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EP #77 - What the Soul Remembers with Jonathan Robinson · Spiritual AF!

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SPEAKER_00: A lot of people fear certain things and they don't know why.
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SPEAKER_00: And sometimes they have birthmarks and they don't know why.
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SPEAKER_02: We choose to reincarnate, but we forget everything when we come here.
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SPEAKER_02: Why do you think that is, or what is the importance of us forgetting all of the past lives?
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SPEAKER_00: I've gone to future lives, and spoiler alert, we make it.
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SPEAKER_00: Earth is fine.
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SPEAKER_01: And I can't get past something that you just said there.
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SPEAKER_01: Off planet, past lives.
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SPEAKER_01: I need to know more.
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SPEAKER_00: He was on a spaceship above Earth and he was projecting his consciousness into his current incarnation.
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SPEAKER_00: It's almost like his higher self was a future version of him.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's happened.
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SPEAKER_02: Hey, I'm Liz Bulf, and I'm Diane Druskull.
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SPEAKER_02: And this is Spiritual as Fuck, where spirituality meets the real world.
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SPEAKER_02: What if some of the fears, relationships, and patterns playing out in your life didn't actually begin in this lifetime?
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SPEAKER_02: Today we are joined by hypnotherapist and past life regressionist Jonathan Robinson to explore what the soul remembers across lifetimes.
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SPEAKER_02: From karma and soul contracts to off planet and future lives.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's get into it.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of Spiritual as Fuck.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, today, Diane and I are pretty excited because there's always a topic that we constantly chat about, pretty much because we feel like we got burned at the stake many years ago together, or many lifetimes even.
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SPEAKER_01: And that is past lives.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, we get so many questions about it.
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SPEAKER_01: And if you're listening today, you are in for a big treat.
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SPEAKER_01: Because we're joined by the amazing Jonathan Robinson to talk about this most fascinating and controversial topic.
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SPEAKER_01: So, firstly, welcome Jonathan.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you for being here.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for having me.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, Jonathan, we want to get stuck on.
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SPEAKER_02: So you're gonna have to forgive us.
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SPEAKER_02: We're probably gonna want to geek out on this as a topic because we're both so fascinated by it.
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SPEAKER_02: And I would love to not start with the origin story or anything like that.
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SPEAKER_02: I would love to know, just given your breadth of experience and the work that you have done, the amount of people that you have done past life regressions with, what is it that you have learned about the soul's journey that you can share with us and our listeners today?
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SPEAKER_02: Just your own perspective based on what you've learned about the soul to date.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow, that's uh such a deep question because there's so many layers to um our soul's journey.
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SPEAKER_00: And you know, it it can everything is meaningful.
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SPEAKER_00: So I meet people where they're at, where whatever, um, wherever they're at spiritually.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, however, this past life regression can help.
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SPEAKER_00: I've found it to help anyone from a beginner who doesn't know anything about it to the most advanced psychic.
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SPEAKER_00: And I do these with psychics, and a lot of them have been witches in past lives or magicians or um sorcerers, uh shaman or medicine women and men in past lives.
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SPEAKER_00: But the soul's journey, so we are here.
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SPEAKER_00: Imagine, like when I went camping, I learned to leave the campground cleaner than I found it.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, imagine that we're all camping on earth and we want to leave the earth better than we found it.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, so we're here to learn and progress, we're here to help others and be in service and to celebrate, just like we're on we're on vacation and camping.
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SPEAKER_00: And I want to raise everybody up when I'm in the room and everyone uh to raise everyone's vibration instead of keeping the vibrations low and controlling and fear, let's raise it up to true authenticity and love and um enlightenment.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, this whole kind of soul question, it's it is big, isn't it?
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SPEAKER_01: Well done, Diane.
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SPEAKER_01: That was straight in there.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, I always think, you know, when someone says, like, well, I'll give you a personal example.
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SPEAKER_01: I remember when my son was born and he was, you know, brand new.
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SPEAKER_01: And I just had this thing of like, oh, he feels like a really old soul.
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SPEAKER_01: And you know, I don't really know where that came from, but that's kind of what everyone used to say about him.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm such an old soul.
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SPEAKER_01: What is this thing around people being like young souls and old souls?
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SPEAKER_01: And is there a time where someone just gets so old they're like, okay, I'm not gonna be doing this anymore.
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SPEAKER_01: Like I give up, I just want to go and chill.
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SPEAKER_01: What's your perception on that?
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SPEAKER_00: Wow, and there's a huge uh fascination with children's past lives, actually, because children operate in theta frequency, the frequency of from zero to age eight, they operate in theta, the same frequency as hypnosis.
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SPEAKER_00: We go to theta frequency, channelers and mediums go to it.
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SPEAKER_00: And so, children, there'd be a five-year-old and they'll ask their parent, hey mom, remember when I was the dad and you were the child and we lived in Japan?
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SPEAKER_00: Then the kid'll draw Japanese symbols and like sushi, and they're so innocent.
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SPEAKER_00: I think people believe the kids more than they believe my clients, even though they're similarly going into past lives, but they're going into recent past lives.
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SPEAKER_00: So they um have night terror sometimes, and they can find uh sometimes they can ask the kids questions about who are you, what's your address, where did you used to live.
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SPEAKER_00: They find the family, and the family verifies all the facts that the kid the kid gave.
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SPEAKER_00: So to but uh that's children's past, but old soul, new soul is a little bit different.
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SPEAKER_00: So we choose to incarnate on earth as a soul to learn different lessons, and so imagine the we and I found that we have hundreds of past lives, if not thousands, because it takes a long time to learn our lessons on Earth school.
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SPEAKER_00: But we we come here to to learn those lessons and imagine like a season, you're watching a season or a multiple season show.
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SPEAKER_00: It has the end mission, which is like enlightenment or um raising the planet's vibration, but the individual lifetime might be an individual episode of I want to learn heartbreak or love or um getting over this uh fear or whatever it may be.
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SPEAKER_00: So we come into this lives with the contracts with a mission, and then we have an overall goal of and eventually perhaps yes, not having to incarnate.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, there's there's a million questions to piggyback off that immediately.
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SPEAKER_02: But I would love to know, you know, the the idea behind us, you know, we choose to reincarnate, but we forget everything when we come here.
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SPEAKER_02: Why do you think that is, or what is the importance of us forgetting all of the past lives?
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SPEAKER_02: And then at some point in time we may be drawn to finding out something about those past lives.
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SPEAKER_02: Can you share, shed some light on that for us?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so Earth School is a tough place because other planets they can actually remember their past lives and their why they came back and uh beyond the beyond the physical incarnation.
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SPEAKER_00: But in Earth, uh we wake up with amnesia and we got to figure it out.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's almost like it's a game.
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SPEAKER_00: Um if it is a simulation, it's the most loving simulation ever because the foundation of this universe um is is love, really.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's what people with near-death experiences say, people doing psychedelic trips say, and um on the other side, they just feel so much more love and connection than they do here.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's why when I go to off-planet past lives with uh different beings, they they even they meditate and do rituals and connect with source just like we do, because we we all have that life force energy that connects us.
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SPEAKER_00: Um so um, so what can you anyway?
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SPEAKER_00: Can you answer the uh ask the question again or or go on?
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SPEAKER_00: Because I almost lost that.
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SPEAKER_02: No, it's good, it's just to understand why your perspective on why we forget things, but you said it is to it is that learning that's that actual, you know, that we're here to learn and experience.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And we wake up with amnesia, and those are the pros and cons of remembering.
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SPEAKER_00: So if we remembered everything, we might have grudges on people that betrayed us in past lives or people that cheated on us or relationships.
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SPEAKER_00: So we come into it with kind of a clean slate.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so we we and also if we knew the rules ahead of time, we might, you know, if we oh, you have to be nice to someone.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, that's not as genuine as just wanting to be, just being loving because you're uh that's that's the way you are.
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SPEAKER_00: So there's pros and cons to remembering and not remembering, but yeah, it makes the game really, really difficult.
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SPEAKER_00: And um there's there's some there's some reasons for each.
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SPEAKER_00: I I kind of like it because we're all on an even playing field and we come in and have to figure it out.
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SPEAKER_01: And I can't get past something that you just said there, so I'm gonna go back to it, Jonathan.
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SPEAKER_01: Off-planet past lives.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, I kind of stopped then.
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, wait a minute, I need to know more what is an off-planet past life.
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SPEAKER_01: Can you explain?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I have some clients and I'm I get like one client a month.
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SPEAKER_00: Last month I got like six though that went to off-planet past lives.
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SPEAKER_00: And it is pretty fascinating because okay, well, if you think about Earth, if Earth ends tomorrow, we're we'll have to incarnate eventually somewhere else to learn our lessons before we um and um achieve enlightenment.
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SPEAKER_00: So um, and then before Earth was here, where were we?
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SPEAKER_00: A lot of people think that star seeds are coming from Pleian, Archerian, Syrian star systems to incarnate here right now as volunteers to raise the frequency of the planet.
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SPEAKER_00: So um when I do these sessions, some of my clients say they're if they feel a lot of these people actually feel lonely.
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SPEAKER_00: They feel like they're not from here and they don't fit in, especially with relationships.
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SPEAKER_00: So what happens is we go to the uh, and these are people that are ready for, I think more people can do it than the ones I've experienced, but uh they can go to past past lives or parallel, however you want to uh think about it.
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SPEAKER_00: But a lot of times they go to uh past lives on off planet.
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's a planet where it's just one species of like blue beings.
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SPEAKER_00: Other times it's a planet I went to a past life with two suns.
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SPEAKER_00: It was very red and deserty.
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SPEAKER_00: They had flying cars, holograms, and they had humanoid reptilians and blue beings that all got along and and were wonderful.
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SPEAKER_02: So um oh, I just I I love I find it so interesting that you're seeing a kind of a ramp up on this as well, because that's kind of telling.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like, or is this um, you know, remembrance coming back to people through uh hypnotic regression because we are starting to open up, I guess, as uh our society becomes more open to, you know, off-planet, let's put it that way, activities or you know, what's happening interdimensionally as well.
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SPEAKER_02: And I know I've um done a past life regression where I had um uh an experience with Arcturia, um, which I didn't even know what that was before then, but it does make me realize that, yeah, it's not just about past lives on this planet, and it doesn't necessarily always mean that it's um, you know, way back in history, way back in time.
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SPEAKER_02: You mentioned the word parallel lives, maybe not past lives.
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SPEAKER_02: What is your take on that?
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SPEAKER_02: So whether it is past lives or parallel lives, is everything happening at the one time?
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SPEAKER_02: What's what your experiences taught you?
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SPEAKER_00: In the in the spirit world, it's yeah, it's almost like everything's happening at time, isn't linear, they say.
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SPEAKER_00: So we call it past lives because the human perception sees a story, they see a beginning, middle, and end, and a young person, middle-aged and elderly.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's what we call it to conceptualize it.
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SPEAKER_00: However, it's it could be, you know, it could be almost like we're looking at our past lives like uh like a book, and right now we're in the current chapter, and the previous chapters are already written of the past lives you lived before.
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SPEAKER_00: And the future chapters are written, however, they're not um like they're wit written in uh translucent writing, so they could change depending on our fate, on our destiny, and on our actions and ideas.
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SPEAKER_00: So I've done I've gone to future lives, and spoiler alert, we we make it, Earth is fine, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, you need to saw that there needs to be a story in this one.
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SPEAKER_02: Tell can you tell us about one of the future life um progressions, I guess, rather than regression?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So I did a uh future life progression with yeah, progression, that's a good way to future past life, um, with with a really spiritual psychic.
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SPEAKER_00: And he was really he had a few near-death experiences, and from near death experiences, we learn a lot because we uh it's almost like us humans, we don't change until we have to, and that's we're challenged and we have to grow, so we grow through these challenges.
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SPEAKER_00: So when you get challenged in astrology or by the universe, you know, think of it as a blessing that okay, if I was just stuck comfortable, I wouldn't have changed.
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SPEAKER_00: So he had near death experiences, his third eye blew wide open.
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SPEAKER_00: Now he's a psychic.
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SPEAKER_00: And I love doing sessions of psychics because my clients get visions, knowings, or feelings.
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SPEAKER_00: A lot of them get visions of their past lives and they can just see it so vividly.
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SPEAKER_00: And he went to a future life of on Earth, and it was a more of a translucent uh being with with kind of bluer skin, but they still looked humanoid.
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SPEAKER_00: And sound healing, Reiki, crystals, um, frequencies were all more powerful with the healing process, and that is congruent with the 26,000-year elliptical cycle around the uh I forget what that's called, but it it we're going to into Aquarius now.
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SPEAKER_00: So we were in the dark ages, now we're going into light, and near Atlantis and Lemuria, they were actually um more translucent as well.
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SPEAKER_00: So those things worked better.
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SPEAKER_00: So he went into this uh future past life, and he was he was uh an uh emperor, and this emperor um I mean honestly, it was similar to today where he was trying to do good for all the people, however, um one of his royal uh friends betrayed him and they they ended his life, unfortunately.
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SPEAKER_00: And then he saw himself on a spaceship above earth.
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SPEAKER_00: And this has happened only three times.
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SPEAKER_00: He was on a spaceship above earth, and he was projecting his consciousness into his current incarnation, if you can believe that.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's almost like his higher self was a future version of him, and it was projecting the consciousness into his current self.
14:54
SPEAKER_00: So then that's happened.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was wild.
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SPEAKER_00: So imagine like your self in the future is help guiding you, could be your higher called your higher self.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yes.
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SPEAKER_01: I just keep thinking, you know, when you're in the room and you're regressing people and they're starting to talk about all of these things, where your mind must go, like the first time you're hearing something like this.
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SPEAKER_01: Um what's the most shocking thing or surprising thing that kind of stopped you in your tracks, Jonathan, during one of these regressions?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, that was definitely one of them because but now it's happened a few times.
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SPEAKER_00: So last month I had um a psych uh session with a lady who was a horse breeder in a past life.
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SPEAKER_00: And in this life, she after the session, she's like, you know what?
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SPEAKER_00: I always used to draw horses when I was four years old.
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SPEAKER_00: And I was like, you know, these people don't tell me these things till after, and it connects all the dots.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: So we can find out fears, phobias, birthmarks in these past life adventures.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'll tell some stories in a little bit.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but the most shocking part was her of her session was sometimes I call the higher self forward to answer questions, and I always ask very politely.
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SPEAKER_00: And when I called her higher self forward, I said, Can I talk to her higher self, please?
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SPEAKER_00: And her voice shifted, her tone and words she used changed, like it was channeling a different entity through her.
16:23
SPEAKER_00: And this has happened in Dolores Cannon and Michael Newton's work as well.
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SPEAKER_00: But it's so um, I train people with this too, and I I did an example session with one of them.
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SPEAKER_00: It doesn't happen with everybody, but it was almost like another entity was speaking through her, and it's always loving, it's never demonic or anything, it's very uh I use a lot of protection within the within the sessions and whatnot.
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SPEAKER_00: But it was answering so many questions so quickly.
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SPEAKER_00: It was like, what does she need to do to uh progress?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, we've it was like so a matter of fact.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, we've told her many times she needs to ground herself and open her third eye.
16:58
SPEAKER_00: How can she do that?
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SPEAKER_00: She needs to meditate with her horse Cinco.
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SPEAKER_00: And how and how's she gonna do that?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, she needs to do yoga more.
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SPEAKER_00: We've told her many times, and it's just like going on and on, and you can rapid fire questions at uh it and then it'll keep answering.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's you can almost like validate it too afterward.
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SPEAKER_00: And I asked, What's your name?
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SPEAKER_00: And they always say, We are not one, we are many.
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SPEAKER_00: So after 5D, it's almost like a hive or group consciousness, and it's like a group or collective consciousness is speaking through her.
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SPEAKER_02: I I I love how you explain that that you explain it so, so well.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, I have uh trained in Dolores Cannon's um methodology for regression.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not practicing, but I I have trained in it because I'm totally fascinated by it.
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SPEAKER_02: And because I underwent, you know, the the uh hypnotherapy myself of the regression myself, that's exactly what it is.
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SPEAKER_02: You you you speak in a totally different tone.
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SPEAKER_02: It's it's you know, you use words and language that doesn't even belong to you.
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SPEAKER_02: It may be set back in a certain period, a word you you don't even know what the meaning of it is, like when I found out about Arcturians.
18:06
SPEAKER_02: So I just find that for you as a you know uh uh a subject matter to work with on a daily basis, there must be just endless fascination in everything that that that you do.
18:18
SPEAKER_02: Um, I do have to say one thing here.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, you mentioned about um fears, phobias, and birthmarks.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, I know one of the things that Liz and I were speaking about beforehand was about birthmarks.
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SPEAKER_02: Can you talk to us a little bit about that?
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SPEAKER_02: About how that may, you know, kind of translate from lifetime to lifetime.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: And you know, I call it forever feelings, deja vu if you're drawn to a certain time period.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but a lot of people fear, uh, they fear certain things and they don't know why.
18:51
SPEAKER_00: And sometimes they have birthmarks and they don't know why.
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SPEAKER_00: So I had um I had a session with a lady with a let's see, which story should I tell?
19:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'll tell a few.
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SPEAKER_00: So I had a session with a story.
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SPEAKER_00: This lady had a birthmark on her right thigh, and she was scared of going in the woods alone, but she liked the woods.
19:09
SPEAKER_00: And she wouldn't go in the woods alone at night, though.
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SPEAKER_00: And we did a session, and she was a mountaineer in a in the Swiss Alps, and she was uh in this trail alone.
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SPEAKER_00: And one day she went to a significant moment.
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SPEAKER_00: She would hike a lot, actually, in that lifetime, and she slipped on a rock and fell down the mountain and got impaled by a stick right in her right thigh.
19:30
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
19:31
SPEAKER_00: Well, she waited till nighttime to pull out the stick, and she bled bled out.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, no one's no one could save her.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: She was stuck, she couldn't walk.
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SPEAKER_00: So um that found out her fear of being in the woods alone at night, but her love for the woods and also the birthmark.
19:48
SPEAKER_01: Um, that's interesting.
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SPEAKER_01: I was telling Diane earlier that I have a birthmark on my head that's just always painful, it always has been.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, so I'll have to look into that at some point.
20:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: So we could do a session and then talk about it on the show if you want.
20:05
SPEAKER_00: I just did that with uh another podcast, and we so she was scared of snakes.
20:11
SPEAKER_00: She's always been scared of snakes, and she feels a little hesitant to use her throat or to use her voice, even though she loves spiritual things and does podcasts or as a host.
20:22
SPEAKER_00: And so we went to a past life, and immediately she's like, I'm being burned.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: And I and I said, Uh, you are a spectator, nothing unpleasant will happen.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: Just look at this from a different perspective of an observer.
20:37
SPEAKER_00: And so I said, Go back further.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: She went back to a she's being taken from her house.
20:41
SPEAKER_00: So immediately I knew it was a witch hunt, and so, but I didn't, you know, guide lead her on or anything.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: And then I said, All right, we'll go back further.
20:50
SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Okay, I'm I'm treating someone, I'm helping someone with herbs.
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SPEAKER_00: I said, Who taught you that?
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SPEAKER_00: Then she went back to a scene when she was five years old and her mom was a witch, and her mom was training her how to do um do magic and do spells and use crystals.
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SPEAKER_00: And then one day she her mom had all these snakes by the fire to keep them warm because they're cold-blooded.
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SPEAKER_00: And one day the snake got out and scared her a lot.
21:18
SPEAKER_00: And um, her mom comforted her, but it still scared her.
21:21
SPEAKER_00: You know, she was this little girl, and she found out her mom used snake venom to treat uh wounds and treat diseases and treat people for different things.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: And later on in that life, she was she grew up to do that as well, use herbs and use snake venom.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: She would flay them and use the snake venom to help people.
21:39
SPEAKER_00: And funny enough, they called her a witch.
21:41
SPEAKER_00: However, pharmaceutical companies use snake venom today to for different things.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: So, um, all these witches, I think, were just spiritual herbalists and medicine women that were using natural remedies and they were shunned by the the propaganda at the time, unfortunately.
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SPEAKER_00: So
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SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: We believe that anyway, don't we, Diad?
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SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: I'm just thinking, you know, those that's what sorry.
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SPEAKER_00: That's uh uh that's uh just to finish, that's what happened.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: So she was um that's she was scared of the snake for for that reason.
22:15
SPEAKER_00: She used snake venom.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: We cleared her throat, so we not only identify the problem or the root cause, we release it because that trauma gets trapped in the body.
22:24
SPEAKER_00: She died of smoke inhalation on the steak, unfortunately.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: And we found out her fear and phobia of the snakes.
22:31
SPEAKER_00: But she uh she said she dreams of snakes and she sees snakes when significant moments happen in her life.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: And then after she didn't even tell, she told me she uses she has a uh moisturizer company that one of the ingredients is snake venom today.
22:47
SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: I love totally joining of the of the little breadcrumbs.
22:54
SPEAKER_01: Oh, and I'm guessing, you know, that because we talk a lot about trauma coming from different past lives and being obviously brought into this life.
23:03
SPEAKER_01: Is this the key reason people come to you for past life regressions?
23:07
SPEAKER_01: And how how do how many lives does trauma play out in until you know it leaves our bodies and or leaves our soul?
23:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
23:18
SPEAKER_00: The I I think a lot of times people say there's no cure for PTSD or trauma and stuff like that.
23:24
SPEAKER_00: And it's not true that when in one or a few sessions, we can help alleviate that, if not rid it for for for good, because we get to the root cause, we identify the what happened, and then we release it using energy healing techniques because that trauma, the subconscious, wants to protect us, it wants to protect us.
23:45
SPEAKER_00: I had someone who was allergic to spaghetti because when they were six years old, they ate spaghetti for the first time and their dad hit them and scared them.
23:54
SPEAKER_00: And then the the mind, the body, associated spaghetti with fear because that happened to them.
24:00
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
24:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, two people can do it good into a car accident.
24:03
SPEAKER_00: One person walks away like nothing happened.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: Another person associates it as danger and can't go in a car anymore.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: So the body keeps score is a really good book, all therapists have to read.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: And that emotion is trapped there.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: This one lady, she um was uh she was on the massage table getting body work done.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: The masseuse pressed into her um into her calf, and then she got a flashback of when she was six years old.
24:29
SPEAKER_00: She saw her mom kissing another man, not her daddy, on the porch, and she pivoted to run away.
24:35
SPEAKER_00: That emotion got trapped in her in her calf.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: So we I they would identify that root cause and create that change.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: So we you typically it's the most recent past life or the ones that are uh very close, that carries over, especially with children and night terrors.
24:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, that usually it's the most recent one, and then we're able to alleviate that, or it's a pattern or cycle that happens over and over until we understand it, we uh alleviate it with these sessions.
25:07
SPEAKER_02: Gosh, it's there's just endless fascination for me on this topic completely.
25:12
SPEAKER_02: And what you're making me think a little bit about then is you know, you're talking about, you know, things may recur until we've learned a lesson.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: What's your perspective on karma and what does karma mean to you?
25:24
SPEAKER_02: And how does it maybe show up in some of your uh clients' experiences?
25:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's you know, it's a little different than an eye for an eye.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: I'd say the karma, you know, if someone's, you know, we've all been male and female, rich and poor, dark skin, light skin, and and all different cultures in past lives.
25:44
SPEAKER_00: So if you were prejudiced to some um religion or race, maybe you'll come back as that um race or religion and have that done to you, you know, as a way to learn if it's for your highest good.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, we learned a lot from betrayals.
26:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, we learn a lot from relationships that don't work out, love and and X's and breakups.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: And so you know, karma is that energy, the universe wants balance.
26:11
SPEAKER_00: So if we're if we're greedy or or we're not doing uh our part or good, that'll eventually doesn't if it doesn't come back to you in this life, it may in a in the next life, and you'll have to you'll have to learn the lesson that you done onto other people.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: And we are our own biggest critic.
26:30
SPEAKER_00: So after we pass on, the there's no like counsel that punishes us in purgatory of hell forever.
26:38
SPEAKER_00: I haven't found hell yet.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm open to the idea, but just haven't found it yet.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
26:43
SPEAKER_00: But we are only critic.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: We we uh we like do a life review, a life audit, and we say, Oh man, I could have been nicer to that person, or I should have been more caring, or would it should have been more so we treat ourselves we're we're we're actually our most biggest critics, so karma does you know come back to hurt us, but yeah, what so yeah.
27:05
SPEAKER_01: I have to ask this one question how would you describe what is enlightenment?
27:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well I would uh and going off of the karma thing, I would say it's when we release all of our karma and baggage and learn all of our lessons and eventually reach on um reach drop our dharma to release our karma to release the dharma, which is the Hawken Scale of Enlightenment.
27:33
SPEAKER_00: If you can put uh post this on the on the video for the fans or the listeners, look research or look uh search Hawken Scale of Enlightenment.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: It's a scale of frequency based on our emotions.
27:45
SPEAKER_00: On the bottom, it's like anger and doubt and fear and shame.
27:49
SPEAKER_00: And at the top, it's um enlightenment, which is followed by authent true authenticity and self-love or universal love.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: And so true authenticity is really just being yourself because we're all puzzle pieces in this giant puzzle, and we just need you to be you and not fear, and not a lot of people put up a wall or a force field of you know hurt.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: So I I believe we're here to ultimately achieve that enlightenment, and it'll take hundreds or thousands of lifetimes to get there, but it's honestly just an endless cycle around that 26,000-year elliptical cycle, and we're going to Aquarius, and we in in this spirit world and we're formless, it's kind of boring.
28:33
SPEAKER_00: I had people go back to past lives or lives before they even took incarnated, and they were like an energy being on a planet that like or a realm that they said it was kind of boring.
28:46
SPEAKER_00: It was like, oh, there's we can redo go here and go there and teleport and learn things, but you can read a book on something, but until you do it, you know, the spirit worlds they think it's so easy to be on earth, but once they get here, it's really difficult.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: So um, once we're here though, we we a cure accrue earth karma and challenges after we betray someone or you know something happens and we don't know what to do.
29:12
SPEAKER_00: So um, so yeah, it takes us a long time.
29:16
SPEAKER_00: And she and then she said, We well, well, I want to incarnate to experience things.
29:19
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we have we're here to learn lessons, we're here to help others, we're here to celebrate, and eventually we can choose to not incarnate here anymore as we uh evolve.
29:32
SPEAKER_02: Wow, gosh, it's it's like that to getting to that enlightenment state.
29:36
SPEAKER_02: And it is it look, that's a topic we've covered on the podcast previously as well.
29:40
SPEAKER_02: Uh the uh Dr.
29:41
SPEAKER_02: David Hawkins work, uh, and it is that you know, raising your vibration, shedding, shedding, shedding as much as you can.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: And obviously, if you go through the hypnotic regressions, you're doing a lot of that shedding work or that releasing um of the baggage that you've carried from one lifetime to an next, which is which is fantastic.
30:00
SPEAKER_02: Um, the idea then that we incarnate, say, into this lifetime where we choose to say have our soul family, or um, you know, whether it's a soul mate, a soul contract, or maybe even a twin flame relationship, um, what's your thoughts on that?
30:17
SPEAKER_02: The like I guess the people that we surround ourselves with when we come from lifetime to lifetime.
30:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, we have a spirit group or a soul family, and that's a group of like 20 or so, maybe more, um, like vibrating souls that choose to incarnate with each other to learn lessons.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: And so if you've ever met someone and you instantly recognize them or know them and don't even have to really use words, you just feel comfortable around them.
30:43
SPEAKER_00: That could be someone in your spirit family.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, for example, my mom is, my great-grandfather was.
30:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, there's people in your life that you just get along with and you vibe with, it's really nice, including people perhaps that you're um you spend time with and you butt heads or bicker.
31:03
SPEAKER_00: So you could be teaching each other tough lessons.
31:07
SPEAKER_00: Um, your soul uh soulmate, uh twin flame and and um significant others could be part of that family.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: I had this one client, he kept killing his spear friend in battle.
31:17
SPEAKER_00: He would be the leader of this army, then he would, you know, destroy this army, then he would come back and he would destroy this army, and he came back as his condescending boss.
31:26
SPEAKER_00: And eventually he realized that, and so he mended that relationship.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, I had this one client, he had a birthmark on his back on the left side, and um, he was scared of Chris Knifes and had fear of uh trust issues with men.
31:42
SPEAKER_00: And so in a past life, we went to the root cause of that, and he was stabbed at midnight with a Chris knife in the back by a stranger.
31:50
SPEAKER_00: So we got to the root cause of all that, and I said, Who stabbed you?
31:54
SPEAKER_00: And he said, My this is my spirit family.
31:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, well, what what happened?
32:00
SPEAKER_00: Well, he actually I should have explained he survived the stabbing, so he survived it.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: Um but it was traumatic for him.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: And I said, His spirit family uh stabbed him.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: Why would your friends do that?
32:12
SPEAKER_00: And they said, Well, because if he didn't change his ways, he was just gonna be going this trajectory downhill of substance abuse.
32:20
SPEAKER_00: Instead, this changes life for the better.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: He was always able to change things and do better, and that's consistent with other near-death experiences.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: Um, right?
32:30
SPEAKER_02: That it does change the trajectory of your life, yeah, because there's something major that has come in.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's that that sounds extra, but it's good to get that as an example.
32:40
SPEAKER_02: Can I just um uh build on that just on the because it came to be there, the the idea, say with um twin flames more so I think than soulmates, or when you dig into what the so-called um definition is, that it's almost like a split soul.
32:57
SPEAKER_02: Is that something that's possible that you see that a soul can incarnate into two two different people?
33:04
SPEAKER_02: Is that is that something you've seen in your work?
33:08
SPEAKER_00: Oh, right.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, well, that would be like a parallel life, and that would be pretty rare.
33:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, like a walk-in would be kind of rare too.
33:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, but that can happen.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: That would be you would get extra credit for that in the spirit world to do two lives at the same time to do it, yeah.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like imagine our higher self is uh brilliant light of of energy, and we it don't we can only incarnate with a fraction of that because our human body can't take on more of it yet as we raise our frequency with all the shifts that have been happening.
33:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh a lot of people are shedding uh shadows and whatnot, but uh we can only take a fraction of it in, and then but a parallel life would be yes, uh soul that incarnates into two bodies at the same time.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:58
SPEAKER_01: It's interesting.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: Has all of this work made you less afraid of death, or when a big challenge kind of hits you, you're a little bit more calm about it because you have that great understanding?
34:10
SPEAKER_01: How how has it changed your life going into this type of stuff?
34:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it has.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, when I first heard about Michael Newton, I read his books and Dolores Cannon's books, and I was like so blown away that I it shattered my paradigm of what's happening, what what this is, because I I wanted to know who runs the world, what happens after we die, why we're here, what's our purpose?
34:34
SPEAKER_00: And so it kind of made me question things and made made me a lot more confident, like, okay, well, I've done this once, I can do it again, and I'm here for a purpose.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: And that purpose is to be the best version of me that I can be.
34:50
SPEAKER_00: And through getting rid of that fear of death, you have a lot more to live for, and you can get rid of that fear, and and because fear is just an illusion, really.
34:59
SPEAKER_00: And a lot of people worry about things and they never happen, or they dwell on arguments that happened years ago that they you know this need to get rid of and let go.
35:09
SPEAKER_00: But we I want to help everyone raise their frequency and rise up and be the best versions of them.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: And that's why I want to share this because it this hypnotherapy in past lives has helped me so much that I want to share it with the world.
35:22
SPEAKER_00: And that's why I'm uh outspoken on about it online.
35:27
SPEAKER_02: Can I ask you to share with us what are some of your own past lives that you've discovered?
35:32
SPEAKER_02: Like, like I suppose we focus a lot on your clients and your client stories, but what about you?
35:36
SPEAKER_02: What have you learned about your own past life experiences?
35:41
SPEAKER_00: Well, I I did my first session, yeah, like eight or ten years ago or nine years ago, and um I didn't think it worked.
35:50
SPEAKER_00: I was seeing these images and I was seeing like Jasmine, I thought, uh the Indian native or India, the country woman.
35:58
SPEAKER_00: And then I then I did the session six months later and I saw the same thing came up.
36:03
SPEAKER_00: So that's actually pretty common with newer uh people on this.
36:07
SPEAKER_00: They think they're making it up because it is kind of like a dream.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
36:11
SPEAKER_00: But it's like a daydream.
36:12
SPEAKER_00: But eventually everything will make sense, it'll have deep connections with your fears and phobias.
36:17
SPEAKER_00: And whether it's whether it's past lives or metaphors, it doesn't really matter.
36:22
SPEAKER_00: I want just people to get the healing from the session.
36:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, so the higher self will bring you information the way you can view it best.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: And I was uh Indian, Indian, well-off Indian woman in my in India, the the uh country, and I was um a younger sister to my brother.
36:43
SPEAKER_00: My brother in that lifetime um got all the credit for things.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: My parents would give give him all the credit and stuff, and that role has been reversed in this life.
36:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm the older brother, and my sister is the younger sister, yeah.
36:58
SPEAKER_00: Or in the lifetime of switched, so we all had figures.
37:02
SPEAKER_00: That's explained that relationship dynamic a little bit.
37:05
SPEAKER_00: And then my uncle, Richie, who is pretty wealthy actually, he was really he was like a king or something, so he's actually really wealthy in this life too.
37:14
SPEAKER_00: And he was kind of not nice to his daughters, and that's a similar situation now.
37:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, and so we don't listen in that anyway.
37:26
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it's uh he he's he's wonderful.
37:30
SPEAKER_00: I shouldn't, I shouldn't uh I shouldn't give it more explanation, but it's uh explains a lot about my relationship dynamics mostly and who I was and why I feel the way I feel.
37:40
SPEAKER_00: I also fell off a roof as a carpenter one life.
37:43
SPEAKER_00: So I whenever I think about going near the edge of a building, I like get scared.
37:49
SPEAKER_00: I do.
37:50
SPEAKER_00: So it can explain a lot of those fears and phobias and relationship dynamics.
37:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can just imagine it just makes you feel better about it.
37:58
SPEAKER_01: Or, you know, if you've got the a person that you butt heads with, suddenly you understand it a little bit more, so you don't get as irritated moving forward.
38:06
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I know that you have an app, and I know that a lot of listeners right now will be like, How can they get in touch with you?
38:13
SPEAKER_01: How can they learn more?
38:15
SPEAKER_01: Um, but specifically with your app, can you tell us a little bit about that?
38:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know what it offers for people that are really interested in in a spiritual journey generally.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
38:26
SPEAKER_00: And so I do hypnosis every day.
38:28
SPEAKER_00: It's like a meditation.
38:29
SPEAKER_00: It you get that reset, like uh your mind is a computer, imagine, and you are all those comp programs in the background are running and the catch is full, and you need to delete the files and the memory is full.
38:41
SPEAKER_00: And when you do the when you restart it, it works better.
38:43
SPEAKER_00: So does our mind.
38:44
SPEAKER_00: So I do about a 20-minute hypnosis or two every day.
38:48
SPEAKER_00: And it's super easy because the voice just guides you to that theta frequency and it feels so good.
38:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, I don't uh drink alcohol anymore, and I don't do those, I don't need that anymore because I do uh these higher vibrational things and exercise and uh live a meaningful life.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: So um don't need to escape.
39:09
SPEAKER_00: And so the the hypnosis gets you that nice reset.
39:12
SPEAKER_00: You can perform better at a high frequency, and I wanted to provide that for more people because custom sessions are great.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: They're uh past life sessions are never gonna be able to replace those because I don't know if you're gonna end up on a battlefield or like that that witch was you know in that scene of getting burned, unfortunately, or on a ship that's sinking or a desert.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: And then I can walk you through the meaningful events.
39:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, however, not everyone can afford that, or maybe they want to do more it more frequently.
39:43
SPEAKER_00: So I have uh journeys, which are past life journeys, trauma release journeys, childhood healing journeys, um, and then I have daily sessions, which are lighter, like performance and confidence and sleep and weight loss and stop sleeping.
39:58
SPEAKER_00: And then I have custom sessions, these are from our rare things for personally for you.
40:04
SPEAKER_00: If someone wants to listen to a session on nail biting or fear of flying or something like that, it'll actually read them a session in my voice.
40:15
SPEAKER_00: So it's using technology.
40:17
SPEAKER_00: And I think you guys are gonna like it.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: There's nothing else like it out there.
40:20
SPEAKER_00: It's called Journeys into the subconscious.
40:23
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I have a fear of flying, so you've just totally piqued my interest there.
40:27
SPEAKER_02: I knew I knew it, Liz, because Jonathan, when I had heard about your app first of all, and one of the things you had mentioned was about fear of flying.
40:35
SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh my god, Liz is going to absolutely love this.
40:38
SPEAKER_02: And I I love so much that it is, you know, things that are applicable every day, as well as those things that depending on what stage of life or what's happening for you in life or where your curiosity is leading you, it's it sounds like it is so much uh such a broader offering than a lot of the other apps that are out there.
40:59
SPEAKER_02: So we definitely would encourage all of our listeners to, you know, to check that out.
41:04
SPEAKER_02: And we'll have all of the details in the show notes of how they can uh how they can get access to that as well.
41:11
SPEAKER_02: But it's it's just so wonderful that you're doing that, that you're, you know, not just practicing it in a one-on-one situation, that it is um that you're getting it out there into your community and out into the community at large.
41:24
SPEAKER_02: It's just a great way to, you know, you can't clone yourself, but at least you can get as much of your your knowledge and your your gift out into the world.
41:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
41:36
SPEAKER_00: I listened to my voice and I've listened to when I was first starting, I was listening to hundreds, if not thousands, of YouTube um hip hypnosis and meditations, and some of them are great, but like one out of every 20 I think was good.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, man, I just don't reach, I just don't get to that frequency, that theta state.
41:56
SPEAKER_00: And so I wanted to provide something that when I do these sessions, sometimes people are like, I don't know if I could be hypnotized.
42:03
SPEAKER_00: I tried it before and I couldn't do it.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: With me, everyone goes under, everyone gets into that frequency, and it's it's about how you explain it, it's about uh building that rapport, that trust experience.
42:17
SPEAKER_00: And I wanted everyone to do it the right way, the safe way, and be able to experience it and have a good experience.
42:23
SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow, it just sounds so interesting.
42:25
SPEAKER_01: And for anyone listening that needs the details, look in the show notes because we will pop everything there.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, Jonathan, last question here for you.
42:35
SPEAKER_01: Is there one idea about past lives that if you thought all of our audience understood it properly, it would change how they see and act in this life?
42:48
SPEAKER_01: What would that be?
42:49
SPEAKER_01: Any ideas?
42:53
SPEAKER_00: Wow, yeah.
42:54
SPEAKER_00: You know, you know, that there's a lot of different aspects, layers, and spiritual awakenings.
43:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, this is a spiritual you can level up spiritually so much faster by understanding who you are on a soul level.
43:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh, from for the collective, we can identify that we've been male and female, rich and poor, dark skin, light skin, and we can be more accepting to everyone, even though we are we're different, we have differences, but we accept everyone for who they are and because we've been all those as well.
43:27
SPEAKER_00: I treat a millionaire the same way as I would treat a homeless person.
43:31
SPEAKER_00: A lot of people will treat someone different if they have more value because they can gain more from them.
43:36
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, no, just be nice to be nice, and you don't need to gain anything from people.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: It's not a that's not always like how we should treat each other.
43:45
SPEAKER_00: So I would hope that we can accept one another for for who we are on uh our merit and our energy, and leave the world a better place and treat others how you like to be treated, and don't complain about the world and the change, be the change you wish to see in the world.
44:03
SPEAKER_02: One of my favorite quotes.
44:04
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
44:05
SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: An amazing way to end this episode as well, Jonathan.
44:10
SPEAKER_01: Truly fascinating, amazing, great stories.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for being here today, Jonathan.
44:16
SPEAKER_01: We really appreciate it.
44:19
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