Latest / Targeting Winners: A College Football Betting Podcast / CFP Second Round Picks, Totals and New Year's Eve Betting Guide
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- 0:03Hello everyone. Welcome to Targeting Winners.
- 0:06Thank you for joining me. I'm joined today as usual by
- 0:10Peter and Darren. How you guys doing?
- 0:14Not too bad getting there. New year, so almost 2026.
- 0:17Happy to be here again, Excited for the playoff games coming up
- 0:21and all of that. So looking forward to a good
- 0:23week. Yeah, you sunburned yet?
- 0:26You look like you're. I'm toast up nice and nice and
- 0:30brown. At this point it's been a month
- 0:31and 1/2 so I'm cooked up at a nice level.
- 0:33Let's say it's not bad. Darren, any sunburn for you?
- 0:36No and Pete can fuck all the way off.
- 0:41After the snow we had from our last show, we've been blessed
- 0:44with freezing rain. I hate New York, Tim, find me a
- 0:47house in Florida. Anytime you've got a free hour
- 0:49on your hands, I will pack up and move immediately.
- 0:54All right, well, we're going to talk about the the games.
- 0:56We're also going to get to peek at a second Christmas present.
- 1:00He had one show on Moore extremely early one right around
- 1:04Christmas time with a new coach at Michigan.
- 1:07And we'll get into our picks. But first, if you're listening
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- 1:53Yes, thank you. Absolutely.
- 1:57So Peter, you had no coach, now you've got a coach.
- 2:03Yes, we have a coach that. Yeah, I mean, it's it's a good
- 2:09hireright? It's not to me.
- 2:12It's not a home run hire. I've seen it kicked around as
- 2:15such. It's it's a home rider.
- 2:17It's a home run hire in the sense that he's somebody who can
- 2:21stabilize the program, right. He's somebody who, you know,
- 2:24created a culture and a program, you know, at Utah for a long
- 2:28time. You know, that's a quality
- 2:30program, quality culture, all of that.
- 2:33You know, Hall of Fame coach there.
- 2:34I mean, you know, a guy that is going to be the right kind of
- 2:38coach that Michigan needs right now.
- 2:40There's been enough nonsense, enough scandals, enough of the
- 2:42stuff that's going on. You know, we needed this type of
- 2:45person, whether him or not, it's what we needed, right?
- 2:49We, you know, we didn't need, you know, kind of like a young,
- 2:53you know, coordinator coming in. We didn't need that, right?
- 2:55We needed, you know, an experienced coach who's been
- 2:57there, done it and all of that. And so I think from that
- 3:00perspective, it's a great hire. Yeah.
- 3:03I mean, do I see national championships coming anytime
- 3:06soon? I do not.
- 3:07But do I see the program hopefully moving back toward a
- 3:10stable, respectful level? I do, right?
- 3:15And so that's good, right? Because I think that's what's
- 3:17needed right now is. So from that perspective, I'm
- 3:20happy. I think it'll be it'll be a good
- 3:22thing and we'll see how it goes. But yeah, I mean, you, you
- 3:25couldn't ask for a a better guy to come in and put out the fire
- 3:29and just get things kind of stable.
- 3:32And and from that perspective, I'm happy.
- 3:33It's obviously not the guy I wanted.
- 3:35I'm a big PJ Fleck guy. We've talked about that.
- 3:37That wasn't going to happen anytime soon, but P JS young
- 3:40enough. So maybe when, you know, this
- 3:43goes its merry way a few years from now, maybe that'll be P JS
- 3:47time. But at least at this moment, I'm
- 3:48pretty happy that we we got pretty quickly through this
- 3:52process without rushing it. We got a coach that I'm happy
- 3:56with and it seems that most people are pretty happy with, so
- 3:59that's that's a good thing. So overall I'm happy way better
- 4:02than we were. We have an actual coach rather
- 4:05than the guy that had been bashing for two years, so I'm
- 4:08good about that. Well, yeah, actually, Mark from
- 4:12coach's hot seat was all over it.
- 4:13The very next morning, we got an e-mail.
- 4:16He had a similar, similar take, and he thinks that Michigan may
- 4:19be looking for another coach within a couple years.
- 4:22Waddington's more of a stopgap kind of guy.
- 4:25Oh, reminds me, during the offseason we are going to have
- 4:29some other some more content for you guys out there.
- 4:31One of the shows, I believe sometime in February we're going
- 4:35to do a live stream with Mark. So instead of a ask me anything,
- 4:38it's going to be Ask Mark anything.
- 4:40All your coaches. Do you have a date on that yet,
- 4:42Darren? It looks like we're we're, no
- 4:46pun intended, targeting the week of February 9th.
- 4:50That'll give us Mark and anybody else who's followed college
- 4:54football all year long, nice little two or three-week break
- 4:57after the national title game. He has agreed to do the show.
- 5:01We're going to hammer out a day and time that worked best for
- 5:03him. He's he's 3 hours behind you and
- 5:06I, Tim, two hours behind Pete. So probably in the next, I
- 5:11probably say probably around the national championship week,
- 5:13maybe the Tuesday or Wednesday after that game's done, I will
- 5:16get with him. But yeah, it's a go.
- 5:18He's on board. He loves the idea.
- 5:21Probably set around an hour or so.
- 5:22Just bring your questions. Coaches you love, coaches you
- 5:24hate, you want to know why your coach isn't fired yet?
- 5:26Chances are Mark knows why. So it should be a good time.
- 5:30And we do have a schedule that's I would say probably 8590%.
- 5:37I don't want to say set in stone because the dates can always
- 5:39change, but as far as some content in the offseason, so,
- 5:43you know, final channels don't do that.
- 5:44We love college football, so we're going to talk about
- 5:46whatever. There'll be a lot of conference
- 5:48previews. We may even have some of those
- 5:49things live for some of the Power 4 conferences.
- 5:52We'll see how it goes. But yes, Mark's live stream is
- 5:54ready to go sometime second week in February.
- 5:57Yeah, well, like we did a show with him a while back.
- 6:00Remember after we after we got done recording.
- 6:03I wish I kept the recording going because he was giving us
- 6:05some inside baseball with what happened with Reggie Bush, USC
- 6:09and meeting the Moss kids family at the one of the bowl games or
- 6:13whatever. But the stuff he was talking
- 6:15about with Reggie Bush's family was pretty interesting.
- 6:18I wasn't had the recorder going, but Oh well.
- 6:21But yeah, he, he knows his stuff.
- 6:23He's got some inside scoops. He's got some sources.
- 6:26Definitely check out coacheshotseat.com and we'll
- 6:29have him here live to answer your questions in February.
- 6:32And with that, let's do some bowl games, guys.
- 6:35We got the Independence Bowl. It's gonna be this Thursday at
- 6:392:00. Sharee Port Louisiana, Louisiana
- 6:41Tech -7 with over under a 52 1/2 against Coastal Carolina.
- 6:47Darren, we will start with you on this one.
- 6:50You know, I mean, I'm never a fan of programs where the coach
- 6:54is gone most of the time, and Coastal Carolina does fit that
- 6:59bill. As Tim Beck has left, their
- 7:02defense coordinator is the interim for this game.
- 7:05So naturally I would lean Louisiana Tech, but they're
- 7:09going to be rolling with their third string quarterback because
- 7:11Blake Baker and Evan Bullock are not expected to play here for
- 7:14Tech. Tech's never been known as an
- 7:17offensive powerhouse this year, neither has Coastal Carolina.
- 7:22But as I look at DraftKings I I see the spread is sitting around
- 7:2510 and while I don't have a bet on it, if I had to have a lean
- 7:31here, I would lean to take that 10 because I I don't really know
- 7:34what we're going to get out of either offense. 10 just seems
- 7:38too good to pass up. Total's 50 1/2.
- 7:41I'd feel more confident that was maybe around 4344, but I would
- 7:46lean the 10 here with Coastal. Not super confident in it but
- 7:49that's that's where I would head.
- 7:52Peter, any thoughts? Yeah, that total has been coming
- 7:54down. Opened at 52 1/2.
- 7:56I had 51 1/2, it's down to 50 1/2.
- 7:58So it's been coming down. No surprise, based on what
- 8:01Darren said, I thought about going under in this game.
- 8:04I mean, to me it's a bit of a coin flip, but based on all the
- 8:06factors that Darren just said, a little bit of a lacking offense
- 8:09and a law tech side and a third string quarterback, I don't know
- 8:12what you're going to coastal side.
- 8:14I mean, it kind of sniffs an under here, but honestly, I
- 8:18don't know what's going to happen with this game.
- 8:19To me, it's a bit of a coin flip.
- 8:20So I agree with Darren, if you're going to do anything,
- 8:23maybe take those points, but otherwise, I don't know what to
- 8:26do with that. So I'm just staying away.
- 8:28Right. Interesting takes on that one.
- 8:30We're going to move on Music City Bowl again.
- 8:33This is on the 30th, 5:30 in Nashville.
- 8:38We got a opening line of Tennessee -6 1/2, but over under
- 8:4261 1/2 against Illinois. Got a few portals and opt outs
- 8:48there for each team. Well, Pete, we'll start with
- 8:51you. We got one of your Big 10 teams
- 8:52here. Where do you come down on this
- 8:54one here? Yeah.
- 8:55I mean, this feels like scoring, right.
- 8:58I mean, to me originally it felt like quite a bit scoring 61
- 9:011/2's a pretty big number for a bowl.
- 9:05Yeah. So I don't know.
- 9:06I mean, but it also felt like kind of the right number.
- 9:08And that's that's where I was struggling a bit with this.
- 9:10This almost felt like a 5050 to me with that number.
- 9:14It's always been all over the place this year in terms of
- 9:17scoring. So I don't really know if I can
- 9:18trust them to score enough. And I was, I was kind of leaning
- 9:22on the on the under on this just because I didn't know where it
- 9:24was going to go. But honestly, I really, really
- 9:28didn't. I mean, I think Tennessee is
- 9:29going to win this game. If I was doing anything, I might
- 9:31weigh those points with 6 1/2 and go with Tennessee just
- 9:34because of the way Illinois has been all year, kind of little
- 9:36Jekyll and Heinish. So if I was going anywhere, I'd
- 9:39go there. But with that point, point,
- 9:41point, point, point, point, whatever I'm trying to say
- 9:45there, I would not. I'm just going to move on.
- 9:47And Darren? They off to tequila.
- 9:49So it's on here. I was actually leaning the under
- 9:52here. I was thinking about firing with
- 9:54the 61 just in case of the Illinois defense does show up.
- 9:58But Dana, where do you come down with this game?
- 10:01Yeah, I mean, I was going to leave this game alone and
- 10:04actually I officially did not have a play on this, but I see
- 10:07DraftKings, Tennessee's down to 3 1/2 and that actually has me
- 10:13leaning toward the Volunteers in this one.
- 10:17Total I had actually was a little bit different.
- 10:19I I mean, Tennessee's defense complete ass and their defensive
- 10:23coordinator has been fired. So I don't expect it to improve
- 10:26in this game. Illinois opt outs aren't, I
- 10:30mean, there's not any. I mean, Tennessee's got a lot.
- 10:33I mean, they have as many injuries as they have opt outs.
- 10:38Illinois doesn't really have a whole lot.
- 10:40I mean one of their offensive lineman who started all 12 games
- 10:42is out, but that's pretty much it.
- 10:45But 3 1/2? I have a slightly strong lean
- 10:50towards Tennessee here. Yeah, I only have so much room
- 10:54on these slides for the for the graphics, so I just put the
- 10:57first table that I see. You would need another page for
- 11:00Tennessee. At least two more slides for all
- 11:02these opt outs, especially one, I think the the Nebraska game,
- 11:06Nebraska, Utah, we'll get to you later on that a crap ton between
- 11:09the injuries and all the players out.
- 11:11It's just a colossal screw up here.
- 11:14So we got the Alamo Bowl coming up Tuesday on the 30th, 9 O
- 11:18clock, San Antonio, TX opening line, USC -5 1/2.
- 11:21It opened up. I believe it's 6 1/2 now over
- 11:25under a 55 1/2. We got a couple of big opt outs
- 11:29there for TCU or actually a transfer portal.
- 11:32Actually, let's see. We started with Darren last time
- 11:35I believe. So Peter USCTCU, where you
- 11:38coming? Yeah, so that #55 1/2 is, is
- 11:42interesting. I mean, I, I'm leaning on the
- 11:45under in this game. I said I didn't, I didn't play
- 11:46it. But I mean, it's not, this just
- 11:48feels like it's going to be a little less fireworks than what
- 11:52you would expect. I think the tempo tempo's going
- 11:54to be a little slower than you would expect with this.
- 11:56I mean, at USC was, you know, earlier in the season, they were
- 11:59scoring quite a bit. I, I, that slowed down a little
- 12:01bit. So I, I really think you're
- 12:03going to see this game slower than expected.
- 12:06So I'm leaning under not playing it here, but that's what I think
- 12:09is going to happen. So what's my thoughts?
- 12:12And here we go with Dan. I believe we got to play on this
- 12:14one, don't we? Yeah, it's up to 6 1/2 and I
- 12:16laid it with USC, man, I I know they've got some people that
- 12:19have declared for the draft, especially at the wide receiver
- 12:21position, but you know what their QB Jade Mitvi is in Josh
- 12:26Hoover is not for TCU. And I don't know how they are
- 12:29going to score points without Hoover playing.
- 12:32So anything. 6 1/2, I mean, seven maybe I would avoid it a
- 12:37little, but if USC doesn't win this by double digits, I'll be
- 12:41stunned. Yeah, I got 1 unit USC laying
- 12:44the 6 1/2. I was thinking the same thing.
- 12:47How is CC going to score any stats on a backup?
- 12:51Has he? How much has he played this
- 12:53year? Anything or.
- 12:54Not a whole heck of a lot, but I mean you the thing.
- 12:57I mean, US CS, I mean, we bash Lincoln Riley, you know,
- 13:01especially if you've been following Notre Dame Twitter.
- 13:03Now he's blaming Notre Dame for backing out of the rivalry when
- 13:07he spent most of his college career backing out of any tough
- 13:09games that he's been faced with. But the one thing he does do is
- 13:14he gets talent to come and play for him.
- 13:17So who's ever missing for USCI expect just as high quality an
- 13:21athlete to fill in. I think the 6 1/2 is way low.
- 13:26It would not surprise me if if by kick off.
- 13:28What is this game tomorrow? Yeah, this is, I believe, late
- 13:30tomorrow. It wouldn't surprise me if this
- 13:33hits 7, but yeah, get it at 6 1/2 if you still can.
- 13:36Jump on it if you can. All right?
- 13:40We got the Reliquist Bowl Wednesday the 31st Tampa, FL.
- 13:44You got Vanderbilt -4 but over under a 49 1/2 against Iowa.
- 13:50At the time I printed this slide, there were no opt outs.
- 13:53I did not check this morning for corrections.
- 13:55I don't know if you've seen any, but Dan, we'll start with you.
- 13:59Yeah, look at real quick. I do see Vanderbilt's tight end
- 14:01Eli Stauer's is opting out. That's obviously going to be a
- 14:05big blow. After.
- 14:06Vanderbilt's offense, but I'm looking at this spread now.
- 14:10I was getting five and a half. Oh, you do have it in there.
- 14:14Sorry. I would lean Iowa here, man.
- 14:17I mean, no matter what they're, you know, they always say
- 14:20defense travels. So 5 1/2.
- 14:24I mean, it's not really anywhere near a key number.
- 14:26I I I would take Iowa here. Peter, another Big 10 here.
- 14:30What you got? Yeah, like that we know.
- 14:32We know that I like Iowa, so in this position against Vandy,
- 14:36makes a lot of sense to me. Totals 46 1/2.
- 14:38This is another one of those games that feels like a strong
- 14:41under to me. So I do have a play here.
- 14:43So I'm playing the under at 46 1/2 on this game.
- 14:46It just falls into, you know, for me, it's like a probability
- 14:51game like 70% under. I mean, that's just the the with
- 14:53the Iowa style defense does travel as Darren said.
- 14:57And I expect we're going to see a lot of defense here.
- 14:59So getting to that 46 1/2 is going to be challenging, I
- 15:03think. So I feel pretty confident in
- 15:05the under here. So one unit on the under of. 46
- 15:081/2 or me, the tight end out for Vanderbilt's going to be he's
- 15:11probably going to be one of the top tight ends in the draft.
- 15:13I mean, might actually be the first one maybe I only can't
- 15:16think of maybe the kid up there in Oregon.
- 15:20But yeah, he's one of the top tight ends.
- 15:22He's it's a big weapon for the Pavia Mafia.
- 15:26So and another breakfast bowl here we got the Tornado Tiger.
- 15:30So the Alamo Bowl, I believe this is or the Sun Bowl and it's
- 15:35called the Frosted Flakes bowl. It's you know who who doesn't
- 15:37love that? This Wednesday at 2:00 in Texas,
- 15:40we got Duke minus a point and 1/2.
- 15:42It has moved 2 -, 3 with over under a 51 1/2.
- 15:46It opened. It's now down to 49 1/2.
- 15:50Sam Levitt, I believe is in the portal, too many of the list for
- 15:56for the rest of the way. I got some of the key ones on
- 15:57there. Peter, we'll start with you with
- 16:00Arizona State and Duke. Yeah, I mean, with those opt
- 16:05outs and and the fact that this number is kind of declining
- 16:07would would speak to those opt outs.
- 16:09I mean, to me, I, I don't have a play here.
- 16:11It's just for for me, I mean, if I was going to do anything, I'd
- 16:13go under here. But with this many opt outs on
- 16:16both sides, it's it's just challenging to play this game.
- 16:20So I don't I I don't know what to do with it because I don't
- 16:22know who's going to be on the field at this point.
- 16:24But to me, I'd still lean under. But I'm I'm not playing anything
- 16:26here. It's just it's just too tough to
- 16:28play this. All right, Darren.
- 16:31I laid the three with Duke here. I am not a fan of the Blue
- 16:34Devils defense. I mean last year they were
- 16:36excellent under Manny Diaz. I don't know what the hell
- 16:38happened this year they they look terrible.
- 16:41Mensa is still slated to play here for Duke.
- 16:44No reason why he would not. You had mentioned some of the
- 16:47opt outs for Arizona State. I can't even fit the whole list
- 16:52of them on my screen. You mentioned Sam Levitt, he's
- 16:55gone. Their top receiver, Jordan
- 16:57Tyson, who's hurt and has declared for the NFL draft, one
- 17:00of their tight ends with 4T DS is out.
- 17:03There are two starting tackles who have played all 12 games out
- 17:07there. Center out, two defensive
- 17:10lineman out, two linebackers, 3 quarterbacks, 2 safeties all
- 17:14out. I, I mean, Duke's defense bad.
- 17:17I don't know what Arizona State's got left to to take
- 17:20advantage of that three. Looks almost like a late
- 17:25Christmas present. I mean, it's it's a little bit
- 17:27heavily juiced right now. I'm showing Duke -3 -, 112 on
- 17:34DraftKings. Yeah.
- 17:36I just don't know what Arizona State's got left to attack a
- 17:40Duke defense that really isn't that good.
- 17:43But again, quarterback play, give me Mensa over whoever the
- 17:46Hell's taking snaps for Arizona State.
- 17:48So I laid the three here with the Blue Devils.
- 17:52Yeah, I kind of agree there. Maybe even under Peter.
- 17:54What are you thinking? Yeah, I mean, maybe the under.
- 17:56I mean, I agree with Lando's points.
- 17:58I mean the the under, as I said, there's so many opt outs it's
- 18:00really hard to say. But I don't know what Arizona
- 18:02State's going to do in terms of scoring.
- 18:03So that screams under as well. So I mean, if anything, yeah,
- 18:07I'll play the points first. If anything else, play the but
- 18:11it's just it's just hard to tell.
- 18:14All right, Biff, Poggi and the boys.
- 18:16Michigan playing against Texas. This is Wednesday at 3 in
- 18:20Orlando, FL, Texas. The opening line of -4 1/2 moved
- 18:24to 7 1/2 I believe currently as of yesterday, over under went
- 18:27from 46 1/2 to 48 1/2. Edge rusher opted out.
- 18:34I have to ask, is it Derek Moore Any relation to the coach?
- 18:38Is that why he's opting out? Is that any?
- 18:40No relation there? No.
- 18:42We we have an edge rusher because I haven't seen one in
- 18:44weeks, but sure. So I just, you know, yeah, put
- 18:48it out there so well. Well, I think we'll let Darren
- 18:51go 1st and give you the floor for your boys after.
- 18:53That yeah, 'cause I, I looked at this game and I want no part of
- 18:58this game whatsoever. Initially I was leaning Texas,
- 19:03but I I missed out on the best number and they, you know, their
- 19:08top 2 running backs have hit the portal.
- 19:11Well, actually they're top three because I believe Jared Gibson,
- 19:14like he actually left the team like midway through the season.
- 19:16But John Ray Moore's in the portal, they got a couple
- 19:19defensive lineman who have opted out, a couple linebackers who
- 19:22opted out, like 4 secondary players have opted out and their
- 19:28defensive coordinator was fired. So that being said, I don't
- 19:33really know what the hell I'm going to get out of Michigan
- 19:35either. So I will watch this because I
- 19:39actually get off work at 3:00 on Wednesday, so it'll be a perfect
- 19:43Segway from work to watching this game as a fan because I
- 19:47have no financial interest in this at all.
- 19:52Peter, the floor is yours. Great.
- 19:54Yeah, I'm going to watch. I don't know.
- 19:58Yeah, I don't. I don't know what we're going to
- 20:00see. I think.
- 20:01I think the Michigan defense is going to just play pissed off.
- 20:04That's what I think is going to happen.
- 20:06After this whole thing about the team being embarrassed about all
- 20:09this nonsense, it is. It is a defense that has talent.
- 20:13And you know, they're kind of parting thing here.
- 20:15So I think they're going to play pissed off.
- 20:17I don't know what the offense is going to do.
- 20:19And I don't even care because with this number, I'm betting
- 20:22the under anyway here. And I don't care what Texas
- 20:24offense is going to do because I think Michigan's going to
- 20:26largely shut them down. I've been impressed with their
- 20:29offense. As I said many times before,
- 20:31when Texas plays a really good defense, especially a Big 10
- 20:35one, they get shut down. So I expect that will happen
- 20:37here. So this screams the under.
- 20:40I don't, I think Texas will probably win because Michigan is
- 20:42who knows, it's just completely dismantled at this point.
- 20:46But I do expect the Michigan's defense to show up.
- 20:49They better show up or I'm going to throw something through the
- 20:51TV. So from from that perspective, I
- 20:54expect the under should play pretty nice.
- 20:56But this is definitely not going to be a shootout.
- 20:58I don't see how this turns into a shootout in any way, shape or
- 21:02form. So to me, that 48 1/2 is what I
- 21:05got is a pretty high number for a game that's not going to be a
- 21:09shootout. There is literally no chance
- 21:11this is going to be a shootout. It's like that, you know, it
- 21:14might be a 10 game or something or 20, who knows, but not a
- 21:18shootout. So, and from that perspective, I
- 21:20feel pretty confident with the under.
- 21:22I do not feel confident in my team.
- 21:25So those are my thoughts. Any chance Winningham keeps Biff
- 21:29Poggi on the staff if. He's smart, he will.
- 21:32He might. I mean, he might.
- 21:35I mean, everyone was the guy. He's held the team together.
- 21:37If they go on there, play. Play well for Biff.
- 21:41I want to get Michigan so bad, but I mean, I really hope they
- 21:44win this game. So and we have all Michigan
- 21:49Texas under 48 1/2 as the the official pick.
- 21:52You put that in right, Pete? Yes, Sir, under.
- 21:55OK, here's again we referenced earlier, we got Wednesday 330
- 22:00Las Vegas, NV, Utah opened up at -13 1/2 is went to 16 1/2 then
- 22:06back down to 14 1/2. The over under opened at 50 1/2.
- 22:11You know, Ryola's still out. Obviously running back is out.
- 22:15That's all they need to be out for.
- 22:18For Nebraska, I had on here at Kyle Winnieham's last game, its
- 22:22head coach last game as head coach for Utah, not his last
- 22:25game as head coach. So we have that going on.
- 22:28So I guess we'll start with Peter this time.
- 22:32Where are you coming down on this game here to Las Vegas
- 22:33Bowl? Well, yeah, new head coach,
- 22:36great to great to see him. I'd like to see him win and get
- 22:38get out on a win, which I think they'll want to go out and win.
- 22:41I think the whole team, a lot of the team anyway, there's only
- 22:44two. I mean, he's he built this
- 22:46program. I mean, I'd love to see him win.
- 22:49I'm sure his players going to rally around the guy and play
- 22:51well for him. I have little doubt of that.
- 22:53So I fully expect that Utah will win this game, probably pretty
- 22:57handily would be my thought. Obviously, I'd play totals here.
- 23:01You know, 50 1/2 is what I was looking at.
- 23:03I don't know what to do with that.
- 23:04So I don't know what Nebraska's going to do.
- 23:06I probably would have been leaning under, but I'm I'm, I'm
- 23:10not playing it. But I do think, you know, if I
- 23:11was going to do anything here, I would probably lay the points
- 23:14for Utah. That's a pretty big number, but
- 23:16I'd still probably lay those points.
- 23:17But that's my thoughts. Darren.
- 23:21Yeah, I don't. Is Whittingham actually coaching
- 23:24this game? I mean, he had the press
- 23:25conference yesterday or the other day.
- 23:27Is he actually coaching this? Game.
- 23:30I don't, I don't think so. I think, I actually think he's
- 23:33going to be at the Michigan game.
- 23:35OK, yeah, that's what I thought. I I thought I had read somewhere
- 23:38that he, yeah, Kyle Whittingham won't coach Utah in the bowl
- 23:43game. So.
- 23:44All right, so that makes sense because I got something here
- 23:46that says the defensive coordinator has taken over as
- 23:50the full time head coach, which apparently if you've been
- 23:52following Utah, this has been planned for like two or three
- 23:54years. They were just waiting for
- 23:56Whittingham to get out of the way.
- 23:57So he is not going to be coaching this game.
- 24:01But like Pete had said, I would lay these boys on a minute.
- 24:05Nebraska is a train wreck, man. I mean.
- 24:10What about the under? I mean, I think Nebraska's going
- 24:14to score much the. Problem is, Utah could
- 24:16potentially get 48 on their own, which means Nebraska just needs
- 24:19to kick a field goal. That's.
- 24:22The issue I, I don't know what in the, I mean, look at it in
- 24:25the, I mean, you'd mentioned Rayola's gone.
- 24:28You know, their defense coordinator fired their backup
- 24:31quarterback Latif he's injured. Emmett Johnson opt out for the
- 24:35draft. That guard they got from Notre
- 24:38Dame, he opted out. He started all 12 games for
- 24:41Nebraska. I mean, they're missing a ton of
- 24:44key pieces on the offensive side of the ball.
- 24:47If you're leaning the over here, you better hope Utah does most
- 24:50of the heavy lifting. I think like DraftKings has 14,
- 24:55but I'm sure there's 13 and a halfs out there.
- 24:58I didn't bet this because I I had three already here.
- 25:02I don't like to go too crazy during bowl season, but if for
- 25:05some reason I felt like a fourth game, this would be it.
- 25:09Especially if I could find a 13 1/2 somewhere.
- 25:12Right, we're going to move on. Here we go.
- 25:17Oh, Tim, you can go last year because we know you got
- 25:20something to say about your two favorite team.
- 25:24So, all right, Arlington, TX, I believe this is in the the
- 25:28Cotton Bowl, I believe open line Ohio State -9 1/2 over under 42
- 25:32and a half. Darren, kick us off here.
- 25:35Where you going? I'm just going to say, as much
- 25:38as I want to bet Ohio State, I think that's too many points.
- 25:43I mean, last time we saw a state, they I, they had a couple
- 25:46drives where they moved the ball against Indiana and Granite.
- 25:49Indiana has an excellent defense, but so does Miami.
- 25:52But you have two good drives like that and that Big 10
- 25:54champion team and you come away with 0 points.
- 25:56I mean, Miami's defense is capable of doing the same thing
- 25:59to Julian saying and that offense.
- 26:01That being said, Ohio State's defense is anything to sneeze at
- 26:05either. And we all know Carson Beck is
- 26:08more than capable of handing this game to the Buckeyes
- 26:13without too much trouble. So if anything, I kind of lean
- 26:19the under here because both these defenses are really,
- 26:21really good. But because I expect an under, I
- 26:25would probably take the points just, you know, doing some math.
- 26:30I just think that's too many points.
- 26:33But I'm not betting it because I hate Miami.
- 26:35But if I had to take a play, I would take those points,
- 26:39especially if you can find a 10 between now and then.
- 26:42But I'd I'd be all right with the 9 1/2.
- 26:45Peter, what an interesting game. So there is a team I hate far
- 26:51more than Miami, which is that other team on the spot so.
- 26:55I make a bowl game for us like the two teams that we hate the
- 26:59most so. I would love to see Miami pound
- 27:02the crap out of the Buckeyes in this game.
- 27:04I would be thrilled to see that happen.
- 27:07I I'm sorry Tim, but I would be naked running around the living
- 27:11room if that were happening 'cause that would make me very,
- 27:13very happy. Don't you do that normally?
- 27:15I mean, isn't, no, I normally do that.
- 27:16But, you know, I mean, that's like a, that's a, that's a
- 27:19Wednesday ritual, isn't it? Anyway, yeah, everything if you
- 27:25look every everything you just said there and you read
- 27:27everything on paper, you look at everybody's get picks out there,
- 27:31under, under, under, under, right, defense, both sides, slow
- 27:35game, all that, right? I am going completely contrary
- 27:39to that, right. I am betting the over in this
- 27:42game of 42 1/2. I think we're going to get
- 27:44something. Well, I got 41 1/2, but I was
- 27:47reading off your slide there. So 41 1/2 and the over is the
- 27:49actual number that I got. I think.
- 27:52I think this is going to go a little contrary to what we would
- 27:54normally see in a game like this with the defenses that does
- 27:57happen occasionally with games when you have two good defenses
- 28:00like this. I I think we're going to see
- 28:02that. I think you're going to see the
- 28:04playbooks open up a little bit. I think they're going to have
- 28:06to, especially in the second-half.
- 28:09Yeah, I cannot wait to watch this game.
- 28:12As long as the Buckeyes aren't pounding Miami, because at that
- 28:15point I will turn it off. But as long as that's not
- 28:18happening, I'm really excited for this game.
- 28:19But I do think you're going to see more points scored than you
- 28:22would normally think would be based on what's on paper here.
- 28:26And so I am going one unit on the over 41 1/2 and sorry but
- 28:32cocaines. Well, to paraphrase what you
- 28:36said, I would love to see Ohio State beat the living crap out
- 28:40of Miami. So I apologize to all of my
- 28:45Michigan friends. You know, Ohio State is in the
- 28:49top five teams I don't like, but Miami is cemented at #1 So I, I
- 28:55would say, you know, Miami, FL, Clemson, Notre Dame, Ohio State.
- 29:00So there's like my, my top five. But yeah, I mean, I'm almost
- 29:06tempted to just bet Miami money line to totally jinx it since my
- 29:09picks have been totally ass all year and this year really cannot
- 29:14end quickly enough from my bankroll.
- 29:17But yeah, I'm, I'm in the opposite.
- 29:20I would you know, I will be running around naked in in my
- 29:22living room if Ohio State is beating the crap out of Miami.
- 29:27I also agree with with on the yeah, I I I still like the under
- 29:33here. I think both defenses are pretty
- 29:34good. We're very good.
- 29:37But yeah, I just it's going to ruin my New Year's, even if my
- 29:41wife's making our lucky crab rangoons for the game.
- 29:44So for pulling out all the stops here, all the science, I may bet
- 29:48money line Miami just to throw the jinx a little bit more, but
- 29:52I really want someone to beat Miami and end their season, the
- 29:56sooner the better. Any final thoughts from you guys
- 29:59you know in? Conclusion One of us will be
- 30:01naked during this game. Yes.
- 30:05So hopefully it's me. I apologize to the neighbors.
- 30:10As soon as this game kicks off, I'm blocking both of you for the
- 30:13next 4. Hours.
- 30:17All right, the other playoff game, Oregon and Texas Tech,
- 30:20it's going to be at noon in Miami.
- 30:22We got Texas Tech -1 1/2. It moved to 2 1/2, but over
- 30:27under a 52 1/2. All right, Darren, you want to
- 30:31go first? Yeah.
- 30:32I mean, now I'm looking. Oregon is favored laying 2 1/2
- 30:36here. 51 1/2 now is the total at DraftKings as we're sitting
- 30:40here. Initially, I would like going
- 30:44into this whole bracket thing before any of these first round
- 30:47games were played. I would have been all over
- 30:49Oregon here, but I was not impressed with what I saw
- 30:53defensively in that second-half a game.
- 30:55James Madison, I mean, I know you had that game in hand, but
- 30:59you gave up a 99 yard drive in the fourth quarter there.
- 31:04That and Texas Tech's defense is no joke.
- 31:07I mean, I get it. They play in the Big 12, but it
- 31:12I, I couldn't do it. I, I couldn't bet Oregon here
- 31:16just because that fourth quarter scared the hell out of me.
- 31:19And I mean Texas Tech, they went all in, man.
- 31:22They spent a crap ton of money. They made all the right
- 31:25purchases. It's paying off for them.
- 31:27If they win this, it would not surprise me one bit.
- 31:32I like Oregon, but I can't bet this game, man.
- 31:36I I passed on it all together, but yeah, just the the slightest
- 31:43of leans to Oregon, but not not confident enough to to put any
- 31:48money down here. All right.
- 31:52Well, full transparency, I really want to bet the over on
- 31:56this game. Every time I see Oregon, I'm
- 31:57thinking Oregon equals over. I look at the offenses, I look,
- 32:01you know everything. And because I'm so convinced
- 32:05that the over is going to hit, I'm betting the under.
- 32:08So I have a bet here of one year of under.
- 32:11I believe it's 50. Let me pull this up here, 52
- 32:151/2. Like I said this this year's
- 32:19been every time I'm so sure of a pick, it always comes in the
- 32:22opposite. So I every time I bet the over,
- 32:25I'm sitting and watching Dr. stall field goals get clanked
- 32:29off the side coaches like, you know, messing up calling bubble
- 32:34screens on 3rd and 13. So they deserve all the
- 32:37punishment they get for this. So I'm going against my
- 32:40instincts. You know, Oregon's efficiency
- 32:44meets Texas Tech's defense. The drive's going to get longer.
- 32:48The the clock's going to keep moving.
- 32:50And usually what would normally happen is my overbed is dead by
- 32:55halftime. So I'm bending under, not
- 32:58because I don't like points, but because I know myself.
- 33:01So if the over decides to hit, you're welcome.
- 33:05I took the bullet so you don't have to, Pete.
- 33:07Any thoughts on this game? Yeah, you just did what I did in
- 33:11the last game, right? You went Contra to your what
- 33:14everything would say to you is probably the right play.
- 33:18Every ounce of my being screams over in this game.
- 33:22I so wanted to play the over. I mean every I mean just
- 33:25everything feels like this is an over all day long, which is why
- 33:29I'm not playing it because it's probably wrong.
- 33:31I it's just it it because it feels so clearly to be an over
- 33:35to me. That's when I get myself in
- 33:37trouble when I bet these that's why I didn't bet.
- 33:40So I like your bet because that is probably that's generally
- 33:43what happens. If I feel that strongly
- 33:45something's an over, it probably is not going to be There's
- 33:47something that's going to happen.
- 33:49I like this. This score makes sense.
- 33:51I would I just think it's going to be the opposite.
- 33:53I do think Oregon's going to win this game.
- 33:55I could see 2824 the other way for sure.
- 33:57I could see that this type of score make a lot of sense.
- 34:00I do think Oregon's going to win this game though, and I like
- 34:02that team. Although Texas Tech is really
- 34:04good too. So this is like NFL White.
- 34:06This is going to be a really good game.
- 34:08I mean, I, I look forward to watching this game, this team,
- 34:10these teams. Will be the most fun of the of
- 34:12the quarterfinal games. Yeah, these are these are two
- 34:15good teams. So I'm I'm looking forward to
- 34:16watching this game. So be interesting to keep our
- 34:20eyes on. So now we're going to move on to
- 34:22this will be a very interesting game as well.
- 34:24Indiana and Alabama on the 1st at 4:00.
- 34:28Opening line is Indiana -7 with a over under of 48 1/2 - 6 1/2 I
- 34:35saw on Hard Rock Bet and FanDuel.
- 34:38So if you have those and you can get the extra half point there,
- 34:40go ahead and grab it. Peter, we'll start with you with
- 34:43this game. What are you thinking now?
- 34:46You know what? Usually just bet totals.
- 34:47I didn't bet anything here, just to be clear, but lay those
- 34:51points. Take Indiana.
- 34:54I mean, as far as I'm concerned, Bama didn't belong here in the
- 34:561st place. They're going to get exposed by
- 34:59a superior team here. Indiana is going to throttle
- 35:02them. They're going to beat them
- 35:04double digits all day long here. Not a Question of the World II
- 35:09is a far better team. So that's that.
- 35:11I mean, I think that I I might bet that even though I don't
- 35:14usually weigh points in that like that.
- 35:16But yeah, that to me is a that's a low number.
- 35:18I love playing 7 here all all day long.
- 35:21So that's direction I would go. Heck, I may bet that when we're
- 35:24done here today. So that's my thoughts, Darren.
- 35:28I have nothing to add. I agree with everything Pete
- 35:30said. It's up to 7 1/2 at FanDuel and
- 35:32I wouldn't surprise me if it hits 8 or 8 1/2 by kickoff.
- 35:36I love Indiana here also. Went back up again.
- 35:40Yeah, it's it's well, there's you're going to see that there's
- 35:43going to be a reason for that because Alabama still has no run
- 35:45game. You know, and I agree with Pete.
- 35:48I mean, we talked about how good Oklahoma's defense was and yeah,
- 35:51that, I mean, they're a decent defense, but I mean, you know,
- 35:56Mater throws the pick 6. I don't see Mendoza doing that
- 36:00here. I think everything he said is
- 36:03right. I think Alabama's gonna get
- 36:06brutally disposed of here. I mean, Indiana's legit, man.
- 36:10I mean, they look great no matter who they're playing as.
- 36:14A team that went into Oregon and beat them, what, 30 to 20 or
- 36:17whatever it was? And now you're giving Kurt
- 36:20Signetti extra time to prepare for this.
- 36:24Yeah, this is. I would I would love to see
- 36:26Indiana or Texas Tech win this thing.
- 36:29The whole Indiana would be lovely.
- 36:31I don't think Texas Tech is, but I think you got a shot with
- 36:33Indiana. They are.
- 36:35Enough money, that's for damn sure.
- 36:36That's no well, oh, here we go. Thursday, 8:00 New Orleans in
- 36:44the Sugar Bowl opening line. Georgia -6 1/2, but over under
- 36:4855 1/2, who wants to go first? Darren, do you want to go first?
- 36:53I did lay the 6 1/2 with Georgia and and Tim, please don't jinx
- 36:58me on this because I know you're you're in agreement here.
- 37:02But yeah, I mean, I remember, I mean, we were all sitting at
- 37:05some restaurant in, in Florida when these two teams played
- 37:09last. And Ole Miss had a nice little
- 37:11lead going in the fourth quarter.
- 37:13And then Georgia put the freaking beat out on that.
- 37:17And Georgia wasn't even playing that well.
- 37:20Georgia is now playing much better football than they were
- 37:23during this game. The first time I think Ole Miss
- 37:26is going to get is, I want to say, exposed.
- 37:30I still think they're a good team here.
- 37:31But I did the bet because I still was getting the 6 1/2
- 37:35here. 7, I may be like, OK, stay away.
- 37:39But Georgia's defense is coming around.
- 37:42Yeah, I laid the 6 1/2. All right, well, I'll go ahead
- 37:47and get my bed here. I also laid the 6 1/2 here.
- 37:52I'm going to lay it with the dogs.
- 37:53I'm also going to under 55 1/2. You know, Mississippi, they rely
- 37:58on the big play. They go for it on 4th down an
- 38:00awful lot. Georgia is built for this kind
- 38:03of matchup, I believe. They're physical.
- 38:06They limit the explosive plays. You know, the total is 55 1/2.
- 38:12Would suggest to track me. I think it's going to go the
- 38:14other way. Big time possessions games, the
- 38:19game tightens up the longer drives, fewer freebies.
- 38:23And if Georgia gets the lead, you know, Kirby smarts a good
- 38:26coach. He's not going to do to hurry
- 38:27up. He's he gets a two or three
- 38:29score lead, he's going to sit there and he's going to run the
- 38:31ball and work the clock. So I like Georgia minus the 6
- 38:341/2 and I like the under a 55 1/2 Peter.
- 38:41Don't have a bet, but I love both both of these I mean, I
- 38:44would I agree Georgia is going to win this game.
- 38:46They're they're made for these games.
- 38:49I mean this team just plays well in these games.
- 38:51The only time they lose these games is when they run across
- 38:54A-Team that's just better than them and there aren't many teams
- 38:57better than them in these games. So I, you know, I, I truly think
- 38:59they're going to win. So I love playing the points.
- 39:01I agree with the honder. I think this defense is going to
- 39:04be raring to go. I think they're going to hold
- 39:05hold this down and I think you're going to see a score
- 39:08maybe even less than this for Ole Miss.
- 39:10We'll see. But yeah, this, these, both of
- 39:13these make perfect sense to me, so love it.
- 39:16And the other thing I think that, you know, that I thought
- 39:18about this was, you know, this Georgia team was in the playoff
- 39:21last year. So they do have that experience
- 39:23or Ole Miss has not. And you go back to, you know,
- 39:272023 Michigan, we're 2022 Michigan, I believe got spanked.
- 39:31Well, I think it's spanked, but they played terrible against
- 39:33TCU. McCarthy didn't look like he
- 39:35knew what he was doing, but he had that big game experience.
- 39:38He comes back the following year.
- 39:39They beat Bam in the Rose Bowl. They go on to win the national
- 39:42championship. So I think there is something to
- 39:44be said for teams that have actually participated in last
- 39:47year's twelve team playoff as well.
- 39:49So again, that experience there leads me to to bet Georgia.
- 39:53Here. OK, well, that's going to wrap
- 39:57it up for now. We'll be back again later on.
- 39:59We have some four or five games after the playoff here.
- 40:03So let's wrap this up, Pete, what you got this week?
- 40:07Try to stay positive in our bowls here.
- 40:08So Iowa, Iowa Bandy under 46 1/2, Michigan and Texas under 48
- 40:151/2, and Miami and Ohio State Bill Kings over 441 1/2.
- 40:22All right, and I am continuing to be horrible.
- 40:24We have Oregon, Texas Tech under 52 1/2, Georgia -6 1/2, and I
- 40:31also have Georgia old miss. I have the under 55 1/2 this
- 40:36year. Cannot get over quickly enough.
- 40:37Thank God for the Rams who currently are getting their
- 40:40asses kicked 21 nothing, but they've been keeping me a float
- 40:42sort of. Darren, what you got this week?
- 40:45Yeah, I should have just not picked any game for the rest of
- 40:49the season and just sad on my record because it's probably
- 40:53going to come crashing down at some point.
- 40:55But I actually do kind of like these three, which means I
- 40:58probably have a one and two week incoming here.
- 41:00But yeah, I went USC laying the 6 1/2 over TCU, laid the three
- 41:04with Duke over Arizona State, and went with you, Tim, laying
- 41:08the 6 1/2 in Georgia over Ole Miss.
- 41:11I'll apologize to you now. Sorry for jinxing.
- 41:13That that's all right, man. I don't blame you.
- 41:16All right, everybody that's going to wrap, wrap it up for
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