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- 0:13It is the third hour of the morning show with Preston Scott. I am
- 0:17literally turning the page on the radio program Grant Allen over there in Studio one.
- 0:25Am here in Studio one B, and I am joined by Salt News
- 0:30of the James Madison Institute, Vice President of Policy. But more importantly,
- 0:34he is our our governmental guru. He is the sense of all things legislative.
- 0:42How are you? I'm doing great. How are you sir? You
- 0:44were delayed one week by jury jury duty, Yes, indeed, and you
- 0:48didn't even get to serve. You just had to go through the hoop jump.
- 0:52Yeah. I got picked into a pool, sat in the gallery for
- 0:55a couple of hours as they did what did you even get to answer any
- 0:58questions? Yeah? They raise hand questions. But then they had a group
- 1:03of folks in the box and so it was a jury of only six with
- 1:07two alternates. And so the kind of case wasn't I don't know if I'm
- 1:11at liberty, I guess I could say it was a sexual battery on a
- 1:15minor. Yeah it was. It was a rough one. Yeah. Well
- 1:19but you didn't you didn't get chosen. Didn't didn't get chosen. So you've
- 1:23had a week now to kind of digest everything. Um, well, we'll
- 1:27have time to go through some of these bills in depth in the coming months,
- 1:32as well as talk about things that maybe ought to be on the radar
- 1:36of the legislature come fall for committee weeks. But as you look at this
- 1:40session, what stands out the most to you from a legislative perspective. Gosh,
- 1:45I would stipulate, and we've got a piece in town Hall, the
- 1:49media publication that calls this the single most transformational legislative session in a hundred years
- 1:57in any state. So to answer the question, yeah, to answer the
- 2:01question, I think the totality of what this legislature accomplished in sixty days is
- 2:08unlike anything that we, our partners are coalition members across the country have ever
- 2:15seen in any state in the last century. Why. It's a great question,
- 2:21and I think there's two things to this. There's a why and a
- 2:23how. Okay, So the why is you had voters sending not a Republican
- 2:30majority, but a Republican supermajority to both chambers. So the traditional roadblocks on
- 2:36some of the more assertive or aggressive conservative policies, which would either get extremely
- 2:43watered down or just hit a roadblock in one chamber or another were lifted.
- 2:49So with twenty eight Republicans in the Florida State Senate, you have the ability
- 2:55to lose six or seven and still get a bill passed. Same holds crew
- 3:02in the House, you had eighty five down to eighty four Republicans, you
- 3:07could afford to lose some of those center moderate Republicans from South Florida districts or
- 3:14other parts of the state where they were representing a center to in some cases
- 3:20center left constituency. Those things put, you know, kind of put aside
- 3:24and allowed this legislature to just run the table on conservative policy such as such
- 3:30as HB one, universal school choice for every single one of Florida's three point
- 3:37something million students, sweeping tort reform, permitless carry of firearms. Now that's
- 3:43an incremental one, but permitless carry was not even thought of. Let me
- 3:46just ask you on tort reform. Yeah, a little more meat on the
- 3:52bone, a good bit of meat on the bone, or a lot of
- 3:54meat still left on the bone on that one. Oh, very little meat
- 3:59on the bone, very little. That bill was a unheard of in a
- 4:05year a year ago, prior. Okay, yeah, without question, the
- 4:11anti ESG package, full paycheck protection for public sector employees, the Teacher's Bill
- 4:16of Rights, rooting out diversity, equity, inclusion from the state university system,
- 4:20rooting in stock. Do you believe it's rooted out? It is getting
- 4:26rooted out because I think, like the Parental Bill of Rights in general,
- 4:29there needed to be and there still needs to be mechanisms to enforce it.
- 4:33And I feel the same thing about that, absolutely. But the legislature's role
- 4:39is to create the glide path. Okay, it is the job of regulators
- 4:44and the governors and over and all of that charter school funding, allowing the
- 4:50classic learning tests, were bright futures and state university admissions, banning Central Bank
- 4:56digital currency, social media education for kids, a backdown on aiding and employing
- 5:00illegal immigrants, broadband expansion. I hear the music, and my list is,
- 5:06oh, I know, And that's why we're going to continue to go
- 5:09through this list. Let me just ask you. Yep. You might have
- 5:12heard my discussion Simon Hankinson from the Heritage Foundation about the role employers play.
- 5:16Correct, Are we talking about some serious crackdown on employers hiring illegals. Yes,
- 5:21e verify at the twenty five employee or more level is a big crackdown.
- 5:28Yes, we could go to one employer more. But politics and policy
- 5:33are the art of the possible, So this is this is a good move.
- 5:38In the morning show at Preston Scott By News Radio one hundred point seven
- 5:42WFLA, he's vice president of policy with the James Madison Institute, and our
- 5:49guests sound news with us, we're talking about the legislative wins and how remarkable
- 5:57transformational the twenty twenty three session was Your list continues, Yeah, the list
- 6:02continues. I mean we left off at the break at I think it was
- 6:06broadband expansion, and it's important to note that the legislature's path on this was
- 6:13to do so without increasing or incentivizing government regulations or government ownership of broadband network.
- 6:20So that's a big win. An additional telemedicine expansion protecting physicians who have
- 6:27religious objections to some medical procedures. A massive affordable housing package that includes a
- 6:33preemption on rent control at the local level. How does that work at the
- 6:38local level. So a local developer who might want to build a new development
- 6:45in an area of a county can if they allocate a certain percentage depending on
- 6:51the size of the development to houses, and the building of houses that fall
- 6:57a certain level of affordability below the median level can get some tax incentives on
- 7:03that. So the tax incentives only happen if they build houses that are less
- 7:10expensive than or workforce housing needs in those communities. Okay, preempting living wage
- 7:15ordinances. This is a big deal because you have these counties that are saying,
- 7:19if you want to operate a business and contract with our municipality, you
- 7:26have to pay your workers twenty five thirty dollars an hour. That's gone away.
- 7:30Abortion ban at six weeks one of the more contentious ones. Banning gender
- 7:33quote unquote care for minors, gender transitions, and things like that. Public
- 7:39restroom facilities according to sex at birth. Now, does that mean that,
- 7:43for example, Leon County is one that has allowed people to use whatever bathroom
- 7:47they want, They're going to have to change public facilities. They will have
- 7:51to change or have single use facilities. An expansion of the parents' rights in
- 7:57education film prevention of compelled speech on university campuses. You cannot be required to
- 8:03sign an oath of some sort to get a job on campus to teach to
- 8:09be a speaker on that campus. That is a big deal as well.
- 8:13No TikTok on government devices. The Data Privacy Bill had passed on the last
- 8:18day, and while it's certainly not a perfect bill from the standpoint of small
- 8:22businesses, it has a lot of good in their school board term limits to
- 8:26eight years, additional financial disclosure requirements for local elected officials. They're going to
- 8:31be at the state level of requirements for financial disclosure, further election security transparency,
- 8:39and reforms to pharmacy benefit managers. The list is just insane. Banning
- 8:43ownership of land near secure facilities by Chinese nationals just enough. That's one that
- 8:50I think there's still meet up. There's still there's still a lot of meat
- 8:52on the bone. A great first step. There no driving golf carts without
- 8:58a license anymore. You know one I followed, not that my kids drive
- 9:01golf carts. I don't even own one. Changes to the criminal justice system
- 9:05child rape and non unanimous capital verdicts, so the death penalty can be opposed
- 9:09on child rapists, which is going to go to the Supreme Court because it
- 9:13counters a existing Supreme Court presidency reform to permanent alimony, a permanent ban on
- 9:20mask and vaccine mandates including private businesses, elimination of enterprise full orda, and
- 9:26expansion of Kidcare, which is a safety net insurance program for children in the
- 9:31state. I mean that list is undisputed. There is nothing like it in
- 9:39this country at a state legislative chamber session, and we would argue one hundred
- 9:45years twenty one minutes after the our sald news oh JMI with us the list
- 9:52of wins for conservatism, for doing things the right way, so volumeous.
- 10:01It took a segment and a half, and we still didn't get it all
- 10:03in. No, I had skipped over one kind of allowing small businesses,
- 10:09protecting them by allowing them to challenge local ordinances at the county or city level
- 10:15that impact their business by a certain percentage. What brought this up? I'm
- 10:18always fascinated by the things that stimulate some of these bills. Sure, this
- 10:22one was one that last session. It was a priority of then Senate President
- 10:28now Agriculture Commissioner Wilton Simpson, and it didn't make it across the finish line.
- 10:33I didn't hear anything about it until about two thirds of the way through
- 10:39session and it had been filed, it had gotten a little bit attraction,
- 10:43but not very much, and then all of a sudden it picked up steam
- 10:46and went full bore. What are the issues that are going to head to
- 10:50the ballot that voters are going to settle in twenty four? Sure, you've
- 10:52got a couple of good ones. Is it twenty four that they'll vote on
- 10:56it? Okay? Yeah, it's in the presidential cycle, so part of
- 10:58the school board races. So making it such that the school board races,
- 11:05which are already very party driven in the sense like you know who, if
- 11:11you're paying attention, who is the conservative candidate? Who is the more progressive
- 11:13or liberal candidate? That is one where we're now going to attach a party
- 11:18to that to allow the folks who aren't paying as much attention the ability to
- 11:22know kind of where a person stands. So that's got to get a sixty
- 11:26percent threshold. But yeah, does that offer strategic advantages to either side based
- 11:31on the makeup of the community versus a quote nonpartisan race. Yeah, I
- 11:37think in your heavily partisan counties, liberal or a Republican or Democrat, I
- 11:43think it's going to kind of reinforce some of the wins there that that team
- 11:48gets. So that is something where, you know, harder for a Democrat
- 11:54to win in some areas, harder for a Republican win or none other.
- 11:56Yeah, exactly, And I think it'll probably come out in a wall,
- 12:00but voters will know a little bit more than they might otherwise. Another one
- 12:05is upping the threshold on constitutional amendments from sixty percent to sixty six percent two
- 12:11thirds majority. Anything, in my opinion, anything we can do that would
- 12:16make it harder to amend the Constitution. I'm in favor for now. Whether
- 12:20this actually gets to sixty percent, I don't know. It's going to have
- 12:26an uphill climb in my opinions, simply because I think the Left is going
- 12:31to pour a lot of money into it. What about the hunting and fishing
- 12:33rights. Yeah, this is one, you know, it's kind of like
- 12:35a It's definitely a feel good one because I don't know that there's any kind
- 12:39of implication other than it being in the Constitution. I'd be interested to know
- 12:45as a function of this, should it pass, and I would probably expect
- 12:48it to pass whether or not. Regulators then make changes to the laws governing
- 12:54getting a hunting or fishing license, maybe the costs or things along those lines
- 13:00that might enable people to do so more inexpensively. Okay, budget wise,
- 13:05where are we the budget? I mean, we've gotten through two and a
- 13:09half segments and they only have that requirement. But they did pass a one
- 13:13hundred and seventeen billion dollar budget. Now that is a roughly seven point something
- 13:20billion dollars increase over less than half of what California is, less than half
- 13:24of what New York is. Ye, and New York has fewer residents.
- 13:28So the you know, the numbers in the efficiency put Florida at either forty
- 13:35ninth or fiftieth in the amount of budgeting per capita that happens in the state.
- 13:39So a very good, very fiscally conservative budget. A few of the
- 13:43numbers. Forty seven billion for health and Human services, A portion of that
- 13:48is flow through from the federal government from DC for medicaid in their portion.
- 13:54Twenty six point eight billion for K twelve, which is a more than two
- 13:58billion dollars increase, which this one includes what the governor is starting to call
- 14:03a categorical it's a line item for teacher pay increases separate and apart from the
- 14:07main education bill, and that's an important thing because of what was transpiring with
- 14:13the teachers unions in prior sessions. Twenty one billion for transportation, a little
- 14:18more than eleven billion for agriculture, six point seven billion for criminal justice,
- 14:22and five billion for the Department of Environmental Protection. It includes a five percent
- 14:28bump for state worker pay, another ninety six million for agency targeted raises,
- 14:33a billion three in tax cuts, and eleven billion set aside in reserves,
- 14:39which is just phenomenal considering the fact that we do not have an income tax.
- 14:43The large kind of portion of our revenue comes from sales and use taxes,
- 14:48a lot of tourism, and we've got an economy that produces eleven billion
- 14:52dollars to be able to set aside in reserve. Just another reason to support
- 14:58a consumption tax over a general income tax. Oh yeah, absolutely, And
- 15:05I thought you were going to go with the property tax bit on that that
- 15:09will upcome another day. Yeah, yeah, And I'm philosophically, I'm with
- 15:13you. The way it works out and how to practically enact that is just
- 15:18a bit of a challenge, But I think there is something that can be
- 15:24said for fiscal conservatism at the state level produces exponentially more value than what progressive
- 15:33leftism does at the state level. If you look at states like New York
- 15:39and Illinois, we get far more for our money governing and far more for
- 15:43our economy and our economic output than anything that you could you could put up
- 15:48from the left. This is the Morning Show with Preston Scott's. Yeah,
- 15:54I'm Preston Scott. That's Grant Allen, and this is sal News with the
- 15:58James Madison Institute my guest. And so who lost? What didn't make the
- 16:03cut? Oh? What lost? And who lost? Our different questions?
- 16:07Okay, fair enough, what didn't make the cut? What didn't make the
- 16:10cut? What lost? A very little? There was not a whole lot.
- 16:12And when I looked at the percentages of the bills that went through,
- 16:17it was like eighteen hundred and eighteen hundred and seventy three bills were filed and
- 16:22three hundred and fifty six made it across the finish line. Now, ordinarily
- 16:26a traditional session will have around three thousand bills, so the batting average was
- 16:30much higher this session than others. So not a whole lot didn't make it.
- 16:36That was substantive is that because going into it, there's kind of an
- 16:40understanding. Okay, the GOP's got the supermajority, and they kind of know
- 16:45going in what's gonna get entertained and what's not. Yeah. That, plus,
- 16:48I think they recognize that there was a lot of oxygen that had to
- 16:53be spent on big bills, and so a number of these other smaller bills
- 17:00just either got rolled into a bigger package or just didn't get filed. And
- 17:03I think it's important to note that big bills can be defined a couple of
- 17:07ways. It can be attention getters that might be good for political campaign but
- 17:11also bills that are very consequential. And I would argue that we have very
- 17:17consequential bills that have been passed that, oh, by the way, will
- 17:21provide some fodder. Yeah. Absolutely. And to give you an example of
- 17:23data Privacy bill, it didn't get a whole lot of press. It wasn't
- 17:27contentious in the normal stretch, It was not a social issue that you'd see
- 17:33kind of a lot of ink being poured out on because it's abortion or trans
- 17:38issues and things like that. But yet it is incredibly consequential. It involves
- 17:42a whole lot of work to get the policy as right as it could be,
- 17:45to get passage and things along those lines. But so what didn't make
- 17:49it the defamation reform that we had kind of talked about a number of had
- 17:55my remarks ready, you had your two minutes of testimony ready to go,
- 17:59and the temporarily postponed. They heard I was coming down there and they said
- 18:03we will table the bill versus letting him to dick. They pulled it immediately
- 18:07upon you entering the committee room. That's almost literal. It really did happen
- 18:12that way. That's you sat down and the chair said we are temporarily postponing
- 18:18the following bills, and yours was one of them. Thank you very much.
- 18:21Yeah, so that didn't make it. I have a feeling that they're
- 18:23going to try to retool this, and I don't know if they'll be able
- 18:26to retool it in a way that makes conservatives happy in the media especially,
- 18:30But I think this is going to come back driving too slow in the left
- 18:34lane. I was really upset that this one did not make the cut.
- 18:37But were you Yeah, Yeah, I gotta let foot my friend. Yeah,
- 18:41but we don't need a law. Let just do the right. Yeah,
- 18:44just get over, get and moved. Get get over. The bill
- 18:48on vacation reynals, it got way down in negotiation between a couple of committees.
- 18:52This is one to your point about it's not going to get a lot
- 18:56of press, but it is very consequential because what you're trying to do,
- 19:00or what they're trying to do, is balanced property rights. The property rights
- 19:04of an individual who has a home and who might want to rent it out,
- 19:08versus the property right of a neighbor who doesn't want you know, who
- 19:14moved into a neighborhood and may not you know, want their nighttime you know
- 19:18activities, you know, kind of all of the loudness and all the cars
- 19:25and everything along those lines, and who didn't sign up for a tourism spot
- 19:29in their neighborhood. So the CFO bill on IRS regulation that got held up,
- 19:33I think if more in the Congress is done with the eighty million dollars
- 19:40and all the IRS agents, you'll see that when you come back. The
- 19:44sorry chip Lamarca removing the restrictions on wine containers. He fought the good fight.
- 19:48The senator, as he called it, the senators a bunch of communists
- 19:52and so you know that was that was his comment. I don't know.
- 19:57It might have been off the record, it was, it was, and
- 20:00jest they try to put it onto an agency bill, but he's been he's
- 20:03been trying for a number of years. I'm with him in that battle.
- 20:07I'd like to buy a five gallon jugo wine myself. Do they not know
- 20:10that that the eighteen to twenty one law for gun purchases is they're going to
- 20:14lose that eventually? Eventually I think they are. But I mean just the
- 20:18Supreme Court is going to just hammer that. Yeah, at this Supreme Court
- 20:22especially, I think once that case or once it's litigated up at that level.
- 20:30Sal Neuzzo with us one more segment before we go to monthly meetings.
- 20:34Ye here in the Morning Show with Preston Scott tomorrow, I'm gonna ask my
- 20:38listeners, okay, not will he or won't he? But should he or
- 20:45should he not? Run for president? Governor Rond de Santas. And I
- 20:48only say that not because he's not a quality candidate. I say that because,
- 20:53in my opinion, Donald Trump is starting to suck the air out of
- 20:57the room. I think, if so, are you asking me the same
- 21:02question. I'm going to ask that question tomorrow, so I figure, why
- 21:04not ask you that today? And I'll tell you this. I think if
- 21:07you were to have asked me that question three weeks ago, I would concur
- 21:11Donald Trump is sucking the oxygen out of the room, and DeSantis he took
- 21:17an unforced error, you know, a little bit here or there. But
- 21:21I see a lot of parallels between twenty eighteen and now, and I think
- 21:27that Donald Trump's ability to suck the oxygen out of the room, particularly this
- 21:33past weekend, was kind of reduced. If you saw what happened in Iowa.
- 21:38They had a very sparse audience for the Trump rally and he canceled it
- 21:45blaming the tornado watch. And then you have the governor in the blue button
- 21:52down with the Khaki's flipping pork chops at the Iowa Festival. And I don't
- 21:57know if this is a turning point, bearing in mind he has not even
- 22:03officially announced his running I think for a candidate who is not actually a candidate
- 22:07yet officially, for him to be within that kind of a distance from the
- 22:12former president, with the level of kind of cult of personality he has,
- 22:18I think I'm on the he should at this point, okay, and it's
- 22:25pretty much a foregone conclusion that he will. I don't think there's any anybody
- 22:29that thinks he won't at that he's not testing the water at this point anymore.
- 22:32No, And in fact, there was a report that he was going
- 22:34to in May announce an exploratory committee, and then that report kind of got
- 22:40retracted or pulled back because they either change their mind or decided in lieu of
- 22:45that that he was going to announce fully. At some point we talked ever
- 22:48so briefly about the fact that you can govern remotely in this day and age
- 22:52the way that you know, much the same way that a traveling president governs
- 22:56remotely. Absolutely, that said, I would, are you on behalf of
- 23:00the governor that governing Florida actively while campaigning is his best campaign Oh? Probably,
- 23:07Yeah. Absolutely. I think when you look at what his strengths are
- 23:11going to be in terms of how he would project his viability for president of
- 23:17the United States, it's going to be his governing of the state of Florida.
- 23:21The policy wins, the stories from the Hurricane Ian recovery, all of
- 23:26those things are going to be his his selling point. What else should we
- 23:33know about the governor's travels. He's beginning to get kind of his I think
- 23:40he would. He's beginning to get his sea legs on a lot of these
- 23:42trips, where in prior ones you'd see him behind a podium with the suit
- 23:48and tie and the boots. Now he's in the genes, he's in Khaki's,
- 23:52he's doing a lot more rope lines, he's he's smiling a lot more,
- 23:57which I mean is something you've got to learn as a as a political
- 24:00candidate. It's a it's a different game in Iowa and in New Hampshire.
- 24:04Um, they're not your constituent shoe, No they are not. They're interviewing
- 24:08you. And if you know anything about the Iowa caucuses, it is it
- 24:12is like a WWE Battle Royale when it happens. So, um, yeah,
- 24:18those are those are some you know, those are the things he's going
- 24:22to learn. And look, we're still a year out, so we're in
- 24:26good shape. And he can now resign or not resign and run. Oh
- 24:30yeah he can. He can run the table as the governor of Florida,
- 24:34go through the entire campaign and up until the election, up until the election.
- 24:41Yeah, and if things don't turn out, he still has a year
- 24:45and a half or two years of of being governor of Florida. Would your
- 24:48analysis be at this point that whoever the Republican nominee is, as long as
- 24:53it's not Donald Trump, can win or only specific one or two including Trump.
- 25:00Do you think Trump can beat Biden? I think Trump can beat Biden.
- 25:04I don't think he will beat Biden. Him beating Biden would require changes
- 25:11to him that I don't think he's capable of. I think Ronda Santis precapable
- 25:15or willing. Willing, Yeah, willing and capable. I think de Santis
- 25:19has the best chance of beating Biden, especially in the three or four swing
- 25:25states that are going to ultimately decide the election. We'll have lots to talk
- 25:29about, it to tons to talk about. As always, thanks for all
- 25:32your work. It's always a pleasure. My friend sal news Oh with us
- 25:34throughout the legislative session. Now with the recap our guests on the Morning Show
- 25:38with Preston Scott