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How Big Pharma Turned Cancer Into a TRILLION-DOLLAR Business · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hulghouse. One of the silver linings of the COVID pandemic, as I've oftentimes talked about, was that it woke a lot of people up to the reality of what we refer to as the medical industrial complex or the MIC. And it's just this understanding that they may not be looking out for our best interest. Now, of course, a lot of great things about modern medicine, especially emergency medicine.
• 0:44
  If you're in a car accident, you have a gunshot wound, they do amazing things for you. But in terms of preventative health care, addressing things such as cancer, or any of the other diseases that we're familiar with in our modern society and very fearful of, what we're often told is like, well, there's not really a cure. We're raising billions to find the cure, but don't have a cure for you. But we have a few really expensive treatments for you, like chemotherapy. And so joining us today is my very good friend, John Richardson, who is, his father was a pioneer in alternative cancer treatments, and specifically a pioneer in the substance called amygdalin, which is found in a lot of different fruits and vegetables and foods.
• 1:25
  It's in over 1,200 different foods have amygdalin, yet the apricot seed is one of the most potent. And so maybe you've heard this before. You've heard Bill say, oh, if you take if you eat apricot seeds, it can help with cancer. It seems almost like, really? Is that okay.
• 1:40
  It sounds a little bit woo woo, like you eat some fruit seed, you get cancer, but you go research on Google and they say, oh, well, look, it has cyanide. You're gonna die of poisoning if you eat these apricot seeds. So what we're gonna be talking about today is just the fundamentals. We're gonna look at what are the what are the lies that we're being told, are the truths that are being hidden, and a whole lot more. So I hope this is helpful for you.
• 1:59
  I hope that you can walk away from this. And I tried to frame the overall discussion in the interview in a way that if you have a friend or a spouse or a sibling that maybe is going through this, and maybe has got some bad news about cancer, and is having a hard time breaking out of that kind of more mainstream approach to how to treat it, show them this interview, because maybe this interview can be something that just at least cracks the cracks the eyes open a little bit and say, okay, maybe there's some other approaches that we can take to this. So that's it for the intro. Please enjoy this interview with John Richardson. John Richardson, it is always good to have you on the show.
• 2:38
  I'm glad for you to be here today. So thank you very much for being with us.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: Well, Seth, I'm also happy to see you every time I see you because it's just, it feels like we're friends through this screen. We see each other in person, but I look forward to having this conversation with you because you're just such a great truth teller and you're spreading the message of truth and hope. And so it's always great to be here and talk to your audience and let people know about all the incredible things that are going on, but also kind of the history of what's going on as well.
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: Which is important. And obviously, you know, we just started recording. We had about a half hour conversation before we started because, you know, I just, you know, this morning had some pretty kind of heavy news about a very close, family member that has what looks to be some pretty serious cancer going on. And I won't go into details of it. And, you know, from all the interviews I've done, you know, I'm not I'm not I don't just jump into that, oh my gosh.
• 3:32
  It's it's the c word, and it you know, it's like, oh, the only options are chemotherapy. I know there's a lot of options. Now the hard part is that this particular individual does not see things how I see things and, you know, tends to just kinda follow what the doctor says and everything. So it's an uphill battle. I think that's often as the first step is getting someone to at least accept that there are different treatments outside of what the medical industrial complex presents.
• 3:58
  Right? Just that first step of thinking. I think it's it's such a a big part of, I think, what, you know, is the medical psyop here in America is that for a lot of people that just follow the mainstream, they have this perception that America is so advanced. And if I go to the the the James Hospital or this hospital, if I'm going to this, this is the best hospital in America for cancer. So there's no way that there would be some treatment center in Mexico or some, you know, alternative health doctor that can that can treat cancer more successfully than the the pinnacle of cancer research.
• 4:31
  It's just, it's so difficult to get people to see outside of that. But as we were talking about, that's the first step. The first step is getting someone to say, okay, you know what? I will at least take a look at what you're talking about. Maybe there are some different things out there that we can at least look at.
• 4:49
  And it's not easy, though.
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not. It's because we've been trained that our doctors that wear this coat, this white lab coat, and that was all a creation of the medical system, by the way, wearing the white coat. It's got us convinced that anybody, I can go out and buy a $75 white lab coat, put it on with a stethoscope, and all of a sudden, I'm an expert. You would be stopped. I'd be stopped everywhere I went.
• 5:16
  And so the first thing people have to realize, and it's coming out in the mainstream news, it's coming out in the news that doctors have not been taught the side of the menu, MDs especially have not been taught the side of the menu of root causes and natural treatments. They have not been taught that. Any doctor that you talk to, if you just befriended an MD, an oncologist, a gastroenterologist, an x-ray technician, anybody, when they went to medical school, they learned off one side of the menu. And so they learned the side of pharmaceuticals and advanced medicine, things that are trademarked and patented and that are profitable. And unfortunately, anything that's not profitable for the medical industrial complex or not been patented or been able to fund these huge medical centers, anything like that, it gets pushed aside.
• 6:14
  And so that's the first thing that people need to realize. And RFK Jr. In the news said, he's going to start pulling the funding from these major universities unless they start teaching nutritional therapies. They have to teach the root cause. They have to teach actual science about eating the proper foods.
• 6:36
  And we can go down that path so far. What's happening magically or because of the world we live in right now, Seth, is that even MDs are realizing the audience, my customer base, the patients are demanding that I get an education on other things besides chemotherapy, radiation surgery. And so if the doctors are realizing it and the world is realizing it, then the individual needs to take a step back and go, okay, I'm diagnosed with this, What else is out there? What do I need to know? And that's the biggest thing.
• 7:12
  And that's what you and I spent about a half an hour talking about your relative. First off, they have to be willing to hear the science that's been proven for hundreds of years about what the cancer is a metabolic deficiency disease. And unfortunately, the people that know that see these things about mRNA vaccines, which I spoke to a very successful doctor who owned hospitals in this field told me yesterday, John, it'll never be found in mRNA vaccine. They'll never be able to find a vaccine because cancer is a immune deficiency disease. Your immune system is lowered.
• 7:56
  You've either got food allergies, you've got poisons in your system, or you've got something other dysfunction. That's what cancer is. It's not something that's ever gonna be cured by a drug or by radiation. It's just not gonna be, that's just a, at the best case scenario, that's a life extender. And many doctors are discovering that these other alternative paths, and we call them adjunctive therapies.
• 8:21
  I'm trying to get away from alternative because it should be the first thing. Seth, if we're telling the truth, even if someone decides to go with these expensive treatments of chemo, radiation, surgery, at the same time, should be eating the best foods they can. They should be taking care of themselves. They should be getting sun. They should be getting exercise.
• 8:39
  They should be laughing. They should be smiling. All these other things have been shown they should stop smoking cigarettes and stop drinking alcohol and stop eating glutens, unfortunately, and stop eating dairy. These are some things that we can agree on so that if we can get past the, oh, I don't wanna do anything that's alternative or anything like that, because my doctor says that doesn't work. Well, any doctor that's telling you you're fighting a deadly disease, and so I want you to eat donuts and pizza and Burger King and drink beers.
• 9:10
  While you're getting treated, you should get a second opinion. And so that's kind of the soft sell approach what we're trying to talk to people about is it doesn't have to be all or nothing. If you totally think you wanna go the normal route of, you've looked into it and you've known that the results are less than six percent lasting five years, that's a fact. Less than six percent of people that get chemotherapy and radiation last five years with their cancer diagnosis. So, some it's twelve weeks.
• 9:42
  Pancreatic cancer, it's twelve weeks, some it's six months. The only people that they get to last longer are people that are younger now. And so, that's the statistics and the doctors are afraid to talk about it, but we have to not be afraid to talk about it. And that's the battle. It really is the battle because then I've got doctors all over the country that are brave enough now to tell me, John, I'm wiping out, getting nearly one hundred percent results with type two diabetes.
• 10:11
  I'm gonna speak at this event on the November 8, John, are you gonna be there? Yes, I am gonna be there. I've been in the medical industrial complex for thirty five years, John, and five years ago, I just got disgusted with the system. I couldn't do it anymore. And now I'm showing people how to get rid of their type two diabetes.
• 10:27
  And guess what? It's just lifestyle and food changes and getting off sugar. And he's having one hundred percent results. And so these brave doctors are now not afraid using the right language and not saying they're curing anybody, they're gonna show them lifestyle and immune system changes. We're getting results with non Hodgkin's lymphoma, breast cancer, colon cancer, up to ninety five percent positive results.
• 10:57
  Seth, it's unheard of before, but now people are open to it. My concern is that sixteen hundred people will die today needlessly, absolutely needlessly of a disease that doctors are helping people with all over the place and for reasonable fees. And they're even trying to get people covered by insurance. They're figuring out ways to do that. They're doing it and needlessly, these six hundred people are gonna die because I can't get this news to them or because they're too stubborn to hear it.
• 11:31
  And that's what I struggle with. And that's why I thank you, Seth, for allowing me to be on here today to just, does this reach out again to your viewers to say, look, listen to me. I'm not trying to just sell you some apricot seeds. I'm trying to tell you that we have documented history of that amygdalin found in the apricot seeds. And I hope we can get to the mechanics of it, but amygdalin found in apricot seeds, we've covered it here on this show, has been proven if people eat enough amygdalin, they never get cancer in the first place.
• 12:03
  That is a quackery or tinfoil hat. No, it's not. It's been proven. And I have all the documents and all the history and all the doctors to prove what I'm saying is true.
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: Exactly. I know that I've had these conversations with you so many times. I feel like we can't have it enough, though. There's always new people coming into this. There's always people that, say, a year ago might have been very stubborn, but now they've realized, Okay, I'm ready to listen.
• 12:31
  That's why we keep having these conversations because even a lot of the people that are watching this show, they might know everything that we're talking about, but their husband, their sister, their their spat you know, their their spouse still might be stubbornly going against this. And maybe this is the one show they can then show them and say, look, just listen to this this hour long interview. Just give it a give it a shot. And maybe that's all it takes to to open this up, which is which is that's, you know, a big reason why I'm doing this, and I think it's also obviously why you're doing it. So so I wanna I wanna just, you know, hone in on today's show on amygdalin, on on b seventeen, lay it true.
• 13:08
  I wanna look at this because I've done a lot of different research. I've interviewed a lot of different people that have had a lot of success with in dealing with cancer, whether it's doctor William MacKus, you know, know, working with ivermectin and finbendazole, you know, a lot of other doctors I've talked to. But one thing that I do see that is is consistent is that Laetrile, b seventeen, amygdalin seems to be one of the very consistent threads I see across the alternative, which shouldn't be it shouldn't be the alternative. It should be the main. The alternative should be the chemotherapy, which is, okay, that's your last alternative.
• 13:42
  But we won't get into the semantics of that. But, Laetrile B17 is something that I do see consistently used across the board with significant, you know, rates of success. And so let's just start as if this is our first show together, and we're we're just happy to be best friends somehow. Right? Let's just imagine it's our first our first show together.
• 14:06
  Just give us a just a quick background on your father because your father is, I would say, the foundation of everything that you're doing today really is is from your father who's, you know, blessed is so no longer with us, but has left a legacy that is now helping, I would like to say, millions of people. But let's start there with your father, and then I wanna get more into the mechanics of amygdalin and and, you know, the the cyanide poisoning kind of myth and all the things that surround what you're gonna be talking about. Ladies and gentlemen, our world is being poisoned. You know that. Every day, we're exposed to more chemicals sprayed into our skies, leaching into our food, and polluting our air and water.
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• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So appreciate that. And I wanna say to you also my staff and everybody's telling me that so many more people are waking up now that are hearing about this so that I do find myself having to go back to the roots to get people, well, why does this guy know what he's talking about? Did he find out about this last week and now he's trying to tell everybody in the world about it? Well, no, literally have a sixty year history and I'm 61 this next month.
• 16:23
  Literally when I was born, my dad was involved in this in 1964. He was studying about because he had been to medical school at University of Rochester Medical School, and he was studying about natural answers because he knew he was only taught seventeen hours. We've joked about it. He got one class about nutrition. And at the end on Friday, they were laid out early.
• 16:46
  And I think they had like some kind of junk food that day, back in the 1950s, whatever it was, they were let off because it was so unimportant. We're solving things with drugs and surgery and chemo, and that's all they had. So as he got out in the practice, my dad saw that his beloved patients, he would develop these relationships and build a relationship with a patient. And he'd be helping them if they had a cold or they had a surgery. And he found that once they got diagnosed with cancer, he would send them off to Kaiser Medical System and he would never see them again because the success rates of these people, not to mention their destruction of their life.
• 17:23
  Chemo radiation surgery are not fun. Anybody that thinks thinks that they are, look forward to them, they're fibbing because they're destructive to the immune system. So he saw that in the 1970s or in the 1960s. And so he was really studying about this. And so he found out about this substance called amygdalin.
• 17:40
  And it was this Doctor Krebs, Ernst Krebs senior in San Francisco that was using it to treat his medical patients in 1920s. But even further than that, it was first found in the 1830s in Russia and 1850s, they were using it to treat cancer patients. And this is all information. So it's not just Doctor. Krebs, but the doctor that tied it into my dad was Doctor.
• 18:02
  Krebs Jr, who was in San Francisco and had a clinic, an underground clinic where he was treating people that didn't do chemo radiation surgery that saw the relatives going through it and said, I don't have anything to do with it. And so that's the guy that introduced it to my father. He was purifying it and he was having reportedly one hundred percent success rate with different types of C word because Doctor. Krebs senior and all the other people that have always talked about amygdalin said cancer's a deficiency disease. So if you can get somebody to be eating amygdalin prior to them getting cancer, that's the best solution.
• 18:37
  So once you get full blown cancer, you've had chemo radiation surgery, all these other problems come in. And that's where things like Fenbendazole and Ivermectin come into play because typically when you destroy your immune system, you have to kill the parasites. So the parasites are all around us. And so that's where Doctor. MacKus, who I consider a hero, but I'm desperately trying to get ahold of him to give him all the data that I have about amygdala and to be combining that.
• 19:07
  Everybody out there needs to be combining amygdala, whatever natural protocols are doing. Not because I sell it, it's because it's true and you can get it in your own diet. You don't need John Richardson. There's lots of people just eating their own diet. So my dad had his first human patient was in early 70s.
• 19:25
  He treated her, she came out great. It was unbelievable. It was his nurse's favorite sister, excuse me, his favorite nurse's sister. Then he started treating 6,000 patients, Seth, and he had tremendous results, but he also, they started attacking him. The FDA came after him.
• 19:43
  They raided his office eight times. They sued him four times. They arrested him three times, including once going into Congress. And he had tremendous success. And I'd have to tell you the story and I'll end this about my father here.
• 19:58
  There's so much more. But just last Tuesday, Seth, I got an email from a lady that was a patient of my father's that's in his book. And I hadn't heard from her. She was 12 years old when she went and saw my dad and she's in this book. And she wrote to me and I'm gonna read it to you in the audience.
• 20:17
  I didn't even put it on a slide. I'll read it and this is the first time anybody's hearing this. She wrote to me in an email, it went to our customer service and this is what she said, if you don't mind, let me find it real quick. Okay, and she's in the book. She's on a page.
• 20:34
  A friend I grew up with and knows my story recently made me aware that John Jr. Is continuing his wonderful father's legacy. My maiden name is Herbert, and I am one of the patients in the book, The Results of 50 Cases. She has the book that's so old that it was called The Results of 50 Cases. And I'm about to interview her, but we've talked to her on our staff.
• 20:54
  I can't remember which one I am, but it starts out the 12 year old girl from New Jersey had acute lymphoblastic leukemia in 1974 or something like that. Anyway, John Sr. Was a godsend to my parents and me. We got to be such good friends that we were invited to his daughter's wedding. And of course, we knew no Steve.
• 21:10
  I have obviously met her. I don't know how she was at that time, but I don't remember her at this point. I'm not sure if he's still a chiropractor or not. I'd love to reconnect with them all. I'm now 63 years old, turning 64 on December 30 this year.
• 21:24
  I was so happy that my friend forwarded the interview Cancer Defense with John Richardson, Jr. John recently did on YouTube. I remember meeting Doctor. Krebs several times at various symposiums, and he was such a wonderful man. He made a 12 year old girl not be scared.
• 21:40
  Please make sure John sees this message. We've reached out to her. Is that amazing? It gives me chills. And here she is on page two forty two of my dad's book, the 12 year old girl at the time of her initial diagnosis of leukemia.
• 21:58
  She had taken chemotherapy and radiation at Sloan Kettering. And any of your audience has ever heard me talk about Sloan Kettering? Was 1975. Sloan Kettering is the institute that proved that Leotrol stopped metastases of cancers in 29 tests and then lied about it. And we have the movie and anybody can watch it.
• 22:15
  It's called Second Opinion. But that's where she was being treated with chemo radiation. And she remembers driving home every day from her chemo appointment and throwing up. Her parents would pull over and she'd throw up on the side of the road. And somehow they found out about Doctor.
• 22:30
  Richardson after a year and Her health was deteriorating. She was getting worse and worse. She came to Richardson clinic in Albany, California. And not only did she not throw up when she was treated, she was treated with Leotrol metabolic therapy. And she started bowling afterwards.
• 22:46
  She would go to the bowling alley afterwards and she said, I became a prolific bowler and and I became friends with the Richardson family, came to the wedding, and she's excited. We have a an hour podcast just like this scheduled so I can hear the whole story from her mouth. Amazing, Seth. If that was the only case, I've talked to you about the other cases in the book, Shane Horton, who was sent home to die as a six year old. He was a buddy of mine.
• 23:11
  We were hung out as six year olds and he's still alive today as a 60 year old crab fisherman. Rick Hill, who you've interviewed, still alive today at 74. And there's so many others that I'm meeting and bumping into now that aren't afraid to tell their story. Because for years, they were demonized like my dad. My dad lost his license in 1978.
• 23:31
  So that kind of ends the story of my dad when he lost his license and then he went to Mexico and practiced and was having tremendous success. And then he had a stroke, medically induced stroke and he passed away in 1988, the same exact time that Harold Manor passed away. It was the head of Loyola University biology that proved that breast cancer should be a thing of the past using Laetrile enzymes, which we're gonna talk about and vitamin A. And the same time that this is probably news to you, Seth, because I didn't even really understand, Doctor. Dean Burke, who founded the National Cancer Institute in 1937 and retired in 1974 during the Laotrole Wars when all this battling is going on.
• 24:23
  And he said that in all the years I've been at the National Cancer Institute, there's never been a substance found that was more effective than Laotrole. And he wrote letters to other agencies and they demonized him so much, the founder of the National Cancer Institute that was there for thirty seven years, Doctor. Dean Burke, he died the same time as my father, within sixty days of my father and Doctor. Harold Manor. So you can read into that anything you want.
• 24:48
  I don't wanna go down that path right now. But the fact is when people go, has this been proven? Yes, it's been proven. It's been laboratory proven. It's been blind test proven.
• 24:58
  It's been proven in the world, but we just had it covered up. And why is it that anybody watching has never heard of Leotron B17? Because the system that's worth about $1,000,000,000,000 a year now to people all over the globe that treats cancer as a something you catch or something that's in your genetics instead of treating it as something that is so cheap and effective to treat that you can literally avoid getting it ever if you just followed with the Hunza's or Doctor. John Murphy or Ed Griffin or any of the other doctors that give it regularly to their patients say they never get cancer in the first place. That's a fact and that's what brings us to where we are.
• 25:41
  And yes, I've updated even the information I've had, Seth. So some of these stories I'm telling you, literally, I got that one last week. So I'm bumping into people and now RFK Jr. Knows about the apricot seeds, knows what I'm doing, wants to talk to me. And I'm planning on flying back on November 12 to meet with him and Tony Clark, the head of the MAHA media action.
• 26:04
  But they are just concerned that they don't wanna be considered a conspiracy theorist or you know, this is not proven, We have so much proof, it's unbelievable. Now, we just gotta get people to listen to that proof.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Exactly. You mentioned the Hunsas. Wanna pull that up briefly, and then we can dive into the specifics. So this is an article on CNBC that was published last year. It says, people in this remote valley live to 100.
• 26:34
  They follow five distinct diet and lifestyle habits for longevity. So it says, in a little known air mountainous area called the Hunza Valley located, North of Pakistan, people seem to defy all medical odds. It is primarily home to the Burushu and the Wauke people who for centuries have survived and thrived in remote villages with minimal amenities and rudimentary health facilities. Studies have found that the average life expectancy is around 100 years old. So for anyone watching, that right there should make your ears perk up.
• 27:07
  Like, hold on. They don't have advanced medical systems that, you know, they they don't they may not even have running water the same way that we do. Yet their life expectancy, the average is 100 years old. Okay. So it says here's the five things they do.
• 27:22
  Number one, it says they consume apricot seeds in oil. Because apricot seeds are one of the most important local crops in the Valley. Studies have shown that apricot seeds can help fight cancer and other sources of inflammation in the body, in part due to a compound called amygdalin, which is what that's what we're gonna be talking about. It says, nearly every traditional hanzai dish includes apricot oil. Back in the day, it was made by him, but now locals use machines to extract it from their harvester kernels.
• 27:49
  My mother-in-law told me that fifty years ago, it was all anyone used to cook food with, even meat. Dried versions of the fruit also help with, altitude sickness and are boiled into a soup come winter, that they are harvesting the apricot seeds. So I'm not gonna go into the other five items, other four items here. I just wanna focus in on this. So it's strange, and it's kind of amazing that a mainstream media like the CNBC is even talking about how these seeds have been shown to help fight cancer.
• 28:18
  Where if if you look up now, if you Google can apricot seeds help with cancer, all you get are warnings and, oh, that's kinda you're getting cyanide poisoning and everything like that. So why don't you just walk us through what is amygdalin? What is Latro? What are b what are b seventeen? And how do they work?
• 28:39
  Right? On a kind of an enzyme or a cellular level, how do these things work? And how is it that they have been proven time and time again as effective things as preventives for cancer, but also as helping to, eliminate cancer from somebody? Walk us through how this works.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, will. And I just want to show you that that's the Hunza that Ed Griffin talked about. They've been talked about for years and studied for years. And so it's not the only place. I had an employee that I hired from Tajikistan.
• 29:11
  And he said they apricot seeds, They grow them like weeds. They dry them on the roof. And he had to call his mom after I told him the story about apricot seeds and say, Mom, do we have any cancer in our country? And she said, No, we don't get cancer here. So it's not just the Hunsas.
• 29:25
  There's other tribes and other organizations. I just wanted to say that. But amygdalin is found in 1,200 different foods. And what it does is it goes into your blood system after you eat the food that has it in it. So the apricot seed, for example, has twenty milligrams, but you get in all sorts of other foods, lima beans, millet, barley, sorghum, molasses, the seeds on the side of strawberries, all stone fruits, all apple seeds, all watermelon seeds, nuts, berries.
• 29:52
  It's all sorts of ways to get it. But what happens is when you digest it, it goes into your blood system and then it floats in your blood. And if you eat enough amygdalin on a given day and let's say you happen to have a cell that is improperly multiplying. If that cell, amygdalin comes upon that cell, they have a chemical reaction. And what creates that chemical reaction?
• 30:14
  Amygdalin is four different things, four different elements, to make it very simple. Two molecules of glucose, one molecule of cyanide and one of benzaldehyde. Now I have collected since last time I've met you, Seth, all of the amazing doctors have said the cyanide poisoning lie is an absolute lie. So I won't cover that right this second, but that's the next question people ask. The cyanide that's in amygdalin is specifically designed by nature and by God to break apart when it comes across a cancer cell.
• 30:50
  A cancer cell produces an enzyme called beta glucosidase. It's not just found around it, just by chance, the cancer cell actually produces it. And why does it produce it? I don't know, God's mysterious, but that is the only thing that unlocks the amygdalin. So any cyanide concerns only should only be had if you have excess cancer cells.
• 31:12
  And if you have excess cancer cells, when amygdalin comes along and beta glucosidase breaks it apart, the cancer loves glucose and then is killed by the cyanide and benzaldehyde. And that's what keeps the Hunza's cancer free. That's what keeps anybody cancer free. All the people that have talked about amygdala being part of their diet, and MD, Doctor. John Murphy said, everybody always asks, people should be getting two fifty milligrams a day.
• 31:41
  My dad said one hundred milligrams a day. So my dad may have been right in the 1970s, but now in 2025, Doctor. Murphy, an MD that's been using for twenty five years successfully says, if you can eat two fifty milligrams a day of amygdalin, you don't get the C word. It doesn't metastasize in the first place. Now what happens is that side on benzalde, if there's any excess and it goes throughout your blood system, when it comes across a healthy cell, you have this amazing enzyme that only healthy cells produce, and that's called rhodonase.
• 32:12
  A cancer cell doesn't produce it, a healthy cell does, and that rhodonase breaks down the cyanide and benzaldehyde into analgesics. It's all laid out and we don't have time to go over all of the science, but any doctor that wants to approach me and find out the head of biology, Harold Banner, he drew it all out over a five year study exactly how these enzymes work, the names of them, how he tested the blood of the animals and the patients they use it on. So what I'm saying is not just I came up with it a month ago and now my dad taught it. Harold Manor taught it. Doctor.
• 32:49
  Dean Burke knew what it was. He said, For anybody that thinks that you have to be worried about amygdalin because of cyanide, you don't understand chemistry. You just don't understand biochemistry because that would be like us being afraid of B12 because it's got cyanide, cyanocobalamin, that keeps us from getting pernicious anemia. These water soluble nutrients are actually necessary for this God given immune system in order to fight off disease. Scurvy is the same thing.
• 33:19
  So if we just walked through the chemistry, it can get more detailed than that. But if you're just a healthy person that says, Oh, I don't have cancer. Why do I need to eat healthy foods? Or Why do I need to eat amygdala? Because every one of us has cancer cells, babies, young adults, teenagers.
• 33:38
  And in this world, we have so many things that help their body, helps destroy our immune system and creates cancer. Like radiation creates cancer cells that then produce beta glucosidase. And then if you have plenty of amygdalin, it kills the cancer cell. So that's the chemistry of why amygdalin works in somebody that's healthy. The problem that it could
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, I just want to kind of rehash it just to make sure I'm following So in my own basically, amygdalin, which is found in a bunch of different foods, you know, specifically, as you mentioned, stone fruit, apple seeds, apricot seeds. Yep. It's It's 100 different foods. There you go. 1,200 different foods.
• 34:21
  Most potent in apricot seed, though. That amygdalin, of the elements in it, one of the molecules is cyanide. Now, we know cyanide can cause cell death, right, which is cell apoptosis, if I remember correctly, my medical terms. Yep. But that cyanide though is basically locked up.
• 34:39
  And it's only locked up if the cell produces a particular enzyme called beta glu beta glucosidase. Right? And so beta glucosidase is like, it's the key that unlocks that cyanide, that then allow that then allows that cyanide to then go into that specific cell. Healthy cells, if I understand correctly, healthy cells do not produce the beta glucosidase enzyme. That enzyme is only produced by cancerous cells.
• 35:10
  And so, basically, it's it's all I mean, the the it's hard to look at this and not believe in God. It's hard to look at this and and think that
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: And that I
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: it's like there's not a a grand planner. There's not a maker that has thought through this.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: You just gave me chills. You just gave me chills because listen, people. If you do believe in God or you don't, but listen to Genesis one twenty nine, really with an open mind just for a second. Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth and every tree with seed in its fruit. Ye shall have them for food.
• 35:46
  Now yet, in our modern society, Seth, you go down and buy an apple at the local grocery store and it has no seeds. It's GMO. The watermelon has no seeds. You got seedless watermelon, seedless apples, seedless grapes. And they tell you on Google, if you eat the seed that God talks about in Genesis one twenty nine, you're going to die of cyanide poisoning.
• 36:06
  We don't have a case. Seth, I'm sorry. I talked about Doctor. Scott Stoll earlier. We don't have a case of anybody dying of cyanide poisoning of eating too many apricot seeds.
• 36:17
  We don't have one. But yet that is the persuasive story told out there. Don't eat those apricot seeds. You'll die of cyanide poisoning. We have all the documents, all the records we can find, and we can't find a legitimate case of that happening.
• 36:29
  Can we find someone that gets upset stomach from eating too many and thinks they're getting poisoned? Yes, we can find that. They get rushed to the emergency room, they do blood tests and never have an elevated level of cyanide because you don't understand basic biochemistry according to Doctor. Dean Burke, if you believe that amygdalin can give you cyanide poisoning.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: So here's I'm gonna show just two comparisons here, because I love doing this. So here's an FDA warning about the toxic amygdalin found in aprocosis. This is May 2024. And it's you know, they've they've released, this warning after doing a study of these apricot seeds. Okay.
• 37:07
  Right? FDA. Now I don't trust everything the FDA puts out. They say a lot of things are safe and effective that have been proven not not be safe and effective. But, you know, I'm not gonna go to some, you know, John Richardson's research library to, you know, try to disprove this.
• 37:22
  Let's go over to PubMed. Right? So here's a PubMed article that came out in 2018 that says amygdalin from apricot kernels induces apoptosis and causes cell cycle arrest in cancer cells. So it's like, okay. Well, hold on here.
• 37:39
  This is like 1984, where it's how many fingers, Winston, where, you know, that you have you have to hold two opposing ideas and and believe that both are true. So the FDA is saying, hey, stay away from this. It's cancerous or it's poisonous. Yeah. Here's a PubMed research from 2018 that says, background, amygdalin is a cyanogenic glycoside, which is described as a
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: natural What glycoside, which means a cyanide sugar. In basic words, it's a cyanide sugar. It's found in 1,200 different foods, but keep going.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, yep. Okay, so it is a cyanogenic glycoside, which is described as a naturally occurring anti cancer agent. It says that current review highlights apoptosis, which is cell death, inducing attributes of amygdalin towards different cancers and its potential application as an anti cancer agent in cancer therapy. So, now again, the conclusion here says the current review epitomizes published information and provides complete interpretations that all known cancer, anti cancer mechanisms of amygdalin, possibly possible role of naturally occurring amygdalin in fight against cancer, and mistaken belief about cyanide toxicity causing potential of amygdalin. So this is a published study on PubMed, which is, you know, you find the same studies on NIH under, you know, Fauci's NIH and everything, no longer anymore, I guess you could say.
• 39:11
  But they're saying the results, the data collected from already published articles revealed that apoptosis is a central process activated by amygdalin in cancer cells. It also suggested to stimulate apoptotic, aapoptotic, you know, whatever, process by up regulating expression of BAX, which is a certain protein, etc, etc. Says, Thus is proposed to enhance deceleration of cell cycle by blocking cell proliferation and growth. So, again, this is I mean, this is PubMed. This is not some obscure tinfoil hat research guy some guy in his basement doing some some studies.
• 39:48
  This is a very, very well respected medical journal. I'm not sure if you call it medical journal, but medical publication, saying that this does, it does work, right? And this is the proof. So Wow,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: absolutely. We actually have hundreds of them. I some that I was pulled up, but we have hundreds of them. Doctor. Orly, Richard Orly, who's a big researcher, writes textbooks, just recently did a whole synopsis of all the studies about amygdalin, including one in two thousand and five or six that said that amygdalin kills the coronavirus.
• 40:24
  Now this is not COVID-nineteen, which is the cold virus. And my dad said that for years. We also have Dean Burke that said that amygdalin can heal people with sickle cell anemia, and he said that in a 1972 letter to the Health and Human Services, and all of these other doctors, Doctor. Hans Neeper, who wiped out Ronald Reagan's C word with amygdalin and metabolic therapy said, Laotro extracted from apricot pits is one of the most powerful anticancer substances found. The Mandelo nitriles of which cyanide is a part are effective precisely because they reduce tumors without harming healthy cells.
• 41:09
  This therapy can be used for both prevention and treatment. Doctor. Hans Neeper, who healed on record Ronald Reagan's colon cancer and he survived another nineteen years. Most of your audience has never heard of Hans Kneeper. He also used it for cardiovascular disease.
• 41:25
  And on page 102, he says, Laotrole extracted from apricot pits is one of the most powerful anticancer substances I've ever found. This is not just some obscure thing. This has been proven over time. I could go on. June to Spain, who was an author with with she was with the FDA.
• 41:47
  She was a pharmacologist and toxicologist. Listen to what she said. She wrote the book, The Little Cyanide Cookbook. She said cyanide in the proper food forms, instead of being poisonous, is an essential component of normal body chemistry. Vitamin B12 contains cyanide in the form of cyanocobalamin.
• 42:04
  Vitamin B17, also known as Laetrol or amygdalin, gradually has been replaced in the menus of modern man by foods that have been sweetened, processed and refined. So she was with the FDA and wrote a book about it. And still we don't know about it when we go to our doctor. This amazing substance is released to cyanide at the cancer site, thus destroying cancer cells while nourishing non cancer tissue. Populations in the world that eat these vitamin rich foods simply do not get cancer.
• 42:38
  These are powerful statements by people that have been, that have are educated and university professors and MDs and the public now at large today are saying the same things. The quotes that are coming from doctors now. So it's time for us to break off the cover that we have that's been hiding us and just tell people. And that's really what you're seeing in me, Seth, is that this new invigoration to get this word out there because I don't want to see another sixteen hundred people die today. I don't want to see another relative of yours or another relative of mine that could be saved by just opening up their mind and just for lack of information, my people shall perish for lack of knowledge.
• 43:21
  And that should not happen anymore.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: And so, again, referencing some of the things that you just mentioned, it seems to me that it is, I'm not going say it's common knowledge, but I'd say that it has been said over and over and over again by highly respected doctors and oncologists and researchers that yes, this substance, amygdalin, is a very potent cancer killing agent. And yet, today, if you go to your you know, say you're going to Sloan Kettering, you're going to any of the main kind of cancer hospitals. And I went through this with my brother. I lost my brother when I was 30. I lost my brother who was 33.
• 44:02
  He had non Hodgkin's lymphoma. And never once did they mention this. He went through multiple rounds of chemo and radiation, which was unsuccessful. And so his tumor, you know, came back. And, never once did I hear anyone recommend this.
• 44:19
  And I was intimate, know, I was literally living at the hospital with him, because he needed full time care, there's lot of other complications with that. So if we know that this is a substance that has been proven to be highly successful in the past, that as far as I'm concerned, does not really have any negative consequences to it. Like, I saw what chemo did to him. I saw what radiation was doing. I mean, it was a nightmare.
• 44:46
  Why why are doctors not using this? Why is this not talked about in any of the mainstream kind of discussions of cancer? Let me ask you something. How much time do you spend every day clicking around online, searching, scrolling, juggling a dozen tabs? It eats up a lot of time.
• 45:05
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• 45:38
  All I get are fact checkers, official statements, the same tired conspiracy theory label. But when I ask Comet the same question, it actually pulls up the real documents, declassified government files, congressional reports, even weather control patents, hard facts, not filtered spin. So if you could use a good tool that gives you extra help with online tasks while also arming you with information to prove to your friends that you're not as crazy as they think you are, this could be a great solution. So you can try Perplexity's new AI browser comment by heading to pplx.ai/mia. And when you download it, you're also gonna get a free month of Rumble Premium.
• 46:14
  So that link is in the description below. Again, it's pplx.ai/mia. So take back your time and take back the truth online.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: The the the short and simple answer, deserves more than a certain simple answer, but the Flexner report in 1910, when the Rockefellers and the Carnegies paid for this huge report to be done that said that nothing that's snake oil salesman type medicines can be used anymore. Only things that can be used in medical schools and only training the doctors can get is things that have been proven in a lab, scientifically proven through double blind studies and all this other stuff. And so what does that mean? It costs millions of dollars to get your substance sent through that system. And then you need a profit motive at the end of it.
• 47:02
  And so it's just gotten worse and worse. I mean, I talked to a doctor two days ago that said a friend of his sold a chemotherapeutic agent that he had studied and patented for 15,000,000,000 with a B billion dollars. Now, if the person that invested that $15,000,000,000 in that chemotherapeutic agent, there's one called FU, there's all these other, they're all designed to kill the cancer before they kill you, but all of them have a profit motive and the patients that get it, it's 8,000 per course or 40,000 per course or a 100,000 for something. And so if there really is a cheap effective offer, I'm not gonna pay it. If I just invested $15,000,000,000 I'm gonna be making sure that all the senators and congressmen that can vote on bills about pharmaceuticals and liability and how much profit I can make.
• 47:55
  I'm gonna make sure that I've greased all those wheels. The amount of money that's spent. I don't wanna say every I'm not sitting here saying every doctor's evil. Matter of fact, I'm meeting doctors that would have hated me five years ago that now are accepting what I have to say and I'm emailing them back and forth and giving them the science. I'm just saying that the system is about profits.
• 48:16
  That's the number one thing. It's not about turnout because if it was about the doctor getting paid a million dollar bonus for making your brother still be alive today, Seth, I'm convinced your brother would still be alive today because I'm talking to MDs. They're telling me, John, I have one hundred percent results with non Hodgkin's lymphoma. And it breaks my heart. It breaks my heart to even say that to someone that's lost their brother when I know doctors that are MDs that have been doing it for twenty years, twenty five years, thirty years, and doing it right now in The United States that are having tremendous results with triple negative breast cancer or all sorts of breast cancer, colon cancers, all these things using natural metabolic therapies that the medical system, the current MIC, which I'm watching collapse, cannot support itself if these cheap effective treatments are true.
• 49:11
  And we know they're true, but they're never That side that only has one half of the menu is never going to go for It's counterintuitive, but we all know that money can be the root of all evil and money can guide us into make bad decisions. And trillion dollar industry will do a lot of things to stop a 1¢ seed from being consumed. And the biggest one, the biggest success they've had is telling people it's cyanide poisoning. And that's the biggest lie. Cause if it really was, I would be killing people every day.
• 49:48
  Cause we get people eating forty, fifty, a 100 apricot seeds a day. You build up to that so you don't create too much cell autophagy, which is meaning your body killing cancer and going to your digestive tract and making you upset, really sick to your stomach. You wanna build up to it, start low and build up. I regularly eat 48 cut seeds a day. And I hope everybody watching regularly eats two fifty milligrams of the middle of the day, whether you get it from me through Seth or whether you get it on your own, or whether you grow it in your own garden, I hope you eat two fifty milligrams of amygdala a day so that together we can wipe out cancer in my lifetime very quickly.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Well, as we're wrapping up here, this has been great. I've really enjoyed this discussion. I want to bring up your website, which is rncstore.com. I'll make sure that the link is in the description.
• 50:39
  And so there's, from my understanding, there's really two reasons why you would take the amygdalin, whether it's through the fresh, you know, apricot seeds, through the kinda seed meal, through the oil which is absorbed into your skin or through the b seventeen capsules, etcetera. One is that you think you might have some sort of growth or tumor and you want to help combat it. The other is that as a preventative, as you mentioned, that even children actually, I'm just thinking of, because I know I have some of this apricot seed oil, I'm thinking, Gosh, I should be rubbing that on the feet of my kids every night. As part of their nightly ritual, you know, we do magnesium sometimes and stuff like that. Let's just make it as part of their nightly ritual.
• 51:20
  We put a little a few drops on each of their feet and just rub it on their on their little feet. Great way, I'm sure, of getting into their system. And so for both of those reasons, I highly recommend and this is something this is one of the few you know, I do a lot of interviews, a lot of products. I've got a shelf full of products, and I take a lot of them. But this is one of the ones I'm consistently recommending to friends and family.
• 51:42
  I know my mom, for instance, she takes it every day. Like, religiously, she's got she's probably on a subscription by now, right, for the b seventeen capsules. So walk us through what you offer. I'll give a quick caveat. You know, you can go on Amazon and order organic apricot seeds.
• 51:59
  Great. You can. However, you've done a very good job of, I think, finding the sourcing the best, but also then encapsulating the the b seventeen to make it really easy to get that high dose of amygdalin. So when someone comes to your website, what do they do, and what are your recommendations for someone? Especially looking at you know, obviously, if someone has cancer, that's they should really find a doctor that's going to help them understand the specifics of B17 and kind of work out a protocol.
• 52:27
  But for someone who's just looking at it as more of a preventative part of their daily stack of things that they're taking, what you recommend?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Well, we up, we named it the prevention bundle because people always ask that and it's just the basic baseline, the three different things, the three different nutrients that my dad used in his protocol and recommended and doctors are recommending to this day at the Richardson protocol. There's doctors across the country doing the Richardson protocol is doing the B17, the pangamic acid, the B15, which is the oxygenator for the blood. Cancer hates oxygen, helps so your blood carry more oxygen and your tissue carry more oxygen. And then the pro enzymes, which are pancreatic enzymes. Why is pancreatic cancer so deadly?
• 53:13
  It's because your body stops producing pancreatic enzymes and the pancreatic enzymes are the enzymes you need to digest the outer coating of the cancer, the tumor. And that's basically, that's gonna get deleted off of many channels because I just said it that bluntly, but that's what it is. And so if you typically a person that has the C word has a lower amount of pancreatic enzymes being produced by their pancreas and a local doctor, that doesn't mean it's you got to die of pancreatic cancer because I just met about three months ago, four months ago, a guy named Reg, who was treated by Doctor. John Murphy right here in Arizona, who was told twelve weeks to live a pancreatic cancer, he's still alive today five and a half years later. And Doctor.
• 53:58
  Murphy had him read World Without Cancer and Late Trial Case History. So, roundabout story is that's the easiest way to do it. You can get it on prescription like you talked about. And it's just one a day as a prevention, taking a supplement, just like a supplement. We don't claim that it treats or cures any diseases.
• 54:18
  What we say is it's been proven through science to allow the body's immune system to fight off an improperly multiplying cell. And that's what you get that there.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: And how long does this last? This bundle?
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: That's a ninety day supply. So we recommend people get it every ninety days and you get a discount and use the SETH discount code and you also get a discount off that. So it's win win win. And it really is just the easiest way to do it. Again, lots of people say, I just want to go to seeds.
• 54:49
  Great. I eat the seeds every day. I eat 40 seeds a day and I take these supplements every day. But if you just want to do the seeds, you can can buy the seeds and then you wanna get up to between twelve and fifteen seeds a day. Each of the seeds contain twenty milligrams.
• 55:03
  So you wanna eat between, you start off with one or two and build your way up to twelve a day. Why is it important to get it every day? All water soluble vitamins are used up by your body's metabolism every day. If I told you, you can drink a glass of water, Seth, and never have to drink water again, you'd think I was crazy. Or you can eat an orange today and never again, or you could eat some protein and never have to do it again.
• 55:29
  This is a metabolic nutrient. So amygdala needs to be consumed every day. So if you want to get in your diet, it's consistency. Ladies and gentlemen, Ed Griffin tells me he just recommends three a day, that's only sixty milligrams. And he still doesn't know anybody that regulates three a day that's ever developed the C word.
• 55:47
  So if these giants of what we're talking about have said that let's just prevent it in the first place. Let's not wait till we get it. Why isn't it in our diet? Because we've GMO'd it out, we've cooked it out, we've processed it out. And it's not just B17, it's every nutrient is not in our food anymore.
• 56:07
  So unfortunately, unless we're eating food grown in our own garden organically, then that's the best. Unless we're doing that, we're getting food from a grocery store, from a multimillion dollar food company that just has profit over results. They don't really care if you live a long, healthy life. A matter of fact, it's more beneficial to them if you go into the medical system. There's more money to be made on you if you get into the medical system.
• 56:35
  So that's what I recommend to people. And if they want more information, something else has changed since last time I was on, we've moved kind of all of our information over to owwc.org for people can find information. It's operationworldwithoutcancer.org. We used to have the movies on our website. We used to have books and we still do have some of the books, but a lot of people have recommended it to us.
• 56:58
  Put the information out there where there's no seeds to buy or no products to buy, but this is kind of keeping everybody updated to what's going on, what we're doing to have a world without cancer, what you can do to help us get a world without cancer. There's all sorts of resources on there. We obviously take donations because we're trying to make a movie. Anybody that's a veteran of going to our site to get a lot of information, we've moved a lot of that information for free over to owc.org. And you can get the book there too.
• 57:30
  You can get World Without Cancer just by joining the email list, first and last name and email, and you get the book for free. So, if you want to support us and support Seth and support us all in getting this truth out there, you can get the products through RMC. Like you talked about, Some of them are sold on Amazon, but I don't buy for anything from Amazon. I support those that are doing the work. So I'm not downing Amazon, but I think they're not necessarily always in our best interest.
• 57:58
  So I recommend people just go to the website, use the discount code Seth, and get on a subscription basis and just protect yourself and your family. And don't be caught flat footed.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Exactly. So I'll put a direct link to this bundle in the show description. That way it's just easy for people. And again, you mentioned, yep, promo code Seth, s e t h. You'll get a discount on it.
• 58:24
  And I'm looking at it, doing a little bit of math. Mean, it's, you know, it's what, $35.40 bucks a month. I mean, it's, you know
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah. If you subscribe and you get your discounts less than a dollar a day. So it's like 30
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: There you go. Exactly. Exactly.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: People, I can't afford that. I hear people say, well, then stop, eating your cake and ice cream and sugar, which you got to get off of if you're battling something and just convert that a little bit to keeping yourself healthy or buy organic food. You either pay now or you pay later. And it's an average of a half $1,000,000, in cost if you develop a colon cancer in today's America. And you can live a long, healthy life without that if you just take care of yourself in the meantime.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Exactly. John, always a pleasure talking to you. I've got a lot of good takeaways from this. And so thank you again for doing what you're doing. I'm encouraged by the same thing that I'm seeing, which is just a lot more people asking questions they should be asking, which is good.
• 59:25
  It's about taking more control of our own health, our own future, and not just leaving it to the people that have the clipboard and the white coat. So again, I'll put all the links we talked about into the description of the show. And thank you again. I always appreciate having you on the show. Thank you.
• 59:41
  Yeah. It's it
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: was it was too long in between our last visit. So I I'm I'm looking forward to telling you some of the amazing things that that are happening right as we speak that your audience is going to want to hear. So God bless you, Seth. I love coming on your show and I really appreciate you.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you.