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- 0:03>> Dr. Terry Simpson: M Today, we're going to talk about poop. Keep your
- 0:06poop in a group. Get your together. All right,
- 0:09we're going to talk about fiber. And before you
- 0:12turn this off, a fair warning. There will be a few
- 0:15dad jokes today, because every dad needs a dad
- 0:18joke or two. And if you can't laugh while learning
- 0:21about digestion, you're taking life and yourself a
- 0:24little too seriously. Now, fiber is about poop,
- 0:28but it's also about a lot more than poop. It's
- 0:31about lowering your risk of colon cancer. It's
- 0:34about smoothing glucose spikes. It's about
- 0:37avoiding hemorrhoids, diverticulosis,
- 0:39diverticulitis, and spending less time in the
- 0:42bathroom wondering if the phone is about to fall
- 0:44into the toilet. I know you've had it happen. I
- 0:48saw. And by the way, that's not a productivity
- 0:50issue. It's a fiber issue. When I run into the
- 0:54true carnivores and they always identify
- 0:57themselves immediately, they are very eager to
- 1:00tell me fiber is not an essential nutrient. And
- 1:03technically, they are correct. There is no classic
- 1:06fiber deficiency disease, no scurvy of spinach, no
- 1:11berry berry of bran. But medicine isn't just about
- 1:14what kills you quickly. It is about what breaks
- 1:18systems down slowly. And here is the part that
- 1:22never gets mentioned. I hear influencer after
- 1:25influencer obsess about protein, protein goals,
- 1:29protein timing, protein powders with names that
- 1:32sound like Marvel villains. And yet true protein
- 1:35deficiency in the United States, even among
- 1:37bariatric surgery patients, is rare. But 92% of
- 1:42Americans do not get enough fiber. 92%. And that
- 1:46lack of fiber is exactly why some people are stuck
- 1:49on the toilet with the latest squatty, potty
- 1:51scrolling, waiting, hoping, maybe even listening
- 1:55to my podcast, but quietly increasing their risk
- 1:58of rupturing a diverticulum or developing worse
- 2:01hemorrhoids. So today on 4Q, we are going to make
- 2:05sense of the madness of fiber. I am your Chief
- 2:11Medical Explanationist, Dr. Terry Simpson, and
- 2:14this is 4Q Fork University, where we bust a few
- 2:18myths, make sense of the madness, and teach you a
- 2:20little bit about food and medicine. Let me tell
- 2:27you a story about oats. Everyone except a few
- 2:31rubbish people agree that oats are healthy. The
- 2:34vast majority of literature shows that people who
- 2:36eat oats have less obesity, less diabetes, smaller
- 2:39circumference of their waistline. And everybody
- 2:42knows that oats have fiber. And steel cut oats
- 2:45probably have the most fiber. Well, groats have
- 2:47the most fiber, goes groats, steel cut oats,
- 2:49rolled oats, instant oats. But so One week, I
- 2:52decided to be very responsible and increase my
- 2:55morning fiber. Now, this was many years ago when
- 2:58I, um, was not so sophisticated about all this
- 3:00stuff. And I was in meetings all that week with
- 3:02colleagues. And every morning there was coffee and
- 3:04steel cut oatmeal. And they made it deliciously
- 3:07steel cut. It was nutty. It was delicious. So I
- 3:10joined in. Day one, fine. Day two, my bowels
- 3:13started getting the message. I was full. I was a
- 3:17little bloated. I was a little m expressive. By
- 3:21the time I got back to my office, this was no
- 3:23longer subtle. So I did what any reasonable
- 3:26physician would do. I opened a window and I lit a
- 3:29candle. I had one of those big old school desks,
- 3:32papers everywhere, large oak frame. And then I got
- 3:35a phone call. And I turned my back on the desk
- 3:38while I was answering the phone call. When I
- 3:40turned around, some papers were on fire and I had
- 3:43to put it out. And for years, that dark scorch
- 3:47mark on my desk reminded me of a very important
- 3:50lesson. Do not jump from low fiber to high fiber
- 3:55overnight. Your gut needs time to adapt. And yes,
- 4:00my desk paid the price for my confidence. That's
- 4:03why it's called a trial by fiber.
- 4:08>> Dr. Terry Simpson: Hi, it's producer Ivo jumping in here, saying I
- 4:11had no advance warning of any of this.
- 4:17>> Dr. Terry Simpson: All right, so what does fiber actually do? Or as
- 4:21some might say, what does fiber does? Fiber is a
- 4:24carbohydrate that humans don't digest. So you
- 4:26would never count it as a part of the fiber if
- 4:28you're counting carbs, which you shouldn't be, but
- 4:30you would never count it for added sugar. But
- 4:33there are different types of fiber. Okay, so we're
- 4:36going to go over this. It's not that boring, I
- 4:38promise. I want you to think of soluble fiber like
- 4:41the oats that I had. Barley beans, psyllium. And
- 4:43they form a gel in your gut. This gel slows
- 4:46absorption, which means that the glucose isn't
- 4:49absorbed as rapidly, so the glucose doesn't spike.
- 4:52And because your liver makes cholesterol, how it
- 4:55gets your cholesterol into your bloodstream is it
- 4:57dumps the cholesterol into your bile, which goes
- 4:59into your small bowel.
- 5:01>> Dr. Terry Simpson: And.
- 5:01>> Dr. Terry Simpson: And when you have fiber, it absorbs some of that
- 5:04cholesterol, which is why fiber lowers your low
- 5:07density lipoprotein cholesterol. And that, by the
- 5:10way, is why psyllium shows up in all the clinical
- 5:12guidelines. Now, insoluble fiber is simpler. This
- 5:16is what. Well, we'll call it the make your poop
- 5:18better fiber. It adds bulk, it speeds transit, and
- 5:21it makes things predictable. It also does the
- 5:25opposite. So if you have really loose stools,
- 5:28let's say you ate something you shouldn't have or
- 5:31have a little bit of distress fiber will actually
- 5:33help you. People who have problems with bile,
- 5:36salt, diarrhea, we put them on a higher fiber
- 5:38diet. People who have fatty diarrhea or other
- 5:41things, we put them on a higher fiber diet. But
- 5:44here's the thing. If you're on a GLP1, I am, for
- 5:47example, and you're constipated, I am not. You
- 5:50need to have fiber in your diet. Magnesium gummies
- 5:54are not a long term bowel plan. They're a side
- 5:57hustle. Insoluble fiber is the plumbing that you
- 6:00need. So I want you to realize that fiber just
- 6:04keeps things moving forward. All right, I'll see
- 6:09myself out.
- 6:10>> Dr. Terry Simpson: Yeah. If you honestly believe he's through, you're
- 6:13fooling yourself or haven't listened to these long
- 6:16enough. Okay, let's go, doc.
- 6:19>> Dr. Terry Simpson: Here's the other part that gives some people
- 6:21trouble. It's called fermentable fiber. This is
- 6:24things like beans, onions, garlic, asparagus,
- 6:27resistant starches. This is the fiber that feeds
- 6:30your gut bacteria. And when you feed the so called
- 6:34good bacteria, the part of your microbiome that
- 6:36you want, those microbiome tend to grow better and
- 6:40they will crowd out, uh, those bacteria that don't
- 6:43like fiber as much. And those good bacteria, they
- 6:47produce short chain fatty acids. This isn't fat.
- 6:51These are short chain fatty acids that your body
- 6:53uses for basic building blocks. And the most
- 6:55important one they make is butyrate. Which brings
- 6:58me to one of my favorite Internet myths. I've had
- 7:01carnivore people tell me very confidently that
- 7:04butyrate comes from butter. That butter is called
- 7:07butter because it contains butyrate. No, butter is
- 7:11called butter because the word comes from the
- 7:12Latin and the Greek, meaning cow cheese. Now,
- 7:15butyric acid was named because it was first
- 7:18isolated from a rancid butter, but not because
- 7:21butter is a good way to get it. The butyrate that
- 7:23matters is made in your colon by bacteria from
- 7:27fermentable fiber. Dietary butyrate from butter is
- 7:32absorbed in the small intestine and disappears. I
- 7:35mean, if butter were good colon therapy,
- 7:37gastroenterologists would prescribe croissants.
- 7:40And sadly, they do not. I mean, if croissants
- 7:44fixed your gut, Paris would be the healthiest city
- 7:46on, on earth. Now, let's talk about fiber
- 7:49supplements. And there are a lot of them out
- 7:51There. Benefiber, psyllium, husk, metamucil,
- 7:54citrusyl, others. And most of them will give you 4
- 7:56to 5 grams of fiber. That's about 10% of what you
- 8:00should get in a day. Helpful? Yes. Enough, No. I
- 8:05personally like a fiber supplement called Loam L O
- 8:08A M M which gives you about 12 grams of mixed
- 8:11fiber. And I use it in my morning smoothie. Now
- 8:14that's a bridge. It's not a replacement. But if
- 8:16your entire fiber strategy fits in a scoop, you're
- 8:20missing the point. Let's talk about irritable
- 8:23bowel syndrome or ibs. These people are the ones
- 8:25that'll say fiber makes them feel worse. Sometimes
- 8:29at first they're right. Because fermentable fiber
- 8:32produces gas and IBS guts are sensitive to gas.
- 8:37We're all sensitive to gas. Some clinicians use
- 8:41what's called the fodmap diet as a temporary
- 8:43elimination tool to identify the triggers. But we
- 8:46don't live there. We use a Mediterranean style
- 8:49diet, which in recent series has been shown more
- 8:51important to identify problems and reintroduce
- 8:53foods. Now, I've heard some of the paleo ancestral
- 8:57diet people say, oh, use the whole 30. It's an
- 8:59elimination diet. It's not. It's low carb cosplay.
- 9:03We eliminate to learn, not to live. Afraid of
- 9:07food. Now people ask, what does eating enough
- 9:10fiber actually look like? Because you want to do
- 9:12this without thinking about it. And if you want, I
- 9:15have a three day Mediterranean diet that's free on
- 9:18terrysimpson.com but let me walk you through a
- 9:20simple day. In my morning, I have oats, berries, a
- 9:23little bit of nuts, maybe some chia seeds. In my
- 9:26smoothie that's a combination of soluble and
- 9:28insoluble fibers and some polyphenols. For lunch,
- 9:32I'll have some vegetables, carrots, some beans or
- 9:35lentils. I'll have some whole grains, like maybe
- 9:37a, uh, sandwich. And this is where the microbiome
- 9:40starts smiling. For snack, I'll have a stone
- 9:43fruit, maybe some nuts. I don't have a protein
- 9:46bar. Most of those kind of have the texture of
- 9:48drywall and the taste close to what I would
- 9:50imagine drywall would taste like. And dinner is
- 9:53pretty simple. I have some vegetables and I have
- 9:55whole grains like farro and some fish or poultry.
- 9:59Now, this kind of eating routinely delivers about
- 10:0125 to 40 grams of fiber. No spreadsheets, no apps,
- 10:05no drama. And with my loam, I'm getting in at
- 10:09least 37 to 50 grams of fiber easily. So if you're
- 10:14part of that 92%. And if you're listening to this,
- 10:17you probably are that are not getting enough
- 10:19fiber. Go slow, increase gradually. Make sure
- 10:22you're well hydrated. Remember my desk. And
- 10:25remember this. You're not fragile, but you might
- 10:28be flammable. Now, fiber isn't magic. It's not
- 10:36trendy. It doesn't have any influencers. It needs
- 10:40forks. And if you're bringing your phone into the
- 10:43bathroom just in case, that's not aging, that's
- 10:46fiber deficiency. Please see the blog associated
- 10:54with this@yourdoctorsorders.com and and check out
- 10:58my substack@drsimpson.com the podcast was
- 11:02researched and written by me, Dr. Terry Simpson.
- 11:04And while I am a board certified physician, I am
- 11:07not your physician. And before making any changes
- 11:10to your diet, please talk with your board
- 11:11certified physician and a registered dietitian.
- 11:14Don't talk to a chiropractor or some functional
- 11:16medicine witch doctor guru. All things audio are
- 11:19done by my friends at Simpler media. And the pod
- 11:21got himself Mr. Evo 2 Tara. And producer girl
- 11:24Productions is responsible for making me more
- 11:27interesting than I am. Have a good week,
- 11:29everybody. Hey, Evo, what's your favorite fiber?
- 11:45And keep candles away from the oats, buddy.
- 11:50>> Dr. Terry Simpson: Yeah, I'm pretty sure the problem was really more
- 11:53about the methane, uh, than the oats themselves.