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SC BOOKGAL & FRIENDS CHAT ON DA CREW PODCAST SEASON 2 HOST PATRICE GRIMBALL · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, you guys, it's pattering me. If you know it's
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: me the girl se Book Out A four three. We
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  Speaker 1: got some music going on right there. Welcome to another
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  Speaker 1: show is sc Bookouts. So tonight I'm just gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: to you guys about all the Avengers that we have
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  Speaker 1: coming up next year in twenty twenty five. Okay. So first,
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  Speaker 1: I would like to thank you guys for being here
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  Speaker 1: with me for twenty twenty four. This has been the
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  Speaker 1: year of complete blessing. God has been doing some crazy
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  Speaker 1: things and I'm just here for the ride. Okay. Second
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  Speaker 1: of all, I am just so delighted in everything that
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  Speaker 1: we'll be having going on in twenty twenty five. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So first, okay, I know last year we were supposed
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  Speaker 1: to do the AAA LAC Chasing Your Jeans Book tour,
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  Speaker 1: but unfortunately, because of unforeseen for circumstances with our producer,
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  Speaker 1: we had to cancel it. But y'all know we're coming back, right.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all know we're coming back in March, right, So in
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  Speaker 1: March we will be here in Charleston, South Carolina. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we will be here. So all you guys who have
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  Speaker 1: signed up, we got you if you want to get still,
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  Speaker 1: come back and be with us. We got you, but
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  Speaker 1: we do have space for duels who have not signed up.
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  Speaker 1: This is going to be a beautiful march. And y'all
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  Speaker 1: know marching Charleston is beautiful. It's not too hard, it's
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  Speaker 1: not too cold, like it's bone chilling cold down here
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  Speaker 1: in Charleston. Y'all know when I said bone chilling, it's
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  Speaker 1: like thirty something degrees. I'n here. I ain't for it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So March. The dates will be announced later in January. Okay. Also,
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  Speaker 1: AAA LAC and SC bookouts. We are doing fifty five authors.
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  Speaker 1: So you gotta get to represent your state. Okay, every
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  Speaker 1: state is going to be represented. Here's how you can
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  Speaker 1: represent your states. Okay. You can need to be born
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  Speaker 1: from that state, the setting of your book is in
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  Speaker 1: that state, or you can live in that state. So
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  Speaker 1: that's three ways you can claim that state. And guess what,
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  Speaker 1: we have one author per state, so that state is yours.
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  Speaker 1: So you're going to get a chance to be in
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  Speaker 1: a blog, You're going to be a chance to be
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  Speaker 1: in a special edition About magazine, and then you'll also
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  Speaker 1: get a chance to be interviewed by either me or
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  Speaker 1: our producer, the Queen, the collaborations, so that's another thing
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  Speaker 1: we got going on. All right. Then we got the
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  Speaker 1: hundred authors to watch Out four in twenty twenty five. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, for you who are new authors, this is
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  Speaker 1: a chance for you to get your book out there. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You will be in a group of the most influential,
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  Speaker 1: as they say, for us here in the Spier's Office magazine.
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  Speaker 1: And I think this would be year three, the first
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  Speaker 1: year we're doing it. But year three is a magazine,
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  Speaker 1: so that is such a it's such a wonderful thing
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  Speaker 1: to have that chance to have your book in here. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So without further ado, of course, it's a Saturday night,
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  Speaker 1: and we have another book for you. Okay, you guys,
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  Speaker 1: I have off the Lashandon Moore and she will be
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  Speaker 1: talking about her book, which is a second chance. Let
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  Speaker 1: call Accepting Destiny. Come on up, girle, come on up.
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  Speaker 1: So why we get her to come up? She's gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk to us about her book. And there you can
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  Speaker 1: see on the side of the screen is that I
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  Speaker 1: am one of one hundred authors. And we're having a
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  Speaker 1: little technical difficulty, so I'm gonna keep going because we
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  Speaker 1: got much more coming up. Okay you guys, Oh there
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  Speaker 1: she is. Hello, So no I can't hear you, sweet, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: unmute yourself. Okay, all right, So how are you this afternoon?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going well, how are you this afternoon?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm doing good. So tell us a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about yourself.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a mother of three, mid forties. I started writing
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  Speaker 3: like seriously, I guess, taking it seriously as a career
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  Speaker 3: once I was forty years old.
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  Speaker 2: Like to travel.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I love writing books.
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  Speaker 3: I guess that the course part my love for writing
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  Speaker 3: books pretty much.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I think I will say I'm in my relaxed.
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  Speaker 3: Girl era because I'm like mid forties and I just
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  Speaker 3: I just like to relax anything energy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not. I can see that every see. I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people going to that now, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to say, I want to say it is because
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: of all the things have been going on lately that
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  Speaker 1: people are like, you know what, I gotta step back,
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  Speaker 1: deal with me for a second, and then I'll become
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  Speaker 1: able to come back and be for you. So I
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  Speaker 1: understand you said that you're a reader. Okay, what book
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  Speaker 1: is on your nice stand or the book you are
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  Speaker 1: currently reading.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so the book is on my night sad. It's
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  Speaker 2: so crazy. It's before I Let Go by Kennedy Ryan.
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  Speaker 3: That's what's on my night saying. But my Kendle is
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  Speaker 3: always also on my night sand And so I'm reading,
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  Speaker 3: uh the dbus Date by Simone and I just finished.
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  Speaker 3: The answer is no, I forgot the author's name. It
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  Speaker 3: was my first time reading reading some of his work,
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  Speaker 3: and his name just completely slipped my mind.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So since I don't know if my book is
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  Speaker 1: going to show you guys, but here is there is. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, appreci read crazy books like this. I said,
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  Speaker 1: just one of my library shows and I'm like, oh yeay.
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  Speaker 1: My boss said, I know you would have gotten it.
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  Speaker 1: I know you. That's just you. Stricting chance loves coo boy,
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  Speaker 1: look at me? Why second chance? If it didn't work
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  Speaker 1: out the first time, couldn't again. So why did you
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  Speaker 1: feel that that was important to have that as the
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  Speaker 1: center of your booth?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so for me, I used to be the type
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  Speaker 3: of person I was the same way. It's like a
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  Speaker 3: second chance romance, no way. If it didn't work out
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  Speaker 3: the first time, then no, spending the block, but in
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  Speaker 3: the two characters in particular case, in this story, I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to write a second chance romance that wasn't they
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  Speaker 3: actually weren't in a relationship, that they had chemistry and
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  Speaker 3: they had a moment and they never.
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  Speaker 2: Got to explore it before. So I wanted to explore
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  Speaker 2: that side of the second chance because, like the.
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  Speaker 3: Two characters, she was his best friend's high school sweetheart,
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  Speaker 3: so they was.
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  Speaker 2: She was in a relationship with.
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  Speaker 3: His best friend in high school, so they didn't. It
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  Speaker 3: was no way they could be together anyway, but they
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  Speaker 3: shared that, you know, that kiss on prom night, So
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  Speaker 3: I kind of want to explore that, not the.
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  Speaker 1: Prom night kiss. Oh god, yeah, yeah, my mind. She
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  Speaker 1: don't need me. Sorry, So tell us about your characters
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  Speaker 1: and just start with the ladies first. Tell us a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about her.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Sonai, so, Sonai okay.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: A funny fact is usually when I write my books,
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  Speaker 3: my titles and my character names they usually come first,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't change them from idea to publication.
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  Speaker 2: They stay the same.
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  Speaker 3: But with this book, I changed her name three times,
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  Speaker 3: Like her name didn't stay the same until we got
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  Speaker 3: to the third draft of the story. And the first
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  Speaker 3: reason was because a fellow author of mine she released
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  Speaker 3: the book.
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  Speaker 2: And when I read the book, it had the same character.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a character name is my main character. So
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  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, yeah. So then when I changed
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  Speaker 2: it her name in the.
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  Speaker 3: Second draft, I said, okay, what's called accepting destiny. Let's
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  Speaker 3: just name her Destiny, you know. But as I was
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  Speaker 3: getting through the draft and I was writing more, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, nah, that.
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  Speaker 2: Name, it just didn't fit her as a character.
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  Speaker 3: So by the time I made it to the third draft,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Sonai, Okay, this worked for her icy like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like sonihilate them, Like she just said this
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  Speaker 3: feistiness about her, and it just fit.
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  Speaker 2: So her name ended up being Snai, so I kept that.
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  Speaker 3: But she's she's just she's a woman who was left home,
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  Speaker 3: went to college, was with.
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  Speaker 2: The guy in college.
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  Speaker 3: They got married, they started a life together, they didn't
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  Speaker 3: have kids, and then he cheated on her and so
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  Speaker 3: they ended up getting divorced and she ended up moving
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  Speaker 3: out of the house that the dream home that they
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  Speaker 3: picked out and moved in with her best friend.
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  Speaker 2: And so she's a character.
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  Speaker 3: There's like a lot of women out here that's been
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  Speaker 3: through a divorce or been through a relationship that they've
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  Speaker 3: been in long term for many years, and once they
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  Speaker 3: it's dissolved, it's like they really don't know who they are,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that's pick up the pieces of who they
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  Speaker 3: used to be.
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  Speaker 1: Basically, I'm the vibe that I was getting that she
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  Speaker 1: was at that point of that crossow point like Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the long in this relationship to like where am I?
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  Speaker 1: Where where do I go from here? That's the vibe
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  Speaker 1: that I believe that I was so okay, So I
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  Speaker 1: was like, okay, yeah, So.
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  Speaker 2: That's where she was at.
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  Speaker 3: She was trying to pick up the pieces essentially to
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  Speaker 3: her life again, her marriage that that became her identity.
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  Speaker 3: So once that was over, it was just like okay.
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  Speaker 1: So and then.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see for him our mom, Our mom was special
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  Speaker 3: because I didn't want him okay, just like I didn't
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  Speaker 3: want her to be bitter from her divorce. I wanted
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  Speaker 3: her to be hurt, and I wanted her to be
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  Speaker 3: able to feel it, and I wanted her to be
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  Speaker 3: able to get through it, But I didn't want her to.
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  Speaker 2: Be bitter as a result, because then it would have
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  Speaker 2: been hard.
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  Speaker 3: For her to fall in love again, Like that's not
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  Speaker 3: realistic for somebody to be coming out of a marriage
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  Speaker 3: and then they bitter and they hate me, and then
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, now you just run into this
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  Speaker 3: guy and it's all, no, that's not how it worked.
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  Speaker 3: So I had to make sure she wasn't bitter, but
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  Speaker 3: that she just needed a change.
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  Speaker 1: Of environment, okay.
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  Speaker 3: So I wanted her to just have a change of
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  Speaker 3: environment to get out of the environment that she had
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  Speaker 3: been in. And for him, it was like he was
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: dealing with grief, but he was to a point where
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  Speaker 3: I think he kind of pushed it down and burying.
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  Speaker 2: It so that he would have it.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't that he wasn't okay with it, because he was
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  Speaker 3: okay with he had accepted it and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But when it came time to him to move on and.
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  Speaker 3: To seek love again, he hadn't moved on, but he wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: He was trying to push himself to move forward, but
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  Speaker 1: he still had that memory of PAF and it was
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  Speaker 1: like he was frightening against his heart right in his mind.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's the battle that I got when I was
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  Speaker 1: reading it right right, And it.
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  Speaker 3: Was because I mean, like his music, like with his music.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I inserted the part about him expressing himself
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  Speaker 3: through his music and how he couldn't write a song,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like he had been stuck on his song.
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  Speaker 2: He had came up with the melody he had.
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  Speaker 3: He played on his guitar all the time, but once
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  Speaker 3: he gets to a certain parts as to formulating the words,
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  Speaker 3: he wasn't able to do that.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, so with him, I kept hearing when when
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  Speaker 1: you had that part, I was thinking the Aaron Hall
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  Speaker 1: song I Missed You, That's what was going on. Would me, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, that's what you want to do. I
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  Speaker 1: heard that and I was like, oh my god, I'm
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: hearing that Aaring Hall I Missed You song, Like yeah, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't crazy. I ain't crazy.
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  Speaker 3: He definitely because I was twenty in with the idea
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  Speaker 3: of when I originally wrote the first draft, which was
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  Speaker 3: a year and some change ago.
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  Speaker 2: I actually wrote the first draft and.
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  Speaker 3: Another book that's in the series that won't be coming
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  Speaker 3: out to next year in twenty twenty three, but I
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  Speaker 3: put them to the side because I had group I
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: had group projects and collaborations and a bunch of other
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: stuff that I did, so I did like maybe three
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: or four projects in between actually going back to these
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  Speaker 3: stories and writing.
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  Speaker 2: Now and fleshing them all the way out.
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  Speaker 3: And I originally wanted I was toy okay, I was
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  Speaker 3: towy with the idea of either she left him or
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: she passed away. And it was at first I was
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  Speaker 3: like she passed away, and I was like, nah, maybe
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  Speaker 3: she's gonna leave him because she wanted to pursue the
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  Speaker 3: music career.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't want to stay in a small town.
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  Speaker 3: And then I was like, nah, he need to have
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  Speaker 3: some type of loss a little more significant than that.
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  Speaker 3: Because he was a successful man. He was handsome, he
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  Speaker 3: was a really nice guy. Like it was easy for
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  Speaker 3: him to get somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: He had to have some something that was more a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more detrimental.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it had them as something that would be
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  Speaker 1: hard for him to replace, right because if it was
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  Speaker 1: a girl and it was like, all right, cool, that's fine,
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  Speaker 1: we can keep on going. But it had to be
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  Speaker 1: something that would have placed that hurt that needed for
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  Speaker 1: this book to continue, right got you See, I was
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  Speaker 1: read I wasn't supposed to be reading y'all, but I
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  Speaker 1: was reading your cover art. I love this poster. Can
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit about that, you know?
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  Speaker 3: And it's funny because I bought the covers wow, after
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  Speaker 3: I wrote the story, because I have like she's an
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  Speaker 3: author as well, a well known author, and she.
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  Speaker 2: Designs a lot of covers.
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  Speaker 3: Whether a lot of people know that or not, she
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  Speaker 3: designs a lot of the covers for the books in
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  Speaker 3: our indie space. And like I was just when I
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  Speaker 3: went to her, when I finally found her and I
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  Speaker 3: went to her website and I had got like maybe
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  Speaker 3: one of two covers from her. But once I finished
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: writing the first two books, well now to be the
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: first and the third, because I slipped in and wrote
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: another one, but to be the first and the third books,
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  Speaker 3: I said, I just want to get covers with couples
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  Speaker 3: because I want with people to look at the covers.
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  Speaker 3: I want them to know, to make no mistake that
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  Speaker 3: it's a romance, it's about black characters. You know, it's
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  Speaker 3: a small town. So I wanted all of them. I
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: had all those things in mind, so imagine that. And
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  Speaker 3: then I go to her website and then I find
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  Speaker 3: this cover, you know, and I was like, okay, so
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  Speaker 3: like this everything that I that I wanted couples, black, small.
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  Speaker 2: Town vibes, and it was it was just there. I
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  Speaker 2: just said, passed it up.
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  Speaker 3: So I got the covers and okay, so like it
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: was that cover covers was meant for me, so I
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: didn't have to get out of custom covers.
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  Speaker 1: Cool. Let me ask you a question about that, because
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  Speaker 1: there's a little I wouldn't say controversy, but I would
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: say some dialogue that's going on about covers. Okay. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I just recently helped someone publish their book, and I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: asked the person I purchased cover from, will this cover
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  Speaker 1: be duplicated? When she was like, I don't do but
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  Speaker 1: keep my cover. She's had it real snarly. So do
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  Speaker 1: you are you ever afraid that you will see your
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  Speaker 1: cover again?
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  Speaker 3: Or I mean, okay, so so in my experience, it wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't that I was afraid I was gonna see
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  Speaker 3: the covers again. It's more so the cover models.
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  Speaker 2: You'll see like different.
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  Speaker 3: Covers, and they'll have different it'll be a different if
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  Speaker 3: you have two different people on it, a whole different background,
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  Speaker 3: because they'll go.
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  Speaker 2: In and they'll change my stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But a lot of times when you run into covers
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  Speaker 3: that way. It's because they the stop images. It's not
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: a lot of stop images out there with black people,
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  Speaker 3: so you either have to set up and do your
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: own photo shoots can get the black people, or you
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: have to go in if you find the stop images,
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  Speaker 3: pay for them, get the licenses for them, and different
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: things like that. So that's why a lot of people
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: are now starting to use AI because you can you
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: can literally, you know, type in the prompts on how
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  Speaker 3: you want the characters to look and it'll out from there. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: and that is true because I surely snapped a couple
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  Speaker 3: of from a young lady who was hosting some AI
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  Speaker 3: covers that she she just started using AI and she
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: was like, I won't be using these, but.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody can claim them. And I was like, oh, let
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: me get that one. That one. That one she was like, hey,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I'll send you a ball because I'm just learning how
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to do it. And I'm like, well, you know what.
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  Speaker 1: It was like give me your information, I'll give me
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  Speaker 1: my information and stuff like that. But I do understand
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying with the models, because there is this
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  Speaker 1: one I haven't seen her lately. But then one led
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: chick who always has a gun, and I was sticking
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  Speaker 1: tired of seeing her on almost everybody's cover. It had
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: to be at least once a month, you twice a
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  Speaker 1: month she would be with the gun, and I'm like, look, man,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: can y'all please get somebody else can get dug in
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: her skin.
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  Speaker 3: Tone or something like this, Like this cover here I had.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: It's three years old and it had a different cover
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: on it before and then I got to change maybe
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: about six months in. But this cover is is nice.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: But I've seen variations with this, this same young lady.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: But they do just do different stuff with the covers.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: They'll go from a different angle. They'll add something that
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: like it's yeah, you'll see it, you'll see it. But
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: because now, like I said with the AI, yeah it's
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: it's it's now you won't you won't see it as much. Now,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: you won't see it as much. Now you'll see different.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: You know, they'll have got the hair done and different
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: things like that. But they're to make sure that they
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: create covers that are.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: More I have now, I'm really enjoying that the covers
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that people are non creating, I've seen them becoming more
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: creative with it. It's not the same urban image with
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the hood car in the bag and aftress. Now I
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: say nothing wrong with those because that's gonna be the
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: books I choose. Okay, people, but the variations is is
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: it's really nice? And then I'm gonna talk from the
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: flip side of working. There are one young lady came
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to me. She said, I love to read herman fiction,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: but I have to be mindful of who I work with. Yeah,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: so she says, when the covers aren't as blatant as
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: they are, she can get away with it. But she
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: said that sometimes she has to literally read with her
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: books like this because she doesn't want them to see this,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you know. And I totally understand that. And she said,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I don't get me wrong. There'll be days where I said, look,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: this is just what i'm reading. This is what I'm reading.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: But she understands that in some type environments that's not appropriate.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: So like you see authors that are now starting to
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: rom calm their books, yeah, sometimes, yeah, sometimes, or just
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: doing discrete covers like you'll get you have the option
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: to get the cover with like say, for instance, women
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that write.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: You know, smut and they have man chests on the
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: cover and people don't want to see to take those
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: books out in public and have people seeing them bringing
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: with the big band chests on them, you know.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: So they do discret.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Covers so they'll be different.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: You have the option to order covers that don't have
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: anything on the front, but maybe like some objects or something.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. So these two characters, so
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: now and I'm on you know how I like to
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: have my games and we ain't doing no commercials to
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: night Because they two were together and they were listening
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to a love song that the basis of this book
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: in their relationship. What love song would it be?
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Hm hmm.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I got thinking about that one.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Uh wow, I know Okay, No, I don't know if.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Really okay, So I don't know if really like for
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: them to.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I had like I had this whole when I was
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: doing my marketing, when I was in the releasing the books,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Like I had all these songs picked out, you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: and I played them and flowed through and it was
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: more of a like old school R.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: And Bud right Okay, okay.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I had like a.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Good Girls like why are the Good Girls Taking all
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: the time?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: By Joe?
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Uh what else?
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: It was a soul Child.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: So beautiful.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: What else.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, Oh, I can't think of one.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: I'm really drawn a blank. I kind of drawing a blank.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: And I literally, oh Mirror Mirror by Justin Timberlake. That
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: was one of the main, major, major ones, and one
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: of my other readers she.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Was like, why did you give me a playlist? Because
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: she was loving all the songs I was put up
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: there with the coffee and stuff. When I was marketing it.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: She was like, why did you give me a playlist?
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: And I was like, uh, I liked that going off
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: vis but yeah, like Mirror by Justin Timberlake, I think, yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I think that was that really kind of embodied them
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: because I wanted her to. It had to be somebody
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: like I don't know if you remember the quote in
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: the book when he said when he got jealous, when
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: she was getting a little jealous when she went to
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: the bathroom and the lounge and was coming back and some.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Guys was trying to hit on her or whatever. He
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: was like, no, it's okay, because they can't do nothing
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: for her. She needs somebody that's that's.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: New and familiar at the same time. Right, So I
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: had that's what I created. That's that's where the second
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: chance came in. Like they had to know each other,
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: she had to be somebody that she was familiar with
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: at some point in.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Her life in order for her to kind of let
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: her walls down, to let her head in the first place.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I know the song now, yeah, I'm thinking never Talk
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: on r L. We can't be Friends. I think the
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: song of it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that song, we can't be Friends.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think we might be ruling
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: with that. But then I'm hearing, uh, it's not even
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: a love song. It's Kelly Rowling and what some snare
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: baby daddy, never End Never no, uh, oh my god.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: She had a song called never End Oh Future Future
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm hearing that. I'm hearing that. Okay, okay,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: So now we're gonna talk about these characters and who
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be in real life. So if I'm a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: biting in the Thanks skimming dinner, she and I's gonna
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: be eating, She's gonna be eating turkey. She's gonna be mean. Yeah,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I see her as a
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I see her as a turkey person, a turkey person
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I can't see her as eating ham see to me
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: another thing that she like she was wrong woe but
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: also tragile at the same time. So that's another thing.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: And it was like I wanted, I want a bag,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: but I ain't got time for it because it's saying
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: what That's another vibe that I got from her on
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the flip side, like when you started stent your actions.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: That's that's one of the things that were coming through
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to me. M hm. So tell them where can we
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: get this book? Where can we find this book? How
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: we give toll on you? And what do you have
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: coming up?
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, find this book. Like the rest of my books
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: are Amazon on my author pages sand the More. I
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: have a website also on the sandamore dot com, but
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: I don't sell my books direct, so when you go there,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: it's just like by my boy out and break down
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: to some of my books, which actually I think I
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: put this one up there, but you can.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Find all my books on Amazon.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: That's what's actually the first one in the fictional times
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: are so the second.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: One will be coming out.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: I won December twelve, so it drops twelve twelve, and
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: it's a part of twelve Days of Black Christmas.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: So myself in about.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Fifteen fourteen or fifteen other any Black authors are putting
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: together twelve Days of Black Christmas. So we'll be releasing
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: from the twelfth through the twenty fourth of December and
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: after that to be the third book in the series,
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: and it comes out in March March of twenty twenty five.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: So for me, my next two books on me in
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: this little fictional time that I took home here parents
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: change creating, Well.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: You make sure you let me know about their twelve
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: There is customs I'm like all these in Indie and
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: then the fact that they are Indie audience. There is
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: something about me in the relationship with these Indian offices
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: like they be bringing it now, like I don't even
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: want to go to the major publishing houses anymore. I
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: love the fire in that, that hunger that companies in
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the authors. So please let me know who is going
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: to be doing that so I could be right there
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: on my kindle that got all will from be loved.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Thank you girl youself, but I thank you for joining
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: me tonight, and you know you always keep in contact
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: with each other, however I may do. Just let me
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: know so if you can Hey, you guys. Once y'all
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: go out there and grasp the step plain step that
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: is out now, and make sure you pay attention to
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a twelve grade cripps. Another Saturday night, you guys, have
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: a great night. Bye.