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Furness Show 5-19: Joe Sheehan and John Lund · The Ian Furness Show

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Speaker 2: in this year, which is really cool. So that's a
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Speaker 2: great see that league grop here we go. We believe
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Speaker 2: Joe Sheen and John Lund are going to join it today.
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Speaker 3: We do believe.
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Speaker 2: Have we talked to John, they will and yes, I
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Speaker 2: have you have? Okay, all right, that's the Joe's very punctual.
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Speaker 2: And for those that ask, we think we might have
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Speaker 2: solved the Joe Shean audio problem. Yes, okay, Yes, that's
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Speaker 2: the plan. That's what you tell me. That's what Joe
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Speaker 2: tells me, he tells you at least, all right, Ye
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Speaker 2: think that that.
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Speaker 3: Between you two.
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Speaker 2: Everyone is like, we love Joe, we just don't understand
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Speaker 2: half of what he says.
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Speaker 3: We can't hear him as well.
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Speaker 2: So I think we have solved that problem. Yes, correct.
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Speaker 4: I gave him a very specific directive on what has
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Speaker 4: worked well for me when it comes to audio.
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Speaker 2: Yes, all right. So coming up probably in the next segment,
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Speaker 2: I believe, is when we'll do it. We're gonna maybe
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Speaker 2: this segment. We'll see how long we go here. We're gonna.
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Speaker 2: So we had the boys on yesterday from mali Wa Monday,
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Speaker 2: and it was spicy. I don't know how you want
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Speaker 2: to say it, but it was a it was a
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Speaker 2: really good episode. We ended up going the full hour.
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Speaker 2: We don't normally do that, but the we be because
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Speaker 2: we need to get to cold Emerson, which we will
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Speaker 2: in a second, but before we could get to that.
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Speaker 2: The Dan Wilson situation has just been kind of percolating
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Speaker 2: under the under the surface, and I think it just
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Speaker 2: boiled over this past weekend. Now, yes, they won last night.
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Speaker 2: Nobody in this division is above five hundred. It's just
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Speaker 2: it's a weird, strange season in the American League and
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Speaker 2: certainly in the AL West. The West feels a lot
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Speaker 2: like the NFC South last year in the NFL, like
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Speaker 2: it's just someone's not going to be good and still
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Speaker 2: win it. And that's not what we want to have here.
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Speaker 2: So we will get back to Dan in a second,
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Speaker 2: but we're going to replay the little snippet of those
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Speaker 2: guys Chris and Nathan both talking about Wilson because Mike
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Speaker 2: Benton does a great job of our social media stuff.
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Speaker 2: He put some stuff on Instagram last night and on
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Speaker 2: and on Twitter, I guess, or ex whatever we call it,
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Speaker 2: and it blew up, absolutely blew up. And you know,
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Speaker 2: I don't always put all my you know, everything in
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Speaker 2: one basket in terms of what social media is saying
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Speaker 2: or but when you have a reaction like we did.
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Speaker 2: I woke up this morning and I looked at the
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Speaker 2: Instagram Stu and I'm like, holy, like it was crazy.
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Speaker 2: Everyone in this town seems to have a Dan Wilson
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Speaker 2: opinion sure, and a strong one at that. And so
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Speaker 2: we're gonna get those guys. If you missed it yesterday,
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Speaker 2: just pull that little part out again and let them
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Speaker 2: talk about it, and we'll get your reaction to it
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Speaker 2: as well. Because I think it's it's it's it's a
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Speaker 2: good thing to be honest with you, not to be
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Speaker 2: criticizing or be critical, but it's a good thing because
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Speaker 2: the passion for Mariner fans and what they're demanding that
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Speaker 2: happens this year, with this particular season is frankly, I think,
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Speaker 2: in an all time high. And if I'm sitting down
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Speaker 2: there at T Mobile, I love it. I don't love
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Speaker 2: that people criticize our current manager, maybe, but I do
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Speaker 2: love the passion. I love the fact that people are
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Speaker 2: fired up. I love the fact that people want this
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Speaker 2: team and demand this team. I go back to Chris's
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Speaker 2: first episode of MULLI wa money Monday. This year, I
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Speaker 2: demand they get to the World Series. And I think
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Speaker 2: every listen, you're as close as you were last year.
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Speaker 2: There's no reason not to. There's no reason not to
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Speaker 2: time is now fifty years in get to the damn
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Speaker 2: World Series and you have the team, at least on
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Speaker 2: paper you think can get there, and yet they have
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Speaker 2: a You are a sniff away and you bring you
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Speaker 2: run it back, effectively run it back. Now you've got injuries.
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Speaker 2: We all understand that, every team does. If you want
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Speaker 2: to point out the Cal injury, I'll just point out
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Speaker 2: the fact that maybe Cal's been hurt all year, but
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Speaker 2: Cal hasn't been himself. That's been a problem, and you
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Speaker 2: can't blame Dan for that. No, you can't blame Dan
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Speaker 2: for that. But the end game decisions are I think,
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Speaker 2: what send people sideways? And we'll get to that a
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Speaker 2: little bit. I listened with great interest yesterday on the
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Speaker 2: way home. I didn't hear Friday Show with Jackson and Dick,
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Speaker 2: but I listened with great interest yesterday on something they
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Speaker 2: were talking about I guess on Friday, and that was
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Speaker 2: how do you build an NBA team? And we're going
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Speaker 2: to get the NBA back? All right, let's just let's
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Speaker 2: just cut through all the nonsense and you know all
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Speaker 2: that the team, we're getting a team back. If it
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Speaker 2: doesn't happen, then then you come to me and I'll
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Speaker 2: just say, hey, baby, I was wrong, and I don't
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Speaker 2: want to be wrong in this case. I roote to
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Speaker 2: be wrong. We rooted to be wrong in this show.
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Speaker 2: We don't want to root to be wrong here. But
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Speaker 2: it feels inevitable. We're getting a team back, which is great.
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Speaker 2: Dick brought up, you know, kind of how the the
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Speaker 2: the structure, how Oklahoma City has built what appears to
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Speaker 2: be a team on the brink of going back to
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Speaker 2: back NBA titles. Now they are down one nothing after
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Speaker 2: thankfully Wemby and Company last night got the win in
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Speaker 2: Game one, and okay, see, but they still look to
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Speaker 2: be a heavy favorite to win in consecutive NBA championships.
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Speaker 2: And Dick brought up, basically, how do you know this
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Speaker 2: is how you build a team. I couldn't disagree more
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Speaker 2: on a lot of levels. And it's not just because
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Speaker 2: it's Oklahoma City. But again, part of it is because
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Speaker 2: it's Oklahoma City. We'll get into that a little bit
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Speaker 2: as well. And I got a question for you guys too.
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Speaker 2: I'll just throw the question out there right now. Four
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Speaker 2: nine four or five one on the coma Dodge text line
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Speaker 2: four nine four five one I'll throw it out right now. Also,
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Speaker 2: you can say we had great talkbacks yesterday, A lot
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Speaker 2: of them, A lot of them, A lot of talkbacks.
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Speaker 2: I have to do it alright, heeart radio app red
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Speaker 2: microphone speak thirty seconds or less. We have great talkbacks yesterday.
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Speaker 2: My question is this, do the Oklahoma City Thunder still
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Speaker 2: live rent free in your head? And that's a really
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Speaker 2: negative thing to say, But are you still here in
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Speaker 2: Seattle keeping an eye on what they're doing? Are they
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Speaker 2: kind of living there in your mind right now?
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Speaker 3: Against them? I against them?
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Speaker 2: I do too. I'll get more to that in it.
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Speaker 2: But do they still are they hanging over your head?
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Speaker 2: Are they hanging over you still like that black cloud?
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Speaker 2: Since two thousand and eight? Now we have, I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's been a long damn time. There are a lot
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Speaker 2: of our listeners that don't know. I mean, they don't
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Speaker 2: remember the Sonics. I get it. Let's you're at least
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Speaker 2: thirty years old. You probably don't remember much about Sonic basketball, right,
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Speaker 2: But if you are older than thirty thirty five up,
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Speaker 2: then you do. So my tone has changed a little bit.
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Speaker 2: But then Fane restoked the fire, so screw him, all right,
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Speaker 2: Mariners last night. The headline. Listen, there's a lot of headline.
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Speaker 2: The headline to me simple. My wife even said, like
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Speaker 2: like she walked in. We're watching the highlights on the
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Speaker 2: news this morning, and she's like, oh, he hit the
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Speaker 2: home run. Like everyone knows who cold Emerson is. It's
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Speaker 2: a really cool, exciting story. It's awesome that this kid's up.
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Speaker 2: It's awesome. Were you get excited anytime there's a top
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Speaker 2: prospect that comes into your organization. To the family, was
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Speaker 2: there everything they make it for the first game because
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Speaker 2: it's I mean, basically got called up and he was
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Speaker 2: in Seattle an hour later, but they were there, and
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Speaker 2: his first hit ends up being a three run home run.
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Speaker 2: Marriner's are up three to one at the time. Two
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Speaker 2: on makes it a six to one game, puts it
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Speaker 2: out of reach, and it was awesome, like absolutely fantastic.
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Speaker 2: Now there's a couple of comps the Mariner cent. These
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Speaker 2: are courtesy the Mariners, Alex and crew down there and
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Speaker 2: Jordan and everybody else in the great pr staff sent out.
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Speaker 2: There's a couple of stats that jumped out after that
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Speaker 2: game that I didn't like, but I spelled well one
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Speaker 2: specifically because it was who was attached to right, Like,
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Speaker 2: you're thinking, is this the start of something great? So
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Speaker 2: he's the eleventh player in Mariner history to homer for
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Speaker 2: their first career hit. That sounds cool, right, Like, that's
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Speaker 2: also pretty wild, Like eleven times the first career hit
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Speaker 2: for a Mariner player in his major league debut or
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Speaker 2: his major his first major league hit has been a
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Speaker 2: home run. That seems like a lot. Actually, it's kind
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Speaker 2: of a higher number than I was thought. Yeah, but
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Speaker 2: there's what I didn't like. He's the first since twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty one, a game on March fourteenth against Cleveland. You
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Speaker 2: know who that guy was, Jared Kelnick.
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Speaker 4: Okay, let's not put that stack young or as Nathan.
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Speaker 2: Bishop called him, Kellennick, or his fane would call him Kellenick,
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Speaker 2: but most people call him Kelnick.
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Speaker 5: So I don't like.
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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I didn't like I saw that. I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I don't want.
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Speaker 4: That attached now, curse attached to that.
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Speaker 2: I'll give you a better comp again. Courtesy the Minorst
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Speaker 2: pr staff. He also became the first player in franchise
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Speaker 2: history hit a three run or more home run as
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Speaker 2: his first career home run in the majors. Right, so
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Speaker 2: his first career home run being three or more runs,
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Speaker 2: almost a grand slam in his first career home run
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Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball. Since this is a better camp
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Speaker 2: Julio back in twenty twenty two, I like that staff,
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Speaker 2: So take the pen out, crossout Kelnick's name. I'm going
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Speaker 2: with the Julio comp. I like that. Boom awesome, there
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Speaker 2: he is. That was the headline last night. I'd say
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Speaker 2: the sub headline underneath. If it's the newspaper, which may
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Speaker 2: or may not still exist. I think they still have
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Speaker 2: a newspaper out there, although it's I Actually, you know,
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Speaker 2: when I went to pick one up the other day,
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Speaker 2: at times, I couldn't believe how thin it was.
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Speaker 4: Oh really, I was like, what, I haven't picked up
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Speaker 4: a physical one in a while, unless I'm in a hotel.
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Speaker 3: That's when I pick him up.
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Speaker 2: I do too. Yeah, and we weren't Spokane all those years.
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Speaker 2: It was like, I just get the Spokesman review every morning.
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Speaker 2: Was awesome.
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Speaker 3: Shout out to the Tribune to yeah, tribute.
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Speaker 2: The Tribune is really thin, it is. I mean, Greg
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Speaker 2: greg and John Manley the only sports writers really left.
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Speaker 2: They hold so like I don't know it's it's that
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Speaker 2: thing's a shadow. Anyway, this would have been step headline,
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Speaker 2: and I think almost shares the headline. Yes, the home
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Speaker 2: run was awesome by cold Emerson, I think more importantly,
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Speaker 2: And we'll hear the stuff with those guys in a
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Speaker 2: minute about what's going on the baseball team. Uh, and
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Speaker 2: the manager, Brian Wu was great, absolutely phenomenal last thing.
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Speaker 2: And why was that good? Well, here's the thing. He
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Speaker 2: had a couple really bad starts at Saint Louis net
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Speaker 2: Cap at home against Kansas City Ivember, like two like
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Speaker 2: ones where he kind of got tossed around a little bit,
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Speaker 2: which isn't like him. Since then three great starts in
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Speaker 2: a row. He retired the final eleven batters yesterday and
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Speaker 2: that quality start six scoreless innings. He was dominant, absolutely
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Speaker 2: flat out dominant yesterday. And watching that version of Brian
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Speaker 2: Wu should give every marrin her fan a ton of
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Speaker 2: hope excitement. Whatever the manager situation is, which we'll get into,
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Speaker 2: whatever the injury situation is, you need your guys, your
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Speaker 2: top dudes, to be great. Logan was awful over the weekend.
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Speaker 2: Kirby was awful over the weekend. Brian Wu now has
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Speaker 2: strung three straight starts together after two blips on the
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Speaker 2: radar screen. Before that, he was good too, And you're
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Speaker 2: not gonna be perfect throughout the year. Woo's your ace.
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Speaker 2: He's just flat out your ace right now. And God
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Speaker 2: was he good? Like so good last night? Third like
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Speaker 2: like watch and I love watching him. His compete level
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Speaker 2: is a ten out of a ten.
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Speaker 3: Like he he just is a He just.
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Speaker 2: Has a different gear in terms of his want to
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Speaker 2: and his compete at least it just what appears to
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Speaker 2: be on the mound, and I love that. I think
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Speaker 2: it's got to be. You know, Parada, I thought caught
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Speaker 2: a great game behind the plate, like they had a
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Speaker 2: really good report going you could tell, and after every
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Speaker 2: inning it was like they're just jacked up. And I
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Speaker 2: thought Parada's energy level behind the plate match Wo's I
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Speaker 2: have to ask myself, And this is a Chris and
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Speaker 2: Nathan question, maybe next week or whatever. I think Parada
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Speaker 2: feels to me in some ways like a better option
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Speaker 2: than Garber, who's just not good and all and hasn't
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Speaker 2: been good for two years. But anyway, take that aside.
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Speaker 2: WU was fantastic, absolutely sensational, flat out dominant yesterday. Love
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Speaker 2: seeing it and yes cold Emerson's three run home run.
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Speaker 2: He gets the walk off postgame interview with the hyphen
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Speaker 2: he gets all the accolades and the gatorade and all
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Speaker 2: that stuff. Brian Wu yesterday the most important thing that
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Speaker 2: came out of that three straight starts and was just dominant,
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Speaker 2: especially with whatever they're doing with the whole Bryce Miller,
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Speaker 2: Luis Castel deal trying to figure that stuff out. Gilbert
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Speaker 2: and Kirby coming off too bad.
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Speaker 3: OUTA.
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Speaker 2: Hancock was good Friday, the other two guys not good
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Speaker 2: over the weekend. You need Wu, and Wu delivered in
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Speaker 2: a big, bad way yesterday. It was awesome to see that.
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Speaker 2: To me was what was kind of a more of
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Speaker 2: an unimportant part of the game last night. Julio is
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Speaker 2: still great early start. At least Naylor has really heated up.
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Speaker 2: Three hit at night last night for Josh Naylor, so
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Speaker 2: he likes seeing that all those things. JP still can't
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Speaker 2: play defense. I know people down there are uber sensitive
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Speaker 2: about that. I'm gonna say this again. If you're looking
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Speaker 2: at fielding percentage, you're looking at the wrong stat. Listen
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Speaker 2: to this station. Listen to the Morning Show with Chuck
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Speaker 2: listen to Mollywop. Guys, listen to shean Ino Sarras anybody
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Speaker 2: that knows baseball. You're not looking at fielding percentage. You're
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Speaker 2: looking at all the underlying stats, by those underlying numbers.
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Speaker 2: JP Crawford is not good at shortstop period. End of story,
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Speaker 2: cold Emerson being good. If Brendan Donovan comes back healthy,
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Speaker 2: they're gonna have decisions to make. I mean, JP can hit,
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Speaker 2: you're not taking as bad out of the lineup, but
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Speaker 2: he hurts you defensively. That's that's a fact. And I
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Speaker 2: know that's a sensitive topic for some people. Know you
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Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 3: It would appear he's playing through some things that we don't.
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Speaker 2: Don't he's been bad defensively for a couple of years now.
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Speaker 3: Well, especially compared to what he was.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: I know exactly what you're saying.
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Speaker 2: It's not good. But I love his bat.
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Speaker 3: And he took a baseball player.
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Speaker 2: He's a good hitter.
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Speaker 4: Yess, that's baseball.
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Speaker 2: You got to play the you're playing the most important
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Speaker 2: infield position.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and you're not good. It's very difficult, a.
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Speaker 2: Little spin and throw yesterday, like, ah, what I know,
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Speaker 2: what'll be doing anyway? All good yesterday, all good and
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Speaker 2: cold Emerson cool, the mom and dad in the stands,
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Speaker 2: seventeen family members.
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Speaker 3: That many people get to be there for that. Like
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Speaker 3: you said, he only had like a one hour Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I think he was that his family knows.
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Speaker 2: Was over oh for three before that over two.
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Speaker 4: On Sunday, Sam shows up and look what happens.
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Speaker 2: Free run homer, oh for two, oh for three gets
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Speaker 2: his last at bat eighth. I think, thanks for cut
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Speaker 2: and and you know the thing too that I liked
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Speaker 2: about showed a little pop on that, like it's kind
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Speaker 2: of almost a one hander, and I mean, I know
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Speaker 2: it's short down the right field line and all that,
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Speaker 2: but that was just a it was going to be
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Speaker 2: an extra base hit. At least if he didn't go
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Speaker 2: over the fence, it was gonna be offul wall. He's
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Speaker 2: gonna get a double. I'm assuming he got the ball
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Speaker 2: and all that back I haven't seen. But the guy
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Speaker 2: that caught it, that guy that puts the k's up,
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Speaker 2: Oh that was it bounced up and he caught it
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Speaker 2: in his gloves. So and then they showed it later
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Speaker 2: and he wasn't there, so I'm sure the marriage did
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Speaker 2: a good job. Go hey, let's come on down. What
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Speaker 2: do we gonna do?
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Speaker 3: And they do such a good job of rewarding, we
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Speaker 3: would give the ball back for a significant.
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Speaker 2: Mod Yeah, so that was really cool. Everything about it
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Speaker 2: yesterday was awesome. But the manager is still a concern,
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Speaker 2: all right. The manager is still somewhat of a concern
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Speaker 2: for so many people. So here's what we could do
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Speaker 2: when we can come back. We're gonna play a little
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Speaker 2: bit of yesterday's Mollywop segment with Nathan and Chris and
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Speaker 2: what they had to say about the situation involving Dan Wilson.
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Speaker 2: And it's a simple, simple question. Do the Mariners have
17:31
Speaker 2: a manager problem? Do they have a manager problem? We'll
17:34
Speaker 2: hear from Chris and Nate again. It blew up all
17:36
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17:38
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17:40
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17:43
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17:46
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17:48
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18:38
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. Some people feel like they're surprised. I'm
18:40
Speaker 2: not surprised at all. Tell people all the time, there's
18:44
Speaker 2: a reason that John Foresland is here in Seattle. And
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Speaker 2: we have the best television play by play announcer in
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Speaker 2: the NHL here in Seattle. His name is John Foresland,
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Speaker 2: and there's a reason he's here. And we'll get to
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18:57
Speaker 2: all right. Yeah, Yterday Molly Want Monday went a full hour.
19:03
Speaker 2: We pulled about six seven minutes out of the best
19:06
Speaker 2: of the following topic, which and again, if you've listened
19:10
Speaker 2: to our show, our show is an interesting one because well, no,
19:16
Speaker 2: I think it's just those two guys have this reputation
19:18
Speaker 2: of being, especially Nathan cantankerous, a little bit right and
19:26
Speaker 2: understand that both Nathan and Chris are baseball fans and
19:30
Speaker 2: Mariners fans that care deeply about the team and the sport.
19:35
Speaker 2: They also do it with a pretty good base of knowledge.
19:39
Speaker 2: Two different bases of knowledge in terms of where they
19:41
Speaker 2: come from. I mean, Chris does it for a living
19:42
Speaker 2: with Rotal World. Nathan has a great understanding of statistics
19:47
Speaker 2: and the history and all that. And we even during
19:52
Speaker 2: the Scott Service days, I don't really remember ever going
19:56
Speaker 2: down the road of God should service go? I don't
20:00
Speaker 2: remember that. And Dan there's been a lot of criticism
20:04
Speaker 2: of him, especially after Game seven last year, but even
20:06
Speaker 2: before that, in game decisions and so on and so forth.
20:11
Speaker 2: But after the weekend Sweet by San Diego, there were
20:13
Speaker 2: a lot of people asking and talking about what's going on?
20:17
Speaker 2: What about Dan Wilson. So that was our topic yesterday.
20:20
Speaker 2: Take a listen, get your reaction four nine, four to
20:23
Speaker 2: five to one to this. How culpable or how much
20:28
Speaker 2: of a problem is the manager or is he.
20:32
Speaker 6: He's definitely a problem. How much of a problem he
20:35
Speaker 6: is is subjective, of course, because Dan Wilson is in
20:40
Speaker 6: Rob Reschneider. Dan Wilson isn't Connor, Joe. Dan Wilson isn't
20:44
Speaker 6: Mitch Garver, he isn't Leo Revos, he isn't the guy
20:48
Speaker 6: who has put those players on the roster. But this
20:52
Speaker 6: is what I came back to, and I always.
20:54
Speaker 2: Come back to this.
20:55
Speaker 6: Anytime a team makes a managerial change or any type
20:58
Speaker 6: of coaching change, in any is Dan Wilson making the
21:03
Speaker 6: Mariners better? Because if Dan Wilson is making the Mariners better,
21:07
Speaker 6: this team sucks out loud like it's a really, really
21:11
Speaker 6: bad roster, and then you've got to make talk about
21:13
Speaker 6: making wholesale changes. No, I don't think that this is
21:17
Speaker 6: a really bad roster. I don't think that Dan Wilson
21:21
Speaker 6: has made the Seattle Mariners better even a smidget. Now,
21:24
Speaker 6: if you want to argue that he's what he's doing
21:26
Speaker 6: in the clubhouse, that's so hard to judge because I'm
21:29
Speaker 6: not in there. Nobody's in there. Jerry and Justin are
21:33
Speaker 6: in there, so they have a little bit of an idea.
21:35
Speaker 6: But that's really hard to prove, and it's really hard
21:38
Speaker 6: to prove that a new guy can't do the same
21:40
Speaker 6: thing as well. But the in game decision making and
21:45
Speaker 6: Sunday really frustrated me because I saw a lethargic baseball team.
21:49
Speaker 6: I saw a baseball team that looked like that loss
21:51
Speaker 6: didn't really bug them. And that's really frustrating because it
21:54
Speaker 6: should have. This should have been a you gotta get
21:58
Speaker 6: this w you gotta start, you know, getting some home wins.
22:02
Speaker 6: You gotta at least salvage something here. And they looked lethargic.
22:06
Speaker 6: And that's at least a little bit on the manager.
22:08
Speaker 6: Is it on the twenty six players too, of course,
22:11
Speaker 6: But the answer your question, Dan Wilson is definitely culpable,
22:15
Speaker 6: and Dan Wilson, these are the same issues that we
22:18
Speaker 6: saw when he took over in twenty twenty four. For
22:20
Speaker 6: a lot of twenty twenty five and so far in
22:23
Speaker 6: twenty twenty six, for sure, if you could argue, it's
22:27
Speaker 6: actually gotten worse. So I don't think that they're willing
22:32
Speaker 6: to make a change. I think that Dan Wilson's popularity
22:36
Speaker 6: in the city and with the organization makes this an
22:39
Speaker 6: even more difficult thing.
22:41
Speaker 2: But I'll just be honest with you right now. I
22:43
Speaker 2: had a night to sleep on it.
22:45
Speaker 6: I recorded my video at twelve thirty in the morning
22:47
Speaker 6: because I wanted to take as much time as possible
22:51
Speaker 6: before I ended up recording.
22:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would make the change. I think
22:55
Speaker 2: I would make the decision right now.
22:57
Speaker 6: I probably would have made it after Game seven, to
22:59
Speaker 6: be hones with you, but I would absolutely consider making
23:03
Speaker 6: a managerial change because Dan Wilson is not making the
23:07
Speaker 6: Seattle Mariners better, and that's all I care about. I
23:09
Speaker 6: don't care about him managing the clubhouse. I don't care
23:12
Speaker 6: about the relationships he has with the players. That's important.
23:15
Speaker 6: I believe a new manager can do the same gosh
23:18
Speaker 6: damn thing. Dan Wilson is not making the Seattle Mariners better,
23:22
Speaker 6: and the Mariners need to look at that and decide
23:24
Speaker 6: whether that's good enough. And I can't imagine how you'd
23:27
Speaker 6: say that's good enough.
23:29
Speaker 2: The I'm gonna come back to something you said in there,
23:32
Speaker 2: but Nathan, I'll let you have your sake be I
23:34
Speaker 2: want to circle back in just a heart and a heartbeat.
23:35
Speaker 2: But Dan Wilson, well, there's six.
23:39
Speaker 5: And eleven in one run games. His predecessor was incredibly
23:43
Speaker 5: good in one run games for over a decade. That's
23:47
Speaker 5: not saying Scotts Servis was a perfect manager. He clearly
23:50
Speaker 5: was not no manager is perfect. But I'm looking at
23:53
Speaker 5: this roster and I will grant Dan Wilson this year.
23:56
Speaker 5: That cal Rowley being hurt sucks. That's really hard. As
24:00
Speaker 5: much of a negative as that is, I would say
24:02
Speaker 5: that cal Rawley deciding to have the greatest season in
24:04
Speaker 5: the history of Major League Baseball for a catcher probably
24:07
Speaker 5: maybe obscured some of Dan's weaknesses last year. And having
24:10
Speaker 5: a catcher hit sixty home runs makes you look pretty
24:12
Speaker 5: smart when you're riding the lineup every single day. I
24:15
Speaker 5: don't see the stuff that's happening on this roster right
24:18
Speaker 5: now that makes me think that Dan is dealing with
24:20
Speaker 5: some sort of toxic, unmanageable group of guys. Like I
24:25
Speaker 5: see so many things going right for this team on
24:27
Speaker 5: individual levels. Luke Raley's having a great season. Randio rose
24:31
Speaker 5: Arena has been fantastic, Julio Rodriguez is off to one
24:33
Speaker 5: of his best starts. Josh Naylor after a slow start,
24:36
Speaker 5: is just Josh Naylor again. Cole Young has been promising.
24:38
Speaker 5: Donovan's been fine when he's been healthy. JP Crawford is
24:41
Speaker 5: the worst shortstop of Major League baseball, but he gets
24:44
Speaker 5: on base like an absolute stud and has been one
24:46
Speaker 5: of their more useful bats, Like those things should add
24:50
Speaker 5: up to wins. And you couple it with a rotation
24:52
Speaker 5: that has not been Elee. It has not been Ty
24:54
Speaker 5: twenty three, twenty twenty four, it's still been one of
24:57
Speaker 5: the better and probably the deepest rotation in all of
25:00
Speaker 5: Major League Baseball. You still have Andres Munaz back there
25:03
Speaker 5: to slam the door on close games, and you're six
25:05
Speaker 5: and eleven to one run games, and you're fifteen and
25:07
Speaker 5: twenty five against everybody except the worst frickin' rotation I've
25:11
Speaker 5: ever seen in my life in the Houston Astros. Dude,
25:14
Speaker 5: they are adding five plus five and making it seven.
25:18
Speaker 5: And I don't know if that's not the manager's fault.
25:20
Speaker 2: I don't know what is the man?
25:22
Speaker 5: What is the manager's fault? When can I criticize the manager?
25:26
Speaker 5: If I am watching this team underperformed and just not
25:30
Speaker 5: being able to string together wins making the same stupid decisions,
25:33
Speaker 5: they are getting slaughtered. I did some research on the numbers.
25:36
Speaker 5: They are getting absolutely obliterated in the sixth inning of
25:40
Speaker 5: baseball games, right when they are subbing out their best
25:43
Speaker 5: hitters for their worst hitters, and right when they're trying
25:46
Speaker 5: to transition from their starting pitching to their relief pitching.
25:48
Speaker 5: Those are pivot points that the manager controls, and they
25:51
Speaker 5: are failing every single day, it feels like in that
25:56
Speaker 5: point in the game. And it's just I have nothing
25:59
Speaker 5: against Dan Wilson. I have fond memories of Dan Wilson
26:02
Speaker 5: as a child. He is a Mariner Hall of Famer.
26:05
Speaker 5: He is apparently an eighty grade human being that everybody
26:09
Speaker 5: who talks to says he's a wonderful man. I bear
26:11
Speaker 5: him no ill will. The process through which he was hired,
26:16
Speaker 5: the fact that there was apparently no vetting of any
26:19
Speaker 5: kind or any sort of search before he was hired,
26:22
Speaker 5: coupled with the obvious struggles they're going to come from
26:25
Speaker 5: somebody that's never managed in baseball before, and seeing it
26:29
Speaker 5: play out like this at what is at least the
26:33
Speaker 5: best championship window this organization has had in twenty five years,
26:36
Speaker 5: if not ever, it's really it's both very very on
26:41
Speaker 5: brand for the Seattle Mariners and deeply frustrating as somebody
26:44
Speaker 5: who would really like them to win.
26:46
Speaker 2: And that's Nathan and Chris the whole Mollywop Hours Yesterday's
26:50
Speaker 2: On Yesterday's show is a podcast iHeartRadio app. Go just
26:52
Speaker 2: check it out. It's they were The two of them
26:54
Speaker 2: are great yesterday. They always are, but they were really
26:56
Speaker 2: good yesterday about everything, including that subject.
26:59
Speaker 7: So they.
27:05
Speaker 2: I think the one thing that that Dan Wilson part
27:07
Speaker 2: of the fallout is this, and Dick and Softie talked
27:12
Speaker 2: about it yesterday as well. They brought it up, they
27:14
Speaker 2: did a poll question all that fun stuff, and you know,
27:17
Speaker 2: I kind of asked, was asking myself, and somebody asked
27:19
Speaker 2: me about this, like why is it such a hot topic. Well,
27:22
Speaker 2: I think it's simple, and it's not because they've been
27:25
Speaker 2: hovering around five hundred all season and in a bad division,
27:29
Speaker 2: in a bad league, kind of underachieving. I think more
27:32
Speaker 2: than anything is because people look at the bigger pictures,
27:35
Speaker 2: the expectations for this team, the twenty twenty six Seattle Mariners,
27:40
Speaker 2: They've never probably been higher, and that includes coming off
27:42
Speaker 2: the old one season into two thousand and two or
27:45
Speaker 2: ninety five, or even after the twenty twenty two season.
27:48
Speaker 2: I don't think the expectations have ever been higher for
27:51
Speaker 2: this baseball team, and rightfully so. And with expectations come
27:56
Speaker 2: the demand of fulfilling those and I think it is
28:00
Speaker 2: very fair question to ask, is Dan Wilson the right
28:04
Speaker 2: guy to lead this team this season to get to
28:08
Speaker 2: the pinnacle. He may be, he may be. I just
28:12
Speaker 2: hear too many people who's baseball IQ acumen understanding. I
28:20
Speaker 2: hear too many people question Dan and listen, I really
28:25
Speaker 2: like Dan Wilson the human being. I you know, I've
28:30
Speaker 2: I really do. We're not friends, we're not buddies, we're
28:34
Speaker 2: not texting, But like many of us in the media,
28:36
Speaker 2: they've been around for a while, We've we've you know,
28:38
Speaker 2: known Dan, talked to Dan, been around Dan. I'm not
28:42
Speaker 2: around it every day anymore. But I like him a
28:45
Speaker 2: lot and quality human being. And here's the thing I
28:50
Speaker 2: did a little bit, a little bit of digging around today.
28:53
Speaker 2: Everything we hear about how popular he is in the clubhouse,
28:55
Speaker 2: it's one hundred percent true. Yeah, players like him.
28:59
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you just go back to last year.
29:01
Speaker 2: Well, the reason that Service got let go, Nate brought
29:04
Speaker 2: it up. Service was great in one run games. Wilson's
29:07
Speaker 2: not in game managing. Service was probably a better manager,
29:11
Speaker 2: but the relationships weren't good in the clubhouse compared to
29:13
Speaker 2: where they are with Dan. Dan's a better relationship guys.
29:17
Speaker 2: That's the kind of the thing, like, if you were
29:19
Speaker 2: to make a change at some point this season, does
29:22
Speaker 2: that actually become counterproductive? What's the trade off?
29:25
Speaker 8: Right?
29:26
Speaker 2: Is the trade off? Hey, maybe we have a better
29:28
Speaker 2: guy in game that understands the matchups sometimes going with
29:34
Speaker 2: feel as opposed to a number whatever, be whatever the
29:37
Speaker 2: manager has to do. Maybe you're better off. Maybe you
29:40
Speaker 2: have a better let's just call it a technical manager.
29:43
Speaker 2: But I think you'd be hard pressed to find a
29:44
Speaker 2: better relationship manager. And so then what happens at that point?
29:48
Speaker 2: Do you take a step back because of that? Maybe
29:51
Speaker 2: certainly could, and I don't think you want to do that.
29:54
Speaker 2: That's so that's kind of what you're balancing right now.
29:57
Speaker 2: If you're in that front office, you see things happen
30:00
Speaker 2: in game and you're like, oh my god, like that
30:02
Speaker 2: just feels like a colossal air and a mistake and
30:04
Speaker 2: this and that. And then at the same time, the
30:07
Speaker 2: players they love this guy, respect this guy. So that's
30:13
Speaker 2: where the balancing act comes in. But the question, and
30:16
Speaker 2: this is why I think it's a really fair question,
30:18
Speaker 2: is he the right guy to lead this particular team
30:21
Speaker 2: to where it needs to be? This season and where
30:23
Speaker 2: it needs to be. People are World Series great at
30:27
Speaker 2: bare minimum. This team needs to get at bare minimum.
30:31
Speaker 2: This team needs to get back to the ALCS. If
30:33
Speaker 2: they don't get back to the ALCS, the seasons of failure, Yeah,
30:36
Speaker 2: that's because because it's a step back, a step back
30:42
Speaker 2: four nine four five one. Also, the talkback is there
30:44
Speaker 2: forty as well. By the way, the talkbacks, where's Clifford been?
30:47
Speaker 2: I know you're not playing. We've got some tennis thing
30:51
Speaker 2: going on now instead of the Clifford shows. So I
30:52
Speaker 2: don't know if Clifford did he get canceled.
30:55
Speaker 3: Maybe it was because of the talkbacks we got.
30:57
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe, who knows. I'm not sure what happen
31:00
Speaker 2: in there, but I don't like it all right, Uh,
31:02
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Speaker 2: at it, Ladies and gentlemen, back at it. I don't
31:52
Speaker 2: want to make light of this because it's good people
31:54
Speaker 2: losing jobs. But a lot of well you've seen it, Yeah,
31:58
Speaker 2: a lot of reports coming out of Portland today that
32:01
Speaker 2: Tom Dundon, the new owner of the Portland Trail Blazers,
32:04
Speaker 2: has they've started our initials initiated around the layoffs. Seventy
32:10
Speaker 2: at least seventy is the number from a couple of
32:12
Speaker 2: different people I've spoken to, and I'm kind of seeing
32:15
Speaker 2: out there on social media as well, but around seventy
32:17
Speaker 2: plus and it's just starting. People have been laid off
32:20
Speaker 2: by Dundon with the Blazers front office. This is a
32:25
Speaker 2: guy that of course famously already has said he doesn't
32:27
Speaker 2: want to pay I mean, it's just and then there's
32:31
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to pay market value for a new coach.
32:34
Speaker 2: He which You're in the NBA, man, You're in a
32:44
Speaker 2: league that makes money, has a great media righte steal.
32:48
Speaker 2: You're not cutting corners. It's I've mentioned this before. There's
32:54
Speaker 2: a reason that John Foresln is here in Seattle of
32:56
Speaker 2: the Kraken. We all know it's not a secret. John.
33:00
Speaker 2: Like when he took over the Canes the Hurricanes, they
33:06
Speaker 2: cut back. They didn't want to pay market value for
33:08
Speaker 2: good people, including Johnny who's as good as it gets.
33:12
Speaker 2: And they ended up doing a simulcast with radio and TV,
33:15
Speaker 2: which does not serve anyone well, and bumped a guy up.
33:20
Speaker 2: That's okay, he ain't John Good dude, really good dude.
33:25
Speaker 2: The radio guy got bumped up. And you know, FORESLN said,
33:30
Speaker 2: I don't even know how these specifics, if he was
33:33
Speaker 2: given the opportunity to take a cut or whatever, but
33:35
Speaker 2: he ends up coming to Seattle and it's our gain,
33:38
Speaker 2: their loss. That's just a small part of it. Everyone
33:42
Speaker 2: had been around the Hurricanes sell their cheap organization. Yes,
33:46
Speaker 2: they're in an Eastern Conference finals of the Stanley Cup playoffs.
33:48
Speaker 2: On the ice, they've been good. Why great GM, great coach,
33:55
Speaker 2: make good decisions. I hit on a couple of draft
33:58
Speaker 2: picks that that's why. Don't look at the on ice success.
34:03
Speaker 2: Look how he runs an organization. Seventy people laid off today.
34:10
Speaker 2: Seventy and that's in an NBA front office and that's
34:15
Speaker 2: not basketball ops. That's a significant number. They've probably got
34:19
Speaker 2: a I mean, I'm just thinking in terms of what
34:22
Speaker 2: we have, maybe one hundred and fifty. That's probably thirty
34:25
Speaker 2: forty percent of their staff they laid off is cheap, right, cheaple.
34:33
Speaker 3: I mean we've already seen that.
34:34
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you the playbook. And this is what
34:36
Speaker 2: just makes me infuriates me about the NBA, and I
34:38
Speaker 2: just kind of look around and saying, are we still
34:40
Speaker 2: going to have a team come here? I think? So
34:42
Speaker 2: we're talking about that next segment about the Oklahoma city
34:44
Speaker 2: being in our head still the.
34:45
Speaker 3: Pukes, the pukes.
34:47
Speaker 2: The Casey Holdalls there has been their digital reporter for
34:52
Speaker 2: their website for about twenty years, almost twenty years he
34:55
Speaker 2: was working for a different outlet when I was down there.
34:58
Speaker 2: I've never seen a guy have more passion for his
34:59
Speaker 2: jo I did a better job with it than Casey.
35:02
Speaker 9: Uh.
35:02
Speaker 2: He for people that I'm just trying to get it
35:06
Speaker 2: and see how that would be the equivalent of John
35:08
Speaker 2: Boyle for Seahawks dot com. John, that's a phenomenal, phenomenal job.
35:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, and which which is great too because he tells
35:17
Speaker 4: really good stories as an insider and you.
35:20
Speaker 2: Know a lot of the time, pere are you going
35:21
Speaker 2: to cover your own team? Well, but are you going
35:24
Speaker 2: to cover your own team? That's a question like are
35:26
Speaker 2: you how are you going to cover your own team?
35:27
Speaker 7: You like that guy like you.
35:29
Speaker 2: You can control the narrative. But Casey anyway, So this
35:34
Speaker 2: is so just taxings and people that in Portland. This
35:38
Speaker 2: is the Clayton Bennett playbook. We talked about it in
35:41
Speaker 2: two thousand and six when he bought the team. When
35:45
Speaker 2: he bought the team in O six, man, I'll tell
35:47
Speaker 2: you I was listening to that was like early stages
35:49
Speaker 2: if you can listen on the computer. And when when
35:52
Speaker 2: when that dipstick Bennett bought the team from Howard Schultzen
35:54
Speaker 2: O six, I sat there, Actually, well, gonna take a break.
35:59
Speaker 2: I'll get in this because they'll morph into the Oklahoma
36:01
Speaker 2: City stuff Joe sheanat two twenty at one. I don't
36:05
Speaker 2: want to get into it now. I'd rather no. I
36:07
Speaker 2: just rather kind of make sure I cross because I'm
36:10
Speaker 2: getting all kinds of text from people, from people in Portland,
36:12
Speaker 2: for those who don't know, I worked there for six years,
36:15
Speaker 2: and well it's a source. It's just people are telling me, honestly,
36:19
Speaker 2: just friends just saying, oh my god, it is two
36:24
Speaker 2: different people. This is the Clayton Bennett playbook from six
36:28
Speaker 2: and we all know how that ended for Seattle. I'm
36:32
Speaker 2: so disappointed in the NBA, and I'll tell you why.
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion. You might remembered him. He's pretty good.
37:16
Speaker 2: Last season, got his trophy for being the Offensive Player
37:18
Speaker 2: of the Year. Sort of, it's a defensive Player.
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Speaker 7: Of the Year.
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Speaker 2: NFL screwed up. They're gonna send him a new trophy. NFL. Also,
37:24
Speaker 2: by the way, just a short time ago, they have
37:29
Speaker 2: voted to measure to increase the cap in international games
37:32
Speaker 2: from eight to ten in twenty twenty seven could actually
37:35
Speaker 2: have eleven because that does not include Jacksonville's annual game
37:37
Speaker 2: at Wembley Stadium, more international boo Ian says. Boo also
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Speaker 2: the NFL eliminating team's ability to protect games against specific
37:48
Speaker 2: home opponents from being played abroad. Until now, they could
37:52
Speaker 2: protect two home games each year, So one of that's interesting.
37:55
Speaker 2: I wonder what the forty nine ers must not have
37:57
Speaker 2: protected the Rams game. They must have just protected Seattle.
37:59
Speaker 2: That was weird anyway. That's what's going on there with
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Speaker 2: the NFL. NHL Canadians over the Savers Game seven in
38:04
Speaker 2: overtime last night. Free to the final. Montreal and Carolina
38:07
Speaker 2: start Thursday. Eastern Conference Finals. Golden Knights and Avs. Game
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Speaker 2: one of the Western Conference Finals is tomorrow. They get
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Speaker 2: Conference Finals. God please wanted you to be good enough
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Speaker 2: to knock off Oklahoma City? Please Knicks? Probably maybe no Calves.
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Speaker 7: No.
38:28
Speaker 2: Michael Wilbaum called it the JV Series. Spurs and the
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Speaker 2: Pukes face off in Game two tomorrow. San Antonio did
38:33
Speaker 2: take a win yesterday in double overtime. When may we
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39:03
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39:06
Speaker 2: I didn't want to get into this in the last
39:08
Speaker 2: couple of seconds before we went to the top of
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Speaker 2: the hour. In the last segment, Joe Shehina won twenty Today,
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Speaker 2: John lond at two o'clock, the worst owner in sports
39:15
Speaker 2: is at it again. El Chipo. Tom Dundon there in
39:17
Speaker 2: Portland laying off seventy people. And I brought this up.
39:22
Speaker 2: By the way, John Canzon is gonna be on this tomorrow.
39:24
Speaker 2: We had them schedule anyway. We talks from college football,
39:27
Speaker 2: but Dundon bought the This is why I'm disappointing the NBA.
39:32
Speaker 2: This guy's reputation was there. Everyone knew about him. First
39:35
Speaker 2: of all, he made his money with high interest loans
39:38
Speaker 2: on people that couldn't get normal loans on cars, like
39:41
Speaker 2: just greasy, greasy business, greasy job, greasy person, cheap owner
39:45
Speaker 2: with the Carolina Hurricanes. Everyone knew that in the NHL,
39:49
Speaker 2: and the NBA let him in the club. So he
39:51
Speaker 2: lays off seventy people today and just kind of going
39:56
Speaker 2: back and forth with a number of people down there
40:00
Speaker 2: that I still keep in contact with for my time.
40:03
Speaker 2: It's a really bad day. It's what everybody had feared
40:07
Speaker 2: it and my disappointment the NBA and looking ahead to
40:10
Speaker 2: how it affects us here in Seattle. How in God's
40:14
Speaker 2: name do they let this guy in the club? How
40:18
Speaker 2: did they approve this guy as an owner? And it's
40:22
Speaker 2: not like he put four billion dollars of his own
40:25
Speaker 2: money into the team. He's technically the majority owner. I
40:31
Speaker 2: think he has fifteen percent, so it's not like he
40:36
Speaker 2: had that kind of financial wherewithal in the first place.
40:39
Speaker 2: But what worries me with a team coming here, I
40:43
Speaker 2: believe effectively at some point what worries me is Ver's
40:49
Speaker 2: two things. Everything he is doing is out of the
40:52
Speaker 2: Clayton Bennett two thousand and six playbook. And to refresh
40:56
Speaker 2: your memory. God, I'll never forget this day. I'll never
41:01
Speaker 2: forget this day, the spring of six when that puke
41:07
Speaker 2: Coward Schultz sold the Sonics in forty one years of
41:10
Speaker 2: history at that time, it was thirty nine years to
41:15
Speaker 2: Clayton Bennett. It was the early days of KJR being
41:19
Speaker 2: able to listen online. It was the early days of that.
41:24
Speaker 2: And I remember flipping on the computer. I was in
41:27
Speaker 2: Portland at home, and I must have don an early show,
41:31
Speaker 2: but I remember I remember listening that afternoon to gros
41:34
Speaker 2: and Gas and Groz is like, this is a bad day.
41:38
Speaker 2: This is a bad day. And I think it was
41:40
Speaker 2: even the press conference day. And he got up there,
41:43
Speaker 2: Clayton Bennett, and he tried to say the right things
41:45
Speaker 2: and everyone was seeing through it. He is from and
41:48
Speaker 2: was from Oklahoma City. They had bailed out the NBA
41:52
Speaker 2: with Hurricane Katrina and letting the New Orleans team play
41:56
Speaker 2: there during that year when the city was devastated by
42:00
Speaker 2: the hurricane. He was kind of old one, I guess
42:07
Speaker 2: by David Stern in the NBA, the Sonics were trying
42:11
Speaker 2: to figure out the Key Arena Nightmare and mess it
42:14
Speaker 2: wasn't giving them what they needed to in terms of
42:16
Speaker 2: revenue streams, and Howard had an ego, it got bruised
42:19
Speaker 2: and he sold the team out from just everything that happened,
42:22
Speaker 2: and Clayton Bennett had his thing. And I remember listening
42:24
Speaker 2: to gros and Gas that day on this station, and
42:27
Speaker 2: Groz specifically like, this is a bad day. This is
42:32
Speaker 2: a really bad day. The playbook is simple, guy from
42:37
Speaker 2: out of town with no local connections, buy something, and
42:43
Speaker 2: in the back of his mind the thought of moving
42:46
Speaker 2: is there. I think Bennett was a lot more intent
42:48
Speaker 2: on moving. I think that was a given. But the
42:51
Speaker 2: playbook of Clayton Ben and six cut back broadcasting, cut
42:57
Speaker 2: back staff, any money on marketing, demand a new arena,
43:03
Speaker 2: demand everything you can from a city in a state
43:06
Speaker 2: that you know you're not going to get. And the
43:08
Speaker 2: terrifying part, the absolutely terrifying part of all of that,
43:13
Speaker 2: there were three years left on the lease in Seattle.
43:18
Speaker 2: They fulfilled too, bought out the final one. They're three
43:23
Speaker 2: years left on the lease in Portland for the Motor Center.
43:26
Speaker 2: Now they're trying to get stuff done. They're kind of
43:30
Speaker 2: their first in goal, if you want to use the
43:32
Speaker 2: football analogy, in terms of getting their financing done. But
43:38
Speaker 2: a couple of guys I texted down there, I said,
43:43
Speaker 2: and they said, boy, this sounds a lot like what
43:44
Speaker 2: happened in Seattle. And I kind of spelled it out
43:47
Speaker 2: and I said, layoffs, cutbacks, marketing, broadcasting, all the things
43:51
Speaker 2: that are fan friendly, all while inheriting a lease it
43:55
Speaker 2: has just three years left. Yes, yes, and yes. It
43:57
Speaker 2: was a response of one of their insiders down there
43:59
Speaker 2: that I trust the NBA, WE hope is coming to Seattle.
44:05
Speaker 2: What worries me is that I believe. I think I
44:10
Speaker 2: hope that Sam Holloway and the One Roof group will
44:18
Speaker 2: be the leaders to get a team back. Now, somebody
44:22
Speaker 2: else could come in and the NBA could say, yeah,
44:25
Speaker 2: we want to have separate ownership from there, that could happen.
44:28
Speaker 2: I don't think it will. I think it makes no sense.
44:30
Speaker 2: I think it's really hard to think about that because
44:33
Speaker 2: they would have to deal with Sam as far as
44:35
Speaker 2: the lease is concerned, like she'd be licking her chops, going, Okay,
44:38
Speaker 2: they didn't give me a team, but you're gonna come
44:40
Speaker 2: get a lease from me, okay. As the great Rashid Wallace,
44:44
Speaker 2: the great philosopher Rashid Wallace said CTC cut the check
44:49
Speaker 2: cost him a lot of money, but it could. And
44:52
Speaker 2: if they'll let this guy in the league, who else
44:54
Speaker 2: might they let in the league? Who else may they say? Yeah, Man, absolutely,
45:00
Speaker 2: come on in. You can own an NBA team. That's
45:03
Speaker 2: what scares me here now. I feel really emotional about
45:07
Speaker 2: it because I know a lot of people still work
45:08
Speaker 2: down there in that organization, in that city. I know
45:11
Speaker 2: they love their basketball team, and I'd be worried as
45:13
Speaker 2: hell right now. I'd be terrified right now that that
45:16
Speaker 2: team's gonna leave. Terrified. And if that's how the NBA
45:22
Speaker 2: is doing business these days, man, that's a problem letting
45:25
Speaker 2: this guy in the club. But it's there's just so
45:30
Speaker 2: many similarities. I'm just I've got these harsh flashbacks to
45:34
Speaker 2: listening to Graz and Gas that day in six and
45:37
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, No, no.
45:40
Speaker 3: Way, there's no way this is gonna happen.
45:42
Speaker 2: There's no way that could happen. Why would that happen?
45:45
Speaker 2: How could that happen? Well, there's the Sonics. It's our
45:48
Speaker 2: first team here. They'll never leave. Bennett's going to do
45:51
Speaker 2: the right thing. Oh wait a second, we're cutting back,
45:56
Speaker 2: We're cutting our front office. We're getting rid of our
45:59
Speaker 2: radio play by play guy. We're gonna go off of
46:02
Speaker 2: a sports station and go on to some weird conservative
46:05
Speaker 2: no signal at night conservative talk station. We're not gonna
46:08
Speaker 2: spend one dollar on marketing or advertising. We're gonna basically
46:11
Speaker 2: do everything we can to get the fans to go
46:14
Speaker 2: away and not come.
46:15
Speaker 3: Don't talk to Kevin Durant.
46:16
Speaker 2: By the way, Well, Kevin Durant got They got lucky
46:19
Speaker 2: with Kevin Durant. They won, they got number two in
46:22
Speaker 2: the lottery, and the damn lucky they did because I
46:24
Speaker 2: don't I know Sam Press, he's the smartest man in
46:25
Speaker 2: America these days. I know everyone thinks he's the smartest guy.
46:28
Speaker 2: They probably would have done the same thing Portland did.
46:30
Speaker 2: They would have taken Greg Godin. But they get Kevin
46:32
Speaker 2: Durant and he goes Oklahoma City that aside, and they
46:35
Speaker 2: got Jeff Green that same draft, and then Abaka in
46:38
Speaker 2: Westbrook the next year, who never played here, but and
46:42
Speaker 2: Harden blah blah blah. But Tom, it's the Tom Dunnet
46:47
Speaker 2: playbook in Portland is the Clayton Bennett playbook from two
46:49
Speaker 2: thousand and six. Listening to this station God, I wish
46:51
Speaker 2: we still had great archives and we could go back
46:53
Speaker 2: and listen to that, because I'll just never forget listening
46:54
Speaker 2: to Graz that day and I was just like, oh
46:56
Speaker 2: my god, no way, Graz, you can't be right.
46:59
Speaker 7: He was right. He was right.
47:02
Speaker 2: And the terms of the least are what terrify me
47:04
Speaker 2: the most. Number two on that list. As we get
47:07
Speaker 2: ready to get our team here, what really worries me
47:13
Speaker 2: is who the NBA is letting into the club these days.
47:17
Speaker 2: Hopefully it's Sam Holloway and her group. I'd feel good
47:21
Speaker 2: about that. If I was a Seattle sports fan, you
47:23
Speaker 2: got to be rooting for that right now because the
47:26
Speaker 2: fear of the unknown. There's other people out there that
47:29
Speaker 2: look at things like there's an investment. Now you get
47:32
Speaker 2: an expansion team. It's like they're moving their expansion team.
47:34
Speaker 2: They come here, But how would they run things? How
47:37
Speaker 2: would they run things? One thing I can tell you
47:40
Speaker 2: about how they do things out there at kCi with
47:46
Speaker 2: the arena, the climate plage arena, and the hockey team
47:49
Speaker 2: and the organization. Yes, they have not won as much
47:52
Speaker 2: as they should.
47:53
Speaker 7: That has to change.
47:55
Speaker 2: Jason Bottrel has to change that. This year has to period,
47:58
Speaker 2: end of story. To me, I think he's got a year.
48:03
Speaker 2: I've changed coaches enough. This guy's been there since day one.
48:07
Speaker 2: You gotta win. You got to find a way to win.
48:08
Speaker 2: Build a better team on the ice, but off the ice,
48:11
Speaker 2: everything everything that they do that she does, that Todd
48:16
Speaker 2: la Wiki does that, Victor the Bonus does or Rob
48:19
Speaker 2: Lentman does, all the people to beyond the scenes that
48:20
Speaker 2: maybe you don't know that run the show is first
48:22
Speaker 2: class and it's for the fans. They took a hit
48:26
Speaker 2: going off of a regional sports network which actually probably
48:30
Speaker 2: officially crushed route. They took a hit financially to make
48:34
Speaker 2: it more accessible so you could watch games easier and
48:37
Speaker 2: create their own network. They cut ticket prices, they cut
48:40
Speaker 2: concessions for to season ticket holders. They do things the
48:43
Speaker 2: right way, and they don't have a day in which
48:47
Speaker 2: they lay seventy five people off in her front office
48:49
Speaker 2: like this guy just did. The NBA has an issue.
48:56
Speaker 7: I'm just.
48:59
Speaker 2: It's it's Gary, Like, who are they let in the
49:01
Speaker 2: club next? Hopefully? Hopefully? But God is the Clayton Bennett playbook?
49:05
Speaker 7: Man?
49:06
Speaker 2: God is it the Clayton Bennett playbook?
49:07
Speaker 4: It is?
49:08
Speaker 2: It is right on it is so on point. All right,
49:11
Speaker 2: I'm not even get to the Oklahoma City Stuff'll get
49:12
Speaker 2: that tomorrow. Here's what we'll do, come back plenty to
49:17
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Speaker 2: of moments as well. Hi Joe, how are you well?
50:40
Speaker 10: How do I sound? Ian?
50:41
Speaker 2: You sound better? I think you sound better. I think
50:44
Speaker 2: you sound better.
50:45
Speaker 4: Yeah.
50:45
Speaker 10: So I'm glad because I'm not sure if you know this,
50:48
Speaker 10: but I got yelled at last week. Bye come on,
50:53
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, dude, look, trust me a beautiful money something
50:56
Speaker 10: yelling at me. That's just a Tuesday for me. I'm
50:58
Speaker 10: used to that. But I just want to make sure
51:01
Speaker 10: that I've done this right and I don't have her
51:03
Speaker 10: met at.
51:04
Speaker 2: Here's first of all, welcome to the club.
51:09
Speaker 3: I demand greatness from everyone, and welcome.
51:11
Speaker 2: Welcome to the club. You know she's got joke. I'll
51:14
Speaker 2: give you a little I'll give her grace this particular
51:17
Speaker 2: week because she's got a little bit of an issue going.
51:20
Speaker 2: On Friday, I lost my show, at least the last
51:25
Speaker 2: hour of my show. On Friday, I finished last in
51:28
Speaker 2: the Neighborhood Fantasy Football League. And my punishment is these
51:31
Speaker 2: guys are going to do an hour of my show.
51:33
Speaker 3: On Friday, and Okay, I have to deal with it, Joe.
51:38
Speaker 2: So I said to our program director, I said, hey,
51:40
Speaker 2: this is He's like really like he's as he rolls
51:43
Speaker 2: his eyes looks at me and I can kind of
51:46
Speaker 2: read his mind. He's like, it's either you or Softy.
51:48
Speaker 2: Every day causes me more gray hairs. It's one of
51:51
Speaker 2: you two. And I'm like, yeah, I'm thinking that too
51:53
Speaker 2: rich and he says, that's fine.
51:55
Speaker 7: Just just is in charge.
51:56
Speaker 2: That's that was That's how he left it.
51:58
Speaker 7: So I met.
51:58
Speaker 2: I said, yes, you're in charge now. Well, these guys
52:01
Speaker 2: have actually been doing show meetings and prepping and talking
52:04
Speaker 2: to her several texts, which is more than I ever do, Joe.
52:08
Speaker 2: So she's a little stressed this week. So I do
52:10
Speaker 2: appreciate the audio being corrected. And I think we're all
52:13
Speaker 2: in a good spot right now, except for Jess on Friday.
52:16
Speaker 10: Well, back it up a second. How'd you finish last
52:18
Speaker 10: in the league? Aren't you a sports radio football expert?
52:21
Speaker 2: Have you ever done roch history baseball?
52:25
Speaker 10: Yeah?
52:25
Speaker 2: Did you finish first every time?
52:28
Speaker 7: What?
52:28
Speaker 11: Sorry, you're breaking up.
52:31
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. I don't finish I know. Well, listen, I
52:38
Speaker 2: got a trophy to my name. I have won money
52:40
Speaker 2: over the years, but this was this was just a
52:42
Speaker 2: bad I think there was a little fix on it too,
52:45
Speaker 2: because it was like weird, little weird, little consolation bracket
52:48
Speaker 2: stuff that took place. And next thing, you know, hey,
52:51
Speaker 2: we're doing your show. And I'm like, Okay, that's great.
52:53
Speaker 2: I got bullied into it. But whatever, what's the worst
52:56
Speaker 2: that could happen. Well, I guess I could lose my
52:57
Speaker 2: job anyway. We'll see how I go supposed So, yes,
53:00
Speaker 2: Jessamine and you have come together.
53:02
Speaker 7: Audio is good.
53:03
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing, Joe, I should mention with this
53:05
Speaker 2: before we get into baseball. Every week we get texts
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Speaker 2: on our text line four nine four five one. People
53:11
Speaker 2: really enjoy the segment. You you yourself have told me.
53:14
Speaker 2: People have subscribed to the newsletter since the segment restarted.
53:17
Speaker 2: They want to hear you. They want to hear you.
53:19
Speaker 2: So that's a good thing.
53:21
Speaker 10: So, jess Am I coming on Friday to replace him then?
53:24
Speaker 3: Or what would you like to join us? Because I
53:26
Speaker 3: could use all the help I could get.
53:28
Speaker 2: Now, well, she's gonna have our family, she's gonna have
53:31
Speaker 2: our fantasy football insider on I think for a segment
53:33
Speaker 2: or for a few minutes, and now he might be
53:35
Speaker 2: to blame as much as anything right now, Fundston is
53:37
Speaker 2: So we'll get to we'll get to his issue later on.
53:39
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to it's Joe. I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
53:43
Speaker 2: You wrote about the Mariners, and uh, I think you
53:45
Speaker 2: told us you could write about them last week right
53:47
Speaker 2: after we had John, so like the next day it
53:49
Speaker 2: got posted under the mirrors. Why is it happening. Let's
53:53
Speaker 2: let's get into this a little bit, and I'll there's
53:55
Speaker 2: a couple of other things I want to touch base on,
53:57
Speaker 2: But what is going on with our baseball team? Yes,
54:00
Speaker 2: they're coming off a win last night, but swept by
54:01
Speaker 2: the Padres against everybody besides the Astros. There ten games now,
54:06
Speaker 2: nine games below five hundred. What does Joe she and
54:08
Speaker 2: see with this baseball team?
54:11
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm not that worried. If you dig in their
54:15
Speaker 10: you know, they outscored their opponents by eleven runs, which
54:17
Speaker 10: means that they're probably more of a slightly above five
54:19
Speaker 10: hundred team than they've shown. I believe. When I checked
54:22
Speaker 10: last week there were seven and ten in one run
54:25
Speaker 10: plus extra in game. So there's six and eleven, so
54:27
Speaker 10: it must not have been the six and eleven in
54:29
Speaker 10: one run games. They're one in four in extra inning games.
54:32
Speaker 10: It's really just the case of early in the season.
54:34
Speaker 10: They've lost a lot of close games. Obviously the top
54:36
Speaker 10: of the lineup not hitting has been a problem for them,
54:38
Speaker 10: but you look, the back of the lineup has been fantastic.
54:41
Speaker 10: Rarely Canzone I'm not I mean they will Crawford up
54:43
Speaker 10: to the leadoff spot now, I mean he's putting up
54:45
Speaker 10: a three sixty MVP. They have a depth that has
54:48
Speaker 10: not been there previous year. We used talk about the
54:50
Speaker 10: Mariners offense and oh it's three Gyalough two guys before
54:53
Speaker 10: they got Nailer and nobody else. And now really they
54:55
Speaker 10: have depth and we're just waiting for the front line
54:57
Speaker 10: guys to really step up. So I think looking ahead,
55:01
Speaker 10: I think the Marriers I said start of the year
55:03
Speaker 10: they were I think the second best team in the
55:04
Speaker 10: American League. I had the running away with the American
55:06
Speaker 10: League West. I just don't think all of those things
55:08
Speaker 10: can be true. Especially they're gonna get healthier here too.
55:10
Speaker 10: I believe Brash Inspire might be back by the end
55:12
Speaker 10: of the month, and that's really going to fill this
55:15
Speaker 10: problem they've had at the back of the bullpen. We'll
55:17
Speaker 10: eventually get cal rally back. I do think that we're
55:21
Speaker 10: going to get better out of nail Or. I think
55:23
Speaker 10: to Julia Rodriguez, who's this is not his typical first half,
55:26
Speaker 10: he's actually hitting in the first half. I think if
55:28
Speaker 10: he can build on that as well. So the standings
55:31
Speaker 10: are what they are, the record is what they are,
55:33
Speaker 10: But I would still say the Mariners are clearly the
55:36
Speaker 10: favorite in the division that really only has two true contenders.
55:40
Speaker 2: The one run stat We brought this up because one
55:43
Speaker 2: of the things that Scott servis his teams at least
55:46
Speaker 2: were really good at was winning one run games. Like
55:48
Speaker 2: they were really good in that. I know you wrote
55:50
Speaker 2: something about the Saint Louis Cardinals. They're twenty seven to
55:52
Speaker 2: nineteen one run games, aren't they like like ten ten
55:57
Speaker 2: and three? Yeah, there is ten and three something ridiculous. Yeah,
56:00
Speaker 2: do look is that number because we've used that a
56:03
Speaker 2: lot in this town service and now with Wilson as
56:06
Speaker 2: the managers. Are one run games indicative statistically over the
56:10
Speaker 2: course of a season of anything or is it just luck?
56:13
Speaker 2: How does that work.
56:14
Speaker 10: It's noise. I mean there was a stretch where the say,
56:17
Speaker 10: the Angels had a good run under Sosia. But if
56:20
Speaker 10: you just the studies have been done and I wish
56:22
Speaker 10: I had the links in front of me. Actually, these
56:24
Speaker 10: studies go back to when we used to print put
56:26
Speaker 10: things in books. But there is no skill in how
56:29
Speaker 10: you shape your runs. Teams are teams score runs. They
56:33
Speaker 10: can prevent runs, but they can't shape and say, okay,
56:35
Speaker 10: we're gonna give up three tonight, we're gonna score four,
56:38
Speaker 10: we're giving up seven, we're gonna get to eight. Teams
56:40
Speaker 10: just don't have that ability. Baseball would look a lot
56:42
Speaker 10: different if they did. One run record is the kind
56:45
Speaker 10: of thing that bounces around a lot from year to year.
56:47
Speaker 10: If you want to look at the true quality of
56:48
Speaker 10: a team, you look at their blowouts. Good teams blow
56:51
Speaker 10: out other teams. Good teams don't play a lot of
56:53
Speaker 10: one run games. They go out and they just beat people. Now,
56:57
Speaker 10: part of that is part factors. Because team Mobile that's
57:00
Speaker 10: a good pitcher's park. The Marintors play low scoring games.
57:02
Speaker 10: Low scoring games are more likely to end up as
57:04
Speaker 10: one run games or go to extra endings. That's one
57:06
Speaker 10: reason the Mariners have played a lot of one running
57:08
Speaker 10: games this year. But there's no skill to it. Every
57:12
Speaker 10: year a team comes out and those ten and three
57:15
Speaker 10: or twelve and one or somebody else is out there
57:17
Speaker 10: with a ridiculous record, and oh, well they're clutch hitting
57:20
Speaker 10: and they're doing this, and there's no skill involved in
57:23
Speaker 10: winning one running games. There's a skill. Can I've have
57:26
Speaker 10: that back on a given night? There's a skill involved,
57:29
Speaker 10: Like if you hit a double with a runner on first,
57:31
Speaker 10: that's displaying skill. But is there a special one run
57:34
Speaker 10: game skill, a special close skill, a special extra ending
57:37
Speaker 10: game skill. No, there is not. The only significant factor
57:41
Speaker 10: we found is that teams with exceptional bullpens can do
57:45
Speaker 10: better in one run in close games, then you would
57:48
Speaker 10: project from everything else. If you think about the twenty
57:51
Speaker 10: fourteen twenty fifteen Royals, you think about the Great Yankee
57:54
Speaker 10: Dynasty teams, teams with truly exceptional bullpins, or even one
57:59
Speaker 10: guy who just sets the world on fire. I think
58:01
Speaker 10: you saw one of them earlier this year with Mason Miller.
58:06
Speaker 10: That can help you outperform your expectation of one runing gigs.
58:10
Speaker 10: But that's pretty much the only thing there. I don't
58:12
Speaker 10: want to say rand I will say that the performance
58:15
Speaker 10: in one run games is not a repeatable skill.
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Speaker 2: The manager has been a massively hot topic in Seattle,
58:43
Speaker 2: especially after the weekend in which they did get swept
58:46
Speaker 2: by only one appearance by Mason Miller. But the San
58:49
Speaker 2: Diego Padres it's, you know, it's one of those things, Joe,
58:52
Speaker 2: and you and I have been doing this for a while.
58:54
Speaker 2: You know, I'll ask you about managers every now and then.
58:57
Speaker 2: We did our malliwop thing with Nathan and Chris yesterday
58:59
Speaker 2: and and we, contrary I think popular belief, we're not
59:02
Speaker 2: always those guys, aren't always out calling for people's heads
59:05
Speaker 2: or calling for people to be fired. And then even
59:07
Speaker 2: yesterday they weren't. But there's been a lot of criticism
59:10
Speaker 2: of Dan Wilson. I brought I brought this part of
59:14
Speaker 2: it up, Jill. My question is this, is Dan Wilson
59:18
Speaker 2: the right guy? Is he adequate enough as an in
59:21
Speaker 2: game manager to lead a team with high expectations that
59:25
Speaker 2: was eight outs away from the World Series last season
59:27
Speaker 2: to at least the ALCS and maybe the World Series
59:30
Speaker 2: this season. It's a very you know, open editorical question.
59:33
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that. You study this,
59:36
Speaker 2: you look at this, you know what manager's difference can
59:38
Speaker 2: and cannot make. What is Joe She and c about
59:41
Speaker 2: Dan Wilson, who's almost two full years into the job.
59:43
Speaker 10: Now, Yeah, we talked about this couple of weeks ago
59:47
Speaker 10: and I said, you know, managers can learn. So the
59:49
Speaker 10: fact that Dan Wilson did not have a good October
59:51
Speaker 10: twenty twenty five doesn't mean he might not have any
59:54
Speaker 10: good October twenty twenty sixers. Manager's roles have been have
59:58
Speaker 10: changed a lot. I had a reader actually just asked
59:59
Speaker 10: me about this, and there's so much more of the
1:00:01
Speaker 10: job is weighted towards managing the people and creating a
1:00:05
Speaker 10: buffer between the press and your team. Maybe it's a
1:00:08
Speaker 10: little different Seattle than it is in New York or
1:00:10
Speaker 10: LA or Chicago. But the job is more soft factors
1:00:13
Speaker 10: than hard factors. Whereas you know, even when I started
1:00:16
Speaker 10: doing this, we were evaluating managers. How did you run
1:00:18
Speaker 10: the bullpen? Did you do a lot of dumb one
1:00:20
Speaker 10: run strategies? Who did you put on your roster back
1:00:22
Speaker 10: when you had more than four bench guys, back when
1:00:25
Speaker 10: you actually had decisions to make in terms of the stuff.
1:00:27
Speaker 10: A lot of those decisions just don't even exist anymore,
1:00:29
Speaker 10: or they're done in concert with the front office. I
1:00:33
Speaker 10: have a hard time, like, I don't think Wilson has
1:00:35
Speaker 10: run a bullpen very well. I also think he doesn't
1:00:37
Speaker 10: had two of his top three leaders for a month.
1:00:39
Speaker 10: Like I don't think it's necessarily fair to judge him
1:00:42
Speaker 10: based on how he's run the bulleten. I don't think
1:00:45
Speaker 10: it's fair to judge him, you know, because Josh Naylor
1:00:47
Speaker 10: and cal Rally haven't showed up for the season yet.
1:00:49
Speaker 10: I don't really I doubt that's on him. Cal Rally
1:00:51
Speaker 10: had sixty home runs a day and Wilson as his
1:00:53
Speaker 10: manager last year. The one thing that's going to stick
1:00:56
Speaker 10: in my craw here, and Wilson isn't the only one.
1:01:00
Speaker 10: Both Alex Cora and uh Pete Tracy have done this
1:01:03
Speaker 10: in Boston. We've seen Kurt Suzuki done this, do this
1:01:07
Speaker 10: in Anaheim, valuing protecting the veteran ahead of putting your
1:01:13
Speaker 10: best team on the field. And you know where I'm
1:01:14
Speaker 10: going with this. The guy who at a homer last night,
1:01:17
Speaker 10: Kirk cold Emerson is the best shortstop. Actually, Cole Young
1:01:20
Speaker 10: might be the best shortstop on the roster, but for
1:01:21
Speaker 10: our purposes here, cold Emerson is the better shortstop. And
1:01:25
Speaker 10: I want you to look at how he was used
1:01:27
Speaker 10: to the miners he played was an eighty seven percent
1:01:29
Speaker 10: of his innings at shortstop and the miners who played
1:01:32
Speaker 10: eighty nine percent of them and at shortstop this year.
1:01:35
Speaker 10: He clearly is a short stop. This isn't the case
1:01:36
Speaker 10: of a guy who has to move. And I really
1:01:40
Speaker 10: want to tag in Chris Crawford here because he might
1:01:42
Speaker 10: actually dislike Crawford JP Crawford's defense more than I do.
1:01:47
Speaker 2: He does, but by the way he does.
1:01:51
Speaker 10: We've been talking about this, I think for a year now,
1:01:54
Speaker 10: and he's valuing the soft actors. Crawford's position on that
1:02:00
Speaker 10: team is being a veteran as being somebody who's been
1:02:02
Speaker 10: the shortstop for playoff teams is a big hits. Valuing
1:02:05
Speaker 10: that over having the best defense. Now, in the short term,
1:02:08
Speaker 10: he'd probably get away with that because there's not a
1:02:12
Speaker 10: roster issue. But I'm looking ahead a month and it
1:02:15
Speaker 10: might be a month until Brendan Donovan comes back, and
1:02:18
Speaker 10: I don't know what this looks like once Dunnavan comes back,
1:02:20
Speaker 10: because Cole Young it doesn't look like much, but it's
1:02:23
Speaker 10: basically league average hitting and plus plus plus defense. If
1:02:26
Speaker 10: Emerson hits, he's got to stay up. Yes, Crawford's got
1:02:29
Speaker 10: to stay in. Like Trawnford is a three sixteen OPP.
1:02:31
Speaker 10: I'm not trying to bench the guy. I just want it.
1:02:33
Speaker 10: I would really just like to see him switch with Emerson.
1:02:37
Speaker 10: Railly and can Zone are hitting it. You can't take
1:02:39
Speaker 10: them out of the lineup. I'm really wondering what we
1:02:41
Speaker 10: do in a month when Donovan's ready to come back, who,
1:02:44
Speaker 10: by the way, hasn't has completely thrown up at third base.
1:02:47
Speaker 10: Was he had not played much third base in the
1:02:49
Speaker 10: last three years, and it's shown. I don't know how
1:02:52
Speaker 10: what this all looks like in a month. But that's
1:02:54
Speaker 10: really what I'm curious about. So I think for now
1:02:56
Speaker 10: you can get away with Emerson at third and Crawford
1:02:58
Speaker 10: at short. But I do think the pressure on that
1:03:00
Speaker 10: decision is going to come. It's going to go up
1:03:02
Speaker 10: once everybody is healthy.
1:03:03
Speaker 2: They've got two guys that probably should DH, Randy Euros
1:03:06
Speaker 2: Arena and JP Crawford. Like those those two guys should
1:03:10
Speaker 2: probably DH, But like you said, I mean there's still
1:03:13
Speaker 2: other holes in the lineup. The kid hits a three
1:03:16
Speaker 2: run home run last night. You know, he has not
1:03:18
Speaker 2: looked over matched in his at bats in his two games,
1:03:20
Speaker 2: you know, small sample size, and that's cold Emerson obviously.
1:03:24
Speaker 2: Cole Young's I don't see he's regressed. He's he's cooled
1:03:27
Speaker 2: down a little bit from his hot start. But you know,
1:03:29
Speaker 2: like you said, gives you a good defense at second base.
1:03:31
Speaker 2: And this is a team, Joe, if I'm not mistaken,
1:03:34
Speaker 2: it needs to be somewhat reliant on good defense, right
1:03:38
Speaker 2: because of how reliant they are in their pitching staff.
1:03:41
Speaker 10: Well, and that's one of the reasons the Crawford is
1:03:42
Speaker 10: she keeps coming up. I ran some numbers last week
1:03:45
Speaker 10: there I believe they had the worst infield defense in
1:03:48
Speaker 10: baseball by stack cast measures outs above average. They were
1:03:53
Speaker 10: giving up the highest batting average in baseball on ground
1:03:56
Speaker 10: balls to the left side Crawford and dunnavan mostly. This
1:04:00
Speaker 10: is a real problem for a team that's going to
1:04:02
Speaker 10: that really can't afford to give up that much defensively.
1:04:06
Speaker 10: You can say it's it's just a difference in I
1:04:09
Speaker 10: think what I don't know Ian, You know, I'm open
1:04:11
Speaker 10: about the fact that I'm an outsider here. Is it
1:04:14
Speaker 10: the team thinks Crawford's better than he is defensively or
1:04:18
Speaker 10: they're just exceeding to the fact that he's a Veteran's
1:04:20
Speaker 10: two different evaluations there. They may just think Crawford's better
1:04:24
Speaker 10: than he is, and I mean, I got a whole
1:04:26
Speaker 10: stack of numbers here that tells me, no, he's not.
1:04:28
Speaker 10: He's run right now today. He's not as good a
1:04:30
Speaker 10: defensive shortstop as col Dickerson is. So if you're gonna play,
1:04:34
Speaker 10: you're gonna play Emerson on the right and Crawford on
1:04:36
Speaker 10: the left. Just can see that you're giving up, You're
1:04:38
Speaker 10: going to be giving up based runners.
1:04:39
Speaker 2: You don't have to give up, yeah, I think, And
1:04:41
Speaker 2: I'll just wrap up that with this, I think it's
1:04:42
Speaker 2: a couple of things. One the Dan Wilson parks that
1:04:45
Speaker 2: ties into that. I think Dan Wilson's relationships in the
1:04:47
Speaker 2: in the clubhouse, from my understanding and everything, are just awesome.
1:04:50
Speaker 2: Like he's he's a very popular guy amount the players.
1:04:53
Speaker 2: That was not the case with Scott's service. And on
1:04:55
Speaker 2: top of all of that, yeah, JP Crawford as a veteran,
1:04:58
Speaker 2: as a leader, leader of the infield, I think they'd
1:05:01
Speaker 2: be reluctant to make those moves. But like you said
1:05:03
Speaker 2: in a few now, the only with Donovan is Donovan
1:05:06
Speaker 2: just coming off that sports herneia, has not been healthy
1:05:08
Speaker 2: this year, and you know, I'm not sure if there's
1:05:10
Speaker 2: any reason to believe he will be healthy this year
1:05:13
Speaker 2: where he can string together a couple months straight without
1:05:15
Speaker 2: going back on the injured list. So some of those
1:05:17
Speaker 2: things may take care of themselves along the way. But
1:05:20
Speaker 2: I think what you insinuated, yeah, I think that's I
1:05:22
Speaker 2: think that's part of it is just the respect given
1:05:24
Speaker 2: to the veteran that is JP Crawford, and he is
1:05:26
Speaker 2: hitting and he's getting on base, and that's a really
1:05:29
Speaker 2: important thing.
1:05:30
Speaker 10: This is something that is more modern baseball than you know,
1:05:34
Speaker 10: thirty years ago than when I did it, or about
1:05:36
Speaker 10: fifty years There's a lot more difference to the guy
1:05:39
Speaker 10: who's been there. There's a lot more if you're Dan Wilson,
1:05:42
Speaker 10: people management as opposed to baseball player management. I'm not
1:05:45
Speaker 10: saying good, bad, or and different of saying that the
1:05:47
Speaker 10: decision tree in twenty twenty six is a hell of
1:05:49
Speaker 10: a lot different than it would have been nineteen eighty six.
1:05:52
Speaker 2: Joshian joining us right now, Jochian newsletter. You wrote about
1:05:55
Speaker 2: cal Rawley. You know, one of the things that Dan
1:05:58
Speaker 2: Wilson cannot control is the fact that that cal Raley
1:06:03
Speaker 2: has not been not even close to what he was
1:06:06
Speaker 2: last season. They finally put him on the injured list,
1:06:08
Speaker 2: but even before he had the oblique injury that which
1:06:10
Speaker 2: we saw happen on a couple of occasions, but even
1:06:12
Speaker 2: before that he wasn't hitting. You wrote about him a
1:06:15
Speaker 2: little bit. What do you tell Mariner fans about cal Rawley?
1:06:18
Speaker 2: And we know he probably wasn't gonna hit sixty one
1:06:20
Speaker 2: home runs again, but what do you tell him about where.
1:06:22
Speaker 7: This guy is?
1:06:23
Speaker 10: We had talked about it. I was I three a
1:06:25
Speaker 10: bunch of numbers at your last week about how he
1:06:27
Speaker 10: was getting blown away by fastballs. He just looked like
1:06:30
Speaker 10: a guy who was tired. And it was a thing
1:06:31
Speaker 10: where if he was thirty four years old, you might
1:06:33
Speaker 10: just say, well, this is what happens to a thirty
1:06:34
Speaker 10: four year old. He's twenty nine. He's coming off this
1:06:36
Speaker 10: monster season hitting fastball, so it's really a shock. And
1:06:40
Speaker 10: I throughout the idea. You know, last year cal Raley
1:06:43
Speaker 10: played until October twentieth. He always carried. He's caught more
1:06:46
Speaker 10: innings than any americanly catched over the last three years,
1:06:48
Speaker 10: and then last year he went into October. And then
1:06:51
Speaker 10: this spring he caught the WBC like he didn't have
1:06:54
Speaker 10: a normal slow ramp up to his spring. He only
1:06:56
Speaker 10: caught three games. But let's face it, catching the WBC
1:06:58
Speaker 10: is a different task than catching in.
1:07:00
Speaker 7: The Cactus League.
1:07:01
Speaker 10: And what I was thinking is she say it's just fatigue.
1:07:03
Speaker 10: I think he just is tired and this isn't WBC
1:07:07
Speaker 10: roomed to guy. It's playing until October twentieth and then
1:07:10
Speaker 10: coming back and starting playing again on March third might
1:07:14
Speaker 10: have had some some effects. I think he's just tired.
1:07:16
Speaker 10: This guy has been worked very hard, even though he
1:07:18
Speaker 10: hasn't caught in recent years, he's DHD a lot. He's
1:07:21
Speaker 10: just carried an enormous load. I think we've seen that
1:07:23
Speaker 10: kind of catch up to him a little bit in
1:07:25
Speaker 10: the spring. I said last weekend, you'll give the Dodge
1:07:27
Speaker 10: a vacation, whether it's the bleak or it's.
1:07:29
Speaker 2: The air quotes of bleak, Yes.
1:07:32
Speaker 10: Yeah, give a week and a half off. And I
1:07:35
Speaker 10: thought I saw a note the other day is going
1:07:36
Speaker 10: to go to Arizona against the Matte Batson. Yeah, let's
1:07:40
Speaker 10: give him a reset, give him the reset he didn't
1:07:42
Speaker 10: get this winter, and let him go out and go
1:07:46
Speaker 10: back and be not twenty twenty five cal rally. That
1:07:49
Speaker 10: guy's gone, but go back into twenty three to twenty
1:07:51
Speaker 10: four cal rally, hit two thirty with whatever you want
1:07:54
Speaker 10: to pro rate thirty home runs two over four months.
1:07:56
Speaker 10: I can do math it's twenty two home runs and
1:07:58
Speaker 10: be that great defensive anchor and be the guy who
1:08:01
Speaker 10: here's the other thing. It's going to be harder for
1:08:03
Speaker 10: them to d H him on the days he doesn't catch.
1:08:05
Speaker 10: You mentioned a rozarraina Dunna Ben. I don't know if
1:08:08
Speaker 10: he's going to be able to play in the field.
1:08:09
Speaker 10: You've got Kensel, You've got you just have a lot
1:08:12
Speaker 10: of bats now who you don't necessarily want to put
1:08:15
Speaker 10: on the bench, whereas in the past they needed rally
1:08:18
Speaker 10: to take those at bats. Maybe now okay, now he's
1:08:20
Speaker 10: just going to catch five days a week and he's
1:08:22
Speaker 10: going to get rest on those other two days.
1:08:24
Speaker 2: A one hundred percent agree, Joshian. Before I let you go,
1:08:27
Speaker 2: you mentioned briefly just Mason Miller. I just I don't
1:08:31
Speaker 2: know how deeply you've looked at some of the things
1:08:33
Speaker 2: he does, number wise and everything else. And you know,
1:08:35
Speaker 2: I watching him on Friday. He didn't pitch in the
1:08:38
Speaker 2: final two games. They didn't need him in the final
1:08:40
Speaker 2: two games of the series. I have an affinity for him.
1:08:43
Speaker 2: Just so you know, my son has Type one diabetes
1:08:45
Speaker 2: and was an athlete and a college athlete, and so
1:08:49
Speaker 2: you know, I know the challenges that that entails. I
1:08:52
Speaker 2: love the fact that he openly embraces Mason Miller, the
1:08:55
Speaker 2: fact that he can help young people and be a
1:08:57
Speaker 2: role model. I love everything about him. By the way,
1:09:01
Speaker 2: we've seen so many, so many great relief pictures over
1:09:03
Speaker 2: the years. What is it about him that separates Mason
1:09:06
Speaker 2: Miller from other guys.
1:09:09
Speaker 10: I don't want to be too simplistic about this, but
1:09:10
Speaker 10: the guy throws one oh three. This is one of
1:09:13
Speaker 10: those where I don't need to give you the deep
1:09:16
Speaker 10: sabermetric answer.
1:09:17
Speaker 7: Yes, he throws one oh three.
1:09:18
Speaker 10: Oh and by the way, he also a ridiculous slidery
1:09:21
Speaker 10: He froze mac Nex Monsey est at the end of
1:09:23
Speaker 10: the game last night Dodger's got he walked the first
1:09:25
Speaker 10: two guys, struck out the next three or strikeout, pop up,
1:09:28
Speaker 10: strike out, and he froze Max Munsey with a slider
1:09:32
Speaker 10: like right down eight, and Monsey just didn't know what
1:09:33
Speaker 10: to do. I mean, when you have those two weapons,
1:09:36
Speaker 10: when you've got to make guys rev up for one
1:09:38
Speaker 10: oh three and then you can throw your slider. He
1:09:41
Speaker 10: can throw for strikes like he did a Monzie, and
1:09:43
Speaker 10: he can also throw the two to one that's seventeen
1:09:45
Speaker 10: feet from the plate that the guy has to swing
1:09:46
Speaker 10: at because well it might be one oh three. Great
1:09:50
Speaker 10: relievers only need really those two. But they have been
1:09:52
Speaker 10: great four pitch relievers before. But when you have those
1:09:55
Speaker 10: two weapons, you've got one of the great reliever peaks
1:09:57
Speaker 10: of all time. And he's had some command issues late.
1:10:00
Speaker 10: The strike out rates dropped, I think down to last
1:10:01
Speaker 10: fifty eight percent or something. But it's just he's really
1:10:07
Speaker 10: he's almost unhittable, like he's going to give up some walks. Yeah,
1:10:09
Speaker 10: and maybe somebody runs into when I saw a Lei
1:10:11
Speaker 10: Soso run into one off of last year. But you're
1:10:14
Speaker 10: talking about a guy who's probably gonna have one of
1:10:16
Speaker 10: the great reliever seasons up there with Eckersley ninety, Don
1:10:20
Speaker 10: Ye three, Wade Davis fourteen. I mean, this is going
1:10:23
Speaker 10: to end up being one of the greatest reliever seasons
1:10:25
Speaker 10: of all time. And let's enjoy because these guys tend
1:10:27
Speaker 10: to burn fast and hot. Chapman's an exception, Nathan Rivera Hoffmann.
1:10:32
Speaker 10: But for guys to be this absolutely dominant with this
1:10:36
Speaker 10: kind of strikeout rate, it tends to be a one
1:10:38
Speaker 10: or two year phenomenon. You look at Kimbell's striking out
1:10:40
Speaker 10: half the battery faced Hater's done it. I want to say,
1:10:43
Speaker 10: Chapman's done it. You know, familiar to do that. Let's
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1:10:48
Speaker 10: be tracking games late at night and hoping the padres
1:10:51
Speaker 10: don't tack on runs, yes, so that it'll remain a
1:10:55
Speaker 10: safe situation. So he'll come in. And you know, I
1:10:57
Speaker 10: knew he had diabetes, I didn't know he actually was
1:10:59
Speaker 10: that active terms very much reaching out. And that's fantastic
1:11:02
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1:11:05
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1:11:07
Speaker 10: we not everybody looks the ballplayers for that anymore looks
1:11:12
Speaker 10: to athletes for that. And one of them takes it
1:11:14
Speaker 10: upon himself to do that, and that's a wonderful thing.
1:11:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have one guy here, Jordan Morris, soccer player
1:11:19
Speaker 2: for the Sounders, played for the US men's national team.
1:11:20
Speaker 2: He does the same thing. And I think, you know,
1:11:22
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1:11:25
Speaker 2: and and and disabilities frankly that if you know you
1:11:28
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Speaker 2: who I really don't like. So here's what I'm hoping
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Speaker 2: Interest I believe that was Also, this is crazy because
1:16:18
Speaker 2: Montreal's kind of although they haven't won a standing Cup
1:16:20
Speaker 2: in zillionaires, but kind of the Yankees of the NHL
1:16:24
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. Well, just terms of the
1:16:26
Speaker 2: history and the banners they've raised. They had never they
1:16:29
Speaker 2: had never had a game seven overtime win on the
1:16:32
Speaker 2: road in their franchise history before tonight last Yeah, they
1:16:36
Speaker 2: threw that out there on Hockey Night Canada last night. Okay,
1:16:38
Speaker 2: there we go. One of the note from National Hockey
1:16:40
Speaker 2: before we get to the top of the hour and
1:16:41
Speaker 2: maybe hopefully have John ln join us hopefully. Have you
1:16:43
Speaker 2: texted him? Have you touched base with him?
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Speaker 3: We're good, yes, several times.
1:16:46
Speaker 2: Okay. One other note. Adam Foot out as the head
1:16:50
Speaker 2: coach in Vancouver. He was fired today along with his
1:16:53
Speaker 2: entire coaching staff. They retaining a chunk of their front
1:16:56
Speaker 2: office Cammi Granado among others, but they let Adam Foot go,
1:17:00
Speaker 2: not a surprise. So the Canucks making a coaching change
1:17:03
Speaker 2: as well. So there's a few coaching openings out there
1:17:06
Speaker 2: in the NHL right now. Not in Seattle. Helleverre Lane
1:17:09
Speaker 2: Lambert is of course expected back for it next season.
1:17:12
Speaker 2: Now that your daily power play again, one night without hockey,
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Speaker 2: playoff hockey night kind of bomb. Luckily got maner baseball,
1:17:17
Speaker 2: and then it resumes tomorrow with game one in the
1:17:20
Speaker 2: Western Conference Final the Avalanche in the Vegas Golden Knights Vegas,
1:17:24
Speaker 2: by the way, find one hundred thousand dollars lost their
1:17:27
Speaker 2: second round draft pick this year because of violations with
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Speaker 2: media availability after their last game in Anaheim. It lost
1:17:34
Speaker 2: a draft pick over that second round pick. It tells
1:17:36
Speaker 2: you they've been pissing the NHL off for a while.
1:17:39
Speaker 2: They appealed the NHL game in the middle finger today,
1:17:41
Speaker 2: so they indeed will be fine hundred grand and lose
1:17:43
Speaker 2: that second round pick.
1:17:44
Speaker 4: I mean the money I get, but losing a draft
1:17:47
Speaker 4: pick that's impactful.
1:17:48
Speaker 2: Follow the rules, man, well, yeah, all the rules. Follow
1:17:52
Speaker 2: the rules. You're a rules breaker, all right, Catholic school.
1:17:55
Speaker 2: Don't be a rules breaker, I know exactly, all right, Lund. Next,
1:18:03
Speaker 2: the worst one was you'll love this. We came back.
1:18:07
Speaker 2: WrestleMania was in Seattle at t Mobile Park or safe
1:18:10
Speaker 2: Coat at the time. Right that the WrestleMania one year,
1:18:12
Speaker 2: and we came up here, my co host and we
1:18:15
Speaker 2: had a whole bunch of us came up here from
1:18:16
Speaker 2: the radio station, Gavin the whole group. Right, We're all
1:18:18
Speaker 2: up here for the weekend, staying like you know, five
1:18:21
Speaker 2: people sleeping on a floor in a hotel and and
1:18:24
Speaker 2: uh Laura, Queen Anne and we get back. So that
1:18:27
Speaker 2: night we go to the we go to the WrestleMania.
1:18:29
Speaker 2: We get back like at two two thirty in the morning,
1:18:32
Speaker 2: and you know, crash at like you know, you fall asleep.
1:18:35
Speaker 2: After an hour, all of a sudden, my phone's ringing
1:18:38
Speaker 2: and it's our old PD, your buddy Alan Davis, the Canadian,
1:18:42
Speaker 2: and it's all Davis. It's like and I look, I
1:18:47
Speaker 2: look at I look, I look at my I look
1:18:52
Speaker 2: at the He's like and it's it's like four forty five.
1:18:56
Speaker 2: I've maybe been asleep for an hour and a half, goes,
1:18:58
Speaker 2: I need you to come into the morning show. Cowards.
1:19:00
Speaker 2: Collins's not feeling well, and I was like, I'm not
1:19:04
Speaker 2: feeling well. Like I'm not feeling well either, Like I
1:19:08
Speaker 2: like when I say not feeling well, like we had
1:19:10
Speaker 2: a good time to wrestle me like we we know,
1:19:12
Speaker 2: and I'm like, he's like I need to come in.
1:19:14
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, So I had to go
1:19:17
Speaker 2: in and do that show. And I was like, you know,
1:19:18
Speaker 2: in typical Colling, like you know, he he had the sniffles,
1:19:20
Speaker 2: like he wasn't really sick. He just decided you want
1:19:22
Speaker 2: to go in, right, But we had nobody like it.
1:19:25
Speaker 2: Who else was going to do it? We had anybody there. Yeah,
1:19:28
Speaker 2: I was brutal, like morning shows. I'm speaking of Portland.
1:19:32
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that the worst owner
1:19:34
Speaker 2: of sports laid off like half the front office for
1:19:36
Speaker 2: the Blazers today.
1:19:37
Speaker 9: Just you know what, and not that I you know, obviously,
1:19:41
Speaker 9: I know, I know we're sitting here talking in Seattle,
1:19:43
Speaker 9: but I don't get it. Man like Mark Cuban, for example,
1:19:47
Speaker 9: couldn't get vested to buy the Chicago Cubs, who have
1:19:50
Speaker 9: turned into they're a super cheap team. They own their
1:19:52
Speaker 9: own network and like that they're owned by the Ricketts family.
1:19:55
Speaker 9: Not that anybody cares, but my point here is is
1:19:57
Speaker 9: that how do they let these kind of guys in
1:19:59
Speaker 9: the league.
1:20:00
Speaker 7: They just decide from a business point, Well, this guy's
1:20:02
Speaker 7: not gonna be Yeah, this guy's not gonna be a
1:20:04
Speaker 7: threat to me, so it might as well let him in.
1:20:06
Speaker 9: I mean, wouldn't you want Maybe I'm wrong here, wouldn't
1:20:09
Speaker 9: you want the strongest owners you could possibly have rather
1:20:12
Speaker 9: than these weak ass guys that are gonna like Nikolin
1:20:15
Speaker 9: died the whole Phoenix story where it's like he made
1:20:17
Speaker 9: the team check out of the hotel.
1:20:19
Speaker 7: Obviously, this is gonna be a major problem for the Blazers.
1:20:22
Speaker 7: This looks like and I'm sorry to bring this up,
1:20:24
Speaker 7: but this looks.
1:20:24
Speaker 9: Like clay Bennett all over again, where there's a guy
1:20:27
Speaker 9: that doesn't even really care and he's trying to do
1:20:29
Speaker 9: the whole what's that major league that you know, the
1:20:31
Speaker 9: woman who on the the Indians do the whole thing? Like,
1:20:35
Speaker 9: it looks like he's trying to just tank the team, piss.
1:20:37
Speaker 7: Everybody off, and move him.
1:20:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, nobody wants to see her naked, though
1:20:40
Speaker 2: they do won't to see her naked either, but yeah, yeah,
1:20:42
Speaker 2: it's yeah, no, no, no, Well but listen, you're right,
1:20:47
Speaker 2: it's the Clayton Bennett playbook.
1:20:48
Speaker 7: That guy, it is.
1:20:50
Speaker 2: It totally is it's the it's the exact playbook. And
1:20:53
Speaker 2: here's the crazy thing. The least is exactly the same
1:20:55
Speaker 2: is when Bennett brought the it's three years left on it.
1:20:58
Speaker 2: They're trying to get all the stuff done and they're
1:21:00
Speaker 2: almost to the finish line to get everything improved from
1:21:02
Speaker 2: the state, the county, and the city. But I don't
1:21:05
Speaker 2: know it reeks. Somebody I'm to retweeted that one of
1:21:09
Speaker 2: the stories at the Brenna or kans On or Dwight
1:21:11
Speaker 2: or somebody had done down there, and somebody pointed out,
1:21:14
Speaker 2: like the NBA's inability to take care of the Northwest
1:21:18
Speaker 2: is mind boggling. I believe between the Vancouver, between the
1:21:21
Speaker 2: Vancouver Grizzlies and allowing that to happen, the Clayton Bennett
1:21:24
Speaker 2: buying from Howard Schultz, allowing that to happen, allowing this
1:21:26
Speaker 2: guy who's just frankly, he's just a cheap bat owner
1:21:29
Speaker 2: to buy the Blaze, like they they just don't care
1:21:31
Speaker 2: about the Northwest in any way shape.
1:21:34
Speaker 9: I take a step further, the guy who owns Renadive,
1:21:38
Speaker 9: the guy who owns the Kings a piece of garbage.
1:21:41
Speaker 7: I mean, he just he was part of the ownership
1:21:44
Speaker 7: group of the Warriors, and he just runs that team
1:21:46
Speaker 7: into the ground.
1:21:46
Speaker 9: And then this new GM, new GM, next GM, new GM.
1:21:49
Speaker 9: I mean, they don't have a clue what they're doing.
1:21:52
Speaker 9: That's another guy that just it's it's the whole corridor
1:21:55
Speaker 9: there where I just don't get it. Like I understand
1:21:59
Speaker 9: that there's an approval problem, but there's a lot of
1:22:01
Speaker 9: people that would do such a better job. Aren't you
1:22:04
Speaker 9: trying to make your league as strong as it possibly
1:22:06
Speaker 9: could be? Or these owners just like, yeah, let's just
1:22:08
Speaker 9: I don't care if you know, we get a fee
1:22:10
Speaker 9: or whatever we get, we get this money. We don't care.
1:22:13
Speaker 9: We just we just want the most money possible. I
1:22:15
Speaker 9: just answered my own question. I get that, But still
1:22:17
Speaker 9: you would think that you would want the strongest ownership
1:22:20
Speaker 9: you could possibly have in every city, which makes every
1:22:22
Speaker 9: team better.
1:22:23
Speaker 2: You brought him up. That's interesting because so I went
1:22:25
Speaker 2: back to as you're saying that, I went back to look,
1:22:27
Speaker 2: so I think it was twenty ten. I think it
1:22:30
Speaker 2: was two years after the Sonics left. Is when is
1:22:34
Speaker 2: when Ronda Dve bought the Kings, right, And that was
1:22:38
Speaker 2: when he bought it. Because the guy up here Chris
1:22:41
Speaker 2: Hansen was trying to buy it, and I think and
1:22:43
Speaker 2: I believe Balmer would have been involved as well, because
1:22:47
Speaker 2: because Chris Hansen didn't have the money.
1:22:48
Speaker 7: He was a not krin answer from NBC, Right, no, no,
1:22:51
Speaker 7: not the guy find the tree?
1:22:54
Speaker 2: How did you sit over here? Do you want some
1:22:58
Speaker 2: kool Aids left?
1:22:59
Speaker 7: Yeah? That was always so great when they got that guy.
1:23:01
Speaker 7: It's just like.
1:23:04
Speaker 2: Nothing, nothing, It's gonna have a gonna have a piece
1:23:08
Speaker 2: of pizza and have some kool aid have Asda's twelve
1:23:11
Speaker 2: years old.
1:23:12
Speaker 3: That's great a Mickey mouse.
1:23:14
Speaker 2: Warn do you see that guy? You walk into a
1:23:16
Speaker 2: room and see that guy, you know you're done. I
1:23:17
Speaker 2: was like the guys that try to like the guys
1:23:19
Speaker 2: who trying to run.
1:23:22
Speaker 9: I love when they run because then all the cops
1:23:24
Speaker 9: are outside and guy makes them pass the door and
1:23:26
Speaker 9: then they just turf from right.
1:23:27
Speaker 2: They want him to run. They like, please, please, just
1:23:31
Speaker 2: make a run for it. Just give me a gimme,
1:23:33
Speaker 2: just give me. Yeah, take a run at it. That's
1:23:40
Speaker 2: a that's a freebie, that's a free well, so he
1:23:42
Speaker 2: bought so in twenty if you remember, that was in
1:23:44
Speaker 2: twenty ten ish, right when that all that stuff went down,
1:23:48
Speaker 2: and we're trying to get the building built, and I mean, look,
1:23:50
Speaker 2: I think there were so many flaws to the plan
1:23:52
Speaker 2: here for the building and everything like that. It was
1:23:54
Speaker 2: kind of a point. But remember that's when David Stern
1:23:56
Speaker 2: stepped in. He gets on a DV to buy the team.
1:24:00
Speaker 2: As you're saying that, I just looked back, John. They
1:24:03
Speaker 2: have been to the playoffs one time since that, since
1:24:08
Speaker 2: he bought the team and they lost in the first round.
1:24:10
Speaker 2: They have been to the playoffs only one time since
1:24:14
Speaker 2: the two thousand and six two thousand and seven. In
1:24:16
Speaker 2: twenty years, they've been to one playoff in the NBA.
1:24:20
Speaker 7: What as well.
1:24:22
Speaker 9: The only reason they're still there is because that's all
1:24:25
Speaker 9: there is in Sacramento. That's their only team, and so
1:24:27
Speaker 9: they'll just come out. I mean, you and I both
1:24:29
Speaker 9: worked in one market towns. I mean Utah with the
1:24:32
Speaker 9: Jazz obviously with the Blazers. I mean they just, you know,
1:24:35
Speaker 9: they just they love their team and so they just
1:24:38
Speaker 9: almost blindly follow the team. And in Sacramento, I think
1:24:41
Speaker 9: it's even more hardcore than that.
1:24:43
Speaker 7: I mean, they just love it. They just love their team,
1:24:45
Speaker 7: so that.
1:24:46
Speaker 9: That owner is really lucky but honestly, if we rank
1:24:48
Speaker 9: the owners in the NBA, he'd have to be considered
1:24:51
Speaker 9: for last. He's just he's awful. He's just he's way
1:24:54
Speaker 9: two hands on anyway, point is is that you've got
1:24:57
Speaker 9: this guy in Portland, you got this guy in like,
1:24:58
Speaker 9: I don't get it, you know, And that's what I
1:25:01
Speaker 9: think the NFL and you know, to speak to the Seahawks.
1:25:03
Speaker 9: I mean, I think the NFL they're not going to
1:25:05
Speaker 9: do that. I just they will vet their owner better.
1:25:08
Speaker 9: And I don't know why the NBA doesn't do the same.
1:25:10
Speaker 2: Well, the NFL's in a decent job too of getting
1:25:11
Speaker 2: rid of bad owners, right. They got rid of the guy,
1:25:13
Speaker 2: the racist, misogynist puke in Carolina. They got rid of him.
1:25:18
Speaker 2: And speaking of which all the above, Daniel Snyder, they
1:25:21
Speaker 2: got rid of him. And then when Bezels tried to
1:25:23
Speaker 2: buy it, they didn't want they want Bazils part of
1:25:24
Speaker 2: the club. They said, no, we're going to get this
1:25:26
Speaker 2: other guy for the commanders. So like, the NFL does
1:25:28
Speaker 2: a decent job that I didn't bring this up early
1:25:30
Speaker 2: because you know, my concern with the NBA is I
1:25:32
Speaker 2: believe it is coming back, and I believe you know,
1:25:35
Speaker 2: the leader in the clubhouse to own the team will
1:25:37
Speaker 2: be the people that Sam Holloway and and her group
1:25:40
Speaker 2: won roof, They're gonna be the ones. They run the
1:25:43
Speaker 2: crack in they own the crack and they do that.
1:25:44
Speaker 2: I mean off ice, everything's first class. Yeah, they need
1:25:46
Speaker 2: to win more on the ice. We get that they
1:25:48
Speaker 2: run the building, they control the building. All that's good.
1:25:51
Speaker 2: What if the somebody else comes in. I have no
1:25:53
Speaker 2: faith in the NBA at all. If it's not Sam
1:25:57
Speaker 2: and her group, I have no faith in the NBA
1:25:58
Speaker 2: at all that they'll have somebody come and it's any good.
1:26:00
Speaker 2: This is a great example with Portland, Like I've got
1:26:02
Speaker 2: no faith that the NBA will do the right thing,
1:26:05
Speaker 2: especially with how they've treated these like we just said
1:26:07
Speaker 2: the Northwest Corridor.
1:26:09
Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's it's Look, everybody talks about bias, and
1:26:13
Speaker 9: we've been all over the country doing this this media stuff,
1:26:15
Speaker 9: and you know, there's no doubt about it.
1:26:18
Speaker 7: I just I get confused the whole thing.
1:26:19
Speaker 9: And I think the worst case scenario for Seattle would
1:26:21
Speaker 9: be is we can see as we talk about Vegas
1:26:24
Speaker 9: and Seattle getting a team, I think they're both going
1:26:26
Speaker 9: to get a team. I think they both deserve, you know,
1:26:29
Speaker 9: not existing teams. So I wonder where Portland's gonna go.
1:26:31
Speaker 9: I mean, they're gonna put Portland in Seattle with that guy,
1:26:34
Speaker 9: with that joker.
1:26:34
Speaker 7: That's no good. It's almost better to not have.
1:26:37
Speaker 9: A team, because I got to believe that in Vegas.
1:26:40
Speaker 9: You know again, I think in Vegas and Seattle both,
1:26:42
Speaker 9: I don't think you're going.
1:26:43
Speaker 7: To take an existing team. I think that's stinks. I
1:26:45
Speaker 7: think it's stinks taken obviously, as you well know.
1:26:48
Speaker 9: You guys will know that in Seattle like it just
1:26:50
Speaker 9: you should be able to start from fresh. And I
1:26:53
Speaker 9: certainly wouldn't want that guy in Portland known.
1:26:54
Speaker 2: In my team.
1:26:55
Speaker 7: He's already shown it.
1:26:56
Speaker 9: I mean, think about this, He's this is just the
1:26:58
Speaker 9: surface for this guy. He just got to control of
1:27:00
Speaker 9: the team. What is it going to do in the future,
1:27:01
Speaker 9: He's going to be the cheapest guy in the NBA.
1:27:03
Speaker 9: They're going to turn into the Kings or whatever, and
1:27:05
Speaker 9: then it's always going to be a constant discussion about,
1:27:08
Speaker 9: you know, whether they're going to keep the team, because
1:27:10
Speaker 9: to me, the Blazers fans, as good as they are,
1:27:12
Speaker 9: they're not the Kings. They won't just blindly go to
1:27:14
Speaker 9: the game like Kings fans do.
1:27:15
Speaker 7: I don't think they'll do.
1:27:16
Speaker 2: That in Portland. No John Lynn joining us. So the
1:27:19
Speaker 2: NFL today announced the couple things. One, they are starting
1:27:24
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven, they'll increase the cap on international
1:27:28
Speaker 2: games from eight to ten. It's actually eleven because the
1:27:32
Speaker 2: Jags play game every year at Wimbley, they don't count that,
1:27:34
Speaker 2: so basically eight, so it'll be eleven games. They're on
1:27:37
Speaker 2: track to have sixteen. Everybody play one game. That probably
1:27:40
Speaker 2: puts us on track for an eighteen game regular season.
1:27:43
Speaker 2: More international games, John, more internas, we're traveling more here
1:27:47
Speaker 2: we go.
1:27:50
Speaker 7: I think there's two things. First of all, there's no
1:27:52
Speaker 7: doubt about it. I think that there's going the reason
1:27:55
Speaker 7: why they're going to this.
1:27:56
Speaker 9: Nice even ten and look, we all know this. It's
1:27:59
Speaker 9: all about money, and it's all about sales, and it's
1:28:01
Speaker 9: all about revenue. I think that what they're going to
1:28:02
Speaker 9: do is they're going to open these ten games up
1:28:04
Speaker 9: to one of the streaming services to pay a boatload
1:28:07
Speaker 9: of money to say, you know, you're not getting five games,
1:28:09
Speaker 9: seven games, nine games, you're getting ten games.
1:28:12
Speaker 7: So that's going to be an astronomical amount of money.
1:28:15
Speaker 9: And I think all ten eventually are going to go
1:28:16
Speaker 9: to a streaming service or multiple streaming services, and that's
1:28:19
Speaker 9: going to be their big thing these international games. So
1:28:22
Speaker 9: that's going to be number one and then number two.
1:28:23
Speaker 9: As you said, what people don't understand because I've covered
1:28:26
Speaker 9: a couple of these, Like we've talked about in the past,
1:28:29
Speaker 9: it's just not easy. It's not easy to come back
1:28:31
Speaker 9: from these Like the Seahawks obviously, you know. I mean
1:28:33
Speaker 9: they were in Germany, right and you know they've they've
1:28:35
Speaker 9: done these games before. It's just really hard. Because I've
1:28:39
Speaker 9: said this to you before. We for one of the
1:28:41
Speaker 9: games in London. You fly to New England.
1:28:43
Speaker 7: When I was with the Raiders, you.
1:28:44
Speaker 9: Probably to New England or you're in Boston. Then you're
1:28:48
Speaker 9: there and you're all hanging out with the players and
1:28:50
Speaker 9: then we all go on the plane and then they
1:28:51
Speaker 9: tell you you got to stay up.
1:28:52
Speaker 7: I mean, look, it's rough.
1:28:54
Speaker 9: And they got smoked by Miami in one of the games,
1:28:56
Speaker 9: and they came back and they're the Raiders, so they
1:28:57
Speaker 9: stunk and they lost again. But you know, we talk
1:29:00
Speaker 9: them at the end of the season and it's just
1:29:02
Speaker 9: it's a grind. I mean, it just going over there
1:29:04
Speaker 9: as a grind. And when they say that a team
1:29:05
Speaker 9: could play over there, I just think it would be
1:29:07
Speaker 9: way too difficult. So I think it's funny that the
1:29:10
Speaker 9: NFL talks about these kind of things, but the reality
1:29:12
Speaker 9: is is they're just doing it for money.
1:29:14
Speaker 7: You and I talked about this last week.
1:29:16
Speaker 9: It's not like these countries are you know, it's going
1:29:19
Speaker 9: to overtake soccer or anything like that. It's going to
1:29:21
Speaker 9: be there's a revenue here, don't get me wrong. But
1:29:24
Speaker 9: the revenue that they want to do is they want
1:29:25
Speaker 9: to get the big buzz and then they want to
1:29:27
Speaker 9: sell this to the streaming networks and say, look we've
1:29:29
Speaker 9: got a nice even number ten. So it's not about
1:29:33
Speaker 9: player safety, it's not about player rest, it's not about
1:29:35
Speaker 9: it just goes back to the almighty dollar, which look,
1:29:38
Speaker 9: I get it, but it's not like these countries are
1:29:40
Speaker 9: clamoring for NFL football as they claim, because that's just
1:29:43
Speaker 9: not the case.
1:29:43
Speaker 2: The one thing I did like though, that they came
1:29:45
Speaker 2: up with is so they awarded the new Nissan Stadium,
1:29:49
Speaker 2: which they're doing in Nashville, they awarded them the Super
1:29:51
Speaker 2: Bowl in twenty thirty. So the next Super Bowls are
1:29:54
Speaker 2: Sofi Stadium this coming season twenty twenty seven, Merceity's Been
1:29:57
Speaker 2: Stadium in Atlanta in twenty twenty eight, Allegiance Stadium in
1:30:01
Speaker 2: Vegas in twenty twenty nine. I don't know why you
1:30:02
Speaker 2: don't just have it there every year, to be honest
1:30:04
Speaker 2: with you.
1:30:04
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, and it is really awesome.
1:30:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, And in twenty thirty New Nieces on same So
1:30:10
Speaker 2: the next four have been decided after twenty thirty, no
1:30:13
Speaker 2: set information. Twenty thirty one, there will be the next one,
1:30:16
Speaker 2: so at least for the next four years. Here's like
1:30:19
Speaker 2: it's domestic, like because you know, you know what, you know,
1:30:23
Speaker 2: they're looking at Wimbley, right, you know they're looking at Wimbley,
1:30:26
Speaker 2: And what the hell time would it be there? Like
1:30:28
Speaker 2: that's the problem with Wimbley. Like we're all used to
1:30:30
Speaker 2: having the Super Bowl at a certain time, right, I
1:30:32
Speaker 2: mean I am. I don't know about you. I I
1:30:34
Speaker 2: like the three to thirty Pacific time, six thirty on
1:30:37
Speaker 2: the East Coast. It's primetime on the East Coast. It's
1:30:39
Speaker 2: it's perfect in that regard, Like we don't need we
1:30:42
Speaker 2: don't need to have a sea. Right. We don't need
1:30:45
Speaker 2: to have like a a six am super Bowl, right,
1:30:49
Speaker 2: just for a money ground.
1:30:50
Speaker 7: Imagine that's what want to do. Stay up. People would
1:30:54
Speaker 7: just stay up.
1:30:55
Speaker 9: Like not maybe not if your team wasn't in it
1:30:57
Speaker 9: or something like that. But like you said, they don't
1:30:59
Speaker 9: care about the fans. They don't care about anything but
1:31:01
Speaker 9: the revenue of it. So if they had a game
1:31:03
Speaker 9: over there, you're right, they probably started some cockamami time
1:31:06
Speaker 9: and then we'd all be you know, they'd be like,
1:31:08
Speaker 9: come on, man, and they would try to sell it like, well, jeez,
1:31:10
Speaker 9: if you start drinking it, you know, four in the morning.
1:31:12
Speaker 7: And then you know, you go to bed and you
1:31:14
Speaker 7: have a nice you know, it's.
1:31:18
Speaker 2: No, it's just super You gotta have your day. You
1:31:21
Speaker 2: got to get ready for the day. You gotta cook,
1:31:23
Speaker 2: you gotta eat, you gotta prep. You got so London,
1:31:26
Speaker 2: London's eight hours ahead of us on the East coast,
1:31:28
Speaker 2: so different, so that they to make it doable. Probably
1:31:32
Speaker 2: for them, the game would be probably at at the
1:31:35
Speaker 2: latest what eleven or eleven thirty Pacific time for the
1:31:38
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Yeah, ridiculous, it can't work.
1:31:41
Speaker 7: God, you can't do that. But they're gonna do it.
1:31:43
Speaker 9: I mean, every time we talk about something that no,
1:31:45
Speaker 9: they can't do that, then they do.
1:31:46
Speaker 2: Well. I think you right every day, but I think
1:31:49
Speaker 2: it's crazy. I think you're right. With the streaming though,
1:31:51
Speaker 2: like and I don't. I haven't looked at I haven't
1:31:53
Speaker 2: seen the numbers, and I think the numbers are hard
1:31:55
Speaker 2: because it's streaming, so they kind of keep the streaming
1:31:58
Speaker 2: numbers to the close to the vest. But the you know,
1:32:01
Speaker 2: like the NBA had Game seven of Detroit and Cleveland.
1:32:03
Speaker 2: Now a game ended up being awful, right, Like, it
1:32:05
Speaker 2: was awful game, but they had Game seven. They had
1:32:07
Speaker 2: Game seven Sunday night, and that thing was and it
1:32:10
Speaker 2: kind of ended up being standalone because Sunday night baseball
1:32:13
Speaker 2: was early er. The hockey game that night was early. No,
1:32:17
Speaker 2: there was a hockey game that night, right, yeah, because
1:32:18
Speaker 2: they played Monday, so they kind of had a standalone game.
1:32:21
Speaker 2: They had a standalone playoff game that started basically you
1:32:24
Speaker 2: could watch the entire second half even if you're a
1:32:26
Speaker 2: baseball fan. But it was a standalone game. But it
1:32:29
Speaker 2: was on it was on Prime. Like I saw people
1:32:32
Speaker 2: losing their mind. Now, first of all, the Prime thing,
1:32:34
Speaker 2: I don't everyone has Prime, and if you don't have Prime,
1:32:38
Speaker 2: then that means you're not watching Thursday night football because
1:32:40
Speaker 2: Thursday that football change Prime, right, But still the whole
1:32:43
Speaker 2: streaming thing. I wonder how that's worked out for the NBA,
1:32:45
Speaker 2: because the NBA seems to be of all the leagues,
1:32:48
Speaker 2: the most gest you're a big NBA fan, does the
1:32:50
Speaker 2: NBA seem to be It seems to be the most
1:32:53
Speaker 2: confusing of all the sports right now because is it
1:32:56
Speaker 2: on Prime? Is it on Peacock where the playoff game?
1:32:59
Speaker 7: You know? Yeah?
1:33:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the way know, just just watching stuff
1:33:05
Speaker 2: on a in a gray area that she'll not be
1:33:07
Speaker 2: talked about. Yeah, it's it's a different deal.
1:33:09
Speaker 7: But but.
1:33:12
Speaker 3: I have John, I have ways.
1:33:14
Speaker 2: She has one of those little sketchy boxes that are
1:33:17
Speaker 2: highly illegal, and someday a bunch of people they're not
1:33:21
Speaker 2: somebody's going to show up at her house and some
1:33:24
Speaker 2: got the g man are going to show up with
1:33:25
Speaker 2: the black suits, the black tie, the sunglasses.
1:33:28
Speaker 3: They'll have to deal with my husband.
1:33:30
Speaker 2: We're gonna go where's Jess at have you seen Jess
1:33:32
Speaker 2: for the last week? No, no idea.
1:33:34
Speaker 3: I'm not very highly kidnappable.
1:33:36
Speaker 2: I'm well we'll see. I mean, listen, when the cable
1:33:40
Speaker 2: companies and Direct TV and Fubo and YouTube TV aren't
1:33:44
Speaker 2: liking you, you never know they got some juice they got.
1:33:47
Speaker 7: I don't know.
1:33:47
Speaker 4: I have a copper pipe and my husband gave me
1:33:49
Speaker 4: two years ago and it's still in my front seat.
1:33:52
Speaker 2: Okay, well good luck on that one.
1:33:55
Speaker 7: You know you're right though, because the thing is, the
1:33:58
Speaker 7: NBA used to be so simple. It was either on
1:34:00
Speaker 7: TNT or it was on ESPN.
1:34:02
Speaker 2: Like that was it.
1:34:02
Speaker 7: Because the locals Now, even in the first round, the
1:34:04
Speaker 7: locals go away. In the NBA.
1:34:05
Speaker 9: There's no local first round like there used to be
1:34:08
Speaker 9: so everything. But now you just don't know where the
1:34:10
Speaker 9: whole thing is now, as far.
1:34:11
Speaker 7: As the NFL is concerned, and I know a lot
1:34:13
Speaker 7: of people are.
1:34:14
Speaker 9: You can at me all you want, but the reality
1:34:17
Speaker 9: is if you can't find it by now, then you're
1:34:20
Speaker 9: just some old person that's like, you know, like my
1:34:22
Speaker 9: mom or something that's constantly calling me.
1:34:24
Speaker 7: I can't figure it out. It's constant. Everybody knows what
1:34:29
Speaker 7: I'm talking about. Your parents are constantly calling your dad
1:34:31
Speaker 7: or your mom or whatever.
1:34:32
Speaker 9: And it's like, look, man, it's on Prime. Everybody has Prime.
1:34:35
Speaker 9: It's on Netflix. Everybody has Netflix.
1:34:37
Speaker 7: Now, look if it's on Peacock or something, I can't
1:34:39
Speaker 7: help you. I'm not sorry Peacock, but I'll go to
1:34:42
Speaker 7: a sports bar or something. But we know this is
1:34:44
Speaker 7: the way it's going to go.
1:34:46
Speaker 2: And this is the way that life works in general,
1:34:48
Speaker 2: and this is what.
1:34:49
Speaker 9: We have and everything is evolving to certain things and
1:34:51
Speaker 9: people can kick and scream and whatever, but the NFL
1:34:54
Speaker 9: has made it abundantly clear that this is what they're
1:34:56
Speaker 9: going to do.
1:34:57
Speaker 7: Like you and I got into this. They're playing games every.
1:35:00
Speaker 9: Day, but Tuesday. Next year, they're gonna add a Tuesday.
1:35:02
Speaker 9: That's they're gonna play seven games a week, days a week.
1:35:04
Speaker 7: They don't care. They want, they want to rule the world.
1:35:08
Speaker 9: They're gonna play on you know, Thanksgiving Eves. They're gonna
1:35:11
Speaker 9: play on Thanksgiving. They're gonna play on This is it.
1:35:14
Speaker 9: This is what they want because they know there's revenue
1:35:16
Speaker 9: out there and it's the almighty dollar and they're just
1:35:18
Speaker 9: not gonna stop.
1:35:19
Speaker 7: And then at some point, and this is gonna be
1:35:21
Speaker 7: unfortunate when it gets there, but they're gonna put a
1:35:23
Speaker 7: lot of it.
1:35:24
Speaker 9: You know, Super Bowl might be on pay per view
1:35:26
Speaker 9: or whatever the case may be, whatever is the model
1:35:29
Speaker 9: that makes them the most revenue.
1:35:30
Speaker 7: They don't care about player safety, they don't care about rest,
1:35:33
Speaker 7: they don't care about fans. They care about revenue period,
1:35:36
Speaker 7: end of story. They don't care about competitive like, oh,
1:35:39
Speaker 7: you can't play this team in that you can't. They
1:35:41
Speaker 7: don't care. It's not about the champion. It's about how
1:35:43
Speaker 7: much money they can get. That's all they care about.
1:35:46
Speaker 2: In the NFL is the one league, though, I think
1:35:48
Speaker 2: you'd agree NFL is the one league out of the
1:35:50
Speaker 2: big four. They can do whatever the hell they want.
1:35:52
Speaker 2: They're the one.
1:35:53
Speaker 7: Here's what's dangerous though, Here here's what I think is dangerous.
1:35:56
Speaker 9: They can push around in networks all they want. So
1:35:59
Speaker 9: like Fox asked to have them, like before before the NFL,
1:36:02
Speaker 9: what was Fox like the Simpsons and America's most wanted.
1:36:05
Speaker 3: And like that was it?
1:36:06
Speaker 7: Like that's they got that. That kind of that changed
1:36:09
Speaker 7: the whole network. You've got to have the NFL now,
1:36:11
Speaker 7: but the.
1:36:12
Speaker 9: Screaming services don't. And I think that's what's really interesting
1:36:15
Speaker 9: is Netflix doesn't need the NFL and Prime doesn't need
1:36:17
Speaker 9: the NFL.
1:36:18
Speaker 7: Bezos needs the NFL. He doesn't. He likes having it
1:36:22
Speaker 7: because all of his rich friends and he's like, I
1:36:24
Speaker 7: have the NFL though, as they're sitting on a yacht.
1:36:27
Speaker 9: But that's where this kind of gets really interesting, is
1:36:29
Speaker 9: the networks have to have it that the streaming services don't.
1:36:33
Speaker 7: But they'll pay for it. They'll pay the most money though, regardless.
1:36:36
Speaker 2: Will all right, uh, National TV, our national radio, national stuff,
1:36:40
Speaker 2: Westwood one. People can't hear you there.
1:36:45
Speaker 9: Yeah, Saturday, Sunday, Monday morning, Like I'm on a ton
1:36:48
Speaker 9: so yeah, we get tons of calls, lots of people
1:36:51
Speaker 9: talking hawks, a lot of people angry about the Mariners.
1:36:53
Speaker 9: And we've we've got this built in. It's been it's cool.
1:36:56
Speaker 7: We go over the.
1:36:57
Speaker 9: Country in Canada and all that, but I will consistently
1:37:01
Speaker 9: get calls from Seattle on and and and surrounding cities
1:37:06
Speaker 9: all weekend long, and I'm very.
1:37:07
Speaker 7: Grateful for it. I'll talk because of you.
1:37:09
Speaker 2: I appreciate.
1:37:10
Speaker 7: Yeah, I hate, I hate to give you any credit.
1:37:11
Speaker 3: No, it probably painted Jeff Bezos voice. Again, that was
1:37:14
Speaker 3: kind of funny.
1:37:17
Speaker 7: Where's that pipe you bring up with you walk around
1:37:19
Speaker 7: that thing or just in your car?
1:37:20
Speaker 2: It's it's in her car.
1:37:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, no, it's in my car, but it
1:37:24
Speaker 3: is hidden. For any of those who know what a
1:37:26
Speaker 3: wrap for, it looks like it.
1:37:27
Speaker 7: Is not mine. Under the French seat.
1:37:32
Speaker 3: Is probably worth like two three hundred bucks heavy copper pipe.
1:37:37
Speaker 9: She just has to she's now, anybody that knows your car,
1:37:41
Speaker 9: that thing's gone.
1:37:42
Speaker 2: She's just told she can't bring it upstairs because she's
1:37:44
Speaker 2: a good chance she'd use it on Softy during cross talks.
1:37:46
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, it has to remain in the car.
1:37:50
Speaker 2: All right, I'll talk to you next week.
1:37:51
Speaker 12: See it.
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Speaker 12: Hi, I I am such a Homer sports fan that
1:38:44
Speaker 12: I hardly pay attention to the NBA since we haven't
1:38:46
Speaker 12: had a team, but will very much pay attention when
1:38:49
Speaker 12: we get a team back. As for Oklahoma, since they're
1:38:53
Speaker 12: so good, Yeah, they end up in the news and
1:38:55
Speaker 12: you hear about them.
1:38:56
Speaker 7: Even when you're not trying to.
1:38:58
Speaker 12: And of course yeah it really they bugs me, really
1:39:01
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1:39:06
Speaker 11: Hello show, I'm out pressure Washington Stikan right now. What
1:39:10
Speaker 11: a good topic. I'm thirty nine years old, so I
1:39:14
Speaker 11: remember sitting at the tea arena with Sam Presty literally
1:39:18
Speaker 11: ten rows behind us. The tickets were I think seven dollars.
1:39:23
Speaker 11: It was Kevin Durant's rife year. And I still hate
1:39:28
Speaker 11: Sam Presty in Oklahoma City Thunder just as much as
1:39:31
Speaker 11: I did sitting in those stands what twenty years ago.
1:39:35
Speaker 2: Let's yeah, they're a uh it's a hot topic. We
1:39:39
Speaker 2: even get into it today. I tease it in the
1:39:40
Speaker 2: first segment the first hour of the show. We didn't
1:39:42
Speaker 2: get into it today, so we'll probably get it a
1:39:43
Speaker 2: little bit more more tomorrow. The whole are the thunder
1:39:48
Speaker 2: in your head thing? That's just that's crazy.
1:39:52
Speaker 3: Oh yes, clearly, very much.
1:39:54
Speaker 7: So what do you got.
1:39:56
Speaker 13: Let's forget about them being eight outs away for a second.
1:39:59
Speaker 13: They won the first two games on the road against
1:40:02
Speaker 13: the Blue Jays. They were up two games to none.
1:40:05
Speaker 13: I think all of us Meridith fans are thinking, oh
1:40:07
Speaker 13: my God, is this it? Is it finally gonna happen.
1:40:09
Speaker 13: They only need to win two more games out of five,
1:40:12
Speaker 13: and they couldn't do it. Moving forward after that, it
1:40:17
Speaker 13: is World Series or bust for this team.
1:40:19
Speaker 7: That's it.
1:40:19
Speaker 13: If they make it to the ALCS this year and lose,
1:40:22
Speaker 13: I won't be.
1:40:22
Speaker 2: Happy a lot of Dan Wilson conversation. That's a good
1:40:28
Speaker 2: point though. I mean it's actually a really good talk
1:40:30
Speaker 2: back because yeah, like it wasn't just the one decision.
1:40:34
Speaker 2: It's the fact they blew the lead and have the lead.
1:40:36
Speaker 7: And all that.
1:40:37
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:40:37
Speaker 4: Serious, that's a sports end that we've been chalking up,
1:40:40
Speaker 4: is saying it's over.
1:40:41
Speaker 3: Before it's over, you got a few more, Yeah, we did.
1:40:45
Speaker 2: It's also the family that owns Panda Express. They're partial
1:40:50
Speaker 2: owners of the Blazers. She went to school in Court
1:40:53
Speaker 2: of Valles.
1:40:55
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, not good.
1:40:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about Tom Dunnan and just joining as Blazers
1:41:01
Speaker 2: laid off half their front office today cost cutting measures.
1:41:05
Speaker 3: I didn't know that Panda Express had money issues.
1:41:08
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, exactly. And but yeah, the minority owner, one
1:41:13
Speaker 2: of the minority owners is the guy that's like CEO
1:41:16
Speaker 2: or she's something like that with Pan Express, So that's
1:41:18
Speaker 2: probably bad for their business of the area.
1:41:21
Speaker 3: It's not gonna do better.
1:41:22
Speaker 8: Hey, they're Ian, Jessaman and Christmas. Yep, let's start with Dan.
1:41:30
Speaker 8: We win in spite of our manager, Dan Wilson.
1:41:32
Speaker 2: And I gotta be honest with you.
1:41:34
Speaker 8: If your last name is Wilson in the city of Seattle,
1:41:36
Speaker 8: you clearly didn't have the qualifications.
1:41:38
Speaker 7: For your job.
1:41:39
Speaker 8: I'm looking at you, Mayor and you Dan. Now, JP,
1:41:45
Speaker 8: his arm has been trash for the last year and
1:41:48
Speaker 8: a half. Why didn't we move him to second in
1:41:50
Speaker 8: the off season? I don't get it, Go Murner.
1:41:55
Speaker 4: I mean, Russell had the qualifications as of Wilson, that's
1:42:00
Speaker 4: about it.
1:42:01
Speaker 3: For a while, he didn't keep them.
1:42:03
Speaker 2: He was fine, though, what else?
1:42:05
Speaker 7: Yet? He was people?
1:42:06
Speaker 14: You can't build your team like the Thunder. The Thunder
1:42:09
Speaker 14: built their team like the Dallas Cowboys of the nineties
1:42:12
Speaker 14: by trading away an overrated star player for a legendary
1:42:18
Speaker 14: hall of draft picks and players. Okay, see got the
1:42:24
Speaker 14: feature MVP and five or so first round picks. So
1:42:30
Speaker 14: do you want to know who built the Thunder?
1:42:33
Speaker 7: It was the Clippers. Yeah.
1:42:35
Speaker 2: I was outside of chet Holmer that it that's it
1:42:38
Speaker 2: for the talkback. Probably lets get some next four nine,
1:42:41
Speaker 2: four to five one and a lot of Danielson talk here.
1:42:44
Speaker 2: Jeff says he is service light, and that's not a compliment.
1:42:48
Speaker 2: Twent six. You don't need underlying stats or underlying numbers. No,
1:42:51
Speaker 2: JP is terrible defensively. You just need eyeballs. WHOA Dan
1:42:57
Speaker 2: Wilson is perfect for the potal fifty four percent. Wilson
1:42:59
Speaker 2: had a fifty four winning percentage. That's becoming a manager.
1:43:02
Speaker 2: At least we were winning games. Sure, true, Yeah, I'm
1:43:06
Speaker 2: not sure, says John how Mad, it should be a
1:43:08
Speaker 2: Dan Wilson because I'm not sure how many decisions are
1:43:10
Speaker 2: is his? How much are predetermined? The game is different today.
1:43:13
Speaker 2: I think five percent of those decisions are his. Analytics
1:43:15
Speaker 2: rule today that team has made the most of the
1:43:17
Speaker 2: decisions for every scenario, at every point in the game.
1:43:19
Speaker 7: It seems.
1:43:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, see that's the thing. We don't know. We don't
1:43:23
Speaker 2: know how much is him? How much is predetermined? You
1:43:26
Speaker 2: know you're looking down your card. It's like this, this
1:43:28
Speaker 2: and this. Lou and others as a two of six
1:43:34
Speaker 2: obviously managed longer. But Dana has the highest winning percentage
1:43:37
Speaker 2: of any of them. He also has probably the argue
1:43:39
Speaker 2: with the best team, at least deepest team that they've
1:43:41
Speaker 2: had too. I'd send Jay and Edgar with him to
1:43:46
Speaker 2: also tell Eachro to find a hobby. It's time to
1:43:47
Speaker 2: get rid of the past new marriers.
1:43:49
Speaker 4: Oh, come on, I love Eachi Row. He's down there
1:43:53
Speaker 4: every single day. I'm down there quite a bit.
1:43:55
Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't think each throw is a problem.
1:43:58
Speaker 2: I think I think, Actually, I'll be honest with I
1:44:00
Speaker 2: think the Etro thing now it's a little weird, but
1:44:05
Speaker 2: that's him a little eccentric. Let's call him eccentric instead
1:44:08
Speaker 2: of weird.
1:44:08
Speaker 3: He does eachier Row does.
1:44:10
Speaker 2: Eachi Row a little eccentric. But I think if you're
1:44:15
Speaker 2: a young player, you're playing in the clubouse like hey man,
1:44:18
Speaker 2: as a Hall of fam we're still out here shagging balls,
1:44:20
Speaker 2: hanging out. It's kind of cool, right, That's what I like.
1:44:23
Speaker 3: What negative could be there?
1:44:25
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see no sympathy for Blazer fans after they
1:44:28
Speaker 2: continually trash Jody All and bet they wish they still
1:44:30
Speaker 2: had Heard as the owner.
1:44:31
Speaker 7: Now, oh they do.
1:44:33
Speaker 2: They went from we hate Jody, we wish Jody was back.
1:44:37
Speaker 2: Let's see, is that like.
1:44:39
Speaker 3: A cress is Greener situation.
1:44:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, same story. Since A four to two five, Why
1:44:43
Speaker 2: didn't someone from Portland by the team they knew this
1:44:45
Speaker 2: could happen. That's the problem. It's just it's first of all,
1:44:49
Speaker 2: finding billions of dollars is hard, right, Finding billions of
1:44:53
Speaker 2: dollars is hard. I put this on again, league, you're
1:44:57
Speaker 2: letting a bad owner in your club, and I have
1:44:59
Speaker 2: to add ask why. And I think the oldeoples said
1:45:01
Speaker 2: this today, like they just this part of the country.
1:45:04
Speaker 2: They just don't seem to care about. Why buy a
1:45:06
Speaker 2: sports team if you're gonna cut everything, says A four
1:45:08
Speaker 2: two five. That's a great point, thank you. Now what
1:45:10
Speaker 2: I was saying, he says he's gonna spend money to
1:45:13
Speaker 2: He'll spend money to the luxury tax for salaries and
1:45:15
Speaker 2: this that I think. First of all, I think that
1:45:17
Speaker 2: the biggest free agent, I do believe this is accurate,
1:45:21
Speaker 2: the biggest, most impactful free agent they've ever had, is
1:45:24
Speaker 2: Brian Grant, like thirty years ago, like free agents don't
1:45:28
Speaker 2: go there. Oh, let's see Lillard you're talking about two
1:45:40
Speaker 2: five three says No, he was a free agent. They
1:45:41
Speaker 2: drafted him.
1:45:43
Speaker 3: Oh, they did drop him. Okay, I sorry, I'm a
1:45:46
Speaker 3: little checked out.
1:45:46
Speaker 2: That's right. Get your you gotta get your copper pipe
1:45:49
Speaker 2: to hit people on the way home.
1:45:50
Speaker 3: Uh No, I wasn't paying attention during that time.
1:45:53
Speaker 2: Two five three, you're talking about the Trailblazers. Exactly what
1:45:55
Speaker 2: a lot of Seahawks fans have are up in arms about.
1:45:57
Speaker 2: It is Jody gonna find the right buyer for the team.
1:45:59
Speaker 2: If she doesn't, then are they going to pack their
1:46:01
Speaker 2: bags and leave town? I think you just have to
1:46:03
Speaker 2: go back to understand. Like the sales process, it's it's
1:46:07
Speaker 2: a lot of people, like a lot of people involved.
1:46:12
Speaker 2: It's the current owners selling to somebody approved by the NBA.
1:46:17
Speaker 2: There's a third party law firm that kind of brings
1:46:20
Speaker 2: those potential buyers into the club and it has to
1:46:23
Speaker 2: be approved by the NBA owners. This is not on
1:46:25
Speaker 2: Jody or Berth.
1:46:26
Speaker 3: This is on the NBA.
1:46:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh I like this one.
1:46:31
Speaker 4: Two six Sorry, but Wilson's here, Seahawks. Luke Wilson was
1:46:34
Speaker 4: a legend here. He was maybe more for he was
1:46:37
Speaker 4: maybe for more than his play on the field.
1:46:40
Speaker 2: Four to five. You expect the NBA to be ethical
1:46:42
Speaker 2: and do the right, thing that was naive. True, that's true.
1:46:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
1:46:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that, that's that's really a lot of
1:46:51
Speaker 2: people talking about loun being on time, not happy.
1:46:54
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know, probably on like Calshi or something.
1:46:58
Speaker 2: London under two o five hit today. Damn it, I
1:47:01
Speaker 2: took lund over two ten, says the two six.
1:47:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nope. Well you didn't know that. I was
1:47:10
Speaker 3: on his ass since yesterday.
1:47:12
Speaker 2: So I appreciate that.
1:47:14
Speaker 3: You're welcome.
1:47:16
Speaker 2: A lot of people saying, oh, you shamelessly tried to
1:47:17
Speaker 2: get the Kings. What did you guys do trying to
1:47:19
Speaker 2: get the Kings? Oh yeah, I think the king saying
1:47:22
Speaker 2: I've said this at number time. I don't we were excited,
1:47:26
Speaker 2: let's bring them here. It's fine. They had a massive
1:47:28
Speaker 2: issue with the with the Arco arena, their old building,
1:47:30
Speaker 2: and there.
1:47:30
Speaker 3: Was a huge problem.
1:47:31
Speaker 2: There was a huge problem, and the MAFs the Moose
1:47:34
Speaker 2: basically were broke. Yes, the move Brothers kind of went broke.
1:47:37
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're and they screwed over the
1:47:38
Speaker 3: city by building a new arena.
1:47:40
Speaker 2: Well no, they didn't build it.
1:47:41
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
1:47:42
Speaker 2: They wanted it, Yeah, they but they had that that
1:47:45
Speaker 2: Arco was done, they had to sell the team. Yes,
1:47:50
Speaker 2: the thing is, I don't think Hanson had the money
1:47:52
Speaker 2: unless Palmer was going to be involved all those things.
1:47:55
Speaker 2: But Leun's right, look at you look at the history
1:47:57
Speaker 2: of that Franchi. Oh my god, I mean they have
1:47:59
Speaker 2: not been They've been to the playoffs one time since
1:48:02
Speaker 2: he bought it fifteen, sixteen years ago. They've only been
1:48:05
Speaker 2: to the playoffs one time since the six seven season. Actually,
1:48:11
Speaker 2: go back twenty plus years. They've been to the playoffs
1:48:13
Speaker 2: one time. That might be the worst organization in sports.
1:48:16
Speaker 2: And you know, because we guys look at the thing,
1:48:18
Speaker 2: what's the longest playoff drought? Well that's one thing, right,
1:48:23
Speaker 2: but look over like a decade or two decades, how
1:48:27
Speaker 2: many times have you actually been there? One time? In
1:48:30
Speaker 2: five oh six, they lost in the Western Conference Final
1:48:33
Speaker 2: first round? And wait, was that was that? Seattle?
1:48:39
Speaker 1: No?
1:48:39
Speaker 2: San Antonio, Sorry, because then they lose to Seattle. And yeah,
1:48:45
Speaker 2: so in the five playoffs the year before Clayton be
1:48:49
Speaker 2: bought the Sonics, they Sonics beat him in the first round.
1:48:52
Speaker 2: They've been to the playoffs. Think about this, since the
1:48:55
Speaker 2: Sonics beat the Kings in the playoffs in two thousand
1:48:57
Speaker 2: and five. They've been to the playoffs two times, lost
1:49:00
Speaker 2: in the first round both times the Kings. That's bad ownership, folks,
1:49:04
Speaker 2: that's really bad ownership. All right, Softie's next. All right,
1:49:39
Speaker 2: we gotta line up, we gotta line up for Tag
1:49:41
Speaker 2: Team Night. David, what do you got? What's going on?
1:49:43
Speaker 2: What do you got up for Tag Team night tonight?
1:49:45
Speaker 2: So do you got Tag Team night?
1:49:47
Speaker 10: Is that a for a nest family thing?
1:49:48
Speaker 4: No?
1:49:49
Speaker 7: No, no, no, tag team is it?
1:49:51
Speaker 5: Isn't it?
1:49:51
Speaker 2: Bryce Miller, Luis Castillo, piggyback, piggyback? I'm sorry, yeah, right right,
1:49:56
Speaker 2: Bryce Miller started. Oh, Cole Emerson, congrat gratulations. He moving
1:50:01
Speaker 2: up the lineup, By the way, he is hitting ninth tonight.
1:50:03
Speaker 2: You know, I guess you're hitting. Guess who's leading off?
1:50:05
Speaker 2: You'll never don't look who.
1:50:07
Speaker 15: Leo Rodriguez, No, JP Crawford, no, Cole Young, keep going,
1:50:13
Speaker 15: Taylor Randy A.
1:50:14
Speaker 2: Rose, no, Luke Rayley No, come on, man, keep God
1:50:19
Speaker 2: keep going.
1:50:20
Speaker 9: Uh.
1:50:20
Speaker 15: Leo Reavas is no longer here. He's in a Tacoma.
1:50:24
Speaker 15: Mitch Garver, who have I not mentioned? I've mentioned every
1:50:28
Speaker 15: damn starter on the team. For God's sake, your leadoff hitter,
1:50:31
Speaker 15: d hing tonight okay? Rob Refsnyder?
1:50:34
Speaker 1: Wow?
1:50:35
Speaker 7: Wow.
1:50:36
Speaker 2: Someone someone put a lineup together and said, let's get
1:50:40
Speaker 2: ref Snyder leading off and make sure we get Wisdom
1:50:45
Speaker 2: in seconds.
1:50:45
Speaker 15: Patrick Wisdom? Is he back up? He's back up? He
1:50:48
Speaker 15: came back up yesterday. Actually, here's the interesting thing, now
1:50:50
Speaker 15: that I look at it carefully. No, JP Crawford right,
1:50:53
Speaker 15: he's only been hit like twice in a row now,
1:50:55
Speaker 15: like maybe he's finally got to take a date.
1:50:57
Speaker 2: But was Emerson at shortstop? T Emerson's at shortstop and
1:51:00
Speaker 2: Wisdom's your third base?
1:51:01
Speaker 8: Wow?
1:51:02
Speaker 2: Well, god, this feels this feels March Tempee like this line.
1:51:05
Speaker 15: I was very curious to see how long it would
1:51:07
Speaker 15: take to get Emerson over at shortstop. And what I
1:51:10
Speaker 15: don't want to see happen is him going back and
1:51:12
Speaker 15: forth from third to short short to third, Like, let's
1:51:14
Speaker 15: let this guy get comfortable. I think I think he
1:51:17
Speaker 15: played with him a chance. I heard Joe Shean coming
1:51:21
Speaker 15: in here. And it's funny because I had the same
1:51:24
Speaker 15: thought when they signed Donovan. I remember tweeting, well, there's
1:51:27
Speaker 15: your new second baseman, because that's where he played in
1:51:31
Speaker 15: Saint Louis because they had Eronato at third and now
1:51:34
Speaker 15: he's at third and he can't play third. You know
1:51:36
Speaker 15: why he can't play third because he's a second baseman.
1:51:40
Speaker 15: But you have Cole Young at second base. So she's point,
1:51:44
Speaker 15: which actually I could make out this week versus last week.
1:51:47
Speaker 2: Did you like the audio? Well, last week was more
1:51:49
Speaker 2: like this week was much clearer.
1:51:53
Speaker 15: So whatever you people did, it was yes, all right,
1:51:56
Speaker 15: good work, jess right, honestly, all right. You know, time
1:52:00
Speaker 15: you contribute something to the radio station the way to go,
1:52:03
Speaker 15: we'll put that on your resume. All right, may have
1:52:06
Speaker 15: twenty twenty six fixed Joe Shean's phone on your resume.
1:52:10
Speaker 15: But you got a bunch of guys that you want
1:52:12
Speaker 15: to have in the lineup, was Joe's point. But they
1:52:14
Speaker 15: all play the same spot, or you have too many
1:52:17
Speaker 15: guys at the same spot. Correct, too many second basement,
1:52:20
Speaker 15: too many third basement, too many short stops, too many guys.
1:52:24
Speaker 15: It's just the way this thing was built defensively is weak.
1:52:29
Speaker 15: There's no doubt you can argue they're better offensively potentially
1:52:33
Speaker 15: down the road, but the way they were built defensively is,
1:52:36
Speaker 15: let's face it, kind of a mess.
1:52:37
Speaker 2: When everyone's if and when everybody gets healthy, right, Col's
1:52:42
Speaker 2: healthy and Donovan's healthy. Although I don't know if that's
1:52:45
Speaker 2: ever going to happen, right because I mean whatever, it's growing.
1:52:50
Speaker 2: But when they're healthy, I've got one. It's been lingering
1:52:52
Speaker 2: for twenty years. Twenty years. I'm just sitting here. But
1:52:55
Speaker 2: you got two. You got two guys in the lineup
1:52:57
Speaker 2: every day, and a Rose of Rain and Crawford that
1:52:59
Speaker 2: should be dhs.
1:53:00
Speaker 15: Yeah, they're both terrible defensively, I mean less space facts.
1:53:03
Speaker 15: So Rose Arena might be the worst left field or
1:53:05
Speaker 15: in base, but you can't take his bat out, No, JP.
1:53:07
Speaker 15: Crawford is the worst shortstop in baseball. That's what he
1:53:10
Speaker 15: gets on base. You've got to play one of those
1:53:12
Speaker 15: guys in the field, obviously, because they both can't d age.
1:53:16
Speaker 2: Imagine being a pitcher. So you're sitting there, pitch, I
1:53:18
Speaker 2: got to strike everybody out right, because the ball goes
1:53:20
Speaker 2: If the ball goes left side to short stop for
1:53:22
Speaker 2: left field, ye, it's an eventuld we hear the.
1:53:24
Speaker 15: Guy that caught Emerson's home run last night? I saw,
1:53:28
Speaker 15: I saw, I saw a postgame. They met up, okay,
1:53:30
Speaker 15: and he got a ball bat whatever do we know
1:53:33
Speaker 15: did he ask for any money or anything like that
1:53:36
Speaker 15: or did.
1:53:36
Speaker 3: You Webbly not. Usually it's just the experience.
1:53:39
Speaker 2: That's what I would go for. Yeah, I like cash. Well,
1:53:43
Speaker 2: you know, here's you've just signed a ninety five million
1:53:45
Speaker 2: dollars d See that's the problem. Like something something for
1:53:49
Speaker 2: the efort young man, first hit, first home run. For
1:53:51
Speaker 2: most players, the guy's making seven to fifty a year, right,
1:53:54
Speaker 2: not this guy. This guy's got ninety.
1:53:56
Speaker 7: Five in the best guy.
1:53:57
Speaker 3: But is that a douchey move honestly to have more money?
1:54:01
Speaker 2: Yes, it is, Okay, I think for the I think
1:54:03
Speaker 2: for a young kid it would be. I think if
1:54:05
Speaker 2: it was a you know, someone just hit their four
1:54:07
Speaker 2: hundredth home run and they're making eighty million a year, right,
1:54:10
Speaker 2: I want my cat.
1:54:11
Speaker 15: For a normal young guy who was on a minimal contract. Yeah,
1:54:14
Speaker 15: but this guy's got ninety five million bucks coming to him. Yeah,
1:54:17
Speaker 15: what a what a what a gesture it would have been,
1:54:20
Speaker 15: and it would have maybe it happened and we don't
1:54:22
Speaker 15: know about it, but it would have elevated cold Emerson
1:54:24
Speaker 15: even more if it leaks out that the guy didn't
1:54:27
Speaker 15: want any money.
1:54:28
Speaker 2: But cold Emerson just gave him fifty grand anyway. Honestly,
1:54:32
Speaker 2: I think it cost him fifty grand to get his
1:54:34
Speaker 2: whole entourage out here from yesterday though. Let us see, people.
1:54:40
Speaker 15: The only problem I had with the video of his
1:54:41
Speaker 15: mom and dad last night is when he hit the
1:54:43
Speaker 15: home run. Who was the big, giant, tall guy sitting
1:54:46
Speaker 15: in front of his mom?
1:54:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, get the hell out out of the way, dude,
1:54:49
Speaker 2: trying to watch mom go nuts to your man? Come away,
1:54:52
Speaker 2: fell out.
1:54:53
Speaker 4: I would like to have the opportunity to bring a
1:54:57
Speaker 4: young person with me to meet Colt at a later date.
1:55:00
Speaker 15: That's what you would do if I had. If you
1:55:02
Speaker 15: caught the ball, nephew, got you, you won't ask for
1:55:06
Speaker 15: any money. You wouldn't want member experience something.
1:55:13
Speaker 2: You know what, You've got a guy down the ballpark tonight, Mike,
1:55:15
Speaker 2: we do work Central is down at the ballpark tonight.
1:55:19
Speaker 15: Is there that story? Isn't the players get annoyed by him?
1:55:22
Speaker 15: By the way, he's a very nice guy. I'm not
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Speaker 15: saying he's not a nice guy. There's a lot of
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Speaker 15: nice guys that annoy the piss out of me. Mike
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Speaker 15: Benton from Usually Hockey Today, I'm here on the Baseball beat.
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Speaker 15: As you consider the repercussions of last night, what sticks
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Speaker 15: out to you?
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Speaker 3: He does call me his boss whenever i'm with him,
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Speaker 3: does Hey, this is my boss right here? I'm like, no,
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Speaker 3: I'm not.
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Speaker 2: I've heard that.
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Speaker 7: You actually asked for that.
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Speaker 2: By the way, that's what you refer to me as
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Speaker 2: your miss McIntyre when we're down there.
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Speaker 3: I'm married now, Oh god, okay, alright, what are you
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Speaker 3: doing today?
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Speaker 15: Let's see Jason Minnick is our friend from San Antonio
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Speaker 15: ESPN Radio. He's gonna join us, coming up at four
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Speaker 15: o'clock today. John Wilner is in La at the Big
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Speaker 15: Ten meetings. Yes, he's gonna pop on at five o'clock tonight.
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Speaker 15: And then that Brian Schmetzer, a five forty five little
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Speaker 15: fun with audio. We'll talk about last night's game. And
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Speaker 15: I think we just stumbled upon a topic. Is it
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Speaker 15: appropriate to ask for money when you possess a baseball
1:56:28
Speaker 15: or some type of memorabilia that players covering?
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Speaker 7: What what he got?
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Speaker 2: Get betting on that? Here's boss, Get him on that.
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Speaker 7: Find out? Find out? All right?
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Speaker 15: See for the mild mannered and marginally objectionably infness, this
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Speaker 15: is paddle Day saying so long everyone,