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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, September 26 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: I'm celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football man. He
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Speaker 1: looked he had his shack. Football is out. You're gonna
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Speaker 1: beat it is Thursday, September twenty six. This is Jackuars
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour and now a guy who will host your
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Speaker 1: event for food. Jay Peace, Shadrack Me welcome in Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Our, JP, Shadrick, Jeff Logum and Leon Searcy for
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Speaker 1: the next hour. What's up, guys? What's up? I got
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Speaker 1: a feeling that there's something to that. Are you okay?
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Speaker 1: We don't need to delve to why not? Why not?
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Speaker 1: Let's go let's go down that road. J It's quite okay.
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Speaker 1: He's not wrong. He's not wrong when I'm referring to
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Speaker 1: is hosting of events for food. It's okay, all right,
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Speaker 1: you don't want to go no, we we just went there.
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Speaker 1: But that's okay. Let's move away from there. Here's just
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Speaker 1: coming up though. I do it for food too. Food
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Speaker 1: got to be good on the program today, of course,
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Speaker 1: the Ramsey response after everything that has happened this week,
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Speaker 1: Jaila Ramsey away from the football team, mintsh you mania continues.
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Speaker 1: We'll break it all down. Jaguars Broncos previewill peak around
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Speaker 1: the National Football League as well, and of course, in
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Speaker 1: an hour from now five o'clock, the Doug Marone Show
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Speaker 1: will hear from the head coach live in studio. Let's
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Speaker 1: start with the Deala Ramsey situation this week and what
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Speaker 1: a week it has been called out sick on Monday,
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Speaker 1: players are off Tuesday. Anyway, a sore back was on
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Speaker 1: the report Wednesday, did not practice and then off to
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Speaker 1: Nashville Wednesday night, and an announcement from head coach Doug
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Speaker 1: Moron for the birth of his second child and no
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Speaker 1: real timetable one when he will be back with this
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Speaker 1: football team. What a week it's been around Dealer Ramsey
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Speaker 1: guys one likeness. No never, especially in my era. I've
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Speaker 1: never seen anything. I'm just saying, listen, I was talking
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Speaker 1: about this earlier to day. I mean in I just
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Speaker 1: signed with the Jaguars. My my wife was pregnant with
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Speaker 1: my second daughter, Kenya, just born September nine, right in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the season. Okay, I went there and
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Speaker 1: make sure she was okay. So the birth of my daughter,
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Speaker 1: make sure my wife was good. And then next day
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Speaker 1: I'm at practice. I'm at practice because if I had
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Speaker 1: taken any more days off than one day, I mean, listened.
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Speaker 1: Lockerman was in that locker room too, he would have said, certainly,
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Speaker 1: what's the deal, broke, We're trying to win the football game.
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Speaker 1: How are you taking two three days off a paternity
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Speaker 1: Did you deliver the baby? I mean, I know, I
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Speaker 1: know the guys in that locker room, trust me, so
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Speaker 1: you listen, listen. I understand that family and kids trump football. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's absolutely family, kids trump football. So I understand it.
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Speaker 1: But if this was, if this was relayed to us
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Speaker 1: on Monday, you know, before the sickness and before the
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Speaker 1: back and all the stuff, that we will be having
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Speaker 1: this conversation. If you if it came out of money,
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Speaker 1: hey listen, I'm not gonna be I probably want to
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Speaker 1: make the game because I'm going to see my my
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Speaker 1: girlfriends and my second child going to Nashville. Then maybe
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Speaker 1: it's understandable. I'm not sure about the whole week and
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Speaker 1: missing the game, but you know, missing a few practices.
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Speaker 1: I would have understood that if this said came out first,
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Speaker 1: but it didn't, so it looks kind of odd. It's
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Speaker 1: just it's just I think it's the compilation of everything
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Speaker 1: together that I think kind of makes the whole situation
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Speaker 1: odd because I mean, you you go back to you
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Speaker 1: have the incident in Houston, and then you have the
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Speaker 1: the request for a trade and uh, and then you
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Speaker 1: have a bizarre press conference and then you have a
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Speaker 1: postgame interview to where there's not really you don't learn
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Speaker 1: anything from it, you don't understand anything from it. And
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Speaker 1: then the next thing you know, he's got the flu.
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Speaker 1: And then once he gets back from the flu, and
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Speaker 1: there are reports that he was in l A around
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Speaker 1: that same time, and then also you come back and
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Speaker 1: he doesn't practice, and then he doesn't pry just and
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Speaker 1: an all of a sudden statements released by the team
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Speaker 1: and that he's off to be there for the birth
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Speaker 1: of his second child, which look, I'm all four of
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Speaker 1: that kind of thing, but but all together, it just
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Speaker 1: it just makes it look odd. And I think the
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Speaker 1: one thing I think that's very apparent because when you
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Speaker 1: when you talk to all the different fans that are
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, and Leon knows this very well, he kind
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Speaker 1: of got called out a little bit on it today
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Speaker 1: and that you have some fans that think Jalen is
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Speaker 1: in the right, And you have some that wants to
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Speaker 1: uh that thinks the teams in the right, that managements
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Speaker 1: in the right, that that Doug Maron is okay. But
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Speaker 1: then there's people you know, that want to some group
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Speaker 1: blames Jalen, some blame Doug Maron, some blame Tom Coughlin,
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Speaker 1: some blame Dave Caldwell. So you have this huge diversity
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Speaker 1: of opinion or should I say divisiveness of opinion in
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Speaker 1: the community. Well, guess what the locker room is. But
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Speaker 1: it's about the same thing. It's it's the same way,
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Speaker 1: it's the same way. It's no different than what the
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Speaker 1: fan base's opinions are. And I guarantee you that the
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Speaker 1: locker room right now is number one, tired of answering
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Speaker 1: questions about Jalen Ramsey, tired of dealing with the issues
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Speaker 1: of Jalen Ramsey. And I'm sure that they want some
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Speaker 1: resolution one way or the other more so than anybody
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Speaker 1: else because it's their football team and it's it's becoming
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Speaker 1: a distraction. And in here here here's how I would
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Speaker 1: be if I was Jailing's teammate. One, I'm tired of it.
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Speaker 1: Number two, I'm tired of answering questions about it. And
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Speaker 1: number three, are you with us or are you not
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Speaker 1: with us? Because we've got we've got a football season
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Speaker 1: to play. It's not like it's a lost season yet either.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a season where there's some hope
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Speaker 1: and you know, they have a little momentum right now.
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Speaker 1: It feels like you know, an offense. To me, that's
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Speaker 1: the last one is the biggest thing. Hmm. If you
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Speaker 1: don't want to be with us, fine, when go go,
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Speaker 1: let me go. We'll be fine without you. But I
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Speaker 1: mean that would hurt me if I'm a member of
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Speaker 1: this team and that I've got we got a guy
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Speaker 1: on our team don't want to be with dude, I't
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Speaker 1: want to be here. He doesn't want to be here
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Speaker 1: with his brothers. And you know, and look, the head
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Speaker 1: coach can talk about how much jail and loves football
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Speaker 1: all he wants that he has, Yes, but you gotta
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Speaker 1: love your teammates and want to be with your teammates. Yeah, listen,
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Speaker 1: And winning football games is it's hard enough to do
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Speaker 1: in the NFL the weekend and week out, you know,
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Speaker 1: because you get you do with a lot of factors,
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Speaker 1: doing injuries, you deal with game planning, you deal with players, this, this,
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Speaker 1: and that. So to have someone there was supposed to
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Speaker 1: be your teammates, supposed to be your brother in arms,
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Speaker 1: be supposed to be there with you creating problem in
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Speaker 1: thessension within the locker room. And I don't know, listen,
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Speaker 1: we don'tly speculating. I'm sure or these guys there who
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Speaker 1: like on jailing side of these guys there are tied
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Speaker 1: to jailer. But that's the device of this thing and
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Speaker 1: at its best. And listen, I was on the team
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Speaker 1: in ninety six. You remember this, Jeffly ninety six. That
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Speaker 1: the whole thing where uh Andre Risen, the whole issue
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Speaker 1: with Andre Rising, there was a clear division in that
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Speaker 1: locker room between Andre Risen whether we should keep them
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Speaker 1: or let them go, and the locker room was separated,
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Speaker 1: and the best thing for the team at that particular
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Speaker 1: time was to get rid of Rising because there was
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Speaker 1: a dissension and we were trying to go go into
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Speaker 1: the season and win football games. So anytime you got
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Speaker 1: a guy who is clearly the decisive in the creating
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Speaker 1: division in the locking room, the management has to make
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Speaker 1: up in the mind and say, hey, listen, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: keep dealing with these issues, or we're gonna part ways
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Speaker 1: from us, try to start winning some football games and
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Speaker 1: then don't. I don't want anybody to misconstrue what what
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Speaker 1: being leon our opinion about jailing. As far as look,
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Speaker 1: if you're sick, you're sick. I'm not gonna argue that.
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Speaker 1: If it's legitimate and you're sick, you're sick. Uh, injuries
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Speaker 1: happened on the National Football League. And if you can't practice,
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Speaker 1: you get a DELF. That's nothing that's uncommon in the
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Speaker 1: National Football League. And then if if you are going
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Speaker 1: out of town to be there for the birth of
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Speaker 1: your second shop, I'm all for that, and Leon's all
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Speaker 1: for that. I mean, that's Look, there's nothing more important
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Speaker 1: than family. I mean, because you know what, when when
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Speaker 1: it's thirty years down the road and you're sitting there
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Speaker 1: looking back, going, boy, I really should have been there
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Speaker 1: at practice instead of there for the birth of my child,
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Speaker 1: and you're not gonna say that it's more important to
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Speaker 1: be there, you know, for your your wife, girlfriend, birth
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Speaker 1: of your child and those type of things. I mean,
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Speaker 1: so I'm all for that, but it feels it feels
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Speaker 1: odd and it's kind of the going to Nashville things
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Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of open ended, right is is
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Speaker 1: he is he going there for a day or two
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Speaker 1: and then he's gonna come back and be able to
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Speaker 1: be their first teammates? Is he gonna be there and
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Speaker 1: then maybe played by Ear? I mean, Howard works out,
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Speaker 1: It works out, But it's just everything I think together
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Speaker 1: and it's entire I think makes the whole situation odd.
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Speaker 1: And then you go back to the to the root
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Speaker 1: issue here or the root issues. The root issue for
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Speaker 1: the team I think should be that you have a
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Speaker 1: player that put his hands on the coach and that
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Speaker 1: still hasn't been has been addressed, hasn't been addressed. And
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Speaker 1: then the root issue apparently from jail and side of things,
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Speaker 1: that his displeasure with management, Well, we don't get to
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Speaker 1: hear from management. Has jail and had a conversation with management.
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Speaker 1: Has there been a gathering of those people to maybe
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Speaker 1: see if things can can work out. I mean, there's
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Speaker 1: just so much that is still kind of unanswered, so
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Speaker 1: to speak, or that the the loose ends haven't been
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Speaker 1: tied up so to speak, that you're just kind of
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Speaker 1: going what is going on? And uh, and it just
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Speaker 1: kind of leaves you hanging well, now it leaves the
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator hanging as well. Todd Wash has to figure
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Speaker 1: out a couple of different ways to go about this game.
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Speaker 1: Will he have Jalen will he not have Jalen on
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Speaker 1: Sunday is a big question for him. He does know
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Speaker 1: he's confident in the guy who would take Jalen's place.
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Speaker 1: That's Trey Herndon. I even asked the dB coaches yesterday,
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Speaker 1: I said, does he ever talk? Um? You know? But
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Speaker 1: what he does is he does He comes in, works, um,
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Speaker 1: he prepares, and anything that he is given by the
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Speaker 1: position coaches or whatever it may be, he's going out
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Speaker 1: there and he's going to do it the best of
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Speaker 1: his ability. Um. You know, you've got to give a
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Speaker 1: lot of credit to the kid, obviously coming in as
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Speaker 1: a college free agent. How he's improved so much, you know,
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Speaker 1: and not only can he play outside, he's our backup nickel, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, and we feel very very comfortable with him
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Speaker 1: playing either spot, either outside or inside. So it's a
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Speaker 1: lot of credit to to him, and you know where
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Speaker 1: he's made himself now. So of course, the the statement
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Speaker 1: from Dug Bron last night said He'll return to the
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Speaker 1: team when he's ready. That's Jalen Ramsey and will provide
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Speaker 1: an update at that time. So what does that mean.
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Speaker 1: That might mean that Trey Herndon gets to play on
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Speaker 1: Sunday in Denver. How did Trey Herndon play the last time?
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Speaker 1: About two weeks ago? I thought two weeks ago that
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Speaker 1: that he played well enough and that was going back
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Speaker 1: to the Houston game correct when he filled it for
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Speaker 1: I thought that he played well enough that because of
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Speaker 1: the way that boy played in the first game, that
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Speaker 1: you would go, well, you know what, Trey hern is
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Speaker 1: maybe making a case that he should get maybe some
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Speaker 1: playing time. And uh so I thought he played well
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Speaker 1: and he had a pretty tough task because he's had
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Speaker 1: to cover Stills and also Will four the fifth and
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Speaker 1: in that ball game, which those two guys have some
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Speaker 1: pretty good speed. I think he did a pretty good
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Speaker 1: job overall. And so do I feel good about him
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Speaker 1: playing this week? Yes, I feel good about him. I
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Speaker 1: don't think the Broncos have a receiver that scares you,
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Speaker 1: and Joe Flacco is not playing that well. So is
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Speaker 1: this a game that you could that you could live without?
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Speaker 1: Jalen Randy Sure, but is it? Is it uh step
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Speaker 1: down in talent level from Trey Herndon gentlemen Ramsey. I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 1: everybody knows that. I mean it's gentlemen, Ramsey's one of
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Speaker 1: the one of the best in the league and that
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Speaker 1: that's no argument there. But this view one leon where
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Speaker 1: you know, if let's just hypothetically say the baby comes
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Speaker 1: on today, we don't we don't know the timetable or tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: and then he gets on a private jet Saturday from
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Speaker 1: Nashville and goes to Denver and joins the team and
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Speaker 1: plays on Sunday. Could that even be possible? It could be.
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Speaker 1: I could, like at Dion Sanders type of thing it be.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know that if he has
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Speaker 1: that in his repertoire, but if I mean, that would
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Speaker 1: show he's a team player if he does, If if
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Speaker 1: he sees the birth of his child and he size
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Speaker 1: on Friday, I'm gonna go see the team on Saturday,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I don't see how the jack Walls
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Speaker 1: wouldn't pla him on Sunday. Listen, as much as hern
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Speaker 1: is getting an opportunity to play, you know, Jalen Ramsey
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Speaker 1: gives us the best chance to win. I mean, he's
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Speaker 1: the best d be in the country. You know, he
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Speaker 1: first half, one side of the field is completely shut
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Speaker 1: down when you've got that guy in there. So if
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Speaker 1: you can have them play, you have them play. But
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Speaker 1: you know, this hern is getting tremendous opportunity to play,
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Speaker 1: So let's see if he makes the most of But
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Speaker 1: I would be surprised. I would be shot. I would too.
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Speaker 1: Who who knows? You still know at this point, I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is taking so many twists and turns already. Wouldn't
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Speaker 1: that be another one? Another one of those moments to
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Speaker 1: where you just kind of go, hmm, what was that
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Speaker 1: so proper called these are the Days of our Lives?
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Speaker 1: This is it? This is what we used to watch that? Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: Days of our Lives? Okay, yeah, that was that was
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Speaker 1: back you know collegely on when you had that little
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Speaker 1: bit of free time between classes and you know classes.
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Speaker 1: You know, we used to go to a u v A. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I went to class really breaking news. We used to
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Speaker 1: have a couple of guys and we used to watch that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was like the only thing that was
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Speaker 1: on television. Three channels, exactly three channels, exactly. Let's go back.
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Speaker 1: We've delved into the Ramsey saga on one hand, Let's
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Speaker 1: go to the exact opposite. When we come back Gardner
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18:15
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18:20
Speaker 1: a big story nationally after what he's done in two
18:23
Speaker 1: games and three quarters worth of football here, how long
18:28
Speaker 1: does this thing last for Gardner? Uh, He's gonna look
18:31
Speaker 1: like a rookie at some point, right, Honestly, I keep
18:34
Speaker 1: waiting for him to look like a rookie, and I
18:38
Speaker 1: keep waiting for it. And um, I made the prediction
18:42
Speaker 1: when Jaguars are going to Houston and our little expert column,
18:47
Speaker 1: you know that John Oshan puts together with everybody's thoughts
18:49
Speaker 1: on the game, and I said, you know, this might
18:51
Speaker 1: be tough for a rookie quarterback going in to a
18:53
Speaker 1: hostile environment with a veteran defensive coordinator like Romeo Cornell.
18:58
Speaker 1: And and he's probably gonna look like a rookie because
19:00
Speaker 1: the metrics showed that they usually don't have success on
19:04
Speaker 1: the road and their first start ever. Well played pretty
19:07
Speaker 1: well when he had to. Yes, a lot of that
19:09
Speaker 1: game the offense sputtered, but it mattered. He got him
19:12
Speaker 1: down the field twice. You know. Then then all of
19:14
Speaker 1: a sudden, prime time on a short week against the
19:17
Speaker 1: division rival, and he comes out and and I don't
19:21
Speaker 1: want to say that he was lights out and Patrick Mahomes,
19:24
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he was that, but he was good,
19:26
Speaker 1: and he was doing some things and identification and and
19:30
Speaker 1: the way he reads plays that it you don't see
19:33
Speaker 1: that by rookies. Now. For example, and Leon, you might
19:37
Speaker 1: remember this play, the touchdown to chart. He literally he
19:43
Speaker 1: gets the snap and as soon as he gets the snap,
19:46
Speaker 1: he looks to his right. And why is he looking
19:49
Speaker 1: to his right, because you gotta you gotta center field
19:51
Speaker 1: safety and he's trying to hold, so he's he knows
19:54
Speaker 1: where he's going with a football, gets the snap, looks right,
19:58
Speaker 1: freezes the safety or he's trying the quote unquote move.
20:01
Speaker 1: The safety with his eyes comes back and throws a
20:04
Speaker 1: touchdown the chart and the safety has no chance if
20:06
Speaker 1: he can getting over there. And I'm gonna show that
20:08
Speaker 1: tonight on Jaguars All Access because I mean, you don't
20:12
Speaker 1: see a rookie doing now, No, no, no. The best
20:16
Speaker 1: thing about Garden to issue to me is that he's
20:18
Speaker 1: a six down, a sixth round rookie in the big
20:21
Speaker 1: boy league at the NFL, and he's not supposed to
20:24
Speaker 1: be doing this, and he's doing it. So don't don't
20:27
Speaker 1: tell him that he's not supposed to be doing this.
20:29
Speaker 1: He's not supposed to be having over seventy completion he's
20:31
Speaker 1: not supposed to have five and five touchdowns and one
20:33
Speaker 1: and this one interception. One interception wasn't even he wasn't
20:36
Speaker 1: even his fault. And he should have six touchdowns because
20:39
Speaker 1: you know a touchdown was dropping the ends on seven,
20:41
Speaker 1: seven and seven. Yes, you're right, seven, he should have
20:44
Speaker 1: had seven. He doesn't get locked, yeah, oh boy, he
20:49
Speaker 1: doesn't get the block, and he can't find markets. We're
20:51
Speaker 1: gonna look at that one or so. I think. I
20:53
Speaker 1: think that's the best thing going for this kid, because
20:54
Speaker 1: initially when he came into the k C game, I
20:56
Speaker 1: thought the kid was playing with house money. Nobody really
20:58
Speaker 1: expect him to go in there and doing the thing. Whatever.
21:00
Speaker 1: He gets his first start against the Texans start slow,
21:03
Speaker 1: gets into the fourth quarter, gives us an opportunity drives
21:06
Speaker 1: down not only with its on with his legs. We're
21:09
Speaker 1: scrambling to get that first down, and what it gives
21:10
Speaker 1: us an opportunity to win. Then on prime time, prime
21:13
Speaker 1: time against the Titans, the team that we hadn't be
21:15
Speaker 1: what five tries, six tries or whatever. He goes in
21:18
Speaker 1: there wasn't lights out, but Listen goes to his progressions,
21:22
Speaker 1: makes that that past the DD Westbrook. Everybody talked about
21:25
Speaker 1: him when he came out of the combine that he
21:27
Speaker 1: didn't have that NFL on, but he made that throw.
21:30
Speaker 1: He made that throw over two defenders. Then that that
21:32
Speaker 1: touched down the chark and the end zone. So the kid,
21:35
Speaker 1: the kid is playing. You know, I like to refer
21:37
Speaker 1: this to poker because I enjoyed poker. You know, I
21:39
Speaker 1: got two jacks in my hand right now, and the
21:41
Speaker 1: flop there's a jack. I'm gonna play my chips. I'm
21:44
Speaker 1: not all in on Mansue right now, but each week,
21:48
Speaker 1: each week, I'm gonna start keep bedding. I'm just gonna
21:51
Speaker 1: keep mint you until I'm all in. Right now, Listen,
21:56
Speaker 1: I'm putting my chips in from his issue every week
21:58
Speaker 1: into until he proves me. It's he's different, though, I
22:03
Speaker 1: mean it's you know, Doug Brown keeps using the word
22:05
Speaker 1: he's different. He's different, he's different. Well, he's different because
22:07
Speaker 1: he's a six round pick and he's having success in
22:10
Speaker 1: the National Football League. When's the last time the six
22:15
Speaker 1: round pick rookie quarterback or any late round pick quarterback
22:19
Speaker 1: has ever had success right out of the Gateland National
22:21
Speaker 1: Football League. I don't who his first year wasn't his
22:29
Speaker 1: first year starting, I'm not sure. I don't think. I
22:32
Speaker 1: don't think it was rookie. That's the only comparison I
22:36
Speaker 1: can think of. But Tom didn't. He did do this
22:38
Speaker 1: a rookie. You and I don't. I want to make
22:40
Speaker 1: sure that we don't give ourselves a speeding ticket here.
22:44
Speaker 1: I mean, the offense is averaging about nineteen points a game,
22:48
Speaker 1: and they but but here's here's the other thing. What
22:51
Speaker 1: kind of a running game has minshew? A rookie quarterback
22:56
Speaker 1: had to support? Not much of a running game now,
23:00
Speaker 1: I mean, prior to the sixty nine yard run, if
23:04
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, he was fourteen carries for minus yardage
23:09
Speaker 1: in four net. So if you get a better running
23:15
Speaker 1: game or a more successful running game. What can that
23:19
Speaker 1: do for the performance of your quarterback in the passing him?
23:21
Speaker 1: It would naturally make it easier or better. And so
23:25
Speaker 1: he's been able to do some of these things, seventy
23:28
Speaker 1: plus completion percentage, protecting the football um, protecting himself, not
23:34
Speaker 1: taking sacks, not getting delay of games, not using timeouts unnecessarily,
23:38
Speaker 1: which is probably those things are probably more impressive than
23:42
Speaker 1: anything else, just the management of the offense, because you're
23:46
Speaker 1: talking about a rookie, and and I want to make
23:48
Speaker 1: sure I say this because it's not all about Minsheu either. Yeah.
23:52
Speaker 1: First of all, he's got to have a great supporting cast.
23:56
Speaker 1: I think Lender's helping him out. I think the receivers
23:58
Speaker 1: certainly are helping him out of d J. Chart has
24:01
Speaker 1: been amazing. In fact, he should be a big as
24:04
Speaker 1: big a story as Minshew should be. But the coaching
24:06
Speaker 1: staff John D. Filipp Of the job that he has
24:09
Speaker 1: been able to do with Gardner Minshew, I think is impressive.
24:12
Speaker 1: Scott Milanovitch, the quarterbacks coach, Uh, those guys cannot be
24:16
Speaker 1: their their performance or effort cannot be underestimated in the
24:19
Speaker 1: success of Gardner Minshew, how did you start the run
24:23
Speaker 1: game on the offensive line. What we asked you guys
24:26
Speaker 1: about this this week, but just from the outside looking
24:28
Speaker 1: at well, I mean, listen, the run game is not
24:31
Speaker 1: established on Sunday. The run game has established the week
24:34
Speaker 1: before the game. There's a mindset. I mean, you've got
24:36
Speaker 1: to go into a game on Sunday with the mindset
24:39
Speaker 1: that you want to run the football whatever you need
24:41
Speaker 1: to do as offense, as an offensive line. I know
24:43
Speaker 1: when we was here, when mea but Sully was here,
24:45
Speaker 1: I mean, as as phanomben of a passing team. We
24:48
Speaker 1: were with Mark Bronelle and Jimmy Smith and Keena ma
24:51
Speaker 1: Car there we were literally come off to the sideline
24:54
Speaker 1: and say run the ball, you know, because enough of
24:58
Speaker 1: this passing. How did you say, well, I left if
25:02
Speaker 1: you can say, I don't know sure if you say damn.
25:04
Speaker 1: But when you say run the dawn ball, Okay, So
25:06
Speaker 1: you come to the sideline and say run the down ball.
25:08
Speaker 1: And then we had phenomenal athletes. We have phenomenal players
25:11
Speaker 1: on our team. But it's a mindset, listen. We used
25:14
Speaker 1: to we used to gather together as a group with
25:17
Speaker 1: the offensive line and the running backs and we will
25:19
Speaker 1: watch the film together, we will watch the film and
25:21
Speaker 1: we would say that says, okay, okay, here's a hole here,
25:23
Speaker 1: here's a whole here. You know, because the meeting potatoes
25:26
Speaker 1: of your run game is your two guards in your center,
25:28
Speaker 1: your ability to the double team, the one to get
25:31
Speaker 1: to the mic, and your ability to the single block,
25:33
Speaker 1: the three technique and running in between the tackles. So
25:35
Speaker 1: that that has got to be established by this team.
25:38
Speaker 1: If you're going to run the ball entirely, you've got
25:40
Speaker 1: to establish that. But that doesn't happen overnight. It happens Wednesday, Thursday.
25:46
Speaker 1: Fried in whatever drills you're doing, as whatever drills you're
25:50
Speaker 1: doing his offensive line, as far as get offs, stand low,
25:53
Speaker 1: being physical with your hands, bending your knees, rolling your hips,
25:56
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, you've got to incorporate that
25:58
Speaker 1: kind of stuff in your offense of coordinating the offensive line,
26:01
Speaker 1: course say look, we got to get this game going
26:03
Speaker 1: because we've got to help this kid. Because the offensive
26:06
Speaker 1: line gets a running game going, this kid is gonna
26:08
Speaker 1: be even more phenomenal. Man Doug Rounch talked U a
26:12
Speaker 1: couple of different times and mentioned the offensive line needing
26:15
Speaker 1: to get better. I'm a big believer that it's not
26:18
Speaker 1: just about the offensive line. I'm a big believer in
26:21
Speaker 1: that Leonard Fournett has got to be better too, and
26:23
Speaker 1: there's some holes that he missed that he could have
26:26
Speaker 1: created some things for the offense if he's got better vision.
26:30
Speaker 1: A lot of times people say, well, why why is
26:33
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette doing the short steps, which indicates he and
26:39
Speaker 1: there's a term for that, and I'm not going to
26:41
Speaker 1: use the term for it, but it's it's stepping gingerly.
26:44
Speaker 1: I'll just say that. And and for me, that means
26:48
Speaker 1: that he he's indecisive and where he wants to run
26:51
Speaker 1: the ball when he's pitter pattery, and that's another way
26:54
Speaker 1: to describe it. And if his vision gets better or
26:57
Speaker 1: is better, then he can be more to iceive and
27:00
Speaker 1: then you're not seeing the pitter patter of the feet.
27:03
Speaker 1: So the running game is always a shared deal. It's
27:07
Speaker 1: from the offensive line to the running backs and tight ends.
27:11
Speaker 1: You gotta include them in there. And and there's no
27:13
Speaker 1: fullbacks in that mix because they're part of the tight
27:15
Speaker 1: ends too. But everybody's got to be better. And if
27:18
Speaker 1: anybody wants to sit there and point the finger at
27:20
Speaker 1: one area of concern that why it's not working. Then
27:25
Speaker 1: they're mistaken because that's not how it works. Well started
27:28
Speaker 1: with the old line. Yeah, but but also also, and
27:32
Speaker 1: you're saying that about learning the Pito pad and whatever,
27:34
Speaker 1: if he's not used to seeing holes, he doesn't know
27:37
Speaker 1: where they're going to be there, you know what I'm saying.
27:39
Speaker 1: So so if if you if you're not consistently giving
27:42
Speaker 1: him holes or what they call it, dayly running the daylight,
27:45
Speaker 1: then he's going to be Pito paddle waiting for it
27:47
Speaker 1: to happen. So if the offensive line, I'm gonna always
27:50
Speaker 1: be build on the offense line at the offensive line
27:52
Speaker 1: with a little bit more consistent in creating holes so
27:55
Speaker 1: let it can see him because you know, at times
27:57
Speaker 1: it's I think it's vision just questionable at times, just
28:00
Speaker 1: being honest, doubt about Philip Lindsay. And watch Philip Lindsay
28:05
Speaker 1: and he's a pound five ft but eight back something
28:10
Speaker 1: like that, and all sudden he's like he's got great vision.
28:14
Speaker 1: And that's something that that Leonard doesn't have. And and
28:18
Speaker 1: that's why you remember we had was a two years
28:21
Speaker 1: ago we were talking about this debate, what what kind
28:23
Speaker 1: of scheme. Does Leonard Bournette need to run in a
28:25
Speaker 1: gap scheme or a zone scheme? Well, and the consensus
28:29
Speaker 1: was he needs to run a gap scheme, you know,
28:31
Speaker 1: had the full back in front and then have a
28:33
Speaker 1: defined hole because when you have a defined hole, that's
28:36
Speaker 1: the momentum and he's gonna hit it. Well, the zone
28:39
Speaker 1: scheme is that's where you gotta have vision as a back.
28:42
Speaker 1: I mean, Terrell Davis, the Thurman Thomas is some of
28:45
Speaker 1: the great backs in the National Football League. Philip Lindsay
28:48
Speaker 1: has great vision to run a zone type of scheme.
28:50
Speaker 1: And that's not That's not Leonard's forte is the zone scheme.
28:54
Speaker 1: And the reason I don't think that that's his forte
28:56
Speaker 1: is I don't think he has that great vision that
28:59
Speaker 1: a back needs to have to run that type of scheme.
29:01
Speaker 1: And and I hope that, you know, the offensive line
29:04
Speaker 1: can do a better job to make it easier for
29:06
Speaker 1: him to be decisive. And uh and the other thing
29:10
Speaker 1: I will say this, why not give a couple of
29:13
Speaker 1: totes to rock? So that's yeah. Leonard played has played
29:17
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixties seven snaps out of one hundred
29:20
Speaker 1: seventy seven on offense this season. He's only missed ten
29:24
Speaker 1: snaps all season. On snaps, well, I give him credit
29:27
Speaker 1: like he's been. He's been really good and past protection,
29:30
Speaker 1: which is what they wanted him to be. I mean,
29:31
Speaker 1: in fact, this past game, I mean he was flat
29:34
Speaker 1: out mean in past protection, which is a great for him,
29:37
Speaker 1: which he did get really positive and uh, and he's
29:40
Speaker 1: been very good out of the backfield. He's got I
29:42
Speaker 1: think a couple of drops, but uh, but I mean overall,
29:45
Speaker 1: I think he's been very effective. He's been uh in
29:48
Speaker 1: tune with everything they need to do, you know. But
29:51
Speaker 1: I mean, you got a draft pick in Armstead, and
29:53
Speaker 1: and especially like that after the long run, you got
29:56
Speaker 1: a sixty nine yard run. Okay, now put in arms
30:00
Speaker 1: dead and let Leonard have an opportunity to catch his
30:02
Speaker 1: breath because the plays that he had after that long
30:05
Speaker 1: run we're not that great. I think he scores him
30:07
Speaker 1: a long run if he's not worn out either, well
30:09
Speaker 1: maybe I don't don't remember anybody ever catching him. Maybe not.
30:12
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's incredibly fast. I mean, I mean,
30:14
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. And so I mean, you
30:17
Speaker 1: don't give give Armstead an opportunity and unless see where
30:21
Speaker 1: it goes. And I'm not saying take away of the
30:25
Speaker 1: carries for four net. I'm saying, like, you know, seventy
30:28
Speaker 1: five five or eighty twenty, I mean, why not? Yeah,
30:33
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30:35
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30:38
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30:40
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30:42
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Speaker 1: me say this about how rare it is for a
36:43
Speaker 1: team to go three games into the season without a sack,
36:46
Speaker 1: without a takeaway. It's never happened before. Ever, never happened,
36:54
Speaker 1: which I think is sacks started becoming a stato, So
36:58
Speaker 1: incredibly rare and uh. They are two phenomenal players on
37:03
Speaker 1: the edge, both Chub and Miller, and I think a
37:06
Speaker 1: big part of their lack of pressure their offense has
37:10
Speaker 1: only scored like fifteen points a game. Joe Flacco has
37:13
Speaker 1: not been very good. Yeah, so uh to rush the
37:17
Speaker 1: pass or you gotta have a little bit of a lead.
37:21
Speaker 1: For example, look at the Jaguars this past game. You
37:23
Speaker 1: get two scores, bang, bang, and you're up fourteen and nothing.
37:27
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, the opponent feels a
37:29
Speaker 1: little bit of a need to throw the football. And
37:32
Speaker 1: you have a defense that has had zero sacks from
37:36
Speaker 1: their defensive line prior to that game on Thursday night,
37:39
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they break out for eight
37:40
Speaker 1: and a half on the defensive line in one game
37:43
Speaker 1: because it got a fourteen point lead early in that
37:45
Speaker 1: ball game. And the Broncos have not had that for
37:48
Speaker 1: their team yet. And you know it's gonna come at
37:52
Speaker 1: some point. Obviously, you don't want it to happen this week.
37:55
Speaker 1: But Leon, if you are, let's say you're right tackle
37:59
Speaker 1: and here's Von Miller, three time All Pro, multiple Pro
38:03
Speaker 1: bowler on the other side, who hasn't had a sack yet.
38:07
Speaker 1: What do you prepare for? If you're wanting, what do
38:09
Speaker 1: I do? What I ask for? Run the ball, Run
38:12
Speaker 1: the ball first, exactly. Listen, you've got to be able
38:16
Speaker 1: to run the ball against von Miller, because if you
38:18
Speaker 1: become a one dimension of the von Miller has probably
38:20
Speaker 1: one of the quickest first steps off the ball that
38:23
Speaker 1: I've seen about a defense. But I mean, he reminds
38:25
Speaker 1: me a lot of a guy I will played up
38:26
Speaker 1: against unfortunately Arrowhead and Derrick Thomas. Derrick Thomas was as
38:32
Speaker 1: quick as quick as a cat, especially coming off the ball,
38:34
Speaker 1: especially around there. It reminds me a lot of that.
38:36
Speaker 1: It doesn't give you a lot to hit too as well.
38:38
Speaker 1: It never gives you a full body. He's always giving
38:40
Speaker 1: you a half a body. He's already moving this body,
38:42
Speaker 1: maneuvering this body. So it's gonna be a tough task
38:44
Speaker 1: with Joe on telling because not only you have to
38:45
Speaker 1: deal with von Miller, I deal with the crowd, noise
38:48
Speaker 1: and mass majority of the time of the game. If
38:50
Speaker 1: the jack was which I'm hoping it doesn't happen, if
38:52
Speaker 1: the jag Walls get fall behind early. Now you put yourself,
38:55
Speaker 1: you put your rookie in a predicament where he's gonna
38:57
Speaker 1: have to pass for debt against this guy. Because the
39:00
Speaker 1: Jaguars are feeling a little bit of desperation trying to
39:02
Speaker 1: get back in the game and having to throw the ball.
39:04
Speaker 1: So the best, the best thing that can happen for
39:06
Speaker 1: this jag Wars offense in this game is to run
39:09
Speaker 1: the ball, to be to be to be able to
39:12
Speaker 1: run the ball and pass the ball, because that takes
39:14
Speaker 1: the pressure off the tackles. Now, I'm not sure who's
39:16
Speaker 1: gonna be playing the left and right. I know Jowan
39:18
Speaker 1: is gonna be at right. I'm not sure it sounds
39:19
Speaker 1: like you're gonna have his hands for too. Bradley Chub.
39:24
Speaker 1: I mean, he gets after it as well. So the
39:26
Speaker 1: best thing that you can do for these you know,
39:28
Speaker 1: young tackles, left and right tackles, for the jack walls
39:32
Speaker 1: is to have some ballots giving them an opportunity to
39:35
Speaker 1: run the ball, giving the opportunity to where they're nine
39:38
Speaker 1: third and long situations where they have to protect the
39:40
Speaker 1: quarterback a lot longer. So I would say the best
39:43
Speaker 1: thing is to run the ball to give your tackles
39:46
Speaker 1: a chance against these phenoms that rushed the pass. Now
39:49
Speaker 1: in Leon's right, I mean that if you can have
39:52
Speaker 1: manageable third downs, and you can get the manageable third
39:56
Speaker 1: downs by controlled passing attack and then also running the
39:59
Speaker 1: football successfully. Now, if you're looking at third and three
40:02
Speaker 1: or third and four, then all of a sudden, the
40:04
Speaker 1: ears aren't his pin back, so to speak, for a
40:07
Speaker 1: pass rusher, because the reality is von Miller. Look at
40:10
Speaker 1: his numbers. He's got ninety eight career sacks and now
40:13
Speaker 1: he's in his ninth year, so he basically got ninety
40:16
Speaker 1: eight regular season career sacks in eight years. That's averaging
40:20
Speaker 1: twelve sacks a year. Twelve sacks a year. That's phenomenal.
40:25
Speaker 1: That there's two guys in the league that has the
40:28
Speaker 1: sacks per game numbers that are just ridiculous, and that's J. J.
40:33
Speaker 1: Watt and Von Miller. And I think von miller is
40:36
Speaker 1: is might be higher, but uh, it is crazy to think.
40:40
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you got a second
40:42
Speaker 1: year player Bradley Chubb. On the other side, You've got
40:46
Speaker 1: bon Miller average in twelve a year, and then Bradley
40:48
Speaker 1: Chubb and his rookie year came out and had twelve.
40:52
Speaker 1: You know, so these guys are phenomenal football players. Bradley
40:55
Speaker 1: Chubb was a consensus uh first round pick. Many people
41:00
Speaker 1: wanted him. He's fifth overall, kind of fell in the
41:02
Speaker 1: lap of the Denver Broncos, and they did the right
41:05
Speaker 1: thing and took them. I mean, you're talking about two
41:08
Speaker 1: of the best edge defenders in football. I don't care
41:11
Speaker 1: if they don't have a sack. I don't care that
41:14
Speaker 1: they don't have a takeaway yet, because I do know this.
41:17
Speaker 1: These two guys have the ability to dominate. That's how
41:21
Speaker 1: good they are. And if you if you play so
41:25
Speaker 1: if you play their style of game, which means you
41:28
Speaker 1: get behind behind the chains or if you get behind
41:31
Speaker 1: on the scoreboard, it'll make for one incredibly long day
41:35
Speaker 1: because you gotta remember something now, they have like four
41:38
Speaker 1: hundred or how many consecutive sellouts, four hundred and four
41:44
Speaker 1: in Denver home sellout, and that place can rock. There
41:48
Speaker 1: ain't no doubt if all of a sudden they've got
41:50
Speaker 1: a to score, lead to possession lead, and it's third
41:54
Speaker 1: and long. Do you think you're gonna be able to
41:57
Speaker 1: hear snap counter, have a snap count? So you're talking
42:00
Speaker 1: about that quick first step that von Miller has. You
42:03
Speaker 1: think it's quick, wait till you gotta go silent count.
42:06
Speaker 1: That is really quick. And then I remember some years
42:09
Speaker 1: ago when they were here, the Broncos came in here
42:12
Speaker 1: for a game and it was late and they needed
42:15
Speaker 1: a sack to to end the game, and it was
42:18
Speaker 1: he was shut down all day. But here comes in
42:21
Speaker 1: a moment when they needed a pass rush. He found
42:25
Speaker 1: a way. He got home sack fumble. Good night, see
42:28
Speaker 1: you next week. So I mean, go go to the
42:29
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Yeah right, I mean super Bowl m v
42:33
Speaker 1: P exactly. He was disruptive, but the Carolina the Panther's
42:38
Speaker 1: office and I did not have an answer for the
42:39
Speaker 1: whole game, whole game kill him. So we got that
42:43
Speaker 1: going for us, which is nice. Yeah. And look, look
42:47
Speaker 1: and kind of part of that who's gonna face von Miller?
42:51
Speaker 1: Von Miller's is for the most part, he's a left
42:54
Speaker 1: side pass rusher. So Joan Taylor is gonna see him
42:57
Speaker 1: against the right tackle. Yeah. So and here here's the reality.
43:01
Speaker 1: John tell Us a good football player. I mean he
43:04
Speaker 1: is he perfect? No, because he still got some things
43:07
Speaker 1: he needs to get better at with his hands, yes,
43:10
Speaker 1: But I think the one thing that has impressed me
43:12
Speaker 1: about him, He's faced some really good players already and
43:16
Speaker 1: he has handled him. And the one thing that he
43:19
Speaker 1: has I think that is a gift. He is incredibly strong.
43:23
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that you go back to
43:27
Speaker 1: like Luke jokel Luke Joko used to have to be
43:29
Speaker 1: able to worry about power, and he had to prepare
43:32
Speaker 1: for power, and he got into that bad habit of
43:34
Speaker 1: duck in his head. John Teller don't need to duck
43:37
Speaker 1: his head. He's one of these guys that just he
43:40
Speaker 1: engulfs people and he handles their power and he just
43:44
Speaker 1: and he just absorbs it. It's not a big deal
43:46
Speaker 1: for him. And what what's scary is when he finally
43:50
Speaker 1: gets it, he's gonna be punishing guys, punishing. I'm telling you,
43:55
Speaker 1: I watched him. He's a puppy bard. Then he's on
43:58
Speaker 1: the chain. He's not the pit bull yet. But when
44:00
Speaker 1: becomes a pit he's gonna stop punishing people, trust me.
44:03
Speaker 1: And he moves people in the run game now when
44:05
Speaker 1: he wants to. When he when he gets it going
44:07
Speaker 1: in the run game, he can move people. He is uh,
44:11
Speaker 1: he is gonna be in my opinion, I think you're
44:15
Speaker 1: talking about you've You've got a guy that's gonna be
44:19
Speaker 1: in a conversation every year for the Pro Bowl at
44:21
Speaker 1: some point, and he is your he is your right
44:24
Speaker 1: tackle for a decade like that. I like it too.
44:28
Speaker 1: That's nice and if you're right, I just want to
44:32
Speaker 1: make sure I was accurate to get my get the
44:34
Speaker 1: back in of a former right tackle that was all
44:36
Speaker 1: fired up lug. I like him. I mean, look, I
44:38
Speaker 1: liked him in the draft. I didn't like him as
44:40
Speaker 1: a as the top pick because he was a right
44:42
Speaker 1: tackle and that's for me, that's a little bit high
44:44
Speaker 1: for that position. But I mean, this guy, Juan Taylor
44:47
Speaker 1: is a is a good football player, good football player.
44:50
Speaker 1: Let's come back. We'll go around the league a little bit.
44:52
Speaker 1: It's one of the things happening. There are other teams
44:54
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. We'll touch on some of
44:57
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Speaker 1: The Rolling Stones did did one? It was good. I
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Speaker 1: Jackson also was so good. Yeah when I when I
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Speaker 1: where the supremes there too, just just the boss. How
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Speaker 1: many are still around? But Diana is still around? Okay,
50:31
Speaker 1: let's get to football now, not the entertainment around football.
50:35
Speaker 1: Chargers running back Melvin Gordon ending is hold out. He
50:38
Speaker 1: won't play this week. He's gotta be on the roster
50:40
Speaker 1: for eight games to get the final year of his
50:42
Speaker 1: contract to become a free agent. But he's back after
50:45
Speaker 1: holding out and got zero dollars. That that's what Melvin
50:50
Speaker 1: Gordon accomplished. Okay, what's an l By holding out? He
50:55
Speaker 1: took a huge ail. Yeah, I mean he made he
50:58
Speaker 1: made a mistake. He held out and he has he
51:02
Speaker 1: had no leverage and all he did was cost himself money.
51:07
Speaker 1: And now what will be interesting will will the team
51:11
Speaker 1: institute the finds that he's accumulated in his absence, because
51:16
Speaker 1: they could end up trying to essentially make make him
51:21
Speaker 1: pay for all the things that he's already missed because
51:23
Speaker 1: he was under contract, and that's one point two million
51:26
Speaker 1: dollars in five Yeah, he's gonna have to pay. And
51:29
Speaker 1: don't you think this. You gotta think this as well.
51:31
Speaker 1: If he if he came back and he was ready
51:34
Speaker 1: to go and he passed the physical, don't you think
51:36
Speaker 1: they will get him ready to play on Sunday? Or
51:38
Speaker 1: is that them sending a match is like, we really
51:40
Speaker 1: don't need you. M M. I don't know. If he's
51:45
Speaker 1: a healthy pass thing, he comes in and he he's
51:48
Speaker 1: ready to play, that would make him Well, they say
51:51
Speaker 1: they got to get him acclimated. Sure, okay, ten days. Well,
51:55
Speaker 1: I mean like like Zeke Zeke took him how long?
51:58
Speaker 1: Like a couple of days? They take a couple of day.
52:00
Speaker 1: Remember who the Chargers are playing this week? The Dolphins?
52:03
Speaker 1: So yeah, does that have anything to do with it?
52:05
Speaker 1: You know? Uh no, I mean I don't think you'd
52:08
Speaker 1: take that in consideration. But I think the fact of
52:12
Speaker 1: the matter is as Melvin gore and accomplished nothing with
52:16
Speaker 1: his whole out, and that was a mistake on his part. Well, yeah,
52:20
Speaker 1: he had to come back because if he had sat
52:21
Speaker 1: out a year, he would have had another year, he
52:23
Speaker 1: would have been under contract again for the same amount
52:25
Speaker 1: that he just bypassed. Saints quarterback Drew Brees set on
52:29
Speaker 1: a radio interview in New Orleans that he hopes to
52:31
Speaker 1: beat the odds and gets back from his thumb injury
52:33
Speaker 1: earlier than the six week prognosis. Originally, the doctor inserted
52:37
Speaker 1: an internal brace, Breeze said, and that allows him to
52:40
Speaker 1: remove the cast in a couple of weeks to begin rehab.
52:43
Speaker 1: If Drew Breese thinks that he should or could come
52:47
Speaker 1: back in less than six weeks, I got some diamond
52:51
Speaker 1: don't want to sell. Oh wow, he's holding one out there, Okay,
52:57
Speaker 1: because it's close to home for Drew. I mean, look,
53:00
Speaker 1: what the reality is is, uh, if you can't you
53:03
Speaker 1: can't change what medically is needed for the body to heal.
53:09
Speaker 1: Um if he does come back earlier than that, here's
53:12
Speaker 1: the one thing he is doing. He is putting his
53:15
Speaker 1: body and his career at risk because he's his body
53:19
Speaker 1: won't be healed if he comes back sooner than six weeks.
53:24
Speaker 1: Some people even say that it should be like a
53:27
Speaker 1: three month healing process. Anyway, Well, he got a lot
53:32
Speaker 1: of advice, like Mike Trout baseball player had this similar
53:35
Speaker 1: injury with a couple of other people who had it. Well,
53:38
Speaker 1: you know baseball, well you know football players. Sometimes we
53:42
Speaker 1: could be out worse ending then we can't be and
53:45
Speaker 1: he probably needs to heal. On this interview, the quarterback
53:49
Speaker 1: and it's his it's his throwing thumb last time I checked.
53:54
Speaker 1: That's a critical part of the playing quarterback position in
53:59
Speaker 1: most fense. So you might want to make sure that
54:01
Speaker 1: that's healed before you try to come back. A Navy
54:04
Speaker 1: you can get away with that. Here's a question that
54:07
Speaker 1: I have if Teddy Bridgewater came out stunk it up,
54:11
Speaker 1: Leon okay, woul Drew Brees be coming back, coming out
54:16
Speaker 1: saying the same thing, you know, he would Drew Brees going, Yeah,
54:22
Speaker 1: that's my job and we're winning without me, And that's
54:25
Speaker 1: not the way I kind of envisioned it anyway, just
54:28
Speaker 1: saying nice job, by the way, nice job Teddy bridge
54:32
Speaker 1: great and the locker room speech. Did you see that
54:34
Speaker 1: after it was fantastic? Yes, I didn't see it. Nearly
54:38
Speaker 1: broke down in tears in front of the team with
54:39
Speaker 1: the game ball and the whole deal. Good for him
54:41
Speaker 1: and I'm happy for him. Because you know what, Teddy
54:43
Speaker 1: Bridgewater has been through a lot. You've been through a lot.
54:46
Speaker 1: And I remember that kid in high school, and I
54:48
Speaker 1: used to get when I was coaching. I used to
54:49
Speaker 1: go to Northwestern and watch the kid. It's phenomenal, phenomenal
54:53
Speaker 1: high school. Barkley, speaking of injuries, suffered a high ankle
54:57
Speaker 1: spring last week, but after a second opinion, he will
54:59
Speaker 1: not have surgery. Expected to miss more than a month. Well,
55:03
Speaker 1: high ankle sprains are typically about eight weeks. Yeah, I mean,
55:09
Speaker 1: so you would rather have a break, I think in
55:11
Speaker 1: some cases than a than a high ankle. So that'll
55:15
Speaker 1: be an interesting watch and pretty interesting because st. Kwon Barkley.
55:21
Speaker 1: The topic of him kind of came up in the
55:23
Speaker 1: preparation for this Broncos game because the next running back
55:28
Speaker 1: who has the most total yardage output behind Barkley is
55:32
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay, who the Jaguars will face. So here you
55:36
Speaker 1: got this. You know, the top pick of the draft
55:38
Speaker 1: and Sat Kwon Barkley, who obviously is a phenomenal player,
55:43
Speaker 1: and then the next closest guy to him is an
55:45
Speaker 1: undrafted guy that did end up signing with the hometown
55:49
Speaker 1: team the Broncos, and it's Philip Lindsay. So anyway, I
55:53
Speaker 1: hope Barkley hills quickly. And the reason why is because
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones would like to have him in New York.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, congratulations to Daniel Jones. Just played
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Speaker 1: pretty well, really well last week? Yeah right, and didn't
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Speaker 1: didn't everybody criticized the pick of Daniel Jones. Well, guess
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Speaker 1: who picked him in the mock draft in this radio program. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I did. Yes, you got mocked for that mock draft.
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Speaker 1: I like, I like Daniel. Who's who's laughing now, Leon? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you get the last I'm laughing. Yeah. My my two
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Speaker 1: guys that I liked him the draft. I liked Haskins
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Speaker 1: and I like Daniel Jones. I thought they were both, uh,
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Speaker 1: really good option. I was not a big Caler Murray guy,
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Speaker 1: Um he looks tiny out there. Yeah, just small, right small?
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Speaker 1: The other guy that probably looked smaller in the league.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you saw the highlights of them, Leon,
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Speaker 1: but uh, the wide receiver Brown for the Baltimore Ravens.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about small, oh fast, and he's
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Speaker 1: gonna have to be fast. I would, I would, I'll
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Speaker 1: be honest with you. That if I were a general
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Speaker 1: manager of the Baltimore Ravens, if I saw him in person,
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Speaker 1: ain't no way. I can't draft. I can't draft him.
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Speaker 1: He's too small. But he's a good football player. Alright,
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Speaker 1: final thought here Thursday Night football Tonight, we'll hear from
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Speaker 1: Tony Bassali coming up for the second part of the
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Speaker 1: Doug Moron Show. He is at Lambeau Field tonight. But
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Speaker 1: the Eagles that wanted to face the Packers three and
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Speaker 1: oh at Lambeau Who you got tonight, guys, Leon you think? Um,
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Speaker 1: he looks I've got Green Bay winning it. But Aaron
57:37
Speaker 1: Rodgers hasn't been Aaron Roger risque, and I don't know
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Speaker 1: how long that's gonna last. The defense has kept him
57:42
Speaker 1: in games. Defense get the second defense, the ranked number
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Speaker 1: two behind the Patriots. They're only allowing the eleven point
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Speaker 1: nine points of the game. They've got eight turnovers, so
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Speaker 1: they've been covering. They've been covering the Patriots, I mean,
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Speaker 1: the Packers for the last three games. But it's hard
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Speaker 1: to win the Lambeau it's hard to win. And the
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Speaker 1: Eagles they're decimated with injuries. They got a couple of
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Speaker 1: guys coming back I know, uh, the wide receivers coming back, Jeffries,
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be back. Jeff was gonna be
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Speaker 1: back with the game. That might help a little bit.
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Speaker 1: But I just don't see the Eagles going in there.
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Speaker 1: And this isn't they have to win this game. They
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Speaker 1: can't go into the division with the Cowboys undefeated and
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Speaker 1: be one in three. They might so, I mean, they
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Speaker 1: they might end up being that way. But here's the reality.
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Speaker 1: The success rate of a road team on a short
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Speaker 1: week Thursday night football is not very good. Take the
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Speaker 1: home team every time, Packers. You got the Packers. I'll
58:34
Speaker 1: take the Packers to okay, because you're right, Aaron Rodgers
58:37
Speaker 1: will turn into Aaron Rodgers at some point as well
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Speaker 1: to match that deepense. So you have it. I'll do
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Speaker 1: it for our program tonight. Leon will talk to you
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. You got it for the public's tailgate show
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Speaker 1: and loves I'll talk to you and like like two
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Speaker 1: minutes begins. That's the next program coming up. The Jags
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Speaker 1: and the Broncos coming up. Final thought, here, fellows, real quick,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars get it done this Sunday, will Yon. They can
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Speaker 1: run the ball and be balanced yes, I believe they
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Speaker 1: could get it there. And I wrote this for for
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Speaker 1: Johnny O's article. I think the team that ends up
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Speaker 1: getting their first defensive takeaway of the season wins. Huh,
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Speaker 1: because neither neither team has a defensive takeaway like that.
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Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be a close football game,
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Speaker 1: real close football game. Tough environment, one of the toughest
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Speaker 1: this is. This is right on par with Kansas City,
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Speaker 1: and uh, the altitude makes it even tough. I was
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Speaker 1: about to say you can't breathe. I was questioning my
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Speaker 1: conditioning doing warm up. Trust me, we're back in a moment.
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Speaker 1: The Doug Brone Show is right after this. Thanks for
59:43
Speaker 1: listening to Jaguars Happy Hour the Jaguars Digital Network