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- 0:03Speaker 1: It started just like any other Saturday night in the
- 0:06Speaker 1: eighties Arcades, Roller Rings, that familiar primetime TV glow, but
- 0:16Speaker 1: this time was different. This show was different, and as
- 0:21Speaker 1: the night went on and people.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Took notice, it quickly became something more. A spectacle ship
- 0:30Speaker 2: by obsession, not fame, not glory, something deeper, a drive
- 0:41Speaker 2: that never phrades, a calling they can't escape.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Everyone is bussing about.
- 0:50Speaker 4: This spectacle.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Tonight.
- 0:55Speaker 4: It's about a fight.
- 0:57Speaker 3: We are ready to get down and does a majorly.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Stacked because obsession is bigger than any one moment.
- 1:09Speaker 5: It's days.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Some called it legacy.
- 1:15Speaker 6: They call it Saturday.
- 1:17Speaker 4: Welcome, the Saturday Thanks Man of.
- 1:22Speaker 6: Hey.
- 1:22Speaker 7: This is w W E and E c W alumni
- 1:25Speaker 7: the Blue and you're listening to pc W.
- 1:30Speaker 3: Question is, oh, you want to talk?
- 1:40Speaker 4: I will give you if Joe like you have nevercovered
- 1:45Speaker 4: why because I can't.
- 1:47Speaker 5: What do you guys want to talk about?
- 2:01Speaker 3: In the color of red in the world it's a black.
- 2:04Speaker 4: And white either of world. Yeah, the cha.
- 2:30Speaker 6: What's that?
- 2:30Speaker 8: Big?
- 2:30Speaker 6: I'm mad?
- 2:32Speaker 8: Mad?
- 2:33Speaker 3: And I said, whoa why here?
- 2:37Speaker 9: You know?
- 2:38Speaker 4: Bad back one?
- 2:45Speaker 10: Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, churn of all ages,
- 2:55Speaker 10: Welcome back to another episode of pc W podcast Championship Wrestling.
- 2:59Speaker 6: I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
- 3:02Speaker 6: and we got a full fucking episode for you. We're
- 3:05Speaker 6: gonna be reviewing Saturday Night main event forty one forty
- 3:10Speaker 6: one holy shit. Uh, and then some other things. We
- 3:14Speaker 6: got to talk about the John Cena Tournament, some things
- 3:17Speaker 6: that are happening between then what's coming up? Uh, maybe
- 3:22Speaker 6: about the next episode, but you know what, let me
- 3:25Speaker 6: bring in my ghost. Oh, I want to do it
- 3:28Speaker 6: in this order because it's funnier. Yes, let's do it
- 3:31Speaker 6: in this order.
- 4:04Speaker 11: Do Oh, it's me, It's me, It's a g oy
- 4:09Speaker 11: l e and it's finally fall Northeast.
- 4:12Speaker 8: Huh.
- 4:13Speaker 6: Yeah, dude's getting chill out.
- 4:16Speaker 8: I love them.
- 4:17Speaker 6: I find myself when I listen to your theme music.
- 4:20Speaker 6: Now I'm doing the EO sky pointing to myself.
- 4:24Speaker 12: You know, uh, because because that's what I'm doing, you
- 4:28Speaker 12: just can't see it.
- 4:29Speaker 9: I know.
- 4:29Speaker 6: Yeah, right, because when Dres comes out, you know, we
- 4:31Speaker 6: can eat all over the place. I'm meeting over here,
- 4:33Speaker 6: meeting over there, and meeting everywhere. You know, my neighbors
- 4:35Speaker 6: can see me eating, you know, my my, my roommate
- 4:38Speaker 6: and see me eating. I gotta keep the eating down
- 4:40Speaker 6: to a middlem. But you I just have to point
- 4:43Speaker 6: to myself, you know, just point to myself. You know
- 4:46Speaker 6: what we just I was like, we need a fourth
- 4:50Speaker 6: man tonight. We need a fourth man because because because
- 4:54Speaker 6: we got a medical issue going on here, a little
- 4:57Speaker 6: almost almost rustle many a forty sque issue. But we're
- 5:02Speaker 6: gonna We're gonna bring them in and then we'll find
- 5:04Speaker 6: out what's uh, what's going on with dre Here we go.
- 5:12Speaker 3: My head, They accounts with me, They understand.
- 5:16Speaker 13: Thanks to me, you got JIP all designed to keep you.
- 5:35Speaker 6: Tyler Foster, welcome back to the show.
- 5:40Speaker 9: Thank you very much, thank you for having me. How
- 5:41Speaker 9: you doing, good man.
- 5:43Speaker 6: The last time you're on was episode ninety five, So
- 5:46Speaker 6: not that long ago.
- 5:48Speaker 9: Not too long ago, but it feels like it was
- 5:50Speaker 9: a long time ago.
- 5:51Speaker 6: I know how far the episodes are spread out, how
- 5:55Speaker 6: long the episodes are, Yeah, it does. It feels like
- 5:59Speaker 6: such a long time time ago. But when you just
- 6:01Speaker 6: look at the sheets, it's like that there's only like
- 6:02Speaker 6: five episodes ago. You know, some people who release multiple
- 6:05Speaker 6: episodes in a week, who are insane, you know, they're
- 6:09Speaker 6: like on at episode like three four thousand already Jesus.
- 6:14Speaker 9: All right, get them up.
- 6:17Speaker 6: Yeah, last, but not least the raspy man himself. I
- 6:23Speaker 6: wonder if he'll be eating. We'll see.
- 6:27Speaker 14: Oh so.
- 6:32Speaker 3: It might have been telling you don't tell me, it's
- 6:36Speaker 3: just me.
- 6:37Speaker 4: Okay, it's just me, just me, okay, lot of a
- 6:46Speaker 4: lot of dead black.
- 6:49Speaker 3: It's on me.
- 6:50Speaker 5: Nows I an get them all.
- 6:55Speaker 15: I want to get them all.
- 7:00Speaker 6: Oh yeah, what's that?
- 7:07Speaker 3: Boose yo yo? What a do PCW crew made? Evente
- 7:13Speaker 3: ra Uso was barely on your podcast today?
- 7:18Speaker 16: Man, I was like, Vince does ah, yeah, he's getting
- 7:24Speaker 16: that Vince voice, like old Vince voice, like Vince today
- 7:29Speaker 16: voice for talk.
- 7:31Speaker 6: Yeah right, I did not poop on that woman Rox.
- 7:40Speaker 6: Oh man, you know what, I'm very surprised. Oh go ahead, No, I.
- 7:47Speaker 9: Was gonna say it was that does that a real thing?
- 7:49Speaker 2: Like?
- 7:49Speaker 9: What the heck?
- 7:50Speaker 6: Apparent? I I believe it, But it's Netflix never you know,
- 7:55Speaker 6: when they did that documentary, they never brought it up
- 7:57Speaker 6: because I don't think they were there yet. Like I
- 7:59Speaker 6: think that commentary came out as we were finding out stuff,
- 8:03Speaker 6: like we were still finding out ship. Literally no pun intended.
- 8:07Speaker 8: Yea.
- 8:10Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, I'm very surprised of all the episodes
- 8:14Speaker 6: that Dre has had the jay usso, you know, entrance,
- 8:19Speaker 6: not once out of respect, I think. Has Dre ever
- 8:23Speaker 6: asked me to run it back?
- 8:26Speaker 8: Oh? Thank god?
- 8:29Speaker 11: In fairness to drag, he's never once been winded after
- 8:32Speaker 11: his own entrance from either he.
- 8:33Speaker 6: Sounds it, there's that Oh my god. Hey, how about
- 8:39Speaker 6: when steam Punk is that we had him run it back?
- 8:42Speaker 6: I thought that ship was funny.
- 8:45Speaker 8: He doesn't have Ultimate Warrior.
- 8:47Speaker 11: I was actually speaking of Phil and his theme song.
- 8:51Speaker 11: I actually had the opportunity to be in the presence
- 8:54Speaker 11: of the great Uh. Corey Glover, of course, is not
- 8:59Speaker 11: in Living Color of Living Color Color or something.
- 9:02Speaker 8: Hello. Uh he was doing Uh.
- 9:05Speaker 11: There's some fucking hippie band playing at one of my venues,
- 9:08Speaker 11: and all of a sudden, I was like that.
- 9:12Speaker 8: So he's ticking some songs in some fing hippie band
- 9:15Speaker 8: this weekend. So it's turning that little kid bit in
- 9:18Speaker 8: there for you. Anyone.
- 9:20Speaker 12: I'm interested in where I was on Friday?
- 9:22Speaker 6: Anything? Oh yeah, yeah, we got keep tabs. What you
- 9:25Speaker 6: been up to you so we don't lose you again?
- 9:29Speaker 8: Yeah, I can get you gotta.
- 9:32Speaker 11: You gotta tie me to the radiator sometimes, man, we.
- 9:36Speaker 6: Gotta get you like, you know, even for I think
- 9:38Speaker 6: for Dre too, Like when you guys are sick like this,
- 9:41Speaker 6: we got to have like a soundboard just of of
- 9:44Speaker 6: some voice clipmans of you guys like like, oh, I
- 9:47Speaker 6: totally like it's a good idea.
- 9:53Speaker 11: That's a great point, way great point and handsome.
- 9:58Speaker 6: You can check me out in the discoord. You know.
- 10:02Speaker 6: That's it for this week. Yeah, dude, I just got
- 10:04Speaker 6: a whole sound board. Just fill you in, you know.
- 10:07Speaker 11: You know, I mean, if we we're going the way
- 10:11Speaker 11: the wrestling's going, we'll all be a I shoot anyway,
- 10:13Speaker 11: So what diff Oh man?
- 10:16Speaker 6: I'm hoping one day if this thing just records itself,
- 10:19Speaker 6: you know it's.
- 10:21Speaker 11: Oh man, just tell me what I would have said
- 10:23Speaker 11: if I had bought the Senate.
- 10:25Speaker 6: Yeah right. Uh Hey, Tyler, I'm gonna ask you a question. Yes,
- 10:30Speaker 6: you have to hire back one of these wrestlers. You
- 10:33Speaker 6: have to hire back either velveteen Dream or Matt Riddle.
- 10:42Speaker 9: Right back?
- 10:43Speaker 6: Whoa Doyle? Who you bring it back? Who you sign the.
- 10:53Speaker 8: Uh Riddle?
- 10:56Speaker 6: Like this?
- 10:58Speaker 11: I think I think He's the only person that has
- 11:00Speaker 11: any value whatsoever in twenty twenty five of those three.
- 11:06Speaker 3: Old velveteen or Rye back.
- 11:09Speaker 6: That that's a good one, right because I I yeah, toxic,
- 11:13Speaker 6: they're all in the they're not.
- 11:15Speaker 12: In their all toxic fu Well, yeah, that's true, I think, Riddle.
- 11:21Speaker 8: Maybe it's the least.
- 11:24Speaker 3: I don't know that man has been on a crash
- 11:26Speaker 3: and burn free as of late as Yeah, I don't.
- 11:32Speaker 3: There's no good choice in any of those, honestly, I know.
- 11:36Speaker 6: That's why I asked it. I was just fucking at work.
- 11:39Speaker 3: They are all terrible choices, you know what. You know
- 11:41Speaker 3: what choice? You know I'll go with I'll fucking bail
- 11:43Speaker 3: out Suddy and bring her back.
- 11:46Speaker 17: Damn wow, the choice between we have the choice between
- 11:51Speaker 17: prime character or like current condition.
- 11:54Speaker 3: No, no, no, old jail bird, fat ass Sonny.
- 11:57Speaker 6: No, I'm talking about these these guys too. Yeah, current
- 12:01Speaker 6: right now, like if you had to call them tomorrow
- 12:04Speaker 6: and tell them to come back now, I have I
- 12:10Speaker 6: have a female one all right now. Mm hmm, this
- 12:15Speaker 6: is a good one. Mercedes Monroe or Monet. I guess right,
- 12:20Speaker 6: Mercedes Monet, not Monroe. What am I thinking? Tony Storm
- 12:26Speaker 6: or page well who page soriah. I don't know.
- 12:36Speaker 11: That's that's for me, that's easy, that's that's that's that's
- 12:40Speaker 11: Mercedes all day. I don't I love I love I love,
- 12:47Speaker 11: I love Tony Storm.
- 12:48Speaker 8: I think I have made that abundantly clear.
- 12:51Speaker 11: But I don't think that that character happens on w
- 12:54Speaker 11: w E t v uh, which is why I wouldn't
- 12:57Speaker 11: take her, and I have just I don't need to
- 12:59Speaker 11: ever see paid again.
- 13:00Speaker 8: Sorry.
- 13:03Speaker 3: Yeah, I pretty much echo what Doyle said, Mercedes all
- 13:07Speaker 3: day without hesitation, she can still work in WWE. Tony
- 13:12Speaker 3: Storm's timeless character would not work in WWE. Yeah, they
- 13:18Speaker 3: would sign some way to fuck up, and I just
- 13:20Speaker 3: don't know that they would present it properly. They were
- 13:22Speaker 3: probably like, yeah, they may have her do some random
- 13:25Speaker 3: vignettes and they'll go to the black and white screen
- 13:28Speaker 3: machine comes out. But outside of that, I don't see
- 13:32Speaker 3: how the rest of it would work. So I don't
- 13:35Speaker 3: see it working in WWE. And Paige, I don't know
- 13:40Speaker 3: that she has much to offer in today's WWE other
- 13:44Speaker 3: than being a nostalgia act, and we've already got enough
- 13:47Speaker 3: of those going around right now.
- 13:52Speaker 6: Tyler.
- 13:55Speaker 17: So I'm so conflicted because I love all three of
- 13:59Speaker 17: them equally. Usually I'm usually wanting to break away from
- 14:06Speaker 17: her and to do my own thing. But I'm gonna
- 14:08Speaker 17: have to agree. Mercedes Monday love Page love Tony.
- 14:16Speaker 9: Uh, Mercedes, though she's you know, timeless, you know, she's.
- 14:23Speaker 17: A ready I I agree that that Tony's current character story,
- 14:32Speaker 17: what arc, whatever you want to call it, would not sell.
- 14:36Speaker 9: I think that's something that would quickly feel.
- 14:38Speaker 17: I think they tried doing that in w W at
- 14:40Speaker 17: one point with the vaudeville guys.
- 14:42Speaker 12: And it just.
- 14:46Speaker 8: Love that loved them.
- 14:49Speaker 12: I don't last long though, No, no it didn't.
- 14:56Speaker 17: So and then Page like, you know, like like it's
- 15:00Speaker 17: a it's a nostal jack at this point, you know,
- 15:03Speaker 17: and there's yeah.
- 15:04Speaker 11: So, I mean, if you bring Sasha Banks back to
- 15:07Speaker 11: you can do all that horse woman stuff they never
- 15:09Speaker 11: really did.
- 15:12Speaker 3: Here's the real question. Here's the real question. If they
- 15:17Speaker 3: were to bring back Sasha Banks or Mercedes Monday, whichever
- 15:20Speaker 3: they want to refer tor as, but would she come
- 15:25Speaker 3: back as a bigger deal now than she was previously
- 15:30Speaker 3: in w W I e. Cody Rhodes, or would she
- 15:35Speaker 3: come back as the same tier of star in w
- 15:39Speaker 3: W E as she was before.
- 15:41Speaker 6: I think, so, I think, do you think bigger? I?
- 15:45Speaker 6: I just think I don't know.
- 15:48Speaker 3: I I think she's a bigger deal now than she
- 15:50Speaker 3: was before.
- 15:52Speaker 6: Her head has gotten fucking huge since he's left. Like
- 15:55Speaker 6: she just thinks she's better than everybody, Like Jesus, I
- 15:58Speaker 6: don't know. I as a fan, I'm not on board.
- 16:01Speaker 6: Like she's winning all these fucking titles nobody cares about.
- 16:04Speaker 6: She's just won her thirteenth title or something like that.
- 16:10Speaker 3: Now, see that's a yeah, that's that's debatable because people say, like,
- 16:17Speaker 3: she's winning these titles that nobody cares about, except that
- 16:20Speaker 3: there are people who genuinely care about those titles. And
- 16:23Speaker 3: it's the people in those promotions said right, they've all
- 16:29Speaker 3: said that they see an increase in ticket sales when
- 16:32Speaker 3: she's there, Like when they promoted her as a being
- 16:36Speaker 3: on the card, they saw a spike in sales. So
- 16:39Speaker 3: that proves that she is a draw, especially for these
- 16:42Speaker 3: smaller promotions. And realistically, who else out there do you
- 16:45Speaker 3: see really doing that that's a star of her caliber
- 16:50Speaker 3: reaching down to these smaller territories to give them a boost,
- 16:53Speaker 3: to give them a bump. Yes, the trade off is
- 16:56Speaker 3: she gets to wear one of their belts. Cool, but
- 16:59Speaker 3: it's not like the the promotions not getting anything out
- 17:01Speaker 3: of it. It's not like she's just showing up like
- 17:03Speaker 3: all right, give me your belt.
- 17:04Speaker 11: By Yeah, every time she's on TV, their logo was
- 17:08Speaker 11: on TV and their belt.
- 17:10Speaker 3: You know, their belts on TV. She has that belt,
- 17:15Speaker 3: so sup. Presumably at some point she has to go
- 17:17Speaker 3: back and defend it. So again, that's a boost to
- 17:20Speaker 3: that promotion, and that's more than anybody else is doing.
- 17:24Speaker 18: Yeah, and they're all individually going to get get to
- 17:27Speaker 18: get their hometown home grown girl over by being by
- 17:32Speaker 18: bringing the belt home, by beating Mercedes Mona.
- 17:35Speaker 8: All going to have the benefit of that.
- 17:38Speaker 3: Right, she's taking her out and eventually the fall is
- 17:40Speaker 3: gonna come where. Yes, she's gonna start dropping those belts
- 17:42Speaker 3: left and right back to these people. I mean, I
- 17:46Speaker 3: feel like I feel like if if if a different
- 17:49Speaker 3: wrestler was doing this, people would be singing their praises
- 17:52Speaker 3: right like, if this was if this was something that
- 17:55Speaker 3: like Tony for example, say Tony Storm was doing, people
- 17:58Speaker 3: would be praising her like, oh my god, we should
- 18:00Speaker 3: do it for the other promotions. Yahd yah yahda. But
- 18:03Speaker 3: I think people still have negative feelings towards her, towards Mercedes,
- 18:08Speaker 3: over the way she left w W, and they're just
- 18:11Speaker 3: using this as more amble to pile on her. So
- 18:16Speaker 3: I think I think somebody hate. Yeah, I think some
- 18:18Speaker 3: of the hate that she gets is very much unjustified.
- 18:25Speaker 8: Yeah, I totally agree.
- 18:26Speaker 19: I mean, I've been a fan regardless, you know, But yeah,
- 18:32Speaker 19: I mean I totally agree with you that a different
- 18:35Speaker 19: talent would have a much warmer reception.
- 18:39Speaker 11: But you know, I think this is the kind of
- 18:40Speaker 11: thing you look back five years from now and look
- 18:42Speaker 11: at that and maybe you don't even really Maybe Joe
- 18:46Speaker 11: Blow doesn't really appreciate it until then, you know, would
- 18:49Speaker 11: the benefit of hindsight.
- 18:51Speaker 3: Right, Yeah? Yeah, maybe this will be something that towards
- 18:54Speaker 3: the end of her career people will look back on
- 18:56Speaker 3: to be like, Wow, look at this amazing thing that
- 18:58Speaker 3: she did that all y'all people were shipping on her for.
- 19:02Speaker 12: Real.
- 19:02Speaker 6: Quick. Let me from those promotions, these titles that she has,
- 19:09Speaker 6: and let me know how many of these you guys
- 19:10Speaker 6: know of I'm pretty sure the first one eight well,
- 19:14Speaker 6: you don't know about the ae W TBS Championship.
- 19:17Speaker 3: Well, the aw ones, yes, but the smaller promotion ones no,
- 19:20Speaker 3: we don't know of them.
- 19:22Speaker 8: All right.
- 19:22Speaker 6: We got the CMLL World Women's Championship, the Rev Pro
- 19:28Speaker 6: British and Queen of south Side Championship. That's a fucking mouthful,
- 19:35Speaker 6: w A Women's Championship, Chaotic Wrestling Women's Championship, Prime Time
- 19:42Speaker 6: Wrestling Women's Championship, Best yeah, best, Yeah, that's a real thing.
- 19:47Speaker 6: Best Yeah, Women's Championship, Uh, Discovery, Scultish Women's Championship, Body
- 19:55Speaker 6: Slam Women's Championship, AE w Owen Hart Cup Women's Winner, uh,
- 20:02Speaker 6: interm Our Ring of Honor, Women's World Television Championship, and
- 20:07Speaker 6: the Winnipeg Pro Wrestling Women's Championship. How about that other one?
- 20:12Speaker 6: Where is that other one? I was talking about the
- 20:13Speaker 6: Red Pro Undisputed British Women's and Queen of the south
- 20:16Speaker 6: Side Championship.
- 20:18Speaker 17: Damn, there's one nut on that list that I'm kind
- 20:24Speaker 17: of surprised you didn't say, Like, obviously she doesn't have
- 20:27Speaker 17: that title, but it would be the Wow the Women
- 20:31Speaker 17: of Wrestling.
- 20:32Speaker 8: Really, Oh what is that? I've seen that on TV
- 20:37Speaker 8: a few times. It looks god fucking awful and it
- 20:41Speaker 8: looks like that.
- 20:42Speaker 12: It looks like they're in a little play ring. Like
- 20:44Speaker 12: the ring only.
- 20:45Speaker 8: Looks like it's about eight feet by eight feet.
- 20:49Speaker 3: Yeah, ring does look small, as I think. The most
- 20:51Speaker 3: I know about it is I think it's partially owned
- 20:55Speaker 3: by Jeannie Buss, who owns the Lakers. Well who was
- 21:03Speaker 3: yeah whatever, but that's I'm pretty sure it's partially owned
- 21:08Speaker 3: by Jeanie Buss.
- 21:11Speaker 6: Surprised the National Alliance World Midget Championship isn't on there,
- 21:16Speaker 6: But you know that's just me Sasha bans Mercedes going
- 21:24Speaker 6: in there destroying midgets.
- 21:26Speaker 9: Just I mean, she's only a few inches taller than them,
- 21:32Speaker 9: isn't she?
- 21:32Speaker 6: I know, right, would she'd be like, uh yeah, she'd
- 21:35Speaker 6: be pretty dominant.
- 21:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 21:39Speaker 8: Beetlejuice one, oh.
- 21:42Speaker 6: Really yeah, I know horn Swoggle went there. They come
- 21:47Speaker 6: to me.
- 21:48Speaker 8: I have a polaroid of me and Beetlejuice.
- 21:51Speaker 6: No, ship, don't say his name again, man, we don't
- 21:53Speaker 6: need that guy around his name.
- 21:55Speaker 11: Three times, not that Beetlejuice.
- 22:02Speaker 9: No.
- 22:04Speaker 6: Yeah, oh man, yeah, you know what I do. Recall
- 22:08Speaker 6: I didn't watch watch a lot of w CW, but
- 22:10Speaker 6: I recalled Beatle Juice being on there and him and
- 22:13Speaker 6: Jeff Jared knocked the fuck out with the guitar. I
- 22:15Speaker 6: remember that classic classic beetle du What the fuck? Ah,
- 22:26Speaker 6: I'm gonna beat you down. I'm gonna take that red
- 22:28Speaker 6: pro undisputed British Women's of Queen of the south Side
- 22:31Speaker 6: Championship with me.
- 22:34Speaker 17: There's not an aronym for that, Like, there's no way
- 22:37Speaker 17: to shorten that up.
- 22:39Speaker 6: R U b W Q s C.
- 22:42Speaker 9: That's just as much of a mouthful. What the hell?
- 22:47Speaker 6: I would just say I have the women's title of
- 22:49Speaker 6: this division. That's something I would just say. It's a
- 22:53Speaker 6: little bit easier. Uh, all right, you know what.
- 22:59Speaker 11: Let by the way, I just posted with the picture
- 23:03Speaker 11: of me and Beetle Juice in the discord.
- 23:05Speaker 8: By the way, even more reasons out there.
- 23:09Speaker 11: If you're there getting the discord, you gets a picture
- 23:11Speaker 11: of me and beetle Juice.
- 23:14Speaker 8: My Beetlejuice.
- 23:19Speaker 9: Mm hmm looks hungover.
- 23:23Speaker 8: He was fucking wasted.
- 23:28Speaker 6: How did you tell? I just I thought that's how
- 23:30Speaker 6: he just looks all the time.
- 23:32Speaker 8: He smelled terrible. Oh my god, he was not pleasant
- 23:37Speaker 8: to be around.
- 23:38Speaker 6: He smelled terrible. Can you remember his musk like it's
- 23:42Speaker 6: just that bad.
- 23:43Speaker 12: It's like, yeah, this is this is like, this is
- 23:45Speaker 12: like around the turn of the century.
- 23:48Speaker 11: It's just like somewhere but somewhere between I don't know,
- 23:53Speaker 11: ninety nine two thousand and one is somewhere in there.
- 23:59Speaker 3: Somewhere around the time to cash money was taken over.
- 24:03Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 24:04Speaker 6: I want to put this conversation about Beetlejuice in our
- 24:07Speaker 6: show notes tonight.
- 24:09Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, all right, anyway, we should finally talk about
- 24:12Speaker 11: it something.
- 24:14Speaker 9: Yeah, three times nothing happened.
- 24:19Speaker 12: Did you guys ever seen the Beetle Juice musical?
- 24:21Speaker 8: It's terrible. Oh, the the other Beatlejuice.
- 24:26Speaker 3: Did I know that they had a musical?
- 24:27Speaker 6: No?
- 24:28Speaker 8: Oh, it's sucking awful.
- 24:31Speaker 6: Uh. I would like to bring it up John Cena's
- 24:37Speaker 6: retirement tournament. I'm going to play the audio here for us.
- 24:43Speaker 9: My last day.
- 24:45Speaker 7: I want to face whoever is willing to step up
- 24:48Speaker 7: and seize the same kind of opportunity I was given
- 24:52Speaker 7: on my first day. Therefore, starting a week from Monday
- 25:00Speaker 7: on Raw from my hometown in Boston, a sixteen man
- 25:05Speaker 7: tournament will commence. The field will be chosen at random,
- 25:10Speaker 7: filled with competitors from Raw, Smack Dad and xt and
- 25:17Speaker 7: maybe even some faces.
- 25:18Speaker 6: Who don't even work here.
- 25:21Speaker 7: There will be stars with whom I have a storied history,
- 25:25Speaker 7: but even more for a generation of talent I've never
- 25:29Speaker 7: gone one on one with in my life. By the
- 25:37Speaker 7: time we get to December thirteenth in Washington, DC for
- 25:42Speaker 7: our next Saturday Night's Great Events, my final opponent isn't
- 25:47Speaker 7: going to be hand picked.
- 25:49Speaker 6: It's going to.
- 25:50Speaker 7: Be hard turned to everyone seizing this opportunity. I say
- 25:57Speaker 7: good luck.
- 26:00Speaker 3: To the winner.
- 26:01Speaker 7: I saved the one final time.
- 26:04Speaker 3: You want some.
- 26:12Speaker 6: All right tournament, just like we said that it was coming,
- 26:17Speaker 6: you know, we heard rumors of it. I I hate
- 26:21Speaker 6: the Asonine way of how they're doing it the whole
- 26:24Speaker 6: like the balls and like the little basket and they're
- 26:28Speaker 6: spinning and they pull out like ohh.
- 26:30Speaker 12: And they show it to the other I love that ship.
- 26:33Speaker 12: I love that ship.
- 26:34Speaker 8: I wish they would do that for the rumble.
- 26:36Speaker 12: Still, those are some one I used to come and pick.
- 26:39Speaker 11: Their own numbers and they would like either be like
- 26:41Speaker 11: or the like.
- 26:43Speaker 8: That ship was golden.
- 26:44Speaker 6: That's just so so far. The first matches we have
- 26:48Speaker 6: announced is we have Damian priests uh facing Russive. I
- 26:55Speaker 6: believe and shamous is face seen. Uh, I'm a blank
- 27:04Speaker 6: hare ok, Penta Penta, So it is nice. We're gonna
- 27:12Speaker 6: be getting somebody who has history. Rusive has you know,
- 27:16Speaker 6: great history with Sina. Russ was undefeated when he when
- 27:19Speaker 6: he got on the main roster and became the United
- 27:21Speaker 6: States champion, rode into WrestleMania on a fucking tank, by
- 27:26Speaker 6: the way, which he banged his wife beforehand. Lana was
- 27:29Speaker 6: ex wife now.
- 27:32Speaker 11: But div Yeah, yeah, but I think they're back together though.
- 27:43Speaker 8: Almost positive.
- 27:45Speaker 3: She was again off again, but.
- 27:49Speaker 11: Turns well, it's fun because one of their well, while
- 27:53Speaker 11: they were off again, you know who she was on
- 27:55Speaker 11: again with, don't you Damian?
- 27:58Speaker 12: Yeah, correct, Amanda.
- 28:00Speaker 6: What weird that they put them in a match together.
- 28:05Speaker 6: It's only weird, It's only it's only yeah. But for
- 28:08Speaker 6: us people who uh, let me see here, us fucking
- 28:13Speaker 6: marks here, you know, we're like, oh damn, that's that's
- 28:17Speaker 6: kind of fucked up. Booking booking against the the other dude,
- 28:22Speaker 6: the other guy she told you not to worry about.
- 28:26Speaker 3: It's like, it's only it's only weird if they make it.
- 28:28Speaker 6: Weird, like they did with Leta and Matt Hardy and
- 28:32Speaker 6: Edge it's only weird.
- 28:35Speaker 3: They're gonna talk, they're not even gonna mention it all
- 28:37Speaker 3: TV considering that, Yeah, you know, uh C J. Perry
- 28:41Speaker 3: is not n W w ee, And I don't think
- 28:45Speaker 3: either one of them or Damian Preest is so petty
- 28:48Speaker 3: as that he would try to say something slick in
- 28:50Speaker 3: the middle of the match.
- 28:51Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, But but I hope that there is
- 28:57Speaker 6: a fan with a sign that says something.
- 29:04Speaker 8: A picture of Lana and Damien.
- 29:06Speaker 11: There's a million of a pole match.
- 29:12Speaker 3: It's something they'd have to make on site in the
- 29:14Speaker 3: arena because they hell, that's just getting in.
- 29:16Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, that's on a pole match.
- 29:19Speaker 3: You know, like they'd have to have like a blank
- 29:22Speaker 3: piece of cardboard and the picture folded up in their
- 29:24Speaker 3: pocket and at.
- 29:26Speaker 6: Yep, dude, I've been there. I've been there.
- 29:29Speaker 8: That's funny.
- 29:30Speaker 6: Yeah, I've had the blank side empty and I had
- 29:33Speaker 6: the big ass sharpie in my back pocket. I'm ready.
- 29:37Speaker 6: I have two posters glued together. We're not glued, but
- 29:40Speaker 6: taped together.
- 29:45Speaker 8: That's funny, all right.
- 29:46Speaker 6: So with this Shohn Ceda tournament.
- 29:52Speaker 12: The other matches is Seamus by the way, not.
- 29:58Speaker 8: Okay, which still be good.
- 30:01Speaker 6: Yeah, that. No, that would be That would be great.
- 30:05Speaker 6: You know, if at least we're gonna be, you know,
- 30:08Speaker 6: getting some pretty decent matches out of this, and you
- 30:12Speaker 6: know they're not for a title or something that they're
- 30:16Speaker 6: not over a few, it's you know, it's for a tournament.
- 30:18Speaker 6: That's what I do like about tournaments. We're not locked
- 30:22Speaker 6: into feuds. It's like one off matches, you know. So
- 30:25Speaker 6: we could get banger after banger. We could get, uh,
- 30:30Speaker 6: you know, a pretty fucking good match out of Damian
- 30:33Speaker 6: Priest and Russive. You know, you don't know. Uh, I'm
- 30:36Speaker 6: excited to see what's down the road. Excuse me, so
- 30:40Speaker 6: I I the rumor of Gunther being in this. I
- 30:45Speaker 6: want to see where he fits in, who he's gonna phase,
- 30:48Speaker 6: who he's gonna crush going down the line. Here. Now,
- 30:54Speaker 6: when he says wrestlers who don't even work here.
- 30:59Speaker 3: I they got everybody talking of speculating.
- 31:04Speaker 6: Now, listen, I'm assuming somebody like Joe Hendry, somebody from
- 31:09Speaker 6: t n A. Right, I'm not Matt Hardy or Jeff
- 31:13Speaker 6: Hardy even I'm not or even Dolph Ziggler. Right, I'm
- 31:17Speaker 6: not expecting you know, we're not going to get edge.
- 31:20Speaker 6: I'm sorry, you're not gonna get edged.
- 31:24Speaker 3: That what everybody's hoping for. That's that's the thing with
- 31:26Speaker 3: the line, everybody, what's what's expectation? Hope everybody's hoping for edge.
- 31:33Speaker 3: But the expectation when he says that, or the reality
- 31:36Speaker 3: when he says that it is probably going to be
- 31:38Speaker 3: TNA people.
- 31:40Speaker 11: All I could see a triple A person, I could
- 31:43Speaker 11: see my king go or or you know, maybe fucking Iguana.
- 31:47Speaker 11: I don't know anybody. Yeah, there's gonna be Yeah, there'll
- 31:52Speaker 11: be one tn A person and one triple A person
- 31:55Speaker 11: or two t and that'll be it. I mean, it's
- 31:57Speaker 11: not going to be like half the brack.
- 31:59Speaker 3: It would be cool most of them because he remember,
- 32:02Speaker 3: he also said that people he's never wrestled against before,
- 32:05Speaker 3: to which there's plenty of those. That's where you get
- 32:09Speaker 3: like a Carmelo Hayes or somebody in the tournament.
- 32:14Speaker 11: That was in the commercial. We'll be in the tournament,
- 32:17Speaker 11: right so, dom and I think Penta was in there.
- 32:23Speaker 11: I think all four of the people we uh have
- 32:25Speaker 11: been announceder in it. Uh so I gotta figure you
- 32:30Speaker 11: gotta figure there in who do you think from n
- 32:33Speaker 11: XT do you think gets in this thing?
- 32:36Speaker 12: Do you think it's a Javan Evans?
- 32:39Speaker 3: Yeah, the trick this tournament.
- 32:44Speaker 6: What do you think of Tyler? Who do you think
- 32:46Speaker 6: might show up? Uh?
- 32:51Speaker 17: Again, hope and expectation, as Drey said, but reality says.
- 32:58Speaker 9: Probably an n X T or A T n A
- 33:01Speaker 9: faces I don't know. Uh, there's such.
- 33:06Speaker 17: A an elite lineup, like when you start thinking of
- 33:09Speaker 17: anybody they could face him. As far as who I'd
- 33:15Speaker 17: like to personally see faced him, Pana, I think that
- 33:18Speaker 17: would be a great match. I think that would be
- 33:22Speaker 17: a really good match. Damian Priest.
- 33:27Speaker 6: Uh.
- 33:28Speaker 17: Shoot, Joe Hendry is tied up with the whole FIA thing,
- 33:32Speaker 17: so I don't know about that.
- 33:35Speaker 6: I don't know. I feel like, matter what feud you're
- 33:38Speaker 6: tied up in, I think those fee for the tournament, right.
- 33:44Speaker 3: I would be in this tournament?
- 33:47Speaker 8: Yeah? Absolutely, mhm.
- 33:53Speaker 20: H.
- 33:55Speaker 8: I bet he's in the match and he loses.
- 33:57Speaker 3: And then he can go back to whatever you know exactly,
- 34:00Speaker 3: you know anybody, right, he's there for the pop mm hmm.
- 34:03Speaker 8: Yeah. I wouldn't get all worried about it. They've got
- 34:05Speaker 8: this storyline going then they can't deviate.
- 34:07Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, true, very true, which when you say his name,
- 34:12Speaker 17: he does get a pretty good pop.
- 34:14Speaker 3: And just imagine if it's like the last match of
- 34:22Speaker 3: the tournament and it's you know, all right, the we
- 34:25Speaker 3: got you know, all the other fourteen people, so it's
- 34:27Speaker 3: down to the final two people of the opening round
- 34:29Speaker 3: and you get that pop that music of Joe Hendry
- 34:33Speaker 3: music hits. That's gonna get a huge pop. But then
- 34:37Speaker 3: imagine that it's followed up by Edge.
- 34:40Speaker 11: Yeah, right, Well, that's that's kind of the problem with
- 34:44Speaker 11: some of these things, right, You've got to figure out
- 34:46Speaker 11: who's not gonna get buried because they're not Edge or
- 34:49Speaker 11: they're not Fatista, right.
- 34:54Speaker 3: I mean some I think depending on how the matches
- 34:58Speaker 3: are played out, I think some of these we're gonna
- 35:00Speaker 3: be pretty obvious. You can tell. Like, for example, we
- 35:03Speaker 3: got uh, Seamus versus shens Kate Knackamora. I think it's
- 35:07Speaker 3: pretty obvious that Seamus is gonna win that match because
- 35:11Speaker 3: Seamus has more history with John Cena than Shenskate Knockamora.
- 35:14Speaker 6: Does.
- 35:15Speaker 3: We got Damien Pries first, Yeah, Damien Price versus Russef
- 35:20Speaker 3: that one's a little bit more up in the air
- 35:22Speaker 3: because Russef has the history, but I think Damian Priest
- 35:26Speaker 3: is the more compelling, compelling potential opponent for John Cena
- 35:32Speaker 3: is Damian Priest. Plus there's the fact that Damian Priest
- 35:36Speaker 3: kind of needs a W. He'd been taking some l's
- 35:40Speaker 3: a lot lately, so this is kind of a way
- 35:41Speaker 3: to give him a free W without it being too consequential. So,
- 35:47Speaker 3: but I think this one is a bit more up
- 35:49Speaker 3: in the air. So some of the matches I think
- 35:50Speaker 3: will be up in the air as far as he's
- 35:52Speaker 3: gonna win. Some of them I think will be pretty obvious.
- 35:57Speaker 3: Like if AJ Styles is in this tournament, almost guarantee
- 36:00Speaker 3: he's gonna win his first round match with somebody, depends
- 36:05Speaker 3: who against at least the first round. Yeah, unless they
- 36:08Speaker 3: did something like put AJ Styles versus Carmelo Hayes in
- 36:11Speaker 3: the first round, then I think it might be up
- 36:14Speaker 3: in the air. God, I can see Carmelo Hayes getting
- 36:16Speaker 3: an upset on AJ because it feels the whole narrative
- 36:21Speaker 3: of you know, somebody he's never faced before.
- 36:23Speaker 9: Yeah, very good point.
- 36:26Speaker 6: We're not getting you know, we're not gonna be getting Edge.
- 36:30Speaker 6: We're not gonna be getting Chris Jericho. You know, we're
- 36:33Speaker 6: not we're going to be getting guys directly from Aw's
- 36:37Speaker 6: but especially, like like Doya said, with a tournament, it's
- 36:41Speaker 6: so hard to make surprises. And even for like you know,
- 36:45Speaker 6: for Edge, you would want a one off match, You
- 36:46Speaker 6: wouldn't want to see Edge wrestle. Would you want to
- 36:51Speaker 6: see him wrestle in the actual tournament and then Sina
- 36:54Speaker 6: or did you rather just see that one off match?
- 36:56Speaker 3: So I mean that's the problem, But that's the problem
- 37:01Speaker 3: with the tournament format. Yes, that if you put Edge
- 37:03Speaker 3: in it, he's immediately becomes the one that everybody wants
- 37:06Speaker 3: to see. It almost kind of ruins the whole tournament
- 37:09Speaker 3: because everybody's like, if Edge don't win, we're rioting.
- 37:12Speaker 6: Yes exactly. The shock appeals there for what the off
- 37:16Speaker 6: couple of minutes that he makes that first entrance, because like,
- 37:18Speaker 6: all right, we'll see you next week. That's not the same,
- 37:22Speaker 6: but I still hope.
- 37:26Speaker 3: But maybe they Then it depends. But you can also
- 37:29Speaker 3: say it depends on who's on the other side, because
- 37:31Speaker 3: if it if it ultimately leads to Edge versus somebody
- 37:34Speaker 3: else significant in the final match to face John Cena,
- 37:39Speaker 3: then you still have something you can kind of build
- 37:41Speaker 3: up to mm hmm.
- 37:43Speaker 17: But then with that, with that match, then upset whoever
- 37:46Speaker 17: becomes his final opponent.
- 37:49Speaker 3: Not necessarily, not necessarily, I think it would depend on
- 37:54Speaker 3: who's on the opposite side, Like who would be who
- 37:59Speaker 3: would be the opponent that edge, that a potential edge
- 38:01Speaker 3: would face in the finals to face John Cena. You know,
- 38:05Speaker 3: if it's like an Edge versus Chris Jericho. Yeah, the
- 38:07Speaker 3: match yourself will probably suck because Jerich King Russell worth
- 38:10Speaker 3: of ship no more. But from a marketing standpoint, it'd
- 38:14Speaker 3: be some pretty hyped up because you got two legends
- 38:16Speaker 3: competing for it. Even if it's a or if you
- 38:19Speaker 3: have you know, right versus Gunter would be huge.
- 38:31Speaker 17: I still don't know how I feel about Gunter, but
- 38:34Speaker 17: that's for a different conversation.
- 38:40Speaker 3: But I mean as far as names that he's never
- 38:41Speaker 3: faced before, that's probably the biggest one.
- 38:45Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely.
- 38:46Speaker 6: Now I want to also kick these ideas that rumors
- 38:50Speaker 6: I've been hearing. I I like the the one rumor.
- 38:54Speaker 6: I don't like the other one I'm hearing. The one
- 38:57Speaker 6: rumor is that we try to figure out out how
- 39:00Speaker 6: we can get Dirty Dom and John Cena together for
- 39:05Speaker 6: Survivor Series and taking that Icy title off of him,
- 39:08Speaker 6: making John Cena finally a Grand Slam champion. That's the
- 39:14Speaker 6: I do like that one well because if we get
- 39:17Speaker 6: we discussed this before, if we get Gunther in the finals,
- 39:21Speaker 6: and we get Gunthro versus Sena, then we had that
- 39:23Speaker 6: Icy title, which holds a lot of prestige. To Goo,
- 39:25Speaker 6: there a lot of meaning to going through that means
- 39:28Speaker 6: a lot to him. Enter to beat John Cena and
- 39:31Speaker 6: get that Icy title back would immediately put prestige back
- 39:35Speaker 6: on that fucking title. I mean not saying it doesn't.
- 39:37Speaker 12: Have any It feels like it feels like two steps
- 39:40Speaker 12: back to me. I know, I get it, but I
- 39:44Speaker 12: think it's I think the thing I pitched months ago.
- 39:46Speaker 11: I think it's gonna happen, and I think it's pretty
- 39:48Speaker 11: clear it's gonna happen. Is is Dom Ray too in
- 39:51Speaker 11: San Diego Exactly?
- 39:54Speaker 6: I thought that too after this.
- 39:56Speaker 11: I hope, I hope that's for the Mega Championship. That
- 39:58Speaker 11: would be cool because Rays and we held that it
- 40:01Speaker 11: might be a fun way to transition it back to
- 40:03Speaker 11: that company.
- 40:04Speaker 8: You know, Ray can then.
- 40:05Speaker 11: Lose to Mike Kingo, I think, or somebody who is
- 40:08Speaker 11: now a heel anyway.
- 40:10Speaker 12: Uh, and I don't know that Ray and the KINGO
- 40:12Speaker 12: have ever wrestled.
- 40:12Speaker 8: That would be fucking so much fun.
- 40:16Speaker 12: But anyway, I.
- 40:20Speaker 6: Mean that's the rumor that I'm hearing. That's the one
- 40:22Speaker 6: that I like. The one I don't like, which I
- 40:26Speaker 6: think is again rumor absolute bs. I think let's get
- 40:31Speaker 6: John Cena one more world title? Run?
- 40:34Speaker 9: What what? He already set the record?
- 40:38Speaker 6: So yeah, he already set the record. The bars already
- 40:41Speaker 6: even set. Why would you need to, if anything, go
- 40:43Speaker 6: go get that Grand Slam Championship?
- 40:46Speaker 9: You know, like that that would be the one that
- 40:49Speaker 9: makes more sense?
- 40:50Speaker 6: Does it makes if you're going to try to squeeze
- 40:53Speaker 6: one more title in on John Cena, you do it
- 40:56Speaker 6: for the IC, you don't do another one.
- 40:58Speaker 11: It's not even it's not even really clear if there
- 41:02Speaker 11: are more than just a one match yet. You know,
- 41:06Speaker 11: I think he has three appearances, right, but it's it's
- 41:09Speaker 11: not even clear if there's three matches.
- 41:12Speaker 8: If there's two appearances and one match.
- 41:15Speaker 3: Right, he's got four appearances left, one confirmed yeah, uh
- 41:21Speaker 3: Raw Boston Raw MSG Series and Saturday right, and one
- 41:28Speaker 3: confirmed match which is Saturday Night made event. People assume
- 41:32Speaker 3: that there's going to be a match with him at
- 41:33Speaker 3: Survivor Series, but obviously that's still TVD. And I'm of
- 41:37Speaker 3: the mindset that no, John Cena does not need to
- 41:40Speaker 3: have any more belts on him. We're at the end.
- 41:43Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense to just throw a belt
- 41:46Speaker 3: on him just for the sake of it, just to
- 41:48Speaker 3: have him lose it in his very next match. That's
- 41:52Speaker 3: that's pointless. That's meaningless. It does it doesn't. It's not
- 41:55Speaker 3: gonna do anything for his legacy. It doesn't enhance it
- 41:57Speaker 3: at all. Him having this and slamm thing because he
- 42:00Speaker 3: was an icy champion. It's meaningless to somebody of the
- 42:04Speaker 3: magnitude of John Cena. It's meaningless. He doesn't need any
- 42:07Speaker 3: of that. I think that's a waste of It's a
- 42:11Speaker 3: waste of the belt. It's the waste of a title
- 42:12Speaker 3: run to do either one of those.
- 42:16Speaker 17: Didn't they kind of do that with Jay, you say, though,
- 42:18Speaker 17: like if you think about it, like his his his
- 42:21Speaker 17: run was a little bit longer, but I mean he
- 42:23Speaker 17: only held it for like weeks.
- 42:25Speaker 3: I don't know which one or his world title run run,
- 42:31Speaker 3: but but he's an active wrestler. That's on the roster.
- 42:34Speaker 3: That was them capitalizing on his popularity. However it was
- 42:38Speaker 3: booked or whatever afterwards is you know, obviously to be discussed.
- 42:42Speaker 3: But it's not somebody who's on their way out the door,
- 42:45Speaker 3: who's just literally one of his last who's gonna have
- 42:48Speaker 3: his last two matches be winning a belt and then
- 42:50Speaker 3: losing a belt just to say he had it.
- 42:56Speaker 9: H third point, Yeah, third point.
- 43:03Speaker 11: Well, it's just I think the rumors are gun through,
- 43:09Speaker 11: and I think it's gonna be gun through.
- 43:10Speaker 21: I mean, he can say he uh retired seeing that
- 43:13Speaker 21: and uh Goldberg in the same calendar year, you can
- 43:17Speaker 21: have him retire a j Styles next year, you know,
- 43:20Speaker 21: you can give him a fucking.
- 43:24Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, that would be a set up for
- 43:29Speaker 3: his presumed match with Lesnar at WrestleMania next year too.
- 43:35Speaker 3: So if he retired to Legends and now Lesner steps up,
- 43:38Speaker 3: is the next one to potentially be retired by Gunter.
- 43:43Speaker 8: Yeah, that'd be great.
- 43:44Speaker 11: That'd be a great way to build the guns to
- 43:45Speaker 11: back up is a fucking badass again.
- 43:48Speaker 6: Well, you guys, remember he already did to Goldberg, so
- 43:53Speaker 6: tech Brockles then.
- 43:56Speaker 3: Yeah, But the only thing about that is I don't
- 43:58Speaker 3: know how much credit he can claim for retiring quote
- 44:02Speaker 3: unquote John Cena when it's already established that that's his
- 44:05Speaker 3: last match. You could just say you beat him in
- 44:07Speaker 3: his last match. But I don't know if you can
- 44:10Speaker 3: really walk around saying I retired John Cena, likeiring.
- 44:15Speaker 6: Regardless, but Baron corbin Ate that ship up after he
- 44:20Speaker 6: retired Kurt Angle. We all knew that was for wrestling.
- 44:24Speaker 8: Of course he's going to do that.
- 44:27Speaker 17: I mean, then the same thing could be said for
- 44:28Speaker 17: the for his Goldberg match, Like if it was known
- 44:31Speaker 17: that was going to be Bill Bill's last match, So
- 44:35Speaker 17: does she really get the credit for retiring him exactly?
- 44:38Speaker 3: That's my point. I don't know if he gets credit
- 44:40Speaker 3: for retiring these guys when he's just facing them in
- 44:42Speaker 3: their last match. Now, there's there's still a way you
- 44:45Speaker 3: can try to spin it. I just don't know that
- 44:47Speaker 3: he can claim that, you know, I retired these guys.
- 44:51Speaker 3: He could say, you know, I faced I beat Goldberg
- 44:53Speaker 3: in his last match, I beat Johnsena in his last match,
- 44:57Speaker 3: and when I beat you, this will be your last match,
- 44:59Speaker 3: or how where he wants to play it. There's a
- 45:01Speaker 3: way to.
- 45:02Speaker 17: Do it, But yeah, saying you're retired him though, that's
- 45:06Speaker 17: bys I don't.
- 45:07Speaker 8: Yeah, say whatever they want.
- 45:10Speaker 9: That's also a good point.
- 45:12Speaker 11: Yes, it's a fucking word.
- 45:26Speaker 6: All right, guys. Anything else you guys want to talk
- 45:30Speaker 6: about before I move? Oh? You know what?
- 45:31Speaker 8: I do?
- 45:32Speaker 6: Want to talk about something? We're gonna hit that bracket up?
- 45:37Speaker 6: Oh my god, no, no, I don't have to put
- 45:39Speaker 6: my opinion in on this one. Now that we got
- 45:40Speaker 6: Tyler here, Tyler can break the time. Yeah, that's right,
- 45:44Speaker 6: That's that's fucking right.
- 45:47Speaker 9: All right, we're gonna do March Madness style brackets. What
- 45:51Speaker 9: are you talking about?
- 45:52Speaker 6: What's up?
- 45:54Speaker 9: So we're gonna do March Madness style brackets? Is that
- 45:56Speaker 9: what you're thinking?
- 45:58Speaker 6: Something? It's something? All right, it's two pages. I'm just
- 46:04Speaker 6: like picking and choosing which ones I want to do.
- 46:08Speaker 6: Uh okay, okay. Now you could say, I guess you
- 46:17Speaker 6: could call him now John Moxley, you know well, or
- 46:21Speaker 6: Dean Ambrose, but him in his prime, whatever it is best?
- 46:27Speaker 6: Do you think it's maybe now? Maybe when he was
- 46:29Speaker 6: part of the shield, where however you envision him versus mcfoley.
- 46:36Speaker 6: Now is it mcfoley? Is it Cactus Jack?
- 46:38Speaker 8: Do love it?
- 46:39Speaker 6: Doesn't matter in your mind, where do you see mcfoley
- 46:43Speaker 6: in his best against this? To me, my opinion is
- 46:47Speaker 6: I would see him as Cactus Jack versus John Moxley.
- 46:51Speaker 6: That's how I would picture that this match, this fantasy
- 46:54Speaker 6: match is going up against a very classic fane match
- 47:00Speaker 6: that people bring up a lot, and there's a couple
- 47:02Speaker 6: of these, and this is one of them. Big Show
- 47:05Speaker 6: versus Andre the Giant a very common fantasy matchup. I'm
- 47:11Speaker 6: sure we've done it in video games. The two biggest
- 47:15Speaker 6: giants that we knew from our eras and and from
- 47:18Speaker 6: the generation before. You know, Andre the Giant. You could
- 47:23Speaker 6: even I don't know when you could pick his peak,
- 47:27Speaker 6: you know, early WrestleMania days, I guess before his hips
- 47:30Speaker 6: and back and knees started to come out on them
- 47:33Speaker 6: and Big Show like you know, when when do you
- 47:35Speaker 6: feel like Big Show was prime?
- 47:38Speaker 12: Like?
- 47:38Speaker 6: When when do you feel like he was on a roll?
- 47:43Speaker 6: There would be a great threat to Andre. Let's start
- 47:49Speaker 6: with Dre. Who do you have the Dean Ambrose versus
- 47:55Speaker 6: Mick or Big Show versus Andre the Giant? What would
- 47:58Speaker 6: you rather see more of?
- 48:01Speaker 3: Give me Cagnus Jack versus John Moxley Granted, John's Moxley
- 48:05Speaker 3: doesn't really move the needle for me that much in
- 48:08Speaker 3: aw with his absurd hardcore wrestling style where it's just
- 48:14Speaker 3: doing hardcore stuff for the sake of hardcore. I would
- 48:20Speaker 3: still take that over Big Show versus Andre, because, let's
- 48:24Speaker 3: be honest, Big Show vers Andre would be an absolutely
- 48:27Speaker 3: terrible match, just those two big lugs just wailing on
- 48:34Speaker 3: each other. Big Show was far and his prime was
- 48:37Speaker 3: far more athletic than Andre ever was, and that would
- 48:42Speaker 3: just be a terrible match. Let's just be real. It's
- 48:47Speaker 3: a it's a gimmick versus gimmick type thing that sounds
- 48:50Speaker 3: good on paper, but in actuality would be a horrible
- 48:53Speaker 3: match in the ring. At least make Show vers I mean,
- 48:57Speaker 3: at least Cagnus Jack versus John Moxley, catchus jacket, beat
- 49:01Speaker 3: the living dog shit out of John Boxley and do
- 49:03Speaker 3: all the insane hardcore stuff he could imagine to him,
- 49:06Speaker 3: and we would get a I guess you could say,
- 49:09Speaker 3: a hardcore classic match for the ages. So I'll take
- 49:12Speaker 3: that over anything that Big Show when Andrea the Giant
- 49:16Speaker 3: could give.
- 49:16Speaker 6: Us h Doyle, what are your thoughts?
- 49:25Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I would totally agree with Dre on this.
- 49:27Speaker 11: I think I like Dean Ambrose slash Moxley more than
- 49:32Speaker 11: he does. But yeah, I mean I think that even
- 49:36Speaker 11: a prime big show and or a probably prime big
- 49:39Speaker 11: show would be the giant versus the Prime Andre, which
- 49:44Speaker 11: still the fit, you know, two big slow, you know,
- 49:49Speaker 11: a lot of a lot of rest hole, a lot
- 49:52Speaker 11: of clubbing in the back. You know, I just don't
- 49:55Speaker 11: see much fun there, Whereas I think that fucking a
- 50:01Speaker 11: Prime Foley versus Prime Ambrose.
- 50:04Speaker 8: Is exactly the kind of shit I like.
- 50:06Speaker 11: You know, uh and seeing whenever that Max would have
- 50:11Speaker 11: you know, some huge, ridiculous we will talk about it
- 50:14Speaker 11: for the rest of the time kind of bump in it.
- 50:16Speaker 11: And I would be very curious to see what that
- 50:19Speaker 11: would be.
- 50:20Speaker 3: Uh.
- 50:21Speaker 11: So, Yeah, that's two for for old Cactus and Gan Ambrose.
- 50:26Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing I guarantee you Catus Jack versus Dane
- 50:29Speaker 3: Ambrose would give you is a fun ton of barbed wire.
- 50:34Speaker 8: Yes, And in text Tyler.
- 50:38Speaker 6: I mean, let's hear your thoughts anyway. Let's see you're
- 50:41Speaker 6: going against the grain. You're with us with the John.
- 50:45Speaker 9: Moxley sweeping aboard.
- 50:49Speaker 17: Uh yeah, McK foley and and and John Moxley, maybe
- 50:55Speaker 17: not John Moxley like current, you know, I mean just
- 50:57Speaker 17: maybe just a little bit you know, earlier on and
- 51:02Speaker 17: and Mick Foley in his prime would be an absolutely,
- 51:05Speaker 17: I I think terrific match, like what like you said,
- 51:09Speaker 17: one for the ages, one that you know, thirty years.
- 51:13Speaker 9: From now, we're like remember that match and you know
- 51:15Speaker 9: you just that was that was pretty gruesome.
- 51:18Speaker 17: You know, all the stops that they would be willing
- 51:20Speaker 17: to pull out on each other to try and get
- 51:22Speaker 17: the w would just be you know, because they both
- 51:25Speaker 17: don't have they don't have that uh that quick mentality. Well,
- 51:29Speaker 17: I mean Moxley does because he had to quit. But anyway, Yeah.
- 51:35Speaker 6: I can see some handcuffs, bring back chair shots to
- 51:38Speaker 6: the head. You know, let's let's bring the fire into it.
- 51:43Speaker 6: Uh bar Yeah, you're right, dude, barbarire And my favorite,
- 51:48Speaker 6: let's bring some thumb tacks. Man. Where I see them
- 51:53Speaker 6: use thumb tacks man. Whenever somebody tells me brestling's fake
- 51:57Speaker 6: in there, it's all they don't get hurt. I'm like,
- 52:00Speaker 6: you fucking see them laying on a bunch of thumb tacks.
- 52:04Speaker 6: Those are fake fucking thumb tacks. Thumb tacks. I can't
- 52:09Speaker 6: remember if it was Orton or Jericho, one of these
- 52:11Speaker 6: guys I saw in the match that got it really
- 52:13Speaker 6: bad on their back and on their you can see
- 52:15Speaker 6: it stuck to their shoes and ship. But I think
- 52:19Speaker 6: that was or Yeah, dude, I want to r k o.
- 52:23Speaker 6: Uh somebody was. I think it was Mick Foley and
- 52:28Speaker 6: uh yeah, and you got pushed and just like you
- 52:32Speaker 6: right th those thumb tacks, man, holy ship.
- 52:37Speaker 17: Right in the center of the pile two, not like
- 52:39Speaker 17: a convenient out edge of tacks, like right in the center.
- 52:43Speaker 6: Yeah, And you know, like we there's there's hardcore matches
- 52:46Speaker 6: now and stuff, but like especially if you w W
- 52:49Speaker 6: back in the nineties, I mean like chair shots to
- 52:51Speaker 6: the head and being handcuffed while getting it done, it
- 52:54Speaker 6: was all standard, you know.
- 52:57Speaker 22: It's just yeah, a couple of weeks ago, was trying
- 53:01Speaker 22: to drown Darby al And in a fish tank in
- 53:03Speaker 22: the middle of the you know, like through the ship today,
- 53:07Speaker 22: Like it's not it's not tears off to the head,
- 53:09Speaker 22: but it's just like diapholical.
- 53:12Speaker 12: Actually I was.
- 53:13Speaker 23: I was kind of I was.
- 53:14Speaker 8: Kind of disappointed.
- 53:15Speaker 11: I thought he's gonna have a tank full of Kiran
- 53:17Speaker 11: and Hen and.
- 53:19Speaker 8: Put his hand and always have that. Maybe next time.
- 53:24Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't watch a w so
- 53:26Speaker 6: I mean, if that's the lengths that they're going to
- 53:29Speaker 6: to get like viewers, I guess, or just.
- 53:33Speaker 8: You know it was it was a paper.
- 53:36Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's intense.
- 53:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean for an aquip matt that's mashed,
- 53:41Speaker 3: that's pretty effective.
- 53:46Speaker 9: Underwater, I think.
- 53:49Speaker 17: I mean, if he can't respond, does he technically quit exactly?
- 53:55Speaker 3: Might have been maybe a little bit more effective if
- 53:56Speaker 3: they use something bigger than that little fish tank, but
- 54:01Speaker 3: still drowning is drowning, I guess.
- 54:03Speaker 6: Yeah, what the hell? All right, guys, let's get into
- 54:11Speaker 6: Saturday Night Main Event forty one took place November one
- 54:17Speaker 6: at Salt Lake City, Utah, at the Delta Center. This
- 54:21Speaker 6: was on Peacock. It was not on ESPN Plus, so
- 54:26Speaker 6: for those people who are on ESPN plus a day
- 54:29Speaker 6: looking at it and like where the fuck is it?
- 54:31Speaker 6: It was still on the Cocks.
- 54:34Speaker 8: Not at NBC.
- 54:36Speaker 6: Yeah, although if you are one of our listeners from India,
- 54:42Speaker 6: it is on so many sports network on November, so
- 54:45Speaker 6: you don't to get to many apologies you have to
- 54:48Speaker 6: watch the same day we did. Did you guys know
- 54:55Speaker 6: that there was a dark match, because I didn't fucking
- 54:57Speaker 6: know that. No, yeah is dark. It's not like I
- 55:02Speaker 6: understand where it says dark. But why don't we have
- 55:04Speaker 6: them on the kickoff show? Why do we have a
- 55:06Speaker 6: one hour kickoff show? And you know, Bailey defeated and
- 55:11Speaker 6: singles match.
- 55:14Speaker 3: They didn't even have a kickoff show, I don't think
- 55:16Speaker 3: for a Saturday night made event.
- 55:18Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if they did.
- 55:19Speaker 3: I didn't know if they didn't, because I because I
- 55:22Speaker 3: thought there was going to be a kickoff show because
- 55:23Speaker 3: I had it queued up on Peacock and no, it
- 55:26Speaker 3: was just saying, you know, this event will begin shortly,
- 55:29Speaker 3: and then at seven o'clock it just started.
- 55:32Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 55:33Speaker 11: Well, I also postulated that because they weren't on NBC,
- 55:37Speaker 11: they might be able to go as long as they wanted.
- 55:40Speaker 12: And they didn't even go two hours.
- 55:44Speaker 6: Yeah, there was pretty much in and out quickie, man.
- 55:48Speaker 6: And you know what, Yeah it was a quickie.
- 55:50Speaker 8: No.
- 55:51Speaker 6: No, the body, yeah, dude, yeah, even the yeah old Jesse. Yeah,
- 56:07Speaker 6: this is only four matches, man, And what I uh,
- 56:11Speaker 6: I was content with just fucking four matches you know,
- 56:15Speaker 6: I was quite busy during the PA the actual event happening,
- 56:19Speaker 6: and they watched it the night after. But yeah, uh
- 56:25Speaker 6: how many people were there? Let's see, it doesn't it's
- 56:27Speaker 6: not telling me on uh oh, that sucks. I was
- 56:31Speaker 6: kind of curious how many people were there in the
- 56:33Speaker 6: attendance at Salt Lake City, Utah on the Delta Center,
- 56:36Speaker 6: but Wikipedia, for once does not want to tell me. Rude. Now,
- 56:41Speaker 6: I have one guy out there, it's probably Carlos going.
- 56:43Speaker 6: I want to know how many people were there. I
- 56:46Speaker 6: need to know, and I'm sorry, Carlos, I can't report that.
- 56:53Speaker 6: So to kick off the pay per view, of course, right,
- 56:57Speaker 6: if you don't go on last, you go on first,
- 57:02Speaker 6: very first, not even like the second guy of the match,
- 57:05Speaker 6: which I used to believe that the champion would always
- 57:07Speaker 6: come out second. But no, not in this case, not
- 57:12Speaker 6: when you used to kick off the show. So we
- 57:14Speaker 6: kicked off the show with Cody Rhodes, I guess Drew
- 57:19Speaker 6: McIntyre for the undisputed w W Championship, and somewhere down
- 57:24Speaker 6: the line, I must have fucking missed this. I don't
- 57:27Speaker 6: know if it happened on SmackDown or was on Twitter.
- 57:30Speaker 6: That was announcer like five minutes before the match. Match,
- 57:33Speaker 6: but uh, if Rhodes got disqualified or counted out, he
- 57:37Speaker 6: would lose the title.
- 57:41Speaker 3: That was I had a stipulation on SmackDown the night before.
- 57:44Speaker 6: Okay, okay, because I I did miss I did miss SmackDown.
- 57:48Speaker 6: And when I was watching that, I was like, wait, really, like, okay,
- 57:53Speaker 6: whatever it plays in Drew's benefit. He really tried to,
- 58:00Speaker 6: you know, to get him counted out, to use the ref,
- 58:03Speaker 6: you know, to twist and turn get his way, and
- 58:08Speaker 6: he tried, you know, there was even a try to
- 58:11Speaker 6: get Cody to use the title on him, and it
- 58:14Speaker 6: just didn't work. Man, it just did not work. He
- 58:19Speaker 6: got he got put down. He there was even I
- 58:22Speaker 6: do like the I do like. There was a part
- 58:25Speaker 6: where Drew Bitcody, which I thought was that was kind
- 58:28Speaker 6: of weird, but uh, I guess whatever you got to
- 58:32Speaker 6: do to win that. We had that weird spot where
- 58:34Speaker 6: Cody wants to go run into do a Cody cutter
- 58:36Speaker 6: and the ref was in the way and it's Cody
- 58:39Speaker 6: act like he injured his knee and I actually rerounded
- 58:43Speaker 6: and I was like, wait a second, his knee is fine.
- 58:45Speaker 6: I was like the ref was just in the fucking way.
- 58:49Speaker 6: So I believe that spot was just a botch spot.
- 58:52Speaker 6: You know, it seemed like the ref was in the
- 58:56Speaker 6: way a couple of times.
- 59:01Speaker 8: And yeah, but that's what he's supposed to do.
- 59:03Speaker 11: Like, I thought the referee was the best part of
- 59:05Speaker 11: the match actually, because he was always in the wrong
- 59:08Speaker 11: place at the right time. But he was in the
- 59:10Speaker 11: right place at the wrong time too, Like he did
- 59:12Speaker 11: a great job.
- 59:13Speaker 12: I thought he did not have an easy job.
- 59:15Speaker 8: I don't think and I thought he did great.
- 59:18Speaker 6: I can't wait to get to you. I did think
- 59:22Speaker 6: it's weird though, that Cody only had to use one crossroads,
- 59:26Speaker 6: because we've been accustomed to seeing Cody having to use
- 59:29Speaker 6: two or three to put his opponents away. But not true, right,
- 59:34Speaker 6: This takes True out with one crossroads on the title
- 59:37Speaker 6: by the.
- 59:37Speaker 9: Way, that's whats right there?
- 59:42Speaker 3: Title helps?
- 59:44Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, the title helps. Are we getting down a path?
- 59:52Speaker 6: Are we leading down to a Cody Heel turn?
- 59:59Speaker 9: Well, oh not yet.
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: Everybody keeps hoping for it.
- 1:00:04Speaker 8: I think we're getting.
- 1:00:09Speaker 6: I know, I think it might go the other way around.
- 1:00:13Speaker 6: I think we might get Cody turning heel and Randy
- 1:00:15Speaker 6: be in the face. That's crazy. But Cody's just getting
- 1:00:18Speaker 6: stale for me.
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, he's maybe getting people.
- 1:00:27Speaker 6: See Okay, Dre, let's let's get your thoughts on this.
- 1:00:30Speaker 6: I'm wrapped up my part. Go ahead, take it away.
- 1:00:35Speaker 3: People always love to say that something is getting stale.
- 1:00:40Speaker 6: Mm hm, that's me.
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: It's like, Cody just got the damn title back. How
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: is it already getting stale? He just got it back
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: at Summer Slam. Granted, he took some time off to
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: do uh street Fighter, so he's really only been back
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: since the SmackDown that was in Norfolk. That's when he
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: came back. So he's only been back for a little while,
- 1:01:10Speaker 3: and people are already talking about it's gotting stale, Like
- 1:01:14Speaker 3: how it ain't had enough time to get stale. It
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: ain't past the expiration date on the package yet. There's
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: no way it can already be stale. He just got
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: the title back, and like, I get it. If the
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: whole you know, white bread babyface thing is boring to
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: some people, I get it, But you gotta have one
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: of those in your company, especially if he's gonna be
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: the one at the top, if he's gonna be the
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: face of the company. Everybody can't be a stone coat
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: Steve Austin, you know, rebellious, boss ass, kicking, badass type.
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta be just the white bread babyface because
- 1:01:53Speaker 3: that's what moves units, that's what sales merch, that's what
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: the kids rock with, And that's what Cody is right now.
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: He's QB one, He's the face. He gonna be about
- 1:02:03Speaker 3: as clean cut as it can be. He can show
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: a little bit of edge, which is what we're getting
- 1:02:08Speaker 3: from him, and matches and confused with Drew McIntyre. Is
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: him being willing to, like, you know what, I'll take
- 1:02:16Speaker 3: an advantage here because he knows his opponent wouldn't hesitate
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: to do it. To me, that gives him just enough
- 1:02:23Speaker 3: edge to him just enough gray while still preserving him
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: as mostly a babyface, but also not willing, not unwilling
- 1:02:33Speaker 3: to take an advantage that he knows his opponent wouldn't
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: hesitate to do either. So I'm perfectly content with where
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: he's at right now as a character. And no, he
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: does not need to turn heel somewhere just to suddenly
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: become interesting or what have you. Perfectly find where he's
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: at as.
- 1:02:55Speaker 6: For the match, Doyle, what's your thoughts?
- 1:03:07Speaker 12: Well, like I said, I thought the ref was great, uh,
- 1:03:09Speaker 12: and in fact, I.
- 1:03:10Speaker 8: Thought the match was pretty good.
- 1:03:13Speaker 12: I actually thought Drew might do it.
- 1:03:15Speaker 11: And that's kind of the whole point with a match
- 1:03:18Speaker 11: like this, you know, I think it's it succeeds if
- 1:03:22Speaker 11: you believe that the challenger might actually do it, at
- 1:03:26Speaker 11: which I did.
- 1:03:27Speaker 8: Uh. Now, part of that is because I'm a huge
- 1:03:29Speaker 8: Drew fan. Probably part of it because I.
- 1:03:32Speaker 11: Don't really offer Coady all that much, even though I
- 1:03:35Speaker 11: totally agree with Drey what he just said.
- 1:03:40Speaker 8: See what time was I about to say? Ship? I
- 1:03:44Speaker 8: lost it? Uh? You know.
- 1:03:47Speaker 11: The only thing is that I feel like we say
- 1:03:50Speaker 11: all the time like and SnO can afford to lose,
- 1:03:52Speaker 11: so and SO can afford to lose. I feel like
- 1:03:54Speaker 11: we said a lot, and I feel like we have
- 1:03:57Speaker 11: said it about Drew a lot.
- 1:03:58Speaker 8: But I'm starting to wonder if that's still.
- 1:04:00Speaker 24: True, because I feel like he's done nothing but lose
- 1:04:04Speaker 24: and lose and lose and lose, and at some point
- 1:04:08Speaker 24: he's gonna have to win a match or two here,
- 1:04:11Speaker 24: you know. Uh, I'm starting to get concerned about our friend,
- 1:04:15Speaker 24: mister Mcatiah.
- 1:04:17Speaker 8: I just feel like.
- 1:04:17Speaker 11: He's losing too much, and you know, he could could
- 1:04:22Speaker 11: could take it for a while, but I think we're
- 1:04:25Speaker 11: using up whatever, uh, whatever credibility there was.
- 1:04:33Speaker 8: I guess maybe it's the word by having him lose
- 1:04:37Speaker 8: so much.
- 1:04:37Speaker 11: You know, I hope we I hope we turn it
- 1:04:40Speaker 11: around a little bit with him.
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: That is valid Drew Drew is. There's definitely calls for
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: concern with Drew because he seems to be stuck in
- 1:04:51Speaker 3: this position where he's always a challenger but never a champion,
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: where he's like, okay, when he's my for the champter phase,
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: all right, put him in a few with Drew. But
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: Drew has yet to come out on top of any
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: of his feuds as of late, really not even as
- 1:05:08Speaker 3: of late, going back to twenty twenty four, right, Yeah,
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: you had a bang of a few with Punk, but
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: he wound up at the loser or the end of that. Yeah. Yeah,
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: at some point Drew needs to definitely does need to
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: pick up some wins and you know, get him a
- 1:05:28Speaker 3: title run or something, which I think is going to
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: happen at some point. I don't I don't know if
- 1:05:34Speaker 3: this is the end of Drew and Cody right now,
- 1:05:37Speaker 3: it could be, but it might not also might not be.
- 1:05:43Speaker 6: Tyler, let's get you in on this conversation. What do
- 1:05:46Speaker 6: you think?
- 1:05:49Speaker 9: Hmm uh?
- 1:05:50Speaker 17: And And honestly, I missed like the first half of
- 1:05:54Speaker 17: the match, and I could have missed the entire match
- 1:06:01Speaker 17: and not really cared. And that sounds terrible, I know,
- 1:06:06Speaker 17: but I'm kind of at a point where I'm over
- 1:06:11Speaker 17: Drew McIntyre as a heel And to Dre's point earlier,
- 1:06:16Speaker 17: Cody Road is kind of like and it fell off.
- 1:06:20Speaker 9: For me a little bit, you know. And you, Dre,
- 1:06:23Speaker 9: you made the point about.
- 1:06:24Speaker 17: Him like giving, like him having an edge, you know,
- 1:06:27Speaker 17: and maybe like taking an advantage here and there when
- 1:06:29Speaker 17: he can get it. My only argument would be, hasn't
- 1:06:32Speaker 17: he had that all along? Like isn't that how he
- 1:06:34Speaker 17: got the championship from Roman Reigns the first time? Was
- 1:06:40Speaker 17: having a little edge or assistance or an advantage of
- 1:06:42Speaker 17: some sort. Not to say that he's constantly had one
- 1:06:47Speaker 17: to retain the title, but I just, you know, something
- 1:06:53Speaker 17: needs to change with him, and I'm just over the
- 1:06:55Speaker 17: heel run with Drewe So that was one that I
- 1:07:00Speaker 17: didn't really feel invested in all that much.
- 1:07:08Speaker 6: Cut. I mean, yeah, I like, I like code true
- 1:07:13Speaker 6: as a heel, but like Doyle says, he's always the
- 1:07:15Speaker 6: guy just never win it, I guess, and just gets
- 1:07:18Speaker 6: so close that he's competing for it, just never wins it. Actually,
- 1:07:23Speaker 6: and it sucks because I think as a heel, what's that.
- 1:07:29Speaker 8: Ding the same? I'm sorry.
- 1:07:30Speaker 6: Yeah, since he's been healed, he's only been championed for
- 1:07:33Speaker 6: like five minutes, like literally five minutes. He has not
- 1:07:38Speaker 6: had a championship run as a heel, and it sucks.
- 1:07:43Speaker 11: Well, that's yeah, that's kind of what I was gonna say,
- 1:07:45Speaker 11: Like he we're still waiting for his payback or get
- 1:07:48Speaker 11: back or whatever you want to call it from from
- 1:07:51Speaker 11: the pandemic WrestleMania, right like, uh, the last real run
- 1:07:55Speaker 11: he had.
- 1:07:55Speaker 8: Wasn't in front of anybody.
- 1:07:57Speaker 11: Uh, and he did just find a big new contract
- 1:08:00Speaker 11: from what I understand, so I don't think this much
- 1:08:03Speaker 11: danger him going anywhere or whatever. But it's at the
- 1:08:06Speaker 11: same time, he's gonna start winning the match, you know, right.
- 1:08:13Speaker 6: Soon. Alright, let's move on to the next match. I'm
- 1:08:20Speaker 6: gonna I'm gonna play this well, no, I'll play it
- 1:08:24Speaker 6: then uh, this is Jake Cargole versing Tiffy Time Tiffany
- 1:08:29Speaker 6: Stratton for the w W Women's Championship match. Now, the
- 1:08:33Speaker 6: last match went on for eighteen minutes forty five seconds.
- 1:08:37Speaker 6: This match went on for a hoffen five minutes and
- 1:08:41Speaker 6: thirty seconds. Why why I'm gonna play this little uh
- 1:08:48Speaker 6: this audio clip I have of Jake Cargo from SmackDown
- 1:08:51Speaker 6: the other night.
- 1:08:53Speaker 20: Oh, I know what I want to What I want
- 1:08:55Speaker 20: is that title. So tomorrow at Saturday night, May of
- 1:09:01Speaker 20: Tappy Time is up.
- 1:09:06Speaker 6: It's Tappa Tam daph it.
- 1:09:09Speaker 9: Damn is.
- 1:09:13Speaker 8: Uh.
- 1:09:15Speaker 6: You know, I don't think either of them cut good
- 1:09:18Speaker 6: promos on each other. I mean it was kind of
- 1:09:21Speaker 6: hard to watch.
- 1:09:25Speaker 17: Like a cringe movement if anything, Yeah, a little cringe.
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: You know.
- 1:09:29Speaker 6: We've had Tiffany Stratton versus Jay Cargo before and Tiffany
- 1:09:33Speaker 6: is obviously going over twice on her, But to have
- 1:09:36Speaker 6: it turn into a fucking squash match really like, Don't
- 1:09:42Speaker 6: get me wrong, guys, I wanted Jay Cargo to win.
- 1:09:45Speaker 6: I've wanted her to win. I think she was overdue.
- 1:09:48Speaker 6: I think she should have been a heel day one
- 1:09:50Speaker 6: of coming into the company. But I'm still content with
- 1:09:52Speaker 6: how they built her as a face team with Bianco,
- 1:09:56Speaker 6: you know, and nail me and I get it. And
- 1:09:59Speaker 6: setbacks of injuries. That's kind of actually, you know, because
- 1:10:03Speaker 6: remember when Jay got pushed onto that car by Naomi,
- 1:10:06Speaker 6: she got set back from an injury. Then she got
- 1:10:10Speaker 6: busted open the other week. What a hell of a
- 1:10:15Speaker 6: cut too. I mean you can see that stitch. It
- 1:10:17Speaker 6: makes her look bad ass, to be honest. I mean
- 1:10:20Speaker 6: if you go back and look at that that cut
- 1:10:22Speaker 6: that Jake got on her forehead from that eyebrow from
- 1:10:26Speaker 6: the steel steps, that was a deep fucking gash.
- 1:10:31Speaker 8: Uh.
- 1:10:31Speaker 6: So, yeah, I thought that's pretty bad ass. Uh. But yeah,
- 1:10:36Speaker 6: I just I just didn't understand the booking of it
- 1:10:39Speaker 6: is there is there an underlying injury Tiffany's having, you know,
- 1:10:43Speaker 6: and you know what, like Tiffany Stratton has had a
- 1:10:45Speaker 6: pretty fucking bad couple of weeks between finding out about
- 1:10:49Speaker 6: her ex you know, uh Grande Americano, you know now
- 1:10:56Speaker 6: with uh was that a triple A ring announcer? I
- 1:11:02Speaker 6: think Ludwick Kaiser's dating now and apparently I guess it
- 1:11:06Speaker 6: was true. He was sliding into Charlotte Flair's d MS
- 1:11:10Speaker 6: legend this man. Uh yeah, she had a pretty bad.
- 1:11:17Speaker 8: Week the Germans.
- 1:11:19Speaker 6: Uh yeah. I mean I thought we would have got
- 1:11:22Speaker 6: a way better match out of this. It's just a
- 1:11:24Speaker 6: fucking squash. I wish it would have went on a
- 1:11:31Speaker 6: lot longer, but this is what we got. Didn't expect
- 1:11:35Speaker 6: the squash match? Uh?
- 1:11:40Speaker 8: Or?
- 1:11:40Speaker 6: Was this what we're gonna see going forward? Is we
- 1:11:42Speaker 6: just gonna see Jade just start fucking squashing people now?
- 1:11:45Speaker 6: I mean, if you squashed the champion this easily, like,
- 1:11:47Speaker 6: how are you gonna do against other competitors? Like, I'm
- 1:11:51Speaker 6: sure they're gonna revisit Jade versus Ni Jacks again. I'm
- 1:11:54Speaker 6: sure of it. There was I feel like the beginning
- 1:12:01Speaker 6: of her career a slight tease of her versus Charlotte.
- 1:12:05Speaker 6: I could see that. Now that Charlotte's a face and
- 1:12:07Speaker 6: she's a heel, I'm trying to think who else is
- 1:12:12Speaker 6: on SmackDown that would be I mean, it's really hard
- 1:12:14Speaker 6: to remember who's even on SmackDown female wise, that would
- 1:12:18Speaker 6: even be a good You know, Bianca, I don't know
- 1:12:21Speaker 6: when she's slated to come back, but she'd be great, great, great,
- 1:12:26Speaker 6: And that's why I think we're all waiting for.
- 1:12:30Speaker 9: But she's tied up in a story right now.
- 1:12:32Speaker 6: Yeah, Tyler, let me get your thoughts on on this match,
- 1:12:36Speaker 6: Jake Cargo versus Timmy Stratton. What do you think? Man?
- 1:12:42Speaker 6: Half five minutes and thirty seconds?
- 1:12:46Speaker 17: Yeah, it was just I feel like it went the
- 1:12:49Speaker 17: way a lot of Tiffany's matches having to pass were like,
- 1:12:53Speaker 17: you know, she was she wasn't doing so well and
- 1:12:57Speaker 17: and you know, she couldn't really like it.
- 1:13:01Speaker 9: She just had no way of getting in and trading
- 1:13:04Speaker 9: an offense that really pushed her.
- 1:13:09Speaker 17: I can't think of any any other way to put
- 1:13:11Speaker 17: it other than that. But this time it didn't work
- 1:13:14Speaker 17: out in her favorite where she gets that you know
- 1:13:16Speaker 17: that last second w you know, just Jade just overpowered
- 1:13:22Speaker 17: her and dominated her. And uh it was quite the performance, uh,
- 1:13:29Speaker 17: for for Jade. Unfortunately for Tiffany it didn't work out.
- 1:13:35Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:13:36Speaker 6: Literally, no no offense in there. Nothing I saw from
- 1:13:40Speaker 6: Tiffany Doyle.
- 1:13:43Speaker 11: Well they mean yeah, I mean they nursed her with
- 1:13:47Speaker 11: the with the knee, uh, And I guess that was
- 1:13:50Speaker 11: probably a contributing factor, but that wasn't at least it
- 1:13:53Speaker 11: wasn't the reason.
- 1:13:54Speaker 8: I guess she just got fucking bombarded, right.
- 1:13:57Speaker 11: Uh, And that's how it should have gone. That's and
- 1:14:00Speaker 11: I think that's how we thought it was gonna go.
- 1:14:02Speaker 11: There's no surprise there. And I'm gonna say, well, I
- 1:14:07Speaker 11: said that I didn't think that. One of the reasons
- 1:14:09Speaker 11: I didn't think Punk was in a witness because I
- 1:14:10Speaker 11: didn't think that the Saturday night's main event was a
- 1:14:12Speaker 11: big enough stage.
- 1:14:14Speaker 12: I'm going to say that again when we get to that.
- 1:14:17Speaker 11: But like, for like, Jade's thing is a perfect size
- 1:14:22Speaker 11: stage for Jade.
- 1:14:23Speaker 8: I think so. Yeah.
- 1:14:26Speaker 11: I mean, I think this this was the squat we
- 1:14:28Speaker 11: needed from her, but it's still kind of protects Tiffany,
- 1:14:32Speaker 11: which is fine.
- 1:14:33Speaker 8: She's gonna win.
- 1:14:34Speaker 11: A whole lot more world titles before she hangs them up.
- 1:14:38Speaker 11: I think, so she's gonna be fine. Yeah, yeah, I'm
- 1:14:43Speaker 11: just interested to see what happens.
- 1:14:45Speaker 8: You know.
- 1:14:45Speaker 11: Obviously, I think we look at Bioka as the you know,
- 1:14:50Speaker 11: most likely first opponent or whatever, but we have no
- 1:14:54Speaker 11: idea when she's coming back. The last I saw said
- 1:14:58Speaker 11: maybe early twenty twenty six, Yes, which is right around
- 1:15:02Speaker 11: the corner.
- 1:15:03Speaker 8: Is both right around the.
- 1:15:04Speaker 12: Corner and ways away at the same time, So I
- 1:15:10Speaker 12: don't know, we'll see.
- 1:15:11Speaker 8: It's so far, so good.
- 1:15:13Speaker 25: But again, you gotta keep it going with Jade, and
- 1:15:15Speaker 25: that's always been a problem for her.
- 1:15:18Speaker 12: So let's see what happens, and of course I hope
- 1:15:20Speaker 12: she does well.
- 1:15:21Speaker 8: We will see.
- 1:15:23Speaker 6: M all right, Jay, what'd you got?
- 1:15:30Speaker 3: This match went exactly how it was supposed to go.
- 1:15:36Speaker 3: Jay Cargill beat the ship out of Tiffany Stratton the
- 1:15:40Speaker 3: way she did at SummerSlam, except this time she didn't
- 1:15:44Speaker 3: hold back, or she didn't make the same mistake or
- 1:15:46Speaker 3: slip up or allow for a Tiffy comeback like has
- 1:15:52Speaker 3: happened in the past. So for them to finally pull
- 1:15:56Speaker 3: the trigger on Jade's hill turn and present her now
- 1:16:02Speaker 3: as the villain, she needed a dominant win to fully
- 1:16:07Speaker 3: uh establish that you know, this is not the same
- 1:16:11Speaker 3: Jade we've been dealing with in the past, and what
- 1:16:14Speaker 3: better way for her to do that than to squash
- 1:16:16Speaker 3: the champion, beat her in a dominant fashion and become
- 1:16:20Speaker 3: the new Women's World Women's w W Champion. Yes, they did,
- 1:16:25Speaker 3: you know, put a bit of an injury on angle
- 1:16:28Speaker 3: on Tiffy to help protect her. I guess which is
- 1:16:32Speaker 3: I guess that's okay? If you know, for that, I
- 1:16:35Speaker 3: didn't think it was necessary. I think it may have
- 1:16:38Speaker 3: worked better just to have Jade win clean, you know,
- 1:16:43Speaker 3: against a you know, Tiffy stritten at her at her
- 1:16:47Speaker 3: full and she just gets flat out beat. Because again
- 1:16:54Speaker 3: that's essentially what happened at SummerSlam. J Cargo dominated that match.
- 1:17:00Speaker 3: It's just that they booked a Tiffy comeback out of
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: nowhere and which allowed her to retain. But far as
- 1:17:09Speaker 3: this match, it was exactly what it was supposed to
- 1:17:12Speaker 3: be in my opinion.
- 1:17:16Speaker 6: All right, man, well somebody was very happy with the outcome.
- 1:17:20Speaker 6: I mean I kind of was instant like how we
- 1:17:22Speaker 6: got there? All right, let's move on. We're halfway through
- 1:17:30Speaker 6: Baby Dominic Mysterio the Intercontinental Champion versus Pandah and rrusive
- 1:17:39Speaker 6: triple threat match. I love triple threat matches. That's went
- 1:17:42Speaker 6: on for twelve minutes thirty seconds. Dominic Mysterio used such
- 1:17:47Speaker 6: tactics to get through this match as the Eddie Guerrero
- 1:17:51Speaker 6: chair shot and not realizing that it's a fucking triple
- 1:17:55Speaker 6: threat and you kind of get away with it. Whatever.
- 1:17:59Speaker 6: I did think it was clever as ship scene. Dom
- 1:18:05Speaker 6: used the fucking ring bell and fold Ruse and me
- 1:18:09Speaker 6: folds all of us thinking that they bend over and
- 1:18:13Speaker 6: Dumb's fucking hitting the bell man. I was laughing, he's
- 1:18:17Speaker 6: doing anything. Nobody even just.
- 1:18:21Speaker 8: I need to interrupt you.
- 1:18:21Speaker 11: Here the fucking timekeeper bell is about twelve feet away
- 1:18:27Speaker 11: from the announced desk.
- 1:18:29Speaker 12: How do they not see Dom standing right there ringing
- 1:18:32Speaker 12: the bell?
- 1:18:33Speaker 8: Why are they?
- 1:18:34Speaker 9: Like?
- 1:18:34Speaker 24: What's going on?
- 1:18:35Speaker 8: I don't understand it.
- 1:18:38Speaker 6: That's just as dumb as like nothing with the bell.
- 1:18:42Speaker 11: He's been messing with the hammer for weeks now, Like
- 1:18:45Speaker 11: why is your first thought?
- 1:18:46Speaker 8: Let's look at the thing and see what's going on
- 1:18:49Speaker 8: over there?
- 1:18:50Speaker 12: Yeah, like it really strange credulity.
- 1:18:53Speaker 6: Doyle as something like last week I had to laugh.
- 1:18:57Speaker 6: Adam Pearce, you know, is walking in the b and
- 1:19:00Speaker 6: he goes, have you got seen Dom? And they're like, no, no,
- 1:19:03Speaker 6: I haven't have you seen Dom?
- 1:19:05Speaker 11: No?
- 1:19:05Speaker 6: And he just turns his head to the left. Oh
- 1:19:08Speaker 6: there he is. Yeah, he's right there. Like you couldn't
- 1:19:11Speaker 6: hear you? You're like yelling for him, you know, like
- 1:19:13Speaker 6: have you seen Dumb? Yeah, dude, I'm like right here,
- 1:19:15Speaker 6: turn your head to the left. Oh my god. Yeah.
- 1:19:23Speaker 6: Between that and I did like how Russa was basically
- 1:19:27Speaker 6: just tossing dom around using that that strength that he got.
- 1:19:31Speaker 6: Russ and Penta, that's a match I haven't seen before.
- 1:19:36Speaker 6: You know, I thought you're gonna have I think Penta
- 1:19:40Speaker 6: kick out at one point, or not kick out submit
- 1:19:42Speaker 6: at one point when he had the what was that
- 1:19:46Speaker 6: that camel clutch almost the what's his finisher?
- 1:19:50Speaker 8: Accolade?
- 1:19:51Speaker 6: Accolade? Yeah, dude, I thought that's where we would have
- 1:19:53Speaker 6: had it, That's where he would have won it. I
- 1:19:57Speaker 6: guess this is not the push that either these guys
- 1:20:00Speaker 6: are gonna get. And it sucks because I really like
- 1:20:05Speaker 6: Penta and I was hoping that, like he soon gets
- 1:20:08Speaker 6: his own single title run. It just doesn't seem like
- 1:20:11Speaker 6: that's gonna happen yet. I don't know what they're gonna
- 1:20:15Speaker 6: do with russive man, like he's just dead when he
- 1:20:19Speaker 6: comes out, Like there's fans are just not feeling it.
- 1:20:21Speaker 6: I think, you know, call me crazy, but like, let's
- 1:20:25Speaker 6: go and try to revisit rusive day. It's the only
- 1:20:31Speaker 6: thing that worked for that man, and they just didn't
- 1:20:34Speaker 6: run with it because old man Vince didn't like it.
- 1:20:38Speaker 6: So let's run it back. Run it back, Let's try
- 1:20:42Speaker 6: it again. I mean, you're not gonna get his ex
- 1:20:45Speaker 6: you know, you know you're not gonna get C J.
- 1:20:47Speaker 6: Perry coming back. I think you get Oh my god,
- 1:20:53Speaker 6: I can't remember the guy who did the announcing for
- 1:20:56Speaker 6: him for when he came out for Rusive Day. He's
- 1:20:59Speaker 6: now now a commentator. I think English aid in English.
- 1:21:04Speaker 12: Damn. I don't know what villains who as we covered earlier.
- 1:21:12Speaker 8: I fucking loved.
- 1:21:15Speaker 6: Yeah, I totally forgot his name, but yeah, he would
- 1:21:18Speaker 6: do like a little intro and you know, it was
- 1:21:21Speaker 6: a stick and it worked. It worked. But yeah, I
- 1:21:26Speaker 6: don't know, uh I. We also talked about where Dom
- 1:21:30Speaker 6: is probably going after this. I mean, maybe he might
- 1:21:32Speaker 6: lose that that triple A title to Daddy, you know,
- 1:21:38Speaker 6: and who knows. We did discuss earlier about losing an
- 1:21:41Speaker 6: IC title possibly, but other than that, I don't I
- 1:21:45Speaker 6: don't know where Penta and Russ go from here, guys.
- 1:21:49Speaker 6: I mean I enjoyed this match has a good triple
- 1:21:51Speaker 6: threat also Dom, you know, being just like any other
- 1:21:56Speaker 6: triple threat, you know, you let somebody else do all
- 1:21:58Speaker 6: the work, hit the finish, sure, and you come in,
- 1:22:01Speaker 6: you throw them out. And you steal that fucking pin,
- 1:22:03Speaker 6: and that's exactly how it went.
- 1:22:09Speaker 3: That's why he's the goat.
- 1:22:10Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, I mean that's that's with no help from
- 1:22:14Speaker 6: the judgment day. That's how he made it by on
- 1:22:16Speaker 6: his own. But I think his I think he's gonna
- 1:22:20Speaker 6: be everybody's gun from it, and look like nobody wants
- 1:22:22Speaker 6: to help him anymore. You know, you're wearing two titles
- 1:22:26Speaker 6: in your back. That's twice the amount of targets on
- 1:22:28Speaker 6: you your front end back. So I think dirty Dom
- 1:22:33Speaker 6: is running out of ways to keep the gold, dre
- 1:22:40Speaker 6: what'd you think of this match?
- 1:22:43Speaker 3: I thought it was a good match. It was, it
- 1:22:45Speaker 3: was entertaining. Obviously, the highlight of it was, as you mentioned,
- 1:22:48Speaker 3: the bell ringing when Russef had Penca and the acolyte
- 1:22:54Speaker 3: and then the bell rung just for it to be
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: Dom over there ringing the bell. I thought that was
- 1:22:59Speaker 3: fucking yeah. I love that spot right there. And then,
- 1:23:04Speaker 3: like I said, Dom finding ways to retain the championship,
- 1:23:10Speaker 3: even if it's evolved in cheating or him trying to
- 1:23:13Speaker 3: cheat in matches where cheating is all all in sense
- 1:23:17Speaker 3: of purpose is legal. With him trying what was the
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: chair spot and the rest, Like dude, that's solely llegal.
- 1:23:25Speaker 3: But yeah, eventually this is going to start to turn
- 1:23:32Speaker 3: in Dom's favor the longer this goes, because it's becoming entertained.
- 1:23:38Speaker 3: It's entertainment. It's one of the best aspects of his character.
- 1:23:42Speaker 3: And just like how it worked for Eddie, eventually, you know,
- 1:23:47Speaker 3: people hated it at first and then they became to
- 1:23:50Speaker 3: love Eddie Ford, the same thing eventually is gonna happen
- 1:23:52Speaker 3: with Dom. It's just a matter of when, not if.
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: And as far as him dropping one of those titles,
- 1:24:02Speaker 3: I could I guess I could see him dropping the
- 1:24:04Speaker 3: Triple A title to Ray at the next Triple A event,
- 1:24:07Speaker 3: if they decide to go that route and book that match.
- 1:24:13Speaker 3: But at the IC title, I don't see him losing
- 1:24:16Speaker 3: that one no time soon. I don't know that he's
- 1:24:19Speaker 3: gonna hold it all the way to WrestleMania next year
- 1:24:21Speaker 3: or anything like that, but I don't see anybody taking
- 1:24:25Speaker 3: that belt off of me anytime soon.
- 1:24:30Speaker 6: I kind of like that kind of thing's gonna hold
- 1:24:34Speaker 6: on to it a little bit longer. I'm over here
- 1:24:38Speaker 6: fearing that he's gonna lose the ship all okay, okay,
- 1:24:43Speaker 6: uh Doyle, what are your thoughts?
- 1:24:47Speaker 11: Yeah, I think Tom either is about two or just
- 1:24:50Speaker 11: did the past two hundred days champions.
- 1:24:54Speaker 8: He's been champion quite a while.
- 1:24:58Speaker 3: Yeah, it's two hundred days. He's actually current the longest
- 1:25:01Speaker 3: reigning champion in WWE.
- 1:25:04Speaker 8: That's fat.
- 1:25:06Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean he's the only person and I mean
- 1:25:09Speaker 11: for a while now, he's been the only person that
- 1:25:11Speaker 11: won their title at WrestleMania that's still had it.
- 1:25:15Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean Wayne, you kind of touch.
- 1:25:19Speaker 3: What's that, I'll just say, yeah, with with Tiffy losing
- 1:25:22Speaker 3: the w W Women's championship, Yeah, raining champion.
- 1:25:28Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy when you kind of touched on it.
- 1:25:32Speaker 23: But he's sort of he's sort of reinventing what a
- 1:25:36Speaker 23: chicken ship heel is, right, because chicken shick heels have
- 1:25:40Speaker 23: always been well chicken ship of course, but also kind
- 1:25:44Speaker 23: of stupid.
- 1:25:45Speaker 8: And Don isn't stupid.
- 1:25:47Speaker 11: He's like, uh, if if hockey tongue man was intelligent,
- 1:25:50Speaker 11: it's kind of where Don is at.
- 1:25:52Speaker 8: And yeah, I think it's great.
- 1:25:53Speaker 11: I think it's it's one of the more entertaining things
- 1:25:56Speaker 11: on the show consistently.
- 1:26:00Speaker 12: You know, he fan, he's He's gonna be a lot
- 1:26:02Speaker 12: of fun for a long.
- 1:26:03Speaker 8: Time, I think, uh.
- 1:26:05Speaker 11: And yeah, I mean they're gonna have to turn a
- 1:26:06Speaker 11: baby face sooner rather than later.
- 1:26:08Speaker 8: I think they're just not gonna have a choice for
- 1:26:12Speaker 8: when it is. I don't know, hard to say, but yeah, I.
- 1:26:16Speaker 25: Love the idea of of Dom and ranging again, especially
- 1:26:21Speaker 25: now that Dom's like a super heel, you know, uh,
- 1:26:26Speaker 25: but also kind of beloved at the same time.
- 1:26:29Speaker 8: It will be fun, I think. But yeah, I mean, yeah,
- 1:26:32Speaker 8: this is a lot of fun the end of the day.
- 1:26:35Speaker 11: And as much as I complained about just look to
- 1:26:38Speaker 11: your left and you can see.
- 1:26:39Speaker 12: Dom ringing, Abut it was still a fun ending.
- 1:26:42Speaker 8: Uh. You know.
- 1:26:43Speaker 11: I like that they're you know, finding unique ways to
- 1:26:47Speaker 11: do kind of the same thing.
- 1:26:49Speaker 25: We've been watching, you know, but uh, you're.
- 1:26:53Speaker 11: Managing to make a fresh kinda and I don't think
- 1:26:56Speaker 11: you can't ask for much more than that.
- 1:26:57Speaker 8: Yeah, and I don't think.
- 1:26:58Speaker 12: I don't think Dom's gonna lose I C belt for
- 1:27:01Speaker 12: a while.
- 1:27:02Speaker 8: I think he'll.
- 1:27:02Speaker 11: Probably lose the the Triple A belt before that. And
- 1:27:10Speaker 11: he said, I mean somebody from that actual company ought
- 1:27:13Speaker 11: to have it, probably at least, you know, for most
- 1:27:16Speaker 11: of the time.
- 1:27:18Speaker 24: Oh yeah, this is a fun match, but I yeah,
- 1:27:22Speaker 24: somebody said, what a Penta and roset do from here?
- 1:27:25Speaker 8: And who the hell knows?
- 1:27:26Speaker 12: Tenta, you can always break glass and stick.
- 1:27:28Speaker 11: Him with his brother in the tag team, you know,
- 1:27:31Speaker 11: and you can always have success with them that way.
- 1:27:34Speaker 26: But I feel like he left a A c W
- 1:27:39Speaker 26: A e W because he's losing so much and he's
- 1:27:42Speaker 26: found back to we to do nothing, believe, So I
- 1:27:47Speaker 26: don't know where he goes, all right, Tyler, let's hear you.
- 1:27:56Speaker 17: Up to this point in the show, I think it
- 1:27:58Speaker 17: was probably one of the more entertaining matches, not that
- 1:28:01Speaker 17: you know, Cody and Drew didn't deliver, but I think
- 1:28:05Speaker 17: this match was more entertaining. Excuse me, Dominic, I gotta
- 1:28:12Speaker 17: disagree with Doyle on this one. I think, well and
- 1:28:16Speaker 17: pretty much everybody, I think he loses the Intercontinental title
- 1:28:21Speaker 17: sooner rather than later. This whole angle that they're doing
- 1:28:26Speaker 17: with you know, him and Finn Balor going back and forth,
- 1:28:28Speaker 17: I think that comes to a head at some point, uh,
- 1:28:30Speaker 17: And I think it's soon because it's.
- 1:28:33Speaker 9: Been going on for how long now, you know. So
- 1:28:38Speaker 9: he loses that one and then the triple A title
- 1:28:41Speaker 9: to his dad.
- 1:28:42Speaker 17: Uh what event that happens at, I don't know, but
- 1:28:47Speaker 17: I think it's it would be a way to build
- 1:28:49Speaker 17: pity for him and sympathy and then do the fate
- 1:28:52Speaker 17: that you know, the turn to face.
- 1:28:58Speaker 9: Penta always enjoy watching him.
- 1:29:00Speaker 17: Wrestle, So his spots were were exactly as I expected
- 1:29:07Speaker 17: and thoroughly enjoyed that russif I got over watching him wrestle.
- 1:29:13Speaker 9: A little while ago, you know, three aw so anything
- 1:29:18Speaker 9: that he was in that wasn't like, oh yeah cool,
- 1:29:21Speaker 9: you know.
- 1:29:24Speaker 17: But overall just up to like I said, up to
- 1:29:26Speaker 17: this point in the show, like the the more enjoyable
- 1:29:29Speaker 17: match to watch.
- 1:29:32Speaker 8: Excuse me?
- 1:29:34Speaker 6: Okay, cool?
- 1:29:37Speaker 8: Cool?
- 1:29:37Speaker 12: Cool?
- 1:29:38Speaker 6: Alright, guys, let's move on to the last match the
- 1:29:42Speaker 6: main event at Saturn Night. Main event, we get CM
- 1:29:51Speaker 6: Punk versus jay Uso in a singles match for the
- 1:29:55Speaker 6: vacated World heavy Weight Championship, and this match went for
- 1:30:00Speaker 6: twenty one minutes.
- 1:30:04Speaker 14: Who I I mean, like, I think we all got
- 1:30:12Speaker 14: what we wanted, right, It all went in the direction
- 1:30:15Speaker 14: we all saw it going.
- 1:30:17Speaker 6: Uh, I'm I'm very happy with the outcome.
- 1:30:21Speaker 8: This is this is not at all the direction?
- 1:30:24Speaker 6: Really are you serious.
- 1:30:26Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought he made on the preview episode.
- 1:30:31Speaker 11: I thought this was gonna be a full of interference
- 1:30:34Speaker 11: and b and without definitive winner.
- 1:30:38Speaker 8: Yeah, I was waiting.
- 1:30:40Speaker 6: I actually go back and listen because I do recall that. Yeah,
- 1:30:43Speaker 6: I mean, I wasn't too you know, all that impressed
- 1:30:45Speaker 6: of this fucking match. I mean, it's even with Sam
- 1:30:51Speaker 6: Punk in the ring, it just didn't make it a
- 1:30:53Speaker 6: good match, a great match, But it's still I'm still happy.
- 1:30:57Speaker 6: I'm still happy that Punk is world champion. He can
- 1:30:59Speaker 6: hold onto its more than fucking five minutes this time.
- 1:31:02Speaker 6: They talk about fucking teams before this man came back,
- 1:31:07Speaker 6: he wins the world title and then they but it
- 1:31:09Speaker 6: was brilliant. It was brilliantly done. And to have you know,
- 1:31:14Speaker 6: this come almost full circle now that he you know,
- 1:31:18Speaker 6: had kind of took it from Seth. You know, he's vacated,
- 1:31:21Speaker 6: but like, just fucking crazy how it's come full circle
- 1:31:26Speaker 6: with these two. Actually, you know what I duell man,
- 1:31:32Speaker 6: I want to I want to hear your whole thoughts
- 1:31:33Speaker 6: on this, because you're saying this, think of the way
- 1:31:35Speaker 6: you thought it was gonna go. Yeah, let me hear
- 1:31:39Speaker 6: your opinion. On this.
- 1:31:42Speaker 11: Well, I thought I was going out on a little
- 1:31:44Speaker 11: bit of a limb predicting no no champion at the
- 1:31:47Speaker 11: end of it.
- 1:31:48Speaker 8: But I am, I am.
- 1:31:49Speaker 11: Absolutely shocked that the Bronze did not get involved in
- 1:31:53Speaker 11: this at the very least, uh if.
- 1:31:56Speaker 12: Not, like I thought it was gonna.
- 1:31:57Speaker 11: Be, uh, you know, WrestleMania forty main event type.
- 1:32:03Speaker 12: I thought the Bronze were getting involved.
- 1:32:04Speaker 8: I thought Jimmy was getting involved.
- 1:32:06Speaker 11: I thought La Knight was getting involved, and I thought
- 1:32:09Speaker 11: it was gonna end in chaos without a winner. But
- 1:32:13Speaker 11: like I said, I I part of the reason I
- 1:32:16Speaker 11: specifically didn't think punk was gonna win is this just
- 1:32:19Speaker 11: didn't seem like a big enough moment for that something that's.
- 1:32:22Speaker 8: Been an ongoing thing for a long time now. Punkin
- 1:32:26Speaker 8: in the title, Punkin in the title. I thought that dessert.
- 1:32:29Speaker 11: I thought that was gonna culminate in a several months
- 1:32:32Speaker 11: kind of you know, quests and in a bigger you know,
- 1:32:37Speaker 11: in a stadium, be it WrestleMania or somewhere Slam or
- 1:32:39Speaker 11: something like that.
- 1:32:40Speaker 8: Just a random Saturday night.
- 1:32:42Speaker 11: Saturday Night Lives Hello, He's Saturday Night's main event just
- 1:32:46Speaker 11: didn't seem you know, after you know, two weeks of
- 1:32:49Speaker 11: build or whatever it was.
- 1:32:51Speaker 12: Uh, just didn't seem like a big enough moment to me.
- 1:32:57Speaker 8: Likewise, Dave, I don't know what. Like you know, I
- 1:33:02Speaker 8: think in what was the behind the scenes show.
- 1:33:04Speaker 11: Right, and there was a thing about triple fucking h
- 1:33:08Speaker 11: was talking to Jay about like not blowing himself up
- 1:33:11Speaker 11: on his entrance or whatever, like is that? What is that?
- 1:33:14Speaker 8: What's happening?
- 1:33:15Speaker 11: Like?
- 1:33:16Speaker 8: Was was he drunk or hungover or something like? Jay
- 1:33:19Speaker 8: looked like hammered ship in this.
- 1:33:21Speaker 11: I mean, I know that the headlines we're gonna I
- 1:33:23Speaker 11: will go to the neck breaker.
- 1:33:26Speaker 8: Or whatever it was. But just all the the whole match,
- 1:33:29Speaker 8: he just didn't He didn't look like he wanted to
- 1:33:32Speaker 8: be there. He didn't seem like he cared. It was slow,
- 1:33:37Speaker 8: he looked lazy.
- 1:33:38Speaker 11: And that's when there was Phil, who I think often
- 1:33:41Speaker 11: looks slow and lazy.
- 1:33:43Speaker 12: Uh So, yeah, I was just But then even even
- 1:33:46Speaker 12: Monday night, in that tag.
- 1:33:48Speaker 8: Match, Jay looks one hundred times better.
- 1:33:50Speaker 11: So I don't know if it's a I don't know
- 1:33:52Speaker 11: if it's a tire in himself outing And in a
- 1:33:54Speaker 11: tag match he gets five minutes chunks of.
- 1:33:56Speaker 8: Time to rest or whatever.
- 1:34:00Speaker 12: I mean, I just I thought there was more money in.
- 1:34:03Speaker 11: The chase was still not having the title than kind
- 1:34:06Speaker 11: of getting it so haphazardly or so quickly or whatever.
- 1:34:09Speaker 27: Uh So that's surprise, and I can't express how shocked
- 1:34:13Speaker 27: I that, especially the.
- 1:34:15Speaker 11: Bronze had nothing to do with this, Hugh, for sure,
- 1:34:19Speaker 11: I thought that was the whole reason for them being
- 1:34:21Speaker 11: kept out of the Battle Royal there, because they were
- 1:34:25Speaker 11: gonna interfere. But I guess, as as we've seen any times.
- 1:34:31Speaker 6: I m hm, that's right. What about you?
- 1:34:39Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, after the preview episode, Doyle really had
- 1:34:41Speaker 3: me sol sold on the no contest, you know, massive
- 1:34:46Speaker 3: interference finished. I was. I thought that was some rather
- 1:34:50Speaker 3: inspired booking, which you know, in light of what we
- 1:34:54Speaker 3: actually got, kind of makes the booking. The outcome that
- 1:34:58Speaker 3: we did get seemed rather safe, I guess by comparison.
- 1:35:05Speaker 3: And as far as the match itself, I can't really
- 1:35:08Speaker 3: say too much about the match because I fell asleep
- 1:35:11Speaker 3: halfway through it, So maybe that speaks to the entertainment
- 1:35:15Speaker 3: value of the match itself that it didn't really keep
- 1:35:18Speaker 3: me up all the way to the end. But to
- 1:35:20Speaker 3: find out that basically it was just a one v
- 1:35:24Speaker 3: one and Punk one clean after two gts's, It's like, okay, well,
- 1:35:32Speaker 3: congrats to Punk, glad you champion. Now now what yeah,
- 1:35:40Speaker 3: you know, we are we gonna call his are we
- 1:35:43Speaker 3: gonna call his title reign boring after two or three
- 1:35:45Speaker 3: months of him just having regular title defenses. We shall see.
- 1:35:56Speaker 3: I mean, it'll be interested, I guess to see where
- 1:35:59Speaker 3: Jay goes from here, because I think the I think
- 1:36:06Speaker 3: the reactions of the IWC is maybe starting to get
- 1:36:12Speaker 3: to him because we saw him tweet after the match
- 1:36:16Speaker 3: basically y'all win with a middle finger emoji, which some
- 1:36:20Speaker 3: people thought was possibly signaling a heel turn from Jay.
- 1:36:24Speaker 3: But based upon what happened Monday.
- 1:36:27Speaker 8: He shooting or is he work shooting?
- 1:36:29Speaker 3: That's the thing. Yeah, Like we don't know. I mean,
- 1:36:33Speaker 3: based upon what happened Monday, you know, it seems that
- 1:36:36Speaker 3: he's still, at least for now, Punk's friend and a
- 1:36:40Speaker 3: baby face for now. But is this just a setup
- 1:36:44Speaker 3: for him to eventually turn heel at some point or
- 1:36:47Speaker 3: who knows? Honestly, at this point, I think Jay probably
- 1:36:51Speaker 3: should turn heel, but I highly doubt that's going to
- 1:36:56Speaker 3: happen because there's very he's very much much in an
- 1:37:00Speaker 3: awkward place where fans at the arena love him, but
- 1:37:06Speaker 3: the Internet hates him, and we haven't seen I don't
- 1:37:11Speaker 3: know that we've ever seen really any translates like this
- 1:37:15Speaker 3: for any wrestler for this long. Usually when the Internet
- 1:37:20Speaker 3: starts to turn on a wrestler, it starts to translate
- 1:37:23Speaker 3: over to the crowd and live events as well, where
- 1:37:26Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, the Internet dumps on them. Then you
- 1:37:28Speaker 3: start to see the booze and all that stuff. It's
- 1:37:31Speaker 3: not so much happening with Jay. The Internet dumps on
- 1:37:35Speaker 3: them every chance they get, But as soon as that
- 1:37:37Speaker 3: music hits, everybody's cheering at the arena. Now, I did
- 1:37:42Speaker 3: happen to notice a little bit less, a little bit
- 1:37:45Speaker 3: more of a lukewarm reaction to Jay. So maybe it
- 1:37:49Speaker 3: is starting to happen. It's just happening at a much
- 1:37:52Speaker 3: slower pace because of how dynamic and how energeticus interest
- 1:37:56Speaker 3: theme is. Maybe that's the case, and maybe we're just
- 1:38:00Speaker 3: it's a much slower burn to Jay's He'll turn Because
- 1:38:03Speaker 3: I do think it is gonna happen at some point.
- 1:38:05Speaker 3: I think it's pretty much inevitable, but we shall see.
- 1:38:12Speaker 3: But at this point, I'm definitely of the mindset that
- 1:38:15Speaker 3: he probably should just go ahead and turn heel.
- 1:38:22Speaker 6: All right, Tyler, let's say.
- 1:38:27Speaker 9: Yeah, uh so to cap off the night. I don't
- 1:38:35Speaker 9: think it was.
- 1:38:37Speaker 17: It was a main event worthy match for the heavyweight Championship,
- 1:38:42Speaker 17: but the performance that you got four said championship.
- 1:38:48Speaker 9: Didn't you know, it didn't jive, you know, the everything
- 1:38:56Speaker 9: that we got out of the Triple Threat match.
- 1:38:59Speaker 17: It should have been in a one v one, should
- 1:39:03Speaker 17: have been in that match, and it just wasn't there.
- 1:39:05Speaker 17: I don't know if that's coming across properly, like the energy,
- 1:39:11Speaker 17: the excitement, the unpredictability.
- 1:39:17Speaker 9: I do agree with Doyle that Jay was sluggish.
- 1:39:20Speaker 17: For a majority of not the whole match, you know,
- 1:39:25Speaker 17: and my to what Dre alluded to with the two
- 1:39:29Speaker 17: go to sleeps, and this is my issue also with
- 1:39:32Speaker 17: Cody Rhodes, is what is the point of it being
- 1:39:35Speaker 17: a finisher if it takes two or three times for
- 1:39:38Speaker 17: you to put the opponent down with that same move.
- 1:39:43Speaker 17: You know, It's been an ongoing thing that I've noticed recently,
- 1:39:48Speaker 17: and it's it's frustrating every time because it's like, you know,
- 1:39:51Speaker 17: it didn't work the first time didn't work the second time,
- 1:39:55Speaker 17: you know, and I think, yeah, yeah, you know, so
- 1:40:02Speaker 17: that's that that frustrated me.
- 1:40:04Speaker 9: But uh see him punk winning.
- 1:40:08Speaker 17: I was happy about uh jay I. I understand that
- 1:40:13Speaker 17: he has like a huge fan base, and you know,
- 1:40:16Speaker 17: everybody's hyped on Jay.
- 1:40:18Speaker 8: You know.
- 1:40:19Speaker 9: I think he needs some more work in some way,
- 1:40:23Speaker 9: shape or form. I don't know.
- 1:40:24Speaker 17: I can't put my finger on what it is before
- 1:40:26Speaker 17: he can get like a lengthy title run. But performance aside,
- 1:40:33Speaker 17: I'm happy with the outcome, just you know, wish there
- 1:40:37Speaker 17: was a little bit more pop into performance to justify it.
- 1:40:43Speaker 8: Excuse me.
- 1:40:49Speaker 28: Yeah, I'm kind of getting tired of the spot where
- 1:40:54Speaker 28: uh punk, uh punk hits the go to sleep and
- 1:40:57Speaker 28: the guy hits the ropes or whatever and then collapses
- 1:41:00Speaker 28: back on the punk shoulders.
- 1:41:02Speaker 11: And they hit him a gay like it's cool once
- 1:41:04Speaker 11: in a while, but when he does it every fucking match,
- 1:41:07Speaker 11: or like what he seems like he's doing now, it's
- 1:41:10Speaker 11: get old.
- 1:41:10Speaker 6: Or using the gts and they roll out the ring
- 1:41:13Speaker 6: right away.
- 1:41:14Speaker 3: Yeah, that one is a little old.
- 1:41:18Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought
- 1:41:20Speaker 6: about this mass being lackluster and and just boring.
- 1:41:26Speaker 8: I mean I was too long.
- 1:41:28Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean like this whole pay per view was
- 1:41:31Speaker 6: just like, you know, I think honestly, maybe.
- 1:41:37Speaker 8: It was weird.
- 1:41:38Speaker 11: Yeah, and it was weird that they were It was
- 1:41:40Speaker 11: weird that they were back on Peacock kind.
- 1:41:42Speaker 12: Of like oh yeah, yeah, right, I don't know.
- 1:41:45Speaker 11: It was like I don't know it, and you were
- 1:41:49Speaker 11: broken up with the girl, then you like get back
- 1:41:51Speaker 11: together with her whatever, and it's it's the same, but
- 1:41:53Speaker 11: it's weird.
- 1:41:55Speaker 3: I mean, that's the awkwardness. Yeah, that's the awkwardness. Negotiations
- 1:42:01Speaker 3: though you're still like.
- 1:42:05Speaker 6: That could also be why to this is so lackluster
- 1:42:07Speaker 6: because they know it's on Peacock. They know it's like, Okay,
- 1:42:11Speaker 6: we don't have to give it our best of the
- 1:42:13Speaker 6: best because it's on on ESPN Plus, like we're out
- 1:42:17Speaker 6: of here.
- 1:42:17Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's Saturday night main event.
- 1:42:20Speaker 3: They've they've all been rather safe and boring from the
- 1:42:24Speaker 3: very beginning.
- 1:42:25Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:42:25Speaker 11: Yeah, and I'm gonna stop falling for it eventually, but
- 1:42:29Speaker 11: I guess not this Lea.
- 1:42:32Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the only reason why we thought that
- 1:42:34Speaker 3: this one was going to be more I think the
- 1:42:35Speaker 3: only reason why we we had more interest in this
- 1:42:37Speaker 3: one as opposed to past ones is because one, they
- 1:42:41Speaker 3: were all title matches and yeah, and there was actually
- 1:42:46Speaker 3: strong speculation that we were going to get new champions, well,
- 1:42:51Speaker 3: definitely going to get a new champion, given that one
- 1:42:52Speaker 3: of them matches was for a vacant title. And then
- 1:42:56Speaker 3: obviously we all had the expectation of Jade Cargill was
- 1:43:00Speaker 3: going to win the uh the Women's Championship from Tiffany Stratton,
- 1:43:07Speaker 3: and there were probably some people who were holding out
- 1:43:09Speaker 3: hope that maybe Drew was gonna dethrown Cody. So that
- 1:43:13Speaker 3: probably what added a little bit more intrigue in this
- 1:43:16Speaker 3: main event as opposed to past once. But history has
- 1:43:19Speaker 3: told us they pretty much play it safe all the
- 1:43:22Speaker 3: time for purposes. That's basically what we got here.
- 1:43:30Speaker 17: Yeah, if if Saturday Night main event was like in
- 1:43:33Speaker 17: the same caliber as like a WrestleMania or a Summer Slam, like,
- 1:43:38Speaker 17: they would probably be like a little bit more like Okay,
- 1:43:40Speaker 17: hey go and do you you know, just know what
- 1:43:44Speaker 17: you gotta do?
- 1:43:46Speaker 3: Excuse me, Yeah, they need to do they need to
- 1:43:53Speaker 3: do something to Saturday. I made events to make them
- 1:43:56Speaker 3: interesting and just not just be this safe showcase that
- 1:44:01Speaker 3: they always end up being all.
- 1:44:03Speaker 6: The next one definitely won't be because the next one,
- 1:44:06Speaker 6: the only match on there is John Cena versus the
- 1:44:09Speaker 6: Last Time is Now tournament.
- 1:44:12Speaker 3: That's yeah, which, yeah, that tells me that all of
- 1:44:18Speaker 3: them are probably going to be fairly safe matches as well,
- 1:44:23Speaker 3: because all the hype is going to be behind there's
- 1:44:27Speaker 3: going to be in this Sena match. So I don't
- 1:44:30Speaker 3: expect anything major to happen in those other three matches
- 1:44:34Speaker 3: right now. I guess there's probably gonna be another four
- 1:44:36Speaker 3: match card. They're probably gonna wrap those matches up within
- 1:44:40Speaker 3: the first at the very least hour and fifteen minutes,
- 1:44:44Speaker 3: I think so. I think they're gonna probably want to
- 1:44:46Speaker 3: devote at least the last forty five minutes of the
- 1:44:50Speaker 3: show to John Cena's retirement, not saying the match itself
- 1:44:54Speaker 3: is going to be forty five minutes, but between yeah, entrances,
- 1:45:00Speaker 3: the introductions, the match yourself, and then obviously the finale
- 1:45:05Speaker 3: once it's over, clearly they're gonna want to get.
- 1:45:10Speaker 8: Cut him off like they did to go over.
- 1:45:12Speaker 3: Hell no, I think they're gonna have it planned out
- 1:45:15Speaker 3: much better, unless for some reason, the match itself runs
- 1:45:18Speaker 3: long for some reason to where they're left with no
- 1:45:20Speaker 3: choice but to cut it short. That I was gonna say, yeah,
- 1:45:26Speaker 3: given that they're not on NBC, they should not have
- 1:45:28Speaker 3: to do that, don't.
- 1:45:32Speaker 11: I don't know what the contract now the contract looks yeah,
- 1:45:39Speaker 11: what you say?
- 1:45:42Speaker 9: No, I was apologizing for cutting you off now.
- 1:45:45Speaker 17: I was just saying, uh, if Johnson gets a full speech,
- 1:45:49Speaker 17: like I can just see what the Bill Golbert tweet
- 1:45:51Speaker 17: is now, you know.
- 1:45:52Speaker 11: Just in my head, I can't wait for the Brett
- 1:45:58Speaker 11: Hart's response to the Bill gold tweet about John Cen
- 1:46:01Speaker 11: and not getting come off.
- 1:46:05Speaker 8: What the hell is I evenna say.
- 1:46:07Speaker 11: Oh, I don't know what the contract looks like, but
- 1:46:09Speaker 11: if it's if it's ends soon, I kind of.
- 1:46:11Speaker 12: Hope that we just stop doing Saturday Night.
- 1:46:14Speaker 8: It's Saturday. I keep on to say Saturday Live. God
- 1:46:17Speaker 8: damn it, Saturday Night's main event. I kind of hope
- 1:46:20Speaker 8: that it's the.
- 1:46:20Speaker 11: Contract ends soon, or even if it doesn't in for
- 1:46:22Speaker 11: two years or whatever.
- 1:46:24Speaker 8: I kind of hope this is an.
- 1:46:25Speaker 12: Experiment we don't continue as but it's over.
- 1:46:29Speaker 8: I don't think we need it.
- 1:46:30Speaker 3: Well, at the very least, we know we're getting one
- 1:46:32Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six, because there's another after the John
- 1:46:35Speaker 3: Cena won. The next Saturay Night main event is a
- 1:46:38Speaker 3: week before the twenty twenty sixth Royal Rumble.
- 1:46:42Speaker 11: It's still weird how they're all like bang bang bang
- 1:46:44Speaker 11: in a row, and then they don't have one for
- 1:46:46Speaker 11: seven months, and then they have three and two months,
- 1:46:50Speaker 11: and then you don't have one again.
- 1:46:52Speaker 8: It's just the whole thing. Is I think I'm over it.
- 1:46:58Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point, WW has too many plis. I
- 1:47:05Speaker 3: think there's one takeaway from twenty twenty five is that
- 1:47:08Speaker 3: there are two many premium live events.
- 1:47:14Speaker 8: Totally agree.
- 1:47:16Speaker 6: Yeah, too fucking many. Yeah. We had a Saturday night
- 1:47:20Speaker 6: main event January. That main event was Schoonther versus jay
- 1:47:23Speaker 6: Usa for the world title. Then we had one in May.
- 1:47:27Speaker 6: That main event was j Uso versus Logan Paul for
- 1:47:32Speaker 6: the world title. Then we had the one in July
- 1:47:36Speaker 6: that's when Gunther defeated Goldberg for the world title, and
- 1:47:41Speaker 6: then we had this one Punk versus j Uso. J
- 1:47:44Speaker 6: Us has been kind of like the highlight of most
- 1:47:46Speaker 6: of these all year, although jay Usa was not on, Yeah,
- 1:47:56Speaker 6: he was not on the one in July, and then Yeah,
- 1:48:01Speaker 6: then we got this one December, and then yeah, another
- 1:48:05Speaker 6: one in January, and Quebec just keeps going. It's endless.
- 1:48:11Speaker 6: They're gonna definitely surpass WrestleMania's because this next one will
- 1:48:15Speaker 6: be forty two. So it's insane, funny, insane. Our next
- 1:48:24Speaker 6: pay per view is Survivors' series War Games. Guys, it's
- 1:48:30Speaker 6: definitely kind of early. I honestly, I have no idea
- 1:48:37Speaker 6: men or women, what teams they're doing.
- 1:48:41Speaker 3: I mean, I don't, Well, they kind of started setting
- 1:48:43Speaker 3: up Monday on what the What we're probably gonna get
- 1:48:46Speaker 3: is some combination of Team Vision, which looks like Bron Bronson, Logan, Paul,
- 1:48:53Speaker 3: probably Brock Lesner and maybe one other person against Punk Jay,
- 1:49:01Speaker 3: Jimmy Roman and maybe l A. Knight of some sort.
- 1:49:05Speaker 3: It's gonna be just you know, standard top baby faces here,
- 1:49:09Speaker 3: top ill factioned here, throw them together match.
- 1:49:12Speaker 12: Yeh see seeing it getting slotted in there just because he's.
- 1:49:16Speaker 11: Never done it, Yep, you don't really need to work
- 1:49:20Speaker 11: him into the story for you know, I think I think, hey,
- 1:49:23Speaker 11: Johnsena wants to do it, Let's get him is enough?
- 1:49:26Speaker 3: I think, yeah, And plus he needs to get his
- 1:49:28Speaker 3: look back, and probably he get his look back from
- 1:49:30Speaker 3: getting his asked well by Lessler.
- 1:49:33Speaker 8: There you go. I hadn't even thought of that, true,
- 1:49:36Speaker 8: absolutely right.
- 1:49:37Speaker 3: Yeah, but that'll probably be it, And that's how you
- 1:49:40Speaker 3: get see it on the PO without him having to
- 1:49:43Speaker 3: work a singles match and put him at risk of
- 1:49:46Speaker 3: injury before his big match, his final match. That's the
- 1:49:51Speaker 3: way to get him safely on the show working probably.
- 1:49:59Speaker 11: I think I think I thought we were going for
- 1:50:01Speaker 11: Seth's roman Mania. I think maybe we do Punk Roman
- 1:50:05Speaker 11: now and you can even start that story here.
- 1:50:11Speaker 8: If they're on the team together.
- 1:50:14Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the truth. Might not even get Roman in
- 1:50:16Speaker 3: this match. Yeah, there's not really much.
- 1:50:20Speaker 6: Reason I think you have so well, yeah, I guess.
- 1:50:23Speaker 3: I kind of have to because he does still have beef.
- 1:50:25Speaker 11: With the Yeah, with the whole anything Hayman related.
- 1:50:30Speaker 8: That I think.
- 1:50:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a which I guess. Then you
- 1:50:38Speaker 3: have Jimmy or l. A. Knight I guess would sit
- 1:50:40Speaker 3: it out. It probably be Jimmy, I would think maybe
- 1:50:44Speaker 3: the one left out because you have Punk Jay Roman,
- 1:50:50Speaker 3: Sena l A. Knight that's a pretty strong babyfaced team,
- 1:50:56Speaker 3: and then Bron Bron's and Logan Paul rock Lesler and
- 1:51:07Speaker 3: a fifth.
- 1:51:10Speaker 8: Y tell Bronton Reid not to go off the top
- 1:51:12Speaker 8: of the cage this time.
- 1:51:13Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure he'll stay off the top of the cages.
- 1:51:16Speaker 3: That's what Logan Paul is there for. Logan Paul can do.
- 1:51:19Speaker 8: What the hell? I don't know what the women are
- 1:51:21Speaker 8: gonna do.
- 1:51:23Speaker 12: I mean, I guess it's gonna be I guess it's
- 1:51:25Speaker 12: gonna be.
- 1:51:26Speaker 11: EO and Ria versus the KOBOOKI Warriors somehow, right.
- 1:51:30Speaker 8: Plus I don't know.
- 1:51:33Speaker 6: Maybe one maybe they won't have one.
- 1:51:37Speaker 3: They're gonna have one. No, they will. You know, they're
- 1:51:40Speaker 3: gonna force that ship to happen.
- 1:51:43Speaker 8: Yeah, they really like Wargames has already gotten to the point.
- 1:51:47Speaker 11: That the chamber was when they it's time for elimination
- 1:51:52Speaker 11: chamber of pay per views, So we have to have
- 1:51:54Speaker 11: an eliminated or not elimination chamber.
- 1:51:56Speaker 8: I'm sorry.
- 1:51:57Speaker 3: Hell yeah.
- 1:51:59Speaker 11: And it's like, luckily the past couple of years we've
- 1:52:02Speaker 11: kind of had natural stories there, but I feel like
- 1:52:04Speaker 11: this year there just isn't.
- 1:52:06Speaker 8: And they're both both men's and women's matches.
- 1:52:08Speaker 12: Are going to be like really kind of sports, you know.
- 1:52:13Speaker 11: Uh, And it's just like why Like, why why are
- 1:52:16Speaker 11: we Why don't we just bring it out when we
- 1:52:18Speaker 11: have something that's organically there instead of forcing it every
- 1:52:21Speaker 11: year because it's November.
- 1:52:23Speaker 3: Because marketing and money and dollars and t KO.
- 1:52:26Speaker 12: Yeah, so to change this is the exact same thing
- 1:52:31Speaker 12: with hell in the Cell.
- 1:52:32Speaker 3: Yeah, and eventually they're going to realize, Okay, this is
- 1:52:35Speaker 3: not working. Nobody's interested. But we'll say, but then again,
- 1:52:41Speaker 3: if they're still charging through the fucking roof for tickets
- 1:52:43Speaker 3: and the ships are still selling, they have no reason
- 1:52:46Speaker 3: to not continue to do it.
- 1:52:48Speaker 8: Yeah, that's true. Get away with it.
- 1:52:52Speaker 11: I was just gonna say, you get away with it
- 1:52:53Speaker 11: with the with the rumble and the elimination chamber because that.
- 1:52:58Speaker 8: Produced the Wrestlemannia made.
- 1:53:00Speaker 11: A Venta or whatever, right right, Yeah, Yeah, So it's
- 1:53:03Speaker 11: not like a force We're going to force ten people
- 1:53:06Speaker 11: into this cage or whatever.
- 1:53:07Speaker 8: You know.
- 1:53:08Speaker 3: No, they're they're pretty much part of the it's part
- 1:53:10Speaker 3: of the process. It's part of the road to wrestle Meania.
- 1:53:13Speaker 3: That's that's a baked in process. It's like the playoffs,
- 1:53:16Speaker 3: you know, they're you know, you're getting them every year
- 1:53:19Speaker 3: we take the play in. Yeah, like like the the
- 1:53:24Speaker 3: War Games thing is absolutely forced. But like I said,
- 1:53:27Speaker 3: if if as long as they charge out the ass
- 1:53:30Speaker 3: for it and them tickets sell out, because that's where
- 1:53:32Speaker 3: they're gonna make the most of their money, then it's
- 1:53:34Speaker 3: not like in the past where they had to rely
- 1:53:35Speaker 3: on pay per view by rates, so they had to
- 1:53:38Speaker 3: create a show that was worth people tuning in for
- 1:53:41Speaker 3: you know, it's it's already pretty much baked in to
- 1:53:43Speaker 3: deal with ESPN. So you know, if if so too
- 1:53:47Speaker 3: many people tune in, then you know, which obviously is
- 1:53:52Speaker 3: probably not going to be the case. But I mean,
- 1:53:53Speaker 3: if don't too many people tune in, then maybe only
- 1:53:56Speaker 3: ESPN's upset for the moment. But if they but their
- 1:54:01Speaker 3: money is going to be on you know, selling the
- 1:54:04Speaker 3: ship out of the show or at the gate.
- 1:54:06Speaker 11: They are always looking at the next contract also, Yeah,
- 1:54:10Speaker 11: so I mean and something You're right.
- 1:54:13Speaker 12: That they don't have to worry about inner individual by.
- 1:54:15Speaker 8: Rates anymore like they used to.
- 1:54:17Speaker 11: They still do need to get feeble to watch because
- 1:54:20Speaker 11: otherwise the next next time the contract shop.
- 1:54:23Speaker 8: You know, they won't get as much.
- 1:54:25Speaker 3: Yeah, in a macro sense, yes, they do still need
- 1:54:28Speaker 3: to get keep the numbers at a certain level. But
- 1:54:32Speaker 3: if they at the you know number of these years
- 1:54:35Speaker 3: ESPN side, Oh we don't want to do this thing.
- 1:54:39Speaker 3: W W could easily go right back to Peacock say hey,
- 1:54:43Speaker 3: you want to get the old thing back, and Peacock,
- 1:54:47Speaker 3: if if they even still exist at that point, might
- 1:54:51Speaker 3: be chopping at the bin, be like, yes, please help
- 1:54:53Speaker 3: us or whoever whatever. You know, as long as the
- 1:54:57Speaker 3: product remains hot, they'll find there there will be a
- 1:55:00Speaker 3: buy or for it. Yeah.
- 1:55:03Speaker 11: Well, I think you made a point that I don't
- 1:55:04Speaker 11: know that we've ever covered before.
- 1:55:06Speaker 12: And then it's just how often the streaming world changes, you.
- 1:55:09Speaker 27: Know, like and and what even exists today may not
- 1:55:13Speaker 27: tomorrow or may have merged with three other things next week,
- 1:55:17Speaker 27: you know, so who the fuck knows what any of
- 1:55:19Speaker 27: this looks like next time.
- 1:55:21Speaker 8: I mean, they just switched the contract show.
- 1:55:22Speaker 11: I'm assuming it's three four years or whatever it is,
- 1:55:25Speaker 11: but looks like that, Yeah, it looks like that.
- 1:55:33Speaker 8: Who knows what the world looks like that exactly.
- 1:55:37Speaker 6: It'll be back in the hands of Vincent man.
- 1:55:42Speaker 8: Might we might be tuning in with an antenna or something, right?
- 1:55:47Speaker 3: I mean, if I could make an argument for any
- 1:55:49Speaker 3: streaming service not in existence for four or five years
- 1:55:52Speaker 3: from now, I can see it being peacock. Yeah, some
- 1:55:56Speaker 3: of them you can pretty much guarantee you that they
- 1:55:58Speaker 3: are probably not going anywhere. Some of these you can
- 1:56:01Speaker 3: make a strong argument that they mought now survive.
- 1:56:07Speaker 6: So Fellas, this is all I don't care. We're making
- 1:56:11Speaker 6: this our ninety nine and a half episode just because
- 1:56:18Speaker 6: we just we just did not have time to get
- 1:56:20Speaker 6: together all the stuff we want to get together for
- 1:56:24Speaker 6: our one hundredth episode. You know, I do want to
- 1:56:27Speaker 6: point out a few things if you want to go
- 1:56:31Speaker 6: back and listen to certain episodes. We do a lot
- 1:56:36Speaker 6: of interviews. We had Eric from Agriculture Accu Articulation Station.
- 1:56:45Speaker 6: That was episode forty five. I want to listen to
- 1:56:48Speaker 6: Eric Drew Davis episode sixty two, Ron Deep been aedetto
- 1:56:55Speaker 6: episode seventy five. Hoovey your episode, Buddy and Tyler episode
- 1:57:02Speaker 6: ninety five.
- 1:57:05Speaker 8: Yep.
- 1:57:06Speaker 6: Yeah, So you want to go back and listen to
- 1:57:09Speaker 6: a few episodes before we discussed about, you know, our
- 1:57:12Speaker 6: one hundredth episode, Go back and check those out. Even
- 1:57:15Speaker 6: there's one episode, just one that I I guess everybody
- 1:57:20Speaker 6: was sick or something and I had to get some news,
- 1:57:22Speaker 6: and I did on an episode by myself. That was
- 1:57:24Speaker 6: episode seventy. I can't believe I actually pulled the whole
- 1:57:30Speaker 6: episode off by myself and it worked out pretty well.
- 1:57:34Speaker 6: But yeah, we'll chat more about that next episode. We
- 1:57:37Speaker 6: just wanted to get this out there because we know
- 1:57:40Speaker 6: people like Carlos and Dwayne and Dave and you know,
- 1:57:44Speaker 6: a bunch of other listeners are curious, what the fuck
- 1:57:47Speaker 6: where's the review? Don't make us wait more than a week. Okay, well,
- 1:57:51Speaker 6: here it is, so we'll give you a We'll chime
- 1:57:54Speaker 6: in again next week. We'll see if we can get
- 1:57:56Speaker 6: other people on here. If if you want to be
- 1:58:00Speaker 6: on or you want to write to the show and
- 1:58:02Speaker 6: have us read out something for the legit one hundredth episode,
- 1:58:07Speaker 6: and so be it. So But with that said, like, Dre,
- 1:58:11Speaker 6: do you have anything you want to plug before you
- 1:58:13Speaker 6: leave with your rasp? My voice.
- 1:58:16Speaker 3: Ain't plugging shit, but Alcus, also.
- 1:58:26Speaker 6: You want to plug anything?
- 1:58:28Speaker 1: Uh?
- 1:58:29Speaker 11: Yeah, just I'm in the discord where I post pictures
- 1:58:31Speaker 11: of twenty five year old pictures of me and uh
- 1:58:36Speaker 11: G level celebrity.
- 1:58:39Speaker 12: And uh and uh yeah, I give the Facebook a like?
- 1:58:44Speaker 6: All right, Tyler, do you want to plug anything.
- 1:58:49Speaker 9: Uh no, I have nothing to plug. Just hey, be good,
- 1:58:53Speaker 9: be kind to each other. You know, live life, do
- 1:58:56Speaker 9: you and be kind of one another?
- 1:59:00Speaker 6: All right?
- 1:59:00Speaker 9: Man?
- 1:59:01Speaker 6: Wise words, So we'll see it back again, buddy.
- 1:59:08Speaker 9: I appreciate it.
- 1:59:08Speaker 17: Man, I loved every moment of it, and I look
- 1:59:11Speaker 17: forward to coming back in the future.
- 1:59:13Speaker 6: All right, Peter, let's get out her. Uh let's run
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