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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Todd Zinser, Eric Conroy · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five oh five, fifty five KRC the talk station. Happy Friday, Si.
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  Speaker 2: Tion.
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  Speaker 1: There we know it's Friday. There's a woohoo from Jobs Trucker.
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  Speaker 1: He's the executi producer of the fifty five Carsity Morning Show.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Brian Thomas, host of the fifty five
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  Speaker 1: Cassey Morning Show, and I Love My Friday. Is tech
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  Speaker 1: Friday with Dave Hadter is a great reason for that
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  Speaker 1: coming up at six thirty water utilities in multiple states, hacked,
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  Speaker 1: cybersecurity incidents. People looking towards the Chinese Communist Party, maybe
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  Speaker 1: the Iranians for that one. Either way, hacked means bad,
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  Speaker 1: bad things. Watch out before you buy that TV streaming stick.
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  Speaker 1: And finally, Meta used AI to target workers with medical
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  Speaker 1: conditions for the purpose of laying them off. Okay, Todd
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  Speaker 1: Zenzer Citizen Watchdog. He is the host of Citizen Watchdog
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  Speaker 1: podcast produced by Joe Strucker. He is former Inspector Jenner
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  Speaker 1: for the United States of America. He has nothing to
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  Speaker 1: do in retirement, so he found something, and that is
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  Speaker 1: looking at all the shenanigans going on in and around
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  Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati. Government shenanigans. Todd Zinzer in Studio eight oh
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  Speaker 1: five Eric Conroy. We need somebody to beat Greg Lansman.
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  Speaker 1: Eric Conroy's that man. He'll be in studio to talk
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  Speaker 1: about the race against Greg lan Landsman and why Eric
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  Speaker 1: is a much better choice for us. And finally Jack
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  Speaker 1: Windsor from the Isigo Press network TikTok TikTok, counting down
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  Speaker 1: the days for the election, Socialist housing policy and the
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  Speaker 1: cost to Ohio families. And finally the Houston versus Brown
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  Speaker 1: race that's coming up at eight thirty five, one three, seven,
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  Speaker 1: four nine to fifty five hundred, eight hundred eight two
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  Speaker 1: and at the risk of running a little bit long.
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  Speaker 1: Mark Giannini brilliant man he is. I've never heard of
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  Speaker 1: him before. He wrote an article about socialism and connected
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  Speaker 1: it with COVID nineteen. It's in real clear markets if
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  Speaker 1: you want to find a copy for yourself. But such
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  Speaker 1: an important breakdown. I thought it was worthy because look
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  Speaker 1: right in the rear view mirror, we got a glimpse
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  Speaker 1: into what you know a socialism here might look like,
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  Speaker 1: beginning with a quote from Thomas Soul that I found independently.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you Adam Keller for pointing that on you. But
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  Speaker 1: this quote out Thomas Soul, the brilliant man he was.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous
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  Speaker 1: way of making decisions than by putting those decisions into
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  Speaker 1: the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Always say you're the best person to make decisions in
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  Speaker 1: your world. Do not offload the decision making because bad
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  Speaker 1: things happen. Right here we go back to the COVID
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  Speaker 1: lockdowns gave America a glimpse of socialism. Next time a
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  Speaker 1: candidate promises a greater government control will make life safer, fair,
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  Speaker 1: or more secure, American should remember twenty twenty. They should
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  Speaker 1: remember the closed schools, shuttered businesses, restricted churches, isolated families,
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  Speaker 1: arbitrary mandates, and government checks intended to compensate people for
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  Speaker 1: livelihoods the government had interrupted. COVID was not socialism in
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  Speaker 1: the strict tech book textbook, since government did not nationalize
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  Speaker 1: most businesses or formerly abolished private property. But pandemic gave
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  Speaker 1: him Americans they were revealing glimpse of the governing instinct
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  Speaker 1: behind socialism. Central authorities replaced millions of individual decisions with
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  Speaker 1: government orders restricted private activity in the name of a
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  Speaker 1: collective good and made citizens dependent on public assistance to
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  Speaker 1: endure the restrictions government imposed during the frightening opening weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, with limited information and an unfamiliar virus, Americans
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  Speaker 1: accepted extraordinary restrictions because they were told the measures were
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  Speaker 1: necessary and temporary. The problem was how quickly temporary precautions
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  Speaker 1: became a system of control, and how slowly the government
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  Speaker 1: surrendered that control. Officials decided who could work, which businesses
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  Speaker 1: were essential. They determined whether children would enter their classrooms,
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  Speaker 1: congregations could enter their churches, or families could visit utterly relatives. Restaurants,
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  Speaker 1: jim salons, theaters, and neighborhood stores were closed or severely restricted. Weddings, funerals,
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  Speaker 1: worship services, and private gatherings were regulated by executive order.
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  Speaker 1: To a governor or public health officials. A restaurant or
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  Speaker 1: gym might have appeared non essential to its owner. It
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  Speaker 1: was income, retirement savings, personal identity, and perhaps a business
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  Speaker 1: intended for the next generation. There was nothing non essential
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  Speaker 1: about it. Private ownership means less when government decides whether
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  Speaker 1: the owner may open the doors, employ workers, or serve customers.
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  Speaker 1: The deed may remain in private hands, but practical control
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  Speaker 1: is shifted to the state. The same pattern reached schools.
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  Speaker 1: Parents did not individually decide whether remote instruction was best
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  Speaker 1: for their children. Government agencies, teachers, unions, and school systems
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  Speaker 1: made the decision for them. Students and families bore the
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  Speaker 1: consequences through lost learning, social isolation, and the enormous strain
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  Speaker 1: on working parents. Government also intruded on religious worship. Churches, synagogues,
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  Speaker 1: mosques closed or severely restricted, sometimes while liquor stores and
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  Speaker 1: large retailers remained open. Americans were told that they could worship,
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  Speaker 1: or when they could worship, how many could attend, and
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  Speaker 1: even whether they could sing. Forgot about that one, didn't you.
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  Speaker 1: First Amendment did not say religious liberty applies only when
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  Speaker 1: public officials consider it convenient. Yet during COVID, constitutional freedoms
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  Speaker 1: were treated as privileges that government could suspend or later restore.
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  Speaker 1: Many rules imposed under the banner of science were actually
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  Speaker 1: emergency judgments supported by limited evidence. The six foot distancing
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  Speaker 1: rule reducing business capacity and complicating school reopenings. Yet another
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  Speaker 1: Fauci later said he could not recall how that exact
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  Speaker 1: distance had been selected. It sort of just appeared, is
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  Speaker 1: what he said, Masking policies often showed the same lack
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  Speaker 1: of discrimination, treating crowded indoor settings much like solitary outdoor activity.
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  Speaker 1: California authorities even pursued and arrested a lone paddle border
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  Speaker 1: during a beach closure. Such episodes revealed what happens when
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  Speaker 1: officials become so certain of their authority that questioning a
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  Speaker 1: rule is tree as rejecting science. Public health asper experts
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  Speaker 1: were qualified to explain medical risks, but they were not
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  Speaker 1: qualified to decide how much education, economic independence, religious liberty,
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  Speaker 1: and personal freedom should be sacrificed. Those were political and
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  Speaker 1: moral decisions that belonged to elected representatives and the public.
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  Speaker 1: Yet following the science became a way to avoid that debate.
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  Speaker 1: Science could help estimate the risk of infection, It could
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  Speaker 1: not decide whether a child should lose a year in classroom,
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  Speaker 1: whether a family business could be destroyed, or whether a
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  Speaker 1: dying person should be separated from loved ones. Those decisions
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  Speaker 1: required balancing competing risks and values. Instead, one objective reducing
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  Speaker 1: the spread of the virus was often allowed to overwhelm
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  Speaker 1: nearly every other consideration. The economic response reinforced the same
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  Speaker 1: pattern of centralized control, and this is where the rubber
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  Speaker 1: I think meets the road. The government restricted private commerce
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  Speaker 1: and prevented millions of people from earning income. It then
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  Speaker 1: stepped in with forgivable loans, enhanced non employment benefits, stimulus checks,
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  Speaker 1: and other assistants. Some support was necessary. Government could not
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  Speaker 1: prevent people from working and then simply abandoned them, But
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  Speaker 1: the arrangement exposed the deeper danger. Government first displaced private
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  Speaker 1: economic activity, then made citizens and businesses dependent on public
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  Speaker 1: money to survive the restrictions it had imposed. That is
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  Speaker 1: the government instinct behind socialism. Decisions move away from individuals, employers,
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  Speaker 1: and markets toward political officials, who determined which activities may continue,
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  Speaker 1: who qualifies for assistance, and how resources will be distributed.
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  Speaker 1: The government that closed the business became the government offering
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  Speaker 1: to save it. The government that interrupted the paycheck became
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  Speaker 1: the government mailing the check. Dependence was not an accidental
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  Speaker 1: side effect of the restrictions, it predictable result. Socialism is
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  Speaker 1: commonly sold as a promise of security. Government will protect
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  Speaker 1: the people from illness, unemployment, high prices, inadequate housing, and
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  Speaker 1: economic uncertainty. But protection requires authority. The more responsibility is
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  Speaker 1: citizens surrender to the state, the more power of the
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  Speaker 1: state claims to direct their choices. COVID gave Americans the
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  Speaker 1: practical demonstrations of that bargain. Officials promise safety and claimed
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  Speaker 1: the authority to regulate work, education, worship, travel, medical decisions,
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  Speaker 1: and private gatherings. Every restriction was described as temporary, necessary,
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  Speaker 1: and imposed for the common good. That is how centralized
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  Speaker 1: control usually advances. It does not arrive by announcing that
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  Speaker 1: freedom is being abolished. It arrives through promises of safety, fairness, expertise,
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  Speaker 1: and temporary necessity. Each expansion appears reasonable when viewed alone. Together,
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  Speaker 1: they transfer control of everyday life from the citizens to
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  Speaker 1: the state. This was not solely a democratic failure. Officials
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  Speaker 1: in both parties Mike Dwine expanded government power during COVID,
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  Speaker 1: which is precisely why the danger is larger than any
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  Speaker 1: one party or politician. Lesson is especially important today because
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  Speaker 1: democratic socialism. Socialism is gaining influence within the Democratic Party Democrats.
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  Speaker 1: Socialists of America is not formally the Democrat Party, but
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  Speaker 1: its candidates generally speak seek office rather through Democratic primaries.
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  Speaker 1: The movement is candid about its objectives. Its constitution calls
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  Speaker 1: for quote popular control of resources and production close quote
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  Speaker 1: and quote economic planning close quote its national endorsement standards
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  Speaker 1: expect candidates to identify publicly as socialists, support the organization's platform,
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  Speaker 1: and view themselves as socialist organizations first and legislator second.
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  Speaker 1: Americans should take those declarations seriously. COVID showed that showed
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  Speaker 1: what centralized direction can look like. Before government formerly owns
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  Speaker 1: private property, officials may leave the deed in an owner's
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  Speaker 1: hands while deciding whether the business may open, whom it
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  Speaker 1: may employ, and whom it may serve. They may leave
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  Speaker 1: churches and schools nominally independent while determining whether people may
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  Speaker 1: even enter them. Not every Democrats a socialists, and not
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  Speaker 1: every government program is socialism, but a movement seeking to
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  Speaker 1: transform more economic and personal decisions from individuals, families, businesses,
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  Speaker 1: and communities to government is no longer operating only at
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  Speaker 1: the political margins. It is winning elections and attempting to
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  Speaker 1: reshape one of America's two major parties. The Constitution was
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  Speaker 1: designed because the founders understood that concentrated power, even when
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  Speaker 1: accumulated for supposedly benevolent purposes, threatens liberty, separation of powers,
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  Speaker 1: federalism property rights, religious freedom, and due process are not
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  Speaker 1: outdated obstacles preventing government from helping people their protections against
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  Speaker 1: officials who are certain when they know what is best
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  Speaker 1: for everyone. Liberty is more than a freedom to do
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  Speaker 1: what experts recommend. It includes the right to operate lawful business,
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  Speaker 1: educate one's own children, worship own property, question authority, and
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  Speaker 1: accept reasonable risks without first obtaining government permission. Socialism promises
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  Speaker 1: security through collective action and centralized direction. The pandemic revealed
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  Speaker 1: the other side of that bargain. A government that assumes
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  Speaker 1: responsibility for protecting every part of life will eventually claim
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  Speaker 1: the authority to control every part of life. Today, candidates
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  Speaker 1: are again promising that greater government control will make life safer, fair,
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  Speaker 1: or more secure. Before accepting that promise, Americans should remember
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty. They should remember who was permitted to work,
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  Speaker 1: which businesses were declared essential, whether children could enter their classrooms,
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  Speaker 1: whether congregations could enter their churches, and whether families could
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  Speaker 1: visit their loved ones. They should remember how private independence
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  Speaker 1: was replaced by government permission and public assistance. Above all,
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  Speaker 1: they should remember the lesson of twenty twenty. Government power
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  Speaker 1: surrendered during an emergency is as easily expanded, rarely exercised
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  Speaker 1: with humility, and never returned as quickly as promised. Liberty
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  Speaker 1: is safest when citizens refuse to surrender it in the
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  Speaker 1: first place. A men, Mark Gianninigan. He's a real estate developer,
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  Speaker 1: property manager from Rochester. The op ed appearing again in
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  Speaker 1: you handle the upcoming tax bill if the levees go through.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate Adam Keayler because you know they the this
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  Speaker 1: the figures that you read the swirling around the one
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  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars figure right when you're probably we're going
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  Speaker 1: to improve a mill five point sixty one mill levee
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  Speaker 1: and for one hundred thousand dollars forth of property it
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  Speaker 1: translates to and then they give you a dollar mat
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  Speaker 1: But who lives in a one hundred thousand dollars property?
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  Speaker 1: What's the average property? Oh, that's kind of what Adam
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  Speaker 1: Keyler was summarizing. He did a breakdown of the of
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  Speaker 1: the two levees, what they mean, and what the various
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  Speaker 1: elected officials have said relating to them. Of Course, one's
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  Speaker 1: the Sinsini Public scho ley, which will be levied if
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  Speaker 1: passed upon those who live in the boundaries of Sininn
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  Speaker 1: Public schools. And of course the county tax levey is
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  Speaker 1: going to apply to everybody who lives in the county,
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  Speaker 1: stating the obvious. But when you add them all up,
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  Speaker 1: the figure is a little eye popping because the average
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  Speaker 1: property value typical home value in the city of Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty four nine and fifty five bucks
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  Speaker 1: per year, writes Adam. That's according to Zillo, he grabbed
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  Speaker 1: the figure from zillo. What does that mean? Nine hundred
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  Speaker 1: and thirty dollars the two levees added together. That's kind
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  Speaker 1: of a big ask, wouldn't you think? I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what your property tax bill is. Mine's gone up substantially
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  Speaker 1: over the years. And in addition to that, and see,
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  Speaker 1: this is the concern I have, because you know, with
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  Speaker 1: inflationary pressures all around us, and well, you can go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and figure out the reasons why your energy bill
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  Speaker 1: might be going through the roof, maybe a consequence of
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  Speaker 1: some government decision making or perhaps a regulatory scheme which
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  Speaker 1: makes it virtually impossible to do anything without the expenditure
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  Speaker 1: of mass legal fee dollars, and you jumping through hoops
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  Speaker 1: and hurdles which increased the cost of literally everything, and
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  Speaker 1: delay actually getting something accomplished, kicking the can down the
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  Speaker 1: road forever. You know, the impediments in smoothing the path
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  Speaker 1: to us having a more efficient system and therefore at
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  Speaker 1: a lower cost, are just amazing. But you look at
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  Speaker 1: your duke bill. Mine was outrageous. Just got it yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what's on my mind. And they've already asked
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  Speaker 1: for a rate increase, So whittle away here, whittle away there,
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  Speaker 1: and then you come to a point where you find
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  Speaker 1: yourself you don't have any disposable income leftover, and the
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  Speaker 1: property tax is really obviously a very troubling thing, going
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  Speaker 1: back to the whole idea of capital gains, and I
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  Speaker 1: think it's the best illustration why property taxes are completely unfair,
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  Speaker 1: and most notably for folks who don't have any income
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  Speaker 1: coming in beyond maybe socis security, fixed income. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: when I built my house back in nineteen sixty or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: or bought it, I only paid like fifty grand for it.
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  Speaker 1: Now they're telling me it's worth eight hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars, and that's what I'm being taxed on.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't sell the house. I didn't realize anything beyond
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  Speaker 1: what I put into it when I acquired it. And
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  Speaker 1: my income is fixed. I can't manage some arbitrarily decided
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  Speaker 1: valuable home because some guide did a drive by and
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  Speaker 1: did some comps to sales in the neighborhood. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: realized anything, and my monthly earnings have not gone up.
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  Speaker 1: Oh look, property taxes are gonna go up. You mean
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  Speaker 1: nine hundred and thirty dollars? Uh? No, Moss five twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: all about the bad results that are going on. And
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  Speaker 1: on the line, Tom, Happy Friday, brother, Good to hear
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  Speaker 1: from you as always.
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  Speaker 2: Good, good morning, got any big by answer to the week?
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  Speaker 1: Taking my mom out to lunch today, That's the only
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  Speaker 1: thing on my plate and I'm looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what doesn't get a whole lot better
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  Speaker 2: than that.
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  Speaker 1: No, that doesn't. It really doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Good good good. We'll tell mom we all said, Hi.
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  Speaker 1: I think you just did. She's usually listening to the show.
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  Speaker 2: Don't remember, don't remember I mess you a few years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Pray still chilly that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there you go. You know what, And you know
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  Speaker 1: one of the reasons I can mind my p's and q's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, from an FCC Language compliance standpoint, because I
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  Speaker 1: know my mom's listening.
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  Speaker 2: Right right till next time you see you, you'll start
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  Speaker 2: tugging on your ear or whatever her whatever her face.
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  Speaker 2: She does that to make sure you understand she means business.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, just give me that, give me that look
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  Speaker 1: that makes me feel guilty and bad for what I've done.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go out on a limb and say
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  Speaker 2: that your your parents I'm saying this obviously tongue and tee,
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  Speaker 2: because we all know this is true, because many times
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  Speaker 2: you have expanded on this, but your parents made it
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  Speaker 2: very clear to you that you are accountable for your
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  Speaker 2: behavior and and certain behavior will not be tolerated.
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  Speaker 4: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: You are well one hundred percent correct, Tom, There is
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  Speaker 1: no question about.
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  Speaker 2: That, right, and and that that is as I listened
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  Speaker 2: to you in the morning, when I when I uh,
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  Speaker 2: when I first turn it on, and you know, starting
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  Speaker 2: to five oh five and all that, I'm sometimes I
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  Speaker 2: have a topic in mind that I want to go
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  Speaker 2: to and then uh, you know, more often than not,
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  Speaker 2: something that you say or read perks my interests. And
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  Speaker 2: they're at the very end You're talking about the juvenile
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  Speaker 2: judges and a very very serious problem, not just with
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  Speaker 2: juvenile but with everybody is holding people accountable. People have
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  Speaker 2: to know they are accountable for their behavior, and they
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  Speaker 2: realize that they are not going to be able to
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  Speaker 2: get away with the crap they're trying to pull, and
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: they know what they're doing in spite of their oh
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: well I didn't know, or or whatever excuse they come up,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: but they know what they're doing. We're all grown adults here,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: at least most of us here that are listening to
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: this show, and even the kids, the older kids, they
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: know what they're doing. They just need to know that
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: that someone's going to stand up and say no, that's
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: not acceptable. I'm not going to allow you to do that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: So and by the way, here's a consequence you have
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: to say because you did it anyway. That is sorely
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: missing in our society. And it's all in the name
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: of Oh, we don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. Your
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: feelings don't put food on the table. Your feelings don't
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: get anything done. All your feelings do is make life
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: more difficult for you and everybody around you. We all
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: have feelings. We all have to be considerate of other
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: people's feelings, but not to the extent where we let
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: people get away with whatever they want to do, no
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: matter how dangerous they may be, or no matter how
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: problematic they may be for everyone around them. We've got
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: to hold people accountable and stop whatever whatever phrase you
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: want to use, going easy on them. I mean, okay,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: everybody needs a little slack sometimes, but you earn that slack.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: You know, you've shown up for work every day for
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: a while, and you know what, you missed the day
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: where you came in late. You're always here on time.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: No big deal, you know. But if it happens more,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: he's having it over and over again, somebody has to
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: put their foot down say hey, that's not acceptable.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: If no one's willing to do it, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: keep happening.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's part and parcel what judges do. Like,
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  Speaker 1: for example, one sentence comes around did this person otherwise
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: live in honorable, decent life and had a misstep, Well
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: that factors into the sentencing. All right, we're going to
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: give you probation because you've never done it before. Let's
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: learn a lesson here, because next time you may be
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: locked up for filling the blank. But you got someone
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: in front of you who have time after time after
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: time commits crimes, is not held accountable for it, and
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: then ends up back in front of a judge because
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: another crime has been committed. That's when the hammers needs
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: to be brought down exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the that's the job of a judge, Yeah,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: is to point the offender in the direction of the
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: law and say, see that law, that's what that law says,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: and miss law says that I have a right to
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: do this to you because you broke that law. It's
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: it's very ambiguous. There's nothing about it that's that's feeling oriented.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: This is the deal, you did it, You're caught, you're busted,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: this is the this is the price you're going to pay. Period.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: And if more of that's going on, people are going
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: to stop and think, well, you know, I mean, I know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I do, I know you do, Brian. A lot of
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: people out there they stop and think about what might
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: happen because they know, oh, I've gotten a ticket before,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: or or I've gotten fired before, or whatever has happened
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: to you before. Those consequences they stay in your mind
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and you remember that stuff. And we got it, and
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: we got to do this in a Democrats they got
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: to have some consequences for all the shenanigans they're pulling in,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: all the things they're doing to our country and trying
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: to take over, you know, our liberties and trying to
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: steal our money. We have to give them consequences. And
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: we got a vote amount of office. So don't vote Democrat,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: but have a.
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  Speaker 1: Great retick, right, Thanks, Tom, You do the same appreciate
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  Speaker 1: indeed Friday. Thank you jose Jrecker for compiling this stack. First,
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  Speaker 1: before we get to it, let's se what Patrick's got
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: this morning. Hey Patrick, thanks for calling the morning showing.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Happy Friday to you.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Hi Brian, Happy Friday to you as well. So please
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: bear with me. I just had stitches put in my
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: lipt yesterday from a work injury, so I apologize or
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: my speech is a little off. The reason that I
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: was calling is, you know, Tom brings up a good
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: point about not voting Democrat. But the problem of it
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: is is that we have too many Republicans, and You've
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: talked about this many times, who are not physically responsible
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: by driving our debt, which is going to cost us
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: in the long run. Now, I wanted to bring up
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: a theory to you, and I wanted to get your
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: take on this about this whole Democratic socialist of America.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I truly believe that the Democrats are playing this up
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  Speaker 4: as a plan. And here's my point on that. If
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  Speaker 4: the Democrats have socialist candidates that get nominated for anything,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: you know, Senate governor, then they know that the Republicans
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: in order to try to win over the voters who
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: are going to vote for the less socialist candidate, they're
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: going to have to pander to their voters to try
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: to win them over to keep the socialists from getting in.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: So the Democrats are going to get a little bit
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: of what they want, ie like Susan Collins and Lisa mccowski.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: So I just wanted to get your take on that
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  Speaker 4: and see what you think.
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  Speaker 1: So have a good tread, soirk Patrick, I appreciate it. Man,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I listen, I don't know, depending upon where you read,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you come up with the different conclusion about where the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Democrats are in in connection with this big ten thing
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that Schumer calls it. You know, well, it's a big ten.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: It's a big ten. But what does it mean anymore
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: to be a Democrat? I mean, you put a D
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: after your name. Going back to your point about the Republicans,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever happened to fiscal responsibility? Got I would say,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: arg you probably more Republicans who are not fiscally responsible
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: to the ones who are so within that R banner.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: You've got, you know, tea party leaning folks, uh Freedom
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Caucus whatever, and then you've got people all the way
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: over on the rhinos side of the category. Oh, by
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: the way, Mitch McConnell's out of the hospital, who seem
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: to ignore core fundamental Republican party platform principles, most notably
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: fiscal responsibility. So what does it mean to be a Republican?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Then going to the Democrat side, you give your traditional
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: you know, old school Democrats, and one might be quick
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: to go back to a guy like John F. Kennedy,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: who would be a Republican these days, and probably a
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: centrist Republican as opposed to a left leaning Republican. And
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: there's still some of them around. Some government control, some
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: involvement of government, but not a wholesale you know, takeover
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: a private property and basically the means of production, and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: they're struggling in their own party about the control the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: left is the the DSAY is having in their party.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: But again, most of this activity is happening in pretty
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: damn hard blue states, or if you look at any
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: given county within a more well say, purple state, it
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: can happen if the individual county is hard leaning Democrat.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: And that's where the primaries come in, and that's where
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: low voter turnout can give you the illusion that the
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Democratic Socialists of America are actually really powerful and making
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of sizable inros. Now it's just a lot
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: of regular normal Democrats, didn't bother showing up at the polls. Well,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Democrat's going to get it. This is a hard blue
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: state or a hard blue county. I don't have to
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: worry about those evil Republicans getting their foot of the door.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: But if you looked at who the candidate is that
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: the d that you're not going in and voting for,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: or maybe who's the who is the other option for
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the cadidates candidates that's running as a socialist, you know it.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I think that's really where the focus needs to be.
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  Speaker 1: Voter turnout in primaries. Because these are primaries, the Democrats
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: are picking the choice. Some of them are DSA folks,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: some of them are your more centrist traditional Democrats who
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: don't embrace abolishing the police departments or the prison systems,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: or abolishing ICE, for example, or defunding the entire Pentagon.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: But that's exactly what the platform of the DSA is.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Abolish the Senate, replace the Presidency and Supreme Court, abolish ice,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: abolished borders, give amnesty to everyone in These are not
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  Speaker 1: policies or platform principles that a lot of Democrats embrace.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: So clearly a political state of flux going on both
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: sides of the parties. I say, it's full on on
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the Democratic side, and you've got a lot of Demo
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: crowds out there scrambling and worrying about the viability of
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: their own party because traditionally anyway, socialism is not something
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: broadly speaking, that most Americans would tolerate conceptually even and
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: then going back to the article about COVID or well,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: practically speaking, when those principles are put into play, and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: there's again going back to the article of the op
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: ed piece, there's so many parallels that can be drawn.
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  Speaker 1: For the you know, the the grand and glorious future
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: of socialism in America. When you look back at what
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: happened under COVID, when those principles and platforms and policies
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: are implemented, you lose control, you lose decision making, you
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: lose freedom, you lose pretty much everything from my standpoint,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Stager Stup been coming up or phone calls either way.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: But first, how about a moment of thinking five point
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  Speaker 1: fifty one thinky five PC de talk stations tech tried
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  Speaker 1: to be day Matter at six point thirty. Hope you
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: stick around for that, doesn't Watch Dog Todd Zinser in
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  Speaker 1: Studios seven o five for an hour of him revealing
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: craziness from our elected officials in downtown Cincinnati, Eric Conroy
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: running against Greg Landsman. Vote Conroy. He'll be in studio
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: at eight oh five, and then Jack Wentzer from the
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: oh Press Network. He's got some good stuff to talk about,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: most notably some comments about shared Brown in connection with
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the Houston Brown race. Stacker Stuben naked people. It's Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty six year old woman from Pleasant Prairie, Wisconsin arrested Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: There after police found her naked behind the wheel of
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: a stolen fire department pickup truck. Why are you doing that?
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Let's find out. I don't think we'll find out. Body.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Cameron shows officers questioning the woman, her name Emily Fair,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: driving the stolen vehicle. When asked why she was naked,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: here you go, Joe, she said, I'm supposed to be
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: meeting someone. What okay?
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Document reveal the incident started at one am, when she
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: was caught on video climbing into the truck at Pleasant
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Prairie Fire Station Number three, turning on the emergency lights,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and driving away. Dispatchers soon noticed unusual radio transmissions, including
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: one where someone said I'm hungry you got food in there.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Officers found her dress in the bed of the truck
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: before taking her into custody. Charge with operating a motor
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: vehicle without owner's consent, scheduled to undergo competency hearing at
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the end of it was at the end of August.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: If convicted, she could face up to six years in
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: prison or a ten thousand dollars fine. We go to
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  Speaker 1: Michigan Berlin Township at Michigan, where a woman's now facing
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: charges after she allegedly abandoned her children at a motel
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: and walked nude into a nearby home. Why are you
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: doing that? Forty year old Stacey Gremlich facing fourth the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Greek felony count of burglary, three misdemeanor counts of childen dangering,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and a misdemeanor count of public in decency. After nine
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: am it was late July, deputies called to Berlin Township
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to assist ems with a woman experiencing a panic attack.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Deputies en route dispatcher's advised them of the situation was
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: maybe a burglary in process. When deputies arrived, they spoke
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: to a husband and wife who were staying in one
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: of the units, saying that there was a woman in
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the basement yelling for help. Deputies went down a stairwell
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: found Gramlich completely naked, locked in a dog cage.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: After ensuring that nobody else was present in the basement,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: deputies led her out. She told them that she couldn't
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: remember how she ended up in the dog cage. Deputies
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: noted that she was either under the influence of a
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: substance or possibly having a mental health crisis. I'm going
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: with that too, Joe. They put a blanket on her.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Letter out to the ambulance. Woman who rented the unit
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: told the rest of the family went to the sport
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to a sporting event. She stayed behind to take a rest.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: At one point, when she was lying down in the bedroom,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: that's when she heard noise coming from the kitchen area.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Hearing a female's voice, sat up and observed Gramlech on
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: her hands and knees, staring face to face with the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: woman's dog. The dog lightly growing at Gramlich. This encounter,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: two women had a brief interaction before Gramdmleach got up,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: turned around, walked away. Victims thought she'd left, so she
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: just locked the door and called her family members, but
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: for a short time later, she heard Gramlich making noise
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: in the basement. Victim's husband arrived yelled downstairs. Gramlench then
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: began yelling for help. Two victims left. The residents waited
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: for deputies to show up. Hard for deputies, they say
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: to understand Gramleinch due to her state. She claimed to
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: have vaped, but denied drug usage.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Drugs were made.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: She said that she had three children staying in one
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: of the unions. Deputies went there and found three children
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: age eleven to sixteen, with no other adults. They say
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Gramlitch was their mom and they didn't know where she was.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Children taken to the Sheriff's office and then turned over
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: to Children's Services while Grandma was called Grandmo's taken to
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the Fireland's Regional Medical Center for evaluations. Detectives determined and
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: listed the charges would be sent to the Erie Municipal Court.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Released from the hospital, and then arrested. Wow, ayay five
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• 33:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of questions swirling around on that one. Joe
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: coming up, got Tech Friday with Dave Hatter, water utilities,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: cybersecurity incidents. There's your red flag right there, folks. We
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: got to get ahead of these problems.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: And a lot more than that coming up. We got
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: plenty to talk about before Dave joins the show at
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  Speaker 1: Radio Hey six h six to fifty five KR See
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• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Names Brian Thomas, host of the program, Joe Treker, executive
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  Speaker 1: producer of the program, and he's lined up some guests
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and including coming up to six thirty Every Friday, we
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: get to hear from Dave Hatter, Tech Friday's Dave had
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Ter from Interest I we're gonna learn about water utilities
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: getting hacked, cybersecurity incidents in multiple states, that sting TV
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: streaming stick. I guess he's got a warning to you
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: before you run out and buy one. Obviously problems, I'm
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: thinking at least since it's on the list. Plus Meta
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: used AI to target workers with medical conditions for layoff
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: metas and some serious problems. We'll get to that in
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: just a second. Citizen Watchdog todds Enzer fast forward at
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: two seven oh five. He'll be in studio for a
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: full hour unveiling and revealing to you people who care
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: about all the what I like to call shenanigans. He
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: follows the City of CINCINNTI Council their violations of the rules.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: They're fair to provide information, they're well cloaked secrecy. Anywow,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: full hour with todds Enzer Citizen Watchdogs, his podcast, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I strongly recommend you find that where you get your
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: podcasts and recognize that you too could have your podcast
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: produced by Joe Stracker like Toddzenzer. Does there you go, Joe,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: shout out Eric Conroy, Yes we have a choice. Greg
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Landsman or Eric Conroy. I'm going with Eric. He'll be
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: in studio at eight oh five to discuss the reasons
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: why he is a better choice than Greg Lansman. Finally,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Jack Winsor from the High Press Network, we're talking about
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the TikTok fast approaching election November, getting people up to
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: vote socialist housing policy and what that's going to cost
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Ohio families. And then we have the Houston Brown race,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: and he did a good breakdown of Brown's, you know,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: sort of behind the scenes challenges. We have that divorce
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: issue which is impacting the house race with Bernie Moreno's daughter,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and the abuse allegations that are swirling around the candidate.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: So how come nobody's focusing on shared Brown. Apparently he's
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: got some swirling details in his background. The press just
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: isn't even interested in talking to him about anyhow. You
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: feel free to call or let us dive on over.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci got held in contempt yesterday. At least the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Senate panel voted to find him in contempt and then
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: referred the matter over to the Justice Department for possible prosecution.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Possible and I wouldn't hold your breath on this one honestly, folks,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Fauci of Paul Ran Paul brought this up, of course,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: brought the hearing together, claimed Fauci has no reason to
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: invoke his Fifth Amendment right to be freedom of self incrimination.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: He asserted it each and every time, and we all
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: know that he didn't quite hit the record, which I
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: think stands at one hundred and fifty, but one hundred
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: and eleven times taking the fifth wouldn't answer any questions.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: And I know exactly why he didn't answer any questions,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: because if you answer any then you give up your
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Fifth Amendment right. The question since he had a full
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: pardon from Joe Biden for literally anything he did that
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: would be subject to federal prosecution anyway, and he didn't
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: have a right to assert his Fifth Amendment, he would
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: be he would he has to answer the questions. Well,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: it's an initial proposition, that's accurate. But if he is
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: liable for criminal prosecution on a state level Biden Biden's
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: pardon don't cover any crimes or allegations related to that,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: nor do they deal with civil matters that could be
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: brought in states. So I'm sure that thinking about that,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: as lawyers told him to take the Fifth and there's
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: no guarantee the Justice Department will investigate, it will prosecute.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: But they've got a final reason to prosecute him for
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: asserting his Fifth Amendment in the face of a plea
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: of a pardon. But along comes yet another attorney general,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: this one Florida, Florida's Florida's Attorney General, James Uthmeyer, issued
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: a subpoena to Anthony Fauci in connection with, you know,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: some potential criminal charges. They called the issue into the
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: subpoena part of an official investigation in two here we
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: go awards professional opportunities, financial incentives, grants, and COVID nineteen
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: guidance that impacted Florida businesses and consumers. Now, if there
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: is a Florida state law that brings into play any
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: of those sort of suggestions about what the subpoena is
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: related to, and if there is a potential criminal action
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: that can be brought against them, then Fauci still retains
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: his Fifth Amendment right to be free of self incrimination
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: in connection with state laws, and that's maybe why he
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: was doing it. So there are other attorneys general in
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: other states have done the same thing. Now, the ag
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: in Florida Uthmeaiyer his office said the subpoena has focused
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: on Fauci's diary entries that were just recently disclosed by
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Rand Paul and show that pretty much we were all
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: being lied to by Fauci, but also revealed these awards
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: and grants that I hadn't ever heard before. The details
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: were revealed at the hearing. The entries in the diary
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: details substantial awards professional opportunities, approximately nine hundred thousand dollars
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: he got for the Dan David Foundation Prize, an NIAID
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: research grant to the University of Florida script's biomedical research program,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: authors of named professorships, book deals, board positions, private foundation partnerships,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: and other professional and financial opportunities concurrent with his federal
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: role in private recommendations that impacted Florida Florida. So I
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: personally am really wildly curious to know what has come
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: out that would cause there would be some specific criminal
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: allegation from Florida. What state law did he violate that
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: was survived. I met a loss to know the Attorney
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: General didn't come out and say we think this could
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: have violated this particular state law. They're just looking for
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: information now because they suspect there's been a crime, maybe
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: the idea of probable cause. So but in the final analysis,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think yesterday's hearing and the referral for contempt
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: over to the Justice Department is going to go anywhere,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: because again state laws may have been violated. As long
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: as that possibility exists, I think his right survives. My
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: thought anyway, five one, three, seven, nine fifty five hundred,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: eight hundred and eight to two three talk pound five
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  Speaker 1: fifty on AT and T phones. Here's a thought question
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: for you, and related to nothing I've been talking about
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: this morning. But I'm still wondering what the hell's going
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: to happen between the Iranians and the Omanis as well
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: as the United States, and where's Israel involved in all
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: these settlement negotiations. So here's what has been reported. Iran
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: state media gave the details of the Iran Imani draft proposal.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: This is the conversation they're having with the Omani's. You
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: got the Iranians on the north of the strait, you
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: got the Omani's on the south. How are we going
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: to divide up the profits from the Strait of Horrormus
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: ship traffic. How are we going to open back up
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the Straight of Hormus to our financial benefit? The Iranians
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: are looking at one and the Omanis are as well.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: May the Iranians are one side, we're on the other.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe we can make money too, say the Omanis, and
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I guess they could. But here's what the key proposal
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: includes in this Omani Iranian agreement. The passage of vessels
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: belonging to the United States, Israelis and other hostile countries
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I guess to be determined by the Omanis and Iranians
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: through the Strait of Hormuz will be prohibited. Well, does
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: that sound like a non starter to you? Ships related
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: to Israel, whether military or civilian, will not have the
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: right to transit through this area. That sounds like a
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: non starter to you. Vessels are cargoes that play a
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: role in actions against the resistance front splitter will also
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: be subject to the ban. Now, one can make an
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: argument that any country over there in the Middle East
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: and that has the US for a base on it
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: is a part of the problem for the Iranians. They
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: might be deemed as hostile countries. They may be deemed
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: to engage engage in actions against the resistance front. That's
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: initial cap on that one. Heavy fines including twenty percent
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: of the value of the goods will be implosed on violators. See.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, all I can say is this all sounds
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: like non starters. And one of the reasons I bring
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: it up is because the oil prices have dropped dramatically
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: trade and lowered. Yesterday on the reports of progress in
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: the Iran Imman talks or Oman talks, investigators cautiously cautiously
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: waiting for signs of a US Iran peace deal and
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: progress on reopening the straits. Well, no reports on progress
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: in connection with discussions between the US and Iran, and
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: most recently reported in spite of the fact that Trump said, no,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: we're sitting down talking with them. We're talking with They
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: came to me and wanted to talk. And what they're
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: saying to you out loud is lying, the Iranians are
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: still saying no, we're not talking to them. So no
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: reported regardless of who's right or wrong on that. Maybe
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: there's some truth in between the we're not talking and
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: we are talking side. I don't know, but there have
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: been no details emerging from what those talks, if they
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: are going on. Have resulted in the only details we
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: got of this Iran Oman deal, and it doesn't sound
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: like it would really legitimately go anywhere if none of
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: our vessels, none of the Israeli vessels, and none of
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: any of the other vessels that have any disagreement with
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: the Iranians or the Ilanis can't go through either. Six
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  Speaker 1: fifteen right now, fifty five KRCD talk station. Yeah, metas
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  Speaker 1: five krc the talk station. Six twenty one at fifty
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  Speaker 1: five KRCD talk station. It is Friday. Happy about that.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: David always agrees with me every Friday, and considering a
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: life without social media. And I don't know this is
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: necessarily going to happen, But when you've got one of
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: the most valuable country companies in the world getting hit
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: time and time and time and time again with multi
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: million dollar awards, that's what's happening to Meta. We got
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: a new Mexico judge just yesterday, I believe, ordered Meta Platforms,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: parent of Facebook and Instagram, to pay more than nine
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: hundred million dollars as well as in engage in some
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: reform practices in designing to protect children on social media. Now,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: the judge ordered them to create a five hundred and
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: sixty seven million dollar batement fund, along with paying three
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five million dollars in civil penalties that
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: a jury previously awarded. Judge also ordered the company to
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: enact certain safety features, like limiting the amount of time
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: an underage user can be on the space, specifically Facebook
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: and Instagram. Did they even understand that young people don't
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: even use Facebook, Joe? Isn't it an old person platform
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: that I'm on? Yeah? Anyway? Hiding that by default the
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: number of likes on photos for such people, and disclosing
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the two users the risks on the platforms, like maybe
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: pedophiles having access to your kids. Anyway, The fund, a
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: judge say, was necessary due to the widespread impacts of
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: harm and the complex nature of the remedy. Dollar amount
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: of the batement fund was less than what the lawyers wanted,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: but still sizable. Meta is going to appeal, of course,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: brought by the Attorney General there accusing the company of
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: allowing youngsters to use users to see sexually explicit content
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: and be easily lured by predators on the apps. Back
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: in March. That's when the jury found that Meta willfully
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: violated state consumer protection laws. So that's where your jury
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: award came from. And it's reported Meta is facing thousands
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: of lawsuits from state attorneys general, school districts, individual plain
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: is all alleging the company gave priority to growth over
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: safety for its underage users. Mexico case, they say, is
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: the first test to test the question about whether social
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: media companies should be held responsible for content on their platforms.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Get a load of this. The next trial, brought by
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: four state attorneys general. Jury's selection begins in Oakland, California,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: on that one next week. Here's where I say the
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: idea of the company being put out of business or
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: bankrupt medicine in the court found that the states in
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: that case, the four states are asking for more than
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: a trillion dollars in damage. A Los Angeles jury found
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: earlier this year the Meta and YouTube were liable and
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: in connect with a young woman who said excessive use
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: of those products led to mental health problems. The company
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: said legal proceedings in the second quarter alone, these collective
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: legal proceedings in the second quarter alone. Notice my emphasis
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: on that, because the figure is two point four billion dollars.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Now in spite of the fact that it's a massive company.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much liquid assets they have. You know,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the value of the company includes my buildings and everything
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: else that's involved. You know, maybe future profits. I don't know,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: but billion here, a billion there, maybe a trillion over here.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: You might find yourself in a world of hurt and
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: facing perhaps the existential threat your business model can't survive,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Which is why I asked out loud contemplate a life
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: without social media, because it's easy for me to do that,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: considering I could just look back on a lot of
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: years in my life where it didn't exist and my
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: current existence, which uses very little social media at all. Yeah,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: come on back in the Water's really fine. Your children
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: will probably not realize how better they will be off
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: for not having it, but they will be, and they
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: won't have a cause of action for their lives being
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: destroyed by it. Six twenty five fifty five K six
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: fifty five KRC detalk station being Friday, it is that
• 47:25
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• 47:49
  Speaker 5: Happy Friday, Bryan, you and Jail and all your listeners.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: And yeah, I'm always happy to be here.
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• 47:56
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• 48:01
  Speaker 1: not just for this program, but other valuable information. Dave
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Hatter I was talking about Meta being ordered to pay
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: multiple millions and if not multiple billions of dollars in
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: these lawsuits for corrupting children. Got a new Mexico judge
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: ordering them a total of nine hundred million dollars. I
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: guess on the stake there. But there are four lawsuits
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: from other states with their seeking a trillion dollars from Meta.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: They've been awarded other jury awards. Their quarter second quarter
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: legal costs two point four billion dollars. Is it possible
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: that these lawsuits could bankrupt Meta and we might have
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: to move into a world without social media a dream
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: Well maybe, Brian, you know more about lawsuits and that
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: sort of thing than I do. It is interesting because
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: Metta seems to be so it As a reminder, folks,
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: Meta is the parent company of Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram and others.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: You know, they changed the name from Facebook to Metta
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: some time ago, and you know, over the years they
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: have rolled up a lot of different brands under the
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: Meta name. So when you hear people talk about Meta,
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: just to be clear again, it's what's app, it's Instagram,
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: it's Facebook primarily, and they just seem to get a
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: lot of bad press. There's a lot of lawsuits, there
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: have been some whistleblowers. You know, I only know what's
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: reported in the press. But Brian, I think you know
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: I'm not a huge fan, right I do you have
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: a Facebook account? I only use it from a very
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: lockdown web browser on a very lockdown computer. I don't
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: have that app. I don't use any of their other products,
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: and so you know, yeah, not a huge fan. But
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: then you know this, here's another another angle here from MSN.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: Meta used AI to target workers with medical conditions for layoffs.
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: Ye former lawsuit claims. So you know, twenty six former
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: colleagues and Meta platforms and found a lawsuit against the company,
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: accusing it of using AI powered software that disproportionately targeted
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: people with disabilities or who took medical leave, and selecting
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: people from mass layoffs that it did not immediately respond
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: for comment. Now you know, it'll be interesting to see
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: how this plays out. Meta has also come under fire
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: in the not too recent past for using what some
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: would call spyware or boss wear type software to watch
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: what employees are doing. Some said it's because they want
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: to train AI and then get rid of those folks.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: That was one of the allegations. I think they've backed
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: off of that now because it caused a storm of
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: controversial so yeahs. As of late, it seems like they
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: aren't doing well in the courts and in public opinion.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: I've recently rolled out there smart glasses and have gotten
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: some backlash on that for folks who haven't followed that
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: all smart glasses. This idea is not new. Google did
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: this several years ago, but that never really caught on that.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: Meta has some partnerships. I think Ray Bann is one
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: of them, perhaps, and they're building glasses because you know,
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: computers now are very small. You could put them in
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: the frame of sunglasses or you know, larger framed glasses.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: You put a microphone on it, a camera on it,
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: and you have a very privacy invasive device on someone's face.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: Because even though supposedly these all have a light that
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: turns on to lets you know they're recording, of course,
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: there's nothing that would stop someone from painting over it,
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: or putting a sticker over it, or obscuring the light
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: in some way, and now you're talking to someone or
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: where chet Brian. Some folks have alleged thes are quote
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: perve glasses unquote or something like that, because you don't
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: know when you might be in a restroom and the
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: person next to you is wearing these glasses and recording
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: or in any kind of setting. So yeah, yeah, I'm
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: not a fan. I think it's super invasive. I am
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: not a fan of how everything is being computerized and
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: we're adding software into everything, everything is getting connected, because
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: as you'll see in a later story this morning, all
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: of these things are vulnerable. You know Mike Ohipponent, I've
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: mentioned him on your show many times, very well known
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: cybersecurity expert wrote a book called if It's Smart, It's Vulnerable.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: He's written many books, but one of his latest is
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: if It's Smart, It's Vulnerable. And the point he's trying
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: to make is, as we make everything a computer, your car,
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: your refrigerator, fill in the blank, these glasses, they are vulnerable.
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: It's not just the privacy implications of the stuff, which
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: are bad enough, in my opinion, it's that these things
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: connect to the Internet, they connect to your local network,
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: they might connect to your work network, and they create
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: vulnerabilities that bad guys can exploit to do all kinds
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: of bad.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Things, like really, really, really bad things. We're gonna pause.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: We'll bring Dave back to talk about what youies among
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: the things that can be hacked because they too are
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: hooked up to the Internet. We just found out about
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: this and that problem is a frightening one interest I
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  Speaker 1: talk station. At six forty I fIF you have krcdtalk
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: station Brian Thomas with Dave had Her from intrust dot Com,
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• 53:19
  Speaker 1: this scared the living crap out of me, Dave Hatter,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: because if we don't get water and easily now how
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: about electricity or anything else that hooked up to the Internet.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Apparently some nefarious powers figured out a way to interfere
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: with multiple water systems across multiple states.
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  Speaker 5: Dave, this is bad, Brian, and you and I have
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: talked about this many times over the years. As a
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: reminder for folks, the FBI has defined sixteen critical infrastructure
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: sectors Logistics, manufacturing, water, power, telecom, et cetera. You and
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: I have talked many times again over the years on
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: attacks on different aspects of these sixteen sectors. There's another
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: headline I'll give you real quick before we get into
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: this water thing, because frankly, I could have spent the
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: whole morning just on the water thing. From next of
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: Chinese telecom firms kept footholds in US networks despite federal
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: crackdown House Probe fines. So the US Select Committee on
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  Speaker 5: China just put out a big report on this. You know,
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: the telecom system, which is essentially the Internet at this point,
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: makes all of this stuff work because everything has software
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: in it, as I mentioned at the last in the
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: last second, you know, and if the telecom system goes down,
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: that may bring everything else down. Certainly, if the power
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: grid goes down in any meaningful way. Once the once
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: the backup generators stop working, everything goes down. It's a serious,
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: serious concern. I know people don't want to hear this.
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: I know it seems far fetched and fantastic, but I
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: encourage people to go out and check out organizations like Infraguard,
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: which is a public private partnership with the FBI. There's
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: a very active chapter here in Cincinnati. One of my
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: and Trust colleagues, Kime Black, runs it. We just had
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: a meeting where the FBI and the Ohio Cyber Reserve
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: came in this week. You've got organizations like the Foundation
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: for Infrastructure Resilience all focused on this sort of thing.
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: But to get back to this particular story, so about
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: two weeks ago, the news broke that some water plants
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: in Minnesota had been attacked. Now this is not new,
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: this has happened before. And when folks say why this,
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: I'm not worried about this.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: Let me remind folks of Stuck's Net. In case we
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: have forgotten. Stuck's Net was a virus someone made. The
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: US has never claimed responsibility. Yeah, and then they used
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: it to fool uranium. The Centerfuge operators in Iran who
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: were refining uranium into thinking the centrifuges were operating correctly.
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: This is what the virus did while they basically tore
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: themselves apart, and hundreds, if not thousands, of uranium centrifuges
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: were destroyed. It looked like it was doing what it
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: was supposed to do while actually toward itself apart. So
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: when you say what could go wrong, Well, so it
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: turns out at least thirty water plants in Minnesota were attacked,
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: at least one went down for some period of time,
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: at least one had to revert to manual operations. And
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: this gets to the idea of resiliency which SISA, the
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, has been pushing. Yeah, you
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: have to try to defend against this stuff, but you
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: have to make sure your systems are resilient. You have backups,
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: you can recover, you can implement manual processes if necessary.
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: So then we find out after a couple of days, well,
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: no it's not just Minnesota. It's not just thirty water
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: plants in Minnesota. This has apparently happened in seven states.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: A few days later, we're up to twelve states. So
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: here's the headline from ABC News. At least twelve states
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: face cyber attacks on their water systems. Sources say, you know,
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: it's been linked to Iran. That probably makes sense in
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: light at the current hostilities, and also Iran has been
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: well known for a long time a lot, along with China, Russia,
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: and North Korea as sort of the evil access of hacking.
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: From a US perspective, this article says the FBI is
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: urging utilities to disconnect systems from the Internet where possible,
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: use systems with breakers, and become familiar with reverting to
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: manual controls if automated systems are compromised. Now, yes, all
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: good advice. One of the problems with this, Brian. One
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: of the problems is so much of this operational technology. Right,
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: You've got information technology, the computers we use to do
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: white collar knowledge worker type stuff. Then you've got office
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: technolo or operational technology, the technology used in plants to
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: monitor systems, to control systems to make sure the right
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: amount of chemicals are in the water, sensors, thermostats, all
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: that sort of stuff. Most of that was never designed
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: for any sort of real security, wasn't designed to have
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: antivirus software on. It wasn't designed the same way that
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: information technol It's much harder to secure. Most of it
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: was never designed to be facing the Internet. A lot
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: of this stuff was connected to the Internet during the
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: COVID pandemic so that people could work remotely. And now
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: we're starting to see the concerns people like me. So
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: when you think IoT Internet of things, you know I
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: don't like this stuff, Brian. I just mentioned it segment.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: This is yet another example of how putting software into everything,
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: making everything quote unquote smart, connecting everything to the Internet.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: As Miko says in his book, which I'll put in
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: my notes today, so people should read the book, we
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: are creating an enormous amount of risk in an incredibly
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: fragile system, and now you're starting to see that it's
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: not people like me. I might be insane, Brian, but
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: I'm not wrong about this particular topic we are in.
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: We have got tickets serious about protecting our infrastructure, and
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: we must do it now.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: You can't deny it happens. You can't deny it's possible
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: to happen because it's already happened. Can deny the threat
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: that it presents because we happen to be. Yeah, call
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: it a war, call it whatever. I don't know what
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: you want to call it doesn't matter or well, Ministry
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: of Truth. The Iranians, we're bombing them. We have hard
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: targets we bomb. Why would we bomb them, Well, because
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: we want to blow it up. Like let's say, let's
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: blow up the nuclear stuff. There you go, it's all gone,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: We're safe. Why would we want to get rid of
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: the reactors or the centrifuges because they're making uranium and
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: rich with them. Let's get rid of those. You can
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: either drop a bomb on them, or you can unlease
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: software on them and destroy them and more effectively, it's
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: an active war. We're bombing the Iranians if they have
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: access to our critical infrastructure. They don't have drones over
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: here to launch on cities, but they can engage in
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: an active war like making life miserable for us by
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: shutting down water, electricity or anything else they can capably
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: shut down through the Internet. There, and it's you know what,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: you can justify that action all day long. Right we
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: the country of the United States at war with the Iranians.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: They can reach out and literally touch us through the
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Internet and hard. Let's do something about it, elected officials
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: and those responsible six forty six don't go away. We're
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  Speaker 1: pivoting over a TV streaming stick. What do we need
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  Speaker 1: to watch out for, Dave?
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is this is more Internet of things issue
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: that are constantly coming up. But I'm trying to convince
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: people that you should stop buying this stuff. Your ring doorbell,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: your nest, thermostat, fill in the blank on the brand.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: And frankly, at least the more well known brands are
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: from trust more trustworthy companies than some super cheap thing
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: you found out the internet that's coming straight from China.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: So Brian Crabs is a fairly well known security researcher.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: He's got a blog he covers all, you know, all
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: of the sort of stuff we're talking about on a
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: regular basis. So yeah, this story came out on the thirtieth.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: Security experts have been sounding the alarmed for years on
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: the risks of using generic TV boxes smart TVs right,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: smart TV boxes Now things like Roku again, Amazon Firestick,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: that's a different category. These, in many cases are things
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: designed to get you free TV, free movies, that sort
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: of stuff. You know, it's like the old school cable
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: box you got from a friend. If you know what
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, Ran, I'm sure you know what.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about right old days.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: Yes, promise unlimited content streaming for a one time fee,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: to strangers. This is a perfect example of what I
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: mean by the Internet of Things is so problematic. You
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: now have a device that's got software in it. Do
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: you know where the chips and the device came from.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: Do you know who the software? Do you know if
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: the software is secure? Do you know if it has
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: backdoors that Russian hackers or Chinese hackers or whomever can
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: exploit to who knows what? To you, your family, your
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: organization that you're connecting to over the network that has
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: these potentially compromised devices, or as we've seen, what would
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: a nerd like we would call a bot net attack
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: where they enlist hundreds, thousands, millions of these devices for
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: some sort of nefarious purpose, like to take down the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: website because all of these devices start flooding it with
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: network traffic. So this goes on to say groundbreaking new
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: clicking ads on AI generator websites as part of a
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: I know it's hard for people to understand that your
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: so called smart refrigerator. Now again, if you're buying something
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: from Phillips Orrell, you know, one of these big companies,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: that's different, but it doesn't mean that it could not
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: be hacked in some way. Right, I'll go back to
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: what I said in the last segment again. I'll post
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: this book, Mike O opponent. If it's smart, it's vulnerable.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: If it has software in it, it is vulnerable. I
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: don't care what it is. And when you're buying these
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: cheap things from shady websites, from unheard of brands because
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: you think you're going to get free streaming or whatever,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: you are literally potentially bringing a cyber grenade into your environment.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: As Crebs points out in here, it could do all
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: kinds of different things to you or to someone else.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: Imagine a million of these boxes suddenly pointed at the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: Department of Defense to try to knock their systems offline,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: or pointed at your local water plant or whatever whatever
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: it is, Brian, whatever their nefarious purpose is, these things
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: are almost always full of software that is junk at best,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: if it's not some sort of cyber weapon waiting to
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: be set off. I know this sounds crazy to people.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: You don't have to take my word for it. See
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: what crabs are saying, see what others are saying. I
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: understand the convenience, I understand the cool factor of much
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: of this stuff. I understand why people want them. The
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: point I'm always trying to make is, at the end
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: of the day, is the risk to you, your family
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: to anything that is connecting you're connecting to through a
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: network that is potentially compromised with one of worth these things.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: Is it really worth it? And now when we see
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: these water plant attacks, other attacks on critical infrastructure. There
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: was another story to Brian, a port somewhere I forget where.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: I think in South Carolina. I might have the story wrong.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: You know, they have these big shipping cranes. There was
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: a cyber attack on that.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Yea.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: We have got to get serious about our critical infrastructure,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: and we have got to stop buying all of this garbage.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: We've got to slow down with all of this technology.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: We have to understand. I'm not saying it could never work.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's inherently bad, saying much of this
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: consumer great stuff, especially at best, is problematic or worse,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: as we have now seen in many cases, is essentially
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: some type of spyware slash cyber weapon waiting to be
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: used by a cyber gang of some sort, or worse,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: some nation state actor like Russia or China or Iran.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: You know, all right, Well, you know, it seems to
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: me that this sort of logically and I'm hesitant to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: say it out loud for fear that someone's going to
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: accuse me of wanting more government oversight or something, but
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: that a national certification body or someone filled with people
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: who are capable of analyzing any Internet of Thing device
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: and determining whether it represents a security risk or not.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: Mean, well, there was even done. Maybe there was a
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: move afoot. I can't remember what the program is called,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: but something along the lines of the Energy Star program.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: I believe it was the FTC to do what you're describing.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: I'm skeptical of how effective that would be, especially because
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: a unless you make it mandatory that every product sold
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: in the United States has to go through this process.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: You know, if it's a voluntary submission system, it's the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: bad guys who are purposely nefarious are not going to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: do it. And secondarily, now, could could AI assist with this?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it is hard to find these kinds of
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: vulnerabilities and software. Imagine Brian, millions of devices now with
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: software inside them and connected to the Internet that you
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: would have to analyze for this sort of thing.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I listen, the challenges are fly at you in a
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: million directions. I get it, which is why where my
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: hesitancy came from. But you identify the problem. We need
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: to come up with a solution. And the quickest, easiest
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: solution is just don't buy the stuff in the first place.
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• 1:06:59
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  Speaker 1: His podcast Not Parenthetic or Not coincidentally called Citizen Watchdog,
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  Speaker 1: and Joe Strekker produces it. And what Todd does in
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  Speaker 1: his former capacity as US Inspector General, he brings that
• 1:07:40
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• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: seem to be wrong with the City of Cincinnati. Todd Sender,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the fifty five Carcy Morning Show. My friend,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: appreciate what you do.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Brian. I'm happy to be here.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I always have to observe as I contemplate life in retirement,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: what I'd be doing, And I certainly don't think I'd
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: be taking the time to boil through countless thousands of
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: pages the documents and ferreting out stupidity and faire to
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: follow policies and practices in the city since sand which
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: is what you've been doing. And you've got a lot
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: of things to dive on into and reveal to the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: listening audience today, so maybe they will make a better
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: choice when it comes to the next election, that would
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: be good, like evaluating people for competence or something. And
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: real quick before you dive on into the first one,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: which is the fact that you sued the city. You
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: got a new lawsuit file, TODs Enser. You saw Adam
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Kaylor's salary figures crunch since a public school salaries, Yes,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: they're asking for more money. Yes, they paid is what
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: twenty one thousand dollars per child annually to educate them? Yes,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: o K. And I think the comparison figure that was
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: provided when we were talking about the twenty one thousand
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  Speaker 1: per kid, you can go to a full year of
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  Speaker 1: university since at college for fourteen k.
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  Speaker 3: That's right?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well you know, and what they.
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  Speaker 3: Should do is they should start furloughing people if they
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: don't get this tax increase, they just have people take
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: a few days off, you know, every month or every
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: other week or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the salaries range from the top tier here at
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: least on Adam Kellers's treasurer. And they call it assignment,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: like what is a custodian assignment? I don't even know
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: what that moniker means, but treasurer assignment two hundred and
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: seventy and thirty nine dollars. The smallest salary figure on
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: the list is, interestingly enough, custodian assignment one hundred and
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: fifty seven six hundred and sixty five bucks, and then
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: the ranges in between that. You responded when I brought
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: this up to you off air before we started Todds Inzer,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: you said, those are DC level salaries. Absolutely, those are
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: big city level salary.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: That's right, since Cincinnati's not a big city like that.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: No, And I can say for personal experience, having lived
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: in Chicago, I was paid X, and when Paul Att
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: and I moved back to Cincinnati, we were paid one
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: third less than X. Our standard of living actually increased here.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: We got more stuff and things We're able to afford
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: more on less money because it's cheaper to live here
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: than Chicago. The same thing goes with DC compared to Cincinnati.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: And that's why I'm not living near my kids Boston, Seattle.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Dac Oh. Oh. Yes, I feel their pain, having lived
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: through a form of the ton Zenser. So I guess
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: you know a legitimate question can ask you. I guess
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: I have to wonder, you know, when you're talking about
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: a salary of a two ndred and fifty seventy five thousand
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: dollars a year. You know, it seems to suggest that
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: there is some high level degree or skill set that's
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: brought to bear. You need to pay someone that much
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: like engineering, Yeah, you got to be a real smart
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: person to do a lot of engineering, Like I don't
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: want an idiot as a nuclear engineer. And you do
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: have to pay this guy's a lot of money. There's
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: competition in the world out for that. What are they
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: bringing to bear? What is justifying this twohndred and seventies
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: ISSU one thousand.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing I can think of is that the
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: condition that conditions in the Cincinnati school system public school
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: system are so bad that they have to pay this
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: level of salary to get people to even come work here.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Just like trying to hire police.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: The worse the environment, the more you gotta pay him,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: or no one's going to show up and apply for
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: the job. Interesting analysis, Todds, And I'm glad I asked that, Yeah,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: because by all accounts, it can be pretty dangerous working
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: inside the sit siney public schools. Yeah, Todd pivoting over
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: you filed a lawsuit.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: I did we Did you see pg.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Sitting Feld's article on the Wall Street Journey yesterday? Piece
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: I heard you talk about it. It was, you know what,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I'll give the guy props. It just a little insight
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: into how much it sucks to be in prison. It
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: was just a really interesting, insightful piece about dealing with
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: the loss of his cell phone. When you go to prison,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: you can't have one, although he did reveal that it's
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: you know, with the inside the underground black market economy
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: inside of a prison. You can get them, but you're
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: not supposed to have them, right, and how difficult it was,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: And just I liked the fact that he wrote it
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: because it's just one illustration of how loss of liberty
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: can impact him. That's just one of a ton of
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: liberties you lose in prison. And so but that he
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: was in there because of open meetings violations, and you
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: stumbled upon another one that gave rise to litigation.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, we have an issue on the West Side where
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: the city is proposing, well of developers proposing affordable housing
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: development in a particular part of West Price Sill. It's
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: actually on the border of Westwood and West Price Sill.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: They want to put one hundred and sixty seven units
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: in and the plan is inadequate. And the big problem
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: we had is that the city did not consult with
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: west Price Sill because west Price Sill is four hundred
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: feet from the development in Westwood. So they did all
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: their community engagement with Westwood, whose town hall is two
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: and a half miles away, and they paid no attention
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: to West Price Sill that is four hundred feet from
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: the development. So that was the big the first problem
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: we had. But at the Planning Commission meeting where they
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: approved this project, it was so mismanaged. That meeting was
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: so mismanaged. The developer came in with two issues they
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: wanted approved. One was the zoning change and one was
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: the approval of the plan development, and the Planning Commission
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: of chairman didn't really know how to handle this, so
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: they wound up approving the zoning change, and then they
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: got confused about whether they should go ahead and approve
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: the plan development. See the zoning change needs city council approval,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: the plan development doesn't. So what they did is they
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: approved this development even though the zoning had not been
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: officially changed yet, and they got very confused about the
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: sequencing and At some point during the meeting, the chairman
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: so confused he asked the attorney, can we go into
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: executive session? And the attorney said yes, and that was it.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Paid no attention to the rules that they have to follow.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: To go into an executive session, you have to state
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: the purpose of the executive session. He did not do that,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: and when the executive session is over, you have to
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: say what it was all about. I do hope they
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: didn't do that either, and so blatant violation. So actually
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: I had talked about this on one of my podcasts
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: about the meeting and Pete Whitty, who is from the
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: West Side, been involved in oh yeah, been involved for
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: many years. He contacted me and he said that executive
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: session is a problem. Do you have the video? I
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: said yes, so I sent it to him. He sent
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: it to Kurt Hartman and several days later we filed
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: a lawsuit.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Kurt Hartman's great, Yeah, I'm the good man out there.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: So the allegation is the violation of a meetings law
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: to violate the provisions for executive session. What price is
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: paid if it is found that they did violate open meetings? Well,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: the ramifications.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: The ramifications is that the plan development that they approved,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: there'd be an injunction against implementing that, okay, And so
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: I think the simple solution is for them to just
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: go back in and approve it without going into executive session.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: It'd be they could take ten minutes to do it.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: But the thing is, the issue became the West Price Hill.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: People wanted the project delayed so that we could have
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: some input on it, right, and we had people on
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: the Planning Commission who were very sympathetic to us. And
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: it got to the point where if they delayed the decision,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: the developer would miss a deadline for low income housing
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: tax credits.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: So there you have it.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: The whole thing became deadline driven. And when you get
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: in a situation with this city council, if you mentioned
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: the word affordable housing, you win. You'll get approval. That's
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: their holy grail. They don't care what the quality is,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: they don't care what the quality of construction is, what
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: it's really going to do to the community. When I
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: went down to the Planning Commission, I read a post
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: that I saw online from a woman who lives about
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: a half a mile from there who said that, and
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: we have people on Glemley avenue that are in distress,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: drug addicts, prostitutes, people with mental health because we have
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: all these transitional housing on the West Side. And I
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: reported one incident where one of these people actually set
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: the back porch of a woman on fire because a
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: month earlier they had some kind of interaction on the
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: street and the woman even said I'm going to set
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: your house on fire. In a month later, she came
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: back and did it. So when I reported that to
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: the Planning Commission, I got criticized. Oh, low income people
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: aren't bad people, I said. I I didn't say anything
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: about income.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: I love how they like to paint that ridiculous picture,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: immediate knee jerk reaction.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: Exactly did they have Did they express any sympathy for
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: the woman whose house was set on fire?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: No, the lawbreaker, and that's in that's hiromaniac.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: That's what we're dealing with with this city council.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: Let's pause, Well, bring Todd Enzer back. It's great stuff, Todd.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I wish it didn't exist, but KCD conversation and try
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: to have a happy Friday. And in despite of what
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Todd Zenser, our citizen watch dog, is revealing to us,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: and before we move away from the UH into other
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: areas of abuse of our city government. This West Side
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: project you said as one hundred and sixty seven units,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: it's quote unquote affordable housing, which I guess I understand
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: and and and understand that to believe it's federally subsidized housing.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: It's like Section eight housing. Yes, and so the developer
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: needs that's federal dollars to build the project, right.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: These are low income housing tax credits that the federal
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: government would award through the state, and then they sell
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: those tax credits to investors to finance the project. So
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: the developers not out anything yet.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: You and I are, though, absolutely, because our tax dollars
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: support the credits that are being offered to the developers.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: You know, I asked you to just walk through that process,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: because you know, we get screwed everywhere whichever direction we
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: find ourselves.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: It does seem that way, it doesn't, all right.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: So call it affordable housing. You immediately get greenlit by
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: the city of sayings bite of the fact that all
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: the details weren' apparently known to them. They go into
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: an executive session in violation of the open meeting losso
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: they can hurry up and pass this thing because of
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: this alleged deadline. You said you were at the meeting
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: and the was it the mayor.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: No, it was it Planning Commission chairman.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: The chairman, the one who violated the executive committee. Okay.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: He said the.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: Word pressure three times, three times at the end of
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: the meeting, after all was said and done. It was
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: almost an apology from the chairman. I gee whiz, we
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: just we get into these time situations and we get
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: under these deadlines, and yeah, we felt pressure to move forward.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: He said, pressure three times.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Pressure related to the federal dollar deadline that the developer
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: was waiting for.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: That's right, Okay.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: The other component of this is, and I guess the
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: folks on the West side might be scratching their head
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: over it. This is one hundred and sixty seven units,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty parking spaces. I think you told
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: me yes. And it's right next to.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: West High right across the street from West High End
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: Data High School. And there's two thousand kids that go
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: to that school every morning and every afternoon coming out
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: and hitting the streets, and they've even come up the
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: students at West Tie. The city has been so poor
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: about pedestrian safety in that area that the students themselves
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: have come up with a pedestrian safety plan. Okay, no kidding.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: And then the city said that we didn't need a
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: traffic study for the development.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: You're adding that many people in an already congested area
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: and they don't need a traffic study, that's right. So
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: it's just gave. Everything's gonna be the same, nothing's going
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: to change, that's right. How can they possibly say that
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: with a straight face? He did.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: I spoke to a traffic guy personally, and he did
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: say it with a straight face.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Holy cow. Toddszenser.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's really something. If you say affordable housing,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: everything else goes out the window.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Keep that in mind. I'd like a raise. Affordable housing,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: no problem, you got one seven twenty five if you
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: five cares detoxtation more Todds Enser. Yes, we've only scratched
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: the service. We'll talk about the flood and the Detox
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: station Bright Times with Citizen Watchdog Todd Zender. I recommend
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: strong to find his podcast for your podcast, Citizen watch Dog.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Todds Enser, I can't get away from this
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: housing development. Now, moving away from the specifics of that project.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: The idea is you're bringing in more unquote affordable housing unit,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: which is I guess new speak for government subsidized housing,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: and that subsidy for the folks that are in these
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: particular dwellings which are income capped, right, I mean, you
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: don't qualify to get into one of these quote quote
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: afforable units unless you make less than a certain amount
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: of money. So you then have bought into the proposition.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: By building it, you are guaranteeing and ongoing and constant
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: funding of rent payments by government, whether it's Section eight
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: or some federal program. The taxpayer dollars will basically allow
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: them to afford to live there. So how does as
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: a business model for a city bringing in folks who
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: will perpetually be having their rent subsidized and I don't know,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: maybe even snap benefits or some other welfare program, which
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: I think that's logical to assume that that's going on.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: So bringing in a bunch of people who are basically
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: perpetually dependent upon government, does that translate into revenue or
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: better things for the city. It sounds to me like
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: more of an obligation for the city, because, let's face it,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: with the deficit and all the other you know, ongoing problems,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: the infrastructures decaying and eroding, and even the point you
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: made off air, the government subsidized houses that are out there,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: the affordable housing you have said, are in a dilapidated state,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: the stuff that's been around for a long time and
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: no one takes care of it, and they're horror shows
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: when you go into them.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Westwood has has a couple of notorious multifamily developments
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: that are crime ridden, and if you look ten years
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: down the road, this plan development could be the same way.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: And well, if history is a guide, I think you
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: can pretty much count.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: On it, right, Well, that's what that's what I think.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, because you exercise a tremendous amount of logic
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: and reason and your decision making processes, they're todd I
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: just I mean, I don't want to sound like you
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: and I and we are not disparaging the poor among us,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's something that we are always going
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: to have to contend with. But the city's struggling financially anyway.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: This is just fighting on more of a financial struggle
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: as opposed to the whole idea. Let's say regentrifying over
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: the Rhine. Why did you want to do that? Why
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: was all the money invested in to bring tax paying
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: urban hipsters in there to work and live, thrive, survive
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: and in a walking community, but basically where they have
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: to pay taxes.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: That's right, And then this project is.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: The exact opposite, right, and I.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: Think part of the plan. I can't be sure, but
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: for those people who are displaced from their gentrification projects,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: this is where they go This Price so yeah, to
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: West Price Hill to Well that was the old.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: That was what was asserted regularly, and I don't know
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: upon what factual basis, but again, just looking at the dynamics.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: When Over the Rhine started getting transformed and rehabilitated and polish,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Washington Park got don the street car shows up, rents
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: went up. People who used to live there couldn't afford
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: to live there anymore. Maybe they even got their building
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: purchased out from under them, right, formerly rented building then
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: converted into condos. That happened a lot, yes, and the
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: apparently I mean people noticed that they were either offered
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to move over to the West side of
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati or that's where they chose to live after being displaced.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was turned into all economics.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah okay, and that transformed and changed the dynamic of
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: the West Side pretty prevailed.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: And then on top of that, we're trying to get
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: a handle on how many of these they call them
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: transitional housing or group homes or whatever you want to
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: call them. Those are also subsidized by the government through
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: a multitude of programs, and the West Side in particular
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: has become a magnet for these type of housing options.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: And so we have people coming from other counties, other
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: states to take advantage of the social services on the
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: West Side and the house housing opportunities on the west Side,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: all the mental health providers and drug rehab you know,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: all that it's all coming to the West Side.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: A magnet for people who are reliant upon government and
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars. It becomes a concentrated number of people, all
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: of whom are broadbrush speaking, I get it.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: The city, the city policies like they have with this project,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: continues to concentrate poverty on the West Side, and there's
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: no question about it. And my problem is that that
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: goes against the whole purpose of this low income housing
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: tax credit program, that that program. Part of its rules
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: is that they should not be concentrating poverty, and that's
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: what they're doing. And this woman that's set the back
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: porch on fire of this one woman, Yeah, that is
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: one of the people that is attracted to the West
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: Side for these kind of benefits illustrative.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, not all of them.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: When you get painted with the broad brush, Todd zones,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: you get called out for it constantly. These are genuine problems, though,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: I mean we can sort of tongue in cheek it
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit. In the final analysis, it's effectively an
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: economic war that's being waged.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: Yes, and I don't know. It's not only happening on
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: the West Side, but it is happening in pockets of
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: the city and it's by design.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: Well it is Hyde Park struggling with this kind of
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: problem there, Todd Zenser, Not yet, Yeah, I didn't think so. Okay,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: I wonder why that might be. Huh oh gee, I.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't be surprised if it gets there, though, you.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Think so, yeah, Well, it might change the hearts and
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: minds of voters to maybe choose a different path when
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: they're electing officials a Todd there's an idea.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Brian. It didn't on the Hyde Park
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: Square thing, did it.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: No, it didn't didn't get anybody off their butt to
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: go vote. Seven thirty five Right now more we've got
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: more Shenanigans. Reveal with Todd Zenzer and thank god for him.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: Seven thirty five I fifty five cared do you have KRCD
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: talk dation right times with Todd Zinser, citizen watchdog former
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: inspector Jenner for the United States of America, bringing those
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: skills to his analysis of crazy crap going on from
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati. Thank to our elected officials, you make more
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: informed decisions, and we have Todd here to remind us
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: that we didn't make very good informed decisions in the
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: last election. So the question is, well, the last man
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: bring the flag out? Is it going to crash and
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: burn before the next election cycle? Todd Zinzer, Because what
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: you're telling me things are not looking good, at least
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: from a business standpoint, a business model for the future
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: here in the at least in the city. Let's pick one.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: Should we focus on the flood and the reaction to that,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: the campaign, zero information, the overall poor management which led
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: you to write a forty nine page letter to the auditor.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've got listen dealer choice.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about flooding for a minute. Yeah, let's do that, Okay.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: So a whistleblower came forward to Adam Taylor, Yes, and
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: showed that the the gates for the Madison floodgate had
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: been chained open.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, And the gates come down when the low lying
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: area beneath the bridge gets to a certain water level.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: That's to prevent cars from driving into it and getting
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: into trouble. Right, it's like a traffic or it's like
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: across the gate with the rail.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: That's exactly right, all right. And then when the gates
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: go down, then the floodgate goes across the street, and
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: those gate arms were chained open.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So preventing the water stoppage mechanism from working.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: That's right. And so the story was that, well, it
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: was malfunctioning, and so that's why they changed it, I guess,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: But we don't have a lot of clarity about that.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: But when I looked at it, I says, well, where
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: on the deferred maintenance list is this floodgate malfunctioning? Because
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: they had a report from back in twenty two. I
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: believe twenty twenty two that the thing needed to be replaced.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: They needed to The recommendation.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: Was the bridge a bridge? So five years ago, yes,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: I mean the problem that had been identified, A study
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: was done in the response to the flooding problem was well,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: we need to have a wider path, we need to
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: have a big, different bridge which will allow the water
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: to get through.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: So then the city decided that we were going to
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: sell our one hundred and thirty year old railway to
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: raise money to fix these kind of things. So I
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: pulled out the deferred maintenance list that they put together
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: before the railway.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: Sale, work that they didn't do, And.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: Then I looked at Sincely on Track to see where
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: this floodgate might be listed as a project. And I
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: found that there was no sewer district, water district, or
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: storm water management utility projects in any of the city's
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: planned projects with the railway money. There's no mention in
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: Sincely on Track, which is their plan for spending the way. Yeah,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: there's no mention in there about our sewer system, our
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: water system.
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  Speaker 1: It's really incredible, aren't we subject to a consent decree?
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: Because of so much work that hadn't been done over
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: the years, the deteriorating situation of our sewer and water systems.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: And that that could go on in perpetuity. From what
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: I understand, the consent decree on the on the combined
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: sewer overflow, that consent decree, I think can go on
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: for imperpetuity.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: And that means billions of dollars worth of work.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, So the question is, well, why why wasn't some
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: of the work that needs to be done, Why wasn't
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: that put into our plan? Why wasn't the Madison floodgate
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: put into the plan? And there's no, there's no sewer
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: or water related projects in the plan.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: Those are all existing infrastructure.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Exactly, and existing infrastructure that needs maintenance and repair well.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: So much so that we hit we were subject to
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: a consent degree with the federal government for all kinds
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: of pollution violet.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: So it's very it's very wacky what happened. I went
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: back and said, well, how did this how did this
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: list get put together? And and this this tells you
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: how devious this city council is. They started looking into
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: what the deferred maintenance was before they even before the
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: deferred maintenance needs were before they even announced that they
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: were going to try to sell the railway. So the
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: city council asked the administration, the city manager to look
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: at deferred maintenance needs in five departments. Those five departments
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: did not include the sewer department or the waterworks or
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: anything like that, so at the get go. From the
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: get go, that list was deficient. But it it looks good.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: And I'm not sure why they didn't include any of
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: those projects, like maybe because it's those those functions. Those
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: departments are supposed to be self financing. There's enterprise funds
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: where the fees that they collect are supposed to pay
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: for their operations. Well, does that include all this maintenance
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: that they're supposed to be doing. It's really a mystery
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: It really is more with Todd Zenzer, and I assure
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: you the additional information Todd will be sharing with us
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: here in the fifty five Carsite morning shure won't be positive,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: smiley face happy information. Sadly, none of it has been
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: this morning. This is why we need to talk about
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: it so much. Seven the Talk Station seven fifty to
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: fifty five KRCIT Talk Station, Happy Friday. Todd Zenser in
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: studio Citizen Watchdog is the name of the podcast. That's
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: what we call Todd Zenser because he is former Inspector General.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Before we get to I guess we'll close up with
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: campaign zero, reflecting what happens when you drop the ball
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: and allow outside organizations to sort of steer the narrative
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: as wrong as it may be. One of the remind
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: folks at top of the our new is Eric Conroy,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: who's running against Greg Landsman. He'll be in studio plus
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Jack winsor in the next hour. All right. So contact cards, yes,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: a source of information. It's when a police officer interacts
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: with a member of the Cincinnati community.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: Right, a traffic stop or a pedestrian stop.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: All right, they have to explain the who, what's why when?
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: Of course, age, race, heightweight, all it's identified on a
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: contact card. The purpose of the contact card was to
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: do what and when did these things start being used?
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: The contact cards came out of the Collaborative Agreement back
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: in the early two thousands. So this has been going
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: on a while, Yeah, about seventeen years or so old.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: Right, think, so fine, collect the information, but then what
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: was supposed to have been done with the contact cards
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: after they were created.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: Well, they should have been doing something that the whole
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: purpose was to document whether or not the police were biased.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: All right, you know.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: The minority community. Okay, those where a lot of the
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: stops are happening.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: And as I understand it, the University of Cincinnati was
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: paid to create a thoughtful, reasonable mechanism to analyze the
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: contact cards.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: That's right. What happened in twenty seventeen, the city brought
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: back the federal monitor that was overseeing the collaborative and
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: when he looked at the status of things with the city,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: one of the things he pointed out is that, hey, great,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: you're collecting these contact cards, but you're not analyzing them.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: So the city manager at the time contracted with the
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: University of Cincinnati to come up with a model that
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: they could use to do that type of analysis. And
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: then I'm still in the process of trying to get
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: their records. But the city never implemented whatever the University
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: of Cincinnati came up with.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: So if you see paid to do something, here's your
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: analysis process that was never put into place. But the
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: card information was posted and available for anybody who wanted
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: to take a look at it, right, which is exactly
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: what Campaign zero did.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: And Campaign zero, I think you maybe have mentioned Marxism,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: but they were a very very far left advocacy y
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt, and so they're like a defund
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: police type endity, absolutely all right. So they took it
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: upon themselves to take this information and draw their own conclusions,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: not following the University of Cincinnati's model, which you can't
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: find yet, but using their own, which maybe has some
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: bias built into a.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: Todd that's correct.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: Uh huh? How about that? And they come out and
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: accused the police officers of being racist all because the
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: City of Cincinnai didn't do its own contact.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: The city got caught with their pants down, there's no
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: question about it.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: So if the city had its own analysis and University
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati's methodology was applied and it showed no, there
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: isn't bias, this is explainable for any number of reasons.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: Here's the reasons why they could have pulled out that
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: report and said, oh, come on, Campaign zero, this has
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: already been an analyst by a neutral set of governing principles.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: So Campaign zero is then left with their conclusions which
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: aren't which aren't countered by anything.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: That's correct. My thinking is that if Cincinnati had followed
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: through with the UC model, campaign zero would have never
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: come here.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: I looked at her. You get out in front of
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: the problem, That's right.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: I looked at for example, a New Orleans Police department
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: is also or was also I think it still is
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: under a consent to CREE. They are doing an annual
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: report on their bias free policing, and Campaign zero has
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: never gone there.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: So if Cincinnati had done what.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: They were told to do in twenty seventeen.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: That's right, Campaign zero would have never come here. That's
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: my view anyway.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: See, this is why I love you, Todd zenzer Man,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: just boiling it down to its simple as points incompetence,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: rules to day in city government. And you have these
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: nefarious actors in here to make things absolutely worse for
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: us because I'm not certain Campaign zero is really interested
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: in racial harmony.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: To be honest with you, well, I don't disagree, Todd.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. On behalf of my listening audience,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: whether they fully appreciate the hard work you do or not.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: They should and I do, and I know a lot
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: of folks do. And I hope that the city Council
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: would take upon taking upon themselves to listen to you
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: and to analyze what you have provided to them time
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: and time and time again. Seven fifty five. Right now
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from Eric Conroy. You have an option
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: when it comes to well, got option against Greg Lansman.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: It's Eric Conroy. Eric's gonna join the studio after the
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: top of the air news. Then we're gonna hear from
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: a high Press Networks Jack Winsor, who's got some great
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: things to talk about, including the Qusted Brown raised and
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: socialist housing policy, which I think Todd just kind of
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: touched upon during our discussion here in this hour. Don't
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: go away and be right back.
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  Speaker 6: Celebrating two hundred and fifty years of the iHeartRadio app
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• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: to look across the table here or the border or
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to call this big piece of furniture
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the room seeing Eric Conroy, and
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: you can find Eric right now. Just go to ericconroyd
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: dot com. Logically and reasonably spelled as you might think
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: it would be spelled Ericconroy dot com. He is running
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: for Congress and his opponent is a name familiar to
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: my listening audience and probably one that doesn't come across
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: with great appeal. Greg Landsman, good to see you again, Eric,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming to the program.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 6: Ryan, thanks for having me on.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: As always by way of well introduction. For my listeners
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: who might not be yet familiar with your background, I
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: think you have a great background. I want to start
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: by thanking for your service to our country. You did
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: enlist in the United States Air Force, attended the United
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: States Air Force Academy, You served as an intelligent officer,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: and you were deployed for a couple of years in Okinawa,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: and you served in Washington, d C. For a long
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: time I guess with the CIA. But congratulations for your
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: service to our country. Thank you for your service to
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: our country and for your ongoing service as an operative
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: with the CIA, and for now running for Congress. Your
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: motivation is to get involved in this quagmire, this mess
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: that is the political reality of Washington, DC. That is
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: not a challenge that I think I would be up to.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: And of course I always say I'd never run for
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: political office. But what's motivating you, my friend?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think we need common sense, practical people there
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 6: who want to be solutions oriented. And you know, with
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 6: my fourteen years and the Air Force and the CIA,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 6: I've really dedicated my life to service, and I viewed
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 6: this as that next chapter in a life of service.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 6: And you know, my family's been here for one hundred
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 6: and thirty years, mostly on the West Side, and I
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 6: care deeply about the future success of this region and
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 6: I think we need a common sense conservative to take
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 6: it into the future. And our current comic, Greg Lansman
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 6: is really anything but common sense, right. This is a
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 6: guy who supports open borders, he wants men and women's sports,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 6: and he vote it for the largest tax increase in
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 6: American history. And furthermore, he is lying to voters when
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 6: he campaigns as a moderate and then votes as a
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 6: leftist in DC. And quite frankly, Greg Lansman is not
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 6: the moderate he claims in time m to go.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and you know, look at the Democratic Party generally there,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are seeing er people than the l
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: z i eds and the Zorhan mam Dami's. There are
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: traditional Democrats still in the Democrat Party, they don't do
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: a whole lot to stand up against this wave of
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: hardcore Marxism that's invaded their party. In fact, they're encouraged
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: to sort of support it, embraces We have one big
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: ten here, you know, we have all kinds that Greg
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: Landsman's going to vote for whatever Marxist crap they advance.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: As far as in terms of legislation.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 6: It's a it's a scary timer in Brian And a
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 6: stat I saw this week is that sixty percent folks
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: in the Democratic Party or view socialism favorably, and that
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 6: is unacceptable. And really, you look here at the Democratic
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 6: primary that was in May when we had Damon Lynch
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 6: run against Craig Lansman. He got thirty five percent of
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 6: the primary vote against an uncumbent congressman running mostly on
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 6: an anti Semitic socialist platform.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: It is absurd.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 6: And Damon spent zero money in that race too, so
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 6: to get thirty five percent of the vote on a socialist,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: anti Semitic platform, this is scary, and I think it
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 6: just really re emphasizes the importance of these mid terms
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 6: and the importance of sending common sense people to.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: DC Amen brother couldn't agree with y'all any more than that.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: Ericconroy dot com real quick here just to remind my
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: listeners if you heard me read it. I think it's
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: an extraordinarily valuable piece to read for yourself. Mark Giannini's
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: piece from Real Real Clear Markets, The COVID lockdown gave
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: America a glimpse of socialism, and he is it's a
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: cold water dose reality about what we live through, and
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: this is exactly the type of thing you're going to
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: live through in a socialist environment. I asked Joe to
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: post a link to the article on my blog page
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: and podcast page fifty five Carcy dot com, or just
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: find the podcast and listen to my reading of the
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: article in the five o'clock hour. Sorry, I just think
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: it was really important books get ahold of that. Eric.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: Now thinking about this socialist wave in in the context
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: of something that you mentioned off air, and I think
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: it's important to talk about because one of the things
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: that you campaign on your platform is secure borders. Of course,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump demonstrated you don't need to change law, you
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: just need to enforce the ones on the book, and
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: lo and behold, our border isn't being overrun, and it
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: was being overrun in spite of the fact that the
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: mainstream media didn't want to reveal it. You know, the
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: Fox News would Breitbart, Wood and other conservative outlets. You
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: had pictures and video. You had the figures that no
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: one seemed to disagree with, somewhere between ten and twenty
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: million government figures, even in the Biden administration talking about
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: the number of known godaways. It was happening here, but
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: you saw it on full display in Morocco the other day.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: And the border was Spain and that Seasup is a
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: peninsula there, eighty thousand or so people and there's another
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: wave coming. Everyone behind the scenes, everyone who's been reporting
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: on this is saying that this is an intentional, organized
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: invasion of military aged Muslim men. Mostly that's an invasion.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 6: It is, And you know, we need to secure the border,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 6: and the administration has done a great job at starting
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 6: to secure the border. And we saw what happened in
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 6: Spain and Morocco. And before we got on air, I
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: told you my anecdote of when I was in Poland
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 6: when you were there, they literally flew in migrants from
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 6: the Middle East. I think it was Russia. They flew
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 6: in migrants in the Middle East, flew in the Belarus
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 6: and then told them to run across the border, right,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 6: And this is the kind of activity that our adversaries
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 6: are doing to destabilize the West and our country as well.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 6: So we need to get serious about securing our border.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 6: We need to enforce the laws and the books we
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 6: already have. We don't necessarily need new laws. We just
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 6: need to enforce the ones that we already have. And
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 6: I think if we take that practical, common sense solution
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 6: of enforcing the laws we have on the books and
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 6: having a system what we're doing, we're going to be fine.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 6: But we need to get serious about it.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: Well, there's no question about that. And I guess the
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: largest part of the chunk of the population that the
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: Russians flew in and intentionally invading the area from the
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Syrian military age Syrian meant, I believe.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 6: So I don't recall the scenario specifically, but I believe
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 6: that was part of it. And we've seen the Polish
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 6: government take a really hard stand lately on that border
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 6: end as well they should, and really for us here
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 6: in the US, we need to think about how we
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 6: got here as well. We got here because Greg Landsman
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 6: and Joe Biden lit in millions of illegal immigrants, and
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 6: it's problematic, right, It's destabilizing the country, it's a strain
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 6: on our systems, and it's also very disingenuous to people
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 6: who do the immigration process the right way.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 6: I talked to a good friend of mine this weekend
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 6: and he is of Taiwanese descent. You know how long
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 6: it took him to get his citizenship, which he's so
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 6: proud of.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, I've heard as long as ten years.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 6: Ten years. It was ten years. And I'm not saying
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 6: it should take ten years. I think that's a little
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 6: too long. But when we let people come in illegally
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 6: and circumvent that system and skip the line, it is
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 6: really an insult to the people who are trying to
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  Speaker 6: do it the right way.
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  Speaker 1: Well awful path to citizenship is steeped in this idea
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  Speaker 1: that you're going to and I'll use the dirty word
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  Speaker 1: propagandize them. In other words, explain to them the cultural
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  Speaker 1: realities of where we live, ensure that they make a
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  Speaker 1: smooth transition, and don't, oh, I don't know, come from
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  Speaker 1: an area perhaps where raping twelve year old girls is
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: an approved, socially acceptable thing, and then having to find
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: out coming here and doing it is not socially acceptable.
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  Speaker 1: But oh well, we'll just give them a slap on
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  Speaker 1: the hand because they aren't familiar with our cultural norms.
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  Speaker 1: That's the pathway to citizenship ten years of becoming aware
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  Speaker 1: and accepting our cultural norms.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 6: And I think we do a better job than most
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  Speaker 6: countries at assimilating.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 6: We've done this for hundreds of years, but we need
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  Speaker 6: to continue to do that and emphasize that. Now that
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  Speaker 6: we're talking about fun stories from some of my tours,
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  Speaker 6: I can remember one story where I talked to the
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  Speaker 6: Dutch ambassador when I was working in Europe in one
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  Speaker 6: of the cities and before he was in Poland, he
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  Speaker 6: was working at the UN in New York and he goes, Eric,
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  Speaker 6: I went to a naturalization ceremony in New York City
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  Speaker 6: because I just want to see it as a Dutch diplomat, right, Sure,
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  Speaker 6: And he said, you guys assimilate better than any country
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  Speaker 6: in Europe, right, because you've been doing it for a
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  Speaker 6: long time. However, we need to make sure we keep
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  Speaker 6: that standard going and make sure we're incorporating people into
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  Speaker 6: our society the right way.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and you know, having the freedoms and liberties we had,
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  Speaker 1: you know, pre welfare state, I think we were to
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  Speaker 1: effectively drain the world of all the best and bright
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  Speaker 1: is because anybody with an idea and a work ethic
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  Speaker 1: could come here, enjoy the freedoms and liberties and take
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  Speaker 1: that work ethic and those beautiful, amazing ideas and turn
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  Speaker 1: them into personal gain and capital. It was a great magnet.
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  Speaker 1: It worked forever and ever. But the problem with modern
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  Speaker 1: immigration is there's no check on you know, drains on
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: our system. When we have a country that hooks people
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  Speaker 1: up almost automatically when they cross the border to our
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  Speaker 1: social welfare safety net, it's like a bird. Figure, you're
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of people who are drawn to
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  Speaker 1: take advantage of the social welfare and safety net without
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  Speaker 1: doing a damn thing to lift a finger to put
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  Speaker 1: anything into it. Taxpayer dollars. You mean, I can go
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  Speaker 1: there and live someplace where they're gonna feed clothes, shelter me,
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  Speaker 1: and educate me and my family for free, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't have to do anything. Well, that sounds like a draw,
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  Speaker 1: that sounds like a magnet.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think you've hit on a bigger issue to Brian. Right,
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  Speaker 6: we talked about the left and the rise of socialism
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  Speaker 6: and whether it's with new arrivals to this country or
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 6: maybe youth who are already here. We need to really
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  Speaker 6: breed a culture of accountability and independence, right, and that
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 6: does mean a little bit of entrepreneurship as well, and
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  Speaker 6: I think that's what makes us this country great. This
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  Speaker 6: is why we create terrific businesses even as we have
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  Speaker 6: that culture of accountability and independence to get things done.
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  Speaker 6: And really that's really the mentality and the bedrock of
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  Speaker 6: the American dream. If people own those values of accountability
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 6: and independence, we're going to continue to take this country
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 6: into very great heights in the future. But at the
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 6: same time, we're seeing how the socialist swing of the
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 6: Democratic Party wants to take it to reverse right, I
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 6: want to they want to make it an anarchic nanny state,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 6: and we just can't have it.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It during the pod of descent based upon class
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: envy and greed and envy and covetousness, which we all
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: struggle with on to some degree, but then saying you
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: know what, You're in a bad place and it's all
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: someone else's fault. We just need to change the system
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: and everything's going to work out right. No, that's an
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: outright lie. And again I'll go back to that column
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  Speaker 1: I read this morning, remember COVID. Yeah, that's life under
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: socialism basically, don't go away. It's eight sixteen right now.
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  Speaker 1: We got more to talk about with Eric Conroy again.
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  Speaker 1: Please visit his campaign page Ericconroy dot com. There's a
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  Speaker 1: donate button right there. I bet he'd be happy to
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: get you a yard sign as well, and maybe an
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: opportunity to help it out. He could use the help
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  Speaker 1: and I encourage you to help him more with Eric
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  Speaker 1: Conroy don't go away. Fifty five krc sense in that Hey,
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifty five KRCD talks station. Coming up next, it'll
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  Speaker 1: be Jack Windsor from the High Pressnetwork dot com. Time.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: Eric Conroy's here. He's running against Greg Lansman with good reason,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: and just to put an exclamation point on the open
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: borders thing and the realities that are going on there.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: You're strong on closing the borders and maintaining the security
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: that we need. Greg Lansman, because that's your opponent. He's
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  Speaker 1: in favor of naturalizing or legitimizing all the folks, the
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: illegal immigrants that came into our country I presume yes. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So in addition to me and continuing the open borders concept,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: there is no illegal anymore. It's welcome in. You are
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: have every right to get a job and stay here
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: and of course take advantage of our social welfare safety net.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 6: That is what he stands for, right, he stands we're
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 6: open borders and those trains in our system, right and
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 6: we need to get back to our regular immigration system.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 6: This is secure in the border first.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Now, pivoting over we have we could go
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: across multiple criticism we might have of Greg Landsman. But
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: you mentioned this concept of insider trading, which maybe may
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: present problem for Greg. Can you explain that one for me?
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: Am I listening on you.
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  Speaker 6: Well, firstly, we need to send people to DC who
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 6: are there for the right reasons, for people who want
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 6: to serve and not to earn. And Greg I think
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 6: has gone there for the wrong reasons.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 6: This is a guy who is busted for breaking the
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 6: Stockdact in twenty twenty five. He broke he broke the
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 6: law and then to hide it from the working class
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 6: families of this region. He went back and rewrote three
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 6: years worth of financial disclosures, covering up dozens of trades
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 6: worth over a million dollars. And not only that, but
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 6: as net worth has tripled tripled, Brian in just a
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 6: few years on the hill. Now, is this a person
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 6: who's there for the right reasons? Sounds like he's putting
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 6: profits not only above his own party, but also above
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 6: the people here in southwest Ohio. And I, Brian, I
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  Speaker 6: promise for this region. I've always put service before self
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  Speaker 6: and I will go and represent this region with dignity.
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  Speaker 1: And DC, well, is this because he's just an enjoyed
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: the advantage of an expanding, exploding stock market. I guess
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: I'm struggling how someone who makes it's one hundred and
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: seventy five thousand a year right, basically, how do you
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  Speaker 1: triple your wealth in such a short period of time?
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: I have to meet his investment.
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  Speaker 6: Sounds like there's a mix up of priorities on why
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 6: someone goes to DC.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: Their enough, What are those truly important to you? I
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: know you. Everybody can check out your campaign platform on
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: your site. You got education, transportation, infrastructure. We talked about
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: border security, already. You're obviously concerned about the American veteran.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: So if you had to pick something in the last
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: couple of minutes here with my listeners of me today
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: and you'll be on again before the election, I sure hope.
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  Speaker 1: But what do you want to focus on there, Eric.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, we've talked a lot about the economy
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 6: and affordability, and that comes up and just about every conversation.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 6: But another topic that comes up quite a bit is crime, right,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 6: and we need to solve the crime issue. And we
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 6: have a crime issue downtown and we need save streets
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  Speaker 6: and I know it because I live downtown and I
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 6: see the issue every day. And really, until folks can
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 6: feel comfortable while king from Finlay Market to Great American Ballpark,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 6: we have work to do right. And it's not just
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 6: a public safety issue, but it's also an economic development
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 6: issues well.
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  Speaker 1: And on the heels of my conversation with Todd zinz Er,
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  Speaker 1: I think we had a real problem over on Glenmoey
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  Speaker 1: Avenue where they're going to put one hundred and sixty
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: seven new affordable housing in other words, government subsidized housing,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: and they didn't need to do a traffic study, but
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: the complaints from residents in that area. There is some
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: serious crime going on over in the West Side within
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: the city limits. Prostitution, drug sales, solicitation, defecation, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: all the things it sounds like coming from downtown San Francisco.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and look, we need to get back to the basics, right,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 6: just like immigration. And my opponent, Greig Landsman, was a
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 6: part of the defund the police crowd in his earlier days,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 6: and now he wants to not fund DHS either. And
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 6: you know, I listened to his interview when the brawl
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: happened downtown. Sure, it's actually right around the corner from
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 6: my apartment. And you know what he said. The solution was,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 6: let's make sure that anti theft systems on cars work better.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 6: That is literally what he said in a TV interview
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 6: after that brawl. And we really just need to get
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 6: back to a common sense approach, which means enforcing our
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 6: laws on the books and making sure our law enforcement
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  Speaker 6: organizations are well staffed and they are the training and
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 6: the resources they need.
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  Speaker 1: And that we make better, more responsible choices when it
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: comes to not only elected officials like Eric Conroy in
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: terms of serving in the House representatives, but here locally.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: In terms of our judicial choices, you got soft on
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: crime judges, Kerry Bloom Juvenile Court administrative head. How about
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: voting for someone like Susan Lucan, who was on our
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: program yesterday, for the juvenile court tough on crime, and
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: of course that's a key element for the criminal justice system.
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  Speaker 1: Accountability and that idea that you're going to deter crime
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: by pointing out that if you engage in crime, you
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: will be punished for it. Talk about a workable justice system.
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  Speaker 1: Eric Conroy knows all about that. Ericconroy dot com, hey man,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking up the challenge and
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: running against Greg Lansman. I know you will do well.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: I love your policy platform. We've talked quite a bit
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: over the last year or so, and I know you
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: were coming from the right place, and I'll encourage my
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: listeners to of course vote for you, but also in
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: making your own decisions. Go to Ericconroy dot com and
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: check out the platform and maybe consider helping him out. Eric,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: you always got a venue here in the fifty five
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  Speaker 1: Casing Mornings and I'll look forward to having you back on.
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  Speaker 3: Brian.
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  Speaker 6: Hey thanks to your time and just as one parting shot.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 6: We need to win these midterms. That's the House, that's
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 6: the judicial races that you mentioned, and also our governor
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 6: and Senate race here in Ohio. So these midterms are
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 6: critical when you need everyone out there.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: We do, and that's a topic we'll talk about coming
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: up next with Jack Windsor from the Ohio Press Network.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: We'll also talk about him with talk about socialist housing
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: policy and the cost of Ohio family to Ohio families,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: and he'll break down the current status of the John
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: Houston Shared Brown Race. Stick around for Jack Windsor. He'll
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  Speaker 1: be up next. This is fifty five karc an iHeartRadio station.