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#Italygate · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Winter Insurance true the troth, I'm a check both the
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  Speaker 1: adult Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the show. I'm Adam
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  Speaker 1: Todd Brown. Who are you?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Olivia Heidar allegedly, so the mainstream media would
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  Speaker 2: have you say.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this could be a whole deep fake. Me and
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  Speaker 1: Olivia could be in Guantanamo right now. Mean, wouldn't you
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  Speaker 1: QAnon Fox love it?
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  Speaker 2: By the time this episode comes out, I might be
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  Speaker 2: who knows.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of been my concern all year, and like,
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  Speaker 1: especially when all the Capitol riot stuff happened, I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: here we go. Yeah, but at least for the time being,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like these dummy cultists have lost their will.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah a little bit, I am. I am curious though
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  Speaker 2: about whether do you think do you do you think
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  Speaker 2: maybe that this will get flagged on Twitter for promoting
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  Speaker 2: false theories about the election?
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  Speaker 1: It might but interesting, Yeah, it very well could, But
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  Speaker 1: I'd be able to appeal that because we're here not
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  Speaker 1: to promote hashtag italy Gate, of course, but just to
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  Speaker 1: talk about hashtag italy gate and how it's Wow, it's
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. How are people not skeptical of shit
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  Speaker 1: like this?
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  Speaker 2: By now, I mean this was this when as I
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  Speaker 2: was doing the research for this episode, the thing that
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  Speaker 2: I just kept thinking over and over again, especially watching
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  Speaker 2: these YouTube videos, is these have to be the most
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  Speaker 2: credulous people who have ever lived on the planet, because
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  Speaker 2: they will just believe literally anything that you tell them,
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  Speaker 2: as long as you say, you know, I did some
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  Speaker 2: research and that's it, that's all you need.
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  Speaker 1: And listen, I'm not here to make fun of these people. Like,
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  Speaker 1: we've hit the point where it's sad, especially with a
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy theory like this, people are getting swindled. Yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: is a scam. As is a scam meant to separate
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  Speaker 1: you from your money mm hmm. And there's nothing else
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  Speaker 1: to it, and like even credible. Like one of the
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  Speaker 1: things this theory has going for it is Laura Logan,
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  Speaker 1: who I always remembered as a relatively credible journalist. She
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  Speaker 1: tweeted this affidavit that we're going to talk about in
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  Speaker 1: relation to this, and her caption was something like really
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  Speaker 1: interested in these weird things happening in Italy and it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you're Laura Logan, you didn't google around even a little
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  Speaker 1: bit because this all looks highly suspicious. If you just
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  Speaker 1: look into it a very little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, like, if you watch a YouTube video about this,
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  Speaker 2: just click on the channel that posted the YouTube video
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  Speaker 2: and take a look at what they have posted or
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  Speaker 2: not posted about this, and it might it might like
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  Speaker 2: give you a few clues about the you know, uh,
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  Speaker 2: how effective this is.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good place to start, because the scandal we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about it's called Italy Gate, and basically.
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  Speaker 2: Please please explain it, because I gotta say, like up front,
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  Speaker 2: I could. I'm someone who I think, is it's fair
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  Speaker 2: to say, is terminally online. I spend way too much
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  Speaker 2: time thinking about what these lunatics like actually believe. And
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  Speaker 2: I had not heard a single thing about this until
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  Speaker 2: you sent me the notes for this show and some links.
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  Speaker 2: I had literally not heard a single thing about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. The only reason I knew anything
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  Speaker 1: about it is because one listener tweeted at me and said, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: looks like there's weird stuff happening in Italy. And I
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  Speaker 1: watched the video that was attached to that tweet, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, yeah, if you're just going
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  Speaker 1: off that video just does I guess seem very weird.
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  Speaker 1: But we should probably dig into this a little bit deeper.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not like shitting on the listener that sent
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  Speaker 1: me this, Like I get that's my job to look
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  Speaker 1: into this a little bit deeper, as opposed to just
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  Speaker 1: going oh yeah, that's pretty crazy. Huh man, thank for yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I guess yeah wow, Like yeah, that the video in
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  Speaker 1: and of itself is weird, but this this conspiracy, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of holes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what what video did was it that they
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  Speaker 2: sent you?
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  Speaker 1: Do? You know you want the affidavit video?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah I did. I watched that.
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  Speaker 1: That was Italy, so weird. Uh. Here comes some air
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  Speaker 1: quotes Italy's top lawyer, which fucking citation needed because if
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  Speaker 1: you google that guy, all you get are results about
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  Speaker 1: this story.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, if you want to say there's weird stuff
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  Speaker 2: happening in Italy, it is. This guy is making videos
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  Speaker 2: for some reason. That's the weirdest thing.
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  Speaker 1: And he's clearly reading a pre written statement, like you
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  Speaker 1: can watch his eyes go from left to right. And
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  Speaker 1: this all started basically, I'll run through the theory quick. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's basically that the US Embassy in Rome was getting
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  Speaker 1: election results in real time, and as it was becoming
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  Speaker 1: a parent that Trump was gonna win the election. They
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  Speaker 1: were changing those results and then sending them by satellite Olivia.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, sure, of course.
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  Speaker 1: Back to the United States, where those vote totals would
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  Speaker 1: then be changed, much like Ronald Reagan planned to shoot
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  Speaker 1: down Russian missiles with satellite space lasers. Of course, the
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  Speaker 1: libs stole the election from Trump using similar tactics. And like,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into more of the details later, but that's
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  Speaker 1: the broad.
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  Speaker 2: Overview, right, And yeah.
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  Speaker 1: This all started with a press release from a group
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  Speaker 1: called Nations in Action that was posted on January sixth,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, conveniently enough.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, whoa what that's amazing That what timing? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: can't even believe that.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost as if they were trying to get this
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  Speaker 1: information out in time for something. I don't know what.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they know what.
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  Speaker 1: I felt a little bit like Trump when I said
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  Speaker 1: that something. I don't know what. We have a right there.
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  Speaker 2: I think everyone in this country has been irreparably damaged
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  Speaker 2: by Trump talk. And just like it just is a
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  Speaker 2: part of our brains. We can just do it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: at the drop of a hat. You know, it's It's
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  Speaker 2: it's sad, is what it is. It's very sad and
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  Speaker 2: and and really, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What's crazy about it is it really is gonna end
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  Speaker 1: up being kind of a one hundred percent collective trauma
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  Speaker 1: because like everyone else had to live through having Trump
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  Speaker 1: for president. But all these Trump supporters now are coming
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  Speaker 1: to this realization that oh, nothing changed, huh, Like everything,
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  Speaker 1: like the government is just still the government, and we
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  Speaker 1: kind of got played, didn't we, And yeah you did. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would argue all of us got played because there's
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  Speaker 1: even like like when I was researching this, I realized
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  Speaker 1: all of that stuff Trump was saying about, Oh, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna make NATO start paying their fair share, and people
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  Speaker 1: were like, leave our allies alone. The Obama administration wanted that,
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  Speaker 1: like they want that exact same thing. Yeah, so you
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  Speaker 1: get a guy like Trump in office and you can
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  Speaker 1: be like whoop, so sorry, NATO, we had no control
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  Speaker 1: over this guy. What do you want us to do?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: It's a wrestling shit people, it is. But anyway, this
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  Speaker 1: group Nations in Action just because this is the first
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  Speaker 1: point where if you're a believer in this theory, this
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  Speaker 1: is where you should get suspicious because Nations in Action
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  Speaker 1: they claim to have formed in twenty seventeen, or to
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  Speaker 1: quote their website, Nations in Action was born out of
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  Speaker 1: the need to address the collapse of the civil society
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  Speaker 1: with families struggling to maintain faith, values and virtues. Except
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  Speaker 1: in all those years twenty seventeen, which once we get
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  Speaker 1: to this interview with their founder, it goes way back
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  Speaker 1: further than that. But in all those years, they've only
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  Speaker 1: seen fit to publish one thing on their website, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which is this press release saying Italy conspired to steal
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election.
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  Speaker 2: Which, you know, Adam, that just shows you how serious
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  Speaker 2: this is. That this whole time they've been watching for
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  Speaker 2: the collapse of civil society and they've seen it start
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  Speaker 2: to happen, they leapt into action. They're just they're ready
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  Speaker 2: to go.
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  Speaker 1: Up to this point, they've been like a mom and pop,
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  Speaker 1: brick and mortar election watching outfit, and now this inspired
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  Speaker 1: them to finally take that leap and get on the internet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, when all the other elections since twenty
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  Speaker 2: seventeen have been so above board, they haven't really had
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  Speaker 2: much need to be an election watchdog.
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  Speaker 1: No other articles on their website Their YouTube page has
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  Speaker 1: exactly four videos on it. They were all uploaded the
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  Speaker 1: same day the page was created.
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  Speaker 2: And I watched them all today and they're all.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of the same video. But the guy from Dukes
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  Speaker 1: of Hazzard is in one of them. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: mean Johnny Knoxville.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, then Duke boys are up to trouble. You know
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  Speaker 2: they're up in trouble again.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, no way. The guy who got famous driving a
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  Speaker 1: car with a Confederate flag on it is in one
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  Speaker 1: of these videos.
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  Speaker 2: I think Luke is cool though, that's just bo is
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  Speaker 2: kind of an asshole. Hopefully Luke is cool.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully. Yeah. John Schneider though, he looks great people and confirmed,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like John Schneider, that can't be the Dukes
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  Speaker 1: of Hazzard guy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he looks great. He looks like he owns
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  Speaker 2: an Applebee's in Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, he looks like he voted for Trump, and
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  Speaker 1: he very much did. But he's in one of their videos.
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  Speaker 1: And there's four videos and they all kind of send
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  Speaker 1: the same message, which is we, somehow are the only
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  Speaker 1: right wing Trump supporting outlet in America to break this
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  Speaker 1: story about Italy, which that in and of itself should
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  Speaker 1: make you a little suspicious.
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  Speaker 2: And by we they mean Maria Zach, the only person
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  Speaker 2: who has publicly spoken for the organization, right, and.
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  Speaker 1: We'll we'll talk about her in a second. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all of this mysteriously pops up within a week, all
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  Speaker 1: of this Nations and Action stuff, despite being formed in
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  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Their address, according to their website, is fifty
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  Speaker 1: twenty Clark Road, number two oh four, Sarasota, Florida three
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  Speaker 1: four two three eight. And I say that not to
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  Speaker 1: docks them.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I didn't know that this was that kind
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  Speaker 2: of a podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I say it so people listening can google street view
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  Speaker 1: it for themselves and see that that is a UPS story.
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  Speaker 1: Hey Sarah Soona, Florida. But an address is an address.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they live in the UPS Store, you don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe the UPS Store Olivia is a front.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa. I thought only the deep state had fronts.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing. If you're going to beat the deep state,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta be the deep state.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, right, you know what, I hadn't thought of that.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone pull up that gift of the guy tappaness like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I just did it, And I think you should.
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  Speaker 1: You should all get a taste of that too.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody at home, just just lean your head to the
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  Speaker 2: side and tap your temple.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I'm sorry if you're a believer of this
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  Speaker 1: theory and you don't find the fact that absolutely no
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  Speaker 1: one else other than this mysterious group that just popped
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  Speaker 1: up in January of twenty twenty one, the same day
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  Speaker 1: as this theory, no one else had any information of this.
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  Speaker 1: You have to be a little suspicious because here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Not even Trump, not even Rudy Giuliani, none of them,
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  Speaker 1: none of this information like this is basically the third
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  Speaker 1: or fourth version of the conspiracy theory to steal the
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  Speaker 1: election from Trump. It just keeps changing.
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  Speaker 2: There's like ten competing and no one can quite decide
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  Speaker 2: on which one is the right one.
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  Speaker 1: And we talked about this a little bit before we
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  Speaker 1: started recording because it's just so rich. But one of
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  Speaker 1: the videos you can find from the founder of Nations
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  Speaker 1: in Action, Yes, was a woman named Maria Zach There's
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  Speaker 1: an interview with a show called Can We Talk America
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  Speaker 1: and one. It's just a baffling video from a production standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: It is bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: It initially looks like local news or like something that's
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  Speaker 1: got a little money behind it. But as you pointed out,
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  Speaker 1: the host clearly can't read her notes. She has to
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  Speaker 1: put them in front of her face.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's so she's tried to have this veneer of professionalism.
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  Speaker 2: She's got a green screen of like downtown from somewhere
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  Speaker 2: behind her, like glass windows, and yeah, she's got like
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  Speaker 2: sheafs of paper like your stand, like a real newslady,
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  Speaker 2: and she's got sheets of paper in front of her
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, she just can't do it. She has to
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  Speaker 2: fully in front of her face read the names.
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  Speaker 1: I guarantee I know exactly who this woman is, Like
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  Speaker 1: not her name, but I know I know, I know
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  Speaker 1: her vibe. Yeah, because I worked with a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these women when I lived in the Midwest. She's one
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  Speaker 1: of those people who will show up to a job
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  Speaker 1: that you are using to just like scrape by and
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  Speaker 1: be like, Oh, I don't even need to do this,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just doing it because I'm bored my husband all
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  Speaker 1: the bills. I worked with so many people like that,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, quit quit and go find a
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  Speaker 1: hobby and give this job to someone.
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  Speaker 2: Who needs it seriously.
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  Speaker 1: And she's doing the right thing, Like, yeah, yeah, she's
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  Speaker 1: not that's what she's doing. Yeah, I mean not really,
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  Speaker 1: like she's sort of she was on the right path
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  Speaker 1: and then there was a fork and she went the
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  Speaker 1: obvious wrong way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But she's interviewing Maria zach And to add to the
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  Speaker 1: suspiciousness of their only being one article on the Nation's
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  Speaker 1: Inaction website, she says her group has been studying election
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  Speaker 1: irregularities since two thousand and they were responsible for exposing
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  Speaker 1: voter irregularities in Broward County in twenty eighteen. And none
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  Speaker 1: of that's on your website. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, hey, they're humble. You know, they don't
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  Speaker 2: want to prag. You know, anybody can tout their you know,
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  Speaker 2: history of solving major trees and describes on their website
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  Speaker 2: that is. But you know, they're humble. They're just trying
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  Speaker 2: to say, you know, the past doesn't matter. What happened
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  Speaker 2: matters is Italy.
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  Speaker 1: They're not agents of division exactly. They don't want to like,
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  Speaker 1: why expose all of this when it would just divide
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  Speaker 1: us all But now finally we have to, we have
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  Speaker 1: to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: H I do. I am very curious about how you
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  Speaker 2: found that video in particular, just because I did look
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  Speaker 2: at the YouTube channel for that out of curiosity. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And literally the only other video on their channel is
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: a clip from Avengers Infinity War where Thanos meets little
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  Speaker 2: like oh whatever, the person in like the Universe realm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean the video of this interview. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's on some weirdo YouTube page. I just I think
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  Speaker 1: I googled Maria zach okay, yeah, that's how I came
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  Speaker 1: upon that video. But yeah, you're right, I found it
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  Speaker 1: very it's on like it's it's on a YouTube page
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  Speaker 1: called like good videos.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just videos.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like the the avatar is a picture of
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  Speaker 1: an Asian girl's face.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it was weird, very weird.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is good. I researched. I just was.
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  Speaker 2: This is gonna comple completely fuck up my YouTube algorithm
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  Speaker 2: I have. I've got it so nicely curated. I don't
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  Speaker 2: get anything unusual. And this is it. This is I'm
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  Speaker 2: done for on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, mine is all tim videos and then deep State
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  Speaker 1: shit because of work and because I like the bannedheim
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, of course, there's.
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  Speaker 1: Also She also talks about partnering with the Institute for
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  Speaker 1: Good Governance, which, as far as I can tell, not
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  Speaker 1: a thing. There is a Good Governance Institute in the UK,
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  Speaker 1: but you have to spend like fifteen seconds on their
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  Speaker 1: website to realize that is definitely not who this woman
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  Speaker 1: is talking about.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the UK swooping in to save their former
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: colony from bad governance.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and let's talk about Maria zach a little more.
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  Speaker 1: For starters, her full name this is never Let it
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  Speaker 1: be said that I don't research this stuff, Okay, for starters,
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  Speaker 1: her old name is Maria Strollo Zach.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: I found her LinkedIn page, and you know what she's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: done for way longer than being a fairness in voting
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  Speaker 1: advocate or whatever the fuck is happening right now. So
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  Speaker 1: since before two thousand, you mean since before twenty sixteen apparently,
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  Speaker 1: which is when her LinkedIn page says Nations in Action
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  Speaker 1: was founded. She worked as a strategist at the Strollo
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  Speaker 1: Group for twenty four years. Her job description there, according
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: to her own LinkedIn page, specializing in advising and running companies,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: developing and executing public affairs and marketing plans, running political
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: and fundraising campaigns, handling of press, creating opportunities through creative channels,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and successfully executing crisis management plans. Funny it should mention
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: fundraising campaigns because we already know that that is all
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: of what Trump's stop the Steel efforts are about. There
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: have been you don't even need news stories. The news
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  Speaker 1: stories about it are just pointing out that the fine
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  Speaker 1: print in his fundraising emails about stopping the steel all say, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: most of this money's going to go to like paying
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  Speaker 1: back the RNC and the illegal defense and all this shit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's broke.
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  Speaker 1: He's broke. And so if you go to the Nation's
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  Speaker 1: Inaction website right now, there's one article which is about
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  Speaker 1: the election being stolen from Trump, and then you hit
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  Speaker 1: that drop down menu, you get five options home, which
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  Speaker 1: is where the press release is posted about, which is
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: a bunch of lies about when they re formed, volunteer,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: donate and contact us. So this is another effort to
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: keep drawing money out of these people. Yeah, and if
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: they just give enough and believe enough and have enough faith,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: they will overturn those results.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah. I mean, like even that insane quote
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: unquote news program ended like that was on January sixth,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: that they were recording that as people were occupying the house.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: That was like the whole ending segment was her talking
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: about asking for donations. It's just very transparent, i e.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Free thing she does ends with asking for donations. Yeah,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: which I don't know how you're not suspicious of that.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Like if you're on the fence about believing this, keep
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: that part in mind. Yeah, what do they need your
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: money for? If they have already delivered this information to
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the president, which is what they claim, what do they
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: need your money for after that?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: What else is it?
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: That's the that's the best possible result that they could
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: ask for. They got an audience with the President of
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the United States. They're like the MyPillow guy, and they
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: need your money.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what did I need your money for?
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: It?
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Just at least ask that before you give them your money, honestly.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, if you're a person who you know, maybe
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: is listening to this and has those kinds of questions
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: about the election or whatever, all we could possibly say
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: is just do like a little bit. You know, you
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: like to do your own research, So do a little
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: bit on the people that you're giving money to and
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: maybe see if it's something that you trust because it's always.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: These people who will tell you, you know, use your critical thinking,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: think for yourself, just look at all the evidence exactly.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: But then you trust them so much that the only
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: evidence you look at is the evidence they present you, right,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Because why would they invite you to go look into
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: it if it wasn't true? Why why turn yoursel because
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: they know you're not going to look into it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Right, Like, you know, if you've pride yourself so much
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: on being a freethinker, then don't listen to what these
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: people say too. Also, in addition, like you know.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not hard, Like how much money am I
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: asking for right now for you to listen to this?
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: This is a free episode. There's gonna be an ad
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: in the middle of it, sure, but it's free. If
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you want to hear extra episodes that I do actual
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: extra work for, right, you can pay me money for that.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: But in all my years running a conspiracy podcast, I've
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: never once had like a fundraising event. Sure we could
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: get the truth out. We got twenty four hours to
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: get this info to Mitch McConnell.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: That's the thing. Come on, it's like sure, like there's
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: nothing inherently wrong with the act of fundraising. But you
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: gotta look a little bit at like what the what
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the stated goals are of these things, and what you think,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: as a person who is supposedly rational, what this group
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: could actually accomplish in real life with more money, Like
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: could they accomplish more than they have said that they've
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: accomplished with like your money, or you think maybe they
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: are not asking for anything that could like actually be
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: affected by a fundraiser, Like yeah.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Are they do they want more money to storm the
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: capitol again? Because you don't want to donate to that.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: No, I mean definitely it's gonna end up being a.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Bad look when China imposes that social credit score on
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: us in a few years, on any part of that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: So what is this theory? Basically, it's that US intelligence agencies,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: in conjunction with a defense contractor in Italy called Leonardo,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: conspired to change votes for Joe Biden in the twenty
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: twenty election. They flipped votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Leonardo said, we're gonna take these.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Votes and we're going a Trump of vote.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to change it to Biden.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Oh to Biden vote are so fresh, you know what?
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: It is a stinky Trump. A vote you want is
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: a Biden vote instead.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: So how did they do that? Well, obviously they changed
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: vote data at the US Embassy in Rome and then
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: transmitted that updated information to a Leonardo satellite that then
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: transmitted that information to voting machines in all the places
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: where Trump didn't win. And it's a very convenient theory
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: that capitalizes on two things. One a story about Fulton County,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Georgia stopping their count sure, and the spikes in votes
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: that Joe Biden got from mail in voting. And it's
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: true that Fulton County briefly stopped counting votes, but it
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: was because there was a burst water pipe. Yeah, and
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: they actually didn't really stop counting. They ended up still
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: because when people heard they were going to stop, everyone
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: was like, please don't right.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Now, might not be the best plan.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: And somehow stop The steel types have transformed that into
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: all the battleground states stopped counting votes at the same time. Yeah, no,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: they didn't, Like, there's just no evidence of that. It's
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a thing that did not.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Happen, Sure, but is it? Could it have happened?
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Though?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: If you use your critical thinking, Oh then maybe And
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the reason they all stopped counting Olivia is because they
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: realized dear Leader Trump was on his way to a
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: historic victory. So powerful was his win that the algorithm
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: that they'd already written to steal the election was overpowered
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: by the strength of his victory. Yeah, yeah, that is
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but that is actually the ida.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Here, and you are not paraphrasing that much, honestly.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: No. So they they stopped the votes in these battleground
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: states because they needed to write a new algorithm capable
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: of taking down the sheer, dominance and manly of Donald Trump.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, And then that explains this massive spike in
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: votes for Biden, not that several of these battleground states
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: mandated that mail in ballots be counted after in person ballots,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and that mail in ballots skewed heavily toward Biden. Right now,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: it was satellites, sure, satellites. What it definitely don't even
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: get this in your head, okay, because what it definitely
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: did not have anything to do with was decades and
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: decades of Republican efforts to suppress minority votes getting undermined
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: by a sudden need for mass amounts of mail in voting. Yeah, no,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: it was satellites.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: No, of course it had to have been satellites. I
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: don't even know. That was all gobbledegook. Guy, I couldn't
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: make heads or tails of what you just said. Satellites
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Italian satellites sounds much more reasonable.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: And like this, the people who push this theory will
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, how come all the votes came from Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Atlanta.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, maybe because you've been suppressing
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: black votes for decades and decades and decades. Yeah, like
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: maybe because black people generally get like one place they
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: can go vote, Yeah, for like twenty five miles around them,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: and several other efforts to squash minority votes in the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: South and just minority votes in general. They weren't able
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: to do that with mail in voting.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, a lot harder.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't that the election was stolen. It was
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: that Republicans weren't allowed to steal the election.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Like they usually do.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. But see, here's the thing. What
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Pelosi love and Libs like yourself.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah. If there's anything anyone knows about me,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: it's it's that I love Nancy Pelosi love her, she's
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: my fabe go Queen Slay.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: What people don't understand is there's an affid davit and
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: it's alleged to be an affidavit from a guy named
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Arturo de Leo, a former employee of Leonardo, which is
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: like the eighth biggest defense contractor in Italy or something.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Of course he's a former employee Leonardo trick then his
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: name the Leo.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Right, and he's allegedly admitting to all sorts of election
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: related malfeasance. And what they have is video of another
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: guy named allegedly named Alfio di orso Sure, reading the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: text of a document that legitimately just says general affidavit
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: at the top, with no other official letterhead of any sort.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: It has the address listed as like the Italy area
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: or something like. It just gives like a vague idea
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: of where this was happening.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what you're saying is totally above board.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: And this is the thing. Laura Logan tweeted, like she
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: tweeted a screenshot at this and was like, really curious
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: what's happening in Italy. It's like, man, maybe schedule that
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: tweet and look into it first before you let that
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: one fly.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, put that. Leave that in the drafts for a
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: little while.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: And this guy says the information in his affidavit is
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: based on meetings with a high level Army Security Services official.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Well okay, well then who's that like, because this is
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: like three different kinds of hearsay. Yeah, they're saying this
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: guy gave an affidavit, but these aren't his words, right,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: these are the words that another guy heard from another guy.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Right, It's it's like an it's like hearsay about a
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: hearsay about hearsay, and.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: It says it's Italy's top lawyer. Clearly, not like.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know what these really needs some citations on
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: that source.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what people pushing this theory are relying on.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: They're relying on people looking at these source links that
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: point to like Italian websites, yeah, and being like, well,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I don't I can't read Italian. So yes, yeah, they
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: must be right about what's in these articles. And man,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Google will translate that for you.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but of course Google is in the pocket of
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the deep state, so it's only going to show you
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the translation that they want you to see.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. There we go, boom, boom.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm wrong about all of this. Thank you
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: for tuning in.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: All right, there we go. That's it is real.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And so who is his source? We don't know who
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: his source is in the military. Just a guy in
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the military, yeah, told him this thing about this other guy.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: And like, Arturo Delio is a real person and he
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: did work for Leonardo and he was arrested in December ninth,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: in December twenty nineteen for hacking into Leonardo systems to
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: steal information about weapons systems. So his name would have
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: been in the news in Italy.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: So he's basically a bond villain pretty much essentially.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: And what's crazy is there's an article out there. I'll
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: include it in the in the show notes where it's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: called debunking the debunkers, because a bunch of different outlets
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: have dug into this and been like, come on, none
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: of this is true. And Reuters is one of those outlets,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and they did a radical thing, just crazy, unheard of
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: thing in journalistic circles. They reached out to Arturodalia's lawyer,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and they also reached out to the Italian courts and
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: we're like, hey, what do you arrest him for can
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: we get a look at look at right? The Italian
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: courts were like yeah, of course, yeah, and and they
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: reached out to his lawyer, and his lawyer was like, yeah,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: we've heard this. We don't know who that guy is.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Our client is in enough trouble, like you get he
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: tried to steal defense information. Yeah, he's pretty he's pretty
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: fucked already. He's not he's not gonna pull an election
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: fraud in the middle of all that.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's like some lex luthor shit, Like he's
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: already in prison for stealing weapons, but he's gonna steal
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: the election from prison.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: And then this article about debunking the debunkers, they were like, well,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Maria zach didn't talk to his lawyers. She went directly
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: to this guy who gave an affidata. And it's like, yeah,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: that's the problem.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: That would there in lies the rub.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: That is the entire problem here, but you know, consider
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: it all debunked. Sure, so his name would have been
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: in the news around that time, so he makes for
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: an obvious name to point to. And then you're like,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: if you go, you're gonna see these Italian headlines with
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: his name in it and like, oh, that looks like
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the Italian word for internet, so way.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like yeah, even if you use Google Translate,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: it'll just bring up some shit about like hacking. But
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: like Google translates never like one hundred percent accurate anyway,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: so who you know, even if it's you can read it,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: it's not like it'll make a ton of sense.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, and if you do translate those articles and
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: read them, what you realize is this whole theory is
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: just this sort of circle jerk of people using each
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: other as official sources when there's really not an official source. Yeah,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Like you'll see headlines where there's a headline, you'll see
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: a bunch that says something about CIA agent Bradley Johnson
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: talking about how this election fraud would have worked.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Oh that video. That video was weird.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: It's very weird.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Who is that guy? Like, I honestly cannot figure it out.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: He's he's a character, that's for sure. I mean that's
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: probably literally, he's probably just a character.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Exactly, That's what I'm saying.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: And all of everything he's talking about, they're like, here's
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: a CIA agent saying how it would be done. He's
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: just citing these articles that were on these Italian blogs, Yeah,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: that are claiming this is a thing that happened. And
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: he makes it clear that he's just citing those articles
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and that he's not saying this is what happened as
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: a CIA agent. But tired, We're tired, and like he
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: throws out all these insane statements that are clearly meant
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: to like shield this theory from getting dug into too much.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: For example, when data travels through servers, it doesn't leave
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: much of a trace, so it's hard to track fucking
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: what and why does every conspiracy theory of the modern
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: era revolve around data traveling through servers?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Also, have you even watched a movie? Like you should everyone,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: they should just watch Black Hat and they will learn
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: that that shit's everywhere.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: And there's even a version of this conspiracy theory that
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: says at one point, the US Armed Forces had to
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: shoot out with the CIA to get servers back. And
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, then what for what they need them for?
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: If you can't track anything? That like get it together?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Like do these people even fucking huddle up and talk
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: about what their individual theories are gonna be? No, before
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: they get out into the world.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: No, honestly, that's the thing, Like, yeah, it is a
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: circle jerk, and like that is what so many of
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: these right wing conspiracies kind of all boiled down. That's
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: what Q is. All Q is is some fucker on
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: four chan jerkined off, and everyone else is on there
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: is so desperate to believe some bullshit that they take
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: it on face value, not even considering that it could
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: be fake.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And if you dig into the those Italian
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: articles even more, you'll find that their sources are like
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: newsmas and like just right wing outlets in the United
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: States that have since apologized for their reporting on this.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: That kind of leads to the next point, which is
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: dominion voting machines. Like, if you watched the full video
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: where they explain all of this, one of the things
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: they bring up is dominion voting machines. And one of
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the points people bring up is, oh, well, dominion voting machines.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Those were rejected by the State of Texas, like they
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: rejected them for not being secure enough. And yes, well,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: before we get to that, I've mentioned this on a
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: previous episode. But when people on the left and Congress
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: were accusing d Bold of having faulty voting machines that
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: were hacked into in two thousand and four. D Bold
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: did not sue. No, they did not file a defamation lawsuit.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: They didn't file a libel lawsuit. Dominion had. Yes, they
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: have filed lawsuits. And that's what caused Newsmax and all
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: these sites to like back off their reporting right, which
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: again should make you a little suspicious.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, dee Bold knew that if that went
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: to court they would get fucked basically.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: And that's what the My Pillow guy said about Dominion.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: And it's like, Okay, then why is Dominion the one
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: threatening the lawsuit? Take him up on it, Adam, sue
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: you keep saying it.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Let's see. I hope he does, honest. I want to
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: be clear. That would be great. I want to see.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I hope he represents himself in court.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Fucking love it the dream, Adam the Dream.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, film it for a fucking my pillow commercial. And
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: so one of the things people point to when making
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: this argument about Dominion machines is that Texas rejected Dominion
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: voting machines for not being secure. And that's true, but
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Texas has way different standards than the rest of the nation,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: and specifically, they demand that voting machines identify each ballot
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: with a unique number that can be tracked, and privacy
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: types are like, that's going to let people identify who
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: voted for what candidate, And we're really not, like, we
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: get it, yeah, but we're not really in favor of that.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I'm most I'm there, That's how I feel, And.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Most other states feel that same way and thus don't
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: have that requirement in place. So Texas is going to
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: reject more voting systems than any other state would. And
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: what's I think a little more telling is California's audit,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: which we'll link to. California also audited dominion voting machines,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: and what they found was that yes, they could be
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: susceptible to hacking or some sort of interference, and the
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: way to prevent that is to make sure the USB
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: ports on the machines are covered so no one plugs
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: a USB drive into them, meaning they are not capable
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: of in aging in the kind of fraud that is
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: being alleged here.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Right, unless unless that USB that someone plugs into it
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: like has a little satellite dish on it that pops
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: out get smart style and like, yeah, transmits the info.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: And they also said to hack these machines would require
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: changing the code and then rebuilding the machine. Sure, so
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: if you're if you're taking that Texas audit as your
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: only source of information, maybe consider that California audit that says, yeah,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: you can hack them, but you got to have access
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: to the USB ports, like you don't have access to
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: those from the fucking US embassy in Rome.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: But California is full of libs.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: That's true, ribbs who give billions of dollars to the
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: police every year and incarcerate people of color at probably
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: a higher rate than any other state.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Right, real lefties, is what you're saying.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Total leftists out here.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Right, Whereas there are no left wing people in Texas
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: as we all.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Know, No, they all just play by the rules, man.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: So one of the other things they talk about is
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: this really famous suitcase full of ballots video and all
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: it is. We'll we'll link to a couple of people
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: like having way longer of a discussion about it than
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: they should. And all it is is in Fulton County.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: It's video someone pulling a box of ballots out from
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: underneath a table and they're like, see where did those
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: bullets come from? And why are they only counting and
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: when they stopped gown millet's when there's no one in there. Well,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: for one thing, there is video on them, so there's
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: clear Like it's not like they turned off their body
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: cam and went to count these ballots. Like the video
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: is still there, like election observers were still there, and
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: like where do you think they put paper ballots when
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: they're counting them? Like it wasn't a suitcase, it was
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: the box that paper ballots are stored in. And they
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: were in the room where ballots are being counted. Gonna
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: be kept somewhere.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like what And people are like, see, look, they're
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: keeping a big box of ballots in this room where
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: they have to keep a bunch of paper ballots.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: They're supposed to just leave them in loose sheets scattered
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: across the room.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: And yeah, and there recall there was that moment where
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: people counting ballots in Fulton County thought they were gonna
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: go home, right, So they packed up the ballots that
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: hadn't been counted, and they fucking stored them and then
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: they found out they weren't going home. So they're like,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: all right, I guess we're gonna count these ballots again.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: It is not proof of election fraud. There's also Hammer
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and Scorecard. This is a whole other theory. See, this
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: is the other reason you should be suspicious. There's like
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: three or four different versions of how this happens, and
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Hammer and Scorecard is another one. And I think the
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: most damning detail about this spy movie shit is the
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: person who's breading this theory. Basically, this theory claims that
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: one the Obama administration built a super computer called the Hammer,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: was designed specifically to interfere with elections.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Wow, can't believe that didn't come up in any budgetary reports.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's at his library. They're planning there's going to
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: be a display for it. It's going to be right
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: out in the lobby.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: The Hammer, the giant supercomputer. It's this big black orb
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: with like, Yeah, it's.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: All election data being picked up by the Hammer. And
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: the Hammer worked in conjunction with a CIA software called Scorecard,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: so intercept and change votes. Because you know how when
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: you vote, that's sent out into the ether. Sure for
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: any machine to like your vote, where do they think
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: it's going? You're voting right there?
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Like it's right, Like, no, man, no one knows how
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: the Internet really works. Interest it's all wild the wild West.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: You know, it just goes out there and then you
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: know if anyone who with the nohow can can get
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: to it.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: And like, again, these machines aren't even connected to the Internet.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: So there's that. And also the guy who started this theory,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: he's a guy named Dennis Montgomery who is a well
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: known Internet hoax artist. People like and that's very readily
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: available information. Yeah, he was an intelligence contractor at the
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: height of the War on Terror who was notorious for
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: cranking out false information. At one point almost prompted the
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Bush administration to start shooting planes out of the sky.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: And they don't need much prompting for that, No, they
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: were trigger happy.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost as if he has a penchant for
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: riling up people who are triggering, like the people who
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: believe theories like this. He also peddled a claim that
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: he could prove a democratic conspiracy was afoot against Sheriff
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Joe Arpaio and collected one hundred thousand dollars from the
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Maricopa County Sheriff's office in the process. Before they were
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: realized they were being stammed. That one's fine.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's good. That was that. It's actually that
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: makes up for a lot of the other stuff. If
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: you scam the undergrand off of Joe Arpeo, I'm into it.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that one is okay. But now we're supposed
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: to believe this guy is a credible source for claims
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: of an elaborate CIA connected election fraud involving a super
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: computer called the Hammer. Sure, sure thing nazis Yeah, and sure.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Really is that. It is that classic right wing Nazi
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: shit of just like building your opponent up to be
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: the smartest and deadliest and most daring adversary that you
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: could possibly face, who is also a huge beta who
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: like drinks tea and you know, like doesn't do anything.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, these this is such like this is the election fraud.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: The fraud surrounding this election is Donald Trump milking his
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: followers out of millions and millions and millions of dollars. Yeah,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: using theories like this. And that's why these theories keep changing, right,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: because eventually, if one of them gets proven to be false,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: you gotta hit the people with something else to keep
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: them giving money.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: And that's why this Italy Gate shit didn't come out
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: until January sixth, like a month after the Supreme Court
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: finally shot down his last challenge, right, which he had
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: none of this information at that point. This is all
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: new information.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: And really, I bet that they are just kicking themselves.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Maria Zach is just kicking herself about not getting that information.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: To him in time. She must feel so guilty.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Serious, that's and that's why she's pushing so hard for donations.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like she's gotta she's gotta push harder
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: and beef up the funds to make up for that blunder.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's kind of a child sex trafficking trader,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: if we're being honest, right, sure for not getting it
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: to Trump in time.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that there. Yeah, I guess that's I
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: guess that's true.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Way to help the cabal Zach, but also Olivia, No,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: maybe it was Switzerland did this.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, maybe it's a lot harder for me to do
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: a Switzerland accent, but I'll try.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: The Switzerland theory, because you know how Switzerland loves to meddle. Yeah,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just like we helped with the Nazis
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and the gold historically. Yeah, they this theory involves them
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: buying the code to some other election software and in
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: this version, like the data is transmitted to Frankfurt, Germany first.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: And I believe this is the theory where US Armed
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Forces and the CIA had a little shootout. Sure, so
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the the armed Forces could get those servers back and
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: get them to Trump in time to stop the steal.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: And again, that is how you should know you're being played,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: because this theory was one that was meant to like
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: give people hopes. Still right, like, don't worry, the Army
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: has gone in. They got these service from the evil CIA.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: There was a whole shootout about it. Of course you
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: didn't hear anything about the CIA and the army having
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: a shootout in Frankfurt, Germany.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I just I that's where I'm just like, what is
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: your what is your worldview? If you think that the
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: CIA and the Army are like duking it out, they're
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: in a heated rivalry where they shoot at each other
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: over servers. I just don't understand that reality at.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: All, because the CIA is the deep state and the
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Army are the good guys, but.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: The CIA is only the deep state. But then you've
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: got this former CIA guy but he seems above board apparently,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: and so he's fine even though he was part of
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the deep state.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love a theory that involves claims of people
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: being mysteriously killed, but you never really get deets on that.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: And also, the people spreading this theory haven't been killed. Sure, okay,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: because like if they wanted to, the government could just
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: kill you and we would be like, hey, did you
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: do that? To shut them up? And they'd be like,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: who knows? No one ask us. In fifty years, through
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: the Freedom of Information Act.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: No one can say yeah, yeah for real.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I was Joe Biden answering them.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Good, okay, good. I was wondering who this character was. Yeah.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing. I like, it is so easy,
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: so easy for the US government to murder its citizens,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: and they've done it before with impunity, and.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: It's so shot. Fred Hampton in bed.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: If your information is so threatening to this insanely powerful entity,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: who is more powerful than any entity has ever been
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: in the history of mankind, then why are you breathing still?
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I would love to know the answer to that.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: It's a very valid question. Here's the thing. All of
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: this ties back to the same New World order conspiracy
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: of course that right wing types have been pushing for
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: a decade now.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: And I would just love to say again, new World Order,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: the one World government. If you're listening, I love you.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I'm totally on board. I think it's a great idea.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: You know, I watched the expanse the UN it rules
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: the Earth, and that they seem to be doing pretty good,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: so you know, yeah.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I'm off for it. I donated to the kickstarter to
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: get the chip implanted right away. I got the early
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: bird two hundred and fifty dollars.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: If you got it, Damn okay, I gotta I gotta
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: get on that because I would love a chip.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: So on the Italy did It website, Oh, I didn't
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: even mention that. If you go to Nations in Action
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: their website now it says we're having website issues, so
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: go to italydidit dot com instead.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Great, that sounds professional.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: It'll get it.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: And so of course I did. Of course I went
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: to Italy Did It. And there's a video that claims
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: to not only identify who hacked the election, which would
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: be the guy we mentioned earlier who seems like he
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: is pretty innocent in all this, but all that. Well. Yeah,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: like he clearly seems.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Kind of guilty of stealing weapon designs.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly an internet criminal, just not in the way
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: these people think. And they claim to not only know
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: who hacked it, but also why they hacked the election.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, hell yeah, sign me up, and I'm
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: watching this. I'm watching this video. It's eighteen grueling minutes long.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: And when you get to the why part, what's the
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: first thing you see? George HW's infamous New World Orders.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: I hate that and I really hate him.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He was a monster, and I'm glad he's dead.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I know we're supposed to like not see Russia in everything,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: but this is Russia. They show these clips of Trump
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: sass in the UN about how we reject global governance,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: and like, those don't represent the words of a maverick
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: American president. Those are the words of Vladimir Putin, specifically,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: the fourth political theory, which is the idea that communism, fascism,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: and liberalism have been the three big political theories throughout history.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Liberalism destroyed fascism and communism. Yeah, but now it's failing too,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: and it needs to be replaced with a fourth thing,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: which isn't necessarily untrue.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, I'm nodding along, which is weird because
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: it's Putin, but I am not eing along in general.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: But I know that there's a disastrous left turn coming.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Well. The left turn is that part of this new
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: fourth political theory is that countries one are to enforce
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: their borders very strictly if they want to. And two,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: you don't tell an other country what they can and
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: can't do, Like, as long as you're not hurting each other,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: then you're free to. Like, you can expel whoever you
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: want from your country, right, you can marginalize whoever you
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: want in your country, like, none of that. All that
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: matters is that we're not bothering each other man.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: So the fourth political theory is basically just new fascism
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: fascism light fascism, zero.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It it basically just takes the war out of fascism,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Like it just makes it a thing where yeah, let's
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: all just be let's be our own version of fascist.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: And if you want to, like let Muslims in your country,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: fucking weirdo, I guess you can, right.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: It's literally it's the the fancier version of the argument
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: that like Hitler's biggest mistake was invading poland everything else
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: was fine.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, And like that's that's the version of governance
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: that they want. And like, when someone like Putin is
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: talking about global governance, you dummies have to understand. He's
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: not talking about a one world government that's gonna send
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: the UN to take your guns. He just doesn't want
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: to be told what to do on the world stage.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: And it's because he's a fucking tyrant. He is a
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: fucking dictator. He is a bad person and maybe the
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: richest man in the world. Yeah, So when you're sticking
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: up for this idea that Trump is here to fight
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: the new world order, what you're really sticking up for
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: is the idea that Trump is here to kind of
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: do Putin's bidding on the world stage. Because everyone knows
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: America is so big and so influential on the world
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: stage that if we adopt that persona, if we're the
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: first to go, you know what, we're gonna leave you alone,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: You leave us alone. It's called isolationism, right, And I'm
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: fine with that to some degree, but just not the
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: version that Vladimir Putin is pushing.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was a I mean, basically, in a
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: very stupid way, what Trump was pushing for a lot
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: of his presidency. And we have seen a lot of
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: countries following suit and becoming much more open about their
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: authoritarianism and right wing pushes for isolation. So it's not
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: like this is not effective. It is working.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just there's no there's no cabal man. No,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: there's no deep state coming to take your guns the
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: American government. I still maintain that QAnon was a honeypot.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: And now people are all up in arms because the
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: QAnon Anonymous podcast just said the same thing. Oh, they
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: tweeted a thing that said new conspiracy theory just dropped.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: It's like, motherfucker dropped like two weeks ago. But at
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: some point people are going to have to realize they're
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: being played. Yeah, like this New World Order, shit, it's
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: not what you think it is. It's not Oh, there's
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: going to be one government and no borders and everyone's
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: rich history is going to be stripped away from them. No,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Like it's it's no crazier to believe that the New
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: World Order is going to be the culmination of all
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: histories progress, which is what. Yeah, the conspiracy theorist believe, Like,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: is that any crazier than thinking Trump is the culmination
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: of all of America's progress, Like all the patriots that
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: founded this country have come full circle at Donald fucking Trump.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, like he is a tool of rich people
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: at this point.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he he is kind in some ways though, he
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: is kind of the culmination of America as like an idea,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Like it's just not in the way that these people
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: are imagining. He's He's a vulgar, authoritarian idiot and that's
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: kind of what America has been building to who for
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: over two hundred years?
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: So that's true. Yeah, And like the question I had
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: watching this, and the question I've had this whole time,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: is the question I always have about New World Order
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: illuminati Whoever. If they're so powerful and so united in
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: their disdain for Trump, why do you get elected?
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: They couldn't stop that. There was nothing they could do.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: They couldn't flip an even Obama built the hammer in
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, was it not up and running
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: by twenty sixteen?
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's like when Ken Jennings took on Watson on Jeopardy. Sure,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: like the sheer might of Trump's electoral power. Yeah, took
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: on the hammer and won. It's like it's the John
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Henry story first. Yeah, it's it modern times.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Basically, it's a It's like I can't even remember who
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: played chess against Deep Blue or whatever that computer was
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: called Casparov. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, Trump is as.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: We're of.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: He sure is. And it's like, it's the same question
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: we had last week. One of these scammers was talking
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: about how global banking elites, which we know what that means,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: wanted the Federal Reserve to be a thing. So they
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: got Woodrow Wilson elected. But then Woodrow Wilson went on
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: a speaking tour to sell the rest of the country
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: on the idea of a federal reserve. It's like, you
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: can get a president elected, but you can't get the
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: federal reserve passed without a lecture tour. That doesn't speak
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: to your power at all.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: It is that it's just that conspiratorial mindset of just
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: like our enemies are whatever they need us to be
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: at this second in order to make our thoughts not
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: hurt us.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. And man, these people are just they're
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: getting played. Yeah, but I know people hate when I
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: shoot down a conspiracy theory on this podcast. But this
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: is a fundraising ansage.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: It's not like this one took any effort to shoot.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: It kind of shot itself in the foot and then
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: just fell down and we watched.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty silly.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: And the thing, you know, it's kind of sad or whatever,
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: and it's kinda it would be it would be a
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: lot funnier to watch if these people aren't less mad
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: now that they know that they've gotten had. It seems
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: like they just you know, I don't see how this
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: doesn't lead to horror in the future. Is the thing?
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Like there's oh yeah, of course, yeah, like there's just
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how ridiculous the theories are. As long
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: as there's theories out there to say, to point them
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: in the direction of the people that they already want
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: to hate and gen them up to do violence against
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: those people, that just cycle is just gonna keep going.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I don't know, I'm I don't know if
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: I'm more comfortable about the direction this is all going,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: seeing as how there was no violence around the inauguration, Like.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: I was very surprised, but that was weird.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like the best case scenario is that a
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: lot of these q andon people just lose faith in
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: mass yea, And people lose faith all the time. People
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: lose faith in religion all the time. And QAnon is
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: clearly a type of religion, I mean the cult type,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: but a religion nonetheless, And like there have to be
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: people who I would imagine more people than not are
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: kind of losing faith at this point, and like stuff
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: like this should just reinforce the idea that you shouldn't
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: put any faith in this.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there'll be a schism, you know, kind
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: of like the Catholic Church. They'll just there'll be a schism,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: and people will.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: That schism went well, of.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Course, Yeah, no no bloodshed or anything from that schism,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: very peaceful transition of power. But you know, I think
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: there'll be a big schism, and there'll be people who
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: continue to keep the faith as it has been written,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: and there will be people who branch off and find
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: a new thing, and it might be a bunch of
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: different new things, like you know, kind of like Protestantism.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: It just like be a bunch of different versions of
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: their truth, and hopefully a larger percentage will realize that
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: they've just been fooled the whole time and maybe come
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: back to society, although I don't know how. I don't
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: know how that path works because I don't particularly feel
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: welcoming as you know, it's not like these people, you know,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: they were taken in by a religion that was teaching
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: them that an alien planted souls around volcanoes and blew
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: them up. You know, like, these are people who they
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: were taken in and fed a theory that just stoked
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: their own existing hatred of minorities and foreigners and liberals
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: and all of these other people. And that's a lot
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: harder of a thing to be welcomed back from. I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: just don't know how that happens.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you see stories where people are like, man,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: I gave up my entire family for this. Yeah, no
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: one's No one's gonna get sent to Guantanamo for child
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: sex trafficking, right, really, not even Tom Hanks.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Not even Tom Hanks or Rita Wilson.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: And the biggest slap in the face. We covered the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Out of Shadows documentary, which is basically a q Andon
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: recruitment video, and one of the big things they talk
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: about in that is Lady Gaga going to this like
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: art retreat with Maria Brahmovitz, and it's like they're doing
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: all this like satanic imagery and shit. So like QAnon
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: type super duper hate Lady Gaga. So I love that
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: she sang the national anthem at Joe Biden's inauguration, Like
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: that had to like super duper sting. Not only did
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: you not take the Capitol, but Satan's own foot soldier
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: is singing the national anthe them on the Capitol steps.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Now, I mean that would be a good name for
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: her next.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Album, Satan's Own foots.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd listen to it.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: It's do it just to troll the concerns. So I
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: think that's our episode. Yeah, sorry, I don't believe Italy
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Gate is real. I think, uh, whoops. I think this
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: seems like a pr campaign to get a little more
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: money in that Trump Defense fund.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just gets squeeze a little bit more milk
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: out of that stone.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: But hey, if you don't believe me, donate to their
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: website and see how it works exactly.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: What have you got to lose? Just some money?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't hit them up afterward for an accounting
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: of where your money went.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you should ask for a detailed invoice. Honestly I would.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, uh, that's our episode. Do we have anything
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: to plug before we get out of here? Patreon dot com,
• 1:02:53
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• 1:02:56
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• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: got to plug?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Uh? You can find me on Twitter at high there, Hidar. Uh.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: You can also why don't you why don't you follow
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: me on Twitch? I think I'm gonna start doing some
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: doing some more game streaming. Also, Hi there, Hidar, check
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: that out, uh and stay tuned hopefully hopefully have some
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: more fun stuff. I have a have like my own
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: studio home home like studio thing now, so I'm hoping
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: to get some more shit going.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Living it up. Uh. All right, oh yeah, follow the
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• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: d jerks. All right, let's get out here, Olivia, say goodbye, goodbye,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: goodbye everybody. We love you.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:00
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• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: Bab Baba Innaba