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Credlin | 13 August · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Quedlin Live from year twenty four.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: tonight on kredline two point five billion. That's how much
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Speaker 2: taxpayers you are going to shout out to keep the
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Speaker 2: tommygo smelter afloat. And the PMS still under fire for
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Speaker 2: crude commentary about the Japanese leader despite a bump in
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Speaker 2: the polls. Andrew Bragg risks coalition in fighting with a
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Speaker 2: speech yesterday full of politic thought, bubbles across a whole
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Speaker 2: host of portfolios, and Goes Taylor forced to shut him down. Today,
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Speaker 2: last ad shock departure of White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt.
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Speaker 2: What does this mean for the Trump administration just a
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Speaker 2: few months out from the midterms, and astounding scenes where
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Speaker 2: else but in Melbourne of high school kids protesting against
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Speaker 2: Pauline Hansen. A TGV ignorance on display was phenomenal, but
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Speaker 2: they went after our own reporter Georgie Dickerson.
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Speaker 3: Aimless sentiment to where cazer.
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Speaker 4: Is, don't.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy kids protest seem pretty stupid commentary, ignorant commentary.
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Speaker 2: I'll get to that at the moment, but first, as
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Speaker 2: much as he mightn't wish it otherwise. In the Parliament today,
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister was still dogged by his crew commentary
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Speaker 2: about his Japanese counterpart. Here's Opposition Leader Angus Taylor kicking off.
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Speaker 2: At the top of question time.
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Speaker 5: This morning, the Prime Minister was asked yet again about
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Speaker 5: his classless comments on the Bush Deep podcast. Yet again
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Speaker 5: he refused to give a straight answer. To save him
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Speaker 5: from embarrassment, the new South Wales Premier stepped in and
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Speaker 5: shut down the question why won't the Prime Minister Manner
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Speaker 5: stop hiding behind his colleagues and take responsibility for his
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Speaker 5: grubby behavior?
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Speaker 6: And I direct into the comments of the Ambassador of Japan,
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Speaker 6: who's stated very clearly the dinner hosted by Prime Minister
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Speaker 6: Albanezi during the Prime Minister's visit to Australia this May
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Speaker 6: was held in a very relaxed atmosphere and we believe
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Speaker 6: it helped build a personal trust relationship between the two leaders.
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Speaker 6: Indeed it did. We have a very good relationship with
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Speaker 6: Japan and I look forward to continuing to work with
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Speaker 6: our friends on economic issues as well as interests of
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Speaker 6: peace and security and prosperity in our region.
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Speaker 2: Now I chose to play the Prime Minister's response in
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Speaker 2: full tonight because I wanted you to see that there
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Speaker 2: was not even anything remotely resembling an apology to Japan's
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Speaker 2: first ever female leader. And then I want to play
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Speaker 2: you something that no one should miss after that question
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Speaker 2: from the opposition leader, Well, the government then gets to
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Speaker 2: ask itself a question. Asking yourself a question in parliament,
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Speaker 2: we call that O Dorothy Dixon.
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Speaker 7: So with the Prime Minister on the.
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Speaker 2: Ropes about the melon comments and the disrespect he showed
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Speaker 2: Sono Takachi, he showed Japan, even the disrespect shown to
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Speaker 2: Carlie Minogue and his own wife over those shagging comments.
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Speaker 2: Have a listen to VI from one of the labor
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Speaker 2: backbitch was.
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Speaker 8: The Albanezy labor government working to prevent family, sexual and
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Speaker 8: domestic violence, improve early intervention and make sure women and
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Speaker 8: children can access support they need free from violence.
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Speaker 7: How more shameless can this bloke get?
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Speaker 2: The man who makes smutty, crude jokes about women now
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Speaker 2: wants to lecture the nation about treating women and girls
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Speaker 2: with respect. Well done on the opposition heading back with
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Speaker 2: this follow up question. A month before he made sexist
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Speaker 2: remarks about the Prime Minister of Japan on the Bushjeep podcast.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister did post this comment online. No matter
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Speaker 2: who's support in politics, it is completely unacceptable to demean, objectify,
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Speaker 2: belittle or offend women. So why won't the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: stop hiding behind his female front benches and the new
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Speaker 2: South Wales Premier and take responsibility for his disrespectful behavior.
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Speaker 2: Good on y Thigh McKenzie for calling it out, and
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Speaker 2: shame on every one of those labor women running a
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Speaker 2: protection racket for the Prime minister.
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Speaker 7: The Liberals have absolutely lost the plot.
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Speaker 2: Trying to perpetuate this ridiculous, this ridiculous thing.
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Speaker 9: The remarks from the Prime Minister have been misinterpreted.
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Speaker 7: He has enormous respect for women.
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Speaker 10: Those opposite who have engaged, who are so desperate to score,
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Speaker 10: so desperate to score political points that they are confecting
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Speaker 10: a diplomatic issue.
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Speaker 2: All of you women, His sheerler shields you, diminish, all
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Speaker 2: of us making excuses for grubby innuendo filmed from the
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Speaker 2: couch at the lodge instead of calling it out now,
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Speaker 2: not so, Chris Mins. Some journalists today said that Min's
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Speaker 2: defended alban Easy at the press conference they held together
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Speaker 2: today in the Hunter Valley. Mins did not. Chris Mins
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Speaker 2: did not. He spoke up to change the topic. But
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Speaker 2: if you listen carefully, he didn't make excuses, unlike the
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Speaker 2: labor women for smart that just can't be defended.
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Speaker 7: Here's a clearly.
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Speaker 2: Under pressure and frustrated Prime minister today and then that
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Speaker 2: intervention from Premier Mins.
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Speaker 6: I've answered this question many times. The fact is, well,
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Speaker 6: the fact is, the fact is that the Japanese Prime
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Speaker 6: Minister and I have a very good relationship the Japanese.
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Speaker 6: The Japanese Ambassador's made very clear statements indeed about how
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Speaker 6: warm our dinner was, and it was indeed, it was fair.
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Speaker 11: Go and ask a thousand workers what they care about today.
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Speaker 12: Witnestly, this is the.
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Speaker 11: Biggest announcement to this region in a generation. Can we
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Speaker 11: just talk about it for five minutes.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 2: You'll recall last night I said this about Min's when
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Speaker 2: it comes to integrity the left of frauds. I couldn't
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Speaker 2: imagine Peter Malinowskis or Chris Min's behaving as the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister did in that low rent podcast. I couldn't imagine
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Speaker 2: Kim Beasley entertaining a question about shagging Kylie.
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Speaker 7: Mino, I just can't.
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Speaker 2: Look if your emails to me today are any indication
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Speaker 2: of many of you agree with those comments. Almost all
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Speaker 2: of you say just how embarrassed you are that almin
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Speaker 2: Easy represents us and our country on the world stage.
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Speaker 2: And I agree with you, but questions of character to
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Speaker 2: one side. We'll come back to this. Let's get into
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Speaker 2: the reason why Min's was there with Alban Easy this
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Speaker 2: morning in the Hunter Valley.
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Speaker 6: It is in our national interest to have an economy
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Speaker 6: that has manufacturing that is not dependent upon something somewhere
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Speaker 6: else occurring, because we know that can lead to disruption.
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Speaker 11: It's a complicated deal. It was not straightforward. You've got
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Speaker 11: the federal government, the state government alongside Tommygo. We wanted
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Speaker 11: to make sure that any agreement wouldn't just last past
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Speaker 11: a media release or a meeting like this, but decades
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Speaker 11: into the future.
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Speaker 2: Today's announcement and risky package for tom Ago are whopping
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Speaker 2: two point five billion dollars to bail out a smelter
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Speaker 2: and keep heavy industry in this country. And it's not
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Speaker 2: government money. There's no such thing as government money.
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Speaker 7: This is your money.
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Speaker 2: It's your money bailing out Rio Tinto because without the
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Speaker 2: cash that leave Australia and go and set up in
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Speaker 2: a country where power prices are cheaper. That's the reality,
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Speaker 2: and who can blame them? We have done this to ourselves.
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Speaker 2: Australia is only in this position because we've all drunk
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Speaker 2: the green energy cool aated have gone from being a
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Speaker 2: country rich with God given natural resources that we used
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Speaker 2: to use like colon gas, to one fast drowning and
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Speaker 2: dead and energy insecurity. Because we think Chinese wind turbines
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Speaker 2: and pels solar panels make more sense, Well they don't
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Speaker 2: and they never will not when the coal and gas
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Speaker 2: that we won't use here is shipped off to China
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Speaker 2: and India for them to use anyway, how's that saving
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Speaker 2: the planet? It's not, you know that it's powering their economy.
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Speaker 2: It's making China and India richer, but doing nothing for
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Speaker 2: the environment. It takes China just twelve days to produce
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Speaker 2: the same amount of carbon emissions that we in Australia
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Speaker 2: produce in a whole twelve months. We are one percent
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Speaker 2: of global emission. But somehow we think we can change
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Speaker 2: the weather here or by ourselves. We just have to
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Speaker 2: go back to the dark, dark ages, junk jobs and
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Speaker 2: make ourselves poorer as a result. Now, years ago, business
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Speaker 2: writer Terry mccran warned that net zero policies were an
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Speaker 2: economic suicide note and he was right. At today's announcement,
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Speaker 2: alongside Albanezy and Chris Mins was Energy Minister Chris Bowen.
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Speaker 2: I mean it's like the arsonist standing there at the
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Speaker 2: fire brigade, isn't it. I mean, who does alban Easy
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Speaker 2: and Bowen think they are kidding? We all know that
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Speaker 2: the only reason tom Ago needs this bailout is because
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Speaker 2: of labour's net zero madness.
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Speaker 5: This is a two and a half billion dollar admission
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Speaker 5: of failure on energy policy in this country. Why are
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Speaker 5: we paying this because we've butchered our energy system.
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Speaker 7: That's why.
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Speaker 5: Because when we had Caulfi power stations, Tommogo was never
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Speaker 5: asking us for money.
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Speaker 7: Was it part of today's bailout? I should add?
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Speaker 2: It is about labor trying to hold off a push
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Speaker 2: by one nation into those Hunter Valley coal mining seats.
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Speaker 2: Now there's a state election in Victoria, of course, in November,
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Speaker 2: but there's also one in New South Wales in March,
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Speaker 2: and labor are worried, so they are using the two
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Speaker 2: point five billion announced today to shore up workers' jobs
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Speaker 2: and votes using your money. If you work it out,
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Speaker 2: that bailout equates to about two million dollars per worker's job.
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Speaker 2: Two million per job. You are getting your private health
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Speaker 2: insurance rebate taken off you. You're being slugged with new
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Speaker 2: taxes so that labor can spend two million dollars per
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Speaker 2: job two point five billion overall to save this smelter
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Speaker 2: and save labor votes in labour seats. Honestly, almost every
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Speaker 2: night I say to myself, I don't think he can
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Speaker 2: get him bad, and he worse.
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Speaker 7: I don't think Australia can.
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Speaker 2: Slip even further down a slide to where nowhere land.
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Speaker 7: And then we do.
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Speaker 2: It gets worse, It gets worse every night. I don't
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Speaker 2: think I've ever seen a government this bad on so
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Speaker 2: many levels, but here we are. And if I feel
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Speaker 2: like that, I suspect you do too. All Right, one
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Speaker 2: week of a sitting, We've got another week next week.
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Speaker 7: Of course, the politicians they.
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Speaker 2: All get out of town on your dime on the
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Speaker 2: planes for the weekend. We'll get the lattice out of camera, though,
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Speaker 2: with the headlines. Political reporter Rubon spargo Good Evening.
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Speaker 3: The Opposition leader is warning his shadow Housing minister to
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Speaker 3: stick to Coalition policy after he sparked an internal fight
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Speaker 3: over migration. Andrew Bragg angered National zmps by suggesting the
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Speaker 3: number of backpackers coming to Australia should be cut.
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Speaker 5: Andrew expressed some of the his personal views yesterday. I
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Speaker 5: made clear to him that his job is to experience them,
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Speaker 5: or can I finish that his job is to express
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Speaker 5: the views of the coalition.
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Speaker 3: Angus Taylor insists net overseas migration will ultimately be determined
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Speaker 3: by housing supply. The federal and New South Wales governments
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Speaker 3: have struck a deal to save the Tommago aluminium smelter
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Speaker 3: from imminent closure. The agreement will secure longer term renewable
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Speaker 3: power for the facility at a cost of taxpayers of
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Speaker 3: two and a half billion dollars.
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Speaker 11: We wanted to make sure that any agreement wouldn't just
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Speaker 11: last past a media release or a meeting like this,
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Speaker 11: but decades into the future.
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Speaker 3: Workers are welcoming the deal after months of negotiations. The
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Speaker 3: New South Wales Premier has stepped in to defend the
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister over his infamous podcast appearance I've talked.
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Speaker 6: To you today, just Mahant.
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Speaker 11: This is the biggest announcement to this region in a generation.
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Speaker 11: Can we just talk about it for five minutes.
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Speaker 3: It was Anthony Abernzi's first press conference since returning from holidays.
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Speaker 2: I'll make it clear he did not defend the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: He deflected the question a very different thing. Let's get
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Speaker 2: into the headlines now. I've got a panel a lot
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Speaker 2: to talk about. Joining me now in News twenty four
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Speaker 2: host James Morrow and of course another host on Sunday
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Speaker 2: Night Lover Show, Jamie Rogers.
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Speaker 7: Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 2: I'll get in James to the economic detail of this bay.
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Speaker 2: Lad in a moment with Ross Greenwood. But politically this
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Speaker 2: says to me that labor and New South Wales is
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Speaker 2: spooked by one nation.
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Speaker 7: This deal is as much about.
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Speaker 2: Votes in the Hunter and you know one nation got
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Speaker 2: close to taking that seat of Hunter off Joel Fitzgibbon
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Speaker 2: when he was an MP, as it is about sovereign manufacturing.
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Speaker 1: I'd say it's more than about the jobs and about
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Speaker 1: the Hunter than it is about the sovereign manufacturing. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is a government that talks a big game about manufacturing,
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Speaker 1: Peter was there future Made in Australia, slush funds and
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Speaker 1: everything else. But you know, we've seen what this government
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Speaker 1: is all about. It's all about simply buying votes in
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Speaker 1: key constituencies with your money. That's exactly what's happening here.
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Speaker 1: You worked it out in your editorial two two and
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Speaker 1: a half million dollars per job. And the language, the
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Speaker 1: language that they used in that press conference, particularly when
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Speaker 1: Premier Mins you know, jumped on the grenade for elbow
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Speaker 1: there to help him out and deflect that question, was
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Speaker 1: all about you know, this is the biggest announcement for
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Speaker 1: the Hunter. It wasn't the biggest announcement for Australia's sovereign
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Speaker 1: manufacturing capability. The tell is in the language. This was
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Speaker 1: a campaign.
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Speaker 7: Stop, you're not wrong.
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Speaker 2: And of course it was also the first time we've
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Speaker 2: had the Prime Minister in front of journalists in two weeks.
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Speaker 7: He's very good at this.
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Speaker 2: It gets the sort of headwind and he hides away.
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Speaker 2: He puts his head under the desk, key does staged events,
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Speaker 2: but he avoids top questions. He couldn't hide today, are
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Speaker 2: you right? That's a good one. On the grenade went
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Speaker 2: Chris Min's, as Matt Canavan said, is about the only
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Speaker 2: adult in the room but Jamie all week and we
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Speaker 2: saw it aget in the chamber today. All week he's
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Speaker 2: been dogged by the Japanese comments, sorry, the comments about
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Speaker 2: the Japanese Prime Minister. What really gets under my skin
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Speaker 2: is all these Labor women deflecting and defending that crude
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Speaker 2: and embarrassing podcast. I mean, where is their spine on
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Speaker 2: this stuff?
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Speaker 7: Jamie? Just what I'm Peter.
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Speaker 10: They have all lost their credibility when it comes to
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Speaker 10: talking anything about women. And aren't they the party that's
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Speaker 10: supposed to be all about women and supporting women or
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Speaker 10: where are they? This is the time that they need
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Speaker 10: to be standing up and actually showing women that they
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Speaker 10: do have their back. What we have seen repeatedly from
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Speaker 10: this Labor government is to shear hypocrisy when it comes
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Speaker 10: to women that aren't on the left. If you don't
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Speaker 10: believe in their side of politics, well you're not worth defending.
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Speaker 10: We saw it happen with Gina rein Hart and the
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Speaker 10: ABC issue. But let's not forget how quick all of
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Speaker 10: the Labor politicians, including the Prime Minister, were to come
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Speaker 10: out and condemn that ditch the witch campaign around Jacinterer Allen.
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Speaker 10: But then when it comes to the Japanese Prime minister,
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Speaker 10: who is a conservative, Oh, nothing to see here. When
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Speaker 10: it comes to Gena rein Hart, there's silence and all
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Speaker 10: of them saying that they didn't watch that footage on
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Speaker 10: the ABC. It's just sheer hypocrisy on display. I think
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Speaker 10: it's incredibly disappointing and they've now lost all their credibility
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Speaker 10: and we should be reminding voters this going into the
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Speaker 10: next election.
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Speaker 2: Well, I won't let it rest on make sure right, no,
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Speaker 2: you are, they have no leg just down on when
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Speaker 2: it comes to commentary about women in particularly the Liberal
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Speaker 2: Party and women, let's.
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Speaker 7: Go to migration. Yesterday.
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Speaker 2: Of course we touched on this last night with the
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Speaker 2: Angus Taylor. A speech by Andrew Bragg at the Press Club.
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Speaker 2: He went way beyond his policy rebuilt. He made announcements
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Speaker 2: in relation or I guess prognostications, if I can call
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Speaker 2: them that, because they're not official announcements. He's not the
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Speaker 2: official minister and is certainly not the leader of the opposition,
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Speaker 2: but he made a statement that about one eighty thousand
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Speaker 2: should be where the coalition lands in terms of the
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Speaker 2: net overseas migration number. But James, this really rankled with
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Speaker 2: the Nationals have a listen.
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Speaker 13: As leader of the Nationals Party, we will not be changing,
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Speaker 13: will not be seeking chasseeing changes to working holiday visa makers,
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Speaker 13: because that's not the reason why we've had the surgeon. Migration,
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Speaker 13: often colloquially referred to backpackers, are not taking a house
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Speaker 13: in a major city away from others that could be
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Speaker 13: using it.
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Speaker 5: I look, Andrew expressed some of his personal views yesterday.
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Speaker 5: I made clear to him that his job is to
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Speaker 5: experience them, or can I finish that his job is
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Speaker 5: to express the views of the coalition and the senior
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Speaker 5: team of which he is a member.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, ticked off publicly there, of course by leader.
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Speaker 2: I know that there's been shadow ministers who have spoken
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Speaker 2: to him personally.
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Speaker 7: And I say Bragg by name, Bragg.
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Speaker 2: By nature, James, but there's a not a lot he's got.
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Speaker 7: To brag about.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Bragg's behind the disastrous era of Susan Lee's liberal leader.
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Speaker 7: We all know how that ended.
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Speaker 2: I think he should just sit down, stick to his
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Speaker 2: knitting and perhaps not get into everybody else's policy turf.
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Speaker 1: Well, this was such a piece of freelancing, Peter. But
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Speaker 1: you know, there's so much unpack with this here. I
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Speaker 1: want to know, did Angus Taylor's office see the speech
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Speaker 1: before he went to deliver it. I mean, it just
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Speaker 1: seems remarkable to me that he would go and freelance
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Speaker 1: like this, come up with a number one hundred and
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Speaker 1: eighty thousand that's only twenty percent lower than where Labor's targets,
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Speaker 1: and we know they're going to overshoot him by a
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Speaker 1: lot of two hundred and twenty five by twenty seven
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Speaker 1: twenty eight. Is this whole idea? It was so politically
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Speaker 1: cynical there to remind everybody that there's divisions in the
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Speaker 1: coalition about migration by you know, talking about the backpackers
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Speaker 1: and the working holidaymakers and all of that who the
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Speaker 1: agricultural sector relies on. Everybody knows those aren't the people
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Speaker 1: we are concerned about. I mean, maybe if you've got
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Speaker 1: to clean up the mess on New Year's Day at
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Speaker 1: Cougie or Branti, that's about it. The trouble the backpackers cause,
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Speaker 1: not the trouble in the housing market, not all the
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Speaker 1: tertiary education mills that we have. Everybody knows where the
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Speaker 1: problem is that, ain't it. This was a really really
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Speaker 1: underhanded and disgraceful performance, I thought, And you know, I
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Speaker 1: just don't know that Angus Taylor has done enough to
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Speaker 1: pull him into line.
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Speaker 7: I agree with you there.
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Speaker 2: I think this has got a lot to do with
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Speaker 2: faction of politics, sinewsath Wales, and I don't think this
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Speaker 2: will be the end of it. I think brags absolutely
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Speaker 2: on notice and Angus is due to have a race
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Speaker 2: shuffle he hasn't had. And yet I know exactly where
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Speaker 2: I reshuffle Andrew Bragg to. Let's go to the rallies
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Speaker 2: across the nation, kids who should be in school. It's
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Speaker 2: not as though Australia's leading the international league tables at all.
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Speaker 2: It's anything but. But they're out protesting against one nation.
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Speaker 2: Have a look at what happened to our own reporter,
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Speaker 2: Georgie Dickerson in Melbourne in les.
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Speaker 14: Sentiments to where Cazer is and dot.
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Speaker 9: Give it back, give it back, give it back, give.
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Speaker 7: It back, give.
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Speaker 14: It She saw the microphone.
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Speaker 10: We had to actually just chase that protester through the
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Speaker 10: packed crowd.
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Speaker 11: They actually put it inside a cools bag and sprints
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Speaker 11: it off with our microphone.
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Speaker 2: I looked at a lot of the Rushes coming in
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Speaker 2: today on this Jamie, and you know kids screaming fascism.
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Speaker 2: Most of them could spell fascism talking about President Pauline Hansen. Well, kids,
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Speaker 2: that's not how democracy works. We don't have a president
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Speaker 2: as our head of state. I would love to see
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Speaker 2: them sit in class. I'd love to see them learn
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Speaker 2: to debate ideas, disagree with civility.
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Speaker 7: You're a mum, Jamie.
21:20
Speaker 2: You must look at that and think what the heck
21:22
Speaker 2: is happening with kids in Australia. Parents too, they bear
21:26
Speaker 2: responsibility here, but also our education system.
21:31
Speaker 10: Your spot on Peter. All week when we've been talking
21:34
Speaker 10: about the lead up to these protests, I really wanted
21:37
Speaker 10: the schools to step in and also the government, I
21:40
Speaker 10: mean Marine Feruki was signing a pass to give students
21:44
Speaker 10: the day off school. I think what we should have
21:46
Speaker 10: been encouraging is for the students to sit in the
21:48
Speaker 10: classroom and actually analyze one nation's policies and actually talk
21:52
Speaker 10: to each other about what is it that I do
21:54
Speaker 10: like or I don't like and actually start to learn
21:57
Speaker 10: how to think for yourself, not be told what to think.
22:01
Speaker 10: And this is what's getting really concerning about the education
22:03
Speaker 10: system is that children are being forced and told about
22:06
Speaker 10: a certain ideology and then they are absolutely just running
22:09
Speaker 10: with it. And we saw that on display today. A
22:11
Speaker 10: lot of them couldn't explain exactly what it is about
22:14
Speaker 10: Pauline Hanson that they didn't like. I find it really, really,
22:17
Speaker 10: really distressing, and I often refer back to a quote
22:20
Speaker 10: of Abraham Lincoln that said, what is taught and learned
22:24
Speaker 10: in the classrooms today is what will be policy in
22:26
Speaker 10: the future. So it makes me worried about where our
22:29
Speaker 10: country is going when we look at these young kids
22:32
Speaker 10: who are going so far to the left, which of
22:34
Speaker 10: course is fine, but they're still so young. And also,
22:37
Speaker 10: why wouldn't you do a protest on a Sunday? I
22:39
Speaker 10: reckon a lot of those kids there were just trying
22:41
Speaker 10: to get the day off. But it is also a
22:43
Speaker 10: breeding ground for being able to get the left radicalization
22:46
Speaker 10: in youngsters.
22:48
Speaker 2: You know, James, When I was at school in the
22:50
Speaker 2: United States, I did a subject called civil politics and
22:56
Speaker 2: you sat there in year ten I think it was
22:57
Speaker 2: a year eleven equivalent in Australia at least, and you
23:00
Speaker 2: learn about your system of government. In that case, obviously
23:02
Speaker 2: the American system of government. You learned about your democracy
23:06
Speaker 2: warts and all, and you had these sorts of debates
23:09
Speaker 2: and everyone had to do it to finish and get
23:11
Speaker 2: your high school diploma. I think this is missing in Australia.
23:16
Speaker 1: It's absolutely missing. We've had lots of reports to the
23:19
Speaker 1: state of Civics education in this country is absolutely dire.
23:22
Speaker 1: The one thing I'm harmed by is that the numbers
23:24
Speaker 1: were very small compared to previous school strakes. So you know,
23:29
Speaker 1: I think maybe this is a bit of a fail
23:30
Speaker 1: for the organizers.
23:33
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, maybe it is.
23:34
Speaker 2: But let's put it back in the curriculum and get
23:36
Speaker 2: some of the other jug out. I'll leave it there,
23:38
Speaker 2: look forward to both your programs you tomorrow night, James,
23:41
Speaker 2: and of course you on Sunday, Jamie.
23:42
Speaker 7: Right before the break.
23:44
Speaker 2: This is a bit of a sign, a straw in
23:45
Speaker 2: the wind. Let's not get too head of ourselves here,
23:48
Speaker 2: but it's a sign to me that the Liberal Party
23:49
Speaker 2: might be getting serious at fighting back on labor and
23:53
Speaker 2: a bit more agile.
23:54
Speaker 7: To have a look.
23:55
Speaker 2: At this ad that's just been released taking the Prime
23:59
Speaker 2: Minister to task for his mounting lies.
24:03
Speaker 3: You can only lie to people once.
24:05
Speaker 7: You can only do it once.
24:06
Speaker 6: Only once?
24:07
Speaker 11: Can you rule out any changes to negative gearing and
24:10
Speaker 11: capital gains?
24:11
Speaker 4: Yes?
24:12
Speaker 6: How hard is it for the fiftieth time?
24:14
Speaker 9: Were those statements promises?
24:17
Speaker 13: What they were?
24:18
Speaker 3: Statements?
24:20
Speaker 6: And we have changed our position?
24:22
Speaker 3: But bullshit?
24:23
Speaker 6: People got a couple of melons she brought to she
24:26
Speaker 6: brought too as you do?
24:27
Speaker 15: You know I stepped off the stage.
24:29
Speaker 6: I didn't fall over on my backside.
24:33
Speaker 7: I stumbled, that's what happened.
24:35
Speaker 5: How sure are you that that two hundred and seventy
24:37
Speaker 5: five is robust?
24:38
Speaker 12: Well, I don't think.
24:39
Speaker 1: I know.
24:40
Speaker 6: I know because we have done the modeling.
24:43
Speaker 9: Do you stand by that modeling?
24:47
Speaker 1: It's reputexas modeling.
24:48
Speaker 6: I've always been a man of my word.
25:00
Speaker 7: Authorized by l follow Liberal Canberra. There you go. Pretty powerful,
25:05
Speaker 7: isn't it?
25:06
Speaker 2: And that's gone far and wide on social media this afternoon,
25:09
Speaker 2: right after the bragg Ross Greenwood, we'll look into that
25:13
Speaker 2: announcements day in relation to tome Ago. But it's the
25:15
Speaker 2: tip of the iceberg. We'll get into the other bailouts
25:19
Speaker 2: as well, and the arsonist Chris Bowen at the fire
25:22
Speaker 2: I tell you what, welcome back. We're going to check
25:29
Speaker 2: in with our News twenty four White House correspondent for
25:33
Speaker 2: his assessment of the shock news today that Caroline Leavitt
25:36
Speaker 2: and I'm a huge fan of stepping down as official
25:39
Speaker 2: White House Press secretary. But also in some breaking news,
25:43
Speaker 2: we now know how Nikki Osborne, the podcaster, a deep
25:49
Speaker 2: Bush podcaster who did that interview with the Prime Minister
25:52
Speaker 2: got hold of him and got in his diary and
25:56
Speaker 2: into the front room there at the lodge.
25:57
Speaker 7: I'll have that for you in the moment. It shocks me,
26:00
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what.
26:02
Speaker 2: But let's go now to the bailout announced today by
26:04
Speaker 2: the federal New South Wales governments and it's it's yet
26:08
Speaker 2: another bailout in a long line of bailouts for large
26:13
Speaker 2: scale manufacturing in Australia.
26:15
Speaker 7: Have a look at the screen.
26:16
Speaker 2: The bailouts total now seven point seven billion dollars. That's
26:21
Speaker 2: your money that we're wasting because labor is persisting with
26:25
Speaker 2: a whole lot of green policies designed to drive these
26:28
Speaker 2: manufacturers broke and send them off shore. Joining us now
26:32
Speaker 2: on New twenty fourths, Business editor Ross G. Greenwood, who
26:35
Speaker 2: I suspect is as cranky as I am about this
26:39
Speaker 2: colossal waste of money. It's all borrowed money too, I
26:42
Speaker 2: might add, we're borrowing money left, right and center in
26:45
Speaker 2: this country. But that's two million per job ross.
26:49
Speaker 15: It's a lot of money per job, there's no doubt.
26:51
Speaker 15: But he's the second and important part about this. Rio
26:54
Speaker 15: Tinto is a company that is worth on our stock
26:57
Speaker 15: market two hundred and thirty seven billion dollar and yet
27:00
Speaker 15: it's gone to the government not once but twice to
27:03
Speaker 15: get bailed out from these aluminum smelters.
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Speaker 1: One you saw there is.
27:07
Speaker 15: Quite clearly Tomigo, which is the biggest electricity user in
27:11
Speaker 15: New South Wales that uses up to twelve percent of
27:14
Speaker 15: the total electricity that's generated in New South Wales. The
27:17
Speaker 15: other one is the Boin smelter and Rio Tido owns
27:20
Speaker 15: seventy three percent of that. So you might ask why
27:23
Speaker 15: is it that the government would bail out one of
27:25
Speaker 15: the wealthiest mining companies in the world. Well, the reason
27:28
Speaker 15: is because these companies have threatened to close down these
27:32
Speaker 15: smelters and move elsewhere. Now, aluminium, I've got to tell
27:36
Speaker 15: you is what people sometimes call solid electricity, and so
27:41
Speaker 15: the reason why these smelters are run economic. Every one
27:43
Speaker 15: of those on the screen there near star which is
27:46
Speaker 15: Port Pirie and Tasmania mount Either. Of course, copper whale
27:50
Speaker 15: of steel works is a basket case and arguably could
27:53
Speaker 15: and should have been closed. But the reality is in
27:56
Speaker 15: the aluminium smelters in particular, they need their core ingredient,
28:01
Speaker 15: which makes up about thirty to forty percent of their cost,
28:04
Speaker 15: is electricity. And the reason why they were started here
28:06
Speaker 15: in Australia in the first place is because we had
28:09
Speaker 15: plentiful and cheap electricity, and so as a result of this,
28:13
Speaker 15: as soon as electricity prices have started the rise, as
28:17
Speaker 15: we've had the rollout of renewables, every one of these
28:20
Speaker 15: managers of these aluminium smelters has screamed a government for
28:24
Speaker 15: a decade and basically said, hey, listen, you've got to
28:27
Speaker 15: find a way to give us cheap, reliable base load
28:31
Speaker 15: power because this intermittent power which is coming from the
28:35
Speaker 15: renewables is not good enough to be able to run
28:37
Speaker 15: these smelters. And so their cost of electricity have risen
28:41
Speaker 15: on average by around fifty percent in the past ten years,
28:44
Speaker 15: which makes these smelters uneconomic except for the case when government,
28:50
Speaker 15: state and federal have to effectively bail them out. It's
28:53
Speaker 15: not about the thousand jobs. It's just about the fact
28:55
Speaker 15: that these smelters and the money from Riotinto and other
28:58
Speaker 15: giant miners will pick it self up and go somewhere
29:01
Speaker 15: else in the world. And that is not good for
29:03
Speaker 15: Australia at all.
29:05
Speaker 2: And one I want Painple to understand too, with these
29:08
Speaker 2: heavy industries in Australia, the risk they leave is the
29:13
Speaker 2: national security risk should they go.
29:15
Speaker 7: Right.
29:16
Speaker 2: So a lot of these processes, as it was explained
29:18
Speaker 2: to me in government, in policy sense, a military grade
29:21
Speaker 2: steel is different than a lot of the still that
29:24
Speaker 2: we might import from places like Indonesia and in part
29:26
Speaker 2: in China. So we want that sovereign manufacturing capability of
29:30
Speaker 2: military grade steel on shore. We need to keep these
29:34
Speaker 2: products here like smelters as well all the mining that
29:37
Speaker 2: we possibly can. The world is an uncertain place. So yes,
29:41
Speaker 2: there's a balance sheet risk, absolutely ross, but there's a
29:45
Speaker 2: national security risk if they leave. Hence there is a
29:49
Speaker 2: national security argument and this would have been discussed around
29:51
Speaker 2: the cabinet table believe me, as to why the two
29:54
Speaker 2: and a half billion dollars today should be paid. But
29:56
Speaker 2: what angers me and I think angers every Australian watching
29:59
Speaker 2: this tonight is that the arsonist is there for the announcement.
30:02
Speaker 2: I mean, the reason we're in this mess is Chris Bowen,
30:05
Speaker 2: the arsonist is there as the five brigades trying to
30:08
Speaker 2: put out the fire.
30:08
Speaker 7: Oh well, that's that staggered me.
30:11
Speaker 15: I've got to say so to. I've seen the Industry
30:13
Speaker 15: Minister Tim Ayirs there today absolutely one hundred percent. So
30:16
Speaker 15: I've seen Chris Min's, the new South Wales Premier, who
30:19
Speaker 15: was a reluctant participant in this, I'll say because remember
30:22
Speaker 15: at the very beginning, this was a commitment by the
30:25
Speaker 15: Prime Minister went to those workers, one thousand workers and
30:28
Speaker 15: said I've got dull back, I will actually make certain
30:31
Speaker 15: that this does not collapse. And so as a result,
30:33
Speaker 15: Chris men said, well, you made the announcement, you put
30:36
Speaker 15: most of the money in, and of course the Fed
30:38
Speaker 15: said well no, no, And so there's been friction between
30:41
Speaker 15: the New South Wales government and the federal government over
30:44
Speaker 15: who should pay for the bailout of Tomago. Now, as
30:47
Speaker 15: it turns out, they've had to do separate deals and
30:49
Speaker 15: I think there might be announcements about GST redistribution coming
30:54
Speaker 15: in the next little while. I'll be interested to watch
30:56
Speaker 15: that because that might be the quid pro quo when
30:59
Speaker 15: you say Wales gets something back, particularly from Western Australia.
31:03
Speaker 15: But you know the point is to see Chris Bowen's
31:05
Speaker 15: standing there. Well, you know this was really all about
31:08
Speaker 15: the actual philosophical commitment to renewable energy that really caused
31:13
Speaker 15: these industries to become uneconomic in Australia. And this is
31:17
Speaker 15: not what we want in Australia. We want dynamic, vibrant,
31:20
Speaker 15: competitive businesses here in Australia that stand on their own
31:24
Speaker 15: to feed, that don't need government plailouts. That's what this
31:27
Speaker 15: country needs, not government simply turning up the whole time
31:30
Speaker 15: with a spare billion dollars of your taxpayer dollars to
31:34
Speaker 15: simply prop them up.
31:37
Speaker 2: I want to go to something, Chris Ross now that
31:40
Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan wrote The Australian during the week because I
31:43
Speaker 2: think this is a this is an unhappy collision of
31:46
Speaker 2: foreign policy and economics. He wrote that no country more
31:51
Speaker 2: thoroughly practices in places greater value on courtesy, politeness, dignity,
31:56
Speaker 2: face and respect than Japan. Now you deal with business,
32:02
Speaker 2: I know you've dealt with business in Japan as well,
32:04
Speaker 2: but you deal with Australian companies who put themselves on
32:08
Speaker 2: the front foot with Japan who try and address all
32:12
Speaker 2: of these very localized cultural aspects of doing business and
32:17
Speaker 2: doing it well in Japan. How do you think the
32:20
Speaker 2: Australian businesses would be walking around the streets of Tokyo
32:25
Speaker 2: this week? How are businesses looking at that relationship and
32:30
Speaker 2: looking at the Prime Minister?
32:32
Speaker 15: Well, think about it on a couple of levels. Number
32:34
Speaker 15: one is not just the way in which Japanese people
32:37
Speaker 15: go about their business. Now Again, Japanese people are not
32:41
Speaker 15: impolite people, so they will say nothing about this, but
32:45
Speaker 15: they will never forget. That's another important thing. The second
32:48
Speaker 15: part about this is also bear in mind that this
32:51
Speaker 15: government is already under a big question mark by the
32:54
Speaker 15: Japanese government, which has actually committed through its companies, many
32:58
Speaker 15: tens of billions of to Australian gas export businesses, particularly
33:04
Speaker 15: in that Gladstone region. Now they expect to have that
33:07
Speaker 15: gas there for their own sovereign security. And the real
33:10
Speaker 15: issue right now for Japan is that the government, that is,
33:15
Speaker 15: the Albanese government has said it's going to take twenty
33:18
Speaker 15: percent of all foreign gas it's destined for places such
33:21
Speaker 15: as Japan and use it for the domestic gas industry
33:25
Speaker 15: simply because guess what, we can't or have the wherewithal
33:29
Speaker 15: to go and find more gas for ourselves, despite the
33:31
Speaker 15: fact that we know it's there, we can't approve the
33:34
Speaker 15: developments to get that gas out from under our own feet.
33:37
Speaker 15: And this is where again, places such as Japan, having
33:41
Speaker 15: made commitments knowing that that gas was supposed to be
33:44
Speaker 15: basically taken directly to them over a very long period
33:48
Speaker 15: of time to create their own nations more security, to
33:52
Speaker 15: double cross on that is seen again to be a
33:55
Speaker 15: fundamental betrayal. So even more, I suggest than the melon situation,
34:00
Speaker 15: is that gas situation is equally seen to be a
34:03
Speaker 15: betrayal of trust in the Australian government.
34:08
Speaker 2: And the Prime Minister ending over backwards for Beijing at
34:11
Speaker 2: every opportunity. Also, I know has residence in Tokyo.
34:15
Speaker 7: I'll leave it there.
34:15
Speaker 2: Ross, thank you for your time. After the break, she's
34:18
Speaker 2: a new mum now to two little children. Well today
34:21
Speaker 2: she resigns. So how much do we read into the
34:23
Speaker 2: departure of White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt plus the
34:27
Speaker 2: five for the soul of the Democrats? The rise of
34:30
Speaker 2: the radical left. So are the inmates now in charge
34:33
Speaker 2: of the asylum? Welcome back Stilllicalm the former Islamist fanatic
34:42
Speaker 2: who's now sounding the alarm about the social fabric of Australia.
34:46
Speaker 2: This is at the Royal Commission into Anti Semitism. The
34:49
Speaker 2: First Shop News overnight. White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt,
34:52
Speaker 2: as I said I'm a huge fan, has resigned and
34:55
Speaker 2: would finish her role at the end of the month.
34:58
Speaker 2: She said in a statement that the true is since
35:01
Speaker 2: returning to the White House after the birth of my daughter,
35:04
Speaker 2: I have felt it in my heart that I cannot
35:06
Speaker 2: be the best mom mum to the best mum that
35:09
Speaker 2: two young children deserve, and that's why I've ultimately made
35:13
Speaker 2: the bittersweet decision to depart the White House and embark
35:16
Speaker 2: on a new chapter in my life. Joy mean now
35:19
Speaker 2: to discuss this and more, and I'm pleased to say
35:20
Speaker 2: he's in Australia. Our Washington correspondent New twenty four is
35:24
Speaker 2: Jonathan Kursley. Well, John, I know what these jobs are
35:28
Speaker 2: like and compared to working for an Australian Prime minister,
35:31
Speaker 2: it would be absolutely next level over where you normally are,
35:35
Speaker 2: so how do you judge this departure. She has got
35:39
Speaker 2: two little ones, I think two under the age of two.
35:42
Speaker 2: It can absolutely be all about the family, but is
35:45
Speaker 2: it more than that.
35:47
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna get some answers over this over
35:49
Speaker 4: the next little while. The big thing for me looking
35:51
Speaker 4: at this is the timing. You are just a matter
35:54
Speaker 4: of a couple of months out from arguably the most
35:56
Speaker 4: important off your elections for quite some time off your elections.
35:59
Speaker 4: Midtim elect that will shape the final two years of
36:03
Speaker 4: Donald Trump's legacy as president forty seven and the final
36:07
Speaker 4: two years of his career as a president. It would
36:11
Speaker 4: be a monumental moment. She was the youngest ever White
36:15
Speaker 4: House Press secretary, and no disrespect obviously Peter did the
36:18
Speaker 4: job you did in a previous lifetime. But this is
36:21
Speaker 4: a highly pressured one of the most highly pressured pr
36:24
Speaker 4: jobs in the world, being the voice of the President
36:26
Speaker 4: of the United States of America. She was combative, but
36:31
Speaker 4: also somebody who was widely seen as perhaps Donald Trump's
36:34
Speaker 4: best publicity weapon, and she was utilized often with great effect. Yes,
36:40
Speaker 4: there would be battles within the White House Press Corps
36:42
Speaker 4: and within the press call more broadly. That is kind
36:45
Speaker 4: of par for the course in the nature of the beast,
36:48
Speaker 4: that is political circles, particularly when you're dealing in politics
36:51
Speaker 4: on this sort of magnitude, I always found a pleasure
36:54
Speaker 4: to deal with. She was always fascinated by issues in
36:57
Speaker 4: Australia's on backyard, particularly when it came to China. But yes,
37:01
Speaker 4: going back to your question, Peter, I think the real
37:03
Speaker 4: question I have in my mind is the timing around
37:06
Speaker 4: all of this. Yes, she's saying it's because she wants
37:08
Speaker 4: to go and be a better mother to her children.
37:10
Speaker 4: She had a child during the presidential election campaign twenty
37:12
Speaker 4: twenty four one, just a matter of three months or
37:15
Speaker 4: so ago. Yes, obviously she is a young mother who
37:18
Speaker 4: wants to go and say she wants to go and
37:20
Speaker 4: do that. But the timing raises significant questions given she
37:24
Speaker 4: is obviously somebody who has great political ambition and now
37:28
Speaker 4: great political experience as well.
37:32
Speaker 2: We have no other job like it in Australia. We
37:34
Speaker 2: don't have anyone speak for our leaders. Our leaders front
37:37
Speaker 2: the camera and take a lot more questions, and we
37:39
Speaker 2: see in many places overseas, not just the United States.
37:42
Speaker 2: I think she's smart as a whip. I think working
37:45
Speaker 2: for any presidents hard, let alone this president, because not
37:48
Speaker 2: only is you out there defending him, he's on Twitter
37:52
Speaker 2: perhaps going in another direction right when you're on your
37:54
Speaker 2: feet talking at the lectern. So, given how good she was,
37:59
Speaker 2: is this only be big shoes to feel?
38:01
Speaker 7: Is he going to have.
38:04
Speaker 2: A demonstrable loss without her there in the press room?
38:08
Speaker 4: There's no denying for the president it's a big loss.
38:12
Speaker 4: Caroline Levitt was always somebody who seemed across her brief
38:17
Speaker 4: and would often respond with if she didn't have the answer,
38:22
Speaker 4: while I will go and try and find it for you. Yes,
38:24
Speaker 4: she was combat even on the front foot, and she
38:26
Speaker 4: was a loyal defender of the president. But there is
38:28
Speaker 4: no denying that this is a big role for the
38:30
Speaker 4: president to now fill. And the question is where is
38:32
Speaker 4: he going to go to. We've seen the likes of
38:34
Speaker 4: Stephen Miller being asked today does he want to do it?
38:37
Speaker 4: Does he know people around it, who around him who
38:39
Speaker 4: would want.
38:40
Speaker 1: To do it?
38:41
Speaker 4: And it is going to be crucially important. Susie Wild's
38:43
Speaker 4: the chief of staff to the President of the United States,
38:46
Speaker 4: arguably one of the best political operators at Washington, DC,
38:49
Speaker 4: has seen for quite some time. Has a very big
38:53
Speaker 4: question to ask, and that is what sort of person
38:55
Speaker 4: do they need in the now, not just for the
38:58
Speaker 4: next six months, because the last thing and tromp more
39:00
Speaker 4: stuff to go and do is do it another sort
39:02
Speaker 4: of Scaramouchi and find somebody after eleven days. What they
39:05
Speaker 4: need to do now is find somebody who can fill
39:07
Speaker 4: the role, not just for the now, but for the
39:09
Speaker 4: next two years.
39:11
Speaker 2: All right, talk to me about the midterms. I think
39:14
Speaker 2: Australians now are getting their head around this war inside
39:17
Speaker 2: the Democrats, the rise of the socialist left. I would
39:20
Speaker 2: have thought the Democrats were already along that path, but
39:22
Speaker 2: this is an even more radical beast inside the party.
39:26
Speaker 2: David Crowley, a more mainstream Democrat, just narrowly beating a
39:31
Speaker 2: Democratic Socialist in Francesca Wong in Wisconsin.
39:35
Speaker 7: Give me your sense of things.
39:36
Speaker 4: Francesco Holng's defeat narrow was widely seen as being a surprise.
39:42
Speaker 4: It doesn't surprise me. She lost that election campaign, the
39:45
Speaker 4: Wisconsin governor's Democratic primary race, and the interesting thing there
39:51
Speaker 4: is it was very tight. Yes, she had her issues
39:53
Speaker 4: around past comments about wanting to cancel off Thanksgiving, issues
39:57
Speaker 4: that dogged her throughout the campaign, and ultimately it was
40:00
Speaker 4: her answers to questions I think that led to her
40:03
Speaker 4: not getting over the line. But the real interesting takeaway
40:06
Speaker 4: from this, Peter, is the real narrow margin we saw
40:09
Speaker 4: in that race. Look at the real narrow margin that
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Speaker 4: we saw in the Michigan Senate primary last week with
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Speaker 4: abdullel said, what that is telling you is that in
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Speaker 4: key crucial states that Democrats need to be a united front,
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Speaker 4: not just for the midterms, but looking ahead to twenty
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Speaker 4: twenty eight. It's almost a split down the middle. Both
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Speaker 4: those votes were sort of forty nine and a half
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Speaker 4: fifty and a half fifty one forty nine, And that
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Speaker 4: tells you that right now in key areas, this party
40:34
Speaker 4: has an identity crisis.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're not radical states. I mean, we're talking
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Speaker 2: about middle of Erica in many respects in terms of
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Speaker 2: the political map. We're not talking about New York and California. Here, Wisconsin, Michigan.
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Speaker 2: And I know there are pockets of a high Muslim vote,
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Speaker 2: for example in Michigan, but this is unusual territory, Jonathan.
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Speaker 4: It is unusual territory, and the man Dani effect is
40:58
Speaker 4: not going to work. The same way that it did
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Speaker 4: in New York in other parts of the country. That's
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Speaker 4: purely down to the demographic of a particular state. But
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Speaker 4: I think when you look at these midterms too, yes,
41:08
Speaker 4: the Democrats have a serious issue to fix, and that
41:11
Speaker 4: is trying to find their identity and work out what
41:13
Speaker 4: that is going forward. But the one who has the
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Speaker 4: most to lose out of all of this, it's really
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Speaker 4: President Trump. If he loses both the House and the Senate,
41:21
Speaker 4: that is arguably a disaster.
41:23
Speaker 3: Zone for him.
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Speaker 4: It puts him in absolute blame duck territory, and it
41:27
Speaker 4: makes real questions to be posed about what does he
41:30
Speaker 4: actually then want to do with the last two years.
41:34
Speaker 4: Does he want to hang around being the big one,
41:37
Speaker 4: and how would he actually want to handle that environment
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Speaker 4: if he loses one, most likely the House, or how
41:43
Speaker 4: is he going to move forward on that front? Because
41:45
Speaker 4: you can imagine that there will well be moves by
41:48
Speaker 4: the Democrats to have some sort of impeachment move in
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Speaker 4: the House in some way, shape or form if they can.
41:53
Speaker 4: Now obviously that would be defeated in the Senate if
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Speaker 4: they didn't win it. But he has a lot more
41:58
Speaker 4: to lose in these midterms than perhaps the Democrats too. Yes,
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Speaker 4: they need to find their identity, they need to find
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Speaker 4: a leader looking forward to twenty twenty eight, but it's
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Speaker 4: President Trump who right now has most to lose.
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Speaker 2: We will watch it all closely. And thank you for
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Speaker 2: being on the show. I don't often get the chance
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Speaker 2: because your hours don't work with my showtime. It's great
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Speaker 2: to have you in Australia and have that opportunity.
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Speaker 7: Thank you, Jonathan.
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Speaker 2: All Right, before the break, have a look at this
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Speaker 2: viral post of an Amazon delivery driver in the United States.
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Speaker 7: I just loved it.
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Speaker 2: I thought i'd have to show it to you tonight.
42:51
Speaker 2: We've talked to me here about flags. I'd love to
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Speaker 2: see anyone respect a flag like that, a national flag,
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Speaker 2: and you respect down flag blooded my inbox. My goodness,
43:01
Speaker 2: you're proud, aren't you. You are wonderful Australians. You love
43:05
Speaker 2: our flag and you love to fly it as much
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Speaker 2: as I do. I've got images in my inbox from
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Speaker 2: all over the country, suburbs, paddocks in the bush. It's
43:13
Speaker 2: some pretty amazing scenery, I must say, the beach scenes
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Speaker 2: and the river scenes. Your beautifully kept front lawns and
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Speaker 2: all the pets you've got in your snaps. I love
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Speaker 2: it all. Keep it coming. It's the best part of
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Speaker 2: my day to open those emails. I'll keep showing them.
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Speaker 2: Let's see if we can get it all the way
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Speaker 2: through it to Christmas. All right, after the break, the
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Speaker 2: former is a Limist extremists warning about the rise of
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism in Australia. All right, before I bring in
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Speaker 2: my panel and get across a whole lot of other rishes,
43:43
Speaker 2: I promised you before I tell you how the Prime
43:46
Speaker 2: Minister ended up on that bush deep or deep bush
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Speaker 2: or whatever it is. Podcast Nicky Osbourne's Infamous Melons podcast,
43:54
Speaker 2: We'll look at this.
43:55
Speaker 7: Mark Bouros, who has his own podcast, has just.
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Speaker 2: Hosted a video about how on Earth she got the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister to go on her podcast.
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Speaker 7: Have a listen to this favarette.
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Speaker 2: I'm going a DM the PM and invite him on
44:10
Speaker 2: mym the DM the PM.
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Speaker 7: And I did, and he got back to meek straight
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Speaker 7: away went sure, sounds like a lot of food.
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Speaker 2: Have you spoken to the Prime Minister since?
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Speaker 11: No, I haven't spoken to him since because I haven't
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Speaker 11: known how to.
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Speaker 10: Phrase it, because I don't want to go was it
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Speaker 10: as good for you as.
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Speaker 7: It was for me.
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Speaker 2: Right, it's smart all the way through. Joined me now
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Speaker 2: on my panel on New twenty four contributed Kosher Garda
44:35
Speaker 2: and former Labor MP Michael Danby.
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Speaker 7: Well, you know, on so many levels.
44:41
Speaker 2: The crassness, the crew, the smart, all of that put
44:45
Speaker 2: that to one side. But I've never known a political
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Speaker 2: leader to respond to a text message from anyone in
44:51
Speaker 2: the media or anyone they don't know. It's risky beyond belief.
44:54
Speaker 2: But for that girl to slide into his DMS on
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Speaker 2: his social media, yeah, the PM respond and the next
45:02
Speaker 2: thing you know, she's sitting in the living room at
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Speaker 2: the lodge and they're talking all manner of smart and
45:09
Speaker 2: really unedifying content. Is this really where we're up to
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Speaker 2: now in Australia?
45:14
Speaker 12: Unprofessional, undisciplined. The other serious people and the socialist left
45:19
Speaker 12: who run the government, Mark Butler and Penny Wall we'd
45:22
Speaker 12: be giving him a private kick saying go through your
45:25
Speaker 12: press office, stop doing this kind of stuff. But it
45:28
Speaker 12: does worry me. I mean, his wife made a very
45:30
Speaker 12: credible speech about public health matter and he's off with
45:35
Speaker 12: you basically fluosies in his office, you know, just sort
45:38
Speaker 12: of sucking up to them, pretending that's the youth vote.
45:41
Speaker 2: Unprofessional, undisciplined people say to me that this is the
45:45
Speaker 2: elbow evolved. Is this the sort of bloke he was
45:47
Speaker 2: in your experience? Yes, yeah, I think we're starting to
45:52
Speaker 2: really see the color of the guy's money. All right,
45:54
Speaker 2: let's go to some comments today. I mentioned a former
45:56
Speaker 2: Islamist fronting the Bondo will commiss. He is a Canadian
46:01
Speaker 2: who has been heavily involved in de radicalization. Have to
46:05
Speaker 2: listen to this warning. He's given Australia a warning, he says,
46:08
Speaker 2: about this critical grap gap in our deradicalization programs, speaking
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Speaker 2: about social division in this country, which he says will
46:17
Speaker 2: be exploited if we do not deal with anti Semitism.
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Speaker 16: What we've seen also is that seventy percent of our
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Speaker 16: cases show some kind of antisemitic influence. In other cases,
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Speaker 16: the anti Semitism is just one of a number of
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Speaker 16: hateful ideas that they may have, but it does anti
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Speaker 16: Semitism appears to be the connective tissue across extremist ideologies.
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Speaker 2: All right, coacher, his name is Movement Shake. He's literally
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Speaker 2: at the cold face to some of the cold face.
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Speaker 2: Some of the worst of the worst. When a bloke
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Speaker 2: like that gives us a warning like that, we have
46:59
Speaker 2: got to listen.
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Speaker 9: Yes, and good for him. I couldn't help but notice
47:02
Speaker 9: the absurdity that it takes reformed Islamist extremist to make
47:07
Speaker 9: that point. So there is a little bit absurdity there.
47:10
Speaker 9: But yes, he's making that point. He knows of what
47:12
Speaker 9: he speaks, given the perspective he comes from, anti Semitism,
47:16
Speaker 9: anti Christian, anti white, all of that, and we know
47:19
Speaker 9: the reasons for that. Step one is have unabated immigration
47:23
Speaker 9: from all sorts of different pockets of the world. Step two,
47:25
Speaker 9: remove all the incentives for simulation. Step three, in fact,
47:28
Speaker 9: pander to the different groups. That's what you get. That's
47:31
Speaker 9: the recipe of it. It's maybe amplified now because of
47:34
Speaker 9: what he's talking about, but the foundations for that have
47:36
Speaker 9: been in place for a long time.
47:37
Speaker 7: And we know we talk a lot about the UK.
47:39
Speaker 2: We see it obviously in the UK, but we are
47:41
Speaker 2: really now saying it inside the Democratic Party in the States.
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Speaker 9: Yes, and all these wins, we're just talking about it.
47:46
Speaker 9: In your previous segment of the extreme lefts It makes
47:49
Speaker 9: even AOC who's moderating now even though he believes her
47:52
Speaker 9: see more moderate because that's the way the momentum is.
47:56
Speaker 9: There is enough again of that electorate that's putting those
47:58
Speaker 9: people into office.
47:59
Speaker 7: And fun times had we.
48:01
Speaker 2: Looked around the streets of our capital cities today and
48:03
Speaker 2: all these students out there protesting against Pauline Hansen, displaying
48:07
Speaker 2: their ignorance, their literacy, everything else was on display. Michael,
48:13
Speaker 2: but I was shocked about those reports. In relation to
48:16
Speaker 2: Sydney University this week, there was an academic there, Ben Fahima,
48:22
Speaker 2: connections with Iran money that we are spending in our universities,
48:26
Speaker 2: with nation states that don't want to do Australia any favors.
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Speaker 7: What the heck's going on?
48:33
Speaker 2: If our kids in high school are this bad and
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Speaker 2: our universities are this bad, you know what hope is there?
48:41
Speaker 12: Penny, You would have thought that Professor Scott would have
48:44
Speaker 12: noticed that the Iranian Intelligence Service was accused by Asia
48:48
Speaker 12: and proved by Asia to be involved in terrorism all
48:52
Speaker 12: over Australia. Professor Scott, I know you were a chairman
48:55
Speaker 12: of the ABC, but you've got to take these things seriously.
48:59
Speaker 12: That's the place where all of these barring of Jewish
49:02
Speaker 12: students from going into.
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Speaker 2: The head of Head of City UNI. It was VC
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Speaker 2: the VC City UNI.
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Speaker 12: I'm sorry the old Polish saying the fish thinks from
49:15
Speaker 12: the head. You've got to have leaders who show leadership
49:19
Speaker 12: and you can't allow this kind of behavior. He should
49:21
Speaker 12: have had a bar on all academics from that university,
49:25
Speaker 12: like all responsible vice chancellors should on attending states that
49:30
Speaker 12: they are in a state of war that are antagonistic
49:33
Speaker 12: to Australia, particularly ones that have demonstrated their ability to
49:36
Speaker 12: interfere in Australian internal affairs.
49:39
Speaker 2: I've got a bit long, but i just want you
49:41
Speaker 2: to tell my viewers about the cost that we will
49:43
Speaker 2: spend for the head of the treaty in Victoria.
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Speaker 9: Four hundred and seventy thousand dollars. That's the going rate
49:49
Speaker 9: for the DEI complex. I'll use that broader term that's
49:52
Speaker 9: been propped up now for generations. Is taking a hit,
49:55
Speaker 9: but it is there, and these people would never function
49:57
Speaker 9: of that read in a normal free market if they
49:59
Speaker 9: actually was the years of actual companies that had shareholders
50:01
Speaker 9: and metrics that they had to respond to.
50:03
Speaker 7: But it's salary, it's shocking salary. Leave it there, thank
50:06
Speaker 7: you both.
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Speaker 2: Of course, this is the voice in Victoria, and even
50:09
Speaker 2: though Victorians voted against it in a federal sense, they
50:11
Speaker 2: got it anyway.
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Speaker 7: I'll leave it there, have a terrific weekend. See your Monday.
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Speaker 7: Parliament's back. Of course, here's Andrew