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TMCP Ep 2: Paul vs Tyson and Mailbag · The Mixed Company Podcast

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  Speaker 1: In this corner standing it six foot five, weight class
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  Speaker 1: unknown hailing from Sin City, Las Vegas, Jamison Welch and
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  Speaker 1: in this corner standing it five foot nine, Wayne Town
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  Speaker 1: with six wins.
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  Speaker 2: Three losses, two arrests, four late.
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  Speaker 3: Payments on student loans.
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  Speaker 1: And two total bankruptcies hits the classy I've a HOLI.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, tuning in to another I'm total mixed company.
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  Speaker 4: I'm your fellows Jamison Vels, joined by the classy alcoholic
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  Speaker 4: what's up?
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  Speaker 2: It's you boy, the classic alcoholic Arizona booth blogger, heavy
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  Speaker 2: drinking enthusiast, hangover connoisseur, and now illustrious sports commentator.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, and we're back. Had a good debut. So
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  Speaker 4: it's toward the end of the year. Now, very rarely
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  Speaker 4: get a whole lot of box end of the year
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  Speaker 4: boxing's more of a first three quarter of the year sport.
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  Speaker 4: Every now and then you get some good ones up
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  Speaker 4: and the U but most likely it's January through about
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  Speaker 4: October where you get all your stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: But now we're here back, You're gonna go over a
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  Speaker 4: couple of things. But we have this, you know, this
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  Speaker 4: Tyson fight coming up, and you know I'm old we'll
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  Speaker 4: kind of old. But I'm thirty eight. So when a tyson,
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  Speaker 4: my heirs tyson fight, it's a little different. It brings
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  Speaker 4: back a lot of memories. It brings back the nineties,
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  Speaker 4: big back TVs, illegal, cable, quick fights, fight parties, the
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  Speaker 4: whole nine.
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  Speaker 2: This ain't that, but I think that's what they're going for.
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  Speaker 4: This is a situation where you know this is gonna
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  Speaker 4: be a little bit different. It's technically an exhibition, but
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  Speaker 4: it's not like, what are your thoughts about this, this
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  Speaker 4: so called fight we got coming up?
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  Speaker 2: Well, first things first, that we're going to talk about this,
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  Speaker 2: uh this fight, I'm gonna need a drink.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, do what you do? What what are you drinking?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: As still with my goal to get Canelo to sponsor us.
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  Speaker 2: This is the VMC tequila cocktail. It's a Paloma. So
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  Speaker 2: okayll OVMC call us. I don't care if I come
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  Speaker 2: off like a thirsty bitch. Literally, please sponsor us.
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  Speaker 4: Understood, understood? Not I'd be cool always cane turnhow sponsors
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  Speaker 4: on a handful? I would do, but I would would
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  Speaker 4: not turn down manythings.
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  Speaker 2: So, so yeah, about this fight. Uh so we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about Tyson fighting Uh. YouTuber Jake Paul. He and his
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  Speaker 2: brother Logan Paul, started off his YouTube stars, you know,
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  Speaker 2: buying celebrities, got into boxing a few years ago. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, they're They're very popular, they have a big
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  Speaker 2: fan base, they make a lot of money. They had
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  Speaker 2: a lot of money. They make a lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: And we recently saw Logan Paul fight Floyd Mayweather in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. Uh, And this is kind of in
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  Speaker 2: the same vein get somebody a fan favorite cashing on
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  Speaker 2: the nostalgia. I gotta be honest, man, I don't don't
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  Speaker 2: like those dudes. I think they're I don't like their personas.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're smug. I am just I'm not a fan.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care that they made their money on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a lot of grampys will say like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: these kids, they're TikTok celebrities and YouTube celebrities, that none
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  Speaker 2: of that matters. I just don't think they're very likable.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll just say when it comes to them as boxers,
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  Speaker 2: I think they bought their way in. They had their fame.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't work their way up to become boxers, and
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  Speaker 2: they I think they're hacks. I think as boxers, they're hacks.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm I'm not going to be total you know,
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  Speaker 2: throwing hate left and right. I do have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of more to say about this, but I'm not a
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  Speaker 2: fan of these exhibition fights that these guys put on,
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  Speaker 2: and I just I just don't think it's I just
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  Speaker 2: don't think it benefits the sport.
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  Speaker 3: I'll say that, so I'm with you.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's more of a situation where it's more
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  Speaker 4: for like marketing and branding more than anything is not
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  Speaker 4: actual boxing. I think it's like in kind of exposing
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  Speaker 4: exploring things. Let's just say, you're exploiting, you know, old
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  Speaker 4: MMA guys, exploring old guys that really aren't the top
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  Speaker 4: like path No more so to me.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like I have a rule like I don't
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  Speaker 3: pay for any of these kind of exhibitions.
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  Speaker 4: If I see the highlights somewhere, if I see an
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  Speaker 4: illegal link somewhere or.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever, allegedly allegedly speaking.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, if someone got a fire stick and
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  Speaker 4: the stream is good, I might, you know, I might
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  Speaker 4: rock with it. I might do some stuff with it.
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  Speaker 4: But other than that, I'm not interested in these Like
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  Speaker 4: I get the masses, and you know, we're boxing people,
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  Speaker 4: So this is not for us.
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  Speaker 3: This is for the casual person that.
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  Speaker 4: Will tune in because they're familiar with the YouTuber and
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  Speaker 4: they're familiar with Mike Tyson. This is not for boxing
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  Speaker 4: purists unfortunately.
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  Speaker 2: But isn't isn't that going to be a draw for
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  Speaker 2: boxing fans? I mean again, you just talked about the
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  Speaker 2: Tyson days that are that they try to draw in
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  Speaker 2: the old fans, same thing with the Mayweather fans. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna get their YouTube what do you ca YouTube
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  Speaker 2: fandom following them? But how many more guys like us
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  Speaker 2: that are a little less against this type of thing
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  Speaker 2: gonna tune in and pay for this because they want
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  Speaker 2: to see Mike back in the ring. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: think they're gonna get a big, a big hole. Oh no,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's on Netflix right, Yes, it is November fifteenth, so.
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  Speaker 3: You already know what it is.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a situation where that that bags are being guaranteed.
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  Speaker 4: They already know what's going on when it's on. When
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  Speaker 4: Netflix goes into something, they don't take losses. Netflix don't
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  Speaker 4: go into a situation where, oh, we're gonna take an
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  Speaker 4: l on this. Nah, they know what this is, So
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  Speaker 4: I'll just put it this way. They're both gonna make
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  Speaker 4: a lot of money. I hope no one has any
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  Speaker 4: financial struggles. You know, Mike has always been rumored to
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  Speaker 4: have financial issues one we or another. But that being said,
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna be a good day for both of them
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  Speaker 4: and for all the sponsors that everybody involved.
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  Speaker 2: So it is what it is well, And the conversation
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  Speaker 2: that keeps coming up, the cliche conversation that I see
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  Speaker 2: online is when these two dudes come up, somebody on
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  Speaker 2: Instagram will say are they good for the sport or bad?
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  Speaker 2: And there's always only two responses. One is no, they're
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  Speaker 2: not good for the sport because they're not real boxers.
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  Speaker 2: The other one is they're good because they bring a
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  Speaker 2: lot of new people into the sport. But I just
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  Speaker 2: want to not have that cliched conversation. I think, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, if these guys said, we're gonna put on
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  Speaker 2: a fun showcase boxing fans who you know, miss Mike,
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  Speaker 2: who miss Floyd want to see him in the ring,
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna have a good time. You're gonna tune in.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be a lot of fun, I would respect a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more. But they think they're the shit. You know,
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  Speaker 2: even Jesus, I keep getting them mixed up back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: But it's Jake Paul. I'm sorry. He had an interview
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  Speaker 2: where he was saying like, when I hang up my gloves,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be one of the greatest of all time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the face of boxing, blah blah blah, which, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of boxers are very braggadocious. But he's just smug.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's been fighting for only a handful of
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  Speaker 2: years and again fought former m guys. He fought an
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  Speaker 2: NBA player that.
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  Speaker 3: I remember remember to seeing people talking about online.
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  Speaker 2: So if they just said we're gonna have a good time,
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna you know, Mike's gonna get paid. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get paid, come on down and check this out, I'd
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  Speaker 2: be cool with it. I'd be like, Okay, But I
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  Speaker 2: don't I really can't tell if these guys are truly
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  Speaker 2: high on their own supply or if it is a
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  Speaker 2: marketing thing. And does yeah, I know Mike has been
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  Speaker 2: rumored to have, you know, financial struggles, but does he
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  Speaker 2: really need did he miss a card payment? Like does
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  Speaker 2: does he really need this.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think he's good.
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  Speaker 4: Now. I know in the past there's always issues with
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  Speaker 4: taxes and whatnot, so he's always doing stuff. But with
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  Speaker 4: that being said, it's one of those situations to where
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  Speaker 4: if there's an opportunity to make a large of the
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  Speaker 4: money for one night, these guys are gonna do it.
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  Speaker 4: Floyd Mayweather has you know, to my knowledge, has a
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  Speaker 4: lot of money and he doesn't pass up these fights.
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  Speaker 4: So I get it, Like I understand. And when you're Mike,
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  Speaker 4: I think Mike is with fifty eight I who're not
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  Speaker 4: mistaken or something like that. So yeah, so the opportunities
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  Speaker 4: to make eight figures in night are not always there,
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  Speaker 4: So I get it. But we also we understand this
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  Speaker 4: is a cash grab. This is not a boxing This
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  Speaker 4: is a cash grab. This is a opportunity to make
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  Speaker 4: a lot of money in the short amount of time.
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  Speaker 4: That's all this is. Anyone else that tells you any different,
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  Speaker 4: it's trying to fool you. With that being said, though,
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  Speaker 4: I do caution those who want to fight Jake Paul
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  Speaker 4: in the future for a certain cash graph because he
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  Speaker 4: actually trains as a boxer. So if you're an NBA
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  Speaker 4: player or an NFL player that thinks you have hands.
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  Speaker 4: I suggest you get some formal training because Nate Robinson
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  Speaker 4: got embarrassed a few years back and it was not kind.
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  Speaker 4: So I do hope that if people do want to
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  Speaker 4: fight Jake in the future for that bag, at least
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  Speaker 4: come prepared well.
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  Speaker 2: With that said, I mean, what do you think Mike's
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  Speaker 2: going to do in the ring? Is he going to
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  Speaker 2: hold back or is he going to demolish this kid
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  Speaker 2: like he absolutely could.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the stamina at fifty eight, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the stamina. I don't think that the stamina
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  Speaker 4: the I mean, there was two minute rounds? Is eight rounds?
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  Speaker 3: Correct? Correct?
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  Speaker 4: So they're not in a full three minutes? Yeah, but
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  Speaker 4: still two minutes. I mean, I know we all know boxing,
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  Speaker 4: so two minutes tune round is still a long time.
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  Speaker 4: Even if Mike is working out multiple times a day.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't see the stamina while hitting and being
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  Speaker 4: you know, moving, I just don't see it. However, again,
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  Speaker 4: what kind of fight is this? This is not gonna
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  Speaker 4: be a traditional I'm trying to kill you fight. This
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  Speaker 4: is a hey, I'll hit you, but I'm not hit
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  Speaker 4: you as hard as I could when it's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: one of those situations. So, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 4: I think will be okay. I wouldn't bet on him
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  Speaker 4: to win because it's fifty eight years old. Like, that's
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  Speaker 4: just something that I just don't see happening well.
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  Speaker 2: And I think they're gonna give it to Jake Paul
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  Speaker 2: On mostly so that he can continue building his brand,
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  Speaker 2: to be quite honest with you, in regardless of what
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  Speaker 2: happens on the ring. But I don't know he I've
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  Speaker 2: seen him fight before, I've seen I saw the Logan
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  Speaker 2: Paul Mayweather fight only because Jesus and Marrow were doing
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  Speaker 2: the commentary and I'm sorry that fight was trash and
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  Speaker 2: also thes and Marrow weren't even that funny, so it
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  Speaker 2: was a total waste of my time. But these guys
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  Speaker 2: aren't good fighters.
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  Speaker 3: They're just not.
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  Speaker 2: So I think if Mike really wanted to put him,
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  Speaker 2: put him in the dirt, he could age or no,
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  Speaker 2: he can take a bunch and he's still strong as hell.
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  Speaker 2: He's gotta be come up.
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  Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: And I think here's the thing with Mike, though he
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  Speaker 4: does do it after be like in the first three rounds,
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  Speaker 4: the longer the fight goes the worst it gets for him,
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  Speaker 4: because when you get up there in age, the longer
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  Speaker 4: things go, the less you're able to do things. So
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  Speaker 4: I just don't see a situation where, hey, this fight
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  Speaker 4: is going fifth to six, seven rounds and Mike's has
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  Speaker 4: the same power energy. Sure, I don't see that. Now
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  Speaker 4: he gives them the first two rounds, we have a
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  Speaker 4: classic Tyson fight, you know scenario.
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  Speaker 2: Where he ninety seconds.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you messed around and got your your your uber
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  Speaker 4: each your grub Hub and he fight's over. Uh So
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  Speaker 4: I asked why I could see if it were to happen,
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  Speaker 4: But I'm with you. I think it's kind of not
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  Speaker 4: necessarily scripted, but it's kind of written for Jake Paul
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  Speaker 4: to win.
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  Speaker 3: In a longer fight.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think this fight would happen if anybody really
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  Speaker 2: believed that Mike would pull a classic Tyson and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: fight stunk when you when you get up to take
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  Speaker 2: a piss, honestly, But here's what here's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I think he still could. I think he can still
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  Speaker 2: pull off with this guy, with this dude. Could he
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  Speaker 2: do that too?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Like a Keishan Davis no, you know, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that's what kind of bothers me the most,
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  Speaker 2: is they the guy. You know, he's a legend, he's
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  Speaker 2: also old as hell, but if you see his training videos,
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  Speaker 2: he's also terrified. That man is terrified.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I.
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  Speaker 2: Think he could put down somebody easily that doesn't doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have the skills of a actual traditional experienced boxer who
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  Speaker 2: worked his way up. And what bums me out is
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  Speaker 2: that he's not going to do that. Mike isn't going
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  Speaker 2: to do that for this, for this showcase. So it's like,
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  Speaker 2: what what are we even doing here? But again, you
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  Speaker 2: and I both agree we're kind of not a fan
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  Speaker 2: of these things anyway, so we wouldn't watch. I guess
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  Speaker 2: maybe I'm trying to talk to the audience out there
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  Speaker 2: and say, guys, you don't have to watch this. There
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  Speaker 2: are better fights to watch.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, it's one of those situations where, to be
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  Speaker 4: honest with you, you got to watch it for entertainment purposes,
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  Speaker 4: not for boxing purposes. This is not a boxing match.
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  Speaker 4: Just is entertainment. This is an exhibition. So it's not
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  Speaker 4: like you're not you're not fighting for a belt, you're
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  Speaker 4: not fighting for pouf pound like. This is literally a
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  Speaker 4: spark match. So that's kind of what it is in
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  Speaker 4: my opinion, and as long as you take it for
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  Speaker 4: the context that it's in, you should be okay.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're that fun honestly either.
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  Speaker 3: So the trash, no, I'm with you, they are.
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  Speaker 2: Here's here's here's another point. Every time you know, these
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  Speaker 2: guys have their defender, the Paul Brothers, they have their defenders,
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  Speaker 2: and people on line say, well, you know, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they're actually good fighters. They can put guys down, they're strong,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. Why would you as a fan,
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  Speaker 2: why would you glaze these guys? There's so many other
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  Speaker 2: fighters who have been putting it, have been fighting since
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  Speaker 2: they were teenagers, you know, have been to the Olympics,
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  Speaker 2: they're pro now when they're twenty one, twenty two kids
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  Speaker 2: who work their way up. These guys again, they bought
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  Speaker 2: their way in. They use their fame, which again not
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  Speaker 2: hating on that, right, but there are so many other
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  Speaker 2: fighters that you can be a fan of follow And
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  Speaker 2: is it is it just the desire or need for
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  Speaker 2: more white boxers in the sport.
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  Speaker 3: Let's be honest man, it's always that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, whenever that's an opportunity, they're going to make
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  Speaker 4: sure that's possibility or where you know, it's also if
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  Speaker 4: it makes money.
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  Speaker 3: So if something makes money, we're all it.
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  Speaker 4: If it can provide, if it can provide amount of
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  Speaker 4: monetary value that wasn't there before, they're going to take
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  Speaker 4: full of van in it. And when you think about boxing,
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  Speaker 4: not a lot of great American white boxers out there.
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  Speaker 4: We got great American UFC fighters, but we don't have
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  Speaker 4: a lot of great white American boxers currently in this country.
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  Speaker 4: So Jake Paul sells out NBA arenas doing exhibitions. There's
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  Speaker 4: interest there. Also, whenever you're making money, people are going
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  Speaker 4: to tag onto that. Whenever there's a situation to make
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  Speaker 4: money in a lot of different way shapes or forms,
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  Speaker 4: people are going to join that party. And that's just
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  Speaker 4: how it goes. And once you do that, you get
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  Speaker 4: more sponsors, your brands get more visibility, and that's just
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  Speaker 4: how it goes. So it's more in a situation where hey,
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  Speaker 4: we're doing this, but it's helping out for the brands
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  Speaker 4: rather than it's helping out boxing.
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  Speaker 3: That's all it is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I think that I think there's a big
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  Speaker 2: issue in our country with you know, just being super
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  Speaker 2: fans of people because they have money and thinks that
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  Speaker 2: makes the better people. But that's that's a whole other conversation.
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  Speaker 2: But with that said, you know, they're going to check
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  Speaker 2: the older fans. They're going to keep bringing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: names that people used to know back in the day
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  Speaker 2: and try to keep making these exhibitions. One thing, I'll
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  Speaker 2: maybe maybe this is me giving them a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of credit. In episode one, you said that the business
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  Speaker 2: side of boxing is taking over. It's people are more
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  Speaker 2: interested in that, and then also said that not a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fighters, some fighters aren't fighting very often, so
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  Speaker 2: it's hard to for a fan, for somebody that's new
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  Speaker 2: to the sport to latch onto somebody and develop a
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  Speaker 2: favorite fighter. So I think these guys are sort of
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  Speaker 2: taking advantage in a good way of that power vacuum.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you'd call it a professional boxing. So it's
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  Speaker 2: not all on them, No it's not.
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  Speaker 3: But here's the thing. So let's say you introduced someone
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  Speaker 3: to Tank Davis.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: A year ago, right, You like how he fights, you know,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: we see how he finishes people back twenty thirty years ago.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: He fights at least twice a year, sometimes three times
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: a year, fighting once a year. Basically, that's not cool,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: like the reason why boxing is nowhere near where it
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: should be in this country. Our main guys outside of
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: Canelo don't fight that often.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: They just don't.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Now that being said, the boxers are getting paid more
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: than ever before. They're getting taken care of better than
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: ever before, which is a good thing. I cannot argue
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: that that's a very good thing. But there has to
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: be some sort of common mix where the fighting volume
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: with the compensation both bound out. If we can somehow
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: get that, then we'll be really in good motion. But
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: until then we're kind of stuck because what's happening is
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: guys are fighting, winning a decision, cashing out, chilling, waiting
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: for an opponent, opponent gets hurt, they fight a scrub
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: that no one cares about. A fight happens, no one
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: cares about another boring decision. Next you know, it's been
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: nineteen months and there's no real fights, and they're like,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: what are we doing here?
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I agree with that, and I maybe should fighters get
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: paid less. I mean, I don't want that to happen.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: But is that.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: I think there should be more incentive to fight more so,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: whether it's a tournament setting, whether there's some sort of
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: comp whatever it is, there should be an incentive to
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: fight more. Here's another guy, Shaker Stevenson. He's a very
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: talented boxer who has some issues with offense and being aggressive.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Right he should be fighting a whole lot more. He
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: shouldn't be a guy that's absent and chilling for his
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: skill set, for what he does, he should be more active.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: He is not active, and it's very odd to me
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: that he's just chilling right now.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: It really is people turn down him for opponents for
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: him down though he's calling people out and they say
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: no because he is a very good boxer.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: He's a very good boxer. The issue is, though there's
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: fights he can still make the stay active. I think
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: the best the thing we miss now more than ever before,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: is there's no more fights to stay active. Guys are
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: just fighting the main fights and that's it. There's no
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: more in between or tune up fights. Those are gone.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Those are long And I get it, because hey, you
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: can get caught and ruin the big fight. I understand it,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: but there has to be certain levels of both looking
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: out for the business part, looking out for the sport part,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: because you're losing a lot of people. And it's honestly,
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: how many big fights have we had in the last
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: two years, Like big, big fights where it's like, hey,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: you got to order this on pay per view, or
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: hey we have in a fight party. How many big
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: fights have we had in the last two years?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Better be of bevil a couple of weeks ago was
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: pretty popular. That was popping, But that's before that. I mean,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I guess if you're you sick, well, I'll speak more
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: based on my experience here in Tucson, people came out
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: for Ryan Garcia and Tac Davis, the little club downtown.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: People were very excited about that. It was always yeah
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: but uh yeah, no, you're right, I mean, it is
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: kind of it is kind of a dead zone these days.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I think the problem is fighters aren't fighting up, but
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: also I think not enough people are getting into the sport.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: And that's something that I've been trying to do, trying
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to convince people to say, hey, this is actually really cool,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: fun sport. Don't waste your time watching something so incredibly
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: boring like baseball, which I don't even think is the sport.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, baseball fans. You take a light jog around
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the diamonds sometimes and that's the only athletic ability you need.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: So sorry if you're a if you're a baseball fan, jameson,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: but no, I've never.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Been more working. Definitely, it's definitely going to run around bases.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: But I it's a tough watch if you're watching them home,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: I can understand.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: That they let do to watch, they let to walk.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: They sometimes they're just like take a walk back, guy
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: and like mosey on down to first base. I can't,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I'm so balls to play.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: You gotta move when you when you field them the ball,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: it's you gotta you gotta know what you're doing.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: But uh, you know, but I got you, I got you.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: But now the problem.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: But that's the thing though, so trying to get fans
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: into boxing and keeping their interests, you need more fights.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Like the one thing I will give the UFC credit
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: for is there's tons of fights. Often they stay with fights,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: they stay with fight. People want to see the problem
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: with boxing is and again as part of the Mayweather thing,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: where yes he did make a lot of money, he
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: taught a lot of these guys come up under him
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: to make money as well. However, we don't have the
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: amount of fights that we've wrope with. We grew up
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: with fights on fighting nights. We grew up on fights,
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: damn it. Or once a month. Hbo had a fight. Yes,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Pen had a fight at the pay per view. It
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: was just a lot more active than ever before.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Well, and I think too another thing that there's a
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: difference between UFC and boxing in terms of the technicality.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I mean UFC short and sweet boom boom, boom bang
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: you're out boxing. It does take a couple of rounds
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: for the fighters to kind of feel each other out
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: time it out. I was watching with the buddy of mine,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: shout out rip my buddy David Black, who saw Tech
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Davis versus Ryan Garcia with me, and he came out
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: and first couple of rounds, you know, kind of guys
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: throwing jabs, And my buddy said, oh right, I forgot
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: how nothing happens in boxing for the first couple of rounds,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: And I said, shut up, David, But but you know, honestly, yeah,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: it does. It does take a while to get going.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: And if you don't really like the technical aspect of it,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: and you just want to see dudes get knocked out.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: You might be as bored as I am watching baseball.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I don't see how, but but I, like I said,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to kind of tell people, friends and everything,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: you know, look at the skill that's involved, look at
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the ring.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: IQ.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: The good thing about boxing too, is that that stuff
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: gets analyzed after the fact. You watch the highlights and
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you see the way people move, follow the jabs and
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: then catch somebody in between. I think it's beautiful. I
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: think it's just it's a beautiful thing to watch. I
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: don't call it the sweet Science for nothing. But you know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: it's hard to get people, you know, interested, if they
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: really just want to see, you know, dudes getting grounded
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: and pounded in UFC.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: No, it's not necessar the fighting style. It's just more
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: of the amount of fights that happen, Like there's so
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: many more UFC fights. True's fair on a weekly basis,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: monthly basis, yearly basis than boxing. And the thing about boxing,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: if a guy isn't hurt and if he's in shape,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: he should be able to fight every three to four months.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: That is true. I mean, we talk about how we
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: know it's really really hard to do. It's very hard sport.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: It takes a lot of recovery time, but does it
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: do you really need a year? I mean, as I
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: said that unless you're hurt, if you're genuinely hurt, sure
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: that's what it is. But a lot of these guys
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: ain't hurt. A lot of these guys made a lot of.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Good money and are like, well, shit, why do I
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: need to fight someone else when I'm I'm good, my
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: family's good. I came from the bottom, so I don't
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: necessarily need a whole lot to really feel comfortable. So
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: that's a lot of that, Like you don't have to
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: fight back in the day you had to for different reasons.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Now it's like, okay, I'll fight when I want to.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: And again, certain fighters should not have year plus layoffs
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: like Danny Guard's see Shani be fighting you know once
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: every two years. That should never happen, just shouldn't light
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: And those are the things that we have issues with.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Is a lot of the main guys or guys that
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: a common person may know or heard of, is not
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: fighting that often.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: If you're listen, we're we're illustrious sports commentators. Listen to us,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: young fighters. You have to be like a band. Doesn't
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: matter how talent you are, if you're a brand new
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: band that nobody knows. You got to keep playing dive bars.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: You got to keep opening up for you know, shitty
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: local festivals. Build a name for yourself. Guys, get out there,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: keep fighting, and you you can't. We can't forget who
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: you are. There's so many fighters out there. We will
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: forget who you are if you just kind of pop
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: in and out and you know, have a good showcase. Sorry, sorry,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: have a good have a good fight, and then just
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: kind of dip because you can afford, you know, to
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: live off it. For it's you got to do it
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: for the love of the sport. I compare it like this.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: So when musicians come up, especially like rappers and singers,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: they have mixtapes, they flood the market with tapes. Young boxers,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: guys that are trying to make it, they need to
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: be fighting, you know, every three months, like you know what.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Perfect example we talked about Mike Tyson earlier. Early Mike
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Tyson was damn near fighting once a month back in
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: the eighties, back in the mid early in the mid eighties,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: he was fighting damn near once a month, once every
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: two months. That's how it was supposed to be done.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: When you're coming up, you're building a brand. If we
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: had a boxer fighting three or four times in a year,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: more people wouldn't know about them because like, oh he's
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: fighting again. Oh he's fighting. See people out here like that.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: That crates buzz, that creates intrigue, that creates a crossover
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: fan that says, Hey, my person, my guy at work,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: or my person in the chat they said that he's
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: really good. I'm gona take him out. That's how the
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: word spreads, not just hey, there's a big fight tonight.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: It costs one hundred dollars one hundred and nine with
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: HD you want to come over. Don't work that way.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: You gotta build it organically, and I think boxing has
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: lost that over the last ten to twenty years.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: That's where people come down to me for being a
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Canelo glazer. But the man fights twice a year, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: you know when he's gonna do it unless something goes
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: wrong with the negotiations. It's May or September. It's May
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: and September. Sorry, so always can you can round up
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: your people and say, well, guess what we're doing in
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. The Cane will fight in September.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: It's coming up.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: So it's even though he may not fight the fight,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: people want to see the boxers. They want to see
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: him fight. He's at least active, and you gotta respect that,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: especially as a draw and one of the powerful pound
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: you know guys on the list, you gotta respect that
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: he's always active, he's always ready and willing. We'll see
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: what his next steps are. But again, I do appreciate
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: that he's active. A lot of these guys just not
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: active enough. And that's why we don't hear about boxing
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: unless something that happens, Like in the other sports world,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: we all hear about boxing when it's Canelo Tank, maybe
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: a Terrence Crawford maybe too, Yeah, and Ryan Garcia doing
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: something crazy like that's kind of how it goes. Other
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: than that, we don't really hear about boxing.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: We just don't.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Like we every now and then you get a Tyson
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Fury thing because he might do something weird or yo.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: But other than that, there's just nothing out there. So
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: we need to get back to the roots, which means
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: organically building our guys organically, building, organically, marketing, getting the
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: word of mouth. That's how everything starts until we get
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: back to that, especially with social media involved. I don't
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: like what I see right now.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: That's fair, and the social media as a whole of
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the conversation we can have a discussion on in its
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: own episode. But I think one thing that can help
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: maybe people get into boxing and become fans is watching
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: more of it in pop culture. And I'd like to
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: switch tracks and talk about a TV show that came
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: out a few weeks ago that I have to recommend.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: It's called La Machina Spanish for The Machine. It's a
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Mexican show. It's about an aging boxer played by Guy
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: le Garcia Bernaldo. His less than scrupulous manager is Diego Luna.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: The guys from Io Mama Tamien. If that means anything,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: they all so. It's a Hulu original. This show is
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: so damn good. It is about, like I said, in
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: aging boxer trying to make a comeback. It brings in
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: the corruption of the boxing world, goes to some very
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: dark places, but it's also really funny, especially Diego Luna's character.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: It is Spanish and it is subtitled, but it's totally
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: worth your time if that doesn't bother the shit out
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: of you. But the show, it it goes places you
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: wouldn't expect. It's like a mystery thriller by the end
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: of that first episode, and you don't have to know
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: anything about boxing to enjoy it. But I got to
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: recommend it if you have Hulu, and if you have Hulu,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you probably have the ESPN Plus bundle, so you can
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: watch the show, watch a boxing match. And I just
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: want to get people a little bit more interested in
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: the sport, you know. I think people that have heard
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: about it, maybe like you said, they've heard about Ryan
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Barcia doing something crazy, or they know some names, or
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: they grew up with it and fell off. I did
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: because it's kind of hard. For a long time, it
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: was kind of hard to watch boxing. Let's be real,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: you know, pay per view was super expensive. I was
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: in my twenties and broke as hell. We didn't have
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: things like ESPN Plus, we didn't have streaming, we didn't
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: have YouTube, so I actually was out of the game,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: didn't know anything about it for how to know decade
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: or more so, now it's so easy to learn more
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: about it, watch some matches, watch some pop culture, some
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: movies and TV show and so I gotta recommend Lamachy
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: that for you as well. James, do you do you
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: like things with subtitles as that bother you?
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Oh my, I can back it work. I mean it's
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: it's you know laws, the show is good. I'll make
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: it work.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: It's really good. Yeah, it's a and the guys, the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: actors show about it's all Mexicans, so me growing up
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: as Mexican American. The language of the words they use
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: it was hitten, it was hidden just right. I love
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: it's it's a lot of fun. And uh, it's a
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: it's a strong recommend.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, su Yeah, and I'll definitely check it out.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Definitely check it out. But no, like I said earlier,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know a lot of y'all got flicks.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Some of y'all still share passwords and whatnot.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: It is what it is.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: If I'm not going to judge anybody. It takes a
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: look at Tyson and Paul fighting.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: It is what it is.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Like I said, I might, I mean I got Netflix.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: I might check it out, but it's just no, it
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: ain't gonna be no party or no, you know, nothing
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: like that. It's just like, okay, this is going on.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: That's it, so we'll see what it's like. But again,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: I'm not a big fan of exhibitions. I don't think
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: they should be called boxing. I think it should be
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: exhibition and that's it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Exhibition fight, that's what you should call it. Oh and
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: if you don't have Hulu and want to watch Lomakina
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: and you want to pirate it, it's always okay to
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: steal money from Disney.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: So I mean that's I mean, it is what it is.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I mean we got we in the land of fire
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Sticks and all these streaming companies and whatnot.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: So I mean, like, well, like you said, you know,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: grow up watching boxing on legal cable boxes the block.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: It's it's still out there today.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: If how about this, If anyone needs some help on
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: figuring that, out reach out to me DM me. I
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: got you allegedly of course.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, f because yeah, I ain't doing I ain't doing that.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: But but yeah, with that being.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Said, is one of those situations to where hey, it
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: is what it is. I remember watching Holyfield Michael Moore
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: awesome of the legal cable back in the day. So
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: you know the games game. This is how it goes, So.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: All right, before we go, we had a really good
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: response to episode one, and uh, I asked everybody on
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Instagram if they wanted to send in questions, stories, or
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: anything like that. We got a bunch of responses, so
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: we have time for one. So for intervill out there
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: who sent me questions, thank you so much. Really appreciate it.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go down one by one and we're not
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: gonna go uh, We're not gonna read a bunch in
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: one episode. We're gonna save them and then you know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: uh go little by little. But I've got one here
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: for for you, Jamison. This one is from Samuel S.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Thank you Samuel S for writing in. He wants to know,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: he said, he's not a big boxing fan, but he's
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: always wanted to know. Can you be opponents in the
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: ring and also friends out there side the ring? Which
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I think is a conversation we should have even for
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: boxing fans.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, but how do you feel about that? Yeah?
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: You can. Like Sean Porter is one of the nicest
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  Speaker 4: guys I think in the industry, and he was cool
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  Speaker 4: with Terrence Crawford.
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  Speaker 3: He was cool with.
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  Speaker 4: Several guys Bruner like, you know, so you can be
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: friends at the same time. If there's money to be made,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: there's many to be made. I mean, Floyd AND's that
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Judah were really close once upon time. Obviously that fight
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: went how it went. Shane Moseley and Oscar were good
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: friends once upon time. They're both have gone way different
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: ways since I don't know what's going on earth, but
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: has of right, you know, but back in the day
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: they were cool. They're both in business together once upon time.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's one of those things to where I
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: think it's a situation to where you can be but
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: I think both parties know when that bell rings, it
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: is what it is.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Well, and I'm not gonna deny that some boxes genuinely
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: hate each other. But guys, you got to you got
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: to understand this. All the fans when they're tough and
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: shit in the press conference. On social media, they're saying,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tear this guy apart, I'm gonna rip his
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: head offposite. It's for show. It's bullshit. They're they're playing
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: out the match.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: You know that.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I saw some guy on social media a while back,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: might have been Twitter, who said I don't even remember
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: the fighters. But he said, oh, if these two guys
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: hug at the end of the match, I'm gonna be
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: so pissed because they've been so you know, so vicious
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: towards each other. And of course, like I said, I
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: don't even remember what the match is, but of course
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: they hug at the end of the of the fight
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: when the last bell rang, because it is it's it's
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: a it's a sport about respect. You gotta respect the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: guy in front of you. But like I said, you know,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: some people do do genuinely hate each other. But I
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: want to say that's like five percent. You know, doesn't
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: matter how vicious they are. At the end of the day,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: when you're going twelve rounds against another dude, you at
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: the end of it, you're gonna say, I respect you
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: for being in this ring with me, and I respect
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: the fights that you put in. And again, that's the
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: thing that I think is beautiful about box.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: At the end of the day, the people want to
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: go home to a fan absolutely all the goals to
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: go home and somewhere one piece and go home your family.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: On both ends, that's the overall goal, and that's just
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: how it goes.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's that much hatred involved or any
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: you know, conflict thing like that. It's just, yeah, it's
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: it's competitive because both trying to win and we're you know,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: both trying to advance our careers. However, there's still loving
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day. So there's not gonna
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: be you know, it's not going to be anything crazy.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: It's just just another fight at the end of the day.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna be put a bomb in somebody's car.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I remember, it's business now, that's business. It's business, always business.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: And when you're making seven eight figures in a fight,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: that's good business both ways.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: That's fair.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: So, like we said before, we don't want to keep
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: this too long. So I think that's about where we
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: can wrap it up. Jamison, where can people find you
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: on social media?
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: At Twitter, at the Jamison, on Instagram, at the Jamison
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: in Vegas. So during fight weekends and whatnot, be around.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: But it's always a pleasure. I love doing these and
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: talking boxing and business and hold on, we many.
• 34:08
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• 34:09
  Speaker 2: in Vegas during fight nights, but that's for another time. Yeah,
• 34:13
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• 34:15
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• 34:16
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• 34:20
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• 35:02
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• 35:04
  Speaker 2: you know, Talud
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Mhm