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10/20/26 | What Can We Learn From Paris, Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, Walter Hudson Join · The Jon Justice Show: Presented by Center of the American Experiment

• 0:05
  SPEAKER_05: It's unclear how authorities obtained that DNA.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_05: We're also told investigators have her personal passport.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_05: Authorities tell Fox they believe Omar is still in the U.S.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_05: The Justice and Homeland Security Departments declined to comment, citing the ongoing probe.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_05: Congresswoman Omar has not been charged with any crime as of yet, but we have been covering this investigation as it's unfolded.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_05: Up next, an update on the search.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_24: Good morning, and I love your show.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_31: The best pilot awake in the business.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_15: The latest from the AI Overlords, although I don't know what he calls his AI, but that was uh Ilhan, Queen of the Scandals.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_15: It is the John Justice show for a Tuesday, presented by American Experiment.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_15: I'm glad you're with us once again.
• 1:26
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• 1:34
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• 1:49
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• 1:58
  SPEAKER_15: Busy show for a uh Tuesday.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_15: We had a governor's debate.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_15: It wasn't really a debate.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_15: This is not helping to change my mind about the oh, how do I want to word it?
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_15: Um, the lack of a need for debates anymore.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_15: This is like a weird afternoon economic forum.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_15: Now, there will be a more proper debate, doing nothing with my fingers, between the gubernatorial candidates.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_15: I guess I should probably mention that.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_15: Uh it was Amy Clobishar and Lisa Damuth yesterday at this afternoon, again, economic forum.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_15: They're just sitting there up on stage with a table.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_15: Very similar to what happened, even less formal than the debate that took place uh between uh Peggy Flanagan and Michelle Tefoya uh last uh last week.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_15: So, and again, another one that wasn't really a needle mover.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_15: I have audio to share coming up after seven o'clock.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, and you know, further thoughts.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_15: Matt Dean, policy fellow here at American Experiment, has a fantastic piece up this morning at AmericanExperiment.org regarding uh Amy, Amy Klobuchar.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_15: I suspect that the reason why it was a dull debate yesterday, and again, I use that term loosely based off of how the whole thing was conducted.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_15: I imagine that they're probably holding off on their best material until the proper evening debate that takes place between now and election day.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_15: What are we, 14 days out, 15 days out now?
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_15: So um, we'll get into that.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, Walter Hudson, state representative, first appearance on the John Justice show, presented by American Experiments.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_15: So, this is his first time joining us on the comfy couch here in the American Experiment Studios.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, really looking forward to talking with uh Walter.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_15: It's been far too long since we've had him on the show.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_15: Apparently, there are new tactics that are being um deployed to combat the Somali gang war taking place and some trepidation over whether or not those uh new tactics are going to work.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_15: I will have details.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_15: We'll get to your thoughts, of course, on the blaster line 651-964-0294.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_15: If you want to leave us a voice or a text message, and we will get into the latest regarding the uh uh investigation into Ilhan Omar.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_15: So uh first off, good morning to uh producer Devin.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_15: It's good to see you this morning, sir.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_15: Good morning.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_15: Thanks so much for uh coming in, always appreciate it.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_15: Pushing our buttons, producing the show today, getting everything uh set up for our in-uh studio, uh in studio guests uh this morning.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_15: Um let's go.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_15: So Ilhan Omar, and so this is what I wanted to mention.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, because we're gonna get into this a little bit this hour.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_15: We do have David Gartenstein Ross joining us at the bottom of the hour to talk artificial intelligence.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_15: My bad.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_15: I didn't put him on my little my little cheat sheet of things that are happening on the show this morning.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_15: So uh David will be joining us in less than a half hour from now.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_15: So if you have any artificial intelligence related questions for our counter or for our uh AI expert.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_15: I almost went back to the counterintelligence expert there.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_15: I know, a little slip, sorry.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_15: It's Tuesday.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_15: I was up later than I should have been last night.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_15: I'll explain here in just uh just a moment.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_15: So uh David will join us at the bottom of the hour.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_15: Get your questions in now.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_15: John.justice at american experiment.org or the blaster line, uh, your artificial intelligence queries, 651 at 964-0294.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_15: So I thought I made a prediction heading into uh the weekend that there would be big news to drop for Ilhan Omar, and uh I was wrong.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_15: Uh there wasn't a lot that broke over the weekend.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_15: I think the uh the dumpster diving uh aspect of the investigation broke over the weekend.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_15: Uh now, as you heard just a moment ago from Brett Bear and Fox News, uh the authorities have said that they officially have Ilhan Omar's uh DNA.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_15: Now, what this means, we don't know yet.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_15: We're still speculating.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, we shouldn't know what was in the uh search warrant that the DC judge signed off on last week.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_15: We should know what's in that either tomorrow or Thursday.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_15: Um, but we will give you the latest of what this might mean for Ilhan's future.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_15: And specifically, the issue of her marrying her brother or her father and his lack of being a naturalized citizen, of which apparently there's no evidence of, that could be what unravels all of this.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_15: Like that could be the starting point for everything that transpires afterwards.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_15: And as I've been mentioning, there's so many parallels to different issues, whether it's the fraud issue that we've been uh subjected to here in Minnesota, whether it's illegal immigration, what happens when somebody comes into the country illegally?
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_15: You start off with this baseline of illegality, and then everything you do moving forward is impacted by that.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_15: There's a very similar thing possibly taking place right now when it comes to Ilhan Omar that may all stem from the one major controversy that we've been talking about for years.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_15: So last night I got so I was supposed to be on Newsmax after the show today.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_15: Okay, so let me back up here.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_15: Why I was up late last night.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_15: So I was supposed to be on Newsmax after the show today, and then they reached out and they wanted me to do the hit.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_15: It was really close to after the show ended at nine o'clock.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_15: And I was like, yeah, I don't think I can get everything switched over in time to make it on the show because they usually like to have you connected at least 10 minutes earlier, and it just, you know, the way that we had the studio set up in order to facilitate that, it's I won't get into the details.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_15: It's just it would be a bit of a difficult situation to make that transition as opposed to me being at home where I usually do these hits.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_15: Um they said, okay, we'll get you on again soon, no worries.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_15: Well, then, like within a half hour, I got another request to go on Rob Schmidt's show on Newsmax last night.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_15: So I did that as I was heading off to uh bed.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_15: And it's so funny because I don't sometimes I don't know who I'm gonna be paired with.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_15: If it's just me or if I'm paired with somebody else.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_15: Like the last time I was paired with um Liz Collin from Alpha News, which was cool.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_15: So we go to do the hit, we go live, and uh pops on the screen uh Representative Kristen Robbins.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_15: I was like, oh hey, look at that.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_15: Good evening.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_15: It was just kind of a funny moment.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_15: So I ended up being uh, I was pretty pleased on the hit.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_15: My apologies to the individuals who had reached out.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_15: They were watching the show.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_15: They're like, dude, you didn't tell us you were gonna be on.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_15: I'm just watching Newsmax, and suddenly your big old fat mug pops up on the TV.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_15: I said, Yeah, it was kind of a kind of a late uh late request.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_15: So, all right, let's get into some of the news of the day, including um something big from Mike Lindell.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_15: It gives some credit where credit is due on this one.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_15: I'll share this with you in a moment, but first let's go to the blaster line uh 651-964-0294.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_15: This came in from a friend of the show, Eric overnight.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_28: Hey John, Eric from Tennessee.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_28: I'm gonna try this again.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_28: Uh, I don't know if anyone's paying attention to what's going on in Paris right now, other than the fact that portions of the city are burning.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_28: They've closed the loo because of the quote student protest, unquote.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_28: And the department for the travel advisory is in place.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_28: The NFL is still planning to allow the 53 Steelers and the New Orleans things to play a game in Paris on this coming weekend.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_28: Should we start taking bets on when that game gets canceled before move?
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_15: So this falls in line with that ancillary commentary that I had yesterday.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_15: And I still have not gotten an I an answer to this, mostly because I didn't go looking for it yesterday, and I should have.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_15: But as I've talked about many times on the show, the quick example would be during the George Floyd riots, if you were watching from outside the state, the coverage on, you know, on the news.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_15: Or during Operation Metro Surge, that's probably the better, more recent example.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_15: If you were following, yeah, actually that's a much better example.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_15: If you were following outside of Minnesota Operation Metro Surge, you would have been given um the perspective that it the entirety of the city of Minneapolis was under siege by ICE agents, and all the streets were filled with these on-the-street insurrectionist protesters as they were going and pushing back on ICE and their lawful law enforcement.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_15: That wasn't the case.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_15: These were uh isolated incidents that could cover a relatively wide area, but they didn't, it didn't encapsulate the entirety of the city.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_15: And the same thing happened when it came to the George Floyd riots.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_15: You would have thought the whole of many uh of of uh of Minneapolis was burning to the ground when really it was just specific portions of the city.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_15: You could still navigate other parts of the city and avoid all of the unrest.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_15: So my guess is that's what's happening in in Europe right now.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_15: My guess is that this is what's happening in France, and we'll talk about this later on in the show because there are fascinating parallels.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_15: As I've done a deeper dive into how all of this started, we covered this yesterday on the show, but I have more information to share, and it's a part of the conversation that we'll have with Representative Walter Hudson when he joins us in studio coming up uh this morning at 7:30.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_15: But I imagine that these instances of violence and unrest are in particular areas, and probably where the stadium is located is apart from that, and you can travel to and from that region.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_15: For example, there is a clip that's gone viral if you've seen it.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_15: It's not AI, at least as far as I know.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_15: I did check it, but you know, you never know if it hadn't been community noted yet.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_15: But there's a there's a video of a couple sitting outside of sort of your typical Paris France cafe enjoying, you know, a tasty beverage, while a block away you can see stuff on fire.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_15: I mean, the the juxtaposition was clear as day.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_15: But again, to my point, I think that might be what we're looking at.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_15: Now, that being said, if these if the violence ends up moving closer, which could absolutely happen if the you know agitators on the street are looking to gain more attention, and that what that's what this is about.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_15: This is not about student-led protests.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_15: Even at the beginning, while that was the focus, I still don't buy that the students who started protesting that initially launched all of this unrest in France were specifically motivated by the things that they were motivated by.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_15: I think that they were motivated by outside leftist, Marxist, communist individuals who used the what the government has done to France, much in the same way of what Democrats have done here in Minnesota, to their advantage, and just came up with excuses to begin to start this protesting.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_15: So we will discuss this further uh later on uh in the show.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_15: Let's get back to some more of your thoughts from the blaster line this morning.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_17: Hey John, I agree with you with those debates.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_17: Uh I wonder if DeV couldn't come up with some sort of game simulation from politicians.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_17: I would watch Politicians with a job.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_17: Try to do the scenario versus your opponent.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_15: Let's go here regarding Ilhan Omar.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_18: A couple sources yesterday were reporting in the Ilhan Omar case is that they are gathering DNA to try to prove or disprove the relationship between all the family members.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_18: Right.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_18: Because they could be part of sex trafficking or some other kind of trafficking.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_15: I haven't heard that other aspect of it, and I'm going to I'm I'm gonna stop short of going into those further allegations because I haven't seen any official information regarding anything related to trafficking.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_15: There's a lot of individuals that are taking what we know so far about the investigation, and then they are extrapolating out based off of really flimsy information.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_15: And I'm hesitant to go there yet.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_15: If it turns out that that is the case, then I'll certainly be talking about it.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_15: But uh, as it relates to what we know sort of officially and can properly go and extrapolate on, I'm not ready to go down a path of any sort of, you know, trafficking of anybody because I have not seen that.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_15: So, but again, I'll wait.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_15: I appreciate the comments, uh, but we'll wait to see um what unfolds.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_15: And I think we're gonna know a lot more in the coming days.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_15: It seems like now that we're into the week, based off of what we'll report and talk about later on in the show, um, of the new information of what they could be looking into, uh, we'll have some uh we'll have some information uh to share later on this week with a lot more uh details.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_15: All right, coming up, uh Mike Lindell endorses Lisa Damath for governor, and this is exactly what he should do.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_15: And I'm gonna give credit where credit is due on this because I had made a comment after the election when Mike Lindell was challenging the results of the election that this is exactly what should happen, what I will share with you coming up in just a moment.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_15: And perhaps I was wrong in terms of the timing, and this is actually better timing for Mike Lindell to go and endorse Lisa Damath for governor.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_15: I will uh share with you the details.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_15: I do want to get to a little bit more of Ilhan Omar before we talk with uh David Gartenstein Ross coming up and your AI-related questions for David, you can call the blaster line 651-964-0294 to get those questions in.
• 16:07
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• 18:19
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• 18:25
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• 19:51
  SPEAKER_15: Here on the John Justice Show presented by American Experiment, we will get into that gubernatorial debate forum between uh Amy Klobishar and uh Lisa Damath coming up just after seven o'clock.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_15: We'll have audio to share your thoughts as well.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_15: My pillow founder and former gubernatorial candidate, Mike Lindell, will support GOP nominee Lisa Damath and other Republicans running for office.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_15: And Lindell urged his supporters to follow suit.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_15: I will give credit where credit is due.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_15: I said that this is what Mike Lindell needed to do when he lost the primary, as opposed to going and contesting the election, and he still is questioning things, and that's fine.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_15: But probably the timing is better now, I'll be honest.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_15: With only 14 days until the election day arrives, uh considering there were people that were more than likely going to go and sit out this election who support Mike Lindell because he had that kind of passion behind his supporters, he only lost uh to Damuth by 45,000 votes.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_15: So he had a significant showing in the primary.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_15: And so for him to go and throw his endorsement and tell individuals to go support Lisa Damath with this amount of time left between now and election day, again, the timing was probably better than if he had done it right afterwards.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, you know, or it may just be a wash.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_15: But this is exactly what Mike Lindell was supposed to do.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_15: And so I'm really I was, you know, I was pleased to see that he made the right decision for Republicans on this.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_15: Lindell told the Minnesota Star Tribune yesterday that he's endorsing Damuth and all the Republican candidates in November's midterm election because Minnesota needs to get rid of these crooked Democrats that are in power in Minnesota that have ruined our state.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_15: And I know that Lindell is close to Trump, so I can't help but wonder if whether or not Trump maybe had a hand in this.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_15: Maybe there was a conversation between the two.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_15: Lindell also announced plans to sue the voting machine companies ES, Hart Verity, and Dominion Voting Systems, which is now called Liberty Vote, before this year's election to promote election security.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_15: Lindell said that Minnesota could lead the nation with a hand counted paper ballot, alleging that he had.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_15: Data obtained through the Freedom of Information Act that shows all kinds of uh anomalies that are impossible if it wasn't for computers.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_15: So again, giving credit where credit is due.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_15: This is what I said that he should have done after the primary.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_15: I am totally fine with the fact that he waited until now, relating to the impact it could have for Republicans in this uh election.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_15: So, you know, hey, good move on on his part to go and do the, you know, to man up and do the right thing.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_15: And it and like I said, he can do both.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_15: He can still go and support the GOP slate of candidates, and he can continue to question the validity of the security of our of our elections.
• 22:41
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• 22:45
  SPEAKER_15: Okay, let's go here.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_15: Um, again, for those of us that have just joined the show, I did share this right as we kick the show off, but let me go ahead and play you just a quick clip from Fox News and Brett Bear yesterday on the latest regarding Ilhan Omar.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_05: Of DNA of Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_05: It's unclear how authorities obtained that DNA.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_05: We're also told investigators have her personal passport.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_05: Authorities tell Fox they believe Omar is still in the U.S.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_05: The Justice and Homeland Security Departments declined to comment, citing the ongoing probe.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_05: Congresswoman Omar has not been charged with any crime as of yet, but we have been covering this investigation as it's unfolded.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_15: Up next, an update on the has popped up also overnight, is questions surrounding Ilhan Omar's recent husband, Tim Minette, and this winery that she and Ilhan owned.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_15: We talked about this last week.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_15: You had, I believe it was Benny Johnson who went to the website to for the wine company, the winery that's owned by Tim Minette and Ilhan Omar.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_15: And there was no way to go and purchase any of the of the wine.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_15: There was nothing on the website where you can go and purchase any of it.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_15: Well, now it's kind of gotten even bigger in terms of the issue.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_15: Representative Ilhan Omar and her husband's winery was shut down for fraud after they reportedly sold investors barrels of wine with nothing inside.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_15: This is according to Representative James Comer.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_15: Back in February, after reviewing financial disclosures filed by Omar, Representative Comer sent a letter to Omar's husband questioning how the E Street Crew LLC and Roselake Capital LLC went from being worth$51,000 in 2023 up to$30 million in 2024.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_15: It all has that fraud Minnesota vibe to it, doesn't it?
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_15: Comer at the time said the discrepancy was very concerning, noting how California's winery and venture capital firm increased so dramatically in value only after a year reporting very limited assets.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_15: A couple of months later, in April, the winery reportedly shut down operations.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_15: Now, what we'll get into next hour is I have a Fox 9 report going back to 2024 and the 2024 election when Ilhan Omar was running against Don Samuels and controversy erupted regarding Tim Manette back then.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_15: All of this points to something that again we'll get into later on in the show.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_15: But it's the fact that so we all know so much of what is being speculated on right now regarding Ilhan Omar and her potential gaming of the immigration system here in America to gain citizenship, has been well documented for years.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_15: But really, it's just because nobody has had the will and desire to move forward to prosecute anybody or do further investigating.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_15: That's what's happening now.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_15: And so while you know, there are those on the left that want to dismiss this.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_15: Oh, this was covered a long time ago.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_15: This was already talked about.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, it was talked about.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, people like Scott Johnson over a power line and others did the legwork.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_15: Bill Gallon here at American Experiment getting into the details of potential discrepancies in Ilhan Omar's history.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_15: It's just nobody bothered to go and do anything about it.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_15: Well, now people are going and doing things about it.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_15: Here's a little of uh James Comer, um the House Oversight Committee Chairman talking with uh Fox News.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_30: What do we know about the search warrant and the predicate crime?
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_47: Well, I can tell you from our initial investigation of Omar and her financial disclosure form uh that there are multiple fronts where you could get a uh search warrant issued.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_47: Uh first of all, not only was there a huge discrepancy in the financial disclosure form, there was the winery that was the big uh base of her$25 million uh listing on her financial disclosure form.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_47: That winery uh has, according to the press, uh been shut down because of fraud.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_47: They were apparently selling investors barrels of wine to be aged, but there was nothing in the barrels.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_47: That's kind of happened in Kentucky with some uh fly by night bourbon distilleries, too.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_47: So I'm very familiar with that.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_47: But also with she's right in the middle of all of the Somali fraud with with the earmarks that she proposed.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_47: Uh they were giv they were going to go to groups that were right in the thick of all the Somali fraud, all the Medicaid and welfare fraud in Somali in uh in Minneapolis, as well as her sister.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_47: Her sister was involved in some of these frauds, reportedly$20 million uh worth of fraud uh from her sister.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_47: So uh then you added to the fact that something that I didn't know till till uh it came out in the press that she may have lied on her age when she came to the United States.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_47: We know about her brother in that situation, but if she lied on her age, uh there are four or five different angles where you could uh obtain a search warrant.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_47: And I want to add, Trey, that search warrant was approved by a judge that was appointed, I believe, by Obama, but was a a donor to many Democrat presidential candidates.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_47: So this wasn't a Republican judge, this was a Democrat judge, and as you said in your monologue, this was given within 60 days of an election, which means it has to be 100% uh lawful for that to happen.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_15: And again, coming up uh next hour, we are going to uh dive further into this.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_15: I want to share with you uh that uh report uh from uh Fox Nine again uh back in the twenty twenty-four election when the issue of Tim Minette was making headlines, but nobody moved forward and did anything about it.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_15: Well, now, as I mentioned, the Trump administration is doing something about it.
• 28:35
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• 31:31
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• 31:35
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• 31:39
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• 32:18
  SPEAKER_15: Joining us now, the CEO of Expert Theory, friend of the show, David Gartenstein-Ross.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_15: Good morning, David.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_15: How are we doing this morning, sir?
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_14: Doing great, John.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_14: It's good to join you as usual.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_15: You know, we've talked a lot about um, and I and honestly, David, this was my instinctive reaction, so I don't know if there's any pairing of what I'm about to mention.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_15: But you and I have talked a lot about artificial intelligence, what it's going to mean for the workforce, for humanity in the future, the potential of a, you know, a need for universal basic income.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, Elon Musk has talked a lot about this over the years.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_15: Do you think that this move by the Anthropics leader in Elon is a move towards something like that?
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_15: Or do you think it's it's separate from that mindset?
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_14: No, I think it's exactly a move towards something like that.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_14: And it's a move towards something like that with companies leading rather than government mandate leading.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_14: That's at least what seems to be philosophically going on.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_14: Uh, there also is kind of a number of interesting questions embedded there.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_14: Um, you know, for example, uh Anthropic and Elon Musk uh tend to have very different political perspectives.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_14: So I'm guessing that there is a different signal behind the move in both cases.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_14: But if you look at the AI industry as a whole, this is a world-leading industry that is absolutely ballooned in value in the United States, and the public has turned against it.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_14: It's a really interesting dynamic.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_14: And so I think both of these moves uh speak to slightly different things.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_14: Obviously, SpaceX is not primarily an AI company.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_14: On Anthropic's part, it's the company asks answering the question of number one, what do we do about job disruptions that AI is bringing?
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_14: And number two, like, how do you allow a large amount of other people to share in the value being created by the company?
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_14: Um, in Elon Musk's case with SpaceX, it's something a little bit different, but I think it speaks to the same issue that ultimately he's trying to show that with his massively growing wealth, that everyone can benefit from him as an entrepreneur that's able to create great amounts of value.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_15: If you have uh questions for David Gartenstein Ross, you can get those in.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_15: John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org if you'd like to uh email, or of course, you can leave us a voice or text uh blast and we will get to those coming up.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_15: We actually have a uh a couple of questions that have already rolled uh rolled in, and we'll see if we get to the topics that uh you and I uh shared ahead of our conversation.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_15: Before we do that, though, uh David, I have to assume that you saw the Tesla Roadster uh demonstration uh that uh that took place.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_14: Absolutely.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_15: What were your uh what are your thoughts on it?
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_15: What was your instinctive reaction to to watching all that?
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_15: I'll tell you, I was blown, I was blown away.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_15: I had no expectation or I had no idea they were even doing this.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_15: And Logan, my son, had sent me a text overnight because I'd gone to bed, and I didn't even know what I was looking at.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_15: I thought I was looking at AI until I saw all the coverage.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_15: But I'm really curious to sort of get your your thoughts on what was displayed.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_14: No, uh similar.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_14: Tesla for a while has been making features that I that kind of blow me away, right?
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_14: And this was uh another level, but even the current power of the self-driving Tesla, which has been around for a while, is beyond what I'd expected when I first wrote in one uh not too long ago.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_14: Um so the answer is yeah, like Tesla is doing absolutely amazing things.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_15: It is a I and just as a side note, we'll get right into these questions.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_15: It really is, as I spend more time working with Chat GPT, um, you know, I use this term a lot on a number of different things, but it's most appropriate.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_15: It really is a game changer.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_15: Like I'm finding myself actually on the net less using chat GPT because it can handle so much of what I go on the internet to look for when it comes to, you know, whether it's prep for the show, which I'm utilizing it for now, or whether it's home improvement uh projects.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_15: You know, it's just in as more people adopt to it, you know, you're gonna see individuals and the way that we use the internet uh change dramatically.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_15: I don't think a lot of people realize that to V.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_14: 100%.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_14: Um definitely the companies realize that, right?
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_14: This is something that Google has realized for a while, that its fundamental business model is threatened by the fact that people will look to AI uh more and more as their go-to for finding information.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_14: And I think a lot of people are still just scratching the surface of what it can be, right?
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_14: One of the things AI is great at is voice mode.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_14: Um, rather than you know, typing with it, you can have a conversation.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_14: And so, as you're talking about home improvement, for example, you can work on a home improvement proje project and ask it step by step in conversation what you should be doing, and it can guide you through step by step.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_14: You know, when I went to Japan this summer with my family, uh obviously I can't read Japanese and was able to um you know get instant translations with ChatGPT and have it guide me around subways and the like.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_14: Right, the the amount of thing, the amount of capability increase that it gives to the average person if you know how to use it well is off the charts.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, I actually have to.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_15: I had a conversation with uh Alex, my chat GPT, on the drive-in because I have uh an issue that I discovered this morning with my water softener.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_15: And so he's like, Well, if you do this, if you're at home, I'm like, uh, I'm in the car, we'll tackle this later.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_15: He said, Yeah, yeah, you reach back out to me when you get home this afternoon.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_15: I was like, Yeah, pretty much.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_15: So all right, let's get into some of the questions here.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, we're gonna talk more about the unrest in France coming up next hour.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_15: We have state representative, uh friend of the show, Walter Hudson, joining us.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_15: A lot of parallels to the what's happening in France, to what we are dealing with here in Minnesota in terms of the way the state is governed.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_15: Um, I had this question that rolled in, uh, David, the blaster line.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, I've been watching the France riot coverage for the last couple of days, and depending on the outlet, I'm seeing completely different pictures.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_15: French flags versus Palestinian flags, European kids versus uh kids from Africa, like they're not even covering the same event.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_15: Some of that's probably just selective framing, but I think some of it is AI edited.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_15: If a real photo can get a flag or a crowd swapped out while still looking like authentic footage, what's actually left for people to trust?
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_15: Is there any real way left to tell a genuine image from a manipulated one?
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_15: Or are we already past that point?
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_15: And I think, David, this is an issue that you and I first, when we first started our AI conversations, I think this is one of the first things that we ever talked about.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_14: I think we're past that point is the answer.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_14: Um I think that that the literal answer is yes.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_14: There are ways still to tell AI images from genuine images, but they're subtle enough that it almost doesn't matter, right?
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_14: That like even if you're able to find small tells that suggest to you that it's an AI image, who's gonna believe you, right?
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_14: Um, oftentimes that's gonna be in the eye of the beholder.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_14: Um, you you and I talked, what, 10 12 years ago about how deep fakes and the ability of AI to create images and video that seemed real was going to shatter the consensus reality that we had about 12 years ago.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_14: I think we're at that point.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_14: Um and some of this, obviously, with respect to the the French protests and and riots uh could very much be just different photos of different parts of the same events.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_14: Like um, you know, protests, riots, these are all events that are complex where you'll have often peaceful and violent components that are a different part of the same movement.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_14: But it wouldn't surprise me, like I ex I I am certain that some images are in fact AI manipulated and AI created.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_14: I'm certain of that.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_14: Because any event of significance is going to have people throwing in photos that they've generated themselves.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_14: So to me, the listener is absolutely right.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_14: Certainly there are photos in there that are not organic and that are generated by AI.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_15: So I've been doing uh a couple of things on this, and then I want to move over to uh more of our uh friends of the show questions for our uh expert on uh artificial intelligence and the CEO of Expert Theory, David Gartenstein Ross again, 651-964-0294, or email john.justice at American Experiment.org and SJO N.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_15: So I've been doing a lot of uh news news hits uh because of all the recent uh Ilhan Omar specifically, you know, with the investigation.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_15: It's interesting because you don't see it in the broadcast, but from my end, when I'm doing these zoom hits, they are clearly using some sort of AI filter on the front end before it reaches the television.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_15: I don't know what for, but there is a sheen on the images of the guests on the screen that is absolutely AI generated.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_15: And I assume it must be some sort of embed into the programming wherein they have the opportunity to maybe manipulate background images if they need to.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_15: I just found that as bit to be a rather interesting uh or interesting observation.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_14: Yeah, but my guess would be it's sort of it's a filter, right?
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_14: That ultimately, if you were in the studio, there's certain things that you would get.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_14: There'd be makeup and uh other things to make you look broadcast quality.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_14: My guess is that they just have disparate guests that are on.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_14: You know, some of them are you know um the equivalent of social media influencers with their own own ring lights and things like that, and others you need a filter.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_14: That that's my best guess for it.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_14: But obviously, I have no context.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_15: Uh by the way, this right here, this is all natural.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_15: No filter on this, right now, this is my clear complexion.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_15: Just want to point that out.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_15: Um, to the point of media manipulation, then we'll get to this question um of the previous uh comment that came in on the blaster line.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, just yesterday, when I got up, I was doing my prep, and as I typically do, I wrap my prep by just going through X and grabbing audio, because it's the best place for me to grab audio.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_15: And there was imagery of um the Eiffel Tower on fire and it crashing to the ground.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_15: And I'm not gonna lie, for a moment, not knowing what had transpired overnight, seeing the previous images from over the weekend of Palestinian flags hanging off of the Eiffel Tower, there was a split second where I went, did that really happen?
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_15: And thank the good lord for community notes, pointing out that no, that was an AI-generated uh generated image.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_15: But I mean, it I I mean, you you and I both know we don't have to talk about how good AI looks, but it looked a hundred percent legitimate.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_15: It was it was pretty amazing to be.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_15: All right, let's go here.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_15: Um, unless you had a comment on that, I'm sorry.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_14: No, I mean it it's simply just it used to be that seeing was believing.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_14: And yeah, like at this point, no longer is seeing believing, which is a very, very different world than we lived in just three years ago.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, man.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_15: When you it amazes me, David, for you know, the length of time that you and I have been talking and been friends, just how much things have have changed, let alone in my you know, my my 30-year career.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_15: So all right, uh, this came in uh for a question for David Gartenstein Ross.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_15: I would submit for your consideration in the AI conversation, we as a country are going to need AI's increase in productivity and the wealth generated by that productivity to offset the lack of humans available to create that productivity and wealth.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_15: This is interesting too, David, just because I want to add this into it.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_15: Because I'm hearing a lot of arguments of the unrest in France.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_15: Some of this has to do with the fact that they're not having enough children there, and it's a Very it's a very much an older demographic that's contributing to a lot of this social unrest and frustration.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_15: Um, in the question, they say, because of the declining birth rate, declining birth uh right uh rate is a separate conversation, but because of declining birth rates, we're going to have fewer and fewer people in the income generating ages necessary to create wealth to fund the entitlement programs that we currently have, let alone those that are going to be coming down the pike.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_15: I hand it over to you.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_14: I I think the listener makes a really good point.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_14: Uh I mentioned my trip to Japan this past summer.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_14: I want to talk about Japan because if your listener's right, then Japan is sort of a bleeding edge of this.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_14: Um let's talk about general fertility and replacement rate.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_14: Generally speaking, the replacement rate for births is 2.1 children per woman.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_14: And most of the world, though not all of it, is below replacement rate in terms of births.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_14: Japan um has uh a record low uh fertility rate.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_14: Its fertility rate is 1.14 births per woman as of last year.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_14: Remember, the replacement rate is 2.1, which means Japan is almost one child per woman below replacement rate.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_14: Now I mention Japan because Japan is, you know, I I think there is nothing insulting about me calling Japan an ethnostate.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_14: Um the Japanese um ethnicity and um nationality go hand in hand.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_14: That that has been the case for a long time.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_14: Uh and when you have uh a fertility rate plummeting like you do in Japan, there's a number of ways that you can address it.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_14: You can try to increase fertility, you can um you know increase migration into the country, uh, or you can look for some sort of hail mary.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_14: And I think in Japan, their solution is robots, in my opinion.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_14: Right?
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_14: Like it's the exact situation that your listener is talking about.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_14: Um I would take this seriously.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_14: Fertility rates, generally speaking, are plummeting globally while lifespan is extending.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_14: Uh, people are having babies later.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_14: Um, what your listener is talking about is correct.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_14: That we aren't going to have um the workforce that tr traditionally would be associated with what we need to care for an aging population.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_14: So AI is a part of that story.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_15: Is the uniqueness of the United States on the global stage?
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_15: Um, will that let's just let's say for the sake of argument that what we're discussing right now is kind of inevitable and what we see happen, you know, overseas in other countries will essentially happen here with the declining birth rate maybe at a slower rate.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_15: Is our uniqueness here in the United States and the freedom that we have, does it provide a level of shielding from this happening?
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_15: Does it delay the inevitable or I'll just leave it at that.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_15: Does it delay the inevitable, just how unique the United States is compared to other countries who and we'll all be dealing with this issue in the future?
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_14: Depends on what we just describe as the inevitable there.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_14: Um in the US, we our our fertility rate is now at an all-time low.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_14: Our fertility rate has hit 1.58 to 1.6 births per woman, meaning that we're about um half a child per woman below the replacement rate.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_14: Uh so we're we're already in demographic decline uh and um you know, not as steep as Japan, obviously.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_14: Uh we're about half a birth per woman above Japan, give or take.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_14: But you know, we're below replacement level, uh, so it's happening.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_14: Um there are, you know, freedom allows us to do a lot of things to deal with issues that like like a declining replacement rate, declining fertility rate, but we definitely have a declining fertility rate, like much, though not all, of the rest of the world.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_14: And this is a trend that's relatively consistent with some exceptions to the trend.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_14: Africa is an exception to the trend.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_14: Um, I believe that the Middle East, for the most part, is still an exception to the trend.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_14: Latin America is in steep decline.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_14: I was just looking at fertility rates in Latin America, and like uh Colombia actually has an even lower fertility rate than Japan does, um, at least according to the statistics that I was looking at on this yesterday.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_15: You know, I uh uh you probably don't have an answer to this, but as you're talking, you know, I'm thinking about the future of my sons.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_15: And you know, on the one hand, I have Logan, 24, he's you know, working his way towards becoming uh either a commercial um or a uh delivery you know pilot, you know, for an airline in the future.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_15: He's already got his pilot license.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_15: So on the one hand, I look at his career and I think, well, that's pretty safe.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_15: Then I go, well, you know, artificial intelligence and and uh the airline industry is obviously going to have an impact.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_15: But then I have my son Kyle, who will be 20 in December, not sure what his future is going to is going to be yet.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_15: And I think what we're talking about right now makes it even more difficult to navigate possible career paths because you simply don't know, or it's not discussed enough to really have a good um a good idea of what those viable jobs are going to be in the in the future.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_15: Um do you have any have any thoughts on that, David?
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_14: Well, this is the one of the core um theses of the work that I do now.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_14: Um you know, overall I believe that we are in extraordinarily uncertain professional times.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_14: And one of the most important things to have is the ability to learn and to have human skills that are uniquely human.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_14: Um that is judgment in the face of uncertainty, uh, the ability to make own decisions, the ability to read a room, uh, the ability to negotiate to reach win-win solutions.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_14: These are all important.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_14: They're typically not taught in the schools.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_14: This is one reason why I've doubled down, my company Expert Theory has doubled down on trying to create games that teach skills that are relatively unique that don't often get taught in the classroom because I think these are the skills that people are going to need to stay abreast of an extraordinarily challenging job market.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_15: A lot of questions have rolled in.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_15: Uh 651-964-0294.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, this one, a text that came into the blaster line.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_15: Grok now has bots.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_15: How do you use them and what can they do?
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_15: Uh David, do you have uh you have any thoughts on that?
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_14: I I haven't really played around with the bots on Grok.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_14: I've um I'm as your listeners will know, I'm more of a uh ChatGPT person, but the bots are like the bots on ChatGPT are uh extraordinarily uh capable.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_14: Um I'm sure grocs are as well, and this at least gives me uh an incentive to play around with them a bit.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, I just when they I mean when they talk about grok having bots that you can utilize, that sounds like a bad thing.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_15: I don't I mean, should the public have access to being able to deploy bots?
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_15: Is that what we're talking about, or am I a misunderstanding what that means?
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_14: Um well, so the bots really are not um like separate entities.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_14: They're supposed to be digital coworkers.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_14: Um and so bots will there's a few different capabilities within Grok.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_14: Um uh so the bots can um you know it interact with uh your apps, such as like um, you know, Slack or Gmail or Stripe.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_14: They can undertake tasks and do them in repeated ways, things like that.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_14: That's generally in this context what people mean by bots.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_15: Gotcha.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_15: Okay, so like it conceivably I could like right now when it comes to ChatGPT, and I have a question regarding ChatGPT that just came in that we'll get to.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_15: Uh but um when I use ChatGPT, there are some limitations.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_15: Like I've tried to push them to do certain things, like uh scheduling posts that I do on X every day to promote the show or sending an email to somebody, there's a there's a limited access availability with some of this that I haven't quite figured out yet.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_15: It sounds like with bots I could actually deploy bots to go and do some of this ancillary work that I do on a daily basis.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_15: It's more busy work.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_15: Does that sound sound correct?
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_14: Uh well, no, I'm I'm guessing that for chat you're paying twenty dollars a month as opposed to a hundred a month.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_14: Is that right?
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah.
• 52:48
  unknown: Yeah.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_14: Yeah.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_14: If you upgrade upgraded it, if you pay another$80 a month, it would do it for you.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_15: Okay, gotcha.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_15: Okay.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_15: Uh here's a question that rolled in.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_15: Uh I use ChatGPT.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_15: His name is Chuck.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_15: Can you ask a DGR why, when having a conversation with Chuck these past couple of weeks, he sometimes glitches and says, Mary, would you like to end the call now?
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_15: I remind him that I don't, and I want to keep working on whatever we are doing.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_15: Then he glitches a few more times and I continue to remind him, and finally he gets back on track.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_15: It only happens when we are talking.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_15: Maybe uh DGR can help me optimize what I say to Chuck to stop that from happening.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_14: No, there's more glitches than usual when you're talking.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_14: Um so one reason is is sometimes you just have a poor connection.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_14: Um, and it glitches a lot when the connection is poor.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_14: The connection, the poor connection, um, it's not clear where it's coming from when I hit a poor connection.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_14: Sometimes it's because the signal is bad.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_14: Um, sometimes it's because um sometimes I suspect it comes from chat itself.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_14: But you know, the amount of um brain power for an AI to have like an ongoing, free-flowing, you know, hour or hours-long conversation with you is enormous.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_14: Um I I've had my own like strange glitches from my Chat GPT.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_14: I I I call mine Maddie.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_14: And um we were having a conversation the other day, and Maddie just like cursed at random.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_14: And I was like, What?
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_14: What did you just say?
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_14: And she's like, and uh, she replied, I I was talking to my back end.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_14: I was like, did you just curse?
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_14: She was like, Yes.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_14: I said, that was weird.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_14: And she's like, yes, I thought so too.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_14: Um and you know, so so like weird things happen where um, like in part, I I actually think that I understand what was happening there.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_14: And it in part it comes from how um chat is set up, which is it's meant to mimic like what humans do.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_14: Something that it was trying to pull from it, like something that it was trying to do in its thinking process wasn't quite working.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_14: And so Maddie did what a person does when things don't work, which is to curse.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_14: And like the whole thing was very weird, and then we moved on and everything was was fine.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_14: Uh, but I would say for Mary, number one, if you're looking at at chat, it will tell you when the connection is poor.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_14: And like if you're in voice mode, poor connection is just gonna produce weird things because it can't fully hear you, but its imperative is still to respond to you.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_14: Whereas if John and I are on a call and don't hear each other, I would say, John, John, I can't hear you.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_14: And right then be like, Can you hear me now?
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_14: Uh and chat just doesn't do that because it rightly considers such things to be annoying.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_14: And so from context, it's just gonna try to pick up what you're saying.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_14: But the second thing is, man, like in voice mode, chat really can be weird.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_14: And like, that's just a feature right now.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_15: Uh let's go here to the blaster line, 651-964-0294.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_27: Hey, good morning, John.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_27: I have a question for David.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_27: We talk very regularly about the replacement rate in countries.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_27: My question is let's pretend the government doesn't promise people that they will take care of them from the day they die.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_27: Do we need the replacement rate to be a thing?
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_27: Why do we have to have so many people come up after others to pay for nothing but Social Security?
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_27: Is there anything else that you should pay for?
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_27: Because I'm getting real sick and tired of listening to the replacement rate talk as our problem for everything.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_27: It's getting to be too much.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_15: A little off the beaten path of artificial intelligence, but would you like?
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_15: Do you have any uh thoughts on the uh on the front of the show's comments there, David?
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_14: Yeah, the other thing about replacement rate is just having enough people to care for elderly in a variety of different ways.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_14: So, you know, if if the government isn't like, let's assume that we have like relatively healthy families, um, you know, and that's obviously not going to be the case universally, but if you um take away the government trying to care for the elderly, then you'll have the family instead trying to care for the elderly.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_14: Uh you also will have you know different people, whether it's a nurse or others who are needed, including a medical, you know, the medical system, because as everyone knows, towards the end of life, the um cost of medical care um ends up spiking.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_14: So there are indeed other things.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_14: This is why when we turn to Japan, and you know, Japan in general, um, I talked about a few characteristics before, but one characteristic of Japan that I really admire is it tends to have a very healthy family structure with a lot of emphasis on care and respect for the elderly.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_14: Um, as such, if you don't have enough people to care for the elderly, and you're not going to try to increase the number of people in the country through like increased migration or whatnot, then there really is like one solution, and that is robots.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_15: Um David, I just forwarded you an email from an individual who we've talked to quite a bit.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_15: We're gonna save that for uh uh for next week, because I know we're gonna have to spend some further time on it.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_15: I do want to uh I do want to ask uh this question that came into the uh blaster line before we wrap up our conversation this morning.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_15: How slash where can I get more information?
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_15: How better to optimize my ability to receive more information from my chat?
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_15: Like my gut reaction is ask the chat.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_15: But uh David, what are your uh what are your thoughts on that?
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_14: Um I would say for that listener, if they want to send you a more specific email in terms of what they want to optimize, um I would actually love you know, maybe maybe uh next time we do the show to um go over it and um spend a little bit of time in tutorial.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_14: Because I know that that that from the listener feedback I get, that's one of the things that people find most useful is actual practical tips on how to get the most out of their AI.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_14: Uh so I'd love to turn that into a little bit of a segment.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_15: Uh David Gartenstein Ross, uh CEO at Expert Theory DGR, as always.
• 59:00
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  SPEAKER_15: Just got off the line with David uh Gartenstein Ross talking artificial intelligence.
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_15: Uh and uh yesterday it was announced that Elon Musk, along with a leader of Anthropic, are going to be giving away shares to children in the future.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_15: We were talking about this potential need for a universal basic income.
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  SPEAKER_15: It's incredibly controversial.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_15: It's not something that I'm certainly on board with what, but with artificial intelligence and a lack of jobs because of AI replacing it, it may be something necessary in the future.
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  SPEAKER_15: Here is a little bit more of the coverage of the breaking news uh from yesterday regarding this move by Elon Musk.
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  SPEAKER_23: One model predicts uh vast economic transformation with US GDP potentially reaching forty four trillion by twenty thirty, which sounds very outlandish, I know.
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  SPEAKER_23: But it's implicated by the technology continuing to get better.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_10: Despite the pledges and positive predictions, progressives on the campaign trail are calling the rapid growth of AI and data centers a danger to society.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_50: We have gotta put a pause on advanced AI development and a ban on superintelligence.
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  SPEAKER_10: These AI investments come on the heels of the president's Trump Accounts Initiative, which gives a thousand dollars to American children born between 2025 and 2028.
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  SPEAKER_15: Before we get to the gubernatorial debate here on the show, I there's a couple of holdovers from last hour that I want to work through.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_15: Uh again, Representative uh Walter Hudson will be joining us in studio coming up at 7:30.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_15: First off, with Elon Musk, there are still individuals that are out there pitching a fit over the debut of the Tesla Roadster and the fact that he went and made it fly.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_15: They're still upset about this.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_15: The context surrounding SpaceX, Elon Musk, the amount of money that he has versus the ills of the world are lost on these fools who simply do not understand what they are talking about.
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_51: A trillionaire builds a flying car.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_51: That's less.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_51: And we're still broke.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_51: And there's still people that can't get food in the United States.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_51: We have a trillionaire who builds a car that can go zero to sixty in point eight seconds.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_51: And we can't afford groceries.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_51: We have a trillionaire who build a car that can jump over the car.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_51: How much is this car gonna be?
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  SPEAKER_51: A billion dollars?
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_51: Who's gonna there's here and then there's us, and there's that's it.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_51: That's it.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_51: And the rich will continually get richer because what can you do with a trillion dollars?
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_51: Build stupid cars.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_51: Cool.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_51: Why don't you go help people?
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_51: Why don't you go around the country and help people?
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_15: That's not how any of this works.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_15: That's it that's that's not how you go and you solve these problems.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_15: It would be a temporary fix at that, and it would end up undermining everything that Elon Musk is doing.
• 1:06:41
  SPEAKER_15: These are all completely separate issues, but these individuals are so broken and so brainwashed by the leftist propaganda that they do not understand the proper context of what they are talking about.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_15: In this case, relating to the ills of the world and this idea that Elon Musk and his riches that he earned, by the way, could go and solve all of these problems.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_15: You know, it's so funny too, because you don't ever hear this, and I've made this joke before, you don't ever hear this same analogy when it comes to like James Cameron and the Avatar movies.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_15: I mean, billions of dollars are made off of those films.
• 1:07:17
  SPEAKER_15: And I used to joke, not anymore, because there's been a diminishing return on the Avatar films, but I joked that you know what, if James Cameron could just pump out a few more Avatar movies, he could probably solve the debt using that same sort of ridiculous mentality of what you just heard.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_15: I want to share this with you, though.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_15: This post by Nathan Pisario online, I thought was really relevant relating to the stupid controversy that people have when it comes to Elon Musk and the flying car.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_15: He says, I saw Tesla take off and I heard a lot of nonsense.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_15: It's useless.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_15: It's a billionaire's gadget.
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_15: Who needs a flying car?
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_15: Nobody.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_15: And that's exactly why it matters.
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_15: In 1978, a Brabham lined up a Formula One car.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_15: I think I said that right, Brabham, lined up a Formula One car equipped with a giant fan at the rear.
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_15: It sucked air from under the chassis and pinned the car to the ground.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_15: It won first race with um a massive lead.
• 1:08:11
  SPEAKER_15: It was banned immediately.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_15: Forty-eight years later, we're back at it.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_15: A suction system that glues the car to the road and lets it hit zero to one hundred under a second.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_15: Nobody needs to do zero to one hundred miles an hour in less than a second.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_15: Just like nobody needs a Formula One car.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_15: And yet, carbon brakes on your sedan, the hybridization of your engine, the aerodynamics of your SUV, the paddles on your steering wheel, all that comes from race cars that nobody will ever use to commute to work.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_15: Formula One is useless, and yet it's useful for everything.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_15: In 1973, when France launched in Europe, it was emerging 11 consecutive failures of the Europa program.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_15: This was Ariane, not sure what Ariane is.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_15: The press talked about the money thrown into space.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_15: Twenty years later, and Arane held half the global market for commercial launches, and every TV, weather, or GPS satellite you use benefited from that stubbornness.
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_15: Progress has always worn the same face at the start.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_15: A useless, expensive, ridiculous thing built by people we take for fools.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_15: What I saw in Dallas wasn't a flying car.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_15: It was a chassis, energy management, and mastery of airflow that the automotive industry will take 10 years to digest.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_15: The applications will come: safety, braking, and stability, efficiency.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_15: They'll end up in ordinary cars driven by people who in 2036 will explain that it was all obvious.
• 1:09:49
  SPEAKER_15: The question is never what's it for?
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_15: The question is who still dares to build things that serve no purpose?
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_15: Fifty years ago, it was us, the Rocket, TGV, the Concord.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_15: Europe was building absurd and magnificent things.
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_15: Today, we comment from the backseat because we're out of the race.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_15: Thank you, Elon Musk, for making us all dream.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_15: And why does this happen?
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_15: Because for as much as everybody calls the leftists progressives, they are anything but.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_15: And this is going to be a theme running through the remainder of the show today.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_15: They want to stifle innovation because they want to control it, because ultimately they want to control you.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_15: Leftists benefit from a society that is struggling.
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_15: Democrats have no interest in improving our education system because it benefits them to have stupid kids coming out of our schools, hopefully willing to go and buy into the ridiculous solutions that the leftists offer for the problems that they create.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_15: They want you struggling in your jobs so that they can go and provide ridiculous solutions like paid family medical leave, of which apparently uh Amy Klobuchar has a uh a solution for.
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_15: They stifle innovation and they push negativity towards individuals like Elon Musk, who show what it means to accomplish something, to work hard, and to achieve.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_15: They absolutely hate that right now.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_15: And that's why you hear ridiculous commentaries like that.
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_16: This is wife of former neighbor Mike.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_16: You know, John, you could make that argument about anything that anyone invents or creates.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_16: You could say that about when the airplane was invented.
• 1:11:42
  SPEAKER_16: What the hell were they doing, spending all their time inventing an airplane when people were starving?
• 1:11:48
  SPEAKER_16: Here's another one.
• 1:11:49
  SPEAKER_16: Why is Taylor Swift wasting her time writing another song?
• 1:11:53
  SPEAKER_16: What you think we need?
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_16: Another stupid song to listen to when people are starving to death all over the world?
• 1:11:59
  SPEAKER_16: Why didn't she just go and give all of her money away?
• 1:12:03
  SPEAKER_16: Why is she wasting her time writing more music?
• 1:12:07
  SPEAKER_16: Spend your millions on people, Taylor.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_16: Gosh darn, what a stupid woman that was.
• 1:12:13
  SPEAKER_16: Hey, have a great day.
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_15: And uh, good show so far.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_15: And uh, and don't forget, it's also just an extension of socialism.
• 1:12:21
  SPEAKER_15: You start with Elon Musk, he should be sharing his wealth with everybody, and you work your way down until it lands on like me.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_15: John shouldn't make any money, and the money that he makes, if he has anything left over, should go to people like producer Devin.
• 1:12:35
  SPEAKER_15: You can be quiet over there.
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_15: I know I brought you into it.
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_15: That's my bad.
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_40: Good morning, John.
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_40: To the woman who you just played and said it must have trillions that he's a trillion that he couldn't.
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_40: My response is We have millions who sit on their backside and do nothing and demand everything for free.
• 1:12:58
  SPEAKER_40: If some of them got up and helped, maybe this world would be a better place.
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_40: Maybe more could be done.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_40: Don't expect somebody else to just pay for anything for you.
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_40: Get up and do something with your life.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_40: Have a great day, John.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_15: More of your thoughts coming up in just a moment here on the John Justice Show presented by American Experiments.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_04: You've heard about Education Minnesota, the statewide teachers' union that's affiliated with Randy Weingarten's American Federation of Teachers.
• 1:13:26
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• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_04: They have endorsed their slate of candidates in the Eastern Carver County School Board race.
• 1:13:34
  SPEAKER_04: To see whose campaigns Education Minnesota and the local teachers union, the Chaska Education Association, are funding, visit reelectjoeescott.com and check the blog section.
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_08: Hi, I'm Joe Scott, and I'm the only conservative on the Eastern Carver County Schools Board.
• 1:13:51
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• 1:14:03
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• 1:14:05
  SPEAKER_08: We need to keep these outside ideologies away from our children.
• 1:14:10
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• 1:14:15
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• 1:14:19
  SPEAKER_19: Oh my God, lady, there used to be kings that had servants carrying around their chamber pots and peasants dying in the fields.
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_19: Make that make sense.
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  SPEAKER_24: Good morning, John.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_24: This woman you just played who's going on and on about Elon Musk having trillions of dollars, but people are starving and she doesn't have any money, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:15:47
  SPEAKER_24: These are the class warfare people.
• 1:15:49
  SPEAKER_24: They are the reason this country and this world struggles so much.
• 1:15:53
  SPEAKER_15: He's a ScottCon5 this morning, right?
• 1:15:55
  SPEAKER_15: Is that where we're getting?
• 1:15:55
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, Devin's just giving me an enthusiastic yes.
• 1:15:58
  SPEAKER_15: ScottCon5.
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_24: Because they're just envious and jealous.
• 1:16:01
  SPEAKER_24: If you look around in any place anywhere, obesity's run at 50%.
• 1:16:07
  SPEAKER_24: So people aren't starving, woman.
• 1:16:09
  SPEAKER_24: Thank you very much.
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_24: It's people are lazy and they want a handout and they don't want to do anything to make themselves useful citizens.
• 1:16:17
  SPEAKER_24: That's all it is.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_24: Quit.
• 1:16:19
  SPEAKER_24: Quit driving.
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_24: I can't take it.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_15: Alright.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_15: Um, I have, I'm not gonna share it now.
• 1:16:28
  SPEAKER_15: I'm saving it till later in the eight o'clock hour.
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_15: Um, it just reminded me because I get the feeling that Scott's gonna want to leave another comment on the blaster line.
• 1:16:37
  SPEAKER_15: I have a new audio clip from Governor Dimwalls' daughter, Hope Walls.
• 1:16:43
  SPEAKER_15: This clip that I'll share with you coming up after 8 o'clock today is probably the most ignorant that Hope Walls has ever sounded.
• 1:16:55
  SPEAKER_15: Ever.
• 1:16:56
  SPEAKER_15: I I it's gotta be 50-50 that she's trolling people.
• 1:17:01
  SPEAKER_15: Like, I feel like it's a social experiment.
• 1:17:03
  SPEAKER_15: See, she is so incredibly off the mark in her commentary.
• 1:17:07
  SPEAKER_15: So again, that's just a tease.
• 1:17:08
  SPEAKER_15: That's your previous preview.
• 1:17:09
  SPEAKER_15: We'll get to that coming up uh after eight o'clock this morning.
• 1:17:12
  SPEAKER_33: Rich people like Elon are helping poor people by providing jobs.
• 1:17:19
  SPEAKER_33: It's true.
• 1:17:19
  SPEAKER_33: Instead of just giving them a handout.
• 1:17:21
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• 1:17:24
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• 1:17:44
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• 1:17:57
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• 1:18:01
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• 1:18:08
  SPEAKER_31: They'll complaining about the trillions of dollars that Elon Musk has.
• 1:18:13
  SPEAKER_31: Obviously, they're too stupid to know that he doesn't have that money.
• 1:18:18
  SPEAKER_31: Um, but anyhow, uh they really worry about all the money and why you know starving people and why aren't they give it all away?
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_31: These are the very same people that don't care about the Somali fraud and the billions of dollars and the social um.
• 1:18:36
  SPEAKER_15: No, you're absolutely we we got the gist of what you were saying, and you are absolutely right.
• 1:18:41
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• 1:18:44
  SPEAKER_15: Uh much appreciated.
• 1:18:45
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  SPEAKER_45: Hey John, I bet you that lady that called in with the earth said that stupid thing about Elon Musk.
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  SPEAKER_45: I guarantee she's a liberal that has a very nice house with a very nice car that goes on very nice vacations.
• 1:20:02
  SPEAKER_45: She's not lazy, she's a virtue signaler.
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_45: They love to virtue signal.
• 1:20:07
  SPEAKER_45: Thanks, have a great day.
• 1:20:08
  SPEAKER_15: All right, quick update on um Alyssa Slotkin, the senator.
• 1:20:13
  SPEAKER_15: We played this clip yesterday, so we're gonna do a round of uh how it started and uh how it's going.
• 1:20:20
  SPEAKER_15: So over the weekend, Alyssa Slotkin ended up going viral for making uh this uh statement recently at a campaign event.
• 1:20:28
  SPEAKER_03: So that's what I'm saying.
• 1:20:29
  SPEAKER_03: I want to look at these signature cases and not just focus on the president, but on the people who enabled him.
• 1:20:35
  SPEAKER_03: I want young people coming out of school to say, should I go work for the Trump administration?
• 1:20:40
  SPEAKER_03: Like, that sounds fun.
• 1:20:41
  SPEAKER_03: I might get an opportunity.
• 1:20:42
  SPEAKER_03: I want them to be like, Lord, that might be buying myself a ton of problems that I don't want.
• 1:20:48
  SPEAKER_03: And so let me avoid participating in that.
• 1:20:52
  SPEAKER_03: I want that deterrence message sent.
• 1:20:55
  SPEAKER_15: And as I mentioned yesterday, uh, this is how vindictive the left is.
• 1:21:01
  SPEAKER_15: It's why they can so easily go and point to the controversy, say, surrounding Representative Ilhan Omar, and say it's nothing more than political targeting of a member of Congress without looking at the specifics and the facts relating to how legal hoops were jumped through even by far leftists who approved the launching of that investigation, because this is how vindictive these people are.
• 1:21:29
  SPEAKER_15: And much like Keith Ellison during that recent forum with his attorney general candidate opponent, Ron Schutz, tried to go and deflect away from his very pointed statements of if they're not voting for him, they're bigots and racist.
• 1:21:45
  SPEAKER_15: Alyssa Slotkin does exactly the same thing.
• 1:21:48
  SPEAKER_15: That clip that you just heard goes goes viral over the weekend.
• 1:21:51
  SPEAKER_15: Everybody's talking about it.
• 1:21:52
  SPEAKER_15: She then makes the media rounds yesterday.
• 1:21:55
  SPEAKER_15: Here's her excuse.
• 1:21:56
  SPEAKER_15: Here's how it's going.
• 1:21:58
  SPEAKER_03: I do think there's something about being a woman and criticizing them and calling them out on that corruption that really gets under their skin, obviously, or they wouldn't respond, you know, remember the Second Amendment's sweetheart or all that crap.
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um but I I think it it's it's more that it it's not speaking to them, it's speaking to the people who are potentially going to be asked to follow illegal requests, right?
• 1:22:21
  SPEAKER_03: It's speaking directly to the people who are on the receiving end of this administration.
• 1:22:26
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah.
• 1:22:27
  SPEAKER_15: It's not because she said anything controversial in her mind.
• 1:22:30
  SPEAKER_15: Oh no, no, no.
• 1:22:31
  SPEAKER_15: It's just because, you know, I'm a woman.
• 1:22:33
  SPEAKER_15: That's all.
• 1:22:35
  SPEAKER_15: It's just like Keith Ellison when he's faced with his own words which were completely specific to what he was referring to.
• 1:22:44
  SPEAKER_15: There is no denying what was said here.
• 1:22:53
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you know that.
• 1:22:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's true.
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_00: My opponent is beating me by two points right now.
• 1:22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I don't know if it's an accurate poll or not.
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_00: I do know this.
• 1:23:04
  SPEAKER_00: I take it seriously, and I hope you all take it seriously too.
• 1:23:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because this is what you call a base election.
• 1:23:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know what a base election is?
• 1:23:14
  SPEAKER_00: That means whoever gets out their base, that's who's gonna win.
• 1:23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Now, is the base of people who believe in freedom and justice, compassion and mercy the people for the people who believe that in the equality of human beings and the dignity of all human beings, will we show up and vote?
• 1:23:37
  SPEAKER_00: Or will the bigots and the racists show up and vote?
• 1:23:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:23:42
  SPEAKER_00: Either we're gonna show up or they're gonna show up.
• 1:23:47
  SPEAKER_00: We're not against them, they're against us.
• 1:23:50
  SPEAKER_15: And when he's questioned on that, there was no denying what he was saying.
• 1:23:54
  SPEAKER_15: Keith Ellison was saying that the individuals who don't vote for him are bigots and racists.
• 1:23:59
  SPEAKER_15: Those would be people that would more than likely go and vote for Ron Schutz.
• 1:24:02
  SPEAKER_15: He's asked about it during that forum last week, and he says, Oh, you just misconstrued what I said.
• 1:24:08
  SPEAKER_15: Alyssa Slotkin, the same thing, says the only reason why she's being attacked for threatening lawfare against young conservatives for serving in the Trump administration is because she's a woman.
• 1:24:18
  SPEAKER_15: They can't even stand behind their own statements.
• 1:24:20
  SPEAKER_15: And they're so ignorant.
• 1:24:23
  SPEAKER_15: As I mentioned yesterday, it rings true again here with Alyssa Slotkin.
• 1:24:28
  SPEAKER_15: Own it! Why are you not owning this?
• 1:24:32
  SPEAKER_15: Your side doesn't care.
• 1:24:34
  SPEAKER_15: You have done a successful job in impacting the individuals who vote for Democrats over and over and over again.
• 1:24:43
  SPEAKER_15: People that I refer to as the broken and the brainwashed.
• 1:24:46
  SPEAKER_15: You have done a fantastic job of convincing them to vote against anybody who is aligned with the right and certainly with President Donald Trump.
• 1:24:54
  SPEAKER_15: So just own your words.
• 1:24:56
  SPEAKER_15: Your base doesn't care.
• 1:24:59
  SPEAKER_15: No, because they're a bunch of liars and they're a bunch of hypocrites.
• 1:25:02
  SPEAKER_33: That woman complains about people quoting the Second Amendment to her and all that crap.
• 1:25:09
  SPEAKER_33: That's how she views our Constitution and our amendments as crap.
• 1:25:15
  SPEAKER_15: They have no respect for the country.
• 1:25:17
  SPEAKER_15: None what so ever.
• 1:25:20
  SPEAKER_20: Good morning, John.
• 1:25:21
  SPEAKER_20: I went and voted early in person yesterday and yesterday, just like the last at least 15 or more election cycles.
• 1:25:36
  SPEAKER_20: I see people standing in there that don't even know where they're at.
• 1:25:42
  SPEAKER_20: Can't even hold the pin and they have people with them.
• 1:25:46
  SPEAKER_20: Oh, I'm here to help them vote.
• 1:25:49
  SPEAKER_20: I have deep compassion for the mentally impaired, but come on, there's something wrong with someone walking someone like that in there and voting for them.
• 1:26:00
  SPEAKER_20: I literally witnessed them standing there in a haze while the person that was helping them was filling out the ballot.
• 1:26:12
  SPEAKER_20: That should not be legal.
• 1:26:14
  SPEAKER_15: Well, it is.
• 1:26:15
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, and there's legitimate means and reasons for that.
• 1:26:20
  SPEAKER_15: I do understand your concern.
• 1:26:21
  SPEAKER_15: I've heard from other individuals talking about buses being driven up to polling places and people piling out and people assisting those individuals.
• 1:26:29
  SPEAKER_15: We have laws that make it really easy to vote and to go and game the system.
• 1:26:35
  SPEAKER_15: They're not out of the bounds legally.
• 1:26:38
  SPEAKER_15: That being said, these elections are not won by the left in landslides here in Minnesota.
• 1:26:44
  SPEAKER_15: And it just shows you the efforts that Democrats have and how, you know, those who want to beat Democrats are going to have to go and play a similar game when it comes to the election cycle if you want to go and win elections.
• 1:26:57
  SPEAKER_25: Oh, and on a side note, John, took a lot of spine to strike out on your own.
• 1:27:02
  SPEAKER_25: So I apologize for that earlier comment a couple years ago.
• 1:27:06
  SPEAKER_25: Park seems to be doing good, and you got a pretty good spine.
• 1:27:12
  SPEAKER_15: I have no idea what he's talking about.
• 1:27:16
  SPEAKER_15: I assume something derogatory was said about me in the past negative to my being a talk host, and this individual was stepping up and apologizing, but I have no clue what the context is.
• 1:27:27
  SPEAKER_15: So feel free to leave another text or uh talk back and let me know.
• 1:27:31
  SPEAKER_15: But I appreciate the comments uh either way, I guess.
• 1:27:36
  SPEAKER_15: So all right, let's go uh let's go here.
• 1:27:39
  SPEAKER_15: Walter Hudson's gonna be joining us in about 10 minutes here on uh the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
• 1:27:46
  SPEAKER_30: Good morning, John Rich here.
• 1:27:47
  SPEAKER_30: So Keith Ellison's statement there you know, basically, if you don't vote for me, the racists and bigots are gonna win.
• 1:27:54
  SPEAKER_30: That's no different than Joe Biden saying that if you don't vote for him, you I mean, it's an insult to the minority population.
• 1:28:04
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  SPEAKER_15: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_15: All right.
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  SPEAKER_15: DFL Senator Amy Klobuchar, Republican House Speaker Lisa Damath, debated in Brainerd, focusing on their visions for Minnesota's economy.
• 1:32:42
  SPEAKER_15: Klobishar emphasized growth at tax cuts and criticized Governor Walls' administration while Damath called for a fresh start to lower taxes and regulatory reform.
• 1:32:52
  SPEAKER_15: The debate highlighted their differencing of approaches to issues like health care, infrastructure, and the state's economic news.
• 1:32:59
  SPEAKER_15: Got a couple of clips to share with you.
• 1:33:02
  SPEAKER_15: Listen, it was a fairly lackluster uh debate.
• 1:33:06
  SPEAKER_15: Uh and it it continues to call into question the need for debates moving forward.
• 1:33:11
  SPEAKER_15: I and I know this is controversial.
• 1:33:13
  SPEAKER_15: It's one of my weaker takes that everybody hates, much like uh splitting up the Super Bowl or playing it on Saturdays, right?
• 1:33:20
  SPEAKER_15: The Saturday idea is better than my dividing it up between Saturday and Sunday.
• 1:33:25
  SPEAKER_15: I still think they should play the game on Saturday.
• 1:33:27
  SPEAKER_15: It would be better for everybody.
• 1:33:28
  SPEAKER_15: Be that as it may.
• 1:33:30
  SPEAKER_15: When it comes to debates, they just increasingly seem that they're unnecessary.
• 1:33:35
  SPEAKER_15: We know already where these candidates stand.
• 1:33:39
  SPEAKER_15: And I think for certain races, like a governor's race, I understand the importance.
• 1:33:43
  SPEAKER_15: But this debate that took place, hosted by the Minnesota Chamber of Commerce, both candidates laying out their perspective and respective visions for Minnesota's economy, um it was kind of lackluster, to be honest.
• 1:33:55
  SPEAKER_15: I didn't really find anything new.
• 1:33:57
  SPEAKER_15: The biggest takeaway that I had uh continues to be that it doesn't seem like Amy Klobuchar's heart is in this.
• 1:34:03
  SPEAKER_15: Now, being fair, that could be just because of the dynamics of this particular debate being uh, you know, an afternoon debate, uh more of a forum than it was anything else.
• 1:34:16
  SPEAKER_15: Um, that wasn't a lot of energy there, but you know, Amy Klobuchar just seemed bored.
• 1:34:22
  SPEAKER_15: So here's a few clips uh from the debate yesterday.
• 1:34:24
  SPEAKER_15: We'll work through this.
• 1:34:25
  SPEAKER_15: Lisa Damath criticizing Klobuchar's weak proposal to fix Minnesota's broken uh government.
• 1:34:31
  SPEAKER_49: Are your businesses better off today than they were eight years ago?
• 1:34:35
  SPEAKER_49: You've heard the senator say that she was going to be replacing some of the commissioners.
• 1:34:39
  SPEAKER_49: I have said very early on that I will be firing all of the commissioners in the state of Minnesota and starting fresh.
• 1:34:46
  SPEAKER_49: We have allowed a culture of waste and fraud to go on far too long, and we can't keep going this way.
• 1:34:53
  SPEAKER_15: Uh Lisa Damouth uh also outlining how she would go about balancing Minnesota's budget, what uh reign in what she says is Democrats out of control spending.
• 1:35:04
  SPEAKER_15: This is relevant to when Walter joins us.
• 1:35:06
  SPEAKER_15: We're gonna talk a little bit about the unrest in France, but there's a lot of parallels to the economy in France, what they've been dealing with on an economic societal level that has provided an opportunity for the leftists to come in and exploit that economic frustration.
• 1:35:26
  SPEAKER_15: Here's more from uh Lisa Damuth.
• 1:35:34
  SPEAKER_11: And our state government currently spends more money than it brings in each year, requiring, as you know, a balancing act at the State Capitol to bring everything into alignment.
• 1:35:43
  SPEAKER_11: Uh what would you do as governor uh to balance the budget?
• 1:35:47
  SPEAKER_11: And given the economic climate and the fact that spending currently outpaces revenue, uh, would tax hikes be something you would look into, or is it spending cuts?
• 1:35:58
  SPEAKER_49: Tax hikes are absolutely off the table for me.
• 1:36:01
  SPEAKER_49: We have seen our state be overtaxed year after year under the current administration.
• 1:36:08
  SPEAKER_49: Whether it's a family budget or your business budget, you know the best way to control costs is to make effective changes and right sizing that budget.
• 1:36:16
  SPEAKER_49: So, as the next governor, that's what I would be looking at doing.
• 1:36:19
  SPEAKER_49: The Walls administration added 6,000 new FTEs, full-time equivalent employees to the state budget.
• 1:36:26
  SPEAKER_49: The question is, was that the right thing for Minnesota?
• 1:36:29
  SPEAKER_49: No.
• 1:36:30
  SPEAKER_49: This is how we grow our budget.
• 1:36:32
  SPEAKER_49: We make sure we have a workforce that is ready to lead, a business economy that can grow.
• 1:36:39
  SPEAKER_49: And in addition to that, by right sizing the government, it allows taxpayers in Minnesota to keep more of your hard-earned tax dollars.
• 1:36:48
  SPEAKER_49: So, right sizing a budget, reducing regulatory uh environment that makes businesses choose to go other state to other states rather than staying here.
• 1:36:59
  SPEAKER_49: But we're gonna be talking about fraud, I'm sure.
• 1:37:02
  SPEAKER_49: And part of what we have been funding in a budget that has doubled in the last 10 years, where our population has basically stayed flat, is the fact that with out-of-control spending, it has allowed fraud to go unchecked.
• 1:37:15
  SPEAKER_49: Under my administration, just like I have already helped with a balanced budget over the last biennium and putting in fraud protection plans, that is what you would see for me as your next governor and the leader in this state.
• 1:37:28
  SPEAKER_11: And thank you.
• 1:37:31
  SPEAKER_15: Here is uh sum from uh Amy Clobishar yesterday during that debate.
• 1:37:36
  SPEAKER_44: Number one, my vision is growth.
• 1:37:38
  SPEAKER_44: My vision for Minnesota is growth.
• 1:37:40
  SPEAKER_44: I think that is the smartest thing we can do uh if we're going to uh reduce costs, if we're going to have a government that matches the drive and ambition of the people of this state, your drive and ambition, we must have growth.
• 1:37:55
  SPEAKER_44: So we know there's headwinds.
• 1:37:56
  SPEAKER_44: There's headwinds with these tariffs that I detest.
• 1:37:59
  SPEAKER_44: Uh there are headwinds with the cost of gas, the chaos in Washington.
• 1:38:03
  SPEAKER_44: But I view those tariffs, sadly, right now, as a constant, but they cannot be an excuse.
• 1:38:10
  SPEAKER_44: But to me, the vision is this top to bottom audit, make sure that we're cutting that red tape and moving that government faster and smarter.
• 1:38:17
  SPEAKER_44: Number two, innovation, expanding domestic and international markets.
• 1:38:22
  SPEAKER_44: And then, of course, bringing down costs.
• 1:38:25
  SPEAKER_44: That means health care, that means workforce, and um, and that means housing and childcare.
• 1:38:32
  SPEAKER_44: You can't have the workers you need if they're not able to afford their lives.
• 1:38:38
  SPEAKER_15: I have another lengthier clip that I'll share later in the show from the uh debate.
• 1:38:43
  SPEAKER_15: I want to get to our guest here in just a moment.
• 1:38:45
  SPEAKER_15: Um, a few things to touch upon um before we start the conversation with uh Representative Walter Hudson, who joins us on the comfy sofa here in the American Experiment Studio.
• 1:38:54
  SPEAKER_15: First, I want to direct you over to AmericanExperiment.org.
• 1:38:58
  SPEAKER_15: Matt Dean has a fantastic piece up this morning.
• 1:39:00
  SPEAKER_15: Senator Amy Klobuchar claims credit for mitigating the negative impact of the medical device tax, a provision of the Affordable Care Act that disproportionately affected Minnesota's thriving medical technology industry.
• 1:39:13
  SPEAKER_15: However, uh Klobuchar, of course, voted for the ACA, which imposed the tax and led to significant financial burdens for Minnesota companies like Medtronic.
• 1:39:23
  SPEAKER_15: While Klobuchar later supported efforts to delay or suspend the tax, the damage to Minnesota's medical device industry has already been done.
• 1:39:31
  SPEAKER_15: So I would encourage you to go to AmericanExperiment.org and uh check out that piece from Matt Dean.
• 1:39:36
  SPEAKER_15: But this is what I wanted to uh dive into as my kick off the conversation with uh Representative Walter Hudson.
• 1:39:42
  SPEAKER_15: First off, good morning, Walter.
• 1:39:44
  SPEAKER_07: Good morning, John.
• 1:39:45
  SPEAKER_07: Long time no see.
• 1:39:46
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:39:47
  SPEAKER_07: You've had quite the upgrade here.
• 1:39:49
  SPEAKER_07: This is amazing.
• 1:39:50
  SPEAKER_15: Welcome to the new digs.
• 1:39:51
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:39:52
  SPEAKER_15: Can't keep a good man down or something, something like that, right?
• 1:39:54
  SPEAKER_15: Something along those lines.
• 1:39:56
  SPEAKER_15: So uh we heard that clip from the debate.
• 1:39:58
  SPEAKER_15: I don't even know if you want to call it a debate.
• 1:40:00
  SPEAKER_15: Did you watch any of this yesterday between Amy Klumbuchar and Lisa Damath?
• 1:40:03
  SPEAKER_15: I'm not gonna begrudge you if you didn't, by the way.
• 1:40:05
  SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
• 1:40:06
  SPEAKER_07: I I spare myself such pain.
• 1:40:09
  SPEAKER_15: Um so you know, you have uh Amy Klobuchar talking about her vision for Minnesota growth, rooting out the fraud, cutting the red tape, expanding the economy, reducing costs of health care, housing, and child care.
• 1:40:21
  SPEAKER_15: Uh John Phelan has a piece also at uh AmericaneExperiment.org this morning.
• 1:40:26
  SPEAKER_15: I'll share with you just a couple of the finer points.
• 1:40:29
  SPEAKER_15: Um the headline is the DFL's 14 billion tax bombshell.
• 1:40:33
  SPEAKER_15: Uh back in July, the Minnesota House reported the DFL legislators and the Minnesota House and Senate unveiled the Minnesota Values Project Policy Agenda 2027.
• 1:40:44
  SPEAKER_15: It's the result of input from Minnesotans across the state that will serve as a guiding vision for lawmakers when they return to the Capitol in 2027.
• 1:40:52
  SPEAKER_15: The agenda itself is 16 pages long and it's filled with fresh spending commitments, some large and all on top of the budget, which is already in deficit.
• 1:41:02
  SPEAKER_15: So just how expensive would the DFL agenda be?
• 1:41:04
  SPEAKER_15: Now it goes into all the specifics here.
• 1:41:06
  SPEAKER_15: You've got health care,$2.8 billion, energy$4.5 billion, child care$2.6 billion, education$2.6 billion.
• 1:41:15
  SPEAKER_15: Overall, we're talking$13.5 billion.
• 1:41:20
  SPEAKER_15: So I think Amy Klobishar should have a conversation with her DFL colleagues about what they're planning when you juxtapose that next to what she was saying during that debate with Lisa Damuth yesterday.
• 1:41:31
  SPEAKER_07: 100%.
• 1:41:32
  SPEAKER_07: And and this is what they do, right?
• 1:41:34
  SPEAKER_07: They pretend that you're stupid or they count on you being stupid.
• 1:41:38
  SPEAKER_07: Uh$13.5 billion.
• 1:41:40
  SPEAKER_07: So that we're creeping up on the$18 billion deficit that we had under the trifecta in 23 and 24 with that amount of spending increase.
• 1:41:47
  SPEAKER_07: And obviously, you know, they already increased the state budget by 40% during that term.
• 1:41:51
  SPEAKER_07: So they're serious.
• 1:41:53
  SPEAKER_07: And I did take a look at that uh analysis by Phelan, and I think he's being extraordinarily gracious.
• 1:42:01
  SPEAKER_07: Oh wow.
• 1:42:02
  SPEAKER_07: Extraordinarily gracious.
• 1:42:03
  SPEAKER_07: Because as he admits in the article, this this is assuming make they they make a lot, he makes a lot of assumptions, uh, but there's some of the things that they're saying they want to do are so vague and potentially expansive that there's no real telling where the plane's gonna land in terms of what what it is that they're telling you that they're going to do, you know.
• 1:42:26
  SPEAKER_07: Um they're not specific, it's all feel-good language, it's hope and change 2.0, right?
• 1:42:33
  SPEAKER_07: Of we're just we're gonna do things that make you feel good, we're gonna do things that make you happy, we're gonna do things that uh make the world a better place, never mind how much it costs, you're not gonna pay it anyway.
• 1:42:43
  SPEAKER_07: Like that's the whole sales pitch.
• 1:42:45
  SPEAKER_07: And so the question becomes for voters do you really believe, do you really believe that your government is going to be able to provide everything that you need at no cost to you?
• 1:42:59
  SPEAKER_07: And yeah, and that all comes down to basically, to be completely frank, how smart you are.
• 1:43:06
  SPEAKER_07: Like, do you think do you think that just because the you're you're not pulling out your credit card to pay for it, that you're not paying for it?
• 1:43:12
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:43:12
  SPEAKER_15: I I don't want to wipe out too hard on the agenda itself.
• 1:43:16
  SPEAKER_15: I do, I do have a couple of questions though, because you're not hearing, at least I'm not, I'm not hearing any of these DFL candidates on the campaign trail talking about any of this.
• 1:43:24
  SPEAKER_15: They're they seem to be singularly focused on President Donald Trump.
• 1:43:28
  SPEAKER_15: Are you aligned with Trump?
• 1:43:30
  SPEAKER_15: They want Trump on the ballot.
• 1:43:31
  SPEAKER_15: That seems to be where they they've decided that's where they're gonna be able to bring out their base.
• 1:43:36
  SPEAKER_15: So when this agenda was formed, um, I mean, what was the expectation with this?
• 1:43:41
  SPEAKER_15: I mean, it doesn't seem like it was for you know for campaigns to run on.
• 1:43:46
  SPEAKER_15: Was this appealing to different lobbying groups?
• 1:43:50
  SPEAKER_15: Is this just looking ahead to what they want to do?
• 1:43:52
  SPEAKER_15: Because you can easily go and break down how expensive it is.
• 1:43:55
  SPEAKER_15: I'm just curious what the mentality was by the left when they went and crafted that particular agenda and what the motivation, what the motivation was.
• 1:44:03
  SPEAKER_15: Is this how they plan on handling the problems that we are ta are we're dealing with here in Minnesota?
• 1:44:09
  SPEAKER_07: Well, I can only speculate, but in politics, you have different messages for different audiences.
• 1:44:15
  SPEAKER_07: And the candidates who are out door knocking and who are on the ground or are going to you know chamber of commerce events and you know talking to normies, obviously, yeah, they're gonna they're going to boil it way down.
• 1:44:27
  SPEAKER_07: They're gonna try to pivot to Donald Trump, they're gonna try to stimulate people's emotions to uh motivate them to go out and vote the way that they want them to vote.
• 1:44:38
  SPEAKER_07: I think messaging like this agenda is targeted more towards, as you say, the the lobbying organizations and also activists, right?
• 1:44:46
  SPEAKER_07: It's it's coded language of hey, wink wink, this is what we're gonna give you if you come out and make sure we get elected.
• 1:44:52
  SPEAKER_07: This is what we're gonna give you if you get out there on the ground and do the do the uh semi um productive work of making sure that that we uh retain power, regain power, become a trifecta again.
• 1:45:08
  SPEAKER_07: Um but you know, make no mistake.
• 1:45:10
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, we've seen what the impact of Democrats in charge of Minnesota is.
• 1:45:15
  SPEAKER_07: More crime, yeah, poor education, crappy outcomes, vacant buildings in downtown, Somali gang violence.
• 1:45:24
  SPEAKER_07: Somali gang violence, right?
• 1:45:26
  SPEAKER_07: Uh if if you want more of that, boy, it's on the belt.
• 1:45:30
  SPEAKER_07: You got a choice.
• 1:45:30
  SPEAKER_07: That's the great thing about this situation here coming into November is Minnesota gets to decide if they want to be a declined, failed state.
• 1:45:41
  SPEAKER_07: And that's an option that's available to you.
• 1:45:44
  SPEAKER_07: You can choose it.
• 1:45:45
  SPEAKER_07: And if you do, that's on you.
• 1:45:48
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, good luck.
• 1:45:49
  SPEAKER_15: Good luck, right?
• 1:45:50
  SPEAKER_15: Good luck and Godspeed.
• 1:45:51
  SPEAKER_15: Well, and one of the things I want to get into coming up is I just there are these eerie parallels to what's happening with the unrest in France right now.
• 1:45:59
  SPEAKER_15: And I I kind of parsed out this piece from Matt Walsh.
• 1:46:02
  SPEAKER_15: It's a lengthy piece up at Daily Wire, but he lays out the specifics of what they're dealing with, and I'm reading all of this and I'm going, oh my gosh, this all just sounds really familiar.
• 1:46:11
  SPEAKER_15: Uh before we do that, though, let's go back to the blaster line.
• 1:46:13
  SPEAKER_15: Again, Representative of Walter Hudson joins us in studio.
• 1:46:16
  SPEAKER_15: That number is 651-964-0294.
• 1:46:19
  SPEAKER_15: And I uh believe we have a comment here from lawyer James Dickey.
• 1:46:23
  SPEAKER_09: Hey, good morning, John.
• 1:46:23
  SPEAKER_09: This is James Dickey.
• 1:46:25
  SPEAKER_09: Hope you guys are doing great this morning.
• 1:46:26
  SPEAKER_09: I was just hearing that clip about Amy Klobuchar talking about how she wants to lower costs.
• 1:46:31
  SPEAKER_09: And one of the things she mentions is housing.
• 1:46:33
  SPEAKER_09: But just yesterday, there was a new lawsuit filed where a builders' association is alleging that the unconstitutional omnibus bill from 2024 is adding$44,000 of cost to new homes being built in Minnesota.
• 1:46:47
  SPEAKER_09: So, how is Amy Klobuchar going to say that she's lowering costs when her own party that she fully endorses in every way is the cause of all the increased costs in housing for us in Minnesota?
• 1:46:58
  SPEAKER_15: Listen, Amy Klobuchar's no dummy.
• 1:47:00
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, I it she she has to be aware of all of this and is simply just ignoring it.
• 1:47:05
  SPEAKER_15: But he's right.
• 1:47:05
  SPEAKER_15: I it's in the stack.
• 1:47:06
  SPEAKER_15: I didn't I kind of figure I'm running behind this morning, I wouldn't get to it.
• 1:47:10
  SPEAKER_15: But yeah, that new lawsuit regarding the omnibus bill and the impact that it's having on the cost of new homes, it's it's it's absolutely staggering.
• 1:47:16
  SPEAKER_07: Well, and that's the thing is in in order to truly understand what's going on in Minnesota politics, it requires you to do something that I think a lot of people, perhaps most people, don't want to do.
• 1:47:30
  SPEAKER_07: And that's to embrace the fact that these folks are malicious.
• 1:47:35
  SPEAKER_07: They will lie to your face and feel great about it.
• 1:47:40
  SPEAKER_07: In fact, they they will lie to your face, act against your interests, yeah, and then congratulate themselves for getting one over on you.
• 1:47:48
  SPEAKER_07: All right.
• 1:47:49
  SPEAKER_15: Um, you're it's getting worse too, by the way.
• 1:47:51
  SPEAKER_15: I just want to point that out.
• 1:47:52
  SPEAKER_15: It's that's get that's getting worse.
• 1:47:53
  SPEAKER_15: I've seen it, I've seen, I've seen it get.
• 1:47:55
  SPEAKER_15: I mean, you and I have had sorry to cut you off, but you and I have had conversations about this in the past.
• 1:47:59
  SPEAKER_15: And you know, I think what we've talked about in the past really pales in comparison to what we're seeing now, just how blatant the lies have been coming from the left.
• 1:48:08
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:48:08
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, and and this is totally off topic, but just as an example that pops into my head is this whole thing with Hassan Piker coming into town, um, Omar Fate and uh Elon Omar bringing him into town.
• 1:48:19
  SPEAKER_07: That is them, that's them putting it in your face of this is how much we hate you.
• 1:48:24
  SPEAKER_07: This is how much we are doubling down, tripling down on how malicious we are and how much we despise you.
• 1:48:32
  SPEAKER_07: And we're so confident that we get to do whatever we want that we're just gonna throw it right in your face.
• 1:48:38
  SPEAKER_07: And then and then the expectation is that that either you're you're too dumb to push back on it, or that you're too weak to push back on it.
• 1:48:47
  SPEAKER_07: In either case, they're gonna really enjoy doing to you what they want to do to you after they win.
• 1:48:52
  SPEAKER_07: And it's the same thing with this.
• 1:48:54
  SPEAKER_07: It's like, yeah, of course we're increasing your housing costs.
• 1:48:57
  SPEAKER_07: Enjoy it, right?
• 1:48:59
  SPEAKER_07: Enjoy, and by the way, if you complain about it, you're a racist, you're a bigot, you're this, you're that, right?
• 1:49:03
  SPEAKER_07: Like we have our playbook, and and you guys are so weak that we know we can run it on you and score all day long because it's worked so far.
• 1:49:12
  SPEAKER_07: What are you gonna do about it?
• 1:49:14
  SPEAKER_07: Like, that's their attitude.
• 1:49:16
  SPEAKER_07: And the the the inability of people to broadly see and accept that folks who have been elected and frankly, a lot of their own neighbors have that kind of malicious attitude, is why we're in the situation that we're in in the state of Minnesota.
• 1:49:36
  SPEAKER_15: Talking with uh representative of Walter Hudson, uh, let's back up a bit.
• 1:49:41
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, I haven't seen you in a while.
• 1:49:42
  SPEAKER_15: How you been?
• 1:49:43
  SPEAKER_15: What have you been up to?
• 1:49:44
  SPEAKER_15: Did you did you go?
• 1:49:45
  SPEAKER_15: You went to San Francisco to get that in my game.
• 1:49:47
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:49:47
  SPEAKER_15: That was a while ago.
• 1:49:48
  SPEAKER_15: Okay.
• 1:49:49
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah.
• 1:49:49
  SPEAKER_15: Well, I went through and I perused your your social media because I'm like, I like to do that, you know, often.
• 1:49:54
  SPEAKER_15: I'm like, all right, let's go and see what's on and what was on your mind on your social media is a lot about what I wanted to talk about today anyway.
• 1:49:59
  SPEAKER_15: But I saw That you uh you made a trip to San Francisco, huh?
• 1:50:02
  SPEAKER_07: I did.
• 1:50:02
  SPEAKER_07: I got invited to this podcast called The Enemies Project, which is really fascinating.
• 1:50:06
  SPEAKER_07: I met a new friend.
• 1:50:08
  SPEAKER_07: Uh it's it's kind of ironic that the two of us who were on that podcast are both from Minnesota, and we actually live like 15 minutes away.
• 1:50:16
  SPEAKER_07: Wow.
• 1:50:17
  SPEAKER_07: So we flew to San Francisco to have a conversation on this podcast.
• 1:50:21
  SPEAKER_07: But uh he he's a conservative.
• 1:50:23
  SPEAKER_07: He regards himself as kind of a libertarian guy, Wilk Wilkerson.
• 1:50:26
  SPEAKER_07: You can find him on X.
• 1:50:28
  SPEAKER_07: And um he works in this space.
• 1:50:30
  SPEAKER_07: It's kind of similar to if you've heard a majority in the middle, that's not the organization, but it's a similar, I don't remember the uh the name of the organization off the top of my head.
• 1:50:38
  SPEAKER_07: But the whole idea is trying to bring the size together to have a conversation and like how do we make the this work?
• 1:50:43
  SPEAKER_07: Because that's not happening anymore.
• 1:50:45
  SPEAKER_07: Sure ain't.
• 1:50:45
  SPEAKER_07: Nope.
• 1:50:46
  SPEAKER_07: Um, and so that's basically what the conversation was about, particularly in the on the topic of immigration, Operation Metro Surge, and everything that happened earlier this year.
• 1:50:55
  SPEAKER_07: And it was a fascinating conversation.
• 1:50:57
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, we we sat and interviewed for probably six hours, and then they distilled it down to like an hour and a half or whatever.
• 1:51:04
  SPEAKER_07: Um, we need a special edition.
• 1:51:06
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, well, I'll tell the special edition would be something else.
• 1:51:09
  SPEAKER_07: I'll tell you that right now.
• 1:51:10
  SPEAKER_07: There's some there the the the the host was very kind in terms of the stuff he cut, I'll put it that way.
• 1:51:15
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, all right, but it was it was a fun time.
• 1:51:19
  SPEAKER_07: Um, and and it we got outside of the box.
• 1:51:21
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, when you spend that amount of time talking to somebody uh or talking to people, eventually the talking points are gonna fade away and you're just gonna get down to like what you actually think.
• 1:51:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, right.
• 1:51:33
  SPEAKER_07: And that was helpful.
• 1:51:34
  SPEAKER_07: I think uh w one of my big takeaways is that in order to have that type of conversation, everybody involved has to have a basic benevolence, right?
• 1:51:46
  SPEAKER_07: Like you have to have goodwill, you have to you have to believe in the project of we're here to have a conversation and learn something from each other and and to come out of this better than we came into it.
• 1:51:57
  SPEAKER_07: And again, going back to my previous point, Harry, not all wizards are good.
• 1:52:05
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, and that's the thing, is I think I think the general assumption, I saw a clip from Oliver Stone's uh biopic about George W.
• 1:52:13
  SPEAKER_07: Bush on online the other day, and I and I I had to giggle and then you know go cope because it it was it was depicting a scene of him in the Oval Office talking to his uh cabinet about how you know once we once we instill democracy in this country, then it's just gonna spread like dominoes because everybody wants to be free.
• 1:52:33
  SPEAKER_07: It's like, no, no, there's a lot of people on this earth who have no interest whatsoever in freedom.
• 1:52:39
  SPEAKER_07: No.
• 1:52:39
  SPEAKER_07: They're much more interested in oppressing their neighbors than they are in being free themselves.
• 1:52:45
  SPEAKER_07: And that's true here domestically as well.
• 1:52:47
  SPEAKER_15: Well, and when they're told the same thing over and over again, it just reinforces the mindset, and you get further and further away from individuals who have any desire at all of, for lack of a better way to describe it, meeting in the middle or having a conversation about how two sides end up working, working together.
• 1:53:04
  SPEAKER_15: The politics just aren't working that way anymore, mostly because you have a party out there that's embracing this Marxist ideology, and they've gone and convinced their base of voters to hate anybody who is even loosely associated with something that may be looked at being on the right wing of things.
• 1:53:21
  SPEAKER_15: And so it makes it near impossible to even have sort of, you know, those types of conversations.
• 1:53:26
  SPEAKER_15: And like it, you know, like I've talked about, it's just gotten worse.
• 1:53:29
  SPEAKER_15: And not to jump around a little bit because I don't want to go there just yet, but it's part of the reason why I feel this investigation, assuming that she's done something illegal, right?
• 1:53:38
  SPEAKER_15: And the evidence would be pointing towards that, why this investigation of Ilhan Omar is so important, because there's been such a lack of accountability that individuals have felt like they can just get away with what they're doing and what they've been doing for years.
• 1:53:53
  SPEAKER_15: And because of that, it really has exacerbated this problem that we've talked about.
• 1:53:57
  SPEAKER_15: They feel like this is the winning strategy, and I can keep doing this in perpetuity because no one's gonna hold me accountable.
• 1:54:03
  SPEAKER_15: And as I talked about earlier in the show, what we know about this investigation with Ilhan Omar, worst kept secret here in Minnesota, and a lot of people going, nothing's gonna happen.
• 1:54:11
  SPEAKER_15: We've been talking about this for years.
• 1:54:12
  SPEAKER_15: Well, yeah, we have, but nobody's had the will and desire to move forward and actually follow through with an investigation to see if anything was done.
• 1:54:20
  SPEAKER_15: And you hold somebody like Ilhan Omar accountable if she's been guilty of something, then you're taking a step in the right direction of beginning to change the dynamic of what we're what we're talking about on a long enough timeline.
• 1:54:32
  SPEAKER_15: It's not going to happen overnight.
• 1:54:34
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's been one of my greatest frustrations, and I think a frustration of a lot of voters and and constituents is and you see this sentiment expressed all the time on social media.
• 1:54:43
  SPEAKER_07: Uh, you know, there'll be another congressional hearing, right?
• 1:54:46
  SPEAKER_07: I've participated in a couple, right?
• 1:54:48
  SPEAKER_07: There'll be another uh story in the media revealing, oh, breaking news, more bad stuff happening, right?
• 1:54:58
  SPEAKER_07: And people are exhausted by that and they're they're sick and tired of stop telling me about how everything sucks.
• 1:55:04
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:55:04
  SPEAKER_07: Let me know when you're marching somebody out hog tied, right?
• 1:55:09
  SPEAKER_07: Dragging them through the streets, embarrassing them, ruining their lives for being the perpetrator of this.
• 1:55:15
  SPEAKER_07: And by the way, I don't want it to be some no-name person who I've never heard of.
• 1:55:19
  SPEAKER_07: I want to be I want it to be the person who's in charge.
• 1:55:22
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:55:22
  SPEAKER_07: I want to be the person who runs the deal, who runs the whole deal, the boss.
• 1:55:27
  SPEAKER_07: And with Elon Omar, you're getting closer to the boss of who it is that's actually at the root of all of this corruption until we actually see people who are in power, elected officials, commissioners, administrators, you know, people who have something to lose, something real to lose.
• 1:55:48
  SPEAKER_07: Not just somebody who, like, oh, we're gonna throw this person under the bus and then pretend as though the problem's gone away.
• 1:55:53
  SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:55:54
  SPEAKER_07: We need to send the signal far and wide that if you F around with we the people, you're gonna find out.
• 1:56:00
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:56:00
  SPEAKER_15: Uh talking with Representative uh Walter Hudson, he's here in the Center of the American uh Experiment Studios.
• 1:56:07
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, you can leave us a comment, 651-964-0294.
• 1:56:11
  SPEAKER_15: You can email John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
• 1:56:14
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, we didn't talk about this beforehand, and I'm notorious for doing this.
• 1:56:16
  SPEAKER_15: I assume you're good on time, right?
• 1:56:18
  SPEAKER_15: You're good to hang out.
• 1:56:19
  SPEAKER_15: Okay, cool.
• 1:56:20
  SPEAKER_15: Because we don't have any time constraints here.
• 1:56:22
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, I don't want to move off of San Francisco just yet.
• 1:56:24
  SPEAKER_15: You didn't make a comment in your post um how much you enjoyed the trip as a whole, never felt unsafe.
• 1:56:30
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah.
• 1:56:30
  SPEAKER_15: Um, I find this interesting because uh trying to keep a sort of an optimistic attitude, uh, we can turn things around.
• 1:56:37
  SPEAKER_15: We can, you we've seen other, you know, large metropolitan areas and states that have turned things around.
• 1:56:43
  SPEAKER_15: And, you know, there's an argument to be made that San Francisco, of all places, the places that I used to look to and go, I wonder what it would be like to do radio in San Francisco.
• 1:56:51
  SPEAKER_15: Well, you know, and then I arrived here in Minnesota and now I know what it's like, and worse.
• 1:56:55
  SPEAKER_15: Um, but you said, you know, it never felt unsafe.
• 1:56:57
  SPEAKER_15: You enjoyed your experience there.
• 1:56:58
  SPEAKER_15: It wasn't there wasn't sidewalks filled with feces and homelessness, and they seemed to have gotten things under control.
• 1:57:04
  SPEAKER_07: No, I mean, and and who knows?
• 1:57:06
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, I have a limited experience, right?
• 1:57:08
  SPEAKER_07: It's not like it's not like I traveled the whole city.
• 1:57:10
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:57:10
  SPEAKER_15: Those pockets, those pockets are nice.
• 1:57:11
  SPEAKER_15: There's pockets of down there in Minneapolis that are nice.
• 1:57:13
  SPEAKER_15: So we ended up.
• 1:57:14
  SPEAKER_07: Everywhere that I went, I was I was struck by a couple of things.
• 1:57:17
  SPEAKER_07: First of all, it was it seemed clean.
• 1:57:20
  SPEAKER_07: Um, it's it seemed welcoming, it seemed safe.
• 1:57:23
  SPEAKER_07: I never I never felt like, oh, this is a bad area, I need to get out of here.
• 1:57:27
  SPEAKER_07: And when I went downtown and um hung around and toured around and patronized some establishments and what have you, the the other thing that struck me was just the culture.
• 1:57:37
  SPEAKER_07: Like they were there the people were there were people from every walk of life.
• 1:57:42
  SPEAKER_07: Not unlike Minneapolis.
• 1:57:44
  SPEAKER_07: Sure, right?
• 1:57:45
  SPEAKER_07: And people were happy and they were having a good time and everybody was friendly, uh, and and it was it it's a beautiful city, right?
• 1:57:53
  SPEAKER_07: Um, so you know, and that's not an endorsement of the way they're doing things in San Francisco, right, or California generally, but I do I do think that sometimes maybe we overstate our case in terms of how terrible things are in certain places.
• 1:58:08
  SPEAKER_07: Um and and so it was just it was refreshing.
• 1:58:11
  SPEAKER_07: It was nice to to be someplace.
• 1:58:13
  SPEAKER_07: I had a similar experience with when our family went to New Orleans earlier this year.
• 1:58:19
  SPEAKER_07: Um now I felt a little less safe there than San Fran.
• 1:58:24
  SPEAKER_07: Uh and maybe that was just the because I went to San Francisco by myself.
• 1:58:27
  SPEAKER_07: New Orleans brought my family, so maybe it was a difference in vigilance in turn in my head.
• 1:58:32
  SPEAKER_07: But um no, I mean it's a a lot of these places it comes down to the culture of the folks who are actually there, right?
• 1:58:43
  SPEAKER_07: And what they're willing to tolerate.
• 1:58:45
  SPEAKER_07: And um, if we if we just started to apply that standard more universally, then I think we could probably come up with some better policy.
• 1:58:52
  SPEAKER_07: The problem is we've got these activists who just don't want to hold anybody accountable to anything, and I think that's what you're seeing manifest in France right now.
• 1:58:59
  SPEAKER_15: Well, yeah, and and you know, as we as we get to that, you know, you you bring up a point that I made earlier, because I don't I don't have a gauge yet these riots that are taking place in France.
• 1:59:09
  SPEAKER_15: It's France, it's hard to determine, okay, how much of this is encapsulating the entirety of the of the region.
• 1:59:17
  SPEAKER_15: Um you you again use the example of Operation Metro Surge.
• 1:59:20
  SPEAKER_15: If you're in a different state watching the coverage on TV, you think there's ice agents that are filling up every block of Minneapolis, and there's an on-the-street insurrectionist, you know, throwing bottles filled with urine on every street corner, and it's not the case.
• 1:59:32
  SPEAKER_15: The same thing with the George Floyd riots.
• 1:59:34
  SPEAKER_15: You think that the whole city is burning to the ground.
• 1:59:36
  SPEAKER_15: And that wasn't the case.
• 1:59:37
  SPEAKER_15: It was isolated areas, and so I imagine there's something very similar uh taking place in France.
• 1:59:43
  SPEAKER_15: One more quick point on San Francisco, and you know, generally speaking, Democrat policies are unsustainable.
• 1:59:49
  SPEAKER_15: That being said, you still used to have, and there are some places in the country, including, I think you can look to St.
• 1:59:55
  SPEAKER_15: Paul, where they, even with Democrat leadership, they know how to prioritize things that are important like safety.
• 2:00:03
  SPEAKER_15: And when you juxtapose St.
• 2:00:04
  SPEAKER_15: Paul next to um Minneapolis, there was an excellent article that was written by an individual who certainly was not a Republican or conservative by any stretch, but he was just talking about the stark difference in the way that they handle the on-the-street um smashing of car windows, for example, versus Minneapolis, and how in St.
• 2:00:22
  SPEAKER_15: Paul they have a more robust police department and they're taking care of things up front and they're they're handling the crime better.
• 2:00:28
  SPEAKER_15: And then right next door in Minneapolis, it's almost the exact opposite of what's taking place.
• 2:00:32
  SPEAKER_15: And you're looking at leadership that pretty much, for the most part, as I do a 6'7 thing on the TV, um, who for the most part uh share the same beliefs in terms of policies and ideologies, but they're approaching certain aspects in a much different fashion.
• 2:00:46
  SPEAKER_15: So you can get thriving, for the most part, metropolitan areas, even with Democrat leadership, if they have their priorities in check.
• 2:00:54
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I think the distinction, and and I've, you know, I used to talk quite a bit about the left generally.
• 2:01:03
  SPEAKER_07: I've started to shift towards specifically talking about the DSA left, the Democrat Socialist of America left.
• 2:01:09
  SPEAKER_07: Because I do think there's a distinction there.
• 2:01:11
  SPEAKER_07: You know, folks who identify as quote unquote progressive, even though I disagree with a lot of stuff that they're promoting as well, I think that there's a uh a huge distinction between the folks who disagree with me on a lot of issues but would like want to live, right?
• 2:01:27
  SPEAKER_07: Like they want to exist.
• 2:01:29
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 2:01:29
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 2:01:30
  SPEAKER_07: And they think that generally um, you know, living is good and being a human being and existing and thriving and not living in uh a squalor um would be preferable, as opposed to the DSA left, which they're just nihilists.
• 2:01:47
  SPEAKER_07: They're just they they're like it's like they have a cult of decline.
• 2:01:52
  SPEAKER_07: Um they're they're the folks who if you let if you put them in control, you would get Mao's China.
• 2:01:56
  SPEAKER_07: You know, you would have you would you would have children pitted against parents, you would have struggle sessions, you would have public shaming and you know executions, and tens of millions of people would die.
• 2:02:09
  SPEAKER_07: Um I mean you saw so Amy Klobuchar, I think it was Clobishar, no, it was Angie Craig.
• 2:02:14
  SPEAKER_07: I'm glad I caught that.
• 2:02:15
  SPEAKER_07: So Angie Craig the other day put out an ex post to her credit pushing back against Hassan Piker coming to town, right?
• 2:02:24
  SPEAKER_07: And say, and and it was really like if you read it, it was like really sanitary, soft.
• 2:02:30
  SPEAKER_07: It's she didn't come out punching like Walter Hudson would, right?
• 2:02:33
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 2:02:33
  SPEAKER_07: But it was just like, hey, you know, maybe murder is bad.
• 2:02:37
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
• 2:02:38
  SPEAKER_07: Like maybe we shouldn't be openly advocating for or platforming and promoting people who openly advocate for the murder of our political opponents as Hassan Piker has done explicitly multiple times.
• 2:02:50
  SPEAKER_07: So she puts that post out there and she just got hammered.
• 2:02:55
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, I bet she did by the DSA left.
• 2:02:57
  SPEAKER_07: She was she was like she was accused of siding with fascism because she doesn't want to murder people.
• 2:03:03
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 2:03:04
  SPEAKER_07: She was accused of being an APAC shill.
• 2:03:07
  SPEAKER_07: She's a she's a tool of Israel because she doesn't want to murder people, right?
• 2:03:12
  SPEAKER_07: Like to me, this is extraordinarily revealing.
• 2:03:15
  SPEAKER_07: When you when you when when murder is your standard and support for murder is your standard for whether or not you're down to clown, you're part of the revolution, you're one of the comrades, like that's that's our our litmus test.
• 2:03:29
  SPEAKER_07: Hey, how do you feel about killing our enemies?
• 2:03:32
  SPEAKER_07: Good, awesome, you're one of us.
• 2:03:34
  SPEAKER_07: If if that's how you feel about domestic politics, maybe you're a problem.
• 2:03:39
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 2:03:40
  SPEAKER_07: Maybe and maybe we shouldn't vote for you.
• 2:03:43
  SPEAKER_07: And maybe you shouldn't have a controlling interest in one of the two major political parties in this nation and this state.
• 2:03:49
  SPEAKER_07: But they do, they control it from top to bottom.
• 2:03:52
  SPEAKER_15: Well, and there's a tragedy in that with um with Angie Craig, because she's not running for office.
• 2:03:59
  SPEAKER_15: Right.
• 2:03:59
  SPEAKER_15: Flanagan is on the ticket.
• 2:04:01
  SPEAKER_15: So, you know, you do wonder, I do wonder, you know, would she have made that statement if she was still on the campaign trail and she was and she and she was the the nominee?
• 2:04:10
  SPEAKER_15: And I wish that would happen more often, but she doesn't.
• 2:04:13
  SPEAKER_15: You also sit back and you wonder with how close that race is between Tefoya and Flanagan, you know, how many DFLers are out there going, boy, there was uh perhaps a better choice over here than but it goes back to your, you know, to the DSA and the power that they have.
• 2:04:26
  SPEAKER_15: I mean, they're the ones that basically ushered that in.
• 2:04:29
  SPEAKER_15: Um, let's do this.
• 2:04:30
  SPEAKER_15: We have a lot of a lot of comments that have rolled in and questions for you.
• 2:04:33
  SPEAKER_15: I want to get to some of what uh I wanted to talk about with you.
• 2:04:36
  SPEAKER_15: Uh Representative Walter Hudson joins us here in the American Experiment uh studios uh this morning.
• 2:04:42
  SPEAKER_15: We're into the third uh hour now.
• 2:04:44
  SPEAKER_15: So let's go through some of what I got.
• 2:04:46
  SPEAKER_15: Uh you and I can talk a bit and we'll dive into some of the comments and the questions that have rolled in uh for you, uh Walter.
• 2:04:51
  SPEAKER_15: But first, let's go to one of the things that we mentioned a moment ago.
• 2:04:55
  SPEAKER_15: Um, I want to share some points from Matt Walsh.
• 2:04:58
  SPEAKER_15: This is a lengthy piece up at Daily Wire uh today.
• 2:05:01
  SPEAKER_15: The riots in France aren't what you think.
• 2:05:04
  SPEAKER_15: Um, if you had to pick a country that's given the left everything that they have demanded as part of its grand campaign to rid the world of social injustice, France would probably sit at the top of that list.
• 2:05:16
  SPEAKER_15: France has a government-mandated 35-hour work week.
• 2:05:20
  SPEAKER_15: So everyone has tons of free time, or else they make a killing in overtime.
• 2:05:25
  SPEAKER_15: You never have to stay late at the office in France.
• 2:05:28
  SPEAKER_15: But even if you don't have a job, no worries, you can still get free health care from cradle to the grave.
• 2:05:33
  SPEAKER_15: It's quite a nice setup, says Matt Walsh.
• 2:05:35
  SPEAKER_15: We're told.
• 2:05:36
  SPEAKER_15: France is not producing much.
• 2:05:38
  SPEAKER_15: The French aren't working particularly hard.
• 2:05:40
  SPEAKER_15: At the same time, they're taxing everyone into the ground and they're spending more on welfare than anybody else.
• 2:05:45
  SPEAKER_15: France collects around 70% more tax revenue relative to the size of its economy than the United States.
• 2:05:52
  SPEAKER_15: In practice, this means that businesses have to pay substantially more in taxes for every employee they hire.
• 2:05:59
  SPEAKER_15: Personal income taxes are higher, consumption rate taxes are dramatically higher, taxes on stock sales are higher, along with corporate income tax.
• 2:06:08
  SPEAKER_15: The result is that no one wants to start a business in France.
• 2:06:12
  SPEAKER_15: The employees barely work, the taxes are cartoonishly high, therefore there's no growth, there's no innovation, there's no good jobs.
• 2:06:18
  SPEAKER_15: Other than that, France is a great place to live.
• 2:06:21
  SPEAKER_15: Now, at the end of the piece, he says, the New York Times, not a friendly source, just reported the Trump administration has cut legal immigration more than any administration since the 1920s.
• 2:06:33
  SPEAKER_15: All it took was the will and desire to do so, by the way.
• 2:06:35
  SPEAKER_15: I mean, this falls in line with what I was saying before with the investigation to Ilhan Omar.
• 2:06:39
  SPEAKER_15: That was the Coolidge administration, which we're going to cover in an upcoming episode, he writes of real history, along with the rest of immigration restrictions of the 1920s.
• 2:06:48
  SPEAKER_15: Immigration from Muslim and African nations is down around 90%.
• 2:06:52
  SPEAKER_15: Visas from Asia are down.
• 2:06:54
  SPEAKER_15: These are meaningful victories.
• 2:06:56
  SPEAKER_15: They're the reason we have a chance at remaining a functioning country where so many other Western nations have fallen.
• 2:07:02
  SPEAKER_15: The reason they're lying about what's happening in France right now, the reason the media is pretending some students are just upset about school funding, is that they understand the stakes.
• 2:07:12
  SPEAKER_15: They understand that if Americans understood how quickly our streets could turn into Paris, Democrats would never win another election, or at least no honest election.
• 2:07:21
  SPEAKER_15: Preventing Democrats from opening the gates for these barbarians should be the single most important priority for every American voter from this moment forward, because if they win, as the shopkeepers have discovered in France, we will all be on our own.
• 2:07:46
  SPEAKER_15: So many parallels to what we were talking about with what John Phelan laid out, with what the Democrats want to offer with their pie in the sky,$14 billion underestimated plan, to what we already have with things like paid family uh medical leave.
• 2:08:00
  SPEAKER_15: I mean, what you see in France is a snapshot, and we've already seen little machinations of this in various controversies here in Minnesota.
• 2:08:08
  SPEAKER_15: But this would definitely be the future of Minnesota and ultimately the United States if the Democrats were to ultimately have their way under this new DSA brand of Democrat that's pretty much for the most part taken over the party.
• 2:08:23
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I mean, I think the one of the big takeaways from Walsh's work there at the Daily Wire is and and I like you, as I read through it, I'm thinking of Minnesota because it's it's definitely a model.
• 2:08:37
  SPEAKER_07: If France has done it worse, oh yeah, which is hard to imagine, but um definitely similar in methodology to Minnesota.
• 2:08:45
  SPEAKER_07: And what it comes down to is it's never enough, right?
• 2:08:47
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, how many times are we gonna fully fund education?
• 2:08:50
  SPEAKER_07: Right?
• 2:08:50
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, that sounds like something like as a verb, that's something you should only have to do once.
• 2:08:54
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, right.
• 2:08:55
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, it's fully funded?
• 2:08:56
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, then it's full then.
• 2:08:58
  SPEAKER_07: Good.
• 2:08:58
  SPEAKER_07: But no, it's always we always need more.
• 2:09:01
  SPEAKER_15: $25 billion increase since 2020 that we have spent on education here in Minnesota.
• 2:09:07
  SPEAKER_15: It's increased year over year over year.
• 2:09:09
  SPEAKER_15: And where are we at?
• 2:09:10
  SPEAKER_15: Dude, you know the rates.
• 2:09:12
  SPEAKER_15: Less than half reading, less than half math.
• 2:09:14
  SPEAKER_15: And that 26% proficiency in science does not get enough attention.
• 2:09:17
  SPEAKER_15: I've mentioned that a lot.
• 2:09:18
  SPEAKER_07: So well, and that's that's just it.
• 2:09:21
  SPEAKER_07: That is the distinction is the measure of success for the DSA left, for for Democrats who are currently controlled by that faction, the measure of success is how much more are we spending this year than we did last year?
• 2:09:38
  SPEAKER_07: That's how they decide whether or not they're doing a good job.
• 2:09:40
  SPEAKER_07: Not whether or not your kid can read.
• 2:09:43
  SPEAKER_07: We don't care about that.
• 2:09:44
  SPEAKER_07: Not whether or not your kid could do math, not whether or not your kid could do science, but how much more money are we spending than we spent the year before?
• 2:09:51
  SPEAKER_07: And why is that important to them?
• 2:09:53
  SPEAKER_07: Well, a couple of reasons.
• 2:09:55
  SPEAKER_07: Number one, they have it's their own financial well-being and the financial well-being of their political allies.
• 2:10:01
  SPEAKER_07: Because all that money isn't going to making sure your kid can read and do math, obviously, because they can't, right?
• 2:10:08
  SPEAKER_07: Where it's going is to the salaries of bureaucrats and administrators and nonprofits and all and all the folks who, by the way, in their free time are turning around and door knocking and campaigning and canvassing for the Democrat Party, right?
• 2:10:26
  SPEAKER_07: So it's a it's it's it's a snake eating its own tail in terms of we increase the budgets and we figured out all these ways to funnel that budgetary increase into our political machine under the color of law, right?
• 2:10:42
  SPEAKER_07: It's all legal, it's all above board, but it is as corrupt as Chicago under prohibition, right?
• 2:10:50
  SPEAKER_07: Um, so so that's what that's what's taking place there.
• 2:10:53
  SPEAKER_07: And what it comes down to is, you know, how much longer it's like Lucy holding the football, right, with Minnesota voters.
• 2:11:01
  SPEAKER_07: How much longer are you gonna fall for this canard that the problem is we're not spending enough money, the problem is we're not taxing enough people, the problem is that um you know there are too many people who are out there producing value who aren't paying enough, right?
• 2:11:18
  SPEAKER_07: That's the problem, right?
• 2:11:19
  SPEAKER_07: As long as that as long as people buy into that, which apparently somewhere around 50% do, which is mind-boggling to me, because the folks who I know, even the folks who vote for Democrats, don't actually live their lives that way, right?
• 2:11:34
  SPEAKER_07: Like even uh think it think about the folks around you, your neighbors, your friends, your family who vote Democrat.
• 2:11:42
  SPEAKER_07: Most of them, maybe some of them are living on the dole, but most of them they get up and they go to work in the morning, right?
• 2:11:49
  SPEAKER_07: And they and they in their personal lives they have a certain set of values and a certain sense of accountability and responsibility in their personal lives that is not exhibited at all.
• 2:12:00
  SPEAKER_07: By any of the people who they vote for.
• 2:12:02
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 2:12:03
  SPEAKER_07: That is mind-boggling to me.
• 2:12:05
  SPEAKER_07: It remains mind-boggling to me.
• 2:12:07
  SPEAKER_07: Um, but we get what we deserve in terms of if you're not willing to see that or not capable of seeing that, and you're gonna continue to put these people in charge past a certain point.
• 2:12:19
  SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna stop feeling sorry for you.
• 2:12:21
  SPEAKER_15: So if you could walk over here, uh Walter, you'll get a kick out of this.
• 2:12:24
  SPEAKER_15: You made a uh comment about Lucy and the football and Charlie Brown.
• 2:12:28
  SPEAKER_15: I'm not even kidding you.
• 2:12:29
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, my wife Melinda sent me that gif at the start of our conversation.
• 2:12:34
  SPEAKER_15: I'm looking at it right now on my laptop.
• 2:12:36
  SPEAKER_15: Lucy equals Democrats.
• 2:12:38
  SPEAKER_15: She posted that for you, even when it said it.
• 2:12:41
  SPEAKER_15: That made me that made me chuckle.
• 2:12:43
  SPEAKER_15: There was a comment that was made.
• 2:12:44
  SPEAKER_15: I haven't brought it up on the show, but I thought about it in the middle of when you were talking, and somebody had made an observation that um Democrats in Minnesota want to vote for other Democrats who govern like Republicans, and they continue to believe that that is going to be the case.
• 2:13:01
  SPEAKER_15: That's right.
• 2:13:02
  SPEAKER_15: You know, and that's why you have them talking the way that they do on the campaign trail, right?
• 2:13:06
  SPEAKER_15: They're focused on Trump because they they know that that'll drive people, they believe that'll drive people out to the polls, but in reality, no, that's what they want.
• 2:13:12
  SPEAKER_15: They want to continue voting for Democrats, but they really would rather have them going and governing like, you know, moderate Republicans for the for the most part.
• 2:13:20
  SPEAKER_15: I just thought it was a really poignant uh observation.
• 2:13:23
  SPEAKER_07: Well, I mean, I I think there's a truth to that, but I think it's a little bit more nuanced, right?
• 2:13:29
  SPEAKER_07: Because if Republicans were in charge and did what we talk about doing, you would get a lot of complaints.
• 2:13:40
  SPEAKER_15: Yes.
• 2:13:40
  SPEAKER_15: Like Angie Craig.
• 2:13:41
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I mean, it's like the the people like to everything is there's virtue signaling over discipline is a huge cultural problem right now, right?
• 2:13:53
  SPEAKER_07: Like people want to feel like they're on the right side of things, but they don't actually want to sacrifice to be on the right side of things.
• 2:14:01
  SPEAKER_07: Um that's what you know that that's why the pitch of let's just tax more and spend more and give out more goodies and make everything free is is so appealing to the current culture because it's like, ooh, I get to have stuff without working for it, I get to have stuff without sacrificing anything, I get to I get to I get to chase this allure of prosperity without productivity.
• 2:14:26
  SPEAKER_07: Awesome, right?
• 2:14:28
  SPEAKER_07: It takes a certain kind of internal maturity and discipline to accept the fact that that's not possible, right?
• 2:14:36
  SPEAKER_07: And in the past and past generations, people had that discipline because we because reality instilled it in them.
• 2:14:45
  SPEAKER_07: You you actually encountered situations.
• 2:14:48
  SPEAKER_07: You know, we had we had a generation that went through the depression, right?
• 2:14:51
  SPEAKER_07: You come out of that and you realize, boy, if I if I want uh to be warm, I need to rub two sticks together in order to make a fire.
• 2:15:00
  SPEAKER_07: Like I have to do something in order to get the thing that I want.
• 2:15:04
  SPEAKER_07: And that has been lost at this point, where where we're we're at this point where there's the entire swaths of people in our culture who think that they just get to have stuff because they deserve it.
• 2:15:16
  SPEAKER_07: And they deserve it because they exist.
• 2:15:19
  SPEAKER_07: This is not how nature works, right?
• 2:15:21
  SPEAKER_07: Like turn on National Geographic for an hour, right?
• 2:15:24
  SPEAKER_07: Like, that's not how it works.
• 2:15:25
  SPEAKER_07: It's not like, oh, oh, the the little the little uh baby bird that just got born just gets to exist by virtue of uh the fact that it's there.
• 2:15:33
  SPEAKER_07: No, yeah, things have to be done, actions need to be taken, um, and and protections need to be instilled.
• 2:15:41
  SPEAKER_07: And if you're not willing to do that, then you're gonna end up being on the menu.
• 2:15:46
  SPEAKER_15: Before we talk Ilhan Omar, let's get to some of these blasts that have rolled in for you.
• 2:15:50
  SPEAKER_15: Uh State Representative Walter Hudson joins me uh in in studio.
• 2:15:54
  SPEAKER_15: Let's uh let's set this up.
• 2:15:56
  SPEAKER_15: Uh I have a quite I have a question for you.
• 2:15:57
  SPEAKER_15: Uh you're obviously in the fight uh being a representative.
• 2:16:01
  SPEAKER_15: You know, you and I have been talking for for years and and uh have been talking about these issues.
• 2:16:05
  SPEAKER_15: How are you doing personally with all this right now?
• 2:16:08
  SPEAKER_15: I mean, a lot has changed since the last time you and I have talked.
• 2:16:11
  SPEAKER_15: There's probably more craziness now than there's ever been, I think, since uh, you know, we've had a discussion.
• 2:16:18
  SPEAKER_15: I'm just curious how Walter Hudson is dealing with with all of this uh as of as of late.
• 2:16:25
  SPEAKER_15: And I know I know you well enough to know that you know you can handle this sort of more esoteric question.
• 2:16:30
  SPEAKER_15: But I'm just wondering how you, you know, how's how's your mentality about it all right now?
• 2:16:34
  SPEAKER_15: You dealing with it?
• 2:16:35
  SPEAKER_15: Is it difficult?
• 2:16:37
  SPEAKER_07: I really wish you'd asked me this question after the election.
• 2:16:40
  SPEAKER_07: Um but I'm gonna be honest with you.
• 2:16:45
  SPEAKER_07: I'm at my wit's end.
• 2:16:46
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 2:16:48
  SPEAKER_07: I am at the end of my rope in terms of being willing to continue fighting for people who don't want to be fought for.
• 2:17:00
  SPEAKER_07: That's how I feel right now.
• 2:17:01
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 2:17:02
  SPEAKER_07: I feel like the people of the state don't want to be fought for.
• 2:17:08
  SPEAKER_15: Are you are we talking about entities, larger organizations, are we just talking about average individuals who just become complacent?
• 2:17:20
  SPEAKER_15: I can certainly see, you know, I it it people get very people get very accustomed to their routines and they adjust to the negativity in life to continue with a lifestyle that they're used to.
• 2:17:33
  SPEAKER_15: And so, like if you're living in in, you know, near downtown Minneapolis and you traverse a certain area, you know, for just as a kind of a weak anecdotal story, you typically go a certain way, but that area now, there's drug abusers and there's drug deals that are going on.
• 2:17:49
  SPEAKER_15: You can see it on the street.
• 2:17:50
  SPEAKER_15: Becca Thompson does her drives through downtown Minneapolis to show all the crime.
• 2:17:54
  SPEAKER_15: I think often what people will do is they'll just adjust their route so they don't have to look at it anymore.
• 2:17:58
  SPEAKER_15: They don't have to acknowledge it, they don't have to see it uh anymore.
• 2:18:01
  SPEAKER_15: You adjust to the to the lifestyle ahead, you know, in front of you to you know make sure that you can keep the lifestyle that you expect.
• 2:18:08
  SPEAKER_15: And I see a lot of people in Minnesota do that.
• 2:18:10
  SPEAKER_15: They just adjust to the difficulties they're dealing with without wanting to actually go and enact any sort of any sort of change.
• 2:18:16
  SPEAKER_15: Is this kind of what you're referring to?
• 2:18:17
  SPEAKER_07: I'll give you a couple of examples.
• 2:18:19
  SPEAKER_07: So the the bigger one that is further back would be COVID and the COVID response, right?
• 2:18:25
  SPEAKER_07: So objectively, looking back on that, everything we know now, like all of us who are complaining about the public policy, have been completely j validated in terms of like we were right, yeah, the government was wrong.
• 2:18:38
  SPEAKER_07: We were right, Tim Walls was wrong.
• 2:18:40
  SPEAKER_07: We were right, Fauci was wrong, right?
• 2:18:44
  SPEAKER_07: Heads should roll.
• 2:18:47
  SPEAKER_07: People should be in prison for that.
• 2:18:51
  SPEAKER_07: It's fine.
• 2:18:51
  SPEAKER_07: We'll just move on.
• 2:18:52
  SPEAKER_07: Why?
• 2:18:53
  SPEAKER_07: Because, well, everything's okay now, right?
• 2:18:55
  SPEAKER_07: The pressure's been lifted, the boots off our throat now, so let's just let's not rock the boat, let's just keep on keeping on.
• 2:19:04
  SPEAKER_07: Example number two, this Hassan Piker situation.
• 2:19:07
  SPEAKER_07: Juxtapose when Shane Gillis does a monologue on Saturday Night Live about gym shorts.
• 2:19:16
  SPEAKER_07: It's a national conversation.
• 2:19:19
  SPEAKER_07: We're gonna talk about it for days.
• 2:19:21
  SPEAKER_07: Are are women dressing too provocatively or not?
• 2:19:25
  SPEAKER_07: Film at 11.
• 2:19:28
  SPEAKER_07: A guy who says I should die, and everybody who thinks like me should die, is being hosted by one of my legislative colleagues, a sitting state senator and a sitting congresswoman, a colleague of you know Tom Emmer, Brad Finstead, all those, a colleague, a congressional person is bringing an advocate for my murder into my town.
• 2:19:59
  SPEAKER_07: Crickets.
• 2:20:00
  SPEAKER_07: That's what I'm talking about.
• 2:20:02
  SPEAKER_07: If if people aren't as mad as I am about that, I don't know why I'm fighting for them.
• 2:20:06
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 2:20:07
  SPEAKER_07: Why should I bother?
• 2:20:09
  SPEAKER_07: Like this does, this job does come with a certain degree of sacrifice.
• 2:20:13
  SPEAKER_07: And I'm not willing to make that forever if people aren't willing to pony up on their end.
• 2:20:19
  SPEAKER_15: Let's go to the uh blaster line, uh, 651-964-0294 as we talk with Representative Walter Hudson here in the American Experiment Studios.
• 2:20:27
  SPEAKER_41: Walter, please don't give up the fight.
• 2:20:30
  SPEAKER_41: There are a lot of us out here that look to you.
• 2:20:34
  SPEAKER_41: We appreciate you, we support you.
• 2:20:37
  SPEAKER_41: Anything we can do for you, we would love to be there for you.
• 2:20:41
  SPEAKER_41: There's a lot of us out here that need you in the fight.
• 2:20:47
  SPEAKER_41: We're we love you, man.
• 2:20:49
  SPEAKER_15: I should have framed all this by where are you like on the Andor Luthan scale of the what have I?
• 2:20:58
  SPEAKER_15: What have I sacrificed?
• 2:20:59
  SPEAKER_15: You know, everything everything.
• 2:21:04
  SPEAKER_15: Sorry.
• 2:21:04
  SPEAKER_15: I should make fun of you guys.
• 2:21:06
  SPEAKER_15: I should have that's how I should have started the whole thing now that I realize it.
• 2:21:10
  SPEAKER_15: I know in hindsight 2020, right?
• 2:21:11
  SPEAKER_15: I fight for a dawn, I'll never see.
• 2:21:16
  SPEAKER_15: Oh man.
• 2:21:17
  SPEAKER_15: I've missed I've I've missed your brother.
• 2:21:19
  SPEAKER_15: Let's go.
• 2:21:20
  SPEAKER_15: Let's let's let's go here.
• 2:21:22
  SPEAKER_42: Hey, good morning.
• 2:21:25
  SPEAKER_42: Uh when I was young and idealistic, I used to think that the Democrats and the Republicans both had good people.
• 2:21:33
  SPEAKER_42: Um, and I used to think that they just viewed the world differently.
• 2:21:36
  SPEAKER_42: The Democrats wanted to do right by everyone by eliminating injustice, and the Republicans wanted to lift everyone up by replicating success.
• 2:21:45
  SPEAKER_42: But they both wanted the best outcome for people.
• 2:21:48
  SPEAKER_42: Now that I'm old and jaded, I don't believe that anymore.
• 2:21:52
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah.
• 2:21:52
  SPEAKER_15: There's less and there's certainly less and less of that, right?
• 2:21:55
  SPEAKER_15: You know, it's one of the things that um I used to talk about George Bush relating to the border, and that he screwed up when he had all the power at the time to do something at the border.
• 2:22:06
  SPEAKER_15: And I would juxtapose this recently with the only president who could really do something, and we see proof of that now is President Donald Trump, because Republicans, you know, and Democrats have used that as a political football for years.
• 2:22:18
  SPEAKER_15: But I used to mention when it came to George Bush that even though I disagreed with some of what he did at the time, I truly believe that he he felt that what he was doing was in the best interest of America and the United States, even though I disagree with it.
• 2:22:32
  SPEAKER_15: I feel the same way with President Donald Trump on a host of issues.
• 2:22:35
  SPEAKER_15: He may be doing some things that I may not agree with, but at the same time, I genuinely believe that Trump believes himself that what he's doing is in the best interest for the country as a whole.
• 2:22:46
  SPEAKER_15: That's different than my mentality towards Democrats.
• 2:22:49
  SPEAKER_15: It's all very self-centered.
• 2:22:50
  SPEAKER_15: Yes, it's all very inward, you know, it's that godless hole that they're trying to fill, and it's filled with power and corruption and fraud.
• 2:22:58
  SPEAKER_15: That's right.
• 2:23:00
  SPEAKER_06: I wish that was an exaggeration, but it's not.
• 2:23:03
  SPEAKER_15: It's not.
• 2:23:03
  SPEAKER_15: It used to be, but it's not anymore.
• 2:23:06
  SPEAKER_15: What have I sacrificed?
• 2:23:07
  SPEAKER_15: Uh before I get to the next one, do you have any I don't want to I want to give you a chance to uh to retort to any of this if you'd like.
• 2:23:13
  SPEAKER_07: No, I'm just at this point, I'm in audience listener mode.
• 2:23:16
  SPEAKER_07: Like you got me captivated.
• 2:23:18
  SPEAKER_07: But no, it's a lot more common.
• 2:23:20
  SPEAKER_07: I I I feel the same way.
• 2:23:21
  SPEAKER_07: I feel the same.
• 2:23:21
  SPEAKER_07: And that's the thing is politics is riddled with hyperbole and exaggeration and reductive thinking.
• 2:23:32
  SPEAKER_07: And so when you say things like they have a God-shaped hole in their hearts that's filled with fraud, corruption, and greed, that sounds like, well, that's eh, that's a little bit of a performance.
• 2:23:44
  SPEAKER_07: Well, no, it's it's really not.
• 2:23:46
  SPEAKER_07: Like, that is an accurate statement.
• 2:23:49
  SPEAKER_07: That there is no reverence for the sacred, right?
• 2:23:51
  SPEAKER_07: Like, in fact, the more sacred something is, the quicker we should tear it down, burn it down, root it out, right?
• 2:23:58
  SPEAKER_07: And fill it with with whatever the inverse is, with whatever the most let's pour profanity into that hole.
• 2:24:05
  SPEAKER_07: That's that's where they're at.
• 2:24:07
  SPEAKER_15: Well, the leftists have become so power mad that anytime anybody displays any level of power that ends up grabbing the nation's attention, if it is not specifically aligned with the left, it is going to be torn down because they have to take whatever they can from that.
• 2:24:26
  SPEAKER_15: Elon Musk in a flying car, that can't be real.
• 2:24:30
  SPEAKER_15: It was an empty shell.
• 2:24:31
  SPEAKER_15: He didn't really do that.
• 2:24:33
  SPEAKER_15: Sydney Sweeney, you know, oh, look, she's naked in an ad, and everybody's paying attention.
• 2:24:38
  SPEAKER_15: This is a horrible display of women in sports.
• 2:24:40
  SPEAKER_15: And yet, this has been going on for years now.
• 2:24:43
  SPEAKER_15: This is where they've landed.
• 2:24:44
  SPEAKER_15: And the thing of it is, Walter Man, you get me all fired up.
• 2:24:48
  SPEAKER_15: It wasn't always this way.
• 2:24:50
  SPEAKER_15: There was a general mentality that we had in this country when I was growing up that, for example, even if you weren't a Christian, you understood the Ten Commandments was a really good baseline.
• 2:25:02
  SPEAKER_15: That was a really good standard.
• 2:25:03
  SPEAKER_15: Even though I don't believe in the Bible, I don't think God exists.
• 2:25:07
  SPEAKER_15: Those 10 things that they list off in there, yeah, that's a pretty good way to go and conduct yourself and how to go and live your life by adhering to those 10 commandments.
• 2:25:15
  SPEAKER_15: Well, what happened?
• 2:25:15
  SPEAKER_15: Well, they stripped it, they got rid of it.
• 2:25:17
  SPEAKER_15: They took it out of every public square they possibly could.
• 2:25:20
  SPEAKER_15: They tried to remove, you know, prayer from schools and replace it with their own religious ideology.
• 2:25:24
  SPEAKER_15: And now all you have is a party that's left out there grasping at any power that they can possibly get their hands on, no matter how irrational their arguments are, the lack of common sense.
• 2:25:36
  SPEAKER_15: It just doesn't, the com the common sense just doesn't exist.
• 2:25:39
  SPEAKER_15: This is where we've landed.
• 2:25:40
  SPEAKER_15: And it wasn't always, it wasn't always this way.
• 2:25:42
  SPEAKER_15: Not even close.
• 2:25:44
  SPEAKER_07: You know, yeah, and and that's a familiar argument.
• 2:25:47
  SPEAKER_07: We and it's true that we have drifted further from the sacred, further from uh the Christian roots of this nation to a I don't even want to call it secular, because it's it's secular, secular is almost like an absence of something.
• 2:26:02
  SPEAKER_07: What they're promoting is the opposite, like like you said, a replacement religion.
• 2:26:06
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 2:26:07
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 2:26:08
  SPEAKER_07: Um, but I do want to make the point that you don't have to be religious in order to recognize and appreciate what it is that we're talking about here.
• 2:26:19
  SPEAKER_07: Go read Ayn Rand.
• 2:26:20
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 2:26:21
  SPEAKER_07: She writes about this.
• 2:26:22
  SPEAKER_07: She was as atheist as they come.
• 2:26:25
  SPEAKER_07: But the whole point of her works is that as human beings, we are distinct from other creatures in that we get to choose, we get to decide.
• 2:26:37
  SPEAKER_07: We're not driven solely by instinct, we're not driven solely by whim.
• 2:26:41
  SPEAKER_07: We are not products of our environment.
• 2:26:43
  SPEAKER_07: We have the ability to choose to change our behavior, our outlook, our mentality.
• 2:26:49
  SPEAKER_07: Um, like Wilk Werkerson, the guy who I um sat across from in San Francisco on that podcast, you know, he said, and this was life-changing for him.
• 2:26:58
  SPEAKER_07: If you go back and you watch that, he came, he came to a point in his life, he used to live a very different life than he lives now.
• 2:27:04
  SPEAKER_07: Very different life.
• 2:27:06
  SPEAKER_07: He got to the point where he decided, you know what?
• 2:27:09
  SPEAKER_07: I get to decide my reaction.
• 2:27:13
  SPEAKER_07: I get to decide how I react.
• 2:27:16
  SPEAKER_07: Changed his life.
• 2:27:18
  SPEAKER_07: That's Ayn Rand's point.
• 2:27:21
  SPEAKER_07: It's also part of the Christian point of you can choose to be different.
• 2:27:32
  SPEAKER_07: Our enemies hate that.
• 2:27:37
  SPEAKER_07: What they preach fundamentally is a complete lack of accountability.
• 2:27:42
  SPEAKER_07: Nothing's your fault.
• 2:27:44
  SPEAKER_07: Nothing.
• 2:27:45
  SPEAKER_07: It's gratitude versus grievance.
• 2:27:48
  SPEAKER_07: Those of us who are normies who are on our side of the argument, we're grateful for our country, we're patriotic.
• 2:27:55
  SPEAKER_07: What is patriotism?
• 2:27:56
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, I'm so glad to be an American.
• 2:27:57
  SPEAKER_07: I love being an American.
• 2:27:59
  SPEAKER_07: USA, USA.
• 2:28:00
  SPEAKER_07: That's gratitude.
• 2:28:02
  SPEAKER_07: Colin Kaepernick, grievance.
• 2:28:05
  SPEAKER_07: This place sucks.
• 2:28:06
  SPEAKER_07: Ilhan Omar.
• 2:28:07
  SPEAKER_07: As I'm getting paid millions of dollars to throw a ball around, right?
• 2:28:11
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but in an imaginary land, there were my shut up.
• 2:28:17
  SPEAKER_07: Right?
• 2:28:18
  SPEAKER_07: But that's a choice.
• 2:28:19
  SPEAKER_07: You choose whether or not you're you're going to live your life with a with a sense of purpose and gratitude and productivity and vision and aspiration.
• 2:28:31
  SPEAKER_07: You're gonna be we whether or not you're gonna be looking up or whether or not you're gonna be looking down and kicking your feet and just grinding your teeth and rending your robes.
• 2:28:40
  SPEAKER_07: And that's the left.
• 2:28:42
  SPEAKER_07: They are the grinders.
• 2:28:44
  SPEAKER_07: They are they are they are kicking their feet and they're and they're coming for you, right?
• 2:28:49
  SPEAKER_07: Like they've they have chosen a path of darkness that is self-destructive but not contained, and that's the problem.
• 2:28:57
  SPEAKER_07: They will come after you and they will come after yours.
• 2:29:00
  SPEAKER_27: Hey, Walter, when you were in New Orleans, did you happen to go to the French quarter?
• 2:29:05
  SPEAKER_27: And when you were there, did you get asked, hey, I know where you've got your shoes.
• 2:29:13
  SPEAKER_15: I'm not following that one.
• 2:29:14
  SPEAKER_15: I'm not either.
• 2:29:15
  SPEAKER_15: I don't, I don't, I don't, I, I, that one I don't know.
• 2:29:18
  SPEAKER_15: I don't I don't like it.
• 2:29:20
  SPEAKER_15: I think we took a trolley ride through the French quarter.
• 2:29:22
  SPEAKER_07: I don't think we spent a lot of time there.
• 2:29:24
  SPEAKER_07: I mean actually, no, I take that back.
• 2:29:28
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, we did spend some time in the French quarter.
• 2:29:29
  SPEAKER_07: It was fun.
• 2:29:30
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah.
• 2:29:30
  SPEAKER_15: Uh let's go.
• 2:29:33
  SPEAKER_15: Uh let's see.
• 2:29:35
  SPEAKER_15: Let's go here.
• 2:29:36
  SPEAKER_35: Hey, John, Susie here from Woodbury Flesh, Florida.
• 2:29:40
  SPEAKER_35: Um, so if the Republicans, of which I run across many, and moderate Democrats get out and vote, and we happen to win this midterm, can you imagine what the city of Minneapolis is gonna look like?
• 2:29:54
  SPEAKER_35: I hope the ICE comes in prepared.
• 2:29:57
  SPEAKER_35: Thanks.
• 2:29:59
  SPEAKER_15: Well, I think the city of Minneapolis without a wholesale change in the leadership altogether.
• 2:30:03
  SPEAKER_15: I mean, it isn't like when it comes to the elections coming up, I don't see any any change to the leadership in Minneapolis that having uh that having much of an impact statewide.
• 2:30:12
  SPEAKER_07: Well, I mean, the I I guess the implication there is are we gonna have riots in the street if if the election doesn't go the way the left won.
• 2:30:19
  SPEAKER_15: Oh, yeah, and I don't, I don't, I, I don't necessarily see I mean for as much as Keith Ellison may, you know, say get out there and fight, you know, or we're gonna fight if we don't win.
• 2:30:27
  SPEAKER_15: I I don't I mean I could be wrong.
• 2:30:29
  SPEAKER_15: I don't know what a year what do you think?
• 2:30:31
  SPEAKER_07: Well, listen, when you're bringing Hassan Piker to town, right?
• 2:30:34
  SPEAKER_07: Um uh uh people people joke around and maybe there's truth to it that the defunding of uh US AID USAID um is the reason why we haven't seen another summer of love.
• 2:30:45
  SPEAKER_07: Um but yeah, I I don't know.
• 2:30:47
  SPEAKER_07: Like the the bottom line is I really am dissatisfied with the way that Operation Metro Surge was um engaged in, administrated, the way it went down on both sides of the scale, right?
• 2:31:03
  SPEAKER_07: So on on one side, I feel as though Christy Gnome was very sloppy in terms of her implementation of uh the operation, but then on the other side, I'm extraordinarily disappointed that it ended the way that it did.
• 2:31:19
  SPEAKER_07: Like people there were there were people blocking streets and stopping cars and IDing them who had no lawful authority to do so.
• 2:31:30
  SPEAKER_07: Why are they not in prison right now?
• 2:31:31
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah.
• 2:31:33
  SPEAKER_07: Did do they still have jobs?
• 2:31:35
  SPEAKER_07: Are they are like there's just no consequences?
• 2:31:38
  SPEAKER_15: I think the first part influenced the second part.
• 2:31:40
  SPEAKER_15: I think the first I think the first part where they executed it poorly when it started, yeah, by the time they got their act together, I think there was there was a uh uh they were frozen by fear of of going and doing of and and continue like okay, we've kind of rided the ship on this, we need to wrap it up, and let's not go and rock the boat anymore.
• 2:32:00
  SPEAKER_15: When in reality is, no, you should have corrected it and then you should have seen through with the plan and and finished it off the way you were supposed to.
• 2:32:07
  SPEAKER_07: You should have come correct to begin with and followed through and been consistent.
• 2:32:12
  SPEAKER_07: And and this is one of my biggest disappointments, and again, this is probably a better post-election conversation, but whatever.
• 2:32:19
  SPEAKER_07: Um one of my biggest disappointments with these first two years of this new Trump administration is the fact that we haven't gotten what we thought we were gonna get in terms of accountability for all of these people.
• 2:32:32
  SPEAKER_07: Like I expected, you know, we got a couple of big fish, right?
• 2:32:36
  SPEAKER_15: Like Adam Schiff, Bolton, yeah.
• 2:32:39
  SPEAKER_15: There, I had a lit, I had a list, I don't have it in front of me, but they weren't they weren't game.
• 2:32:43
  SPEAKER_15: See, to me, Ilhan Omar is a game changer.
• 2:32:46
  SPEAKER_15: That to me could be a game changer, but what we've seen so far has been more of a smattering.
• 2:32:51
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, for the most part.
• 2:32:52
  SPEAKER_07: And it's like that and you can't tell me you don't have the resources, right?
• 2:32:55
  SPEAKER_07: Like you could defund these people.
• 2:32:57
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, you could seize their assets, you could put their leaders in jail.
• 2:33:01
  SPEAKER_07: We have Rico, right?
• 2:33:03
  SPEAKER_07: Go after them the same way you went after the mob.
• 2:33:06
  SPEAKER_07: Uh and you've had two years to do it.
• 2:33:08
  SPEAKER_07: There, there should be legions of these leftist insurgents in federal prison today.
• 2:33:15
  SPEAKER_07: And that's what you're gonna have to do, by the way.
• 2:33:17
  SPEAKER_07: They're never going to stop.
• 2:33:19
  SPEAKER_07: You're not gonna shame them.
• 2:33:20
  SPEAKER_07: You know, it's like the speech from Terminator.
• 2:33:22
  SPEAKER_07: You can't reason with them, you can't negotiate with them, right?
• 2:33:25
  SPEAKER_07: He will not stop until you're dead.
• 2:33:27
  SPEAKER_07: That's what you're up against with the DSA left.
• 2:33:30
  SPEAKER_07: You have they have to be defunded and imprisoned.
• 2:33:33
  SPEAKER_07: That's it.
• 2:33:34
  SPEAKER_07: Under the law, right?
• 2:33:35
  SPEAKER_07: Like, we don't advocate for the lawlessness that they advocate for, but you have the tools at your disposal to stamp them out metaphorically.
• 2:33:45
  SPEAKER_07: And it's a choice not to do it, which is again part of the reason why I have this, why I'm at the end of my rope.
• 2:33:50
  SPEAKER_07: It's like, why are we not like we actually have the power and we're not gonna use it to defend ourselves and our future and our kids?
• 2:33:58
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, well, then I what am I doing then?
• 2:34:00
  SPEAKER_07: What's the point?
• 2:34:01
  SPEAKER_15: We're talking with uh Representative Walter Hudson.
• 2:34:03
  SPEAKER_15: We're going to continue the conversation.
• 2:34:05
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, we'll get back to more of your blasts in just a moment.
• 2:34:07
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• 2:34:13
  SPEAKER_15: We have clarification on the shoes thing, by the way.
• 2:34:15
  SPEAKER_15: So we'll get to that uh coming up in just a moment.
• 2:34:17
  SPEAKER_15: Also, I completely forgot that I had this.
• 2:34:21
  SPEAKER_15: I am 99% sure that I have the last interview that Ilhan Omar did publicly before she disappeared from the spotlight.
• 2:34:30
  SPEAKER_15: She was actually at an event last Saturday, the 10th, prior to her home being raided.
• 2:34:35
  SPEAKER_15: She was in Seattle at a care event and she was interviewed by somebody there.
• 2:34:39
  SPEAKER_15: I want to play you that audio coming up.
• 2:34:41
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, you had an interesting post online about the, you know, what this could potentially be all about that we'll get into in the final half hour of the show.
• 2:34:49
  SPEAKER_15: And again, I need to ask, you're still good on time, right?
• 2:34:51
  SPEAKER_15: I'm keeping you towards the end now.
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  SPEAKER_27: People would continue if they walk up to us and ask us, hello, I know where you got your shoes.
• 2:39:01
  SPEAKER_27: We thought they were trying to rob us.
• 2:39:03
  SPEAKER_27: We didn't feel fit.
• 2:39:04
  SPEAKER_27: Until I asked one of the gentlemen what the heck you're talking about, and then they go into their field, they're recovering alcoholics, and they shine your shoes for a kick.
• 2:39:13
  SPEAKER_27: So I was just wondering if maybe that happened to Walter while he was there as well.
• 2:39:18
  SPEAKER_06: Nope.
• 2:39:19
  SPEAKER_15: I had people that asked me about my shoes, but they just asked if I got them from if they were uh Bonicelli's.
• 2:39:24
  SPEAKER_15: So that's congratulations to like the three people that got that joke.
• 2:39:27
  SPEAKER_22: Hey, Walter Steve from Andover.
• 2:39:30
  SPEAKER_22: Besides the John Justice show and then Justice and True, and then of course the Minnesota Beer Cast.
• 2:39:36
  SPEAKER_22: One of my favorite shows was closing argument with Walter Hudson.
• 2:39:41
  SPEAKER_22: Just wanted to say that you have a special place in my heart for all those years you put in late night.
• 2:39:48
  SPEAKER_22: Thank you.
• 2:39:49
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, it's a nice little reminder of how far back all of this, uh, all of this goes.
• 2:39:52
  SPEAKER_15: Who would have thought all those years ago, Walter, that you and I would be sitting here where we are currently sitting sitting predicted that, right?
• 2:40:02
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 2:40:03
  SPEAKER_07: I the the funniest part about that, and though those were a hard three years because in order to be able to do that show, because you know, I I know people think that we you're in this business, therefore you're just swimming in the dough, right?
• 2:40:17
  SPEAKER_15: Uh was not getting my million-dollar junky dad shoes.
• 2:40:21
  SPEAKER_07: That's right.
• 2:40:21
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 2:40:21
  SPEAKER_07: No, I had to work a full-time job in order to support being able to do that show for three years, and my days would start at like five in the morning and end at you know, midnight or whatever for three years straight, Monday through Friday.
• 2:40:33
  SPEAKER_07: Um and when I when I finally got exhausted and couldn't do it anymore, I told myself, well, you know, I've said everything I have to say.
• 2:40:42
  SPEAKER_07: And then COVID happened.
• 2:40:43
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 2:40:44
  SPEAKER_06: And suddenly I had a lot more to say.
• 2:40:46
  SPEAKER_15: So here we are.
• 2:40:48
  SPEAKER_15: Closing argument was the uh, and I've told the story to Walter before, but the villain in my uh embark book, I actually took from closing argument.
• 2:40:57
  SPEAKER_15: I saw a screen grab of closing argument, but the wording was framed, so some of the letters were cut out, and that's where I got my sent to Argum because I only saw part of the closing argument and I changed it up.
• 2:41:09
  SPEAKER_15: So nice.
• 2:41:10
  SPEAKER_15: Uh you know what?
• 2:41:10
  SPEAKER_15: I uh absolutely uh deserve if I can pull it up uh fast enough.
• 2:41:15
  SPEAKER_15: Unfortunately, like my button bar over here isn't as fast as the other one.
• 2:41:19
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, that's right.
• 2:41:21
  SPEAKER_15: All right, uh, let's go here.
• 2:41:22
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, this was the news that broke overnight.
• 2:41:31
  SPEAKER_05: We're also told investigators have her personal passport.
• 2:41:34
  SPEAKER_05: Authorities tell Fox they believe Omar is still in the U.S.
• 2:41:38
  SPEAKER_05: The Justice and Homeland Security Departments declined to comment, citing the ongoing probe.
• 2:41:42
  SPEAKER_05: Congresswoman Omar has not been charged with any crime as of yet, but we have been covering this investigation as it's unfolded.
• 2:41:50
  SPEAKER_15: So, also what popped up overnight was the renewed scrutiny over her uh recent husband, her latest husband, Tim Minette, who left his family after making a shocking declaration of love, and the winery that they own, and the fact that now it's been revealed that apparently that winery was selling off empty barrels of wine to individuals that they have yet to identify.
• 2:42:15
  SPEAKER_15: Now, what's interesting about this, Walter, is the fact that once again, much like Ilhan Omar and her immigration background, how much we already know about what she may or may not have done in marrying her brother, whether she is a citizen or not a citizen, you have individuals like Scott Johnson and others who've done the legwork on this.
• 2:42:32
  SPEAKER_15: So we've known all of this for years, but nothing's been done.
• 2:42:35
  SPEAKER_15: Well, the same thing rings true when it comes to these controversies surrounding Tim Minette.
• 2:42:39
  SPEAKER_15: When you go back to 2024, when Ilhan was in a race against Don Samuels in the district, you had Fox Nine covering the controversy back then, two year, you know, over two years ago.
• 2:43:10
  SPEAKER_13: Karen, it's nothing directly.
• 2:43:12
  SPEAKER_13: Her husband is Tim Myette, and his consulting firm legally got about three million dollars from her 2020 campaign.
• 2:43:21
  SPEAKER_13: Now he's a business partner in a few business ventures that are involved in lawsuits, claiming his companies have made money disappear.
• 2:43:29
  SPEAKER_13: In the case of Tim Minette, whose LinkedIn page shows he was a partner in the E Street group along with Will Haler, there's no publicly known criminal investigation, but there may be something behind the scenes.
• 2:43:41
  SPEAKER_29: We have connected with federal law enforcement on this.
• 2:43:45
  SPEAKER_29: I believe that they're looking into it as we speak.
• 2:43:48
  SPEAKER_13: Ned Horstead is the CEO of a South Dakota cannabis company that gave Haler and my net's company three and a half million dollars to kickstart investments, but ended up with about$1.8 million back and a court judgment, an IOU for the other$1.7 million.
• 2:44:03
  SPEAKER_13: Omar's office tells me she has no involvement in any business ventures, and the situation reeks of political desperation.
• 2:44:17
  SPEAKER_29: That they never knew about three and a half million that came into the bank account.
• 2:44:21
  SPEAKER_29: They never knew that 1.7 went missing.
• 2:44:24
  SPEAKER_13: The lawyers for my net and haler say they absolutely did not intend to defraud anyone in that cannabis business or in a winery deal is also the subject of a lawsuit.
• 2:44:34
  SPEAKER_15: So that goes back to the 2024 election.
• 2:44:37
  SPEAKER_15: Now you have House Oversight Chairman.
• 2:44:39
  SPEAKER_15: We played the clip earlier.
• 2:44:40
  SPEAKER_15: I won't share it again.
• 2:44:42
  SPEAKER_15: James Comer talking about Omar and her husband's winery reportedly shut down amid the fraud allegations involving the empty wine barrels sold to investors.
• 2:44:51
  SPEAKER_15: The picture that I'm seeing now, Walter, is that the immigration issue relating to Ilhan Omar's father, one, apparently they can't find any of the naturalization documents for her father.
• 2:45:03
  SPEAKER_15: And that actually has been also been known for years now.
• 2:45:06
  SPEAKER_15: A.J.
• 2:45:06
  SPEAKER_15: Kern has been exposing this.
• 2:45:08
  SPEAKER_15: But it looks like this issue with her father, Ilhan Omar potentially marrying her brother so that he can get citizenship, it looks like it's the thread that they're pulling on that could unravel all of these other things that we're currently looking at right now.
• 2:45:23
  SPEAKER_15: Right on down to Tim Minette and the controversies relating to his uh to his winery.
• 2:45:28
  SPEAKER_15: So uh your overall assessment on what's going on with this investigation, but also uh you had heard a rumor as well, and you'd shared that you had shared this on uh on X recently too regarding what this whole investigation may or may not be about, as I didn't ask you ahead of time if I could talk about this on the show, but I'm doing it anyways because you made it public.
• 2:45:45
  SPEAKER_15: So too bad, so sad.
• 2:45:46
  SPEAKER_07: Well, hey, I respect all of that.
• 2:45:48
  SPEAKER_07: I respect all of that.
• 2:45:50
  SPEAKER_07: Um well, first of all, wake me up when she's in handcuffs.
• 2:45:53
  SPEAKER_07: Like, honestly, like I you you can talk to me about all the investigations all you want.
• 2:45:58
  SPEAKER_07: Don't care.
• 2:45:59
  SPEAKER_07: Wake me up when she's in handcuffs.
• 2:46:01
  SPEAKER_07: That that's where I'm at.
• 2:46:02
  SPEAKER_07: Same thing with Tim Walls, same thing with Keith Ellison, same thing with all these people.
• 2:46:05
  SPEAKER_07: I'm sick and tired of hearing about how much they've screwed us over.
• 2:46:08
  SPEAKER_07: I know they've screwed us over.
• 2:46:09
  SPEAKER_07: I know they're corrupt.
• 2:46:10
  SPEAKER_07: I know we're living in the untouchables, right?
• 2:46:13
  SPEAKER_07: Uh we're we're living in Prohibition era Chicago and everything's corrupt, including you know the newspapers, the cops, the I know the the world sucks.
• 2:46:21
  SPEAKER_07: Let me know when you're doing something about it, is kind of where I'm at.
• 2:46:24
  SPEAKER_07: And I feel like that's where a lot of people um are at, uh certainly here in Minnesota, but nationally as well.
• 2:46:31
  SPEAKER_07: Regarding the rumor that I heard.
• 2:46:34
  SPEAKER_07: So you do have to wonder, right?
• 2:46:36
  SPEAKER_07: Because, and this kind of goes to your point of we've known this.
• 2:46:39
  SPEAKER_07: This isn't new, right?
• 2:46:40
  SPEAKER_07: Like, come on, like we've we've known she's a corrupt POS for a long time.
• 2:46:45
  SPEAKER_07: Um, so why now?
• 2:46:47
  SPEAKER_07: And what why at this particular moment?
• 2:46:51
  SPEAKER_07: And the rumor that I heard, and it's completely unsubstantiated, totally anecdotal, not claiming any sort of I just like a new element of the conversation for at a bare minimum.
• 2:47:00
  SPEAKER_07: Is that maybe what's going on here is that the Democrats are finally uh establishment Democrats, like the hostages within the Democrat Party, who have certain positions of power within their infrastructure, are finally at the place that I've been saying they need to get to, which is recognizing that they they have they are on they're on the bus in speed, right?
• 2:47:25
  SPEAKER_07: They are going 55 miles an hour and they're coming to a point where they're not going to be able to keep going that speed, but if they slow down, they're gonna explode.
• 2:47:34
  SPEAKER_07: So something needs to be done.
• 2:47:36
  SPEAKER_07: And so maybe folks who have some amount of common sense within the Democrat establishment are saying we've got to take these people out.
• 2:47:48
  SPEAKER_07: We have got to figure out a way to undo the damage that these DSA radicals have done to our party.
• 2:47:57
  SPEAKER_07: And so the the apparently the judge who signed off on this morning raid of Omar's residence in DC has some pretty significant Democratic connections.
• 2:48:07
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah.
• 2:48:08
  SPEAKER_07: And we're talking about a DC district, not exactly a bastion of conservatism, right?
• 2:48:13
  SPEAKER_15: It's like the last place you would have expected a judge to sign off correct on this warrant, right, would be would be in that region and this judge in particular.
• 2:48:21
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 2:48:22
  SPEAKER_07: And there's all these rumors of Omar fleeing the country or whatever.
• 2:48:27
  SPEAKER_07: So typically the way things work on the Democrat side of the equation is they circle the wagons.
• 2:48:32
  SPEAKER_07: And by the way, this is uh, I won't get into it, but this is one of the things that one of my major pet peeves is our side is so eager to throw people under the bus at the first sign of controversy and apologize at the first sign of being accused of something.
• 2:48:45
  SPEAKER_07: Their side circles the wagons, doubles down, triples down.
• 2:48:48
  SPEAKER_07: They're never wrong, they always take care of each other.
• 2:48:50
  SPEAKER_07: We golden parachutes, all that stuff.
• 2:48:53
  SPEAKER_07: Um there's a sense in the situation that that loyalty has broken when it comes to Omar, that she's scrambling, that she's not quite sure what she can and should do under these circumstances.
• 2:49:08
  SPEAKER_07: To me, that signals that people are turning on her from within.
• 2:49:12
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 2:49:13
  SPEAKER_15: Well, I mean, listen, that dovetails with my theory that I don't think that she's nearly as popular as most people believe that she that she is.
• 2:49:23
  SPEAKER_15: You know, I think that the her she has hinged her success upon her identity.
• 2:49:32
  SPEAKER_15: Um, she's done that her entire career.
• 2:49:34
  SPEAKER_15: She's treated, she's treated her position, you know, in Congress as an activist and not a leader.
• 2:49:40
  SPEAKER_15: And the Democrats applauded her and supported her for all of the things that she used for success.
• 2:49:49
  SPEAKER_15: They took advantage of that identity that she has grabbed on to.
• 2:49:52
  SPEAKER_15: Um, but you know, that is not a very deep pool uh, you know, of intelligence there beyond that whole thing.
• 2:50:00
  SPEAKER_15: She's not a she's not necessarily a bright individual.
• 2:50:03
  SPEAKER_15: I don't think she's nearly as popular as what everybody um thought that she was.
• 2:50:07
  SPEAKER_15: And I think that if these, and I think that's why you only have your Raskins, you know, Obama, whatever, you know, him trying to come to her aid.
• 2:50:15
  SPEAKER_15: Uh your Taleb's not a huge, uh huge surprise.
• 2:50:18
  SPEAKER_15: AOC is not a huge surprise, but those are pretty much the most prominent Democrats that have rushed to her defense.
• 2:50:23
  SPEAKER_15: You haven't really seen anybody else coming out and you know, decrying uh the Trump administration over this, and I think it's because a lot of people don't like her, and they're probably going to be fine.
• 2:50:33
  SPEAKER_15: Or they also know that if she goes down, then she's a domino that may end up impacting a lot of other individuals.
• 2:50:38
  SPEAKER_07: Well, look at this Evan Baker, I believe her name is, who wrote the book Nothing Left, who's just become a sensation online now on X in particular.
• 2:50:46
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:50:47
  SPEAKER_07: Um former Democrat operative who has basically come out and and wrote this book saying it the the Democrat Party is completely beyond saving at this point in the in the direction it's been going.
• 2:51:01
  SPEAKER_07: I think that that's it.
• 2:51:02
  SPEAKER_07: The fact that she was willing to do that and that she's been she's turned it into a successful enterprise, being able to point the spotlight back at all the things that the Democrat Party is doing wrong, that's an indication when you start to see forward leaders in that regard, that there's a larger thing happening under the surface.
• 2:51:19
  SPEAKER_07: And I I think what's happening is somewhat analogous to, you know, you and I grew up in the age of like Nintendo, like the original Nintendo, where you put the you put the cartridge in, and like if you were on a particular screen and you went like up, left, left, right, A, B, down, start, whatever, you cheat code, right?
• 2:51:35
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 2:51:35
  SPEAKER_07: It unlocks the you could just kill everything, never get touched, you're invulnerable.
• 2:51:42
  SPEAKER_07: For years, identity politics has been the cheat code.
• 2:51:47
  SPEAKER_07: All Omar had to do was be like, you're racist.
• 2:51:51
  SPEAKER_07: And then she could just dance between the raindrops.
• 2:51:55
  SPEAKER_07: What happens when we decide collectively as a culture we don't care anymore?
• 2:52:03
  SPEAKER_07: We don't care if you think we're racist.
• 2:52:06
  SPEAKER_07: We don't care if you think we're a bigot.
• 2:52:09
  SPEAKER_07: We don't care.
• 2:52:11
  SPEAKER_07: Well, then the cheat code is invalidated.
• 2:52:13
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 2:52:14
  SPEAKER_07: And now you actually have to play the game.
• 2:52:15
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, turns out you have no skill.
• 2:52:17
  SPEAKER_07: Too bad, so sad.
• 2:52:20
  SPEAKER_07: And I think that's what we're seeing to some degree.
• 2:52:24
  SPEAKER_15: This uh might be uh the last interview that Ilhan Omar did.
• 2:52:28
  SPEAKER_15: It's the last one that I can find at a little bit of uh background on this.
• 2:52:31
  SPEAKER_15: I'm surprised it's not getting more attention.
• 2:52:32
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, but she was a keynote speaker at the Council on American Islamic Relations, the Washington chapter at their annual banquet on the 10th.
• 2:52:40
  SPEAKER_15: Her home was raided on uh on Monday.
• 2:52:43
  SPEAKER_15: So that would have been uh this would have been on Saturday.
• 2:52:46
  SPEAKER_15: Uh let's see.
• 2:52:46
  SPEAKER_15: She apparently was the keynote speaker, and she did this interview with one of the organizers there at the uh at the event.
• 2:52:54
  SPEAKER_15: It's really interesting, sort of in hindsight, knowing that the raid was taking place two days later, to hear some of her comments uh regarding the event.
• 2:53:01
  SPEAKER_34: So as the first Somali woman in Congress and one of the first two Muslim women in Congress, beyond By the way, can I stop here?
• 2:53:07
  SPEAKER_15: Case in point?
• 2:53:08
  SPEAKER_15: Right out of the gate.
• 2:53:09
  SPEAKER_15: Right?
• 2:53:10
  SPEAKER_15: Yep.
• 2:53:10
  SPEAKER_15: Right out of the gate.
• 2:53:11
  SPEAKER_06: Left, left, B B Y start.
• 2:53:14
  SPEAKER_06: Let's just let's plug in the cheat code.
• 2:53:19
  SPEAKER_15: Sorry, that was that couldn't I had no intention of planning that that at all.
• 2:53:24
  SPEAKER_15: That worked out perfectly.
• 2:53:25
  SPEAKER_34: So, as the first Somali woman in Congress and one of the first two Muslim women in Congress, beyond representation, what does the fight for justice mean for you?
• 2:53:33
  SPEAKER_34: And also why are civil rights organizations like care so important for the work that you do?
• 2:53:37
  SPEAKER_32: Yeah, I mean, I I think um justice is very important uh because it allows for accountability, it allows for dignity and for our humanity.
• 2:53:47
  SPEAKER_15: Um I can stop this whatever you like.
• 2:53:50
  SPEAKER_07: You could it's just it's it's just I can't I can't hold it together with the tone that she replied.
• 2:54:00
  SPEAKER_07: She replies as if that was an actual question.
• 2:54:04
  SPEAKER_07: As if anything of substance was asked of her at all.
• 2:54:08
  SPEAKER_07: Given how awesome and protected you are, can you tell us more about how amazing everything you do is?
• 2:54:15
  SPEAKER_07: Well, I mean, just oh my the tone.
• 2:54:19
  SPEAKER_07: It's unbelievable that people take this stuff seriously.
• 2:54:22
  SPEAKER_15: You know, I'm not gonna lie, Walter.
• 2:54:24
  SPEAKER_15: I hope that just I hope you walk away with just a little bit of renewed positivity.
• 2:54:29
  SPEAKER_15: I hope I hope you I'm not, you know, I don't usually go, I I don't usually focus on that, you know.
• 2:54:33
  SPEAKER_15: I hope everybody enjoys their time here, but I do.
• 2:54:35
  SPEAKER_15: I hope you walk away with a little bit more optimism.
• 2:54:37
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, I'll be fine.
• 2:54:38
  SPEAKER_07: I'll be fine.
• 2:54:39
  SPEAKER_07: Let's get back to that.
• 2:54:40
  SPEAKER_07: We just need to get on the other side of the election and oh.
• 2:54:44
  SPEAKER_07: The worst time in the cycle for people in my position is two of them.
• 2:54:48
  SPEAKER_07: One is the end of session and immediately afterwards.
• 2:54:51
  SPEAKER_07: Like that's one, and I'm probably talking outside of school.
• 2:54:54
  SPEAKER_07: I won't name names, but one of the elder statesmen of the legislature in my first term, my first session 2023, when when the end of the session happened, put out an email to all of us being like, don't quit.
• 2:55:08
  SPEAKER_07: Give it a give it a week.
• 2:55:09
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 2:55:09
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 2:55:10
  SPEAKER_07: Think about it, go home, get back.
• 2:55:12
  SPEAKER_07: Like, like, this is not the time of year to make big decisions.
• 2:55:15
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 2:55:15
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 2:55:16
  SPEAKER_07: And and I think the other m time of the cycle that's like that is right now.
• 2:55:19
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 2:55:20
  SPEAKER_07: Like during during the because when you're coming up to an election and you're looking around and you're like, how do people not see what I see?
• 2:55:26
  SPEAKER_15: It's really hard.
• 2:55:27
  SPEAKER_15: Well, there's a there's another minute in this.
• 2:55:29
  SPEAKER_15: So uh and and I'm not even done.
• 2:55:31
  SPEAKER_15: I have one more piece of audio to share with you before I close the show.
• 2:55:34
  SPEAKER_15: I've been holding this all morning long, by the way.
• 2:55:36
  SPEAKER_15: Uh let's get back to Ilhan Omar's comments.
• 2:55:38
  SPEAKER_32: Um to be recognized.
• 2:55:39
  SPEAKER_32: And I think in this moment when we're living through um government sanctioned violence, um, government sanctioned intimidation uh and othering, I think it justice has to be a huge component of that.
• 2:55:53
  SPEAKER_32: And I believe civil rights organizations are the ones who protect um our constitutional.
• 2:56:00
  SPEAKER_32: Rights uh and without them we wouldn't be a country that actually allows for people to have liberty and justice.
• 2:56:09
  SPEAKER_34: And if you have any words of encouragement for our Muslim youth who continue to get more and more civically engaged and are wanting to kind of continue on this fight of words for encouragement, because again, you really do not stand down to this administration and when anyone sends you threats or anything at all.
• 2:56:26
  SPEAKER_32: Well, I will say um to the youth, you know, don't allow anyone to make you think that you are less than, um, that you don't belong, uh, and uh that your voice isn't as valued.
• 2:56:41
  SPEAKER_32: Um you're not the future, you're not the leaders of the future, you're the leaders of today.
• 2:56:46
  SPEAKER_32: And it's important that you recognize that you have something to contribute um to change the the environment in which um you're being raised in and growing up in.
• 2:57:01
  SPEAKER_07: We're all stupider for having heard that.
• 2:57:04
  SPEAKER_15: There is a uh uh it's minute.
• 2:57:06
  SPEAKER_15: I just want to I'm gonna hang on that audio though.
• 2:57:07
  SPEAKER_15: It's minute.
• 2:57:08
  SPEAKER_15: But there is a possibility that that could, there is potential that that could be like the last legitimate doing that thing with my inner my my fingers interview that she ever does.
• 2:57:18
  SPEAKER_15: There is a slight mine.
• 2:57:20
  SPEAKER_15: I know, I know, I know.
• 2:57:22
  SPEAKER_15: You have little faith right now.
• 2:57:23
  SPEAKER_15: I get it.
• 2:57:24
  SPEAKER_15: I know.
• 2:57:24
  SPEAKER_15: I'm optimistic.
• 2:57:25
  SPEAKER_15: I'm optimistic, but there's a slight chance.
• 2:57:27
  SPEAKER_15: That is the last interview that she's done since she's gone missing.
• 2:57:29
  SPEAKER_15: We're on Ilhan watch day day eight day eight.
• 2:57:32
  SPEAKER_15: She hasn't missed.
• 2:57:33
  SPEAKER_15: I won't be silenced, and yet she hasn't been heard in eight days.
• 2:57:37
  SPEAKER_06: I won't be silenced.
• 2:57:38
  SPEAKER_06: I also won't be here.
• 2:57:39
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, like I'm gonna that last post that she did Friday was just like, you know, it's really been great, y'all.
• 2:57:45
  SPEAKER_15: I mean, they really it had this air about it of like, I'm kind of cooked, I'm kind of done, I think.
• 2:57:51
  SPEAKER_15: So who knows?
• 2:57:53
  SPEAKER_15: Who knows?
• 2:57:54
  SPEAKER_15: All right, so we're just about out of time.
• 2:57:56
  SPEAKER_15: I've saved the best for last.
• 2:57:57
  SPEAKER_15: Okay.
• 2:57:58
  SPEAKER_15: You ready for this?
• 2:57:58
  SPEAKER_15: Yep.
• 2:57:59
  SPEAKER_15: So uh I found this one uh this morning when I was doing prep.
• 2:58:02
  SPEAKER_15: Just came across it.
• 2:58:03
  SPEAKER_15: I wanna, I wanna um set the stage with this.
• 2:58:06
  SPEAKER_15: Because often when I find uh when I find a piece of audio, I like to attach like something tangible to it to have in my stack, right?
• 2:58:14
  SPEAKER_15: So uh I found this clip.
• 2:58:16
  SPEAKER_15: I didn't have anything associated with it, so I thought, oh, you know what?
• 2:58:18
  SPEAKER_15: I'll go online and see if I can find something about this person that I can attach it to.
• 2:58:22
  SPEAKER_15: What I found was an article from the New York Times back in August of last year.
• 2:58:27
  SPEAKER_15: Um, Hope Walls reflects on Tim Walls' campaign as she returns to normal life.
• 2:58:33
  SPEAKER_15: Okay.
• 2:58:34
  SPEAKER_15: Nice little expose.
• 2:58:35
  SPEAKER_15: I didn't see it last year when it came out.
• 2:58:37
  SPEAKER_15: Um, she talks about despite the campaign's end last year, she remains active in politics, using her TikTok platform to engage with her generation on progressive issues.
• 2:58:49
  SPEAKER_15: So uh the latest of uh Hopewalls, Governor Dimwalls' daughter, in going and trying to help the next generation on progressive issues.
• 2:58:58
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, have you seen this yet?
• 2:59:00
  SPEAKER_15: Where she is explaining what DEI really means.
• 2:59:04
  SPEAKER_15: Oh, I can't wait.
• 2:59:06
  SPEAKER_48: Just to make this very clear, DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion means the most qualified person, no matter what external factors, whether that is skin color, sexual orientation, religious orientation, whatever that may be, gets hired.
• 2:59:22
  SPEAKER_48: The most qualified person, no matter what is going on on the outside, gets hired.
• 2:59:29
  SPEAKER_48: It is a successful and necessary thing.
• 2:59:32
  SPEAKER_48: The right tries to frame DEI as unqualified people getting hired.
• 2:59:37
  SPEAKER_07: So Hope Walls just came out against affirmative action.
• 2:59:43
  SPEAKER_07: I'm just gonna hand it to you.
• 2:59:44
  SPEAKER_07: No, I mean, that's what that is.
• 2:59:46
  SPEAKER_15: That's what I know it is.
• 2:59:47
  SPEAKER_15: No, I know.
• 2:59:48
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, and and and that's if if if her and I were sitting across from each other on these couches and you know, we were on TPT or whatever, uh, that would be my response is oh, cool.
• 2:59:58
  SPEAKER_07: So you're also against affirmative action.
• 3:00:00
  SPEAKER_07: Because that's what you just said.
• 3:00:01
  SPEAKER_07: And then she'd have to be like, well, no, I mean, it's like, well, no, you literally just said that the best person should get the job regardless of external factors.
• 3:00:09
  SPEAKER_07: Affirmative action is literally the opposite of that.
• 3:00:13
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 3:00:14
  SPEAKER_07: DEI is literally the opposite of that.
• 3:00:16
  SPEAKER_07: So are you lying or are you retarded?
• 3:00:18
  SPEAKER_15: I couldn't b I she said some ignorant things.
• 3:00:22
  SPEAKER_15: I mean, a lot of ignorant things.
• 3:00:23
  SPEAKER_15: That I that I I still am not a hundred percent convinced that that wasn't a completely a troll.
• 3:00:30
  SPEAKER_15: Like she's doing some some what's who's the guy that did the documentary with the Theranos uh uh chick that's out there, everybody's raving about the you can see everything.
• 3:00:41
  SPEAKER_07: Kunkan whatever.
• 3:00:43
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, the Nathan, that Nathan whatever guy.
• 3:00:45
  SPEAKER_15: I feel like she's maybe doing some social experiment with this because she couldn't she described exactly the opposite of what it is.
• 3:00:52
  SPEAKER_07: I I I do think that I do think there's a lot of I think what it is, it's like a form of gaslighting, right?
• 3:00:57
  SPEAKER_07: Where uh they sometimes they will just intentionally say the most obviously ridiculous thing.
• 3:01:04
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: Specifically to provoke a reaction.
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  SPEAKER_07: Well, I think it serves two purposes.
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  SPEAKER_07: Is that it's to provoke the reaction, but it's also to kind of test the waters of are people this dumb?
• 3:01:18
  SPEAKER_07: Right?
• 3:01:19
  SPEAKER_07: Like, let's let's test and see how dumb people are today so that we know how much we can get over on them tomorrow.
• 3:01:24
  SPEAKER_07: Right?
• 3:01:25
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah.
• 3:01:26
  SPEAKER_15: Just insane.
• 3:01:27
  SPEAKER_15: Couldn't, couldn't, couldn't believe it.
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  SPEAKER_15: For those that are watching on the stream, I uh put up a photo of uh of her saying what actually is DEI?
• 3:01:34
  SPEAKER_15: You know, I you know what, just for just for fun, let's um let's go ahead and just run that back one more time to make sure that we uh we heard it correctly.
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  SPEAKER_48: Just to make this very clear, DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion means the most qualified person, no matter what external factors, whether that is skin color, sexual orientation, religious orientation, whatever that may be, gets hired.
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  SPEAKER_48: The most qualified person, no matter what is going on on the outside, gets hired.
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  SPEAKER_48: It is a successful and necessary thing.
• 3:02:08
  SPEAKER_48: The right tries to frame DEI as unqualified people getting hired.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, so okay, now hearing it the second time, I'm glad you played it twice.
• 3:02:17
  SPEAKER_07: Because hearing it the second time, I think I suspect what might be happening there.
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  SPEAKER_07: So what what she's doing and the left does frequently is appropriating language to signal something other than what the word actually means.
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  SPEAKER_07: So in this case, the word qualified.
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  SPEAKER_07: The most qualified person, regardless of external factors, okay, define qualified.
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  SPEAKER_07: Good point.
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  SPEAKER_07: Right?
• 3:02:39
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_07: Because I guarantee you their definition of qualified includes those external factors.
• 3:02:45
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 3:02:45
  SPEAKER_07: They're probably repackaged as some form of lived experience or you know, oppression matrix or something.
• 3:02:51
  SPEAKER_07: Like in other words, everything that we know DEI is has just been what they've done is they've they've taken it out of the definition.
• 3:03:00
  SPEAKER_07: What she's done there is taken it out of the explicit definition, packed it all into the definition of the word qualified, so that she can then go around being like, no, it's the most qualified person.
• 3:03:11
  SPEAKER_07: What qualifies you?
• 3:03:12
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, the fact that you're gay and black and right, right.
• 3:03:17
  SPEAKER_07: That's what qualifies you, but you know, it's still the most qualified person.
• 3:03:24
  SPEAKER_15: All right.
• 3:03:25
  SPEAKER_15: Walter Hudson.
• 3:03:26
  SPEAKER_07: Dude, thank you so much for coming in and hanging out, man.
• 3:03:28
  SPEAKER_07: Thanks for the invite, man.
• 3:03:29
  SPEAKER_07: I'll have to come back.
• 3:03:30
  SPEAKER_15: We think of the new gig, it's all right, right?
• 3:03:32
  SPEAKER_07: Dude, this is it's an upgrade.
• 3:03:34
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, listen.
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  SPEAKER_07: Um everything happens for a reason, man.
• 3:03:37
  SPEAKER_07: Everything happens for a reason.
• 3:03:39
  SPEAKER_07: Up, yep.
• 3:03:40
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, it uh it's not like public radio fancy, but nothing is.
• 3:03:47
  SPEAKER_15: So right, right.
• 3:03:49
  SPEAKER_15: Well, it was great to see you.
• 3:03:50
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, anything that you would like to uh leave the audience uh with this morning before I uh before I cut you loose and uh play for those at listed, I have a brand new parody to share.
• 3:03:58
  SPEAKER_07: So I know I've been a little blackpilled today.
• 3:04:01
  SPEAKER_07: Um take it with a grain of salt.
• 3:04:02
  SPEAKER_07: It's just I part part of why it is genuinely how I feel, but part of the reason why I'm expressing it is because I I feel like this is where people are at.
• 3:04:12
  SPEAKER_07: Like I don't feel like I'm the only person who feels this way.
• 3:04:14
  SPEAKER_07: No, you're not.
• 3:04:14
  SPEAKER_07: You know, I talk I talk to people all the time who who feel similarly.
• 3:04:18
  SPEAKER_07: Talk to my wife.
• 3:04:19
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, we still gotta get up every day, we still gotta put one foot in front of the other.
• 3:04:22
  SPEAKER_07: You know, we're still called to faithfulness, we still gotta get out there and vote, we still gotta do all the things.
• 3:04:27
  SPEAKER_07: Um you can be realistic without allowing it to consume you and stop you from being productive and doing what you need to do.
• 3:04:35
  SPEAKER_07: So I don't know if that's a pep talk.
• 3:04:37
  SPEAKER_07: It doesn't sound like one.
• 3:04:38
  SPEAKER_15: Well, listen, you know, as as somebody who knows, and you know, having you know, having you know children and my sons, um it's difficult to see them go through hardships, but they have but they have to.
• 3:04:50
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, if they don't, they're never gonna be prepared for life in the in the future.
• 3:04:54
  SPEAKER_15: You know, you don't you don't invite disaster, but when it comes, you you as my father always says, you know, these are teachable moments.
• 3:05:02
  SPEAKER_15: I wish the things were better, but they're not.
• 3:05:04
  SPEAKER_15: Hopefully we come out better on the backside.
• 3:05:06
  SPEAKER_15: And you know, this country needs a revival of God-based principles.
• 3:05:11
  SPEAKER_15: And if we're ever gonna get that, this is the this is like the only way that's going to that's going to happen.
• 3:05:18
  SPEAKER_15: I mean, it given the current dynamics.
• 3:05:19
  SPEAKER_15: We have to go through hardships.
• 3:05:21
  SPEAKER_15: And hopefully it wakes people up and people end up, you know, being smarter on the back end and embracing the more meaningful things in in life.
• 3:05:30
  SPEAKER_15: Um, you know, and I don't think you were too blackpilled.
• 3:05:32
  SPEAKER_15: I know you well enough.
• 3:05:33
  SPEAKER_15: It's frustrating.
• 3:05:33
  SPEAKER_15: I get it.
• 3:05:34
  SPEAKER_15: That's why I asked you.
• 3:05:35
  SPEAKER_15: You know, that's why I asked you to come in.
• 3:05:36
  SPEAKER_15: That's why I asked you the question because I knew it was going to get an honest response.
• 3:05:39
  SPEAKER_15: And you do echo how a lot of people feel.
• 3:05:40
  SPEAKER_15: I compartmentalize.
• 3:05:41
  SPEAKER_15: I can't hang on to this stuff all day long.
• 3:05:43
  SPEAKER_15: I got to talk about it every single morning.
• 3:05:45
  SPEAKER_15: And I love to, but I break away and I, you know, go enjoy the stuff that I love because it keeps my sanity.
• 3:05:50
  SPEAKER_15: Um, individuals like yourself that are in the fight, you know, and serving, it's a lot more difficult.
• 3:05:54
  SPEAKER_15: And I completely understand that.
• 3:05:55
  SPEAKER_15: But I know everybody appreciates your honesty, and I do as well.
• 3:05:58
  SPEAKER_07: So I appreciate that.
• 3:06:00
  SPEAKER_15: All right.
• 3:06:00
  SPEAKER_15: Listen, that wraps things up for today.
• 3:06:02
  SPEAKER_15: Before I let uh Walter out of the room and let you go for the day, remember you can catch a uh a replay of the show in the afternoon on the Mix LR app, so be sure you go and download that.
• 3:06:11
  SPEAKER_15: I'm also doing a replay in the run up to the pre-show every morning in case you missed it.
• 3:06:14
  SPEAKER_15: But of course, you can just get caught up on the podcast.
• 3:06:16
  SPEAKER_15: That's available on the Mix LR app.
• 3:06:18
  SPEAKER_15: Uh, Devin will have that up shortly.
• 3:06:20
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• 3:06:32
  SPEAKER_15: So thank you so much for hanging out uh today.
• 3:06:33
  SPEAKER_15: I had to thank a friend of the show, Ken, for giving us a brand new parody that I'll share as we close things out.
• 3:06:39
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• 3:06:48
  SPEAKER_15: We're taking nominations now.
• 3:06:50
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• 3:06:54
  SPEAKER_15: So head on over to golden turkeymn.com.
• 3:06:57
  SPEAKER_15: Uh God bless.
• 3:06:58
  SPEAKER_15: Have yourself a fantastic rest of your Tuesday.
• 3:07:00
  SPEAKER_15: Again, thank you, Walter Hudson, and to everybody who left the comments this morning on the blaster line.
• 3:07:04
  SPEAKER_15: I'll talk to you guys uh tomorrow morning at 6 a.m.
• 3:07:07
  SPEAKER_15: Have a great one.
• 3:07:07
  SPEAKER_15: And now here is uh Ilhan, Queen of the Scandal.
• 3:07:10
  SPEAKER_15: New to you if you haven't heard it here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment.
• 3:07:18
  SPEAKER_36: Have you seen her since the agents came at dawn?
• 3:07:21
  SPEAKER_36: Knock on the door before the sun was even on, boxes carried out while the cameras rolled, passport and cell phones, these stories still untold.
• 3:07:32
  SPEAKER_36: Husbands still around, the dog's still on the floor.
• 3:07:35
  SPEAKER_36: But the questions keep coming from the ones who keep the score.
• 3:07:39
  SPEAKER_36: They came with the war and left with the boxes rifle through the drawers, the desk, the laps, to find the top of the table, the family, the table, and still.