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Jags Drive Time: Monday, August 12 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeff Wars did you don't checkle Jack Warris did Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps, John Ashley, Jaguars Drive Time
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Speaker 1: starts right now. Welcome in Jags Drive Time. Monday morning,
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Speaker 1: a beautiful Monday, as the Jaguars are on the practice
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Speaker 1: field right now. This drive Time is brought to you
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Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans. The team is on the field
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Speaker 1: today and tomorrow as they get ready to face the
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles in the second preseason game on Thursday. No,
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Speaker 1: not bat field and there's no lines yet, John, So
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Speaker 1: they're not ready for Thursday. Quite yes, looks good at me.
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Speaker 1: Two more practices before the Eagles game. A lot of
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Speaker 1: work to do after we watch that first preseason game
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Speaker 1: last Thursday. Definitely a lot of work to do with
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Speaker 1: the depth. Guys, what are your takeaways from this last
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Speaker 1: game as we get into this week. Well, um, that
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Speaker 1: the depth is a concern, but I don't think it's
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Speaker 1: as much of a concern oh overall. In terms of
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Speaker 1: the teams. Maybe some fans are making out thirty players
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Speaker 1: didn't play, Brian, When thirty players don't play and all
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Speaker 1: your front line plays, I don't know how to gauge it.
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Speaker 1: I have a hot take on that coming up later on.
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Speaker 1: But I'm not worried about the team overall. Uh, it
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Speaker 1: has to stay healthy, and it doesn't stay healthy. It
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Speaker 1: sent me very good. I'm not worried about depth. I
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Speaker 1: mean there are some spots where you're not deep, but
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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. Offensive line in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League is an area that lacks depth. Every team
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Speaker 1: deals with that. Now we get the news today that
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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, who we were all worried, Oh, he's not
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Speaker 1: gonna be ready for the season. Now he's off pub. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so do you have a death problem there? No, I
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Speaker 1: guess not as I mean. Today's news doesn't intertident what
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Speaker 1: I mean. He's gonna be ready for the sea. It
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Speaker 1: sounded as if he wasn't gonna be ready at all,
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Speaker 1: And now today we find out it's coming off. I
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Speaker 1: wonder why we had to do that, Why we couldn't
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Speaker 1: just wait and see how it comes out, because I
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Speaker 1: know that Saturday I was getting all kinds of messages. Well,
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Speaker 1: so he's not being ready for the season, well not,
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Speaker 1: at least he's ready to practice. If that's the case,
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Speaker 1: then you have some measure of depth, because a boy
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Speaker 1: he seems like he's going to be a swing tackle.
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Speaker 1: Duwan Taylor, You're right, tackle doesn't have a serious knee injury,
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Speaker 1: just has Bruce right. So if you've got a third
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Speaker 1: tackle like a boy, he was sure he's able to
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Speaker 1: play right, Well, do you really have a death this year?
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Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing you don't know about left
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Speaker 1: tackle is how good is Cam gonna be? And that's
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Speaker 1: the biggest question that was a question last year. Get
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Speaker 1: him off pub is step a. Will he be the
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Speaker 1: player as a rookie? He was good for a rookie,
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Speaker 1: but he definitely needed to get better and he really
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Speaker 1: wasn't at the beginning of last year. The book on
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Speaker 1: him was that he he still needs to get So
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Speaker 1: where is he going to be when he comes back?
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Speaker 1: Now that becomes the Cam Robinson story and Doug marone
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Speaker 1: or more offensive line but one time offensive line bade
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Speaker 1: hires George Warhop, who was his offensive line coach when
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Speaker 1: he came into the league, and a guy he knows well.
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Speaker 1: And I'm told one of the reasons why it's to
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Speaker 1: develop can Roberts. Okay, now you get him on the
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Speaker 1: field and you start to work. I wouldn't expect to
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Speaker 1: see him play maybe a little bit against Miami if
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Speaker 1: he indeed is ready to go. Right, Um, I'd be
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Speaker 1: stunned if he plays but Miami, okay, but you know,
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Speaker 1: a week from now, do you get him a couple
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Speaker 1: of snaps? I just I'm not sure depth is really
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Speaker 1: the problem now. Okay, If you don't have Andrew Norwell
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Speaker 1: playing right because Will Richardson is competing for a starting job,
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Speaker 1: that's death. Because you've got a couple of guys who
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Speaker 1: are out there working it because can can then slide
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Speaker 1: over and play center. And I think you've got some
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Speaker 1: of this. If you have injuries, you have no depth.
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Speaker 1: But offensive line is not the place, in my estimation,
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Speaker 1: to look for death in the NFL because you're not
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Speaker 1: likely to find no. But you have depth on the
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Speaker 1: defensive line as much as most teams did. I think
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Speaker 1: you have a little bit more, and I've got a
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Speaker 1: hot take on the secondary. I think you've got some
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Speaker 1: death right it takes today. And I think if you're healthy,
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Speaker 1: you've got some depth at running back. You know, Armstead
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Speaker 1: is a guy who played well before he got injured
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Speaker 1: the night and I saw something of a power player
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Speaker 1: in Davonte May's. So you've got a little bit of
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Speaker 1: depth around here, and I think the wide receivers have
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Speaker 1: a measure of death. The key is just staying healthy.
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Speaker 1: Then of all the depth when you when you don't
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Speaker 1: play your starters or many of their backups good. No
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Speaker 1: one can expect that ast just Brian. If you play
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Speaker 1: a game this year where Jalen Ramsay, Nick Foles play
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Speaker 1: a Campbell, Marcel Darius Miles, jack a j Boy and Leonard,
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Speaker 1: why are we having this cover? So, I mean, that's it,
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Speaker 1: but that's where the jumping off the bridge people I
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Speaker 1: think missed. Those guys don't play, you're done, so let's
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Speaker 1: see what happens when they do play. I I had
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Speaker 1: to call that it was a terrible game to walk.
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Speaker 1: It was a really terrible game to he engaged in
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Speaker 1: to try to make sense. But I knew what it was.
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Speaker 1: I knew it was what the NFL has become, which
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Speaker 1: is ease the players in in game one and ease
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Speaker 1: the players out in Game four and try to get
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Speaker 1: work done in two preseason games. We can talk about
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Speaker 1: this ad nauseam. The future of the preseason. What it right?
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Speaker 1: You're not going to see many of your darters if
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Speaker 1: you're looking to judge the Jaguars, and there are two
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Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen season based on these four preseason games, right,
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Speaker 1: good luck, good luck. The result was no surprise, that's
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Speaker 1: for sure when you knew none of the starters from playing.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely could they have looked a little better, yeah, maybe, sure,
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Speaker 1: not a lot. By the way, the defense gave up
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Speaker 1: five field goal, one touchdown was a pick six. It's
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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit better on that side of the ball,
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Speaker 1: and people are giving a credit for absolutely. Right, let's
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Speaker 1: get right into big things. Big thing one is out
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Speaker 1: injuries done. Myr own spoke at eight fifteen this morning
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Speaker 1: and there is an update to one of the guys
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Speaker 1: that we were going to talk about being out for
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Speaker 1: the preseason, and that is Cam Robinsonecially, injuries have been
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Speaker 1: a big thing. We do have one change, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: which we're excited about. Obviously. Cam Robinson is gonna be
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Speaker 1: off a pup so um, he'll be out there on
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Speaker 1: the practice field. He'll be going through walks, throughs and
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Speaker 1: individual confirmed. Cam Robinson's on the practice feel today right
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Speaker 1: now taking reps at left tackle. The first practice seen
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Speaker 1: from him and over a year guy, so interesting to
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Speaker 1: see with that. Big thing too is O line. We
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Speaker 1: talked about the depth and the competition at O line.
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Speaker 1: One position to keep an eye on is that right
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Speaker 1: tackle and right guard. It's a good battle because, um,
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Speaker 1: you're excited about the young kid. You know A j
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Speaker 1: has the ability to do it and obviously consistency, which
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Speaker 1: you know he wants more of himself. And we're all
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Speaker 1: trying forward and saying with Brandon who's battled injuries in
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Speaker 1: his career, who is now pretty much healthy, and again
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Speaker 1: it's the same thing, just the consistency of going out there.
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Speaker 1: So um, yeah, it's not it's not a bad thing.
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Speaker 1: And big thing three is depth. We just talked about it. Guys.
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Speaker 1: What people think is the lack of depth after the
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Speaker 1: first preseason game. But the argument is you were playing
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Speaker 1: against the Baltimore Ravens starting team, So the depth we
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Speaker 1: go back and forth, isn't an issue or not. I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't think depth is an issue for this football
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Speaker 1: I don't. I I'm a little concerned about the depth
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Speaker 1: of the quarterback well because that but it's kind of
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Speaker 1: self we always knew that, right, But if you get
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Speaker 1: behind folds if Fools goes down, well, I don't care
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Speaker 1: who if Chad Henny's your back up, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. You've got a bunch of rookies out there playing.
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Speaker 1: So I think the offensive concerns the other night can
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Speaker 1: be very much trace to young kid, first NFL start
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Speaker 1: against the first team defense. Um, let's see you Gardner Minshew.
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Speaker 1: We've talked about Gardner Minshew. I think it a little
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Speaker 1: bit of concern arm strength there. But um let's see
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Speaker 1: if what we saw that night. I'd like to see him.
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Speaker 1: If he's gonna be the guy at new preseason, which
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Speaker 1: might be the case, and I'm not sure what the
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Speaker 1: plane time is gonna be, I'd like to see him
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Speaker 1: maybe with a few players who are frontline guy that
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Speaker 1: I don't think he'll see it, to give him a
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Speaker 1: little bit more of a fair fight. Well, and he
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Speaker 1: had a good practice yesterday which shows you and it
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Speaker 1: and not just the way he was throwing the ball
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Speaker 1: in drills, but the way he did in the red zone. Right.
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Speaker 1: There was some two minute stuff that he did very
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Speaker 1: well when he hit one down deep where he had
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to hit one, and he hit it in
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Speaker 1: the two minutes with a minute thirty eight on the clock.
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Speaker 1: So I wrote in quick thoughts right after the game,
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Speaker 1: they have to have a plan for this guy, because
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Speaker 1: it's not as if these three bright football man Tom
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Speaker 1: Coughlin did called well and Doug Morone watched him on
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Speaker 1: tape at Washington State and watched him through O T
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Speaker 1: A s and said, his arms better than that. He'll
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Speaker 1: be fine. His arm is what his arm is. It's
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Speaker 1: his instincts, his intelligence, you know, the savvy nous with
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Speaker 1: which he plays the position that attracted him. They have
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Speaker 1: to have some sort of a plan if they're going
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Speaker 1: into the regular season with him as their number two.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you like if you put the starting offense
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Speaker 1: around him and a big time defense that he can guide.
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Speaker 1: You can take his hand. Not going to win games
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Speaker 1: with his arm, absolutely, So going back to big thing one,
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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson off pup. Drastic change from Saturday when Dugmoon
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Speaker 1: was worried he wasn't being able to for week one
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Speaker 1: of the regular season. Definitely abrupt change, but it's definitely
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Speaker 1: good news for the offensive line. It's good news. I
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Speaker 1: I wonder as we sift through because we just found
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Speaker 1: out about this way an hour ago. Is it a
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Speaker 1: drastic change, or is it okay, we're gonna have him
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Speaker 1: on pop All right, let's take him off PUP and
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Speaker 1: just sort of see how he does. I don't think
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Speaker 1: there's a feeling. I've never gotten a feeling that that
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Speaker 1: they think that he's going to miss the first seven games.
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Speaker 1: Follow me, PUP is usually an injury reserve or usually
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Speaker 1: a place reserved. If you feel like he's not going
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Speaker 1: to be ready through that, then you go ahead and
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Speaker 1: keep him on PUP week one. We'll see it. Sounds
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Speaker 1: like they certainly think Cam will be back by week
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Speaker 1: two or three, either suddenly shooting for a week one.
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Speaker 1: I still wonder if this means they're going to be
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Speaker 1: able to accelerate it through week one, but we'll stay.
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Speaker 1: I wonder if it's a major change or a minor. Well,
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Speaker 1: now here's my thing, and I think I hit it
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Speaker 1: off the top of the show. Relax. The regular season
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Speaker 1: is a month away, and the dramatic change your team
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Speaker 1: feels that too, right, He said in his press conference.
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Speaker 1: He was frustrated on Saturday. Coach, don't let the frustration
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Speaker 1: shine through in your press conference, because then your team
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Speaker 1: doesn't quite know what to do with it. I'm confused
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Speaker 1: this morning. My inbox is confused this morning. Here's the
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Speaker 1: deal with him. Get him out on the practice field
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Speaker 1: next week. See where he's at. You've been You don't
10:43
Speaker 1: Leonard Wester is not gonna be your left tackle. You
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Speaker 1: hope not. You know a way he's been getting time
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Speaker 1: over there. I think that the emotion of the injury
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Speaker 1: situation because they were banged up last week. In our
10:54
Speaker 1: TV production meeting, Doug what's going through his card? Some
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Speaker 1: guys were playing It's like he's banged up, he's banged up,
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Speaker 1: and it was like, ooh, this team is banged up.
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Speaker 1: But then some of them played that's training We're a
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Speaker 1: month from the start of the regular season. If people
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Speaker 1: are worried about if they're worried about injuries, take a
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Speaker 1: deep breath. This this incident should be enough to show
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Speaker 1: Saturday to Monday is that only one guy has been
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Speaker 1: lost for the season during training camp. If if you
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Speaker 1: keep those two a minimum and start getting them back
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Speaker 1: around the week one of the regular season, then you're
11:31
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Speaker 1: throw it up there, let's go with it. I'm going
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Speaker 1: with the defensive backfield. UM. Yesterday I was watching some
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Speaker 1: young guys Trey Herndon, h Tay Hayes, Uh Quentin Meeks,
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Speaker 1: who did not have a great day yesterday. But there
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Speaker 1: are a lot of young guys C. J. Reevas. There's
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Speaker 1: all these undrafted rookie free agents and guys who were
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Speaker 1: undrafted rookie free agents who are starting to show signs.
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Speaker 1: If you watched Vas in Baltimore, all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: you feel pretty good about some depth at safety because
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Speaker 1: he can play both strong and free. Yeah, they love
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Speaker 1: him him for long, you bet. And and Herndon's a
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Speaker 1: guy who plays inside and outside. And I think that
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Speaker 1: they have it's a position group where when you're gonna
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Speaker 1: have a twenty million dollar player, you're always going to
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Speaker 1: need to be developing young talent on the practice squad
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Speaker 1: right at the bottom of your roster. I think it's
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Speaker 1: an impressive group. And that guy there, Ta Hayes, he
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Speaker 1: made a couple of big plays on UM on Thursday,
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Speaker 1: and of course you know they had him against six
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Speaker 1: ft four receiver who beat him on a couple of
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Speaker 1: plays too, But he made plays yesterday on the practice field.
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Speaker 1: He's showing signs he's starting to come on. I really
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Speaker 1: like this group, and to me, they're indicative of creating
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Speaker 1: depth because you're going to have highly paid guys, right
15:26
Speaker 1: you're going to have to have lesser paid guys playing
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Speaker 1: in rules. And they've done a nice job with this group.
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Speaker 1: And I think, um, I think there's a bunch of
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Speaker 1: young talented guys back there. Yeah. I think the two
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Speaker 1: that stand out are Herndon and Revis Meekes you mentioned,
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Speaker 1: and he's had a tougher camp than he would have
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Speaker 1: liked and maybe doesn't have quite that step that Trey
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Speaker 1: Herndon does in terms of speed. Um, I think that's
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Speaker 1: what's separating him right now. I think you're right chance
15:53
Speaker 1: next year Herndon has a key role depending on what
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Speaker 1: happens with that boy they of Revas, So I think
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Speaker 1: you're gonna see Herndon and Revas in some capacity be
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Speaker 1: in that group. You generally need seven back there that
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Speaker 1: you really trust. I see them certainly being part of
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Speaker 1: that seven, and you can't have they couldn't have gone
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Speaker 1: out and grabbed to Ron Matthew or Earl Thomas and
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Speaker 1: paid the safety the big money right right, so the
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Speaker 1: dress the physician where you shouldn't have to especially be
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Speaker 1: able to find these. I agree, but you know that
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Speaker 1: that that free safety middle of the field guy right
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Speaker 1: in today's NFL has become a prominent player and a
16:31
Speaker 1: guy who gets paid. You now have three guys you
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Speaker 1: feel pretty good about playing safety. You've got the two corners.
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Speaker 1: You've got a Nickel and Trey Herndon behind d J. Hayden.
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Speaker 1: They've got lots of talent that they can play with
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Speaker 1: back there. Some of it's young like Ta Hayes, like
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Speaker 1: Quentin Meeks, Trey Herndon who showing signs, but there's lots
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Speaker 1: of talent there. There's depth in the defensive back there.
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Speaker 1: And you go back to a few weeks ago and
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Speaker 1: we heard from a J boy and he said that
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Speaker 1: room is pushing Jalen and I every day because we
16:57
Speaker 1: have so much talent behind us, in depth that even
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Speaker 1: jale and I are taking steps toward because we see
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Speaker 1: who's behind us. They've done a nice job amassing talent
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Speaker 1: there and coaching it and getting it ready to contribute.
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Speaker 1: All right, My Bernie would fire grill hot. Take is
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Speaker 1: the wide receiver room is far from solidified, and I
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Speaker 1: mean the last wide receiver spot. Everyone's looking at Terrell
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Speaker 1: Prior or Keeling Cole, but I can't help but look
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Speaker 1: at guys like Rathfiel, Leonard or Tyree Brady. Some guys
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Speaker 1: are making plays on the field every day, and it's
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Speaker 1: making me think that last spot at wide receiver isn't
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Speaker 1: stick and Stone Tyree or Terrell Prior Or Healing cold
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Speaker 1: Because you see guys like this Tyree Brady and all
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Speaker 1: the other guys. Raphail Leonard had to touchdown yesterday from
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Speaker 1: Gardner Mintshew. It makes me question what they're gonna do
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Speaker 1: with that last spot because I don't think it's sticking
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Speaker 1: Stone guys. I think Brady is the guy who could
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Speaker 1: get into the mix out of that bunch um. I
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Speaker 1: don't think Prior is injury right now. Helps if you're him,
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Speaker 1: you'd rather be on the field. I feel like Healing
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Speaker 1: is gonna make the team. I feel like Mark's is
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Speaker 1: probably gonna at the season on pup right now, So
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Speaker 1: that's going to cause that to be sort of a
18:03
Speaker 1: trigger position, meaning a guy might make the roster at
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Speaker 1: that spot who's not on the team all season once
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Speaker 1: Marquise comes back. Sometimes that happens at THEE. You talk
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Speaker 1: about three all summer and then a guys on pup
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Speaker 1: and it changes the dynamic there. But I think Tyree
18:19
Speaker 1: Brady added that Bunch is the guy that I'm watching. Well,
18:21
Speaker 1: I thought Prior was really starting to come. You're starting
18:23
Speaker 1: to see him get more reps, you know, higher up
18:25
Speaker 1: the rank with the twos UM and I still think
18:27
Speaker 1: if he can contribute anything on special teams, he's a
18:30
Speaker 1: guy who fills a role that you really don't have,
18:32
Speaker 1: that big physical receiver, especially with the tight end room
18:35
Speaker 1: as thin as it is. UM it seems to me
18:38
Speaker 1: like that's a spot for him. But I don't know
18:41
Speaker 1: what the injury is. I don't know how long it lingers.
18:44
Speaker 1: And you know, he does have a salary that will
18:47
Speaker 1: be guaranteed if he's on the roster on the first
18:50
Speaker 1: day of the new league year, and they may not
18:53
Speaker 1: want to they may not want to tie themselves to
18:56
Speaker 1: that if they're not sure he's going to be able
18:58
Speaker 1: to stay home. That's a big factor for Prior, by
19:00
Speaker 1: the way, huge factors all of a sudden you're guaranteeing
19:02
Speaker 1: him if he's on their roster, and there's a I
19:05
Speaker 1: think there's a worry with a guy like Prior, some
19:08
Speaker 1: guys if if you release him. Ben Koyak comes to mind.
19:12
Speaker 1: They've released Ben and brought him back. He's a guy
19:15
Speaker 1: who fits here. They understand he can help them. But
19:17
Speaker 1: he's also probably gonna be available if if you release him. Prior,
19:20
Speaker 1: if you release him, probably goes somewhere else. So you've
19:23
Speaker 1: got a little bit that's a roster dilemma with your
19:27
Speaker 1: veteran guys who are well known. There's enough name recognition
19:30
Speaker 1: there somebody would probably bring him if you cut him.
19:32
Speaker 1: So Brady is gonna have to carve a rollout. It's
19:34
Speaker 1: gonna have to be a distinctive rule kind of like
19:36
Speaker 1: Prior has got right now. He's going to have to
19:38
Speaker 1: overachieve I think, to be able to get that spot.
19:40
Speaker 1: But again, the injury situation has a month to play out,
19:43
Speaker 1: So we're gonna find out two different roles Prior in
19:46
Speaker 1: Brady because obviously of the body size, but if there's
19:48
Speaker 1: that big of a gap in salary and are they
19:50
Speaker 1: really that different times it's six dollars in salary roughly,
19:54
Speaker 1: and they've got nine million dollars of cap room they
19:57
Speaker 1: can play with this year, and they're probably going to
19:59
Speaker 1: get that. They'll be some money to roll over next year.
20:01
Speaker 1: They'll probably get to Talvin Smith's money back next year,
20:03
Speaker 1: so you could afford it. It's not like they can't
20:05
Speaker 1: afford to do it. It's just there's a trust factor
20:07
Speaker 1: with the veteran that's it. That'll play in Prior's favor
20:10
Speaker 1: because you've seen him. There's a body of work that
20:12
Speaker 1: he's at least died. But if you're if you're guaranteeing
20:14
Speaker 1: his salary for the start of opening date, you're telling
20:17
Speaker 1: him we're expecting you to be here contributing week in
20:20
Speaker 1: and week out all season one two. Right, very true?
20:23
Speaker 1: All right, John, you're Bernie would fold grail hot tape? Yeah,
20:26
Speaker 1: maybe we should change this to my burning would fire
20:29
Speaker 1: take confusion? And I'm confused, bron I'm confused to this morning. Well,
20:35
Speaker 1: and when I watched this team and I get emails,
20:40
Speaker 1: um boy after Thursday, let's jump off the bridge. They're awful.
20:46
Speaker 1: I look at this team and there is an extreme
20:49
Speaker 1: possibility with this team. I'm calling it a window I'm
20:52
Speaker 1: not sure what to call it. I wouldn't be surprised
20:56
Speaker 1: if they go eleven and five, and I'm not sure
20:58
Speaker 1: i'd be shocked if they go five any left. And
21:00
Speaker 1: I don't feel that way. You know, there were teams
21:03
Speaker 1: in the Gusts Bradley era that I thought, if they
21:05
Speaker 1: could just get to five hundred, that would be such
21:06
Speaker 1: in a college and they could get to seven, I
21:09
Speaker 1: could see this team being a playoff team, um, because
21:13
Speaker 1: I love what we've seen at times in training camp
21:16
Speaker 1: from the offense, and yet there's a couple of one
21:20
Speaker 1: or two key injuries, and I do think if you
21:22
Speaker 1: go off the rails, So I guess that's my hot
21:25
Speaker 1: tach is, don't jump off the bridge with this team.
21:28
Speaker 1: There's a lot that could go right. But the more
21:30
Speaker 1: and more look at it, what happens in the first
21:32
Speaker 1: few weeks of the regular season. If they can stay afloat,
21:34
Speaker 1: I think they can go a long way. I think
21:36
Speaker 1: they can be really good. But I'm confused, just don't
21:40
Speaker 1: know either way. Hot take is, I'm probably as confused
21:44
Speaker 1: and go back and forth about this team as any
21:46
Speaker 1: ting I've ever covered. I think they could be really good,
21:49
Speaker 1: and then I worry about them some other days, and
21:51
Speaker 1: it stayed today. One practice. You walk off the feeling
21:53
Speaker 1: like I'm not sure ever had that feeling before, and
21:55
Speaker 1: now for fifteen twenty years, I covered really good teams
21:59
Speaker 1: and for a the Jaguar that didn't. So I've never
22:04
Speaker 1: really had this thing. I thought last year, boy, they're
22:05
Speaker 1: going to be good. I didn't that. I just wrot
22:08
Speaker 1: my phone bright especially here. I go back and forth,
22:13
Speaker 1: and I just don't know. I just do not know.
22:16
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I can answer it for you.
22:20
Speaker 1: You know, I'd just like to see this franchise over
22:22
Speaker 1: time become like the Ravens have been, like the Steelers
22:26
Speaker 1: are consistent. You know you're going to get that insistent
22:31
Speaker 1: And where does it come from with the quarter right,
22:34
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what the Ravens are gonna
22:35
Speaker 1: do now with Lamar Jackson. But you know, Roethlisberger has
22:38
Speaker 1: been there for a long time, Aaron Rodgers has been
22:40
Speaker 1: there for a long time. And if you get why
22:42
Speaker 1: you have a good feeling right now. Absolutely, if you
22:44
Speaker 1: get consistent quarterback play with Nick Foles this year, I
22:49
Speaker 1: think you're going to be in the hunt in November
22:51
Speaker 1: and December, I will say this, and I see as well.
22:54
Speaker 1: He has looked much better in camp than I anticipated. Yes,
22:58
Speaker 1: and maybe it's because I haven't seen a guy like
23:00
Speaker 1: this in a while. Um. I expected just okay and
23:04
Speaker 1: thought maybe some of the eagle stuff was just flashing
23:08
Speaker 1: in good circumstances. I think he has looked better than
23:10
Speaker 1: I thought he would. If you can't tell this morning,
23:12
Speaker 1: I'm struggling with the highs and the lows. Right the
23:15
Speaker 1: lows on Saturday, I know it's high today, Nick Foles
23:18
Speaker 1: has been this. I want Kim to be the defining
23:22
Speaker 1: personality of this team this year. You know, on defense,
23:25
Speaker 1: you get the highs and the lows, with the emotional guys,
23:27
Speaker 1: you know, the in goock ways and the Jalens. I
23:30
Speaker 1: want Nick fools to be the personality. He's consistent. Just
23:35
Speaker 1: give me the consistency which with with which he has
23:39
Speaker 1: addressed the media with which he has addressed his teammates.
23:42
Speaker 1: You gotta take the highs and lows out of this thing.
23:44
Speaker 1: Fans are upset because they look bad and now they're
23:47
Speaker 1: you know next week if they look good. It's too many.
23:51
Speaker 1: It's preseason relaxing folds. In practice, they would feel better,
23:58
Speaker 1: and then they haven't had a chance. Fresh practice is
24:00
Speaker 1: just open for a short time this year. Let's just
24:03
Speaker 1: wait and see. Even Keel, I just think it's so important.
24:07
Speaker 1: It just feels high and low from Saturday to Monday,
24:09
Speaker 1: and that that does not give me years of doing that.
24:12
Speaker 1: The one thing I know is if you're going up
24:13
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24:16
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24:18
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24:21
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24:24
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24:26
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Speaker 1: The Jaguars are on the practice field right now training camp,
26:23
Speaker 1: preparing for the second preseason game on Thursday against the Eagles,
26:27
Speaker 1: and we talked about how we have a lot of
26:28
Speaker 1: confusion day, especially after Doug's press conference this morning. So
26:31
Speaker 1: we have decided to make a new segment out a
26:33
Speaker 1: bit called I d K. I don't know, I'm confused.
26:37
Speaker 1: Someone give me answers, Brian, Let's start with you. I
26:40
Speaker 1: d K. The tight ends. Yeah, the tight end's room
26:42
Speaker 1: is a bit of a of a confusing mess right now,
26:44
Speaker 1: and most of that is because that guy right there,
26:47
Speaker 1: Josh Oliver, is rehabbing the hamstring and dream we're waiting
26:50
Speaker 1: to find out where he's at. Jeff Swain did not
26:53
Speaker 1: practice on Saturday or Sunday, and we'll find out where
26:58
Speaker 1: he's at. Those are the two guy eyes. Carson Meyer's back.
27:02
Speaker 1: He was a tryout guy. Uh. They signed a guy
27:04
Speaker 1: from from Tampa whose name I don't even really know. Um,
27:09
Speaker 1: they they they've they've got. The room has had more turnover.
27:12
Speaker 1: They had the kid from UCF that got injured. Um,
27:15
Speaker 1: they've had a lot of guys in there. And Ron
27:17
Speaker 1: Middleton is really having to work his tail off to
27:21
Speaker 1: figure it out. Now. We talked in the off season
27:23
Speaker 1: when they signed Nick Foles, the tight end would be
27:25
Speaker 1: a position that would be featured in this offense. John
27:29
Speaker 1: d Philippo likes the tight end. Nick Foles used the
27:33
Speaker 1: tight end. So this is a room that if they
27:37
Speaker 1: get Josh Oliver and Jeff Swam back, it changes everything.
27:41
Speaker 1: But until those two guys are back, all of these guys,
27:44
Speaker 1: even Koyak and O'Shaughnessy, are interchangeable. None of them are
27:48
Speaker 1: frontline starters. Most of them are guys that you would
27:51
Speaker 1: have as your third, and yet you may be going
27:54
Speaker 1: into the season with a bunch of threes trying to
27:56
Speaker 1: play one of two. That room. They need those two
28:00
Speaker 1: guys back. We'll see when they get there. Yeah, I
28:03
Speaker 1: don't know the extent of the Swain injury, hence the title, right.
28:08
Speaker 1: Doug did say in in his press here today, they
28:11
Speaker 1: are trying to get Oliver back by week one. That's there,
28:16
Speaker 1: that's their goal. Swain is a little more concerned than
28:19
Speaker 1: Oliver to me, just because rookies, I anticipated it taking
28:24
Speaker 1: a few weeks for Olliver to get into it. Anyway, uh,
28:27
Speaker 1: Swam being the veteran is the guy that they need
28:29
Speaker 1: to be consistent. Anybody a really good camp. Yeah, so um,
28:34
Speaker 1: you hope that that's not a thing that's going to linger. Yeah.
28:37
Speaker 1: And Denro mentioned this morning how excited he was when
28:39
Speaker 1: they got Josh Oliver and he was having such a
28:41
Speaker 1: great camp. He mentioned that that was the one that
28:43
Speaker 1: he really wanted back with Josh Oliver. Well, and they
28:46
Speaker 1: have said that it might take some time, but it
28:49
Speaker 1: wasn't season ending, so they will get him back. But
28:51
Speaker 1: right now the room is a bit confusing. Yeah, new
28:54
Speaker 1: bodies in and out every week, all right. I d
28:56
Speaker 1: k about the running backs and I say this because
28:59
Speaker 1: I can't help. But back to last year when Leonard
29:01
Speaker 1: Furnette went down for almost most of the season, there
29:03
Speaker 1: was a huge drop off in the running back room. Now,
29:06
Speaker 1: Riquell Arms said has a similar running style to Leonard Fournette.
29:09
Speaker 1: They drafted him at a temple, but he got a
29:11
Speaker 1: concussion on Thursday and you don't know if he's gonna
29:13
Speaker 1: stay healthy. Benning Cunningham was the veteran presence in that room.
29:17
Speaker 1: He was cut. Alfred Blue is also a veteran presence,
29:19
Speaker 1: so that gives me some solidity, but Thomas Rawls is
29:22
Speaker 1: dealing with injuries as well, and I just can't help
29:25
Speaker 1: but go back. If Leonard Fournett cannot stay healthy this
29:29
Speaker 1: entire season, can Riquel Armstead pick up that load and
29:32
Speaker 1: be the solid number two? Or Alfred Blue? Well, that's
29:37
Speaker 1: why Alfred Blues here is to quell your fears by
29:42
Speaker 1: id case. Yeah, I mean, but he's not going to
29:45
Speaker 1: be a Pro Bowl But that's exactly why he's here.
29:48
Speaker 1: If we don't have Leonard, what are we getting from
29:52
Speaker 1: from the rookie. At the time they signed Alfred who,
29:54
Speaker 1: they didn't know who who the rookie would be. But
29:57
Speaker 1: it's exactly why he's here. I liked what I saw
30:00
Speaker 1: from him on on Thursday. On the carries he had,
30:04
Speaker 1: he looked exactly like he did in Houston. He looked
30:06
Speaker 1: like a guy who if there's four yards there, he's
30:08
Speaker 1: gonna get you four yards. He's probably not gonna turn
30:12
Speaker 1: a five yard play into a twenty five yard play,
30:14
Speaker 1: but if you give him the ball, he's gonna get
30:16
Speaker 1: With the players there and so um, as long as
30:20
Speaker 1: he's healthy, I could easily see Blue being the guy
30:23
Speaker 1: who by mid season everybody's going pretty good player. I
30:27
Speaker 1: thought he was. Yeah, So I mean that could be
30:30
Speaker 1: one of those signings. He's a veteran, savvy NFL professional
30:34
Speaker 1: running back. You can't go to his stats against the
30:36
Speaker 1: Jaguars and and say he beat the Jaguars or burned
30:39
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. But you can go to a couple of runs,
30:42
Speaker 1: a couple of plays a third and three where he
30:44
Speaker 1: gets sixteen yards or catches a swink pass out of
30:47
Speaker 1: the back though that are memorable from his time with
30:49
Speaker 1: the Texans. He was the Jaguars exactly. That's what you're getting.
30:52
Speaker 1: I was excited watching Roquell armstead Um before the concussion.
30:58
Speaker 1: Now you don't know. Those are very difficult to figure
31:01
Speaker 1: out as well. Um, he's raw right the third and one,
31:06
Speaker 1: but he's not scared. No, it's hard. No, he does
31:09
Speaker 1: the third and one where he should have just followed
31:11
Speaker 1: the tight end and gotten the first down. He tried
31:12
Speaker 1: to cut back. When I say he's raw, he thinks
31:16
Speaker 1: he can do here what he did at Temple. You can't. Yeah,
31:20
Speaker 1: that's coaching, right, They'll get him there. Terry Robiski is
31:23
Speaker 1: a veteran coach. He'll get him there. As long as
31:25
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a lingering concussion problem this year and
31:28
Speaker 1: can stay on the field, I think you've got depth there.
31:31
Speaker 1: I think you've got something you can rely on. Remember
31:33
Speaker 1: last year before the draft, I kept pounding the table.
31:35
Speaker 1: You need a guy that runs like Burnet so that
31:38
Speaker 1: you don't lose your personality, and they didn't have it
31:41
Speaker 1: when Chris Ivory left. That was gone. Kid runs like
31:44
Speaker 1: for net. Now they've got guys that run like for net. Good.
31:47
Speaker 1: You need that, that's your personality. The mistake you pointed
31:49
Speaker 1: out is the easiest mistake to correct in the NFL
31:52
Speaker 1: with it running back, and that's purely like you said,
31:55
Speaker 1: it's a faster game at this level. There are certain
31:59
Speaker 1: cuts he can't make. Uh. It's a trust thing. Is
32:03
Speaker 1: a couple of things we saw with Armstead where when
32:05
Speaker 1: he sees a hole, the legs go high and he's in.
32:07
Speaker 1: He reminded me of a lot of those Denver Broncos
32:09
Speaker 1: running backs. It was one cut and go down hill
32:12
Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. It's a trust factor. The coaches
32:15
Speaker 1: John d Philippo, Terry Robiski, Doug Marone have to trust
32:19
Speaker 1: he's going to do what they tell him. To do,
32:21
Speaker 1: and then he has to trust that the hole is
32:23
Speaker 1: going to be there and do it and not try
32:25
Speaker 1: to be Fred Taylor. Bounce it out and go eight.
32:28
Speaker 1: Just get the yard. That's all we need, right, get
32:29
Speaker 1: the first town. All right, John, you are the biggest
32:32
Speaker 1: I Yet I have no idea what's going with the
32:35
Speaker 1: offensive line, and um it's not really their fault necessarily,
32:40
Speaker 1: but we've discussed Cam Robinson ad nauseum. I don't know
32:45
Speaker 1: what it's going to be when he gets back. I
32:47
Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to be back by week one,
32:50
Speaker 1: and then if he's not, I don't really know who
32:53
Speaker 1: the guy is behind him. I like the way that
32:55
Speaker 1: Josh Wells played when he's been healthy, but he hasn't
32:59
Speaker 1: been healthy enough. Centrica boy clean, you know all of
33:02
Speaker 1: that stuff with left tackle. Here we are again with
33:05
Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell. I thought last year he didn't really get
33:09
Speaker 1: a fair shake from some people in during the season
33:12
Speaker 1: because he had lingering stuff all season. When now he's
33:15
Speaker 1: got a training camp deal and he's out for two days.
33:17
Speaker 1: So what are we going to get from that? What
33:19
Speaker 1: is that combination of Norwell and Lender when they're healthy,
33:22
Speaker 1: when they signed those guys to the big contracts. You thought, Okay,
33:26
Speaker 1: they're gonna be dominant in that area, maybe because of injuries,
33:29
Speaker 1: maybe because of whatever. I've never seen dominance out of
33:32
Speaker 1: that duo, and and I've seen good, but you haven't
33:37
Speaker 1: seen what that. Now you move over to the right
33:40
Speaker 1: to the right guard spot A j can is he
33:44
Speaker 1: gonna start? Is it gonna be Will Richardson? Is it
33:46
Speaker 1: gonna be Brandon Thomas? And then you've got uncertainty over
33:49
Speaker 1: the right tackle because John Taylor's hurt. I feel I
33:51
Speaker 1: don't think you have uncertainty there. But we haven't seen it.
33:54
Speaker 1: Well not you've seen it on the practice field, and
33:56
Speaker 1: Doug Maron said last y, d K, you don't know
33:59
Speaker 1: because he hadn't seen I saw it on the practice field.
34:02
Speaker 1: And Doug said last week in the production meeting for
34:04
Speaker 1: the TV broadcast that those reps, he's going as valuable
34:08
Speaker 1: as I think he's your best offensive lineman. I think
34:10
Speaker 1: Well Richardson is going to be your right guard. Linda
34:12
Speaker 1: concerns me only that he's missed twelve starts the last
34:14
Speaker 1: two years, and he's had trouble with injuries over the
34:16
Speaker 1: course of his career. Nor Well I don't know what
34:19
Speaker 1: to make of The left tackle situation is obviously there.
34:22
Speaker 1: Now they've got some answers, but how long do the
34:25
Speaker 1: centric wayhee Josh Wells. You know they've got to kind
34:28
Speaker 1: of sort this out. All this is there is hope.
34:31
Speaker 1: It's not like you And if Richardson's taking Can's job,
34:36
Speaker 1: Can can be a swing to either side, Right, can
34:39
Speaker 1: play center. He's a Tyler shadlet um and you've got
34:43
Speaker 1: another Tyler shadolet So you've got some options there. Here's
34:46
Speaker 1: the one thing. I go back to what I said, calm,
34:49
Speaker 1: take a deep breath. There's still a month a month
34:52
Speaker 1: before you have to play a game a month. Here's
34:54
Speaker 1: the thing about the offensive line that does give you hope. Um.
34:59
Speaker 1: It's easy to forget because has been so many storylines
35:01
Speaker 1: around here the last couple of years. You had this
35:04
Speaker 1: exact feeling about the offensive line In two thousand seventeen
35:06
Speaker 1: in preseason. Remember in that last preseason game, if memory serves,
35:11
Speaker 1: they played guys into the fourth preseason game trying to
35:14
Speaker 1: find starters, and and they led the league in rushing.
35:18
Speaker 1: Right now, I don't think it was a dominant offensive
35:20
Speaker 1: line that year, but it was sure good enough to
35:23
Speaker 1: set a franchise record for a few of sex and
35:26
Speaker 1: lead league in rushing. So it's not like you can't
35:28
Speaker 1: get from here to there, but they still have to
35:30
Speaker 1: get from here today. Well, you have two young tackles
35:32
Speaker 1: a third if you count Richardson, who's gonna play guard
35:35
Speaker 1: for you. You've got pieces in place, and you've got
35:37
Speaker 1: solid backup guys who can play in short first guys
35:41
Speaker 1: like Wells shot like, you've got guys, but w d K,
35:45
Speaker 1: we don't know. You have a month, so nobody needs
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Speaker 1: just remember the time. All right, let's start this ozone
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Speaker 1: with someone who's just trying to win lunch. So much
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Speaker 1: for the whole winning lunch philosophy. Now it looks like
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Speaker 1: we're trying to avoid guys choking on sandwiches. We've got
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Speaker 1: to hope our starters don't go down because the cupboard
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Speaker 1: looks empty. And that's the story with thirty one teams.
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Speaker 1: There's um if you're judging any NFL team on and
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Speaker 1: this isn't accurate, but numbers thirty one through the bottom
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Speaker 1: of the roster, and that's not quite what it was.
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Speaker 1: There are better players, isn't it. But any team that
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Speaker 1: played that number, uh, but have a very similar result.
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Speaker 1: And I'm kind of with you, Brian. Defense held the
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Speaker 1: Ravens to five field and the one touchdown dry they
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Speaker 1: give up I think had two penalties on it. It
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Speaker 1: was um right, don't fret that that much. If the
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Speaker 1: front line guys on this team, where the front line
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Speaker 1: guys are, say there's fifteen, if thirteen of those guys
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Speaker 1: including Folds and Klaias and Jalen, maybe to the end
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Speaker 1: of the season, then I think this team is going
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Speaker 1: to have a shot and be in thirteen of its
39:12
Speaker 1: sixteen game being the conversation, and if things go right, wins,
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Speaker 1: and I think they're fine on that front. But I
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Speaker 1: think I've already said I fundamentally disagree with with Jaden
39:22
Speaker 1: from Okinawa's premis that the cover is bear. I think
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Speaker 1: there's receiver running back. I mean, you could point out
39:31
Speaker 1: there may be a lack of depth, right, but there's
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Speaker 1: plenty of talent around there. If you lose your starters,
39:40
Speaker 1: I just know you're not winning. There's no depth in
39:43
Speaker 1: The last deep team that I remember in the NFL
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Speaker 1: was Dallas Cowboys, who lost everyone the next year when
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Speaker 1: free agency became the norm. You know, the last quarterback
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Speaker 1: depth I remember was Joe Montana and Steve Young, Right,
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Speaker 1: I mean maybe Carson Wentz and Nick Poles. Okay, but
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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. Depth does and exist in the free
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Speaker 1: agent era. That's the way it was designed, players to
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Speaker 1: go to other places. The one they remember about preseason
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Speaker 1: two is if there are two or three guys on
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Speaker 1: the field who aren't going to make the team on
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Speaker 1: a given unit, that will get exposed and make everybody
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Speaker 1: look bad, So I'm keep it in perspective. It is
40:22
Speaker 1: such a team game that if you're playing with two
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman that you know aren't gonna be on the
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Speaker 1: roster and you're trying and evaluate him and they give
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Speaker 1: up sex and get you beat, then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: it looks. It makes everybody look bad, even guys who
40:34
Speaker 1: are there who aren't at that level. I'll give you
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Speaker 1: one more guy watching the one on one pass rush
40:40
Speaker 1: drills in Baltimore against the Ravens. Daytone Jones, former first
40:44
Speaker 1: round pick, and he's bounced around the Vikings, the Lions,
40:47
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Niners. He's been around a little bit,
40:50
Speaker 1: but he's back with Dom Capers, who drafted him and
40:52
Speaker 1: knows what he does well. Well, that's depth at big
40:54
Speaker 1: end me because Daven Brian didn't win the job last year.
40:58
Speaker 1: And you're not asking Daytone Jones come on and be
41:00
Speaker 1: Calais Campbell right. He can't. It's not what he is,
41:03
Speaker 1: but he represents depth. If he can play ten snaps
41:08
Speaker 1: right like he played against the raven push the pocket,
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Speaker 1: you have to collapse it, push play well for ten
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Speaker 1: snaps a game that is depth. And he's a guy
41:17
Speaker 1: if he's playing with ten other starters, it's death. It's fine. Well,
41:21
Speaker 1: he's a nice edition to why. I think the defensive
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Speaker 1: line is deeper than it's been around here in a while.
41:26
Speaker 1: I think you've got some jade online. Yeah that's fair.
41:32
Speaker 1: So what's your mail bag breaking out Thursday night? Yea, yeah,
41:34
Speaker 1: I can tell. Let's go upon a Vedra beach John
41:37
Speaker 1: my simple analysis of Thursday night's game, The Jags backup
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Speaker 1: quarterback is currently not on the roster. Police, he cannot
41:44
Speaker 1: be on the roster. Go Jack's Well. There was a
41:47
Speaker 1: lot of answer for Gardner Minshew and I get it
41:49
Speaker 1: because the first team or whatever team that was, it
41:53
Speaker 1: was playing offensive the nights. That look good. Um, I
41:57
Speaker 1: think we covered this as well. Minshoe is not a
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Speaker 1: guy who's going to come in and carry ten guys
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Speaker 1: who are not as good as he is. I think
42:08
Speaker 1: the question will remain what can he do if he's
42:12
Speaker 1: playing with the starting unit, if he's playing with a
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Speaker 1: first team game plan, if he's got his receivers an
42:17
Speaker 1: offensive line, they can protect him. I don't think he's
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Speaker 1: going to be a guy who can drop back and
42:24
Speaker 1: make the eighteen yard out when that's the thread has
42:28
Speaker 1: to be made. But can he function within a game
42:32
Speaker 1: plan set up better than say, Cody Kesler did last year.
42:35
Speaker 1: I was just about to bring that name up because
42:36
Speaker 1: we're going to see him on Thursday night for Philadelphia.
42:39
Speaker 1: That's the That's what you want is a guy who
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Speaker 1: can carry for a couple of games and get you
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Speaker 1: through with the tools he has around him. Cody Kesler
42:48
Speaker 1: was the backup quarterback year last year. Now the Eagles
42:53
Speaker 1: are playing with him as their backup because Nate Sudfeld
42:57
Speaker 1: broke his risk, right, Cody Kesler went to the Eagles
43:00
Speaker 1: to be the third quarterback. That's the story in Philadelphia
43:02
Speaker 1: this morning, that the third guy is going to have
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Speaker 1: to play, So find me a backup quarterback in the league.
43:10
Speaker 1: They had an abundance of riches in Philadelphia last year
43:13
Speaker 1: when they had Nick Foles, but guess what they couldn't
43:16
Speaker 1: do keep him exactly? Might you be better if you
43:20
Speaker 1: had Chad Henny? Yeah, but it'd cost you five million bucks. Right,
43:26
Speaker 1: it's the backup quarterback. If you lose your starter, your
43:31
Speaker 1: chances to be a contender take a precipitous nose time. However,
43:37
Speaker 1: as I said in quick thought, they must have a
43:39
Speaker 1: plan of how they can be effective with him, and
43:42
Speaker 1: if every other starter is healthy and he has to
43:44
Speaker 1: play a couple of games for you, they probably have
43:47
Speaker 1: a plan an offensive scheme that will allow them to
43:50
Speaker 1: have a chance. Well, that's what your backup quarterback is
43:53
Speaker 1: supposed to be. No more, Steve Young. You don't have
43:56
Speaker 1: that guy anymore. You gotta go and find a guy
43:59
Speaker 1: and develop a guy. Minshew looks like the guy that
44:01
Speaker 1: you hope to develop into a long term back. All right,
44:04
Speaker 1: let's wrap it up with Jim from Jacksonville. I didn't
44:07
Speaker 1: enjoy watching our first preseason game, but I understand the
44:11
Speaker 1: reason for the decision. What should we expect from the
44:13
Speaker 1: next few preseason games? How much will we see our starters? Well,
44:18
Speaker 1: I think that's more of the same. I am more
44:22
Speaker 1: the same for week two. I think the question mark
44:24
Speaker 1: is a week three do is the desire? That's an
44:28
Speaker 1: eight and these coaches to have a dress rehearsal game,
44:31
Speaker 1: which that goes back from the beginning of time in
44:33
Speaker 1: this league practically to where you do things a certain
44:37
Speaker 1: way Week three and play guys week four is obviously
44:40
Speaker 1: not complain anybody, So I would think I'm leaning more
44:44
Speaker 1: and more toward toward Week two being very much the same.
44:48
Speaker 1: But I don't know is week three. The Rams last
44:51
Speaker 1: year did not play a single starter in the preseason. Yeah,
44:55
Speaker 1: they had been played there at first. They had made
44:58
Speaker 1: up to the playoffs the week the year before with
45:01
Speaker 1: much that same offense. So there's a little bit more
45:03
Speaker 1: of a trust. That's why I wonder if you didn't
45:05
Speaker 1: do it at least once. I'm going bigger picture than
45:07
Speaker 1: just that. I'm saying that we we are right now
45:09
Speaker 1: in the in the middle of the fundamental shift of question.
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Speaker 1: It is happening right now. There's the push for the
45:17
Speaker 1: a team game schedule. I don't know whether that happens
45:19
Speaker 1: or not, But what I do know is is that
45:22
Speaker 1: two preseason games seems to be imminent to one that
45:27
Speaker 1: you'll play your starters and one that you won't. We
45:29
Speaker 1: are in the midst of it. I'll say this. The
45:32
Speaker 1: anxiety that was felt in this building on Saturday about
45:35
Speaker 1: the Jaguars injury report, and there isn't even an injury
45:38
Speaker 1: report injury situation would tell me that we're going to
45:41
Speaker 1: see more of the same. Because Doug has, using his
45:45
Speaker 1: own words, change his philosophy He's gone hard in the
45:49
Speaker 1: paint with his philosophy and you can't change that. Now.
45:52
Speaker 1: He is working to get his team ready for the
45:53
Speaker 1: regular season, and I understand that. I get it. If
45:57
Speaker 1: I were him, I would be trying to do the
45:59
Speaker 1: exact same thing. The question is do they need anytime? Yeah,
46:04
Speaker 1: and that's why I think week three you'll be intrigued.
46:06
Speaker 1: But Doug has made it known. The philosophy is what
46:08
Speaker 1: it's going to be. So he can't go back on
46:09
Speaker 1: his word now. He's his whole off season was geared
46:12
Speaker 1: towards this philosophy. You can't now go well, wait, hold on,
46:14
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna play Now I'm gonna change it. Yeah,
46:16
Speaker 1: that's not what that's for. He'll regret that too. Go
46:20
Speaker 1: with the philosophy that you've got. It worked for the Rams.
46:23
Speaker 1: You know, you're seeing other teams, and it makes sense.
46:25
Speaker 1: Other teams are sitting guys. You won't see a lot
46:28
Speaker 1: of Eagles either, just a little bit maybe. Alright, stay tuned.
46:32
Speaker 1: After practice, quarterback Nick Foles will be speaking to the media.
46:35
Speaker 1: We'll have that live on Jaguars dot Com. We'll be
46:38
Speaker 1: back Wednesday morning for the next Jaguars Drive Time. See
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Speaker 1: you then