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Twin sisters: One dead, one searching for a killer for 24 years. Who murdered Jody LeCornu? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, What happened to this beautiful,
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Speaker 1: beautiful girl and now a woman inspired by the Oscar
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Speaker 1: winning field three Billboards puts up a huge plea offering
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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars reward to try and find out
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Speaker 1: who murdered her twin sister. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: Do you know who killed Jody Lacorne? Twenty four years
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Speaker 1: after she was murdered? A sister is asking Baltimore the
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Speaker 1: same question she's been asking for decades. Just keep trying,
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Speaker 1: you know, trying to find who murdered her sister on
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Speaker 1: March second, nineteen ninety six. I feel like there's somebody
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Speaker 1: out there that knows something and that we just haven't
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Speaker 1: gotten to that person yet. Three new billboards going up
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Speaker 1: offering a one hundred thousand dollars reward. I really feel
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Speaker 1: like her case is solvable, and it's just it's very
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Speaker 1: frustrating to see this over these this time, and it
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Speaker 1: just it's making me just become more and more involved
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Speaker 1: a sister's crusade to crack the case. It's this terrible
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Speaker 1: place to be in because I know Jody was murdered
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Speaker 1: when we were twenty three, and my life just changed forever.
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Speaker 1: You're hearing our friends at w j Z CBS thirteen.
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Speaker 1: I mean Ac Grace, this is crime stories and with
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Speaker 1: me the sister, the twin sister of Jody Lakorneu, Jinny
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Speaker 1: Lakornu Careeri, her twin sister, also with me director of
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Speaker 1: the Coal Case Research Institute, Cheryl McCollum, Jenny, I want
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Speaker 1: to hear your story, your story, Jinny, starting with the
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Speaker 1: time you discovered your twin sister, Jody was murdered. Thank
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Speaker 1: you and I'm very grateful you having searing Jody's story.
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Speaker 1: And we were twenty three, were again called twins two
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Speaker 1: minutes apart. We were twenty three, and she was on
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Speaker 1: my parents' wedding anniversary. She was living in tous and
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Speaker 1: it was March second, nineteen ninety six. We were not
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Speaker 1: living together at the time. She was living with her
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Speaker 1: boyfriend and I was engaged in living out west. But
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Speaker 1: we were still, you know, we were inseparable growing up,
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Speaker 1: but we still you know, that's when they had the
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Speaker 1: landline phone. We still talked on the phone every day
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Speaker 1: and with reck up credit card bills to come visit
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Speaker 1: each other. And since she and her boyfriend had gotten
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Speaker 1: into a fight the Thursday nights Apolidays. It was Friday
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Speaker 1: morning that they got into a free hold on Jenny.
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Speaker 1: I just want to say something, Cheryl McCallum. You have
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Speaker 1: your two beautiful, beautiful children, and you told me the
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Speaker 1: way it was going to be when I had the twins.
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Speaker 1: You know, I want to be the closest one in
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Speaker 1: the world to them. I wanted to be me, but
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Speaker 1: I've had to accept it's each other. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: have boy girl, I have boy girl twins. They have
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Speaker 1: their own ways of communicating. In fact, my favorite picture
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Speaker 1: I've showed you, Cheryl, is of them immediately after their
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Speaker 1: birth and they're curled up together facing each other in
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Speaker 1: the hospital and he's holding her with his two hands
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Speaker 1: and she is sucking his nose. Oh my god, Yes,
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Speaker 1: And that is my favorite. I've got so many favorite pictures.
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Speaker 1: Why am I saying that's my favorite peture? But I
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Speaker 1: mean they I was listening to she was two minutes
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Speaker 1: apart from Jody. The twins were one minute apart. And
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't deny that bond between twins, Cheryl. Now,
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Speaker 1: you can't deny it. As close as Huck and Caroline
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Speaker 1: are and they even had their own language when they
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Speaker 1: were smaller, and only Caroline would only really talk to
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Speaker 1: Huck and he would translate for her. So and I know,
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Speaker 1: twins have their own language and telepathy and everything else.
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Speaker 1: And you know the person that literally starts life with you,
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Speaker 1: Like Jenny said about Jody, that was her best friend,
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Speaker 1: that was her lifelong, you know, best friend, and that's
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Speaker 1: how it was going to be. And I have to
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Speaker 1: tell you the way she is fighting for justice for her,
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Speaker 1: She's still Jody's best friend, you know, Jenny. I just
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Speaker 1: I just had to to weigh in on the closeness
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Speaker 1: between siblings, especially twins. And oh yeah, okay, to throw
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Speaker 1: you off, guys, for those of you just joining us,
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Speaker 1: Jenny lacorneu Careeri is with me. Her sister, then twenty
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Speaker 1: three year old Townsend University student, Jody was murdered. So
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Speaker 1: that evening what happened in your life, Jinny, well in
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Speaker 1: my life, so I was we I got the I
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Speaker 1: tried to call her on the Saturday morning, so she
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Speaker 1: had gone to work that day and her boyfriend told
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Speaker 1: her not to come home, and so I got it
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Speaker 1: was Saturday morning, you know, she got shot in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the night. It was the wee hours of Saturday,
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Speaker 1: and so I my punt called my fiance and had
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Speaker 1: him come tell me because they didn't want me to
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Speaker 1: be by myself. And I remember I had tried to
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Speaker 1: call her and I couldn't get a hold of her,
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Speaker 1: and I just I had a weird feeling, but nothing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you never think something as horrible as this,
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Speaker 1: you know, And so um, I mean I remember clearly
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Speaker 1: having these little, um, you know, my green flannel pajamas
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Speaker 1: and I'll never forgot it. But you know, I just
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Speaker 1: I went numb and suck. I mean, he just walked
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Speaker 1: in and said Jodie's dead. And just how to even
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Speaker 1: feel that? Understand it? It's it's just, I mean, that's
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Speaker 1: something that you see on in a movie or you know,
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Speaker 1: somebody being shot and um, you know, he said she
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Speaker 1: was shot in the parking lot or I can't remember
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Speaker 1: the exact way I went. The one thing I remember
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Speaker 1: is Jodie's dead, and um, I mean from then on,
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Speaker 1: it was just complete just going through the motions and
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Speaker 1: just getting getting back home to my family, and um,
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean just for years. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: just couldn't. I couldn't cope. I mean, it's it's truely
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Speaker 1: been in the last couple of years that I feel
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Speaker 1: like I've really started to deal with her death because
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Speaker 1: I just I couldn't. You know, Well, I've got to
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Speaker 1: tell you something. And I don't know that this is
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Speaker 1: good or bad, but I've never been able to bring
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Speaker 1: myself to go to where my fiancee was murdered. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't have any desire because it will destroy me
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Speaker 1: and I will be out of it for I don't
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Speaker 1: know how long. And I don't want to go into
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Speaker 1: a depression because of the twins especially, they don't need that. Guys.
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Speaker 1: For those of you who just joining us, twenty three
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Speaker 1: year old Jodie Lacorne was shot in the back while
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Speaker 1: she was seated in her car at the Drumcastle shopping
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Speaker 1: center off York Road. After being shot, she managed to
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Speaker 1: drive across York Road to another shopping center, and it
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Speaker 1: is there that she died. Joining me in addition to
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Speaker 1: her twins sister Jenny as director of the Coal Case
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Speaker 1: Research Institute Cheryl McCollum. Cheryl explained to me the dynamics
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Speaker 1: of that night when Jody was murdered. She had been
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Speaker 1: told by her living boyfriend not to come home. They
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Speaker 1: had a fight. So she goes on the world. Who
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Speaker 1: wa wait, right, why did he tell her not to
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Speaker 1: come home? Why? Why didn't she tell him not to
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Speaker 1: come home? That's a question I had for Jenny as well.
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Speaker 1: I don't understand that. But he did explain that Jenny,
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Speaker 1: before we go one inch further. Okay, where does he
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Speaker 1: get the power to tell her not to come home? Right?
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Speaker 1: He was a lot older than she was and she
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Speaker 1: liked to go to the local tavern and be with
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Speaker 1: her friend, So that was what he was angry out
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Speaker 1: as the night before he found out she had gone
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Speaker 1: to the tavern and he didn't want her there. He
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Speaker 1: wanted her to be home. Wow. Wow, Okay, I still
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Speaker 1: don't understand the power dynamic of him getting to tell
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Speaker 1: her you don't come home and she's left out in
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Speaker 1: the cold and not him. But that's a whole other canon.
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Speaker 1: Worms pick it up, Sheryl McCollum. So she goes to
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Speaker 1: the tavern and she stays with co workers and stays
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Speaker 1: stay until closing. There is a worker at the tavern
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Speaker 1: that needs a ride home, so Jody gives this man
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Speaker 1: a ride to his house. He doesn't drive, so she
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Speaker 1: takes him. And Jennifer will tell you that's uncharacteristic of her.
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Speaker 1: She normally wouldn't do anything like that this night she does.
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Speaker 1: Then she makes a call back to the tavern. We
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Speaker 1: don't know why or who she spoke to. Then from
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Speaker 1: there she goes to a liquor store where she buys
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Speaker 1: a six pack of beer. From there, she drives to
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Speaker 1: the parking lot of this little strip ball and she
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Speaker 1: parts her car. And she makes several other phone calls.
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Speaker 1: One is two her best friends who did not answer
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Speaker 1: the phone, but her boyfriend did and they talked for
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Speaker 1: a few minutes. But she made other calls that were
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Speaker 1: not privy to who they were too. But wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: when you say she's parting her car, so she's making
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Speaker 1: cell phone calls. Correct, Okay, go ahead. But what sticks
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Speaker 1: out to me, Nancy, is there are very few people
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Speaker 1: that I can call at three in the morning just
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Speaker 1: a chit chat. I mean, if my phone rings at three,
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Speaker 1: somebody's in major trouble, somebody's in a hospital, somebody's in jail.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason you're calling me at three
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Speaker 1: but she made several calls, and of course the police
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Speaker 1: have not released who all the calls were two and
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Speaker 1: that's one of those things that I think the family
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Speaker 1: might even be able to help them with it. They
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Speaker 1: would disclose that, But she made like to call sitting there.
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Speaker 1: As she's sitting in this parking lot, this gentleman approaches her.
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Speaker 1: Jody's driver's window is down, so she's a roll the
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Speaker 1: window down to talk to you this person, or it
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Speaker 1: was already down for whatever reason. But it was snow
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Speaker 1: in that night, so I can't imagine if she's sitting
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Speaker 1: there just you know, with the window down in the snow.
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Speaker 1: There are six witnesses that see her. There's a restaurant
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Speaker 1: across the street that's getting the delivery, and there's other
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Speaker 1: people around that are doing jobs. They're watching this. They
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Speaker 1: have some exchange at the driver's window. All of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: one gunshot rings out and Jody is able to drive
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Speaker 1: her vehicle out of the parking lot, across the intersection
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Speaker 1: of York Road into another parking area where the witnesses
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Speaker 1: are at, and there's like a little embankment where the
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Speaker 1: drive goes up and she pulls into another parking lot
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Speaker 1: of a tire store. The shooter gets in his car,
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Speaker 1: drives and follows her, gets out, goes inside the driver's window.
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Speaker 1: The witnesses say he took something. They couldn't tell what
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Speaker 1: it was, but he removed something from her car, gets
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Speaker 1: back into his car and high tells of that of
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Speaker 1: their left. He put her car and park. He put
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Speaker 1: her car and cart. They who believe he put her
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Speaker 1: harm part. Okay, this is what I want understand, Cheryl.
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Speaker 1: With at least six witnesses, why no one can identify
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Speaker 1: the shooter Crime stories with Nancy Grace Guys. Jennifer Carrey
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Speaker 1: has put up a billboard in the hopes it will
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Speaker 1: reach people who do not see the news or TV.
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Speaker 1: It's a red billboard and on it there's a photo
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Speaker 1: of a stunning young woman is her twin sister, Jody
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Speaker 1: Lakournew and it reads find my killer, offering on one
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollar reward. The tip line four one zero
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Speaker 1: eight eight seven two two two two four one zero
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Speaker 1: eight eight seven two two two that's Baltimore County Police Department.
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Speaker 1: Or you can go to Justice for Jody with the
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Speaker 1: number four Justice four Jody dot Com years of anguish
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Speaker 1: has led her twin sister Jennifer, to take this major
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Speaker 1: step in trying to solve the case. What do we know?
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Speaker 1: Listen the grim anniversary for one Maryland family. Twenty four
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Speaker 1: years ago, Jody Lecorno was murdered in Baltimore County. Now
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Speaker 1: there have been billboards, there's a reward now up to
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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars, and still no arrest. The nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety six murder of the twenty three year old housing
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Speaker 1: student in the drum Cancel Government Center parking lot on
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Speaker 1: York Road remains a mystery even tonight, but her twin sister, Jennifer,
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Speaker 1: and her mother, nearly eighty years old, having given up,
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Speaker 1: She and I went to the Gray Saint today looks
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Speaker 1: and my daughter very there. And it's just hard a
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Speaker 1: lot because I feel like I'm just going through the
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Speaker 1: motions of my life and it's you know, I feel like,
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Speaker 1: even after all these years, I truly haven't felt dealt
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Speaker 1: with her death. And it's just I don't know that
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Speaker 1: I ever will if she won't give up. If you
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Speaker 1: have any information, the family has set up a tip line.
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Speaker 1: That number is four ten four nine zero five zero
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Speaker 1: six nine to Jennie Lacornia Careery. This is Jody's sister.
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Speaker 1: What can you tell me about the boyfriend? Did he
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Speaker 1: own a gun? I did not know of him to
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Speaker 1: own a gun. No, I was unaware that if he
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Speaker 1: did or not. What did he do for a living.
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Speaker 1: He was a teacher at a private school in Baltimore.
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Speaker 1: And what was his demeanor following your twin sister's death?
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Speaker 1: Very sad and very cleanly to me, you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: just curious. I'm very curious about who she was with
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Speaker 1: that evening, and obviously no one she could go home with.
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Speaker 1: She was out in a parking lot, sitting there, banished
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Speaker 1: from her apartment by her boyfriend, just sitting there with
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Speaker 1: a six pack. I guess, planning to sit the night
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Speaker 1: out in the car at a shopping center where apparently
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCalls she felt very comfortable in that spot. I mean, Cheryl,
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Speaker 1: have you ever, for whatever reason, just gone and parked
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Speaker 1: your car and just sat there and thought. No, I
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Speaker 1: have plenty of times, plenty of times just sat there
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Speaker 1: and thought, thought, or made phone calls or I worked
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Speaker 1: on something, just to be alone and just think. As
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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, Cheryl, you and I were working
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Speaker 1: on a cold case murder yesterday right and after we
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Speaker 1: left the homicide coal a division, I had a ton
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Speaker 1: of stuff to do, but I ended up going to
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Speaker 1: the Twins school early and I sat there and I
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Speaker 1: thought about that crime victim and all the various scenarios
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Speaker 1: about how her murder could have gone down, like trying
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Speaker 1: to put together a Ruby's cube over it over. By
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Speaker 1: the time I looked up, over thirty minutes had passed, right,
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Speaker 1: and I just was thinking, and I'm wondering, Jinny, what
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Speaker 1: was she thinking about as she sat in that car. Well,
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Speaker 1: for her, she had terrible anxiety and was literally afraid
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Speaker 1: of her own closet. So for her, at a young
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Speaker 1: age at that time, for her to go sit in
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Speaker 1: a dark parking lot was very un characteristic. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that just wasn't something that she would do. And it
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Speaker 1: was snowing that night. She was afraid to drive in
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Speaker 1: the snow. I mean, she's afraid of everything. So why
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Speaker 1: she wouldn't have maybe just even just gone home, even
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Speaker 1: though he told her not to, or she had likes
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Speaker 1: of friends, Why she wouldn't have gone to somebody's house
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Speaker 1: is just very odd to us that for her to
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Speaker 1: just everything she'd get that night. I mean, she had
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Speaker 1: a heart of gold. She would do anything for anyone,
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Speaker 1: but to drive the employee home that she didn't know
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Speaker 1: he was a janitor. It's just not her that night
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Speaker 1: to be doing what she did. Another interesting fact to
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCallum. We know that after Jody is shot, and
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Speaker 1: I find it very probitive that she shot in the back.
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Speaker 1: How was she shot in the back if the guy
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Speaker 1: the killer was standing at her driver's window. I believe
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Speaker 1: she was, and I think I can prove that she
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Speaker 1: was driving away from him. So for whatever reason, something happened.
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Speaker 1: He either said something or he brandished the weapons. Because
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Speaker 1: witnesses say he's standing at the driver's window, she is
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Speaker 1: actually shot through the driver's seat, so he's now behind
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Speaker 1: her a little bit. When the bullet enters, it actually
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Speaker 1: enters left her right side at a downward angle. So again,
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Speaker 1: if she first drove off and he just pulls the
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Speaker 1: gun up, it's going to be left. And the car
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Speaker 1: was at a four door, it was the back window shattered. Yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: so it went through the back window. Okay, now I
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Speaker 1: understand much better. I thought he shot through the driver's window,
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Speaker 1: and I was trying to positionally figure out how she
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Speaker 1: got shot in the back if he was at the
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Speaker 1: driver's window, and I assume she was reaching over to
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Speaker 1: the passenger side. Now I understand she was driving away.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Jennifer Carrey has put up
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Speaker 1: a billboard and on it is her twin sister, Jody Lakornu,
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Speaker 1: and it reads find my Killer. Twenty three year old
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Speaker 1: Jodi Lucornu was shot in the back while she was
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Speaker 1: seated in her car at the Drumcastle shopping center. After
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Speaker 1: being shot, she managed to drive across York Road to
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Speaker 1: another shopping center. And we also know that after she
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Speaker 1: shot and drives across the street, her car circles and
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Speaker 1: stops at a curb. The man we think the killer,
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Speaker 1: watched from his vehicle. He had a vehicle until it
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Speaker 1: rolled to a stop between a Boston Chicken and a
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Speaker 1: Firestone tire, and he then approached the car, leaned over her,
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Speaker 1: put it in part, grabs something from next to her
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Speaker 1: on the seat, then the killer drives off. Is the
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Speaker 1: killer the one doing all of that? Share girl? Yes,
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Speaker 1: he's well. Nobody can identify his car. They know it's
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Speaker 1: a white BMW. They know BMW's that's new information to me.
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Speaker 1: Right there, white BMW. They not only have the six witnesses,
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Speaker 1: they have videotape. They have a description of him, wearing
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Speaker 1: a camouflage jacket. He's stocky, he's about five six, about
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Speaker 1: two hundred pounds. They know, they know the description. I
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Speaker 1: don't understand why why this has not been solved. Take her.
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Speaker 1: Listen to our friend at w j Z CBS thirteen.
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Speaker 1: This is Devin Bartolotta. The nightmare for Jody began after
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Speaker 1: a night out at the Washington Tavern in the early
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Speaker 1: morning hours of March second, nineteen ninety six, just steps
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Speaker 1: from the city County line. Police believe Jody was shot
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Speaker 1: while sitting in her car in this parking lot. She
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Speaker 1: then drove across the street to Your Road Plaza. Her
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Speaker 1: killer followed her and then reached into the car. Witnesses
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Speaker 1: described the shooter as a blackmail with a stocky build,
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Speaker 1: wearing a muflage jacket, but nearly twenty three years later,
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Speaker 1: no one knows what he took from inside Jody's car.
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Speaker 1: He took off south on Your Road in a white BMW.
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Speaker 1: Years after, leads ran dry, maybe money. We'll talk you know,
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Speaker 1: to you Jinny Jinnie Lacornew Careery. This is Jody's twin sister.
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Speaker 1: What do he believe he took from her car? Well,
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Speaker 1: they always, the police always told us that something was
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Speaker 1: taken from her car, but wouldn't tell us what it was.
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Speaker 1: But then they would say her purse was missing. And
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Speaker 1: then Sheryl and I just learned in the last couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks at her phone. My parents had bought her
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Speaker 1: one of those bag phones because they were worried about
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Speaker 1: her living in Baltimore, And so now we learned that
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Speaker 1: her phone and her purse were not there. So that's
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Speaker 1: a lot for him to take. What is a bag phone, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: even the old sail phones that were literally in a
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Speaker 1: bag like they were in a little league. Oh my goodness,
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Speaker 1: like a big yeah. Everybody in the studio is acting
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Speaker 1: it out and gesticulating a big phone about the size
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Speaker 1: of what almost like a little lunch poo, like a
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Speaker 1: little bag like a pr that's pretty good, sigh. Okay,
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Speaker 1: all right, So she had one of those, so that's missing,
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Speaker 1: and her pocketbook is missing. What they couldn't trace any
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Speaker 1: of that, none of her credit cards, where everywhere credit
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Speaker 1: cards ever used? Jenny, I don't know. I mean they
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Speaker 1: there's very limited information that we've gotten. And where she
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Speaker 1: ended up there was camera there, they did obtain video,
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Speaker 1: but where she ended up in a giant parking lot,
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Speaker 1: they told us the cameras happened to be down that night. Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's just Cheryl, this is just so wrong. Well, I
22:33
Speaker 1: don't know if her credit cards were used, her ATMs
22:36
Speaker 1: were used, any of her checks were forged. I don't
22:40
Speaker 1: know if they tried to trace her cell phone. I
22:42
Speaker 1: don't know any of those answers. Why aren't police releasing
22:45
Speaker 1: any of that? You know, the boy Scouts could have
22:48
Speaker 1: solved her case. I mean, seriously, the way that I've
22:50
Speaker 1: seen in the years, everything that I've done looking into
22:54
Speaker 1: their investigation, and Boltimore County brags about their clearance rate,
22:58
Speaker 1: they have missed so much. They have told me they've
23:01
Speaker 1: interviewed people, they haven't. They've contradicted, They've been inappropriate, they've
23:04
Speaker 1: been disrespectful, they've been horrible. Who what do you mean inappropriate?
23:09
Speaker 1: Disrespect the detective in my communication with him, I mean,
23:15
Speaker 1: has he's been inappropriate and him and his bosses, I
23:20
Speaker 1: mean they've been I mean, I had their lawyers slammed
23:22
Speaker 1: the door, and I had a lawsuit trying to get record.
23:24
Speaker 1: Their lawyer slammed the door in my face. They talked
23:27
Speaker 1: down to me. It's been horrible. It's been a nightmare.
23:31
Speaker 1: When you say inappropriate, what do you mean by that?
23:36
Speaker 1: So well? I mean, if you want me to give
23:38
Speaker 1: you some of the comments, the detective that's been on
23:40
Speaker 1: the case since day one shared with me about having
23:42
Speaker 1: a relationship with a sister of a suspect and how
23:45
Speaker 1: he was separated from his wife. Just sharing things that
23:51
Speaker 1: I don't need to know. Wow, Okay, Cheryl, I don't
23:54
Speaker 1: understand what's going on within the payday to police department here,
23:58
Speaker 1: and why are they shutting her out? Why is she
24:02
Speaker 1: Why is Genie la cornea careery having to take out
24:04
Speaker 1: a billboard to try to get her sister's murder sow Cheryl.
24:09
Speaker 1: It's worse than that. It's worse than that. She literally
24:13
Speaker 1: had to sue the police department to find out how
24:17
Speaker 1: her sister died. They would refuse to show her the
24:20
Speaker 1: autopsy report. They've refused to tell her who they've talked to,
24:25
Speaker 1: who her sister calls anything related to this case. She's
24:29
Speaker 1: never seen one shred a paper, one tid bit of
24:33
Speaker 1: information from the police department. And I told her I've
24:37
Speaker 1: never known of a homicide case where the family was
24:41
Speaker 1: not told the manner of death, exactly what happened to her.
24:44
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to figure out how your lawsuit
24:48
Speaker 1: can get answers to Genie La Corneu careery. This is
24:51
Speaker 1: Jody's sister. What has become of the lawsuit? Where does
24:54
Speaker 1: it stand now? So well, I mean just to tell you,
24:58
Speaker 1: my family has put in almost three thou dollars and
25:00
Speaker 1: trying to get her records, and we've done seven billboards total.
25:03
Speaker 1: I've done one, I did a plea to the governor,
25:06
Speaker 1: I did one of the state's attorney. And where it
25:09
Speaker 1: stands as we were unable to get anything, and so
25:15
Speaker 1: with the lawsuit, and I have a pro bono law
25:20
Speaker 1: firm that's come forward to help me. That's basically what
25:24
Speaker 1: the lawsuit was. They wanted me there, we were, it
25:27
Speaker 1: was clear we weren't getting anywhere and my attourney. They
25:30
Speaker 1: basically came up with a confidential agreement which basically was
25:34
Speaker 1: nothing that I shut up and they're going to be
25:36
Speaker 1: working on the case again. I can't really get into
25:38
Speaker 1: the specifics, but that's the gist of it. And so
25:42
Speaker 1: I'm we're still where we were twenty three years ago.
25:45
Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. It's put me and my family
25:49
Speaker 1: through how and they're still sitting on their asses politicizu
25:57
Speaker 1: and it's it's like they don't want to solve her
25:59
Speaker 1: case and and why I don't know. Um. You know,
26:03
Speaker 1: I'm trying everything I can to keep continue to keep
26:06
Speaker 1: her story out there too. You know, I've met with
26:08
Speaker 1: the Governor's office, I've gone to the County executives office.
26:10
Speaker 1: As everybody says they're going to help me, nobody does. Um.
26:14
Speaker 1: I can't talk to the police directly because of the
26:17
Speaker 1: lawsuit which ended a couple of years ago, and they
26:20
Speaker 1: want me you know, I' supposed to be talking to
26:21
Speaker 1: their attorney, the one that screamed at me and slammed
26:23
Speaker 1: the door in my face because I asked a question.
26:26
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's it's horrible. I don't understand it,
26:29
Speaker 1: does Cheryl McCollum, director of the Coal Case Research Institute.
26:32
Speaker 1: What is this Baltimore County PD, what's jurisdiction is this
26:35
Speaker 1: and are they that angry? Jenny wants answers. I've never
26:39
Speaker 1: seen anything like it, Nancy M. I've contacted the attective myself.
26:44
Speaker 1: I told you I had just thirteen questions. He said,
26:46
Speaker 1: send them, I'll get them to our PIO and I'll
26:49
Speaker 1: ate for He wouldn't answer any of them. And film
26:52
Speaker 1: were very simple. Well, if her first taken from the car,
26:55
Speaker 1: because I think we can prove that it was, they
26:57
Speaker 1: never gave it back to her. The phone missing, so
27:00
Speaker 1: obviously those are the two things she grabbed. I mean,
27:04
Speaker 1: here's what's astonishing. Can mean that you get to the
27:07
Speaker 1: point with a victim of crime that they have to
27:09
Speaker 1: sue you for something as simple as the autopicity report
27:13
Speaker 1: that anybody that wants an alt talk support can go
27:15
Speaker 1: down and get it. The manner of death in Jody's
27:20
Speaker 1: case would not hinder this investigation at all. It's not
27:25
Speaker 1: like a crime scene where there's some specific signature that
27:28
Speaker 1: they're trying to keep from the public because it's part
27:31
Speaker 1: of who this person is and they know there's other
27:33
Speaker 1: cases like it. They have refused to answer a simple
27:38
Speaker 1: questions like Jennifer didn't even know she was shot in
27:41
Speaker 1: the back, she assumed it. But there's one crime scene
27:45
Speaker 1: photograph they released and I showed her. I said, well, honey, there,
27:49
Speaker 1: I said, there's a bullet hole right there in the
27:51
Speaker 1: back of the driver's seat. I said, I can tell
27:53
Speaker 1: you she was shot in the back. And I said,
27:55
Speaker 1: what probably happened. Is it either nick the lung or
27:58
Speaker 1: her heart. It might to break to stay a little bit,
28:01
Speaker 1: and she had internal believing. But if you can't breathe,
28:03
Speaker 1: you do crime stories with Nancy Grace, a woman puts
28:19
Speaker 1: up a huge plea offering one hundred thousand dollars reward
28:26
Speaker 1: to try and find out who murdered her twin sister
28:32
Speaker 1: with me Jinny Lacornew Careeri. In these years that have
28:36
Speaker 1: passed since Jody was murdered, they've got surveillance video, although
28:41
Speaker 1: they say that snow that evening interfere with them being
28:43
Speaker 1: able to see anything. They've got an ID on the car,
28:47
Speaker 1: an ID on the purp. Who knows what else they've got.
28:51
Speaker 1: I mean, if he reached into the car, did they
28:53
Speaker 1: get a fingerprint? Did he touch anything when he they
28:57
Speaker 1: have fingerprints? Hasn't been into aphis I mean you know
29:02
Speaker 1: that the national kid in the car. They actually left
29:04
Speaker 1: the fingerprinty kid in the car when they returned it
29:07
Speaker 1: to my parents, which means that somewhere. You know what,
29:10
Speaker 1: Cheryl McCallum, it's very hard for me to believe that
29:13
Speaker 1: this guy went from zero to one twenty mph in
29:15
Speaker 1: one night. What does that say to me? That means
29:17
Speaker 1: he's got a record some where. I'd be curious as
29:21
Speaker 1: the fingerprints. Were they able to get fingerprints and were
29:26
Speaker 1: they plugged into APHIS, the National Data Bank of Fingerprints.
29:31
Speaker 1: But question to you, in the years that have passed
29:34
Speaker 1: since Jody was murdered, Jenny, how has Jody's murder affected you?
29:38
Speaker 1: You know, I think I was just so numb for
29:41
Speaker 1: so long, and I couldn't wouldn't let myself feel. I
29:47
Speaker 1: just I literally had to just shut it all down.
29:51
Speaker 1: It was it was so incredibly painful, and um, I
29:55
Speaker 1: mean I was horribly anxious and depressed, and I mean
29:59
Speaker 1: I could may even be alone. And you know, I
30:01
Speaker 1: moved back home and I couldn't even be alone. I
30:05
Speaker 1: was twenty three and I couldn't be alone in a room.
30:07
Speaker 1: I would sleep with my mother. I was just terrified
30:10
Speaker 1: for years. Yeah, Well, you know what, Jenny, I used
30:13
Speaker 1: to sleep with my mom and dad after Keith was murdered. Yeah,
30:17
Speaker 1: they would let me get in between him. Oh and
30:19
Speaker 1: I don't know how long I did that because I
30:21
Speaker 1: just could not get through the night. So many nights,
30:25
Speaker 1: and I do not think that is uncommon, Jenny. These
30:30
Speaker 1: years have passed without Jody birthdays, Christmas's weddings. How was
30:38
Speaker 1: her murder? And the Thatcher chase has never been solved
30:41
Speaker 1: affected you as your life moves forward. Like I said,
30:46
Speaker 1: I couldn't deal with it for the longest time. But
30:49
Speaker 1: I feel literally like part of me died that day.
30:52
Speaker 1: I mean it's like you're living one life and then
30:55
Speaker 1: it's another life. I mean for years, I feel like
30:57
Speaker 1: I'm just going through the motion that I I ended
31:01
Speaker 1: up getting married. I didn't want to have a wedding
31:03
Speaker 1: because it was just too sad, So my husband and
31:06
Speaker 1: I eloped, you know. Then my father, I wanted to
31:08
Speaker 1: also mention he was a prosecutor. He prosecuted drug and
31:12
Speaker 1: violent crime cases. And my grandfather was many years in
31:15
Speaker 1: the FBI under jed Or Hoover. So I mean, we
31:17
Speaker 1: have definitely the history of service and so but my
31:24
Speaker 1: father became very ill after Jodi died and with non
31:28
Speaker 1: Hutchins on Pam Whist, it was like just another really
31:31
Speaker 1: really horrible time taking care of him. And and it's
31:34
Speaker 1: literally been like in the last couple of years really
31:37
Speaker 1: like feeling her death and people would be so worried
31:41
Speaker 1: about me because I couldn't maybe like you're not dealing
31:44
Speaker 1: with this, and it's been hard. I mean, I you
31:47
Speaker 1: talked about depression. I mean I've I've gotten really low.
31:50
Speaker 1: I mean I've been extremely depressed, extremely anxious, wanted to die.
31:54
Speaker 1: I mean it's caused horrible battles in my marriage. I mean,
31:59
Speaker 1: with my fight for justice, and um, you know, I
32:02
Speaker 1: suffer with a terrible eating disorder and that just is horrible, like, um,
32:08
Speaker 1: you know, anxiety, and it just it's like I can't
32:11
Speaker 1: cope sometimes, and you know, it's like some days I'd
32:15
Speaker 1: be like just like going through the motions, you know.
32:16
Speaker 1: And Jody always loved bunnies, and it's like every once
32:20
Speaker 1: in a while I see a bunny rabbit and I
32:21
Speaker 1: feel like it's her, um, like sending me a sign
32:24
Speaker 1: or something. Because I have really really struggled, like I said,
32:28
Speaker 1: with the depression and like trying to want to keep going,
32:33
Speaker 1: you know, and um, you know, I have three children,
32:36
Speaker 1: so it's it's really hard, and it's it's hard. I
32:40
Speaker 1: mean it's been really hard. I mean day to day.
32:42
Speaker 1: My husband, like I said, he he's been supportive, but
32:46
Speaker 1: I really like have done a lot of things with
32:49
Speaker 1: her case interviews and things, and um, then I feel
32:53
Speaker 1: like I feel guilty with my family, like I'm not
32:56
Speaker 1: giving them me, you know what I mean. Well, I
32:59
Speaker 1: don't know if this would help in any way, But
33:02
Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, victims of violent crime, many of them go
33:07
Speaker 1: through this. They have a death wish, they don't want
33:10
Speaker 1: to live. Trust me, I understand what you're saying. Every
33:17
Speaker 1: word of what you're saying. You have been quoted in
33:21
Speaker 1: the past, Jenny as saying that you believe this case
33:25
Speaker 1: can be solved. Cheryl McCollum, agree or disagree, Absolutely agree,
33:30
Speaker 1: no question about it. And this person who did it
33:33
Speaker 1: told people you know as well as I do. They
33:36
Speaker 1: would mentioned it, they would brag about it. This person's
33:38
Speaker 1: been in and out of jail. Other people know this
33:41
Speaker 1: story from the shooter and what you know Jennifer's doing
33:46
Speaker 1: is so amazing And I want to brag on a
33:48
Speaker 1: one second. As you know, May the corn sisters extraordinarily
33:53
Speaker 1: close to all four of them. You have a sister
33:55
Speaker 1: that you're extraordinarily close to, and I know after Keith's
33:58
Speaker 1: murder you would even and stayed with her, and she
34:01
Speaker 1: helped you get through that awful time. I went to
34:05
Speaker 1: Baltimore to walk the crime scene and Jennifer met me
34:08
Speaker 1: there because you know, I'm visual. I want to see
34:10
Speaker 1: it and understand it. And we go into this little
34:13
Speaker 1: coffee shop. Keep in mind, she's got these billboards up.
34:15
Speaker 1: She's doing major media, she's doing Nancy Grace, she's working
34:20
Speaker 1: with Lester, whole different people. She goes into the coffee shop,
34:24
Speaker 1: keep girl behind this counter, and she says, hey, have
34:27
Speaker 1: you seen my sisters billboard? Please on your break go
34:30
Speaker 1: look at it. Nancy. It took all I could do
34:34
Speaker 1: and not this to heart, literally crying in that coffee shop,
34:37
Speaker 1: thinking here, this poor woman is literally going person the
34:43
Speaker 1: person the person. Forget the Nancy Graces and the Lester
34:46
Speaker 1: holds in the billboards. She is going to people individually
34:51
Speaker 1: to try to make sure they know about Jody and
34:53
Speaker 1: what happened to her. And Matt just said so much
34:57
Speaker 1: to me about her heart and the read and she's
35:00
Speaker 1: really doing this in the power and that sister bond
35:04
Speaker 1: that you just cannot deny. So I wanted to say
35:06
Speaker 1: that about her, and I also wanted to say personally
35:09
Speaker 1: again to you and Lee Egan Nancy, what y'all are
35:13
Speaker 1: doing and what you've already done for her. I will
35:16
Speaker 1: tell you that there has been a small victory Jennifer.
35:20
Speaker 1: You want to tell her. Yeah, you were able to
35:21
Speaker 1: get Fivener. Thank you. We did get the autopsy report.
35:25
Speaker 1: Thanks for you, guy. You've really just moved me to
35:27
Speaker 1: tears because you know, I don't know what world it
35:31
Speaker 1: is that it is a victory that you get your
35:34
Speaker 1: sister's autopsy report, but the reality is it is a victory. Guys.
35:40
Speaker 1: If you can help us, please call one eight six
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Speaker 1: six seven to five six two five eight seven. Please
35:49
Speaker 1: help us catch this beautiful young girl, Jennie Lacordiu's killer.
35:54
Speaker 1: Please give her twin sister Jenny some peace. See Grace
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Speaker 1: Crime story. Signing off, goodbye, h