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  Speaker 1: This is the gold reform it.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight A mystery. Why is Liberals star Andrew Hasty joining
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Alberanezi in attacking Donald Trump. I'll show why both
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  Speaker 2: are wrong. Plus signs of desperation in Iran now signing
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  Speaker 2: up twelve year olds to fight and scandal the victorious
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  Speaker 2: Liberals is they don't popular and be more redeeming. Plus
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  Speaker 2: also how weak is Britain's navy? Do you know it's
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  Speaker 2: even had to borrow a frigate from Germany? But first,
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  Speaker 2: this war in Iran is causing political chaos here at home.
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  Speaker 2: It's hurting Labor, which today caved, and it's hurting the Liberals,
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  Speaker 2: which now has another new leadership contender. But let's start
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  Speaker 2: with labor. It's today caved to demands Byber leader Angus
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  Speaker 2: Taylor last week to have the petrol xs for three
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  Speaker 2: months to stop motorists getting belted by rising fuel prices,
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  Speaker 2: to save them twenty six cents a liter.
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  Speaker 3: We're announcing the Comnworth government will harve the fuel excise
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  Speaker 3: on petrol and diesel for three months. We're making fuel
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  Speaker 3: cheaper today because we understand that Australians are under serious pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Now this is going to cost an absolute bomb. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: when the ambanies of government's now deep in debt and
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  Speaker 2: about to release a budget wanted to wanted to have
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  Speaker 2: include some popular goodies. Well it's not going to be
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  Speaker 2: able to afford all that anymore.
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  Speaker 4: The cost of what we are announcing today is two
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  Speaker 4: point five five billion dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Now this is of course a break for motorers who
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  Speaker 2: not only feel the pain from this petrol panic, but
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  Speaker 2: no longer believe a government that tells them there's plenty
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  Speaker 2: of fuel when they actually see service stations run out.
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  Speaker 5: It is a little scafe.
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  Speaker 6: I can see why everybody's a little bit anxious about it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, are we going to get to the supermarket?
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  Speaker 5: Are we going to have produce there for us to buy?
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  Speaker 1: It's I mean ridiculous. The budget is already there, so
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  Speaker 1: very very tight. It's unbelievable. Other price cause up every day.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was one dollar forty six probably three
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  Speaker 3: or four weeks ago, so it's gone up a dollar Elite.
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  Speaker 2: Now, this cut in XRS and also removing the Heavy
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  Speaker 2: Vehicles Road User charge for truckies, these are things that
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  Speaker 2: we're all going to have to pay for later because
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  Speaker 2: it deepens our trillion dollar debt. The shame we spend
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  Speaker 2: all that money, ain't And I wonder that this will
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  Speaker 2: also encourage people to use more petrol instead of less.
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  Speaker 2: But politically, getting in the government to cave is a
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  Speaker 2: win for Angus Taylor, who rubbed it in Parliament today.
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  Speaker 4: On fuel First, the Prime Minister said there was no problem.
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  Speaker 4: Just days later there was a crisis. Last week the
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  Speaker 4: Prime Minister refused to cut the fuel excise in response
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  Speaker 4: to our call to slash the tax. Then just one
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  Speaker 4: hour ago the Prime Minister finally announced a fuel excise cut.
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  Speaker 4: Why is the Prime minister always the last to lead
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  Speaker 4: in a national crisis.
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  Speaker 2: But two poles in the last twenty four hours show
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  Speaker 2: how desperately Taylor needed this win, which perhaps unfortunately for him,
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  Speaker 2: won't be remembered for long. You know this, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: thought of the idea first. I don't know that votus
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  Speaker 2: care that much. And these poles also explained by the
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  Speaker 2: Albineezi government did have to change its mind and back
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  Speaker 2: this excise cut because it knows now it is dangerously
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  Speaker 2: on the nose. First, there's the news poll showing labor
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  Speaker 2: now down to just thirty one percent on the primary vote.
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  Speaker 2: One nation also down one but still at an extraordinary
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  Speaker 2: twenty six percent, and the Liberals up a little to
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  Speaker 2: twenty one. But the Redbridge Pole is much tougher on
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  Speaker 2: the coal then on labor in this poll, just three
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  Speaker 2: points ahead of one nation with a coalition down to
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  Speaker 2: a catastrophic seventeen percent, but is frankly unbelievable low. And
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  Speaker 2: that problem helps explain why Andrew Hasty yesterday stepped up.
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  Speaker 2: Now he'd already made waves days earlier on two GB,
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  Speaker 2: but yesterday double down in the ABC's inside is talking
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  Speaker 2: like he was the opposition leader, and not just its
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  Speaker 2: industry spokesman. Now HASTI former SAS captain who's fought in Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 2: He talked about foreign affairs, wagging Donald Trump for going
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  Speaker 2: to war with Iran.
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  Speaker 7: I think this was a huge miscalculation. Iran has managed
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  Speaker 7: to pretty much hold the whole world economy to ransom,
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  Speaker 7: and because we're at the end of a very long
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  Speaker 7: supply chain, we're going to experience pain.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like he really has been and in time with
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  Speaker 2: Malcolm Turnbull. Hasty also talked to tax policy, seeming at
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  Speaker 2: odds with Angus Taylor in apparently being open to cuts
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  Speaker 2: the negative gearing and capital gains tax breaks and extra
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  Speaker 2: tax on gas exporters, which labor would like.
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  Speaker 8: So this is why you're also open to negative gearing,
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  Speaker 8: capital gains tax changes.
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  Speaker 7: I just think we've got this is a new era.
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  Speaker 7: You know, the world order has collapsed in the last
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  Speaker 7: couple of years. You know, we're experiencing a lot of
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  Speaker 7: economic pain. Inflation is very sticky. I've mentioned all the
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  Speaker 7: factors that people feel and leave every day.
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  Speaker 8: It shouldn't be ruled out these tax changes.
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  Speaker 7: I just think we need to overhauld the whole system.
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  Speaker 7: So we either fix the system or it's torn down
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  Speaker 7: by people like Pauline Hanson.
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  Speaker 8: So those colleagues of yours who say it's a tax
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  Speaker 8: on housing, if you're going to do these things, are
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  Speaker 8: you saying to.
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  Speaker 7: Them, No one's going to reward us for a final
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  Speaker 7: last stand for neoliberal politics. Okay, there's no metal for that.
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  Speaker 2: No, Angus Taylor this morning, Well, he is one of
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  Speaker 2: these people that say a tax on all these things
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  Speaker 2: is bad. And he slapped Andrew Hasey down correctly, no
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  Speaker 2: to more taxes on housing and gas.
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  Speaker 4: And you don't get more of those things by raising
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  Speaker 4: taxes on So it's pretty straightforward for me.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I also don't agree with some of the things
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  Speaker 2: Hasty said, but he did sound more compelling and spoke
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  Speaker 2: with more conviction than Taylor usually does, despite Taylor trying
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  Speaker 2: his best last week to define himself as a straight
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  Speaker 2: talking country boy by riding a bull and shearing sheep
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  Speaker 2: and cracking a whip and doing other country stuff. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I'll explain later by some of what Hasty said about
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  Speaker 2: Trump and this war is flat wrong. It's populist, it's
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  Speaker 2: in an Australian Donald Trump would say, although it is
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  Speaker 2: effective for all that. And here's my tip. Taylor is
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  Speaker 2: going to have only a couple more months to prove
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  Speaker 2: he can turn around these shocking poles. If he can't,
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  Speaker 2: and after that his job is up for grabs, and
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  Speaker 2: Hasty will be the only option. However wrong he can
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  Speaker 2: sometimes be. After all, you just look at one nation,
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  Speaker 2: you look at these poles, and you do the maths.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me and Michael Kroger, former president of the Victorian
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  Speaker 2: Liberals is Steve Conroy, former Labor senator and cabinet minister
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  Speaker 2: Ah Michael Halving the fuel excise for three months. Why
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  Speaker 2: did Labor change his mind apparently over the weekend and
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  Speaker 2: is it a good move?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry? Do they panicked?
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  Speaker 9: Of course, Angus Taylor was out front calling for this.
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  Speaker 9: Labor felt they had to do something, so this is
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  Speaker 9: what they did. They just took Taylor's policy the great
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  Speaker 9: tragedy with what they did. While the Taylor came out
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  Speaker 9: and said, if we're going to spend two point six billion,
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  Speaker 9: which is what is with the heavy vehicle user charge
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  Speaker 9: as well, if we're going to cut revenue by two
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  Speaker 9: point six billion, we've got to have an offset saving
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  Speaker 9: of two point six billion, which is what Taylor did.
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  Speaker 9: In contrast and typical of Jim Charmers. Jim Charmers couldn't
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  Speaker 9: name a single saving for the extra two point six
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  Speaker 9: billion of revenue he's losing. He couldn't announce a single
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  Speaker 9: saving now, Andrew, given the fact that the budget is
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  Speaker 9: what four or five weeks away, you think he would
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  Speaker 9: have had something to offset it with nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And this is Charmers problem.
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  Speaker 9: He cannot control his own spending and this is why
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  Speaker 9: the budget in this country is in one hell of
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  Speaker 9: a mess.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew, Well, Stephen, it is same policy except very different
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  Speaker 2: really in that it's not paid for. I mean, what
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  Speaker 2: on earth is this?
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  Speaker 10: Well, I think you'll see the savings that government will
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  Speaker 10: put forward in his budget. It's not going to be
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  Speaker 10: spooked by Michael Kroger saying to find your savings. Now,
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  Speaker 10: there'll be a question Michael will be having to defend
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  Speaker 10: over the next two years. But I think you know,
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  Speaker 10: it is smart politics. So John Howd was the master
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  Speaker 10: of stealing Labor's policies. I remember sitting there in the
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  Speaker 10: Parliament doing, oh god, he's done it again.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good policy. He's stolen it from us.
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  Speaker 10: So we've just taken, you know, a page out of
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  Speaker 10: the playbook of John Howard, one of the most formidable
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  Speaker 10: prime ministers of the country he've ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: Oh look, I just wish both sides had stealed good
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  Speaker 2: policies from the others instead of instinctively saying no. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't care about that one little bit,
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  Speaker 2: except you know, they're not paid for a bit. It's
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  Speaker 2: what sticks in my throat. Andrew Hasty, Michael here he
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  Speaker 2: is yesterday on Insiders, has been talking tax POLICI has
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  Speaker 2: been talking foreign affairs, talking, which aren't in his portfolio.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, where's foreign it's fairs spokesman Tid o'brown
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  Speaker 2: talking like a very different liberal leader. Did you like
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  Speaker 2: what you saw?
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  Speaker 9: Well, we all like Andrew Hasty immensely. And I have
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  Speaker 9: to say, h macntermin And I must say that anyone
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  Speaker 9: that serves this country in war has a special place
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  Speaker 9: in the heart of most people in the center right
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  Speaker 9: of politics. He did, I didn't, Stephen hasn't. You haven't.
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  Speaker 9: So Hasty has that special place, and it gives him
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  Speaker 9: a pedestal.
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  Speaker 1: That none of the rest of us will reach. However,
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  Speaker 1: did I luck what he said?
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  Speaker 11: No?
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  Speaker 1: Not particularly Angus Taylor is right.
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  Speaker 9: No, we're at a point where we don't want to increase
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  Speaker 9: taxes anymore, thank you very much. And secondly, in relation
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  Speaker 9: to the war in Iran, Andrew, the pole I look
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  Speaker 9: at is not the poll in America. It's not the
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  Speaker 9: pole here. I look at the pole of those people
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  Speaker 9: most directly affected by the war outside of Iran, and
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  Speaker 9: that's Israel, where a historically divided country. And we know Israel.
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  Speaker 9: You know two people, three opinions. We know the government
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  Speaker 9: is heading the polls, but not terribly popular he's not
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  Speaker 9: very popular.
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  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 9: Eighty percent eight zero percent of Israeli's support the war
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  Speaker 9: in Iran. That's the poll that I'm guided buy because,
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  Speaker 9: to be honest, mate, they know a lot more about
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  Speaker 9: this than the rest of us. Do we read the
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  Speaker 9: papers they delivered every single day?
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  Speaker 2: Michael, you didn't answer the question, but exactly directly about
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  Speaker 2: whether a long you can't deliberal leader you wanted? But
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  Speaker 2: I get your other points. But Stephen, what do you
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  Speaker 2: make of that pitch? I mean it was clear. Am
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  Speaker 2: I wrong in thinking that was a direct pitch for
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  Speaker 2: the leadership?
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  Speaker 10: Look, I don't think you can view it any other way.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, I think I said last week that Angus
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  Speaker 10: Taytel was running fourth when journalists wanted to quote paul
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  Speaker 10: In Hanson, Barnaby Joyce, Matt Canevan and Angus Well, I
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  Speaker 10: think Andrew Hayesi just slept into fourth and Angus is
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  Speaker 10: pushed down at fifth because to your point, he speaks
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  Speaker 10: clearly with some passion, and Angus Taylor is just sort
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  Speaker 10: of you know, blamonge gray dark in the background in
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  Speaker 10: his expression. So I think Andrew Haste has been setting
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  Speaker 10: out his stall and I think I agree with quite
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  Speaker 10: a bit that Andrew had to say. I'm absolutely as
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  Speaker 10: you know and your viewers know, I'm very happy to
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  Speaker 10: see the downfall of the Iranian regime. I hope at
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  Speaker 10: leads to greater outcomes for the Iranian people. But it
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  Speaker 10: is possible to still criticize Donald Trump not actually having
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  Speaker 10: an objective. He changes every week, so I think that
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  Speaker 10: is a fair criticism and that doesn't diminish support for
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  Speaker 10: hopefully what happens for the Iranian people. And on the economics,
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  Speaker 10: I have to agree with him. Pauline Hanson is exploiting
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  Speaker 10: an incredible cost of living crisis that is caused by
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  Speaker 10: a long term policy prescription of true neo conservative economics,
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  Speaker 10: which is starting to catch up with the Liberals and
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  Speaker 10: to a degree, Labor, because we haven't done enough to
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  Speaker 10: ensure that those people in the fringes that have lost
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  Speaker 10: through the economic transitions which generally everyone's supported, not enough
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  Speaker 10: has been done for them. And though they're turning to
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  Speaker 10: the siren call of Pauline Hanson, who has not a
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  Speaker 10: single economic policy, could barely spell economics if you asked
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  Speaker 10: her to, but she's got this attractive. They've all failed
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  Speaker 10: you I'm the savior line. So I think Andrew is
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  Speaker 10: absolutely spot on in some of what he's articulating there.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I agree with his message has been consistent
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  Speaker 2: on for a long time, building up a defense, becoming
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  Speaker 2: more self sufficient and all that kind of thing. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: But Michael to go back to his criticism of Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump's handing of this war. I mean, there are things
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  Speaker 2: you may well criticize on their whole. Though I think
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  Speaker 2: the war has been going very well militarily for Trump.
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  Speaker 2: I think his selling of it maybe has lacked something.
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  Speaker 2: The straighter for Moors is a huge problem, a huge problem.
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  Speaker 2: No other senior liberal has whacked Donald Trump like that.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think Andrew Hasey is up to? Is
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  Speaker 2: it just a criticism of the handling of the war
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  Speaker 2: or is this something else? Is he channeling his new
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  Speaker 2: friend so we read Malcolm Turnbull.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, but I certainly hope not. You
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  Speaker 1: might have to ask you, Andrew directly. But look at
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  Speaker 1: it this way.
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  Speaker 9: It is so easy, It is so easy to criticize Trump.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, what did did Biden take on the Iranians?
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  Speaker 9: Did Biden do it?
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  Speaker 1: Did did Obama? Anyone?
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  Speaker 9: This regime is a threat to the world. You can
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  Speaker 9: criticize Trump for many things, but at least he's had
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  Speaker 9: the guts to do what no one else did. This
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  Speaker 9: regime has persecuted ninety million people for generations. They threaten
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  Speaker 9: all of their Arab nations, They seed terrorist funding around
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  Speaker 9: the world.
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  Speaker 1: Cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 9: If you're not in favor of the Americans trying it
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  Speaker 9: and the Israelis trying to take out the the Islamic
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  Speaker 9: regime and these Islamic terrorists in Israel in Iran, you
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  Speaker 9: need to have a good look at the situation. Because
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  Speaker 9: Iran with nuclear weapons, well you know, that would be
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  Speaker 9: the end of the civilized world.
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  Speaker 1: Within a ten to twenty year period.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew, Well, it's not just that, it's simply it's just
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  Speaker 2: as ballistic missiles as well, it was called in rural missiles,
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  Speaker 2: faster and cheaper than America and Israel could build anti
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: missile defenses. They would be overwhelmed had they left it
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  Speaker 2: much longer. Now, I need to turn to the liberals
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  Speaker 2: in Victoria. Honestly, it's an absolute clown show. But also
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  Speaker 2: when liberal MP More Deeming went to a women's rights
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  Speaker 2: rally that was gate crash by Na Nazis. She was
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  Speaker 2: then defined by a woke leader, John Persudo at the time,
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  Speaker 2: who falsely sort of consorting with Neo Nazis. Yesterday, Deeming
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  Speaker 2: lost the pre selection battle to a Liberal candidate, Danesh Gurusetti,
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  Speaker 2: who had rallied a lot of Indian Australians to back him,
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  Speaker 2: and it seemed that Demi might then run for One Nation.
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  Speaker 2: But now the Liberals say Guruseti has withdrawn his candidacy.
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  Speaker 2: Afterwards revealed he gave a character reference for now convicted
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  Speaker 2: child sex offender cash App Patel, who is also a
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  Speaker 2: Gurusetti backer and a member a coincidence of his Liberal faction.
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  Speaker 2: But Stephen Gurusetti now says he won't withdraw. He says
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  Speaker 2: he didn't know the seriousness of his friend's charges. That
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  Speaker 2: don't look honestly, what does that tell you about the
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  Speaker 2: Liberal Party?
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  Speaker 10: Victoria Well, I think Peter Kretlen said it's time for
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  Speaker 10: the federal intervention. Ah, and you've got a way. Whether
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  Speaker 10: the intervention help Jess Wilson, I mean the Liberals have
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  Speaker 10: finally got a leader that has been bringing the parliamentary
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  Speaker 10: party together, has started to make them effective as an opposition,
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  Speaker 10: and all of a sudden, if you're going to knock
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  Speaker 10: off the sitting MP and I've watched what happen and
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  Speaker 10: encourage it quite a lot over the years, you can't
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  Speaker 10: do it in the wather that's been done. And this
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  Speaker 10: is clown show is the only description.
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  Speaker 2: And just at the.
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  Speaker 10: Time when Jess Wilson is actually starting to make an
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  Speaker 10: impact on the people of Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: I think you to be a mistake. It'd be a
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  Speaker 2: real mistake this side of the election, the lecture is
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  Speaker 2: only months away. Does she really just wils really want
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  Speaker 2: to be seen as being baby sit by the Feds
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  Speaker 2: and all. I think that's a mistake.
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  Speaker 10: But managed to win Danny Andrews when the Victorian branch
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  Speaker 10: was put into intervention for three four years, and he
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  Speaker 10: still went on to win. So the babysitting arguments not
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  Speaker 10: the strongest, I don't think. I think the rather reasons
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  Speaker 10: of how do the branch respond as a more infighting
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  Speaker 10: blah blah, But babysitting is is something that the Federal
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  Speaker 10: Labor Party managed to manage to manage with when the
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  Speaker 10: Somrak stuff all blew up. Yeah, but that was that
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  Speaker 10: was difference. That was ethnic branch stacking and a great
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  Speaker 10: deal of abuse and tapes and all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 10: So there was an element that you were going to
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  Speaker 10: just a moment ago Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Daniel Andrews, Daniel Andrews could withstand any suggestion
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  Speaker 2: of being babysat and the machine. This would be different.
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  Speaker 2: And this is very close to an election. The thing
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  Speaker 2: is here you mentioned ethnic branch stacking. There was definitely
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  Speaker 2: ethnic recruiting. Shall I say that to knock over a
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  Speaker 2: very popular local MP with all this catastrophe, Michael, you
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  Speaker 2: must be tearing your hair out.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Andrew.
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  Speaker 9: Some years bad we did a survey which showed that
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  Speaker 9: more than seventy percent of party members lived in six
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  Speaker 9: federal electorates Flinders, Wan and Goldstein, Higgins, curyl and Mensi's.
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  Speaker 9: And so a decision was made some years back to
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  Speaker 9: try and broaden the base of the party.
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  Speaker 1: To Indian community, Chinese community.
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: Pacific Islanders, even religious people, for which the Age and
• 19:21
  Speaker 9: newspaper you know, said, oh there's a Mormon takeover the
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: Liberal Party.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: So we tried to broaden the base.
• 19:27
  Speaker 9: Why because the future, the future is in seats like
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: Casey and Jason Woods seat and Aston the outer suburbs
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: and then hopefully one.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Day into the West. It's about the working middle class.
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: The future, the liberal parties getting back to winning votes
• 19:40
  Speaker 9: amongst the working middle class, which is what MENSI said
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: got eighty years ago.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: And so for as long as the party is just
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: in a few of these, you.
• 19:48
  Speaker 9: Know, whitefaced inner city seats, Colin Street seats Andrew it's
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: not going to have a long term electoral future. And
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: if you're in any doubt about that, have a look
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: at the fact that one nation and now polling in
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: the twenties.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: They're all the working little book.
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: They are Indians, and they're Chinese, and there's three Lankolns,
• 20:05
  Speaker 9: Garcific Islanders and they're Christians.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: They're all those people who are voting now for they
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: don't they should, and we've all them.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I don't mind at all candidates coming from different ethnic groups.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: In fact, I welcome that. What I don't like is
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: when it looks like it presents on TV. This is
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: their community getting their representative someone from another ethnic community,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: and good on them. Should be representing everyone and be
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: seen to be representing everyone their interests, not and ethnic
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: interest I think the Labour came into great grief with that,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: and the liberals shouldn't go the same way. Michael Kroger,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Stephen Conory, thank you to you both. After the break.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Why is liberal Starr Andrew Hasey joining Anthony Albanezi in
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: attacking Donald Trump? And why are they're both wrong? Before
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I get to Andrew Hasty joining Anthony and easy in
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: attacking Donald Trump? A quick update on the war that's
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: causing us so much grief. The US and whoever is
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: now running Iran. They are swapping messages and the US
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: President even said this morning it was all very positive,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: which may or may not be true.
• 21:15
  Speaker 11: Make you see a deal in Iran Ya could be soon.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: But the US is showing Iran a stick as well
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: as the carrotive talks. It's moving marines and paratroopers into
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: the region for a possible land invasion. That are our
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: signs of the Iranian regime is under pressure. Iran has
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: moved in she militias from Iraq now to help it
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: maintain internal control, and what's particularly telling, has announced on
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: TV that will now sign up even twelve year olds
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: to man checkpoints. Checkpoints both buzzage Internal Security.
• 21:52
  Speaker 12: Force, I used to ward it as the abous, his
• 21:55
  Speaker 12: calon you we needed to fall off for the hemorogbas,
• 22:00
  Speaker 12: the iditation as an care Randan into Kananabe Inca Saninica.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Central brilliant. And although the straight upon US is still
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: basically closed, Iran is now leading through oil tankers from
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: what it calls friendly countries. So where this war is going,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: who really knows. But I want to take time now
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: to correct those two statements. False statements from two people.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I never dreamed i'd be lumping together liberal leadership hopeful
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Andrew hasty yesterday labor premise or anything that will and
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: easy today both verbling US President Donald Trump to Makchine
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: seems shifty, and both running a very popular attack line
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: to the media left that Donald Trump keeps changing the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: reasons he went to war.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: He's hasty, strategic rationale for the war has changed. We've
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: gone from regime change, nuclear weapons and then degrading Iran's missile,
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: drone and naval capacity.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: And here's a been easy today saying the same thing.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I want to see more certainty.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: In what the objectives of the war are and I
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: want to see a de escalation at the beginning of the.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Conflict.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: The objectives were outlined as one, stopping Iran getting a
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: nuclear weapon, agree and clearly has been achieved. Secondly, degrading
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the opportunity that Iran has for engaging in military action,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: either overt or through its proxies in Hasbala, Hamas and
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: the Hooties. Clearly that has been substantial degrading of Iran's position.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: The third was Reigi change, and I think that very
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: clearly history tells us that regime change from imposed from
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: outside is very difficult.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, she saw it at length and both been a wrong.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: The fundamental objectives Trump gave on day one of the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: war have not changed. They did not include regime change,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: and in fact, this Albanize kind of admitted today they
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: have been largely achieved. Here is Donald Trump a month
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: ago when he's announcing the war, spelling out those war aims.
• 24:36
  Speaker 11: The United States military has undertaking a massive and ongoing
• 24:40
  Speaker 11: operation to prevent this a very wicked radical dictatorship from
• 24:45
  Speaker 11: threatening America and our core national security interests. We are
• 24:51
  Speaker 11: going to destroy their missiles and raise their missile industry
• 24:55
  Speaker 11: to the ground. It will be totally again obliterated. We
• 25:00
  Speaker 11: are going to annihilate their navy. We are going to
• 25:03
  Speaker 11: ensure that the region's terrorist proxies can no longer destabilize
• 25:08
  Speaker 11: the region or the world, and we will ensure that
• 25:11
  Speaker 11: around has not obtained a nuclear weapon. It's a very
• 25:16
  Speaker 11: simple message.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: There, you heard it. Those basic objectives have not changed,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: they have not been brought in sequentially. They've not been unclear,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: even if Trump blusters or is deliberately unclear about how
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: much has been achieved and how much will be enough
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: before he says stop. And Trump never did promise regime
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: change in that same speech on day one of the war.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: He said regime change that was up to the reigning
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: people themselves.
• 25:47
  Speaker 11: When we are finished, take over your government. It will
• 25:50
  Speaker 11: be yours to take. This will be probably your only
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: chance for generations. So let's see how you respond.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: So Albinizi is wrong and Hasty is wrong in the
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: same way, which should embarrass him. Joining me is the
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: country's top foreign affairs r to Grig Sheridan in the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Australian newspaper Greg great to see me in. Both Andrew
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Hase and Albanezi falsely claimed Donald Trump keeps changing the
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: reasons for this war and that they included regime change.
• 26:20
  Speaker 13: Why well, Andrew, it's great to be with you, and
• 26:25
  Speaker 13: I must say, I think your coverage of this war
• 26:28
  Speaker 13: and the coverage on this program has been absolutely brilliant.
• 26:32
  Speaker 13: But respectfully, I would disagree with you on this occasion.
• 26:36
  Speaker 13: I think Hasty's comments were entirely justified and completely correct.
• 26:40
  Speaker 13: It is always possible to find the odd coherent statement
• 26:43
  Speaker 13: that Trump makes and say all of his other incoherent
• 26:47
  Speaker 13: statements were merely tactical digressions. On this one, I mean,
• 26:53
  Speaker 13: he says so many weird things. At the start of
• 26:55
  Speaker 13: the war, Marco Rubio said we had to go to
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: war because Israel was going to do it anyway, and
• 27:00
  Speaker 13: then the Iranians would have attacked us, so we had
• 27:02
  Speaker 13: to go to war. A day or two into the war,
• 27:04
  Speaker 13: Trump said, if we hadn't attacked, I knew for sure
• 27:08
  Speaker 13: the Iranians were going to attack us anyway. His negotiated
• 27:14
  Speaker 13: Steve Witkoff on TV in front of Trump, said the
• 27:17
  Speaker 13: Iranians were a couple of weeks away from producing a
• 27:20
  Speaker 13: nuclear weapon. Yet last June, Trump told us that he
• 27:24
  Speaker 13: had totally and forever obliterated the Iranian nuclear program. Trump
• 27:30
  Speaker 13: said at one point, I will accept nothing other than
• 27:33
  Speaker 13: total and absolute surrender. Now, it's true he never uttered
• 27:37
  Speaker 13: the word regime change. But I think total and absolute
• 27:39
  Speaker 13: surrender is the functional equivalent of regime change.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: He said.
• 27:43
  Speaker 13: On another occasion, I get to choose who Iran's next
• 27:47
  Speaker 13: leader is. Now that is also, in my view, the
• 27:50
  Speaker 13: functional equivalent of regime change.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: He said.
• 27:52
  Speaker 13: So many other things that are so bizarre. I mean,
• 27:55
  Speaker 13: even you rightly said the Americans hit that school in
• 28:00
  Speaker 13: intentionally and killed all those girls unintentionally based on outdated
• 28:04
  Speaker 13: targeting information. Absolutely right, Pete Haig said at the time,
• 28:07
  Speaker 13: was saying it's still under investigation.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Trump was saying, simply, as a matter of fact, the
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Iranians did it. The Iranians did it.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: That's wrong.
• 28:14
  Speaker 13: Trump told us it was completely unexpected that the Iranians
• 28:18
  Speaker 13: attacked their golf Arab neighbors. Nobody ever expected them to
• 28:21
  Speaker 13: do that. Well, that is, he's either mad, hallucinating, or
• 28:25
  Speaker 13: just telling us lies, because it's been in every article
• 28:28
  Speaker 13: in Foreign Affairs and every other journal I've ever read,
• 28:31
  Speaker 13: And the Iranians have done it in the past, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 13: the Hooties did it at their request. They struck Saudi
• 28:38
  Speaker 13: energy infrastructure. Then he said it's all finished, we can
• 28:42
  Speaker 13: go home tomorrow. Then he said no, no, we can't
• 28:45
  Speaker 13: go home until we clear the straight ofform moves. Then
• 28:48
  Speaker 13: he says no, no, no, I can finish any time
• 28:51
  Speaker 13: he likes. Then he says no, no, We've got lots
• 28:53
  Speaker 13: and lots of time. Now, out of all of this,
• 28:55
  Speaker 13: I have seldom seen a residential communications so incoherent. And
• 29:03
  Speaker 13: the final point I'd make is I think Hasty is
• 29:06
  Speaker 13: completely justified.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: In his criticism of Trump.
• 29:09
  Speaker 13: It cannot be that those of us who desperately want
• 29:12
  Speaker 13: America and Israel to succeed in Iran have to take
• 29:16
  Speaker 13: a vow never to criticize Trump while he can speak
• 29:20
  Speaker 13: in the most derogatory and insulting and often insane way
• 29:25
  Speaker 13: about everyone else on the planet. I think it's quite
• 29:27
  Speaker 13: right the liberals look silly if they weren't criticized Trump.
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: I thought Hasty's remarks were okay, But you know, people
• 29:34
  Speaker 13: of good will can disagree on this.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Well. I would have to say I've never denied Trump
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: as Alara. In fact, I've called him alaro many times.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I've said he was wrong to attack his allies, wrong
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: to lose allies, he is blustering all over the shop.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: But the point is, And as for Steve Whitkoff, I mean,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I've often said he's an idiot, and I do not
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: know why he is the Trump's special envoy to Iran.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: The point is those war aims. I play them to
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: the audience. They were the war aims. Then the means
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: of achieving those war aims, and when enough is enough
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: all that is up in the air. But the war
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: aims remain the same. Now. As for the straight off Moose,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I think Jack Keene has explained that to us quite well.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Whatever Trump says, the American military decided that it could
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: not be diverted from attacking Iran's missiles and drone assets
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: into defending the straight off moors. They had to go
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: do that first and then defend the strait. It is sequential.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: We shall see. But anyway, can you do you believe
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Trump's talk of a possible deep peace steel soon or
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: are you tipping a land invasion?
• 30:51
  Speaker 13: Well, Andrew, I'd say to you, honestly, I don't know
• 30:54
  Speaker 13: what's going to happen, And any pundit who really speaks
• 30:58
  Speaker 13: with great confidence, I think you should distrust. But I
• 31:02
  Speaker 13: think All the points you just made there are absolutely true,
• 31:05
  Speaker 13: except for this. I don't know that you can defend
• 31:09
  Speaker 13: the straight of holl Moves anymore. When they tried to
• 31:11
  Speaker 13: do it in the eighties, a lot of ships got
• 31:13
  Speaker 13: hit and drone technology didn't exist then. I mean asymmetric
• 31:17
  Speaker 13: warfare is now. It's much easier, it's much more accessible.
• 31:20
  Speaker 13: The straight of wull Moves is so narrow that I
• 31:24
  Speaker 13: think you couldn't stop the Iranians from hitting even the
• 31:27
  Speaker 13: odd tanker, and they've only got to hit one, and
• 31:29
  Speaker 13: then the insurance co unmanageable. If they can fire a
• 31:33
  Speaker 13: single drone. Now that might mean you've got to take
• 31:37
  Speaker 13: the land near to the straight of hall Moves, but
• 31:39
  Speaker 13: then you get into a big ground. Now again, I
• 31:43
  Speaker 13: just don't know what they are actually expecting if you
• 31:47
  Speaker 13: have an operation. So if you were correct from the
• 31:50
  Speaker 13: nuclear site, you could do that in a couple of days,
• 31:53
  Speaker 13: collapse it all in on itself and declare victory and
• 31:57
  Speaker 13: leave and the straight of hall Moves is probably undisturbed.
• 32:00
  Speaker 13: But now we've got these massive global people will die
• 32:04
  Speaker 13: of food shortage because of our net zero insanities. We
• 32:08
  Speaker 13: are so dependent on fossil fuel fertilizer. There's a fertilizer crime.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: True, trop yields will drop now, I don't.
• 32:17
  Speaker 13: I still think it's probably reasonable for the Americans to
• 32:20
  Speaker 13: have done what they did, but they're not showing us
• 32:22
  Speaker 13: that they have any actual plan for the Strait of
• 32:24
  Speaker 13: Homors and the.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Final boss.
• 32:28
  Speaker 13: The boat to support them. What ship does she think?
• 32:32
  Speaker 13: I like anyone who thinks we should send over on
• 32:34
  Speaker 13: the straight to tell me, great ship.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I've got to go, but watch on for what the
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Britain's been resorting to. Greg Sheridan, thank you so much,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: indeed for your time after the break. Why it's tight
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: to be glad this killer was shot dead this morning.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: It's not nice to be glad someone was shot dead
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: this morning. But tonight they have to say good ridds
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: to Desi Freeman, a so called sovereign citizen and conspiracy
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: theorists and Natuho last August murdered to Victorian police officers
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: who tried to serve a warrant on him for historical
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: sex offenses. This morning, five point thirty ish police surrounded
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: a shipping container and a property near Walwort, northeast Victoria.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: After three hours, Freeman came out reportedly with one of
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the dead officer's guns in his hand, and he was killed.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I have seen a video of.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: The deceased leaving the building and presenting a far at
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: our offices. I'm glad he's dead because his kind of
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: crimes tend to inspire crazies among us, who treat people
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: at that as heroes, and because he caused so much
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: grief and so much fear. Now we ask our police
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: to face danger to protect us, Why would they do
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: that if those who then hurt them do not pay
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: a very high price. Joining me are Lisa Goddard, former
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: foreign correspondent and founder of Vidoni Media. Askarn you host
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: the niker to Georgia. Lisa, is it cruel? And I'm
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Christian to say good that is gone?
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: No, Andrew, I don't think it is.
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: You know, Christianity emboldens us to have compassion, but I
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: think in this case Christianity also values accountability, it values
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: protecting innocence, and in this case he brought violence. And
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: at the end of the day he died because police
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: managed to finally track him down. But that's little comfort
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: to the families that are left behind. He went out
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: there in cold blood, and took two lives and injured
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: another police officer. And as you say, these are the
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: men and the women who we rely on to keep
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: you are on a front line.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: To protect us. So he was an agent of chaos.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: That's the best way to describe him. He was out there,
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: he had no respect for our law, for our courts,
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: for our governance.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: And you're right, having those people out there in the
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: world does empower others to follow him and follow those beliefs.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: And then that then leads all of us into danger.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: And I think on this program and on this network,
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: we very rarely agree with Jacinta Alan, but today she
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: said an evil man is dead.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: So I dare say the Victorian premier has got something right.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I did hear her, and I did have to say
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: she spoke well. I mean, it's amazing I say that,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: But I did think she spoke well.
• 35:17
  Speaker 14: Denika, Well, Andrew, I'm not a Christian, so tonight call
• 35:21
  Speaker 14: me a sinner. I'm going to say this with a
• 35:22
  Speaker 14: clear conscience. Goodbye and good ridden. So okay, this was
• 35:25
  Speaker 14: a man responsible for the deaths of two police officers.
• 35:28
  Speaker 14: Police put their lives on the line every single day
• 35:31
  Speaker 14: for you, and I and they die. They paid the
• 35:34
  Speaker 14: ultimate sacrifice at the hands of this mongrel. Secondly, he
• 35:38
  Speaker 14: was actually, at the time that he was involved in
• 35:41
  Speaker 14: this shootout, seven months ago, he was being investigated for
• 35:44
  Speaker 14: historical child abuse offensives. He was wanted by the child
• 35:47
  Speaker 14: abuse squad. So you can put two and two together.
• 35:50
  Speaker 14: Let's say this guy is not particularly somebody we want
• 35:52
  Speaker 14: lingering around us. And thirdly, Andrew, I'll make the point,
• 35:56
  Speaker 14: he was hiding for seven months, right there were members
• 35:59
  Speaker 14: of the local community where he was out there in
• 36:01
  Speaker 14: Victoria that was scared for their lives. He was armed,
• 36:04
  Speaker 14: he was dangerous, So yep, okay. Let's say in the
• 36:07
  Speaker 14: Christian faith they say number one sinners to wish death
• 36:11
  Speaker 14: or wish ill upon a person. Quite frankly, in this situation,
• 36:14
  Speaker 14: I do not care call me a sinner, but this
• 36:17
  Speaker 14: is not the type of person that we want in
• 36:19
  Speaker 14: this country. So goodbye, good riddance, Lisa.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering how this petrol panic is going to change Austra.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: It's not as severe, of course as the COVID pandemic,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: but that had a huge effect on us. You know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: For one, it broke trust in government, which we're seeing
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: now it also got people to use the handouts which
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: we're seeing now and demanding the right to work from home.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: This petrol crisis. How do you think that's going to
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: change us?
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: Well, you're right, it built this dependency we must look
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: to the government. The government will save us. And you know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: I think there has to be an element of you
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: have to look after yourself.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: You do have to plan for yourself. You can't just
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: always be looking for a government handout. The work from
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: home a lot of people now if you.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: Work for the government, you do get to enjoy many
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: days working from home and making sure your laundry is
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: up to date. For someone who runs a small business,
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: you have to accommodate and provide flexibility for that work.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: From home demand now.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: So it's completely changed the culture of the workforce in
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: this country. But I think moving forward, the wake up
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: call for Australians is what you've seen at the petrol bowser.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: We've actually seen how this.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: Whole anti oil, anti gas, anti coal, anti fossil fuels
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: is now actually coming home to bite us and people
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: are standing back and going, actually, you know what, oil
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: isn't such a bad thing.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: And we saw Angus Taylor just last.
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: Night on this network saying drill, drill, drill. So when
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: Trump was saying that a year or two ago, everybody
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: was up in arms. But I think now finally people
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: have had this wake up call to go, actually, you
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: know what, fossil fuels.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Aren't so bad.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so sus Queensland Premier David Christofooley is saying we've
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: got to drill and we've got to refine. Yeah, that
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: said Denika. You know there there are people who are saying,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: look what this pruise is, We're going to go for
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: wind and soul of power. We've got to have more
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: electric cars. On the other hand, you have got people
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: like Chris Fooley and others saying oil oil, oil, drill
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: for it and get it refined in Australia. So which
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: way do you think we're going to go? End up
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: going a popular push for wind and solar or for
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: fossil fuels.
• 38:30
  Speaker 14: Well, Andrew, given we're on this magical carpet ride of
• 38:33
  Speaker 14: a renewables only experiment of transmission line, solar, wind batteries,
• 38:38
  Speaker 14: and green hydrogen, which way do we think? I think
• 38:40
  Speaker 14: we're going to continue on this pathway into the never never?
• 38:43
  Speaker 14: Because even today, the Prime Minister at his press conference
• 38:46
  Speaker 14: you would have heard he came out celebrating electric vehicles, saying, well,
• 38:49
  Speaker 14: you know people are taking up electric vehicles, so you
• 38:52
  Speaker 14: know they're not impacted by the fuel crisis.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, good luck to.
• 38:55
  Speaker 14: You if you can get from A to B without
• 38:57
  Speaker 14: having to park your car and refiel for an extra hour.
• 39:00
  Speaker 14: But if this crisis has taught us anything is that
• 39:03
  Speaker 14: we have to actually rely on the resourcing. We are
• 39:06
  Speaker 14: sitting on an abundance of resources, yet we're not allowed
• 39:09
  Speaker 14: to drill for gas and oil. Well, hello, are we
• 39:13
  Speaker 14: going to try and make sure this never happens again?
• 39:16
  Speaker 14: I mean you asked the question just before, what can
• 39:18
  Speaker 14: we learn from the pandemic or what will change us?
• 39:21
  Speaker 14: We weren't prepared for the pandemic because successive governments sat
• 39:24
  Speaker 14: on their hands, and what we now got a fuel crisis.
• 39:26
  Speaker 14: What we're going to keep sitting on our hands and
• 39:28
  Speaker 14: not be self reliant. Let's start drilling, let's start looking
• 39:32
  Speaker 14: after ourselves. But I fear Andrew, we're going down the
• 39:35
  Speaker 14: way of wind and solar.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, except all those electric cars still need to be
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: electrified by a grid that is predominantly fossil fuels, and
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know how they're going to get away with that,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: and they will demand more and more of those fossil
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: fuels in an electrified grid, so we shall see. I
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: think people will actually revolt against some of the green
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: the green push. But to go to your point earlier,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Lisa about people demanding handouts, you know how the COVID
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: thing really habituated them to this massive handout mentality. Serena
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Russo she created an employment, education and training empire after
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: being fired as a legal secretary. It's inspiring story. It
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: is now very rich, but she's getting attacked for lacking
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: compassion after suggesting that people doing it tough financially should
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: consider finding a second or even third job rather than
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: demand more government handouts in the next budget. I worked
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: for years on three jobs to try and get ahead
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: my family, help my family get ahead. Is that good advice?
• 40:40
  Speaker 11: Gee?
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: Do you think Australians who are sitting there tonight wondering
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: how am I going to pay the electricity bill? The
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: grocery bills are going up and can we even take
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: the kids to school sport on the weekend because we
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: can't afford the petrol. They must love being lectured to
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: by a billionaire. And if you look at all of
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: the comments on the newspaper sites, they're all saying pretty
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: much the same thing. Here is a woman and as
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: you say, you have to respect her because she went
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: out from a legal secretary to making three hundred and
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: forty four million dollars was what she was her net
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: worth was last year, so she's a huge success story.
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: But she has a really tone deaf ear when she's
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: not looking at what's happening in Australia and giving advice
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: about go out there and get a second and third job.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Here's a new splash for you if.
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: You do do that, and there's about a million Australians
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: at the moment who have got a second or a
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: third job. You've then got the problem of the tax
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: being withheld, so you're not actually at the end of
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: the week really left with that much more in your pocket.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: But you've worked all of these extra hours, you've had
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: to juggle children, you've had to compromise on your lifestyle
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: and spending time with your wife or your husband.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Where does that put you?
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: So now, I don't think Serena Russo has done herself
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: any favors whatsoever?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Mind you, I'm talking to a woman here, Lisa, who
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: has right now is doing that second job in her life.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: But Danika to Georgia, what do you make I mean,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: maybe said that I look at a person who's richest
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: out and I think they might have something to tell
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: me about how to get ahead, not you know, they
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be lecturing to me.
• 42:01
  Speaker 14: Yeah, but Andrew, and I will say this, congratulations to her.
• 42:04
  Speaker 14: She's very successful. But she's also highly successful in the
• 42:07
  Speaker 14: field of recruiting and employment training. So of course she's
• 42:11
  Speaker 14: going to tell people to go and look for a
• 42:12
  Speaker 14: second or third job. She's a master of spin herself.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: She wants it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 14: But I do agree there with Lisa. Look, this is
• 42:19
  Speaker 14: very out of touch. She said, No, you can't blame
• 42:21
  Speaker 14: labor for it. Well, hang on a second. Labour's presided
• 42:23
  Speaker 14: over a half in crisis. Haven't achieved any of their
• 42:26
  Speaker 14: housing goals, Andrew, we just spoke about energy. Our bills
• 42:29
  Speaker 14: are through the roof. So Labor does actually have a
• 42:32
  Speaker 14: path to pay a part to play here, and.
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: Anekas she also contacts Yes as a government handout.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Precisely, well said, ladies, Well said, I mean honestly not
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: to blame labor for this mess. Wow, that's something Lisa
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Gotdanika to Georgia. Thank you very much to you both.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: After the great Samara Gill and the humiliation of britain
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: S navy Memory Lane. Remember when this was the song
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: that defined Britain. Britannia rules the Waves. In fact, Britain
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: now has so few ships in that navy the once
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: ruled the world's waves, that just two frigates can now
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: be deployed. Three others are in dock getting repairs or whatever.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: And it's so bad that it had to borrow one
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: frigate from Germany now to take over as the flagship
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: of a NATO mission in the North Atlantic. That's after
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Britain had to send one of those two little frigates
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: that's got left to defend Cyprus. Join me from London
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: every Monday's Talk TV hosts Samara Gil Samara, It's just astonishing.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: How can Britain have fallen this far borrowing a frigate
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: and from Germany of all countries.
• 43:59
  Speaker 15: You're completely right, Andrew, as per usual, you know, Britain
• 44:02
  Speaker 15: is a country that once ruled the ways and it's
• 44:04
  Speaker 15: now borrowing ships from Germany to meet its own commitments.
• 44:08
  Speaker 15: I mean, this isn't just embarrassing. This is national humiliation.
• 44:12
  Speaker 15: It's on an epic scale. We were once a country
• 44:15
  Speaker 15: that went far and wide and colonized to others. You
• 44:18
  Speaker 15: can have opinions on that, but the fact that we've
• 44:21
  Speaker 15: fallen so far from grace is a tragedy. I mean,
• 44:25
  Speaker 15: the UK's got two operational type forty five destroyers out
• 44:29
  Speaker 15: of six, and that's because the rest are sort of
• 44:31
  Speaker 15: left in refit due to long running engine failures. So
• 44:35
  Speaker 15: it's just horrible. I mean, but this isn't just bad luck.
• 44:38
  Speaker 15: This isn't just oh, something broke and now we can't
• 44:40
  Speaker 15: fix it. It's because of years of underinvestment and mismanagement
• 44:44
  Speaker 15: catching up. Long gone are the days of Churchill and
• 44:48
  Speaker 15: William Wallace and those who could actually manage a United
• 44:53
  Speaker 15: Britain and have us ready to defend our country. It's
• 44:58
  Speaker 15: destroyed now and I think we've almost been left the
• 45:02
  Speaker 15: tides come out and we've been left completely exposed. So yeah,
• 45:06
  Speaker 15: I mean, it took three weeks for the HMS Dragon,
• 45:09
  Speaker 15: which was our warship, to even get to the base
• 45:12
  Speaker 15: that it was meant to go to the British base
• 45:14
  Speaker 15: and the HMS Dragon is effectively like sending a wheelchair
• 45:18
  Speaker 15: off into battle if you actually look at what type
• 45:20
  Speaker 15: of artillery it is. I mean it's a very old
• 45:23
  Speaker 15: and rusty ship, so I think it's embarrassing. But unfortunately
• 45:28
  Speaker 15: Britain needs a wake up call like this to start
• 45:31
  Speaker 15: taking our national security and defense seriously.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Honestly, the country of Francis Drake and Horatio Nelson. You
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: know those guys, if they were living now, they'd be
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: scrabbling to get any berth on him his ship. They'd
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: be pushing pins on shore. Samara police have arrested an
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: immigrant from India who ram his car into a crowd
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: in Darby, several people seriously injured. What do you know
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: about the motive?
• 46:01
  Speaker 15: We know that counter terrorism police are involved and we
• 46:05
  Speaker 15: know that yes, he was originally from India, he had
• 46:08
  Speaker 15: been in the UK a number of years. He plowed
• 46:11
  Speaker 15: his car into a group of people. He's been arrested
• 46:14
  Speaker 15: on suspicion of attempted murder, causing serious injury by dangerous
• 46:18
  Speaker 15: driving and GBH grievous bodily harm. So this is a
• 46:23
  Speaker 15: really really serious incident. We don't know all the details
• 46:27
  Speaker 15: just yet. But you know what's the most shocking myth
• 46:30
  Speaker 15: that I think Australians should know is that it's not
• 46:33
  Speaker 15: even the top story in the United Kingdom today. It's
• 46:37
  Speaker 15: pretty low down on the list, which just makes you
• 46:39
  Speaker 15: think how regular of an occurrence is this in Europe
• 46:43
  Speaker 15: and the United Kingdom that it's not even a big
• 46:46
  Speaker 15: deal When people have been injured just going about their
• 46:49
  Speaker 15: daily life. I think that's almost the biggest story once
• 46:52
  Speaker 15: you scope out that it's just another day. In Britain,
• 46:56
  Speaker 15: it seems well well.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Britain's Green Party had a huge debated its conference on
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Saturday on a motion to find Zionism the belief that
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Israel the nation should exist, Zonism as racism and a
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: call for an end to Israel. Now there's a big
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: brawlover procedures, people trying to hold it up. They stopped
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: then actual vote in the motion. But what is going
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: on with that Green Party there?
• 47:25
  Speaker 15: It's a great question. I mean, there was an article
• 47:29
  Speaker 15: over the weekend where Zach Polanski, who's the leader of
• 47:32
  Speaker 15: the Green Party, his own family said that they say
• 47:35
  Speaker 15: that he's a Jew hater and that he's not fit
• 47:39
  Speaker 15: to be ruling. That Party, so his own family is
• 47:42
  Speaker 15: against him. He actually comes from a Jewish family, ironically enough.
• 47:45
  Speaker 15: But I was at covering one of these protests on
• 47:48
  Speaker 15: the weekend where the Green Party was very prevalent, and
• 47:51
  Speaker 15: I spoke to over one hundred people and not a
• 47:54
  Speaker 15: single one of them said that her Mass was a
• 47:57
  Speaker 15: terrorist organization. I'm talking about protest is not Green Party officials,
• 48:02
  Speaker 15: but supporters of the Green Party. So you can see
• 48:05
  Speaker 15: that they are cravingly using things like Zionism as racism
• 48:09
  Speaker 15: and hatred for Churchill. That's another big thing that they're
• 48:12
  Speaker 15: drawing upon in order to make sure that there is
• 48:15
  Speaker 15: a collective vote that they can grab, and unfortunately they're
• 48:20
  Speaker 15: doing a great job of at Andrew. It's scary times.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: And of course, as you told us, the candidate ran
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: in one of the candidates ran in the council seat
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: in Manchester, was the council Sea or a seat in
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Parliament with ads just securely in an MP in du
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, really, the disintegration of Britain is extraordinary, Samara,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Samara gil thanks for your time. That's it from me.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Coming up next Sherry Maxon GOODNIGHTE