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- 0:00Speaker 1: Gotta be the least surprise.
- 0:01Speaker 2: In breaking news tweet, Shamps Ryan's ever put together coach,
- 0:04Speaker 2: Mike Buonholzer was out after finishing eleventh. Still crazy, eleventh
- 0:09Speaker 2: in the Western Conference with a thirty six or forty
- 0:11Speaker 2: six record. We all saw this the wright and was
- 0:13Speaker 2: on the wall. Things were not looking good. I mean,
- 0:15Speaker 2: they had an opportunity, and it's still crazy to me
- 0:17Speaker 2: that they missed the postseason completely, but they had all
- 0:20Speaker 2: the opportunity in the world to at least make the
- 0:22Speaker 2: tenth scene you think about, Hey, reminder, the Dallas Mavericks
- 0:25Speaker 2: traded away Luca doncs And not only they traded away
- 0:27Speaker 2: Luca doncis the person they traded him for or played
- 0:29Speaker 2: two quarters before he went out with a major injury
- 0:31Speaker 2: and miss the ball of that. Carrie Irvin also went
- 0:33Speaker 2: out with a major injury. So the Dallas Mavericks are
- 0:36Speaker 2: just not looking good. Their two star players are just gone,
- 0:38Speaker 2: and the Phoenix Songs are completely healthy, and they still
- 0:40Speaker 2: couldn't catch up to the Dallas Mavericks.
- 0:42Speaker 1: The Mavericks.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Some game's best player was Kai Jones, other games it
- 0:46Speaker 2: was Brandon Williams, and no disrespect to those dudes. Because
- 0:48Speaker 2: I truly do believe those are real NBA players. But
- 0:51Speaker 2: I'm just trying to showcase to you that the Sun's
- 0:53Speaker 2: not even catching up.
- 0:54Speaker 1: But the Dallas Mavericks is a travesty.
- 0:56Speaker 2: And I will go down to say that this current
- 0:58Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns team is one of the most disappointing regular
- 1:01Speaker 2: season teams in recent history. And at a said a
- 1:03Speaker 2: lot because I would remind you last year's Phoenix Suns
- 1:06Speaker 2: team was hell of disappointed too. I think it gets
- 1:09Speaker 2: lost through time. But going into the twenty twenty three
- 1:12Speaker 2: twenty twenty four season, the Sons were tied for the
- 1:14Speaker 2: third best odds to win the whole goddamn thing.
- 1:17Speaker 1: They underachieved.
- 1:18Speaker 2: They were a good regular season team and got to
- 1:20Speaker 2: the postseason and got absolutely stumped by the Minnesota templeles.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Them boys didn't catch a game. It got so bad
- 1:28Speaker 2: that Kevin Urrett, who had been talking bad about Rudy
- 1:30Speaker 2: Gobert and in Rudy Gobert's face and regular season games,
- 1:33Speaker 2: went to the partium and said, damn that.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Dude, Rudy Gobert is pretty good.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Huh. That's how disappointed they were. But me, be an idiot,
- 1:41Speaker 2: saw that and saw the changes they made going into
- 1:43Speaker 2: the season. I was not a guy if you go
- 1:45Speaker 2: back to watching the video, I did not believe the
- 1:46Speaker 2: Sons were a championship quality team. But I thought that
- 1:49Speaker 2: because of their offseason, they had the things that could
- 1:52Speaker 2: help them become a.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Really good regular season team.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Let me break it down for you, and that postseason,
- 1:57Speaker 2: they just felt like they needed new coach, and you
- 1:59Speaker 2: saw that and the guy that they brought in with.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Coach My Butenholzer. And one thing you can.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Agree with, or at least we used to be able
- 2:05Speaker 2: to agree with, Coach My Butenholzer was a great floor
- 2:08Speaker 2: razor for a lot.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Of different teams.
- 2:10Speaker 2: He comes into an organization and immediately they become better
- 2:12Speaker 2: than they were before.
- 2:13Speaker 1: I saw it as like boom, that should help.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Frank Vogel went into the league office or the office
- 2:19Speaker 2: of the Phoenix Sons and said, Jones.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Bro I need a point guard.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Bradley Beal and Bradley Beal and Devin Booker are great
- 2:25Speaker 2: at what they do, but we desperately need a real
- 2:28Speaker 2: point guard. In this offseason. They got two real point guards.
- 2:30Speaker 2: They got tyas Jones, they got Monte Morrison. I don't
- 2:33Speaker 2: want to act like those dudes are superstar level guards.
- 2:36Speaker 2: But given what the Phoenix Suns were looking for a
- 2:38Speaker 2: guy that could just set up the other star players,
- 2:41Speaker 2: those dudes are perfect. Tyas Jones doesn't turn the ball over.
- 2:44Speaker 2: He's a facilitator, he does all of that. I want
- 2:46Speaker 2: to say, shout out to Tyas. He took a hell
- 2:48Speaker 2: of a chance, and you know the whole Fred van
- 2:50Speaker 2: Vlee bet on yourself works out for Fred van Vlid
- 2:52Speaker 2: or Jimmy Butler, it didn't work out for Tyas Jones,
- 2:55Speaker 2: who turned down more money to go to the Suns
- 2:57Speaker 2: because it was a better opportunity to showcase, Hey, I
- 2:59Speaker 2: could be a winner. And eventually he lost his starting spot.
- 3:02Speaker 2: And I don't know what the hell happens with Tide
- 3:03Speaker 2: Jones next, But they brought in real point guard play.
- 3:06Speaker 2: They brought in the coach who probably fit, in my
- 3:08Speaker 2: mind going into the season, fit better with the team,
- 3:10Speaker 2: and none of that even mattered. It got so bad
- 3:12Speaker 2: that once we got to around January, I had just
- 3:14Speaker 2: neglected the Phoenix Suns. Things were already bad. I could
- 3:17Speaker 2: have put together thirteen Sons videos talking about how disappointing
- 3:20Speaker 2: the stretch had been and I just didn't because I
- 3:23Speaker 2: didn't enjoy watching him play. I didn't enjoy watching him play.
- 3:27Speaker 2: They have some of my favorite players of all time
- 3:30Speaker 2: in Kevin Urant and Devin Booker, and I didn't enjoy
- 3:34Speaker 2: watching him. It is insane to think about this Phoenix
- 3:37Speaker 2: Suns team had a worse record than the fucking Chicago Bulls.
- 3:42Speaker 2: And it's not even just record. They had a worse
- 3:45Speaker 2: in net rating than the Spurs who lost Wimby in February,
- 3:48Speaker 2: than the Trailblazers then the bull Like this is just
- 3:52Speaker 2: so disappointing. So when I say that it was the
- 3:55Speaker 2: least surprise in breaking news of all time, yes, yes
- 3:57Speaker 2: it is. And I'm hoping that this is not just
- 4:00Speaker 2: the start or the finish of what's going on in
- 4:03Speaker 2: Phoenix because they need real changes immediately. Devin Booker has
- 4:08Speaker 2: been in the league for eleven seasons now. He's had
- 4:11Speaker 2: eight coaches and eleven seasons. I want to say that again.
- 4:16Speaker 2: He has had eight coaches in eleven seasons and he's
- 4:19Speaker 2: about to get another. That is ridiculous to think about.
- 4:23Speaker 2: The only form of stability Devin Booker had was a
- 4:26Speaker 2: three year stretch with Mini Williams was the coach before that,
- 4:30Speaker 2: between Earl Watson, Igor I'm Jay Treano, who else I'm
- 4:33Speaker 2: Frank Vogel and now coach Blood. The man has never
- 4:36Speaker 2: really had any form of consistency. And now you think
- 4:40Speaker 2: about who the sons are and what's about to go
- 4:43Speaker 2: on everybody. Just like it was not surprising that Coach
- 4:46Speaker 2: Bud got fired, it is not about to be surprising
- 4:49Speaker 2: when Kevin Durant gets traded.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Now it's not even just we're not even just talking
- 4:53Speaker 1: at this point, Kevin Durant.
- 4:54Speaker 2: If we look at Kevin Urrest's tweets, which is satius
- 4:56Speaker 2: to Katie, he always given us content. Let's go read
- 4:58Speaker 2: his tweets recently, Kevin, I had bookmarked this, Kevin, he
- 5:02Speaker 2: deleted the tweet. I got somebody have to have a
- 5:04Speaker 2: screenshot of something, give me a second. But Kevin Durrant
- 5:06Speaker 2: had tweeted this was this yesterday, yesterday, and it's gone now.
- 5:10Speaker 2: So I gotta find somebody that got receipts that it
- 5:11Speaker 2: is an awful place and like in a vacuum.
- 5:15Speaker 1: But boy do they always got the receipts.
- 5:17Speaker 2: So Aaron says, because you dribbled twenty times created more
- 5:21Speaker 2: opportunities for double teams and turning the ball over. They're
- 5:23Speaker 2: talking about some basketball stuffre Kevin Urrant comes back with
- 5:25Speaker 2: three turnovers in thirty six minutes a game twenty dribbles
- 5:29Speaker 2: is an over exaggeration, but I've learned sons fans do
- 5:32Speaker 2: that when they want to prove a point about how
- 5:34Speaker 2: much they want.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Me off the team.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Camera comes in and says, man, we don't want you
- 5:39Speaker 2: off the team, slim, but what other options we got.
- 5:42Speaker 2: We can't run it back, and you'll get us the
- 5:44Speaker 2: best return respectfully, and he said respectfully, shook the hand.
- 5:48Speaker 2: So the one, the tweet that Kevin Durant did delete
- 5:51Speaker 2: was the one that he was talking about sons fans
- 5:53Speaker 2: do this, and he probablys like, you know what, that's
- 5:55Speaker 2: probably not the smartest thing to say, but damnic, Kevin
- 5:57Speaker 2: is fifty five thousand people that already saw it and
- 5:59Speaker 2: I saw it too than these people's are. But the
- 6:01Speaker 2: respectfully you know, recognized and that yeah, this is probably over.
- 6:05Speaker 2: Not even just stet Sean Sharanire also put out that
- 6:07Speaker 2: you know we're about to see at the beginning of
- 6:09Speaker 2: the summer major changes that would include working with Kevin
- 6:12Speaker 2: Urrant and his business part of Rich Kleinman on a trade.
- 6:14Speaker 1: So it is an inevitability at this.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Point that Kevin Durant will be traded and coach Bud
- 6:20Speaker 2: is out. And then the conversation if we're just strictly
- 6:22Speaker 2: talking about the coaching for a second here, it's like,
- 6:24Speaker 2: what's next as a as a coach?
- 6:26Speaker 1: Right?
- 6:27Speaker 2: We did just see two really at least good NBA
- 6:30Speaker 2: coaches get fired. But I'll remind you the coaches that
- 6:33Speaker 2: you just got rid of. You just got rid of
- 6:35Speaker 2: coaches with championship resumes. You got rid of coaches who
- 6:38Speaker 2: were wildly seen before they took your damn job as
- 6:41Speaker 2: good hires. So you're trying to sell we're gonna fire
- 6:43Speaker 2: to all Star. I'm sorry too, championship coaches and Vogel
- 6:47Speaker 2: and Bud and now bringing Mike Malone.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Just continue that recipe. Are you going to bring in?
- 6:53Speaker 2: I mean, Taylor Jenkins don't got no championship, but Wiley
- 6:56Speaker 2: considered a good NBA coach.
- 6:57Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to me. So maybe the next ration.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Of the Sun's coaching job as somebody without that type
- 7:05Speaker 2: of resume. You take a shot on a Joe Missoula.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Oh not specifically Joe Missoula's height. A guy that's been
- 7:11Speaker 2: on the benches behind the head coach for years and
- 7:14Speaker 2: now has this level of acknowledgment or knowledge for the game.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Whatever you go, like the.
- 7:18Speaker 2: Young route, but boy have they tried that where they
- 7:22Speaker 2: went overseas to get igor and it was absolute.
- 7:25Speaker 1: It was nasty.
- 7:26Speaker 2: So I guess we got We gotta wait and see
- 7:28Speaker 2: what coach James GM James Jones ends up doing.
- 7:31Speaker 1: But hey, maybe James Jones is gone. Maybe James Jones
- 7:35Speaker 1: is gone.
- 7:35Speaker 2: He did a really phenomenal job building that Phoenix Son's
- 7:38Speaker 2: team with KD or with out KD, with Chris Paul
- 7:41Speaker 2: and Devin Booker and McHale, And we get to Jay
- 7:43Speaker 2: Crowder's Cam Johnsons DeAndre eight and that team magnificent. Actually
- 7:46Speaker 2: missed that team. I took it for granted, even though
- 7:48Speaker 2: my boy Chris Paul was on that team. He did
- 7:50Speaker 2: an amazing job there.
- 7:52Speaker 1: That's kind of it.
- 7:54Speaker 2: You look at the history of their draft picks and
- 7:56Speaker 2: him publicly saying that they don't really give a damn
- 7:58Speaker 2: about draft picks, and you look at some of the
- 8:00Speaker 2: other teams that are competing on a year basis where
- 8:02Speaker 2: they care about the draft picks, even if it is
- 8:04Speaker 2: a thirtieth overall pick the forty second overall pick, they
- 8:07Speaker 2: genuinely care about getting the right talent in the door.
- 8:10Speaker 2: I did think that they drafted relatively well this season,
- 8:13Speaker 2: Rio Dunn and Olso Igodoro, But other than that, just
- 8:15Speaker 2: their history of drafting and trading on draft night, it's
- 8:18Speaker 2: just straight up nasty. Getting back to the Kevin Durant
- 8:21Speaker 2: thing has not obviously been great, and you know, the
- 8:26Speaker 2: one guy saying that you're the person that can get
- 8:29Speaker 2: us back the best return, respectfully, I just don't know
- 8:34Speaker 2: how true that is. We've had a lot of great
- 8:37Speaker 2: trades and huge trades in recent NBIA history. Hell, Kevin
- 8:40Speaker 2: Durant was a part of a trade just two years ago.
- 8:43Speaker 2: But given where the Suns are and the little amount
- 8:46Speaker 2: of leverage they may have in these trades, what they
- 8:49Speaker 2: gave up to get Kevin is not even going to
- 8:51Speaker 2: be close to what they get in return.
- 8:52Speaker 1: That's my speculation.
- 8:54Speaker 2: What they can only hope for is one of these
- 8:56Speaker 2: younger decent teams flame out of the playoffs really early
- 9:00Speaker 2: and they give another GM little fire under his ass
- 9:04Speaker 2: to go get a guy like Kevin Urant to put
- 9:06Speaker 2: the thing together. And what we are recognizing across hoops
- 9:09Speaker 2: is that majority of GM's are just smarter now than
- 9:12Speaker 2: ten years ago. Hell even smarter now that four years ago.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Everybody's getting smarter and smarter and smarter. You have to
- 9:19Speaker 2: be smarter given the constraints you have with the CBA
- 9:22Speaker 2: and the second Apron and all of these things. So
- 9:24Speaker 2: I just like when Kevin Durant eventually does get traded,
- 9:27Speaker 2: I won't be surprised if we all look at that
- 9:29Speaker 2: trade pack to be like, that's it, right. It ain't
- 9:32Speaker 2: gonna be Michael Bridges, Cam Johnson and all the first
- 9:34Speaker 2: round picks. It ain't gonna be that type of package
- 9:36Speaker 2: for Kevin Durant this time around. And the only other
- 9:38Speaker 2: option outside of trade, and Kevin is making the decision
- 9:42Speaker 2: to trade Devin, and I hate that idea. I love
- 9:45Speaker 2: singular team guys, I always have, and by all accounts
- 9:49Speaker 2: from Matt Eshba and the people up top, Devin Booker
- 9:51Speaker 2: is not even available.
- 9:52Speaker 1: But I do think you have to have that conversation.
- 9:55Speaker 2: Right, you know, again, one of those teams flame out
- 9:58Speaker 2: and they're giving you a call you have to take call.
- 10:00Speaker 1: You have to listen to the offer. You have to
- 10:03Speaker 1: you know.
- 10:04Speaker 2: Again, I hope that he doesn't get traded, but it
- 10:06Speaker 2: would be malpracticed in my personal opinion, to not at
- 10:09Speaker 2: least pick up the phone and give it to some
- 10:10Speaker 2: consideration in the malpractices get to matt Ishbia because other
- 10:14Speaker 2: than him lowering ticket prices and sending antennas to the
- 10:17Speaker 2: locals and you know, lowering the price of an arena
- 10:20Speaker 2: food and all of that stuff, this is a great
- 10:23Speaker 2: idea of what you should not do when you first
- 10:26Speaker 2: buy a team. Some of the quotes that he has
- 10:28Speaker 2: had over the last two years still completely blow my mind.
- 10:33Speaker 2: What is the exact quote? Was it twenty nine other
- 10:35Speaker 2: teams let's see matt Ishbia twenty nine other teams that
- 10:39Speaker 2: it was at twenty nine, twenty six I'm sorry, twenty
- 10:42Speaker 2: six of them would trade their whole team for our
- 10:45Speaker 2: team and our draft picks everything as is. That was
- 10:48Speaker 2: a goddamn lie, because you know, being a bad team
- 10:53Speaker 2: or disappointed team, there's there's levels to it as far
- 10:57Speaker 2: as fandom goes, right, I think there are a lot
- 10:59Speaker 2: of tormented teams in the team fan bases in the NBA.
- 11:02Speaker 2: But when you think about some of these teams, like
- 11:04Speaker 2: the Jazz being bad again, they know what they're doing, right.
- 11:07Speaker 1: They have a goal.
- 11:08Speaker 2: They're trying to achieve that goal. The Pelicans didn't come
- 11:11Speaker 2: into the season with that goal of mine, but about
- 11:13Speaker 2: two months in they put it together.
- 11:14Speaker 1: That's the goal.
- 11:15Speaker 2: The Spurs end up losing winby, the Trailblazers have the goal.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Then you get to the Suns where the thing that
- 11:20Speaker 2: these teams.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Have hope for the future. Right.
- 11:24Speaker 2: The Jazz, hopefully through fingers Cross can win the first
- 11:27Speaker 2: of all pick at Cooper Flag. The Pelicans, you know,
- 11:29Speaker 2: they just got a new guy in Joe Dumars is back.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Joe Dumares ain't been GM or basketball ops got for
- 11:35Speaker 2: what twelve years or so. He's finally back and we'll
- 11:38Speaker 2: see what he ends up doing differently than what Griffin
- 11:40Speaker 2: was up to. The Spurs obviously have Winby, and the
- 11:42Speaker 2: Trailblaze have a young team with their on draft pick.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Even if we go out West, all of these teams
- 11:46Speaker 2: towards the bottom, other than I would say the seventy
- 11:48Speaker 2: six ers, like feel like there's some light at the
- 11:51Speaker 2: end of the tunnel because you don't own any of
- 11:54Speaker 2: your own first round picks, and because you don't know
- 11:57Speaker 2: who your coach is, or because you don't trust your owner,
- 12:00Speaker 2: or because you don't trust your GM, the Sons are
- 12:03Speaker 2: just one of those tormented teams right now.
- 12:05Speaker 1: And then you ask yourself, Okay, let's let's do it.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Let's ask twenty nine other GMS who would switch spots
- 12:11Speaker 2: with matt Eshbia and the Phoenix Suns. I don't know
- 12:15Speaker 2: if it's one. I don't know if it's one. I
- 12:17Speaker 2: don't know if there's one GM, there's like yup. I
- 12:19Speaker 2: would rather take what the Sons got going on rather
- 12:21Speaker 2: than not. And that's saying something they got. Damn they
- 12:23Speaker 2: got Kevin right now, I just don't. I just don't
- 12:25Speaker 2: see it. What other team could it be? Even a
- 12:28Speaker 2: team that put off one of the most idiotic trades
- 12:29Speaker 2: and NBA history. They're like, you could convince yourself that
- 12:32Speaker 2: that is still a better roster and a better organization
- 12:37Speaker 2: than what the hell the Suns got going on. And
- 12:39Speaker 2: then you get to the other quote talking about he
- 12:41Speaker 2: doesn't understand or rebuild and even if we lose this year,
- 12:46Speaker 2: next year, we're gonna try to be better and It's like,
- 12:49Speaker 2: I think the sentiment makes sense, right, Like there are
- 12:52Speaker 2: teams to our NBA history that didn't go to the
- 12:53Speaker 2: traditional rebuilding route and turn themselves into really good, competitive
- 12:56Speaker 2: teams and championship quality teams.
- 12:58Speaker 1: It's just I don't know the field of the quote. Yeah,
- 13:02Speaker 1: what these.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Other twenty two teams did to be good? They tripping
- 13:05Speaker 2: you feel me? I don't understand While the OKC thunder
- 13:09Speaker 2: trade Paul George for Shay Gibbs Alexander in thirteen first
- 13:12Speaker 2: round picks, I don't understand that world.
- 13:14Speaker 1: I don't understand it.
- 13:15Speaker 2: I don't understand when the Celtics traded away some of
- 13:18Speaker 2: the greatest players in their franchise history to get a reset.
- 13:20Speaker 2: I don't understand it, even though it gave them Jason
- 13:21Speaker 2: Datum and Jacob Brown. It's like just really like a
- 13:24Speaker 2: slap in the face to the other gyms across basketball
- 13:26Speaker 2: and the other organizations, because every single one of these
- 13:28Speaker 2: teams that we look at being good. The Houston Rockets
- 13:30Speaker 2: went through what a four or five year rebuild and
- 13:32Speaker 2: now they have young, exciting talent with a great coach.
- 13:34Speaker 1: That rebuild was very, very necessary.
- 13:36Speaker 2: Even the Lakers, who post Kobe went on their rebuilding thing,
- 13:40Speaker 2: and then eventually they got Braun and used the young
- 13:42Speaker 2: players that they got in their their post Kobe rebuild
- 13:44Speaker 2: to trade for Anthony Davis and use that to win
- 13:47Speaker 2: a championship, and to trade Anthony Davis for Luke Nacas.
- 13:50Speaker 2: All of these teams have gone through their route of
- 13:53Speaker 2: doing the whole rebuild, take a couple of years back
- 13:55Speaker 2: to get some draft capitol and and get our equity
- 13:58Speaker 2: up that way. I know there's a zero percent chance
- 14:01Speaker 2: we do that because I don't understand it and that
- 14:03Speaker 2: it's an NBA or basketball guy, or he played at
- 14:05Speaker 2: Michigan State, like he knows basketball. He's played D one
- 14:08Speaker 2: basketball at the bare minimum. It's not like he's like
- 14:11Speaker 2: the Dumont family over in Dallas that that don't know
- 14:14Speaker 2: anything about hoops.
- 14:14Speaker 1: He knows hoops. He's been watching hoops.
- 14:16Speaker 2: So for him to even say that specifically when you
- 14:18Speaker 2: look at his goddamn roster and the lack of success
- 14:20Speaker 2: they've had under him, I feel like.
- 14:22Speaker 1: It really just is a slap in the face to everybody.
- 14:25Speaker 2: It is a good way to sum up what I
- 14:26Speaker 2: was talking about with, you know, them not having the
- 14:29Speaker 2: light at the end of the tunnel, there are twenty
- 14:31Speaker 2: nine teams that are either in the playoffs, playing, or
- 14:35Speaker 2: in the draft lottery, all except for the Son. Now
- 14:38Speaker 2: that can change with the Kevin de Rentrey. You can
- 14:39Speaker 2: work your way into a lottery draft spot, obviously, But
- 14:44Speaker 2: and it's so funny in hindsight to be like, damn
- 14:47Speaker 2: coach Frank Vogel, wasn't that bad, huh?
- 14:50Speaker 1: At least a guys to the playoffs? Deavin.
- 14:53Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know what happens next for the
- 14:54Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns, and I guess we're got after waiting