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BONUS: Did The Coaching Staff Put Ohio State In Position To 'Leave No Doubt'? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: All right, we are back with more bonus shows for you.
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  Speaker 1: This is the time of year, as you probably know,
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  Speaker 1: that we just can't control ourselves. Too much good stuff
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  Speaker 1: to talk about. Too much interesting stuff to talk about, certainly,
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  Speaker 1: this week. Not enough daily shows to do it, so
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  Speaker 1: you're getting a couple extras right now. The first one,
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  Speaker 1: all of these, the next three, are all going to
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  Speaker 1: be from Ryan Day's Tuesday press conference. And I have
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  Speaker 1: been to a whole lot of those press conferences recently.
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesdays over the last decade or so between Urban
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  Speaker 1: Meyer and Ryan Day. This was definitely one of the
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  Speaker 1: more interesting ones because sometimes they get blown out and
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  Speaker 1: it's just everything was bad. And sometimes they win and
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of, okay, this is sort of a normal
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday press conference. This was a weird one because they
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  Speaker 1: went to Texas and played three quarters of a very
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  Speaker 1: good game, and then one quarter of one of the
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  Speaker 1: worst quarters you've seen Ohio State play. So okay, what's
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  Speaker 1: the takeaway? Because it's still just week two, now we're
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  Speaker 1: heading into week three. So what are the takeaways from
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  Speaker 1: that game? So we're gonna have three shows. This one's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be sort of a just look at some of
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  Speaker 1: the general stuff that he had to talk about, broad
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  Speaker 1: stroke stuff. We'll have another one on the offense, and
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  Speaker 1: finally one on the defense and special teams. So We'll
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  Speaker 1: start with the general takeaways from this. Ryan Day talks
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  Speaker 1: all the time about wanting to leave no doubt. Does
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  Speaker 1: he think the coaching staff put the team in a
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  Speaker 1: position to leave no doubt?
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  Speaker 2: I think when you look at the second half just
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  Speaker 2: in general, we had momentum and we lost momentum. We
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  Speaker 2: had an opportunity certainly to finish the game and knock
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  Speaker 2: them out there in the third quarter.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: I think what And then we lost momentum and couldn't
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  Speaker 2: get it back.
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  Speaker 3: There at the end of the game. And that was
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  Speaker 3: everybody involved with it.
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  Speaker 2: I think when you look at the game plan on defense,
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  Speaker 2: really the game plan on defense on the second half
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  Speaker 2: was the same as it was in the first half.
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  Speaker 2: But I think late in the last drive when it
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  Speaker 2: became a one-score game and we needed defense to go
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  Speaker 2: win the game for us, I think we certainly had
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  Speaker 2: opportunities to be more aggressive in the fourth down.
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  Speaker 3: We did go after him. We didn't execute it very well.
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  Speaker 2: Um, we did play a man where we gave up
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  Speaker 2: 19 yards there on, on the play going down inside
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  Speaker 2: the 10 yard line. Um, but I think it's, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you can watch the game and say, yeah, and that
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  Speaker 2: last drive, uh, we just didn't, didn't get enough pressure
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  Speaker 2: on the quarterback to go finish the game and win
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  Speaker 2: the game for us. I think on offense, um, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you look at, you know, it's, it's, it's both sides. Um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when we go three and out like that,
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  Speaker 2: put the defense back on the field, then, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're asking for trouble. Um, but again, I, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's the, it's the, the coach's job to look at
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  Speaker 2: everything and make sure that we're putting the team in
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  Speaker 2: a position to be successful. Um, what we talk about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, on offense being aggressive, um, you know, not,
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  Speaker 2: not counting the last couple of plays there in the
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  Speaker 2: two minute, you know, with a few seconds left, um,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was 10 runs and 12 passes.
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  Speaker 3: We were two of 12 in the passes.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, a combination of, you know, maybe not putting, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, guys in position to be successful enough, guys
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  Speaker 2: not executing. Like, I think the players have to look
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  Speaker 2: at themselves and say, and I think they will, we
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  Speaker 2: need to execute better.
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  Speaker 3: We need to finish.
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  Speaker 2: And then the coaches need to look at it and say,
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  Speaker 2: how do we put these guys in a better situation
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  Speaker 2: to go finish the game? But that's what happens when
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  Speaker 2: you don't win. You know, we had the five step
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  Speaker 2: to Devin that we didn't connect on.
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  Speaker 3: We score there. I think it goes 30 to three
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  Speaker 3: and the game's over. Didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: We had the third and five at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the game. We had the fade ball to Jeremiah to
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  Speaker 2: go win it. I thought that was an aggressive call.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't hit it. But that's what happens.
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  Speaker 2: So we have to look at all of it and
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  Speaker 2: make sure that we're always attacking. But I think it's
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  Speaker 2: clear to say we had momentum.
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  Speaker 3: We lost it.
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  Speaker 2: And then we weren't able to get it back. And
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a team effort just in general. So
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we have to look
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  Speaker 2: at it through that lens. And then we have to
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  Speaker 2: get it fixed. I think that really is what it
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  Speaker 2: comes down to is trying to identify what actually happened
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  Speaker 2: in the game, and then making sure that as we
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  Speaker 2: get ourselves in that situation again, we're able to finish
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  Speaker 2: the game the way that we should. And as you
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  Speaker 2: can imagine, it's extremely frustrating.
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  Speaker 3: It's maddening.
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  Speaker 2: And we're excited to get back on the field and
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  Speaker 2: get going because the last couple of days haven't been
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  Speaker 2: fun around here. Had some really good conversations with the guys.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're going to be in a good mindset
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  Speaker 2: moving forward. We understand we have a lot of football
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  Speaker 2: ahead of us. This highlighted some things that we've got
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  Speaker 2: to get fixed.
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  Speaker 1: This is a very quick answer, but it is updates
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  Speaker 1: on defensive end Zion Grady, offensive tackle Phillip Daniels, their
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  Speaker 1: health status coming out of that game. Nothing specific here,
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  Speaker 1: but broad strokes, this probably constitutes good news.
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  Speaker 3: I don't see those being long-term injuries.
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  Speaker 2: We'll kind of see how this week goes to see
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  Speaker 2: if we can get them ready for Saturday. We'll probably
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  Speaker 2: know later in the week, but don't expect them to
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  Speaker 2: be long-term.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that is challenging for coaches this
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  Speaker 1: time of year is when you've got a team like
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State that has so many talented young players, true freshmen,
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  Speaker 1: even sophomores, you want to play them, but you want
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  Speaker 1: to make sure you know what they're going to do
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  Speaker 1: and that they really know what they're going to do
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  Speaker 1: before you send them out there. You got to be
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  Speaker 1: sort of in that circle of trust. So how does
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State's coaching staff strike the balance between wanting to
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  Speaker 1: put those talented guys out there, but not always totally
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  Speaker 1: trusting the youngest guys just yet?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what you try to balance the
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  Speaker 2: best you can, for sure. And I think we had
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  Speaker 2: plenty of personnel to go win this game, and we
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  Speaker 2: just didn't finish it off. That moving forward, we have
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that we put the best guys on
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  Speaker 2: the field that gives us the best chance to win.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll look at all that.
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  Speaker 2: But when you go into a game like this early
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  Speaker 2: in the season, those are things you try to weigh
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  Speaker 2: the best you can based on what you've seen in practice,
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  Speaker 2: based on the conversations you have with your staff, and
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  Speaker 2: then you go from there.
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  Speaker 1: The dynamics walking out of that stadium and probably on
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  Speaker 1: the airplane home for Ohio State are a little bit
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  Speaker 1: different than they might have been a few years ago. Because, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this was a tough loss, really one of the more
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  Speaker 1: painful losses just in terms of the game itself that
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State has had in the regular season in quite
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  Speaker 1: a while. But at the same time, this is not
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  Speaker 1: a season killer. There was a point 20 years ago
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  Speaker 1: when one loss like this might be the end of
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  Speaker 1: your national championship hopes. And maybe 10 years ago, two
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  Speaker 1: losses like this. might have been the end of your
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  Speaker 1: chances at a national championship. Now, yes, every game does matter,
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  Speaker 1: but it's also kind of different where, yeah, they lost
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  Speaker 1: to Texas, but all of their goals are still ahead
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  Speaker 1: of them. So does that maybe change how they respond
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  Speaker 1: to that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it gives you a lot of information
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  Speaker 2: for sure that playing, you know, maybe a lesser opponent
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't give you. So that part is a positive as
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  Speaker 2: much as they're like really hard to find a positive
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  Speaker 2: coming out of this. Second thing is there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of football ahead of us, and there was a lot
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  Speaker 2: of good coming out of the game. It wasn't like
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  Speaker 2: it was all bad. It wasn't like we got blown
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  Speaker 2: out of the building. We just didn't play well in
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  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, and it was a team effort on that.
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  Speaker 2: So if we can identify what those things are and
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  Speaker 2: finish the game the right way and figure out what
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  Speaker 2: it is, which I feel like we have a good
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  Speaker 2: plan for on how to finish these games as we've
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  Speaker 2: looked at it extensively, as you could imagine, because One
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  Speaker 2: of the things we talked about going into the season
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  Speaker 2: is we're going to have to play in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 3: We have to win the fourth quarter. We knew that.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't happen. And I think that's the other part.
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  Speaker 2: When it comes to winning the fourth quarter, winning the
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter isn't just like winning at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the game, which didn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: It's also like when you're.
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  Speaker 2: Up 20 to 3 or 23 to 3, you finish
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  Speaker 2: the game and you empty out the stadium. But that
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  Speaker 2: didn't happen either. So we've got to do a good
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  Speaker 2: job of that. a combination of things led to it.
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  Speaker 2: And so now it's going to force us to make
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  Speaker 2: some hard decisions, you know, really look to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that we're all on the same page and then build
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  Speaker 2: accountability in the building because with the coaches and players too.
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  Speaker 2: And I think at the end of the day, if
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  Speaker 2: the coaches say to themselves, all right, how are we
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  Speaker 2: putting our guys in the best position to win the
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  Speaker 2: game across the board? Are we attacking enough in the
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter? Are we, whatever that is. And then the
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  Speaker 2: players look and say, wait a minute, guys, like plays
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  Speaker 2: are plays. Like we, they're all good plays, but we
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  Speaker 2: got to execute them at a higher level. And then
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  Speaker 2: are we coaching them well enough? These are all the
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  Speaker 2: things that you've got to really ask yourself. And if
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  Speaker 2: we win that game, then we're not probably having those conversations.
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  Speaker 2: So as much as this hurts and is miserable, we
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  Speaker 2: have to move forward with it. And we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get some of that information. We're going to work through it.
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  Speaker 2: And the plan is to be a better, stronger team
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  Speaker 2: as we head into conference play.
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  Speaker 1: Anytime you lose a football game like that, it is
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  Speaker 1: all about how you respond to it as a program.
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  Speaker 3: So, okay.
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  Speaker 1: What is the level of focus been like inside the building?
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  Speaker 1: Is it higher off of a loss like that than
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  Speaker 1: it might've been if they had won and sort of
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  Speaker 1: been able to say, well, you know, it all worked out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of guys that have been through
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  Speaker 2: some of this before. There's a lot of new guys
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  Speaker 2: that haven't there's new, um, So after today, I'm done
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  Speaker 2: saying new players because they're not going to be new
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  Speaker 2: players anymore. But this is a new experience for 51 players,
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  Speaker 2: 51 parents, 51 uncles, 51 brothers, 51 agents, new players
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  Speaker 2: in the building. So when you go through a loss
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  Speaker 2: at Ohio State, especially the way that that just happened,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot that comes with it. And so what
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  Speaker 2: we got to do is make sure we're focused on
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  Speaker 2: what matters and not getting caught up in anything else.
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  Speaker 2: And had a great meeting with the captains. They're on
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  Speaker 2: board with that. They recognize what it is. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what you do.
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  Speaker 3: You solve problems.
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  Speaker 2: You don't BCD, blame, complain, defend. That's what losers do.
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  Speaker 2: We cannot do that. We have to solve the problem,
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  Speaker 2: get the problems fixed, and then move forward. That's what
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  Speaker 2: we're going to do.
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  Speaker 1: Before the game, Ryan Day talked about the fact that
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  Speaker 1: they were using this Texas game as a barometer for them,
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  Speaker 1: a gauge of where they were as a team. So, okay,
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  Speaker 1: now the game's over. Where are they as a team?
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  Speaker 2: I think what has allowed us to do in all
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  Speaker 2: three phases is say, okay, this is a matchup opponent.
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  Speaker 2: And here's how each guy hung in there or didn't
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  Speaker 2: in this situation. So personnel-wise, it's giving us some really
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  Speaker 2: good information. Here are guys that we can count on.
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  Speaker 2: Here are guys who maybe need to play depth with.
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  Speaker 2: I think we have a better feel for that. Now
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  Speaker 2: as we move forward and look at the next month,
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  Speaker 2: what are we going to need to go win these games?
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's going to give us that part
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 2: On offense and defense, we have plenty of what we
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  Speaker 2: need in terms of talent. I think there's some young
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  Speaker 2: guys that can help us on both sides of the
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  Speaker 2: ball as we continue to bring them along this season.
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  Speaker 2: And then we have to do a better job of
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  Speaker 2: identifying how we're going to win these games in the
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter as a group and do it. We put
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  Speaker 2: a lot of work into it. So to see it
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  Speaker 2: happen like that is extremely disappointing. But we can't just
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  Speaker 2: keep doing the same thing over and over again. We've
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  Speaker 2: got to figure out how to make that change and
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  Speaker 2: get it done. So again, the good news is with
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  Speaker 2: this group, because while I can see where the questions
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  Speaker 2: come up about the similarities from maybe some games in
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  Speaker 2: the past, at the end of the day, we have
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  Speaker 2: to look at this and see if there was some similarities.
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  Speaker 2: You have to look at yourself and be introspective on it.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, also look at this group
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  Speaker 2: right here because this is a different group than last year.
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  Speaker 2: So what do we need to do for this group
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  Speaker 2: to allow them to go in this game in the
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter? And that's what it's all about. So to
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  Speaker 2: answer your question, I feel like we have a chance
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  Speaker 2: to be a very good team. I think if we
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  Speaker 2: continue to identify the things that our guys can do well,
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  Speaker 2: we can build confidence in that, build an identity in
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  Speaker 2: both offense, defense, and special teams, then I think we
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  Speaker 2: have a chance to be a really good team.
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  Speaker 3: And when you look at the.
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  Speaker 2: Conference and the teams that we're about to play as
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  Speaker 2: we move forward, obviously we've got to do a great
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  Speaker 2: job this week of turning this thing around, having a
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  Speaker 2: great Tuesday practice, going out there and playing well against
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  Speaker 2: Kent State, and then building some momentum again. Because the
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  Speaker 2: momentum that was built up, it was almost like right
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  Speaker 2: to the third quarter, and then it fell off. So
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  Speaker 2: we have to go get some momentum again. But we
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  Speaker 2: have everything we need here. And we just need to
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  Speaker 2: put it all together in a way that we can
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  Speaker 2: go make a championship run.
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  Speaker 1: All right, hope you guys enjoyed that bonus episode. We'll
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  Speaker 1: have more of those coming this week. Still plenty to
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  Speaker 1: talk about as the Buckeyes sort of try to turn
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  Speaker 1: the page after that loss to Texas. Still a lot
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  Speaker 1: of lessons definitely that they need to sort of put
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  Speaker 1: into practice this week as they turn the page, getting
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  Speaker 1: ready to take on the Kent State Golden Flashes at
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  Speaker 1: noon on Saturday inside Ohio Stadium. We will be there
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  Speaker 1: covering the Buckeyes and the Golden Flashes, have our usual
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  Speaker 1: pregame coverage, postgame coverage, Lots of fun stuff coming for
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