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Joba and the Mouth 12-18-25 · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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Why not putting in one of the top three offensive players in
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Aaron Judge and saying that he can't win the big game, Michael
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You don't see the fun doing that.
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Four, I told you, giant feet, Saquon Barkley at
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Let's do it. You're listening to Jabba and
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the Mouth. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We are back ladies and gentlemen.
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It's been a crazy, crazy day. You're listening to a no new
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We will not have any fish here tonight.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Fish has been dealing with some doggy
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situations and hopefully. Let's pray for his dog.
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His dog is dealing with something.
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I I would say that dogs aren't supposed to eat chocolate.
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And he told me, he called me while him and his wife were
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rushing the dog to the veterinarian, the hospital that
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he ate cookies, ate cookies and they had to rush him to the
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hospital. I don't know what they're going
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to do. I don't know if they're pumping
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the pumping his stomach. I don't know how that works with
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a dog. But when you hear something like
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that, I feel bad because I know Fish has told me his dog is like
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his kid and I, I don't have a dog.
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I don't have any animals here at my place, so I I've had.
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Your studio thought. Well, that's an animal I don't
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want to deal with. Okay, at least you don't have to
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walk him and take him to go to the bathroom.
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Right. Well, sometimes I, I feel like I
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have to, you know? Hey, you win some, you lose
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some, right? Yeah, definitely win some and
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lose. Some they always say blood is
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thicker than water when it comes to family, but some of your
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family sometimes isn't blood and it ends up being thicker.
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Right. I will say this for all the fans
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out there, the football season is almost over and there's Joe
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Burrow story and we're going to get into a little, a little bit
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later. I definitely want to speak about
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some of the things that Joe Burrow has said over the last 24
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to 48 hours, which is pretty alarming to me if I'm a
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Cincinnati Bengals fan. He doesn't, even though he says
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he believes he will be playing for the Cincinnati Bagels next
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year. A lot of the inside sources and
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friends and family have said that he is not very happy with
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the organization. It doesn't like what the
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organization has done in the past couple of years, especially
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protecting him. The offensive line has been
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horrendous and he's been hit more than any quarterback in the
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last Four Seasons. He also hasn't played as much as
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every single quarterback because every other year he's hurt.
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So I you can tell that Joe Burrow is he's in that state of
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mind. Where is the Bengals, the
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organization he wants to finish his career with?
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Or is he going to do an Andrew Luck where he just decides to
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walk away from the sport and the game and he doesn't feel like he
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needs to prove himself anymore as a professional athlete.
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So I don't know what Joe Burrow is to be planning to do in the
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near future, but over the offseason, ladies and gentlemen,
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I'm interested to see how Cincinnati is going to react to
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it. Zach Taylor, is he going to keep
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his job with the, you know, back-to-back years of just not
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making the playoffs? And, and really an organization
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that at one point was one of the best teams in the AFC, one of
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the up and coming teams they had, they have the offensive
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rookie of the year. They had a team that went all
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the way to the Super Bowl and fell short against the Rams.
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And now you have your quarterback not very happy with
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the organization. Not really.
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The perspective of the organization is, is the the GM
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has no idea what he's doing. He loves the coach and I think
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he believes that the coach is going to get let go.
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And, and if that happens, does he want to be there?
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Because the organization has been not a successful one.
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And, and the last time, but besides this run that they made
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a couple of years ago into the Super Bowl, the last time they
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went to the Super Bowl was with Boomerasiasen against the 49ers.
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It has been a long, long time since the the lonely Cincinnati
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Bengals have really got gotten over the hump and and to have a
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quarterback of this magnitude. They did have one they had as a
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Heisman Trophy winning Carlson Palmer, who ran himself out of
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Cincinnati after what, 5-6 years?
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So and what where we are, where we at right now with Joe Burrow,
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he's been about 5-6 years in the mix with this team, this
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organization. Is it 5 or 6 years BD or is it
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76? It's six years.
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So this is about the time that Carlson Parma decided to part
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ways with the Cincinnati Bengals.
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And he came out and said at his press conference at the end of
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the season is I don't know if I even want to play anymore.
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And if I do, I don't want to be playing for this organization.
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So it's alarming to me, if you're in any Cincinnati Bengal
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fan that's listening to the show right now, I feel for you
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because I've been a Jet fan my whole life, my whole life, and
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I've been waiting to get a quarterback of this magnitude.
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And now you have a quarterback that you believed was going to
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be your franchise. He's fairly young.
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He's only 2829 years old, still has his whole career.
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He's at the prime of his career as a quarterback and he doesn't
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want to be there anymore. He's at his wit's end with the
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organization and that's alarming to me.
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So hopefully, hopefully very, very soon and speedy stop
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typing. It's annoying.
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You're terrible at it. I will say this.
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When you when you look at the organization and where the
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organization is, you would worry that your best player, your
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franchise quarterback does not want to be there.
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And you just overpaid Jamar Chase and T Higgins and you have
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no defense, you have no future there because Trey Hendrickson
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is going to be a free free agent in the offseason.
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And your number one draft pick was a pass rusher who looks like
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he's going to be a bust. So it to me, it's just
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everything is falling apart right in front of the Bengals
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eyes and they're turning into that franchise again that can
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never get over the hump. So very interesting.
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But Jabba, how's the weather over there in the one and only
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Nebraska? Well, it's it's a little bit
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chillier now, but we get through the weekend and then it's
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supposed to be back in the mid 50s.
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So that's the, like I said, the epitome of what I've said before
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in the bipolarness of what Nebraska weather is.
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So, yeah, now been a busy day. Got a great workout with Carter
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in today. Got to do some business stuff
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that is literally might pull me away for a minute.
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But just one of those days where you know, when, when things fall
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into place and, and you know, the right people and, and you
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get into the right, you know, realm of, of what your what your
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lane is and, and, and get a meet, like I said, those right
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people and, and have the connections and some really cool
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things coming down the road, which I'm excited to share.
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And, you know, I think there's there's a part of this show
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that's going to be a part of that dynamic, which I don't
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think any other conglomerate that can say that to be able to
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be a part of something really, really cool.
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So I'm excited. So, you know, it's a legwork.
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We crawl before we walk, but like I say, let's crawl before
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we walk because then we went on a crawl back before we walked.
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8:45 We'll be talking to MLB.com.
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Yankee beat reporter and author of 62 Brian Hoke will be joining
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us. He's been on a show.
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He's 1 of Jabba's men and we're happy to have him on.
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I know he's been working really, really hard for the Yankees and
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his obviously storytelling over there at the winter meetings.
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The Yankees have not made any moves.
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So I am sure Brian Hoke has the inside scoop with the New York
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Yankees, maybe some other inside scoop with the New York Mets and
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what the New York Mets are doing right now because they're
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absolutely lost. And I, I don't know why anybody
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thinks that Jorge Polanco is going to fix any of the problems
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they have as far as looting, losing Pete Alonzo and Edwin
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Diaz. I mean, I, I'm not saying Jorge
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Polanco is not a good player. He's 32 years old and how many
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years does he have left at the top of his game?
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They signed it to a two year extension.
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But I, I, I mean, do you really need any more infield help?
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I, I think your infield's pretty set.
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So I, I don't get this move. I guess they're adding another
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bat, another I guess Dominican, I think is Polanco Dominican or
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is he Puerto Rican? He's another Spanish player.
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So I I see what the Mets are trying to do.
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And, and I understand they have a Spanish coach and they have a
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lot of big time superstars that are Spanish.
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You have Lindor, you have Soto and and they're building around
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that. So we'll see how this all is
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going to fit together. Speaking of fitting together,
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ESPN Adam Schefner reports that the Miami Dolphins have benched
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tour after his poor play in a 28 to 15 Monday Night Football loss
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to the Steelers. Rookie queen of yours.
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I love him and I watched him play for Texas.
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Was named the starting quarterback for the weeks for
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for this week's match up against the Bengals.
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With Zach Wilson backing him up to who will be the emergency
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third string quarterback. Head coach Mike McDaniel said
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that he has been disappointed in the quarterback play this season
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as the Dolphins have gone to a run heavy attack with Tua's poor
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performance hurting the passing attack.
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Tua leads the NFL with 15 interceptions this year and had
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the had just 65 yards through 3/4 in Monday's loss against the
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Steelers. Tua has two more years left on
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his BIG4 year deal worth about $212 million he signed in 2024.
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Really releasing to a would cost the Dolphins $99.2 million in
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dead cap space. Although if they wait until
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after June 1st to cut him, they can spread that dead cap out of
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two years. When it comes to the contract to
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express his disappointment with the move, but said he would do
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what he what he could do to help yours.
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The Miami Herald reports that Zach Wilson was frustrated that
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the Dolphins started yours over him.
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With the loss to the Steelers, the Dolphins fell to six and
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eight and are now in danger of having their first losing record
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under McDaniels and have officially been eliminated from
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the playoffs. I, I will say this, if you're a
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Dolphins fan, you're wondering if this organization is on the
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right path. I like Mike McDaniels.
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I, I, I've always liked Mike McDaniel.
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He's a he's a good young coach. He's small.
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I call him Mighty Mouse. He he stands on a stepping stool
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and he speaks with such enthusiasm.
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He's a scientific personality. I think he went to one of the
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top schools in the country, one of the top collegiate schools
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because of his mind and his his presence when it comes to
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understanding and educating people on and off the football
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field. But this is football.
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This is a man's sport and it's a rough man sport and to me, Mike
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McDaniels has done what you needed him to do to prove that
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he deserves another year. I think obviously trading and
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letting players go at the trade deadline some some of your best
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defensive players. You traded A linebacker and
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Phillips to the Eagles. He's won.
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He's been one of your better players on the defensive side of
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the ball to trade him. You're pretty much calling it
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quits in the middle of the season and then you lose Tyree
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Kill early in the season with a a horrible injury.
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It was just horrible to watch and a lot of people thought that
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Tyree Kill would have been traded to the the the Chiefs or
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one of these top end teams that are fighting for a playoff spot
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at the trade deadline anyways, because Tyreek has not been the
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player they thought he was going to be over the last two seasons,
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they extended him. He's not been the same Tyreek
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Hill that we saw the first two years with the Miami Dolphins
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and rarely the last two years where he dominated, dominated
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with the Kansas City Chiefs. But Miami is a team and an
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organization that could be comparable to the New York Jets,
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comparable to the Browns. Ownership doesn't know what
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they're doing. Ownership decides to make
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drastic moves. Now, making this move, first of
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all, parting ways with two attack of Viola with what, four
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games left makes no sense. If you were going to do this,
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you should have done this in the middle of the season after the
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trade deadline. Because if you're trading away
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pieces, you're pretty much telling the fan base that you're
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parting with the season. And that's what they did.
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But I got to give Mike McDaniel a little bit of credit because
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Mike McDaniel did what you wanted your coach to do.
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No matter how many moves they made and whatever they decided
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to part ways with, he still found a way to win.
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He still had these guys playing for him, which shows that the
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players still believe that he can coach and still believe in
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him as a coach. So why even think to part ways
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with him in the offseason? But then you look at Tua and you
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look at him at 15 interceptions, he hasn't been the elite
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quarterback we thought he was going to be.
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And if you remember the Dolphins, and I'm not going to
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mention what coach, but at that point when they drafted to her,
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they were really interested in Justin Herbert.
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They had a chance to land Justin Herbert, but the organization
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decided to draft to her. Justin Herbert has become one of
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the elite quarterbacks in the League, One of the more I would
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say top 7 heavy quarterbacks, elite quarterbacks in the
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league. You can see that he's changed
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his style ever since Jim Harbaugh has come into the mix.
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And I'm not saying Mike McDaniel would have changed Justin
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Herbert into an elite quarterback, but what I do know
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is Mike McDaniel has done a lot with very little and with a
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quarterback with two attack Viola.
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He has not been the quarterback that he was with Alabama, a
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national champion, a guy that can make when he was playing
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college football, every single throw, can move outside of the
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pocket, use his legs because he's had concussion problems.
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And ever since that first concussion happened in the NFL,
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which has been about five of them, he has been stagnant and
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not believing that he should move outside of the pocket and
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make a play with his legs because he's afraid to get
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clothes line and be on the IR. But Miami is in a division
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that's been dominated by Buffalo for the last five or six years
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and has been dominated by the New England Patriots for about
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20. And you look at the
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organization, they have one of the richest owners and one of
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the dumbest owners in professional sports.
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He spends money like it's, it's, it's, it's like Monopoly money
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when it comes to this guy. And he just makes the wrong
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decisions as an owner. I remember a couple of years
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ago, ownership has decided to spread out the wealth and bring
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in movie stars and actress and actresses to be partial owners
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of the organization. Why?
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To maybe draw more people to the stands, more fans to come and
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watch the games. Or just make these owners or
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these players more important and have these guys or these girls
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come to the games and enjoy it with the ownership.
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Nevertheless, this is an organization that has done
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everything wrong, but they're not the worst organization, and
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they're still an organization that has pieces where they can
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build on #1 Waddle is a great player.
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Waddle is still one of the elite wide receivers.
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When healthy. Waddle is a guy that could be a
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number one in this league and be a top five, top ten type of wide
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receiver #2A Chan is a great running back, one of the fastest
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running backs in the league, and he has become an elite running
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back in this league. And #3 the fans, no matter how
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bad this team is, just like the Jet fans, they show up week in
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and week out and cheer for their teams.
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It it doesn't matter where it is, the Dolphin fans are always
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there cheering for their teams. And Mike McDaniel to me is not
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the problem. He's never been the problem.
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It's just the organization as a whole, ownership does not know
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what he what they're doing. And again, where they're moving
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and where they should be moving is in a spot where they're
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building around a draft building, around youth, building
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around the future. And to a Tiger Viola, he should
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be angry. You know why he should be angry?
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Because he should be angry on why the Miami Dolphins even gave
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him that contract, because was he worth the money?
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I do. I I do believe that too.
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For two years was an elite quarterback in his league.
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He was back and forth. He he threw a lot of touchdowns.
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He got this team in the playoffs a couple of times.
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It's not like he wasn't a decent quarterback, but was he worth
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the money that they paid him? It was $190 million, if I'm not
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mistaken. I don't know.
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It was 53,000,000 a year and then they had an injury clause
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mixed into it because of obviously how much he gets hurt.
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So he pretty much robbed the Miami Dolphins.
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Now anybody and, and I know Jabba's going to say the same
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thing. Jabba will come in and out of
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the scope and say the same friggin thing.
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You can't knock a player on the money he's making.
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You can't knock a player because he's making that kind of money
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because the organization decided to go that route.
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I will knock the organization because they've done wrong by
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the organization on putting this kid in a position to not
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succeed. The offensive line.
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How bad is the offensive line been this year?
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Speedy? Really bad.
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It's been really, really bad. It's been one of the worst
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offensive lines in the league. And yeah, it was better than
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last year. And then if you look at it, you
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have a guy that has concussion problems, and every single time
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he looks one way and looks the other, there's somebody coming
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from a blitz or a package where he's got to either go down or
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run for dear life or throw the ball away.
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And he doesn't even run anymore. Because if he does, he's going
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to be knocked the hell out. We've seen it enough.
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I remember what was it 2 years ago when he got clothesline or
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got ran into where his whole body went stiff in the middle of
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a football field. I've never seen anything like
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that before. It's scary when you watch
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something like that. It's scary.
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And to think that this is an organization that has done every
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single thing wrong for the players that they have, there is
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an understatement. Because they overpaid.
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Tyree Kill Tyree kill whole held the organization up for ransom
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because he wanted to get as much money as he possibly can firm
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from them. And then all of a sudden after
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the fact said, hey, you know what, I might not even finish my
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contract. I might play another two years
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at the age of 30, I might retire.
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I mean, it seems like every single player that decides to go
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and play in Miami does something stupid that makes you shake your
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head or wonders or gives you the thought in your mind that this
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organization really does not know Speedy what they're doing.
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Now, it's weird because I think they've been a little better
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than they have been in previous years where it seemed like they
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were only getting these old players coming in.
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The Dolphins seemed like a retirement home for a lot of
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these just flashy names for a while.
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And then all of a sudden they they started with Mike McDaniel
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kind of getting younger all at once.
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They made the trade for Hill. He was the one veteran guy, but
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even when they traded for him, he was still 27 at the time.
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Like he was still young long enough where he was in his peak.
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And it seemed like for a while they were at least growing to
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something else where they're not like you're like you said, the
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worst run organization yet they're still probably a bottom
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10 run organization because of that.
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Now, we've had different guests on the show that have mentioned
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that they treat the players very well.
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The facilities are very good, but what does that matter if 2
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was keep getting hurt like that? And I think the one you were
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mentioning last year too was the one where DeMar Hamlin
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completely whacked him at the at in the red zone.
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And that I blamed him at the time because that was
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self-inflicted. And I think the instincts are
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the instincts are not there for somebody like him at this point.
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And you wonder if that's gotten to his head at some point where
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he he's making mistakes now. He was never this interception
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prone ever. Like he wasn't great on the run.
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He would doesn't he never had this huge, huge arm, even though
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his deep accuracy metrics are very good.
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And I think that's something that's gotten him more than
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expected because they still move the ball very well.
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Tua still has a decent amount of passing.
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You're not amazing amount of passing yards, but you can only
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go so far without Tyree kill in the lineup.
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And Jaylen Waddle's been just really streaky the last two
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years since he signed his contract.
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Eight chance been very good and the defense ever since the
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beginning of the seasons looked better, but they did the same
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thing last year and didn't get him anywhere.
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So you're right, they're A-Team that's kind of stuck in a very
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weird mediocrity. They're going to have to be
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stuck with the contract. I don't think it's worth buying
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him out at this point. I don't think when you or is
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unless he shows Flash is going to be much of anything right
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now. And even if he does then just OK
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you haven't want to. Work well, yours was going to be
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a top first round draft pick out one point of his career and then
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things just fell apart for him and he had a bad season and
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Texas and the Longhorns were not playing at the top of their
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game. And yours kind of fell out of
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the 1st and then fell what, to the third or fourth round.
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He went from possibly a top 30 pick all the way to what, what
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was he drafted? Yours was seventh round, seventh
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round. So I, I, he was expected
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honestly, he fell even further there.
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He was expected to be a fourth round pick and he fell all the
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way to the seventh round. Now I don't know what yours is
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going to be. Maybe they find lightning in a
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bottle. I, I don't know what he's going
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to be. What I do know is this is again
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going to be another offseason where the organization is going
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to wonder. Do they go into the draft next
23:48
year? Do they move up to go after a
23:51
Fernando Mendoza? What do they have to give up to
23:54
move up to #1 with the New York Giants or even Vegas?
23:57
If Vegas willing to trade that, which you're probably not.
24:00
If Vegas lose out, loses out their games and loses against
24:03
the Giants, because I think that's the only game the Vegas
24:07
Raiders have a chance of winning in the next three weeks.
24:10
If they win that game, they knock themselves out of the top
24:13
five. If they if they lose that game,
24:16
they have a chance to be the number one pick because then the
24:18
giants fall out of it and fall all the way to six or five in in
24:22
this draft list of tank Athon team.
24:26
So I, I mean, you look at the AFC East right now and is Miami
24:30
the worst team in the AFC East? No, The Jets are so are the
24:33
Giant are the are the Giants are my is Miami done that bad this
24:39
year where you could just part ways with two attack FAO?
24:42
And now when you look at his numbers, you would say, yes, 15
24:45
interceptions and he leads the league in 15 interceptions.
24:48
He's thrown more interceptions than touchdowns.
24:50
That is alarming. And then you'll hear what Tua
24:53
said after the Pittsburgh Steelers game and what Aaron
24:55
Rodgers told him and say keep your head up, keep working.
24:59
You still have a chance to be a good quarterback in this league.
25:01
But does he really have a good chance of being a good
25:05
quarterback in this league? How old is Tua now?
25:07
He's at 2828 years old. What team is going to give him a
25:11
chance? You've seen Russell Wilson.
25:12
Russell Wilson won a Super Bowl, he was up for a couple of times
25:16
for an MVP candidate and he was one of the elite quarterbacks in
25:20
the league for at least three or four years.
25:22
Has Tua ever been elite quarterback in this league?
25:25
He was never a top five quarterback.
25:26
He was. He was top ten, I think the 20,
25:29
23 season. I think that was the Dolphins
25:31
biggest peak. And what did they do that year?
25:32
They collapsed the division away when they had like a three-game
25:34
lead on the Bills late in the season.
25:36
And I think they really haven't recovered since then, both
25:39
structurally and again with two as injuries.
25:41
I think that when you look at the organization as a whole and
25:43
you look at Miami as a whole, where do they believe they
25:48
should go in the offseason? Now 2 is gone.
25:50
They're going to do whatever they can.
25:52
They'll probably wait until June 1st.
25:54
They'll let it. They'll they'll probably let him
25:56
go. He'll go to free agency and
25:58
they'll be a team. They'll there will be a team
26:00
that is looking for a veteran quarterback that is going to
26:02
start the year looking for a guy to start over a rookie that they
26:06
draft. Maybe The Jets.
26:07
I could see The Jets doing that. Maybe that's the spot for the
26:09
Vikings. The Vikings are are another
26:11
team. They're looking for somebody to
26:12
challenge JJ McCarthy, who's had a very bad season as a rookie.
26:16
Somebody out there is going to be looking for a veteran
26:19
quarterback and is going to be willing to bring him in to
26:23
figure out. How about this, if Cincinnati
26:25
decides to trade Joe Burrow, do the Cincinnati Bengals bring in
26:29
in a guy like to attack? If Iola to sit for a year and
26:33
figure out if he's the guy for the next two or three years
26:36
because they have TT Higgins under contract and and Jamar
26:39
Chase, they're going to need a veteran quarterback that's going
26:42
to get him the ball. Because even if Cincinnati
26:45
decides, if they move Joe Burrow and and again, they'll be teams
26:49
giving them at least two first round draft picks for two Joe
26:52
Burrow and he they're going to want a top ten pick because
26:55
there's Simpson, there's going to be a quarterback.
26:57
Maybe they go after a quarterback in the second round
26:59
because they're saying Beck could fall to the second round
27:01
now that seller is going back to college.
27:04
Maybe Beck is a late first round draft pick, so maybe they trade
27:08
down or whatever they do to to bring in a Beck who might be
27:12
going for making a run for a national championship.
27:15
I don't know where they go. What I do know right now is
27:19
Miami is parting ways with Tua. No, Zach Wilson being upset, I
27:23
could care less. I mean, this guy was a top three
27:28
pick. He felled as a New York Jet.
27:30
If he really was going to win the job at any point this year,
27:33
he would have proven himself and he would have taken that job for
27:36
Tua. He couldn't have been as bad as
27:38
Tua. Maybe.
27:39
Well, Kenny, I don't know, I've seen him, I've seen him bad with
27:42
the New York Jets. So I don't know how bad Zach
27:44
Wilson would have played with the elite wide receiving core
27:47
that they had before Tyree kill went down and and a chant is not
27:51
too shabby either. He's a guy that can catch the
27:53
ball in the backfield and make plays in the open field.
27:55
So they've got weapons. It's not like Miami can't
27:58
compete and and don't have a speedy type of offense that can
28:02
get the ball in the end zone. What worries me is I don't know
28:06
if this organization is capable of picking the right guy or
28:10
making the right decisions to decide on what this organization
28:14
should do in the future. Because the quarterback position
28:17
we've known as as football fans is the most important position
28:22
in sports. And if you don't have the right
28:24
guy in position to succeed, you don't have anything.
28:27
And we've seen that with The Jets.
28:29
The Jets haven't had a starting quarterback in 50 years.
28:32
And I don't want to hear about Mark Sanchez because as good as
28:34
Mark Sanchez was in some parts of his career, he wasn't an
28:39
elite quarterback. He had an elite defense.
28:41
He had an elite running game. And that's why they were where
28:43
they were. That's why they went to
28:44
back-to-back AFC title games. Mark Sanchez was not good
28:48
because the only time you can remember or even pick out what
28:51
Mark Sanchez did in the league, you forget about what he did in
28:55
the AFC title games or you forget about him getting to the
28:58
getting The Jets in the AFC title game.
28:59
What you do remember Mark Sanchez doing is the butt
29:02
fumble. That's what you remember.
29:04
So and, and, and a lot of Jet quarterbacks are known to do
29:07
stupid things, AKA Sam Darnold. What do you remember what Sam
29:10
Darnold did as a Jet, as a Jet player?
29:13
Well, when he went to New England on Thursday Night
29:15
Football, he created after the game, he created his own ghosts.
29:19
So it seems like Jet quarterbacks and Miami
29:23
quarterbacks just can't get over the hump.
29:25
And it seems like they they flash different quarterbacks.
29:29
Think about it. Chad Pennington was a New York
29:31
Jet quarterback, and guess what? He was a Miami Dolphins
29:34
quarterback. Ryan Fitzpatrick, I think at one
29:37
point was a Miami Dolphins quarterback.
29:39
Very briefly with with two of their they kept remember Brian
29:42
Flores kept benching the two of them and they interchanged them
29:45
pretty. And the New York Jets had Ryan
29:47
Fitzpatrick and Ryan Fitzpatrick had one of his best years with
29:50
the New York Jets were Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker.
29:52
We could go on. Now they have Zach Wilson.
29:54
Zach Wilson was one of The Jets draft picks a couple of years
29:58
ago. Top three pick failed as a New
30:00
York Jet. Well, then he went to the
30:02
Broncos for a short stand and now he is the backup quarterback
30:05
for Tua and now quitting yours. So I just there is if you look
30:10
at The Jets and you look at Miami, they're very alike.
30:13
They share different players over the years and they're at
30:17
and and to me, they're they're trying to find lightning in a
30:19
bottle at the quarterback position.
30:21
It just it's not easy to find guys.
30:23
It's not easy to find a starting quarterback.
30:26
It's not easy to find an elite quarterback back in this league.
30:29
And it just, to me, it's an embarrassment to the
30:31
organization to try to reach on this, to try to figure out why
30:35
this organization hasn't made the right choices.
30:38
Why this organization has done stupid things on and off the
30:41
field. Why this organization has
30:44
figured to think that quarterback play is not
30:47
important, and why quarterback play has not been successful in
30:51
Miami. And the only time I can remember
30:54
that they had a quarterback that's competent to make every
30:57
single throw was what, in the 1980s and 90s with Dan Marino.
31:02
And by the way, only played one Super Bowl game and never won a
31:08
Super Bowl. So this is an organization that
31:11
can't get out of the hump, just like the New York Jets.
31:13
As a matter of fact, when we can remember when the this Miami
31:17
Dolphins team actually won a Super Bowl?
31:19
When was the last time they won a Super Bowl?
31:21
73. 1973 and when was the last time The Jets won a Super Bowl?
31:24
19691969 So they're not far fetched, they're not far apart
31:29
from each other and each organization.
31:31
And what a what a Quinky think that they're both in the same
31:34
division and in the same conference failures.
31:37
So I I to me, you know when a Jet fan says, well look at those
31:42
Miami Dolphins fans. Hey, here's another Quinky think
31:45
about both organization. They both wear green.
31:48
They're both we're wear green. The Jets are green and white and
31:54
the dolphins are green, white and orange.
31:58
So it, it, to me, it's just, it's so it's so appealing if
32:04
you're a, if you're a Jets fan and you're a Miami Dolphins fan
32:08
and you're trying to appear to think that both organizations
32:13
know what they're doing. And you realize that both
32:15
organizations, no matter how many wins they bring in every
32:20
single year, no matter how many chances they have to make the
32:22
playoffs or how many quarterbacks they share, they
32:26
never get over the hump. Yeah, and there was a stat to
32:29
like tracking. Like how many coaches a lot of
32:31
these dysfunctional teams have hired in the 21st century?
32:34
I think the Raiders were first in that department.
32:36
Washington was second, and then The Jets were up there too.
32:38
Miami, I think was top three in terms of different starting
32:41
quarterbacks since Marino retired, all way behind
32:44
Washington as well. And we interviewed one of them a
32:46
while back and Jay Fiedler, and there was a bunch of others
32:48
after that. You mentioned Chad Pennington,
32:50
and it seems like they're just either settling for veterans or
32:52
they just have a couple random good years like Ryan Tannehill.
32:55
Ryan Tannehill, when Adam Gase was the first hired there in
32:57
2016, had a good year, but it wasn't last thing after that.
33:00
Then he rebirth himself with the Titans and then all of a sudden
33:02
now you look at 22 very good years in 2022 and 2023, but
33:07
really hasn't found that kind of form again.
33:09
And with that contract now, can you trust it where they can hold
33:13
on to it and be able to find that contract to get that level
33:16
going? Because their defense is very
33:18
far behind right now. So they're going to, if they're
33:20
going to get anywhere successfully.
33:21
Why is that? That's why I agree with you.
33:22
They should keep McDaniel. No matter if they hire, they're
33:25
going to hire a new GM. They already fired their GM,
33:27
which I think was the big reason their organization never grow.
33:29
They can't draft offensive line, they can't draft defense, and
33:32
they were able to build around their great offensive skill
33:34
players that they have. And they're kind of just stuck
33:36
in the middle. They're not terribly run like
33:38
the Browns or the Raiders or a team like that that's three and
33:40
14 every year, but they're still kind of stuck in mediocrity and
33:43
they have the longest drought right now of winning a playoff
33:46
game. And it worries you.
33:47
It worries you if if if you're a Miami Dolphins fan.
33:51
Because again, going back in the past and now looking towards the
33:54
future, is there a future for this organization until they
33:57
figure out who their quarterbacks going to be for the
34:00
next 10 years? And, and we can go on and on and
34:03
on of teams. Look at the Giants.
34:05
Look what the Giants are dealing with right now.
34:08
Just think about it. Look how many quarterbacks.
34:10
Look how many coaches, look how many GM's they have gone through
34:12
in the last 15 years since Tom Coughlin has been gone.
34:17
And they had one of the greatest coaches of New York Giants
34:20
history and one of the greatest quarterbacks in a big game gone.
34:25
And I remember when Giant fan said good riddance to Eli
34:29
Manning, good riddance to Tom Coughlin.
34:33
And now you realize there's excuses now for all the Giants
34:36
organic. You know all the Giant fans on
34:39
why the Giants shouldn't have parted ways with Tom Kaufman.
34:42
Why did the Giants decide to part ways with Eli?
34:46
And Eli might have played an extra two or three more years if
34:49
the Giants didn't screw that up and Ben McAdoo decide to start
34:53
Geno Smith over him. It pissed Eli off and it made
34:56
Eli realize that the time was almost gone for him and Eli
35:01
could have went to another organization he didn't want to
35:03
his family. He grew his family in New
35:06
Jersey. His whole life was in New
35:08
Jersey. He was never going to play for
35:09
another organization. It took a lot for Peyton Manning
35:12
to jump from Indianapolis to Denver and the only reason why
35:16
he did that was John Elway. Him and John Elway had a great
35:19
relationship and he and and Peyton Manning believed that he
35:23
had a couple more years left to win another championship and to
35:26
be an elite quarterback in the league.
35:28
And he was at that time and people forget the steroid thing
35:32
came out that he was doing, you know, some kind of advanced
35:37
drugs that to help him get healthy and help his neck.
35:40
What did they, they, they enhanced drug, I don't know if
35:43
it was, I don't know what it was, but it wasn't, it wasn't
35:46
steroids, but I guess it was HGH.
35:48
And that was a story and people forgot about that because it's
35:52
Peyton Manning. But nobody, nobody brings up
35:54
that Peyton Manning was doing human growth hormones, No, that
35:58
he was cheating. No, they all did that after he
36:00
retired. Because no, they don't even talk
36:03
about it anymore. People don't even mention that
36:06
Peyton Manning was on steroids or whatever.
36:09
HDHI guess it's a human growth homework.
36:11
So it is cheating in their own way.
36:16
But I, I think that when you look at The Jets and you look at
36:19
Miami, it's they've always made the wrong mistakes.
36:23
They bring in these veteran guys and these veteran guys are not
36:27
the same players they were when they were playing as a young
36:31
player with the other organizations that drafted them.
36:34
Miami's done it many, many times too.
36:36
You go back and you look at some of the veteran players they
36:39
brought in year in and year out. It's it's failed if they've been
36:42
a failure. So what I would say in the
36:45
offseason is you wait until June 1st, you let to a go and then
36:50
you decide do you draft this year?
36:52
Do you wait until next year where you have Arch Manning, you
36:54
have a better class of quarterback cello be in next
36:57
year's class where you wait until next year.
37:00
You're not going to be an elite team.
37:01
Maybe McDaniel, you give McDaniel one more year to do to
37:05
do something with nothing. And if you can win six or seven
37:08
games, you keep McDaniel, let McDaniel draft his quarterback
37:11
next year. And you ride, ride or die with
37:13
McDaniel because you don't want to keep firing coaches and
37:16
bringing in new coaches. It never works.
37:19
Look at all these other teams that were winning organizations.
37:22
Tomlin, could you imagine what the Steelers are going to have
37:24
to deal with in the future if Mike Tomlin and the Steelers
37:27
decide to part ways in the offseason?
37:30
They've had the same coaches for like 30 something years and now
37:34
you part ways with Tomlin, Coward's gone and then they
37:38
bring in another guy and this is this is the same thing that
37:41
happened to the Giants. They had Bill Parcells and they
37:43
had Tom Coughlin. After that, everything was just
37:46
like it backfired at the the Giants organization.
37:49
You bring in Ben McAdoo to be his offensive coordinator.
37:51
Tom Coughlin didn't want him there.
37:53
Ben McAdoo took over for the team, had one Goodyear.
37:55
He was fired after that and and so on and so on and so on.
38:00
You do not want to continuously keep doing this to an
38:03
organization that has been an absolute failure.
38:06
So I if, if I'm a Dolphins fan, I'm figuring out what this team
38:12
is doing and how this team is going to move, mute how this
38:16
team is going to move towards their future and make better
38:20
decisions that they haven't made over the last 25 years since Dan
38:26
Marino's been gone. After getting blasted by 45
38:30
points last weekend by A7 in 18 Brooklyn Nets, the Milwaukee
38:35
Bucks fell to 11 and 16 on the season.
38:39
With Giannis on the mend from a calf injury, the Bucks seemingly
38:46
are falling out of contention even in a week Eastern
38:51
Conference as the former MVP recovers.
38:55
Despite, yes, the poor performance, head coach Doc
38:59
Rivers said that the Bucks don't need to make serious changes
39:04
despite their struggles. Doc added that the Bucks problem
39:08
simply is a lack of execution, not no effort.
39:14
Despite the effort, the Bucks have gone 2 and 8 without
39:18
Giannis and haven't won a back-to-back game since late
39:23
October. After starting four and one on
39:26
the year, they have gone 7 and 15.
39:30
Yannis met with his agent on December 3rd on the direction of
39:36
his future and a big decision on what Yannis wants for his long
39:41
term future is expected to come in the next few weeks.
39:45
Rumor about Yannis next destination already in full
39:51
swing with teams like the Knicks, the Spurs, the Heat and
39:55
most of the rest of the league including the 24 and two OKC
40:00
Thunder who are loaded with assets to make what is sure to
40:05
be the trade of the year in the NBA.
40:10
Giannis is one of the best players still in the league.
40:12
Now I do believe Giannis went down the way he did and I don't
40:17
believe his injury was that big. I I don't think his injury was
40:21
that bad. Giannis decide what are what are
40:25
huge. What a huge thing when you see
40:27
what happens you're you're talking about weeks before you
40:31
were talking about Giannis not being happy.
40:33
He didn't like the way the team was moving in the proper
40:37
direction. They have no future.
40:39
They have nothing. And you hear weeks before that
40:42
the new New York Knicks, after the Knicks played them, that the
40:45
story was not true, that he wanted to be traded to the
40:47
Knicks. And then what was it, 48 or 72
40:52
hours? Giannis goes down and then they
40:58
say Giannis is out for three to four weeks.
40:59
And we've seen this before. This isn't the first time an NBA
41:02
team and an NBA player goes down and then weeks after he comes
41:06
back, he's traded. We've seen this.
41:08
And one of the main reasons why, and I'm not saying his agent
41:11
decided to do that or his family told him to go and pretend that
41:14
he was hurt. But you also don't want the guy
41:17
to go down with a major injury where you can't trade him.
41:20
You can't get as many assets as you possibly can when he's 100%
41:24
healthy. So I don't know if Milwaukee
41:28
planned this and told Jonas to go down.
41:30
And I'm not saying this is like, you know, a Twilight Zone.
41:35
And I'm trying to figure out a way to observe why this
41:38
happened. What I will say is an
41:42
organization that needs assets, an organization that has no
41:45
assets, and an organization that's made a lot of mistakes.
41:48
As a matter of fact, if you remember a couple of years ago,
41:51
they had a winning record and they decided to fire a coach who
41:55
had a winning record to bring in Doc Rivers because they thought
41:57
that Doc Rivers would help them get over the hump and help them
42:01
maybe win another championship when they never, this should
42:04
have decided to to part ways with Budenholzer.
42:07
Budenholzer was one of the best coaches in the NBA, one of the
42:12
best defensive minded coaches in the NBA, a Gregg Popovich backup
42:16
assistant coach for many, many years.
42:18
And if you look at the success rate of all these Gregg Popovich
42:24
disciples, every single guy, Steve Kerr, Mike Brown, you talk
42:29
about Budenholzer, every single one of these guys were pretty
42:32
successful after leaving Popovich's bench and gone on to
42:37
be a head coach in the NBA. As a matter of fact, another
42:41
guy, Spoelstra, was another Popovich guy.
42:44
So you sit back and you're you're wondering, you look at
42:48
the the opportunity that the Bucks have had over the couple
42:52
of years to find somebody to play with him or find a couple
42:55
of players that would fit in the roster and and work well with
43:01
Giannis offensively and defensively have fallen apart.
43:04
Dame did not work out. Dame tears his Achilles, Even if
43:08
Dame never teared his Achilles, do does anybody believe that
43:11
Dame was the missing piece to win a championship?
43:15
Dame never won, I remember. I don't know if you think Dane
43:18
went past the first round of the playoffs.
43:20
Maybe one time. One year they went to the
43:22
Western Conference finals. That was.
43:24
I don't even remember. They but they won a really weird
43:27
ugly for overtime game seven in 2019 against the Nuggets, but
43:31
then they got swept by the Warriors after that and then the
43:33
Warriors ended up getting injured and losing to the
43:35
Toronto Raptors in the NBA Finals.
43:37
It just, to me, it's an organization, it's made a
43:40
tremendous amount of mistakes. They're honestly, well, they're
43:44
not the Miami Dolphins of the NBA, but.
43:46
I won't go that far. Yet no, but they are.
43:48
There are team that has won a championship but they should
43:51
have mown both. They should have won multiple
43:53
championships. And when you're #2 guy is Powell
43:57
or Portis or whoever they have on their roster and you're
44:00
reaching, you have to understand that the GM obviously doesn't
44:04
know what he's doing. And maybe Doc Rivers is in
44:07
another hemisphere. He's he's playing, he's playing
44:10
basketball on planet Uranus or Mercury or Mars.
44:15
Because anybody, including Doc Rivers, that has come out and
44:18
said that they don't need anything else to win, that they
44:22
just need a healthy Giannis and they just need to it's a lacks
44:25
of lack of execution. And you watch basketball and you
44:29
think that Doc Rivers knows anything about basketball.
44:32
After he comes out and says that, you wonder if Doc Rivers
44:35
should be sent to a, you know, a nursing home because he's
44:39
absolutely crazy. If there is no way in hell that
44:44
Doc Rivers actually believes that this team with Giannis
44:49
could make a run for a playoff or even make a run for a
44:52
championship, there's no possible way with the roster
44:55
they have and the way the roster is set up and you could see what
44:59
their record is with him and without him.
45:02
They're not good. When you lose against 45 points
45:05
against the Brooklyn Nets, there's a problem.
45:08
The Brooklyn Nets are a bad organization.
45:10
They're a bad team. They're not very good.
45:13
And to sit here and try to make excuses for an organization that
45:16
has done some things good over the years and has had a fairly
45:22
good ownership there, but the ownership has slowly but surely
45:28
fallen flat on their face. What did they do in the
45:30
offseason? I know what they did.
45:31
They decided to bring in Giannis's two brothers and maybe
45:34
hired his mother as the equipment manager.
45:37
I mean, honestly, that doesn't make any sense in anybody
45:39
sitting here today. To believe that that was going
45:42
to change the factors of an organization that's falling flat
45:46
on their face is a joke. And I do believe that New York
45:49
Knicks story was absolutely true.
45:51
But the Knicks were not willing to trade Karl Anthony Towns at
45:54
the time. And I don't know if the Knicks
45:56
are going to be willing to trade Karl Anthony Towns the way the
45:58
Knicks are playing under Mike Brown with the talent that they
46:01
have around the players that they have.
46:03
So now you wonder if Giannis is going to go somewhere where he
46:07
doesn't want to go. And everybody keeps talking
46:08
about OKC. Why would OKC decide to trade
46:12
away assets when they're 24 and 2 right now?
46:15
There's still one of the elite teams in the league.
46:17
They're still going to get a top ten pick because you have the
46:19
Clippers draft pick. How many wins do they have?
46:22
6? I mean, they could have a
46:24
lottery pick in the top five this year.
46:26
And by the way, it's not protected, it's unprotected.
46:31
So they can actually win the draft this year with the talent
46:35
that they have right now. So why would an organization
46:40
that just won a championship have one of the best offensive
46:43
players in the league, one of the best defenses in the league,
46:45
one of the best young coaches in the league, and one of the more
46:48
team, one of the best teams when it comes to depth and benches in
46:52
all of the NBA decide, hey, you know what?
46:55
We're just going to trade away assets to bring Giannis in
46:57
because we have a better chance to win.
46:59
They have a good chance to win this year.
47:01
Without Giannis. Why would they make that move?
47:03
There are only two teams besides the Knicks that I could see that
47:06
even happening to, and not even the Spurs.
47:09
I could see the Heat and I could see the Lakers.
47:11
The Lakers don't have the assets, so it might not be the
47:15
Lakers, it would be the Heat. And the Heat makes a lot of
47:19
sense. But if the Heat decides to move
47:22
and make a move for a guy like Giannis, they're going to have
47:25
to trade Tyler Hero. They're going to have to trade
47:27
Bam out of Bio. So there Giannis is going to a
47:30
team that stinks anyways, so it doesn't make any sense why he
47:34
would be moving to the Heat. The only team that makes a lot
47:37
of sense is the Knicks. The Knicks have assets.
47:41
The Knicks have, they have a bench, they have a coach that
47:43
can absolutely move them right in or fit them right into the
47:47
puzzle. And the Knicks automatically are
47:50
still in the elite team in the league if that happens.
47:52
The problem is, are the Knicks in the driver's seat now?
47:55
Well, the Knicks don't have to trade at the assets that
47:58
Milwaukee's going to be asking for because they're the only
48:01
team in the driver's seat to land them.
48:04
So I, I, just, I if you're a Knick fan, you're sitting back
48:10
and you have a smile on your face.
48:12
Why? Because they're in the driver's
48:14
seat. Milwaukee is not in the driver's
48:17
seat. The organization is reaching and
48:20
Giannis has already come out and said that there's only one team
48:24
he wants to play for and that's the next.
48:27
So I mean, what more do the Knicks need to do to just sit
48:31
back and wait until this debacle falls flat on their face?
48:35
And and Doc Rivers is falling, falling flat on his face.
48:39
And he's going to need somebody to mop up the the guck that he's
48:42
going to be spitting on the ground or spitting his gum on
48:46
the ground. And he might need to clean up,
48:48
you know, well, we can reach out to Will Ferrell from Elf and he
48:51
could start picking up the gum under the, you know, the the
48:55
subway or whatever. I mean, if you watch the movie,
48:59
I mean, it's just embarrassing. This is an embarrassing
49:02
organization now. They went from one of the elite
49:04
Eastern Conference team automatically to the one of the
49:07
worst Eastern Conference teams. And they might have a lottery
49:11
pick, but if they keep Giannis, they might fall out of the
49:13
lottery. So they need to move Giannis as
49:16
quick as they possibly can because the more games they win
49:18
with Giannis hurts the facts and the factor of them next year
49:22
getting a lottery pick in this coming draft, which is one of
49:25
the best drafts we've seen seen since 2004, 2005 when Le Bron,
49:29
James, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade came out of
49:32
that draft class. Yeah, it's one of those things
49:34
where the Bucks have to realize that their team just got old all
49:37
at once. They had to make a desperation
49:38
move after trading Chris Middle and Drew Holiday.
49:41
Obviously they they waved him in the Damian Lillard trade.
49:43
And then all of a sudden now you had to go sign Miles Turner as
49:47
you're like big free agent move to give any kind of a supporting
49:50
cast to Giannis. And now you're dealing with a
49:53
case of the Bucks started hot because they over performed with
49:56
a bunch of random rookies that happen to work.
49:58
But it wasn't going to last. These were second round and
50:00
undrafted rookies playing in a system with a lot of veterans.
50:03
It wasn't going to last. And now you look at them playing
50:06
against all these weak opponents that they can't even be losing
50:09
by 45 points to the Brooklyn Nets.
50:10
The Brooklyn Nets were the last NBA team to win a game this year
50:14
and you lost by 45 points to that team A-Team that's been
50:17
rebuilding for the last three years since they traded away
50:20
Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant and the Wizards.
50:23
They've been dysfunctional for seven years now.
50:24
The Hornets, forget it. I mean, the last time they were
50:26
good was probably the late 90s, and even then they weren't.
50:29
They were like a second tier team at best.
50:31
And the Pelicans, like these are all dysfunctional teams now.
50:34
I agree that the Bucks are not becoming that level of
50:36
dysfunctional yet, but at the same time they're on the
50:40
downturn because they can't get young players to develop around
50:44
Yanis. They've haven't had a bench for
50:45
a while. Brooke Lopez was probably the
50:47
other big man that could be good now he's gone that just
50:49
essentially replaced him with Turner, Doc Rivers.
50:52
And this organization has to realize that they waited too
50:54
long to make that kind of thing happen where either they built
50:58
around Giannis with somebody younger, or they had to move off
51:02
of Damian Lillard and Chris Middleton and guys like that
51:04
faster than they did. And it just didn't work.
51:06
And now they're stuck in a very weird spot.
51:08
And I agree with you. The Knicks are the only team
51:10
really right now in strong play for Giannis.
51:13
Because the other team I was thinking besides, OK, C was
51:15
probably the Pistons, but same kind of thing.
51:17
Why would they want to break up their young core where they're
51:19
21 and six or something like that?
51:21
OK, so he's 24 and 2. They're not going to want to do
51:23
that. Yeah, the Spurs are definitely
51:25
in that mix as well. And Miami, they don't have the
51:27
assets. So they have to really wait for
51:29
like the either the Bucks to like screw the Knicks or
51:32
something with their GM pull off a Danny Ainge to just hate the
51:34
Knicks. Why?
51:35
First of all, Danny Ainge is not part of the Bucks organization
51:39
Their. GM is the equivalent.
51:41
They're part of the Utah organization, and the Knicks are
51:43
in the driver's seat because are the Knicks willing to trade off
51:46
any assets to lane Giannis? The Knicks don't need GNIS could
51:52
win without them. They're proving it right now.
51:54
They're in second place. They're 2 1/2 games behind
51:56
Detroit. Detroit will eventually get into
51:58
assault. The Knicks are going to run away
52:00
with the Eastern Conference. Right now, the only team I think
52:03
is a threat is Jaylen Brown and and maybe the Spider if the
52:07
Cavaliers figure things out because they've been up and down
52:10
really early this season. So we don't know what they are
52:13
and I can't I I still think Kenny Atkinson is one of the
52:16
best coaches in the NBA. He's a Long Island native.
52:19
So I root Kenny Atkinson on all the time.
52:21
I don't think the Knicks have to worry about it.
52:23
They're in the driver seat. All they got to do is keep
52:26
hitting the gas and accelerate and wait until Yannis or wait
52:31
until the organization in Milwaukee.
52:33
Say what? We'll just take whatever you
52:36
have. Give us whatever.
52:37
What's the best package you can give us?
52:39
We'll take it. And and I think the Knicks are
52:42
going to be in that driver's seat because there's nobody else
52:44
besides OK C that will be willing to trade away top notch
52:49
players to land a guy like Giannis who only has one more
52:53
year left on his contract. He's 32 years old and he wants
52:57
to win now. So, and I know everybody keeps
53:00
saying, well, what about Detroit?
53:02
Detroit. Giannis don't want to go to
53:03
Detroit. People get lost in Detroit.
53:07
He wants to go to a big city. It makes the only time it makes
53:10
sense. Besides the besides the big ones
53:13
like Texas, maybe Miami, New York, LA, in Boston, the only
53:20
way he gets traded to a small city.
53:24
It's OK C he's not going to want to go to these other
53:27
organizations like Utah. You think he wants to go to Utah
53:30
and play over there for Danny Ainge because you know Danny
53:34
Ainge is going to rob Milwaukee. That's not going to happen.
53:37
And maybe the Clippers, what do the Clippers have?
53:39
They got nothing. They traded Alexander for Paul
53:42
George. Congratulations to the Clipper
53:45
organization. Kawhi Leonard doesn't want to be
53:47
there anymore. He's getting paid on to the
53:48
table. There is nowhere else.
53:51
This man now Orlando makes sense.
53:53
Orlando is a nice city. It's a growing city.
53:57
They're just a young team. And even with Giannis, are they
54:00
going to have enough? And they're going to have to
54:01
trade pieces, maybe two or three of their best players to land a
54:05
Giannis. And you don't even want to play
54:06
in Orlando. It's not a big basketball city.
54:09
It really isn't. I, I understand that they're
54:12
growing over there and I, I'm sorry, Nick, as much as I love
54:15
you good, Mr. Goodwood, I know you'll love your Orlando Magic,
54:18
but this is a team that has made the playoffs what, one time in
54:23
the last five years? They're not an organization that
54:26
makes the playoffs consistently and until they're consistently
54:29
do that, they're not going to be a place where everybody wants to
54:32
go. When Dwight Howard was there and
54:35
Jameer Nelson was playing at the top of his game as a young point
54:38
guard, maybe then was a time, time where everybody wanted to
54:42
go and play with Dwight Howard and Jimmy or Nelson.
54:44
Not anymore. This is not the same Orlando
54:46
Magic team. This is not the Orlando Magic
54:48
that went to a Finals and made a run against Dwyane Wade and
54:52
Chris Bosh and LeBron James and the Heat.
54:55
This is not the same Orlando Magic.
54:58
These are facts, guys. And the fact that Doc Rivers
55:02
came out and said they don't need anything.
55:04
They don't need any maintenance on this team.
55:06
It just tells me you ever go to you ever go to a supermarket and
55:11
something spills and somebody gets on the loudspeaker and says
55:15
aisle 5 can filter fish, can filter fish is on the floor, can
55:19
filter fish. People are going to slip can
55:22
filter fish or aisle 5, there's some soda on the ground, pick up
55:26
or whatever mess on aisle 5I. I mean, that's where it is right
55:31
now. There's a mess on every single
55:33
aisle and they're just hoping that they go down the right
55:36
aisle and they can before they, they slip on something, they can
55:39
get out of the aisle before they fall flat on their face.
55:42
And right now this is an organization and I, I'm trying
55:45
to find an Allen analogy on the fly to kind of consider or kind
55:49
of bring to everybody's attention on how I feel about
55:52
the Milwaukee Bucks. And the only thing that I can
55:55
consider and believe Milwaukee is as an organization is an
55:59
organization that needs to understand that if you don't
56:04
have a superstar that is happy, you need to do what's right to
56:09
the superstar. Because if you don't, the
56:11
superstar is going to hold your organization up for ransom and
56:15
you're not going to get anything back for that superstar.
56:18
We've seen it in the NBA. The NBA is the only sport where
56:21
the players run the league. It's a fact, guys.
56:25
It's a fact. Since LeBron James, the players
56:28
have run the league. LeBron does whatever he wants.
56:31
He says whatever he wants. Kyrie Irving has said
56:34
anti-Semitic things. The league made him apologize
56:38
and then he went to Dallas. He was traded to Dallas by the
56:42
Brooklyn Nets and then went up there after the fact and said,
56:45
you know what? I'm taking back my apology.
56:47
Why am I going to apologize for something I believe?
56:50
Did you say Cuban is a Jewish owner?
56:52
I mean, it's ridiculous. It's just ridiculous.
56:55
And, and the fact here is the NBA has always been an
57:00
organization that has done right for the league.
57:04
Now that you have Adam Silver there and David Stern is no
57:06
longer there, may rest in peace is gone.
57:09
And I know we we, we had Tim Donaghy on the show and he said
57:12
screw, screw him. Screw Stern.
57:15
He was a terrible commissioner. But let's be honest,
57:20
Commissioner Stearns did not allow some of this craziness
57:24
that's happening or happened on and off the foot basketball
57:28
field when a basketball court when he was there as the
57:31
commissioner of the league. Ever since Adam Silver has taken
57:34
over, he's let these players take and made optional excuses
57:39
for the players to do whatever they wanted and have pretty much
57:43
pushed out owners. Now I'm not saying the owners
57:46
were right for what they did. The anti-Semitic attacks and
57:50
some of the things that came out of these owners should they
57:52
should have been, I wouldn't say pushed out, put up should have
57:55
been fined and something should have been done with the
57:58
organization. And maybe like George
58:01
Steinbrenner, he was pushed out of ownership for two years with
58:04
the Yankees. Remember that.
58:06
He was gone from the Yankees for two years and he had to bring
58:09
somebody in to run the organization, the with the
58:12
players and the way the players run the league, The players told
58:17
the commissioner that we are not playing unless this guy, you
58:20
know, you push this guy out of ownership.
58:23
And that's why the Clippers did it.
58:24
And that's why, if I'm not mistaken, the Phoenix Suns did
58:27
the same thing. So the players have run the
58:31
league and have let really the league be run by the faces of
58:36
the organization, the Chris Paul's of the world, the Carmelo
58:39
Anthonys, the Dwyane Wade, the LeBron James's.
58:41
And now we're starting to see the transition of why the league
58:46
and the NBA is so big internationally and why it's
58:49
only going to grow internationally because the
58:52
league is allowing the players to do what they want.
58:54
I've mentioned too that I think it's a lot of the LeBron
58:57
generation that's causing a lot of this dramatic behavior.
58:59
I would say probably besides Joel Embiid and maybe Anthony
59:02
Edwards in this, I guess younger generation guys that were
59:05
drafted in the last 10 years or so, you're not seeing it as much
59:08
with that. Luka Doncic, a good example of
59:10
that was surprised he got traded.
59:11
Obviously the world was surprised that Nico Harrison did
59:14
the dumb ass stuff that he did and he traded in the Lakers for
59:17
practically nothing. And if it wasn't for maybe that
59:20
shy and that that trade with the Clippers of the Thunder is the
59:23
worst trade in NBA history, Those are probably the two when
59:25
you look at it. And if you look at somebody like
59:27
Giannis, Giannis is not directly trying to antagonize the Bucks
59:31
and saying, oh, trade me now or or else type thing.
59:34
But there's inadvertent signs meeting with his agent already.
59:38
He mentioned the Knicks. If I want to be traded, I was a
59:41
good servicer there. I want to expand my legacy in
59:43
New York. He definitely mentioned that in
59:45
the offseason for a reason. And I think he's doing it in a
59:49
way where it's still helping Milwaukee make that kind of
59:53
decision. The problem is Milwaukee and
59:54
somebody like Doc Rivers, who's old school is reluctance to say,
59:57
all right, maybe I haven't done enough for this organization to
1:00:00
compete to this team because you're right.
1:00:01
Adrian Griffin was 30 and 10, the number two seed in the in
1:00:04
the Eastern Conference only to the Celtics when they fired him
1:00:06
back in 2023. And you're right, the decision
1:00:09
to fire Budenholzer, I wasn't wouldn't have done that either.
1:00:11
It seemed like Budenholzer and Giannis maybe fell off at the
1:00:13
end of his tenure there. And now you're stuck with Doc
1:00:17
Rivers, who doesn't get along with Giannis either.
1:00:19
And any of these players just stuck in an old school
1:00:21
mentality? For a team that's not very good,
1:00:24
A-Team, that's not very deep and has no sense of direction,
1:00:27
they're kind of like the Suns in the Eastern Conference, maybe a
1:00:30
little better, but not by much. And you don't want to be that
1:00:33
type of directionless team because that only helps the
1:00:36
Knicks, Thunder, all these other teams that have assets say we're
1:00:39
going to play hardball on you. And I mentioned this last week
1:00:42
when we did the weekend Crunch, Leon Rose is waiting patiently
1:00:46
to not have to trade Karl Anthony Towns to do this.
1:00:48
The longer this goes on towards the trade deadline, that's all
1:00:52
the Leon Rose in this New York Knicks organization needs
1:00:54
because they have the guys to trade on the roster and even the
1:00:57
young guys that they could definitely make that.
1:00:58
Trade. The Knicks are in the driver's
1:01:00
seat right now and they're just waiting to erupt.
1:01:03
They're waiting. They're waiting to reach out or
1:01:05
waiting for the organization, the organization to reach out to
1:01:09
the Knicks and say, listen, we'll take whatever you have.
1:01:11
What do you, what do you have? What are you giving us?
1:01:14
What could you give us to get this deal done?
1:01:17
And the Knicks are going to do whatever is popular for the fan
1:01:20
and whatever is popular to the organization that makes it work,
1:01:23
where they can keep the the players that they need to get
1:01:26
over the hump and and be the favorites of coming out of the
1:01:29
Eastern Conference this year. Because it's all about winning a
1:01:31
championship with the Knicks. And no matter what the Knicks
1:01:34
want to win this championship, they haven't won one since 1973.
1:01:38
The team has gotten close in 2000.
1:01:41
They've gotten close last year in an Eastern Conference finals.
1:01:44
I don't know if the Knicks beat OK CI, don't know if they make
1:01:47
they give it a challenge like Hal Burton and Indianapolis.
1:01:50
And maybe if Hal Burton didn't go down in game #7 Indianapolis
1:01:55
is the NBA championship champions right now.
1:01:57
The run that Indiana went, what they did last year was pretty
1:02:01
amazing. And and to me, OK, C is going to
1:02:05
be the team that everybody is going to be catching up to for
1:02:09
the next 10 years because of the assets they have and the young
1:02:12
players that they have right now with the organization.
1:02:15
And they're only going to get better.
1:02:16
And the Knicks, they're ready to win now.
1:02:19
They have Jalen Bronson, who's 30 years old that just signed a
1:02:22
four year or three-year extension.
1:02:24
They have Josh Hart has another year left on as a contract.
1:02:27
You have all these players right now that are ready and under
1:02:31
contract now to make that run. How many years left do they have
1:02:35
that they can keep these players in New York at the contracts
1:02:39
that they have them where they can they can win a championship
1:02:42
with this this type of roster and it's not many years left.
1:02:46
I think they have two more years or actually one more year left
1:02:49
from this year where he can or the Knicks, Leon Rose can keep
1:02:52
this team together and make that run for NBA championship.
1:02:56
So, you know, they talk about windows in the NBA windows.
1:02:59
It's usually A5 year window for the NBA, five years.
1:03:03
Any more than five years, you're a dynasty.
1:03:07
And that's why you look at Golden State and what they've
1:03:09
done. It's pretty amazing.
1:03:10
I give Golden State a little bit of credit.
1:03:12
I'm not going to sit here and just beat around the Bush.
1:03:14
They're a great team and I I don't need you giggling, Speedy.
1:03:16
It's true. I'm not giving, I'm not going to
1:03:18
attack Steph Curry or an organization that has found ways
1:03:22
to win. It's not easy to win that NBA
1:03:24
championships. But when you look at Kevin
1:03:26
Durant going over there and making a power four and, and
1:03:29
we've seen other teams like the Chicago Bulls do it with
1:03:33
drafting players and only bringing in Dennis Rodman and
1:03:36
doing what Michael joining Scottie Pippen and all the other
1:03:39
after sore after four players, they brought in Derek, I'm
1:03:42
sorry, not Derek Harper, Ron Harper, Ron Harper.
1:03:46
And they had players that they've they, they drafted BJ
1:03:49
Armstrong was there for a couple of champions.
1:03:52
Horace Grant was there for a championship or two and then
1:03:55
they had Tony KU coach. But they built around the draft
1:03:58
and that's how it worked in the NBA at the time.
1:04:01
You had to build around 2 superstars.
1:04:03
Now you need multiple players, great bench and maybe I would
1:04:08
say multiple superstars or stars and maybe 2 superstars to get
1:04:14
over the hump. And and again, the Knicks have
1:04:16
done the right thing with Leon Rose and hopefully no matter
1:04:20
what they do with Giannis, what they do with Giannis fans, they
1:04:24
don't make the wrong decision and decide to not make a run at
1:04:30
Giannis because they think this team in this roster is good
1:04:32
enough to win. When you have a chance to go
1:04:34
after a superstar this good, a top five player that can change
1:04:38
everything for your organization, especially making
1:04:41
a run for an NBA championship because this this is a player
1:04:45
that's still one of the elite players in the league.
1:04:46
So. Before we move on to do this
1:04:48
today, I just want to mention like you look at the models that
1:04:50
you try to build with the with the championship team.
1:04:52
Now the Thunder had it would did it with a lot of trades.
1:04:54
Obviously the stockpiling of the draft picks, the Celtics have
1:04:58
done a kind of homegrown. They stockpiled draft picks who
1:04:59
obviously the Billy King trade, but they kind of did it in a
1:05:02
different way where they were drafting some really good
1:05:04
college players. And then they just carried over
1:05:06
changing from Brad Stevens coaching scheme now to Missoula
1:05:09
and they made that kind of thing work.
1:05:10
And the Knicks have done it with trades of their young players
1:05:13
and getting those players still in their prime at a good value
1:05:17
and really good discount contracts.
1:05:19
As a result. Leon Rose is great in
1:05:20
manipulating the cap and it's a big reason why the Knicks, in
1:05:23
addition to building a team now that has some size and some
1:05:25
flash, have now of the depth and that's where they have all the
1:05:28
assets to make it work where Giannis can be.
1:05:31
There could be like 6 different things you could possibly trade
1:05:33
for Giannis if you're the Knicks right now.
1:05:34
It's crazy. I will say this for all the
1:05:36
fans, my Vertigo is now gone. It's finally gone.
1:05:41
It's been around really the whole show and I've been here
1:05:44
and seeing glows in my right eye.
1:05:45
It is fully gone. So I feel good.
1:05:49
But ladies and gentlemen, I have my deuce of the day, the deuce
1:05:53
of the day. You'll log not a log.
1:05:55
I don't have a log, but I. Ladies and gentlemen, my deuce
1:06:06
of the day goes to Puka Nakua brother who was arrested for
1:06:10
allegedly stealing Lakers players car.
1:06:13
Yes, here it is ladies and gentlemen.
1:06:15
Older brother of Los Angeles Rams wide receiver Puka Nakua is
1:06:19
in the hot, well, in a hot seat and has a lot of of explaining
1:06:23
to do after being arrested over the weekend.
1:06:26
Samson Nukua was reportedly busted after stealing a car that
1:06:31
belonged to Lakers rookie Adu Tiero, according to NBC 4 Los
1:06:36
Angeles News. I will say this, I I Puka Nukua
1:06:41
is a superstar. He's one of the best players
1:06:43
right now at his position in all of the NFL.
1:06:46
And I know it's a story when you hear somebody's brother doing
1:06:49
something stupid on and off a basketball, football, hockey,
1:06:53
ice, whatever, any kind of field.
1:06:55
But when you hear a story like this, you have to laugh.
1:06:57
And I, I don't know, Puka Nakua is made himself a lot of money,
1:07:01
is going to make himself a lot of money for his future.
1:07:04
But really, does this really matter?
1:07:06
I, I, does it really matter? Puka Nakua's brother means
1:07:10
absolutely nothing to Puka Nakua's career.
1:07:12
But it's a story because the NFL, there's really nothing
1:07:15
going on except the the Joe Burrow situation or, you know,
1:07:19
there's three weeks left of the NFL season.
1:07:21
We're talking about who wins the Heisman a couple of weeks ago.
1:07:24
So what we we we all know what happened with the Moore
1:07:27
situation and that. So the NFL needs to find a story
1:07:31
to kind of wrap your head around it.
1:07:33
And and you hear Pukanukua's brother getting arrested because
1:07:37
he's stealing in an an NBA players car.
1:07:41
And it's not like it's Luka Dodgic.
1:07:42
It's not like it's LeBron James or Reeves.
1:07:45
No, it's a guy that I've never even heard of a rookie that it
1:07:48
really is not even in the lineup half the time for the Lakers.
1:07:52
So my juice of the day goes to just an outrageous story that
1:07:57
means absolutely nothing where the media is trying to find
1:08:00
something that you know, you have Nukua playing tonight on
1:08:03
Thursday Night Football. Do you really want me to talk
1:08:06
about Puka Nukua? How about Puka Nukua scoring?
1:08:10
Did he just score right now? Did he have a touchdown?
1:08:12
No. But I, the Rams just put no.
1:08:15
It was something happened. It was a but it was a penalty.
1:08:17
But Bukanuku is one of the best, one of the most elite offensive
1:08:21
players in the league. I could give a crap about what
1:08:24
his brother is doing and how many cars this man is stealing.
1:08:28
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We are now talking to MLB.com Yankees beat reporter and author
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of 62 Mr. Brian Hoke. Brian, what's up, bud?
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I'm waiting for my jerky bee Hoke.
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It's kind of Santa Claus is bringing it to town.
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It's coming, I promise. Yeah.
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Yeah, wow, Jabba, I got to say you you joined the club here,
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huh? And you know what?
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You can only pause the 3rd so much B.
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You know what I'm saying? And it's why why didn't you tell
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me to join it earlier? Because it's so much easier.
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Oh yeah, you don't even have to worry about anything anymore.
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It's great, it's awesome. It takes 2 minutes, you jump in,
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then you clean the skillet and then you're good.
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I want to get into the Yankees. The Yankees have been the talk
1:10:06
of New York. Well, actually, you haven't been
1:10:08
in. The Mets have been a talk in New
1:10:09
York. The Yankees have been no talk
1:10:11
because the Yankees haven't done anything.
1:10:13
It seems like Cody Bellinger is still a free agent.
1:10:16
The Yankees lost Devin Williams to the Mets.
1:10:19
The Yankees are still still trying to figure out who their
1:10:21
closer is going to be. Are they going to add a Japanese
1:10:24
pitcher? Are they going to go after
1:10:26
Tucker? Are they going to sign Cody
1:10:28
Bellinger? Are they going to make a trade
1:10:29
for Bryce Harper? I don't know, Brian, what's
1:10:32
going on with the Yankees? Well, I was going to say we
1:10:35
don't have much to talk about, but you just covered plenty
1:10:37
right there. And so, yeah, they haven't done
1:10:39
much from outside. And I don't know where you want
1:10:41
to start here, but let's start with Bellinger.
1:10:44
He's their top priority. They want to bring him back.
1:10:46
There's like 1000 reasons they should bring him back.
1:10:49
And I just feel like they're, they're not going to come in
1:10:52
with the top bid. And when you have Scott Boris as
1:10:55
your your agent, you're going to take every dollar that's on the
1:10:57
table. And so I feel like Bellinger for
1:11:00
the Yankees is a guy they want back.
1:11:02
They should have back. But I feel like, I feel like if
1:11:05
I'm a Yankee fan, I'm preparing right now to watch him go across
1:11:08
town because that seems to be the MO of this offseason.
1:11:11
Is that everybody trades their pinstripes and goes and suits up
1:11:15
for Steve Cohen and puts on some orange and blue.
1:11:18
So you asked me about 1000 more questions.
1:11:21
Let's get to the other ones. No be like for me like going
1:11:27
through these things and seeing kind of what has happened and
1:11:30
what hasn't happened. Do you think the fear of them
1:11:34
not signing a lot of these guys where we thought there would be
1:11:37
some more stuff going? Do you think the fear of a
1:11:40
stoppage is is kind of slowing these guys down or not?
1:11:45
I'm not sure to be honest with you, because you see guys
1:11:47
signing all around the league. So I, I think that there,
1:11:51
there's movement all around the league.
1:11:52
So I, I can't say that it's because of that.
1:11:55
I think that of course we all know that that is a possibility
1:11:59
that's out there. But I feel like if you're a free
1:12:02
agent right now in this market, you want to get paid no, no
1:12:04
matter what's going to happen in 2027.
1:12:06
So these guys are going to have to get their contrast because
1:12:08
they got another year to go between them and they got bills
1:12:10
to pay just like the rest of us. They just happen to be bigger
1:12:13
than the rest of us, right? So there's even more motivation
1:12:16
to go get that money. But you asked about EMI, and I
1:12:19
think that's a really interesting way the Yankees can
1:12:22
go here because if Bellinger signs with the Mets or whoever
1:12:26
tomorrow, I think their move is to pivot to pitching.
1:12:29
I think that this is a team that scored the most runs in a majors
1:12:33
last year. They crush a bunch of home runs.
1:12:35
They would score plenty of runs with or without Bellinger.
1:12:38
You give Jason Dominguez a chance to show what he can do in
1:12:41
left field. And I think where the Yankees
1:12:43
really failed last year, where they fell short, was on the
1:12:46
pitching side. And I think that when you can do
1:12:49
it, you bring in an EMI. Even if you don't, you still
1:12:51
have arguably the best rotation in baseball.
1:12:54
You can bulk up the bullpen, too.
1:12:56
I think that's what the Yankees would do.
1:12:57
They'd have some money to spend if they don't bring back
1:12:59
Bellinger and you bulk up that bullpen.
1:13:01
David Bednar's probably their closer right now, but it's a
1:13:05
little thin behind him. Camille Duvall's kind of a
1:13:07
project. Tim Hill is a nice lefty guy,
1:13:10
but I I think they could bulk that up in the back innings.
1:13:13
What about the trade market for the Yankees?
1:13:14
Because we're we're not going to hearing it as much because of
1:13:16
the Mets versus the Red Sox and all these other teams that have
1:13:18
the bigger prospect pools. But the Yankees, obviously with
1:13:20
the emergence of a lot of the young pitching they had last
1:13:22
year, especially with Schlittler, maybe there's some
1:13:24
leeway to trade one of the other guys in their rotation.
1:13:26
Will Warren maybe even heal in a bigger deal?
1:13:29
What are you hearing from the Yankees trade market
1:13:31
perspective? Yeah, absolutely.
1:13:33
They're getting hits on all those guys.
1:13:34
I don't think Schlitzler is somebody that they're looking to
1:13:36
trade. They possibly could do that in
1:13:39
the right deal. I think Spencer Jones, the guy
1:13:40
they're getting a ton of hits on right now because teams are
1:13:43
trying to figure out with Jason Dominguez as well, too, what we
1:13:47
talked about there. What is their plan with
1:13:49
Dominguez, with Jones? If you do bring back Bellinger,
1:13:51
you can't keep them all. I mean, it does nobody any good
1:13:54
to have Dominguez sitting on the bench for another season, which
1:13:57
is basically what he did in the second-half in last year going
1:14:01
into the playoffs. So there's some questions there
1:14:03
with the Yankees that what exactly are they going to do?
1:14:06
Jazz Chisholm has been hit on in trade talks.
1:14:08
He's in his final year of arbitration.
1:14:11
Do they see him as their second baseman of the future or is he a
1:14:15
guy that they could cash in if they get the right deal coming
1:14:18
their way? And certainly you don't want to
1:14:19
give up on Jazz. He's a 3030 second baseman who
1:14:22
could possibly be 4040 for you if everything breaks right.
1:14:25
But I mean, he's got value. And if they were going to make a
1:14:29
major move with a contending Dean, probably then he would be
1:14:32
one of their biggest chips. So I don't necessarily see that
1:14:35
one happening. But the guys you mentioned,
1:14:37
they're heel Warren Schlittler. If the right move came along, I
1:14:41
think you would think about it you.
1:14:42
Brought up something about Dominguez and Spencer Jones,
1:14:46
right? And I think they're very equal
1:14:49
in what they what they are. But Dominguez, you've seen in
1:14:52
the big leagues, why didn't Spencer Jones get that
1:14:54
opportunity? Because you obviously looked at
1:14:56
like his value of what he was when he got to AAA, right?
1:15:01
And they wanted to move to being as faster.
1:15:04
And we've kind of seen what he's done in the big leagues.
1:15:07
Why do you think that they didn't give Spencer Jones or
1:15:10
bring him up at the end? Because it may have changed.
1:15:13
We've all seen this where sometimes change of scenery
1:15:16
makes it better. And he stayed there being the
1:15:19
Martian and what he is now, if you give Spencer Jones that
1:15:22
chance. So do you think there's do you
1:15:25
think they have value over one or the other?
1:15:29
The only reason I would see it personally is the fact that he's
1:15:32
played in the big leagues and not been what they thought he
1:15:35
was. But you never had an opportunity
1:15:37
to see what Spencer Jones is. Right.
1:15:40
You know, you know, it's funny that Brian Cashman did talk
1:15:42
about that at the winter meetings.
1:15:43
He said they talked about and thought about the idea that
1:15:46
Dominguez wasn't playing and look at how where outfield was
1:15:49
last year, Judge was MVP, Trent Grisham was in the middle of a
1:15:53
career year, Bellinger was doing great in left field.
1:15:55
So there really weren't the at bats there for Dominguez to
1:15:58
really get much playing time. And so they actually did talk
1:16:01
about sending him down and they thought that it wouldn't be fair
1:16:04
to him because it wasn't his fault.
1:16:06
It wasn't like he played his way out of a job.
1:16:08
It was basically they just couldn't justify playing him
1:16:11
over the guys that I just mentioned.
1:16:13
So maybe if the landscapes a little different, they could do
1:16:16
that. And I think that with Jones,
1:16:17
that was the same deal. You weren't going to call him up
1:16:19
just to sit on the bench. I don't have a 40 man roster
1:16:23
expansion. You got 28.
1:16:25
So you really do have to kind of be selective and take the guys
1:16:28
who can help you. And if Jones is going to sit on
1:16:29
the bench all week and get one or two at bats a week and you're
1:16:33
taking away development time from a guy who did make some
1:16:36
strides last year. He cut down on the strikeouts.
1:16:38
The defense is pretty good, but he's still got room to to grow.
1:16:41
And I I won't be shocked if he begins the year in AAA again and
1:16:46
then has to get called up later in the year.
1:16:47
But I also wouldn't rule out the idea that he could make this
1:16:50
team out of spring training because we saw it three years
1:16:53
ago with Anthony Volpe. Nobody gave him a shot to be the
1:16:56
opening day shortstop. And I know that it hasn't worked
1:16:58
out as great as everybody thought it would then.
1:17:00
But he came in, he tore it up in spring training.
1:17:03
He was undeniable and they would have looked ridiculous sending
1:17:06
him down. So I think if Jones has that
1:17:08
kind of spring, he can make this team.
1:17:10
Brian, you you look, you mentioned Anthony Volpe and a
1:17:13
lot of people don't. There's a lot of fans out there
1:17:16
that have gone out going after the Yankees and said move them,
1:17:18
trade him, get rid of them. And I do believe he's still
1:17:21
fairly young. He's 2324 years old, still has a
1:17:24
lot of baseball left. The guy put up some power
1:17:27
numbers. He had over 20 home runs at the
1:17:29
shortstop position. Not many shortstops do that in
1:17:31
the league. I know he's not hitting for
1:17:33
average. I think he I think he was
1:17:35
batting 2O5. He was batting in the ones at
1:17:38
some point this year. He hasn't been good, OK, as far
1:17:41
as offensively and he was one of the worst.
1:17:43
He had one of the worst defensive years we've ever seen
1:17:45
a player have since Chuck Noblock.
1:17:47
OK, He hasn't been good, OK, But I do believe that Anthony Volpe
1:17:52
has a lot of opportunity to to figure things out and still
1:17:57
become the player that the Yankees believed he was going to
1:18:00
be. He was a high draft pick.
1:18:01
He has the ability to be a great an elite defender and he still
1:18:06
has pop in his bat. Do you think the the Yankees are
1:18:09
pushing away or pushing away from him and maybe decide let's
1:18:14
move away from let's trade him, let him, let's send him
1:18:16
somewhere else. And do we go after a guy like
1:18:18
Bichette who has been successful, that has the power
1:18:21
that comes from the pedigree? His father was a sensational
1:18:24
player. Do you think they go after a
1:18:26
superstar like? That nobody said he wants to
1:18:28
move to second base and you're not just, you're not going.
1:18:30
To. Move money.
1:18:31
You're not going to move a 30. You're not going to move a 3030
1:18:33
guy from second base because they tried him at third base.
1:18:36
They're not going to move. They're not going to get a
1:18:37
Bouchette and move Jazz unless they move him.
1:18:40
They're not going to do it. Money talks and and it's all.
1:18:43
About it does, but you're not going to move a 3030 guy unless
1:18:45
you get something. I just believe that when with
1:18:48
the Yankees, they're all about superstars over the years.
1:18:51
Now, I don't know if Hal's thinking that way because he's
1:18:53
not his his father George, but if it was George Steinbrenner, I
1:18:57
could see them going after Bouchette and trying to.
1:18:59
Spin the wheel. But you you hate jazz Chism.
1:19:02
But I don't. They don't like jazz.
1:19:04
Super. Is a superstar in his own right
1:19:06
for what he's done. Bichette has never been Jazz
1:19:09
Chisholm. Let's just look at it.
1:19:10
Yeah, he led the league in hits, but he he's never been a 3030
1:19:13
guy. Again, he also didn't play in
1:19:15
Yankee Stadium and Jazz Chisholm before he you.
1:19:19
Still got to hit the ball, man. Yeah, he's he played in Miami.
1:19:22
He was all right in Miami. He comes to Yankee Stadium.
1:19:24
It's a 30 home runs. You're going to tell me that
1:19:26
Bichette comes to get the Yankee Stadium is not getting over 30
1:19:29
home runs? The guy's got popping his bat.
1:19:31
He plays with the Blue Jays. He plays in Toronto.
1:19:34
That's not a hitting ballpark. Come on man, you're going to
1:19:37
tell me that if. Well, it depends on if the roof
1:19:38
is closed or not. I'm just saying, you're going to
1:19:41
tell me that Bichette can't hit 30?
1:19:43
He can't hit 40 over there in Yankee Stadium.
1:19:45
Look at the short porch. I think you can hit 30, Jabba.
1:19:49
I mean, seriously, I might see that.
1:19:51
It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous to say, well,
1:19:54
jazz Chism or Chism, whatever you want to call him.
1:19:58
Oh, he's a superstar in his own right.
1:19:59
I think he's one of the most overrated players at his
1:20:02
position and all he does. Does his yap, yap, yap and he
1:20:05
wears his thick chains and he shows off on and off the field.
1:20:08
Well, guess what? Do it in the playoffs because to
1:20:11
me, he was a choke or a choke artist against the Blue Jays.
1:20:15
He didn't show up in that series.
1:20:17
And one of the reasons why the Yankees couldn't get over the
1:20:18
hump against the Blue Jays was because of the old jazzy baby.
1:20:22
That's what I think. Guys, this sounds like my
1:20:24
Twitter mentions during the postseason last year.
1:20:27
You guys heard, I've heard all this before.
1:20:29
I've read it all before. I, I'm a, I'm a Jazz Chisholm
1:20:32
fan. I I like what he adds to the
1:20:34
Yankee dynamic there. I like the the energy.
1:20:37
I think it's something to where the clubhouse needs a player
1:20:40
like that who can stir things up.
1:20:42
And as a beat reporter covering this team, I love a guy who
1:20:45
speaks his mind and does though without a filter.
1:20:47
So no, I'm a big Jazz fan and you know, I got a lot of heat As
1:20:52
for suggesting what I just said earlier here, that the Yankees
1:20:55
could entertain trading him and, and of course, Frank Ashman
1:20:58
confirmed that, but a lot of people were saying, oh, you hate
1:21:01
Jazz because XYZ? No, I'm just telling you what's
1:21:05
happening, guys. And so to go back to your thing
1:21:08
about Bichette, you know, I was talking to people in Toronto.
1:21:10
I was covering the ALCS last year because I had to go up and
1:21:14
do that Seattle Toronto series. And I was kind of poking around
1:21:16
a little bit there and I asked, first of all, people in the Blue
1:21:21
Jays, they think Bichettes coming back, but they also think
1:21:25
if he went to the Yankees, he'd be a great fit there.
1:21:27
He'd be a great fit in Yankee Stadium, in the clubhouse.
1:21:29
His power numbers would go up in the Bronx.
1:21:32
The the problem I would have with him bringing him in is
1:21:35
defensively, he's not your shortstop.
1:21:37
And I know Volpe had trouble defensively last year, but you
1:21:41
can see where he would get better with better health.
1:21:44
Bichette needs to get moved off of shortstop.
1:21:46
So you're talking about him as a third baseman or a second
1:21:49
baseman as we talked about there.
1:21:51
Yankees are set at second base with Jazz for at least one more
1:21:53
year. And don't forget they traded for
1:21:56
Ryan McMahon, and that's fifteen, $16,000,000.
1:21:58
That's significant. It's not like you have Oswaldo
1:22:01
Cabrera at 3rd and you can just move him off there.
1:22:03
So I feel like the Yankees are just kind of too, too top heavy
1:22:07
to bring in somebody like that without moving something off I.
1:22:10
Want to ask about the veteran pitchers now with with Rodon and
1:22:13
also with Garrett Cole coming back.
1:22:14
He had missed the entire season last year and then Rodon had a
1:22:17
Goodyear strikeouts. Why he's probably his best year
1:22:19
as a Yankee, but still been kind of up and down in his career.
1:22:22
Like, could you see the Yankees potentially look if they maybe
1:22:25
have a down year at the trade deadline or anything like that,
1:22:27
shopping one of them or even like one of these trades in a
1:22:29
bigger deal, a bigger. Trade.
1:22:31
We're talking about moving Carlos Rodon.
1:22:35
At that contract right right now or if that's the deadline you
1:22:38
think? I don't know.
1:22:39
It's a pretty significant contract.
1:22:41
I mean, I guess he has value. And yeah, you never say never,
1:22:44
But that's the thing, is that to move these guys, to move if you
1:22:49
wanted to, a Garrett Cole or a Carlos Rodon or a Max Freed,
1:22:52
which of course you're not going to do.
1:22:54
But to do that, there's so much weight on that and there's a
1:22:56
very small list of teams that could even take on that kind of
1:23:00
contract without going underwater.
1:23:02
And so, no, I don't see it. I think that more likely if the
1:23:06
Yankees needed to make a trade and they were trying to offload
1:23:09
some pitching, it would be the younger guys, the guys under
1:23:11
control, the guys who are more flexible there.
1:23:13
There's Cam Schlittler, Louise Heel, you know, Will Warren.
1:23:19
I think that any one of those guys way more likely than seeing
1:23:22
Carlos Rodon. No, I think Rodon stays in the
1:23:25
Bronx, probably for his entire contractor.
1:23:27
Brian, look at Jabba was trying to put his hat on his head, the
1:23:30
hat that he used to wear. I saw that he's trying.
1:23:34
It's sweat and all the other well in my bald skillet right
1:23:37
now. Like you can't get a hat on as
1:23:38
good as you. Stop, Jabba.
1:23:40
Your hair, your mug just got bigger.
1:23:42
That's what it was. No, it's literally it's the same
1:23:46
size. But when we when we, when you
1:23:50
talk about pitchers, right? And it's so they moved Antonio
1:23:53
Gomez from catcher to pitcher, right?
1:23:56
And we're talking about prospects too.
1:23:58
And, and what you brought up a little bit earlier and a guy
1:24:01
that moved in, do they see like trading pieces?
1:24:05
And obviously we talked about Jones, but then you got another
1:24:08
guy in Carlos Grange and what he's done too.
1:24:11
And there's leverage in that. And granted, there the farm
1:24:14
system isn't is great, but they have great pieces to it.
1:24:18
Are they willing? Like I know Cam's probably he
1:24:21
he's proven that that his value because he's done it at the big
1:24:24
league level. And when you you, you know this
1:24:27
as well as I do. If you're going to make a trade
1:24:31
to get prospects, you want a big league ready guy, sure.
1:24:35
But if you're going to get a guy that you moved with the
1:24:37
potential from catcher to like, let's lose Kenley for an
1:24:41
example. He was a catcher and look what
1:24:44
he's done. He he's going to.
1:24:45
Work out pretty well. He was.
1:24:47
He was my catcher in Hawaii. Is that right?
1:24:49
I didn't know that. Yeah, and he couldn't hit where
1:24:53
the lick. Yeah, look how it turned out.
1:24:57
But you move a guy like Gomez and don't know what you're
1:25:00
really going to get because he's just there, but he's throwing
1:25:02
100. And then you have Carlos, who's
1:25:04
done what he's done and have some good secondary stuff.
1:25:07
Needs to be more efficient with it.
1:25:09
And I loved watching his videos because stature, it plays,
1:25:12
right? It plays.
1:25:14
I like him a lot. I, I got to see him a little bit
1:25:16
in spring training and that's legit.
1:25:17
He's raw. He he's got to grow into his
1:25:20
body a little bit, but the confidence is there, the
1:25:22
swagger. I really like that kid.
1:25:24
And I think that if he comes into spring training this year,
1:25:26
he's going to open a lot of eyes and I think people are going to
1:25:29
know his name. And are they, are they willing
1:25:31
to even entertain that at that point or, or do they want to
1:25:34
keep those, those aspects of what they kind of have now
1:25:39
compared to like, because if you want to get better, you got to
1:25:42
take a chance. And you've seen when we've been
1:25:45
successful in this organization is you got to take chance of
1:25:48
people like, and that's not through free agency because
1:25:52
we've seen how that's worked and it has worked in some aspects.
1:25:56
But when you create like dynasties and you create like
1:26:00
what the concept of the team is and you've built them from
1:26:04
there, like, do you think they would entertain any of those
1:26:07
guys even being in the? Conversation.
1:26:10
How many times did you get mentioned in trade rumors?
1:26:12
Around 2. 1000. Holiday every year.
1:26:15
Yeah, exactly. So yeah, would they entertain
1:26:17
it? Sure.
1:26:18
But I also remember a certain guy came up in O 7 and was the
1:26:22
most lights out reliever I've ever seen, and he was basically
1:26:25
Joe Torre's cheat code. So that's what you could get
1:26:27
with a guy like Carlos LaGrange. I I think that, yeah, you have
1:26:31
to kind of weigh that and say, all right, he could bring back X
1:26:34
or we can use him for our own purposes here.
1:26:37
For a guy who's, I mean, everybody throws so hard now.
1:26:40
So it's not to say a guy's throwing 98 is not really all
1:26:43
that novel anymore, but I mean, it moves and it's legit.
1:26:46
And he's got a different look. I can't really explain what it
1:26:49
is, but when you see it, it's just like, oh, you, you pay
1:26:53
attention because I mean, you know how spring training goes.
1:26:55
You're seeing games with seven guys on the mound for each team,
1:26:58
and it's like they all kind of blur together.
1:27:00
He stood out and so I want to see more of him.
1:27:03
But you, you, you bring up something that that I've touched
1:27:06
on all the time. I think analyticals are very
1:27:08
important. But you covered me when it
1:27:11
happened. And they put Jean Michael, they
1:27:16
put Billy Eppler, Brian Cashman, Reggie Jackson, all these people
1:27:19
to put eyes on what it is. You can see what it is.
1:27:24
But you've covered baseball. And I don't give a damn what
1:27:27
anybody says. Men and women that cover the
1:27:31
game in baseball, they see things differently.
1:27:34
And like, if you see something, you can't quantify what it is,
1:27:37
but you see what it is. But if you don't put that and
1:27:41
just rely on what what you think and you haven't been wrong very
1:27:46
often. I'm wrong sometimes?
1:27:49
Yeah, well, we all are. But when it comes to like
1:27:52
certain things, like the eye on the prize of what you think they
1:27:56
can do, how you seen things progress, it's do you want to
1:28:02
give up on that or do you want to ride that out?
1:28:04
And I think that's kind of where where you're looking at.
1:28:07
It's like, do you want to give up on that or do you kind of
1:28:10
want to build something going forward?
1:28:11
Totally. I, I think that building from
1:28:14
within is always what you want to do, especially when you have
1:28:16
an owner who's talking about it would be ideal to lower payroll
1:28:19
and he's uncomfortable being a 319 and blah, blah, blah, blah,
1:28:22
blah. And we can talk about, you know,
1:28:23
his statement about do the Yankees actually make a profit?
1:28:26
If they don't, then I don't know what we're doing here.
1:28:29
But I, I think that can they be a World Series team from
1:28:35
building from within. I think some of these pieces
1:28:37
actually can help them And look, because I don't see them right
1:28:40
now with the Dodgers. And I was on another show I
1:28:43
think 2 days ago and they, they said, what's the one move the
1:28:46
Yankees could make to, to make them a World Series championship
1:28:49
team. And I, I look at this free Asian
1:28:50
market. I can't tell you I, I can't tell
1:28:52
you that signing Cody Bellinger or Kyle Tucker makes them a
1:28:56
World Series favorite because look how stacked that Dodger
1:28:58
team is. First, the first thing first is
1:29:00
I need to see them go head to head with the Blue Jays and take
1:29:03
care of business because Toronto is better, Boston is getting
1:29:07
better, Baltimore just signed Pete Alonso, they're getting
1:29:10
better. So I mean, the AL East is always
1:29:12
going to be really, really good. And the Yankees right now
1:29:15
haven't done anything to improve themselves.
1:29:16
So maybe one way that you can do that, if you got a kid with
1:29:19
lightning in his arm like Carlos LaGrange out down there, maybe
1:29:22
you don't have them on opening day, you get them on July,
1:29:25
whatever. Maybe that makes a big
1:29:27
difference for your independent race.
1:29:28
Do you think? But you think they hold on to
1:29:30
them too, and the same. And you know this as well as I
1:29:32
do. Do you think they wait till that
1:29:35
threshold where it starts his clock?
1:29:39
That's always, it's always part of it, right?
1:29:41
I mean, you always got to think about that.
1:29:42
And that is, I mean, that's what they do behind the scenes and
1:29:45
that's part of the calculation that goes on there.
1:29:47
But I would I would just look at is the innings pitch for him and
1:29:50
he's so raw like that. That was the one thing that I
1:29:53
saw with him in spring training last year.
1:29:55
And I'm sure you had a whole year of development time since
1:29:58
then, but you could just tell there was lightning, there was
1:30:01
Thunder in that arm. But he needed time to Polish.
1:30:04
And and part of that is just facing hitters more and more.
1:30:07
I mean, he he's a baby. And you, you get that when you
1:30:09
talk to him. You get those kind of bright
1:30:11
eyes and the wide eyes. I saw that from you.
1:30:13
I think. Where are we?
1:30:14
The Futures Game in San Francisco.
1:30:17
Remember that? That was actually the first time
1:30:18
I met you. And so, yeah, I remember coming
1:30:21
away from that and being like that.
1:30:22
Kids going to come to the big leagues one day and he's going
1:30:24
to be something. We are talking, it was only a
1:30:27
month and a half later. I know I didn't think you were
1:30:29
coming up that soon, but I, I, I said I'm going to watch you.
1:30:33
We are talking to mlb.com's Yankee beat reporter and author
1:30:37
of 62, Brian Hoke. Brian, I just want to say I want
1:30:41
to go through a couple of things and I don't want to keep you on
1:30:44
too much longer there. There's two things that I really
1:30:46
wanted to get into when you were at the Winter Meetings and the
1:30:49
Mets decided to let Edwin Diaz go.
1:30:53
Whatever was going on with the the Mets organization and the
1:30:56
Pete Alonzo thing, him signing with the Orioles, Was there
1:30:59
anything that happened after the fact where there were people
1:31:04
wondering what the Mets were doing?
1:31:06
Was there anything that you saw at the winter meetings that made
1:31:09
you think, are the Mets actually doing the right thing for the
1:31:13
organization? Was, did it make you think that
1:31:15
they, that the, the Mets weren't in the same place or the same
1:31:18
position that they've been in every single year with an owner
1:31:22
that will spend money after money after money after money
1:31:25
and just continuously throw money out there?
1:31:29
And all of a sudden over the last, the last, I don't know,
1:31:33
last couple of weeks decide to let their star pitcher, their
1:31:37
star relief pitcher to go to the, the, the Dodgers.
1:31:40
And it was the one weakness the Dodgers have.
1:31:42
He goes over there and then Pete Alonso goes in the American
1:31:45
League East to play with the Orioles.
1:31:46
Was there anything that you saw that made you think that the
1:31:50
Mets are just not in the same place they were over the last
1:31:53
couple of years? I'll put it to you this way.
1:31:55
What the Mets are to me right now is a beautiful mansion where
1:32:01
the basement keeps flooding and and some at some point you just
1:32:04
have to say we have to tear this down and we have to fix it and
1:32:07
we have to fix the flood because it keeps coming.
1:32:09
And so every year you look at it from afar and you say that
1:32:13
should really be great. That's going to be that is a
1:32:15
beautiful house. And then every time it rains, it
1:32:18
floods. And that's what you see with the
1:32:20
myths. And so I think that they did
1:32:22
definitely have some issues in their clubhouse.
1:32:25
And you hear about the things going on between Lindor and
1:32:28
Nimmo and, you know, I think that Diaz, I mean, why are these
1:32:32
guys not trying to come back? And so I, I think it makes you
1:32:35
question what exactly is going on behind closed doors with the
1:32:39
Mets. And maybe they need change of
1:32:41
scenery guys. And maybe there's a reason they
1:32:43
keep poaching players from the Yankees who have been through
1:32:46
New York and, and can handle the spotlight there.
1:32:48
And they're trying to bring in some more of that kind of
1:32:51
attitude. And I don't want to say it's all
1:32:52
one sided because they the Yankees have been picking up Met
1:32:55
guys too. One of their signings this
1:32:57
offseason is Ahmed Rosario, who played across town.
1:33:00
So I, I think it goes both ways. I think that when you're GM of a
1:33:03
New York team, if a guy has played in a major market, if
1:33:07
he's played in Chicago, LA, New York, I think that kind of
1:33:11
carries a little extra weight for you.
1:33:13
And that's brings me right back to Cody Bellinger, who has
1:33:15
played in all three of those. So there's a ton of teams that I
1:33:19
think would be interested in a player like that because he's
1:33:21
proven himself on a big stage. And so I just feel like with the
1:33:25
Mets, yeah, you got unlimited funds.
1:33:27
You can go get pretty much anybody you want, but it hasn't
1:33:30
worked out yet. And I know Steve Cohen wants to
1:33:33
and intends to bring a World Series championship to New York.
1:33:36
He just got his big casino deal right next to City Field.
1:33:39
So that he's trying to make that a destination where the the chop
1:33:42
chops were and all that. And so we'll see.
1:33:46
We'll see. I mean, but I think what it does
1:33:47
prove more than anything is you can't just throw your wallet at
1:33:50
it. And that's takes me back to what
1:33:52
the Yankees been doing for almost 20 years now is they've
1:33:55
been spending a lot of money with not a lot to show for it.
1:33:58
And I mean, they make the playoffs all the time, but they
1:34:01
haven't been able to get that title.
1:34:02
And I think that proves that it's just not as easy as you
1:34:04
think it's going to be. Jeff Kent, he's inducted to the
1:34:07
Hall of Fame. Well deserved.
1:34:09
Don Manley is a guy that I absolutely adore, is my favorite
1:34:13
player growing up. Jabba knows it.
1:34:15
Everybody that listens to the show knows that.
1:34:16
Don Manley. I believe Don Manley should have
1:34:18
been in the Hall of Fame a long time ago.
1:34:21
He's obviously not. And now he has to wait until
1:34:24
2028 to possibly be inducted to the Hall of Fame.
1:34:27
And also, Keith Hernandez should be in the Hall of Fame, one of
1:34:31
the greatest first defensive first baseman of all time.
1:34:34
Do you think at any point of the next 15 years, both these guys
1:34:39
are going to see the Hall of Fame?
1:34:41
We're talking about Mattingly and Hernandez.
1:34:43
Hernandez, yes. I got to say I was actually on
1:34:48
duty for the the announcement on Sunday and I had about 750 words
1:34:53
ready to go. Donnie Baseball, he's in the
1:34:54
Hall of Fame and here it is and XYZ and here's his whole career.
1:34:58
And so I was as surprised as anybody.
1:35:00
I thought Mattingly was going to get in.
1:35:01
I thought maybe Dill Murphy would get in out of that group.
1:35:04
And so I did not have Jeff Kent on my radar.
1:35:07
And I don't have an argument with Jeff Kent.
1:35:09
Great power hitting second baseman, more home runs than any
1:35:12
other second baseman. But yeah, Donnie baseball, I
1:35:15
mean, that peak from 1984 to 1989, that was just, I mean, he
1:35:20
was the best player in the game. And so I think that it deserves
1:35:24
another look. I'm surprised he didn't get in
1:35:26
as much support as he did. But I also put it to, I put it
1:35:29
this way, if you ran for mayor of your town now 14 times and
1:35:33
you didn't get elected mayor 14 times, maybe you're just not
1:35:36
going to be the mayor. Maybe that's just not going to
1:35:39
be it. And so I think that I'm sure
1:35:41
Donnie has had that thought. I'm sure he's disappointed.
1:35:45
A lot of fans are. But I think that also you have
1:35:48
to be realistic and say if it doesn't happen, it doesn't
1:35:51
happen. And he's in Monument Park.
1:35:52
He's a great Yankee. It doesn't take away anything
1:35:55
that it did. Would it be awesome and would
1:35:57
the Hall of Fame be a better place if Don Mattingly was in
1:35:59
it? I think so.
1:36:00
I I think having him as a representative would be great
1:36:02
for the Hall, but not up to me. And so, yeah, I think that you
1:36:07
got to be realistic. It just doesn't happen.
1:36:09
For your first vote this year. What's that?
1:36:12
You got your first vote this year.
1:36:13
I do, yeah. And who would you vote for Java?
1:36:19
And no, and, and I first of all, that'll never happen to me.
1:36:22
But in, in, I've known you for a long time and we've gotten to
1:36:26
know each other on a different level and which I'm very
1:36:30
thankful for. And I know you take pride.
1:36:33
Buttering me up for that beef jerky, man.
1:36:36
Well, I'm going to get it either way, Dang it.
1:36:40
But and I, I know what that means to you, because at the end
1:36:42
of the day, it's, it's, it's what we stand for.
1:36:45
It's like you work hard for it, but you also care about it,
1:36:48
like, and you care about like what is better for the game
1:36:51
Because so one thing we've talked about when you've had to
1:36:54
cover bad stories of me and, and it's like, I didn't want to do
1:36:58
it, but it's like, I've got to be the best of what I can do,
1:37:01
right? And, and for me and the guys
1:37:04
that we've obviously been encountering with that, that we
1:37:07
are still great friends with that I'm always been honest with
1:37:11
you guys. And, and that's the one thing
1:37:15
where like I've always loved you because it's like you care about
1:37:19
the game. This isn't about you.
1:37:21
And it's like, I, I'm going to do what I think is right.
1:37:24
Obviously, you never played the game at that level, which that
1:37:29
is neither here nor there, but you are somebody that is valued
1:37:33
in this game more than you realize.
1:37:36
And when you get that vote and when you say it to that extent
1:37:40
and and like how much that means to you when you got when you got
1:37:43
that. And it's like when we get that
1:37:46
phone call, right? When we get that phone call to
1:37:49
get to the big leagues. And you've done this a long
1:37:52
time. But when you've earned that
1:37:54
right to have that vote, like, what does that mean to you in
1:37:58
your career? Oh man.
1:38:01
Well, first of all, thank you. I appreciate it.
1:38:03
And you know, what we appreciated with you, Jabba, was
1:38:06
always that you were a stand up guy.
1:38:07
I mean, when it was good, when it was bad, I mean that that's
1:38:10
really all we ask is just be accountable.
1:38:13
And so you were always that and you you said what was on your
1:38:16
mind and you didn't hide things, you didn't lie.
1:38:19
And I mean, we, we appreciated it.
1:38:21
I mean, that's you know, so I mean, no, there's no rule that
1:38:24
says you got to stand at your locker and and talk to the ten
1:38:27
of us after a game or whatever, but we appreciated that you did
1:38:30
it. And so as far as getting that it
1:38:34
was cool, it was great. I mean, it's something that I
1:38:37
never dreamed of. I grew up loving baseball, you
1:38:39
know, since I was 7-8 years old. And yeah, no, I didn't.
1:38:42
I never thought I was going to play in the big leagues.
1:38:44
And you know, I hoped I would be able to get into a press box 1
1:38:47
day and write about it and tell, tell your story and tell other
1:38:50
guys stories. And so I hope I did that well
1:38:53
over my time. And I'm still going.
1:38:55
So I'm not retiring or anything. And so, but it is cool to know
1:38:58
that I, I feel like it is a badge of honor.
1:39:02
It is just to be able to, you know, just because my say
1:39:07
doesn't mean everything. I mean, there's 405 hundred
1:39:10
people voting, but to just have a little piece of it and to put
1:39:14
my like finger on the scale and say.
1:39:16
Will you post yours? Yeah, I'll do it.
1:39:18
I'll do it. I'm not ready yet.
1:39:20
I I think I'm ready in my mind, but I haven't sent it and so I
1:39:23
will. But yeah, I think it's an
1:39:27
interesting ballot. It is.
1:39:28
And so I I'll give you a sneak peek is that I always said
1:39:33
before I got my vote, I said I would have voted for Barry
1:39:35
Bonds. I would have voted for Roger
1:39:37
Clemens. So I think you can kind of make
1:39:40
a connection that a rod will get a yes on my my ballot.
1:39:42
Manny will too, because I think that the cats out, you know, I I
1:39:48
think that the door is open already and so I think there's
1:39:51
already guys in there who probably did a thing or two
1:39:54
also. So I don't, I, I have an idea of
1:39:57
where I'm going with it, but I'll I'll definitely give you
1:40:00
more detail when it when it goes in the mail my.
1:40:02
My last question, I want to mention it because I've, I've
1:40:04
been in the Baseball Hall of Fame and it was so elaborate
1:40:07
because of its history. There you've been in the
1:40:09
Baseball Hall of Fame. I've no way.
1:40:10
Visited there 13. Years OK Visit OK.
1:40:13
I went there and like, because it closed early, I couldn't even
1:40:16
finish it because baseball is such an elaborate history too.
1:40:18
And you you would think in like a sport of controversy, like
1:40:21
they would want to embrace it more.
1:40:22
We talked about it last year when Pete Rose passed away, like
1:40:24
he never got in. And then he gets in on the
1:40:25
senior ballot. And even going before that too,
1:40:27
with guys like Shoeless Joe Jackson, some of those
1:40:29
controversies you saw throughout history, and you just mentioned
1:40:32
it with Barry Bonds with steroids like like he's probably
1:40:35
a Hall of Famer with he's definitely a Hall of Famer
1:40:37
without steroids and seven. 160 two home runs.
1:40:39
Yeah, he better be. Yeah, and even before steroids.
1:40:41
He had Pittsburgh Barry Bonds. Stolen base and stuff like that
1:40:45
too. So, like, do you think the sport
1:40:46
and like the Hall of Fame is just trying to avoid the
1:40:48
controversy or does it sound like it's more hypocritical?
1:40:51
Well, no, I mean in Bonds case he was on the ballot for 10
1:40:54
years. It was the writers who didn't
1:40:56
put him in and and now you have that other committee that did
1:40:59
not select him and Clemens. So I think that there's a lot of
1:41:03
old school people still. I think that the voting
1:41:07
contingent is getting younger. I can I can definitely say that
1:41:10
and that I think I know there's a new influx of people because
1:41:14
the reason I didn't have a vote until now, there was a rule you
1:41:18
had to cover baseball for 10 years and his Java knows I
1:41:20
started covering the Yankees in O 7.
1:41:22
So if you do the math, wait, it's 2017.
1:41:26
But they didn't let Internet people in until 2015.
1:41:29
And so we were thought of as less than, you know, back when
1:41:33
the Internet was a fad, I guess that they weren't sure it was
1:41:36
going to take off. So anyway, it took until 2015.
1:41:39
Things move slowly in baseball. And so.
1:41:42
So yeah, I definitely put in more than 10 years to waiting
1:41:46
for it. But it was good to get finally
1:41:48
get that in the mail. Do you think they'll be though
1:41:50
on, on the same, same realm of, of like now when it changed to
1:41:55
that 10 year mark of, of actually covering it And then
1:41:58
when they moved from like the media side to actually like you
1:42:01
guys are valued in what you do. Do you think there should be a,
1:42:07
a caveat to that to where you have like obviously the MVP, but
1:42:12
you have like the player's choice MVP and you have, do you
1:42:15
think retired players in that have played against these guys?
1:42:20
Do you think there should be value in, in their opinion or
1:42:24
their vote as well? And where do you think that fits
1:42:27
into the Hall of Fame committee? I, I, yeah, I'm fine with that.
1:42:32
I mean, the idea that, for example, a Joe Torre doesn't
1:42:36
have a say in Hall of Fame voting, I I mean, I know he's
1:42:40
been on a couple of those veteran committees, but I'm OK
1:42:43
with the idea of a revamp. I think.
1:42:46
Yeah, So much of it is, well, this is the way it's always been
1:42:50
done. And so this is how it's going to
1:42:52
be done going forward. And that's fine, but it's also
1:42:55
stagnant. And so, you know, just because
1:42:57
the Hall of Fame was founded in 1930s and the baseball writers
1:43:01
were the most knowledgeable people at that time.
1:43:04
I mean, the world's changed a lot since the 1930s.
1:43:07
I mean, how many people still pick up a physical newspaper?
1:43:10
I'm sorry to say, but it's not that many.
1:43:12
And so I, I think that media has changed, the world has changed.
1:43:17
And so at some point that's probably going to happen.
1:43:20
I think I, I know that, look, the Hall of Fame is all about
1:43:24
tradition and, you know, honoring history.
1:43:27
And, but I think that it's silly to say that you couldn't have
1:43:31
input from a Joe Torre or when he was alive, a Vin Scully or
1:43:34
somebody like that, that they wouldn't have something
1:43:37
interesting or, or valid to say about who should or should not
1:43:41
be in the Hall of Fame. So I, I say Susan Waldman is a
1:43:45
perfect example. You're going to tell me that I
1:43:47
know more baseball and Susan, I don't, I really don't.
1:43:50
And so I think that if you were going to have any of these
1:43:54
people be able to weigh in, if you put in a certain number of
1:43:58
time or certain amount of years around the game and in it, then
1:44:02
you should absolutely have a say in the Hall of Fame because it's
1:44:05
a place, it's a museum that honors the game's history.
1:44:08
And so you should have as many people who know the history and
1:44:12
value it as you can. Brian, before we let you go, I
1:44:15
have one more question to ask you.
1:44:17
The A keys right now is sitting and they're waiting.
1:44:20
If you were the Yankees GM right now or you're the the back end
1:44:24
guy that has the informed information behind.
1:44:27
This I quit. I don't want the job.
1:44:29
I quit right now. I turn in my resignation.
1:44:33
I say, Hal, see you. I'm out.
1:44:36
What do you think the Yankees are going to do?
1:44:40
I think they are going to come in with a very strong offer to
1:44:45
get Cody Bellinger. I think it's probably not going
1:44:47
to be enough. I think he's going to get more
1:44:49
years and more dollars elsewhere.
1:44:50
And then I think they're going to pivot to pitching.
1:44:52
They're going to try to bring in EMI.
1:44:54
I don't know if they're going to be the high bid on that.
1:44:57
The problem with it is seems like he's going to be pretty
1:45:00
secretive and he's another Boris guy and they haven't had great
1:45:03
success in the Japanese market. So then you move to maybe your
1:45:06
next one on the list, Michael King.
1:45:09
That's an interesting one to me. I think that there is a real
1:45:12
chance they wind up with Michael King because it's a double
1:45:15
whammy. You bring back a guy who you
1:45:17
didn't really want to trade in the 1st place.
1:45:19
You gave them up to get to Juan Soto who got you to a World
1:45:21
Series. So you do that 10 times out of
1:45:23
10. But a chance to bring back a guy
1:45:26
who everybody in organization loves and you keep them away
1:45:29
from other teams in your division.
1:45:30
I can see them going that way and just try and build what
1:45:33
could be the best rotation in baseball or certainly in the
1:45:35
American League. Very interesting.
1:45:38
Well, Brian, I know you're a busy guy.
1:45:40
I know you got a wife, you got a bunch of kids, so.
1:45:44
I do. Oh, where is she?
1:45:45
Oh yeah, right. You're traveling, but you're
1:45:49
obviously back in spring training is around the corner.
1:45:53
What do we have a couple of months and we're going to be
1:45:54
talking about spring training. We're going to be talking about
1:45:56
the season. Hopefully the Yankees do spend
1:45:59
money because Hal is complaining and crying as we all expected
1:46:04
him to do. And and Steve, Uncle Stevie, a
1:46:06
lot of met fans are pissed off because they believe the only
1:46:09
reason why Uncle Stevie bought the team was because he wanted
1:46:12
that casino. He got what he wanted.
1:46:14
And now all of a sudden he let Pete Alonzo gone.
1:46:17
He let these Edwin Diaz go and and it seems like he's sitting
1:46:21
with the team that he has. We'll see what the Mets do, but
1:46:24
it was shocking that they let Pete Alonso go.
1:46:27
It was even more shocking that Edwin Diaz went to the Dodgers
1:46:31
and now is sitting pretty with the one position, the one
1:46:36
situation that the the Dodgers were so bad in back and forth
1:46:40
all season long. And now they got the best closer
1:46:42
in baseball. They have the best one of the
1:46:44
best rotations in baseball and they probably have the best
1:46:47
lineup in the last 25 years. So I, I don't know.
1:46:50
I, I, I can't, I have nothing to say more but expect the Dodgers
1:46:55
to win another World Series this year.
1:46:57
A3 peat. So I don't, I don't think
1:47:00
anybody is going to argue that I think.
1:47:02
They can. Well, B, what do you think?
1:47:03
Like now that they brought Devin over when maybe they thought
1:47:09
they were going to have Edwin and now he's going to have the
1:47:12
same controversy on the other side of the fence.
1:47:16
Even though like, like you said earlier, it's like these big
1:47:19
market guys that have been there before.
1:47:21
Now he's going to be the end all the meets, all because who else
1:47:24
are you going to bring, Speedy? You you know this as well I do
1:47:26
as a Mets fan. Where do you go after Devin
1:47:29
Williams, Luke? Weaver, of course.
1:47:32
Isn't that where Aaron Boone went?
1:47:33
Yeah, great. You know, that's a perfect last
1:47:37
name for him. Let's weave out of something
1:47:40
else. So I I don't know, I I.
1:47:43
Think it's Brian. The last Cardinals relief
1:47:45
pitcher they tried to trade for was an abject disaster.
1:47:47
And Luke? Weaver couldn't.
1:47:49
Yeah, I did not. And you know what?
1:47:50
I was wrong on that one, too, Jabba.
1:47:52
There's one I was wrong on. I said Ryan Helsley would be a
1:47:55
great fit for the Yankees bullpen.
1:47:57
I didn't know that they were going to go get David Bednar.
1:48:00
I thought Helsley was the guy to go get.
1:48:02
And look, I I was wrong on that. Hey, B, remember, Remember Sean
1:48:07
Kelly? Sure.
1:48:09
Look at Sean Kelly and David Bednar.
1:48:11
Look at their profile pictures. They are I I literally when when
1:48:16
they signed Bednar, I text Sean and I'm like, that's you in a
1:48:20
different way. And then everybody's like ocean
1:48:22
and everything. And it's like we've had this
1:48:24
conversation plenty of times. What do they want?
1:48:26
They they want personality on the back end of what it is.
1:48:30
And they got what is successful because they were so spoiled
1:48:34
with MO for so long. And then I came in and then they
1:48:38
had Chapman, then they had D Rob and they had all those guys.
1:48:42
And now they have somebody back in that has what the team didn't
1:48:45
have right. And now at the back end of
1:48:48
scene, like, and I love watching him because at the end of the
1:48:51
day, they they try to take emotion away from me and now
1:48:55
it's like they try to generate it with it and they're trying to
1:48:58
bring him back because obviously in your captain, Aaron is is
1:49:02
Aaron. And we're not going to take
1:49:03
anything away from him because he's one of the greatest players
1:49:05
in the game right now, But also he's not an emotional guy.
1:49:08
Derek never was, Donnie Baseball never was.
1:49:12
But you had to have those guys and what you said earlier and
1:49:14
bring in that dynamic of a swish and why you like jazz, because
1:49:17
you have to have that in a clubhouse to win.
1:49:20
You have to have it. And what they have right now is
1:49:23
is showing the fact that it takes more than just one or two
1:49:27
things to make the piece of the puzzle work.
1:49:29
And if you want to get to where you're at, you're going to have
1:49:32
to figure out what that is. And I think that's kind of where
1:49:35
they lack. That's why I asked earlier, like
1:49:37
putting eyes on the prize of not only let's see not only what's
1:49:42
best on the field, but let's see what's best for our clubhouse
1:49:44
right now. Yeah.
1:49:47
And I think that's some some things that they lack in the
1:49:49
front office because they just look at numbers so much.
1:49:51
I think it's interesting you bring that up because I think
1:49:54
you at age 25, you might have had more fun with this team
1:49:59
right now because they would have let you be yourself and
1:50:02
they wouldn't have tried to tell you stop pumping your fist when
1:50:04
you come off the mound. And, and so I think that's an
1:50:07
interesting thought. I hadn't actually thought about
1:50:09
that, but, you know, I, I don't know if that would have helped
1:50:11
your performance or not. I don't know if that makes you
1:50:13
better or worse, but I, I think you would have enjoyed it a
1:50:16
little bit more in this current environment because I think it
1:50:19
it is a little looser and it's a they, they let you be who you
1:50:23
are. And today's athletes are just
1:50:24
different across the board anyway.
1:50:26
I mean, you know, I think that the, the things these guys do
1:50:30
away from the field, I mean, they play video games.
1:50:31
They, they don't go out clubbing and go to bars and stuff like
1:50:34
that. I mean, it's just a different
1:50:35
time in baseball. And so, yeah, I don't know, I, I
1:50:39
think it would have been interesting to see what a 25
1:50:42
year old Jabba would do in 2025. Ryan there is no clubs.
1:50:45
There is no bars. Well, there are bars, but there
1:50:48
there are no clubs anymore. Nightclubs.
1:50:50
There really is. No, doesn't exist, right?
1:50:52
It's weird. And maybe social media is is
1:50:54
part of that. I'm sure it is.
1:50:56
You know, guys don't want to be on display.
1:50:57
And, you know, you know, Aaron Judge can't go out to Starbucks,
1:51:01
let alone to go out to a nightclub and, you know, do
1:51:03
whatever Derek Jeter was doing at the the China Club in the
1:51:06
90s. It's just a different world.
1:51:08
You can't do it. He's 69 and 280 lbs and he's
1:51:11
built like a brick. So if he walks through the door,
1:51:14
you know, it's, you know, we know it's Aaron Judge.
1:51:16
It's like Mike Trout. If he was walking in New York
1:51:18
City and he was wearing just a normal hat and in a Jean jacket,
1:51:22
you would not know it's Mike Trout.
1:51:24
But Aaron Judge, I mean, as soon as he walks into a building,
1:51:27
it's like Shaquille O'Neal. He walks into a bookstore, you
1:51:30
know, it's Shaq. It's 7 foot two big man walking
1:51:34
around weighing 300 lbs. So it's hard to miss.
1:51:37
It's hard to miss. But Brian, we, we love you.
1:51:41
We'd love to get you on probably when the preseason starts or a
1:51:45
little bit before that so we can talk about what the Yankees
1:51:47
didn't do and what the Yankees should have done.
1:51:50
And where do we see the Yankees this year?
1:51:53
But I expect the Yankees rotation to be great.
1:51:55
Garrick Cole will be back one way or another this year.
1:51:58
And you have Schlittler. I mean, this is a good rotation.
1:52:02
And, and again, there's a guy in Pittsburgh that already said he
1:52:04
wants to be in pinch drives one way or another.
1:52:06
So we'll see what? Happens.
1:52:07
Did he say that exactly? Are we sure about about that
1:52:10
everything? Goes a little.
1:52:11
Little bit of fake news on that one.
1:52:13
He's making assumptions. I'm.
1:52:14
Just making assumptions. Hopefully it'll stick to the
1:52:16
wall. I tell you what, let me tell you
1:52:18
about Paul Skins though, because and you talk about having
1:52:22
cojones. So he came to the BBWA dinner in
1:52:25
January to pick up his Rookie of the Year award, and he gave a
1:52:30
great speech. And Libby Dunn was there and it
1:52:32
was great. And he said at the end of his
1:52:34
speech, he said, I'll be back next year to pick up the Cy
1:52:37
Young. And I said, OK, all right, we'll
1:52:40
see. And damn if he didn't back it
1:52:42
up. And guess where he'll be in late
1:52:44
January to pick up his Cy Young Award in New York.
1:52:46
So pretty cool. Pretty cool to see a guy just
1:52:49
throw it out there on the table and like, yeah, I'm great.
1:52:52
And you're all going to eat it. Well, it's nice to watch him win
1:52:56
all the awards, but I actually like looking at the woman he's
1:52:58
dating too, so. She's a lovely lady and she was
1:53:02
very nice. She met my daughters and she's
1:53:05
awesome. She looks like a nice girl and
1:53:07
she's a beautiful woman and Paul Skins.
1:53:09
Is a very little but also be at the same time like he
1:53:12
understands where he's at in Pittsburgh is is winning valued
1:53:17
and like I and everybody I've talked to said he's obviously a
1:53:20
great human and the things that he does, you know, for our
1:53:23
troops and the fact that we're free to do what what we do.
1:53:28
But really like when it comes down to it, like is is winning a
1:53:31
thing? I'll never forget when Moose
1:53:33
retired in O 8 and I get a phone call when I was struggling early
1:53:39
to start and he's like, do I have to come back to to save
1:53:42
your ass? And I'm like, maybe I don't know
1:53:46
like what what the Hell's going on?
1:53:48
I have I have no idea. Like what am I?
1:53:50
What am I to say to you? Like you're, you're a Hall of
1:53:52
Famer. Like I don't, I don't know.
1:53:56
But what does he want to win? Right.
1:53:59
Well, first of all, I wish we had that Moose story for the
1:54:01
book because that would have been good.
1:54:02
We could have worked that in for sure.
1:54:05
Does he want to? Of course he has to.
1:54:06
Win a question, but you didn't ask me that one.
1:54:09
Sorry, I didn't know Mike Mussina called you early in the
1:54:12
season and tried to bail you out.
1:54:13
I wish I did. Does he want to win?
1:54:16
Of course he didn't. He talked about that.
1:54:17
He said that he's won at every level.
1:54:20
He won in the the military in college.
1:54:22
And this is the first time he's experienced losing and he
1:54:25
doesn't like it. But I mean, that's the reality
1:54:27
of where he is. That's why he got to the
1:54:29
Pirates, right? Because he was a high draft
1:54:31
pick. He was the 11.
1:54:32
And yeah, I think that you know what the situation is in
1:54:36
Pittsburgh. It's been that way for a long
1:54:37
time. And I don't know when it's going
1:54:39
to get better. And so, yeah, I think that if
1:54:42
you being realistic, of course he wants to win a championship.
1:54:45
So yeah, you would have to have one eye on the outside world and
1:54:49
say, all right, I'm putting in my time here and if this doesn't
1:54:52
get better by a certain date, I'm out.
1:54:55
So he was playing, he was playing two ways and we'll let
1:54:57
you go after this, playing two ways at Air Force and he won
1:55:00
Player of the Year award. What was the what was the name
1:55:02
of that player that he won? I don't know, was it the show?
1:55:06
Hey, Tony Award. Well.
1:55:08
It's years before that. Yeah, I know.
1:55:11
Babe Ruth, the John Ullerroot Award.
1:55:14
No way really for a two way player, huh?
1:55:18
Yep, how about that? Should have put it I covered on
1:55:21
all the route with the Mets. That's how old I am.
1:55:24
I'm feeding you knowledge like now.
1:55:25
Now that I'm done like I, I get time to.
1:55:28
Wait a second, wait a second. Feeding him knowledge.
1:55:30
I mean, was that in the book, or are you telling him that you're
1:55:32
one of the smartest baseball players of all time?
1:55:35
I'm one of the stupidest, I just happened to be dumb enough to be
1:55:39
good at something. He's got all the sports on
1:55:42
Michael Barrett though, how many pitchers he hit in his career.
1:55:45
Well, I mean. Yeah, because I've what's thing
1:55:47
called the Internet. Google it AI baby.
1:55:52
ChatGPT anyways. Careful.
1:55:55
ChatGPT, it can make mistakes. Yeah, it tells you that.
1:55:58
Well, Nick Goody is the king of using ChatGPT and we love a
1:56:03
shout out to Nick Goody. I know he's been working and I
1:56:06
know he's been wanting to come on the show.
1:56:08
But Brian, we love you. Keep up the good work and we'll
1:56:11
talk to you soon buddy. You got it guys.
1:56:13
See you. Thanks for having me.
1:56:14
Absolutely. Brian Hoch and and again, I, I
1:56:18
want to say something and I want to give a shout out to our boy,
1:56:21
the one and only Fish and I, I let Speedy Speedy, you're the
1:56:25
one who typed it up and all that other stuff.
1:56:26
I'll let you do the sports minute because I had no idea.
1:56:29
I didn't think Jabba. He gives me like this huge like
1:56:32
sheet paragraph and I'm reading it.
1:56:34
I'm like, during the whole thing, I thought it was going to
1:56:36
be like he was going to cut it down, slice it up because I know
1:56:39
Fish puts it together before the show and he reads it over and
1:56:43
over and over again. And he said, oh, I'm not going
1:56:44
to be here. I'm going to cut it down for
1:56:46
errors. So I'll make it easy for him.
1:56:47
Dude. He gave me a whole like 2 pages
1:56:50
worth of reading off a sportsman.
1:56:52
And I'm like, I'm looking at it. I'm like, I just got off of
1:56:55
being vertigoed. I mean, my eyes were, you know,
1:56:58
I finally came out of it and I'm reading and I'm like, holy crap,
1:57:02
I got to read this. So yeah.
1:57:05
So Speedy will be doing a sports minute, but we got more segments
1:57:09
to go. We got save your tears Mom.
1:57:12
What's one thing? That you can't talk to me about.
1:57:16
My sexual fantasies. No.
1:57:19
No, say your sorry. It is not ideal, but if it's
1:57:22
what means? It is not ideal, but if it's
1:57:24
just not ideal. But if it is, what means?
1:57:26
You can't treble stamp a double stamp.
1:57:28
You can't treble stamp a double stamp, Lloyd.
1:57:29
You can't dribble stamp a double stamp Lloyd.
1:57:32
You guys. Now it's time for save your
1:57:37
tears. Oh right, are we ready for Save
1:57:42
your tears? We don't have the one and only
1:57:44
fish tonight, so we have the speedster.
1:57:47
You ready? All right, yes, I'm ready to
1:57:48
host the 1st edition of my Savior Tears version.
1:57:52
We got week 16 match ups for three games that will be
1:57:54
featured is the. This makes my pick.
1:57:56
Two divisional battles, the Buccaneers and the Panthers, the
1:58:00
Packers at the Bears and then the Chargers at Nathan's Dallas
1:58:04
Cowboys. So these are the $5 players.
1:58:07
Jordan Love, Josh Jacob, CD Land, Mike Evans and Jake
1:58:10
Ferguson, Dak Javonte Williams, Ted McMillan, George Pickens and
1:58:14
Colston. Loveland at 4.
1:58:16
Caleb Williams, DeAndre Swift, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore and Kate
1:58:19
at 3. Justin Herbert, Rico Dowdle, the
1:58:21
ex Cowboy. It's.
1:58:21
Cortland, Loveland, Just so you. Know it's Colston Loveland.
1:58:24
He actually typed it wrong. Jaden Reed, Chris Godwin and
1:58:28
Arande Gadsden. OR is at 2 and then Baker
1:58:30
Mayfield, Amari and Hampton and Mecca Egbuca Lad Mcconkey and
1:58:33
Luke Musgrave. OR is at 1 being that the
1:58:36
Cowboys are playing? I won last week, Nathan, you are
1:58:39
going first. I had to.
1:58:41
Take a shit. All right, I'm going to go.
1:58:46
I'm going to go Kayla Williams, Green Pie.
1:58:51
I'm going to go Rico Droba. I'm going to go MC Miller,
1:58:58
actually Droba. Yeah, Chris Godwin and then
1:59:04
Droba. I'm going to do a Doo Doo.
1:59:11
Luke Musgrove. Suck my indo all.
1:59:15
Right. What's?
1:59:17
All right, so who does he have speaking?
1:59:19
Who was your quarterback? I missed your quarterback.
1:59:21
Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams.
1:59:22
OK, see, he's got, he's got Caleb.
1:59:24
He's got Caleb Williams, He's got Rico Dowdle, he's got
1:59:26
McMillan, Godwin and Musgrave. You do know Caleb Williams is
1:59:30
playing Green Bay this week? Right, I know.
1:59:33
All right, all right, Jarrett, we'll go to you.
1:59:35
Give me Dak Prescott. Thumb up my.
1:59:39
Omarion Hampton, My pinky is bigger than yours.
1:59:43
Emeka Ibuka. Let's see, I guess he tasted.
1:59:47
Stuff and I'll go George Pickens and Jake Ferguson.
1:59:51
Good job, Yeah. All.
1:59:53
Right, that is 15. Dak Hampton, Ibuka to rookies
1:59:57
there, George Pickens and Jake Ferguson.
1:59:59
Lots of Cowboys. Dobber in the dirt.
2:00:00
Jarrett's lineup. All right, let's go to Tommy.
2:00:05
Give me Kayla Williams, Josh Jacobs, give me McMillan and
2:00:13
then I should have $3. Give me.
2:00:19
Like a serial. Killer, You know what?
2:00:21
No. Give me you know.
2:00:23
Yeah. OK, we'll do Godwin and then
2:00:24
Musgrave. I was going to do Keenan Allen
2:00:26
instead. Of all right.
2:00:27
Caleb, I hope not. Caleb Williams, Josh Jacobs,
2:00:30
McMillan, Chris Godwin and Luke Musgrave.
2:00:33
All right, I'll go. I'll go next for this one.
2:00:35
I'll take Justin Herbert at $2. I will take.
2:00:39
I'll take Swift for three. I'll take CD Lamb.
2:00:43
I will take. I got 35 left, so I will take
2:00:50
Moore and Gadsen. All right, Jabba.
2:00:57
I'm going to take Herbert with you, then I'm going to take
2:01:02
DeAndre Swift thickness, then I'm going to go McMillan.
2:01:08
Again, I'm anal. That gives me 6 left.
2:01:11
Poor bag. Then I'm going to go and he.
2:01:17
Buffed everything out. Chris Godwin and then all.
2:01:24
Right. So same same first two as me,
2:01:27
Herbert, Swift, McMillan that makes 9, Godwin 11 and Loveland
2:01:32
at 15 and Errol the round it out.
2:01:34
All right, who's Baker playing Caroline?
2:01:36
Caroline. All right, I'm going to go.
2:01:37
It's going to be a big week for the bake man.
2:01:40
I'm going to go with Baker Mayfield.
2:01:43
I'm going to go definitely going with CD Lamb.
2:01:50
Actually, I don't want to go with CD Lamb because I hope he
2:01:52
doesn't play well because I'm playing you and.
2:01:54
I also have Baker too. So I I'm not going with CD Lamb.
2:01:57
I'm going for the reverse. Jinx, I don't want.
2:01:59
I don't want to go with him. I'm going to go with McMillan.
2:02:03
I'm going to go with Mike Evans because I think he's going to
2:02:05
have a big day. How many points do I have?
2:02:08
So you're keeping Baker? I'm keeping Baker.
2:02:10
So that's 10 right now running back and tight end as you got
2:02:14
left you got 5 all. Right.
2:02:18
I'm going to go. I'm going to go with Dowdle and
2:02:22
how many points. Do I got 3 left?
2:02:23
All right, I'll go with. I guess I'm going with Kate on.
2:02:30
All right, Gatson's my tight end.
2:02:32
Sorry. This week.
2:02:33
It's interesting. I have Baker and CD Lim and
2:02:35
Gatson against you on this board, but you're boarded.
2:02:39
Baker, your board is. Dowdle, your board is McMillan,
2:02:44
Mike Evans and K dot one of each number to go with.
2:02:47
There you go. I think it's great.
2:02:49
And throw you a bone, if you know what I mean.
2:02:52
You got to put your tongue on something.
2:02:54
Somebody's got to put a tongue on something.
2:02:55
And hopefully you don't put your tongue on the old myth.
2:02:59
No, I will definitely never do that.
2:03:01
And and by the way, you know. Ball bag.
2:03:04
Somebody is not playing with Nathan's ball bag tonight and
2:03:07
it's definitely not going to be Jabba.
2:03:09
Jabba doesn't play ball bags. The only ball bag Jabba's going
2:03:14
to be playing with is the one in his glove, right, Jabba?
2:03:21
Oh, he has a glove. That's why I said it.
2:03:24
That's why I think. Jabba's going to sign a minor
2:03:26
league deal with the Yankees. Invite with you spring training.
2:03:29
I like Angel. Did you not see the Rich Eisen
2:03:32
show retweets and shit today? It was kind of funny.
2:03:36
Jabba takes it up the ass. Hey only only during my life
2:03:42
insurance policy where I take. Ram Jam all.
2:03:50
Right, ladies and gentlemen, that was the your very first
2:03:54
savior tears without the Fishman, but.
2:03:57
Where's the Fishman, by the way? So.
2:03:58
Fish is dealing with family stuff.
2:04:01
His dog. His dog is very sick.
2:04:04
He had to rush him to the hospital and the doggy hospital.
2:04:10
Hopefully his dog is doing well. I know it's fish is his dog is.
2:04:16
His dogs are his, you know, his kids and yeah, him and his wife
2:04:21
are, you know, they ran to the hospital.
2:04:23
His dog ate cookies, chocolate chip cookies.
2:04:26
Oh. My God and.
2:04:28
You know, if anybody knows or doesn't know that you dogs are
2:04:31
not allowed to eat chocolate. So he rushed the dog to the
2:04:37
hospital. Hopefully the dog is doing
2:04:38
better. My heart goes out to the family.
2:04:40
Hopefully everything is OK. I don't Fish wanted to be here.
2:04:44
So for all the fans that were expecting Fish to be here, don't
2:04:48
worry, you still got me and you got job.
2:04:51
And now you've got Nissan. Put put a mob.
2:04:57
Goody has no woody. Or my favorite.
2:05:00
One, I love Lisa Ann or Yeah, this one.
2:05:03
Breaking news. I need Brittany also.
2:05:07
Yeah, do you want to jerk me off or I got to go back off now?
2:05:11
Which he probably does every single night job.
2:05:13
Anyways, that was save your tears.
2:05:17
Now, ladies and gentlemen, we've got Speedy's 6 pack of the week.
2:05:23
Let's have a sensor. Hey, who wants to play?
2:05:26
Drink the beer. It's time for the Speedy 6 pack
2:05:29
of the Way. Oh, that's a nice loud burp.
2:05:34
Goody has no woody. All right, so we're still
2:05:38
waiting on Wes. He said he should be able to
2:05:39
come in in a bit, but we'll start with the prime time game
2:05:43
because we'll wait on Wesley. I know he doesn't like the prime
2:05:46
time games. We'll go to the Patriots at the
2:05:48
Ravens to start Glory Hole. The Ravens are 3 1/2 point
2:05:52
favorites at home and I will take them in this spot, I think.
2:05:54
It's a. Desperation game for them the
2:05:56
Steelers won last week, so they're trying to just keep pace
2:05:59
in the division. I think the Ravens defense has
2:06:01
played a little better in the second-half of the season and I
2:06:03
think the Patriots will be or the Ravens will be able to stop
2:06:07
the run, unlike a. Building like a serial killer,
2:06:09
so. I'm going to take the Ravens
2:06:10
here in the spot. I'll let you lick my butt.
2:06:12
I guess we'll go to, we'll go to Nathan.
2:06:14
Speaking of dogs, there's Jabba's dog.
2:06:18
Yeah, that's a go. Oh wow.
2:06:19
I thought, right, this shit. He loves his dog.
2:06:23
What? What's your dog's name?
2:06:24
Jabba Bailey. Bailey I I remember you told.
2:06:30
Me. He Bailey.
2:06:30
Said stuff. Did he go go to a different go
2:06:34
to arrow first it? Kind of.
2:06:36
It kind of looks like you. It looks like you.
2:06:39
I think, I think you're related. I think there's there's
2:06:42
definitely some kind of relation right there.
2:06:43
You're going to go to me. I'm the last guy to go.
2:06:45
He's the last to go, Nathan, I said.
2:06:47
You're next. You're next.
2:06:48
Patriots at Ravens Ravens are three.
2:06:50
Point favorites at. I got, I got, I got the
2:06:52
Patriots. I think they're playing at a
2:06:54
high level and they're a Super Bowl contender.
2:06:56
And Mike Rayville obviously changing this culture at the
2:06:59
Patriots team. And obviously Drake Mays playing
2:07:01
like MVP. So I've got the winning against
2:07:03
the Ravens. I'll let you lick my butt all.
2:07:06
Right to the coin. A lot of hot ladies.
2:07:13
Heads. All right, Java is on the Ravens
2:07:16
to cover the spread -3. All I definitely there's
2:07:19
something that tells me the Ravens are going to win this
2:07:21
game and they're going to play it.
2:07:24
It's going to be very, very close.
2:07:25
I think it'll be back and forth, but I think Lamar Jackson's
2:07:28
going to prove himself. Oh, look at this.
2:07:29
Look at this run by Walker touchdown.
2:07:32
Now Seattle takes the lead and they're up.
2:07:36
Well, they will be up 14 to 13, but yeah, I've got the Baltimore
2:07:41
Ravens winning in a close one. All right, we'll go to the
2:07:45
Buccaneers at the Panthers, one of the games mentioned in Savior
2:07:48
tears. The Bucks are three-point
2:07:49
favorites on the road at Carolina.
2:07:51
Carolina again, it's tough to figure out.
2:07:53
They've beaten some good teams and then they've got swept by
2:07:55
the Saints. The Buccaneers don't look like
2:07:56
the same team right now. I've if I was actually betting,
2:08:00
I would probably bet the under. I think this is kind of a sloppy
2:08:02
game. I'm worried about Baker even
2:08:04
playing him, but I I'll take the Bucks in the spot to win a tight
2:08:07
one. Well, I I I got the Bucks also,
2:08:12
I think, aren't they still fighting for a playoff spot?
2:08:16
Buckingham. Both yes, teams are both this is
2:08:19
a big game for both teams. All right.
2:08:20
I got the I got the Buccaneers. I think they have more
2:08:23
experience. Panthers is still young team.
2:08:26
Yeah, I got I got the Buccaneers over the Panthers.
2:08:33
Oh, I got tails. Oh, all right.
2:08:35
Jabba on the Bucks. I got the Bucks.
2:08:40
I I think Mike Evans is going to have an explosive week.
2:08:43
He looked pretty good last week. As long as he plays, I expect
2:08:46
him to put up at least 100 yards and a touchdown.
2:08:49
He's been he's in very important to their offense and you saw it
2:08:53
last week how important he is. Even though they lost, you can
2:08:56
see what Mike Evans could do on the football field.
2:08:58
So give me the Bucks. All right, we got, we got Wes in
2:09:01
the studio now with us. Oh, it is Roll Tide for for
2:09:05
tomorrow's game. And Yum Yum.
2:09:06
I do have to mention Wesa did send this to me earlier.
2:09:09
He actually. Now he.
2:09:10
Actually now has a book out right.
2:09:12
Here. Disciplined sports betting Wes,
2:09:15
you want to give a little bit of a sneak peek on that?
2:09:19
Yeah, you know, I've, I've been working on this thing since
2:09:21
COVID and in the last couple weeks I, I got serious about it.
2:09:24
But it it is, it is not going to tell you what to bet or, or when
2:09:29
to bet it. It is not giving you pics.
2:09:31
It is, it is about how to how to look at this thing as as a
2:09:34
business. I draw some comparisons to, you
2:09:39
know, your 4-O1K and the, and the percentages that it would go
2:09:43
up and what would satisfy you versus the mentality of what
2:09:46
people are looking to do with sports betting.
2:09:48
And you know, it put some structure behind it, some pay
2:09:52
yourself activity, how to reinvest and up your bets.
2:09:57
But then there's, there's some cool chapters with the seven
2:10:00
deadly sins of sports betting and the 10 commandments of
2:10:03
sports betting. And I even get into how to break
2:10:08
down a weekly portfolio, how football season is a different
2:10:11
approach than basketball season. It just put some discipline and
2:10:14
structure and, and some guardrails behind how to
2:10:18
approach it. I see a lot of people and for
2:10:20
years you guys have heard me talk about unit management, but,
2:10:23
but I see a lot of people, you know, they, they, they deposit
2:10:25
$100 into an account, They place one bet for 50 bucks, they place
2:10:29
another for 25 and another for 10.
2:10:31
And then they are out of money and they're wondering how and
2:10:35
why. And, you know, there's just no
2:10:38
structure to it. And so this gives it a a
2:10:41
business like approach. You invest in your sports
2:10:44
betting account and you treat it the same way that you would
2:10:47
treat a business. And and you know, I've been
2:10:50
doing unit management strategies like this for years.
2:10:54
I don't think I've made a deposit into my sports betting
2:10:57
account in about 18 months and that was probably for, you know,
2:11:02
a reason, not because of a bust. But your average person is
2:11:06
betting these four way parlays. And you know, I'd like to offer
2:11:09
people some help with that and see if we can take some money
2:11:12
from the casino instead of giving, giving them more, making
2:11:16
them fatter. Where can we find it was?
2:11:20
So it in the next few days it's going to be on Amazon in Kindle
2:11:24
softcover and hardcover. Tomorrow I am going to get my
2:11:29
own personal marketplace landing page up and running.
2:11:32
But Arrow and I are working together on how we can get the
2:11:35
download PDF e-book version of it for all the listeners and,
2:11:40
and in this group. So we here in the next 48 hours,
2:11:44
we should be able to sell it on this worldwide Sports Radio
2:11:48
Network page. And we're going to, we're going
2:11:50
to push it out there that way. If you're a betting man or woman
2:11:54
and you want to learn how to bed, this is the book to check
2:11:57
out and and Glass is one of the best we've ever had on this
2:12:00
show. This guy during the CFL season,
2:12:04
this guy is usually the year before, last of this past year
2:12:07
he was at almost 70%. This year he was in the 60s.
2:12:10
I think he was 68 or 66%. The guy knows how to bet and if
2:12:15
you guys or girls love or want to make money for you and your
2:12:19
families and you want to, you want to bring in some extra
2:12:22
money on the side, well, this is the book to go and get.
2:12:25
So I'm we're going to work on something.
2:12:27
It's going to be up on the website and you guys can check
2:12:29
it out PDF and you can read it or you can have it read to you
2:12:34
so. All right, I do have to give my
2:12:37
oblatory shocker to Wes. Thank you very much.
2:12:41
I appreciate that. Appreciate the shout out to the
2:12:45
book. Wes, Congrats on the book and by
2:12:48
the way, nice meeting you for the first time here.
2:12:51
I'm the I'm the PR manager for the show.
2:12:53
So nice meeting you virtually so.
2:12:55
Awesome. Appreciate it.
2:12:57
Thank you. All right, appreciate all the
2:12:59
all the kindness. All right, my friend, we got two
2:13:02
games that you didn't. You didn't give us your
2:13:05
winnings. So speedy the 1st 2 that you
2:13:08
were the Patriots at the Ravens. The Ravens are three-point
2:13:10
favorites and then the Bucks 3 point Rd. favorites at the
2:13:13
Panthers are the first two of my 6.
2:13:18
This is to me. Yes, yes, these are the 1st 2:00
2:13:20
and then we got four more. Running after that.
2:13:24
I like the Ravens. This is a really weird one that
2:13:26
the Ravens are favorite, but this thing opened at 8 1/2 and
2:13:30
somehow has found its way to -3 There's just been so much
2:13:35
action, public and sharp on New England.
2:13:39
This is one of those WTF lines when it first comes out.
2:13:43
It's still Lamar, it's it's still Henry.
2:13:47
I really like the Ravens in this spot.
2:13:49
They only have to lay three at home in in A and they they just
2:13:54
came off of a confidence building type of division win 24
2:13:57
to nothing. It's easy to say that was
2:14:00
because it was against the Bengals who are falling apart.
2:14:03
But I I believe that the Ravens are going to show up here.
2:14:06
I don't think New England gets exposed.
2:14:07
They're still a great team, but I like this spot for the Ravens
2:14:10
-3 all. Right.
2:14:11
And then the Bucks Rd. favorites at the Panthers.
2:14:15
Yeah, so I like the Panthers in this game.
2:14:17
I don't like this Bucks team. I I just, I don't very much care
2:14:21
for this version of the Bucks. I think that Bryce is playing
2:14:24
good ball. I get I get a division match up
2:14:29
with something significant on the line.
2:14:32
I believe that Carolina is the better defense.
2:14:35
They just don't have names that we can recognize.
2:14:39
I think that Baker's going to be Bakers, not as much of A grown
2:14:44
up as some of these other quarterbacks in the league.
2:14:46
And I think that Baker is going to have something to prove
2:14:48
against Carolina and he's going to make mistakes.
2:14:51
He's going to force a problem that that Tampa doesn't need.
2:14:55
And so I like Carolina outright in this game and that will be a
2:14:58
true play of mine to take some money line on this.
2:15:01
All right, let's go to the Pittsburgh Steelers at the
2:15:03
Detroit Lions. Kind of desperation for both
2:15:06
these teams. All the Steelers trying to hang
2:15:07
on the division, the Lions fighting for a playoff.
2:15:09
Lions are 6 point favorites. I think there's too many points.
2:15:11
I think they will win the game, but I think it is closer.
2:15:13
So I'm going to take the Steelers to cover, the Lions to
2:15:16
win. All right, Wes, you'll go second
2:15:17
for the rest of this rotation and then we'll go to Nathan,
2:15:20
Jabba and then Errol. Yeah, the so at 7:00, I would
2:15:25
have been at the Steelers. Pete, you're talking about 6
2:15:28
1/2. Yeah, I have 6 1/2.
2:15:30
I looked on Vegas Insider. I don't know where you were
2:15:32
looking at, but. Yeah, this is this is a
2:15:35
situation where if you look at when Detroit wins, how they win
2:15:40
is typically big or bigger than 6 1/2.
2:15:44
You got them beating the Commanders 44 to 22.
2:15:47
You got them beating Dallas 44 to 30.
2:15:49
You can go back to 24 to 9 against the buckle before the
2:15:52
bye week. So, so typically when they win,
2:15:56
it is by a touchdown or more. If they don't win by more than a
2:15:59
touchdown, they're not winning. So if you are of the belief that
2:16:03
Detroit is the winner here, then they will cover this spread and
2:16:06
I believe Detroit will win. Pittsburgh's defense is very,
2:16:10
very not good. So I'm I'm going to lay the
2:16:13
points and take Detroit here and this will be also one of my
2:16:16
cost. All.
2:16:17
Right Ness, what do you got? I got I got Detroit Lions.
2:16:21
I think both both teams are fighting for a playoff spot and
2:16:25
I think with the Detroit, the Detroit's win against Dallas and
2:16:29
putting up 44 points and they and also their defensive
2:16:32
coordinator had a game plan already set for Dallas and they
2:16:35
did a better job of SE bigger than So I think I got I think
2:16:40
the Lions will beat the Steelers and and they have more some they
2:16:42
have they're fighting for for something more and also the
2:16:46
Steelers. But Detroit has found right now
2:16:49
my opinion. All right, So the coin, all
2:16:57
right, couldn't see it very well.
2:16:59
Java, can you show it again with the bigger screen?
2:17:01
Looks like it's a tails. Yep, looks like that way.
2:17:04
All right, so Java is on the Steelers to cover.
2:17:08
Yeah, I got the lions. I think the lions are going to
2:17:10
be explosive, and I and Jameer Gibbs did not have a big week.
2:17:14
If you're a fantasy owner, bet Jameer Gibbs he's going to have
2:17:19
a big day. Stuff them.
2:17:22
Not going to happen. All right, Chargers at the
2:17:24
Cowboys. We'll go on to next Chargers 1
2:17:27
1/2 point favorites. I know I picked Justin Herbert
2:17:29
and save your tears, but I do think Dallas does win this game.
2:17:31
I think they're going to fight to the end to try to stay alive
2:17:33
in this division with the Eagles.
2:17:34
The Chargers, they've been hot for a while.
2:17:36
They've played very well amidst the injuries.
2:17:37
But I think Dallas gets them here.
2:17:38
Give me the Cowboys. Get it, Wes?
2:17:44
Yeah, this one is a real struggle, right?
2:17:48
Because because the Chargers, they barely want a game.
2:17:52
I mean, I realized that that God, I this one's a struggle,
2:17:59
but I am going to take the Chargers because they actually
2:18:01
believe in playing defense. And Herbert, I saw Herbert play
2:18:06
live. And I mean, the dude just gets
2:18:09
rid of the ball really quickly. And he is a big guy.
2:18:12
Like, like, I mean, that is a big quarterback.
2:18:15
He looked bigger than Josh Allen.
2:18:19
I realize that's not a reason to take a team but but the Chargers
2:18:22
just simply play better defense. Dallas is usually good for 30
2:18:25
but the Chargers don't allow 30 so and the and the spread is
2:18:31
nothing. Give give me the Chargers.
2:18:34
Nathan, you take your Cowboys or you're going up with the.
2:18:36
Chargers. I mean, look, this is a tough
2:18:38
one because you know, the Cowboys, the Cowboys, the the
2:18:42
Detroit game was big for them. I they met they they they had
2:18:46
that was a big game. But now they also, so being you
2:18:50
need the Eagles to lose basically all their games, but
2:18:52
they got the commanders, Eagles got the Commanders place and
2:18:56
obviously David Daniels is not playing.
2:18:57
So I don't think it's going to work out for the Cowboys.
2:19:01
So I got the Chargers winning this game.
2:19:04
I think they have a much better team right now and I like just I
2:19:09
got the Chargers winning, OK. I got to say something with you,
2:19:13
Nathan. You.
2:19:14
You just. Give us your pick and you're
2:19:16
like all over the place. You on this segment, he has to
2:19:21
make it smart. I'm like Sydney, I'm like, go
2:19:25
ahead, spit the damn thing out. We.
2:19:27
Also take over a role for fish. It has to do it in this segment.
2:19:31
It goes from one place to another.
2:19:33
Let's go to A-Z. So we get made.
2:19:40
Went up for the time on the coin though.
2:19:43
Yeah, well, now you threw me off.
2:19:46
With. Where'd my coin go?
2:19:50
Nathan, I think you hypnotized him.
2:19:52
Yeah. Carl plays with himself.
2:19:54
Don't worry, I got it. All right.
2:19:57
Here we go. Head's always at home.
2:20:02
All right, night Java is on the Cowboys and Errol will round it
2:20:05
out. I'm going to go.
2:20:07
I think the Cowboys aren't playing for anything.
2:20:10
So if they're not playing for anything, and it seems like, I
2:20:13
mean, they're still kind, are they still in it?
2:20:15
I think they are. Still in it they.
2:20:17
Have to win the Eagles. That's not going to have a small
2:20:20
chance. I have the Chargers winning the
2:20:22
game. All right, we'll go to the
2:20:24
Jaguars at the Broncos. The Broncos are 5 1/2 point
2:20:27
favorites at home. I will take them to cover the
2:20:28
spread. I know their offense hasn't been
2:20:30
overly great, but I do think this is Jacksonville, a warm
2:20:33
weather team traveling there. It's going to be it's going to
2:20:35
be cold in Denver, that altitude.
2:20:37
Trevor Lawrence, a warm weather quarterback.
2:20:39
Give me Denver here. This makes my pecker hard all.
2:20:43
Right, Wes? 5 1/2 favorites.
2:20:45
For the. Broncos 5 1/2 is a lot of
2:20:48
points, and if this was a year ago, six months ago, even summer
2:20:53
before the season started, I wouldn't be saying this about
2:20:56
Trevor Lawrence. But I believe right now that the
2:20:59
Broncos are about to play the best quarterback they've seen in
2:21:01
quite some time. And and keep in mind the Chiefs
2:21:05
season ticket holder, I'm throwing Patrick Mahomes out the
2:21:08
window and calling Trevor Lawrence a better quarterback.
2:21:10
Currently right now, Trevor is is playing really well.
2:21:14
And if you look at who the Jags have been playing, Liam Cohen is
2:21:19
got this team ready to play against good defenses.
2:21:23
So Denver's coming off a really big win.
2:21:27
I don't believe that Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence belong in
2:21:30
the same conversation right now. I think Trevor is Trevor is is
2:21:34
taken off with his feet when he should, which is where he's
2:21:37
dangerous. He he's got the same arm he
2:21:40
always has, but he's really seeing the field.
2:21:42
And if you just look at how the Jags did earlier in the season
2:21:45
against the Houston defense, they they absolutely have.
2:21:49
I mean, they smoked the charters earlier in the season that deep.
2:21:52
That's another good defense. So I like the way that
2:21:55
Jacksonville gets the team ready for good defenses.
2:21:59
And I don't believe that Denver has seen a quarterback like the
2:22:01
way that Trevor is playing right now.
2:22:03
And this game has true meaning. I am taking 5 1/2 points.
2:22:07
Don't know who wins but 5 1/2 is too many and I'm taking
2:22:10
Jacksonville. Yeah, it's the same time I got
2:22:13
the Jaguars also. Thank God finally he's figured
2:22:18
it out. Jabba.
2:22:21
Shit. I.
2:22:26
Was on his son's team, the Broncos.
2:22:27
Yeah, I got the Broncos too. I think it'll be close.
2:22:30
I'm not a Jaguars fan and I don't believe in treble more,
2:22:33
even though we kicked the crap out of The Jets last week.
2:22:36
So yeah, I'm going Broncos. All right, final one will be
2:22:39
West Side, the team you rooted for when you were growing up,
2:22:41
the Chicago Bears. Hosting the.
2:22:43
Green Bay Packers the Bears are currently one point favorite.
2:22:45
This spread I think started with the Packers ahead and then the
2:22:48
Bears I think are now the favorites.
2:22:49
Good for you. Basically, I pick them in this
2:22:51
spot though. I think the pressure, I think
2:22:54
the Packers have handled the pressure a little more obviously
2:22:56
with Jordan Love in this core right now.
2:22:58
Chicago's win, they won a lot of close games.
2:23:00
I think they're due to lose 1 tight one here.
2:23:02
So even with Parsons out, I am going to take the Packers. 1.
2:23:08
The Bears have some injuries at wide receiver, so that concerns
2:23:13
me here coming off of the the performance that the Bears had
2:23:16
against the Packers the last time they played.
2:23:19
These two teams are both at a quality where you would expect a
2:23:22
split in the division. The Packers are coming off of
2:23:26
something of an embarrassing loss.
2:23:28
They don't have like a Parsons and the Bears are coming off of
2:23:32
a situation or they're going into a situation where it it's
2:23:37
it's looking like a doomsday. He's not going to play and and
2:23:39
Burden might possibly be a game time decision.
2:23:44
I'm still going to take the Bears here just because the
2:23:47
Packers will not be able to get the same pressure on Caleb
2:23:50
Williams. And Caleb is very responsible
2:23:53
with the football. Like normally with quarterbacks
2:23:55
that are trying to find their way.
2:23:56
They're reckless and they throw picks and commit turnovers.
2:23:59
Caleb has not done that at all. So I don't have to lay very many
2:24:04
points. This one's in Chicago, I think.
2:24:08
I think this rivalry is due for a split and and the Bears are a
2:24:11
very good team. Freaking daily lives.
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I got, I got the, I got the Bears.
2:24:20
I think the bears, obviously they're a great team.
2:24:22
So I got I got the spout Bears all.
2:24:24
Right, we got to the coin. Tail.
2:24:31
All right, Java's on the Packers.
2:24:33
Yeah, I'm definitely going with the pack.
2:24:35
I I can't see the Bears winning, I can't see the pairs wedding,
2:24:39
so I'm going with the pack again. back-to-back games, baby.
2:24:42
back-to-back games. Give me the pack.
2:24:44
All right, that's it for this week of Speedy 6 Pack.
2:24:47
And I will say, and I think I think the fact that losing
2:24:51
Michael Parsons and, and I know everybody keeps saying that
2:24:55
because they lost Michael Parsons, they they're not going
2:24:58
to have a chance to go to the Super Bowl this year.
2:25:00
I think they're going to play even better because Michael
2:25:02
Parsons gone. They're going to find ways to
2:25:04
put more pressure on the quarterbacks who they're playing
2:25:07
against. I think Caleb Williams is going
2:25:09
to be running for his dear life. And I know a guy like Wes is not
2:25:13
going to want to hear this because he is a Bears fan.
2:25:15
But I think this is I think the Packers are going to win.
2:25:19
I still think the Bears are going to win the division, but I
2:25:22
think the Packers win. So there you go.
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I am. I am.
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Let's get it. Give us your top. 4 Let's go.
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We're going to do NFL. Yeah, we're going to do NFL
2:27:43
first, and I talked about it on our prior segment.
2:27:45
But I one of my hottest plays of the week is the Jacksonville
2:27:48
Jaguars at at 5 1/2. I get to, I get the points here.
2:27:54
A sneaky stat that nobody quite realizes is Jacksonville Jaguars
2:27:59
are #1 or #2 in rush defense and rushing yardage allowed.
2:28:05
Which is wild to think that when you're playing against Denver,
2:28:09
if they put Phoenix in an awkward position, right?
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Phoenix has been the biggest question mark that the media has
2:28:14
that fans have against Denver. You know, has he proven this?
2:28:19
Can you do it on a stage? Well, when you're playing
2:28:23
against the number one rushing defense in the in the league,
2:28:26
there is no escape route. Bonex has to be the thing that
2:28:29
scores the point. So I really like that component
2:28:32
of Jacksonville. I truly believe that Trevor
2:28:34
Lawrence right now is playing like a top five quarterback.
2:28:37
And I'm giving the credit to the to the coach Liam Cohn, who
2:28:41
ready he's he's playing loose. He's using his legs.
2:28:45
I don't know that Jacksonville wins the game, but I think 5 1/2
2:28:47
is too many, especially coming off of that huge spot that
2:28:51
Denver was just in in that Packers game.
2:28:54
So I also think that if Micah Parsons finished that game, it
2:28:59
would have looked a little bit different too for for Denver.
2:29:01
So give me the 5 1/2 points on what I believe is a very
2:29:05
impressive Jags. All right, give us your number
2:29:08
2. Let's go to college.
2:29:11
I'm going to pull it up real quick.
2:29:12
I want to make sure that I have my notes.
2:29:14
A lot of meaningless football games going on in college and a
2:29:21
lot of meaningless football games going on in college and I
2:29:24
am going to jump on a meaningful 1 and I'm wearing this shirt and
2:29:26
I'm going to take Alabama. I that was a close game in other
2:29:32
than a few moments that that really changed the game.
2:29:34
I don't understand this controversy with Caitlin de Boer
2:29:37
and where he's going. He's the coach of Alabama.
2:29:40
There's there. The university in Ann Arbor is
2:29:44
not a better job right now. There is some ugliness that
2:29:47
needs to be cleaned up. I don't get it.
2:29:50
I think that there's some players on that Alabama roster
2:29:53
that are just, they weigh outclass what the Oklahoma
2:29:57
players can do now. They don't feel like a Oklahoma
2:30:02
team of the past. But we're talking about 1 1/2
2:30:06
points. I like Bama by a touchdown in
2:30:08
this situation. Caitlin De Boer has been in
2:30:11
playoff scenarios before. I think that if we get to a
2:30:14
place where where to Oklahoma needs some points versus needing
2:30:17
a stop, Bren Venables isn't going to know what to do in
2:30:20
those scenarios. I think that Mitts here might be
2:30:24
a little confused in this game, although I do think he's the
2:30:26
best quarterback in the country. I think that he is better than
2:30:29
the gentleman that just won the Heisman.
2:30:30
Arrow you and I had to talk offline about that, but but give
2:30:33
me Bam and I'm going to lay 1 1/2.
2:30:35
We did a call your shot last week.
2:30:36
We make predictions. I predicted either one of those
2:30:38
teams to beat Indiana. All right, give me your #3.
2:30:43
I'm staying in college and this is one that people might not
2:30:47
agree with, but I am taking Miami outright to win the game.
2:30:51
The smart play is that you take the 3 1/2 points, but this is
2:30:54
11:00. This is this is in College
2:30:57
Station. So it's going to be over 100K
2:30:59
fans. It's going to be loud.
2:31:01
The building is going to be shaking and all of those things.
2:31:04
But I got to say it, yes, Texas A&M when 11 and 1, you have to
2:31:10
look at who they did it against. They barely beat Notre Dame,
2:31:13
who's not a playoff team right now.
2:31:14
And they allowed forty points out of Notre Dame earlier in the
2:31:17
season. That is the big win that they're
2:31:19
hanging their hat on. They played against a very weak
2:31:22
SEC schedule. They're, they're getting credit
2:31:25
for going to LSU, which was a very broken team, really broken
2:31:30
team led by an ass clown that got fired.
2:31:35
You're, you're looking at, you know, they're getting credit for
2:31:38
beating #22 Missouri. I speedy is Missouri even ranked
2:31:42
right now? They went.
2:31:45
They they played. 31 to 30 against South Carolina.
2:31:49
I'm sorry, Carson Beck or not, this Miami team is dangerous.
2:31:54
And so I, I think Miami's going to go into this, this game and
2:31:59
I, I believe that it might be close for a minute and then it's
2:32:03
just going to be belt to booty and, and Miami is going to take
2:32:08
over this game. And as a as a die hard Buckeye
2:32:12
fan, I am welcoming Miami to to buck around and find out.
2:32:20
All right, give us your final pick of the week.
2:32:25
Final pick, I got to go back to it, so this is a strange one,
2:32:34
but I'm going to go to the FCS and this is a rivalry game and
2:32:41
these two teams are playing each other again, Montana and Montana
2:32:45
State. I'm actually going to take
2:32:47
Montana State in this game. They are, I apologize, I'm
2:32:52
taking Montana in this game. I'm taking the 5 1/2 points they
2:32:56
won last game. They are the better team.
2:32:59
Somehow there are 5 5 1/2 point dog I'm taking the Grizz in a
2:33:03
playoff rivalry FCS game. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
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Yes. Did you do, coward?
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I didn't do that yet, but I'm going to do that.
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I know you want me to to go after Colin Cowherd and I am
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That is one of my stories this coming weekend I'm going to
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what and he's earned his stripes as a broadcaster and what he's
2:41:11
done in the game and what I think that that does and, and
2:41:14
how it rules in the aspect of what we are as athletes, where
2:41:18
now we have a voice where we don't have to hide what we are.
2:41:21
We just call it the way we see it and it carries weight.
2:41:25
And The thing is like players now, which, which kind of sucks
2:41:29
when Kuka says things like he sells to play the game, But when
2:41:33
you see it from the aspect of a Hall of Famer, of somebody that
2:41:36
has done what they've done, that's what I love.
2:41:40
Because dudes are stepping out of their realm of being a player
2:41:43
because we're not a player anymore.
2:41:45
It's not about us anymore. It's about just calling it the
2:41:48
way we see it. And if it's bullshit, it's
2:41:50
bullshit. And that's not saying that
2:41:54
they're bad, good or indifferent, but you're saying
2:41:57
what you feel in the game of what it is.
2:41:59
And what we do allows us could be great on the field and now
2:42:05
off the field, it allows us to do that.
2:42:07
And that is what rules about what we get to do is.
2:42:10
We get to be authentically ourselves without any.
2:42:14
And if you don't like it, you don't like it, you don't have to
2:42:15
listen. If you don't like it, turn it
2:42:17
off. You don't like what he's saying,
2:42:19
you ain't got to watch his broadcast.
2:42:20
Put it. On that chicken Curry.
2:42:23
Don't like chicken Curry but that's fine, that's why I don't
2:42:27
eat it. So my point is to that is you
2:42:30
don't have to listen, but what I love about it and what rules is,
2:42:33
is they're giving us an aspect to do that.
2:42:36
And I think that was really great about what sports has
2:42:38
allowed us to do now. Noble fisting.
2:42:42
So, ladies and gentlemen, that's Jabba.
2:42:49
Rules as in like taking a drink of water and not trying to spit
2:42:52
it out They. Lit a lot of that after eating
2:42:55
Nothing's chicken Curry. No knock.
2:42:58
My ass. My chef when I was playing, it
2:43:02
was literally like we had the dye and everything and he tried,
2:43:05
he made it and it, it, it was good.
2:43:09
But like just this, I, I just, it wasn't my cup of tea.
2:43:13
It was not. Well, I I would agree.
2:43:16
With you, we love you, but that's just, that's not my cup
2:43:18
of tea. I would agree with you with Troy
2:43:20
Aikman. I think Troy Aikman says what he
2:43:22
feels and and that's what makes Troy Aikman one of the better
2:43:25
broadcasters in the industry. And I don't think he was wrong.
2:43:29
I thought the calls were horrible.
2:43:30
And last week, the calls when it came to the referees, there were
2:43:33
quite a few players on social media that attacked the referees
2:43:37
and think that the NFL is behind it and that they're trying to to
2:43:40
make the game stand out and it doesn't really make the game
2:43:43
stand. Out I'll get one of our referees
2:43:45
when we get to like the Sweet 16 everything and he's done that.
2:43:49
He goes, the best job I can do is to not be a part of the game.
2:43:55
And that's that's literally like everything that we see.
2:43:59
Like when they're not a part of the game and where it's not like
2:44:03
we're questioning. And when you have somebody of
2:44:06
traegeman status, like saying that, do they really listen,
2:44:10
though? Do they really listen and be
2:44:12
like, OK, if if somebody like that saying it, it's not our
2:44:16
dumbasses that have these shows and do everything that are
2:44:19
armchair quarterbacks, right? You have a dude that has done it
2:44:23
and he, he, he's calling you all out.
2:44:26
He's not doing it because he he has anything in the game because
2:44:29
his paycheck clears every two weeks or however they get paid.
2:44:33
He's saying it because he's seen the game, he's played the game.
2:44:36
And I love that I get an aspect of not only playing the game,
2:44:40
but also being a father, watching the game, where the
2:44:44
best games ever played are ones where you don't worry about who
2:44:48
the hell is umpiring, reffing, officiating.
2:44:52
The game is decided based upon who won or lost the game, not
2:44:57
when it comes down to who's making a decision.
2:44:59
You heard? Tim Donaghy, he's been on the
2:45:02
show and he says it's, it's it, it's definitely the league's
2:45:05
control what is going on in the back end.
2:45:07
And, and I believe it's true. I really believe that the league
2:45:13
knows or they believe who's going to the Super Bowl.
2:45:15
I believe that it's all about business.
2:45:17
Now, this has nothing to do with who's better, who's the better
2:45:21
team. It's just a matter of what kind
2:45:23
of money the league is going to bring in.
2:45:25
And I think the referees are part of it.
2:45:27
I know everybody says, how do you how does this all fall
2:45:30
together? How does this make sense?
2:45:31
How how is the game? You know, obviously what, what,
2:45:35
what would we say this speedy? How would we?
2:45:36
How would we call this The game is what?
2:45:40
Really you would say you would say in that case controlling the
2:45:42
outcome rigged or scripted? And I I, how is the game?
2:45:45
That's the best way. How is the game scripted?
2:45:47
And I believe the game is scripted because the NFL or in
2:45:52
any sport, the referees have control the game.
2:45:55
It all it takes in football, all it takes is one play, one play
2:45:59
in a game and one bad call that could cost the team a game.
2:46:03
That's how close it is. That's how close the bad teams
2:46:06
are to the good teams. It's really, really close.
2:46:08
Look at The Jets. The Jets have won three games
2:46:10
this year. They could have won eight or
2:46:12
nine games. That's how close the games were.
2:46:16
And all it takes is 1 bad play. Look, The Jets blocked a punt or
2:46:21
I'm sorry, blocked. What was it a punt or field goal
2:46:24
in in the Buccaneers game? In the Buccaneers game, they ran
2:46:27
it in for a touchdown. They were up and then the the
2:46:30
Buccaneers took it down and kicked the field goal to win the
2:46:32
game. All it took is The Jets actual.
2:46:34
How about this Justin Fields on the 50 in England where all The
2:46:39
Jets had to do was run the ball to the 45 or even the 42 yard
2:46:43
line and Nick Foles kicks kicks the field goal and The Jets win
2:46:46
that game against the Broncos. And maybe the Broncos don't win
2:46:49
10 games or 9 games in a row. So I'm I'm just saying all it
2:46:53
takes is 1 little play, 1 bad call, one stupid play by team,
2:46:57
or a referee call that can cost the team again.
2:47:00
And I think Troy Aikman is absolutely right.
2:47:02
These refs are horrible. It's horrible to watch when you
2:47:06
watch two teams fighting for a playoff spot and the refs are
2:47:09
the deciding part of the game. Jabba, you weren't here at this
2:47:12
time, but in 2023, I forget it was the show before or the show
2:47:15
after the Super Bowl. We were talking about like Arian
2:47:18
Foster having the the theory that all games are scripted and
2:47:21
he allegedly had proof and then we had a bunch of other ex NFL
2:47:23
players on that said I never had a script in my locker but there
2:47:26
were definitely some suspicious signs.
2:47:30
And and that's the hard part too, is athletes, because we
2:47:33
want to be the deciding factor, right?
2:47:35
Like, because we've gotten to that.
2:47:37
And I don't want it to be in, in any sport where it that's
2:47:43
decided. Like now we're seeing with ABS
2:47:46
that's going to happen in baseball, right?
2:47:47
Where it's now a what is it a value of of how you decipher
2:47:55
when you're going to use these challenges, right?
2:47:58
And that doesn't really come down to coaching.
2:47:59
That comes down to a decision you make.
2:48:01
Do you want to do in the second inning?
2:48:02
Do you want to sit in here? Where in in every other sport,
2:48:05
it's like, do you make a blind call?
2:48:06
I literally had a great conversation with a referee that
2:48:11
was in the Arkansas game that was happening the other day.
2:48:17
And it it was there were certain guys that we were talking about
2:48:21
and he goes, if I call it once, I have to call it every time.
2:48:24
But he goes, we want them to decide what it is.
2:48:27
I want them to decide the game. I don't want to be a part of the
2:48:29
game. And that's just that's that's a
2:48:34
great umpire. That's a great officiator.
2:48:36
That's a great whatever. It's like I'm here to
2:48:38
facilitate. I'm not here to make decisions
2:48:41
based upon what should be or shouldn't be.
2:48:47
But everybody thinks that way. Yeah, call the obvious like we
2:48:51
get that, but don't put yourself in the situation to be a part of
2:48:55
the game because you're not the deciding factor.
2:48:58
Nobody, nobody pays you guys to like to be the final.
2:49:02
Nobody's coming to watch you other than your family.
2:49:06
Nobody's buying your ref jersey number.
2:49:09
Like nobody cares about that. Like, so just be a part of it.
2:49:13
And he goes, the best games that I can do are the one and he was
2:49:16
an officiator that was the only person to call a technical foul.
2:49:22
And we've had them on the show. Don't be on again.
2:49:28
Don't get me wrong. Oh.
2:49:29
Yeah, don't I love the referees. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
2:49:33
we call this King of the Hill. And here's the King of the Hill.
2:49:37
This, Bobby, is the Beltline. You never ever hit below that.
2:49:41
Not that kind of king of the hill, you dumb ready?
2:49:44
Are. You ready?
2:49:45
This is King of the Hill. All right, so this is Jarrett's
2:49:49
last show, ladies and gentlemen, so we're happy to have him on on
2:49:53
the final King of the Hill. We're very excited and whoa, I I
2:49:58
know all the fans that love Jared.
2:49:59
I know Jabba spoke very highly of you, Jared, moving forward,
2:50:03
whenever you want to come and help out on the show, you're
2:50:06
more than welcome to just so you know, so very happy to have you
2:50:09
on King of the Hill. Speedy, you ready?
2:50:10
I am ready. So yes, it's ANBA theme, Jared
2:50:13
requested on the last show. And the first one will be about
2:50:16
the New York Knicks, and I don't know where it is in the
2:50:19
slideshow. Round one for the peasant fight.
2:50:22
The best Knicks of all time. I like this one.
2:50:26
All right, now you're the king. You could decide the order.
2:50:28
All right, let's go Jarrett first.
2:50:31
We'll go Jabba. And.
2:50:35
Poopy and let's have Nathan in. Let's let's give it a chance.
2:50:38
We'll give Nathan a chance. We're going to we're going to
2:50:40
run out of players. There haven't been in that many
2:50:42
great ones. I know, I know, that's what
2:50:45
makes it great, but I I'm a Knick fan, so I'll tell you if I
2:50:48
think they're great. They're great.
2:50:49
So I'll put it in there. So there you go.
2:50:52
Here we go. And we'll have Kniffin last.
2:50:53
All right, Go ahead, Jarrett. I'll go there with the first
2:50:58
pick. I'll go with the Nick that
2:50:59
actually won something. I'll go with Walt Frazier.
2:51:02
All time great point guard, won two championships for the
2:51:04
Knicks, Seven time All Star multi, six time all NBA2
2:51:08
championships. I think he's the greatest Nick
2:51:10
of all time. Still with the team and the
2:51:12
organization to this day as one of the best color guys in the
2:51:15
business. I'm going to go, I'm going to go
2:51:19
right now with actually was listening this morning to Dan
2:51:24
Levittard and Jalen Brunson right now.
2:51:27
It is the most beloved Nick right now.
2:51:31
And Errol, I know I might be stealing a little bit of his
2:51:34
Thunder on this because you've kind of mentioned it as well.
2:51:37
But he he's 1. You can ride the back on and,
2:51:41
and what he has done and, and how he's carried a team in what
2:51:46
he stands for and and how it works.
2:51:48
And you know what, when you're loved by the New York, it's
2:51:53
different. It's different exactly what
2:51:56
Jared's point was, is, well, Frazier was loved because he
2:51:59
won, but not only because he won because he authentically himself
2:52:04
and he hasn't changed. And we've seen that and Jaylen
2:52:07
Brunson has not. And I think in this, what last,
2:52:12
what probably said, well, I'll give it 10 years, even though he
2:52:14
hasn't played ten years. That's the best Nick that
2:52:17
they've had, that you could jump on the back and you love him.
2:52:21
Believe I'm next, right? All right.
2:52:23
So I think I'll be a fool if I don't go with Patrick Ewing
2:52:26
here. I mean, do I really have to say
2:52:28
much about Patrick Ewing? One of the best centers of all
2:52:30
time? Led the Knicks to about 13
2:52:32
straight playoff appearances. I believe, you know, a lot of
2:52:36
people would like to consider him one of the greatest Knicks
2:52:39
that never actually won, if not the greatest Knick.
2:52:41
I never actually won a ring. But you know, Patrick Ewing was
2:52:44
one of the best defensive players of the time, especially
2:52:46
during the 90s of a time which had a very tough and competitive
2:52:49
Eastern Conference. I think, you know, Patrick Ewing
2:52:52
was, I never of course got to see him play.
2:52:54
But just the legacy Patrick Ewing left, especially like I
2:52:56
said, during that time when you had the Bulls, the Pacers, the
2:52:59
Heat, all contenders in that in that series or in that that time
2:53:02
frame. So give me Patrick Ewing.
2:53:06
God Nath. Nathan.
2:53:08
You got 2, Nath? Yeah.
2:53:09
You're going back-to-back, Nath, not mute.
2:53:14
Nathan, you're on mute. Nath.
2:53:16
Hello, Nath. Yeah.
2:53:19
Can you hear us? Nath, are you frozen?
2:53:22
I think he's frozen. Oh yeah.
2:53:24
He might be. Frozen.
2:53:25
Well, Nath is gone, so no Nath. It was taken down by the king.
2:53:30
All right, so we will go. Am I going again?
2:53:33
Then you'll go again. All right then.
2:53:35
So I'm going to also, I'm going to go with another Nick.
2:53:38
I know Jared went with Frazier. I'm going to go with another
2:53:41
Nick that actually wants something.
2:53:42
I'm going to go Willis Reed. Willis Reed was definitely, I
2:53:45
would say, one of the biggest heart and souls of the team
2:53:49
during that time frame. He had a big, what's it called,
2:53:52
Game seven return, I believe. Remember watching that game
2:53:55
seven return. When he came, he went down, I
2:53:57
think it was against the Lakers, I believe.
2:53:58
But yeah, so I remember watching that heroically came back and
2:54:02
helped them win the Finals. So, you know, I'm gonna go out
2:54:05
with Mr. Willis Reed. Good.
2:54:07
Job and I'm I'm up now, right? That is you now, yeah.
2:54:12
I'm gonna go Bill Bradley and you know, 2 championships, the
2:54:18
thing they've done in in the early 70s and I I think Bill's
2:54:23
resume is deeper than just what the Knicks was obviously drafted
2:54:27
by the Knicks in the four position that he did and the
2:54:33
things that he can and not a huge name, right, But Amen, his
2:54:37
numbers retired. I mean that's that's that's
2:54:39
something to be said for a lot of things.
2:54:43
And when when you're not a super name like a Walt Fraser or
2:54:47
certain things, when you when you have that conglomerate of
2:54:49
what it is, I think that's one as as the fourth position, which
2:54:54
it wasn't really like crazy. Had a great college career
2:54:57
obviously as well. But I I think that's just one
2:55:00
when you go down, it's not a super big name, but I think
2:55:03
that's one that goes into the accolades of the things that
2:55:06
he's done. All right, Jared.
2:55:11
Jared, you got 2. All right, First I'll go on the
2:55:14
same lines of Bill Bradley. I'll stick to the to the 70s
2:55:17
teams. I'll go with Dave Debusher, one
2:55:20
of the great all time great defenders, part of both title
2:55:23
teams. One of the first big free agency
2:55:25
pickups are just acquisitions the Knicks ever made.
2:55:28
Like big names was a All Star for the Pistons as well.
2:55:32
He he he changed things to really help that championship
2:55:34
team. And then I'll go, I'm going to
2:55:37
go Charles Oakley with my last pick there.
2:55:41
There's some other big like scorers on this still left.
2:55:44
But as far as the culture of the Knicks, it's Charles Oakley.
2:55:48
That 90s team just just inbound the toughness and physicality of
2:55:51
the 90s and played a long time. I mean, and and really a big
2:55:57
role on those Knicks teams in the 90s.
2:55:58
Forget whatever Dolan has has done to him since, but he's like
2:56:03
the nick of that time period to me of when boding the team.
2:56:07
All right, job, you got 1. More I'm going to go Starks
2:56:11
because not only do I always look at what they did on the
2:56:14
court, but I look as like as a fan favorite that's still loved
2:56:18
and exactly what was brought up early with Walt Frazier that's
2:56:20
still involved in it. And John Starks was was an
2:56:24
undrafted dude right and and proved to everything that he
2:56:28
could do and as a fan favorite to still be relevant to this day
2:56:32
and what he's done and he had this argument.
2:56:35
Did he dunk over Jordan. It was Horace Grant.
2:56:38
But if if you want to go on on that context and what he did
2:56:43
yeah was was he undrafted it. But what he did was was make his
2:56:47
name the Knicks for for nine years and to create those, you
2:56:51
know, those balances and those freaking challenges that he had
2:56:56
with the Bulls team at the time. I just think that's that's a
2:56:59
dude that's going to go down like may not be 1 like the
2:57:04
fanciest players but was a dude that gave you everything you got
2:57:07
and still to this day is relevant.
2:57:09
All right. So since Java kind of took my
2:57:12
last pick, I'm going to go with Luttrell Sprewell.
2:57:15
Now I'm going to go with Sprewell for the mean fact that
2:57:20
he was another guy that during those 90s team, he was very much
2:57:23
a consistent player helping the Knicks stay in that consistent
2:57:26
realm. You know, having them stay in
2:57:28
that consistency of being a good team.
2:57:30
My uncle was who was the biggest die hard Knicks fan that I know
2:57:33
he is a he was a big Latrell Sprewell fan and watching him
2:57:36
growing up. So I'm going to go with Latrell.
2:57:43
All right, so round one is complete.
2:57:45
Who is moving on? The King.
2:57:50
All right, So what I'm going to say, all right, here's what I'm
2:57:55
going to say. I'm not a John Starks fan
2:57:58
because John Starks was the bricklayer.
2:58:01
He was the reason why the Knicks didn't win a championship in
2:58:03
Game 7 and 94. So I'm going to blame John
2:58:06
Starks. I like Bradley, I like all your
2:58:09
picks job. I really do.
2:58:10
But I'm going to go, I'm going to go with obviously Willis Reed
2:58:13
and Patrick Ewing. Those are the guys.
2:58:15
Those are the those guys were the faces of the New York Knicks
2:58:18
from the 70s and the 90s. So I'm going to go with Tommy
2:58:22
Poops. I, I disagree with you.
2:58:24
Luttrell's pretty well. I would have taken Carmelo
2:58:26
Anthony over. Luttrell's pretty well, pretty
2:58:28
well. Sprewell didn't win anything and
2:58:30
he liked to beat up coaches, so I'll go Carmelo Anthony.
2:58:33
I, I'm surprised none of you went with Carmelo Anthony.
2:58:35
And there were a lot of other players on those 70s Knicks.
2:58:38
And I also like Charles Oakley and you know, you have my heart
2:58:42
right there. Jarrett, when she said Charles
2:58:44
Oakley, because he was my favorite player.
2:58:46
I'm going to go with Jarrett and the poops.
2:58:50
All right, so we'll go to Round 2 before we get to round two.
2:58:52
I forgot to bring this up during let's partly I also Chaz sent
2:58:54
some picks over as well. Chaz Eagles money line for this
2:58:58
week Bears team total over Lions team total over and the Falcons
2:59:03
versus the Cardinals game on the over and those picks are also in
2:59:06
the comments section as well. So we go from the other extreme
2:59:09
now, from the best Knicks of all time to the worst Knicks of all
2:59:15
time. I can give you a couple of those
2:59:17
all. Right.
2:59:19
Who goes first, Sarah? I'll go Jared, this is his final
2:59:23
show. I'm going to go Jared 1st and
2:59:25
I'll go with Poop second. This is tough as a as a non New
2:59:32
Yorker. I'll go recent just bad draft
2:59:37
pick. I'll go Frank into Latina.
2:59:39
Couldn't do anything offensively.
2:59:42
He's a he's a he was a fine defender, but they they drafted
2:59:45
him in the top ten with a lot of hype around him and it was just
2:59:48
a complete non factor offensively.
2:59:50
No shooting touch whatsoever, no finishing touch, no play making
2:59:53
ability whatsoever. I'll go Frank, you know all.
2:59:56
Right, Tommy? Poops.
2:59:58
I'm going to go with kind of recent person too.
3:00:00
And Kevin Knox. Wow, was that a bit of a
3:00:03
blunder. Just Kevin Knox is just not good
3:00:05
in any aspect of of the Knicks whatsoever.
3:00:09
He got traded pretty quickly, somewhat not quick enough, I
3:00:12
would like to say. But yeah, Kevin Knox was one of
3:00:15
the worst players that I've witnessed in the recent years
3:00:17
and really main reason why I didn't start watching the Knicks
3:00:19
until they actually started winning again.
3:00:20
So give me Kevin Knox. I'll go Jerome James, Knicks
3:00:25
signed into a big money contract after he had a like one playoff
3:00:29
run and hadn't done nothing else in his career.
3:00:32
The guy sucked. He's a lousy center, didn't do
3:00:35
anything and cost the Knicks a lot of money.
3:00:38
One of the worst free agent signings at like of that time
3:00:41
period for sure. My next pick, I'm going to go
3:00:46
with Joe Kim, Noah now I'm going with Joe Kim only for the fact
3:00:49
that it really didn't pan out the way that New York wanted it
3:00:53
to. Of course, they were getting a
3:00:54
guy that was on the Bulls that was doing very spectacular
3:00:57
things over there. But that four year deal that
3:00:59
they signed for him to he couldn't stay healthy.
3:01:02
Very poor play overall. And it really looked like he
3:01:06
really looked like a shell of himself of what you saw over
3:01:07
there in Chicago. So give me Joe, Kim, Noah.
3:01:11
I'll take, yeah, I'll take with my final pick.
3:01:14
I'll take Andre Bargnani. The worst players are not the
3:01:18
ones that are necessarily bad. They're the worst players, the
3:01:20
ones that are bad but think they're very good.
3:01:23
Bartoni was the number one pick. He scored a lot of points in
3:01:25
Toronto, kind of he had he had a big head on him and and thought
3:01:29
he could really play. But good night.
3:01:32
He was he was a chucker. He was a just dumb player.
3:01:35
Couldn't guard anybody. Soft 7 footer, but was really
3:01:38
like a three rather than a four or five.
3:01:41
Just horrible player. All right.
3:01:43
And my last is going to have to be Eddie Curry.
3:01:47
Now, another guy that I didn't really get to see play, but I
3:01:49
don't know if anybody actually wanted to see him play.
3:01:52
Only for a 7 foot center that wasn't very good at being a
3:01:57
center. Very poor play.
3:01:59
Very out of shape as well too. So I'm going to go with Eddie
3:02:01
Curry. This one is really, really close
3:02:05
and I remember James, but I also remember Joakim Noah and that
3:02:09
was what that was the deciding thought to both you guys,
3:02:13
because both of them were very, very interesting.
3:02:16
The way he went with Nicola Nelakina and the way he went
3:02:19
with Knox. So that was kind of equal.
3:02:21
And then even your final pick. So this and and the Eddie Curry
3:02:25
1 was pretty much I I would say that Barnieri was was probably
3:02:30
the same, even though I thought Eddie Curry was a little bit
3:02:32
worse. I mean, but I'm going to go with
3:02:36
you, Tommy, because I think Joe Kim, Noah, he barely played and
3:02:40
the Knicks gave a lot. I mean, Phil Jackson and this,
3:02:43
this move was probably the worst move I can honestly say the
3:02:47
Knicks have ever made. They brought Joe Kim, Noah in.
3:02:50
He got like $75 million. And I think he played no more
3:02:53
than 30 games for the New York Knicks.
3:02:55
And his career was over for the Knicks.
3:02:57
His career was over in the NBA after that, So I'm going to go
3:03:00
Joe Kim Noah. I mean, Jerome James was a lot
3:03:02
of money for Joe Kim Noah, $75 million and he barely played so.
3:03:07
I want to. I want to see Jared take on the
3:03:08
king though. Can I relinquish my spot to
3:03:10
Jared or no? Should I?
3:03:12
If you want, that's up to you. Hey, it's up to Jared.
3:03:15
Jared, would you like to take on your king for your last episode?
3:03:19
He. Deserves, he deserves to go in
3:03:20
the last one man he he has been absolutely one of.
3:03:24
It's up for you if you want it. Jared, it's up to take.
3:03:26
I'll take it. I'll take it.
3:03:26
All right, then let's do it. I'll never, I'll never turn down
3:03:29
a handout. All right, so the last one is a
3:03:32
little more of a general 1 and it is the most underrated
3:03:36
players in the NBA right now. All right, Darrell, you could
3:03:40
decide if you want to go first or second, Jared.
3:03:44
Right now. Yes.
3:03:47
Now I'm trying to think where would I go with this because
3:03:52
there's a couple of guys. All right, I'm going to go
3:03:57
first, all right, because I'm I'm looking at the way they're
3:04:00
the way they're perceiving these guys.
3:04:04
So I'm going to go I'm going to go most underrated, all right,
3:04:09
most underrated play right now. All right, I'm going to go with
3:04:12
them. I'm going to go with Josh Hart
3:04:15
with the New York Knicks. Josh Hart is he he's a 6th man.
3:04:19
He's the 5th man. He does everything great.
3:04:22
He could rebound. He he does offensive, defensive
3:04:26
rebounding. He's the, as far as guards are
3:04:28
concerned, he's one of the best rebounders in the league at his
3:04:30
position and he plays the three, he plays the two, he plays the
3:04:34
one. He defends multiple positions
3:04:36
and he when he is in the starting line, if he's giving
3:04:39
you almost a double AA game, he is sensational.
3:04:42
He does a lot for the New York Knicks.
3:04:43
And if you're a fantasy owner, Josh Hart is one of those guys.
3:04:48
If you draft in after the fifth round, you get an absolutely an
3:04:52
absolute steal. I'm going to go.
3:04:54
Josh Hart is my number one right now.
3:04:56
Right, I will then go because no one watches this team.
3:05:00
I'll go Jaylen Johnson from the Atlanta Hawks, he has been one
3:05:04
of like legitimately a top 10 or top 15 player in the league this
3:05:07
year that no one is talking about.
3:05:09
He's averaging 2310 and 8 super efficiently.
3:05:13
The Hawks got better when Trey Young got out, got hurt.
3:05:16
Which? This is why the question I'm
3:05:19
most overrated. I would go Trey younger then
3:05:20
because of that. But they got better because
3:05:22
Jaylen Johnson was able to take on the number one role on a team
3:05:25
and he's that good. He'll be all NBA this year.
3:05:28
I think if if people start taking notice of them.
3:05:32
I'm going to go. My number 2 is I have to go with
3:05:35
this guy. I can't stand this team, but I
3:05:37
got to go with him. Peyton Pritchard, I mean the 6th
3:05:40
man of the year last year. This guy can do everything.
3:05:43
He scores in many different ways.
3:05:45
He was a big part after Tatum went down.
3:05:48
He was the only guy really scoring besides Jalen Brown for
3:05:52
the Boston Celtics. This guy offensively sound and
3:05:56
he remember he was a second round draft pick.
3:05:58
A lot of people question him his size when he came into the
3:06:00
league, so I'm going to go with Peyton Pritchard.
3:06:03
I will go I'll, I'll stick with my Grizzlies.
3:06:06
I'll go Cam Spencer. Cam Spencer, she is averaging 12
3:06:10
points and four assists. He's emerged as like real like
3:06:12
NBA starting level player this year.
3:06:15
He's shooting over 50% from three and he's talking so much
3:06:18
crap to every single team's bench.
3:06:21
He told, I think it was Durant. You can't F and guard me.
3:06:27
You got to love him. Tons of tons of personality and
3:06:30
just fire under him. He's been a big part of why the
3:06:32
Grizzlies have been winning games despite John Morant being
3:06:35
out and Dow, Zach, Eddie being out.
3:06:37
I'll go Cam Spencer. All right, my final pick and I'm
3:06:41
looking at there's so many guys that I can go with this.
3:06:44
I'm going to go with Trey Murphy and Trey Murphy for the Pelicans
3:06:48
Elite 3 point shooter, versatile when it comes to defense.
3:06:52
This guy could do everything on a basketball court.
3:06:54
The Pelicans, there's nothing to there's nothing that stands out
3:06:58
from the Pelicans as far as I'm concerned from this team.
3:07:02
But Trey Murphy does everything right.
3:07:05
He could shoot, he could defend. He's one of the more underrated
3:07:08
players in the NBA. So as far as we're talking about
3:07:11
underrated, I'm going to go Trey Murphy.
3:07:14
Yeah, I'll take another role player.
3:07:16
I'll take Tari Eason with my last pick for the Rockets
3:07:19
Supreme Energy guy. He never turns the ball over.
3:07:22
He has a high assist straight, gets a lot of steals.
3:07:24
He gets a lot of offensive rebounds.
3:07:25
He creates three extra shots per game compared to the other team.
3:07:29
He's also leading the league in three-point percentage as well.
3:07:31
He's shooting 52% from three right now.
3:07:32
All. Right, very good battle here.
3:07:35
Yeah, this was a pretty intense one year.
3:07:38
Last round of King of the Hill. Java come back in on camera.
3:07:40
We got to make our selections here.
3:07:43
I think I'll start here. I'll we'll go to Java and we'll
3:07:47
finish it off with Tommy. Jaylen Johnson was the best of
3:07:50
the individual picks for sure. I like the pick of Josh Hart as
3:07:53
well and Trey Murphy's another one that I think is is an
3:07:56
underrated one. I'm going to give Errol a slight
3:08:00
edge. Even though I think Jaylen
3:08:01
Johnson was the best individual one, I think collectively those
3:08:03
two give him a slight knock. Jabba.
3:08:07
Well, you know where I'm going and I'm going, Jared, just
3:08:12
because the effort that he's made, not saying Errol doesn't
3:08:15
make effort, but Jared's my dude and always will be.
3:08:21
And love you, Errol, you know that.
3:08:23
But I'm, I'm stuck with you And, and I hope Jared's stuck with us
3:08:28
and I'm going to ride with him too.
3:08:29
So the fact that his knowledge is it goes beyond just the
3:08:34
surface level of what he looks at.
3:08:36
And yeah, did he, did he stay with his Homer team a little
3:08:39
bit, which we all love. We haven't had one Nebraska
3:08:43
reference and we haven't needed to.
3:08:46
There's ain't been shit we needed to talk about.
3:08:49
They're not getting an NBA. Team I wasn't I wasn't going to
3:08:52
name Bryce Mcgowan's as an option.
3:08:55
You know what he's he's he's alive and he's doing OK, but
3:09:00
when you could have dropped a Tron Lou maybe, but he's a
3:09:03
coach. Sorry and but no, Jared's my
3:09:06
guy. Always arrow love you, but I'm
3:09:09
going to Jared just because that's like you're not going to
3:09:11
answer speedy on some things. I'm I'm going to hold that too.
3:09:14
And Jared's my dude. Yeah, and for my final pick, I
3:09:19
thought you guys picks were really, really good.
3:09:21
I disagree with a little bit on the Peyton Pritchard pick, but I
3:09:24
do think that Errol's other two picks were a lot stronger,
3:09:27
Jared. So hey man, I gave you the I
3:09:30
gave you the little bit of a lot, but it's all good, man.
3:09:32
You'll throw it down next time you're on here.
3:09:35
It's fine, I didn't deserve to be in this final round anyway
3:09:38
so. No, I'll tell you why.
3:09:40
And by the way, I am not a Peyton Pritchard fan, but this
3:09:44
guy has. For the last two years he's been
3:09:47
one of the best six man players in the league.
3:09:50
And would you call him underrated though?
3:09:51
I did, absolutely, absolutely. What's your, what's your like?
3:09:56
That's the one thing I want to ask.
3:09:58
Like what is your definition of like?
3:10:01
What does underrated mean? My definition of underrated is
3:10:05
guys that are not appreciated in the league as much as they
3:10:08
should be. And Peyton Pritchard, even
3:10:11
though he was the 6th man of the year, people forget what he is
3:10:15
on the on the Celtics because you got Jason Tatum, you got
3:10:19
Jaylen Brown, you used to have. Porzingis there.
3:10:23
I'm just, I'm just saying he's he's hidden from talent around
3:10:26
him. So people forget that Peyton
3:10:28
Pritchard was a big part of their their record over the last
3:10:32
couple of years and why they've been such a good team every
3:10:35
single season over the last couple of years.
3:10:37
And he was a steal in the second round.
3:10:39
Remember, this guy was a second round draft pick.
3:10:41
So Kim. Spencer was the 53rd pick I.
3:10:44
Listen, James Penser. Dropping knowledge, Gerald.
3:10:48
Dropping Knowledge. Let's put them next to each
3:10:49
other. Kim Spencer's been better this
3:10:51
year. This year, but who's been better
3:10:53
all the rounds? Ken Spencer's only in the second
3:10:56
season. Of Peyton Purchase.
3:10:59
My guys are too underrated. They're too underrated.
3:11:02
They're still fun, Jared. They'll give you this.
3:11:04
Errol can like care Spencer because he played for UConn and
3:11:07
Dan Hurley's Errol's favorite college basketball coach, Ed.
3:11:10
He was the one that shot so well that it stirred up Klay Thompson
3:11:14
whining to John Moran. First of all, Bobby Hurley is my
3:11:16
favorite college basketball coach just because he's Bobby
3:11:19
Hurley. But I like the Hurley brothers
3:11:21
and I love Danny Hurley and I root for Danny Hurley and I
3:11:24
think he'll be a great. NBA Did that ever bother you in
3:11:27
blue chips when he was coaching a different team?
3:11:29
I'm. Not going to answer that.
3:11:35
I love Blue chips, I love the movie and.
3:11:39
Well, I'm just asking, did that did that not bother you?
3:11:42
Yes, of course, of course. Bobby Hurley is my all time, one
3:11:48
of my all time favorite players in any sport.
3:11:51
So I just follow everything that he that he is on and off the
3:11:55
basketball court. And by the way, I'm working,
3:11:57
we're working on getting Bobby Hurley on the show cuz that
3:11:59
would be a great treat to go back and forth and talk
3:12:02
basketball, college basketball. NBA Basketball with Bobby Hurley
3:12:05
Hurley family's got to be in the top five of royalty in
3:12:08
basketball, right? No question, no question.
3:12:11
I don't think anybody can argue that.
3:12:12
And, and most successful too, if you think about it, their father
3:12:17
won how many state championships over there in New Jersey?
3:12:21
And Bobby Hurley was a great player, two time NCAA champion,
3:12:26
never won it and then hit. And then obviously Danny Hurley
3:12:28
went back-to-back championships for the NCAA self with UConn.
3:12:32
So I think they've been the most successful family when it comes
3:12:36
to college and high school ball. And and by the way, they all
3:12:40
play for their father and Danny Hurley was a terrible college
3:12:44
player over there in Princeton. So, and I don't think Danny
3:12:48
wants to hear that, but it's true.
3:12:50
He wasn't that great of a basketball player, but great
3:12:52
coach, great family. That's one we need to do like
3:12:56
royalty and families in all of sports.
3:12:59
A lot of people don't like really think about like the
3:13:01
Venables in baseball is a royalty family, which a lot of
3:13:06
people don't like understand that.
3:13:08
And I don't think a lot of people talk about those like we
3:13:11
all get the bonds as we all get the all the other stuff of, you
3:13:14
know, the Mannings and all. But there's a lot of great
3:13:16
families that have been in this game that people don't really
3:13:20
look upon, you know? Yep and and that's why I think
3:13:23
sports Gordie Howe the 2 they Gordie Howe is the only father
3:13:29
and son. The only father that played with
3:13:31
both his sons before he retired on the same team.
3:13:35
And how crazy is that? I mean, the guy was
3:13:39
unbelievable. And the guy had some stamina and
3:13:41
didn't matter how old he was, Gord and he was so mean.
3:13:44
And I, I, I had the privilege to meet Gordie Howe, one of the
3:13:48
nicest hockey personalities you'll ever meet.
3:13:52
I mean, guys so gracious. He'll sign everything.
3:13:56
And so he will talk hockey with you.
3:13:58
And by the way, his second favorite sport.
3:14:00
You'll like this. His second favorite sport he is
3:14:03
basketball, so he loves talking basketball.
3:14:06
So true story about Gordie Howe, he loves talking about NBA
3:14:09
basketball. Could you could you guys guess
3:14:12
who his favorite basketball team was?
3:14:15
Gordie Howe? Was he a Pistons fan?
3:14:18
No, he. Was not.
3:14:20
Was it something that wouldn't be obvious from like, Gordy's
3:14:23
upbringing? It's obvious.
3:14:25
It's obvious. Knicks fan No.
3:14:28
Celtics No. Good guys.
3:14:31
Guess I'll give your guess. Three times.
3:14:32
I don't know anything about how. All right, well.
3:14:35
Basketball was your favorite. Was Gordie Howe's favorite?
3:14:37
I know, but I don't know anything about Gordie Howe all.
3:14:39
Right. His favorite basketball team
3:14:40
was, believe it or not, his favorite basketball team was an
3:14:43
old team. Speedy got to guess this.
3:14:45
The Lakers. I'm just going to be dumb.
3:14:47
He's a Laker fan. He was a Laker fan.
3:14:49
He grew up a Laker fan. I don't want to wait for Speedy.
3:14:52
Because he'll say so. He must have started with the
3:14:53
Minneapolis. Lakers.
3:14:56
Anyways, that is it for King of the Hill.
3:14:59
And now what's that smell? Hold up, what is that smell?
3:15:03
What's Wow? Wow, you don't see that every
3:15:11
day. So we lost Nathan and he
3:15:13
disappeared off the face of the And by the way, Sam Donald was
3:15:19
having one of the worst games of his career.
3:15:21
Set it up now. And now he has 13 points and I
3:15:24
was kicking, I thought I was going to kick the you know what
3:15:27
out of fish. And now he's got 13 points and
3:15:30
now they can win the game. But hopefully, you know, we can
3:15:33
see if the Rams could pull this game out and doesn't go to
3:15:36
overtime because I. Don't want?
3:15:37
Oh Speedy, that might be a popcorn moment next show.
3:15:41
Oh yeah. I guess Sam was playing
3:15:44
terrible. He threw 2 interceptions.
3:15:46
He's looked really, really bad. He only has one touchdown.
3:15:49
He does play bad against the Rams dating.
3:15:51
Back to last year and I thought he was only going to he was only
3:15:54
he wasn't even going to get into the teens.
3:15:56
And then all of a sudden, you know, the Rams have let him come
3:15:58
back into the game. So it doesn't make me any
3:16:00
happier to watch this. So anyways, all right, so it's
3:16:04
pretty easy. You're going to give us a story
3:16:06
and you're going to tell us what it smells like.
3:16:08
Ladies and gentlemen, Are you ready?
3:16:10
All right, let's go. Let's go.
3:16:13
Poops. Speedy.
3:16:16
Jabba, Jarrett, me. We'll give Jarrett the final
3:16:19
one. You know, the second, The final
3:16:20
one. All right, here we go all.
3:16:22
Right. Why do you guys have to take the
3:16:23
final the straw? I'm here, dude.
3:16:26
I should. Because I'm, I got to do the,
3:16:28
the, the ending part of the show, you know?
3:16:31
Well, you always end the show. Let Jarrett end it on this
3:16:33
segment. All right, I'll go second to
3:16:36
last and we'll let charity and. All right, because they're
3:16:41
lovely saying that is his his kumbaya to to the show, right
3:16:46
all. Right, let him go.
3:16:48
Let's go all. Right so to start mine off I've
3:16:52
been doing a lot of wrestling. This is still containing to
3:16:54
wrestling a bit and many people know Nikki Bella.
3:16:57
Nikki Bella one of the older dating back I guess diva
3:17:01
wrestlers. I couldn't really stand her to
3:17:03
be honest with you. But Nikki Bella is in the rumors
3:17:06
for apparently dating 22 year old Cooper De Jean.
3:17:10
Now for those who don't know the Bella Twins or others, twin
3:17:15
sister Nicky Aubrey Bella, the the two twins, they're both
3:17:18
known for being huge Eagle supporters.
3:17:20
Huge Eagle fans celebrated their asses off last year for the
3:17:23
Super Bowl win. And yeah, she's apparently 42
3:17:26
years old on her cougar behavior going out with 22 year old
3:17:30
Cooper de Jean. Now.
3:17:32
Hey, let the math fun. She's just coming off of a
3:17:35
domestic arrest assault thing with her husband from Dancing
3:17:39
With the Stars. She's not seeing Herman John
3:17:41
Cena anymore, literally, physically and emotionally.
3:17:44
And yeah, let her. He's retiring, isn't?
3:17:47
It yeah so she can't see him physically and emotionally you
3:17:50
know so but hey she let her have some fun with a 22 year old let
3:17:54
her be on some cougar behavior why not and let's be honest
3:17:57
Cooper to Jean he kind of struck gold a little bit she's not too
3:18:00
like hard to look at in the eyes so I'm just.
3:18:02
That guy could get any girl he wants.
3:18:05
That is true, but hey, can he can anybody else say that they
3:18:08
got Nikki Bella 42 year old Nikki?
3:18:10
Bella, I don't. I don't think that means
3:18:12
anything. Probably not, but hey, hey, like
3:18:14
I said, let them have some fun. You know, who cares, really?
3:18:17
I don't really care, but it's kind of funny just considering
3:18:20
that I did the math. She was technically, or he was
3:18:23
technically, four years old when she did her WWE debut.
3:18:27
That makes it more weird. Dude, I don't know that's they,
3:18:31
that's just the math. Everybody could have done the
3:18:33
math with that, but. Drobo smack my.
3:18:36
What does it smell like? Well, I got to say, it just
3:18:40
smells. Like I need a blow pop.
3:18:42
The most rancid Philly cheese steak that Cooper de Jean just
3:18:46
pulled out of his ass. Because.
3:18:47
Poops gets no coots and I. Don't know a lot of people that
3:18:50
do like him either. So there we go, all.
3:18:52
Right. I love Lisa Ann.
3:18:53
Before before I move on to Vine Tommy, here's the real question.
3:18:56
If this relationship doesn't work out, what is the chances
3:18:58
Niffen has with Nikki Bella? I got to go back off to.
3:19:01
Give. But you know, Nikki might
3:19:04
actually like the the leash behavior.
3:19:07
Oh. So I'm putting you on a leash
3:19:08
now that. Gives Nathan about like a 67 to
3:19:11
70. Percent a lot of hot ladies.
3:19:13
No, that you know what that gives him?
3:19:15
That's from Dumb and Dumber, when they're at the end of the
3:19:17
scene and it's one in a million. So you're saying I got a chance?
3:19:22
Pretty much there's a chance Speedy's mom all.
3:19:25
Right, so I'll move on to some college football and we talked
3:19:28
about Nick Saban a little bit before with Wesson.
3:19:30
Let's parlay. And he likes to say a lot of
3:19:32
things since he's been retired. Now he's accusing Texas A&M of
3:19:37
pumping in fake crowd noise into their stadium, which is the 4th
3:19:42
largest stadium in college football.
3:19:44
They deem themselves the college football 12th man at Kyle Field.
3:19:47
And it is a very loud state. I mean, when they were in the
3:19:49
Big 12, Jabba, you know this, they've got really loud venues
3:19:53
over there and Nick Saban is accusing them of pumping in his
3:19:55
fake crowd noise. Apparently the SEC is
3:19:57
manipulating them to do it in order to get.
3:20:00
Better ratings, better matchups, and more prime time games
3:20:03
because Texas A and MI believe there was a stat I think LSD
3:20:06
would the most and then the second most was Texas A&M.
3:20:09
So Nick Saban, stop being salty about a team that's beaten you a
3:20:12
few times the last couple years. So what does that smell like?
3:20:16
I wish Fish was here because he would love.
3:20:17
He would love this one because it's shot at Evan Neal.
3:20:19
It smells like Alabama alum Evan Neal taking a ride on.
3:20:23
Apparently this is a thing in an Alabama, The New York City poop
3:20:26
train for the entire length of our show.
3:20:28
Bug Yum Yum. The New York City poop train in
3:20:31
Parrish, AL is a thing. So if you took, if you took a 3
3:20:34
1/2 hour ride on that and what Evan Neal would smell like
3:20:37
coming out of it, that's what this smells.
3:20:39
Like poops get so cootch. Mine's going to be mine's going
3:20:42
to be a little probably on the opposite side.
3:20:45
And I'm going to go NASCAR and what's that smell?
3:20:47
And I'm going to give kudos to what Greg Biffle did and he had
3:20:53
passed away, obviously, and they in a plane crash.
3:20:56
And what's that smell like? We've lost so many great
3:21:00
individuals along so many capacities of not only sports,
3:21:05
but entertainment too. And that's what sports is, is
3:21:07
entertainment, right? And you know, we can go back and
3:21:11
look at like the first ever, you know, private plane crash.
3:21:14
And, you know, there's been obviously so many that come
3:21:17
along and it's just it, it, it's so hard to see in, in, you know,
3:21:21
thoughts and prayers to his family.
3:21:23
He was only 55 years old. And the things and what that
3:21:27
smells like to me is just like the understanding we all have
3:21:30
opportunities in life to do certain things.
3:21:33
And we've lost great athletes. We've lost great people to so
3:21:36
many. And these these are only ones
3:21:38
that we get to see from a certain distance because they're
3:21:41
in the limelight. There's been so many more that
3:21:43
have that have passed in that same context.
3:21:45
But it's just, it's, we need to understand what the smell is
3:21:49
like is, is to smell what life is and, and to understand that
3:21:53
it's precious and you never know what's going to end.
3:21:56
So enjoy every aspect of everything that's happening and
3:21:59
the opportunities that you have and embrace them, love them and
3:22:03
enjoy every second you got because you don't know what it's
3:22:05
going to take away. All right, my what's that smell
3:22:09
goes to Diego Pavia and he at the Heisman Trophy awards said
3:22:16
something interesting to after finding out that Mendoza was
3:22:20
going to win. He said F all voters but family
3:22:25
for life and it really stroke a bad look at Mendoza and looked
3:22:33
like a sore loser. He really looked like a sore
3:22:35
loser. And then after that, 24 hours
3:22:38
later, he came back and he apologized to Mendoza because he
3:22:42
thought Mendoza very well deserved and, and said that
3:22:45
Mendoza had a great year and, and, and apologized to all the
3:22:48
fans out there that are rooting and have rooted for Mendoza all
3:22:52
season long. And and apologized to the
3:22:54
committee and said that it was a wonderful award show and it was
3:22:57
a wonderful opportunity and he just is very thankful for being
3:23:02
there. And it definitely looked like he
3:23:05
was being a sore loser and it didn't look good for Diego.
3:23:07
Diego's going into this year's draft.
3:23:09
He's probably going to be undrafted.
3:23:11
He's small. I and also what was so
3:23:14
interesting about it was Johnny Manziel went to he was at one of
3:23:19
his games recently and he was doing he was vaping and he was
3:23:22
smoking looked really, really bad and and he was all over
3:23:25
social media putting Pavia, you know, Diego Pavia out there like
3:23:30
this guy should be and maybe he should have Pavia had a great
3:23:33
season and when you're comparing him to Mendoza, I mean you can
3:23:36
argue that Pavia had a better, better seed it.
3:23:39
Was a better numbers, yes. Most Valuable Player to his
3:23:42
team, but Mendoza, it took Indiana to the number one seed
3:23:46
and it's the first time ever to do that and and beat Ohio State
3:23:50
in the conference championship. So.
3:23:53
That's that's our argument that we've had this does does winning
3:23:56
play that factor into it and what he's done like?
3:24:00
But Hobby has done that too with with something that's never been
3:24:04
done before as well. Well, I'm not saying that he
3:24:06
didn't, but he didn't take his team to the the tournament.
3:24:09
And no, and that's why I said does does winning is winning
3:24:13
that context of of. OK.
3:24:16
I think 100%. I think winning means everything
3:24:19
and that's the way I believe when you look at the voting.
3:24:22
We've had that argument amongst one another, where does winning
3:24:26
make you the best that what you do are considered one of the
3:24:29
greatest? I don't think he was considered
3:24:32
because he, I think that the voters looked at it for what he
3:24:36
did against Ohio State at the end of the game, what he's done
3:24:39
against some of the the better teams of the nation when he
3:24:43
needed to come back and bring his team back.
3:24:45
I'm not saying Pavia didn't have a good, yeah, I don't think
3:24:47
anybody he was second in the voting.
3:24:49
But I think Mendoza, because of taking Indiana to that, did he
3:24:55
hit this? Nope.
3:24:56
Little wide rush. Wow.
3:24:59
Oh wow, that's not that's not good.
3:25:02
That's not good for Seattle and they got two.
3:25:04
I mean, that's not good for the Rams, by the way.
3:25:06
So Seattle, all they got to do is get it to the 35 yard line
3:25:10
and their field goal kick is one of the best in, you know, in the
3:25:12
league right now. So that's the legend Jason
3:25:14
Meyers. What it smells like, well, it
3:25:16
smells like poops his ass when he takes a dump.
3:25:19
Especially six or seven times on the show.
3:25:21
Man, oh man, I take a whiff of that when I'm sitting in the
3:25:24
studio. So it is a smelly one.
3:25:27
Did you just say 6 or 7? Get up a lot.
3:25:29
You went there, Tommy, You get you get a lot.
3:25:32
You get up a lot during the show, so.
3:25:35
You do you have IBS? Me.
3:25:37
No, not that I know of. Hopefully not.
3:25:41
You're too young to do that. All right.
3:25:45
Jared. My, my final.
3:25:46
What's that smell? I'll be going to the universe or
3:25:49
sorry to Ohio University, who fired their football coach Brian
3:25:53
Smith last week. We are now learning that he was
3:25:56
fired with 'cause we're having an extramarital affair with an
3:25:59
undergrad as well as public intoxication.
3:26:03
As as someone who works in the education sphere, this is gross
3:26:07
on so many levels. Apparently he did it.
3:26:10
He was intoxicated on campus. He also had the affair at an on
3:26:13
campus hotel. Just what a gross weird dude.
3:26:18
Kudos to the university were firing him.
3:26:19
Also, shame on the university for hiring someone with such low
3:26:22
moral fiber. As in the 1st place.
3:26:24
But what's that smell? It smells like the puddle of
3:26:27
urine and vomit that Brian Smith woke up in this morning.
3:26:33
And finally, I want to thank all of y'all for for letting me on
3:26:36
this show and giving me, you know, a chance.
3:26:39
It has been an absolute blast. It's been inspiring as well.
3:26:44
My friend and I just started our own show and I like as someone
3:26:47
who used to have a like crippling fear of public
3:26:50
speaking, doing this has helped me tremendously and really,
3:26:53
really helped a lot. So truthfully, thank you all so
3:26:56
much. Well before Jabba, I'm sure
3:26:59
Jabba has its own take to it. I think you're a great kid.
3:27:02
I think you have a tremendous opportunity in this industry.
3:27:05
Whatever you decide to do, we are here for you.
3:27:09
If you need any help, if you need any references and if you
3:27:12
ever want to come on the show, you want to ever help out on the
3:27:14
show, you're more than welcome to.
3:27:17
I, I think you're a great kid and I think you'll be very
3:27:20
successful no matter what you do.
3:27:22
So I, I just think you're an amazing first of all, and you
3:27:25
know, you're back. You know your sports, so you're
3:27:28
educated in sports. And I could see why you decided
3:27:31
to move towards this business because I think you're, you fit
3:27:34
this business and you fit that kind of mold and personality to
3:27:37
do this kind of business. So that that's what I would say
3:27:40
about you. Jared, I'll go there as well
3:27:42
before, before you finish off Java.
3:27:44
I think your knowledge, especially in the NBA and in
3:27:46
college sports as well is really in depth.
3:27:49
A lot of the a lot of the markets that are in here in New
3:27:52
York, we don't get to know as much than you with your
3:27:55
Louisiana background now living in Memphis as well, get more in
3:27:58
depth with that kind of thing. And even in the private chat.
3:28:00
So always, always great chatting with us.
3:28:02
You do a fantastic job with the graphics and the video editing
3:28:05
when you've had to be on calls getting these videos even for
3:28:07
today when fish couldn't be there for our first two
3:28:09
segments. Always, always hard work or
3:28:11
always reliable. And it was good luck with your
3:28:14
show. And you're again, you're always
3:28:16
welcome to come on college ball, college basketball, NBA stuff.
3:28:19
Just let me let me know. Yeah, and real quick too, let me
3:28:22
throw in there too. I would say Jared, you know,
3:28:24
it's been a pleasure working with you, man.
3:28:26
I will say to carry off what Speedy and Arrow were just
3:28:28
saying too as well. You know the fact is, is of you,
3:28:32
you just carry yourself a very sophistication, everything that
3:28:34
you talk about, so very sophisticated when you're
3:28:37
talking about sports. And like Earl said, you
3:28:39
definitely know what you're talking about with your sports.
3:28:40
So it was absolutely a blast, Ave. man.
3:28:43
And you know, hey, let us know what your show is or whatever.
3:28:45
We'll definitely tune. In yeah, for me Jared too.
3:28:47
It's like, obviously the sports side is one thing man, but the
3:28:51
greatest compliment we can get is getting comfortable with the
3:28:54
uncomfortable, right. And when I started doing this,
3:28:59
it was, you know, I, I'd done a lot of stuff because that's kind
3:29:02
of what I've done. But you, you just saying as the
3:29:04
greatest compliment that that you can give us and what we
3:29:08
provided you is something to get comfortable with the
3:29:11
uncomfortable. And your knowledge is, is, is
3:29:16
bar none like something you love and like it's not fake.
3:29:20
And, and we can understand that and what we see.
3:29:22
And I was actually raving about you today.
3:29:24
And we, we've had some really good interns in the aspect of
3:29:28
kind of what they do, But like, it's not only like what you it,
3:29:32
it's because you care. And I think for me, it's like
3:29:35
seeing that in, in the capacity of of how you've done it.
3:29:40
And man, just want to see you succeed and want to see
3:29:44
everything that you're doing. And you know, if we can help in
3:29:48
any way, please let us know. We're only a text or a Callaway
3:29:51
if there's something that we can help with you.
3:29:53
But man, it's been an absolute pleasure.
3:29:55
It's it. I've learned a lot from you and
3:29:58
I learn every day on the show and it's because of you guys.
3:30:01
And I'm very grateful for that. And I'm glad you gave us the
3:30:05
opportunity to be able to do that.
3:30:08
So thank you so much, and hopefully we weren't full of
3:30:11
shit all the time, maybe just half the time, but you've been
3:30:15
great, man, and I appreciate your time because we know time
3:30:19
is the biggest thing that you have and we just appreciate it
3:30:22
more than you'll ever know. My rear end is burning.
3:30:28
Thank you so much. Thank thank you all so much for
3:30:30
the kind words. Wow.
3:30:31
It's yeah. It's not because we have to,
3:30:35
it's because you earned it, man. Respect.
3:30:38
Respect deserve not given. Puka Decoy is a freaking beast
3:30:42
man. The guy is unbelievable bad.
3:30:46
These catches that this guy is making tonight is ridiculous.
3:30:49
What a fie by Sean McVeigh. I can't stand Sean McVeigh, but.
3:30:53
Hurry up, I have another business call.
3:30:55
All right, all right, all right, that's it for our show, ladies
3:30:57
and gentlemen. Thank you to all the Spotify and
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3:31:03
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the mouth, so and X job in the mouth.
3:31:18
So thank you to all the fans TuneIn next week.
3:31:20
Who do we have on on Monday and Thursday?
3:31:22
Speedy? Thursday, Christmas, we're not
3:31:23
gonna have a show on Christmas 1 mega show like we did the Monday
3:31:26
before Thanksgiving as well. Joining us at 8:45.
3:31:28
Jabba, you might have watched him being a Braves fan, might
3:31:31
have started a little bit when you're in career as well.
3:31:33
Daniel Winkler will be joining us for relief pitcher pitch for
3:31:36
the Braves from 2015 to 19 and also was with the Cubs for a
3:31:39
little bit as well. All right, so there you go,
3:31:41
Daniel Winkler. And so that's it.
3:31:44
I want to give a shout out to Fish.
3:31:45
I hope everything is OK with him and and his dog, him and his
3:31:49
wife. My heart go where are all our
3:31:51
hearts go out to him and his family and hopefully his dog is
3:31:53
OK. And Jarrett, we love you and
3:31:56
stay in touch man. We really do.
3:31:58
That's it ladies and gentlemen, we'll talk to you on Monday.
3:32:02
Have a wonderful weekend. It it is the worldwide sports
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