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EP. 114 - The Green Man w/ Headless Giant & Greyhorn Pagans · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What's gonna happen?
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  Speaker 3: What's going on? Everybody?
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  Speaker 4: And welcome back to the Gray Pilled Podcast. Happy Sunday
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  Speaker 4: to everybody, and a good morning in some places, good
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  Speaker 4: evening and others.
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  Speaker 3: I am Jules your host. You got a special show for.
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  Speaker 4: You guys today, got a long away to shove and
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  Speaker 4: been wanting to do this for a while now, you
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  Speaker 4: could say even years. I am joined by a few
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  Speaker 4: guests today. I have Stein here from Grey Horn Pagan's podcast.
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  Speaker 4: We have Nick from The Occult Rejects and also Headless
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  Speaker 4: John from the Occult.
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  Speaker 3: Rejects and Headless's bag. What is it your magic bag?
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  Speaker 5: Well, actually, we had a really interesting email come in
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  Speaker 5: about an actual haunted mail bag that this guy was.
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  Speaker 5: It was great, dude, So yeah, human remains in his
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  Speaker 5: in his in his mail bag that he was delivering
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  Speaker 5: and he didn't realize it until he was checking the
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  Speaker 5: manifest later on. But his uh, his earbuds were glitch
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  Speaker 5: it out. As soon as he would get near this thing,
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  Speaker 5: this whole thing glitched out. So it was it was
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  Speaker 5: kind of funny. It's like he had an actual haunted
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  Speaker 5: mail bag.
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  Speaker 3: So that's terrifying. Guys.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, transplan like the stream, share it, get some people
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  Speaker 4: in here.
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  Speaker 6: Let me show this up.
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  Speaker 4: If you all want to go around and kind of
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  Speaker 4: tell people who you are, what you do, and a
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  Speaker 4: little bit about your show.
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  Speaker 3: Uh please, I'll go first.
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  Speaker 5: I was going to have the trialogues this morning, but
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  Speaker 5: we've rescheduled after five pm CST, and we're gonna get
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  Speaker 5: Ricardo in there, I promise, So just tune in after
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  Speaker 5: five we'll be there. But also you can find my
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  Speaker 5: mail bag show on Tuesdays on YouTube look for the
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  Speaker 5: Headless Giant podcast and all Thursdays right Thursdays, and you
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  Speaker 5: can get my artwork if you email me and go
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  Speaker 5: to Nick's events and you'll find my artwork there as well.
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  Speaker 5: So check that out and definitely get on it. Follow
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  Speaker 5: me on x at Headless Giant podcast or Headless Giant.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, besides the yard, he also sent me
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  Speaker 1: in some pictures of himself wearing a thong autograph.
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  Speaker 6: A good thing he was immunity. He's probably like fuck.
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  Speaker 5: You now, no, no, you'll see those pictures if you
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  Speaker 5: go to the events. So if you want to see
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  Speaker 5: me at a thong, you got to show up. And
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  Speaker 5: also false advertising is fully allowed and you had to
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  Speaker 5: pay to play.
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  Speaker 3: Rat. I know Rat. We invited Rat to come and
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  Speaker 3: join us. He had to work.
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  Speaker 4: I'm guessing the same as for subliminal. It's okay, get
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  Speaker 4: these guys in here soon, Nick Stein.
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  Speaker 6: For us to you.
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  Speaker 3: Stein, it's your first time on Gray pield Man.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it is know about everything. Uh well, yeah Stein,
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  Speaker 2: Stiff Fox. I'm the host of the The Grey Horned
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  Speaker 2: Pagans podcasts. We do everything paganism, Witchcraft's mysticism, a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a cult, alternative, healing, alternative, whatever, it is,
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right on, man, Nick, everyone knows you, but go ahead and.
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  Speaker 6: Nick from the ocul Rejects, it's on a Bitch You
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  Speaker 6: and Rumble YouTube and all major podcasts hosts. We also
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  Speaker 6: have Occult Research Institute dot org and just Real Quick.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah like hellas was mentioning October fourth in Franklin, North
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  Speaker 6: so come check it out. We'll have t shirts, stickers
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  Speaker 6: and Headless's artwork. So yeah, there you go, Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: All right, and yeah, guys, you see Nick here every
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  Speaker 4: Saturday morning for the es Terry book reviews fly.
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  Speaker 3: He Yeah, man, we have a great time. Yesterday was
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  Speaker 3: a banger.
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  Speaker 4: I do you know, any of the conversation afterwards, the
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  Speaker 4: hour long combo we had afterwards.
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  Speaker 3: Man, it's just if only people could uh hear that too.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, but and then he does me the
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  Speaker 4: justice of inviting me on the occult rejects for every
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  Speaker 4: show in which I thank you, sir. But yeah, no,
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  Speaker 4: So we are here today speaking on a subject something
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  Speaker 4: that I've kind of question is maybe one of the
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  Speaker 4: oldest archetypes or entities to ever be written about spoken of.
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  Speaker 4: What's so, what are you guys interpretation of the Green Man?
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  Speaker 4: Because I have a lot of different kind of things
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  Speaker 4: to throw out there, but I'm gonna hear what you
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  Speaker 4: guys have to say.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe I'll go first because it was probably the shorter.
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  Speaker 6: I'm the least educated on the topic. So for me,
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  Speaker 6: from how I look at it, I think it has
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  Speaker 6: to do with something like possibly somebody who has come
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  Speaker 6: back from having a magical experience, you know, or has
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  Speaker 6: that has that has that attainment. I don't know how
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  Speaker 6: to explain it, maybe the whole resurrection back after the
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  Speaker 6: death something like that. And plus I just I just think,
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  Speaker 6: you know, it steeply occulted just real quick too, the
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  Speaker 6: whole reason why I'm even interested in it is because
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  Speaker 6: you know, to go back to Crowley Athlemic stuff, but uh,
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  Speaker 6: that's kind of who Crawley would look at his Pan
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  Speaker 6: like you mentioned his Pan, and he would look at
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  Speaker 6: Pan as being cather and Earth. Which is another reason
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  Speaker 6: why I do wonder if it has to do with
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  Speaker 6: coming back, because if you hit Kathery, you'r avert across
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  Speaker 6: the abyss and then when you're coming back, I don't
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  Speaker 6: know something like that. And I do find it interesting
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  Speaker 6: that we pan, we got panavision pan with sight.
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  Speaker 2: I find that interesting as well.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you for bringing me on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, ye headless what uh what about you?
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  Speaker 5: Well, this is going to be kind of complicated, but
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  Speaker 5: I think it it goes to the heart. It goes
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  Speaker 5: to the heart of what we call a god. Right,
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  Speaker 5: So we don't have a real good definition when it
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  Speaker 5: comes to how we see these things or how they
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  Speaker 5: relate to us. But I think the green Man is
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  Speaker 5: the first attempt to sort of integrate, you know, our
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  Speaker 5: perceptions of these divine experiences with how we see them,
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  Speaker 5: you know, in nature. Right. So if you take the
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  Speaker 5: green Man as as the idea of a spirit, right,
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  Speaker 5: so it has this sort of nature spirit kind of connotation,
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  Speaker 5: and it's coming out of the woods, right. You get
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  Speaker 5: the full interpretation of kind of what they were going
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  Speaker 5: for with pan is is this is the wilderness spirit,
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  Speaker 5: This is the intelligence beyond our understanding coming in and
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  Speaker 5: sort of making itself known to us. And so I
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  Speaker 5: think it's, you know, one of the old again, and
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  Speaker 5: and it symbolizes that wilderness sort of speaking to you
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  Speaker 5: directly as this divine form, something bigger than yourself. So
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  Speaker 5: I think it's it's very important to understand, but I
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  Speaker 5: think very few people really do because it's it's kind
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  Speaker 5: of esoteric. But when you've had those experiences and you
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  Speaker 5: can see it, it's right there, you know.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Stein, what about you, Well, I think it's at
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  Speaker 7: the very least a you know, ancient primordial being.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe even if we're talking, you know, divine masculine,
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  Speaker 2: divine feminine. If Gaya is the divine feminine, divine, earthly feminine,
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  Speaker 2: then perhaps the green Man is the divine, earthly masculine.
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe he is a one of the very first
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  Speaker 2: children of Gaya because he has this physical form if you.
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  Speaker 3: Will, yeah for him.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, you usually see him made of vegetation and full
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  Speaker 4: and foliage also with I had brought this up right
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  Speaker 4: before we started horns sometimes and some people refer to
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  Speaker 4: him as Pan or Sir nunos Uh. But you see
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  Speaker 4: him in every culture almost it's it's almost if he
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  Speaker 4: has to be there, right, like he is this representation
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  Speaker 4: of nature, right. You see him in Egypt as Osiris
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  Speaker 4: and Petah.
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  Speaker 3: You see him as.
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  Speaker 4: Bacchus I believe, and Dionysus sir Nuns like I had said,
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  Speaker 4: and and so yeah, for what that's actually pretty interesting
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  Speaker 4: Stein what you said, Uh, him being one of the
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  Speaker 4: first children of Gayah.
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  Speaker 3: Is there any kind of mythology to that or not?
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  Speaker 2: To my knowledge, It's it's something that I I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I kind of I'll be honest, I put it up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just I just theorized it, you know, since it
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  Speaker 2: is such a an ancient being, and you know Gaya
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  Speaker 2: is you know, the his mother Earth is the mother goddess.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, that's that's why I thought that either
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  Speaker 2: he is the the masculine form of it, or he
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  Speaker 2: could be one, or he could be Yeah, I'm one
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  Speaker 2: of her her very first children. Because you know, gods
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  Speaker 2: and goddesses they still have children. And because he is
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  Speaker 2: so so also ancient, and you know, has has taken
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  Speaker 2: so many forms or you know, the the archetype can
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  Speaker 2: be translated into so many forms. I mean, he's got
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  Speaker 2: to be one of the very first.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's that's something that I was kind of
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  Speaker 4: thinking about because one thing we do see is we
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  Speaker 4: see this agg green Man kind of pushed throughout pop culture.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I first thought of him as is like.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, early early on, at the beginning of time. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how old this world is. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think any of us will ever quite know, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: this this guy was basically created as a manifestation of nature.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, would this have to have been thought up
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  Speaker 4: by a mass consciousness, you know, kind of how aggrigors
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  Speaker 4: are created now, I think, and then later on it
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  Speaker 4: who knows, could manifest physically. Because you also have some
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  Speaker 4: people that would say that this green Man is a
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  Speaker 4: cryptid right from what I've heard, like people who see,
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  Speaker 4: you know, things in the world, woods with antlers, horns,
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  Speaker 4: what what have you. And like I said, that's one
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  Speaker 4: thing when when you go back to pop culture and
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  Speaker 4: I actually saw this movie not too long ago.
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  Speaker 3: We're all familiar with The Green Knight.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yea Dent movie.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that it was like that.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was just about some night until I
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  Speaker 4: went and like watched it. I was like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 4: this is extremely esoteric.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: There's this this this Knight that rides in and he's
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  Speaker 4: made of like trees and you know, leaves and sticks,
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  Speaker 4: and he plays this game during Christmas I believe, where
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  Speaker 4: if someone can chop his head off or something, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, he has to come back a year later
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  Speaker 4: and claim his reward.
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  Speaker 2: No, I believe the story as told in the movie
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  Speaker 2: at least is it's kind of a it's it's a
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  Speaker 2: it's a trial. It's the hero story, of course, and
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  Speaker 2: it is every cut that you you deal to the
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  Speaker 2: Green Knights, the I believe the next the next year
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  Speaker 2: you get that in return. But because Sir Gawayne, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he wanted to, you know, of course, prove himself because
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  Speaker 2: you know one of the Knights of the round Table
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  Speaker 2: definitely one of Arthur's favorites. So he's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go all out. I'm gonna cut his
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  Speaker 2: hat off and not thinking about the the consequence of it,
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  Speaker 2: because you know it's not just eye for a night's
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  Speaker 2: head for a head in this in this case, but
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  Speaker 2: you know that's it's a problem for next year. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Then next year rolls around and he has to go
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  Speaker 2: on this incredible, yeah, like incredible esoteric journey. And I
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  Speaker 2: I still get confused by by the ending, Like I
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  Speaker 2: still don't know whether it actually happens or if it's
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  Speaker 2: all if it's if it's a dream, if it's if
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  Speaker 2: it's something something like that, because like you have the
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  Speaker 2: ending with then like you have what is it like
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  Speaker 2: an alternative ending, but then it goes back to the
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  Speaker 2: ending that it's confusing, and I still don't know what
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  Speaker 2: the actual ending is. But I mean, one thing I
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  Speaker 2: know is that Sargain he should have thought.
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  Speaker 3: Twice definitely not.
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  Speaker 5: And it's the classic idea of the the Hubris and
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  Speaker 5: the hero's journey. Right, So his first thought was I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna show everybody in court how much of a badass
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  Speaker 5: I am. And so he chops this guy's head off
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  Speaker 5: clean one shot, and then he picks his head back
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  Speaker 5: up and says see you in a year, and then
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  Speaker 5: walks out. Yeah, at that point he knew that he
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  Speaker 5: had stepped into a world beyond all understanding, right, So
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  Speaker 5: the whole idea there was was that somehow he stepped
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  Speaker 5: into a completely other world. And that's sort of what
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  Speaker 5: the green Man represents is sort of like walking over
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  Speaker 5: this threshold into something that you don't fully understand and
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  Speaker 5: you can never fully understand. And in terms of the
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  Speaker 5: definition of God, I think it would be, you know,
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  Speaker 5: to apply to all forms of gods, right, it would
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  Speaker 5: be a personification of a sphere of influence or circle
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  Speaker 5: of influence. So if you think about the green Man
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  Speaker 5: as being this god, right, it would be all the
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  Speaker 5: places you don't see, you know, this is all the
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  Speaker 5: places behind the veil. So it's like the first vision
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  Speaker 5: of that would be seeing faces in the leaves, right,
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  Speaker 5: that first what's that disorder? They call it? Where, Yes, paradola,
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  Speaker 5: it's the first paradolia, right, and it's it's a moving
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  Speaker 5: picture of these leaves as it's communicating something.
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  Speaker 4: To you that goes to, Uh, this one guy on YouTube,
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  Speaker 4: he thinks he's catching these big foot on in in
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  Speaker 4: these photos. It may it may be paradolia, but maybe
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  Speaker 4: he's catching these green men in these photos somehow he
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  Speaker 4: has you know, he's may he may be vibrating at
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  Speaker 4: a certain frequency where they feel comfortable enough to reveal
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  Speaker 4: themselves to him.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And also when when you look at things to a
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  Speaker 4: certain lens like a camera, you can see more than
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  Speaker 4: than what meets the eye.
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  Speaker 3: There's also that.
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  Speaker 5: When you reflect the leaves in a symmetry, you're always
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  Speaker 5: going to have faces because you're gonna have these different
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  Speaker 5: spots that come through that are recognizable through that you know,
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  Speaker 5: bifold symmetry. And so the whole idea behind seeing these
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  Speaker 5: faces in the woods wouldn't be that far out of
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  Speaker 5: the ordinary. But at the same time, this allows for illusion. Right,
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  Speaker 5: So this goes into what the definition of magic is,
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  Speaker 5: and I think that the best definition of magic is
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  Speaker 5: an illusion used to influence reality. Where does the illusion start?
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  Speaker 5: Where does it stop? Though, between the between the definition
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  Speaker 5: of God and the definition of magic, you could see
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  Speaker 5: how things can get really confusing really quickly.
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  Speaker 2: So seeing faces in the leaves, seeing faces in the trees,
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  Speaker 2: that would that also be where we get the ens from,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the tree people, tree beard from the Lord
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  Speaker 2: of the Rings, for example, or would they be like
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  Speaker 2: another well, let's say generation of green Man, because they
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  Speaker 2: are kind of just more more green than man in
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  Speaker 2: this case.
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  Speaker 4: Well that's the representation. And and we were going to
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  Speaker 4: speak on this in pop culture, you seem to find
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  Speaker 4: this green man in more than just you know, being
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  Speaker 4: you know, in nature. He Shrek, the Grinch, let's see
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  Speaker 4: the mask. I may have a list somewhere, Jolly green Giant,
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  Speaker 4: Jolly green Giant. There you go, Oh, here we go, Kermit, Yoda,
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  Speaker 4: Picklore Pan gumby, Robin Hood Hulk. I mean, dude, it's
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  Speaker 4: it's so common to see it.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, Loki in the Marvel movies.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, yeah, no, if he has a green tent
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  Speaker 4: to him, absolutely, so it's it's fascinating to me to
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  Speaker 4: see that. And uh, it's it's kind of like it's
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  Speaker 4: hidden them playing sight. But then again, they may have
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  Speaker 4: just made the character green, right, But.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. It always has.
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  Speaker 4: It always kind of ties into who they are as
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  Speaker 4: a person, like the if they're like a real ugly
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  Speaker 4: like Shrek in him in the Grinch, you know, like
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  Speaker 4: the real they hate humans, right, like they are real
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  Speaker 4: angry all the time. They have a pet that they
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  Speaker 4: talk to like, I don't know, it's some weird archetype
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  Speaker 4: kind of like the wild Man or something. And I've
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  Speaker 4: seen some comparisons with the wild Man and the green Man,
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  Speaker 4: the wild Man being like an inky doo type of
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  Speaker 4: you know, figure, but the green Man being more a
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  Speaker 4: force of nature. I guess you could say, of the
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  Speaker 4: forest rather than that of animals or something.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I've never really.
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  Speaker 4: Seen many representations of the green Man in animals, have
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  Speaker 4: y'all or am am I completely wrong?
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  Speaker 3: The frog? I guess there's the frog. That's one.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's it's uh, you get that
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  Speaker 4: theme with Osiris and h who's that Egyptian god. I've
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: talked about him for kick right, Yeah, So I don't know.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe there's something to that. I don't know if
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: y'all had anything on that, if there was any symbolism,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: any animal symbolism, maybe I'll be able to find something.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Next week we're actually starting a book on on next
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Saturday show on occult symbolism of animals.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: It's been a while in terms of in terms of Hellenism,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: I think the green Man would fall into the category
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: of rustic gods. And they made the the distinction between
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: the rustic gods and the more urban gods. So they
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: had ariadne Artemis Cairn, Dionysus, Dryads, Hyphestus, Hermes Naiads, which
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: would be the water spirit. It's nips Pan, Priapus, Satyrs, Rhea, Kybell,
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: and Selenas. So a lot of really interesting crossover between
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: these gods and the green men that you mentioned earlier. Right,
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: So i'd say that, you know, jolly green Giant would
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: be definitely representative of sort of like a dryad type spirit,
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: something that's actually feeding you with pieces of himself, right,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: because he's made of vegetable material.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Yea, his his his hair is made of leaves and yeah, dude,
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's it's kind of like they they're
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: spreading the spirit of the green Man through pop culture,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: maybe just to keep it alive because so many people
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: have forgotten anytime.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: You've got these rustic gods, it's all about this self consumption, right.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: So Dionysis he has grapes all over that him, and
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: then he's offering you the grapes his wine. Uh, you've
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: got priapists, you know, the guy with the out of
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: control boner he's always offering fruits and vegetables and stuff.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: You guys haven't heard of Preapis?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: No, please, not familiar with him. Not sure if I
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: want to be.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: This was the Greeks, Dong god. He had a massive Okay, so,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: as you know, the Greeks had this weird hang up
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: with like if you if you've got a big penis,
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: that means you're an idiot, right, and so all of
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: the heroes and gods, right, and so Primpis is a
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: big stupid idiot. So he's got a huge slow and
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: so this guy would measure fruits and vegetables on his
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: massive wiener.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: That's where that started. Jesus, don't don't they do that
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: as art?
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: Now?
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: In that art, that's all of Prempus, right, And so
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: he is ar rusted god and he cannot control his libido.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: The unfortunate part is he's been cursed that whenever he's
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: about to get it on, it goes flaccid, but any
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: other time it's rock hard. So he's the wand of
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: the earth. Yeah, he's a very interesting character when it
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: comes to this stuff, but definitely a green Man type character.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: Who is this Priapis? You know, forlorn kind of god
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: wandering around, and you find a bunch of the intact
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: artwork about preampis from Herculaneum and Pompeii xerox.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: So that's why statues of intelligence.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: Yep, right, and one is directly in verse relationship to
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: the other. So they think a tiny wiener, it's a
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: big brain. A big winer means a small brain up here,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: because I guess that's the way the Greeks were thinking.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, sure, why not?
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: But not only do we see this in pop culture?
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: This is on from what And I'll pull some stuff
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: up on Google just to show.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: That it's everywhere.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can go to your local peer one
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: and buy fucking something for your back porch. Get some
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: green Man on it, you know what I mean? Nick,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: do you We're gonna go ahead and pull up this video?
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: Sure? Yeah, yeah, I'm laughing at and Nick, now, tell
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: tell us where this was this was at? Heh let
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: me lower the volumeble miad. This was at I forgot
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: that it was flying into This was over by the
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: Biniking area, but Binking Library is over by Yale Yale University,
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: by Yale. Interesting, you can hear you kids skateboarding over it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Let the kids skate.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Is that fruit some grapes and apples and stuff you
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: see connecting.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: It's the same face on both sides, right.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so looks slightly different.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say it looks a little different, but.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: If anything, actually it might have looked thinner.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Two faces giving.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: All right, Janie vibes exactly. Janice and Pam.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: We were talking about the three faced guy yesterday and
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: I brought up Janice.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Someone was like, that's two face. So who's the three
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: face god? Hecke Yeah, okay. Heads.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Someone in the chat was like, Hecate has three faces.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, I think you said the confirmed.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, triple gods and triple goddesses are very abundant
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: in polytheism and in any kind of European polytheism, so yeah,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: you could say they have three faces.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: India too, Yeah, He's got a ton of deities with
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: multiple faces and multiple heads.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: There's a green man in India.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Uh Rama Chandra, print Are king Rama Chandra, Prince Rama Chandra.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Some guy he's green. You know they're all blue. He's green.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: So interesting. You got some roses.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Are those roses or those daffodils.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: That's another thing I tried to point out too. You
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: will see those types of designs and those flowers all
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: over everything out there. You even say it on me
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: Sonic buildings and Catholic churches. That's those seeing designs. There's
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: something up with that. I'm all having that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Ship very interesting.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: That wreath is one of the wreaths of victory that
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: you know, Rome would use on their motifs all the time,
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: and you know, around the bottom of it and then
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: all of the fruits and the green man face seems
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: a lot more like what what do you got?
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: Someone was saying three phases of the moon. I got
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: that on my own.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, right, But.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So in Germanic cultures, the moon is a more
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: male figure and the sun is a female figure, a
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: lot like Japanese where they've got a female son Amatrasu
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: and the male moon as well. So Germans and Japanese
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: both have reverse genders for their sun and moon.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and many many nature gods and the well the
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: god that we believe represents nature yurts. It's also where
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: you get you know, yard as from She is the
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: mother of thor of the thunder god. You have the
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: twins frey and Freyer, who are fertility gods. Both link
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: to fertility. Harved's agricultural abundance yurt or near there is
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: god of the sea, winds and maritime endeavors in the
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Netherlands that would be more akin to Nehalennia for example,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and offerings to her are very often fruit for example.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: So yeah, just a lot of a lot of nature
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: and more natural gods. Really, so is this like an exclusive.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Masculine archetype or is there a female green man?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: As I said, you know, you have the Earth, who
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: is the She is female. She is the most direct
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: embodiment of Earth. Freyre is male. Freya gods of love
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: and war. If he can lay him, slay him like that,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: always like that one. They are twins. They're both the
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: divine masculine and the divine feminine, representing fertility, representing you know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: the harvest and Freyer. It's funny, like we were talking
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: about the the giant that one. Frere is also often
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: depicted with a giant schlong because he is the very Yeah,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: he is like the most well known and the most
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: revered fertility god.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Nice, I mean, yeah, And that's one thing you see
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: a lot is uh in this esoteric symbolism is a
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: lot of phallic symbols, right uh. And and an obelisk
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: for for one. I just didn't know if there would
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: be like a specific uh kind of archetype or figure
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: for I guess you could use I don't know now,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: that would be water I was seen by like an
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: undying or a mermaid, a siren.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: In Greek, we've got the dryads, and one of those dryads, well,
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: the most famous of the Dryads would be Daphne, who
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: Apollo was pursuing, and she turned into a holly tree.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: And so the holly wreath, Holly, what is it? What
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: is the wreath that Apollo has? Anyways, he's got this
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: wreath from the tree that Daphne became. And that was
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: always you says, the symbol for victory. And I don't
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: know why I said, Holly, No, it's so the loyal tree.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: And so the the the spirits of the woods were
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: often called these, you know, dryads, and so definitely in
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: the vein of wood, nymphs.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Or things, these are just some kind of elemental spirit,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: right right, yeah, okay, So yeah, I mean when when.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: You look at the lore of the trees.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: It said, I mean you had already brought up tree beard,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: but that like each tree has a certain certain consciousness, right,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: and and it said that if one tree is dying
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: somewhere in the woods, that all the other trees will
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: like send their nutrients to it and like or something.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, probably, I mean Germanic lore. You know, mankind
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: is literally made from two trees, the ash and the
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: elm tree. Okay, and after after rating a rock, the
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: you know, last man, last women that are are left
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: have been hidden, have been hidden in a hollow tree.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Really.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, especially if you want to honor
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Thor for example, you know, that's why I wear the ammor.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: He is very much associated with the oak tree. Thoris,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: you know, the strongest of all the gods, and the
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: oak is one of you know, the hardest woods that
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: you can get at least you know, here in in
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: northern Europe. And just you know, the woods and our
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: you know, our gods are so you know, connected. Like
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: you you hear a lot of Pagans say, like, you know,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: if I want to go to church, I go into
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: the woods. That's where my guants are.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, you could even say some
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Christians could even go out into the woods and pray,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't know, they probably get condemned by
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: other Christians. But uh yeah, well why do you think
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: God had given us our two temples? Right to two
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: temples on our head?
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: You can talk to him anywhere.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you don't need to talk through somebody or
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: all all this other stuff.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: But it's a continuity between the oak tree in UH
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Germanic and the oak tree in uh you know Greek,
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: because in Greece the oak was the sign of Jupiter
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: or Zeus, and you know it was that direct interpretation
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: with the lightning. So there's somehow a linkage between the
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: lightning and the oak tree. Is this as this figure
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: and so this is where the divine groves would have
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: all these different types of trees representative of these different
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: gods and the We just did an episode with Robbie
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: Marx about Adonis being worshiped in the hollow of a tree.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: What they would do and you would actually cover it
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: over with this tree. And it was the same as
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: the Zimmerman's up in UH Germania as they had in
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Greece and Syria. So they had the same type of
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: priests who would work with these trees to create these
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: gods and goddesses out of them.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: And in a lot of the most ancient churches you
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: know here in you know, in the Netherlands and Germany, Scandinavia,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: and they are often well kind of representations of the woods.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Like you still have that that leafy pattern on the ceiling,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: you know that the big pillars of you know, where
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: the church is built on representative of the trees. It's
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: just you know, for for their god and our gods,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: because you know, otherwise state they weren't able to convert people.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: They had to do it, you know, like see this
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: is you know, pretty much like yours. Just you know,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: come on in here, it's the same, even though this
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: is old stone and we had to copy it to
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: literally get you here.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: The pillars were too hard, the pillars were too hard
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: for the Christians to copy. But the pillars themselves were
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: an act of trying to bring the Sacred Grove into
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: the city. Because at the top of each one of
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: those pillars, you've got these capitals that are shaped like
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: the leaves that these pillars are representing the trees at
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: the Sacred Grove. So you're worshiping at the sacred grove
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: made out of stone now instead of just the outside.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, is there any value in
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: it at all if it's not made from there, if
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: it's made of stone, Well, I mean.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: It's the representation. It's like you're creating the magical ritual
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: of converting this place in a city on the side
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: of a cliff, for instance, with the Parthenon, into a
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: sacred grove of trees. So you're bringing the representation of
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: where you first met the gods into the city where
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: now you can come and worship through the representation.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, And that's funny that you say that, because I
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: have some pictures here of ancient depictions of the greenment.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: I tried to get the pictures to uh like, I
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: tried to crop them out and copy them, just to
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: pull them up, but it won't let me do it.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna have to pull this pdf up. We're
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: not going to read from the PDF. We can if
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: we want, but I just want to look at these
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: pictures real fast, because these are very interesting. Yep, all right,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna pull this up. Sorry, guys, it's not on there.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: Well ten thirteen down in the comments, just sa ontology
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: meets animism, and a really good example of that would
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: be Parmanides and his poem on Nature, where he literally
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: invents the philosophy of ontology, and it's all about the
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: source or this ones connection to connection to all the
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: other gods and how things manifest. So it's literally and
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: you know, this was the source for all of the
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: theological advancement during five hundred BC in Greece, one of
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: the most productive periods of human history. So Parmanides kind
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: of invents science when he's on this sort of astral
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: trip where he's going to meet this goddess of the underworld,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: and in doing so, he also, you know, gives birth
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: to this really interesting tradition of religion that's based around
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: the emanation from the source. So it's an interesting read
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: if you guys get the chance. Parmenites on Nature. There's
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: only a few fragments of it left, but you can
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: really start to see it as a seed document that
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: sort of flip flowers into all the rest of the
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: stuff you see in Greece at that time.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Now, now this is just a common you'll see this
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: on buildings and churches, even now it's like he has
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: vines coming out of his mouth, and some depictions it's
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: like he's sticking his tongue out.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: But it's the same guy. Yeah, it's the same guy.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Dude, same god, same archetype, same mon. Yeah.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, I'm pretty sure my mom has a
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: couple of these and that I'm gonna put in my garden. Now, uh,
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: these these faces of the green man maybe make the
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: garden grow faster.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Well speaking, yeah, guys, this is uh here, Nick, did
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: you have something else that you were gonna pull up?
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, let me see if I have that one.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure what this was. Uh, he doesn't look
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: as green as the other guy is.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna pull this up while while you find that.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Then I got some other depictions of him.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: All right, are y'all seeing this?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a nice so looks like a twelve
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: page PDF that I got just.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Touch up on it. But yeah, I mean you see
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: this depiction of them. Let's go down can make this
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: a little bigger.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: There's the figure twelve. The horns, the horned gods, the
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: horns right, yeah, well snos and Celtic. Yeah, he's the
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: most well known one.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: All right, here we go down here. Yeah, you see
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: depictions of the horn God. But you see a lot
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: of this, right, I've seen a lot of pictures of
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: this on the on the corner of a lot of
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: mausoleums and churches and buildings. Some people say that they're dragons,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: but when you see these other pictures of the green Man,
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: it kind of confirms it, right, that they're they're venerating
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: this ancient spirit.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: And I love how with that one the nose is
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: broken off as well.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Right, dude, you see that where else?
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: On the sphinx?
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: You see that on a lot of places everywhere.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, what this basically says? The green Man appears
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: not only as the folly ahead of a man carved
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: in stone. There are a few rather feminine versions. Oh wow,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: this answers my question. Although they are commonly referred to
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: as green man carvings. One exception is a carving southwll Minster, which,
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: because it wears a wimple and article of women's clothing,
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: is said to be a green woman. This is weird,
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: how I just I didn't even read this part earlier,
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: so that's very interesting. So, yeah, there are depictions of
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: green women. It talks down here, sir Nuno's Dionysus Bacchus. Yeah, yeah,
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: which if you go back further, is entities like nanar
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Sin the moon god in some religions, right, they change
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: throughout different cultures, all right, And I thought about doing
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: that as a presentation, but I don't know. That's just
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: taking someone else's PDF and reading it. That'd be more
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: like a book review. We we do that, do that
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: on Patreon, guys. So let's see.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Am I hearing?
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: Uh?
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Are are y'all hearing interference? Or is that just me.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: I hear a little bit?
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: You hear a little bit? Yeah, I don't know. I
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: don't know. It's probably my phone.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: I'm in a garage and so if I plug my
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: phone up in here, sometimes it picks up on my interface.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: If you guys wanted to see Priapis I have some pictures?
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here Nick has some stuff pulled
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: up to Sorry, I.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Oh it's wow.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Is that his his hog?
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: God, that's it.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: So you could see he's got all the agricultural products
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: right here, and uh, he's sort of measuring it against
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: his dog and the fringing cap yep, frdging cap, so
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: you can say it comes from that Thracian region. What
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: the fuck hell.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Wowsers?
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's wild man.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: So this was a common ornament that they would have
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: in their gardens, is the preapist statue, because the statue.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Is like a fertility statue, right, right, and.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: So he's sort of a god of fertility. And also
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: in a lot of cases, this stone Pallas would actually
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: come off, and so they could use it to beat
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: intruders with u suing. The phallus of Priapus is sort
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: of like a self defense weapon.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, Yeah.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: It's crazy man, a literal weapon.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Right. That's a different kind of club.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Where is this nick.
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: That was a Tobaya park? Ah, he is in the Bronx. Yeah.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we know who that is, though, don't we. That's
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: that's not agreement, it's closed.
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: It was for some reason when I showed it one time,
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: I thought it like you might have referenced agree man
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: with that guy.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know why I thought that.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, I see why, but it's someone else.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: Oh, this is Medusa and really it always Yeah, you
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: can always tell Medusa because she has the snakes and
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: the wings, because what came out of her neck was uh, Pegasus,
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: So after she was slain, you have Pegasus spring from
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: her neck, and so yeah, you see the snakes all
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: around her head. But this was used as a common
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: motif on shields, so it's like you've got the green
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Man motif further up north. But during the same time period,
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: this is like the shield symbol. So this was on
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: Zeus's shield, which is called the aegis, right, and so
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: the aegis was supposed to be the constantly shifting kind
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: of three D viewer port, so you could see anything
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: you wanted to, and it was the god goddess Athena
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: that put Medusa's head in there, which made it this
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: sort of magical mirror type type object that could kill you.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: But also you've got the eye of Medusa, also called
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: al goal, and so in the Perseus constellation, he's holding
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: up the head of Medusa with algol right in her
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: eye socket, and so it's the idea that algol can
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: turn you into stone. But it's still a green Man
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: type motif. But the face of this thing sort of
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: put everywhere in the Hellenic world.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't have guessed that at all. I would
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: have probably gone with Hermes or Mercury.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, same, Yeah, very interesting, dude.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: That's awesome that you went to these places, Nick, and
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: I'd see I need to do stuff like that.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: I have some pictures of is it the Robert E.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Lee Cathedral in Lexington, Virginia. It's very esoteric stuff. When
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: they have a podium. I can probably find No, I don't.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know, pictures, probably not on here.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Is it on here?
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: It's on here. I can pull it up real fast.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: It's a pretty cool picture. No, it's not on here.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Of course it's not on here.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: I have a picture of Nate looking like a fag,
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: but but it's not on here.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Isn't the Satan also supposed to have this giant schlong
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: or whatever what creature was it to believe it.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: Was all the rust of gods. So even Hermes is
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: depicted as having a massive schlong, and he was used
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: in these kind of wind chimes called tintinabulum. So he's
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: got a bunch of like pieces of metal hanging off
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: of his schlong and it blows in the breeze. But
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: the idea is that these rustic gods really don't have
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: a higher brain function. They're they're more of just like
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: totally in tune with nature, totally in tune with animals
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: and all the rest of that stuff, which is why
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: they have a lot of this fertility energy.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Right. So yeah, yeah, yeah, if.
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: You're thinking too much, right, you're not thinking about your wei, right.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: But if you're if you're not thinking at all, you're
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: just out there trying to fuck everything. And that's that's
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: kind of the dichotomy that they were going for.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's me and my twenties.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Looking around with something that big in your pants and
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: they didn't even have pants like us. They had robes, right,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: So it was just like like probably hanging just like
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: on the floor. Sorry, guys, we didn't mean to bring
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: you out here to talk about almost per half an hour.
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: Well, I think it's it's part of this because you know,
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: the fertility energy is what they're trying to pick with
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: all these you know, leaves and everything else, and they
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: you know that the Greeks were just literalists, they're like
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: fertility energy. So we see fertility, we see all these leaves,
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: we see big old schlongs and everything else as sort
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: of a way of bringing life back from the underworld.
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: So the bigger the schlong, the more fertility energy. Right.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: I wonder if o Cyrus had a huge hog because
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: he was the same type of god, right, this green guy.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: When you look into pataph and the he had what
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: was known as the jed pillar. Now this is spelled
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: d J E D because they were Jedi, right, and
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: then you get into the green Man archetype of Yoda, right,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: being this uh this archetype.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: On Star Wars with the Jedies. It's very weird.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: You knew that George George Lucas was reading into his
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: uh his esoteric studies.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: So would you say the Washington Monument is a pretty
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: big schlong.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Dude, don't get me started with Washington Monument and Osiris.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Brow it's the same thing, though, well, yeah it is.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: You know, there's a theory that during the presidential we
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: did this like the weekend of when Trump got inducted
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: into office again, that they're invoking the spirit of Osiris
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: into the president or whatever in this underground chamber underneath
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: the White House apparently, well there's that capital allegedly allegedly, Yeah, yeah,
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: that's that's under the Capitol.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Sorry, it's funny, you mentioned Yoda as well because Susie
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: q in and in justsap well back, she's one of
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: my my subscriber's subsuzen. She mentioned the little green man
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: from space.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: All right, well that's what Martians used to be known as, right,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: these little green men.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: But Mars dead planet or you know, I mean now
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: they're saying there was one's life where they found some
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: sort of bacterial life, but it's a dead planet. It's like,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: you know, if Earth went through like an all out
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: nuclear war, we end up like Mars. Well, but somehow
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: they're a little green man. White green though, just because
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: like everything that's like grows and dirty and disgusting, we
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: associate with green, like figure slime. You know, slime is
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: always it's always green for some reason, right, you know.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Or when someone is jealous, like you know, they're green
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: with jealousy, or someone's new, you know, they're they're green green. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: It's interesting. Yeah, man.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Now maybe there's a deeper meaning to it. But I
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: do believe that this is the archetype of what Headless
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: brought up earlier, the divine masculine, or maybe it was
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Stein that brought it up.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Kind of maybe even the.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: First one, right, like the first thing that symbolized that
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: I gotta go watch the Green Night again, be honest
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: with you.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I mean it was Rhett in Chad like about fifteen
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: minutes back who said that if then Gaya is the
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: mother goddess, then the green Man it carries the seeds,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: like literally carries the seeds, and he seeds Gaya. He
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: brings you know, all the life to Gaya. So in
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: that way he is the well the divine masculine to
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: the defining feminine that is g He he brings life there,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: so you know he'd be her consort.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: I got to clip that.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I actually could couldn't couldn't agree more. Man,
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: let's see, i'mtna take this out here. Nick, appreciate you
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: bringing all that.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Nick.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: In the movie John Carter, there's there's two races of
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: life on Mars that are sort of advanced, and the
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: one with the four arms are all green. Right, have
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: you ever seen John Carter?
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: No, But I'm about to get it off on the
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: schizo tangent here in a second.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: So you guys, so you know, if.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: You read about the Anonochi or whatever, right, and we
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: all you know a lot of people think it's fake
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: and gay. Whatever it's we're theorizing here. There were one,
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: you know, a race of quote unquote angels that lived
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: on Mars known as the Ajiji, and some of them
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: were green. And this is apparently where Osiris was born from.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Was this line of h and you go back to Patah.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: This was also the same archetype as in Key and
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: so you know there's that. And so you follow this
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: line back and you can see this representation of a
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: green entity and all these different civilizations and all these
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: different cultures, and it may have something to do with
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: this certain archetype or this certain as you would say,
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: this side of this one pantheon, and that could possibly
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: get into biblical bloodlines and you know, priest kings of
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Babylon and the prison system that we are, prison world
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: we live in today or whatever.
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: Well, I think that's where Nick can come in, because
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: Nigga knows all about the color green and the Kabbala.
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: Try it's that Nick. Oh.
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: I was trying to think about that before and even
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: think about well, I mean, you always get the Philosopher's
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: stone too. It was always coming up with green and shit.
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: But uh, yeah, I was trying to think about that
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: before the whole thing with green and even with the
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: cabalistic sense, I mean, it does go with nature, it
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: goes with duty.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: My opinion too is like, well, when you come out
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: of that sphere, you start to get into colors and
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: shit as well, going into hold, there's like this rainbow
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: of like colors that's supposed to go from netsck to hoad.
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: So like even then, I do believe that's kind of
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: like just like a Wizard of Oz when you added
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: the color to the movie, it all got real, more
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: realistic and in depth and all this and that. So
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: I do think it might Emerald city.
• 55:51
  Speaker 9: Yeah yeah. And in order for that growth to happen,
• 55:59
  Speaker 9: I do that the male present, the male energy has
• 56:03
  Speaker 9: to project out of whatever it's already in again, like
• 56:06
  Speaker 9: a light bulb.
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: So like could you see like nature and plant life,
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: like showing that in a more basic sense of life,
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: like somehow energy just coming into matter here. You know,
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: at the beginning basics.
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: We see more shades of green than any other color.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: That's partially because of how much time we spend in
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: the forest, but you know it's it's like evolutionarily we
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: see more green, so It's like beauty being Tiffera and
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: being stuck right there in the middle, having everything to
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: do with the heart chakra. It all kind of makes
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: sense when you put it into that, that sort of
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: that's our home, you know.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Is green the transforming color in alchemy?
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like I was going to ask that next.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: Is there any line do you all know? Yeah, it's
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: one of my back I plan on getting that tattooed
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: on me. Is there anything having to do with the
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: green man in alchemy?
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Is he? Is he a sign of the alchemical process?
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, That's what I was trying to get out before.
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: I think that is a symbol of you actually do
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: experiencing the alchemical.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: Process, experiencing like an energy transmussion from dark to light
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: or whatever.
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: It's like like sometimes it depends on how you look
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: at it. I don't know if you even know of
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: like the sphere of Doth. I look at that as
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: if you cross the Abyss and came back and now
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: you have understanding of knowledge. You know what I'm saying,
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: would be like the green Man would be like representative
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: of somebody that I've like had this magical experience and
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: I know it now. I've experienced it.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: Maybe they experienced them in a dream or a vision,
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: a psychedelic trip.
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Another thing I just wanted to love the thing he.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: Just comes out fizz. I mean maybe that happens too.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it does to some people.
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: The thing I did want to add real quick too,
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: again with like the whole nature shit, you know, and
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: that's why you keep dragging it all. But like when
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: you when you go from the sphere of seven, which
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: is green, and it heads over to hod uh, that's
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: when you actually get into both x's too. And if
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: you think about it in between that middle area, you
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: can kind of get a little weird. And if you
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: start thinking about plants, they really fucking know, they have
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: other things pollinating. Some of them will even change sex,
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: you know, Lily's will do that. They'll they'll actually like
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: change sex and use a beat to pollinate the fucking
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: normal self. Yeah, so you have to wondering, like again
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: when I'm getting it, and Nazis are huge into bodany,
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: so so you have to like think about I just
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: to me, I do think there might be something there
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: with like the male energy that breaks the matrix to
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: start creating something in this reality, dude.
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: For sure, for sure, I pulled up I pulled up
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: a bunch of images of the green Lion devouring the sun.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so again we're seeing here is again that tep
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: erratic zone. So now the green is devouring the gold.
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and green does Green is right underneath the sun
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: on the tree of life too.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: That represents the blood.
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: So there's a lot in there, but it would be
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: the alchemical version of that green man energy, I think.
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: So there's you know, again, you got to think of
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: this as like a hunger universe, so it's never going
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: to be one, but you're going to see these associations
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: start to move and meld into one another. So you've
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: got the aspects of the villain and you know, the
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: the green aspect of let's say the Hulk or low key. Right,
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: this is sort of changing the entire course for the hero,
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: right because he represents this sort of you know, unmoved barrier,
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: like you can't beat life. Life finds a way.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: In this. I'm sorry, And were you going to say something?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: No, I was just.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Thinking like in a lot of well popular culture, popular art,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Loki is depicted as you know green or having this
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: this green you about him in our stories. He I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: mean not directly, of course, but caused the death of Balder,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: who was, you know, the most beautiful of all the gods.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, the youngest son of Odin right.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I believe so. And you know, Balder is,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: you know, the most beautiful. His name literally means the
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: radiant one, so he is the son. But he got tricked,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: or Loki tricked his blind brother Hoder to throw a
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: dart of mistletoe at him, the one thing that that
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: could wound and kill Balder. But because the story, because Balder,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: like even at birth, was so radiant and so incredibly
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: incredibly beautiful, his mother went throughout the realm and asked
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: every being, every plans you know, to like make a
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: promise to never hurt Bolder. But she was like, oh,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: you know, the the mistletoe is so innocent, you know,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: it really doesn't do anything. I'm just gonna assume that,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: you know, it won't hurt Loki. Of course, you know,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: being the trickster and being very very clever, very intelligent,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: he knew that. And for the gods, you know, it's
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: just a fun game, Like, oh, you can't hurt Balder.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Nothing can hurt Bolder. Let's just chuck stuff at him
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: and watch it bounce off. I mean, I do imagine
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: that being a pretty fun game.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: Well, you've got the white flower too on the end
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: of the the sprig of missiletee, so the white of
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: innocence sort of how could that possibly hurt anybody? You know?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you know, because his twin brother
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: hother was blind, so Loki, you know, of course, gave
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: him a dart and kind of you know, aimed him
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: towards Bolder and most like, hey, you should throw this
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: like this is funny, Like, oh, it's not gonna it's
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: not gonna do anything, trust me, you know it did.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: That's how you know Boulder was killed. That's how he
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: journeys to the underworld. That's where you get in in
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Hellenic the it's the the story of Persephony, just a
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  Speaker 2: little little difference.
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  Speaker 3: It's the story.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the same story of it's.
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  Speaker 2: The going down into the underworld and lighting up again.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the same story. In Mesopotamia, that of Tamou
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  Speaker 4: or what's his name, the moozie I think, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean Christ even, you know, that's that's his story as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fascinating man.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then doesn't Odin try to go down there and
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  Speaker 4: try to try to get.
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  Speaker 2: Him, No, he he send someone on slap near the
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  Speaker 2: legged horse.
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  Speaker 3: I have to I'm sorry about I'm just very interested.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's fine. I don't know it from the from
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  Speaker 2: the top of my head. Like all those Norse names.
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  Speaker 2: Hermot's Hermit's h r m o D volunteered to journey
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  Speaker 2: to the underworlds to petition the goddess Hell for his release,
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  Speaker 2: and riding on Odin's eight legged horse slip near a
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  Speaker 2: child of Loki. He traveled for nine days and nine
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  Speaker 2: nights through dark and treacherous valleys two Hell's realm.
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  Speaker 4: That's fascinating that Hermod was the one. Hermod is very
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  Speaker 4: similar to Hermes, which links directly to Ningazita in Sumeria.
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  Speaker 4: The brother of I mean, who would be a brother
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  Speaker 4: of I guess the brother of Tamuz, the older brother
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  Speaker 4: who went down to the underworld and begged his cousin.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Hermut is one of the brothers of Boulder.
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  Speaker 4: So okay, yeah, they have the same story. Just told
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  Speaker 4: you know cultures, yeah, yeah, in the north, Yeah, yeah, man,
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  Speaker 4: fascinating stuff. I got to get you on to do
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: it like a full like Norse Mythology episode. Man, I
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: still have anyone on to talk about that yet. I'd
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  Speaker 4: love to do that with you.
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  Speaker 2: That's much ab for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Just hell yeah, no, I'd.
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  Speaker 4: I'd love to get you on for that, man for sure.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: So I don't know, Man, were there any concluding thoughts
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: that that that you guys had on this?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: Was there anything else that I wanted to share?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: Because there is something that I wanted to bring up
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: when we talk about the alchemy aspect, and there's something
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: when like the sun shines through the leaves, there's a
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: green hue that is over everything, And didn't that have
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  Speaker 4: something to do with it? I don't know, Maybe I'm
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: thinking about something else.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I know that during the eclipses, if you look
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: through the trees, you'll see that on the ground. You'll
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: have a negative image or a positive image of the
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: event taking place in the sky. So you get all
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: the you know, slivers of sun as it's being eaten
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: by this green lion. Okay, so you kind of get
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: that that angle too, because it's it's sort of like
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: the trees become sort of a dispersal point for all
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: of this different kinds of light, so it's almost like
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: they're eating the sun rays. But you know, who knows,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: maybe being under the right kind of tree during a
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: solar eclipse might be a interesting fact, maybe the oak tree,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: for example.
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  Speaker 3: You can only try it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Someone can get this out of here, all right. Yeah, no,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: I didn't even think of the fact that you know
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: about all the stuff. Man, I would have wrote down
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: a lot more questions asked you about that. But we
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: can do that on another episode. I think that'd be
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: really cool, and I'm actually super excited for it now.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: So I'm always done for that for sure.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: Glad I invited you on this today. Man, this was fun.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah, guys, you know, I've had some people
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: say some stuff lately, like oh, this this episode wasn't
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: long enough. It's like, yeah, dude, you know how many
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: episodes I put out a week work full time, I
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: at least put out four episodes a week, so I
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: try to, you know, keep everyone entertained. So some some
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: episodes aren't two and a half hours long, you know,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: because the conversation, you know, we had a good conversation.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: The next episode maybe three hours long that we do together.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: You know, this is something that I wanted to touch
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: on for a while, and I think I picked the
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: right people to talk about it with, to be honest
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: with you, So I appreciate you guys for coming and
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: hanging out with me. Is there anything that y'all have
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: coming that y'all wanted to promote or plug?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: Well, check out my channel at five because we're doing
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: the trialogues then, so tune in at five today Central
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: Standard time, not Eastern. Yeah.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: Just follow him on Twitter at Headless Underscore Giant. It's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: Headless Underscore Giant. You're just telling people Headless Giant. They're
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: not going to find you.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Really, I'm pretty sure it's Headless Underscore Giant.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: If I'm wrong, then fuck me. I should shut my
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: mouth and I interrupted. I interrupted Stein as well, So
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry about that.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Oh that's all right man. Right now, for me, it's
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: just the ground pakings podcasts on all the greater podcasting
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: platforms and fight me on YouTube, YouTube dot com at
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: stein Fox. That's where the podcast videos are posted. It's
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: where I post clips and snippets of the podcasts that
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: I've done, and I've been doing more standalone videos as well,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: just fifteen twenty minute videos on topics that I find
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: interesting or that my my audience wanted me to talk about.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: And of course every Saturday the Room Reading Terror Reading
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: live stream with Zero laths Rathi Journal.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: And that's live on your channel on Saturdays, because I'm
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: very ined in tuning into one of those.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean interested in how do you read rooms?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean Zero Lath will he is happy
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: to tell you all about that. So yeah, every Saturday,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: six pm my time, at six pm Amsterdam time, midday
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Stern time.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, that's okay, So subtract seven hours guys,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: and then you got Central time.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how we did it because I was like,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: you're seven hours ahead of me, because yeah, I was
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: at work in the middle of the day and you
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: were getting off of work I think, or you were
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: like I think about to go to bed, and I
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: was like, oh man, he is that far ahead of me.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: So don thanks, thanks, thanks for coming on, brother, You
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: appreciate it. Nick.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: So yeah, the ocult rejects, bitch you rumble YouTube well,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: major podcast hosts. That's about it. That's all I got.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: Thank you, very much for having me on here again.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 6: Like I said, it was probably the least you know,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: educated on the stuffing.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Fox.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: Dude, it's hot, Stan, you got some admirers. I'm pretty
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: sure you're taking though right.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, happily married.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: That's awesome. Man.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, I have to say the same thing, man,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: been married.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: We just celebrated our twelve year anniversary.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Yeah, she just started her own podcast. Guys,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: go to babelon babelon podcast. She just dropped episode two
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: and I'm pretty sure I interrupted, Nick, So there I
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: go again.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: I think I was done anyway, were you Yeah?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: I think so?
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, Well, short and sweet all the same, guys.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: Thank you all for coming and hanging out with us
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: on this Sunday afternoon. Go check out well I guess uh.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: You find me on Twitter at great pul Pod, Instagram,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: Great Pool to Underscore podcasts over on Rumble, YouTube, Spotify,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: Apple podcasts. Go over to Patreon, Patreon dot com, Slash,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: Great Pool Podcast. We have our esoteric book reviews over there.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: We are doing twin Peaks tonight, Twin Peaks Watch Party.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: I will be streaming it live to Rumble in h
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: Twitter and then we'll be taking it down immediately afterwards.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: So we're streaming him live, uh, because I think the
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: season is almost up and so I think it'd be
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: fun for everyone to watch it. Meet Cavnet's good scene.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: You better be there tonight and that'll probably be at
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: nine o'clock tonight guys, Central Time. But go over to Patreon.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: We got a lot of good stuff over there. You
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: get a free sticker pack. This week, I'm going on
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Inquiries of Reality Tuesday night with Shane. I'll be streaming
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: that to my channel. He's a good guy. It's about
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: time we did something together. And then is he is
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: coming on Thursday?
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Is he Griffin? That's gonna be a banger of a show, dude.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I got Izzy coming on man.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny enough.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: He's a rapper and he wraps in the same underground
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: scene that I used to wrap in like.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: A decade ago.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Yoh that's cool.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's very weird hell stuff. I was like, dude,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: you have a goth money poster behind you. How do
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: you know who that is? He was like, their manager
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: is my manager? I was like, get the fuck.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 8: I used to listen to God's Money all the time, dude,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: I still have my eyestyle shirt anyway. And then next Saturday,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 8: we have a sound science with Bradley from White Rabbit Podcast,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 8: so you all tune into that.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: As well as the Esotery book reviews every Saturday morning
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: nine o'clock banger of an episode. Again, guys, thank y'all
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: for coming and hanging out and tune in.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, tune in. I guess will that be on
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: your channel later? Headless or the Court Rejects channel.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: It's live right now. I think it's live on both.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 6: Oh no, no, his trialogue's on his show.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: No the trialogue?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: No, yeah no, that's coming out on my channel. So
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: check that out Headless Giant like.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: Okay, streaming out that later and uh have have a
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: good rest of y'all weekend, guys, Stay great.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: Pilled later later