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  Speaker 3: point you know, we got to learn from the past
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  Speaker 3: right to know our future. And this is what it's about. Man.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said earlier, connection, it's about understanding each other
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  Speaker 3: and being able to represent who we are in the
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  Speaker 3: contemporary culture right now is important. You know, even my
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  Speaker 3: own people. Last night, a couple of nights ago, a
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  Speaker 3: post got shared about the indigenous hip hop festivals, like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we're appropriating their culture now. Somebody from from my community
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  Speaker 3: said that, It's like, no, we're not appropriating, you know,
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  Speaker 3: hip hop culture. We just live together. You know, why
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  Speaker 3: can't we just all just live together and understand.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder what your elder is right, because I'm thinking
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  Speaker 2: about how your community keeps, you know, that ancestral knowledge
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  Speaker 2: and traditions alive. But how do they feel about you
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  Speaker 2: using hip hop per se to do that, because you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's almost like in the gospel music, they'll be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: don't do none of that secular music.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: It's tough because I mean I don't think we fall
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  Speaker 4: into the category because like if the the words that
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  Speaker 4: we speak, you know, the lyrics we speak on some
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  Speaker 4: some real ship.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So there's there are artists that just go out and
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  Speaker 4: talk crazy, you know what I mean. And it's like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we're kind of like, uh, new to the game.
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  Speaker 4: We're new to a lot of things, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and as a people, so when we hear
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  Speaker 4: like our young kids talking about some crazy things, it's like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, you know, there's some better things to talk about.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you're not really it.
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  Speaker 4: Shouldn't be that, but but but I feel like that's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of communities, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: And you're not't really busting your gun, you're not really,
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  Speaker 2: we don't do that.
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  Speaker 6: But what is crazy?
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  Speaker 5: Though?
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  Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to glorify this. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think it's something to necessarily to be proud of. But
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  Speaker 4: there are a lot of that those types of things
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  Speaker 4: going on on the Reds, you know. And that's why
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  Speaker 4: I say that overlapping things. You know, there are you know,
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  Speaker 4: anything that you can think of in the Hood is
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  Speaker 4: going on on the Reds as well. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of times platforms highlight that, you know, they're
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  Speaker 4: coming with cameras and be like, hey, can you show
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  Speaker 4: us the hood killing poverty porn? That's that's what it is.
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  Speaker 4: And then I'm like, hey, why don't we go over here?
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  Speaker 4: And you see that all of this over here is
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  Speaker 4: like people. You know, it's you go to the border
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  Speaker 4: towns and next to any res and it's always the
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  Speaker 4: most racist, right and then they tell them, hey, don't
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  Speaker 4: go to the res.
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  Speaker 6: And there's so.
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  Speaker 4: Many crazy like stories I've heard, you know, Oh, they'll
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  Speaker 4: do this to you, they'll do this. I'm like, you
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  Speaker 4: know what, the Reds is probably one of the most
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  Speaker 4: safe places you could go. You go to any house
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  Speaker 4: and there's gonna be some grandmother's like ya ya, come in,
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  Speaker 4: feed you. You know what I mean, Because that's it's community.
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  Speaker 4: It's community that a lot of times the city and
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  Speaker 4: people that are just a part of this mainstream society
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  Speaker 4: aren't used to because that's like an old thing that's
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  Speaker 4: not necessarily used nowadays.
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  Speaker 2: Are the eldest pride of the music, like when they
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  Speaker 2: hear y'all, like I said, you know, keeping certain traditions
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  Speaker 2: alive and ancestral knowledge and y'all putting in the music
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  Speaker 2: is proud of it.
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  Speaker 3: One thing about us and Tone's getting into it was
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  Speaker 3: was that we we incorporate our traditional sounds. So Tone
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  Speaker 3: is a singer. He's a traditional singer. Can't see I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to try to ever, but tone he incorporates
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  Speaker 3: our traditional music into it. We bring our drums into it.
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  Speaker 3: We added into the beats. We're always going to bring
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  Speaker 3: the culture into it. But it's funny you say that,
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  Speaker 3: because I just did a show a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 3: ago where I performed in the middle of the res,
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  Speaker 3: the Navajo Res, and it was to nothing but elders
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  Speaker 3: and their little grandkids who are running around. And sometimes
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  Speaker 3: it's like that, you don't have the moms. Moms and
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  Speaker 3: dads are working, or they're not around right now, or
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  Speaker 3: they're moved to the city to work, so the grandmas
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  Speaker 3: and grandpas are watching their kids. And it was a
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  Speaker 3: parentit at a high school, so they brought their kids
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  Speaker 3: and it's just elders. I'm talking like fluent speakers.
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  Speaker 5: What age are your elders, because I know our elders
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  Speaker 5: getting a little younger because the parents are getting younger.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's true. That's another thing too. But when when
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  Speaker 3: I think of elders, I think like sixties or not.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it also goes on like the knowledge, like.
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  Speaker 3: They can be an elder and older, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 6: That's song too. Elders and older.
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  Speaker 3: You can you could be an older person with no teachings.
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  Speaker 5: Just the old fool, yeah, the oldest.
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  Speaker 4: But with that too, I want to say, like, so
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  Speaker 4: i'm I'm like, my name is antonine X, I'm Omaha,
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  Speaker 4: I'm Lakota. On my La Colta side, i'm Ogla and
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  Speaker 4: Changu and that's that's Sue. That's my tribes. So my
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  Speaker 4: mom she's La Cuta and that's the Sue. And within
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  Speaker 4: the La Culta there's bands and i'm Oglaa and Schangu.
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  Speaker 4: The reds would be pine Ridge and Rosebud. And then
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  Speaker 4: my dad's for Umaha, which is the city Omaha is
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  Speaker 4: named after.
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  Speaker 5: Said, that's right, you know.
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  Speaker 6: What I mean.
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  Speaker 4: And so the language I remember being told like the
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  Speaker 4: language is dying. So we have things that were still
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  Speaker 4: fighting to get back, which is like languages. And then
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  Speaker 4: there's languages like like the net that's thriving. But you
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  Speaker 4: know that that was used to help win the war.
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  Speaker 6: What war was that?
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  Speaker 3: World War two?
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  Speaker 4: So of course the government is gonna be oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we like language and helped us winn the war, you know,
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  Speaker 4: But other areas we're like fighting, and now we're fighting
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  Speaker 4: to your languages back. So with the music, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I am learning, but I incorporated some Omaha language which
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  Speaker 4: almost died out some years ago, and I put it
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  Speaker 4: into it like a dance hall record. And now I
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  Speaker 4: have homies from Washington and Sean and you know what
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  Speaker 4: that means, Like what's it meaning? But you're speaking Omaha
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  Speaker 4: and now we have little kids singing it and it's
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  Speaker 4: like we're bringing language back. Language revitalization through music.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, dope music is dope music. Like if you
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  Speaker 2: don't necessarily have to know the language. Think about when
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  Speaker 2: Big pun bit, did.
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  Speaker 1: I know what that back?
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  Speaker 7: Then?
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  Speaker 1: You know it means uh? Is uh? Yes? Girl?
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  Speaker 4: Now listening to bad but I look at the lyrics.
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  Speaker 4: You know he's just making dope shit.
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  Speaker 2: Our afro beats, like you don't necessarily know every word,
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  Speaker 2: but they just ma can dope.
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  Speaker 3: Music universal language.
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  Speaker 4: You just could hum something and people are gonna feel it.
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  Speaker 4: That connects people. And even our traditional songs, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we sing those and some some songs will be like
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  Speaker 4: what's that meaning? I'm like, it means all of this
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  Speaker 4: and I can't really explain, Like I can't explain it.
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  Speaker 4: But it's gonna be so much to explain. But what
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  Speaker 4: does it say? Like the words? There's no words in
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  Speaker 4: this specific song. It's like vocals, but that song is
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  Speaker 4: used for a specific thing within our ceremonies, and everyone
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  Speaker 4: knows that song for that. And I guess if you
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  Speaker 4: look at it from outside perspective, that's what it is.
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  Speaker 4: It's like would be like humming or vocals. But with Meani,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? So like I feel like that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if you hear our songs, you know they're
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  Speaker 4: pretty as songs.
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  Speaker 6: What the hell is that? But it's good, you know
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  Speaker 6: you'll feel it.
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: How how offensive or and I don't know if it's offensive.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: How do you guys feel about the fact that like
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: schools still teach Columbus Day versus there's no real conversation
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: around Indigenous people.
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: Day school teaching everything.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, much learned about that teaching.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: You know, they're not teaching nothing.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: So even just what happened recently yesterday the guy in
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: the White House signed a proclamation or what is it?
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: What are they signing? What's he signing? Those executive orders
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: to get rid of Indigenous People's Day on the calendar
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: as a federal holiday. Now it's always been Columbus Day
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: federally recognized as Columbus Day, and then in twenty twenty one,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Biden made Indigenous People Today side by side with it,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: which is a step towards the right direction. But you know,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: he undid that, and he just totally just said we're
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: doing away with Indigenous People's Day yesterday, Yeah, yesterday, And
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: that took years of people to make happen, you know
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: what I mean, to get that recognition just on the calendar.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: And what you're saying is true, man, Like the history
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: isn't taught because they want to forget the history, and
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: it's happening right now, even with Black history. They're getting
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: rid of the history because they want to make they
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: want to make it seem like genocide slavery didn't happen,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: or they're okay with the genocide and slavery because it's
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: happening right now all over the world. Still, we're just
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: so desensitized to it. So we definitely don't fuck with
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: like I'm sorry, my bad, but we don't don't. We don't.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: We don't fuck with with how erased we're coming. And
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: this is one reason we pushed, pushed so hard to
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: get into these platforms because people need to see us
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: in the flesh twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, soon
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: and we're here. We're still here, man, like we're here.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: We're wearing long hair. My grandpa had his hair cut
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: and boarding school they had to forcefully cut their hair
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: to disconnect them from their our traditions and ways. Here
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: we are, you know, and we're merging cultures together to
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: be able to speak our language and have have a
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: sense of pride in it for our young kids and
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: our elders love it, you know.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: And it's wild with even him signing the executive order,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: the you know, not acknowledge Indigenous people there because the
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: executive what a Biden sign will acknowledge both.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: So it's not like you had to get.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Rid of either, or you know, you didn't have to
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: go out of your way to say there's no Indigenous.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: People that spike.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know, man, it's just everything is backwards now.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: You see what's happening. Man, everything's back.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: We're used to it. Tell us what that I mean,
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: it's era, That's what it's been.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Ain't nothing new. I'm sorry, I thought you I thought
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: you said I did. He didn't know.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: That, you know.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about this song, Scout Takers.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Man, all scout Takers I released said a couple of
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: weeks ago.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: And the people, the natives still participating in scout takings.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: We're about to with everything. No, but the history of
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: scalp scout taking it comes from the French. Actually, the
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: French did it first to Indians and then we took
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: it and we kind of just did it back. Everything
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: that happened to us, we did it back. But we
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, we have stories, we have societies, we call
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: them societies where they honor warriors of the past who
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: participated in that. You know, they honored the scalps that
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: they took, they carried them, they wore them on their belt.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: So that song is more or less just me like
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: coming full circle back around and saying, this is my
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: mentality right now, like fuck everything that's going on, I'm
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: scalp taking. I'm gonna I'm gonna be I'm a warrior up,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: you know, and I want our people to be that
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: and to feel that with the music. So yeah, Scalp Takers,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: it's out everywhere. Dropping the video soon and then tone
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: over here. You know, he just he just dropped a
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: song and video is shorty shorty, and you know these
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: these are making their rounds and and yeah, ships scalp
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: taking baby, don't get scalped.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: The names and names end up on Fox News or something.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: You want me to have the slow.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: What are some misconceptions about native identity or history that
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: y'alluld like to correct?
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: Mm hmm. What's something that?
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's something you guys that you can't say that
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: you can't that's why the misconceptions you get?
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: What are some stereotypes misconcition?
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: He's an example, and like how wild? You could just
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: ask us because this one dude came up. He was like, hey, bro,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I heard uh, if you're still on the Reds, they
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: cut your hand off.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I've always heard that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: Hell know, you know what's crazy. I went to a
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: Reds before for I used to work in community relations
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: for Barclays and we went into a reservation and the yeah,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: I've heard that. Well, like people really think that that's
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: the thing.
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: Where was where was that we were?
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: I don't know, somewhere in like Mexico, Mexicos, Mexico, New
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Mexico City or something like that Mexicos somewhere over there.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: I don't really remember. It was like a long time ago,
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: but we went and we stayed for like a week,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: and that was one of the things that we were
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: kind of warned, Yeah, well we weren't.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: I wasn't going to still. Well look they say a
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: lot man, and that's they said, wow, things like that.
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: And he asked me.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I was like, bro, if you still then they'll call
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: the cops and then you'll get in trouble. But that's
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: the same thing as the city. But I guess it's
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: just things like that.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: You know, people thinking we're just like some always drunk.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: I want to say something right now, my whole entire
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: life as a native person, one hundred percent, I've never
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: had one taste of alcohol my entire life. Wow, I've
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: never I don't even smoke. Never smoked my entire life.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: That's just what I chose to walk. And in our way,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: we call that the red road, and that's the red
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: road of walking free from all of that because that
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: blurs the connection, right, it gets you blurry and hazy.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: And you know, I just chose this way of life,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: and that's as a young person, I chose to be
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: a singer and a singer as a high regard in
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: our community. These songs are powerful. These songs are everything
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: for our ceremonies. So, you know, my my, my dad,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: my mom. They were like, you know, if you walk
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: this way, you walk the red road. So I decided
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: to walk the red road as a young man. And
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: here I am as a grown man and still walking
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: that way.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: And I'm a person that's you know, added to that stereotype.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I was an addiction. I was, you know, heavily influenced
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: by alcohol and walking and being sober. Now now I'm
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: walking the red road and hey, you know what I mean.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: And it's it's it's a rough it's a rough life.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I mean you grow up with it all around you
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: in a dysfunctional way. I mean, you guys see that
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: in the inner cities as well, you know, stuck in
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: a cycle. So being able to get out of that
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: and being able to push that age and like push
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: that the red road is important for us and it's
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: iportant for our kids to hear that too.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: What about uh, you know, some of the forms of
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: compensation and restitution y'all are received for where.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: That where's that at?
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: That's one of the stereotypes, I guess.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, we don't get so conversation and all that stuff.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: You know, a lot of the tribes out there that
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: own casinos that are next to huge cities and or
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: freeways interstates that do they do they do reserve a
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: per capita from their earnings to each member if they're
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: a small nation. Most nations, though, we're out in the
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: middle of nowhere and we don't have that luxury of
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: having casinos near big city centers or anything like that.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: But there's no other forms of constan like restitutions that
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: we get from the government. We've had a lot of
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: things stolen from treaty rights that we signed with treaties
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: that with the government that we're taking during the time
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: of starvation when where people were being starved and we
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: were forced to give up land. So there's a lot
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: of things happening right now where we're getting land back
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: through buying land and taking land, you know what I'm saying.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: So that's a huge myth is that we get free
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: money from the government. We pay taxes, you know what
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. We have to pay taxes. Everyone has to
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: everyone has to pay taxes. You know what I'm saying.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: So and it's just so happens that our ancestors paid
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: the worst tax you know, they were lied to and
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: they were starved and they were killed.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: And I guess it's it's those those you're bringing up,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: like the main ones. I guess I should have just
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: brought those up. You know, alcoholism, smoking, don't pay taxes,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: get free money. Yeah, those are all the stereotypes that
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: we've grown up hearing about. And I guess the one
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I brought up is like a deeper one, hands stopped off,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: stuff like that.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: The main those, yeah, I think too.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Just the way that you live on a reservation is
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: just like a People don't think that. It's like you
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: live like we do every day. People like people have
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: like this way that you mentioned the TPS earlier. I
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: don't think that, and I don't I've never heard someone
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: say that in twenty twenty five, But I do know
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: that people look at like people living on reservations and
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: they think that you guys, don't you just don't have
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: things like it's like a third world country.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: No, it's it's definitely like that. We definitely have the
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: highest rates of unemployment, we have the highest rates of
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: suicide in our young people per capita in a lot
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: of places. And that's just due to the fact of
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: all the economic hardship that we endured from from from
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: times before, like the Howard Wheeler Act, these acts from
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: in the early nineteen hundreds that happened, and it's true,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: you know, but now nowadays, like you have a lot
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: of Native businesses that are prospering. Yeah, and we're trying
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: to when we keep Native money in the Native community.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: And we and ton't mentioned it earlier about how we
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: have our own little entertainment like fear happening Native entertainments.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: There's the fashion shows, there's the filmmaking, there's the music industry,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: there's and we're all like it's popping and getting that
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: to be able to be recognized in the mainstream as
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: a goal, it's a huge goal. Like they just had
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Fashion Week here in New York City and they had
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: a whole Indigenous fashion Week on the side of that too.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: So and with that too, the yeah, the way they live.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: There's I mean, there's business owners, but then there's also
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: people who are still without electricity, very struggling.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: We went we went to help bring over Wi Fi
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: to one of the residents because the kids hadn't experienced
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: good Wi Fi. So the company was like helping to
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: get that to the resident. And I thought it was
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: it was so crazy to me because I'm like, how, like,
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: what have the schools and stuff been doing?
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's there's there's I mean on the reds
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: there's like food. It's food deserts too, like one hundred
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: mile radius and there's just one grocery store, one gas station,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: and they jacked the prices up. So, like I mentioned
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: it in one of my songs about kids walking fifteen
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: miles to get to school just to eat. You know,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: but what if it's wintertime, snowed in, and what you're
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: you don't have a ride, there's no car. The closest
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: food is twenty miles away, and it's either don't eat
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: or get to that store and then pay the over
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: you know, they jack the prices up. So it's yeah,
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: it's it's tough. We're clawing our way out. Our people
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: are clawing our way out to just make like better
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: living conditions and a better life. Some people, it's people
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: like all of us. I feel like everyone's always thinking
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: about the people, not themselves. Maybe people always thinking about
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: their people.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we always have to have to you know what
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I think I think we all have to adopt that
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: mentality right now. Man.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: You know, to me, it's not even about what you
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: are right now, it's about what it's about what the
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: evil is on. It's really a battle of good versus
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: evil right now. So you just got to find that
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: energy that you gravitate towards. Find like minded people and black, brown, indigenous,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: everybody just got to click up, you know, even the
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: good white fol everybody just got to click up.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: Oh you know what's crazy.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: I was talking to some homies out in LA and
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: I was telling them, like, you know what, the secret
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: sauces that I think for artists is Native people. Like
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: there's I'm gonna say who, but there's a lot of
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: artists out there that I would say, like fell off
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: if they went anywhere else, people all they fell off
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: and no one gets tickets, but they're getting their full rates,
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: selling out like huge, you know, like venues, and it's
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: all natives. So they start hitting the native circuit. So
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: when we say write, we say like little, like oh
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: we have a little circuit, but it's not really little
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: like I've been touring and selling out venues and it's like,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, for the level that i'm it's great, you know,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: six hundred to one thousand tickets sold per night. And
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: when people see that, so I wanted to la and
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: they're like, I'm like, yeah, this is our last show,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: and they're boomless work, you know what I mean. And
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: by having all of my people behind me, I think
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: the reason why people I know, the reason why people
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: stand with me is because I stand for and with
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: my people.
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: And that's like what this movement is.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: That's what antone X is, That's what Natani means is,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: and a true you know, Native artist, I feel like
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: it's that standing with the people and the people standing
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: with them, and so that's why the crowds pop out.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: And if anybody stands with Native people too, or just acknowledgement,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Hey my Natives, I see y'll. You know, I'm gonna
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: come do a show on the rest somewhere no one
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: goes because all these misconceptions, you know, right, no one
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: goes there. So let me go out there and show
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: some love. Then Native people are own real one and
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna rock with them until forever.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I've got to, you know, I've always had a theory.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, y'all were not the only
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: people indigenous to the land. I feel like black people
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: were indigenous to the land too, especially I'm from South Carolina.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: So you can look at, you know, some pictures of
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: indigenous people and then look at pictures of black people,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: and they look exactly the same.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: There's always been we have see within what the mainstream
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: society doesn't understand that we still have oral traditions and
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: stories that being passed down. And inside those oral traditions
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: and stories that are passed down, we had trade routes
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: from with everybody. So people from the Pacific Islands would
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: trade on the coast of California all the way down
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: to Peru, and Africa would come and trade all the
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: way from South America the Atlantic all the way up
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: into like Newfoenland. So we have, like every nation has
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: stories of these trade routes that are happening, you know,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: and that's older than what's written down, what's documented by
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: the European American. And that's what I start calling them now,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: is European Americans, because you know, with everything that's happening,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I always tell them, like, man,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: you weren't born here either. Your generationally goes back a
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: couple couple generations, we go back thousands of years. But no,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: you're right, and re establishing those connections is but definitely
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: what we have to do now and understanding and like
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: you said, we all have to come together based off
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: of the love for each other right now, especially right now.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: You see what's happening in the streets. You see the
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: people getting taken. It's like nineteen forties Germany, nineteen thirties Germany,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: and it's hard. But the unity that has to come
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: together right now, man, and the misconceptions have to stop.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: The fear has to stop, and the love has to
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: grow has to if we're gonna survive, We're going to live.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Take it from people that have been in survival mode,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and that are still in
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: survival mode. We're here, we've been here, and we can
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: all move forward together.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: You ever been to South Carolina, nah Man, A lot
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: of tribes South Carolina, with the Cherokee tribe in north
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: North Carolina.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: But Tabo, I think it is combin nation.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they recognize that's where you're from the South Carolina. Yeah,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of history there with p.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: D p D Indians say, the Indians like it's edisto. Yeah,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: it's a lot. It's a lot of drives.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: A lot of those tribes on the east, on the
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: eastern slope, they got forcefully removed to Oklahoma.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Y'all gotta come connect with some some tribes and it
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: comes to power or come to something.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys gotta come out. You guys got to come.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: I was so young though, I'm just sitting here. Remember
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: in my time there, I was so young. But yeah,
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: probably a different experience now.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and there's I mean, there's just be honest with you,
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna want to drink. Yeah, there's water, lemonade, there's
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: the power. Lemonade are the best ones you ever have?
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: You can drink a lemonade? Yeah?
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Is it like, how is.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I need to infuse?
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Y'all don't have like, oh, this is this fusion happening.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: There's infusion happening.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: It's happening.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: It's happening it out here.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: You know from fact though, Omaha, the Omaha people, that's
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: the original power. So every power that you ever heard of,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: the one that you went to all traces back to Nebraska.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: The well, so power is a celebration.
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: Okay, it's a social.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: It's a social I mean, I know what it is.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: But I feel like you ever heard of a trail
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: ride in the South, they do like trail ride.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I feel like it would be kind of like that
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: without the know we through the bonfires.
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: And all that too, though, No, so, so the power
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: is a celebration.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: They're sacred things within it though, you know, like people
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: earn all those feathers and you know, there's there's healing dances.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: But it's a celebration. So again, like to be in
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: that circle would you would have to be clear of
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: all of the you know, alcohol and stuff like that.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: So it is a celebration, but it's like a traditional celebration.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: And then from there though, it goes into each tribe.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Then we have our own ceremonies and those are way deeper.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: It's similar to like pow wow food. Like you've heard
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: of Indian tacos and fry bread. Yeah, so Indian tacos
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: fry bread damn.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: Well that's ah, that's sort of you know a lot
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: of people bring up you know, that's the food. But
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: it's not our traditional food. It's survival food.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: So back when you know they put us on reservations,
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: they gave rations of the most unhealthy shit. You know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: they're thinking one hundred years from now every time, you know,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: and they're like, let's give them us unhealthy shit and
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: they'll get shipped, you know, one hundred years from diabetes
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: and all that.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: But survival food.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the worst of the worst that they gave out.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: But our traditional foods way better, you know, healthy, And it's.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: A lot of people are going back to traditional cooking
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: and eating foods from that certain area.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: So we'll put one together. We'll put together a big
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: pow wow.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: We'll leave from right here, we'll go to the airport,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: we'll go Black Hills. The biggest power, I would say
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: right now going on is Black Hills power in the city.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: In the heart of Lakota Country, which is in South Dakota. Yeah, man, what.
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: Are you.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: You know about the camp that I was at right,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: because they brought me in after Standing Rock and Standing
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Rock right, and you don't you know what that is.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: It was fighting against the Dakota Access Pipeline. But anyway,
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: this camp brought us out to amplify our voices to
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: a thing called Burning Man. I didn't know what it
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: was at the time. I was like, yeah, I perform,
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Get down. Where was the stage at wherever you want?
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Brother? And I was like all right, And they had like.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: These fake tepees up. So I'm kicking it. We're riding
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: bikes around. Like day three, they start using our drums
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: and our songs like these are ceremonial songs, beating these
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: drums are doing crazy ship and so I called them
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: out and you know, I was with some of my
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: homies and called them out and They're like, no, brother,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: this is all We're creating a new tribe of one
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: pitt And I'm like.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: No, conscious colonization is crazy.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: They removed me from the camp, and I remember I
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: ended up getting to like Reno, and I was sitting
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: there like damn, I'm stuck in Reno and I forget
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: how I got home.
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: But yeah, that's that was my experience. But Burning Man
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: was pretty.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Cool, and the Native Comedy called him out for going.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: There was selling out. I wasn't.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: I fight for my people in my waist, but yeah,
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: know the power it's just a it's huge, man. It
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: fills up the entire the monument, which is like the
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: the big the Big Arena arena of.
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: The city, and it's a lot, it's a place.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: It's a good starting point for Like, if you're trying
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: to connect with indigenous community, go check out a power
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: and be respectful, you know, but you're always welcome there.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: They're not going to chase your way. You might hear
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: crazy things from non natives about it.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: Don't go to power.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: They do this and this na man, it's always love.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: So if you're looking to connect, yeah, go to power
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: and just be respectful. Understand that's a good entry way
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: into the community.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: With y'all.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: First of all, shout out to Queen your najaha, Yes,
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Queen man, because they're the reason that we're here. And
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Queen has been fighting for us to get into these
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: spaces for so long and she is like the realist
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: for that. And if you ever want to check out
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: a power, all connect with Queen and then Queen's with us.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: We're all together, as you know, that's the homie. And yeah,
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: well you'll get a good welcome to the power.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: Anytime any like you know, major people come to powers,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: they honor them you know what I mean, And it's
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: because it's the honor to have people come in and want.
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: To see who we are.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: But yeah, the Black Hills Power is the biggest one
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: right now and took over Gathering in Nations as being
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: the top spot. And Gathering Nations was ran by a
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: non Native, which was a big controversy, which is why
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: we didn't attend. And you know, it's a good time
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: right now because now that one's ending, because all the
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: people stood together and said this, saying it, let's stand
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: behind Native ran Power alls and like, if anyone's going
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: to create some type of movement from our ways, it
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: should be Native people benefiting.
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: So that's what we're doing. You know. Shout out to
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: Black Kills Power off for taking that top spot.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Way do they follow all that? Man?
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Not.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Tani means you know, just my name and A T
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: A A and I I means on everything, YouTube, Instagram, everything, man.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: So I appreciate being on here, and I appreciate you
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: first A first, you brought it up and my mom
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: was gonna kill me if I don't introduce myself in
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: my language. So can I introduce myself for my language
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: means in this Shipla Latash's chin Omaha. You honk the
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: one d quota Dushanella. I come from Chilean Arizona, worn
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: and raised. I'm enrolled in the Oglala Lakota tribe nation
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: in South Dakota, and I'm also Maha. And he honked
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: the one dat quota from the lake andies. So thank you,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: thank you guys for being here. Yeah, he shout out
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: to you guys. Man, because it's my third time on here,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: my third time on here with y'all. Yeah, third time queen, yeah, queen,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: queen man. And I just I appreciate Charlotte Mane. I
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: appreciate you for always just being down man and having
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: us on and creating the space. It means a lot
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: to not only us, but our people and for our
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: kids and our elders.
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: And it's a beautiful thing to come together, to be
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: recognized here in the heart of in the heart of
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: where hip hop started. And looking forward to doing more
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: and connecting more. Charlemagne for as.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Antone X A N T O I n e X
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: music on all platforms. Yeah, just you know, run the
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: music up, check out the movement. The movement is for
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: the people. So if you support. I just want to
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: say this, there's artists that are paintings. This is just
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: kind of how I picture it. A lot of artists
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: are paintings. They paint a picture and then there's nothing
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: behind them. I don't want everyone to understand this that
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: antone x Natini means are like doorways. So if you
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: tap into the artists, that door opens, and we open
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: that door for all Native artists, brands, businesses, all of that,
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: and you'll tap into everything. You'll see more music, more,
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's I feel like
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: that's good. So any artists out there, like you said,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: start moving for the people and with the people, and
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: be a doorway. Don't just be a painting your doorway
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: to your people, you know what I mean. And that's
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: how you open that community. But I want to share
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: this is Indigenous People's Day. It's nothing else. This is
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Indigenous People's Day. And again we talked about the music,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: you know, and for us, music is medicine because it's
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: in our ceremonies. So if this is coming to the
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: closing point, on share a prayer song with you guys,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: to leave it with good energy.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Before you do that, recommend this song because I do
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: want to play some indigenous hip hop.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: So if you had to play a record, what record
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: would you want to play? Right now? Indigenous People Day
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: on the radio. I'm serious, no, no, no, no, yeah.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well for me obviously my new I just dropped
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: the song with Shorty Shorty, which what I like. In
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: the comments, everyone's like, oh yeah, yeah, our community is coming.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: I'm getting a lot of like the black community, you know,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: coming in like, oh this is hard. I put Shorty
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Shorty in front of a tepee, you know, when he's
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: rapping and so used to this by antone X featuring
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Shorty Shorty. Yeah, and let's take that as like a
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: moment for our communities to come together and start that,
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: And then if you want another thing, scalp takers by
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: means scout, yeah.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Eddie go grab them all right now, let's do it. Prayer.
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: So this song, this song, you know, the I made
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: it for my family. We're going through hardship. Look, yeah,
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: this is good. This is like blending right now.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because with us, my grandma had to pray you
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: better touch.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: I like this because we just we just be standing.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: But so this song it's ah.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: I made it for my family to uplift you know,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: when you're sad and people you play sad song. I
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: remember this elder that I was listening to. He said,
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: my song when I leave, and it was his song
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: for he was gonna move on and go home, and
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: he said, make it happy. I want the people to
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: be happy when they think of me. So we went
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: through hardships and I made this song for the family
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: to uplift them. So anyone listening, take the song, think
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: good things, think of your families, and just send good
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: energy their way and love their way, and then take
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: it in for yourselves. But yeah, I'll say that. You know,
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: my pops told me, he said, if we don't have
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: the right words, then we have the right song, especially
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: as native people. So right now, the best prayer in
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: the world, man, is through the song.
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: Y'all way way, yay, oh way away, y'all way way away, Hey,
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: oh way hey way hey hey yah way, y'all ho hey,
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: uh hey, y'all y'alli way.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Hell way.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: Hey hey.
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: Why why wait hey y'all wait hey away hey yuah way,
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: y'all ho hey, uh hey, y'all y'all.
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: Way hey way.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, all right, that was antoine X and the
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: tiny means thank y'all for coming man.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I appreciate the Breakfast Club.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Pick your ass up the
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: breakfast Club.
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: You're finished, y'all dumb