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- 0:06Alison Werner: Hello and welcome to the Orthodontic Products
- 0:07podcast. I'm your host Alison Werner. We have a special
- 0:10episode this week touching on a timely issue that may be
- 0:13affecting your community and your practice. Specifically the
- 0:16rise in measles cases in certain parts of the United States. To
- 0:20break down the current situation and what the orthodontic team
- 0:22needs to know to protect staff and patients is infection
- 0:26prevention expert Jackie Dorst. Jackie, thanks for joining me
- 0:29today.
- 0:30Jackie Dorst: Thanks, Alison. It's always good to share
- 0:32information with your viewers.
- 0:35Alison Werner: Great. Well, so I know this is a topic that came
- 0:38up recently on the AAO Staff Club Facebook group. So some of
- 0:43our listeners may be aware of the outbreak in Florida and more
- 0:46recently, they there have been some cases in Michigan. Can you
- 0:49talk about what's currently going on?
- 0:52Jackie Dorst: Yes, the Michelle Ritterscamp with AAO, who
- 0:55manages the AAO staff club, had read about increasing numbers of
- 1:00measles cases in the United States. And she contacted me and
- 1:04she said, Is this a concern for ortho offices? And if so, is
- 1:08there some information that we should be sharing? And so I put
- 1:12together a short informational posting to include on the staff
- 1:17club webpage or a Facebook page with them about the current
- 1:22status of measles infections in the United States, and concerns
- 1:26for the orthodontic office and how we can manage these
- 1:31potential infections if they had an outbreak in their community.
- 1:34So it's very timely information as this, it seems like daily
- 1:40that I'm getting updates from both CDC and in the news media
- 1:44about measles cases in different communities.
- 1:49Alison Werner: Okay, so let's talk about measles. It actually
- 1:52was declared eradicated in the US in 2000. But there have of
- 1:56course, been outbreaks since then they are increasing. So
- 2:00what do we need to know about measles?
- 2:04Jackie Dorst: Well, measles is caused by a virus. It is an
- 2:07airborne transmission of the virus. And it is the most highly
- 2:11infectious of airborne transmitted diseases. You know,
- 2:15we learned about R-naughts the infectivity during the pandemic,
- 2:19and it has an R naught of that estimated between between 15 and
- 2:2418, and is used as the standard really for how infectious are
- 2:29airborne diseases. Measles is a childhood disease that is
- 2:35vaccine preventable. The vaccine is very effective, over 90%
- 2:41protection from it. But we have to have vaccination of 95% of
- 2:48the population to provide that herd immunity. So with the
- 2:54pandemic, interrupting socially and healthcare wise vaccination
- 3:00rates, we've seen a drop in the vaccinations and even prior to
- 3:04that, for whatever reason, there have been communities where
- 3:07vaccination levels have dropped below that 95%. And since 2000,
- 3:12there have been a few years where there was an incidence of
- 3:17measles back diseases with it, and believe the year was 2014.
- 3:22Just to give you an example, Alison, that there was one child
- 3:28who visited Disneyland in California that was infected
- 3:32with measles. And within 14 days, there were over 800 cases
- 3:39of measles that cropped up because of that one child, the
- 3:44zero patient, if you will, being at Disneyland. So we've seen,
- 3:48you know, just a few cases, again of this vaccine
- 3:52preventable diseases until 2019. And then in 2019, it was is if
- 4:00the herd immunity was lost, we dip down in enough communities
- 4:05that there was a peak in infections. And in 2019, there
- 4:10were actually 1,274 infections and the health the public
- 4:17health, you know, was concerned. And then what happened? We had
- 4:21the pandemic and all of the respiratory protections that was
- 4:25implemented with wearing masks, hand hygiene, fresh air in the
- 4:31office and air filtration to prevent COVID transmission
- 4:35prevented respiratory diseases in general, both influenza,
- 4:40colds, RSV, and potentially measles with it, and we didn't
- 4:46see another incident. Now, as we've exited the pandemic, we're
- 4:52in our new normal with it now. People have dropped precautions,
- 4:55right. And we're getting out socially and we're going to
- 4:59sporting events and entertainment events where
- 5:01there's crowds of people and traveling a lot more
- 5:04internationally. And yes, measles was supposed to have
- 5:08been eradicated from the United States in 2000, but not
- 5:11globally. And that's where we've seen, there are other countries
- 5:15where there are higher rates, such as in India and in England,
- 5:20that we're seeing higher rates of measles transmission. And
- 5:23with travel, then you can have patients come back to the United
- 5:26States that acquire an infection. Unvaccinated people,
- 5:31even adults are at risk of an infection, but especially
- 5:35infants. An infant under one year old, they don't receive
- 5:39their, their measles vaccine, their MMR vaccines, measles,
- 5:43mumps, and rubella. All three vaccines are given when the
- 5:47baby's one year old. Younger than that they have their
- 5:50mother's protection with it, and their immune system hasn't
- 5:54developed enough for them to produce antibodies with it. So
- 5:58that's why that vaccinate vaccination is scheduled for the
- 6:02one year mark on it. And babies could get infected during that
- 6:05international travel with it. So highly infectious airborne
- 6:09disease.
- 6:10Alison Werner: So what are some of the symptoms that people
- 6:12should be looking out for?
- 6:15Jackie Dorst: Well, like all virus, respiratory diseases,
- 6:19that cough, you can have a cough with it, runny nose, oh my gosh,
- 6:23that is one of the first symptoms that you'll see. And
- 6:27high fever, fever will run up to 104, possibly 105 with a measles
- 6:33infection. But for us in the orthodontic world, in oral
- 6:38health, one of the first symptoms will be lesions inside
- 6:42the mouth. Before they might even develop the cough or the
- 6:46fever, there is a unique oral lesion called a Koplik spot. And
- 6:53I think you've got some photos of it that you can bring up with
- 6:56us for our viewers to see with it. And they'll usually be on
- 7:00the inside of the buccal mucosa, or on the soft palate. So that's
- 7:04one of the things that I would encourage ortho offices, if you
- 7:09hear of a one or two cases, even in your community, start doing
- 7:13that oral exam, you know, when we look at a patient's mouth,
- 7:16the first thing they're going to look at is the alignment of the
- 7:18teeth. And are there any brackets off? And you know, are
- 7:22we changing archwires today? Or are you due for a new aligner
- 7:26with it? But look on the inside of the cheek, look at the soft
- 7:29palate, do that quick oral soft tissue exam. And if you see any
- 7:33of those Koplik dots, then definitely that's an alert. I
- 7:39would segregate the patient into another room even not even in
- 7:44the open bay area. Because this virus with it being an airborne
- 7:49disease, it can stay suspended in the air for up to two hours
- 7:53after an infected patient is even sitting in the reception
- 7:57room for 15 minutes or in the open bay. So you would want to
- 8:01segregate them immediately. And then dismiss them and reschedule
- 8:05them for another appointment and just say, you know, we are
- 8:09suspicious of this, looks like we're not definite, please go
- 8:13see your doctor. And because we don't have I airborne isolation
- 8:17rooms in our ortho office. So you don't want to put the rest
- 8:20of the team or other patients at risk.
- 8:23Alison Werner: Okay. And then what are the complications with
- 8:26measles?
- 8:27Jackie Dorst: Well, a measles infection, we think of it is a
- 8:30childhood disease and you know you're sick for a week or so
- 8:34stay out of school. I was born before 1957, which is the year
- 8:39that the measles vaccine was introduced in it and we saw mass
- 8:45vaccination starting in the 60s with it. And CDC says that
- 8:49anyone born before 1957 is assumed to have acquired
- 8:53immunity having had that infection. And I remember when I
- 8:57had it, and one of the things is having ear complications with
- 9:02it. The infection can actually affect the ear and cause hearing
- 9:07loss that is a lifelong hearing loss or affects the eyes. I
- 9:10remember both with chickenpox and measles, my mom said, Hey,
- 9:14I've got to stay in a dark room, you're not gonna play outside in
- 9:16the bright sunshine, while you have that ocular eye infection.
- 9:21And of course, it's the rash over the full body. The high
- 9:24temperature can be a risk with it. And it can be there are
- 9:29fatalities with it. Not a lot. It's you know, maybe one in 1000
- 9:34and it's usually from complications such as developing
- 9:36pneumonia. So initially, the cough, runny nose with it and
- 9:41the high fever and of course, like any viral infection, the
- 9:45aches and pains, the fatigue with it, but those oral lesions
- 9:49are a real early symptom that we can identify in our orthodontic
- 9:55practices.
- 9:57Alison Werner: Okay, so you talked about the oral exam and
- 9:59those are only And so what can staff do? What can the ortho
- 10:05team be doing to protect staff and patients?
- 10:08Jackie Dorst: Well, let's go back to what we learned during
- 10:12the pandemic. And it's about protecting against all of those
- 10:16airborne diseases. And I'm going to call in CDC refers to them as
- 10:21ILI, influenza like illnesses. So flu, RSV, colds, all of those
- 10:30diseases that can be transmitted in the air, then we want to take
- 10:35precautions. So number one, how is your heating and air
- 10:38conditioning system working is it at its maximum efficiency,
- 10:42you want to have at least six air changes per hour. When have
- 10:47you change your your filter on the heating and air conditioning
- 10:49system. We learned that a MERV 13, minimum efficiency reporting
- 10:54value, provides at least 50% filtration of point three micron
- 10:59size particles. And that should be changed on a regular basis. I
- 11:03can't give you how often, it depends on how busy your ortho
- 11:07practice is. If you're working four days a week, and you're
- 11:10seeing 200 patients a day, you probably need to change your
- 11:13filter more frequently than an office that works three days a
- 11:16week and maybe sees 40 to 60 patients. So what's the traffic
- 11:21in your office how you know that you need to change that filter.
- 11:25And I would suggest at least once a quarter if not once a
- 11:29month, depending on the traffic with it, and then you want as
- 11:32much fresh air coming into the building as possible. And we use
- 11:37an indirect way of measuring that looking at the carbon
- 11:40dioxide. Because the more densely populated we have the
- 11:45office, more patients the team members in the office. If that
- 11:49carbon dioxide where we're exhaling each time gets above
- 11:53800 parts per million, then the risk of acquiring an airborne
- 11:56infectious disease is greater normal outdoor carbon dioxide
- 12:00levels are at 400 parts per million. So keeping a simple co2
- 12:05monitor that you can buy online, in the reception room and in the
- 12:09open bay area is a good way to monitor, Do we have enough fresh
- 12:14air in our office. And then I would definitely check with the
- 12:18vaccination status of all your employees. I think that's
- 12:22important. We've had new team members join our offices as we
- 12:27had some maybe early retirements during the pandemic, if you have
- 12:31a team member who was not vaccinated as a child, then
- 12:35they're going to be at high risk of acquiring infection, and
- 12:38especially for say, young women in their 20s and 30s who could
- 12:43possibly be pregnant. If they were not vaccinated and acquire
- 12:48a measles infection, then it could affect their developing
- 12:52fetus. So again, recommending they go get that vaccine. It's
- 12:57one of the vaccines recommended for all healthcare providers by
- 13:01CDC in the US. And even if they haven't been previously
- 13:05vaccinated, if you had an outbreak in your community and a
- 13:08patient was identified as infectious, then go get that
- 13:11vaccine right now because even you having that vaccine before
- 13:17you develop signs or symptoms can help reduce symptoms or even
- 13:20prevent an infection. So it wouldn't be too late to say, oh,
- 13:24I've already been exposed. The vaccine won't do me any good.
- 13:28Alison Werner: Okay. And then what should offices do if there
- 13:33is an exposure in their office?
- 13:34Jackie Dorst: Because the disease is so highly infectious,
- 13:37let's say you do have that patient come in, and you do the
- 13:41oral exam and you see the lesions and you go, I would go
- 13:45ahead and notify patients that, you know, there has been a
- 13:49measles outbreak in the community, and it's been
- 13:53identified in within your office because of the risk. You want to
- 13:58notify patients. And if those patients have any unvaccinated
- 14:03family members or patients that were in your office within the
- 14:08last five days or so, because again, patients can be
- 14:13infectious before they show signs or symptoms, and then
- 14:16they're highly infectious for that three to five days
- 14:18afterwards. I would say, Please watch for symptoms. And if you
- 14:22do observe symptoms, please immediately go for a measles
- 14:26vaccine, see your physician and go from measles vaccination. And
- 14:31I would say watch for symptoms for 14 days, because the
- 14:34incubation period can be anywhere from 10 to 14 days with
- 14:37measles.
- 14:40Alison Werner: Okay. And then just to go back to keeping the
- 14:44ortho team and patients say, what are the masking what what
- 14:48do you recommend in terms of masking just to keep the
- 14:51practice safe?
- 14:52Jackie Dorst: Well, I've had a there's a debate and it's just
- 14:56going to be an office policy at this time. Ortho offices need to
- 15:00watch for postings on their local health department about
- 15:05airborne diseases especially such as measles, and we're going
- 15:08to see other emerging and reemerging diseases in the
- 15:11future. So you just need to stay aware of community transmission
- 15:16and your office, verify that you are current with your infection
- 15:21control standards with your know what your disinfectants are, are
- 15:25they effective against healthcare acquired infections.
- 15:30And speaking of that, EPA, which regulates disinfectants, now
- 15:35just published a new blood borne pathogens list that is called
- 15:39the EPA List S. And it combined about five different lists that
- 15:44EPA had. So you want to make sure that your, your
- 15:49disinfectant that you're using is on that List S, you know, as
- 15:53a health care disinfect disinfectant. Review your
- 15:57airborne disease transmission precautions, and then screening
- 16:01patients with it. Wearing a mask is always from the respiratory
- 16:06disease system from October until April a wise precaution.
- 16:12It is a prevention with it. And it doesn't have to be that N95
- 16:16respirator mask. It can be a level two, or a level three.
- 16:21Both of those procedure masks provide the same level of
- 16:25particle filtration. With them, the only difference is a slight
- 16:29fluid increase with the level three on there. So it would be
- 16:33wise to wear that mask as a prevention for both the front
- 16:37desk team and the clinical team. Because this disease is not one
- 16:41that's just transmitted in blood or saliva, it's airborne. So the
- 16:45entire team needs to be protected. And many hospitals
- 16:49during the season are reimplementing mas protocols for
- 16:52both visitors, patients and staff during this time,
- 16:56especially during the community outbreak, so you have to use
- 16:59good professional judgment and keep up with community
- 17:03transmission of diseases in your area.
- 17:05Alison Werner: Right. And they can find that information
- 17:07through their their local health department.
- 17:10Jackie Dorst: The their local health department. And I have in
- 17:13my Google Alerts. That's what I go through every morning what
- 17:16pops up in the entire United States and even globally on
- 17:20safety and infectious diseases. But the health department in
- 17:25both the media, the media has been good to alert about the
- 17:29outbreaks that are in Florida now. I know this morning, I saw
- 17:33three new cases that were just in Michigan. And when you have
- 17:37an outbreak there, it can spread like fire through a community
- 17:43because of the high infectivity and the airborne disease. So
- 17:46keeping up with your your local health department is one of the
- 17:50best ways to stay informed.
- 17:52Alison Werner: Okay. And I know you wanted to make a
- 17:55recommendation to doctors to visit the CDC website page
- 17:59focused on measles. Should they Well,
- 18:01Jackie Dorst: as the case has started reemerging. I thought I
- 18:04need to review what are signs and symptoms complications. And
- 18:07the CDC are this is another improvement that we're seeing
- 18:12post pandemic with it. CDC is updating their website. I didn't
- 18:19realize it but there are over 220,000 web pages in the CDC
- 18:25website. And if you've been looking for information, and
- 18:28especially during the pandemic, we will all spend maybe two or
- 18:31three hours trying to find a specific page with it. They are
- 18:35in the beta test. Now I was privileged to sit in on the
- 18:38initial introductory meeting for that last week. And it's going
- 18:42to be a huge improvement. Much, much more user friendly, easy to
- 18:49locate information with it. And we won't lose information as the
- 18:54CDC is revamping their website. Some of it that's not that's it
- 18:59will be archived. And it will still be available if you want
- 19:02to do a deep search on it. But it's going to bring up the more
- 19:05relevant information and as things change that there'll be
- 19:09posted with it. So I looked up measles on the CDC website,
- 19:14you'll go to the main page, then go down to what health care
- 19:18professionals need to know. Click on that. And there is an
- 19:22educational video. And the same PowerPoint slides that were used
- 19:27in the video that came were posted in last fall. And it was
- 19:33from what's called COCA and it's the communication on for
- 19:39communities on issues of health for CDC that they put out and
- 19:45they do COCA calls routinely with emerging issues such as
- 19:49measles with it. And just reviewing those the PowerPoint
- 19:52slides, it took me about maybe five to 10 minutes to click
- 19:56through about 40 of those relevant slides. How the disease
- 20:00is transmitted, what are the symptoms? What's the prevention
- 20:04with it? And what are the risks or complications with the
- 20:07disease? I think it's wise for every doctor and for the
- 20:11clinical team to quickly review those slides. If they prefer to
- 20:14listen to the video, they have the option of listening to the
- 20:17video just to update themselves on measles, and the measles
- 20:22complications with it and how it could affect the orthodontic
- 20:26practice.
- 20:26Alison Werner: Okay, well, we will provide a link to that
- 20:30measles website, as well as the direct page for the video and
- 20:34then a direct page or direct link for the for the PowerPoint
- 20:38slide, Jackie, as always, it's great to see you and thank you
- 20:41so much for all this information.
- 20:44Jackie Dorst: Well, thank you for sharing this information. I
- 20:46think it's very timely Alison. And my hope is that this measles
- 20:50infection will just be a little blip. But it's wise for us to
- 20:55share the information in case there are is a bigger spread
- 20:59with communities. And the orthodontic team knows how to
- 21:04care for patients safely and to prevent transmissions in their
- 21:07office. So thank you for sharing the information about the AAO's
- 21:12orthodontic staff club and the AAO being proactive and sharing
- 21:16this information and for getting the information out. There are
- 21:21always emerging issues that we can do to be the best in our
- 21:26orthodontic practices.
- 21:28Alison Werner: Exactly. All right. Well, thank you so much.
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