Latest / The World of Phil Hendrie / Episode #3974 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive October 2001
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hi, everybody.
- 0:00Speaker 2: Welcome to another Radio Archive offering from the Radio Hall
- 0:03Speaker 2: of Fame Phil Hendry Show and our website, philhendryshow.com. And
- 0:07Speaker 2: we've been rolling out these ones that, I say these ones,
- 0:10Speaker 2: these radio shows that come from our syndicated days, come
- 0:13Speaker 2: from our local days in Los Angeles, local days in Miami,
- 0:16Speaker 2: so you can hear how we did our radio show
- 0:18Speaker 2: as opposed to how we do the podcast. Radio, some
- 0:21Speaker 2: people say, is done. Well, not around here, man. At
- 0:25Speaker 2: least we have the radio archives to to offer up
- 0:28Speaker 2: to you. This one is very, very interesting. It was
- 0:32Speaker 2: a show we did in New York six weeks after 9-11,
- 0:35Speaker 2: and we literally went to New York City in late
- 0:37Speaker 2: October 2001 after the tragedy of 9-11, and we did
- 0:41Speaker 2: the show from the Museum of Radio and Television, I
- 0:44Speaker 2: think it was called the Museum of Broadcasting in New
- 0:46Speaker 2: York and LA. They're two different, I think they have
- 0:48Speaker 2: two different names, I could be wrong, up on 52nd Street.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Now it's called the Paley Center for Media in New York. Nonetheless,
- 0:59Speaker 2: Steve Bozell called a show, and he said that kids
- 1:01Speaker 2: shouldn't wear firefighter and police costumes because they might be
- 1:04Speaker 2: mistaken for real cops and real firefighters. He thanked an
- 1:09Speaker 2: Army Ranger at a pumpkin patch for his service, and
- 1:12Speaker 2: it turned out it was just a little kid. And
- 1:14Speaker 2: he was embarrassed, and I'm sure he threatened to sue.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Here's Steve Bozell from October of 2001. Okay, Steve, you there?
- 1:20Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Okay, tell me, now, I know the kids are wearing,
- 1:23Speaker 2: for Halloween tomorrow night, they're wearing firefighter costumes.
- 1:27Speaker 3: Yeah, they're wearing firefighter costumes. They're also wearing the Marine
- 1:32Speaker 3: Corps and police officer costumes.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Yeah, one of our kids went to a costume party
- 1:39Speaker 2: the other night in his uncle's Marine Corps fatigues.
- 1:43Speaker 3: Well, I think one of the reasons why I'm calling
- 1:45Speaker 3: is because the FBI has warned that there could be
- 1:50Speaker 3: another terror incident.
- 1:53Speaker 1: I understand that.
- 1:55Speaker 3: And during a terror attack, I think the instinct is
- 1:57Speaker 3: to make contact with the proper authorities. And I'm simply
- 2:01Speaker 3: concerned that if anyone contacts the police tomorrow night, and then,
- 2:06Speaker 3: and I'm sure you can imagine, they hear a doorbell
- 2:08Speaker 3: ring and there is someone dressed as they think it's
- 2:12Speaker 3: a police officer, you could put a child in harm's
- 2:15Speaker 3: way by hiding behind him or embarrassing yourself by asking
- 2:19Speaker 3: a child to take a burglary report and they want candy.
- 2:22Speaker 3: See what I'm saying?
- 2:24Speaker 1: You're talking about people mistaking children?
- 2:26Speaker 3: I just think there's too many kids out there dressed
- 2:28Speaker 3: as fire. That's going to be the number one costume,
- 2:31Speaker 3: and I've been reading it in all the magazines, and
- 2:32Speaker 3: I have it written, read it in all the newspapers
- 2:35Speaker 3: and everything. The number one costume will be fire people,
- 2:40Speaker 3: police personalities, and military personalities. Now, you have a situation
- 2:46Speaker 3: where the FBI has said there could be a problem
- 2:50Speaker 3: with Yeah.
- 2:52Speaker 1: I understand that. I think that our, you know, we're
- 2:54Speaker 1: aware of that. The police are aware of that.
- 2:56Speaker 3: But now you've got all these people dressed up like police.
- 3:00Speaker 3: And what appears to be a police officer comes to
- 3:03Speaker 3: your door, and they ask for candy, and you think
- 3:06Speaker 3: that he was there.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Oh, I see.
- 3:08Speaker 2: So in other words, you're saying if, for instance, you
- 3:10Speaker 2: had a problem like a burglary.
- 3:12Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
- 3:13Speaker 1: And you call the cops.
- 3:15Speaker 3: You will pick up the phone. You're going to call
- 3:16Speaker 3: the police.
- 3:17Speaker 2: And you call the police, and there's the doorbell. You
- 3:19Speaker 2: run to the door thinking it's the police. And you
- 3:22Speaker 2: may think that's the police because.
- 3:23Speaker 3: Because you've got literally thousands of children dressed up in
- 3:28Speaker 3: the police costume. Now, last week I was at a
- 3:32Speaker 3: pumpkin patch where the children were picking out a pumpkin.
- 3:36Speaker 3: And this is difficult for me to say because of
- 3:42Speaker 3: the things that have been going on.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Look, you've got to understand that the FBI has got
- 3:45Speaker 2: it under control. I think we're in good hands with
- 3:47Speaker 2: our police.
- 3:47Speaker 3: No, but I was at a pumpkin patch last week
- 3:49Speaker 3: with the kids picking out a pumpkin. I see a
- 3:52Speaker 3: man dressed in an Army Ranger uniform. So I walked
- 3:56Speaker 3: over to him and I said, Sir, I just want
- 3:58Speaker 3: to thank you for everything that you're doing for us.
- 4:02Speaker 3: And he burst out into tears and went over to
- 4:04Speaker 3: a woman and said, Mommy, the man, he's scary. And
- 4:08Speaker 3: now all of a sudden I look like six shades
- 4:12Speaker 3: of crap because.
- 4:14Speaker 1: It was a child in an Army Ranger uniform.
- 4:18Speaker 3: What happens, Mr. Henry, is that you... Let me.
- 4:21Speaker 1: Just interrupt you here. Children are, on average, shorter than adults.
- 4:27Speaker 1: I mean.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Yes, sir, they are.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Okay, so if I see an Army Ranger... You see
- 4:32Speaker 1: what I'm saying?
- 4:33Speaker 3: Well, I think there's two things. I think, number one, okay,
- 4:35Speaker 3: he is shorter, but there's a delusional thing that kicks in.
- 4:38Speaker 3: If you really want to see the police, and you really,
- 4:40Speaker 3: really hope and hope and pray, I hope the police come.
- 4:43Speaker 3: I hope they come. There's been a burglary. I'm afraid
- 4:45Speaker 3: of some kind of an incident. And there's, wow, there's
- 4:49Speaker 3: the uniform right there. You see a full, grown-up cop.
- 4:52Speaker 3: The other thing, too, is the Army Rangers in particular
- 4:55Speaker 3: are a special forces tactical unit. Now, these are individuals
- 5:00Speaker 3: who can be any size. They are taking smaller men.
- 5:03Speaker 3: My understanding was, and I had read in a couple
- 5:05Speaker 3: of magazines, that they will take even, not midgets or anything,
- 5:09Speaker 3: but they're taking guys that are.
- 5:12Speaker 1: The Rangers are taking what, guys under five foot tall?
- 5:14Speaker 3: They are taking... men that are four foot five or whatever,
- 5:17Speaker 3: because they can do things that a regular-sized guy can't do,
- 5:20Speaker 3: and I don't know what that is. You know, it's funny.
- 5:23Speaker 1: I thought paratroopers had to be taller, but.
- 5:25Speaker 3: No, not anymore, not because of what the Rangers got
- 5:28Speaker 3: to do, because they got to go into tunnels and everything.
- 5:31Speaker 3: I can give you another example of my kids will
- 5:35Speaker 3: be out trick-or-treating. Then all of a sudden, a knock
- 5:37Speaker 3: on the door, I open it, and I see a
- 5:39Speaker 3: police personality. Then I'm thinking, what has happened to my children?
- 5:45Speaker 1: Well, now, you don't want to.
- 5:46Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking, though.
- 5:48Speaker 2: No, but you don't want to go there, okay? Your
- 5:49Speaker 2: children are going to be fine. We can't let Halloween
- 5:52Speaker 2: turn into something that we're afraid of, all right?
- 5:55Speaker 1: And if the police... Look, your kids are out trick-or-treating.
- 5:57Speaker 3: That's correct.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Knock on the door. There's a cop there. But it's,
- 6:03Speaker 1: you know, four foot two or something.
- 6:05Speaker 3: It's... No, but you want to see a full-size one.
- 6:09Speaker 3: And by the same token, you don't know.
- 6:11Speaker 2: So.
- 6:12Speaker 3: I have asked and I hope and pray that I
- 6:15Speaker 3: will get some understanding on this from parents not to
- 6:19Speaker 3: dress their children up like no cop, not to dress
- 6:22Speaker 3: their children up like no fire people, and not to
- 6:26Speaker 3: dress their children up like no Army people, because we
- 6:29Speaker 3: are in a heightened state of alert in this country.
- 6:31Speaker 3: And you may have a cat up in a tree,
- 6:35Speaker 3: just to use an example. And look, there's a fireman there.
- 6:37Speaker 3: Go up in the tree, and it's a kid. He'll
- 6:39Speaker 3: start to cry. not knowing what you're talking about.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Well, you're afraid of what you're going to do to
- 6:43Speaker 1: the children then.
- 6:43Speaker 3: You can traumatize a child by saying, please help me,
- 6:46Speaker 3: my home's burning down, and the child will cry.
- 6:51Speaker 1: But if you call... You.
- 6:52Speaker 3: Can call the fire department, but now you see a fireman,
- 6:55Speaker 3: but it's only a kid, but you are not aware
- 6:57Speaker 3: of that. And to avoid all confusion, I am asking
- 7:01Speaker 3: all parents to think again while they put their children
- 7:05Speaker 3: in these costumes. All right, 1-800-449-8686.
- 7:08Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686, the number here on the Phil Henry Show. So
- 7:12Speaker 2: many things going on in our country. And Halloween, of course,
- 7:15Speaker 2: is coming up tomorrow night. It's always a great time
- 7:17Speaker 2: of the year. And many kids are going to be
- 7:20Speaker 2: dressed as police officers and as firefighters and as Army
- 7:24Speaker 2: soldiers and the like because the kids, Mr.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Bozell, the kids admire these people.
- 7:29Speaker 3: And I think they should. And I think at any
- 7:32Speaker 3: other time, it's okay. but you're going to get an
- 7:37Speaker 3: awful lot of confusion out there, especially a lot of
- 7:39Speaker 3: the older people who don't know because they have entered
- 7:43Speaker 3: into a befuddlement stage or the pre-Alzheimer befuddlement area. Suddenly
- 7:50Speaker 3: they go, oh, there's a policeman. Come on in and
- 7:53Speaker 3: have a drink or something like that. The child will
- 7:55Speaker 3: wet himself, burst into tears, and I will never forget
- 7:58Speaker 3: that child crying.
- 8:00Speaker 1: When you walked up to what you thought was an
- 8:02Speaker 1: Army Ranger in a pumpkin.
- 8:03Speaker 3: Patch, when I walked up to what I thought was
- 8:05Speaker 3: an Army Ranger in a pumpkin patch, yes, sir. You know,
- 8:08Speaker 3: but here's the thing. A friend of mine, Bill Anderson,
- 8:11Speaker 3: lives three stories, three houses down. He's got a three-story house.
- 8:15Speaker 3: He had a fire. Now, he's an elderly man in
- 8:20Speaker 3: his 80s. He had a fire in his garage. He's
- 8:23Speaker 3: seen one of the kids going to school for a
- 8:25Speaker 3: costume party dressed as a fireman. He said, please help me,
- 8:29Speaker 3: please help me. So all the kid knew was the
- 8:32Speaker 3: garden hose. He went over and turned on a garden hose,
- 8:35Speaker 3: and he said, that's not what you're supposed to use.
- 8:37Speaker 3: It wasn't held. So he had a terrible time with
- 8:39Speaker 3: the city. Yeah, but that's a– No, but he had
- 8:41Speaker 3: a terrible time with the city straightening that out. Look
- 8:44Speaker 3: at this. You send me a fireman, and he's using
- 8:48Speaker 3: a garden hose. And they said, well, what was he
- 8:50Speaker 3: dressed like? And I said, well, he had the hat
- 8:52Speaker 3: and everything. And they said, no, that was not one
- 8:53Speaker 3: of ours because they show up in trucks, and they're
- 8:57Speaker 3: about six feet tall. And to me, this is the
- 9:00Speaker 3: kind of problem that we could perhaps get it. All
- 9:03Speaker 3: I'm saying is I want to.
- 9:03Speaker 2: You want to avoid problems, but by the same token,
- 9:06Speaker 2: I don't think you want to panic, okay?
- 9:09Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's panicking. I think I just
- 9:11Speaker 3: want to avoid these problems.
- 9:13Speaker 2: All right, now, what you mentioned to my producer earlier,
- 9:15Speaker 2: you think that parents should be issued citations.
- 9:18Speaker 3: I think that Governor Pataki needs to issue citations to parents.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Governor Pataki is the governor of New York.
- 9:27Speaker 3: I understand that.
- 9:28Speaker 1: Why would he be the overriding authority?
- 9:31Speaker 3: Because I've seen him on TV a lot. I know
- 9:34Speaker 3: a lot of people have seen Governor Pataki. I think
- 9:36Speaker 3: he's probably the best governor we've got right now.
- 9:41Speaker 1: And you want him.
- 9:41Speaker 3: I think that he can be the one who can
- 9:43Speaker 3: issue citations for impersonating a police officer.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Well, now you're taking... See what you're doing now is
- 9:49Speaker 1: you're taking.
- 9:50Speaker 3: I don't want to do it. It's just that I'm scared.
- 9:52Speaker 2: No, but now you're taking a fun time the kids
- 9:54Speaker 2: are having and you want to cite the parents for
- 9:56Speaker 2: impersonating a police officer... because the kid's dressed as a
- 9:59Speaker 2: cop or a firefighter. or an army ranger and people
- 10:01Speaker 2: are going to think they're the real deal.
- 10:04Speaker 3: I don't want to ruin any child's Halloween, but I
- 10:06Speaker 3: think we've got to... The FBI says there's a possibility.
- 10:10Speaker 3: And if we have, God forbid, something serious happen in
- 10:13Speaker 3: this country and you've got nothing but 100 kids dressed as...
- 10:17Speaker 3: police officers with baggy pants, you know, that they're tripping over.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Well, they're not going to respond to the call.
- 10:24Speaker 3: No, but people are going to ask them to.
- 10:27Speaker 1: And primarily it's the senior citizens and.
- 10:30Speaker 3: Seniors and people who are afraid.
- 10:32Speaker 2: All right, 1-800-449-8686 is the number here on the Phil
- 10:38Speaker 2: Henry Show as we wrestle with the question of whether
- 10:40Speaker 2: children should be out wearing police uniform, fire uniforms, and
- 10:43Speaker 2: army uniforms for Halloween because... Some people, especially with our
- 10:47Speaker 2: country in a heightened state of alert, some people may
- 10:50Speaker 2: think these are real cops and will be confused if
- 10:55Speaker 2: something's happening to their house. And I'm not entirely sure
- 10:59Speaker 2: that if I really needed a cop, would I think
- 11:02Speaker 2: that a guy three feet tall standing in front of
- 11:04Speaker 2: me is a real cop?
- 11:05Speaker 1: If I'm a senior citizen, maybe that's a different story.
- 11:07Speaker 1: I don't know. Stephen Bozelli is a homeowner from Corona.
- 11:10Speaker 1: We'll be back. We're live in New York City. This
- 11:12Speaker 1: is The Phil Henry Show.
- 11:27Speaker 3: Phil Henry.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Okay, Steve, we're back with Steve Bozell on the Phil
- 11:30Speaker 2: Henry Show.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Your kids are trick-or-treating, right?
- 11:32Speaker 3: My kids are going to be trick-or-treating, absolutely.
- 11:34Speaker 1: What are they dressed as?
- 11:36Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. My daughter is going as a witch.
- 11:38Speaker 3: My elder son wants to go as Superman, but they
- 11:41Speaker 3: did want to. My son wanted to dress as a
- 11:44Speaker 3: police officer, and my daughter wanted to go as a firefighter.
- 11:47Speaker 3: I said, absolutely not.
- 11:48Speaker 1: And the reason for this?
- 11:49Speaker 3: The reason is there's too much risk involved in dressing
- 11:54Speaker 3: children wrong. As firefighters and police officers, if there is
- 11:59Speaker 3: a large incident, God forbid that this should happen, a
- 12:02Speaker 3: large catastrophe of some kind, and you have a number
- 12:06Speaker 3: of police officers responding, and then you've got a bunch
- 12:09Speaker 3: of little kids all dressed up in police costumes, and
- 12:13Speaker 3: they get mixed in with the real ones, now you've
- 12:15Speaker 3: got weapons being handed out. And I'm sure you have
- 12:18Speaker 3: seen on many of the documentaries that I have seen,
- 12:21Speaker 3: the police are just handing out riot guns. and they're
- 12:24Speaker 3: just handing them out, and they're not sure who they're
- 12:26Speaker 3: handing these out to. They're handing out riot guns, and
- 12:28Speaker 3: you've got all smaller versions of police officers mixed in
- 12:31Speaker 3: with the larger, you know, the children mixed in with
- 12:33Speaker 3: the adults. Now they're getting riot guns. The kid thinks
- 12:37Speaker 3: it's a toy gun or something. I'm just worried.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Well, it's not the time, though, to say that, you know,
- 12:44Speaker 2: you don't want to have kids dressed as firefighters and
- 12:47Speaker 2: police officers, I don't think.
- 12:49Speaker 1: 1-800-449- What's even.
- 12:50Speaker 3: Scarier is the kids, they love to fantasize. They just
- 12:54Speaker 3: might think that they can help. That's all I'm saying.
- 12:56Speaker 3: I'm telling parents right now, we may take this out
- 12:59Speaker 3: of their hands. We see any kids dressed as firefighters
- 13:02Speaker 3: and police officers.
- 13:04Speaker 2: I don't even know if you can cite a parent
- 13:05Speaker 2: for their kid impersonating a police officer. 1-800-449-8686 on the
- 13:09Speaker 2: Phil Henry Show.
- 13:11Speaker 1: Here is Kevin. Kevin, go ahead.
- 13:15Speaker 4: My question is, when you see this three-foot tall cop,
- 13:18Speaker 4: and you see this three-foot-tall ghost and three-foot-tall Godzilla right
- 13:21Speaker 4: next to him, do you think that kid is really
- 13:23Speaker 4: a cop?
- 13:25Speaker 3: No, I don't know who's going to be next to him.
- 13:27Speaker 3: I'm just saying that you've got police officers that are
- 13:30Speaker 3: in the middle of a heightened alert situation. And you've
- 13:35Speaker 3: got people who call a cop, and people who call
- 13:38Speaker 3: a cop, especially your senior citizens who call a cop,
- 13:42Speaker 3: And if that kid's alone or for whatever reason they
- 13:44Speaker 3: think that's a real cop or a real firefighter, I
- 13:46Speaker 3: don't think there's a time to be dressing a kid
- 13:48Speaker 3: up like that.
- 13:49Speaker 4: So common sense goes out the window in that situation.
- 13:52Speaker 4: The argument about the right here.
- 13:53Speaker 3: Common sense goes out the window. Right now, the FBI
- 13:57Speaker 3: said that there is a possibility of terror attacks.
- 14:01Speaker 4: We pay a cop to be on his game.
- 14:03Speaker 3: Do you hear about that?
- 14:04Speaker 4: If a cop hands a three-foot-tall cop who thinks he's
- 14:07Speaker 4: a cop a gun... then we're not paying that cop
- 14:10Speaker 4: to do his job right.
- 14:11Speaker 3: That's what he's taking you under stress. You can talk
- 14:14Speaker 3: about that at the city council meeting later on when
- 14:16Speaker 3: they try to fire that guy. But in the meantime,
- 14:19Speaker 3: a mistake has been made. And who's going to pay
- 14:22Speaker 3: for it? I don't know.
- 14:23Speaker 4: Not only are you saying they shouldn't dress up, you're
- 14:25Speaker 4: saying that.
- 14:26Speaker 3: We shouldn't put cops in the option to handle threats.
- 14:27Speaker 3: I'm saying that they don't dress up as police officers.
- 14:30Speaker 3: And you do give police officers the option to handle threats.
- 14:33Speaker 3: You don't have little tiny kids dressed up as cops
- 14:35Speaker 3: because people could get confused.
- 14:38Speaker 1: All right, 1-800-449-8686.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Let's go over to, I don't know which call. Let's
- 14:43Speaker 2: go to Maria on the Phil Henry Show.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Go ahead.
- 14:46Speaker 5: Yes, hi. I live in Miami, and I have an
- 14:48Speaker 5: 8-year-old who's going to be dressed as a police officer.
- 14:51Speaker 6: And he looks nothing like our officers here.
- 14:53Speaker 7: I mean, there's no chance in the world he's going
- 14:55Speaker 7: to be confused, and I think that's just ridiculous.
- 14:58Speaker 3: What kind of uniform is he dressed in?
- 15:00Speaker 5: He's a little, it's a little black, like a leotard
- 15:03Speaker 5: type thing, and he's got a little vest that says
- 15:05Speaker 5: police in green.
- 15:06Speaker 3: Right, that's very similar to South Miami Beach Police.
- 15:09Speaker 1: A leotard?
- 15:09Speaker 7: Yes, like a one-piece little leotard.
- 15:12Speaker 6: It doesn't have boots, it doesn't have.
- 15:13Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
- 15:14Speaker 7: No, I know that you're dressing yourself.
- 15:16Speaker 3: No, see, that is exactly, the South Miami Beach wear
- 15:19Speaker 3: a leotard underneath it.
- 15:21Speaker 1: The South Miami Beach Police wear a leotard.
- 15:23Speaker 3: What she's dressing her boy in could be mistaken, yes.
- 15:28Speaker 3: I think that's ridiculous.
- 15:29Speaker 5: I think that's just totally, I mean, he dressed up
- 15:31Speaker 5: on Sunday and nothing like it.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Now he goes to the door of a senior citizen,
- 15:36Speaker 3: a senior citizen who is frightened because some guy crawled
- 15:39Speaker 3: through her window and won't.
- 15:40Speaker 7: Get out of the bathroom.
- 15:41Speaker 5: He's going to be with my other little boy who's
- 15:43Speaker 5: three years old, and he's.
- 15:44Speaker 7: Going to be with a bunch of other kids who's.
- 15:45Speaker 5: A witch and who's, you know, other little characters, and
- 15:49Speaker 5: nobody's going to confuse.
- 15:50Speaker 3: Him for anything.
- 15:50Speaker 6: And if there was, God forbid, something that happened, my
- 15:53Speaker 6: son is not going to be going near any guns
- 15:56Speaker 6: because I'm going to be with him.
- 15:58Speaker 3: No, he's not going to be going near any guns.
- 16:00Speaker 3: But if a catastrophe occurs where the police come in,
- 16:03Speaker 3: the police may mistake him for one of their own.
- 16:06Speaker 3: I think that's absolutely ridiculous.
- 16:07Speaker 7: I don't think that would happen in America.
- 16:09Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now, with this, right now.
- 16:11Speaker 1: You're saying, Mr.
- 16:12Speaker 2: Bozell, that we're another time if the country wasn't having
- 16:16Speaker 2: an emergency.
- 16:17Speaker 3: I just think that the risk is too great. That's
- 16:19Speaker 3: exactly correct. If we weren't under a state of emergency,
- 16:22Speaker 3: it might be a different story. But the risk, I think,
- 16:24Speaker 3: is far too great for this kind of thing to happen.
- 16:28Speaker 1: All right, so your son's going to be dressed as
- 16:30Speaker 1: a cop, but he's going to be in tights. Is
- 16:31Speaker 1: that right, ma'am?
- 16:32Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it looks like a little, it.
- 16:34Speaker 5: Looks like a cartoon character. It doesn't look anything like
- 16:37Speaker 5: a police officer.
- 16:37Speaker 7: I think somebody's going to take him for a real officer.
- 16:39Speaker 7: It's got to be out of their mind.
- 16:40Speaker 3: Then how is anybody supposed to know he's a police officer?
- 16:44Speaker 6: He's got a little fake plastic bag.
- 16:46Speaker 3: And a little fake little bit of outdoors. I mean,
- 16:51Speaker 3: we as a country cannot afford to take the risk
- 16:52Speaker 3: right now.
- 16:54Speaker 1: A fake plastic badge.
- 16:55Speaker 7: I agree that this is a state of emergency, but
- 16:56Speaker 7: I think that's totally ridiculous.
- 16:58Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's going to mistake him for anything.
- 17:00Speaker 1: Thanks for your call. 1-800-449-8686. A plastic badge. A fake
- 17:04Speaker 1: plastic gun.
- 17:05Speaker 3: It's dark. It's night. You see lights. They bounce off
- 17:08Speaker 3: the badge. You think it's for real. They wear the
- 17:11Speaker 3: hat that looks just like the kind on Car 54,
- 17:14Speaker 3: where are you, whatever, with the black pants.
- 17:18Speaker 2: And what do you mean the South Miami Beach police
- 17:20Speaker 2: wear tights?
- 17:21Speaker 3: They do wear a form of a green leotard, yes, sir.
- 17:24Speaker 3: This is all I'm afraid of.
- 17:27Speaker 2: You know, I used to live in Miami and never
- 17:28Speaker 2: saw any cop wearing a leotard.
- 17:31Speaker 3: Well, I guess you haven't been around police. I mean,
- 17:33Speaker 3: I've studied police science.
- 17:36Speaker 1: Okay, 1-800-449-8686. We're talking here with Steve Bozell.
- 17:39Speaker 2: He is a homeowner in Corona, California, who believes that
- 17:43Speaker 2: the children wearing police uniforms, the children wearing firefighter uniforms,
- 17:49Speaker 2: and this kind of thing is only going to cause.
- 17:52Speaker 1: the uh.
- 17:52Speaker 2: confusion among senior citizens especially because they're gonna think that
- 17:56Speaker 2: these are real cops out there and uh... one of
- 17:59Speaker 2: the things that i think you you need to understand
- 18:01Speaker 2: mr bozell is this delusion meant could be a problem
- 18:05Speaker 2: a mental problem that other people have a right if
- 18:07Speaker 2: you're seeing of a full-size cop and it's only three
- 18:11Speaker 2: feet tall you've got the problem don't you think.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Well you know i'll tell you today's a right now
- 18:17Speaker 3: you want to say that i got a problem mister
- 18:19Speaker 3: you could have a lawsuit Okay, because when we.
- 18:21Speaker 2: Got a lawsuit, you're telling me the South Miami Beach
- 18:24Speaker 2: police dress in green tights, and you're seeing a six-foot-tall
- 18:27Speaker 2: Army Ranger when, in fact, it's some kid wetting himself
- 18:30Speaker 2: and crying to his mother.
- 18:32Speaker 1: Here is Dennis on the Phil Henry Show.
- 18:34Speaker 2: Hello.
- 18:34Speaker 3: How are you doing?
- 18:36Speaker 1: Yes, go ahead.
- 18:38Speaker 8: Yeah, I think this guy, you know, he's saying what's
- 18:41Speaker 8: best for the country and everything, but what's best for
- 18:43Speaker 8: the country is not to panic.
- 18:44Speaker 3: He's panicking. No, I'm just saying don't put the kids
- 18:49Speaker 3: into no police uniform is all I'm saying.
- 18:55Speaker 1: No, but it does sound like you're afraid.
- 18:56Speaker 3: I'm not afraid.
- 18:58Speaker 8: But you're very afraid.
- 19:00Speaker 3: No, I'm not. I'm just saying.
- 19:01Speaker 8: Three feet tall going up and knocking on the door
- 19:04Speaker 8: and saying trick-or-treat.
- 19:05Speaker 7: Somebody mistakes them for a cop and they don't need to.
- 19:07Speaker 3: Be answering their door. Like a senior citizen wouldn't think
- 19:10Speaker 3: that that's a cop?
- 19:11Speaker 8: If a senior citizen can make it to the door,
- 19:13Speaker 8: I think she could tell the difference between somebody the
- 19:15Speaker 8: size of her grandson and a real cop.
- 19:18Speaker 3: If a senior citizen could make it to the door.
- 19:20Speaker 3: These are people now, you understand, who go out and
- 19:24Speaker 3: they think they're going to the store and they wind
- 19:26Speaker 3: up in Montana. They get lost for days. Those are
- 19:30Speaker 3: the kind of people that aren't going to be leaving.
- 19:33Speaker 3: That's what I'm worried about. All I'm worried about is
- 19:35Speaker 3: the senior citizens thinking that they're going to wind up
- 19:38Speaker 3: in Montana.
- 19:40Speaker 2: And if they're going to wind up in Montana because
- 19:42Speaker 2: they have befuddlement, as you call it, or Alzheimer's disease,
- 19:45Speaker 2: they've got larger issues.
- 19:46Speaker 3: Okay?
- 19:46Speaker 2: Maybe the kids shouldn't be trick-or-treating at the senior citizen home.
- 19:50Speaker 2: I don't know. 1-800-449-8686. And the police uniforms that they've
- 19:55Speaker 2: got for kids and the firefighter uniforms and the Army
- 19:58Speaker 2: Ranger uniforms, as the lady just indicated, look absolutely nothing
- 20:02Speaker 2: like a real cop uniform. They've got plastic badges and
- 20:06Speaker 2: plastic guns. Unless, of course, you know, we're talking about
- 20:12Speaker 2: security guard. You know what you ought to do? Send
- 20:15Speaker 2: your kids out trick-or-treating dressed as security guards. Phil Hendry Show. 1-800-449-8686.
- 20:28Speaker 1: And now more on the Phil Hendry Show.
- 20:32Speaker 2: That was one of the.
- 20:34Speaker 3: Most horrible things that ever happened.
- 20:36Speaker 1: Your dog.
- 20:37Speaker 3: My dog was shot. That's right. I had asked for
- 20:41Speaker 3: help because we thought we had a burglar. A police
- 20:46Speaker 3: officer responded. It was actually from a costume party. It
- 20:49Speaker 3: was not a police officer at all. It was a
- 20:51Speaker 3: 10-year-old boy with a BB gun. And I said, go ahead,
- 20:55Speaker 3: just shoot.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Well, that's not your call to tell what a police
- 20:59Speaker 1: officer ought to do.
- 21:00Speaker 3: I know that, but because he wasn't a real police officer,
- 21:03Speaker 3: because he was just a kid, he went ahead and
- 21:06Speaker 3: followed my orders. And he had a BB gun.
- 21:08Speaker 1: Shot your dog with a BB?
- 21:09Speaker 3: Yes. This is what I'm talking about.
- 21:13Speaker 2: When you've got a really, excuse me, sir, stupid homeowner
- 21:17Speaker 2: who says, police officer, go shoot into the dark, and
- 21:19Speaker 2: your dog gets nailed with a BB gun that some
- 21:21Speaker 2: kid dressed as a cop has.
- 21:23Speaker 3: So you're blaming me?
- 21:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm blaming you.
- 21:27Speaker 2: You've got to know the difference between a cop and
- 21:29Speaker 2: a kid with a BB gun.
- 21:30Speaker 3: And even with the uniform?
- 21:32Speaker 1: Even with the uniform and a plastic gun. Here is...
- 21:37Speaker 1: You know, forgive me for yelling.
- 21:38Speaker 3: No, that's all right. I mean, you sound like everybody else.
- 21:40Speaker 3: My wife screams at me about this, but I will
- 21:43Speaker 3: not be, what do you call it? I will not be.
- 21:47Speaker 1: Dissuaded.
- 21:48Speaker 3: Dissuaded, right.
- 21:50Speaker 1: From your.
- 21:51Speaker 3: From my goal.
- 21:51Speaker 1: From your goal of having parents written up.
- 21:55Speaker 3: For impersonating a police officer.
- 21:57Speaker 1: Their kids.
- 21:58Speaker 3: Their kids.
- 22:00Speaker 2: I'm glad that I'm also providing your end of the
- 22:02Speaker 2: conversation here.
- 22:04Speaker 1: Okay, 1-800-449-8686. Lori, you're on the Phil Henry Show.
- 22:07Speaker 3: Go ahead.
- 22:09Speaker 7: Hi, I just want to address Mr.
- 22:10Speaker 5: Rifkin's comment about the children not wearing police uniforms.
- 22:15Speaker 7: My name is Bozell, ma'am.
- 22:17Speaker 3: My name is Bozell. It's not Rifkin, so you might
- 22:19Speaker 3: want to get my name right.
- 22:20Speaker 7: Okay, well, first off, you need to get your facts straight,
- 22:22Speaker 7: first off, sir. And second off, let me tell you something.
- 22:25Speaker 5: What I was throwing up, as well as kids today...
- 22:28Speaker 5: they really look forward to dressing up as their heroes.
- 22:30Speaker 5: You know, there's Superman, there's all kinds of little heroes
- 22:32Speaker 5: going on. And right now, our main heroes are our
- 22:35Speaker 5: firefighters and our police.
- 22:37Speaker 3: The real ones, not some fake ones. Exactly.
- 22:40Speaker 5: And I'm sorry, if you really thought that a 10-year-old son,
- 22:42Speaker 5: a 10-year-old child with a BB gun was a police officer...
- 22:46Speaker 5: Check your bifocals, okay? Second off, if you ever even
- 22:50Speaker 5: actually think that a police officer is going to take
- 22:52Speaker 5: your word for it and actually.
- 22:53Speaker 3: Shoot at a dog... It was the middle of a
- 22:55Speaker 3: national emergency ever since 9-11. It's been a national emergency situation.
- 23:00Speaker 2: So what happened on September the 11th has got you
- 23:02Speaker 2: seeing cops even when they're like kids?
- 23:05Speaker 3: What's wrong with going up to an Army Ranger and saying.
- 23:07Speaker 5: What exactly do you do when you walk into a 7-11?
- 23:09Speaker 5: Do you freak out and hit the floor because you
- 23:11Speaker 5: see some Iranian working? I mean, please.
- 23:14Speaker 7: Do you just avoid going.
- 23:15Speaker 5: And getting gas at a 7-Eleven or a Circle K?
- 23:18Speaker 3: What? I don't understand what you're saying.
- 23:21Speaker 1: I didn't get it either. What did you say, ma'am?
- 23:23Speaker 1: Hit the floor about what?
- 23:24Speaker 5: I said, what do you do when you go to
- 23:25Speaker 5: get gas? Do you just avoid all Circle Ks and 7-Elevens?
- 23:29Speaker 5: And when you see an Iranian or a Pakistani or something,
- 23:31Speaker 5: you just don't stop there?
- 23:34Speaker 3: Why would I do that?
- 23:36Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. You're scared of cops. I didn't think.
- 23:38Speaker 7: I'm not scared of cops.
- 23:40Speaker 3: I'm scared of fake... I'm scared of fake cops being
- 23:42Speaker 3: mixed all together with the smaller ones. Look, if you've
- 23:46Speaker 3: got a.
- 23:46Speaker 5: You're scared of cops, but you're not.
- 23:49Speaker 3: Scared of people from, you know, let's say, Iran, Iraq.
- 23:51Speaker 3: You're from Louisiana, right?
- 23:53Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I am.
- 23:54Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that's right. That's where you shot that guy
- 23:55Speaker 3: who was dressed as a disco Saturday night guy.
- 23:58Speaker 1: Now, forget that, okay? That was a long time ago.
- 24:00Speaker 3: Well, yeah. Some guy dressed in a disco uniform.
- 24:03Speaker 5: And I'm sorry, sir, and where are you from?
- 24:06Speaker 3: Where am I from? California?
- 24:08Speaker 5: Yeah, and you've got kids shooting dogs with BB guns?
- 24:11Speaker 3: I thought he was a cop.
- 24:12Speaker 5: And you're telling a kid.
- 24:13Speaker 1: To shoot a dog with a BB gun?
- 24:15Speaker 2: How tall was the kid that you thought was a cop?
- 24:17Speaker 3: About 4'2.
- 24:19Speaker 2: 4'2?
- 24:20Speaker 1: I've never seen a 4'2 cop.
- 24:22Speaker 3: Well, you may never have seen a 4'2 cop. That
- 24:25Speaker 3: don't mean they're not hiring him.
- 24:26Speaker 1: In Corona?
- 24:27Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, go ahead and laugh, man. I think it's
- 24:31Speaker 3: so damn funny, but I can tell you right now,
- 24:33Speaker 3: He could have been working undercover.
- 24:35Speaker 7: Well, obviously me and the rest of the U.S.
- 24:36Speaker 3: Think so. He could have been working undercover. Wait a second.
- 24:37Speaker 7: Because even your own wife tells.
- 24:38Speaker 6: You this is ludicrous.
- 24:40Speaker 3: My wife doesn't know how to protect me.
- 24:41Speaker 1: What do you mean working undercover?
- 24:43Speaker 3: What?
- 24:43Speaker 1: What do you mean he could have been working undercover?
- 24:46Speaker 3: Corona, California is well known. We have one of the
- 24:48Speaker 3: largest midget communities in the country. That's A. B, you
- 24:52Speaker 3: see some midget, like a three-year-old, like say a five-year-old
- 24:55Speaker 3: kid that's four foot two, dressed in a plaid shirt and,
- 24:59Speaker 3: you know, like work boots.
- 25:00Speaker 1: You automatically think it's an undercover midget cop.
- 25:04Speaker 3: In this town, yes. You know something? My wife can
- 25:09Speaker 3: laugh at me, but I don't think I like any
- 25:10Speaker 3: other woman doing it.
- 25:12Speaker 7: Well, I'm very sorry, sir, but I've got to tell
- 25:13Speaker 7: you something.
- 25:14Speaker 5: I'm sitting around here with a lot of other women,
- 25:16Speaker 5: and we're all laughing at you, along with several other men.
- 25:19Speaker 3: Okay, that's Dirty Pool. All right, that's Dirty Pool. That's
- 25:22Speaker 3: dirty pooling. Well, look at me.
- 25:23Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a large midget community.
- 25:25Speaker 7: I'm really trying to understand the mentality of a grown
- 25:27Speaker 7: man who is telling.
- 25:29Speaker 5: A 4'2, 10-year-old to shoot a baby gun at a dog.
- 25:32Speaker 5: And you want me to not laugh?
- 25:34Speaker 3: I thought it was an undercover midget.
- 25:37Speaker 1: You thought it was an undercover midget.
- 25:39Speaker 3: You know, Senator Lamb, I have worked for my community.
- 25:43Speaker 3: I've been an outstanding member of our city council four
- 25:46Speaker 3: years running. I have a son and I have a daughter.
- 25:49Speaker 3: And I want them to be safe on Halloween night.
- 25:51Speaker 3: My son gets dressed up as a cop. He gets
- 25:53Speaker 3: handed a riot gun. He's going to do some damage.
- 25:56Speaker 3: And I hope it ain't on your.
- 26:02Speaker 2: Your son gets handed a riot gun by any police officer,
- 26:05Speaker 2: then that cop.
- 26:06Speaker 1: Needs to be dismissed from the force.
- 26:09Speaker 2: Because I cannot imagine any officer with any ounce of
- 26:13Speaker 2: brains doing that.
- 26:14Speaker 1: Here is Donato on the Phil Henry Show.
- 26:16Speaker 3: Hello. Hello.
- 26:18Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
- 26:19Speaker 7: Hi, how are you?
- 26:20Speaker 6: I would like to tell these gentlemen, you know, it's
- 26:24Speaker 6: important what you're saying, the safety of the kids and
- 26:26Speaker 6: the safety of the community. What you're doing right now
- 26:29Speaker 6: pretty much is terrorizing the whole entire community.
- 26:32Speaker 3: How am I doing that?
- 26:34Speaker 6: Wait a minute. Allow me to share something with you, okay?
- 26:37Speaker 6: I grew up in El Salvador where we had terrorism
- 26:40Speaker 6: day in and day out. One of the things you
- 26:44Speaker 6: cannot do, okay, is show these men or all these
- 26:48Speaker 6: people that you're scared, and that's what you're doing right now.
- 26:51Speaker 6: Here's another thing.
- 26:54Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with you, Donato.
- 26:55Speaker 6: You're just down-ground scared. We've got to show these people
- 26:58Speaker 6: that we're bigger, we're smarter, and we're standing together.
- 27:02Speaker 1: I don't think he thinks that these cops are... I'm
- 27:03Speaker 1: going to take my kids.
- 27:04Speaker 6: Out trick-or-treating, whether you like it or not. And I've
- 27:06Speaker 6: got to tell you something. If I'm going to confuse
- 27:08Speaker 6: a three-, four-, five-year-old kid for a cop, I've got
- 27:11Speaker 6: a problem. I need to put glasses on.
- 27:14Speaker 3: Well, wait a second. I ain't saying the kids shouldn't
- 27:18Speaker 3: go out trick-or-treating. Go out dressed up in a clown
- 27:21Speaker 3: costume or go out dressed up in a hobo outfit,
- 27:24Speaker 3: or you could go up dressed up in, like, anything you.
- 27:27Speaker 1: Want to be.
- 27:28Speaker 3: You could be an airline. What about a travel agent?
- 27:31Speaker 6: Those are some very brave people.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Dressed as a what?
- 27:35Speaker 3: You could have your child go out dressed as a
- 27:36Speaker 3: travel agent.
- 27:37Speaker 7: Wait a minute. Here's a better one. Dressed as a
- 27:40Speaker 7: travel agent with a little name tag that says Ridge?
- 27:44Speaker 3: Yeah. What?
- 27:46Speaker 6: I say, can you dress your kid.
- 27:47Speaker 3: As a terrorist? I would never do that in a
- 27:51Speaker 3: million billion years, dressed by a child as a terrorist.
- 27:54Speaker 6: You're missing the whole point. Terrorism uses the element of
- 27:57Speaker 6: surprise at all given times. It doesn't matter whether they're
- 28:01Speaker 6: dressing as cops, whether they're dressing as a nurse. It
- 28:04Speaker 6: doesn't matter what they dress as. Right now, you're categorizing
- 28:07Speaker 6: the cops in the fire department.
- 28:09Speaker 3: You know what would be funny?
- 28:10Speaker 6: People have to dress like them because that could be
- 28:12Speaker 6: the problem.
- 28:13Speaker 3: You know what would be funny?
- 28:14Speaker 6: They're going to strike us anything.
- 28:17Speaker 3: What's he talking about? I'm not worried about no terrorists.
- 28:19Speaker 3: I'm worried about a midget kid taking a gun and
- 28:21Speaker 3: blowing my dog into hell and back. What are you
- 28:24Speaker 3: talking about?
- 28:24Speaker 1: Wait a second. What are you talking about?
- 28:26Speaker 3: Look, here's what I suggested that my son go as.
- 28:28Speaker 3: Here is a costume that I made up for my son.
- 28:31Speaker 3: I went to a science book, and I got a
- 28:34Speaker 3: blowed-up picture of an anthrax bacteria. And I made a
- 28:37Speaker 3: costume for him. And he could go around.
- 28:39Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
- 28:41Speaker 3: Go door-to-door dressed as an anthrax bacteria.
- 28:45Speaker 1: Door-to-door dressed as an anthrax bacteria?
- 28:48Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very relevant, and it won't scare nobody. Well,
- 28:52Speaker 3: it might.
- 28:53Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
- 28:53Speaker 2: It might scare me. I see an anthrax bacteria. I'm
- 28:56Speaker 2: going to have to call the CDC. I wouldn't give
- 28:58Speaker 2: it any candy.
- 28:59Speaker 3: You would not give it any candy?
- 29:01Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't give an anthrax bacteria, even if it
- 29:04Speaker 2: was your kid dressed as one, candy.
- 29:07Speaker 3: Well, I can understand that.
- 29:09Speaker 6: You just said right now that you are someone important
- 29:14Speaker 6: in your community. And you have this title, this and
- 29:17Speaker 6: the other thing. Why don't you use all the positive
- 29:20Speaker 6: energy and all the titles that you have obtained in
- 29:22Speaker 6: the past to create something positive? Like telling people, don't
- 29:26Speaker 6: be afraid of these jerks who are making this beautiful
- 29:29Speaker 6: country become something into nothing. Why are you being part
- 29:33Speaker 6: of that?
- 29:35Speaker 7: You're saying that.
- 29:37Speaker 6: People have to dress as cops. You're only making these
- 29:40Speaker 6: people believe that fear has come.
- 29:42Speaker 3: To this country.
- 29:43Speaker 7: You know what?
- 29:44Speaker 3: Screw them.
- 29:44Speaker 6: I'm going to take my kids out.
- 29:46Speaker 7: I'm going to make the best of it. Why? I'm
- 29:48Speaker 7: not even.
- 29:49Speaker 6: I wasn't even born here.
- 29:50Speaker 7: And I'm going to say something.
- 29:52Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck. If a three-foot anthrax bacteria
- 29:57Speaker 3: came to your door for candy, would you... What was that?
- 30:01Speaker 3: If a kid dressed as a three-foot-high anthrax bacteria come
- 30:05Speaker 3: to your door, would you give him candy or would
- 30:07Speaker 3: you say get away?
- 30:09Speaker 6: Okay, so if a plane will hit you right now
- 30:11Speaker 6: in the head, what would you say? There was odds
- 30:13Speaker 6: that just happened? Somebody pranked it. The bottom line is
- 30:16Speaker 6: it's a chance you've got to take.
- 30:18Speaker 3: Right, it's a chance you've got to take. I'd give
- 30:20Speaker 3: him anthrax bacteria candy. I'd take the shot. I'd go
- 30:23Speaker 3: ahead and take the shot that it wasn't going to
- 30:25Speaker 3: get up my nose.
- 30:26Speaker 6: All right, okay, we're... Wait a minute, what you're saying
- 30:28Speaker 6: to me makes no sense.
- 30:28Speaker 7: You know why? Because you can't... No, it's not making sense.
- 30:32Speaker 6: Every single day.
- 30:34Speaker 3: And you're going up his nose.
- 30:36Speaker 1: No, it isn't going to go up your nose. You're
- 30:37Speaker 1: absolutely right. Thank you for your call.
- 30:40Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I got more to say.
- 30:42Speaker 1: No, we're all done with you, pal.
- 30:53Speaker 3: Thank you.