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The Rita Panahi Show | 22 May · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On scoring leaves Ostrodia. This is the Wader Panalty Show.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show. Coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight, We've saved the best for last. The always
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  Speaker 2: brilliant Douglas Murray will join to discuss, among other things,
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  Speaker 2: today's extraordinary scenes in the Oval Office as President Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump confronted the South African president over his country's racist,
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  Speaker 2: anti white policies and violence. Also tonight, an indigenous elder
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  Speaker 2: calls out fringe dissident groups blocking major projects. Nick Kata
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  Speaker 2: will be here to cover the day's top stories, including
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  Speaker 2: the ABC's absurd sexes.
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  Speaker 3: And allegations against David Little Crowd. Adam B.
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  Speaker 2: Coleman will have the Lakers from the US and later
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  Speaker 2: in the hour his is sco filled with celebrity and
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  Speaker 2: world news and Lefti's Losing It features a number of
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  Speaker 2: totally sane, totally rational activists, but First Victorian Opposition leader
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  Speaker 2: Brad Batton has refused to censure the two MPs accused
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  Speaker 2: of helping a farmer deliver Premiers just In allan a
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  Speaker 2: box of cow manure with a note reading, dearest Jacinta,
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  Speaker 2: I have considered your levy and here's my feedback. It's
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  Speaker 2: bull dust, love, brutus and family. Liberal mpaser Bev MacArthur
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  Speaker 2: and Nicole Werner were referred to the Victorian Parliaments Presiding
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  Speaker 2: Office after they escorted the farmer who had attended Tuesdays
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  Speaker 2: scrapped the tax rally on parliament House steps, leading the
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  Speaker 2: farmer to the Premier's office, where he left the manure
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  Speaker 2: behind with the note. Here is what the opposition leader
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  Speaker 2: had to say about the incident.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's not something I would have done, but what
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  Speaker 4: I do know is yesterday people were very, very angry
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  Speaker 4: when it comes to the new taxes that are impacting
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  Speaker 4: on farms across Victoria.
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  Speaker 5: There is a reason that thousands of.
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  Speaker 4: Farmers came from all over Victoria with their fire trucks,
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  Speaker 4: with their uniforms to explain to the Victorian government that
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  Speaker 4: they are fed up with being the feeding cow for
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  Speaker 4: this government's budget.
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  Speaker 2: But Premier just Center Allen was outraged by the incident.
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  Speaker 6: The couple of Liberal politicians acted in a disgraceful inappropriate
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  Speaker 6: way in a workplace, in the parliamentary workplace. Well, I
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  Speaker 6: condemn that behavior. You know who hasn't condemned that behavior?
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  Speaker 6: The leader of the opposition, Brad Batton.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me now is senior fellow at the Mensies Research Center.
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  Speaker 2: Nick cat I've got to say it is a refreshing
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  Speaker 2: change to have a liberal leader who actually sticks up
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  Speaker 2: for his MPs like his unlike his predecessor. But what
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  Speaker 2: do you think about this entire incident, this manure stunt.
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  Speaker 7: Whenever somebody on the left called something inappropriate, it really
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  Speaker 7: wants to to make you want to do more of it,
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  Speaker 7: doesn't it really? And that you know in the end,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, what Bev MacArthur and her colleague were doing
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  Speaker 7: were delivering a message from the farming community that just
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  Speaker 7: sind Allen has just not been listening to. I'll be surprised, actually, incidentally,
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  Speaker 7: if she even knew what was in the box without
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  Speaker 7: being told, because I don't think she's ever been out
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  Speaker 7: to a farm or to the country. So she behaves
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  Speaker 7: like somebody who's got no regard whatsoever for our farmers
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  Speaker 7: and has stick to this completely unfair tax on them
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  Speaker 7: for firefighting and so forth, when they are the most
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  Speaker 7: assiduous volunteers during the firefighting season. Yeah, I just think
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  Speaker 7: she has she's absolutely deaf to anything that happens outside
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  Speaker 7: of outside of Melbourne. And if this is what it
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  Speaker 7: takes to get the message home, well let's bring a
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  Speaker 7: truckload in.
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  Speaker 2: Now to a rather bizarre accusation leveled at National's leader
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  Speaker 2: David Little Proud by the ABC's Patricia Carvellis, it's a question.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of blokes have been
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  Speaker 1: asking questions.
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  Speaker 5: To be nice, if I coul asked some question.
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  Speaker 8: Patricia Carvellos, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: I've just observed this.
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  Speaker 6: I'd actually like to ask you, David Little Proud actually
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  Speaker 6: if you at mine.
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  Speaker 2: But Nick, the first question in that little press conference
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  Speaker 2: was asked by a woman, and a woman asked the
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  Speaker 2: question immediately before Patricia Carvellis's question. Indeed, I think there
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  Speaker 2: were no fewer than five questions asked by women before
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  Speaker 2: Carvella spoke.
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  Speaker 1: So you're getting back together?
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  Speaker 5: No, this all our time, the.
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  Speaker 2: Announcement of these portfolio allocations.
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  Speaker 1: You can see that you've got the.
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  Speaker 9: Garments abilities like nuclear are I have got to go
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  Speaker 9: to the legal party there under review, are about to
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  Speaker 9: be under review, the subject to review.
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  Speaker 1: If it is a no, what then?
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  Speaker 4: Why was this decision made with haste?
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  Speaker 1: On Tuesday one McKenzie if we.
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  Speaker 2: Ken Nick there seems to be an overeagerist to keep
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  Speaker 2: pushing this gender issue whether it exists or not. And
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  Speaker 2: I would argue in that setting it certainly didn't exist
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  Speaker 2: because the female reporters were chiming in and asking the
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  Speaker 2: questions as you'd expect them to.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sick of this women explaining, you know, women
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  Speaker 7: thinking they could explain to us men, what's what you know?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, that's the sort of attitude here, isn't it.
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  Speaker 7: I'm a woman, I get special rights to ask questions
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  Speaker 7: before anybody else, and because I'm from the ABC, I
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  Speaker 7: asked really stupid ones. You know, it is just ridiculous
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  Speaker 7: that it has come to this, particularly when it's quite
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  Speaker 7: interested to see seven thirty Report. I've caught the seven
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  Speaker 7: thirty Report a couple of nights this week, when you know,
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  Speaker 7: a female host interviewed two female politicians, one of whom
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  Speaker 7: is a leader of the Liberal Party right now and
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  Speaker 7: perfectly normal nowadays, nobody sort of thought that's two women.
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  Speaker 7: I certainly didn't until Petia Carvellis raised this. I really
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  Speaker 7: really think that well, a bit weak beyond silly.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I've had nights on this program where every
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  Speaker 2: guest is female. It's not typically the way, but it's
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  Speaker 2: never planned and it's never a box ticking exercise. You
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  Speaker 2: just get who you want to speak to. I would
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  Speaker 2: have thought that would be the way to go. Now,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about Victorious on more. This week's Victorian state
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  Speaker 2: budget has revealed that the Victorians are paying more taxes
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  Speaker 2: than anywhere else. Victoria's taxes as a percentage of the
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  Speaker 2: economy have grown faster than any other state or territory,
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  Speaker 2: with Victoria's one point six percent hike making the state's
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  Speaker 2: taxes double the national average. And the Allen government is
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  Speaker 2: raking in a whopping forty six billion dollars each year
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  Speaker 2: through taxation. And yet we still have the biggest debt
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  Speaker 2: in the country, and we've got a interest bill that
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  Speaker 2: is approaching ten billion a year.
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  Speaker 1: It's astounding, isn't it.
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  Speaker 7: I Mean, Victoria's a very fast growing state, large thanks
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  Speaker 7: largely to immigration, that's increasing revenue all the time. There's
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  Speaker 7: no excuse for this sort of levee on the taxpayers
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  Speaker 7: of Victoria, and I one of they're leaving and because
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  Speaker 7: you know, I mean, what does she do with the
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  Speaker 7: money here in New South Wales. I don't want you
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  Speaker 7: to get tunnel envy here as a Victorian, but we
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  Speaker 7: now have the second longest road tunnel in the world.
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  Speaker 7: I think it'll soon be the longest when we finish
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  Speaker 7: the new Cross Harbor Tunnel, all done with no additional
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  Speaker 7: debt to the state, all done within budget, on time.
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  Speaker 7: How can we can do it in New South Wales
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  Speaker 7: and they can't do it in Victoria. It just seems
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  Speaker 7: to me that there's a degree of incompetence which is
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  Speaker 7: entrenched in the way the Victorian government operates. And it
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  Speaker 7: really is. You know, if there's anywhere we need a
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  Speaker 7: doge in Australia, it's Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you'd have a You'd have a lot of fun
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  Speaker 2: if you had that role here. There is a lot
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  Speaker 2: of bureaucratic fat to cut moving along now. Former Prime
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  Speaker 2: Ministerial Indigenous Policy Advisor and Elder Roy Ac has worn
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  Speaker 2: that fringe activists establishing dissident groups to block major projects
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  Speaker 2: and delegitimize the network of one hundred and twenty one
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  Speaker 2: land councils across New South Wales that are by law
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  Speaker 2: the representative bodies for Indigenous people. This comes nick after
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  Speaker 2: the former Environment Minister Tania plivsec listen to one of
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  Speaker 2: these fringe disis groups when making the decision to block
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  Speaker 2: Regis's one point three billion dollar gold mine proposal. Nick,
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  Speaker 2: you'll remember the orange Land Council warned Plivasec that there
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  Speaker 2: was no evidence for the activist group's claims that the
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  Speaker 2: gold mine would disrupt a blue banded be dreaming story,
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  Speaker 2: but she disregarded their advice and lock the mining project.
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  Speaker 2: And this would have delivered tens of millions in royalties
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  Speaker 2: for the New South Wales government, so many well paying
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  Speaker 2: jobs in a regional area. What do you make of
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  Speaker 2: this issue, because it's not just isolated to this particular
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  Speaker 2: mine and this particular project.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 7: I'm glad roy I See has called this out because
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  Speaker 7: we've been noticing this for a long time. Blainey being
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  Speaker 7: the most obvious example where there's sort of pop up
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  Speaker 7: aboriginal representative body can suddenly block this very lucrative project
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  Speaker 7: that would have brought wealth and royalties and everything else
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  Speaker 7: to Australia, and Tanye Plibersek was silly enough to fall
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  Speaker 7: for it. I mean, did you really think this was
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  Speaker 7: a genuine group that represented anybody other than a handful
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  Speaker 7: of activists. But the thing is, it's become lucrative reacher.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, if you've managed to form one of these
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  Speaker 7: organizations and convince people that you are not in any
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  Speaker 7: of the arrest but you are actually the original owners
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  Speaker 7: of that land. So if you want to do something like,
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  Speaker 7: for instance, the bath thirst two thousands, you'd have to
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  Speaker 7: spend you'd have to give us.
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  Speaker 1: Lots and lots of money in order to run this thing.
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  Speaker 7: It really has become a money making engine on the
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  Speaker 7: one hand, and on the other hand, it's become a
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  Speaker 7: way for activists, largely environmental activists, to block projects which
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  Speaker 7: are perfectly good and perfectly sound and will bring lots
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  Speaker 7: of wealth and jobs to Australia, but they don't like
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  Speaker 7: it for one reason or another.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's they're almost always they're almost always anti development,
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  Speaker 2: whatever the development is. The politics of these groups are
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  Speaker 2: very similar across the board, Nick Cata, thank you so
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  Speaker 2: much for your time tonight. Thank you joining me now
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  Speaker 2: is best selling author Douglas Murray. His latest book on
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  Speaker 2: democracies and death cults Israel in the Future of Civilization
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  Speaker 2: has hit the shelves. Get yourself as a copy Douglas.
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  Speaker 2: We had some extraordinary scenes today in the Oval Office
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  Speaker 2: where President Donald Trump, in front of the media sought
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  Speaker 2: to shame the South African president with the ugly truth
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  Speaker 2: of the anti white, anti boa racism and violence in
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  Speaker 2: his country. He played a clip showing, among other things,
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  Speaker 2: politicians calling for white farmers to be killed. Astonishing killed
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  Speaker 2: the boa killed the farmer. Douglas. The South African president
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  Speaker 2: claimed that anti white violence wasn't an issue, and then
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  Speaker 2: he was played fairly lengthy video showing otherwise, that's right.
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  Speaker 10: By the way, the position the South African president had
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  Speaker 10: there must be now the least desirable seat in any
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  Speaker 10: politic or meeting. I think you could see in his
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  Speaker 10: face that he thought, oh no, it's going to be
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  Speaker 10: Zelenski mark two. It was a fascinating exchange and of
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  Speaker 10: course the denial from the South African government is not new.
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  Speaker 10: This is something that they have done for years. They've
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  Speaker 10: allowed the most appalling anti.
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  Speaker 1: White racism to go on in their country.
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  Speaker 10: They still, all these decades after the end of apartheid,
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  Speaker 10: find it very very useful and indeed easy to allow
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  Speaker 10: anti white racism to run rampant and often with lethal consequences.
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  Speaker 10: I'm very glad that President Trump did call this out.
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  Speaker 10: It's maybe only President Trump among all world leaders, really
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  Speaker 10: could have done so, and done so so forcefully. But
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  Speaker 10: I would just look to the backlash that I would
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  Speaker 10: expect in the coming day for much of the media internationally,
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  Speaker 10: not just in South Africa about this. I've already seen that,
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  Speaker 10: you know, papers like The Guardian are saying, you know,
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  Speaker 10: Donald Trump pushing conspiracy theories about the killing white South
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  Speaker 10: African farmers.
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  Speaker 1: And I'd expect a lot more of that.
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  Speaker 10: They will join in the denial that the South African
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  Speaker 10: government has so gleefully engaged in for so.
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  Speaker 1: Many years.
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  Speaker 2: Now. The South African President Cyril Ramafosa bought golfers Ernie
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  Speaker 2: Els and Retief Goosen to the White House with him
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  Speaker 2: to I guess, diffuse tensions with the Trump administration. We
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  Speaker 2: know Donald Trump loves his golf, but it didn't go well. Douglas.
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  Speaker 2: Listen here as Goosen recounts his own family's story, adding
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  Speaker 2: further weight to Trump's claims about violence against white farmers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, some of these buddy farmer's got killed. The farm
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  Speaker 1: is still going.
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  Speaker 4: My brother has run it, but it's a constant battle
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  Speaker 4: of farms trying to get They're trying to burn the
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  Speaker 4: farms down to chase you away.
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  Speaker 2: Douglas, You're right about the media. They're already melt down mode,
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  Speaker 2: trying to claim this issue isn't real, and the usual
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  Speaker 2: suspects are pushing this notion that any concern for this
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  Speaker 2: issue means you're racist.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, well, that's something that much of the media has
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  Speaker 10: done for a very long time about that. There are
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  Speaker 10: even politicians in America today who are saying, why would
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  Speaker 10: President Trump push this issue as opposed to all of
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  Speaker 10: the other murders, massacres, human rights abuses that go on.
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  Speaker 1: Around the world.
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  Speaker 10: And there's an obvious answer to that, which is that
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  Speaker 10: there are actually a lot of people who speak about
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  Speaker 10: a lot of issues. Speaking about it and doing something
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  Speaker 10: course two very different things. But what President Trump has
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  Speaker 10: picked up here is one of those issues which other
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  Speaker 10: political leaders do.
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  Speaker 1: Not want to talk about.
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  Speaker 10: There are always, as it were, popular human rights issues,
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  Speaker 10: popular human rights abuses for politicians to latch onto. A
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  Speaker 10: look at the way in which the French, British Canadian
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  Speaker 10: governments have been obsessing for the last week, as indeed
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  Speaker 10: for the last eighteen months about the exact amount of
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  Speaker 10: nutrition that people in Gaza have had access to in
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  Speaker 10: recent days. They do that because of a constituency at
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  Speaker 10: home that they believe wants to hear that, and because
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  Speaker 10: they believe that it burnishes their credentials as people at
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  Speaker 10: the forefront of liberal human rights issues. In fact, it
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  Speaker 10: takes far more guts to do what President Trump has
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  Speaker 10: done today, and as well as all of the other
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  Speaker 10: issues that he's highlighted and that many other leaders have highlighted,
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  Speaker 10: highlight one that has been icuously ignored by people who
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  Speaker 10: would otherwise hold themselves out as great defenders of human
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  Speaker 10: rights around the world.
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  Speaker 2: And you could suggest it's been ignored precisely because of race.
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  Speaker 2: So those claims are racism. Yeah, those making it perhaps
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  Speaker 2: need to look in the mirror. Now to another case
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  Speaker 2: of censorship and frankly madness in the UK, where a
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  Speaker 2: retired policeman was arrested and handcuffed in his own home
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  Speaker 2: by six police officers, six officers from Kent Police, the
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  Speaker 2: same force he served for around the decade, and his
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  Speaker 2: crime well, he tweeted something warning about the threat of
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  Speaker 2: anti semitism in Britain as the Telegraph reports police bodycam
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  Speaker 2: camera footage captured officers scrutinizing the seventy one year old's
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  Speaker 2: collection of books by authors such as Douglas Murray and
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  Speaker 2: issues of The Spectator, pointing to what they described as
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  Speaker 2: and I quote very bricksity things. Douglas, what is going
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  Speaker 2: on in your motherland?
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  Speaker 10: It's pretty amazing, you know, Rita Like U, I sort
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  Speaker 10: of think I can't be shocked by the denigration of
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  Speaker 10: the British police and the British state.
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  Speaker 1: And then here, you know, you wake.
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  Speaker 10: Up one morning and discover that police have gone into
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  Speaker 10: a man's house and are rummaging through his bookshelves and
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  Speaker 10: accusing him of effectively wrong think. The man that they
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  Speaker 10: briefly handcuffed and then took down to the police station
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  Speaker 10: for hours of questioning had obviously extremely good taste.
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  Speaker 1: In reading material.
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  Speaker 10: He not only had my international best seller of the
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  Speaker 10: War in the West, he had copies of the Spectator magazine.
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  Speaker 10: This means that this is one ex policeman at any
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  Speaker 10: rate who's definitely thinking.
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  Speaker 1: About the right things and reading the right things.
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  Speaker 10: But what an extraordinary thing it is that people in
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  Speaker 10: Britain have to live in a society where that would happen.
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  Speaker 1: And I can tell you something Rita like you.
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  Speaker 10: If the police went into people's houses and rumi's through
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  Speaker 10: their bookcases and found copies of some badly selling left
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  Speaker 10: wing magazine and some left wing author's latest book, I
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  Speaker 10: would be incensed by that as well. The police have
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  Speaker 10: absolutely no darn right to do this sort of thing
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  Speaker 10: from any political direction, but you know, of course they
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  Speaker 10: think they can in this occasion. There's one thing that
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  Speaker 10: does need to be said in this region. I said
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  Speaker 10: this in the spectator of the magazine that the police
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  Speaker 10: in Britain don't want you to read, apparently despite it
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  Speaker 10: being Britain's best selling and oldest weekly magazine.
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  Speaker 1: There's something that has to be said. Kent police, who
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  Speaker 1: had your audacity to.
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  Speaker 10: Do this, have solved in areas over which they have control,
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  Speaker 10: zero burglaries.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do it again, zero burglaries.
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  Speaker 10: In areas where there have been hundreds of home break ins,
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  Speaker 10: police have managed to solve none of those crimes, not one.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe there is a.
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  Speaker 10: Correlation, isn't there between a police force that cannot police
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  Speaker 10: crime and a police force that would like to go
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  Speaker 10: around to a retired police officer's house and rummage through
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  Speaker 10: his bookcases and articles relating to his late daughter's death
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  Speaker 10: in a hit and run accident that was never solved.
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  Speaker 10: Maybe maybe they do that stuff because they can't do
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  Speaker 10: their job.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the collection that I would.
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  Speaker 10: Like to see more people call out, not just this
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  Speaker 10: thought policing, but the fact that the thought policing or
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  Speaker 10: the would be thought policing is done by police forces
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  Speaker 10: that seem to have no ability to do actual policing.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that is a widespread issue in Britain. Isn't
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  Speaker 2: it the failure of the police force to solve crimes,
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  Speaker 2: real crimes like breaking and acts of violence. Meanwhile, we've
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  Speaker 2: got Kirs Starmer, the Prime Minister. Well, he's in danger
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  Speaker 2: of being arrested with some of the commentary he's been
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  Speaker 2: tweeting Douglas extraordinary stuff. It seems to be morphing into
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump if his work on x is to be believed.
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  Speaker 2: In the past couple of weeks, he's posted about coming
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: for illegal immigrants. He said he'll put Britain first, and
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: and the reliance to cheap overseas labor that's taking jobs
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: from Brits. He posted, if you want to live in
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the UK, you should speak English. That's common sense, bravo.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: He also said settlement in the UK is a privilege
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: that has to be earned, it's not a right. And
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: he also said this about strong borders, that the Tories
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: lost control of our borders and let net migrations saw
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: to record levels, undercutting hard working Brits. I won't stand
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: for a douglass the Prime Minister going to get a
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: visit from the Constabulary for these sorts of non crime
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: hate incidents, because that is a real thing in Britain.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I'm frankly a little bit surprised by how he's become
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: some right wing reactionary.
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: Well, of course, if anyone else has said this, if
• 21:17
  Speaker 10: I'd have said this, or you'd have said this, Rita,
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: I'm sure Kis Starmer and his police force would take
• 21:22
  Speaker 10: a different view. But of course I don't believe a
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: word of it. First of all, it's perfectly true the
• 21:28
  Speaker 10: last Conservative government lost control of the borders, absolutely true.
• 21:32
  Speaker 10: It's also true though that Kiss Starmer has lost control
• 21:35
  Speaker 10: of the borders. Almost a thousand people came in a
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: couple of days ago and one day alone on the
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: illegal just on the illegal crossings across the Channel on
• 21:45
  Speaker 10: boats organized by criminal gangs. When he says that it's
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: not a right to land in Britain and just stay,
• 21:56
  Speaker 10: he's right, it's just something anyone can do. However, it's
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: just something that nobody in his government or his border
• 22:03
  Speaker 10: force are doing.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Anything to stop.
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: They behave as though it's impossible to stop tens of
• 22:10
  Speaker 10: thousands of people arriving just across the channel every year illegally,
• 22:14
  Speaker 10: let alone the hundreds of thousands of other people who
• 22:17
  Speaker 10: arrive in the UK every year legally and illegally and
• 22:21
  Speaker 10: get net migration up almost a million in the last
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: couple of years. But just as I say, this is
• 22:28
  Speaker 10: the most cynical, cynical tactic, and I at any rate
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: don't believe a word of.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: What Keir Starmer says. I have heard politician after politician.
• 22:38
  Speaker 10: Labor and Conservative say this for decades. They always say
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: the same pabulum. They say when they feel like they
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: might need to just sort of enforce the base of it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 10: They say these things like I think that people should
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: speak English if they come to England, and everyone's meant
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: to say, my gosh, what an amazing breakthrough.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter a dance if.
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: You're losing your country all the time because you don't
• 23:03
  Speaker 10: enforce your borders.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: This is as I don't even know if Kis.
• 23:08
  Speaker 10: Starmer has seen these tweets. I'm sure he doesn't write them.
• 23:11
  Speaker 10: His own Home Secretary and Foreign Secretary and others have
• 23:15
  Speaker 10: distanced themselves from the language he's used himself. But it's
• 23:18
  Speaker 10: just language games, Rita, That's all it is. It's language games.
• 23:22
  Speaker 10: They don't do anything not in the real world. Thousands
• 23:26
  Speaker 10: of people will continue to break into Britain every week illegally,
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: and in the meantime, what do we have Kiirs Starmer,
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: the brave tweeter? Well, as you say, Rita, it's lucky
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: that he's Prime Minister and not, for instance, a white
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: or a working class mother in the North of England,
• 23:46
  Speaker 10: or otherwise he'd be having his collar felt this evening.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Douglas, before you go, you've written a superb piece
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: for the Telegraph about America's left his media paying a
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: price for their role in covering up Joe Biden's incapacity.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: It's been obvious incapacity for some years. You argue the
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: fact that so many serious journalists denied what was obvious
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: to all of us, explains why trust in their reporting
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: has collapsed. Is the damage to steep to fix or
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: can they restore their credibility?
• 24:26
  Speaker 10: Well, you know, the interesting thing with the American media
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: class is that so much of it just covered this
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: up for years, not just the past four years, for
• 24:37
  Speaker 10: many years. With Joe Biden, even before the twenty twenty election,
• 24:40
  Speaker 10: they're all routing for him, and so they covered things
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: over for him. And now they all say that their
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: brave truth warriors for writing books about it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Now they claim.
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: Things like, you know, well, you know, there was a
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: sort of cover up from the White House about the
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: extent to which Joe Biden was mentally incapacitated. There wasn't
• 25:02
  Speaker 10: just a cover up from the White House or Jill Biden.
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: There was a cover up by much of the American media,
• 25:09
  Speaker 10: but not all, just as not all the media was
• 25:12
  Speaker 10: to blame for this. There is sure there is a
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: fall off in public trust in America as elsewhere in
• 25:17
  Speaker 10: the media because of a concerted cover up like that.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: But you know, Rita, if.
• 25:24
  Speaker 10: That same political and media class had read the New
• 25:27
  Speaker 10: York Post, they'd have been able to know about this,
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: oh five years before they themselves agreed and broke the story.
• 25:34
  Speaker 10: If they'd have watched you Rita and me Rita on
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: Sky Australia talking in recent years, they'd have seen that
• 25:42
  Speaker 10: we knew something was up, We identified something was up.
• 25:47
  Speaker 10: You and I weren't silent when Joe Biden was claiming
• 25:52
  Speaker 10: that he'd just spoken to dead world leaders, or was
• 25:57
  Speaker 10: wandering off stage and off script in ways were weird
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: even for Biden. So no, it's not everyone who ignored this,
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: but it really, it really is quite hard to stomach
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: to see the very journalists who spent years covering up
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: Biden's cognitive decline now writing books saying, oh, it turns
• 26:20
  Speaker 10: out that Biden in twenty twenty four wasn't peak Biden
• 26:24
  Speaker 10: after all, and how.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Could we have known? There were no signs, nothing to
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: tell us.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when it doesn't matter. Suddenly they've got the breaking news.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: And it's been fascinating to see the reception they're getting
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: from other leftist media who are treating all this as
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: if it's some revelation when the rest of the country
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: has known this, as we have discussed for years. Douglas Murray,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: always a pleasure to speak with you. Thanks for your time.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Thank you still to come.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Left ease losing it plass The latest from the US,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: including Marco Room Bliss Green Senate testimony. Adam B.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Coleman is up next.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: You're watching the Ruda Panney Show and it's time for
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: lefties losing it. And today Donald Trump pulled off a
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: master stroke in front of the world's media. He's shamed
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: South African President Cyril Rapaposa with the ugly truth of
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: anti white, anti bowl racism and violence in his country,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: an issue now the world leader is addressing. And he
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: did it by playing a clip showcasing just how grim
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: the situation is in South Africa. Turn down the lights,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: turn the.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Lags down, turn the lights down, and just put this on.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: It's right behind you.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Of course, that saw the lefto media lose it en
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: mass apparently white farmers being targeted, being killed, having their
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: land taken with our compensation. It's all a conspiracy theory.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Here is the thoroughly detestable Nicole Wallace on MSNBC.
• 28:14
  Speaker 11: Today, Donald Trump meeting with the President of South Africa
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: and attempting to ambush and humiliate that leader inside the
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: Oval office. But what he did instead was embarrassed and
• 28:26
  Speaker 11: humiliate the people of the United States of America. Again,
• 28:30
  Speaker 11: in his meeting with President Raviposa, Trump peddled unsubstantiated claims
• 28:35
  Speaker 11: of genocide in South Africa of white South Africans, a
• 28:39
  Speaker 11: group that ruled during apartheid in South Africa. It is
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: a fringe conspiracy theory.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Conspiracy theory, what like the virus coming from a lab
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: or Joe Biden's suffering cognitive decline. Yiss, it's just a
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: another conspiracy here theory. Let's check in on the sort
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: of scenes witness in the South African Parliament.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: We can do whatever you want to do. Who are
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you to tell us whether we can occupy.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Lent or not?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Who are going to occupy land? South African occupy Lent.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: That's who we are.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: And here Julius Malema, parliamentarian and leader of the Economic
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Freedom Fighters, says that they must be killing, must never.
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: Be scared to kill, and revolution demand that at some
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: point they must be killing because the killing is part
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: of a revolutionary act.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: And here is a stadium full of people all chanting
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: kill the boer, kill the farmer. Now, this week's Secretary
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: of State marc or Arubio's Senate Committee hearing was interrupted
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: by rational totally saying protesters making valid points. Of course,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I just it was the usual left.
• 30:01
  Speaker 12: He's losing it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Weapons joining me now is wrong speak? Publishing founder Adam B.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Coleman Adam. We covered the amazing scenes in the Oval
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Office earlier today with Douglas Murray. I want to play
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: you in exchange between Senator Tim Kaine and Secretary of
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: State Marco Arubia earlier in the week about the few
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: dozen South African farmers granted asylum in the US. This
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: has really upset many on the left.
• 30:52
  Speaker 13: I have a different standard based upon the color of
• 30:55
  Speaker 13: somebody's skin.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: Would that be except well.
• 30:56
  Speaker 14: I'm not the one arguing that.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: Apparently you are because you don't.
• 30:58
  Speaker 14: Know the fact that they're righting Whether to say that
• 31:00
  Speaker 14: that would be on well, no, I would say in
• 31:02
  Speaker 14: the United a very easy thing. In the United States
• 31:05
  Speaker 14: has a right to pick and choose who they allowing
• 31:07
  Speaker 14: to even based on the color of somebody's skin. You're
• 31:09
  Speaker 14: the one that's talking about the color of their skin,
• 31:11
  Speaker 14: not me. These burned down and they were killed in
• 31:14
  Speaker 14: hand the color of their skin. Well, well, you've demonstrated
• 31:20
  Speaker 14: enough because you think anyone should be allowed into this
• 31:21
  Speaker 14: country for any reason, because they who has said that
• 31:24
  Speaker 14: we are going to prioritize people are coming to our
• 31:26
  Speaker 14: country on the basis of what's in the interest of
• 31:28
  Speaker 14: this country. That's a small number of people that are coming.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: But you said said this week and then.
• 31:32
  Speaker 14: But in other course it's harder to vet an other case.
• 31:35
  Speaker 14: That's more difficult. And by the way, the United States
• 31:36
  Speaker 14: admits people every year, Adam.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Anyone who has taken note of what is happening in
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: South African recent years knows full well the discriminatory laws,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: the violence targeted towards what lad holders in particular. Why
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: are the Democrats and so many in the media so
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: eager to deny this and so perturbed by this small
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: in tyke of African coming into the country.
• 32:05
  Speaker 15: Well, it's because the Democratic Party is once again playing
• 32:08
  Speaker 15: identity politics, and there are terms of identity politics. Anyone
• 32:13
  Speaker 15: who is white cannot be oppressed. They can only be oppressors,
• 32:17
  Speaker 15: and they cannot see someone who looks like me or
• 32:21
  Speaker 15: darker than myself as being someone who is oppressing someone else.
• 32:25
  Speaker 15: And the reality is that, yeah, some of these people
• 32:28
  Speaker 15: are facing discrim discrimination and threats because of their skin color,
• 32:35
  Speaker 15: So I really wouldn't care if it was someone who
• 32:39
  Speaker 15: was being oppressed because of their skin color, the religious background,
• 32:42
  Speaker 15: or any other factor. The fact is Marco Ruby was
• 32:46
  Speaker 15: making the point that these people are coming through because
• 32:49
  Speaker 15: they're under threat. They are coming through because they are
• 32:54
  Speaker 15: actual refugees coming from their nation, so they seem to
• 32:58
  Speaker 15: be legitimate to me. I really don't care where someone
• 33:01
  Speaker 15: comes from, as long as they go through the process.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: It can come to the United States, and.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: It seems that Democrats are preoccupied with the skin color.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: They're accusing the Republicans of favoring them because they're white.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: But really these are the only refugees, the early asylum
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: seekers you can think of that the Democrats don't want
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: to help, and you have to wonder why isn't because
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: of their skin color. But Marco Arubia wasn't done yet.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: He then went scorched earth on Democrat Senator Chris van Holland,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: who you'll remember a few weeks ago went down to
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: El Salvador to visit a deported MS thirteen gang banger.
• 33:41
  Speaker 13: Now I have to tell you directly and personally that
• 33:44
  Speaker 13: I regret voting for you for Secretary of State.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I yield back.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: I respond, you meet it.
• 33:50
  Speaker 14: Well, first of all, your regret for voting for me
• 33:52
  Speaker 14: confirms I'm doing a good job.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: In the case of El Salvador.
• 33:55
  Speaker 14: Absolutely absolutely, we deported gang members, gang members, including the
• 33:59
  Speaker 14: one you had a margarita with, and that guy is
• 34:02
  Speaker 14: a human trafficker, and that guy is a gangbanger, and
• 34:05
  Speaker 14: that and the evidence is going to be clear and
• 34:07
  Speaker 14: the data. Rubio has the floor, Chairman, he can't make
• 34:13
  Speaker 14: unsubstantiated Senator like that. Secretary Rubio has the floor.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Rubio should take that testimony.
• 34:19
  Speaker 14: The federal senator states, well, it hasn't done it under oath.
• 34:22
  Speaker 14: Here's another point, Okay, there is a division in our
• 34:26
  Speaker 14: government between the federal branch and the judicial branch. No
• 34:29
  Speaker 14: judge and the judicial branch cannot tell me or the
• 34:31
  Speaker 14: president how to conduct foreign policy.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Mark Gruvio is in fine form these days, OTAM. But
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: it seems Trump's team has adopted his style. They're not
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: backing down, they're bold, they're not trying to appease their
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: ideological opponents. And I've got to say it's pretty effective.
• 34:52
  Speaker 15: Yeah, it's very much so effective when you do the
• 34:55
  Speaker 15: thing that the voters actually wanted you know, there is
• 34:59
  Speaker 15: a mandate that was put in place. A lot of
• 35:01
  Speaker 15: Americans saw what was going on through the southern border.
• 35:03
  Speaker 15: They saw what was happening in the local communities, happening
• 35:06
  Speaker 15: within their cities. This is a very popular choice to
• 35:10
  Speaker 15: actually strengthen our borders to get rid of people who
• 35:13
  Speaker 15: should not be here. And the fact is that the
• 35:15
  Speaker 15: Democrats have played this game of doing the opposite of Trump,
• 35:20
  Speaker 15: even if Trump is right, and so everyone is well
• 35:23
  Speaker 15: aware that the Democrats are on the losing side of
• 35:26
  Speaker 15: this issue. There is no winning when it comes to
• 35:30
  Speaker 15: simping for illegal immigrants and traveling to foreign nations and
• 35:34
  Speaker 15: pretending like these people are your constituents.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: And I really truly hope that the.
• 35:39
  Speaker 15: People who voted for that senator really regret their vote
• 35:43
  Speaker 15: for him, because it's very clear he cares more about
• 35:46
  Speaker 15: foreigners than he does about the American citizens or the
• 35:49
  Speaker 15: legal immigrants who are.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: In this nation.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: And you mentioned the mandate that the Trump administration has,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: and here is a Vice President Jdans explaining that the
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: courts cannot be allowed to set policy. To essentially frustrate
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: that mandate.
• 36:07
  Speaker 13: You cannot have a country where the American people keep
• 36:10
  Speaker 13: on electing immigration enforcement, and the courts tell the American
• 36:14
  Speaker 13: people they're not allowed to have what they've voted for.
• 36:17
  Speaker 13: And that's where we are right now. We're going to
• 36:20
  Speaker 13: keep working it through the immigration court process, through the
• 36:22
  Speaker 13: Supreme Court as much as possible. And look, success to
• 36:25
  Speaker 13: me is not so much in number, though obviously I'd
• 36:27
  Speaker 13: love to see the gross majority of the illegal immigrants
• 36:30
  Speaker 13: who came in under Biden deported.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Adam, is that what's happening here a judicial insurrection of sorts,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: where the courts are usurping the will of the American people.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: That's what it appears to be.
• 36:46
  Speaker 15: It appears to be lower courts, circuit courts are challenging
• 36:49
  Speaker 15: every move that Donald Trump is trying to make within
• 36:52
  Speaker 15: his administration to actually follow through.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: With the mandate we were just talking about.
• 36:57
  Speaker 15: And part of the problem is that Donald Trump is
• 37:00
  Speaker 15: trying to do it as fast and as large as
• 37:03
  Speaker 15: possible when it comes to these deportations and try to
• 37:06
  Speaker 15: keep up with the speed of the illegal immigrants who
• 37:10
  Speaker 15: came into this nation. So he's facing a large, large
• 37:14
  Speaker 15: hill and it's hard for them to do it as
• 37:17
  Speaker 15: efficiently and effectively when you have these courts who are
• 37:21
  Speaker 15: trying to impose basically constant challenges for things that they
• 37:27
  Speaker 15: are claiming that they can and cannot do, and slowing
• 37:29
  Speaker 15: down the process. The reality is that Joe Biden failed
• 37:33
  Speaker 15: as a president when it came to protecting the border,
• 37:35
  Speaker 15: and we had.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: Record numbers of people coming through.
• 37:38
  Speaker 15: Donald Trump is trying to in a very expeditiously way,
• 37:43
  Speaker 15: pull these people out of our nation and to protect
• 37:46
  Speaker 15: the citizens of this country and protect our southern border.
• 37:49
  Speaker 15: So of course he's going to face some sort of challenge,
• 37:52
  Speaker 15: whether it's coming to the courts or other means.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Now, Adam and Roy to fantastic piece in the New
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: York Post about how no one wields dead black people
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: more enthusiastically than progressive idea logues like the New Jersey Man.
• 38:11
  Speaker 10: You know that because we was a documented to.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: A lot of undocumented people.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Adam, did he really compare ice agents to slave catches
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: and compared illegal immigrants to two slaves?
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Yes, very much so he did.
• 38:39
  Speaker 15: And as a voter in the state that he's attempted
• 38:42
  Speaker 15: to become the governor in, I would never vote for him.
• 38:45
  Speaker 15: But simple fact that one is recognizing my race and
• 38:49
  Speaker 15: trying to Trump bring up this whole racial rhetoric coming
• 38:53
  Speaker 15: from slavery times, as if they're equitable. The fact is
• 38:58
  Speaker 15: these people were not supposed to come here. The fact
• 39:01
  Speaker 15: is they came here, and now that their party is losing,
• 39:06
  Speaker 15: this is their only constituents that they want to support.
• 39:09
  Speaker 15: And so my issue as a voter is that why
• 39:12
  Speaker 15: do they care more about them than they do about us?
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Why is he.
• 39:16
  Speaker 15: Standing outside of ice facility, but he's not standing outside
• 39:20
  Speaker 15: of a warehouse where these people are taking American jobs,
• 39:23
  Speaker 15: in particular black jobs from black Americans in Newark, New Jersey,
• 39:28
  Speaker 15: and throughout the state of New Jersey. So no, I
• 39:31
  Speaker 15: do not trust that if this man was to get power,
• 39:34
  Speaker 15: which unlikely, it's unlikely that he will. Man right now
• 39:38
  Speaker 15: is pulling third amongst Democrats. But I do not trust
• 39:42
  Speaker 15: that a progressive like him will get into office and
• 39:45
  Speaker 15: actually care about American citizen like myself and our sovereignty.
• 39:49
  Speaker 15: I think he will do everything possible to basically try
• 39:55
  Speaker 15: to get illegal immigrants to stay, try to get them
• 39:59
  Speaker 15: to become underclass that they have been and within New Jersey.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Well, it seems to be a stupid hill to die on, Adam,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: because the polling on this issue seems to be pretty clear,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: and the polling has changed over the years, but right
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: now it seems to be that the majority of Americans
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: want to see every illegal immigrant deported, not just the
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: ones convicted of crimes, but every single illegal immigrant deported.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: But the Democrats are doubling down on this as a
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: policy issue, and I just do not understand why they've
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: picked this, because they're going to lose the argument every
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: single time. Adam B. Coleman, thank you so much for
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: your time. Tonight still to come, King Charles is heading
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  Speaker 2: to North America is a reunion with prodigal's son Harry.
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  Speaker 2: On the cards, Kinsey Scofield has his details Welcome back,
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  Speaker 2: joining me now celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey
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  Speaker 2: will start with some country music because Morgan Wallen is
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  Speaker 2: topping the mainstream music charts, not just the country charts.
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  Speaker 2: He's now got thirty eight of the top fifty spots
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  Speaker 2: of the US Apple Music Singles Charts. It's incredible country
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  Speaker 2: is bigger than Everkinsy.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 16: His new album I'm the Problem only needed one day
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  Speaker 16: to become Spotify's most streamed country album of twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 16: It's unreal.
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  Speaker 8: He's a triumphun tech talk.
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  Speaker 16: And you know, his songs often revolve around booze fueled
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  Speaker 16: disasters and messy relationships, but he brings his fans along
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  Speaker 16: for the ride, like guilty accomplices, and.
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  Speaker 8: I think that's why they love him.
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  Speaker 16: He's authentic, unapologetic and just super fun.
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  Speaker 1: He is.
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  Speaker 2: And I love that performance on Saturday Night Live where
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  Speaker 2: he just walked off.
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  Speaker 3: He did not.
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  Speaker 2: Stand for any of the nonsense. I'd have just stayed
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  Speaker 2: for them. In fact, now, as Gayle King celebrates thirteen
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  Speaker 2: years at CBS, sources are speculating that her career might
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  Speaker 2: be nearing its end. What can you tell.
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  Speaker 16: Us, Well, her contract's coming up, and she the return
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  Speaker 16: on investment quite simply is not there. She's on the
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  Speaker 16: third rated morning show. But don't worry, Rita. I did
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  Speaker 16: look it up. I googled it. And NASA accepts applications
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  Speaker 16: for their Astronaut Candidate program on an as needed basis,
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  Speaker 16: So all hope is not lost. You know, she'll leave
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  Speaker 16: and she'll start one of those.
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  Speaker 8: Hippie podcasts about good vibes.
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  Speaker 16: She could call it Live Laugh Leech where fame, adjacency
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  Speaker 16: becomes a full time job or me myself and more
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  Speaker 16: me with Gail King, and it will bomb harder than
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  Speaker 16: her CNN show with Charles Barkley.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, Wadia, You're right, She's been very lucky.
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  Speaker 2: She has had a very good run. Being Oprah's best
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  Speaker 2: mate has paid off. But I do wonder whether that
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  Speaker 2: ridiculous little space expedition that her and Katie Perry and
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  Speaker 2: a few other famous privileged women went on has done
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  Speaker 2: lasting damage to their reputations. We've seeing Katie Perry now
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  Speaker 2: become a figure of mockery. People are posting her dance
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  Speaker 2: moves and making jokes about her. And now Gail King
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  Speaker 2: what could be losing her job? Do you think there's
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  Speaker 2: any connection between those two things.
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  Speaker 16: I do think so, because I think that people are
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  Speaker 16: just sick and tired of her and that wasn't in
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  Speaker 16: your face pr stunt that they didn't need or want.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Gail King was really outspoken about the backlash
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  Speaker 2: and claiming it was sexism that people weren't seeing them
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  Speaker 2: as astronauts. Now to reports that twenty four year old
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Hudson is a telling people that she's engaged to
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  Speaker 2: veteran American football coach Bill Belichick, who's a dude who
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  Speaker 2: well is not just old enough to be her father,
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  Speaker 2: is old enough to be her grandfather. Kinsey, that's right.
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  Speaker 16: And one of the reasons why people really do believe
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  Speaker 16: that this is true is because he just had a
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  Speaker 16: fresh paint job on his boat. That's fueling this speculation.
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  Speaker 16: So his boat used to be painted to say eight
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  Speaker 16: rings in honor of a Super Bowl titles. Now it
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  Speaker 16: says one plus eight rings. I mean, this guy is
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  Speaker 16: so much older than Hudson. I wouldn't tempt fait with
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  Speaker 16: till death. DUIs part on the wedding bells. That could
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  Speaker 16: be any minute.
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  Speaker 2: Now, just fifty years between them, that's yeat, that's a
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  Speaker 2: few years now. An insider has told The Daily Mail
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  Speaker 2: that Hailey and Justin Bieber's marriage has turned ugly, the
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  Speaker 2: pair going at each other's throats apparently, and Justin Bieber's
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  Speaker 2: revealed that he'd once told Hailey during a fight that
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  Speaker 2: should never be on the cover of Vogue. What sort
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  Speaker 2: of a thing is that to say during a fight? Bizarre?
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  Speaker 16: And to announce that to the world on the day
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  Speaker 16: that they release her Vogue cover which completely hijacked the headlines.
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  Speaker 16: She didn't get to have a victory lap about this
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  Speaker 16: cover because all anyone wanted to talk about was the
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  Speaker 16: nasty way that he treated her and what he said
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  Speaker 16: to her. You know, in the same article, the source
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  Speaker 16: quotes them as Romeo and Juliet without the warm mid ending.
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  Speaker 16: You know, calling them Romeo and Juliet does not make
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  Speaker 16: it romantic. It just means their relationship has a body count.
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  Speaker 16: You know, there's nothing romantic about this drama.
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  Speaker 2: Now to Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner's daughter Violet. She's
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  Speaker 2: written about a tense argument with her famous mom about
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  Speaker 2: climate change after her family escaped to a hotel to
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  Speaker 2: avoid the smoke from the Los Angeles fires. This is
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  Speaker 2: in a candid essay for Yale Kinsey. What else can
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  Speaker 2: you tell us?
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  Speaker 16: I mean, she calls her brother basically stupid. You know,
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  Speaker 16: this paper is so arrogant and condescending. It's really brave
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  Speaker 16: for her to speak out about climate change from the
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  Speaker 16: comfort of a luxury hotel suite that her famous mother
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  Speaker 16: paid for. And it's easy to worry about the ice
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  Speaker 16: caps melting when you've never had to worry about paying rent.
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  Speaker 16: Her mother is so sweet and was elbowed deep in
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  Speaker 16: ash volunteering to rescue people in pets stirring those fires.
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  Speaker 16: I don't think she needed a lecture from a Nepo baby.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the Nepo babies can be insufferable. Now, sources of
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  Speaker 2: told Page six that Taylor Swift will finally have the
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  Speaker 2: chance to buy back the original recordings of her first
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  Speaker 2: six albums Kinzia. It's going to cost a bit, isn't it?
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  Speaker 8: I know? But will she read it?
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  Speaker 16: Two years ago, Bloomberg estimated that the re recorded albums
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  Speaker 16: had a combined value of forty no, I'm sorry, four
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  Speaker 16: hundred million dollars. So she earns royalties from each swimming song,
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  Speaker 16: each record sales, album purchases. So the pr war between
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  Speaker 16: Taylor and Screw de Braun turned out to be incredibly
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  Speaker 16: lucrative for her. Would she rather continue to re record
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  Speaker 16: what's left?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do know that she may
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  Speaker 2: be called as a witness in the black Lively justin
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  Speaker 2: Baldoni case, and that I've got the popcorn ready for
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  Speaker 2: because that's going to be good times. But before you go,
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  Speaker 2: King Charles and Queen Camilla are coming to North America.
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  Speaker 2: There's a great deal of conjecture interest in whether this
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  Speaker 2: will mean a reunion with Harry.
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  Speaker 12: Is that on the.
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  Speaker 16: Cardskinsy when hell freezes over? When hell freezes over.
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  Speaker 8: Well that happened.
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  Speaker 16: I don't think King Charles wants anything to do with
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  Speaker 16: Prince Ari who has never found a camera and a microphone.
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  Speaker 8: He hasn't complained about his relatives too. I just don't
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  Speaker 8: see that happening anytime soon.
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  Speaker 2: But he does have two grandchildren he's probably never seen,
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  Speaker 2: or if he's seen very little of, and he's only
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  Speaker 2: got two sons. And you're not thinking, given his battling cancer,
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  Speaker 2: he should reconsider.
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  Speaker 16: Any interaction Prince Harry has with his father. Gives Harry
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  Speaker 16: content that he can go sell and you know, whether
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  Speaker 16: it's an interview.
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  Speaker 8: Remember the second.
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  Speaker 16: He met with King Charles, he told, good Morning America,
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  Speaker 16: I just saw my father who has cancer. He talked
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  Speaker 16: about how these moments can bring people back together. It's
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  Speaker 16: content for Prince Harry, and I don't think that the
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  Speaker 16: royals trust him.
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  Speaker 2: That is an excellent point, and I think probably that's
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  Speaker 2: the number one reason why nobody in the family wants
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  Speaker 2: to deal with him or Megan, because they don't want
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  Speaker 2: to provide more content for the next podcast, the next
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  Speaker 2: Netflix series or book. Kinsey Schofield, you now did. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you so much for your time tonight, and that's all
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  Speaker 2: all the time we have. Up Next is Newsnight. I'll
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  Speaker 2: see you tomorrow night. For Left, he's losing it at nine.