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Speaker 1: It's the good reform it tonight A new report now
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Speaker 1: is the lie that racist police are killing Aborige is
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Speaker 1: in jail, that race bating, saidator Lydia Thopte today couldn't
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Speaker 1: give up spreading this poison on the ABC, which didn't
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Speaker 1: push back the ABC bias. You'll be shocked, IM sure
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Speaker 1: what I'll show you. Barnaby Joyce will also join us
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Speaker 1: this time is a one nation MP free to speak
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Speaker 1: at last, and the US says it's going to check
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Speaker 1: Australian tourists. Have you posted anything bad about the US
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Speaker 1: on the internet? Plenty more tonight, but first there's now
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Speaker 1: a stink to high Heaven from this expenses scandal up
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Speaker 1: in Canberra, with even wilder examples of politicians spending your
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Speaker 1: money on themselves. But the one man who could lead
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Speaker 1: the cleanup change the rules' is saying who me? Me's
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Speaker 1: not my job. Besides it's not important enough.
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Speaker 2: I haven't changed the rule. I haven't changed the rule.
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Speaker 1: Yes, promise. Anthony ALBINIZI disgraced himself today by being part
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Speaker 1: of the cover up, pretending he couldn't change the expenses
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Speaker 1: rules and then rushing out of a press conference after
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Speaker 1: cracking it with journalists who kept asking him about it,
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Speaker 1: and no one looking at all. These examples of politicians
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Speaker 1: socking it to tax poys could have any doubt that
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Speaker 1: we are being taken for a ride. How about this
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Speaker 1: latest example mentioned it briefly last night, Green Senator Sarah
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Speaker 1: Hanson Young using her family reunion travel entitlement to fly
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Speaker 1: husband Ben Oaquist, a professional lobbyist, from and to Canberra
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Speaker 1: seventy eight times in three years, seventy eight times, costing
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Speaker 1: US fifty thousand dollars flowing him up to Canberra that often.
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Speaker 1: Was it really so the couple could spend some valuable
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Speaker 1: me time together, or was it so Oquis could do
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Speaker 1: his lobbying job there? Oquist works for DPG Advisory Solutions,
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Speaker 1: whereas director of Climate and ESG which means Environmental, Social
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Speaker 1: and Governance. And by the way, here is Oquist just
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago in Parliament House cheering on
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Speaker 1: a green energy Transport group, albeit not listed as a client.
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Speaker 1: He's got his lanyard on, But to be fair, I
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Speaker 1: don't know if his wife used her taxpayer allowance this
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Speaker 1: time to get him there. Now, handsome Young may well
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Speaker 1: have a perfectly good answer, but she curiously wouldn't give
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Speaker 1: it this morning was she had the perfect opportunity. I mean,
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Speaker 1: she's got a regular panel spot here on Sky News
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Speaker 1: every Thursday morning with Peter Stephanovic. But today, with her
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Speaker 1: expensive story all over the news, she was a no show.
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Speaker 3: And let's start with Sarah Hanson Young.
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Speaker 4: It's your regular opponent on this panel on a Thursday morning.
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Speaker 3: But curiously she's pulled out of her slot.
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Speaker 1: So there's another example for you that smells off. But
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Speaker 1: once again the Prime Minister this morning claimed not to
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Speaker 1: have an opinion about this one either. It made out
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Speaker 1: like it was someone else's job to do anything about
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Speaker 1: this kind of thing.
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Speaker 2: Of course, these issues are of genuine concern to the
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Speaker 2: tax paying public, but we have an independent authority. I'm
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Speaker 2: going to allow them to do their job.
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Speaker 1: Well. That independent authority must be either blind or deaf,
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Speaker 1: or maybe the rules are simply incredible slack, because for
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Speaker 1: three years Hansy Young has been flying her husband to
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Speaker 1: Canberra and for three years this independent authority has said nothing.
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Speaker 1: And if the problem is the rules, and guess who
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Speaker 1: could change them or should change them, could lead the
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Speaker 1: charge to change them? Will let me introduce you to
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Speaker 1: that very person. It is this guy, the Prime Minister himself.
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Speaker 1: He could drive through changes like he says Scott Morrison
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Speaker 1: did before him. So why is he refusing to? Is
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Speaker 1: this is I don't hold the hoes moment? Does he
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Speaker 1: defend this stuff? Defend his sports minister Anika Wells spending
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Speaker 1: seventeen hundred dollars on dinner and drinks in Paris for
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Speaker 1: just the self, to staff and an Australian diplomat, like
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Speaker 1: Wells also flying her husband to three AFL Grand Finals,
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Speaker 1: two boxing day tests and a weekend in the snow,
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Speaker 1: plus other events, or like Wells making a chauffeur wait
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Speaker 1: with a meter running for up to ten hours while
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Speaker 1: she's at the tennis, or Wells flying her self to
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Speaker 1: a friend's birthday party, all of it on the taxpayer's dime.
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Speaker 1: There was the Prime Minister today with Anika Wells nodding
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Speaker 1: sanctimoniously behind him, again playing the gender card in her defense, nephew, believe,
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Speaker 1: Anthony Albanezi, Anika Wells does need to fly to parties
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Speaker 1: and keep chauffeurs waiting, and fly her husband to top
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Speaker 1: sporting events and splurge seventeen hundred dollars at a Michelin
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Speaker 1: Star restaurant, because how else would we get more women
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Speaker 1: into parliament. It really was that crass and offensive to women.
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Speaker 2: Community expectations are important.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that has, of course occurred. The
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Speaker 2: parliament in two thy and twenty five looks very different
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Speaker 2: from the parliament in which I was elected for eighty
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Speaker 2: three years. Our parliament elected what were largely older mail,
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Speaker 2: all male, every seat labor Liberal Country Party uIP protectionist.
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Speaker 2: Every single electorate in New South Wales elected a bloke.
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Speaker 1: Oh bless his socks. You've got to let these women
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Speaker 1: spend big or they won't come into parliament. I mean, really,
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Speaker 1: what a joke. This is not just about the greed though,
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Speaker 1: it's also about effective government. Now this government is running
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Speaker 1: out of money and you've seen the headlines. You know
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Speaker 1: it's the manding government departments make big savings. Well, how
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Speaker 1: effective is a spending crackdown going to be when the
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Speaker 1: same public servants supposedly doing it, see their own minister're
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Speaker 1: living large on the taxpayer, treating our taxes like her
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Speaker 1: at is that the standard they're supposed to follow? But
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Speaker 1: by the end of today's press conference, Albaniz, you had
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Speaker 1: enough of these sorts of questions, and like I say,
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Speaker 1: he cracked it. Why were these journalists asking him about
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Speaker 1: politicians living larger taxpace expense instead of asking him about
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Speaker 1: his great triumph this week kicking kids off social media
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Speaker 1: with the help of that same communications. Mister Anika Wells
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Speaker 1: behind him, still nodding away with that, with that complaint made,
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Speaker 1: the two of them were off.
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Speaker 2: I've answered multiple questions on it today. I am focused.
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Speaker 2: I am focused. What I have said very clearly is
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Speaker 2: what I am focused on. I'm focused on one of
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Speaker 2: the biggest reforms. When you look back and you know
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Speaker 2: you're you'll be able to write a book maybe on
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Speaker 2: the period of the Labor government. When you look back
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Speaker 2: and you look out, what are the five biggest things
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Speaker 2: that we did? I'll tell you what This will be
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Speaker 2: one of them. And that's what makes me proud. Thanks
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Speaker 2: very much.
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Speaker 1: That you come to me. So now you know the
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Speaker 1: promise is turning a blind eye to politicians spending your
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Speaker 1: money on themselves, and he just wishes journalists focused on
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Speaker 1: his world, beating history, making brilliance. Instead may be your taxes,
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Speaker 1: but who in this government cares now here's a lesson
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Speaker 1: for the Albanezi government, which isn't backing off it's zero
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Speaker 1: policies and won't until the damage is done now. Victoria
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Speaker 1: is the state which went craziest with this global warming
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Speaker 1: ideology and as a result is now so short of
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Speaker 1: gas with bill soaring that it has quietly approved two
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Speaker 1: new ex exploration licenses for gas projects in the Otways
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Speaker 1: and Gippsland is begging for companies to tend to for them.
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Speaker 1: It's all a bit late now, of course, but what
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Speaker 1: a huge change. This is the same labor government that
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Speaker 1: for years banned or gas exploration on land, with then
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Speaker 1: Premier Daniel Andrews claiming, ah, that's no big deal to
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Speaker 1: span because there's no gas to find anyway.
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Speaker 5: If you ban gas development, people will pay more for gas.
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Speaker 6: That's just common sense.
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Speaker 5: Well, firstly, there needs to be gas there, so there
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Speaker 5: are no proven or probable onshore carriaging explorations. How would
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Speaker 5: you know? Well, drillers of course will say that there's
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Speaker 5: there's a river of gas under there.
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Speaker 1: And we shodologists will as well.
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Speaker 5: No, no, actually, experts, so geologists and others. Their position
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Speaker 5: as it stands today is there are no proven or
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Speaker 5: probable onshore reserves.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Daniel Anders was a genius as saying the
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Speaker 1: most stupid things with such a series is determined face
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Speaker 1: that people believed them. In fact, there was gas and
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Speaker 1: the government is now desperate to get it because this
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Speaker 1: idiotic ban, which has since been lifted, helped to cripple
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Speaker 1: gas supplies. And note that when Andrews said that the
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Speaker 1: ban was no deal because there's no gas anyway, he
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Speaker 1: was running the same kind of dishonest and silly arguments
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Speaker 1: that the Owenizy government uses to justify its ban now
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Speaker 1: on nuclear power. You know, we must ban it because
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Speaker 1: nuclear is too expensive and no one will invest in
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Speaker 1: it if there's no gas, then well I've got to say,
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Speaker 1: if there is no gas, why ban exploration, and if
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Speaker 1: nuclear is too expensive for anyone to develop, why also
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Speaker 1: ban that? I mean, these guys are just they're lying
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Speaker 1: to you. At least the Victorian government has been dragged
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Speaker 1: into saying yes again to gas, but it's still set
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Speaker 1: so many restrictions ridiculous ones has change the constitution even
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Speaker 1: to train and band fracking for gas forever, even though
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Speaker 1: the technique is used safely in the US. And it
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Speaker 1: says companies wanting these new licenses must get approval from
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Speaker 1: unelected traditional loarners. Joining me is my regular guest One
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Speaker 1: Nation Federal MP Barnaby Joyce, the former Deputy Prime Minister.
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Speaker 1: Barnaby jo just great to see you. That clip of
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Speaker 1: Daniel Andrews to me, that's a real warning. You know
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Speaker 1: that politicians pushing the global warming scale will say anything
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Speaker 1: to stop us using coal or gas. The stove gas
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Speaker 1: in the ground where it clearly was. And now look
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Speaker 1: at the mess we're in. What do you make of that?
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Speaker 7: It's an absurd It's part of the cult, the coult
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Speaker 7: that says that you know, we're going to run Australia
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Speaker 7: an intermitted power and windmills and solar panels. The solar
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Speaker 7: panels that, by the way, caught on fire the other
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Speaker 7: day at Wellington in the middle of a bush fire season.
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Speaker 6: Let's not worry about that.
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Speaker 7: The solar panels that came with the magical sheet that
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Speaker 7: weren't apparently there, that apparently it was spased to be
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Speaker 7: grazing under the solar panels that were on fire.
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Speaker 6: Look, the whole thing is.
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Speaker 7: A cult, and the reality is, if you want cheap
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Speaker 7: power we have to have. I can say this now,
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Speaker 7: cal fire power stations, right, Coal fire power stations give
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Speaker 7: you the cheapest power. Everything else gives billionaires a massive
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Speaker 7: return with your taxpayer hundred dollars through capacity investment.
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Speaker 6: Skins.
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Speaker 7: Now, there is gas in the ground, and if we
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Speaker 7: want to maintain the standard of living and keep our
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Speaker 7: nations secure, we have to extract it. We have to
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Speaker 7: export coal, we have to export beef, we have to
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Speaker 7: export iron ore. We have to build coal fire power
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Speaker 7: stations to give you baseload power and great volume to
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Speaker 7: bring down the price of power. We have to do
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Speaker 7: these Otherwise our nation is in a dire predicament that
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Speaker 7: we have placed there, not because of the weather, but
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Speaker 7: because of government policy.
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Speaker 6: We have done it to ourselves.
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Speaker 7: And that is and these sort of socialist people, we
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Speaker 7: can say that now, socialists such as Dan Andrews, who
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Speaker 7: believes in the primacy of the state over the individual,
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Speaker 7: that you're all imbecile in the state has to lock
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Speaker 7: you in your house during COVID and tell you what
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Speaker 7: top of power you got to use, and tell you
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Speaker 7: what sort of job you're going to have, and determine
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Speaker 7: where the economy is going to go.
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Speaker 6: Socialism just does not work.
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Speaker 7: It doesn't work, and you can see it now in
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Speaker 7: your debt, and you can see it now in the
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Speaker 7: basket case, the economic.
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Speaker 6: Basket case, which is the state of Victoria.
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Green Senator Sarah Hanson Young Badaby Joyce Sarah Hanson
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Speaker 1: Young's expenses flying her lobbyist husband to and from Canberra
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Speaker 1: seventy eight times in three years. Does that pass the
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Speaker 1: smell test?
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Speaker 7: No, it doesn't, you know, And even those the other
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Speaker 7: side of the political fence.
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Speaker 6: I know Ben, of course he's a good guy.
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Speaker 7: But Ben of all people should have if he even
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Speaker 7: if he's Sarah couldn't say it. Ben should have seen
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Speaker 7: it that this is never You just can't go seventy
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Speaker 7: eight times when you're employed in Canberra. It's not going
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Speaker 7: to take very long. But poor people join the dots
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Speaker 7: and say, mate, your job is in Canberra and the
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Speaker 7: taxpayers lying you to Camber, but you're paid for differently.
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Speaker 6: You should pay for.
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Speaker 7: Your flights to Camber out of your own pocket, Ben,
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Speaker 7: not out of the taxpayer's pocket.
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Speaker 6: And Sarah, how on earth did you think you were
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Speaker 6: going to get away with that? But you know this
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Speaker 6: is something in the past.
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Speaker 7: Now people might have gone to jail for this, some
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Speaker 7: of this stuff in the past, I'm serious about that.
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Speaker 7: They may have gone to jail, but now they get
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Speaker 7: slap on the wrist. And you know, everybody is entitled
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Speaker 7: to make mistakes, but you belligerents and completely and artly
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Speaker 7: just basically not reading the street on what you're doing here,
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Speaker 7: and like, you know, the simple one, like we had
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Speaker 7: the Prime Minister standing beside a lady who spent seventeen
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Speaker 7: hundred dollars, ladies and gentlemen one thousand and seven hundred
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Speaker 7: dollars on a night out and the tiles in Paris,
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Speaker 7: and the Prime Minister can't see a problem with that.
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Speaker 6: We know what it's on. It's a bit on food,
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Speaker 6: but it'd be a bloody lot on grog. A big
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Speaker 6: notch up.
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Speaker 7: And why is a taxpayer paying for the minister's grog bill?
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Speaker 6: Why are you the taxpayer paying for a grog bill?
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Speaker 6: You know if she was kicking no.
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Speaker 1: No today for it, so not barnaby. The Prime minis
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Speaker 1: arounds are that you need to pay seventeen hundred dollars
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Speaker 1: for a night on the thousand Paris otherwise women won't
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Speaker 1: be become politicians apparently. I mean, it's an insult to
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Speaker 1: women to say that, but that was what the Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister was apparently saying today. Now I've got to say,
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Speaker 1: you know, Sarah Hanson Young might have a perfect good explanation.
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Speaker 1: She might say, I know that ben Oquist was in fact,
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Speaker 1: her husband isn't based in Camber, that he works from home,
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Speaker 1: or that you know, when it was a work of
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Speaker 1: Eddy would have flown on it. He would have paid
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Speaker 1: for his own affairs. There could be very very good explanations,
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Speaker 1: which is why I'm astonished that she dodged the opportunity
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Speaker 1: to come on sky day in a regular spot and
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Speaker 1: say it, what's the heart and say it, so.
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Speaker 6: Let the sunlight. Let the sunlight in.
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Speaker 7: Sometimes the best disinfectant, isn't that what the socialist always say?
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Speaker 6: The sunlight is the best disinfectant.
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Speaker 7: Well, well, well she pulled that, She pulled the curtain
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Speaker 7: shut today.
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Speaker 6: Didn't she like no unlight coming in today? I mean
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Speaker 6: it's quite obvious. Seventy eight times.
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Speaker 7: I mean, all these things we play, this stupid little game,
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Speaker 7: would be better if they just came out and said yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 7: stuffed up, okay for the mercy of the court, tell
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Speaker 7: me what the bill is and I'll fix it.
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Speaker 1: Up exactly right. Bonnaby Joyce, thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: your time after the breaking new report. Now is that
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Speaker 1: old lie that police are killing Aboriginal prisoners, these racists,
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Speaker 1: but tell that today to race baiting Senator Lydia Thorpe
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Speaker 1: and the ABC that a new reporter said, not sure
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Speaker 1: about that at all. One of the most vicious and
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Speaker 1: damaging and persistent lies told about Australias that our police
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Speaker 1: and prison guards kill Aborigines in custody, kill them in
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Speaker 1: prison cells, and our politicians do nothing. Now it's been
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Speaker 1: suggested for years, of course, and with zero proof, and
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Speaker 1: today we've got a particularly discussing example of it on
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Speaker 1: the ABC, which did not once push back or call
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Speaker 1: it out, even after reading a report that essentially nailed
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Speaker 1: the line. Let me take you through this interview this
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Speaker 1: morning with race baiting Senator Lydia Thorpe, who was introduced
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Speaker 1: like this.
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Speaker 8: Lydia Thorpe is a Gunai, Gundich Mara and jab Warren
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Speaker 8: woman and an independent senator for Victoria.
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Speaker 1: Really, I was thinking why that racial descriptor as if
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Speaker 1: it's a qualification for leving Thorpe ran on when surely
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Speaker 1: her background is more nuanced, given that seven of our
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Speaker 1: eight great grandparents weren't Aboriginal at all. But then it
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Speaker 1: got plain nasty. Now they were discussing an Institute of
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Speaker 1: Criminology report that's just come out that said thirty three
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Speaker 1: Aborigine he said, died in custody in the last financial year.
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Speaker 1: And if you listen to Thoorpe, you might be left
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Speaker 1: with the impression the police and waters were killing some
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Speaker 1: of them, even many of them, or at least with
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Speaker 1: the cause of those deaths.
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Speaker 8: There's a number of reasons why Abaginal people are dying
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Speaker 8: in custody. Racist police is certainly a contributing factor. Killing
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Speaker 8: our people in custody should be a trigger to stop
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Speaker 8: funding these states and territories. I've heard terrible stories of
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Speaker 8: prison guards holding back asthma pumps to children who are
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Speaker 8: having asthma attacks. So there is complete human rights violation
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Speaker 8: happening in the Northern Territory and in other jurisdictions. So
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Speaker 8: the Northern Territory government are perpetrating this violence.
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Speaker 1: Perpetrating violence even I mean, like I say, no pushback
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Speaker 1: from ABC host Melissa Clark, even though this Institute of
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Speaker 1: Criminology report they were discussing, notes that Aboriginal prisoners are
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Speaker 1: in fact less likely the non Aboriginal ones that are
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Speaker 1: in custody when you look at them as a proportion
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Speaker 1: of prison population, less likely, not more. If you're Aboriginal,
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Speaker 1: there's zero point fifty five chants. When you're non Aboriginal,
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Speaker 1: then you have a point to two percent chance. That
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Speaker 1: does not suggest that racist police are They're killing black prisoners,
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Speaker 1: picking on them. And what's more, of the twenty six
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Speaker 1: of those Aboriginal prisoners who died in prison had their
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Speaker 1: death examined, most start of suicide or some health issue.
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Speaker 1: There's no record of murder. Average prisoners work more likely
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Speaker 1: today in custody relative their total population in the country,
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Speaker 1: But they're The real issue is that average is in
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Speaker 1: fact more likely to be in jail in the first place.
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Speaker 1: But is that really caused by white racism? What is
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Speaker 1: it caused by black crime for some other reason? Join
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Speaker 1: me a Sky News host the Nikka to Georgia and
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Speaker 1: communications consultant Christy McSweeney, who has worked for coalition prime
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Speaker 1: ministers and premiers and this week talks to us from Bali, Christie,
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Speaker 1: I'm quite hon How nice of you to interrupt your
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Speaker 1: holiday in paradise. Oh I'm so sorry. Oh dear, there
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Speaker 1: I go.
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Speaker 9: All my clients know that I am currently in a
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Speaker 9: tropical location, but proving here I'm still working very very
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Speaker 9: hard and keeping up with the news all the advice.
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Speaker 1: And the other thing is taxpayers did not fly you there,
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Speaker 1: which is apparently a rarity these days. No claim that. Yes,
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Danika, this claim that racist police kill Aboriginal prisoners.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I just think it's been so nasty and dangerous,
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Speaker 1: so divisive out and Aboriginal communities in particular. But even
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Speaker 1: when you get a report this week showing that there's
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Speaker 1: zero evidence of that, you get a race banning politician
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Speaker 1: on the ABC still suggesting it, and an ABC host
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Speaker 1: doesn't challenge it.
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Speaker 4: Why well, Andrew, we speak a lot on your show
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Speaker 4: about culture wars, and this is exactly why the culture
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Speaker 4: wars matter, because there is absolutely an underlying bias where
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Speaker 4: it's always white people against Aboriginals, and yet we're all
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Speaker 4: taken remember to the polls in the middle of the
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Speaker 4: cost living crisis today invite us on the color of
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Speaker 4: our skin, and it was an absolute failure.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you're aware.
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Speaker 4: There has just been a case of a police officer
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Speaker 4: that's gone through the courts here in New South Wales,
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Speaker 4: Benedict Bryant, and he was charged with dangerous driving occasioning
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Speaker 4: the death of an Aboriginal teenager when this teenager who'd
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Speaker 4: stolen a.
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Speaker 3: Trailbike, crashed into the patrol car.
22:20
Speaker 4: The patrol car was stationary, it was at a roadblock
22:23
Speaker 4: position crashed into it.
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Speaker 3: Yet the police officer was charged.
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Speaker 4: A New South Wales coroner was investigating this as a
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Speaker 4: death in custody even though it wasn't a death in custody,
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Speaker 4: referred the matter to the DPP. The officer was charged
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Speaker 4: and has been found guilty in the last week and
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Speaker 4: a half.
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Speaker 3: By a judge.
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Speaker 4: But it was a commentary after by advocates that were
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Speaker 4: just was just as concerning as the actual case itself. Andrew,
22:45
Speaker 4: one of the advocates, said that they hope that this
22:48
Speaker 4: actually emboldens prosecutors to take higher charges against police officers
22:53
Speaker 4: in the future. Police do not stand a chance when
22:57
Speaker 4: it comes to these issues. And now of horse deaths
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Speaker 4: in custody and this whole narrative has been blown wide
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Speaker 4: open by the Institute of Criminology today. The issue is
23:06
Speaker 4: we have not closed the gap in this country yet
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Speaker 4: We've had been the Voice referendum, Victoria's gone ahead with
23:11
Speaker 4: treaty just into Allen's just apologized again to the Stolen generation.
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Speaker 3: Kevin rud dead in two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 4: Yet the outcomes for Aboriginal people are worse since two
23:21
Speaker 4: thousand and eight, and there is a higher number of
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Speaker 4: Indigenous Australians in prisons compared to White Australians. So that
23:29
Speaker 4: is an absolute fact. If we don't close the gap,
23:31
Speaker 4: we're going to keep seeing higher rates of incarcerations. But
23:34
Speaker 4: we cannot just keep blaming police officers for every sort
23:38
Speaker 4: of health outcome for the community or anything like that,
23:42
Speaker 4: because it's the police officers who are suffering day in,
23:44
Speaker 4: day out.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Look, I want to get through a couple of issues,
23:50
Speaker 1: So skip right on, Christie if you don't mind to
23:54
Speaker 1: the federal opposition right now leaking all kinds of teasers
23:58
Speaker 1: about the immigration policy they're about to release. They could
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Speaker 1: do tougher vetting of members of China's Communist Party for instance,
24:05
Speaker 1: and other organizations to check, you know, have these people
24:08
Speaker 1: applying for visa's got anti Australian values and turbo charging
24:13
Speaker 1: deportations of people who break our laws and undesirable But
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Speaker 1: the US, now Chris is doing exactly the same. The
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Speaker 1: US Customs and Border Protection Agencies says a strained tourists
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Speaker 1: and others will have to reveal all this social media
24:28
Speaker 1: activity over the past five years to get a visa
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Speaker 1: waiver under the you know, the America's s their application system.
24:36
Speaker 1: This rule is well, I don't know, maybe you stopping
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Speaker 1: the border for trashing American values? Is that fair enough?
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Speaker 9: I think we have to look at the United States
24:48
Speaker 9: in terms of what they actually do and what their
24:51
Speaker 9: real pitch is. They're obviously pitching to people who find
24:55
Speaker 9: that politically vibrable, and if they want to do it, sure,
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Speaker 9: it's up to them to set the parameters for their
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Speaker 9: their own country. But we do know that there is
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Speaker 9: a specific visa classes called an E three et encourages
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Speaker 9: young Australians to come to the United States to work
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Speaker 9: and study. It's overwhelmingly in favor during the application process
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Speaker 9: to Australians. I don't think Australians have anything to worry
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Speaker 9: about in terms of traveling to the United States, of course,
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Speaker 9: unless you are somebody who speaks freely on social media
25:30
Speaker 9: about your hatred of the United States and certain policies
25:33
Speaker 9: they may and put forward.
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Speaker 3: Now, the United.
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Speaker 9: States always also adheres to that free speech that they
25:41
Speaker 9: have in their right of operating that we don't have
25:45
Speaker 9: in our legal system here in Australia. And somebody please
25:48
Speaker 9: tell all the activists that it's the United States laws,
25:52
Speaker 9: not the Australian laws when they talk about free speech.
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Speaker 9: But I don't think Australians have anything to worry about.
25:58
Speaker 9: But every country is free to create jurisdictions and rules
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Speaker 9: to those jurisdictions as they see fit. And if they
26:06
Speaker 9: want to stop undesirable people coming to their country, and
26:09
Speaker 9: this is the way they want to go about it,
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Speaker 9: well they're entitled.
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Speaker 6: To do so.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting, isn't a Taneka Because you've got we talked
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Speaker 1: earlier this week about Japan cracking down on people with
26:20
Speaker 1: anti Japanese sort of values, or because manners of behavior
26:25
Speaker 1: is getting the debate in Europe, you're getting it in America,
26:28
Speaker 1: you're getting it even here from the liberals. What's going on?
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Speaker 4: Well, you know what, Andrew, I actually think good on
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Speaker 4: the United States. So this is going to involve the
26:37
Speaker 4: ESTA visa. So this is if you're a tourist, but
26:40
Speaker 4: anybody who's ever gotten a visa to enter the United States,
26:43
Speaker 4: it's actually.
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Speaker 3: A very difficult process.
26:45
Speaker 4: I have a visa to go to the US to
26:47
Speaker 4: be able to work if I wanted to. I can
26:50
Speaker 4: say that the process to try and get that was traumatic,
26:53
Speaker 4: to be quite honest.
26:54
Speaker 3: The questions that.
26:55
Speaker 4: They ask you you have to really take your mind
26:58
Speaker 4: back many many years, and they're invasive questions. So this
27:01
Speaker 4: isn't actually a new concept for the United States. It
27:04
Speaker 4: will be for tourists, but overall it simply is not.
27:08
Speaker 4: And in the end, the United States under Donald Trump
27:13
Speaker 4: is operating very differently to what the Democrats did.
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is cracking down on people.
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Speaker 4: If you don't represent the United States values, then you're
27:21
Speaker 4: not welcome in the country. Fair enough, I wish we
27:23
Speaker 4: had a lot stricter rules here in this country as well,
27:26
Speaker 4: and if you get them, well, we might get them well.
27:29
Speaker 4: I hope that the Liberal Party go ahead with it.
27:31
Speaker 4: I hope Andrew also just speaking on that, that they
27:33
Speaker 4: actually have the courage to do so, not a half
27:36
Speaker 4: hearted policy.
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Speaker 3: An actual courageous policy.
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Speaker 4: We'll see what happens, but you know what, good on Donald, Absolutely, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Christy, I'm going to let you go back to the
27:48
Speaker 1: beautiful sunshine in the place we can't mention. But autun
27:51
Speaker 1: is in the bug above you when you speakneaking to Jewsha,
27:55
Speaker 1: Christopher Sweetey, thank you very much to you both. Thank
27:58
Speaker 1: you after the break. Now Russia joins China is sending
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Speaker 1: warplanes to threaten Japan, while a report warns the US
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Speaker 1: that in the war with China, as there is one,
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Speaker 1: the US is going to lose General Jack Keane. After this,
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Speaker 1: Australia especially, are politicians got to stop pretending that war
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Speaker 1: isn't getting dangerously close, because China and its ally Russia
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Speaker 1: have incredibly this week up the stakes in preparation for one,
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Speaker 1: with a dramatic joint flight of bombers and fighters sent
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Speaker 1: to menace Japan. China's the tata Jijinping has ordered as
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Speaker 1: military to prepare for war in two years as a
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Speaker 1: war to conquered the democratic island nation of Taiwan, which
28:48
Speaker 1: has got a population almost as big as ours. But
28:51
Speaker 1: another part of that preparation, it's the scare of countries
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Speaker 1: like Australia from even thinking of defending Taiwan if it
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Speaker 1: gets to that now. In February, for instance, China's communist
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Speaker 1: regime sent three warships to circle Australia, firing their weapons
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Speaker 1: without notice, forcing forty nine planes off New South Wales
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Speaker 1: to change course. Then a couple of weeks ago it
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Speaker 1: sent its number three guy, to Anthony Albanezi, to Prime Minister,
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Speaker 1: to warn him to his face to mind his own
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Speaker 1: business when it came to Taiwan. But that is nothing
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Speaker 1: compared to what China is now doing to Japan, and
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Speaker 1: now with Russia's help, which is quite sinister. Last month,
29:33
Speaker 1: Japan's Prime minister said Japan would have to defend Tobwan
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Speaker 1: in an invasion, and since then China's threatened to cut
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Speaker 1: her dirty neck, that was the exact phrase. Has sent
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Speaker 1: its new aircraft carrier to hold exercises off the Japanese
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Speaker 1: coast and then at two planes from that carrier lock
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Speaker 1: Japanese fighters with target radar, the ultimate step before opening fire.
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Speaker 1: And now on Tuesday, two Russian nuclear capable two U
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Speaker 1: ninety five bombers rendezvous with two Chinese aged six bombers,
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Speaker 1: which are capable of carrying long range missiles, rendezvoued with
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Speaker 1: them in the East China Sea, and then together conducted
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Speaker 1: a joint flight around Japan for the first time. They
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Speaker 1: were joined by eight Chinese jets in what Japan's defense
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Speaker 1: minister said was a demonstration of force against Japan. Me
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Speaker 1: as our regular commentator, General Jack Kean. General Keen was
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Speaker 1: vice Chief of Staff for the United States Army and
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Speaker 1: a four star general is now chairman of the Institute
30:37
Speaker 1: for the Study of War. General Keen, how serious is this?
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Speaker 10: Well, I think what's really happening here is, you know,
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Speaker 10: the regime has changed in Japan and Takiki who's in charge,
30:53
Speaker 10: and she is really increasing the defense budget. She's taken
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Speaker 10: a strong stand in concert with the United States against China,
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Speaker 10: which is the major threat in the region. So I
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Speaker 10: think that has clearly got China's attention Russia along with it,
31:11
Speaker 10: and they're trying to pasture a little bit here. I
31:14
Speaker 10: don't believe Japan is going to be intimidated here at all,
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Speaker 10: and I really think this we should be encouraged by
31:22
Speaker 10: the fact that she's moving in the right direction here
31:25
Speaker 10: and it's got their attention. But it's not going to
31:30
Speaker 10: lead to coercion and change her behavior. They have come
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Speaker 10: to the realization it's a center of gravity for them
31:39
Speaker 10: that China is a major threat and they have to
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Speaker 10: stand up to them.
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Speaker 1: Well, I totally agree, but the actions of China and
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Speaker 1: Russia is just so flagrant. President Donald Trump has been
31:54
Speaker 1: reluctant to provoke China, to really call it out lightly
31:58
Speaker 1: as a military threat. But yesterday the US did say
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Speaker 1: it stood with Japan over that targeting of Japanese planes
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Speaker 1: with Chinese radars. General, I'm wondering whether one reason for
32:13
Speaker 1: President Trump's caution, apart from of course an aversion to war,
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Speaker 1: maybe a new report based on American wargames, wanting that
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Speaker 1: China now had the right weapons to defeat the United States. Now,
32:25
Speaker 1: how serious is this and what is China's advantage.
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Speaker 10: We've been running wargames against China for eight to ten years,
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Speaker 10: and maybe once in a while one of them pops
32:36
Speaker 10: into the paper. Here they're referring to an overmatch briefing also,
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Speaker 10: and that because that's a real challenge. Not only does
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Speaker 10: China outgon US, an unmatch outmatch US right now almost
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Speaker 10: weapon for weapons. You know, whether it's air defense systems,
32:53
Speaker 10: offensive long range systems, hypersonic weapons obviously ships, the numbers, airplanes, etc.
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Speaker 10: But attempting to catch up to them is very challenging.
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Speaker 10: And that's what they mean by the overmatch, not only
33:08
Speaker 10: just now but in the future. It's very sobering. I'd
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Speaker 10: be quite frank about it. Without getting into the details.
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Speaker 10: I do think are as much we can do to
33:16
Speaker 10: help ourselves here, But the reality is yes, but we
33:20
Speaker 10: play those war games, we're challenged to win and indeed
33:24
Speaker 10: lose most of them. So I've been so concerned about
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Speaker 10: this that it has seized me for a long time,
33:31
Speaker 10: and I have been arguing that we have to bring
33:34
Speaker 10: into the theater more forward deployed capability for sure to
33:39
Speaker 10: be able to deter My view is we don't have
33:41
Speaker 10: to go platform the platform with China. We didn't do
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Speaker 10: that with the Soviet Union. They outgunned us and out
33:46
Speaker 10: manned us and everything andrew, but we had enough capability
33:50
Speaker 10: there to impose cost and question whether they could be
33:55
Speaker 10: successful or not. And that's called credible deterrence. But credible
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Speaker 10: terrence it has to do with your force posture. Where
34:02
Speaker 10: are your forces number two? How much capability do you
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Speaker 10: really have because your adversary is looking at The third
34:10
Speaker 10: thing is you have to signal them your intent and
34:14
Speaker 10: what the red lines are. And then the fourth thing
34:16
Speaker 10: is you have to have the will and the resolve
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Speaker 10: to use that capability that's credible defense. We have shortfalls
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Speaker 10: in the capabilities themselves and also short falls in the
34:29
Speaker 10: forces that are in the theater. We've got to solve
34:32
Speaker 10: both of those issues, and we've got to get after
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Speaker 10: it quickly.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting this report says, you know, China can do
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Speaker 1: mass production of a lot of munitions, whereas America focuses
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Speaker 1: on the very expensive. Well, once you can't mess produce
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Speaker 1: big things, and maybe you could get overwhelmed. General Cain,
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Speaker 1: this is the last time I'll talk to you for
34:56
Speaker 1: the year. Can I ask you to reflect. You've had
35:00
Speaker 1: a honorable and impressive career defending the US ever since
35:06
Speaker 1: you served as a paratrooper in the Vietnam War. You
35:09
Speaker 1: later oversaw US engagements in Somalia, Haiti, Bosnia, Kosovo, You
35:15
Speaker 1: became Vice chief of Staff of the US Army, and
35:18
Speaker 1: all of which had Donald Trump award you the Presidential
35:20
Speaker 1: Medal of Freedom offer you the position of Secretary of Defense,
35:24
Speaker 1: which he declined. Where now do you see America and
35:28
Speaker 1: its place in the world. It's the leadership and the
35:32
Speaker 1: threats it faces.
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Speaker 10: Well, the reality is I mean when President Trump took over,
35:39
Speaker 10: he took over literally a world mass. Also used problems
35:44
Speaker 10: domestically with an open border and epic crime rates as
35:49
Speaker 10: a result of that and other things happening in our country.
35:52
Speaker 10: And I think he is in a very short time,
35:55
Speaker 10: less than a year, tried to address all of the
35:57
Speaker 10: major issues. I think he has returned American leadership to
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Speaker 10: a world stage.
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Speaker 6: For sure.
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Speaker 10: There's some people who think he's an isolation and nothing
36:05
Speaker 10: could be further from the truth. He's gone out there
36:08
Speaker 10: and try to solve seven or eight awards and brought
36:11
Speaker 10: them to peaceful conclusions. And he stepped up in the
36:15
Speaker 10: Middle East almost perfectly, I think, and removed all the
36:18
Speaker 10: restrictions on Israel and told netanyaw go ahead and finish
36:24
Speaker 10: Gaza and finish Hamas, go ahead and attack in Hesbel
36:28
Speaker 10: and Lebanon, and certainly gave him the green light and
36:31
Speaker 10: that he would support him with the attack on Iran,
36:34
Speaker 10: and then delivered a decisive blow himself. And I think
36:38
Speaker 10: the opportunities in the Middle East for some peace and
36:40
Speaker 10: stability once the Gadzian War finally does come to an end,
36:44
Speaker 10: very very real, with huge opportunity. He's supporting Ukraine more
36:48
Speaker 10: significantly than our previous president has done. He obviously wants
36:54
Speaker 10: to work a deal with Putin. He's been very patient
36:58
Speaker 10: with that. Some of us would like him to take
37:01
Speaker 10: a stronger stance sooner, but he's beginning to take that
37:04
Speaker 10: stance and hopefully we can bring that to a favorable
37:08
Speaker 10: conclusion for Ukraine. I know for a fact that he's
37:11
Speaker 10: not going to abandon the Ukraine. He may put pressure
37:14
Speaker 10: on him once in a while to make a deal,
37:16
Speaker 10: but he's not going to abandon Hi. He's going to
37:17
Speaker 10: continue to support them. And a major challenge we're facing
37:21
Speaker 10: his China. We started the program with that. He talks
37:25
Speaker 10: kind to them, but I believe in my mind he's
37:29
Speaker 10: still carrying a big stick here and he knows that
37:32
Speaker 10: we're behind militarily. The Defense Department is working very hard
37:37
Speaker 10: to catch up with all of that. And he had
37:40
Speaker 10: in his National Security strategy which I didn't completely agree
37:44
Speaker 10: with in terms of the tone and anti European tone
37:48
Speaker 10: it had, but he had strong statement in there about
37:51
Speaker 10: Taiwan and also how important the region was to the
37:57
Speaker 10: United States. So I do think he's turned leadership around
38:01
Speaker 10: in terms of American presence on a world stage, working
38:04
Speaker 10: with allies and partners, and certainly the perception that the
38:09
Speaker 10: United States is weak and vulnerable that we had for
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Speaker 10: the previous four years that has gone completely.
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Speaker 1: It's a very heartening summary. In general, Jack Keane, given
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Speaker 1: a lot of the criticism that he faces, it counters that, Look,
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Speaker 1: I've got to thank you for the value you've given
38:32
Speaker 1: this show, your insights this year very very valuable. Thank
38:37
Speaker 1: you so much, and have a great Christmas. We'll see
38:39
Speaker 1: you next year.
38:41
Speaker 10: Merry Christmas to you and your audience. And thoroughly enjoy
38:44
Speaker 10: talking to Andrew.
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Speaker 6: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: After the break drama, the upcoming Soccer World Cup being
38:52
Speaker 1: hosted by American and Canada and Mexico with two Muslim
38:56
Speaker 1: countries S eight no to organize us promoting data rights
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Speaker 1: at their game. News that made me wonder, where are
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Speaker 1: those crazy protesters now? Those Queers for Palestine protesting about
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Speaker 1: the war in Gaza. The place that was being run
39:22
Speaker 1: is being run by he's and mister terrorists who do
39:24
Speaker 1: have a history of throwing gays off buildings, But here
39:28
Speaker 1: were Gays for Palestine protesting for them. I ask about
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Speaker 1: them because I wonder whether they now think that maybe
39:36
Speaker 1: they were taken for a ride and they didn't quite
39:38
Speaker 1: understand what they were defending, and I wonder or maybe
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Speaker 1: maybe they'll also now support two other Muslim countries, Egypt
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Speaker 1: and Iran, which are now angry that their match in
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Speaker 1: the next Soccer World Cup in Seattle will include gay
39:56
Speaker 1: pride celebrations, which the two countries say, no, that is
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Speaker 1: not on. You can cancel that for a start, because
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Speaker 1: both those countries have criminalized gay x. Iran even has
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Speaker 1: the death penalty. Join me from London as Petrick Christie's
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Speaker 1: soccer fan and terrific presenter and GB News. Petrick Crissie's
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Speaker 1: always great to see you. Who's said you on here
40:19
Speaker 1: Iran in Egypt saying look, they're just there for the football,
40:23
Speaker 1: not political messaging, but from activist organizers. Or are you
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Speaker 1: on the side of the organizers who want to promote
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Speaker 1: gay rights to a couple of countries that actually persecute gays.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, tough choice this one, Andrew. I'm on the side
40:37
Speaker 11: of just play soccer. So by the time that we've
40:41
Speaker 11: taken the knee, acknowledged that the games are being played
40:44
Speaker 11: on stolen land, done a rain dance and thank the ancestors.
40:47
Speaker 11: I think we might see someone kick a ball.
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Speaker 1: What next?
40:51
Speaker 11: Are the French going to have to score an own
40:52
Speaker 11: goal straight from kickoff to apologize for the Norman invasion
40:56
Speaker 11: of ten sixty six? Are we're going to have an
40:58
Speaker 11: anti pillaging match between Norway and Sweden to acknowledge their
41:02
Speaker 11: Viking past? I mean, it's pretty comical stuff this. When
41:05
Speaker 11: the World Cup was in Katar, we had to respect
41:08
Speaker 11: their culture. People ignored the fact that stadiums have been
41:11
Speaker 11: built by slaves, the lack of women's rights. In twenty
41:15
Speaker 11: thirty six, I believe it is that the World Cup
41:17
Speaker 11: has played in Saudi Arabia. Will we hold a minute
41:19
Speaker 11: silence at the start of the game to remember all
41:22
Speaker 11: the people the Crown Prince has beheaded or the number
41:24
Speaker 11: of journalists he's executed in brutal fashion in places like Turkey. No,
41:29
Speaker 11: of course we won. This is ridiculous, suicidal self criticism.
41:33
Speaker 11: And you know it's no wonder that people are laughing
41:36
Speaker 11: at this. I mean, the Australians have got a slightly
41:39
Speaker 11: weird game as well. I think at the World Cup,
41:41
Speaker 11: haven't you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, we're We're also in Seattle and the
41:46
Speaker 1: organizers we're playing against the hosts, the US June nineteen,
41:51
Speaker 1: and the organisms decided to mark that event by celebrating Juneteenth,
41:57
Speaker 1: which is the apparently to mark the end of slavery
42:00
Speaker 1: in the US. And I wonder, you know, is going
42:03
Speaker 1: to be a gain some celebration in the games of
42:06
Speaker 1: Morocco and Tunisia for their own slavery past. Moroccos was
42:10
Speaker 1: much more recent and we didn't even have slavery in Australia.
42:14
Speaker 1: But or, as you know, slavery only a white person's scene.
42:17
Speaker 1: I don't get at Patrick.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, but this is it, isn't it. You know, we
42:22
Speaker 11: obviously will have to acknowledge all of our own wrongs etc.
42:25
Speaker 11: Even though some of them in the case of the
42:27
Speaker 11: Australians literally just don't exist. We will have to do that.
42:30
Speaker 11: But they'll bow down to this.
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Speaker 10: You see.
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Speaker 11: This is the thing because in the hierarchy of rights
42:35
Speaker 11: and the hierarchy of offense, Okay, basically, if you offend
42:40
Speaker 11: quite hard line Muslim nations, that is the ultimate no no.
42:45
Speaker 11: So I think that they're going to end up caving
42:47
Speaker 11: here and we're not going to be seeing you know,
42:49
Speaker 11: Iran versus Egypt celebrating any kind of LGBT culture whatsoever.
42:55
Speaker 11: So yeah, I think I think we couldn't really offend
42:58
Speaker 11: the Muslim nations, which is why frankly, we keep giving
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Speaker 11: them World Cups in the first place. You know, for
43:02
Speaker 11: this organization FIFA to claim about things that they care about,
43:05
Speaker 11: things like what we've been teaking about. Yeah, yeah, they
43:07
Speaker 11: could demonstrate that by not giving World Cups to places
43:11
Speaker 11: like Russia, Katara and Saudi Arabia. That would probably be
43:13
Speaker 11: a bigger statement than the odd rainbow armback.
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Speaker 1: Good point, Patrick, Now a very interesting intervention in your politics,
43:23
Speaker 1: and I think you well, you've demonstrated You've gone over
43:27
Speaker 1: to France and you've actually seen those boat people, you know,
43:33
Speaker 1: jump on these boats with French police just standing there
43:36
Speaker 1: watching them as they sail off to Britain in a
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Speaker 1: flood of illegal immigrants there. But now the man who
43:46
Speaker 1: pouls could be the next prisonent of France, the rug
43:49
Speaker 1: being anti immigration party leader Jordan Bardella. He's met your
43:56
Speaker 1: Najl Farage and said he'd helped to restore Britain's borders,
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Speaker 1: and not just those boarders either. How big is this
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Speaker 1: a move?
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Speaker 11: It's massive actually, I mean the only solution is to
44:07
Speaker 11: turn the boats back again. The Australias know that better
44:09
Speaker 11: than anybody else. But unfortunately for us Pound Shop Napoleon
44:13
Speaker 11: Emmanuel macran just hasn't been letting us do it. He's
44:15
Speaker 11: happy to take a billion pounds of British taxpayers cash
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Speaker 11: and just do nothing with it. I mean, going into
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Speaker 11: the next election, you could have a very interesting case
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Speaker 11: here where Nigel Farrage might be able to say that
44:27
Speaker 11: he is legitimately the only bloke with a solid plan
44:31
Speaker 11: because this supposedly anyway incoming French president is willing to
44:36
Speaker 11: do this boat's turned back business, but really only with
44:39
Speaker 11: Nigel Farage at the helm, so that on its own
44:42
Speaker 11: could be an election victory. But I mean, I think
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Speaker 11: we're probably going to come on to talk about this.
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Speaker 11: But we've had a recent case here. It was two
44:49
Speaker 11: Afghan migrants who arrived on a small boat have just
44:52
Speaker 11: been found guilty of raping a fifteen year old girl
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Speaker 11: in a park. And actually this is one of many
44:57
Speaker 11: similar cases and a normal country, Andrew would respond to
45:01
Speaker 11: that kind of thing, I think by turning the boats
45:04
Speaker 11: back immediately, But of course not here in Britain. We're
45:07
Speaker 11: going to have to wait for a French president to
45:09
Speaker 11: tell us that we're allowed to do it before we
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Speaker 11: see any action there.
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Speaker 1: Oh, that is a shocking case. A fifteen year old girl.
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Speaker 1: No one intervened by the way, which was pleading for help,
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Speaker 1: and they dragged her off to unaccompanied minus claiming to
45:27
Speaker 1: be seventeen years old, that jumped on a boat and
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Speaker 1: came over to Britain and caused this terrible trauma to
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Speaker 1: this girl. But you know, it's all very well, here's
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Speaker 1: a potential French president coming to rescue Britain. Britain isn't
45:43
Speaker 1: doing anything for itself, Patrick, because I can't believe these
45:47
Speaker 1: new figures that say that even when you've got illegal
45:50
Speaker 1: immigrants told they can't stay in Britain, forty percent of
45:56
Speaker 1: them still do. How does that happen?
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Speaker 11: It's the latest and a long line of devastating figures. Actually,
46:03
Speaker 11: it turns out that our Home Office has absolutely no
46:06
Speaker 11: idea where a third of asylum seekers are a third
46:09
Speaker 11: of the asylum seekers you've arrived in the last few years,
46:12
Speaker 11: we don't know where they are. You've got forty percent
46:15
Speaker 11: of the people that we've rejected are still here in Britain.
46:18
Speaker 11: We are also still paying for them. They're able to
46:21
Speaker 11: act as a special kind of benefit. Just four rejected
46:24
Speaker 11: asylum seekers, which I didn't know existed until yesterday. And
46:27
Speaker 11: also we've only deported less than four percent of people
46:33
Speaker 11: who've arrived by small boats since the start of the
46:37
Speaker 11: small boat's crisis. So if you are an a legal migrant,
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Speaker 11: you really do know that the odds are massively stacked
46:42
Speaker 11: in your favor for coming here to Britain and being
46:45
Speaker 11: able to stay here in Britain, don't you. I mean,
46:48
Speaker 11: it's an absolutely ridiculous situation that we've got.
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Speaker 10: At the moment.
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Speaker 11: And those people as well, by the way, who have
46:54
Speaker 11: just gone missing, there is a reason why a lot
46:56
Speaker 11: of them have gone missing. There was another report that
46:59
Speaker 11: said that one in every one hundred people living in
47:02
Speaker 11: these migrant hotels has either committed a crime, it's charged
47:06
Speaker 11: with a crime, or is wanted for a crime. So
47:08
Speaker 11: if that is you, why are you going to stick
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Speaker 11: around and wait for us to say that we might
47:13
Speaker 11: deport you one day? When you could just abscond, which
47:16
Speaker 11: is what's happening. There's also cases now of people who
47:19
Speaker 11: have been waiting for their asylum claims so long that
47:22
Speaker 11: they've managed to find a bride in Britain and have
47:25
Speaker 11: a child with them, which I'm sure all of these
47:27
Speaker 11: relationships are entirely genuine, above board, Andrew. But of course
47:31
Speaker 11: that makes it very very difficult for us to deport
47:33
Speaker 11: them again, doesn't it. So we are being gamed here
47:36
Speaker 11: every single which way you look.
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Speaker 1: It's just such an extraordinary story. Patrick. I won't see
47:45
Speaker 1: you next week. I'll be doing my last show on
47:49
Speaker 1: Wednesday someone else so hopefully will talk to you on
47:52
Speaker 1: the Thursday. But I've got to thank you for doing
47:55
Speaker 1: this show this year. I mean, I've really loved talking
47:57
Speaker 1: to you. But I'll tell you what I hope then
47:59
Speaker 1: you who's next year from Britain is a bit better
48:02
Speaker 1: than you've been able to fine for us this year
48:04
Speaker 1: because this is a country in decline, it seems. But anyway, look,
48:10
Speaker 1: not just seems if damn well is. And I hope
48:12
Speaker 1: that you get President Trump's message to buck up. So Patrick,
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Speaker 1: good on, you have a great Christmas, and I hope
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Speaker 1: to see you next year.
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Speaker 11: Thank you, and and I love to the family and everyone.
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Speaker 1: That's very kind of you. Up next Sherry Markson, good Night,