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3 Guys Before The Game - Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio (Episode 727) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Music's on, and that means it is time to go.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in everyone. Yeah, it's three guys before the game.
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  Speaker 1: Don't look now. But the summer series is, it's made
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  Speaker 1: the turn at the three quarters poll. It's coming down
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  Speaker 1: the finish line, and why not close it with a bang?
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  Speaker 1: We got a Dandy for you his annual visit. It's
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  Speaker 1: tough to get to him. I mean, there's layers layers
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  Speaker 1: of we are people that you have to go through.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there's they basically sets up a wall, starts
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  Speaker 1: for you, starts to go, starts at Goshen Road, and
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  Speaker 1: then you got to get by the next obstacle at
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  Speaker 1: that big ice cream scoop place in fair Mind.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta get through, of course, yeah, doing really brisk
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  Speaker 2: business right now.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, yes, they're the other.
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  Speaker 1: Get through using a Shinston. By the airport exit, there's
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  Speaker 1: a gate. And then finally you get to Florio's.
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  Speaker 3: Specific don't want to know where I live, please.
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  Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk dot COM's Mike Florio is with us.
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  Speaker 1: This is episode number seven hundred and twenty seven. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do what we normally do with Mike, which is
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  Speaker 1: everything we're gonna talk about football. Obviously, we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about his books, movie possibilities, got some kind our.
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  Speaker 2: Role in such. Gonna make sure that that's still still oh.
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  Speaker 1: Very good. Can we be? Can we be? What do
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  Speaker 5: but what like, when this started, it was just like
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  Speaker 5: some carport manufacturer down the road the whole show.
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  Speaker 3: Is you reading the sponsors?
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  Speaker 1: Dude? Are you kidding me? Like you talk about the
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  Speaker 1: pop calling the kettle blacks?
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it's assimilate. Are we required to carry
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  Speaker 5: one of these everywhere we go? Now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Is that the deal?
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  Speaker 1: We should tell Monster if they want in on three guys,
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  Speaker 1: we might have an opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: To put that away. They're not a sponsoral sponsor. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't your Mark didn't get give.
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  Speaker 5: Us forty nine cents on this damn thing just for
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  Speaker 5: a prop. I wanted to be carrat top.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, look, I don't want to I don't want
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  Speaker 6: to get anybody ahead.
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  Speaker 3: What but that just seems like a shitty deal. Sorry?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Now hold on, now, are you live twitter?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Now is this like a live direct It seems like
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  Speaker 3: not much money.
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  Speaker 5: It seems like not much money to slap that patch
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  Speaker 5: on everything, to desecrate the uniform.
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  Speaker 3: It just doesn't seem like.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, explain it to mister Floria, Please explain it
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  Speaker 2: all you want.
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  Speaker 1: Well, a couple of things, A couple of things.
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  Speaker 5: Tomorrow's bakery that's available, that's available, we could steal that.
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  Speaker 1: So the deal on the people some people that are
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  Speaker 1: losing their noodle on the Monster Energy deal is all
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  Speaker 1: Big twelve teams already had a Big twelve logo. So
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  Speaker 1: this replaces the Big twelve logo.
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  Speaker 2: Or supplements or supplement it might be woven within.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it's in. It's it's within, it's it's selfing contained.
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  Speaker 1: And now the university can still go sell it's which
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  Speaker 1: it will very shortly. Okay. So like you weren't making
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  Speaker 1: any money on the Big twelve logo, now you're going
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  Speaker 1: to make money on the Big twelve logo, of which
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  Speaker 1: a significant percentage will go directly to the school's nil.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'll leave it with this. If people are like
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  Speaker 1: saying that's a bad deal, that's a bad deal. You
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  Speaker 1: could have got more money. Okay, it has been shocked
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  Speaker 1: for well over a year, and like if you think
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  Speaker 1: your house is worth this, but it keeps coming back
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  Speaker 1: after a year and they say no, this is what
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  Speaker 1: people will pay. Then you eventually go like, that's what
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  Speaker 1: the market is bearing.
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  Speaker 5: If that's what the market's sparing, you got to get
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  Speaker 5: better salespeople when you consider how many schools are going
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  Speaker 5: to be eaten from that trough. If I saw the
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  Speaker 5: joke online, like the BYU version, is it going to
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  Speaker 5: have caffeine free under the play?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean they might have onefin.
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  Speaker 3: But it's conference why. That's what's so weird about it.
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  Speaker 3: It's conference why.
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  Speaker 2: But it's found money and it's non expt I understand,
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  Speaker 2: all right, let's move on.
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  Speaker 3: Understand that's enough.
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  Speaker 1: Prop was well played, You got your free.
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  Speaker 3: Now I got to drink the damn thing.
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I had to drink gasoline?
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  Speaker 5: Good?
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  Speaker 3: I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're sponsored down by.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know what.
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  Speaker 5: It's the summer of soccer. I've discovered the World Cup.
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  Speaker 5: I've watched at least seventy because it's the perfect thing
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  Speaker 5: for me to watch while I'm working because I don't
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  Speaker 5: have to pay constant attention to it. I can listen
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  Speaker 5: to it, I can work. You can sense when something
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  Speaker 5: important is coming, like a corner kick, your kick. I'm
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  Speaker 5: actually learning all the different terms. And if something big
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  Speaker 5: happens quickly, you can hit the button and you can
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  Speaker 5: flip it back fifteen seconds and you can watch it again.
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  Speaker 5: So I've really enjoyed it. And it's nice to have
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  Speaker 5: a sport that isn't attached to work and I can
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  Speaker 5: just enjoy it for what it is. And it's something
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  Speaker 5: that you know, when you're in your sixties, you don't
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  Speaker 5: expect to discover some new sport of knew something about it,
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  Speaker 5: but it all just something clicked watching these things and
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  Speaker 5: it just was and still is a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 5: Like I got to get out of here by two
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  Speaker 5: o'clock because I want to be home in time for
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  Speaker 5: the for the France Spain.
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  Speaker 3: Semi fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: He actually dug out his Liverpool jersey. Yeah, yes, is
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  Speaker 6: that correct?
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  Speaker 5: Somebody sent me a Liverpool jersey when I turned sixty
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  Speaker 5: because our shows on Sky Sports in England and there's
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  Speaker 5: a lot it's amazing per capita the NFL fans in England, UK, Ireland, Scotland,
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  Speaker 5: et cetera. They always get mad when I leave out
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  Speaker 5: one of the whales.
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  Speaker 4: Uh Northern Ireland.
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  Speaker 5: They are more passionate than the NFL fans in the
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  Speaker 5: United States. They engage more, and I think part of
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  Speaker 5: it is it's the whole scarcity thing. It's the way
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  Speaker 5: we were in the seventies where you couldn't get enough
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  Speaker 5: of it, and they're you know, they turn on the
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  Speaker 5: TV and somebody's throwing darts or whatever. You know, like
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  Speaker 5: they don't get as much NFL as.
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  Speaker 1: With all due respect to dart throwing, of course, do
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  Speaker 1: you think so? The numbers global numbers on television ratings
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  Speaker 1: for soccer are just off of the chart.
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  Speaker 3: The US numbers are off the charts this year.
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  Speaker 1: Are they are? That's correct? So long range, let's just
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  Speaker 1: say when we're gone, like fifty years from now, fifty
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  Speaker 1: do you think, well, in your case, several months, I
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  Speaker 1: thought i'd get a better joke off. Wow, it's probably
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  Speaker 1: just go. I thought, you guys, give me a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: I hope I die in the next three weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's a hell of a commitment to the bit.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think you committed, by the way, if that
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  Speaker 3: happens I'll bring it.
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  Speaker 5: I'll get him, You'll get them for the handle that
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  Speaker 5: I'll bring the monster energy to revive you.
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  Speaker 4: US Belgium had thirty million views on TV.
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  Speaker 3: And that was just the Fox Feed.
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  Speaker 5: That wasn't the Telemundo Peacock Spanish language thirty million.
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  Speaker 1: My question was, do you think soccer will ever reach
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  Speaker 1: like NFL football numbers in the United States?
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  Speaker 5: The game that was played against Belgium, the total numbers
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  Speaker 5: right ended up officially finally because they put out a
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  Speaker 5: preliminary number that's always lower than the final number. Just
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  Speaker 5: wait a few days and give us the final number,
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  Speaker 5: because then you get this preliminary number up there, and
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  Speaker 5: then we're trying to remember the numbers and it's all
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  Speaker 5: mushed in our brains. Just wait and give us one number.
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  Speaker 5: But the final number is fifty point one million. That's
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  Speaker 5: more than the average for the AFC NFC Championship games
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  Speaker 5: in January of twenty twenty six, and there were numbers
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  Speaker 5: before that that were on par with the NFL's Divisional
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  Speaker 5: round of the playoffs. Hell, the England Mexico game the
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  Speaker 5: night before US Belgium did incredible numbers.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a mainstream sport.
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  Speaker 5: When a regular season NHL game does worse than a
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  Speaker 5: UFL game, Soccer's mainstream. If hockey's still a mainstream sport
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  Speaker 5: and it's behind the UFL soccer closing in on the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: And look, it's a rare occurrence.
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  Speaker 3: It's not every year.
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  Speaker 5: And we'll see what happens when we start getting the
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  Speaker 5: numbers without the US in play. But you can't not
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  Speaker 5: call it a mainstream sport. It was fifty years ago
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  Speaker 5: when they first started to try to make soccer a
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  Speaker 5: thing in the United States, and it's been slow, it's
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  Speaker 5: been steady. It's taken a long time, but it's here now.
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  Speaker 5: And I know for me, I'm already starting to figure out,
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  Speaker 5: all right, when this is done, Like I gotta find
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  Speaker 5: MLS on Apple and then they've got MLS here and
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  Speaker 5: then Premier League comes back in August on the NBC
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  Speaker 5: family of networks, and so I'll have it charted out
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  Speaker 5: and anytime there's a soccer match on and I'm sitting
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  Speaker 5: in my office, I'll put it on.
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  Speaker 4: But by Dad, yeah, I mean I agree with you.
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  Speaker 6: But if this is a World Cup, which is like
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  Speaker 6: the Super Bowl of Super Bowl, yes, right, if you
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  Speaker 6: just take regular major leagues. So the numbers are like
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  Speaker 6: two hundred thousand, three hundred thousand something like that.
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  Speaker 5: Especially since they're on Apple TV SO and sponsored by
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  Speaker 5: Monster Energy.
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  Speaker 6: But by this, by the same token, what has the
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  Speaker 6: World Cup done to spur even more interest in soccer?
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  Speaker 4: I think that that's happened, right.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's more people like me saying, all right, now,
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  Speaker 5: where do I watch more of this soccer now.
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  Speaker 3: That the World Cup's over?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because the days there haven't been games, I've been
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  Speaker 5: pissed off.
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  Speaker 3: There wasn't a game Sunday or Monday. It's like, come on,
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  Speaker 3: let's go, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: Understand the ball I understand, I get it. The FIFA
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  Speaker 1: just did a horrific job with the pricing on those tickets.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there were empty seats in Kansas City for
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  Speaker 1: the Argentina gain, empty seats because the tickets were fifteen
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  Speaker 1: hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 5: Just FIFA is an inherently corrupt the organization that doesn't
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  Speaker 5: diminish the enjoyment of the sport.
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  Speaker 3: To what I get, it's called college sports.
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  Speaker 5: Right now, the people that want to complain about things
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  Speaker 5: that I say, and I do say, plenty of things
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  Speaker 5: that are worthy of. But you must hate football because
• 11:03
  Speaker 5: I criticized the NFL when the NFL deserves criticism. Well,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not criticizing the sport. I'm criticizing the people who
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  Speaker 5: are currently the stewards understood of the sport, yep. And
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  Speaker 5: if they're doing something that falls below the standard that
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  Speaker 5: the NFL films with the John Fesscenda voice and the
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  Speaker 5: ball slowly spiraling, and they created a standard that I
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  Speaker 5: want them to live up to. That doesn't mean I
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  Speaker 5: hate football. That means I love it enough to say, hey, NFL,
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  Speaker 5: you're doing some stuff wrong. And the same thing with FIFA.
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  Speaker 5: It's a lot easier with FIFA because it's like the
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  Speaker 5: whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: They look corrupt. Me Like when they show them up
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  Speaker 1: in the box, like they look.
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  Speaker 3: Away, it's like a Bond villain.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, they look oily.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But there was there was a turn.
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  Speaker 6: I thought there was a real unfortunate term because American
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  Speaker 6: soccer team was a great story.
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  Speaker 4: That was a great story until the red card.
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  Speaker 6: Trump getting involved and the United States went from being
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  Speaker 6: a great story to oh now, if you win, it's
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  Speaker 6: because the pres the United States intervened and if you.
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  Speaker 4: So I thought the.
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  Speaker 6: Story got fouled because of the President inserting himself.
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  Speaker 3: Do I need to choose my words carefully?
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  Speaker 1: Never have never do?
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  Speaker 3: We finally had one thing.
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  Speaker 5: We finally had one thing that he wasn't in the
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  Speaker 5: middle of. Wouldn't it be nice to have one thing
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  Speaker 5: that is completely unaffected by the chaos that has been
• 12:21
  Speaker 5: wrought upon all of us. Wherever you stand on it,
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  Speaker 5: you cannot deny that it has been eleven years of chaos.
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  Speaker 5: There was one thing that united us that he had
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  Speaker 5: not touched, and he found a way to touch it.
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  Speaker 5: It's like the Bizarro Midas touch, and he found a
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  Speaker 5: way to touch it.
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  Speaker 3: Now he thinks it's gold.
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  Speaker 5: It's something entirely different because he got involved and he
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  Speaker 5: screwed it up, and he took the chip off of
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  Speaker 5: our shoulder and put it on belgium shoulder. In one
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  Speaker 5: fell swoop, killed the vibe. One fell swoop. Ask any
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  Speaker 5: nick fan Game three? Yeah, killed the vibe.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, and that's me choosing my words carefully.
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  Speaker 1: Understood.
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  Speaker 5: I'll save the unfiltered version for under understood. And we're
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  Speaker 5: kicking back with a monster energy.
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  Speaker 1: We're in the middle, We're in the middle of July.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, camps are starting to as they're cleaning up
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  Speaker 1: the lockers, getting ready to open up the doors, and
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  Speaker 1: here we go. What do you think the most pressing
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  Speaker 1: storyline to this upcoming NFL season will be?
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  Speaker 5: There are many pressing storylines. There isn't one that stands
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: out above the rest. There's incredible turnover in the coaching
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  Speaker 5: ranks in the AFC, so many contenders have new head coaches.
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  Speaker 5: Zach Taylor is the dean of the coaches in the
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  Speaker 5: AFC North.
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  Speaker 3: He's the only one that survived.
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  Speaker 5: If he didn't have a buyout for this year, he
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  Speaker 5: probably would have been fired too. Would have been a
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  Speaker 5: clean sweep over for four wow with veteran coaches in
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  Speaker 5: the AFC North. But look at the pressure on the
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills. Immense pressure on the Buffalo Bills, immense pressure.
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  Speaker 3: On the Baltimore Ravens.
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  Speaker 5: Even with a new head coach. What are the Steelers
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  Speaker 5: going to be without Mike Tomlin. I think they're going
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  Speaker 5: to find all those people that are like, let's get
• 13:58
  Speaker 5: rid of tom one when they lose two or three,
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  Speaker 5: and where they're.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna find out. They're gonna find out.
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  Speaker 1: He's your note, he's your new work partner.
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  Speaker 5: They're gonna find out what life is like with that
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  Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin, because I think Mike Tomlin spent a lot
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  Speaker 5: of time covering up a lot of warts in that organization.
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  Speaker 5: We'll see, but I think we're gonna find out. And
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  Speaker 5: so there's all these different pockets of which way is
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: it going to go? You got the Chiefs with Patrick
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  Speaker 5: Mahomes coming back from injury and they didn't make the
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  Speaker 5: playoffs last year and a lot of people are overlooking them.
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  Speaker 5: You've got the Seahawks who look like every Super Bowl champion,
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  Speaker 5: looks like they're unstoppable.
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  Speaker 3: Could they pull it together again?
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  Speaker 5: They got a new offensive coordinator who knows second year
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  Speaker 5: were Sam Darnod at quarterback, who knows the MVP of
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  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, Kenneth Walker's gone.
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  Speaker 3: That's going to affect the running game.
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  Speaker 5: You've got the Rams, who people are getting ready to
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  Speaker 5: engrave the trophy and hand it to them with this
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  Speaker 5: idea that Aaron Donald may come back, and I think
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: he is coming back. I just think they're milking it
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  Speaker 5: and trying to create some phony drama. I think he's
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  Speaker 5: coming back. Everybody's gonna expect them to win. How many
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: times have we seen a team that we were just
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  Speaker 5: ready to hand the trophy to and they fail? So
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot. I mean, there isn't one in my mind.
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  Speaker 5: There's just a lot of juicy stuff that's leading into
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  Speaker 5: what could be a great and wide open season.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take Tomlin for a second. What's he bring to
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  Speaker 2: the TV side of things.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I can give you my one example of being
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  Speaker 5: involved with him in an NBC capacity. May the eleventh
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  Speaker 5: or twelfth was, And it's always the Monday, right after
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: Mother's Day, the upfront presentations NBC does. There's Monday the
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: other networks go as the week unfolds. It's basically the
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: opportunity to get folks like Monster Energy to commit to
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  Speaker 5: significant advertising avies far greater than the Big twelve deal.
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  Speaker 5: They would they would have said no, they would have
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: gone without.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Advertising before taking that deal.
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: And we had a meeting, and we always have a
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: meeting in the late afternoon before there's a dinner where
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: we have to go and schmooze and you know, act
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: like we want to be there.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Although I do want to be there, it's just we
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: have to act like we want to be there.
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  Speaker 5: But Mike Tomlin was in this meeting and he was talking,
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: and anytime he talked is the old F.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Hutton bit.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: Like everything he said was incredible, and I'm sitting there
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: thinking on two or three different things. He said, Man,
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: I hope he says this into a microphone. Oh, I
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: hope he says this into a microphone. And he said
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: a couple of things that he probably won't be able
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: to say into a microphone. But if he is that guy,
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: that's always the test, and you can tell right away
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: if somebody who has been a coach is truly not
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: going back versus a guy who's trying to keep a
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: foot in that boat, because you won't get the same
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: candor from the guy who's still trying to keep doors
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: open and bridges unburned. So and look, I I and
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: if Mike Tomlin is that guy, I'll say so. But
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's going to be that guy. I
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: think he's going to be the rare example of the
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: head coach who's done, who knows he's done, and who
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: doesn't care about getting a bunch of awkward phone calls
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: and possibly well, you know, I would have liked to
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: go coach the Bengals, but now they're pissed off at me,
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: and I got to work through that. It's all when
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: John Gruen's the best example. When John Gruden started on
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Monday Night Football. I thought this is gonna be great.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be chucky, and he's gonna be dropping f
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: bombs and they're gonna be bleeping him out and he's
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: gonna be pissed off at.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Everyone, and it's like where to go.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: Well, he was trying to keep his avenues open because
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: I may be coaching these guys, I may be working
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: with these coaches, I may be working for these owners,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: I may be working in front of these fan bases.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: I can't say anything that may piss anyone off. And
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: I think Mike Tomlin's not gonna got to worry about that.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: I think he's done, but I don't know, because he
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: can say I'm done and he hasn't told me that.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: But the way I read the tea leaves, I think
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: he's done. But once you.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: Start into a season and the train starts rolling without
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: after it's been such a big part of your life
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: for all those years.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: You thought you were done, and then you realize maybe
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: you're not.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: Sure, Mike, you were one of the few prominent NFL
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: journalists who were willing to report on the potential conflict
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: of interests involving then athletic reporter Anna Rossini and Patriots
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: coach Mike Rabel And you got criticized by a lot
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: of people. They said you were engaged in tambloid journalism, sensationalism, rumor, etc.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: You stood your ground, and obviously you proved to be
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: right and ahead of the curve in covering the story,
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: and eventually NFL reporters they couldn't ignore it after a while.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: So talk about that, why you were on that early
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: and why you felt journalistically it was a story, and
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: what you went through personally.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: And look, I appreciate that, and what I go through
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: personally doesn't matter, because I've grown a thick enough skin
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: that I don't care.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: As Charles Barkley says, as long as the check shows
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: up on the fifteenth and the thirtieth of the month,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I don't care what they say about me.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: But before I got dragged some for covering it, I
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: was getting dragged or not because I wanted to let
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: this thing play out.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I remember when the.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Photos first surfaced on a Tuesday afternoon in April. I'm
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: looking at the article, I'm looking at the photos, and
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: I'm like.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know what to do with this.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: And it wasn't until I noticed at the very bottom
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: of the story on the New York Post website that
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: there was a comment from Mike Rabel. There's a comment
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: from Russini, there's a comment from the Athletic. It's like, well,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: if they've commented on it, then that is enough to
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: get this thing moving.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: But early on there was a lot of speculation. There's
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: a lot of chatter.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: And it wasn't until she resigned and he spoke about
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: it publicly. And the New York Post had photos from
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: March eleven, twenty twenty, the day all hell broke loose
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: with the pandemic, of them at a bar in Tribeca
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: in New York City, and those had a.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Different feel all together than the first way.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: The first wave literally well they just yeah, but it
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: looked like a couple. The pictures other I mean everything,
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: but the interlocking fingers didn't look like a couple. The
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: interlocking fingers, I think was the thing that caused a
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: lot of people to say, well, this isn't just a couple.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Of guys hanging out talking about football.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: But I mean, I'll give you an example of how
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: I got dragged. The topic came up on PFT Live
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: and Chris Simms knows some things, has heard some things,
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: and I always try to be careful for him. I
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: don't want to get him in trouble by giving him
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: a platform and a runway to say something that is
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: going to possibly.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Cross a line that he was not aware of.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: And he was starting down the path because I know
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: what he knows and what he can't say, and I
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: knew he was starting to venture toward maybe saying something
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: that could have been a problem for him. And I said,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: quoting from The Great Star Wars the original episode four,
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: stay on Target, Stay on Target, and he's like, what
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: are you talking about? And he got pissed at me,
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: and it created this clip that was viral and people
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: were giving me a hard time and again, as long
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: as it checks show up, I don't care. And so
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: that was early right, and so I got dragged for that,
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: like I'm trying to and it morphed into.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: That you were telling the story you were say.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: I got Chris Simms fired from Football Night in America
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: because he tried, unsuccessfully to go down a path that
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: I told him not to go down. And I try
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: to get people to understand how stupid some of these
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: things are when you get some of the accounts on
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: Twitter that want to aggregate and sensationalize folks. I didn't
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: reach through four hundred miles and slap a muzzle over
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: this guy's mouth. He's got a podcast, he could have
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: talked about it. He's got a Twitter account he could
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: have talked about it. He's got an Instagram page, he
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: could have talked about it. In that moment, I was
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: trying to keep him from starting down a path that
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: could have been a problem. And you know, people believe
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: what they want to believe. So that was even before
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: I started to cover it. But once it looked like
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: something that needed to be covered and there was some
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: meat there, there was something to.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Analyze there, which was what well.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: I think it was this awkward situation between the New
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: York Times and the Athletic because the New York Times,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: which purchased the Athletic back in twenty twenty three, it
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: has applied its very high journalistic standards onto the Athletic and.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: It is very difficult to live up to the.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Highest of journalistic standards as crystallized by the New York Times.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: And once it became clear, all you had to do
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: was read the standards, and the photos from the resort
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: in Sedona, Arizona are enough to violate the standards because
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: you have to not only avoid conflict of interests, you
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: have to avoid anything that creates the appearance of a
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: conflict of interest. So that part became fascinating to me,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: This in house fight and this push and pool between
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: the standards that apply at the New York Times and
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: the standards that do or don't apply at the Athletic
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: and Hopy, I think that for the job of insider
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: the way it's become, I don't think the Athletic can
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: have an NFL insider because that job isn't a traditional
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: journalism reporting keep your distance at all times. There is
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: a certain element of cozying up to do that job
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: the right way. There's a certain amount of conflict of interest.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: So you're at the front of the line when a
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: big story is happening, when a contract is going to
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: be signed. You want to be on that short list
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: of people that gets the text message you have to
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: compromise your integrity to be one of those people. The
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: mere fact that you're getting that text, you've already compromised
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: your integrity and you're not a journalist.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: So that, to me is where it became interesting.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: I don't care about the did they have an affair,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: didn't they have affair? And all this other stuff that
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: other people have talked about and we haven't even mentioned.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: What I care about, and what I think is very.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: Interesting is the New York Times trying to navigate this
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: minefield of journalism because you've got a lot of people
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: at the Times who are looking at the Athletic thinking
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: they get to operate at a lower standard than we do,
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: and we don't like that. So this is a very
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: clear example of that battle between the two publications. And
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: it's still brewing because the Athletic is investigating the situation
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: and they've yet to announce the results of their investigation
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: internally or externally.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: See, we've tried to tell Hoppy that because he wants
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to be he wants to scoop Pete Thammel all the time,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and we try to tell him, Hoppy, these guys, man,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: they just operate differently it's a different world out there.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: It is, it is, and I've lived in it, and
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: I tapped out of the herd that aspires to tell
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: us about something five minutes before it's announced. Jay Glazer
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: told me fifteen years ago, ninety eight percent of what
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: we do in this space is not journalism. Two percent
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: is find out the stuff that they don't want us
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: to know. That's the journalism. Everything else is just an
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: advance on the press release, and you become external p R.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Miles Simmons, who works with us at PFT, he said
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: on PFT Live he worked for the Rams and he
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: worked for the Panthers directly before coming to work for us.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: He said, and I think this was with the Rams
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: that the protocol in house was all right, we're going
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: to announce this contract five minutes before we do. Schefter
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: is going to report it. You know, they just put
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: out that memo internally, here's.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: And you're you're absolutely right.
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: And these guys have tried to tell me this all
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: the time, and but you know, I'm of a little bit,
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: I'm adjusting, of a little bit. I'm of a different
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: generation where for.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Years Mike A.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: Scoop lasted a while right now now, a scoop lasts seconds.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Second because it gets announced see a lot, and every
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: once in a while there will be a transaction that
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: happens that they kept under raps and nobody knew about it,
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: and nobody tweeted it five minutes before, and the team
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: just announces it on its own. But I think the
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: teams recognize it is a wasted opportunity to curry favor
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: with the people who have the big megaphones, and we
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: need them to be happy with us, and we need support.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: They work for ESPN, and ESPN pays the NFL billions
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: every year, and the NFL owns ten percent of ESPN.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: So there's a very deep rooted symbiosis there. And I
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: believe that the insiders, as they have currently evolved today,
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: they are external pr for the league and the teams.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: When there's some issue where the NFL sends out a memo,
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: I know exactly what they're going to send it to.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: They're gonna send it to one of the NFL networkingmployees.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: It's basically an announcement through somebody who isn't directly employed
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: by the NFL.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: What the industry needs, in my opinion, is the entire
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: industry of sports journalism needs more journalism and less insider.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: I got the scoop five minutes.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Tru're right, And if you engage in real journalism, you
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: hate football. That's the problem.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: If you go after the stuff that they don't want
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: to stay up and you want to go after the
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: stuff that, I mean, Pablo Torri has to deal with that.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Last year, Pablo Tory and I hit the first domino
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: that resulted in the NFL Players Association executive director resigning.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: We kicked that up by digging out of the woodwork.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: And I'll keep it simple. There was a ruling and
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: a collusion grievance. It was fired by the union against
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: the league that had been hidden by everyone for months,
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: and I became determined to find it in Pablo and
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: I worked together and we found it.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: And once we started pushing that.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Doom doom, doom, doom doom, out goes Lloyd Howell, the
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: executive director of the union.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: And yeah, the reward for that beyond.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: The pulitzer that Pablo god, I mean, he could like
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: soft piece of it. Is there a leg on it
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: that he could send me? But you get you must
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: hate football, right because you're not. And this is the problem.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Fans don't want their enjoyment of sports to be.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Interrupted by the issues and the problems and the underbelly
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: that could maybe drag the sport down. And they're not
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: willing to sit and understand that these things, if they're
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: not properly exposed and changed, will have an effect on
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: your enjoyment at some point.
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  Speaker 1: to go back to coaching. You think that.
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  Speaker 3: That's my own opinion. That's my opinion, all right.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: And you think all these coaching changes are going to
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: make for a great deal of great storylines going into the.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Season, and these new coaches, if they do well, will
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: put more pressure on other teams.
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  Speaker 3: Ten coaching changes out of thirty.
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  Speaker 5: Two ten well, and you think about what you can
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  Speaker 5: do to turn over a team quickly.
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  Speaker 3: The salary cap makes it very difficult to fire your
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: whole team.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: It's a hell of a lot easier to fire all
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: your coaching sure, and so if these guys do well,
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: that's going to put even more pressure.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: On some of the other existing coaches.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: You've done this for a number of years, how many
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  Speaker 1: years have you been quote unquote covering in the NFL now.
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  Speaker 5: Twenty six as of June, and the launch of Pro
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  Speaker 5: of this year.
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  Speaker 3: I expect bread.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they'll take care of that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I'll forget the silver I want bread.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: What excites you as the circus gets ready to start.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Again, Well, there's this promise of anything can happen, and
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: we have no idea how it's going to go. We
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: spend all off season trying to figure it out, and
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: we don't know until it's time. And what happens is
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: once it starts going, all that time that we had
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: in the offseason to really think things through and react like,
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: there's no time to react. You're just trying to keep
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  Speaker 5: up with it at that point, and especially with games Sunday, Monday, Thursday,
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: it's difficult to reset. Now they're going to have games
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: we start on a Wednesday. This year, they would like
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: to have more standalone games. I think they'd like to
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: have a game on every night of the week if
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  Speaker 5: they could, And I think the networks would probably like
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: it because what else is anybody watching live on network
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: TV than live professional football?
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: But I just think it's this promise of anything can happen,
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: and there will be things that change everything. There will
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: be injuries that change a team's fortunes for the season,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: there will be controversies that we can't even begin to
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: think about, and you just sit back and you'll wait,
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: You'll wait. I always say, the first Sunday of the
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: regular season, with all those games that start at one o'clock,
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: it's like running down the steps on Christmas morning and
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: all of your presence simultaneously opening themselves. But once you
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: get it into that flow and the rhythm is established,
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: after two or three weeks, you just let's just ride
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: it and let's see what happens.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: And it goes by so fast. Same thing with us,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: same thing with us.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the business of both college sports in
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: the NFL for a second. So college sports is what
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: it is right now, lots of chaos going on. Two
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: part question, what does the NFL think of the college
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: model now? Could it be NIL players staying longer, the
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: new five for five potentially keeping guys in college longer,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: and then tie that into specifically the Soresby incident, and
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: what the NFL's involvement thinking was about that particular piece.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: I think the NFL doesn't mind the fact that the
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: players are now getting paid, because that is one less
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: change that the player has to manage when he comes
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: to the NFL. With a lot of these guys, what
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: happens when they get money? Are they going to be
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: different when they get money? Well, now they have money,
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: and when they come to the NFL, you know what
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: they're gonna do when they have money. I know that
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: for some there's a concern that if they think they
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: have enough that they don't really have to try hard,
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: they don't have to work for the second contract. But
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: that really hasn't mature to the point where there's even
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: an example anyone can point to. But boy, he would
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: have been great if he just would have put more
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: into it, but he was too.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Satisfied with all the money he made in college.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: That hasn't come up yet. I think it's more you
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: get a fully formed human. Now you get an adult,
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: something closer to an adult, because you're really not an.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Adult until you're twenty five.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: And then when you get twenty five, they tell you
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: you don't listen to you until you're thirty.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: But but you have that reality of money that I.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: Think makes it a little easier to project what a
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: guy's going to be as it relates to Soresby. Look
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: this whole thing, and I got strong opinions about what
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: the NFL did here. I'm not surprised, but I am
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: surprised that they slammed the door in his face on
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: the supplemental draft because the way the rules are written,
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: there isn't a purity test, there isn't an integrity test.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: It is a very simple proposition.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: If you not eligible for the draft in April, and
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: in the interim between April and July you become eligible.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: For the draft, you apply for the supplemental draft.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: And there's never been a time where they have said
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: to a person who was eligible for the supplemental Draft, now,
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: we don't feel like having a supplemental draft this year.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: And they hid behind some language that suggests it's up.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: To them whether or not to have a supplemental draft.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: And yeah, on paper, we don't feel like having it.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: We don't have to do it. But when you develop
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: a pattern in practice, you have to continue. That's basic
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: labor management reality. If you have a pattern in practice,
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: you need to continue. The problem is the NFLPA stayed
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: out of it because the guy's not in the union yet.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: So if you fight for a guy who's not in
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: the union, he gets drafted, who loses his job somebody
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: who's already in the union. So they stayed out of it.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: But they work behind the scenes to secure an agreement
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: that the NFL won't try to keep Sores be out
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: of the draft in twenty twenty seven. But this is
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: a tough issue for the NFL because the NFL has
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: profited tremendously from the Wild West era of gambling. We're
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: still in the Wild West era. There is a desperate
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: need for regulation. Everyone is just stuffing money in their pockets.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: We'll worry about the reckoning when the reckoning comes. Now,
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: let's just get as much as we can and keep
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: our heads down and keep grinding away at the money.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: And the NFL is part of that.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, you're gonna wag a
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: finger at a guy who's never broken an NFL rule,
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: and if anything, who's developed an addiction that is direct
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: product of the product that you market and that you've
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: made millions from marketing and partnering with and you know,
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: everyone's carrying this thing around. I had a nephew who
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: turned twenty one last year, and as he's doing the countdown,
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: it wasn't you know, why are you counting down so
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: you can go get a beer?
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: No?
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: I mean I've got an idea, well why are you
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: counting down to twenty one? Because I can get the
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: I can get the apps and start betting. So I
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: just think that the sports and the media that get paid,
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: and there's a lot of my out there going to
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: the pockets and the media, and I get it indirectly.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: I don't have a deal with gambling interest in NBC does,
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: but I think we got an obligation to really understand
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: how we've created this world where it is so normal,
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: it's so normal to pick up your phone and place
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: a bet, especially when it doesn't feel like it's a
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: financial transaction. Any Time I get an uber, I feel
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: like it's free. You press a button here, it comes
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: a bar. And I think kids feel that way when
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: they when they put bets on whatever app they happen
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: to be using.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: More I saw a staff this morning.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: More people in last year, more people bet than read
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: a book. A higher percentage bet than read a book.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: But anyway, Oh, that doesn't surprise me at all. All right,
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: so does anybody read anymore? Well, that's actually it's a
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: commentary road for this week. And the answer is no,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: and I.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Make sure to not read it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: I think I just screwed.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: Myself on that, didn't I okay, Well, let's let's go
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: back to stories of be here. Because the way the
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: Soursby thing was resolved and saw anything, it just kind
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: of kicked it to next year.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: And so it was a pound of flesh.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: There was this perception there needed to be a punished
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: and this was this was the pound of flesh that
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: everybody wanted from this kid.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Where I'm headed, though, is to the legislation of you.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: And I texted back and forth on that, and I
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: thought that the framework of the bill, which is under
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: several but the one is getting most attention was really
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: was fundamentally sound, not perfect, but fundamentally sound. And you
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: texted back, well, but it doesn't take into account the
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: players and their voice. And that's a valid point. I
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: Brad just made that point too, and I agree with that.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: But there's been a lot of people that just say
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: it's not going to pass.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: It not going to pass. It's not going to pass today.
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: There are college presidents in Washington talking with senators, and
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: these aren't presidents from the SEC or the Big ten
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: that are trying to get this thing moving. I mean,
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: isn't it better, Mike, to get something moving and get
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: a framework in place, to get an anti trust protection
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: for the nc DOUBLEA, to get some of these rules
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: in place, to have some standardization. So rather than everybody's saying, well,
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: there's no chance for this to pass, try to pass
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: it and try to.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Make it as good as possible. Shouldn't that be the
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: right approach.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Let's focus on the term antitrust protection for a moment.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Oh, here we go, and the NFL has an anti
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: trust exemption first broadcast rights, and some would say that
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: maybe the time.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Has come for the NFL not to have it. Let's
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: just understand what an anti trust exemption is.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: Going to law school with lawyer, is any lawyers listening,
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: You can try to apply for cl credit and if
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: you get in trouble, that's your problem. So an anti
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: trust exemption is a license to violate the antitrust laws
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: which have been put in place to create a level
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: playing field in American business. And every once in a
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: while here comes someone who says, hey, can I get
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: a dispensation so I don't have to follow the rules
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: everybody else has to follow. That's what That's what the
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: college system wants. And here's why they want it, because
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: they blatantly violated the anti trust laws for decades.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: And one of my regrets, I would have had a
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: hell of a case.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: I would have been retired in Italy somewhere right Sicilylbria, Colabria.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: The potential for the anti trust cases that have rocked
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: the NCAA to its core had been there, hiding and
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: planing sight. They created the NCAA as the umbrella for
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: their anti trust violations because when somebody comes to campus
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: and says, well, yeah, I'd like to play for your team,
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: but you know, I'd also in addition to room board,
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: tuition fees and snacks, I'd also like fifty thousand dollars.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Well, we can't do that. NCAA rules prevent it.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: So they they gathered independent businesses together under the umbrella
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: of the NCAAA and the rules anti trust violations.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: So that's that's the thing we need to keep in mind.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: They want someone to waive a magic want so they
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: can go back to violating the law.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Okay, you're the warrior. I have to defer to you
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: on this.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: However, you have to have just like you said the NFL,
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: you have to have some protection Otherwise, if you don't
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: any ruling anywhere, you just get the judge is the
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: graduate of the university to say, ah, that rule doesn't apply.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: You can play.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: So you have to have some standardization and some protection
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: for the rules right and in the legislation correctly if
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: I'm wrong, there are some exceptions. There would be exceptions
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: in certain cases. But you got to have some legal
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: standardization and protection correct of any organization.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: Well, if you have federal preemptive force that prevents individual
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: state laws.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: From infringing upon it.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: They're going through that now with the whole prediction market
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: and gambling thing.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: And the prediction market's a product of.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: The CFTC and it's regulated by the federal government. The
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: preemp state laws. That's playing out in courts across the country.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: But let's address the one thing too. Everybody just assumes
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: that in every major college town there's a corrupt judge
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: sitting there just waiting to sign his or her name
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: to whatever the local college wants to do, and I
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: hope we have one here, but but no, there's just
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: a presumption that the law goes out the window. Now,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of play in the joints of the
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: law and sometimes and fairness is a matter of your perspective.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: You believe you've been treated fairly if you get the
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: outcome you want. But this idea that every ruling is
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: necessarily a bastardization of the facts and the law. The
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: problem with Soresby, though the judge did a four page
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: written ruling that didn't explain how he checked the boxes
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: for a preliminary injunction that forced the NCAA to let
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: him play. He should have done a twenty page ruling,
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: have a clerk write it up and explain how and
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: why the NCAAA didn't follow its rules properly to justify
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: this relief. That's the problem if and I guess that's
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: the big takeaway. If it's a judge in Morgantown, if
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: it's a judge in Tallahassee, if it's a judge in
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: any other college town in the country, and you're in
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: a position where you're banging the galvel when you're helping
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: the local team. Take the time to explain yourself. So
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: people like me who are inclined to say, let's not
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: just assume they're all corrupt. You got something you can
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: stick your teeth into and say, this is why the
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: judge did what the judge did.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Don't you agree that this doesn't get resolved? Into Hoppy's point,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: he says, can't we just start with a framework. We're
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: not going to get to a point of a good
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: relationship between university and Cuba and student athletes until what happens, Mike,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: the NCAA and the in the schools finally acknowledge that
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: the student athletes are the generators of their revenue and
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: until they quote unquote share it. And I know we
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: have revshare now, but really truly bring them into the equation.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to get any kind of civility.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: Every once in a while you hear people like Nick
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: Saban and I watched all of the hearing when he
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: was before Congress talking about this.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Lamenting the fact that college football doesn't have a commissioner
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: who can make these rules.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: Well, the NFL. The NFL got an anti trust exemption
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: for broadcast rights. It earned its anti trust exemption for
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: its labor force because federal law allows if you are
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: what's known as a multi employer bargaining unit where you're
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: drawing it's a highly specialized, skilled class of employees and
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: multiple companies are hiring out of that same unit, you
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: get an anti trust exemption there. And that's the thing
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: that allows the NFL to have a draft, to have
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: a salary cap, to have a franchise tag, to have
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: trade rules. Any of those things without the union are
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: anti trust violations. The existence of the union gives them
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: the ability to not worry about the anti trust laws,
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: and that's what college sports needs now. I understand there
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: are issues with state employees unionization Title nine, but doesn't
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: it make more sense to examine the laws that would
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: allow it to be done right way and not just
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: say we're gonna wave the magic wand and give you
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: a partial anti trust exemption. Because at the end of
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: the day, look, this is as simple as I can
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: put it. They don't like the fact that the rabbit
• 44:09
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I asked you heard you raised your eyebrow when
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• 45:51
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• 45:54
  Speaker 1: if he had to sit down, he could eat five
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  Speaker 3: I've only ever made to he you actually completed the
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  Speaker 3: There's no max weight.
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  Speaker 1: You told us in the past that you used to battle.
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  Speaker 5: Wait a little bit, I've I've fluctuated and there was
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• 46:42
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  Speaker 3: That was when a kid huskies. I just had to
• 47:17
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• 47:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know what, when you see pictures from
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: back then, and I don't want to make any social
• 47:23
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• 47:26
  Speaker 5: back then was kind of normal now, like I'd have
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  Speaker 5: been doing great right now.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: I'd be right there. I'm right in the wheelhouse. All
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  Speaker 3: these skinny little.
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: Bastards running around in the seventies, like like, hey, kid,
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: eat a Hamburger. Pictures I see from the seventies. They're emaciated,
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: and that was normal. That husky husky was frowned upon.
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  Speaker 3: I know what we were, the kings.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's a corduroy husky pants.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: No, because when you walk, you start a fire.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, anyway, and then they wear a hole them, Yes,
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  Speaker 5: Mom had to put patches on the hole I wore
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  Speaker 5: in the crotch of my corduroy huskies.
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  Speaker 5: up to get But I have personal experience with Tudor Biscuits.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: It was right by the house. We'd do the whole
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: go to church. I'd run over to Tudor's Biscuits on
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: a Sunday morning. Yeah and yeah, I would eat two
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: and then take a nap. I think the nap time
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: you do one hour or maybe one and a half
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: hours for each biscuit you eat, so if I did
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: the full two, it was a three hour.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Now, let's get away from football momentarily. Give us an
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: update on your books.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I don't know. I brought one
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: of each one in case anybody needs one.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Of your back's getting better. You just reached over and
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: picked that thing up.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I got.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Lucky you're coming. You are kind of like Gallagher. You
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: just bring you about a bag.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: Of strap top unless you got a watermelon around and
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: I can hit it with a hammer. I brought a
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: copy of each one just because I don't know who
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: has what if anybody needs one. But but here's where
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: we are. Right now, there's a new one. And what
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: I've been doing every year is I will manufacture, publish
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: on my own. I love that process. No editors, I
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: have full control. I can decide on you know, the
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: like for the Father of mine, my my nephew, Anthony's
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: each did the covers for all these.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: But you can. You have no one telling you what
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: to do. It's great.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: I don't like being told what to do. No one
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: tells you what to do. Well, document, now, welcome into
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: my world. Now I have one that my agent thinks
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: is pretty good, and it may be because it was
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: his idea generally to point me in this direction. So
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: he's in the process of shopping the manuscript to a
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: select group of editors to see who bites and.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: More importantly, for how much. And it's called accessory after
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: the fact.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: And it's a tale of a former NFL player who,
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: in his quest for that feeling of competition, decides, even
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: though he doesn't need the money, he goes to law
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: school and he does well enough that he lands a
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: job with one of the bigger firms in Pittsburgh, and
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: he gets home on his first day from work, gets
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: into his house and he finds a former teammate who
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: is at a minimum security prison who just walked away
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: and is hiding in his house, and it all goes
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: haywire from there.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: So that one that could be a movie.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Well, it could be a series, it could be anything.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: For now, I just want to make it a book
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: and we'll see if we can get the right kind
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: of deal because it one thing I've learned, if you
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: have a book in bookstores, it tends to do better
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: than if you're just pushing it on a website to
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: buy the copies through Amazon. If it's in bookstores it
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: even nowadays where people think nobody goes to bookstores, they do,
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: they do, And if it's in bookstores, it's going to
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: do better. So that's what we're trying to do. So
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: that's the that's the thing that is like on the
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: tee now and we'll see what it does. And it
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: hurts me because this is about the time of year
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: i'd be putting the finishing touches on whichever book is
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: going to be available in August or September, but.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Not this year.
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: So hopefully if we do a deal by Labor Day,
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: hopefully by next year that'll be available.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: What about that short you gave us last year? That
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: was a huge tease because I don't think you proclaimed
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: upfront that it was a short.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: It was very good.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Got into it.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I wanted more, there wasn't.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: More, and it just ended.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, what's happening there.
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: I struck a deal with a production company know as
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: Platinum Dunes last year to develop that into a film.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: And one thing that I have learned about Hollywood, it
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: is amazing anything gets made years. It is amazing anything
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: gets made. One year later. We are no farther along
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: than we were, but there's been work. I have tried
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: to develop.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: It into a treatment, a beat sheet and learn all
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: these terms, learn how to do all these different things.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: I haven't written a script for it yet.
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: The guy that I'm working for at Platinum Dunes has
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: been talking to a bunch of different directors and writers
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: and people who would get involved and do it. I
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: had a meeting with a pair of brothers who have
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: directed some fairly recognizable films, and they did their version,
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: their adaptation of the Summons, and they went on for
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: about fifteen minutes. This was back in April, and after
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: they were done, like what you think, it's like, well,
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: it sounds like a interesting story, but it's not.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: What I wrote. Where's the thing I wrote?
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: And when I talked to the guy from Platinum Dunes,
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: I said, I'm just not I mean, like, this is
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: my this is my thing.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: I don't want people I know to.
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: Go see this movie and say, hey, man, I read
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: that story, like what the hell was this thing I
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: just watched?
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: So I'm willing to be patient with it. But here's
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: what it sparked. Because it is a short story.
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: Once I wrote that one, I thought, well, you know what,
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: maybe I write another short story. It kind of explores
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: some subset of the horror horror genre. And I've got
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: six done now. I started the seventh when last night,
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: and I wanted to get ten and then we'll throw
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: that together and sell it this compilation, so that that's
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: kind of fundy.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Were all scary there, Well they're not.
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, they're like, one's a werewolf story, and I
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: try to just do it like my own spin, like
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: we've all seen werewolf movies. Let's come up with a
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: different kind of a werewolf movie. Let's come up with
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: a different story werewolf like a monster energy patch exactly.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: Let's come up with a different look at a ghost story.
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: Let's come up with a different look at And I
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: have one. It's called The Collector. I've tried to completely
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: reimagine vampires and zombies and slap it into one story.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: And a guy named Ron Bass, who was one of
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: the two writers of rain Man, wants to work with
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: me to develop that into a film or a series
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: because we're represented by the same agent. So that part
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: is kind of cool because I'm getting to know this
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: guy who wrote one of the all time great films,
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: won an Oscar for it, and I'm getting all sorts
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: of Rainman trivia, Like he wanted a different ending than
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: the ending in the film. He wanted Charlie, the character
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: played by Tom Cruise, to get on the train and
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: leave with Raymond, as Raymond was going back to Walbrook
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: and Cincinnati.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: So I'm picking up all sorts of little rain Man trivia.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: But we may be working together to develop that.
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: And it's a because you know, you think about vampires,
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: I haven't, okay, do you spend do you sit zero,
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: sit around? Okay, okay, think about the vampire concept, folks, follow,
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: There is an immortal being. There is an immortal being
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: that can only be outside at night, that for its
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: soul sustenance drinks the blood of other creatures. There is
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: something about the blood of those creatures that magically allows
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: these creatures to live forever. And the whole thing is
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: stupid when you think about it. So I've developed in
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: the Collector. I don't want to give away too much,
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: but what if there is a creature whose compulsion is
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: that that creature extracts the humanity, extracts the essence, extracts
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: the soul of another being, and when it does, what's
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: left is basically a wild, feral animal, because once you
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: take the humanity out of the shell, what's left, And
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: so that the vampire's one end, the zombies the other end.
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: Because what happens is the main character this woman who's
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: working in an emergency room and a guy's been brought
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: in after a motorcycle accident. She thinks that he's dying,
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: so she tries to collect the soul at the right
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: moment of a body that's already going to die. So
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: it doesn't go create havoc somewhere. While she collects this
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: guy's soul, he comes around, he escapes, and he starts
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: ripping through this town and killing people, and it's her
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: and another person to try to catch up to it
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: and get him.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: So that's the gist of the story.
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: So I just, like, you know, I like to find
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: a thread and just start pulling it, and I get
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: one idea and I sit down and I feel like
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: what happens is the story takes me by the hand
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: and just directs me wherever the story wants to take me.
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: And that part of it, there's no words to describe
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: that feeling when you're being led by the hand by
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: this inanimate thing that is just taking you wherever it
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: wants to take you.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: So you basically you've morphed in Stephen King.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: Now, well, but just for that, I just want to
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: do the book of short stories.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: What about courtroom stuff?
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: No courtrooms?
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: So that's what that's what accessory after the fact is
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: a courtroom thing.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, other than that the werewolf and vampire stuff, that's
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: a whole separated.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: The courtroom thing is the demonic possession angle. So that's
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: how I got down that horror genre. But there's no
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: there's no yet in the collection, there's no other courtroom stuff.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: But what movie are we in?
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: What movie are we going to be?
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: In the summons? But oh, I got one more? I
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: got one more? And this this is as my agent said,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: this one fits with.
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: Therezit gest and it dovetails of what we were talking
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: about earlier year or so ago. Because I've written a
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: few scripts, and that part's fun. When you write an
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: hundred thousand word novel, you sit down to write script,
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: that thing flies.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: It's like one hundred and ten pages and you're done.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: And it's very it's a combination of creativity, and it
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: has to be very mechanical. You've got the direction, you've
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: got you know, you're setting up the scene. You've got
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: here's where they are. But a year or so ago,
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: I thought there would be a potential film idea.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: It's based on the.
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: Insiders that we were talking about earlier and how they operate. Right,
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: So I wrote the first act with about thirty three
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: pages and I finished it and I knew this is
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: the end of This is the end of act one.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: And it's funny when you watch.
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: A movie you don't realize act one, act two to
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: act three until you start paying attention to it.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: You know when act one and you just know.
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: But they're very big, the Hollywood people are very big
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: on everything, having three acts, act one, act two, act three.
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: So I finished Act one and I forgot about it,
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: literally forgot about it. That's the thing. I've got so
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: many of these things going and I'm probably impaired now,
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: but I forget what I've done. And earlier this year
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: I was like, hey, you know, I looked looking through it.
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: I see the final It's like, I just look at
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: that again, and I read through it and it's like, shit,
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: that's not that bad. Usually when I go back and
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: find something, it's like, oh man, oh man, delete that,
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: delete that, expunge that. Don't tell anyone you wrote that.
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: But it's like, this is pretty good. And then all
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: the Russini stuff happened like right after that. So I
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: had a meeting with my agent in May and we
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: were just going over different things that we have going on,
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: and he said, well, you got anything else happening? And
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: I told him about Insiders. It's a working title, and
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: he said, well, shoot, that sounds good. Send me what
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: you have, and I sent it to him and he said,
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: your top I already should be to finish this. So
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: I finished a draft three weeks ago, all three x,
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: all three acts done. I sent him a draft three
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: weeks ago. He called me two weeks ago and he
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: had a great, great set of notes.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: That's what the cool kids call it in the business,
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: not edits.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: I've read it, had some notes. I'll give you my
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: notes on your script. But I incorporated all those last week.
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: I sent it back to him, and now I'm just
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: waiting to hear from. But there's already a producer I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: know who wants to read it, who says this is
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: this may be exactly what we're looking for one and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: then it'll take you know, ten week that one. It'll
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: take that one, Yes, okay, it'll take I'll gladly agree
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: to it because it's never going to happen, but it'll
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: take ten years for nothing to happen. But this one's
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: good because I think, because of the moment, if someone
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: would buy it now, I think they would work to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: get it made. Now now is the time time to
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: do it. But I'm uniquely situated to understand that world
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: and how to craft the story and uh yeah, so
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: so that one's so we got accessor after the fact
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: that maybe in bookstores hopefully by next year. And then
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: we have Insiders, which may be in theaters.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: That's a really good update. Next update, fantastic, dude. So
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I was getting a little concern that you're moving away
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: from the family business of organized crime, like, don't go
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: away from that.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: There's a third we got Father of Mine. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: we got Son of Mine.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: That was great.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: There's a third one that's ready.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I just have to title.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: I got to pick a spot I liked.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: I don't like to it's our it's our Italian nature.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: I don't want to put the foss show you by
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: disclosing the title.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Italian nature, like you are in the one percentile of
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: the Italian nature, Like you.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: Are good or is that bad?
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I mean your hyper Italian nature. And by that we
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: mean like Italians don't say anything. They don't want people
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: to know this. They don't want people to know that
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: you are at the absolute because they're going to come
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: get you exactly right, and they'll give you. They're gonna
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: put them to point the Milacci at you.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: Don't point that, my dad, listen My dad.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Used to get so pissed when he would watch My
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: dad from Italy, right didn't grow up in sports. When
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: he would see Texas people do their horns. Don't point
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: it this way. It infuriated them because that's like, if
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: you do that to somebody, you're cursing them. That's a
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: curse you put it, don't don't don't point them when
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: you put them. All I could tell you story I
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: have him.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: I have a milochio. I have an NFL milochio story.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you about when we're done. But coincidentally, coincidentally,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: short story number seven, which seven may be good except
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: when it's not good. Sometimes seven is lucky, sometimes seven
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: is not lucky. But short story number seven is named milochio.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: Started it last night?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: Oh my, what's the first sentence?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Sat down?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: They were the best of times.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: It's something because it starts with the guy asking Chad
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: Gpt to tell him what a milochio is because he
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: was out to dinner and an old woman told him
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: to be careful about the milochio.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: And he isn't familiar even though he's Italian, he's not
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: familiar with you.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: You want a short read, you want a short read.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: This is highly inappropriate. Do you want to hear it?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Yes? This is from a draft. No, no, I want
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: to do it. I should have you do it first.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: First, A read first, waits and gentlemen, read.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: Just one line.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: We're over selling it, We're horrible. Okay, this is just
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: one line, and this is unedited draft.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: But we understand.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: But it made me laugh. And this is as the
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: main character tries to understand Milochio.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: It sounds like Pinocchio's twin with a bad attitude. He
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: doesn't want to be a real boy. His nose doesn't
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: grow when he lies. He schlong does.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Now that would be an interesting Disney movie. You have
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: to edit that out.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: No, we don't. But the molly the ma a l
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: andla al means bad, Molly bad.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: So that's that he's gonna get mad that I read that.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Well, she's fine, it's it's art.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: She was raised.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be the bizarro Pinocchio?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah? By the way, where are we going to be extras?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: You know? Bobby Tanello to the Feast of the Seven
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Fishes movie out of Pharamont, Yes I do, he said
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: we could be. I can be an extra in his
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: next movie.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: We've met.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: I've met, not we I have met with him and
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: his brother, and we've talked through some different things we
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: can do together. Because for me, one of the fallback
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: options for the summons is just say, you know what, I'll.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Pay for it myself.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, look at obsession seven hud and fifty grand, four
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: hundred million worldwide.
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  Speaker 3: I'll pay for it myself. We'll shoot it.
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  Speaker 5: Shoot it in West Virginia, shoot it in the court
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  Speaker 5: room in Harrison County, right, work all the right people
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: behind the scenes to get it done.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's do it.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Feast of the Seven Fishes. Fantastic if you haven't seen that,
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  Speaker 1: three guys before the game is wrought to is by
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  Speaker 1: Lou Wendell Marine Sales, the largest pontoon deal but pontoon
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  Speaker 1: boat dealer in West Virginia. They're also the only Honda
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  Speaker 1: is the season. We're in the midst like we're in
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  Speaker 1: like the peak boating season right now. If you need service,
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  Speaker 1: if you need a new craft or accessories, there should
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  Speaker 1: probably be like a pro football talk inner two raft.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, swag.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: You guys don't do much swag.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: We have a shop.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: We have a shop that I forget to drop in
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: the links so people can buy the stuff. But we
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: do have some swag. We do have some swag. You
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: just have to go look for it. There's a PFT
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: shop link on the website.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I was in Maine last week, a lot of boats,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: If you're running for office up there looking for candidates.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: No, no, I did shoot the bush compound from the road.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: Be careful how you say that?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: Rephrase that? Yeah, the picture of Did I send it
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: to you hoppy?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: How big is that thing? Oh my gosh, holy he Anyway,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: why didn't you send it to me? You were on
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: you were in your little place. I didn't want to
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: bother you. Thank you, But it was stunned when I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: was in the little marina there. How many lu Wendel
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: boats were in Candida percent of them so lou wend Alan,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: even the lobster boats, all the lobster boats were there. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: you don't talk about something that's expensive. I told Hoppy
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: this morning, lobster.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: Roll it's everything. Yeah, you told me it's big as.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: A hot dog roll right, thirty five bucks.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty six, JESU thirty six. A lot of MPs
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: on their menus there market price, yeah, a lot of
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of MPs.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Now, how does that? How does that work? Do you like?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Where is the market that determines the price.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: It's like coffee, Like, hey, Georgie, how much we charge
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: in today? Twenty five pound? That's what it is. Collusion.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, just what you talked about earlier. I mean
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: they set the price right, demand, demand of it. Mike.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: One of the reasons I think you are successful in
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: your career and in writing is that you're just fearless.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: You just write it. You're not sitting there thinking, I
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 6: wonder if you might was gonna lie? I wonder, I
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: wonder what did you just?
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: You just go?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: You think you think you do? You think you think
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: too much when you write?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think at all?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: What about him?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: I don't What about you?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Do you think you think you write too much? When
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: like you do your stuff?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, too busy.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: I don't have time to sit and stare at the
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: screen and figure out what I'm going to say next.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: That's why I think I've developed an ability to generate
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: books and scripts and short stories fairly quickly. And my
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: wife will say from time to time, how about focusing
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: on quality over quantity.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: I mean this is because, I mean, your wife's awesome.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I get gout.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: But if you write a lot.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: But if you write a lot, I mean you can
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: you can separate the week from the champ later on.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Well, right, ude, that's the thing.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: It's always on the second pass, the third pass. You
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: write it, you set it aside, and then you go
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: back to it later. Usually after three or four months,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: I've become sufficiently detached from it that I can go
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: back and just rip up whatever it needs to be
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: ripped up. But twenty five years of you sit down
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: at the computer and there there's an urgency to get
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: content posted because there are people out there that want
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: to know what's going on. So there's been a development.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: Aaron Donald is coming back. Okay, got to write up
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: a story on Aaron Donald is coming back, and it's
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: got to be more than Aaron Donald is coming back.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: Not a long enough story. So you got to get
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: your thoughts out.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: You got to think of what is going to be entertaining,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: what you want to add to it, what perspective you
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: want to add, what wrinkle, what issue what, And you
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: just get it done and you go and then when
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: you're done, you go to the next one.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: Then when you're done, you go to the next one.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: And I've stretched the rubber band at the point where
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: I can write anything anytime, and I just go and
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: you worry later whether it's any good through the editing process.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: But once you once now, as it relates to content
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: at PFT, it gets published minutes after it's done. There
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: is no cooling off period because the commodity is time.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: We got to get this up. We got to get
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: this up before someone else does. So, yeah, it's I
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: think it's not fearless. I think it's ambivalence.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: I think you just get to a point where you
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: don't get bogged down by the other stuff that you'd
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: worry about. You just trust that you have a basic
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: level of competence and you just go and you blame
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: it on that thing that takes you by the hand
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: and takes you wherever it takes you.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you sleep and if so, how much?
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I have been.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: We're on a six week break right now from PFT Live.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean anything because I do PFTPM podcast
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: every day and I'm still posting every day. It's just
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: I don't have to be up and on at seven am.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: I can sleep later, which means I still get up
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: at the same time. I do without an alarm set
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: every single freaking day, so I try to do now
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: it has become and this is probably unhealthy. Five to
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: six at night, sometimes a little less, and one to
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: one and a half max in the afternoon. But here's
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: why I don't like it. Naps are good, I don't hear.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: I don't five and six probably isn't good for you.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: I don't like coming out of the nap. I don't
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: like having to deal with twice in the same day.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: The oh man, I don't want to get I don't
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: want to get up. I don't want to you know,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: like they're just fighting to get out of bed. And
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: the reason I stopped taking the naps.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: You're doing the nap in bed. Yeah, couch?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: What why would you nap on a couch? We have
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: a bed in your house? I've gotta I've got.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: I've got it. I've got to get wet. We got
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: a guest room.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: We got a guest room with the old twin beds
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: in it, and there's something to be said about crawling
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: into a twin bed exactly.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: You know, that's a nap time.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: So I started avoiding the nap because is this herniated disk.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: The whole getting out of bed and getting started was
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: so painful. I didn't want to have to do, so
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: I stopped taking the naps. So like, I took one
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: yesterday and I just didn't feel right the rest of
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: the day. So I'm gonna start trying. I'm gonna start
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: trying to bypass the nap and go for six and
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: a half to seven every night.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: That's new.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: What's the caffeine intake level for you?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: A cup of coffee in the morning and sometimes the
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: second one?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, what time in the morning does the second
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: one arrive first?
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: Long after the person? I don't like stale coffee? And
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: Isn't it funny that a cup of coffee there is
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: a temperature below which it is the most disgusting liquid
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: that you could, like, you would spit it out if
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: you put it in your mouth, but one degree higher,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: it's fine. But and I don't know where that is,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: but it happens just like that zero.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: I like a I'll be.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: Complete since we're I mean, since we're friends here. No
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: nobody knows anyway, love, My ritual is have a cup
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: of coffee and then for focus, you're putting those in.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Really, that's a stunt that stuns me.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: Why are you stunned by it?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: It is not just it is not just let me
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: tell you. Here's here's what happened. I started finding these
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: round cans in the house a couple of years ago.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: It's like, what is this in? What is this?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: Is this is this vaping? Like what is this?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: Because the vaping thing showed up on point all these
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: little batter it's like no, no, no, no, that that ends.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: That ends now and that ended quickly. But it's like,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: what is this?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: And I started doing research about all nicotine has got
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: no tobacco, well, all the bad stuff with nicotinees in
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: the tobacco. So I gotta do a little research about
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: this because I was We're at the beach or something
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: and having a couple of.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: Drinks and somebody gave me one of those ins and
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: it's like, hey, this isn't pretty good. So I went
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: for my physical last year and I asked my doctor
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: about it, and he said, all those are fine. I
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: have one in.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: What is It's a little pouch of nicotine. Oh, without
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: the tobacco. All the carcinogens are in the tobacco. It's
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: a little white pouch and.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: It's got a nicotine in it.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: Now, the problem is certain flavors will like irritate my mouth.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: So I gotta do coffee and only coffee. So after
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: my coffee, I'll have the coffee's in and what it's done.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: Because I I've been a big over the past ten
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: years cigar guy, to the point where three or four
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: a week, and I even feel like it's hard to
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: be conscientious about your health and smoke cigars. If you're
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: gonna smoke cigars, you just gotta say screw it. I'm
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: just smoking the cigars. If I get cancer gout, that
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: guy can worry about it wherever it happens.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: So it's like, man, I'd really like to cut back.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: Z I'm one a week now, one cigar a week?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: How many zens a week?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: Well, they're not carcinogenic, so we don't have to have
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: that conversation. At least we don't know yet.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Do you keep it in your mouth while you're drinking
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: the coffee? Yeah?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right after break with it's the coffee. Yeah yeah,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: it's just a liquid.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, don't we don't create some mouth situations and it's.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: Fine, it's fine, but personal.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Do we know anybody bread that's using this?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: Can we get Zen as a sponsor?
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: We do?
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: I'm aware of it in the marketplace.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I was not familiar.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: With It is a it is something that is Oh
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: and it's reinvigorated the tobacco companies.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: Nobody's find cigarettes or buys in by Zen's.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: But I mean, really, if it is an alternative, if
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: it is what they tried to make us think Skull was,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: remember the commercials for Skull Garrison. They tried to make
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: you think it was a safe alternative to smoking cigarettes.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: While the actual strands of the tobacco product with tiny bits,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: so they say a fiberglass in them cut on a
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: microscopic level the inside of your mouth to more effectively
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: deliver the addictive chemicals into your bloodstream, that those are
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: perfectly safe Yeah, Earl Campbell used to Earl Campbell Grison.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: We Garrison was a big ad, but he was an
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: influencer for him.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: Yours time. I was fourteen fifteen. We were fishing. Now
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: you started with gold up, We're up and wheeling. I've
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: been wheeling.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: We fished the big Wheeling Creek. We had different spots
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: we'd go to. Sure, so somebody shows up with gold
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: river and you try.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: It, you know it's mild. Somebody shows up with skull.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: I remember there was a day in the summer of
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: nineteen probably seventy nine or eighty, standing out waiting while
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: we were fishing.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: Put that skull in, and the whole.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: World, let your head up, went like that.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it went like that, Like am I going to
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: drown in two feet of water? That's a hell of
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: a story to tell. Yeah, my son drowned because he
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: he had a reaction to skull.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: It was too good.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: So that was off of that.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that suffs nasty. And then Copenhagu.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: Every someone smell Copenhagen is how does anyone put that
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: anywhere in contact with their boss?
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: As soon as they opened that cannup, you can get
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: a whiff of that real quick.
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  Speaker 2: See this is why we like him coming. You think
• 1:16:01
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  Speaker 1: That'll be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: That's going to be great.
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  Speaker 1: You're really I think you're no.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going on the road every week this year.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: And they're letting me pick and choose.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: Where I gouriously each week.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: And I get to pick and choose, what does that
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  Speaker 5: mean some weeks I'll stay home and I'll do the
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  Speaker 4: You have a minimum number of appearances you have.
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  Speaker 3: To make any It's up to me how many thinks
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  Speaker 3: you're going to do? Half of them.
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  Speaker 5: I've already gone through it half of them. They want
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  Speaker 5: me to go Seattle week one, first game of the year,
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  Speaker 5: and I figure, I'm already going to be out flying
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  Speaker 5: cross country. I'll just go to New York for Week
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  Speaker 5: two at MetLife Stadium, or week or the Sunday of
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  Speaker 5: Week one. Excuse me, but then I'll say, you guys
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: got the Wednesday game. We've got the Wednesday game, and then
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: the Sunday.
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  Speaker 6: Where will you be I mean physically doing your pieces
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: in this location.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: Well, when I'm on location, I'll be in the stadium
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: on the sideline wherever they tell me to go, and
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: then when I'm at home, I'll be sitting at I've
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  Speaker 5: got two spots and there's a camera that spins one
• 1:18:06
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  Speaker 5: be sitting at the one.
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  Speaker 3: It's got a monitor behind it, and by day I'll
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  Speaker 3: watch the games.
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  Speaker 5: They'll feed the games through that monitor, and then at
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: night they'll put whatever sponsors up or whatever the background
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  Speaker 5: is behind me and I'll just sit there. Twenty one
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  Speaker 5: and twenty No. Twenty and twenty one. During the pandemic,
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  Speaker 5: I was home every week. I did it from home
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  Speaker 5: every week. You know, I'm running into people and they'll say, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I saw on Sunday night.
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  Speaker 3: Do you do you do? Do you do that from home?
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  Speaker 5: No? I I travel fifteen hours every week. And if, like,
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  Speaker 5: if people are gonna think I'm at home, then shit,
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  Speaker 5: I'll just stay home.
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  Speaker 1: No, I get you. So does the does the upstairs
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  Speaker 1: talent mingle with you guys in the Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah we see. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Oh they're great. They're great there. I mean they don't
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  Speaker 5: they don't like you know, No, there's no there's no
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  Speaker 5: like clicks or hierarchy. It's all happy family. Mike Urico's awesome.
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  Speaker 5: Chris Collins were it's awesome. You know, I'll see them
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  Speaker 5: every week now. I'ppy Discoveredory go really so years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Mike was a student at Syracuse and Happy used to
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  Speaker 1: be in charge of calling in string string of reports.
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  Speaker 1: So other games will be going on, Hoppy be at halftime.
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  Speaker 1: It's all right, Syracuse taking on Temple right now. Second
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  Speaker 1: quarter of action. Let's get an update. Here's Mike Turrico. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: and Tarico on the phone gives it the thanks Hoppy
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  Speaker 1: with five twenty two to go here in the second quarter,
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  Speaker 1: and Hoppy went like, who in the world is this dude?
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  Speaker 3: You can tell?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, instantly I thought he's really good. And you know what,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: he is really good. He's like the best.
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  Speaker 3: What do you do anything?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: What a year he's had anything, He's the best.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Mike, Tony just got a national award.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Oh what would you get there, Mike Florial award?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's funny. No, what did you get?
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  Speaker 1: Woody Durham voice of college Sports. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Congratulations he was.
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  Speaker 1: The voice of the tar Heels.
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  Speaker 3: That's great, great national Yeah, that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 6: And Mike, he gave good I watched his speech acceptance speech,
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  Speaker 6: and it was like two and half minutes and it
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  Speaker 6: was perfect, just checked the boxes appropriately, got everything covered,
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  Speaker 6: just like, really good job.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things I pointed out in that speech,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: so this is true. We went Sunday afternoons. We'd watch
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: NFL games in our dorm, Watson Dorm. So here's who's
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: in the room. Here's who's in the room watching games.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Because we're all in the same within two years of
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: each other. Sean McDonough right would put headphones on like this,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: put the cord in his pocket and parade around imitating
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Bill Parcells. Dan Horde, who's the voice of the Cincinnati Bengals,
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bearcats. Jim Jackson who's the voice of the Philadelphia
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Flyers on TV, Greg Papa, longtime voice the Raiders, San
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine Ers, Rich Samini, ESPN, New York Jets guy.
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  Speaker 1: Just those guys alone were in the room, all those
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  Speaker 1: guys sitting in there, and we would sit there and
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  Speaker 1: we would just rip the announcers going like, guys ter
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: or better than that.
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  Speaker 3: That's good, that's really good. Well, congratulations, that was good.
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  Speaker 1: It was good. It was good. They're running out of
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: people and just when was it two weeks ago?
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  Speaker 3: That's pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks the invitation. I wouldn't have gone.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no no. I brought uh my statistician, Jeff
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: Campbell came down. He's been with me for over thirty years.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So I do the speech, Hoppy, do the speech, it
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  Speaker 1: pointed out. Get my family's here, da da da da
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  Speaker 1: da dah. Get back to the table. I thought, okay,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: speech went well. Joel looks at me and goes for
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned soap so soup. Campbell, there you go. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for being with us, dude, it's my pleasure.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. Can't wait another year.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: I can't wait.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: I told Brad on the way in.
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  Speaker 5: There are these moments in the course of the calendar
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: that mark the passing of a year. And when you
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: do them, yeah, you feel that year pass in the
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: blink of an eye.
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  Speaker 4: Oh. Write that down.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: It's frightening, it's it's scary. Yeah. And I think as
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: we get older, we have to enjoy every single second
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: of it even more. We fully appreciate it. I think
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: more now.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: Once you get a herniated disk, you realize.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: So you were you couldn't even move you were debilitated.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: Initially it was only a problem, what not.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: Only I could sit and I could sleep.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 5: But when I tried to walk, I was ninety five
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• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: I tried to go straight up, it was too much pain.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: It got to the point where all I could do
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: was sit, and I was constantly having to move to
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: find a spot where it wasn't hurting. And that was
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: Saturday the thirteenth, and our cousin took care of me medically.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: He came over and checked me out, and he'd got
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  Speaker 5: that helped me tremendously. And then I got on the
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  Speaker 5: I got the connection in Pittsburgh, and.
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  Speaker 3: Man, but that was you know, you take for granted.
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  Speaker 5: How it feels to feel fine, Yes, until you feel horrible.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah,