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Random Heathen Ramblings: S6, EP17 [Monthly Live Stream - May 19, 2025] feat. Skaldic Works. · Random Heathen Ramblings

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  bring on screen my guest for this week.
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  He's a return guest. He's been on the show before.
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  He's going to be talking to us today in between comments that
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  come in about some of his recent involvement in the heathen slash
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  Pagan community down there in northern Alabama.
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  And welcome back to the show Blake from Skaldit works.
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  How you doing, Sir? I'm.
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  Doing OK. Good.
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  It's good to have you back and hopefully you're staying dry and
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  ain't got blown way down there with all these storms and stuff.
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  Coming through, yeah, we're, I think the big storms were
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  supposed to come tomorrow night. That's what I was seeing.
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  It's it's out West right now. I heard.
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  I heard Missouri got like a an F3 somewhere.
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  An F3 tornadoes right around Saint Louis I think.
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  Yeah. Did you hear that?
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  No, I did not. Yeah, yeah, Missouri, Kansas,
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  all out there right now is is getting blown around Oklahoma, I
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  think. So all that it's out there
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  tonight and and out there is coming, coming our way from the
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  from the South. So it's a little bit in like
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  north northeast Texas, like near the Dallas area, Oklahoma,
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  Kansas, Missouri and then it's it's sweeping over.
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  So for anybody that does listen to this show right now, if
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  you're listening or watching this some, if you're out in
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  those areas, I hope you're all safe and safe and sound.
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  Yeah, hunker down, bunker down. I was talking to, I was talking
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  to some people earlier today saying that, you know, yeah, do
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  all the physical things, but don't forget your, you know,
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  word your spaces and, and bless the land and, and give your
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  offerings and things to the to the divine and to the spirits
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  for protection too, because that's, that's part of
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  preparing. I think, you know, it's, it's
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  maintaining those relationships. Yeah, like last night I had a
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  prolific dream, though. I've had a dream that I was
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  looking at the radar and it was like this big, like Category 5
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  hurricane barreling towards like on Gulf Shores, like Alabama.
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  Yeah, like straight for, like, straight for us.
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  And I'm like. Maybe you have some some
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  foresight there. Man, I hope it's nothing like
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  that that's common. But.
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  A little early in the year, Hurricane.
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  Like little hurricanes right now.
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  So, but yeah, I had just put in my dreams one time because
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  because I knew that we were having storms, I guess.
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  And in my, in my subconscious, it, it planted that, I guess.
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  Yeah. So hopefully it's nothing,
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  nothing too prolific. Let's hope not.
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  I mean, like I said, I know it's still early in the year for
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  hurricanes, but it's definitely tornado season, which I don't,
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  you know. Oh, yeah.
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  I say they don't usually get tornadoes down that far, that
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  South or that far South. But we also, I don't know, did
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  you guys, I don't think you did. We had we had an earthquake here
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  in Tennessee last. Oh yeah, I heard about.
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  That like a semi mile, like it was like a 4.1 or something like
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  that. No, yeah.
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  It was like on the IT was like on the Tennessee, North Carolina
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  line. It was out.
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  It was. It was about 30 miles, I think
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  West of Knoxville and Greenback, so up up there in the northeast
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  tip tip area. But it was it.
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  I'd I'd been hearing that people had felt the aftershock of it
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  was down far, like as far out as like Atlanta, GA.
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  Oh yeah. And even a little bit down here
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  in my area, Tennessee, there were some the.
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  Thing is, if we ever feel one big here, it will be a big one
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  because close to here we're at is the New Madrid fault line.
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  That's, yeah. Memphis out close to out close
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  to Memphis there, yeah. Last time, last time they had a
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  big earthquake with that line, it reversed the Mississippi
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  flow. Yep.
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  Yeah, it's, I mean, and there's another fault line, a smaller
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  one, but there's another fault line out close out east.
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  So we've got 2 on either ends of the state.
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  Oh yeah. So yeah, I don't know if I don't
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  know how that stuff usually works, but if like imagine if
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  one triggered the other. Yeah.
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  East Tennessee would become West Tennessee, maybe.
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  Or not even. Who knows?
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  Like it would be catastrophic. The Appalachians rise to to
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  their once more. Yeah, right.
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  Yeah, Appalachia takes over and, and and we're just left in the
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  rubble. Gets higher than the Rocky
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  Mountains within a day. Imagine.
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  Imagine that. Yeah.
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  That'd be nuts. What else is new with you?
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  What's going on? When are we going to get a new
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  Skull It Works album? It's been a slow process.
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  I've been busy with other things, predominantly work and
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  then and then learning new instruments of course.
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  Sure, like I recently I'm started discovered my love for
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  the mandolin once more a couple of months ago and I've been
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  taking what I take lessons, even though I don't really think I
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  need lessons sometimes, but I think I just need to improve and
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  just keep me on track, you know? And.
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  And we pull out some and it helps and helps build up my
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  skill, long loss skills like reading music and stuff like
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  that we've been working on and. Yeah, got transcribing it to
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  the. Mandolin as well.
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  It's like taking it to the mandolin.
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  And so it's, it's getting, it's actually picking up pretty
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  quickly because that's like I, I was amazed how it just all
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  clicks back. It's must be like kind of like
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  riding a bicycle or something probably.
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  Oh yeah, yeah. Touched it in over about 10
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  years. That's cool.
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  Well, you do have a new, some sort of a new song outright.
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  I think you. Yeah.
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  How new is how? How new is your newest material?
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  About a couple months. It's about a couple months old.
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  It started. I recorded at the at the start
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  of this year. It's called healer's chant.
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  I need to get that to you as well.
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  I know it's on Spotify, so if you guys.
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  On Spotify. Where it's called, it works.
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  And yeah, there's only one of them out there.
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  So and then just Healer's chant, it's got that and it's got this
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  other song up there. Too.
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  It's also got called the ancestors.
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  I'm still working on other ones. One of my songs that I try, I
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  want to record. I tried to record it and it was
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  just a nightmare to record because I can't get the timing
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  right. The metering.
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  It's when I titled Dance of Eight here.
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  Oh. Cool.
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  It's got this like real upbeat, like Russian, like Slavonic,
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  Slavic type beat to it. OK.
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  Also probably more like finish type beat kind of like.
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  So it's like really it's so it's like, it's like, it's like dot
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  dot dot dot dot dot dot. It's like.
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  I can't figure out what time it is.
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  To just set my set. My set my click track to to get
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  to me hitting that beat right but I have it in my head how I
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  want to record it. But just getting it all set up
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  to record is the problem with that, so I may have to try
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  something different until I figure it out.
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  Yeah, transferring it from your brain to the paper to the to the
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  studio. Yeah, it's.
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  Like, Oh yeah, exactly. Take some effort, I can see.
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  That yeah, I think it's like, I think it's, it seems like it's
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  in three like 3-4 time, but I could be wrong.
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  The only way to know I guess, would be to play with it and see
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  how it, how it, how it goes, you know?
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  Yeah, yeah. I just I wish I could find that
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  software that can transcribe it for me.
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  It's got to be something out there like that with all the AI
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  stuff nowadays, I'm sure. Oh yeah.
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  They can, they just couldn't hear it and then play it and and
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  throw it in there. Yeah, but what's the fun in
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  that? You know, then you.
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  Don't I know? I know, yeah, I may, I may ask,
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  but I, I my music, my, my teacher, my mandolin instructor,
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  he plays violin as well. He's like a string instructor,
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  but he likes nearly every kind of music out there.
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  So he's not just like bluegrass or or folk.
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  He, so I, I, he's kind of like really down the earth and he, he
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  knows my background, you know, and stuff like that.
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  And he knows what I play and all the instruments I play and
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  stuff. And he also plays like drums and
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  stuff. So I may pitch it to him, see if
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  he can help me figure that out. Yeah.
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  So maybe maybe I need to talk to him about that and we can we can
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  figure that beat out a. Little bit better and some
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  collaborating going on, you know that.
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  Yeah, I could help get you over that hump.
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  Yeah. You know, or whatever, I don't
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  know. Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaking of music, though, you've been you.
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  You got a chance to perform somewhat recently, though
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  didn't. You.
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  Oh yeah, I had AI had two events I had to play this this month.
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  Originally was supposed to start out with Yakub Loon coming to
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  the to the Ravenwood Meadery here in Huntsville, AL.
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  However, due to the current situation at the border, they
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  didn't feel like it was right for him to come at this time due
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  to his his busy schedule and he didn't want to be detained here
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  for longer than he should. And so they decided to cancel it
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  from now and they postponed it to indefinitely and.
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  Yeah. So then we were supposed to have
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  Are you familiar familiar with Karen Dahlstrom?
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  Heard of her? Yeah, OK.
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  She recently had a book that come out actually I had that I
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  bought. I got that book too.
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  But she was going to do like a signing while he was there as
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  well as she was just going to be there just the as a guest
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  because she wanted to come when Yakim came.
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  But she was going to be here anyway.
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  And she said that she just didn't.
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  They were going to do a whole weekend of her of runic stuff,
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  you know. Right.
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  Well, they couldn't sell enough tickets, so they had to cancel
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  that. So it just became a a spring
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  feast and a Maypole dance that I played for that Saturday, for
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  Saturday the the 10th. Yeah, yeah.
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  Just this past weekend there. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And then this past weekend, this
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  past weekend, we had a belt, a late Beltane event just to lift
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  the spirits of people. So we we kind of melded it when
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  with Midsummer, kind of like the the IT was not a ritual, OK.
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  They don't classify it as ritual because these events like Wicker
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  Man, Beltane, whatever they do, she don't want to associate as a
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  Pagan event or advertise it as a Pagan event because the
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  political, the atmosphere down here, yeah, I guess she wants to
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  leave it open for all and open to interpretation as much as
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  possible. She don't call it rituals.
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  It's more like festivals to her. Sure.
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  So what we did is she had me, she asked me to come play the
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  event because it was a free event, free for people to come.
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  She asked me to play the drum. So I I brought my big dabble of
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  course, and I was the solo drummer that played the opening
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  ceremony and then and then LED every person that wanted to
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  bring a drum in. So I was like in charge for the
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  first time ever. And that was kind of a little
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  bit of nerve wracking for me because I haven't done something
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  like that. I usually just following people
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  as much as possible unless it's. Yeah, yeah.
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  Playing the tackle Harper by myself and oh, and I forget to
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  mention that before I did that, before I did all that, back in
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  April, I did a a Astara thing in Decatur.
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  Oh yeah, Did you? Yeah.
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  And I, I'm not sure if I posted it on my on my main YouTube.
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  I didn't put it on my Facebook. I didn't, I don't think I put it
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  on my Scholar workspace Facebook, but my main, my page,
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  I put it. I think I put it on my personal
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  page, but it was like I was supposed to.
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  I had like about an hour to play, but I ended up playing for
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  25 minutes for some reason, because I, well, I couldn't keep
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  track, you know? Yeah, because one, that was just
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  poor. It was like, I wish I had a
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  better setup where I can hear myself better, you know?
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  But I had an impromptu person play like a gym Bay, a little
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  small gym Bay, or a small drum. With me and stuff that just
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  asked me to play, I'm like, sure, play, come on.
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  And that was kind of cool. That was kind of cool.
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  And but I just ran out of ideas and it's hard to keep it up,
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  keep it up because of the temperature was causing the
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  thing to go out. And then my bow, I recently
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  tried to rehear it, but I did not was not successful.
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  So I had to give me a new bow anyway.
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  So I had that one on the way so well, but it was just so loose
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  and stuff. I'm like, I'm not trying to
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  rehear my bows again for a while until I figure out figure it all
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  out. I'm just going to just get new.
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  Just get new ones all together. That's.
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  Rehear. Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, what's up skit? So sorry to not Teresi earlier,
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  just skit so from YouTube join. Just saying that he's pretty
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  sure he's going to be get himself a drum set for his own
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  birthday in August and can't wait to start teaching himself
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  to play. Good luck with that man.
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  I love the drums. My dad played drums, my
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  grandfather played drums. I love the drum.
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  It's the the heartbeat of nature, you know, that just
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  connected in that, that rhythmic medicine.
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  So only thing I haven't tried to do is actually a set like a like
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  a modern drum set. Yeah, like a kit.
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  Because I don't think I'm that coordinated.
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  Like I can't coordinate this with my foot at the same time.
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  I might, I may do that later on. I'm actually thinking about
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  getting like a kick drug, like a small kick drum so I can use for
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  my tackle Harper to get that like steady beat.
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  The sound like my dabble, yeah. Do you know place?
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  Yeah, for sure. Do you?
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  Do you know who Aiola Aiola is? EOEO Aiola or something?
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  It's EOYLA or EOYLA. He's French and he's you know,
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  he's like a a bardic skull, you know, I mean, he's he he
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  performs, he's got music on, he's got music on YouTube, he's
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  got a Facebook page, but he goes live almost he goes live certain
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  days of the week on his, you know, Facebook or the YouTube
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  and I don't know if he does twitch or wherever he does at
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  discord. But anyway, he's got this great
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  like audios and video set up where he's he's playing a
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  usually like he's, he's playing some sort of stringed
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  instrument. So sometimes it's like a
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  mandolin, sometimes it's a a liar or, or a tackle heart, but
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  he's usually playing like a, a mandolin or something like that.
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  Then he's got over here, he's got a freaking didgeridoo and
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  he's got a, a kick drum and like bells or, or, or, or tambourines
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  or whatever. And, and he's just, he's, he's
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  playing this all together and singing at the same time.
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  He's got a great, he's got a great singing voice.
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  I know some people do like multiple like dudes like in
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  their videos. I could never get, I never
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  couldn't figure out how to do this type of video where that
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  you have like it's like a music video, but you show each
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  instrument coming in. Yeah, different camera angles
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  and stuff like, yeah. Or, or, or the camera shows
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  different instruments like you have what, 1 camera and you
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  playing different, this different instrument as it's
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  miked and from a microphone. And, and so I, I don't know how
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  that's done. I don't think I could have that
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  capability of doing that from music videos and stuff.
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  The best idea with a music video was that one for called The
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  Ancestors where I did use stock footage to make string it
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  together and it looked pretty good.
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  Yeah, that's his Facebook page guys, and he's also got a
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  YouTube channel, but it's EOLYA Aolia, I guess is how it's
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  pronounced, but he's French. He does speak English, but you
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  know, he's he's he's a he's a French native and he's just guys
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  just check him out and follow him on Facebook and YouTube
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  because and Blake, you'll like him because man, he's he's a
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  multi instrumentalist and he does it all at once and it's
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  like studio production quality during a live stream.
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  It's it sounds and looks so good.
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  You'll you'll be jealous. I think I'm just.
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  Trying to figure out how to do like a one man setup for live
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  events. Man, just get the, just get the,
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  you know, stable Internet, I guess cameras and, and the
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  somewhere to, to, to plug all your stuff in.
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  So that way it's it's coming through.
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  I'm talking about like when I play in person, when I play in
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  person, like like when I did for that Star Festival.
• 24:49
  Oh. Oh.
• 24:51
  I was going to. I wanted to get eventually get
• 24:54
  me a loop looper like a vocal looper so I can loop something
• 25:00
  in and then play something else. Oh, I got you.
• 25:04
  Now I see. What?
• 25:05
  You're saying, yeah. And then I might also just get a
• 25:08
  kick drum, like a small kick drum or a what they call a kick.
• 25:13
  It's like a, it's kind of like a Kahone, but they you, you can
• 25:17
  use a kick pedal with it. Kahones Yeah, OK.
• 25:21
  Yeah, like a Kahone. Like the the balls are the
• 25:24
  kahoneys now. Like KJKJON Kahone.
• 25:29
  I know, I'm just kidding. Let's out Michael, he said.
• 25:32
  Missed the start, but I'm here now yeah man, we're just this is
• 25:35
  you know Blake here from skull that works.
• 25:36
  We're just talking about music and cojones cojones.
• 25:40
  I'm just crapo. So he's talking about beating
• 25:44
  his nuts against the drum. Was that step brothers?
• 25:49
  I'm going to drag my nuts on your drum set.
• 25:51
  He's talking about dragging his nuts on his drum set guys now,
• 25:59
  but. PG13.
• 26:01
  PG13 I said no testicleers. We'll we'll use the medical term
• 26:07
  testicles. Testicles, the great, the great
• 26:10
  Roman general, the great Roman general testicles and, and his
• 26:17
  and his and his, his brother Biggis Dickus.
• 26:25
  It's a Monty Python reference. For those of you that don't
• 26:27
  know, I think, I think we're, I think the audience knows well
• 26:30
  enough that that was a, that was a Monty Python reference.
• 26:34
  Do you ever get into Monty Python?
• 26:36
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 26:37
  Some people can't stand that, that kind of humor.
• 26:39
  I I I get kicked out of it. I haven't seen every Monty
• 26:43
  Python, but I need to go back and watch them all, yeah?
• 26:47
  Life of Brian, you know. Yeah.
• 26:48
  Oh. Yeah, that's the one I haven't
• 26:51
  seen. The Holy Grail?
• 26:52
  Really. Yeah.
• 26:54
  I've seen The Quest of the Holy Grail.
• 26:55
  Yeah, yeah. It's like.
• 27:00
  It's but a flesh wound. Well, no, it's not your arms
• 27:02
  off. No, it isn't.
• 27:03
  It's. Like where's the where's the
• 27:07
  flight path of a of a swallow African or English I I don't
• 27:14
  know. No, what's funny is when they
• 27:21
  were arguing about it on top of the castle battlements.
• 27:28
  Yeah. Yeah, probably.
• 27:31
  He was up going towards the castle even they were talking
• 27:33
  about it at 1st and that's where he got it from and he and they
• 27:38
  were arguing over which which species.
• 27:43
  Michael Thacker said don't go getting testy here.
• 27:46
  Yeah, yeah. Oh, God, The balls are going to
• 27:50
  start rolling now. What's up, David?
• 27:52
  All right, David, have a good night, too.
• 27:53
  Heading to work. Have a good one.
• 27:55
  Hail to gods. Have a good night.
• 27:57
  Thanks for joining. And thank you everybody here for
• 27:59
  joining our monthly live stream. If you have a question or, or
• 28:02
  something that's on your mind that you'd like for us to to
• 28:05
  talk about, please drop them in the comments.
• 28:07
  We'll be happy to discuss. Right now, we're just kind of
• 28:10
  talking about random things. Blake's a musician.
• 28:12
  He a couple events recently in Alabama that he was tasked to
• 28:18
  perform at. Do you play drums and and tackle
• 28:21
  harp at at both things or just one or the other?
• 28:24
  One or the other mostly you like ceremonially.
• 28:28
  I'll do drums mostly for ceremony.
• 28:33
  One big reason why I took up drums is so I can do ceremonial
• 28:37
  stuff and drum journeying and and cha man style drumming.
• 28:43
  But I feel more love with drumming as I as I took Jakob's
• 28:48
  classes last year. And for everybody just, yeah,
• 28:54
  just real quick for everybody that doesn't know who he is
• 28:56
  referring to, Jakob Lee Hunt is a percussionist.
• 29:02
  Hilun. Sorry, Lund.
• 29:04
  Yeah, Hiluns is a percussionist for Highland and he does it.
• 29:09
  He work or he has done a workshop called, what was it
• 29:13
  Thrimscopper I think. Yeah, he's yeah, he still does
• 29:16
  that as well. With the.
• 29:18
  Drama. The other one, the Thrimscopper.
• 29:20
  Yeah, yeah, it means noise making.
• 29:24
  So that's what he's talking about.
• 29:25
  Sorry to cut you off. I just want to give people
• 29:26
  contact. That's fine.
• 29:28
  Yeah. And he had one last year and he
• 29:31
  was going to do one this year. And we didn't get a chance to
• 29:35
  but yeah. But he were they're trying to,
• 29:39
  but was going to be the same people that came last year.
• 29:42
  Was supposed to be his now wife. What was her name?
• 29:48
  Jackie Alberts. Yes.
• 29:51
  Was he recently married her? Got married to her, but they
• 29:53
  were together when he came over and then Matthias N Wink.
• 30:01
  That's I was excited about, you know, I mean, I'm excited about
• 30:04
  the drum thing too, but to have Doctor Mathias N big there was a
• 30:08
  Oh yeah, really awesome. It was really awesome to have
• 30:11
  him there and I, you get a lot out of his classes and stuff.
• 30:15
  That's the reason why I would like to take more of the class
• 30:17
  and more of the stuff. But I'm hoping I'm, I may talk
• 30:21
  with Rue a little bit more about when he comes next show, when he
• 30:27
  comes, when he, when he comes next to try to get him to see if
• 30:31
  we can have like a, I would like this to have like a DVD of our,
• 30:37
  of our experience made or something like a, like a, like
• 30:42
  a, like some kind of video kind of thing going on.
• 30:46
  Because I would like this. I'm in the moment.
• 30:48
  I can't record it myself, You know, I don't feel like
• 30:52
  recording it when I'm in the moment.
• 30:54
  And sometimes I wished I were recorded some of the things he
• 30:56
  said and some of the rhythms he taught us.
• 30:59
  So I can go back over and look at it.
• 31:02
  Oh, Yakub, you mean the drum rhythms and stuff?
• 31:05
  Yeah. Yeah, during his own workshop.
• 31:08
  Yeah. Because that was something I, I
• 31:10
  would love to have, loved to have, could remember what he
• 31:15
  did, what we did during that whole thing.
• 31:17
  But sometimes I don't remember all of it because it was just in
• 31:20
  the moment and stuff. And it was just like, then it's
• 31:24
  over. Yeah.
• 31:26
  Yeah, you're so. I guess you're so focused on
• 31:30
  absorbing what you can write then and there, you know, not
• 31:33
  about thinking so much about what you can reflect on.
• 31:36
  I mean, I'm sure a lot of it, though, gets, you know, for lack
• 31:40
  of a better term, it gets beaten into, you know, that that drum,
• 31:43
  that that proverbial rhythm, the, the gets beat into your
• 31:46
  psyche, so to speak. And it's.
• 31:47
  Like, Oh yeah. That's I love the drumming for
• 31:50
  that reason, because it does, you know, get rhythm that that
• 31:53
  connection to, to, to spirit through rhythm.
• 31:57
  And then there's the, but the, but I think also what made me
• 32:00
  forget majority of it probably is once we did the drone
• 32:04
  journey, I think it would all, it kind of goes all out because
• 32:07
  we had that drone, we had a drone journey afterwards.
• 32:10
  And so when we that meditation stuff, you're focused on that
• 32:14
  and then all of a sudden everything else is just like
• 32:19
  poof. Yeah, you start to just let the
• 32:23
  the spirit of things move you and rather than like the
• 32:25
  technical bits or the mechanics. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 32:29
  So, but we did learn. We did learn a lot of things and
• 32:32
  we did play on that time. We did play to a lot.
• 32:35
  We played to two hang along songs.
• 32:38
  We had one week 1, I forget which one.
• 32:42
  We played to the first one, but the second one we were working
• 32:47
  on using your hands to play the drum instead of the beaters and
• 32:52
  we were. He was teaching in this pattern
• 32:54
  and then it was too, and they were playing to Annawana.
• 32:59
  Oh nice. Yeah.
• 33:01
  So we were playing it like, yeah, so we were playing it with
• 33:05
  a tapping motion, like take it ta, ta, take it ta, ta, you
• 33:09
  know, like just using our, using our hands and.
• 33:14
  Yep, I can see that. Of course, I didn't have this
• 33:18
  bad boy up here or this big one right here.
• 33:21
  I'd made that. I was this reason why I did not
• 33:23
  make one with him that year is because I had that one already
• 33:28
  paid for and in the works so long before we were supposed to
• 33:36
  do that. So I was like, I couldn't
• 33:37
  justify doing it with him that year and I was attending to
• 33:41
  doing it with him this year and pay for the whole experience.
• 33:46
  The thing is, I would also get the play in front of him again
• 33:49
  like I did last year for that feast.
• 33:52
  Right. Yeah, How do?
• 33:53
  You I was on the I was I was all that feast.
• 33:57
  I was on the dock for the being the entertainment the whole
• 34:01
  time, despite whether who was coming.
• 34:06
  Really. So you're you're the you were
• 34:08
  the nights entertainment. Yeah, I'm there.
• 34:10
  I'm her go to. I've officially become a go to
• 34:13
  entertainment for her feast and I get I get like a meal out of
• 34:18
  it too, but still. That's, that's, that's always
• 34:20
  good, you know? Yeah, it was, it was a little,
• 34:25
  it was a little unusual though playing the Feast this year
• 34:27
  because it wasn't as packed as the past two feasts.
• 34:30
  I played with them for her because we did, we did.
• 34:34
  We did another Beltane event and then we did the three scalper
• 34:37
  event. I'll star up is what we did last
• 34:42
  year and that was earlier in the year and so I played both events
• 34:51
  and it was more packed than it was this.
• 34:54
  It was like the half the room was only booked for the feast
• 34:58
  this year so. Let's take a question here real
• 35:03
  quick and then we can come back to that, but Michael Hunt on.
• 35:06
  Just don't take one of mine. Put it back.
• 35:09
  If you take it, you can only borrow it.
• 35:11
  But Michael Hunt on YouTube. Thanks for your comments.
• 35:14
  Says what's your take on performing rituals in an area of
• 35:19
  sacred land to gods and spirits that differ from those who
• 35:24
  commonly practice on it? Do you have like an example,
• 35:31
  Michael? I mean, I'm thinking like what
• 35:33
  you're talking about would be like, I don't know, like I, I
• 35:39
  could take that a couple of different ways, you know, or are
• 35:42
  you talking about like a public area where, you know, it's
• 35:47
  usually like a church potluck and then you got pagans coming
• 35:50
  in trying to do something like I'm not, or, you know, area of
• 35:54
  sacred land to gods and spirits. What what is the land is sacred
• 35:58
  because it's made sacred by the, by the by the ritual.
• 36:02
  You know what I mean? Like sacred space has to be set.
• 36:05
  But I mean, are you talking about the, the native spirits or
• 36:11
  gods of, of a, of a land or a place that were venerated or
• 36:14
  worshipped by like a certain culture or, or, you know, I'm
• 36:20
  trying to understand the context of it.
• 36:22
  I mean, I'm not necessarily, I think, you know, venerating or
• 36:28
  performing rituals in an area of sacred land.
• 36:32
  Maybe he's got some more context to add to it.
• 36:36
  Let's see here Native Americans and Norris pantheons.
• 36:39
  OK, so are you, are you saying like having Norse or Germanic
• 36:46
  rituals on Native American lands because the gods of of northern
• 36:52
  Europe are not native to the lands here?
• 37:01
  I mean, it's rampant it and it works fine.
• 37:04
  I mean, people, we're doing things in North America and
• 37:07
  naming things and, and calling things as they are because of
• 37:11
  our, of our connection to those, to those lands, whether it be
• 37:14
  through ancestry or through other means.
• 37:17
  It's it's, you know, I think if, if, when, when approached
• 37:22
  correctly and when approached properly, I mean, obviously if
• 37:24
  if let's say, let's say it's a, let's say it's a sacred native
• 37:28
  site. Let's say it's a sacred site to
• 37:30
  a certain one of the First Nations people, First Nation
• 37:35
  peoples. I don't think that people should
• 37:38
  just arbitrarily go in there and do things without, without
• 37:42
  collaborating and, and first of all, getting permission from
• 37:45
  those First Nations peoples or, or whatever the, the, the, you
• 37:49
  know, the, the, the native tribe or the native people of that
• 37:53
  land to get permission to perform Sid rituals there.
• 37:57
  Like make sure that it's OK with them first, that they give you
• 37:59
  that. Because if it's sacred to them
• 38:00
  and it's in their culture, I don't think that it should be.
• 38:05
  There's also. Arbitrarily.
• 38:07
  There's also like a ton of sacred sites as well that that
• 38:11
  have been abandoned or forgotten from that since they because of
• 38:18
  course. Will the tribes move or the OR
• 38:20
  the people lost they're placed there or something like that?
• 38:23
  Yeah. They pushed out by our
• 38:27
  ancestors, you know. But I think there's a plenty of
• 38:29
  still, I think there's plenty of like existing sacred sites, like
• 38:34
  a lot of these First Nations people and, and the tribes
• 38:36
  across the country are, are deeply rooted in their
• 38:39
  tradition. So they know where their sacred
• 38:41
  sites are. So I think that in those
• 38:43
  contexts, you know, to have somebody just go arbitrarily in
• 38:46
  there and, and not, that's one of that's one of the things I,
• 38:50
  I, I have a huge respect for. Like when highland came over
• 38:53
  here and they were performing in areas that were sacred sites,
• 38:59
  you know, like the land mountain to wherever they were performing
• 39:03
  was, was, was near or on sacred ground to those First Nations
• 39:07
  peoples. And they've done it in across
• 39:10
  the world too. Like they did it here on, on
• 39:12
  there's like, you know, the people called Turtle Island.
• 39:15
  They did it in I think Asia when they were doing like Thailand
• 39:19
  and and the whole APEC region. They were, they were involving
• 39:23
  the indigenous. Yeah, they also did the, they
• 39:27
  also did the the what's the people there in New Zealand?
• 39:35
  The Maori. Yeah, they involved them and
• 39:39
  they did a full hack eye for them.
• 39:41
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And with them and they even
• 39:46
  invite or they even did it for them as they came in when they
• 39:49
  welcomed them in. Yep.
• 39:51
  I'm members at the airport. Yeah, they they were doing.
• 39:54
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, I think like in that
• 39:57
  way, like or in that context, you know, that's my take on it.
• 40:00
  I don't know like if you have anything.
• 40:01
  I honestly wish they did it here in Huntsville when they came.
• 40:08
  Yeah, I mean, I know they were in like a city and it was an
• 40:11
  amp. There was an Amphitheatre.
• 40:13
  Yeah, yeah. Setting it with, you know,
• 40:16
  different than you know, like the the black.
• 40:18
  I was, I was, but it'd be kind of cool they brought the First
• 40:20
  Nations to come in there and and help open it and stuff.
• 40:25
  That was. There was a part of me that was
• 40:26
  hoping for something like that, you know, yeah, 'cause I've, I
• 40:29
  saw the videos of other places where they did it and I'm like,
• 40:31
  man, what a. Like when they when they first
• 40:33
  came like to to was it when the Carolinas?
• 40:36
  Was it north of South Carolina when they came through before
• 40:39
  us? Yeah, yeah, I think it was North
• 40:42
  Carolina. Yeah.
• 40:43
  And they and they and they brought their, and they brought
• 40:47
  the First Nations in there. They did it out West too.
• 40:50
  They did it out West, I think Oregon or Washington or
• 40:53
  somewhere out there. 1 of this last one of.
• 40:56
  Their they also did it. They also did it in the at Red
• 40:58
  Rocks. Both times at Red Rocks
• 41:02
  actually. Yep.
• 41:06
  I have a huge respect for that. And they, you know, yeah, I
• 41:09
  think that's the only that's that's right.
• 41:11
  They're, yeah. I'm hoping that, that when
• 41:14
  Wardruna plays Fire in the Mountains later this year, I
• 41:18
  think 'cause they're, they're playing, they're playing in or
• 41:21
  near sacred land to the Blackfoot people.
• 41:25
  Oh, yeah, I believe so. They, they, you know, that would
• 41:30
  be cool if they, I know that the event organizers are, are deeply
• 41:35
  connected with those communities and, and stuff and making sure
• 41:40
  that what they're doing is that they're getting permission and
• 41:42
  it's OK and all this stuff. But it would be cool to see like
• 41:45
  a band like Wardaruna have some sort of.
• 41:47
  Ceremonial. Thing for them or they involve
• 41:50
  them in the ceremony or something like that, you know,
• 41:52
  they're not exactly the same type of performers and what not
• 41:57
  as as Highland per SE, but. They have a different approach
• 42:02
  to the land itself as well. Yeah.
• 42:06
  I mean, he's, he's still, he still has an amnestic approach,
• 42:10
  but it's a little bit more of a communal thing with him.
• 42:15
  I could see him, I could see him wanting to do something like
• 42:17
  that. He has the the presence and the
• 42:20
  the respective culture, you know, to yeah, to want to do
• 42:23
  something like that. So hopefully that answered your
• 42:25
  your question, Michael. Good one, though.
• 42:27
  Good, good, good, good question there.
• 42:32
  But as far as like land that's that's probably being forgotten
• 42:37
  or something like that, I think doing doing your own stuff to it
• 42:42
  like especially if it's like your own land.
• 42:45
  Oh yeah, you know, like you've if you've.
• 42:49
  Or out in the woods that have not been been visited in over
• 42:53
  years. But the land thing is, it's,
• 42:58
  it's sacred no matter where you go.
• 42:59
  I think it's that that's the animist in me though, that's
• 43:02
  seeing that, you know, spirit, spirit exists everywhere.
• 43:04
  And so to to step into that place is the sacred space.
• 43:08
  And spirit also will don't take any name you give to it because
• 43:12
  they have been worshipped in the wild like places where they
• 43:15
  haven't like that these spirits have not been venerated or
• 43:20
  recognized. They, they just, I think they
• 43:24
  appreciate being appreciated again.
• 43:29
  Yeah, they definitely like I was talking I think last week to
• 43:35
  yeah, I was talking to to Chris Miller.
• 43:39
  He's he's got a heathen community up in central Illinois
• 43:45
  that he is the Chieftain for the it's called Vegarsletta, the
• 43:49
  Vegarsletta tribe, and they're in like the Midwest, you know,
• 43:52
  central plains of Illinois there.
• 43:54
  So anyways, he's a, he's big into his, his work is, is in
• 44:01
  biology like plants and trees and, and, and things.
• 44:05
  So he's, he's big into that. But he, we were talking about
• 44:09
  how spirit of the London and this, this the spirit in plants
• 44:12
  and how they communicate. It's, you know, they all act in
• 44:15
  their own agency and they have their own, they own their own
• 44:19
  existence in the world. And it's not the same as ours,
• 44:22
  but being able to connect with them from time to time and have
• 44:25
  those moments when we're, you know, kind of In Sync with them
• 44:29
  or, or. Yeah.
• 44:31
  Quieting our minds and, and silencing our, our, our, our,
• 44:35
  our minds and to listen to what they have to say.
• 44:38
  I'm sure, like you say, the way that we feel connecting with
• 44:42
  them and how it kind of boosts our overall health, our mental
• 44:45
  health, our physical health. There's a reciprocity, you know,
• 44:49
  like, Oh yes, we're, we're connecting again.
• 44:51
  And then so it's, it's I, I, I've talked about that.
• 44:54
  We've, you know, here in my house, we've had plants that
• 44:57
  looked to be good for dead. You know, we had an organ plant
• 45:02
  that, that stopped blooming for, for a long time and it looked
• 45:06
  like just dead, you know, like there was, there was the only
• 45:09
  green on it was near the, the leaves.
• 45:13
  And it was, it was interesting because like the, the, the
• 45:17
  atmosphere of the home was at the time, you know, kind of
• 45:21
  tumultuous. And then once things got put in
• 45:23
  order and things were happier and there was more joy in
• 45:27
  existence by us, the humans in the space plant life responded
• 45:32
  even it was really interesting to see how it, it, it became, it
• 45:36
  was revived and it started blooming again and it's been
• 45:38
  blooming since. So it's interesting to see the,
• 45:41
  the relationship that our behavior can in part, you know,
• 45:46
  when we're in a good space or when we're not in a good space,
• 45:48
  how we can reflect in the plant life.
• 45:50
  And when you go outside and you put your bare skin on earth and
• 45:53
  you, you know, touch earth, touch grass, all of those heavy
• 45:57
  and burdensome things can be kind of offloaded into into the
• 46:00
  unto our mother yard, right? And then her healing comes back
• 46:05
  to us, those through those vibrations, through that,
• 46:08
  through that connectivity. So we definitely have a, we
• 46:12
  definitely have a, because we are part of nature, because, you
• 46:17
  know, because we are nature, we are made of the things that
• 46:19
  nature is made of. We it is sacred, you know, and,
• 46:24
  and claiming it, claiming space is sacred place or sacred space
• 46:28
  to, to work with your divinity, the God spirit, whatever it's,
• 46:33
  it's about connecting. It's about being connected in
• 46:36
  the in the presence. And I think that's the reason.
• 46:38
  I think that's also why I'm I feel the way I do right now in
• 46:42
  this in the slump I've had over the past couple on weeks to
• 46:47
  months. This is I haven't gotten out in
• 46:49
  nature and forever for a while. Yeah, it's time and.
• 46:54
  I'm very bad. I'm very about that that.
• 46:56
  But when I get back in it, I'm like, it gets clear, like I can
• 47:00
  go out just in a little bit of space and.
• 47:06
  Well, you know. If we go, if we go out to the
• 47:08
  woods and shoot, like shoot my oh, I feel that energy as well.
• 47:18
  You know, all you needed is just to, to start as I mean, all you
• 47:20
  need is is 10 minutes a day, you know?
• 47:23
  Oh yeah. And then it's a day to just take
• 47:24
  your socks and shoes off and just put your foot, put your
• 47:27
  feet in the grass. Oh yeah.
• 47:29
  Just that 10 minutes a day can can, can really improve things,
• 47:34
  I've noticed. And then when you do that and
• 47:36
  you make a habit and a sort of a ritual of that, you then become
• 47:41
  more inclined to want to increase the time you're like,
• 47:45
  oh, instead of sitting, you know, in front of my, you know,
• 47:48
  and this is not a dig. Don't let, don't let me, don't
• 47:50
  get me wrong here. Like, instead of sitting in
• 47:52
  front of my video games for three hours, I could be outside
• 47:55
  in the grass for an hour, you know?
• 47:56
  Or. Saying, you know, like do your
• 47:59
  things that you enjoy, like not not trying to, you know, dig on
• 48:02
  anybody for that. But at the same time, like if
• 48:04
  you can make 10 minutes a day, every day, no matter what you're
• 48:07
  doing, you can make 10 minutes. You'll find where your other
• 48:11
  time is being spent. And you'll be like, oh, well,
• 48:13
  I've got 20 minutes there. Actually, I got 30 minutes or
• 48:15
  whatever. And you want to, the more you
• 48:18
  practice it, the more you live it.
• 48:19
  It becomes your lifestyle. Oh yeah.
• 48:25
  So I think if you haven't been able to get out there that.
• 48:27
  The only I do when I it's the same film I do when I play music
• 48:29
  as well. It's like when I get when I
• 48:32
  actually start doing it and I keep doing it and I do it.
• 48:35
  It's it's like my mood is just lifted.
• 48:38
  Yeah, well, that probably has to do with the rhythm too.
• 48:42
  You know what I mean? That that, that it's in cadence
• 48:45
  with your breathing cadence with your heartbeat, you know, like
• 48:48
  just maybe not the same rhythm, but just that, that rhythmic
• 48:51
  motion. And then how music is, is a, is
• 48:54
  a, it's a type of medicine, I would say, you know, because
• 48:58
  it's, it's a universal language. You don't have to be able to
• 49:03
  speak, you don't have to be able to speak a language to know
• 49:06
  when, what music makes you feel like.
• 49:08
  It's but also it's also energy and vibration too.
• 49:12
  Yep. And because they they even they
• 49:19
  have science has proven this as well that different frequencies.
• 49:24
  Oh yeah. Affect different areas and even
• 49:27
  in even in the Hindu modern Hindu interpretations of chakras
• 49:33
  and stuff, each frequency correlates with a certain
• 49:36
  chakra. Michael Hunt who says by the
• 49:41
  way, not my real name. OK, I'm wouldn't I wouldn't
• 49:46
  knock it if it were. But anyways says appreciate the
• 49:48
  feedback. Just wanted to ensure proper
• 49:50
  respect to not overstep others and their lands.
• 49:53
  Likely just overthinking it. By the way, not my real name
• 49:56
  lol. Yeah, no, I mean, Michael or
• 49:59
  whoever you are, again, if it's, if it's sacred land to the, the
• 50:07
  native Indians that are, are indigenous to the space, I
• 50:13
  would, I would approach that with the with the respect and
• 50:17
  and honor that it that is deserving of it.
• 50:18
  You know, like don't again, just arbitrarily think that it's OK.
• 50:23
  I mean, like if it's a, if it's a big space, if there's
• 50:25
  especially if it's like a, a burial mouse or any, some sort
• 50:29
  of sacred site that is important to them first, first reach out
• 50:34
  to them and see, you know, what's the accessibility to
• 50:38
  this, you know, out of respect. Yeah.
• 50:40
  I think that's the right approach.
• 50:43
  I think the only free thing you could probably do, if it's like
• 50:45
  a sacred like site where the spirits are, you know, you could
• 50:49
  probably say a small prayer for the spirits there on your own.
• 50:54
  Yeah, like, you know, I mean. Acknowledging in that spirit,
• 50:57
  just acknowledging that spirits and just say, oh, great spirits.
• 51:02
  Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's something like that.
• 51:04
  That's, you know, one person going there and, and paying
• 51:06
  respects to that nature. I mean, I'm, I, I guess I'm
• 51:08
  thinking more along the lines of I'd like to host an event here
• 51:11
  and bring, you know, 150. People, yeah, or something like.
• 51:14
  That for a ritual year like hold on.
• 51:16
  I would never have a ritual on on sacred land, but if I go
• 51:19
  through like a sacred site or some of that, I will always bow
• 51:23
  and pray to the spirits there. Just like if I was like, say, I
• 51:27
  went to like, Japan and to all these Shinto shrines, I would
• 51:31
  do, I would do it to the bet. I'll pay my respects the best
• 51:36
  way I can because those are sacred.
• 51:39
  And when visiting those shrines, yeah, the spirits were there and
• 51:44
  you acknowledged them and you weren't about them to you.
• 51:49
  Because they would, of course, like when you go to a shrine
• 51:52
  there they will also have pamphlets that tell you what the
• 51:55
  spirit is and the story behind it and the mythological
• 51:59
  mythology behind it then. But you still go.
• 52:03
  I still go there and pay my respects.
• 52:05
  Speaking of sacred sites, did you hear about or have you ever
• 52:12
  heard of Hoens? Let's see if I can do it right
• 52:16
  in my German Hoensenberg. That's probably terrible.
• 52:20
  Hoensenberg. It's it's a, it's a sacred holy
• 52:24
  place of Thor in Germany, of course.
• 52:30
  But you see here I'm reading a thing about it.
• 52:34
  It was so this was an article written by Al Sidhu founder
• 52:42
  Robert Sass. And he wrote a blog earlier or a
• 52:48
  few years ago about the the sacred Saxon site in, in
• 52:54
  Hohensen, Hohensenberg, Hoisenberg, not Hoisenberg,
• 52:59
  HOHENSY Berg BURG Hoensburg. It's my best.
• 53:07
  I think I can do it right now. I don't know why I'm having a
• 53:09
  difficulty with the German pronunciation, but the fact that
• 53:13
  Cyborg was a Saxon holy place, Hoensyberg.
• 53:17
  Maybe that's maybe that's Hoensyberg, but the fact that
• 53:21
  Cyborg was a Saxon holy place to Thunor is not mentioned in any
• 53:28
  books that at the time Robert had read about it, nor websites.
• 53:33
  What is fascinating is that in the old Saxon Halian poem, there
• 53:42
  contains a passage that proves the sacredness of of Thunor in
• 53:46
  Saxon thought. So without a doubt, you know
• 53:49
  Thunor, which is the Saxon name for Thor.
• 53:53
  It it he was a he was a big deal to the Saxons.
• 53:58
  And it also proves that in the Saxon Halian, this is this is
• 54:05
  kind of what blew my mind, right?
• 54:07
  The Christian missionaries who are they're chose to attempt to
• 54:13
  replace Thunor with the apostle Saint Peter.
• 54:19
  So Robert's point is that it's he says the fact that the
• 54:22
  Christians felt the first Pope of the church, which is Peter in
• 54:26
  their in their in their Canon right is and and the most
• 54:30
  important and the most important disciple in their gospel was the
• 54:34
  one to quote UN quote, hide Thunur right to replace Thunur.
• 54:40
  So they wanted basically wanted to have their most important
• 54:44
  person replace the Saxons most important person in their and
• 54:48
  beyond in the, in their in their religious views that right there
• 54:51
  their St. or their God or their deity, right.
• 54:54
  They the the the Christian missionaries wanted to get
• 54:56
  picked their most important person or their most important
• 54:59
  figure to replace the Saxon heathens most important figure.
• 55:04
  And this was that again, this is a Honziberg.
• 55:07
  I guess is is how I'm going to say it, Honziberg.
• 55:13
  So yeah, I don't know if you'd ever heard of that place, but.
• 55:15
  Yeah, I've never heard of it. Yep, It was a sacred site
• 55:18
  dedicated to Thor. We know, of course, Donar's Oak.
• 55:23
  And I think it's Lower Lower Saxony, maybe.
• 55:25
  Where's where's Donar's Oak? Donar's Oak?
• 55:32
  The site of where Donar's Oak used to be.
• 55:36
  Yeah. Unclear locations around what is
• 55:39
  now the region of Hesse, Germany.
• 55:44
  Donar Aisha is the historical landmark in north.
• 55:49
  Let's see in car Germany. I don't know if that's, I guess
• 55:55
  that's the north maybe. But of course, those those holy
• 56:05
  sites, those sacred sites, they were either the trees were torn
• 56:09
  down or the monuments like they're so like the side of the
• 56:13
  airmen. So like those trees were cut
• 56:16
  down or they were burned and then what was replaced were
• 56:20
  churches, You know, they, they would build a church on that
• 56:23
  site as like a kind of a finger to the to the sacks.
• 56:33
  So don't do that. Don't, don't go into sacred
• 56:35
  sites and try to wipe things out and put your own shit up.
• 56:37
  Don't do that. Which makes me think, are there
• 56:42
  churches on sacred sites here in the states?
• 56:47
  Dude, are you kidding me? I'm sure there are.
• 56:48
  There has to be. Because if they were doing the
• 56:51
  same, if we had the same mindset as.
• 56:55
  I mean. The Christians, if the
• 56:56
  Christians then that that settled here, had the same
• 57:00
  mindset, you know? Yeah, I mean, like we look like
• 57:05
  the Native Americans are are conquered people and and they
• 57:09
  were conquered by Europeans. Yeah, of course they were.
• 57:12
  They were already they were fighting themselves.
• 57:14
  Like that's not a secret. It's, you know, tribes always
• 57:16
  there was always inner fighting, even with the Germanic people.
• 57:19
  It's one of the reasons why a confederation didn't work.
• 57:25
  It's, it's one of the big reasons why the Germanic tribes
• 57:29
  couldn't unify and form a coalition of confederacy to
• 57:33
  fight against Charlemagne and to actually retain their traditions
• 57:38
  and keep themselves heathen. Yeah, it's because they were
• 57:42
  always fighting themselves. So same thing happened over
• 57:44
  here, obviously. But then Europeans came over and
• 57:46
  it was, you know, genocide left and right taken over.
• 57:50
  And then I'm sure, dude, I'm sure that there's got to be holy
• 57:54
  sites or sacred places, sacred ground to, to Native American
• 57:56
  Indians that have been replaced with, you know, the church,
• 58:04
  church or a church or something. I mean that, I'm sure of it.
• 58:09
  Yeah, probably all these probably these churches that are
• 58:13
  in the in the in the backwoods probably I think all these like
• 58:17
  old churches. Well, I mean, you know, I just,
• 58:21
  you know, it's, it's wild. You know, you look around and I,
• 58:23
  I live, I live not, I live a stone's throw away or, you know,
• 58:29
  from the, the trip, a part of the Trail of Tears.
• 58:32
  Like if there's a sign where this is where the Trail of Tears
• 58:34
  go through, you know what I mean?
• 58:35
  And there's highways and there's.
• 58:38
  You know, there's, there's literally a church.
• 58:43
  I lived in Pulaski. There was a few trail of Cheers
• 58:47
  roads that went there as well. So you know, you just figure
• 58:51
  where that where that had gone through and then you look and
• 58:54
  see what there is now. I mean, there's a huge world
• 58:56
  outreach church or world outreach, but there's a huge
• 59:02
  mega church that's like down the road from us as well.
• 59:05
  I'm like, well, if the Trail of Tears came through here, then
• 59:08
  they got to have, even if there's not a church there, I
• 59:11
  mean, there, there's a highway, there's, there's something
• 59:13
  there. So it's almost like, you know,
• 59:16
  when you see the, the state of a, of a place and you go, why is
• 59:20
  it so bad there? And then you start doing
• 59:22
  research on the land where everything is now what it used
• 59:26
  to be. And you're like, oh, no wonder
• 59:27
  things are fucked. It's because this is all Indian
• 59:29
  burial ground, you know? It's no wonder everything's a
• 59:34
  shit show, you know? Like you just built everything
• 59:38
  over their sacred marial mounds, you know?
• 59:41
  Oh yeah, it's just like here in Huntsville, I think it's like, I
• 59:45
  think it's the reason why they're one of the buildings
• 59:49
  that were up there originally up there.
• 59:52
  The older buildings was gone the ruin probably, but they still
• 59:58
  have some like people living up there is on Monte Sano mountain
• 1:00:01
  right there is got a lot of history behind that as well.
• 1:00:09
  There's a lot of like. You know anything about the
• 1:00:11
  history there or the is it all? It well used to be Huntsville,
• 1:00:16
  used to be considered called Monte Sano.
• 1:00:20
  Like the from the mountain down the bit to that on to where it's
• 1:00:25
  now where West eastern Huntsville is used to be called
• 1:00:31
  Montesano. Montesano, Montesano.
• 1:00:36
  Montesano. Yeah.
• 1:00:38
  And there used to be, there was, there was also, there was like.
• 1:00:41
  A rusty. It's a mount.
• 1:00:44
  It's like, it's like a mountain. It's.
• 1:00:46
  Like a Monte Monte, Monte Monte is a.
• 1:00:50
  Yeah. Like Monte Cristo Christ
• 1:00:53
  Mountain. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:56
  I mean, I'll have to look that up, see what it.
• 1:00:58
  Means yeah, I'm going to see here because now you got me
• 1:01:00
  going. Now I'm going down.
• 1:01:03
  Now I'm going down the Monte St. St.
• 1:01:06
  How is it? Monte St.
• 1:01:07
  Oh, Monte Sano State Park. Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  So what Monte I'm? Trying to figure out Monte Sano
• 1:01:16
  Mountain which is technically is a Mesa technically because it's
• 1:01:20
  flat. It's Spanish for mountain of
• 1:01:24
  health. Oh, OK, so it's a it's a Spanish
• 1:01:27
  name. Monte Sano maybe, I don't know.
• 1:01:31
  It's given by Doctor Thomas Fern, but I was reading
• 1:01:38
  something where the, it was like its own town or something up
• 1:01:42
  there at one point. And yeah, it's got, no, it's
• 1:01:46
  like mostly there's ruins of the old of the old hotel there and
• 1:01:49
  there's ruins of the, if you go on some of the trails, there's
• 1:01:53
  some ruins of the of somebody's house.
• 1:01:56
  OK, Yeah, OK, gotcha. Yeah.
• 1:01:58
  So it was this old. Yeah, in the state, in the State
• 1:02:02
  Park of it. Yeah, in the State Park of it,
• 1:02:05
  Yeah. It's like you'll find a lot of
• 1:02:07
  old ruins but then there's like newer buildings and housing up
• 1:02:11
  there as well. Huh.
• 1:02:14
  But on some of the sites, and then there's, it's got a lot of
• 1:02:21
  weird history. There's like also some old
• 1:02:23
  remnants of railroad tracks. Yeah, I was looking at there's a
• 1:02:27
  railroad. So I guess this was this was the
• 1:02:33
  the reason it was called the Mountain of Health was because
• 1:02:36
  Thomas Fern, with his two brothers, founded a small colony
• 1:02:39
  on the mountain during an epidemic of yellow fever,
• 1:02:42
  malaria and colon. Yeah.
• 1:02:44
  Well, apparently everybody was sick, as sick as dogs.
• 1:02:47
  And then they they settled a community on this mountain where
• 1:02:50
  they could keep people healthy. Yeah.
• 1:02:53
  That's fascinating. And I think it, I think it later
• 1:02:56
  though, I mean, it was it, I was reading something like, I can't
• 1:03:01
  remember if if I'm correct on this, but I was reading
• 1:03:04
  something in a, in a brochure or booklet from them.
• 1:03:08
  They show the map of what the whole area was like and it went
• 1:03:13
  down even into eastern Huntsville for a while.
• 1:03:19
  And then of course Huntsville. Huntsville was named and
• 1:03:24
  swallowed everything else and annexed everything.
• 1:03:28
  Yeah. So.
• 1:03:30
  More gentrification or something?
• 1:03:34
  Yeah. Yeah, well, that's cool.
• 1:03:36
  Like I live where I live, when you came up, 'cause you've been
• 1:03:40
  to Murfreesboro, you came up for the Shadowmoot last Shadowmoot
• 1:03:45
  last year, which by the way, I don't want to go off the rails
• 1:03:49
  too, Mark, but, but since we mentioned that, did you hear
• 1:03:52
  that the hearth is they, they are doing Shadowmoot this year
• 1:03:55
  and it is a camping event. Oh yeah, I saw something about
• 1:04:00
  that. I think it's up in Kentucky.
• 1:04:02
  Yeah, Hopkinsville, which is just not that far over this
• 1:04:07
  Tennessee State line. So you know, if you're yeah, if
• 1:04:10
  you're if you're coming up this far halfway, then you're like
• 1:04:13
  another 2 1/2 maybe hour or so hours to Hopkinsville from here.
• 1:04:19
  So. But they are doing it and it is
• 1:04:21
  it is the thing. So.
• 1:04:23
  But yeah, when you came up here like we're.
• 1:04:25
  Sounds like it. Sounds like it's like near the
• 1:04:27
  gorge, the Red River Gorge. Yeah, it might be.
• 1:04:34
  I don't know, because that thing is that place is that gorgeous
• 1:04:37
  huge. It's in Red River.
• 1:04:40
  Gorgeous huge in in Kentucky. It's like it's got a lot of
• 1:04:44
  hiking trails there. Yeah, it's in Christian County.
• 1:04:55
  There's also a there's also a a big hiking trail that goes east
• 1:05:00
  to West. So it's, it's, it's West, yeah,
• 1:05:04
  it's southwestern Kentucky. Like it's not as far West as
• 1:05:07
  say, you know, Indiana or whatever.
• 1:05:08
  But it's, it's, you go up like towards Clarksville and then go
• 1:05:14
  up into to like Fort Campbell and it's up in that area or a
• 1:05:20
  little bit West of there. So, but yeah.
• 1:05:23
  Anyway, the the the trail I'm thinking about is like an E is
• 1:05:26
  like like southern East Tennessee up through northern E
• 1:05:31
  on Kentucky. Oh, OK, yeah.
• 1:05:34
  Yeah, I forgot. Opposite side.
• 1:05:36
  Yeah, but I don't think the gorge is like dead center.
• 1:05:43
  Yeah, yeah, Yep, 20. Six months.
• 1:05:46
  I've only been to Kentucky briefly when I was younger for a
• 1:05:50
  friend's graduation. So the, the, so anyway, when,
• 1:05:54
  when you came up here, like Murfreesboro, like where, where
• 1:05:58
  I live in, it's, I'm right by the Stones River and huge amount
• 1:06:02
  of Civil War history that happened here.
• 1:06:05
  You know, so you talk about the land and the things that
• 1:06:08
  happened and, you know, memories of, of whatnot.
• 1:06:11
  It's I live right on the Stones River.
• 1:06:13
  And you know, you realize like this is this was such a crucial
• 1:06:17
  part of the war. You know, people, battles were
• 1:06:21
  fought and won on these on these on the shores of this river and
• 1:06:26
  and then you live right by it and it's it's, it's a, it's kind
• 1:06:29
  of like a, it's a big thing for me at least it's, you know, to
• 1:06:32
  be around that kind of history and.
• 1:06:36
  There's battlefields here near, and there's battlefields here in
• 1:06:40
  the county that I live as well. The college here has history
• 1:06:45
  too. It used to be at all women's
• 1:06:46
  college right before the Civil War.
• 1:06:50
  Oh yeah. And in exchange for letting them
• 1:06:53
  use it as a hospital place for the soldiers, for the unions,
• 1:06:58
  union soldiers, they just, they spared it from being burnt.
• 1:07:04
  And they, the other condition, they was they, they slept with
• 1:07:06
  the women. Yeah, I'll just say what else
• 1:07:08
  does, what else is else is good for them there?
• 1:07:12
  Yeah. And then and then the story is
• 1:07:14
  it being from being all women's scholars to Unisense college.
• 1:07:20
  Oh yeah, community style college kind of thing.
• 1:07:23
  Coed they call it I think. Yeah, because the Founders Hall,
• 1:07:28
  the main building Founders Hall predates the Civil War and you
• 1:07:32
  could tell it predates because of all the because of the the
• 1:07:35
  massive column work and stuff. Interesting.
• 1:07:41
  That's where they host, that's where they host our annual
• 1:07:43
  fillers convention each year right there.
• 1:07:46
  They do the competitions right there on this, on the step of
• 1:07:48
  Founders Hall, and I've been in it several times.
• 1:07:53
  I used to compete on top of that.
• 1:07:55
  What? I used to compete in the
• 1:07:57
  harmonica. Oh really?
• 1:08:01
  I didn't know you played a harmonica too.
• 1:08:04
  Oh yeah. Does the beard get in the way?
• 1:08:08
  Nowadays it does. I didn't have a beard at the
• 1:08:11
  back then, or much of A beard. I had a goatee at the time.
• 1:08:16
  Yeah, I can imagine the hairs get in the way of the reeds.
• 1:08:20
  Oh yeah, kind of. Yeah.
• 1:08:22
  It was like the I I played that. I still can play it a little
• 1:08:26
  bit, but I don't play it as much as I used to, but I used to get
• 1:08:31
  at least at least in the top five.
• 1:08:39
  I'm assuming that's a pretty good.
• 1:08:41
  I'm assuming that there's there's plenty of harmonicist in
• 1:08:44
  the area of where you're from. I would just that that just be a
• 1:08:48
  wild guess. They're from all over the
• 1:08:49
  They're all over the country. Oh, it was like a big thing,
• 1:08:52
  like a big competition, like a. Yeah, like the Phils, the Phil
• 1:08:56
  competition brings people from all over the country.
• 1:08:59
  Oh. OK, wow.
• 1:09:00
  I thought it was like a local thing or something that you
• 1:09:03
  were. Into now we actually, my one of
• 1:09:05
  our friends, my friends of the family who's been playing with
• 1:09:11
  us for a long time. He's from Michigan and he has,
• 1:09:17
  he also has a, he also has a house in Florida that he goes to
• 1:09:21
  like, like during the winter, I guess.
• 1:09:25
  Well, yeah, if you're going to if you're going to winter over
• 1:09:27
  in Michigan, then I would I would go South.
• 1:09:29
  Too. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:31
  But he, he plays a lot, of course.
• 1:09:35
  He's very Christian religious, you know, and plays a lot of
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  religious stuff, like like bluegrass gospel stuff.
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  But oh man. When he say or or country
• 1:09:48
  gospel, you know, but I mean some of that stuff, some of that
• 1:09:54
  stuff I do like the sound of, but I don't like the message
• 1:09:57
  behind. The I mean, you could probably,
• 1:10:00
  I guess like if you like the sound of it, but I mean, and I'm
• 1:10:03
  sorry this is a dig, but it's just like, yeah, they all sound
• 1:10:07
  like they're hole in their nose and it's like.
• 1:10:10
  Yeah, it's that those high, high pitched sound.
• 1:10:13
  I can sing like that too, like for like bluegrass stuff.
• 1:10:17
  But the bluegrass gospel is is a little different animals that as
• 1:10:21
  like more of a the way he sings. He has that that Hank senior
• 1:10:27
  wine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:30
  Yeah, when he sings, he can do. He does a lot of stuff and which
• 1:10:33
  is while that's done like in the key of E.
• 1:10:39
  For me, it's done in the key of no, because I'm not about it.
• 1:10:43
  I don't get down with it. My wife actually likes some of
• 1:10:45
  the older country, like the Southern gospel type stuff, you
• 1:10:48
  know? Yeah, and the reason I like.
• 1:10:49
  I like so much is because it's bluegrass, yeah, but I do like
• 1:10:53
  bluegrass music still. Because.
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  If you if you talk about like a lot of the and I'll do like all
• 1:11:00
  the Appalachians now folk which has roots, which has roots,
• 1:11:07
  yeah, which has root. The old fiddle tunes, old time
• 1:11:10
  music is like is my own instructor calls that a lot of
• 1:11:15
  this has roots and all over the place as roots and Irish music,
• 1:11:19
  Scottish music, Canadian music, French, all kinds of stuff.
• 1:11:25
  And but bluegrass has roots in like jazz and like ragtime all
• 1:11:36
  the way into into like Blues into to that Appalachian folk.
• 1:11:43
  Yeah, well, you've got to think like when the, the, the lands of
• 1:11:46
  Appalachia that were settled were settled mostly by Scottish
• 1:11:50
  and, and, and English and, and, and the Irish, right.
• 1:11:53
  So the Celtic sounds. And if you go like, have you
• 1:11:57
  ever seen this? There's a there's like a video
• 1:11:59
  tutorial. Not tutorial, but there's like a
• 1:12:01
  video of this lady explaining the Southern drawl, the Southern
• 1:12:05
  accent. Yeah.
• 1:12:07
  How different it is depending on where you go.
• 1:12:10
  Like if you go to the Deep South, like in Mississippi, it's
• 1:12:13
  going to be a totally different accent down there.
• 1:12:15
  Whereas if you go over there to, you know, Georgia, you know, she
• 1:12:20
  goes through this whole like thing and then she gets up into
• 1:12:22
  Appalachia and there's a bit of a sing song for us to it.
• 1:12:25
  And, and, and, and it traces back like old European, the
• 1:12:30
  when, when their accents were what they were and they migrated
• 1:12:33
  over here and they settled and, and how the, the, the, the
• 1:12:35
  dialects and the, and the accents and stuff evolved.
• 1:12:39
  It's all from, from that part of the world.
• 1:12:41
  So the music definitely had a had a part in influencing early
• 1:12:46
  American folk. Music.
• 1:12:47
  Well, here's a here's an interesting fact.
• 1:12:49
  Have you ever seen this? Have you ever seen this fact
• 1:12:51
  that's floating around the Appalachians mountains?
• 1:12:56
  Used to be this a part of the same region as the Scottish
• 1:12:59
  Highlands and the hills of Ireland.
• 1:13:05
  Well, the yeah, because, well, Appalachia is as old as as it's
• 1:13:09
  it's the oldest. Yeah.
• 1:13:11
  It's part of the oldest mountain range because when when
• 1:13:13
  everything was together in the in the great.
• 1:13:15
  Continent, it shifted. And everything.
• 1:13:16
  The Panja, yeah, Africa there, there's part of that Appalachian
• 1:13:20
  mountain range is is originated. Africa, yeah, and part of it's
• 1:13:24
  also in in Norway. Norway, yeah.
• 1:13:28
  So like there's, there's a huge shift of everything that, that,
• 1:13:31
  that happened and that's where it all originated, which is when
• 1:13:35
  I go every year when. I go blue.
• 1:13:37
  Ridge Mountains. It's, it's such a, it's such a
• 1:13:39
  reconnection to old, old, oldest, you know, spirit of, of,
• 1:13:45
  of the land of the world. Yeah, like because I guess they
• 1:13:51
  connected with it. That's the reason why they
• 1:13:53
  connected with it, because it had that spirit of their old
• 1:13:55
  homeland, it looked like. I mean, it does look like it.
• 1:13:59
  There's a lot of place it looks like it.
• 1:14:01
  Looks like the Highlands without without the coast.
• 1:14:05
  Yeah, this the, the, you go through the Grayson Highlands
• 1:14:12
  in, in northwestern North Carolina, you know, start
• 1:14:16
  getting into the Blue Ridge Mountains with the Grayson
• 1:14:17
  Highlands. You would man you, you, you're
• 1:14:19
  coming down from Virginia into that area.
• 1:14:21
  You, you'd swear you're in like Europe because it just it's all
• 1:14:25
  rolling hills and farm lands and it's, it does it's very
• 1:14:28
  reminiscent. And all the Evergreen trees and
• 1:14:32
  stuff that are prevalent in the, in the, in the northern Europe,
• 1:14:37
  they, they, they thrive there in those elevations.
• 1:14:39
  So it does it's it's very reminiscent, I think of their of
• 1:14:43
  their homeland. So yeah, all that culture came.
• 1:14:46
  Along with them, but it's all it's also, I mean, he settled
• 1:14:49
  down even down through here because we're still part of
• 1:14:52
  Appalachia here. The Appalachian Plateau itself
• 1:14:56
  extends all the way down to where I live is it's hilly where
• 1:15:02
  I'm where in my, in my town, even in Huntsville, you can tell
• 1:15:05
  it's hilly because once you get east of Huntsville, you get
• 1:15:10
  you're getting into the southern smoking there.
• 1:15:15
  Yes. And then, yeah, you got
• 1:15:17
  realized. Yeah, it's looking at mountain
• 1:15:19
  goes into, from, goes from Tennessee into Georgia into
• 1:15:25
  North Alabama all at once. And then, then it goes all the
• 1:15:30
  way down to Birmingham. Like they were thinking about
• 1:15:35
  extending the Appalachian Trail from from Mount Springer instead
• 1:15:42
  of it going to Mount Springer. They were thinking about taking
• 1:15:47
  it busy. I'm pay Holy trail that goes
• 1:15:50
  through Alabama, through Georgia.
• 1:15:52
  It connects into that. It's a connector into the
• 1:15:55
  Appalachian Trail up there. Oh wow.
• 1:15:58
  And it goes all the way down to the Talladega National Forest,
• 1:16:01
  which is where Mount Chihai is, which is our, which is our
• 1:16:04
  highest point. It does.
• 1:16:08
  It goes, it goes pretty far South and it goes quite far
• 1:16:11
  north too. Oh yeah, all the way up into all
• 1:16:16
  the way up into Canada. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:20
  Then you got the Adirondacks too.
• 1:16:21
  That go further EA Little bit, yeah, but yeah.
• 1:16:24
  I think they're, I think they're part of that same, the same
• 1:16:27
  range. Might be right.
• 1:16:33
  Because I think if they, I think they were part of the originally
• 1:16:35
  part when they were formed, they're part of the same range.
• 1:16:38
  But they wrote again, they they were probably as tall as the
• 1:16:41
  Rockies were are now, but they wrote it down.
• 1:16:46
  Appalachian Mountains. Let's see here.
• 1:16:50
  Mount Mitchell is the highest point.
• 1:16:52
  I've been there. Yeah, I forget it's native name,
• 1:16:56
  but. Mount.
• 1:16:59
  Mitchell Yep, Mount Mitchell is the highest point of the
• 1:17:03
  Appalachian mountain range, which is in Yancey County, North
• 1:17:08
  Carolina. And I forget, it's what is.
• 1:17:10
  It's yeah. Mount Mitchell is the highest
• 1:17:14
  peak of the Appalachian Mountains and the highest peak
• 1:17:16
  of mainland North America east of the Mississippi.
• 1:17:20
  See, I always thought it was. I thought it was Mount Katatan
• 1:17:24
  and up in Maine. Nope.
• 1:17:28
  You they would like to think though.
• 1:17:31
  But yeah, the Appalachian range runs from the islands of
• 1:17:33
  Newfoundland in Canada to central Alabama.
• 1:17:38
  So that's Birmingham? Yep.
• 1:17:42
  Exactly. Mitchell.
• 1:17:44
  What is its? I want to know its native name.
• 1:17:49
  Mount Mitchell. The Cherokee people.
• 1:17:54
  Yeah, the Cherokee people who long occupied the area as part
• 1:17:56
  of their land homeland called the mountain Otakula.
• 1:18:02
  That's how I think. I think I think the.
• 1:18:05
  Mitchell. Well, because, well, you don't.
• 1:18:07
  You want to know why it's called Mount Mitchell?
• 1:18:10
  It's because the dude he fell in, he felony died on the
• 1:18:15
  mountain. So they named him.
• 1:18:17
  Yeah. Elijah Mitchell.
• 1:18:19
  He was a professor of the University of North Carolina.
• 1:18:22
  He first explored the Black Mountain ranges in 18-8 Black
• 1:18:26
  Mountain region in 1835. He determined that the height of
• 1:18:29
  the range exceeded by several 100 feet that of Mountain,
• 1:18:32
  Washington and New Hampshire, which is, I think what you were
• 1:18:35
  maybe thinking of or close. But then Elijah Mitchell, the
• 1:18:40
  latter had been commonly thought of at the time to be the highest
• 1:18:43
  point. So, so Mount Washington used to
• 1:18:45
  be thought of as the highest point.
• 1:18:47
  Elijah Mitchell determined that Aracola was taller.
• 1:18:54
  And then he died near Mitchell Falls in 1857.
• 1:19:01
  Because he was going back to verify his measurements.
• 1:19:04
  He was going back to make sure that what he said was true.
• 1:19:07
  Yeah. But Mitchell Falls.
• 1:19:09
  He fell off of it and died. And so they then named the the
• 1:19:14
  They named the thing after him. They named the mountain after
• 1:19:17
  him. So he fell.
• 1:19:18
  He fell off the falls. So guys, yeah, he he falled.
• 1:19:22
  So, so the, the moral story, moral of the story is if you
• 1:19:26
  want a place named after you, just die some sort of way there
• 1:19:30
  doesn't even have to be heroic. Just, you know, trip and bust
• 1:19:32
  your ass and tumble down the mountain and, and Blake, you
• 1:19:35
  know, you could have, you could have a mountain called Mount
• 1:19:38
  Russell or Mount Blake or something for all you know,
• 1:19:40
  right? Just do something cool and and
• 1:19:43
  die there and they'll name it after you.
• 1:19:45
  The thing is, I have a whole town now named as my last name,
• 1:19:48
  Russellville. That's right, you do.
• 1:19:52
  Because there's a, there's a there the my original name, my,
• 1:19:56
  my family name, my family, my adopted family on my dad's side
• 1:20:02
  originally started out in South Central Alabama.
• 1:20:07
  Close to around near Auburn area in LA call Laverne Alabama and
• 1:20:15
  they umm then my my my grandmother and my grandfather
• 1:20:21
  on on his side of the family. His mother and father moved to
• 1:20:25
  Georgia ever, ever his service in the umm, umm, in the Army
• 1:20:33
  because he was a truck driver. Nice.
• 1:20:37
  So, but there's also a lot of Russell's up in Pulaski too.
• 1:20:41
  I've seen, I've seen a lot of grave sites at the men's
• 1:20:44
  cemetery there, which that cemetery also has a plate.
• 1:20:48
  And one of the cemeteries, there's a marker.
• 1:20:50
  There's like 4 markers. They're marked by three stack of
• 1:20:54
  cannonballs. Civil War cannonballs.
• 1:20:58
  We've got a lot of those types of monuments around here too,
• 1:21:00
  where they, they, they, they stack, you know, it's like a
• 1:21:05
  pyramid sometimes. Yeah, yeah, like a whole.
• 1:21:08
  Thing like a like a like a stack of four.
• 1:21:11
  And you know what, I don't know if you've ever seen the people
• 1:21:13
  come, you know, they do. They try to bust them, bust them
• 1:21:16
  apart so they can take them. I think that's.
• 1:21:18
  Some shit. Vandalize.
• 1:21:20
  Them, yeah. In assholes.
• 1:21:23
  But, but there was a lot of Russell's.
• 1:21:25
  It was with my spell, the spelling of my name.
• 1:21:27
  But see, that's The thing is, my last name is actually Scottish.
• 1:21:35
  Yeah. And my my mate, my mother's
• 1:21:39
  main, my adopted mother's maiden name is Craig, which is Scotch
• 1:21:43
  Irish, has Scottish and Irish lineage into it.
• 1:21:50
  And Craig, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:21:53
  Old Elijah Craig. I knew that guy once.
• 1:21:56
  Yeah, I was kidding. I don't.
• 1:21:57
  I just drank the whiskey or the bourbon or whatever it was a
• 1:21:59
  bit. Oh yeah.
• 1:21:59
  But yeah, there's a lot of Craig, one of the Craigs in
• 1:22:04
  Athens and my grandfather knew or knows or was related to which
• 1:22:10
  I found out that one of the one of the people that there's a a
• 1:22:15
  machine shop that was behind my grandfather's lumberyard across
• 1:22:22
  the tracks that was on was the the nephew was the guy I was
• 1:22:28
  friends with in high school. And it turns out his uncle was
• 1:22:37
  related to my grandfather. And so I guess that means me him
• 1:22:41
  related somehow down the line. You know what I found out, dude,
• 1:22:45
  when I moved to the South almost 20 years ago, actually this year
• 1:22:49
  when I, when I moved to, to, to Tennessee from New York, I moved
• 1:22:52
  down here. I I started realizing just how
• 1:22:55
  much how how much related everybody is.
• 1:22:58
  Yeah. 'Cause like, you know, I'd, I'd
• 1:23:01
  be with somebody, right? I don't know anybody from Adam.
• 1:23:03
  And then, you know, I'm with this person and they see
• 1:23:05
  somebody in the store or at a freaking drive through and a
• 1:23:08
  restaurant and they're stopping and they're talking like, how do
• 1:23:10
  you know them? Oh, that's my cousin so and so
• 1:23:12
  that's my uncle, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:23:13
  And I'm like, how will you be like?
• 1:23:17
  Small towns there Athens started out as a small town, so it it
• 1:23:22
  had little people and then. Little people meaning like a low
• 1:23:28
  population, not meaning like small.
• 1:23:30
  Expatcher, right? Yeah, like.
• 1:23:32
  Not, not, not a city of Oompa Loompas or dwarfs or.
• 1:23:35
  Whatever the right room is. So it started out with everybody
• 1:23:38
  knowing, either knowing everybody or being related to
• 1:23:41
  everybody in some way. Not in like an inbreeding kind
• 1:23:44
  of way, but you know, it's like. Yeah, we got some class.
• 1:23:47
  We're not Arkansas. Give us a break here.
• 1:23:48
  Like no. Yeah, it's like, it's like the I
• 1:23:53
  think somehow inbreeding breaks down after like 4 cousins twice
• 1:23:56
  removed. Or somehow it does, I think.
• 1:23:59
  Yeah, or something like that. Because some people did marry
• 1:24:01
  their marry their third or fourth cousins.
• 1:24:04
  You know, I've heard, I've heard stories where people in my
• 1:24:07
  family have done that like that, like the earlier generation
• 1:24:12
  before my my grandmother's generation would do that.
• 1:24:16
  Yeah. Well, because when you live in a
• 1:24:19
  small town, like, what else are you going to do?
• 1:24:20
  But yeah, that and then not that I wouldn't, yeah.
• 1:24:23
  It was before Athens, before Athens became like this.
• 1:24:27
  It's like we've become the the dumping grounds for housing for
• 1:24:34
  people who who commute to Huntsville, basically.
• 1:24:39
  What's the biggest thing you guys have going on in Huntsville
• 1:24:41
  anyway? Like we were there and I'm like,
• 1:24:44
  it's a city, right? Definitely.
• 1:24:45
  But it ain't like, yeah, you know, what's the, what's the
• 1:24:48
  biggest form of, of industry or what, what's the biggest thing
• 1:24:51
  going on in Huntsville these days?
• 1:24:52
  Is there a plant or or or manufacturing facility?
• 1:24:57
  Or aerospace. Aerospace.
• 1:25:00
  Oh, that's right, because you used to have the the, the, the,
• 1:25:03
  the rocket that they. We are.
• 1:25:05
  We are. We still do rockets there.
• 1:25:07
  We're still NASA's. NASA has a headquarters at
• 1:25:09
  Marshall Space Flight Center. That's right.
• 1:25:12
  They still do all the all the stuff.
• 1:25:14
  They even made some of the even bits of the ISS you know they've
• 1:25:19
  done. Yeah.
• 1:25:21
  Well, that used to be like the landmark out there on the
• 1:25:23
  Interstate was at 65. They used to have that.
• 1:25:26
  Rocket, yeah, they tore that one down.
• 1:25:27
  They tore that one down. They think about putting a
• 1:25:29
  different one up there, but it was it was becoming, it was so
• 1:25:32
  becoming so aged because it was an actual rocket is a Saturn.
• 1:25:36
  It was a S it was a Saturn 1B rocket and they had Saturn 1A.
• 1:25:44
  They have a, they used to have a, the biggest rocket at the
• 1:25:47
  space for Rocket Center was the center 1BA or a center 1A.
• 1:25:51
  And they hit a center 1B in the Interstate.
• 1:25:54
  Yeah, there when you come in. Yeah, that's a good deal when
• 1:25:57
  they pick that out. That's up in the Ardmore, it's
• 1:26:00
  like close to that's like about 15 minutes from where I live and
• 1:26:07
  they, they removed it because it was getting 8 so aged that they
• 1:26:11
  wanted to take it down and stuff.
• 1:26:14
  So they did. I could have refurbished it
• 1:26:16
  maybe, I don't know. I think it'd be AI, think the
• 1:26:18
  outkeep would have been a lot more I guess, but I think they
• 1:26:22
  wanted to put like something more different, like a more
• 1:26:24
  modern rocket there. But but of a put what Elon
• 1:26:29
  Musk's SpaceX pods? Or something but there or one or
• 1:26:34
  one of the newer ones that NASA came out with.
• 1:26:37
  Yeah, yeah. Keep it true to form, you know.
• 1:26:39
  Because we're, we're still involved with that here and over
• 1:26:44
  there. There's all doing stuff with
• 1:26:46
  that, but very cool. But it's also not just that.
• 1:26:50
  It's also become the, it's basically the Silicon Valley of
• 1:26:56
  the South. There's I.
• 1:26:57
  Knew you were. I knew you were going to say
• 1:26:58
  that. Yeah, I knew you were going to
• 1:27:01
  say that. I'm like, well, I'm going to ask
• 1:27:02
  Blake what's going on. He's going to be like, we're the
• 1:27:04
  Silicon Valley of the South. Yeah, I know.
• 1:27:07
  Basically that's what it is because we have a lot of, we
• 1:27:12
  have a lot of, I like programming companies there.
• 1:27:17
  We have Raytheon is over there, Intergraph is over there.
• 1:27:24
  I have a friend who works, she works for the for them, but
• 1:27:29
  she's she works as a home base operate programmer now for them.
• 1:27:34
  And then we have a see what else we have.
• 1:27:37
  It's like all sorts of things going on.
• 1:27:40
  I remember we had also had Curse gaming over there at one point.
• 1:27:44
  Oh, OK. If you if you remember Curse
• 1:27:47
  Gaming, they used to do all the add-ons for World of Warcraft.
• 1:27:54
  Yeah, the Wow people are going to go ape shit over that now.
• 1:27:57
  Oh, wow, really? I'm going to come to Huntsville.
• 1:27:59
  Yeah, that's where, that's where I.
• 1:28:00
  Mean the board. Yeah.
• 1:28:02
  We, we, we had that. We had that when there.
• 1:28:07
  I don't remember where it's at. We also now have the A, the MTM
• 1:28:11
  is there now Mazda Toyo Motors that we also have another Toyota
• 1:28:18
  plant there as well. And so you guys, yeah.
• 1:28:25
  And we're becoming big on the entertainment or tourist
• 1:28:28
  entertainment industry is now getting up there.
• 1:28:32
  Now we're getting a lot of good bands coming in and stuff.
• 1:28:36
  Yeah, I mean, shit, you got you had high lung come down there.
• 1:28:39
  I know there's other I've seen, I've seen some really good bands
• 1:28:43
  at. We have LL scooper comes at
• 1:28:46
  least every year, at least once a year.
• 1:28:50
  Yeah, they're in Nashville too. It's like a good spot for the
• 1:28:52
  for the for the for the tour circuit to hit either Huntsville
• 1:28:56
  or Nashville or, yeah, Louisville, somewhere in that
• 1:28:59
  line. Oh yeah, we have.
• 1:29:02
  But it's. All the bills just hitting all
• 1:29:05
  the bills up, you know? Yeah.
• 1:29:07
  We fancy. It's becoming, I mean, the only
• 1:29:09
  thing is I wish they would get more like smaller like known
• 1:29:13
  bands and stuff because while they're coming in the burn, like
• 1:29:16
  a lot of the good ones are coming into Birmingham this
• 1:29:18
  year, like a Monmarth with Panteras coming in the in the
• 1:29:22
  Birmingham. And I'm like, why didn't
• 1:29:25
  Huntsville pick that one up? And.
• 1:29:28
  Then I think it's a lot to do with just their management and
• 1:29:33
  seeing, you know, how they're going to hit the big, the big,
• 1:29:35
  the big, the big cities that are going to bring them in, you
• 1:29:38
  know, a good crowd. What's up?
• 1:29:39
  Bernard Davis there on Facebook says hello.
• 1:29:43
  I'm not going to. Be able to go to the Modern
• 1:29:46
  Model concert though because those tickets are a little
• 1:29:49
  pricey because of Pantera. Dude, yeah.
• 1:29:52
  Yeah, but the one I'm going to go, probably go see too, is
• 1:29:55
  going to be down there in October's hailstorm.
• 1:30:00
  Oh dude, that'll be fun. Like the and L Storm, Yeah,
• 1:30:09
  yeah, they're the tickets are like they were like $46 for
• 1:30:13
  general mission. Well, that ain't it.
• 1:30:16
  That's doable. That that is not bad, Like,
• 1:30:20
  yeah, compared to ticket prices now and then I'm like, I may
• 1:30:24
  actually swing that if I get somebody to go with me.
• 1:30:28
  I don't like going alone. My wife's the same way.
• 1:30:32
  Yeah, she doesn't like. Traveling alone is like, I
• 1:30:38
  don't, I wouldn't mind going to shows by myself.
• 1:30:40
  It was like somewhere close to home, like say like Huntsville,
• 1:30:43
  but going like somewhere like the Birmingham or traveling all
• 1:30:46
  the way to Atlanta by myself or to Nashville by myself for just
• 1:30:51
  a concert. It's a bit of a hall it.
• 1:30:53
  Seems like it's kind of a risky thing.
• 1:30:57
  I yeah, I definitely get you. And it's always nice to have,
• 1:31:00
  you know, companions to, to go along with Speaking of like
• 1:31:06
  shows and and and stuff. I had I had a pretty when I say
• 1:31:09
  I had something weird happened to me today, I mean in not just
• 1:31:14
  the sense like when I say weird, I mean beyond just odd.
• 1:31:19
  I mean like WYRD weird. OK, seven years ago today, I had
• 1:31:28
  been asked to go. I had been asked to join a local
• 1:31:32
  metal band on stage to kind of like do some vocals with them at
• 1:31:39
  A at a show that they were performing at.
• 1:31:42
  Yeah. And it was a show in Nashville
• 1:31:44
  and my wife and I both went and I had, you know, I had.
• 1:31:49
  So seven years ago, you know, I had probably recently launched
• 1:31:53
  Midgard Musings, you know. Yeah, it was, it was right
• 1:31:57
  around that time. Soon thereafter, because, you
• 1:31:59
  know, I, I started, I started Midgard Musings in, in April.
• 1:32:03
  And so when I, when I went, so I got asked by this band.
• 1:32:11
  Barnard says it's all about the experience.
• 1:32:14
  But experience, those are better shared.
• 1:32:16
  Yeah, for sure. But when I went to this when I
• 1:32:20
  went to this concert, the the the the vocalist of the metal
• 1:32:24
  band was also at the time into the Norse Pagan stuff, you know
• 1:32:30
  what I mean? They had a really nice mule near
• 1:32:34
  that almost had that kind of like the the stern mule near
• 1:32:38
  that that didn't on our revealed in I think it's skern or skon
• 1:32:43
  mule near shape Skein, skein, skern, Skern.
• 1:32:46
  Yeah, the the skein mule near that in Sweden that they dug up
• 1:32:49
  like a 1200. Years ago like like this one
• 1:32:51
  here. Yes, exactly right.
• 1:32:54
  Yeah. So their Milliner was that they
• 1:32:56
  wore was very, very much styled like that really substantial and
• 1:33:01
  I. I have one.
• 1:33:02
  I have one like that when my my second Milliner was that I ended
• 1:33:06
  up gifting that to a friend of mine like last year.
• 1:33:10
  So they, they knew I, you know, practicing and they, they've,
• 1:33:15
  they've sensed, had, you know, their whole life had changed,
• 1:33:20
  ended, ended a marriage, moved out of state.
• 1:33:22
  You know, they're going out to the West Coast, do this huge,
• 1:33:25
  like 2500 mile long hike up the Pacific Coast or something soon.
• 1:33:29
  And anyway, they've been out of state for a while.
• 1:33:32
  They've been living in like Illinois or somewhere.
• 1:33:35
  And so they came, they had been back and I got a random message
• 1:33:38
  from them on Facebook today saying, Hey, you know, I'm in
• 1:33:42
  town for the next, like I'm in town today.
• 1:33:44
  I'm getting rid of a lot of stuff that I don't need any
• 1:33:46
  more. And I had a couple of things
• 1:33:48
  that I wanted to give you if you're wanting them, one of
• 1:33:51
  which is my old mule near because they don't, they have,
• 1:33:55
  they haven't pursued the path any further, you know.
• 1:33:58
  And so I said, wow, you know, if you're wanting to part with such
• 1:34:02
  a thing, it would, I'm honored that you'd want to pass it to me
• 1:34:08
  because there's so much history, You know, when, when, when you
• 1:34:11
  wear something on your body, especially something of a
• 1:34:13
  religious artifact or a religious symbol like that,
• 1:34:17
  that, that is, that is very much tied to the person.
• 1:34:21
  And then when they want to part with it, you know, the, the
• 1:34:25
  thinking of like, I understand, like there's, there's a lot of
• 1:34:27
  different reasons why they might not want to, they don't
• 1:34:30
  associate with it anymore. It's not something that they
• 1:34:32
  typically they don't technically believe in or pursue.
• 1:34:36
  So they want to depart with it, but they don't want to depart
• 1:34:37
  with it and just toss it. They want to pass it to, to, to
• 1:34:41
  some. So they still have a sense of
• 1:34:43
  its meaning, its importance, and for them to come out and reach
• 1:34:48
  to me and say, Hey, would you like to, to take this?
• 1:34:51
  It was almost like a, like a, like a passing of a, of an
• 1:34:53
  artifact. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:34:55
  I, I don't want to get rid of it, but I want it to be taken
• 1:34:58
  care of and, and appreciated by somebody.
• 1:35:01
  And it what was interesting again is that, that, that, that
• 1:35:04
  me only or pendant was worn by that singer, that singer.
• 1:35:07
  They they reached out to me today and delivered it to me in
• 1:35:10
  hand seven years to the day ago when they wore it.
• 1:35:15
  And I owe them last one. One of the last times I saw them
• 1:35:18
  was on that stage. Oh wow, yeah.
• 1:35:20
  And I got the and I got that necklace that they wore 7 years
• 1:35:24
  ago and it's been all over the country, different places, you
• 1:35:28
  know, and they still had it and it, and it came to me how weird,
• 1:35:32
  meaning like WYRD, how weird is that?
• 1:35:36
  Yeah, it's kind of like how, well, the reason why I gifted
• 1:35:41
  mine to him is he was in a in a bad place because his his step
• 1:35:45
  dad was on his deathbed when he was here.
• 1:35:47
  So he did, he passed away, his mom then followed from cancer
• 1:35:55
  and stuff. But I, I get to tell him, not
• 1:35:56
  because he was following the path, but as a sign of our
• 1:36:00
  friendship more often. And plus I, we were going to the
• 1:36:05
  rent. We went to the Tennessee rent
• 1:36:07
  for that, that that year as last year as well.
• 1:36:10
  And I gifted it to him too, so he can look the part, you know,
• 1:36:15
  as well. The instead of like, it's like
• 1:36:18
  you just, you know, just keep this thing and just take it back
• 1:36:21
  with you, the to to Wales with you and as a, as a symbol of our
• 1:36:26
  friendship kind of thing. Oh, so he's from, he's from,
• 1:36:29
  from, from Wales. He's from here, but.
• 1:36:32
  He. He.
• 1:36:34
  Moved to OK, he he married a a woman from Manchester 10 or
• 1:36:41
  Manchester, Manchester 10 Shire or Manchester Shire yeah.
• 1:36:48
  OK. Yeah, England and they moved
• 1:36:52
  from, they moved there from the he moved over there with her
• 1:36:55
  after they married. Gotcha.
• 1:36:57
  And then he moved from, they both moved from there to
• 1:37:03
  somewhere in Wales. Like I can't remember exactly
• 1:37:05
  where, but they live near the coast.
• 1:37:08
  OK. So they live like like down near
• 1:37:16
  a base, kind of like, it's kind of like a base kind of like
• 1:37:19
  where it's like the whales version of our Blue Angels.
• 1:37:25
  OK, so like their their, their Air Force or their?
• 1:37:28
  Their training base, it's kind of like where where are the Blue
• 1:37:32
  Angels here train is down in Pensacola, FL.
• 1:37:35
  So it's kind of like their their version of Pensacola, their
• 1:37:38
  Pensacola training base for their version of Blue Angels.
• 1:37:42
  It's the red something but. The Red Barons.
• 1:37:48
  No, I don't. Know that's that's Snoopy.
• 1:37:49
  Never mind that. Yeah, it's it's I forgot what
• 1:37:54
  the name of their their group is called, but they kind of do the
• 1:37:57
  stunts and the little formation stunts and everything like that.
• 1:38:02
  But they moved there and he came back over, he came back over
• 1:38:07
  here to to take care of his mom, his mom well and or take care of
• 1:38:12
  his his stepfather while his one with the chemo treatments, but.
• 1:38:21
  So anyway, he got he got your Mjolnir and he brought it back
• 1:38:24
  to Wales when he. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the sounds of
• 1:38:28
  our friendship. That's cool, yeah.
• 1:38:30
  Does he still have it? Huh.
• 1:38:32
  Does. He still have it.
• 1:38:35
  I'm assuming he does. I haven't communicated to him
• 1:38:37
  since then, but we we do communicate every now and then,
• 1:38:43
  but we don't communicate as often as we should.
• 1:38:47
  But I'm assuming he did keep it. Yeah, it's, it's only been a
• 1:38:51
  year since about a year since he had it, since he left.
• 1:38:54
  And but I, I gave it to him as a, as a the keep to put that at
• 1:38:59
  least put my own look into him, you know?
• 1:39:04
  Yeah. Not not to convert him or
• 1:39:06
  anything. It was not to do that.
• 1:39:08
  I was just saying here, just keep this as a sight, as a
• 1:39:11
  symbol of our friendship. Our friendship?
• 1:39:13
  Sure. Sure.
• 1:39:14
  Yeah. It's don't believe in this stuff
• 1:39:17
  like I do. It's something, it's a part of
• 1:39:20
  me. It's something meaningful to me.
• 1:39:23
  I've worn it for so many years. I had retired as my main mule
• 1:39:26
  near for this one that I wear now, this little small one,
• 1:39:29
  because I went the humble route, you know.
• 1:39:34
  But that big old gaudy, like, you know, was it Flava Flav with
• 1:39:38
  the huge clock, you know? Yeah, I had the big, they had
• 1:39:41
  the big the big wolf's head thing, King's wolf.
• 1:39:45
  Head Oh, the King's chains. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:39:46
  Yeah, it was the one I got for rim Frost and stuff.
• 1:39:49
  And so that was and that's so I retired that as my main mule
• 1:39:55
  near and then I have that other one I got from Zeb that I still
• 1:40:00
  use for a ritual. He makes some good pieces, man.
• 1:40:04
  Everybody that we still alive here.
• 1:40:08
  Yep, there he is. Yeah, you, you froze.
• 1:40:11
  Sorry, Yeah, you did too. And I was like, did we lose
• 1:40:13
  them? Did did I lose me?
• 1:40:14
  Anyway, we're back. But Zeb Croom Skogermore.
• 1:40:18
  Yeah, good, good quality stuff. Y'all Y'all check him out for
• 1:40:22
  sure. We need to get, we need to
• 1:40:24
  somehow get, get him down here to the out North Alabama side
• 1:40:28
  because to perform and stuff. You want to know something
• 1:40:30
  funny? That man, I love that man.
• 1:40:33
  I'm I'm I've been friends with him for longer than I've been
• 1:40:37
  friends with bright spirit JM. You know, JM the Albatier,
• 1:40:44
  right? I've been Zeb longer than I've
• 1:40:47
  been friends with, with, with JM at the albatier.
• 1:40:50
  It's because of me that those two guys know each other and
• 1:40:53
  that the I I introduced them. But and and and Zeb comes over
• 1:40:58
  to Tennessee. I wouldn't say often, but he has
• 1:41:02
  it. His tattoo artist Luke is, is in
• 1:41:04
  out of Hendersonville and his tattoo artist and, and his wife
• 1:41:08
  are are are they, they just relocated to a new tattoo shop.
• 1:41:12
  She's going through cancer treatments.
• 1:41:14
  It's a whole big thing. So he comes back and forth and
• 1:41:16
  I'm like, dude, you're in Hendersonville.
• 1:41:18
  I'm an hour from you. Normally we're like 6 hours
• 1:41:21
  apart. And then you come out here and
• 1:41:23
  then I'll find out like after the fact.
• 1:41:24
  I'll find out after the fact that he was here.
• 1:41:26
  And I'm like, you couldn't tell me man.
• 1:41:28
  Like you couldn't let me know. I'm like, he's like, well, I was
• 1:41:31
  in and out. I'm like, yeah, no shit, like
• 1:41:34
  hang out a while, you know, like stay in then don't you realize,
• 1:41:36
  you know, you got you, you know, for it to for it to for it to be
• 1:41:39
  enjoyable, you got to stay in there for a little while.
• 1:41:41
  You can't just in and out. Bam, bam, bam.
• 1:41:44
  Thank you, ma'am, like, you know, holler at you, boy.
• 1:41:47
  Let me know you're in town so I can you know, but he does.
• 1:41:50
  He comes over here, not a lot, but it's it's frequently enough
• 1:41:53
  where I've given him some shit and some said, brother, if you
• 1:41:56
  if you watch this now, you know, don't see it now, but if you see
• 1:41:59
  this later, you know, next time you come to Tennessee, you, you
• 1:42:02
  better let me know and make sure that we see each other because
• 1:42:05
  I'm not going to. We need to get you.
• 1:42:06
  Different answer. Say that again.
• 1:42:13
  Like bring him to some of our role, bring him to some of our
• 1:42:16
  little gatherings and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he stays busy.
• 1:42:22
  I know like with the, with the events that go on out in, in
• 1:42:25
  North Carolina, the the Viking experience, Norse forge
• 1:42:29
  gathering, you know, all those things like he's, he performs at
• 1:42:32
  those, Plus he also vents. So all his craft work and things
• 1:42:37
  come that he, that he, that he puts together with him and his
• 1:42:40
  girl, like they, they, they sell stuff.
• 1:42:42
  Plus he performs, he's busy and like festival.
• 1:42:44
  Seasons are crazy. Plus whatever his regular job.
• 1:42:47
  But yeah, we do. We got to get him to to take
• 1:42:49
  Skogemore on the road and do a little bit tour or something,
• 1:42:52
  you know, with you get up there and do some stuff.
• 1:42:55
  We do them on stage. Yeah, we do.
• 1:42:57
  We do some. We put together some kind of
• 1:42:59
  show or something at the meetery here, kind of.
• 1:43:03
  Yeah. I'll tell you what, though, if
• 1:43:06
  you've never like, I don't think there's a lot of video footage
• 1:43:09
  of his live production. There's some clips, there's some
• 1:43:13
  things that I know I've put out there, and I don't know who else
• 1:43:15
  has done it. Yeah, but he has a whole man.
• 1:43:18
  He has a whole like stage production.
• 1:43:21
  He's got this big mask with deer antlers and stuff that he comes
• 1:43:24
  out. To I'm still working on my safe
• 1:43:26
  presence and stuff. You know, it's like I still just
• 1:43:29
  use my tunic and stuff right now.
• 1:43:30
  But I do eventually want to come out of create some kind of mask
• 1:43:34
  or some kind of mysterious thing going on, but I'm just toying
• 1:43:37
  with things right now. I like the the simplicity and
• 1:43:42
  and I don't mean that in like a bad way, because I know
• 1:43:44
  sometimes people go as simple as like negative.
• 1:43:46
  No, I thought I like the simple, the the the authentic.
• 1:43:49
  It's very traditional to me, the way you know, and because it's
• 1:43:54
  like a, it's a, it's a nod to your namesake.
• 1:43:56
  You know skaldic works, you know, you think of what what a
• 1:43:59
  skald may have, you know had in in terms of their.
• 1:44:04
  Yeah. We call attire and things and it
• 1:44:08
  was probably modest, you know, it wasn't anything even though
• 1:44:11
  they were a very important person to the like the mobility.
• 1:44:14
  I mean, the skald was was the the storyteller.
• 1:44:17
  So the, the retelling of, of great tales and, and heroics and
• 1:44:21
  things like they had a place in the King's courts and, and
• 1:44:23
  stuff. So they were important people,
• 1:44:25
  but I'm sure that their, their, their day-to-day attire or
• 1:44:29
  whatever was, was pretty modest and simple, nothing too crazy.
• 1:44:33
  So it's almost like, you know, in, in, in that in that
• 1:44:35
  simplistic way, you're, you're preserving that the, the title
• 1:44:40
  is called, you know, and, and upholding it in a very humble
• 1:44:43
  and honorable sort of way. Yeah, I was also thinking about
• 1:44:46
  like one of these days just go doing like a hooded cloak kind
• 1:44:49
  of thing. Yeah.
• 1:44:51
  Wherever just my eyes are not visible, you know?
• 1:44:54
  Yeah, that. That and it's kind of like
• 1:44:57
  similar if are you familiar with they're not together anymore.
• 1:45:02
  Right now they're called say the Say the Bloat.
• 1:45:06
  Yeah, Yep. They played in like like monk
• 1:45:10
  robes and stuff at one point and I was like, I want to do
• 1:45:15
  something like that with a more of a more mysterious look to it
• 1:45:20
  and put and put like a more ambience to it.
• 1:45:23
  Yeah. My performances, yeah.
• 1:45:25
  Get a few fog machines or something you know.
• 1:45:28
  Oh yeah, or get like or get like a skull like right here with a
• 1:45:37
  hood over it or something. Oh yeah.
• 1:45:39
  Like a prop. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:45:42
  Kind of thing going on. I'm I'm just toying it out
• 1:45:45
  around with eyes right now. See, if I had a, if I had a
• 1:45:50
  stage prop, it'd probably be like a, a great big Heron or
• 1:45:54
  something, you know? Oh yeah.
• 1:45:56
  That'd be kind of hip. Or like a Heron outfit.
• 1:46:02
  Yeah, like a cloak full of feathers or something, you know
• 1:46:04
  what I mean? Yeah, like you have feathers
• 1:46:05
  tied to your, like you have like a wing.
• 1:46:07
  Like you have wings down here. Oh yeah, Like, yeah, yeah, like
• 1:46:11
  your arms. Yeah, hell yeah, yeah.
• 1:46:15
  And then have like a beak. Just a big yellow branch hanging
• 1:46:21
  off my face. Yeah, like a, like a or like a,
• 1:46:24
  like a big, like black branch or something.
• 1:46:26
  Like a beak or something. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:46:27
  And it's like you have a hood right here.
• 1:46:29
  The mimic. Yeah.
• 1:46:33
  I might be, I might be a costume.
• 1:46:35
  Yeah. It might be a like a like a,
• 1:46:37
  like a ritual costume or something to make for if I ever
• 1:46:41
  get to to to telling my saga of the Heron that flew to hell.
• 1:46:45
  Yeah. It's like you.
• 1:46:47
  Haven't heard that one yet. Yeah, I don't know how I'm going
• 1:46:49
  to wear a horse mask. The horses skull will be kind of
• 1:46:54
  interesting, kind of like Mary Lude kind of ideal.
• 1:46:58
  Yeah, yeah. Well, you got to watch out
• 1:47:00
  though, because in that culture it's with, it's one thing, but
• 1:47:02
  then you talk about horse heads on sticks, you know, that's an
• 1:47:04
  even pole. Yeah, well, it's the purpose
• 1:47:08
  behind it. It's like, right.
• 1:47:10
  It's like Mary Lude is a different concept, though.
• 1:47:13
  It's like a hobby horse kind of thing.
• 1:47:17
  That's a Welsh tradition. Isn't it, well, tradition?
• 1:47:19
  Yeah. Where she comes and they you
• 1:47:22
  have to sing to her, she sings to you or something like that.
• 1:47:26
  It's like a rap battle. Yeah, it's kind of yeah.
• 1:47:29
  It's kind of like fighting. It's kind of like it's kind of
• 1:47:31
  like flying, but in song, I think, and you suppose it's
• 1:47:34
  supposed to be she's Mary Laweth comes in and makes rhymes about
• 1:47:40
  how you how you're supposed to let her in.
• 1:47:44
  And then you're supposed to come up with rhymes until that why
• 1:47:48
  you shouldn't let her in. And it goes back and forth until
• 1:47:52
  the homeowner does not cannot come back with any more comment.
• 1:47:57
  And then if that happens, they go, it comes in and rage your
• 1:48:00
  liquor. Yeah, but it's a Christmas.
• 1:48:04
  It's a Christmas tradition, apparently.
• 1:48:06
  Yeah, and it's not just they don't just rage your liquor,
• 1:48:10
  they just also sing songs, play games as well.
• 1:48:14
  Yeah, yeah, it's. Like the whole procession kind
• 1:48:17
  of thing that comes in with it. You have a?
• 1:48:20
  Yeah. They rage, They rage the.
• 1:48:23
  Hobby wars and then you have like the handlers.
• 1:48:27
  Yep, it's. Kind of like Wassling.
• 1:48:30
  Yeah, that's interesting. It's it was first recorded in
• 1:48:35
  the in 1800, with subsequent amount accounts of it being
• 1:48:39
  produced into the early 20th century.
• 1:48:43
  This is tradition performed at Christmas time by groups of men
• 1:48:46
  who would accompany the horse on its travels across the local
• 1:48:48
  area. And although the make of such
• 1:48:50
  groups vary, they typically included art or they included an
• 1:48:57
  individual to carry the horse, a leader and the individuals
• 1:49:00
  dressed as stock characters such as Punch and Judy.
• 1:49:05
  Punch and Judy is a traditional puppet show anyway, so the men
• 1:49:09
  would carry the merry load to local houses.
• 1:49:11
  They would then request entry through song.
• 1:49:14
  The householders would be expected to deny them entry
• 1:49:17
  again through song, and then the two sides would continue their
• 1:49:21
  response to one another in this manner.
• 1:49:24
  And if the householders eventually relented, the team
• 1:49:27
  would be permitted entry and given food and drink.
• 1:49:30
  Yeah. To be to be in the room or to be
• 1:49:37
  in the the at the doorway or to be in the presence of that when
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  it's happening. I would love to hear that.
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  That would be so cool. Oh yeah.
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  Would you want to be on the? Would you want to?
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  Would you want to be on the the the the side of the door trying
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  to gain entry? Or would you rather be on the
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  side of the door trying to keep them out?
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  Which would you rather be? Both.
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  OK, well, you can't be both. I wouldn't experience.
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  I wouldn't mind being having the experience of doing both.
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  OK, let's say you got invited to one right now.
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  Let's say you got invited to a Christmas Welsh Mary Lloyd
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  procession and they said you got to be on the the, the the Mary
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  Lloyd side or you got to be on the householder side.
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  Which would you, which would you?
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  I would probably. I'll probably be on the Mary
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  Lloyd side. You want to gain entry to get
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  food and. The drink.
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  But I also would like to see what they what kind of stories
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  they would tell and what kind of because when they get gain
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  entry, they will tell stories and sing songs and stuff and
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  make merry. And then the hobby horse was
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  just running around like a little kind of like a gesture
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  kind of like thing. Well, it's funny, like they say
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  that it's, you know, the on on this side, the gaining of entry
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  is done through song. So you would imagine it's almost
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  like, if you think of like the old is, is is a the the the the
• 1:50:56
  Three Little Pigs, you know, the big bad wolf, little pig, little
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  pig. Let me in.
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  Yeah, Hong. And then what they say, not by
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  the hair of my chin, chin, chin, you know, And I wonder if it's
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  something like that. I wonder if it's something like
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  that, but the Welsh version of it, where you know, there's a
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  traditional meter or something that they keep.
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  Yeah, or I was saying that they say yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just I.
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  Wonder how many people actually just relent fun in it.
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  Yeah. How about say that one more
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  time? Because you kind of.
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  Broke up. I mean, they probably, they
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  probably try and then they just give up after a while.
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  It's like, come in. Fine, here, have a cookie.
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  You know, I don't know if I if I had, I would want to be on the
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  side of of being in the inner. I would want to be in the
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  household. And here's why I would want to
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  see if I can do if I can best the merry lode right, If I can,
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  if I can do better than that, if I can out outwit you or out sing
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  you like I would be my that would be why I would want to be
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  on that side. Oh.
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  Yeah. But at the same time, I could do
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  I, I would like to try to get my way in.
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  Like how relentless can I be? You know, we try.
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  Let me try. I would also like to see what
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  they do when they come in too. Yeah.
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  Is there like a play form already?
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  Like what they, what they do inside?
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  Because I again, they do games, they do all kinds of thing.
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  They'll hang around for just a little bit and then they go to
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  the next door, you know, and that's how I go door to door.
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  And then they'll come in for a little bit, play games, tell
• 1:52:29
  stories and then move on. Yeah.
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  And. Yeah, they never stick around
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  for very long. They just hit their yeah.
• 1:52:37
  Their target? It's like a.
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  Next. Yeah.
• 1:52:39
  It's like maybe about 15 to 30 minutes and then they go on,
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  But imagine if it was actually liquor involved though and
• 1:52:48
  you're the one that in get trying to gain entry and you
• 1:52:50
  gain entry a bunch of times and you're just raiding liquor.
• 1:52:56
  Yeah, the, the games wouldn't last for very long.
• 1:52:58
  You'd be like, you might get a few houses in and then you'd be
• 1:53:01
  like, I, I, you know, you'd start losing a lot.
• 1:53:06
  Yeah. You'd lose your wits and you'd
• 1:53:08
  lose the game, and then you wouldn't gain an entry no more,
• 1:53:10
  and then you just end up passed out on some poor farmer's lawn
• 1:53:13
  or something, you know? Unless you're able to be still
• 1:53:16
  removed over time while drunk. But I mean that's possible.
• 1:53:22
  Or there's a way that, or there's a way they continue to
• 1:53:25
  drink and remain so sober enough by eating stuff.
• 1:53:30
  That's the trick, that's the trick.
• 1:53:32
  You got to be able to, you got to, you got to start off on a
• 1:53:34
  full stomach and then you got to eat right things along the way.
• 1:53:37
  So there's a strategy behind this.
• 1:53:39
  There's got to be. Lots of lots of cakes and
• 1:53:41
  cookies I guess. Cakes, some fatty meats, maybe
• 1:53:45
  you know, some, some salted pork or something, you know.
• 1:53:50
  Oh yeah. Yeah, that sodium.
• 1:53:54
  Keep those electrolytes up. Yeah, like something whatever is
• 1:53:57
  like in the household or whatever is traditional of that
• 1:54:01
  time, like the for merry making and stuff.
• 1:54:05
  Yeah, it's like old wine and isn't it?
• 1:54:09
  Oh yeah, some where the wherever they had for cakes, for cookies
• 1:54:16
  or sweets then farts. Probably, yeah.
• 1:54:20
  I don't know. I guess, you know, it's it's
• 1:54:22
  winter time. So, yeah, they're, they're
• 1:54:25
  probably, you know, a lot of the grains that they've stored up.
• 1:54:30
  Well, this is also the 1800s, you know, like, so we're not
• 1:54:32
  talking like the evil times or anything.
• 1:54:36
  They got, they got. This is like Victorian times.
• 1:54:40
  Yeah. Well, yeah, probably so.
• 1:54:41
  But I'm sure, I'm sure that they still had to harvest their
• 1:54:44
  grains in the in the fall and had any canned goods, you know,
• 1:54:50
  any fruits from the summer that they had canned.
• 1:54:52
  But it was probably pretty basic.
• 1:54:54
  I'm sure they had some meats and stuff that they smoked or they,
• 1:54:57
  they had from the hunts and you know, they would go on or
• 1:55:00
  they're, they're because we used to, I remember growing up, we
• 1:55:03
  used to, we used to slaughter our steers in the spring for the
• 1:55:08
  summer and the fall eating. So we would always do 2
• 1:55:13
  slaughters a year. We would do one in the spring
• 1:55:15
  and one in the fall and that way we had enough meat to last us
• 1:55:19
  through the winter. But during the winter we were
• 1:55:23
  also hunting. So we didn't have necessarily
• 1:55:26
  steers and, you know, fattening up to for slaughter, but we were
• 1:55:29
  harvesting venison and turkeys and.
• 1:55:32
  Geese and. Things like.
• 1:55:34
  That and there's probably also like other things that they did
• 1:55:38
  because a lot lot of older traditions too was like dried
• 1:55:41
  fruits and stuff. Yeah, 'cause I mean the last
• 1:55:45
  nuts. Nuts, Yeah.
• 1:55:48
  You know, like chestnuts. Walnuts.
• 1:55:51
  Deez Nuts got him. No, it's good.
• 1:55:58
  I had to throw that in there. Yeah, that's that's probably how
• 1:56:03
  they did it. I don't know, but I think we're
• 1:56:08
  going to wrap this one up there. Blake.
• 1:56:10
  It's been a couple hours, so I. Think we got got a little off of
• 1:56:13
  the Pagan subject there. It was a definite, I mean, it's
• 1:56:18
  cool, though. It's definitely, we definitely
• 1:56:20
  leaned into the randomness of the ramblings this week.
• 1:56:23
  Yeah. Had a few cool comments and
• 1:56:25
  questions come in. It was pretty, pretty
• 1:56:27
  lightweight tonight on the on the audience.
• 1:56:30
  But that's, you know, that's just what, that's the way it
• 1:56:35
  goes sometimes, you know? Yeah.
• 1:56:38
  What we got here, Schizo says. Before I gave up the drink, I
• 1:56:41
  had a 75. I had 75 shots at my sister's
• 1:56:45
  wedding. How are you still?
• 1:56:48
  How were you still walking straight after 75 shots?
• 1:56:51
  Shots of what is it? It couldn't have been anything
• 1:56:55
  that strong. Goodness gracious.
• 1:56:57
  I don't know whether to congratulate you or to to to to
• 1:57:01
  scold you there, Sir, I don't know, but.
• 1:57:04
  Was it jello shots? Jello shots good, but I mean
• 1:57:06
  shit, even even after that you might not be.
• 1:57:09
  You might not be drunk with you'd have diabetes.
• 1:57:13
  Jello shot goodness. You too, Bernard.
• 1:57:19
  I have AI have a friend, one of my friend's best friends.
• 1:57:21
  He's also he didn't like me. He's he's my closest mate and he
• 1:57:30
  he got drunk at my friend's wedding.
• 1:57:33
  The one I told you about. It's in Wales.
• 1:57:37
  He got he got, he got Harry was just kidding.
• 1:57:39
  We didn't work out and it was like what we were kind of like,
• 1:57:42
  like for a while. And the first time I ever seen
• 1:57:45
  him like up Chuck beer. 80 proof.
• 1:57:49
  Oh man, 75 shots of 80 proof liquor.
• 1:57:56
  Look, even if let's, let's do the math.
• 1:57:58
  So like, let's say the wedding is, yeah, five hours long.
• 1:58:02
  You know, let's just be generous.
• 1:58:04
  Let's just say, you know, from 5:00 in the evening to 11:00 at
• 1:58:07
  night and you're drinking 75 shots.
• 1:58:10
  Let's break that down. So in if you do 10 shots an hour
• 1:58:15
  for five hours, that's still only fifty shots.
• 1:58:18
  Yeah, in 60 minutes, you have to have a shot every 5 to 7
• 1:58:27
  minutes, you know what I mean? Like, there's no freaking.
• 1:58:32
  There's no way, dude. How?
• 1:58:35
  Who's keeping count? How?
• 1:58:37
  Who is keeping count? There ain't no way.
• 1:58:38
  There ain't no way, man. There ain't no way.
• 1:58:41
  I mean, I guess there's a way. How are?
• 1:58:42
  You alive? How are you?
• 1:58:45
  How? How's your liver?
• 1:58:47
  How many? How's that liver doing?
• 1:58:49
  Right. Yeah.
• 1:58:50
  Have you talked to him lately? Is he, is he OK?
• 1:58:52
  Like, I mean, it's gracious. I mean, I'm conservative with my
• 1:58:55
  drinks, man. It's like I can't even, I don't
• 1:58:57
  drink excessive, you know? Yeah.
• 1:59:01
  And I mean, even in my raziest, wildest days, which I on the
• 1:59:06
  scale of crazy, I never got very wild.
• 1:59:10
  But I mean, I was, I was a young red blooded American.
• 1:59:13
  I mean, I've, I've, I've been in some pretty, you know,
• 1:59:18
  situations where I, I put my, my shit to the test, but no like 75
• 1:59:23
  shots at a wedding. Yeah.
• 1:59:27
  Maybe. I mean, damn.
• 1:59:28
  Yeah. I would, I would.
• 1:59:31
  I would pass out within with I mean.
• 1:59:36
  I would probably be 6 feet under.
• 1:59:38
  Yeah, that's. Or lower.
• 1:59:41
  Yeah. Oh man.
• 1:59:43
  Well, on that note, stay hydrated everybody.
• 1:59:49
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• 1:59:52
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• 1:59:56
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• 1:59:58
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