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Samantha Busch: "Time To Cancel This Race Car" · Kenny Wallace Media

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Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Rick Mass show.
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I am Charlie Marlow, That is the great Rick Mass Rick.
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We've been texting, tweeting, all that.
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It is great to see your lovely face once again.
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How are you, Sir? Doing good, I'm doing good
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Charlie. Just getting over getting over
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the week at a racing man trying to trying to decipher everything
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that went on and watching everybody so post and the media
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and figuring out what what the complaint is this week.
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So you know, what are you saying as a complaints?
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I know what I'm saying. What are you saying?
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Well, the biggest complaint obviously is, was this race
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boring? We'll get to the Samantha Bush
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tweet, but I'll start there with you.
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So Kyle Larson just dominates this race essentially from start
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to finish. And no matter how you call that,
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I saw an ass whopping, ass whipping, ass whooping, whatever
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it was, Kyle Larson dominates. But in your in your mind, what
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was it a fun race? Yeah, typical Bristol.
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Or was it kind of boring? Well, if you throw Kyle Larson
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out of it, right, I didn't think it was too bad.
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I mean, if you look back, I mean, the cameras were on, all
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these guys racing for everything and it was all about the points
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mostly. But from Kyle, if you just just
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take Kyle Larson out of the equation, it wasn't that bad a
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race. It really wasn't.
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But Kyle Larson, I mean, again, as I said on X, it was a ass
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whooping. That's not whipping or whopping.
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It's whooping, ass whooping. Every now and then you'll have a
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guy out, a team that hits on something special with this car.
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Well, hell, not with this car. With every car has always been
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like that. Somebody every now and then I
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hit on something that just dominates man.
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And nobody could run with him. And that's what happened with
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the five car. And you got to give them, you
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got to give them their due in that one.
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When something like that happens, man, I just, I just sit
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back and salute them because it's very, very hard to come
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come up with something that makes your car that dominant in,
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in today's world, especially with this race car, as finite as
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these cars are. It's just, it's, it's hard to do
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that. So the racer in me appreciated
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that part, right. So that, that took some of the
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borness out of it for me watching Kyle Larson.
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But back through the field, dude, I mean, those guys were
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all, you know, and the TV did a good job.
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I, I have, I'll have to give those guys credit, one of the
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better jobs. I thought of, of television this
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year, of, of, of, of keeping up with what was going on with the
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points and who was racing for the points deal throughout the
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whole race. And now to me, it was just an
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interesting race. Yeah, throw out Carl Orson, man.
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He stuck it up. He stuck it up.
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OK, let's get right to what everybody's talking about
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mostly, mostly Sunday. And that is the the Samantha
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Bush tweet. I'll read it for you here.
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I'll put it on the screen for everybody.
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She says not just saying this because we didn't run well.
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But can we all agree the only exciting part of the race was
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watching Owen celebrate with Kyle.
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Obviously Kyle Larson's son Owen can't remember a Bristol race
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being that blah in long time. Time to cancel this race car.
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What do you think of that? Well, if you take, I take that
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statement a little deeper, right?
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What, what I, what, what I take from that statement is she's
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listening to other folks. She's listening to her husband.
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Yeah, her husband's not doing good right now with the car.
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And some other guys are not particularly doing or doing
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particularly well with this car. But to me, it's like, you know,
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she's echoing maybe, maybe what a lot of the drivers are, are
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echoing to each other and in the motorhome lot, right?
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A lot of stuff for fans, a lot of stuff goes on in the
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motorhome lot during the week between the drivers and the
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wives. I mean, the driver will come in
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and he'll be bitching about the car, bitching about this, you
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know, and then the wife has to listen to it.
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And then the wife goes, has her, her little tea or lunch with,
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with other drivers, a group of drivers, wives, and they're all
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sitting around talking and, you know, they'll relate what their
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husband's frustrations are. OK.
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And first thing, you know, you've got a you've got a theme
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going on. Yeah, in a, in a, in a motorhome
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lot with the drivers and the drivers wives.
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And I'm, I'm I really taking this like this is a theme that's
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going on in the driver's lot amongst drivers and drivers
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wives. I don't know that she would just
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come out and say that, you know, but just listen to Kyle and
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maybe the frustrations those guys are having.
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But you know, we're, we're, the problem is we're too deep into
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this car. I mean, golly, man, the races
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have been very good at a lot of places.
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I mean, Richmond sucked and Martinsville sucked.
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And, and, and, and if you, if, if you look at Bristol, a lot of
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people saying it sucked with Kyle Larson doing what he did,
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Although I kind of disagree a little bit.
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But you know, when you, when you hear comments like that from
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especially drivers wives, and you got to really think about, I
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mean, 'cause I know I subjected my wife to this stuff for 30
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years, OK. And I kind of know how this
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stuff gets around and how it works and the vibes with
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everybody. And it to me again, I think it
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might be just just I can't wonder what a lot of people in
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in the in the garage are saying. But they can't, they can't do
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anything about it. You know, the, they, they can't
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come publicly come out and say the race car I'm driving ain't
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worth a crap. NASCAR screwed up.
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This car is no good. You know, you can't do that.
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You have to work with what you've got.
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I mean, you know, the teams, the teams really are who asked for
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this race car, right? They're the ones that wanted
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this type of racing and this type of or this type of race
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car. And you know, they, they
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continually been working on this thing since the beginning.
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I mean, they've made changes to it, done this, that another I
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saw an interesting, I saw an interesting answer to that
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Charlie on on the Samantha Bush thread.
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One guy said it's not the car, it's the tire, It's the thin,
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it's the the short sidewall tire.
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You can't, you can't put a rubber band on the outside of a
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wheel. No, what was it?
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You take a rubber band and put it on the outside of a wheel
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that's made for Rd. courses and other cars, not these cars on
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ovals, right? And I'm like, that was a pretty
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interesting take. Oh, that's a fan that kind of
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knows a little bit and he might be onto something.
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It could have a lot to do with the sidewall being so short on
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these cars. I don't know, You know, I don't
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know what it is, but and everybody goes back to the same
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thing all the time, Charlie, more horsepower, more
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horsepower, more horsepower. We got to get more horsepower.
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NASCAR has already said we ain't going to give you no more
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horsepower, right. Well, they've done everything
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here at the down looking. They can do that race car.
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There's nothing else they could do for short track racing for
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that race car. And you know we're in it.
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We're in an entertainment business now, man, go back and
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look at some of the old races. Go back and look, a lot of the
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old races we're talking about how great it was before, but
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man, we didn't have 500 laps of side to side racing at Bristol
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back back in the good old days, right, We had good racing.
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He was always good racing. If he's in your race car, you
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felt like you were, you know, you were in a Ben Hur battle man
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with your chariot, right Golly foam almighty Bristol and it was
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it did feel like you're racing in a Coliseum in those days.
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But you know, I don't know. I don't know how to quantify
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that. I don't know how to, you know, I
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guess we'll just have to put up with it with it every week,
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listen to people fuss about it and try to make the best we can
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have it. But again, Bristol was crappy.
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Martinsville was crappy. I'm not going to go along with
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Bristol. I mean, Martinsville and
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Richmond were. I'm sorry, Martinsville and
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Richmond were crappy. Bristol, Yeah, it was crappy.
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So Kyle lost for that. It wasn't.
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But anyhow, I I digress here, Charlie.
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Well, here's a couple things I want to talk about the tires in
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a second, but in terms of just the interest of watching the
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race and it was a a pretty fast race in terms of when it ended.
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I will say this, even though it was pretty obvious how hard it
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was to pass, for example, lapped cars when you have the the
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fastest car and, and they're trying to pass, you know, Martin
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Shurex Junior, for example, he gets his his speeding penalty
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and it's so hard for him to pass these other cars, even though he
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was running up front earlier. I do think that the playoff
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format, especially at a cut off race, saves NASCAR in terms of
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interest. Because Rick, to me, when I'm
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watching that TV screen and I'm watching the left side and I
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see, you know -1 + 1 Ty Gibbs, Denny Hamlin, Martin Truex,
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you're in, you're out constantly.
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It's hard not to be pretty fascinated by that.
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So even though the race wasn't perfect in terms of guys being
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able to pass cars, I do think that the playoff format,
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especially for these cut off races, it's fascinating to watch
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that screen and see who's going to make it and who and who
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won't. Yeah, Charlie, to your point,
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something you're thinking about it.
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Excuse me. I was mesmerized sitting there
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the whole race watching the left side of that screen and those
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frigging points, right. I mean, and, and they showed,
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and here's what was neat about the broadcast.
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They showed those. They showed the points and where
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everybody was at the right side of the screen showed those guys
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racing for the last cut off. I mean, it was a good deal.
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That's what I bet a while ago that said TV did a good job.
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And you're exactly right. And if if we didn't have this
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points deal, all we had to watch would have been Kyle Larson's
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dominance and how how can you do that?
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There was nothing. I mean, you talking about being
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people think it was born the way it way it was Saturday night.
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If we didn't have this points deal, Oh man, I know the
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traditionalist everybody, a lot of these traditionalist, you
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know, raise Kane about the new format all the time.
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They just like to fuss about it and that's fine.
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You know, you don't like it. I mean, you're a fan and you you
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love this sport and you loved it the way it was.
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You don't like it the way it is. Well, I'm telling you, we're in
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the new world, man. We have to again, it's the
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entertainment business. We have to entertain everybody.
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Charlie, to your point, I just don't think we would be there.
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I don't think the interest would be the way it is if we didn't
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have this point step. And another thing, a quick
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tidbit, we didn't have caution flags.
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You talked about how short the race was.
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We didn't have cautious that. That's the other thing about
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Bristol. Always been excited.
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You would have a caution man and then that would start and then
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cautious would start breeding cautions and it would just go on
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and on and on all night for whatever reasons.
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You know, everybody was everybody was playing real nice
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with one another. It seemed like for the most part
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we didn't have cautions and that that added to the stigma of, you
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know, a board race because Rich or Bristol, you can always count
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on causes. So but anyhow.
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Yeah. So you mentioned tires earlier.
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Were you surprised that it wasn't more like the spring race
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where it was crazy with the fall off where nobody expected that,
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but it made it a damn interesting race?
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It was. It was so different and then you
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could tell. So I was listening to a lot of
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the drivers press conferences, mostly Friday, a little bit
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Saturday, and all the drivers seem to say, look, this, this
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race is probably not going to be like the spring from practice
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and qualifying and all that. It seemed like it's your typical
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Bristol race and that it wasn't going to have the crazy tire
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fall off. Were you surprised by that?
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Because I thought we'd see a little more, not not as drastic
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as the spring race, but I thought you'd see a little more
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there playing into the strategy and that wasn't the case.
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Charlie, you know I'm a student of the sport, right?
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So I kept, I've kept up with this tire deal.
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I've tried to keep up with it anytime, any time somebody they
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would talk about it or, or, or or something, I would read about
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it. And mostly it was a Goodyear
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deal. Stu, the Goodyear guy that runs
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the racing program, I would try to listen every time they
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interviewed those guys. Booty had him on a couple times.
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He's on different shows and I would they'd always bring up
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during the summer. You would hear Bristol a lot.
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He would, he would bring up Bristol and what went on at
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Bristol. And then when we get ready for
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the race, we're going to bring back the same tire we ran in the
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spring and we don't think it's going to have the same end
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result as we had the spring, right.
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And then I listened to some crew chiefs being interviewed and I
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listened to some drivers and every one of them to a fault.
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Even up to Saturday morning, I was listening to a couple of
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those guys, I forget who was saying, you know, we don't
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really know. We don't know.
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We don't know what to expect. We don't know what to expect
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that. And then we get in the race and
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the tire acts like a normal race tire.
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It doesn't act like it did in the spring.
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It's the same fragging race tire.
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It's the same friggin racetrack, right?
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But the tire doesn't go to crap in 30 laps.
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I don't know bad. I mean, this, this one's got me
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screwed up. I I've got it.
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I've got to do it. I've got to make a couple calls.
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I've got to try to figure out what what went on with this tire
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because you know, and I was sitting there thinking, well,
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you guys haven't changed anything.
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Why is it going to be different? Why is this tire not going to
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come apart in 30 laps? Wait, didn't spring, You know,
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this is going to be fun to watch.
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Well, they run 30 laps and the guys had fallen off like what,
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6/10 of a second, 7/10 of a second a lap and I'm like, well,
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hell, the tire's not doing what it did in the Sprint.
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I don't know. I don't know.
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This is this is a big this is a big question mark.
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Normally something like this, you know, you've got a handle
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on. But when the crew chiefs on
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Saturday morning before the race didn't have a clue what was
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going to happen the hell in the hills Rick Mastery fan going to
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figure out what's going to happen.
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We just we sit back and watch and see what the deal is.
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But it made it made. It's made for an interesting
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deal for me, let's put it that way.
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So I'm curious, when you're watching this race, what were
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you most interested in seeing? So for me, it wasn't who was
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going to win the race. To me, when I start watching
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that race, it was all about, is Denny Hamlin going to advance?
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And I'm a I'm a Denny Hamlin fan, not just because I think
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he's good for business with his podcast and he challenges NASCAR
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with the whole charter deal. I mean, he's always keeping
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things interesting. But I am one of those guys.
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After 20 years, I I want Denny Hamlin to win a championship.
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And even if he doesn't win a championship, if he keeps
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advancing and gets to the final eight, gets the final four, I
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think it's good for the sport. So what do you think about which
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drivers advance which didn't? Obviously you have what
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Keselowski, Gibbs and Harrison Burton and Martin Truex junior
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out. You have some guys, I mean,
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look, Chase Briscoe advances, Daniel Suarez advances.
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I mean Austin Sindrix had a Goodyear, but you have some
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different names than you probably would have expected at
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the start of the year. So how do you feel about the
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guys that advanced to the the top 12 and the guys that fell
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off? Yeah, the one that really had my
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interest pics was Barton Truax just because just because the
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storyline with Martin man, he's a pass champion.
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You know he's over it. He's done with racing right.
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It's obvious when he gets it's obvious every week when he gets
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out of the car. I mean he's not a happy camper,
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right? He's like man, and and and and
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and no one erasers mentality. He wants so bad to win, right.
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He wanted so bad to be in that championship mix.
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I mean, I mean, how great is go out as a champion or as a
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winner, right? And that's what he wanted to do.
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And he is Martin Truax as a champion.
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He's a winner. He's a Hall of Famer in our
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sport. There's no doubt about that.
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And watching his demise, watching the speeding penalty,
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knocking back, you know, and then of course, he can't pass
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anybody, right? That was one storyline I was
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following. Denny Hamlin being in the Chase,
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right? Denny Hamlin needs to be in the
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championship battle in our sport.
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I mean, you're exactly right. And it, it has to do with his
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brand. It has to do with the longevity
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of his career. It has to do with him never
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winning the championship. You know, a driver that should
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have won a couple championships, he hasn't done it, you know, and
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here we are. He, he's 1 flat tire or one
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speeding penalty, right? Or somebody just cross it up in
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front of him. He's one mistake away from not
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being in that championship or in the in the in the race and
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you're sitting there watching that.
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Whenever they show the camera on him, I'm sitting there, I'm
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looking at it. I'm like, man, one mistake,
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dude, you're out of this and you need to be in this.
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And I'm I'm like you, I'm a Denny Hamlin fan.
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But you know the thing about Denny right now, his his brand,
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he his brand, the Denny Hamlin brand is so what's the word I'm
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looking for, man? It's not controversial.
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That's not the word. That's one word, but that's not
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the main thing. But his brand and in our sport
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is very intriguing is one of them.
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Yes, his brand is very, very, very important I think in our
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sport right now. And it's because what he's done
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is because he's podcast or what he says, the way he conducts
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himself, right? He's got his haters, he's got
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his lovers and you know, for him to be in it, it's good.
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You know, Briscoe, Briscoe been in what a storyline there, man.
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We look at that team. Look at, I mean, Charlie, I, I
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can tell you, man, years and years when I was in the sport
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and even back before the sport and listen to stories and
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listening to guys, when you're half or three quarters the way
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through a season and, and next year, that team is going to make
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a change, right? Whether it be, and most of the
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time the big, the big chain is the driver is not going to be
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there next year or the owner's changing or whatever.
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I'm telling you right now, 90% of the time I've watched the
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team folds up. All right, you are you, are you
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listening to me? The team quits.
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The, the, the, whether it's the driver, the crew chief, the guys
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putting this thing together, the motivation is gone.
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They just don't want to. And it's not really something
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I've noticed this with a lot of people over the years.
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It's not something they they, they purposely do, right?
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They don't get up and say, oh, we're not going to be together
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next year. To hell with it.
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They don't really do that. It's just, it's a fire in them
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that that just kind of glimmers down.
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It doesn't that fire and that desire to do well just kind of
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dims down, dude. And you just don't really do
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what you did before. That's what to me is so
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intriguing about this Briscoe deal, right?
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The 14 and all of those guys. So some of those guys, if you
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read believe what you say, some of the guys don't even have jobs
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next year yet, right? A lot of them have been placed.
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A lot of them have got places to go and some of them don't.
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But but for those guys to keep doing what you're doing, it says
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to me, it says a lot about that team, the character of the
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people on that team. Because listen, man, those guys
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were dealt a shitty hand. There's no doubt the guys on the
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Stewart House race team, they were dealt a shitty hand, right?
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And, but, but very seldom do you see guys keep that fire burning
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that bright to try to make it happen.
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And they're doing it. So to me, that's that's a big,
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big, big storyline. The Gibbs dude, you know, we
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thought where that car ran all night, it looked like he was
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going to start passing cars and get in.
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He started fading back. He's out of it, right?
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Burton, of course, had his fire stern issues or whatever, but he
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was so far back. He's almost got to win to to get
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in. So, you know, I think with the
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guys we got left, I think it's a good mix.
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I I again, I wish, I wish Bart trucks had been in there, but
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then Suarez or somebody wouldn't have been in there.
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And that was a good story like these 3 laps out, you know, the
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dudes 3 laps out and battle for for, for the to be in this chase
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deal, man. And Daniel Suarez, I'm telling
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you, Charlie, Daniel Suarez needs to be in our in our in our
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chase deal. Daniel Suarez.
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He for the fans that's watching and and and loving our sport.
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You're watching the beginnings of a brand with Jen, Daniel
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Suarez. He's he's got his act together.
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He's got his stuff together mentally, right.
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He knows. I don't know who taught him.
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I don't know who's coaching him. I don't know what's going on,
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but that dude has his stuff together for a long term, to be
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a long term superstar in our sport.
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He, he, he, it's just one of those deals.
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Not everybody can do that, right?
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He's got the talent to do it and he's he's either being coached
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or naturally he knows what he's supposed to be doing.
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But you're watching a brand being built right here, watching
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10 years. See what I'm telling you?
20:05
So Suarez right now in 10th. So he's on the bubble for the
20:09
next three races, obviously, but you have Cindric 9th, Suarez
20:12
10th, Alex Bowman 11th, Chase Briscoe 12th.
20:16
And then when you go to the the top 8 right now, so Kyle Larson
20:20
is is leading. And also it just it's felt like
20:23
Kyle Larson's year. There's been so much talk about
20:26
him all season with the double and then all the controversy and
20:29
the waiver, but then you keep going down.
20:32
Christopher Bell seems to always quietly be there year in, year
20:38
out. You know, he's he's a soft
20:40
spoken and he just, he just delivers.
20:43
So he's second, Tyler Reddick third.
20:45
William Byron, another guy who feel like he always starts the
20:48
season pretty hot, winning races, goes in a little bit of a
20:50
slump. He's right there in fourth.
20:52
You got Blaney, Denny Hamlin, Chase Elliott in 7th, Logano
20:57
8th. Chase Elliott for being the most
21:00
popular driver for a million years.
21:02
He's also quietly, like, every time I, I watch a race, I'm
21:07
like, this just feels like one of those weird years where Chase
21:10
Elliott is going to quietly just get in there and then win it
21:14
all. Yeah, Chase is a, Chase is a.
21:17
He's interested, OK And I spoke with Chase somewhere early this
21:24
year, I forget where somewhere we're at.
21:25
I spoke with Chase, we're talking about this car and he
21:28
was talking about, and I've heard this from other guys a
21:31
little bit, probably not as much in depth as I heard from Chase,
21:35
but this car requires a little bit different mindset.
21:38
The way they drive the car, OK, the way the car does, the way it
21:41
acts and reacts. And he he related that last year
21:46
or whatever really 1st come out that he fought that right?
21:48
He fought trying to do what this car was out actually wanting or
21:52
the way it was need to be driven and set up.
21:55
And he he was still in the boat of the older car and doing it
21:59
that way. He finally, he said, he just
22:02
said to hell with it and all right, I'm going to give in and
22:04
start doing what this car doing, driving this car the way it has
22:07
to be driven or whatever you got to do right?
22:09
And he started doing that and he started getting better again.
22:15
I mean, if you remember, he broke his leg, you know, and he
22:17
was out for a few months or whatever, and he came back and
22:20
everybody put it on. You know, he was out, had been
22:23
out of the car, lost his rhythm and all that.
22:25
Just takes time to get back. Well, I never bought into that.
22:28
I thought now there's something else going on.
22:29
And when he explained to me about the car and the way you
22:31
got to drive it and different things, that didn't make sense
22:34
to me. So I think this whole season,
22:36
this year has been, has been a learning process for Chase,
22:39
figuring out what he's got to do to drive this particular car and
22:43
how it's got to be set up. And, you know, it's never been
22:46
flashy with Chase this year. You look up there and he's he's
22:49
sitting there running 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th all day long.
22:52
And then all of a sudden, man, you look up there in the racing
22:55
areas in the top five, they'll have a caution to have a pit
22:58
stop. You know, he'll be 7th.
23:00
They'll have a pit stop and tend to go there.
23:01
He's running third. You're like, where the hell did
23:03
he come from? Right.
23:04
He's so they've been real sneaky with that.
23:07
I mean, you're, you're exactly right in your observation,
23:09
Charlie about him, you know, and you know, but but again, we got
23:13
all this mix, all these guys. Charlie will say, I will say
23:17
this, and a lot of people don't like hearing this, but to be the
23:21
whole battle is getting to Phoenix, right.
23:24
Once we get to Phoenix, you know, I it's whoever's got the
23:28
best setup that day. And and, and, and if you look
23:31
back last couple years, if we get to Phoenix and the Penske
23:35
cars are in the race, that's who I'm going to pull for.
23:38
I mean, that's who I'm going to put my money on is it's one of
23:41
the Penske cars just because they have a good set up for that
23:44
racetrack last couple years. So, you know, it's it's it's
23:46
going to be interesting the next couple races watching this.
23:50
Yeah, Speaking of those Penske cars, you got Blaney and 5th,
23:53
Logano 8th, Sindrick 9th. And when you look at the the top
23:57
12 manufacturer wise, think about the storyline early.
24:01
Ford, Ford couldn't win a thing, right?
24:04
And you got 4 Fords, you're including Briscoe, you got 3
24:08
Toyotas, and you got 5 Chevy's. So pretty, pretty even across
24:13
the board and and good on Ford for figuring it out after a
24:17
rough start. Let.
24:18
Me tell you how weird I am Charlie.
24:20
I'll be watching the race man and they'll they'll show
24:23
qualifying or the race is starting to have qualifying or
24:26
during the race. I'm watching the race and I'm
24:28
looking at the top 10 rundown and then when the race is over,
24:31
I'm looking at who finished were and you know what I'm thinking
24:34
of is Bill France Junior. I'm thinking of Billy France
24:37
Junior. You know why I'm sitting there
24:39
counting the manufacturers, I'm like, all right, first is for
24:42
top five, there's 2 Fords. There's a Toyota or Chevrolet,
24:44
right? Billy's happy, right?
24:47
Or, or sometime I'll see top six or Toyotas or whatever.
24:50
I'm like Bill France Junior is not happy right now.
24:53
That was one of his deals, man. He wanted the manufacturers.
24:57
He wanted parity across the board with these manufacturers.
25:01
He hated and we've talked about this on this show before.
25:04
He hated for one manufacturer to have a have a dominant deal over
25:08
those. He and he would change the rule.
25:09
He would change stuff. I mean, you know, I live that.
25:12
I mean, he would come down and like, all right, guys, this
25:15
ain't happening. You're not going to you're not
25:16
going to muddy up my sport. You know, we're going to we're
25:19
going to cut the spoiler off your car.
25:20
I mean, I watched this happen and I don't know, isn't that
25:23
weird that I would look at the right now at night in 2024, I'd
25:27
look at a rundown and think Billy France would be happy.
25:30
How is that sick? Or is that weird?
25:31
What is that Charlie I don't get?
25:33
No, that's just hey, you're, you're old school.
25:36
I like it. I guess I don't know, man.
25:38
I don't know. No.
25:40
So Speaking of manufacturers, but then also teams, it's just
25:44
the last couple years it's been such about Hendrick Gibbs and
25:49
then Penske always comes late and and wins the championship.
25:52
So, and I don't know who it's going to be, but, but you would
25:55
think for that championship for in Phoenix, probably, I mean,
25:59
you, you could bet there'll be a Hendrick car, there'll be a
26:01
Gibbs car, right? There'll probably be a Penske
26:03
car and it'll probably be one more guy.
26:06
And maybe it could be 4 different teams with 2311, maybe
26:09
Tyler Reddick gets in there. But I I bet you there's at least
26:14
three teams represented in that, in that championship for.
26:17
Yeah, I think you're probably right in, in the luck of the
26:20
draw and things going wrong. But just the parody of the
26:23
competition and the way all these teams that are there, to
26:27
your point what the way these guys are running that should
26:31
happen right now. What would keep that from
26:34
happening is bad luck, a wreck, blown tires, you know what I
26:37
mean, Bad pit stop, whatever that would keep that from.
26:41
But the the parity of those teams that are there, yeah, it's
26:45
it's very equal. I mean, it's just as equal.
26:48
Well, it's just as equal as it's ever been, if not more equal
26:51
than it's ever been in my time in the sport.
26:54
Other than Kyle Larson whipping everybody's ass the other night.
26:58
It's it's been the Paris, it's been it's, it's good.
27:00
It's good right now. And you're exactly right about
27:02
that. All right, from good to what's
27:06
ticking off Rick Mass, anything lately?
27:09
It's been a while since we since we did this.
27:12
Golly, you know, things are going so well, Charlie.
27:16
It's it's just that I I think as I'm getting older, I'm trying
27:20
not to let stuff make me mad as much as it used to.
27:22
And, and consequently, here we are on a Monday morning after
27:26
Bristol and I'm just as I'm just as happy as pig and shit, man.
27:31
I mean, I don't know what, you know, pig and poop.
27:34
I'm sorry. Are we supposed to cuss on this
27:36
show? We're.
27:37
Allowed to. So what is the allowable thing
27:39
we're supposed to do or not allowed?
27:41
Tell me what we're supposed to do.
27:42
Not do Charlie, because I don't know.
27:45
This is Kitty Wallace, right? Right.
27:47
And he really, he really, really tones it down, big guy, right.
27:54
So I don't know where I'm supposed to be yet.
27:56
So here's the deal. I'm still not sure specifically
28:00
YouTube. Every everybody has different
28:03
guidelines, podcast YouTube for us, we're more focused on
28:07
YouTube now. I don't even know this is this
28:09
is true. I, I read somewhere or heard
28:12
somewhere back in the day that you're not supposed to curse in
28:15
the 1st 30 seconds of the video. And the reason for that is there
28:20
are ads that that play right before the video starts.
28:24
And then so the idea is these advertisers wouldn't want to be
28:28
associated with curse words right out of the gate.
28:31
So again, I don't know if this is true, but I usually bleep if
28:35
there's an F bomb or a bad one. I usually bleep it 30 seconds
28:41
into the show. I don't bleep anything usually
28:45
later on down the road. There was one video Kenny did
28:48
where he actually did the video. The whole point of it was about
28:51
the F word. And I did I, I sent it through
28:54
there and YouTube came back and said limited ad suitability.
28:59
Meaning through their AI technology, they figured out
29:02
there was too many F words. So I went back and bleeped them.
29:05
So that's a long way of saying I don't know.
29:07
I know this for for titles, you're not supposed to curse in
29:11
the title. So sometimes I'll do like, you
29:14
know, if you're saying shit, I'll say SH star T So I don't
29:20
know. I don't know that it's an exact
29:21
science. So you can just you can you can
29:23
say whatever you want. Yeah, you know, you don't know
29:27
my mentor. This you, you and Kenny Wallace.
29:29
And I've listened to it. I'm like, man, I don't know.
29:32
After I cuss, I'm like, should I've cussed?
29:34
Well, it doesn't make any difference, right?
29:36
So, but what were we talking about to get on?
29:38
Oh, we're talking about what pisses Rick off.
29:40
I really don't have anything, man.
29:42
You know, still the same old thing, People driving in the
29:44
left lane. I hate that fact.
29:45
In Virginia, we've got these message boards all over the
29:48
state, and about every four days they put up a big sign on the
29:51
message boards. Driving left lane, get a ticket.
29:54
Left lanes for passing, right lanes for driving right.
29:56
We get all that stuff set. That's the main thing gets me.
29:59
But you know, in the racing world, everything's just so
30:03
good. There's nothing went on wrong.
30:06
It's just a it's a lovely day in the neighborhood.
30:09
It is. It's beautiful, especially it's
30:11
always good on a Monday to start the week off.
30:14
You shouldn't, you shouldn't be ticked off, right?
30:16
You should have had a relaxing weekend and getting ready for a
30:19
productive week. Now, how about story time, Rick?
30:23
Mass story time. Anything you got, you know, it
30:25
can be Bristol, you got Kansas coming up.
30:28
It can be anything though, Rick. You know, Bristol, I think about
30:34
I think about somebody I was watching Dale junior download
30:37
last week, right, And somebody brought up today on the download
30:41
a fan brought up the the Watkins Glen, the infamous Watkins Glen
30:48
party that we had talked about on this show before.
30:51
And and Dale was talking about this group of drivers that came
30:54
into these busted in these motorhome and sit there talking
30:58
to him. And Terry Labonte told him,
31:03
Dale, you need to start wearing the Hans device.
31:05
And I thought it was fun. You know, from, from, from day's
31:08
perspective, he, you know, he said, I never spoke to tear the
31:11
body in my life. I never said one word to tear
31:14
the body. And all of a sudden here he's
31:16
sitting in my motorhome telling me that I got to start wearing a
31:21
Hans device and he's like, yeah, OK, that's what I'll do then,
31:24
right? And it was, it was cool because
31:26
he's talking about all these guys in the way, all these
31:29
drivers that came in. And it was me, DJ Dale Jarrett,
31:32
Bobby Labonte, Terra Labonte, Kid Schrader, we were all in
31:38
there. And he was talking about the
31:39
guys in the waiting years of their career coming into his
31:43
motor home and telling him that he needs start wearing a Hans
31:48
device, right? And he's like, well, these guys,
31:51
I don't know who they are, but I've never talked to any of them
31:53
much or whatever. But if that's what you're
31:55
telling me I need to do, that's what I'm going to do, right?
31:58
So anyhow, and he he was talking about Sterling Marlin and I
32:03
called Dale. I said Dale.
32:05
I said, yeah. He said couple of things to that
32:07
story. Number one, it wasn't Sterling,
32:10
it was me. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
32:12
that's right. That's right.
32:13
And I said the other part of that story is that you probably
32:16
don't remember this, but we had a 8O clock practice that
32:21
morning. So we're like whatever time our
32:24
deal broke up. I don't know what time of the
32:27
morning it was. It was late night or early
32:29
morning and we had an 8 O clock practice the next morning.
32:36
I pull down on pit Rd. in my race car and I pull right up
32:39
beside the Budweiser car, which is Dale Junior pull up to the
32:42
the right side of we're sitting there.
32:44
I'm on the right side of him waiting to go out on the
32:46
racetrack. All of a sudden he goes, he
32:51
takes, he hits accelerator like 4 times or five times real, real
32:56
hard and exhaust. The exhaust comes out right at
32:59
my door, right. So all that noise and exhaust,
33:03
he's throwing right on me hard as he can, you know, and I look
33:06
over man, I'm like man, you know, he gets the bird.
33:11
I give him the bird. Don't do that crap, man.
33:14
He knew what he was doing. I mean, we were I think, I think
33:19
all 5 drivers, maybe I might be wrong.
33:23
I know some of us were, we were the slowest on the speed chart
33:26
that morning on that is 8 O clock practice, right?
33:28
But anyhow, when I gave him the bird, he laughed, did it again,
33:33
right. So, but I thought it was neat.
33:37
We've talked about that story many times.
33:38
A lot of guys have, but I thought it was neat.
33:41
His take was, you know, these guys, these veterans, these guys
33:45
that I look up to, right, all came to buy motorhome and Terry
33:49
told me to start wearing a Hans device.
33:52
And I remember DJ added to it. You know, he said, babe, you're,
33:55
you're the future of our sport. You are the future of our sport.
33:59
You're the you're going to be the name of our sport to carry
34:01
our sport for a lot of years to come.
34:04
And we need you to be here. You know, this Hans device has
34:08
already proven to save 3 or 4 guys lives at that point and it
34:11
saved people, right? And we need we need you to be
34:15
here. So you need to start wearing
34:17
that and just that quick because of who said it to him.
34:21
He's like, all right, all right, you know, you know, Dale Junior,
34:25
all right, that's what I'm going to do.
34:26
I'm going to wear the, I'm going to wear the Hans device.
34:28
And you know, probably has saved him.
34:31
You know, it probably has saved. I know it saved a lot of guys,
34:33
dude. And man, I remember the first
34:36
time I put a Hans on, we were at Homestead, Homestead, FL and I
34:43
put the Hans on. I went out, I ran 3 or 4
34:45
practice laps. I come in, they Jack the car up.
34:48
And you got to understand when you when you're practicing, you
34:50
cut in those days, you come in, the guys grab the race car,
34:54
you're hollering, you're talking to the crew chief and or
34:56
engineer, you're looking around, the guys are changing springs,
34:59
shocks, whatever. You're in the car, you're
35:00
looking here and looking there, you know, you're barking,
35:02
talking, yapping with a Hans device.
35:05
You're sitting here like this, right?
35:07
And all this stuff's going on and I can't move my head right
35:10
either way. And I'm like, I'm getting
35:12
frustrated, right? Just being 4040 years, 30 years
35:16
at a race car, doing it one way and all of a sudden you can't
35:18
move your head. I remember thinking, when this
35:20
practice is over, I'm taking this stupid damn thing off,
35:23
right? We go out there, Charlie, I run
35:26
2 laps, go by the start finish. I go into turn one on the second
35:29
lap, the right front tire blows right?
35:32
And if you've raced long enough, you know the angle of attack,
35:35
you know the speed, you know what kind of hits coming.
35:39
And this is one of those deals like uh oh, this you know I
35:43
don't know if I'm going to survive this right?
35:45
It was one of those in race car drivers.
35:47
Y'all know what I'm talking about here right?
35:50
Well that thing went into that wall and it hit so frigging hard
35:52
and I remember when it hit everything grabbed when it
35:55
bounced off the wall and stopped.
35:57
I remember, I remember I'm like, damn, I'm not hurt.
36:03
What's the deal in my procedure that I would go through?
36:05
I think we've talked about it. You know, when I take hard licks
36:08
or hard wrecks, once it stopped, if my head was down, I would
36:12
kind of wiggle both about toes on my feet and try to see them.
36:16
And if they work, then I would kind of look up and try to work
36:19
both hands right. And if they worked, I'm like,
36:21
OK, then we'd start getting getting ready to get out of the
36:24
race car. But that thing hit so hard,
36:27
Charlie, I'm telling you, it seemed like when I got out of
36:30
the car, Mike Hilton and I forget if it's Gary Nelson.
36:37
Anyhow, they were in the tower. They had come out of the tower,
36:42
come down to the racetrack and were there with me at the race
36:45
car. When I getting out of the race
36:47
car, they thought they had another fatality.
36:50
I mean, Mike really felt like, you know, it's one of those
36:53
deals in the car. Honestly, the right front tire
36:55
up into the dash like it was, it was a tremendous, terrible lift.
36:59
There's no doubt, you know, if I hadn't had the Hans device on,
37:03
you know, I wouldn't survive that.
37:04
It's just, you know, anyhow, I remember telling, like Gary, I
37:08
said, guys, I said this is the aggravating thing.
37:11
I was getting ready to take it off.
37:12
I said, let me tell you something.
37:14
I said you need to not ever let anybody get in one of these race
37:18
cars ever again unless they're wearing this Hans device because
37:21
I'm telling you it just saved my life, I think, or saved me from
37:25
big time injury, right? And you know, from that moment
37:29
forward, I was I was sold on the Hans device.
37:31
And then watching after that, watching guys impacts and seeing
37:36
what happened, I'm like, man, this deal has saved a lot of
37:39
lives. I mean, it truly has that the
37:41
soft wall. Goodness gracious.
37:43
But anyhow, back to Dale Junior. That was AI thought that was a
37:46
neat take. That was a neat take for me for
37:48
him to look at it that way. And that's why that's why Dale's
37:53
so popular today. I mean, he, he, he understands
37:55
that he understands the history for sport.
37:57
I mean, you watch any of his stuff, he's always done this
37:59
crap. He's always had older people own
38:01
older drivers, always looking back at the at the stories and,
38:04
and what got him to where we're at now, you know, and that's,
38:07
that's, that adds to his popularity band and I'm, I'm
38:10
happy for him. Yeah, and that was very evident
38:13
Friday. That was pretty cool that that
38:16
night became the Xfinity race all about Dale Earnhardt junior.
38:20
And you know what? I I think that's cool once a
38:23
year because look, you, you need reasons, especially for casual
38:27
fans to watch the Xfinity race and for one race a year to kind
38:31
of be the, the Dale Earnhardt junior show.
38:33
I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah.
38:35
And gosh, that show, you know, we talked about these guys,
38:41
Charlie, when I came along, you're from when I was 1615,
38:46
first time in the race car all up through the day, I retired
38:49
you. When you would move up a
38:50
division or move up a class, you had these heroes or guys that
38:54
you had to look up to or you looked up to and you had to
38:57
outrun. If you're going to advance, you
38:58
had to outrun them and you had to go on, right?
39:00
And but each step along the way, I was taught, I was taught
39:04
lessons. I was taught, you know, what it
39:07
really meant to get in a fight, what it really meant to, if
39:10
you're going to fight, OK, we're going to fight.
39:12
But here's what here's the ramifications, right?
39:14
That's what we learned. It's much easier to talk about
39:16
it, drink a beer than fight. But anyhow, you, you learn,
39:19
especially when you get into NASCAR and you get into Xfinity
39:22
or Bush and you get into Cup, you learn from the guys that's
39:25
been there way before you, how you act, how you react, how you
39:30
drive, how you race. You learn all that and how you
39:34
conduct yourselves. And one of the frustrating parts
39:39
was for some of the people over the last few years, the, the,
39:42
the, the Tony Stewart's, right? The Martin Truex's some degree.
39:47
The, the, you know, the Mark Martins, these guys as the, the
39:51
new guys came along. This, this, the art has changed.
39:56
The art of driving has changed, right?
39:58
And for whatever reasons, it seems like we don't have anybody
40:04
teaching or showing. The guys, the doer guys, the way
40:09
right, whether it's, I don't know, it's just naturally
40:12
happened. I don't know.
40:14
But the the deal with Junior in the Xfinity race is OK.
40:19
We raced here we are. We got a big cooler.
40:22
We're out on Pit Rd. Here's a bunch of ice and here's
40:24
a big cooler of beer, Big tub of beer.
40:26
We're on Pit Rd. man. We're laughing.
40:28
You know, it it, it talked about the racing.
40:32
That's what was so fun in the older days, right?
40:35
Especially the Bush series and Late Models.
40:38
And the guys doing late model stock the car store.
40:40
All these guys, they get out of the race car and they sit back
40:43
and drink beer. And they unless two guys are
40:45
fighting each other, it's usually sitting back and
40:47
everybody's having a big time talking about the race and
40:50
talking about how he should have kicked his ass and he should
40:52
have outrun him and he didn't outrun him.
40:54
Talking about the race cars. All the drivers used to do that
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a lot. And as we've gone on, it's
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saying it's a modernized itself to where, you know, we the guys
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just don't do that anymore, you know, because of media, because
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of time constraints, you know, that stuff doesn't go on.
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And I guess it's it's something that the guys today are missing
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and they don't know they're missing.
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And it's a shame because they could have a lot more fun with
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this if they could do stuff like that.
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But you know, those days are gone.
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They're over with. But I, I, to your point, I
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thought it was cool that junior shows say, hey, guys, look here,
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here's what we can do right when the race is over, here's what we
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can do to have a little fun with this.
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We just raced. Let's have some more fun with
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this. And it kind of, it kind of
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throws back and I, I thought it was very, very cool.
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Very cool. So hey, your story earlier about
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the Hans device, what track was that at?
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HOMESTEAD, FL. Homestead, OK Homestead, FL I
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asked, I asked first a couple questions on YouTube and we got
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we got a couple good ones. So let's see here.
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Corndogger 61 Corndogger 61 says.
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Hi Rick. How did it feel to flip in 1991
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at Talladega? Was it weird and what can you
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remember from it? Hey Corndogger.
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Thanks, man. What's a hell of a name?
42:08
Corn Dog or corn dog? We were coming through the trial
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and I had moved down. I was racing.
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It was Davy. Allison was in front of me and
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me and Buddy Baker's behind me. I moved down through the trial.
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Well, I had a little run to try to run by Davy and Buddy's
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behind me on my left rear and he didn't move right and he clipped
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me and turned the car sideways at it.
42:31
You know those situations, once you're up in there, it just gets
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real quiet and all of a sudden you realize that you're the
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realization that, uh oh, I'm in trouble here.
42:39
That car. One of the things about that
42:41
thing, it's a couple things happened.
42:42
Somebody asked me one time, I said, Rick, what were you doing
42:45
when he's upside down? I said, man, I was just hanging
42:46
on. What you mean he said, well,
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you're still driving. I said no, I don't guess so.
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We'll come back and look the tape.
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All four wheels with his upside down were spinning and at some
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point they stopped. In other words, when I was
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upside down, at some point, I pushed the brake pedal.
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Whoa, baby, whoa. Because all four, all four
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wheels stop spinning. So I like, yeah, you hit the
43:05
brakes upside down, like, that's going to do a lot of good,
43:08
right? And then hit the outside wall.
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Remember, hit, hit the wall tremendously and it slid.
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You know, you're just holding on, hoping, hoping nobody hit
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you, hoping it doesn't take off. Tomlin, you know, it finally
43:18
stops. I remember when it stopped, the,
43:21
the, the a post bar was all smashed down on me and I
43:23
couldn't come out the left side, But I, I saw a light which was
43:27
the right side of the door window.
43:29
And I'm like, well, that's where I need to go.
43:31
But but the, the, the bar, the bars were all caved in on me so
43:34
tight it had to be kind of wedged.
43:36
So I got my gloves off and I got my helmet off.
43:39
And I remember a safety worker stuck.
43:41
He's he kind of crawled down. He's up in the car with me a
43:44
little bit. He's Ricky.
43:44
All right. Yeah, well, hold on here a
43:46
little bit. We're going to get you out of
43:47
here. I said, man, you better get the
43:48
hell out of my way. I'm coming out of here, right.
43:50
And it was funny story that a year later he came up to me.
43:53
He said, Rick, I'm back guy. He said get the hell out of the
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way. I said, dude, I appreciate it.
43:57
I appreciate it. But but anyhow, neat part of
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that story. Buddy Baker I had got when buddy
44:05
got hurt, I drove for his car. I drove his car at Bristol and
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Darlington. He gave my first shot at whist
44:12
the cut. It's like that 1988 Bristol and
44:15
Darlington when when they came back around, I was sitting there
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wrecked. Excuse me?
44:23
Buddy gets on the radio if he's spotter.
44:25
The spotter tells me this three or four years later, Buddy gets
44:29
on the radio. Is Rick out of the car?
44:31
The spotter says no, Buddy, he's he's still in the car.
44:34
Well, Buddy spends the next lap going around upset.
44:39
If the Potter says he as the spotter says he almost starts
44:42
crying. He said, Oh my God, he said I've
44:43
done killed Rick. He said, I give that boy his
44:45
first, his first, right in this, in this sport.
44:50
He says, I love him to death. He's a good boy.
44:53
He's got that little boy son. He is his wife.
44:55
Oh, hell, what are we going to do?
44:57
I've killed him. I don't know, Spider says.
44:59
He's almost crying, comes back around.
45:02
He comes back around and the I'm out of the car.
45:07
He says, is that Ricky out of the car?
45:09
Spotter says, yeah, I've been trying to tell you, buddy, but
45:11
he wouldn't, You wouldn't stop. And he says he's OK.
45:14
He said yeah, he's out here walking around.
45:16
Well, let me tell you something, all these little young buck
45:18
drivers come in here like asshole is running all over the
45:20
racetrack. I ain't putting up that shit he
45:22
cut down on by ass and I'm going to turn his ass.
45:24
He he's not going to turn down on me.
45:26
You know, I don't care who they are, they're not, you know, blah
45:28
blah blah. He went from crying and loving
45:32
me, right? And you turn the switch off in 3
45:35
seconds. Now he's cussing me for he
45:38
wrecked me, but it's my fault that he wrecked me, right?
45:40
It was, it was, it was a weird deal.
45:43
Funny deal, but but strange but funny.
45:46
I like it. All right.
45:47
Another good question. This one is from iRacing Aussie.
45:50
This person is from Perth, WA. How would peak 1994 Dale
45:57
Earnhardt senior do in this current generation of Cup car?
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Would he approach the format by dominating the regular season,
46:05
or would he save his best for the playoffs?
46:07
Well, it would be every lap. It wouldn't make a shit to him.
46:11
Listen to me, dude. It wouldn't make it wouldn't
46:13
make any difference to him. Every lap at every race he's
46:17
going to run it. Today's deal, today's
46:19
generation, last one, it doesn't matter.
46:21
Every lap he's going to run. That thing is absolutely out of
46:24
control, wide open, hard as he can run it, there's no, there'd
46:27
be no hold back. It never was with Dale.
46:29
That wasn't his mentality. He couldn't, he couldn't
46:32
function with that mentality. If he tried to race with that
46:34
mentality, he would not be Dale Earnhardt wouldn't work.
46:36
So that's a very easy question to answer.
46:39
All right, let's end on this one.
46:41
A local a local question for you.
46:43
This is Dubs in Virginia 3572. Ask him.
46:49
So ask Rick what he thinks about a local racing family from his
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hometown. Tommy Bear.
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Is it Booper Bear? It is.
46:56
Booper Bear and Tyler Bear, thanks.
46:59
Yeah, they live. They live about probably 2 miles
47:04
from me. The way the Crow crow flies,
47:06
that fan, that family, very, very integral part of local
47:13
racing scene here. When my dad built that racetrack
47:16
in 67, Tommy is one of the first guys that raced right and he
47:21
made a legacy and he started branching out and going to a lot
47:24
of race tracks. He won tons of races, tons of
47:26
championships. Then his son came along, Booper,
47:29
Booper Bear and Booper kind of followed in.
47:32
Tommy Lee or Tommy Lee. I called him Tommy Lee, but his
47:35
name is Tommy. He followed in Tommy's footsteps
47:40
and you know, started winning races, very talented, all these
47:43
guys very talented, very good, winning championships, going a
47:48
lot of places. He he ran two or three different
47:50
series and won a ton of races, ton of series.
47:53
And now his son has come along Tyler and Tyler's just fell
47:57
right in. So his granddad and his daddy, I
47:59
mean, he, he wins races everywhere they go.
48:01
They win, right? And they're just farmers.
48:05
Tommy, Tommy Lee is a farmer big.
48:07
They go falling back here. And that's, that's what they do
48:09
for a living. They farm and then they, they
48:12
race. And in fact, that Natural Bridge
48:14
head to Tommy Bear memorial race this past weekend at Natural
48:18
Bridge. This, this was the second year
48:20
for that. And I don't know so many people
48:24
like Tommy Lee or Tommy. And in this Shenandoah Valley,
48:27
so many great family, great race car drivers, great families,
48:32
great racing families right up and down this valley.
48:35
So just I'm just cherished to to live here and be a part of it.
48:40
I love it. You know what, we're going to
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end there anyway. And then your clock was was
48:44
beeping. So that's the perfect way to to
48:47
end the show here. A good local grassroots racing
48:50
story. I think we covered a lot.
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Rick, what do you think? That's it, baby.
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Can't. It doesn't get any better than
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this. Charlie.
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Thank you. All right, well, thank you Sir.
48:58
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