Latest / Reformed Thinking / Infinite Justice and Infinite Mercy at the Cross | John Owen
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- 0:01When you think about a courtroom, the visual is, you
- 0:03know, incredibly rigid. Oh, absolutely.
- 0:05You picture the heavy wooden bench, the scales of justice on
- 0:09the wall. Right.
- 0:09The gavel sitting there though law operates on this very strict
- 0:13binary. You break the law, a penalty
- 0:15follows. But if you walk across the
- 0:18street to a commercial bank and sit down with a loan officer, a
- 0:22completely different set of rules applies.
- 0:24Yeah, it really does. If the bank executives decide to
- 0:26be generous, they can just, you know, write off a massive debt.
- 0:30Just a few keystrokes and they clear Ledger.
- 0:33You owe nothing. Well, welcome to a deep dive on
- 0:36Reformed thinking. Today we are looking at how God
- 0:39deals with human sin. Specifically through the lens of
- 0:42John Owen's 1653 work A Dissertation on Divine Justice.
- 0:47Right, because Owen argues that treating God like that lenient
- 0:50banker, it completely destroys the entire framework of the
- 0:54Christian gospel. Yeah, we are unpacking Owen's
- 0:57systematic reputation of Faustus a sinus.
- 0:59We are going straight into the mechanics of divine justice, the
- 1:02necessity of the atonement, and, well, whether God can forgive
- 1:06sin without a blood payment. So the core question for you
- 1:09listening is this. Can God just forgive your sins
- 1:13with a wave of His hand, or does His very nature demand justice?
- 1:17And, you know, this isn't just some dusty academic debate.
- 1:21Owen is responding to a massive theological shift initiated by
- 1:25isosinus in the late 16th and early 17th centuries.
- 1:28Right, because so Cena's basically built his whole
- 1:30theological system on the premise that God is a cosmic
- 1:33creditor. Yeah, a creditor who can dismiss
- 1:35debts on a whim. The stakes here are
- 1:37astronomical. We are looking at a clash of,
- 1:40well, basic paradigms regarding who God actually is.
- 1:43Right. Can the creator just waive the
- 1:44penalty for rebellion? Or does his his ontological
- 1:49reality demand that justice be satisfied?
- 1:51How you answer that dictates your entire view of the cross,
- 1:54the nature of sin, and the mechanics of justification.
- 1:57So let's start with Sassini as his first big argument, because
- 1:59honestly, he establishes A premise that appeals heavily to
- 2:02basic human logic. He really does.
- 2:04He asserts that God is essentially A creditor and our
- 2:07sins are just debts we have contracted with Him.
- 2:10And because God possesses absolute dominion over all
- 2:13things, Sassinus argues, he has the right to, you know, yield up
- 2:17his right. Right, meaning the Supreme Lord
- 2:20of the universe can forgive a debt without receiving any
- 2:22tangible satisfaction or payment.
- 2:25I mean, I can see the immediate appeal of that argument.
- 2:27If a friend borrows $20 from me and then loses his job, I can
- 2:31look at him and say don't worry about the money.
- 2:33Yeah, you just say we are good. You waive your right to collect.
- 2:37Right. And a critic of Owen would look
- 2:39at that human interaction and ask, well, why can't the creator
- 2:42of the universe exhibit that same grace?
- 2:45Why bind God to rules he created?
- 2:47Well, so Sinus relies on this old Latin legal concept
- 2:50regarding a private individual's right over their own property.
- 2:53He frames God as a persona prevata.
- 2:56A private person? Yes.
- 2:57A. Private person who has been
- 2:58personally wronged in civil law. A private individual can choose
- 3:03not to prosecute someone who owes them money.
- 3:05Because they are the sole owners of the debt, so they can cancel
- 3:08it. Exactly.
- 3:09Well, spot on. So Sinus maps this civil
- 3:12transaction onto God. He concludes that since God is
- 3:15praised in Scripture for His goodness and liberality, He is
- 3:19perfectly free to pardon sins without demanding any
- 3:21satisfaction. So how does Owen handle that?
- 3:24Because it sounds so reasonable to our modern ears.
- 3:27Owen anticipates that line of human reasoning and attacks the
- 3:31structural integrity of the premise itself.
- 3:34He identifies this assumption as a false hypothesis.
- 3:37So so Sinus takes for granted the very thing he needs to
- 3:40prove, yes. Owen points out that God is not
- 3:43functioning in the capacity of a private financial creditor
- 3:46dealing with a personal slight. God is the Rector University.
- 3:49The moral governor and judge of the entire universe, right?
- 3:52That distinction changes the whole legal category.
- 3:55It reminds me of a king. A sovereign king might act as a
- 3:58private landlord for a small plot of land he owns personally.
- 4:01Right. And if a tenant cannot pay the
- 4:03rent there, the king can forgive that debt as a private citizen.
- 4:06Yeah, but when that same king sits on the throne, is the
- 4:09supreme magistrate of the realm dealing with a citizen who has
- 4:12committed treason, the gagory shifts.
- 4:14It absolutely shifts. The king cannot simply forgive
- 4:18treason because he feels generous that day.
- 4:20Because doing so would subvert the law itself.
- 4:24It would plunge the Kingdom into anarchy.
- 4:26That analogy captures Owens counter argument perfectly.
- 4:29A judge in a courtroom cannot waive a sentence for a violent
- 4:32crime just because he happens to be in a good mood.
- 4:35If he does, he ceases to be a just judge.
- 4:38He becomes corrupt. Right.
- 4:39And Owen notes that so Sinus tries desperately to remove this
- 4:42concept of God as the moral governor because it threatens
- 4:45his whole system. Right, Owen actually writes that
- 4:48if this initial supposition falls, this idea of God as a
- 4:51mere private creditor, so sinus entire argument will instantly
- 4:55collapse. Yeah, Owen labels so Sinus's
- 4:58argument a Babylonish tower. Calling it a Babylonish tower is
- 5:01such a sharp critique. It suggests a scientist had
- 5:03built this huge edifice based entirely on human reasoning in
- 5:07civic categories. Reaching for the heavens, but
- 5:09completely unstable at the base. So if God's justice isn't a
- 5:13simple financial transaction, so Sinus has to redefine what
- 5:16justice actually is. He can't just leave a vacuum in
- 5:19his theology. Right, so he shifts his attack
- 5:22to the very nature of God's internal character.
- 5:25So Sinus claims that justice is not inherent in God at all.
- 5:29Wait, not inherent. Yeah, so Sinus introduces A
- 5:32philosophical snare based on volunteerism.
- 5:35He argues that justice is not a permanent, essential attribute
- 5:39of God's nature, but rather an effect of his free will.
- 5:42Oh wow, so to so Sinus. God acts justly when he chooses
- 5:46to, but he is not bound by justice as an unchangeable
- 5:50characteristic. Spot on.
- 5:51But that introduces a massive metaphysical problem.
- 5:55If so, Sinus claims justice is an effect of the will.
- 5:58He is basically saying God could choose to be unjust tomorrow and
- 6:01it wouldn't violate his nature. Yeah, and so Sinus uses a very
- 6:04specific logical syllogism to force this point.
- 6:07He argues that if justice were naturally inherent in God, God
- 6:10could never pardon even the smallest transgression to
- 6:13anyone. OK, let me follow that logic.
- 6:15The logic dictates that God never does anything opposite to
- 6:17the qualities inherent in Him. Therefore, if strict justice is
- 6:20an inherent quality, pardon becomes an absolute
- 6:23impossibility. I have to admit, the logic of
- 6:26that syllogism tracks perfectly on the surface.
- 6:29Let me frame it up. If a substance is inherently
- 6:32wet, it cannot choose to be dry, right?
- 6:35If a star is inherently luminous, it cannot choose to
- 6:38emit darkness. So if God is inherently and
- 6:41strictly just, meaning his very nature compels him to punish
- 6:45every single infraction of His law, how does any human being
- 6:49escape condemnation? That is the big question.
- 6:51If God is inherently just, no one gets pardoned.
- 6:55It sounds like Sisena's backed owing into a corner.
- 6:57He presents this as an inescapable absurdity that
- 7:00destroys the concept of inherent divine justice.
- 7:03But Owen reads this argument and executes a brilliant
- 7:06philosophical counter maneuver. What does he do?
- 7:08Owen agrees with the premise. Entire break, really.
- 7:11Yes, he embraces the reality that God's inherent justice
- 7:14absolutely prohibits him from letting sin slide.
- 7:17Owen explicitly writes that God cannot pass the smallest sin
- 7:20unpunished because he can do nothing opposite to the
- 7:23qualities inherent in him. But hold on.
- 7:25If Owen agrees that God cannot pass the smallest sin
- 7:28unpunished, he has to have a mechanism to avoid the
- 7:32conclusion that all humanity is eternally condemned.
- 7:35Right, he has to explain how a strictly just God justifies the
- 7:40ungodly. How does he do it?
- 7:42Owen relies on the covenantal framework of the surety, OK.
- 7:45The surety. Yeah, a surety is a federal head
- 7:48who assumes the legal and moral obligations of a specific
- 7:51people. Owen explains that God does not
- 7:53pardon sin by ignoring it or waving it away like a casual
- 7:57creditor. So he pardons believers because
- 8:00justice was comprehensively satisfied by the mediator, by
- 8:04Christ. Yes, Owen maintains the
- 8:06integrity of God's nature. The strict judge doesn't become
- 8:09a corrupt rule bending magistrate.
- 8:11The penalty is poured out completely.
- 8:13God does not bypass his justice. He fully meets it.
- 8:15Right. Owen articulates that God
- 8:17neither actually pardons any sin without a satisfaction made, nor
- 8:20can he pardon it without an infringement of his justice.
- 8:23So pardoning the sins of believers on account of the
- 8:25satisfaction of Christ doesn't contradict his justice, it
- 8:29fulfills it. Absolutely.
- 8:30God's inherent nature is perfectly preserved.
- 8:33I imagine so. Sinus didn't just accept that.
- 8:35No. So Sinus anticipates this
- 8:37defense and tries to dismantle the vocabulary itself.
- 8:41He makes the rather bold claim that theologians invented the
- 8:44idea of inherent justice to give God's arbitrary actions a
- 8:47respectable title. He literally thinks we just made
- 8:50the word up to make God sound good.
- 8:52Yeah, he argues, the term justice is a human invention
- 8:55applied retroactively. But Owen points right back to
- 8:58the Hebrew text of Scripture. Right words like mishpat and
- 9:01siddek. Exactly.
- 9:02Well, yes. Owen states that we did not
- 9:05invent this category to give God's work a worthy name.
- 9:08The judge of all the earth gives this testimony in the sacred
- 9:11records in innumerable places. I think Owen quotes Psalm 9
- 9:14right. He does.
- 9:15He quotes Psalm 9 verse 4 stating God sitteth in the
- 9:18throne, judging righteously. Divine justice is divine
- 9:22revelation, not a scholastic construct.
- 9:25OK, so having failed to redefine God as a private creditor and
- 9:29feeling to prove that inherent justice is a fabricated
- 9:31category, so sinus pivots again. He is relentless.
- 9:35He tries to disentangle God's internal attributes from his
- 9:38external actions by attacking the specific vocabulary the
- 9:42Bible uses regarding God's anger.
- 9:44Right. So Sinus leans into the argument
- 9:46from opposites. He notes that Scripture often
- 9:49describes the punishment of sin using words like severity and
- 9:52vengeance. OK.
- 9:53He then argues that severity and vengeance are diametrically
- 9:56opposed to mercy. To Sinus, punishing sin and
- 10:00pardoning sin cancel each other out.
- 10:02Meaning, if God is perfectly merciful, he cannot
- 10:06simultaneously be perfectly severe toward the same person.
- 10:10Right. I want to push back on Owen's
- 10:12behalf here, but let's first validate the tensions the sinus
- 10:15points out. Vengeance and mercy do appear as
- 10:18opposite trajectories. They do.
- 10:19You cannot execute extreme severity and immense mercy
- 10:22toward the identical object at the exact same moment.
- 10:25It resembles trying to drive a vehicle forward and backward
- 10:28simultaneously. That is a great way to put it.
- 10:30But Owen resolves this apparent contradiction by introducing the
- 10:33scholastic distinction between a habitus and an actus.
- 10:36An internal habit and an external effect.
- 10:39Yes. So sinus is confounding an
- 10:42essential perfection of God with the external execution of that
- 10:45perfection in time and space. We need to break down those
- 10:48philosophical categories for the listener.
- 10:50Yeah. How does Owen differentiate
- 10:52between the internal reality of God and what happens in human
- 10:56history? So in the framework of classical
- 10:58theism and divine simplicity, a habit refers to the internal
- 11:03characteristic or the uncompounded essence of God.
- 11:06It is who He is eternally. OK.
- 11:08And the Actus. An effect or an act is the
- 11:11external manifestation of that characteristic terminating on a
- 11:14creature. Let me frame that with an
- 11:16analogy. Think of the difference between
- 11:18potential energy and kinetic energy.
- 11:20Oh, I like that. The potential energy is the
- 11:22inherent state of the object, while the kinetic energy is the
- 11:25external effect we witness when that object interacts with its
- 11:29environment. That hits the mark perfectly.
- 11:31Owen argues that severity and anger are not the attribute of
- 11:34justice itself, they're just the external effects of it.
- 11:37So the internal habit, the attribute itself, is justice,
- 11:40which Scripture also identifies as absolute purity and holiness.
- 11:44That reframes the entire debate. Severity is not a core
- 11:48personality trait of God, it is the external reaction of His
- 11:52infinite purity when it comes into contact with human
- 11:55rebellion. Yes, and because of this precise
- 11:58distinction, Owen argues that punishing and pardoning are not
- 12:01actually opposed to one another. They don't cancel each other out
- 12:04because they operate through the mediator.
- 12:06Spot on. So the internal purity of God
- 12:10demands the punishment of sin, which manifests as the effect of
- 12:14sederity poured out on Christ at Calvary.
- 12:16Yes, and because that justice is completely satisfied, that
- 12:20identical internal purity now enacts the effect of pardoning
- 12:24the believer. It is the same righteous
- 12:26principle operating in perfect harmony.
- 12:28Owen quotes the Apostle Paul here, calling this the
- 12:30foolishness of God, which is wiser than men.
- 12:33Furthermore, Owen points out that Sicinus's view leads to a
- 12:36catastrophic logical conclusion. No conclusion is that.
- 12:39Well, Sicinus claims that if justice dictates God must punish
- 12:42sin, then he could not even spare those who repent.
- 12:44But Owen counters that all true repentance is founded entirely
- 12:48upon the satisfaction and blood of Christ.
- 12:51God spares the penitence specifically because
- 12:53satisfaction has already been secure.
- 12:55That makes total sense. So Societus realizes his
- 12:59philosophical categories are being dismantled, and he turns
- 13:02to the concept of limits. Yeah, he cites Exodus 34, verse
- 13:056, where God is described as merciful and gracious,
- 13:08long-suffering. And he uses this text to claim
- 13:12that mercy and justice are unequal, limited effects of
- 13:15God's will. Right, so Sinus argues that
- 13:18because God is slow to anger but abundant in goodness, it proves
- 13:21these are just arbitrary effects and one surpasses the other in
- 13:23greatness. So, he claims, you cannot call
- 13:26both justice and mercy infinite. Because if you have two infinite
- 13:30things that appear as opposites, they cannot coexist.
- 13:33It sounds like the classic philosophical puzzle.
- 13:35If an unstoppable force meets an immovable object, the system
- 13:38breaks. Yeah, so Sinus assumes you
- 13:40cannot have infinite punishment and infinite pardon occupying
- 13:43the same reality without compromising one or the other.
- 13:46So he concludes that calling justice infinite contradicts the
- 13:49biblical text stating God is slow to anger.
- 13:52Right. Therefore, neither justice nor
- 13:54mercy are inherent infinite properties.
- 13:57They are temporary, limited actions God chooses to perform.
- 14:00Owen has to dismantle this unstoppable force versus
- 14:04immovable object dilemma. How does he address the claim
- 14:07that God's attributes are limited?
- 14:09Well, Owen attacks Sasinus's definition of mercy.
- 14:12South Sinus defines mercy as nothing more than the bare
- 14:15action of forgiving offenders. And Owen says.
- 14:18Owen argues that true Divine Mercy is a supreme perfection of
- 14:21the divine nature disposed to assist the miserable.
- 14:24Both justice and mercy are infinite internally.
- 14:27They are infinite perfections of God's essence.
- 14:30OK, but how do they interact without crashing into each
- 14:33other? They possess different rules
- 14:34governing how they are expressed externally, which Owen refers to
- 14:37as their egresses. I see.
- 14:39So the internal perfection is infinite, but the external
- 14:42egress operates under specific legal and moral parameters, yes.
- 14:46Owen introduces a massive theological distinction here,
- 14:49the necessity of justice versus the freedom of mercy.
- 14:53The necessity of justice, meaning God has to execute it.
- 14:56Right. God must exercise justice to
- 14:59preserve His natural right and dominion over creation.
- 15:03If God allowed rebellion to go unpunished, the moral universe
- 15:07would collapse and He would cease to be the supreme
- 15:10magistrate. Because an authority that issues
- 15:12a law without a penalty is not issuing a law at all.
- 15:16They are issuing a suggestion. Spot on.
- 15:19The necessity of justice is structural.
- 15:21To use an architectural analogy, justice is a load bearing wall
- 15:25in the moral universe. You cannot remove it without
- 15:28bringing down the entire structure.
- 15:30And mercy, on the other hand, operates differently.
- 15:32The egress of mercy requires a free act of God's will.
- 15:35Meaning God is not bound to exercise mercy toward any
- 15:39rebellious creature. Right.
- 15:40Mercy, by its very definition, cannot be demanded.
- 15:43If mercy could be demanded, it would cease to be mercy.
- 15:46It would become an obligation of justice.
- 15:48Exactly. I mean, yes, that is the core of
- 15:50it. God is obligated by His own holy
- 15:52nature to execute justice, whereas He is completely free to
- 15:55choose whether or not to execute mercy.
- 15:57So Owen states that God is bound to exercise mercy to none, but
- 16:01he cannot but exercise his justice towards sinners if he is
- 16:04to preserve his natural dominion.
- 16:06Right. And regarding Sisenis's point
- 16:09about God being slow to anger, Owen differentiates between the
- 16:13infinite perfection of justice and the finite execution of
- 16:16anger in present history. So the external effects have
- 16:19limits assigned to them by the wisdom of God in this timeline.
- 16:22Yes, but Owen points out that the duration of the effect of
- 16:25justice is infinite, citing Paul's letters concerning
- 16:29everlasting destruction. OK, we must shift our focus from
- 16:33the theoretical philosophy of attributes to the historical
- 16:36execution of all these concepts. The crucifixion of Jesus Christ,
- 16:39yes. This is where the debate leaves
- 16:41the realm of scholastic logic puzzles and hits the bedrock of
- 16:45history. Because so Sinus takes his
- 16:47premise to its terrifying logical conclusion, which is
- 16:51because he believes God can freely pardon without
- 16:53satisfaction, he calls the satisfaction of Christ a human
- 16:56fiction. A human fiction.
- 16:58Yeah, he writes that if his view of God's casual justice is
- 17:01accurate, the human fiction of the atonement would just vanish.
- 17:04Think about the massive implications of that statement
- 17:07for you listening if God is simply a supreme Lord who can
- 17:11waive moral debts with a thought.
- 17:13Right, if he can grant forgiveness without any payment
- 17:16required. The cross becomes an unnecessary
- 17:19tragedy. Why would a good God subject
- 17:22Jesus Christ the horrors of crucifixion, the scourging, the
- 17:25wrath, and the physical agony, if he could have simply wiped
- 17:29the slate clean from the throne room?
- 17:30It makes no sense. Owen views this absurdity as the
- 17:34ultimate triumph of his own argument.
- 17:36The cross is not an accident, and it is certainly not a
- 17:39fiction. It stands as the historical,
- 17:41irrefutable proof of infinite justice and infinite mercy,
- 17:44operating simultaneously and perfectly.
- 17:47Owen go straight to the Apostle Paul to prove this.
- 17:49Specifically Romans 3, 3, verses 25 and 26.
- 17:52Where Paul writes that God set forth Christ as a propitiation
- 17:56through faith in his blood to declare his righteousness.
- 17:58And the climax of that theological argument is that God
- 18:01did this so that he might be just and the justifier of him
- 18:04which believeth in Jesus. Just and the justifier, the
- 18:08exact 2 concepts so Sinus argued could not exist together.
- 18:11Right Owen demonstrates that God exercised absolute severity
- 18:16toward the surety. He did not spare Christ.
- 18:18That is the infinite egress of justice.
- 18:21And at the exact same moment, God exercised supreme grace
- 18:25towards sinners who were dead in trespasses.
- 18:27That is the infinite egress of mercy.
- 18:29Both attributes are fully expressed without contradiction.
- 18:32Owen presents a rhetorical question that completely
- 18:35shatters the Sicinian worldview. He asks if sinners were
- 18:39alienated without strength and did not even request a sacrifice
- 18:42to avert God's anger, why would God make Christ to be sin for us
- 18:47if it was not strictly required to satisfy divine justice?
- 18:50It is a phenomenal point, Owen points out that we did not
- 18:52appoint A sacrifice from our own herds to appease God.
- 18:55We were enemies of God. So if forgiveness was as simple
- 18:58as a cognitive choice by a cosmic creditor, God would have
- 19:02pardoned humanity without shedding blood, Yes.
- 19:05The undeniable fact that God provided such a severe, costly
- 19:08sacrifice proves that a severe, costly satisfaction was an
- 19:11absolute necessity. So Owen replaces the false idea
- 19:14of So Sinus, this idea of God as a casual creditor with a
- 19:17biblical reality of God as an infinitely pure judge.
- 19:20And by doing so, he secures the meaning and necessity of the
- 19:23cross. He defends the atonement from
- 19:26being reduced to a meaningless, tragic display.
- 19:29He secures it as the ultimate testimony of Divine Love and the
- 19:32sole objective basis for the justification of sinners.
- 19:35Yeah. Let us summarize the massive
- 19:38paradigm shift we have looked at today.
- 19:40We started with the Sicilian view, presenting A palatable,
- 19:43easy concept of God. God holds our debts, but because
- 19:47he is generous, he waves them. No blood, no satisfaction
- 19:50required. Justice is treated as a
- 19:52temporary mood God can snap out of.
- 19:54But Owen dismantled that framework entirely.
- 19:57He demonstrated that God's justice is his inherent nature.
- 20:00He cannot pass sin unpunished without violating his own purity
- 20:04and destroying his moral. Forgiveness is not a simple
- 20:07waving of a debt. It requires an agonizing
- 20:09payment. Right.
- 20:10The gospel rests on the reality that God provided that payment
- 20:13himself through the mediator. Consider how this alters your
- 20:16view of grace. If you adopt the Sicilian view,
- 20:19grace is incredibly cheap. It costs God nothing to look
- 20:22past your rebellion. But following Owen's scriptural
- 20:25logic, grace is staggeringly costly.
- 20:28Forgiveness is not casual. It required an absolute literal
- 20:32satisfaction of an infinite standard of purity.
- 20:35It means when you are forgiven, justice has not been ignored, it
- 20:39has been exhausted. Your entire posture before God
- 20:43changes. You do not stand there assuming
- 20:46he let you off the hook with a warning.
- 20:48You stand there knowing the full weight of the moral law was met
- 20:51and the Ledger was cleared by blood, not by a clerical error
- 20:54in heaven. Which brings us to a final
- 20:56thought for you to consider. We started this discussion
- 20:59contrasting A courtroom and a bank right.
- 21:02We have seen that God's forgiveness required a physical,
- 21:04exhaustive satisfaction of justice.
- 21:07Someone had to absorb the blow. Yeah.
- 21:09So if God's forgiveness of you required such a staggering cost
- 21:12to satisfy divine justice, how should that alter the way you
- 21:16forgive others when they incur A moral debt against you?
- 21:19That is a heavy question. Does true forgiveness always
- 21:22require someone, perhaps even you, the one doing the forgiving
- 21:25too willingly absorb a cost? Well, when someone wrongs us,
- 21:30there is a tangible moral deficit to forgive them.
- 21:33We cannot pretend the deficit does not exist.
- 21:36The debt must be absorbed. The Ledger never balances
- 21:39itself. The scales of justice demand
- 21:41wait. Thank you for joining us on this
- 21:43deep dive into John Owens dissertation on divine justice.
- 21:46We will catch you next time.