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Jennie Garth’s Sex Education from Susan and Kathy of The Golden Bachelor · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome. This is I Do Part two, an innovative,
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  Speaker 1: one of a kind experiment in podcasting and love. We
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  Speaker 1: are going to rip the band aid off you guys
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  Speaker 1: and talk about all the things you need to know
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  Speaker 1: if you're jumping back into the relationship pool. I did
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  Speaker 1: basically a belly flop when I jump back in. I'd
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  Speaker 1: been married for seventeen years and I would have rather
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  Speaker 1: licked I de can't. I don't know something really gross
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  Speaker 1: than to have to start dating again later in my life.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what happened, and I was not prepared. So
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  Speaker 1: we are going to get you prepped and ready for
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  Speaker 1: this next amazing chapter in your life. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: get you ready to open yourself up to love again,
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  Speaker 1: and I am excited. I'm one of your hosts, Jenny Garth.
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  Speaker 1: This week we are going to talk about a very
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  Speaker 1: important part of a romantic relationship, sex, more specifically sex
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  Speaker 1: in our second act. And if you know me, you
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  Speaker 1: know I can get a little squirmy when the sex
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  Speaker 1: topic comes up. That's one area of my life that
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  Speaker 1: I like to keep private. So I'm so relieved that
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be joined by two fab women. You know,
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  Speaker 1: them from The Golden Bachelor and their podcast, Bachelor Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Golden Hour, Please welcome Susan Knowles and Kathy Schwartz to
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  Speaker 1: the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're beautiful and you're beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: That was a great entry and I am not squeamish
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  Speaker 3: at all.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, good, it's a natural bodily function.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's just jump in. I want to talk to you, ladies,
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  Speaker 1: about what Goldiehan recently said. Goldiehan and Kurt Russell have
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  Speaker 1: been together for forty years, and she recently said that the
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  Speaker 1: secret to a long lasting relationship is good sex. So
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about that. What do you think. Do you
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  Speaker 1: agree when you're in your fifties and your sixties, is
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  Speaker 1: good sex important or is it more about companionship.
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  Speaker 2: I think that good sex is important in every marriage
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  Speaker 2: or every relationship, not even marriage, just every relationship. And
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if you're twenty or seventy. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it looks a little bit different. You know, women
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  Speaker 2: after they go through menopause, you know, get as dry
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  Speaker 2: as the Saharan desert, and that you've got to deal
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  Speaker 2: with that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're ripping it off, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Here nothing's off topic, unless, of course, you get bioidentical hormones.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm as wet as a teenager, so is you not?
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  Speaker 2: Between the two of us were normal?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it's it's very important at least intimacy,
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  Speaker 3: because some men at a certain age cannot perform one way.
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  Speaker 3: There's always orals, you know what you should be very
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  Speaker 3: comfortable with. But intimacy is very important, whether their sexual
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  Speaker 3: act itself is done or not, just making out or touching.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, And I also remember after I went through menopause.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that having sex it was freeing in a
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  Speaker 2: way because you know, you didn't have to worry about
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  Speaker 2: getting pregnant. I remember that distinctly. Oh this is great.
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  Speaker 2: I think frequency changes, not that I didn't use birth control.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying the worry of oh God, did I
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  Speaker 2: take my pill? Where is my I youd gonna fall out?
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  Speaker 2: I mean things, you don't worry about it anymore. But
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  Speaker 2: I think that maybe frequency changes.
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  Speaker 1: How often do you think in a healthy relationship should
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  Speaker 1: somebody be having sex?
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  Speaker 2: What time is it.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have kids in the house anymore, like you
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  Speaker 3: have a lot more free time. So yeah, a lot
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  Speaker 3: more than when I was married raising kids.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so two times a week, three times a week,
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  Speaker 1: four time. I need numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Ends on the.
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  Speaker 4: Week and your life schedule.
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  Speaker 2: I think it depends on the guy. Yeah, it does.
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  Speaker 2: My personal experience has been that. So my husband, you know,
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  Speaker 2: passed away, and my sexual relationships since then have not
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  Speaker 2: been as good as it was for my husband.
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  Speaker 4: But had one. In other words, I had.
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  Speaker 2: I had. The men that I have had sex with,
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  Speaker 2: all of them are on that blue pill. One of
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  Speaker 2: them had an internal battery pack. I mean, yeah, why
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  Speaker 2: did I get to that?
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  Speaker 1: I need to know more about.
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  Speaker 4: This, I tho, I was, can you recharge the battery?
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  Speaker 1: How do you guys even meet your guys?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 1: How do you meet guys?
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  Speaker 4: That's the hard part, is it?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 4: Do I bring that up? I mean I'm dyas okay?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Why we both agree? Dating apps for us, they
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  Speaker 2: they have not worked. And in my case, we've talked
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  Speaker 2: about this too. We're I'm very active. I do lots
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  Speaker 2: of things, you know, bicycle and play golf and walk
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  Speaker 2: and snowski and we're open and we're open to dating
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  Speaker 2: younger men. But it's hard at our age because.
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  Speaker 4: They want somebody younger. They want somebody younger.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the men your age want younger.
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  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, they're fools.
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  Speaker 3: However, we have a little story.
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  Speaker 2: It just happened last night, the night before, and I
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  Speaker 2: can verify this is all true. What she's about to say.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, lay it on me.
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  Speaker 3: So Kathy keeps an eye on my spending, if you will,
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  Speaker 3: because I could go crazy. And we were in the
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  Speaker 3: shopping plaza and I saw a pretty cool store and
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  Speaker 3: not something you see all the time. Of course I
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  Speaker 3: fall love with an outfit. I'm in the dressing room
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  Speaker 3: and the gentleman comes back in to see if I
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  Speaker 3: need anything, and it was expensive, and I said to him,
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  Speaker 3: to me a favor, take my charge, go bring this
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  Speaker 3: up because she don't, you know, a buy.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't want me to bitch and moan about the
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  Speaker 2: money she's spent, because you know, Susans, I was saying,
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  Speaker 2: stop me from shopping until she shops, and then it's
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  Speaker 2: left me shop, so go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: So long story short, he had all my information. I
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  Speaker 3: come out and she catches the sunny out and it
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  Speaker 3: was funny. Two hours three and three hours later we
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  Speaker 3: went to dinner or in the back of an uber
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  Speaker 3: on our way back to the hotel and I get
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  Speaker 3: a text message, Susan, if you'd like to have some
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  Speaker 3: fun before you leave on Friday, I would be happy
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  Speaker 3: to be your boy toy.
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  Speaker 2: What And he was like twenty eight years old? Oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, we had died. We were down. Then the
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  Speaker 2: guy in the uber, I said how old are you?
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  Speaker 2: He goes twenty and I said great, we got a
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  Speaker 2: boy toy shop.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is so fascinating. Okay, so I
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  Speaker 1: did not respond.
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  Speaker 2: You did that?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, not respond?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know what I expected you to respond. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I know, right, I disappointed you. Okay, So, how so
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  Speaker 1: you meet a guy? How long do you wait to
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  Speaker 1: have sex? Like later in life? You because I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: time is ticking and I don't know, I have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time to waste here.
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  Speaker 3: So there used to be a rule, right, you had
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  Speaker 3: to wait I don't know, six dates or three months
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. I don't know if that was a Catholic
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  Speaker 3: thing is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's what we teach our daughters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Really, Oh it's my daughter going to hear this.
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  Speaker 4: Ooops, I don't on the first date.
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  Speaker 2: No, you know, I've had sex with a guy that
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know that well, interestingly, the guy that I
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  Speaker 2: was most interested in since my husband passed away. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't have sex with him because I'm It's not that
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  Speaker 2: I'm old fashioned, it's that I felt like if I
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  Speaker 2: had sex with him, it was going to mean something
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  Speaker 2: to me that we were going down that road, and
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  Speaker 2: I think he was just he kept saying to me,
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  Speaker 2: you know, sex is just an experience and to getting
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  Speaker 2: to know you and not.
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  Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's different. It means different things for different people.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that once you give it up that
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  Speaker 3: you lose control? That's been said, Yeah, once you give
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  Speaker 3: it up, then.
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  Speaker 1: You're invested emotionally. That's for me, yes, yeah, that's I
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  Speaker 1: think the big difference between women and men generally speaking.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think of sex as going out and playing
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  Speaker 2: around of golf like it's it's not. It's an experience,
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  Speaker 2: but it's you know, it's not like grocery shopping either,
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  Speaker 2: like to me at me something.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think to a lot of people it does.
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  Speaker 1: Chemistry is super important, like that energy that you just
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  Speaker 1: almost can't even describe. Have you ever had to end
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  Speaker 1: a relationship because there wasn't chemistry in the bedroom. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: really no, Susan always has chemistry in the bedroom. Liqut her.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wait, so we're could have just stopped it. Susan
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  Speaker 2: has chemistry.
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  Speaker 4: I don't get to the bedroom if there's no chemistry.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. Yeah, I didn't exactly because I didn't end
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  Speaker 2: it because there was no chemistry in the bedroom. I
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  Speaker 2: ended it because the lack of chemistry in the bedroom.
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  Speaker 2: And it was just another thing on the list.
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  Speaker 3: It was like the cherry on top, exactly what I
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  Speaker 3: will share when they don't kiss well or make out well.
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  Speaker 4: That is part of sex.
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  Speaker 1: It's so important.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's part of the partner that doesn't do that part.
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  Speaker 3: Like everything else was great, and I'm like, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: I'm missing that.
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  Speaker 1: You need it. It's good. I mean, at our age,
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  Speaker 1: we know what we want, what we need, and what
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  Speaker 1: we don't want, and we don't that's scary.
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  Speaker 2: Y I will say to you. I think that's another
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  Speaker 2: difference of women being older, or maybe it's just Susan
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  Speaker 2: and I are outspoken. But I have no problem telling
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  Speaker 2: the guy what I want and what works for me.
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  Speaker 2: And I think what younger women sometimes are afraid to
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  Speaker 2: do that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they want to please, please, they want to please.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I make men feel uncomfortable because I tell them what
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  Speaker 3: I do. I have toys, I have my own. I
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  Speaker 3: gave one Kathy for her birthday. It's called the Womanizer.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's made a man. However, I made that
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  Speaker 3: physical touch. I missed that making out. But as far
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  Speaker 3: as pleasing myself or having an orgasm, if you will,
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  Speaker 3: that's done on a regular The closest I.
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  Speaker 2: Have come to an orgasm recently is using Nars blush,
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  Speaker 2: and the name of it is called orgasm.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think you can teach someone to be a
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  Speaker 1: better lover?
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  Speaker 3: You can direct and you can speak it and tell
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  Speaker 3: them what it is you like. Either they know where
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  Speaker 3: that area is or they don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think all men necessarily are invested in learning
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  Speaker 2: how to please a woman.
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  Speaker 3: I think some are and some are well you would
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  Speaker 3: know that.
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  Speaker 2: So you've got to bed Susan.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned before the little blue pill. Yeah, okay, so
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  Speaker 1: I've never messed around with a little blue pill. My
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  Speaker 1: husband is nine years younger than me, So we need
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  Speaker 1: like the opposite, like uh nap, I want instead a
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  Speaker 1: viagra I want nap agra. Viagra is incredibly common with
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  Speaker 1: men of a certain age.
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  Speaker 2: You never would yeah, really since my husband who didn't
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  Speaker 2: need via.
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  Speaker 3: But at they have problems, they have problems.
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  Speaker 2: But so unless you're like Susan, you know, who's got
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  Speaker 2: a pellet in her ass that keeps her, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sliding down the mountain. It's just has sex changes you.
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  Speaker 2: You have to be comfortable using whatever it takes right
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  Speaker 2: to both parties, both what I'm saying, it just looks diffid.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever gotten with a guy and maybe you
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  Speaker 1: didn't discuss it first and then realized, oh, he's on
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  Speaker 1: it and this is going to be a problem tonight.
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  Speaker 3: He's on it, meaning he's taken.
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  Speaker 1: He's taken for a few hours.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, you're like, dude, you better come to Colm
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  Speaker 3: four hours, Tom, Can I just tell you?
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  Speaker 2: I think that's maybe it's having you. It's a myth
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  Speaker 2: that it lasts four hours.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how long did it last? They say?
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  Speaker 3: The commercial says, if in four hours, I don't go down.
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  Speaker 2: To to the hospital, would you love that? Rushing the myth?
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, excuse me, we have a critical issue here.
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  Speaker 1: On it I think they would right away.
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  Speaker 2: The issue, the blue bill issue. Help.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, they should make a blue pill for women.
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  Speaker 2: They do, I will say they do, they, But Jenny,
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  Speaker 2: I will tell you I have a lot of friends
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  Speaker 2: who are younger than I am, in their forties and fifties,
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  Speaker 2: and they, many of them tell me their sex drive
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  Speaker 2: is gone and they don't want sex. And menopausal women, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: menopausal women. I think that's a big issue too.
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  Speaker 3: Not for me, but well, doctor explained to me one time.
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  Speaker 3: He gave me percentages, and I could be off, but
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  Speaker 3: he said eighty some percent of women going through menopause
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  Speaker 3: lose there there, and then a very small percentage stay
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  Speaker 3: the same, and then an even smaller percentage of women
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  Speaker 3: there are libido increases. And I was like a dog
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  Speaker 3: in heat in menopause. Yeah, before that, in my married life,
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  Speaker 3: I was just normal, No, And I didn't know I
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  Speaker 3: could feel certain ways until way later in life.
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  Speaker 1: Like, how how old were you when this happened my fifties?
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  Speaker 2: In your fifties, I was fifty exactly, and I'm like Susan,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't change. I mean, my sex drive was as
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  Speaker 2: always healthy and still is.
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  Speaker 1: I think you guys are lucky.
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  Speaker 2: You're a lot of I'm telling you. And I've talked
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  Speaker 2: to men and some of my friends who are now divorced,
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  Speaker 2: and they said that was one of the big things
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  Speaker 2: that contributed to their divorce. They didn't want sex and
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  Speaker 2: their husband did, and they were like, move on, I can't.
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  Speaker 3: We've all been that person though at night. To keep
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  Speaker 3: your husband happy, you just go through the motions and
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  Speaker 3: hurry up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I know now at this stage of the game, I
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  Speaker 3: enjoy every minute of it, live it up because it's
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  Speaker 3: more about me than about satisfying them.
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  Speaker 1: Now right, Well, that's what happens. You've decided to choose yourself,
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  Speaker 1: which I love so much about you. So is it
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  Speaker 1: weird to discuss sexual history with a partner at this age?
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  Speaker 3: I do ask the question. I mean I haven't in
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  Speaker 3: a few years because I don't had a date, but
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  Speaker 3: I would ask the question, Number one, have you been tested?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, are you healthy? I don't for proof on
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  Speaker 3: the papers, but I do have the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Because you don't want to get as a TV any
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  Speaker 1: kind of no. You want to make sure there again.
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  Speaker 2: And where I'm coming from the sexual experiences I've had,
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  Speaker 2: it's usually Like one guy I dated, he and his
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  Speaker 2: wife had that sex and ten years like he was
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  Speaker 2: like he was re entering the whole world of intimacy,
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  Speaker 2: which I found incredibly bizarre, But you know, it is
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  Speaker 2: something to consider.
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  Speaker 3: I know women that have gone years and have no desire,
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  Speaker 3: which is okay if that's okay with them.
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  Speaker 2: It's only okay in my mind if both parties agreed.
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  Speaker 2: I think that really, you know, they talk about what
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  Speaker 2: hurts marriages. I mean obviously finances, disagreement about finances, raising children,
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  Speaker 2: But I think people underplay how important sex is in
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  Speaker 2: a marriage and can break up a marriage.
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  Speaker 3: I have friends that you know, actually Kathy, that do
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  Speaker 3: not have sex, heat struggles and she doesn't care, so
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  Speaker 3: their marriage is perfect.
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  Speaker 4: They have a great time.
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  Speaker 2: But so, justin why aren't we dating? We are sexual beings.
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  Speaker 3: Well know, you think it's because we're too loud or
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  Speaker 3: up front or too strong strung.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, I mean guys are intimidated by that, but.
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  Speaker 2: We'd like to Oh, sorry, that is the plan.
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  Speaker 1: You're funny. You're funny. Okay, Wait, I have a question, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: as women of your age, my age, do you still
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  Speaker 1: get hung up on body image? Like you know, when
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  Speaker 1: it's time to get naked, do you get insecure or
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  Speaker 1: nervous about the way you look?
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  Speaker 2: We have different answers. So a little known fact but
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  Speaker 2: becoming more and more well known. Back in another life.
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  Speaker 2: Body my body image problems because I used to weigh
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  Speaker 2: two hundred pounds. So for me, I still look in
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  Speaker 2: the mirror and see, you know, a fat person and
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  Speaker 2: so and my skin is you know, because I was heavy.
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  Speaker 2: My skin is not as tight even though I work out.
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  Speaker 3: Shin isn't it as tight as our age?
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  Speaker 2: I know, but it's exacerbated by the fact that I
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  Speaker 2: wait so much. So for me it's in the beginning
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  Speaker 2: it's a little struggle and then I get over it.
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  Speaker 2: But for me, it's a little struggle in the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to guess that you don't have body image issues.
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  Speaker 1: When it's time to get naked.
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  Speaker 3: I feel a little self conscious for about thirty seconds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you like to dim the lights?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 4: No, I used to.
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  Speaker 3: I used to be a dark girl, yes, because I
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  Speaker 3: didn't want him to see anything.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's like, wait, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't sleep with somebody that I wasn't comfortable with
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  Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? I would know this
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  Speaker 3: person prior to getting into bed with him. So I
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: was quite surprised the last time that, you know, I know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: It's not what it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Used to be.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Things aren't as firm.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: And he was like, oh my god, the way you
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: dress you look so much bigger.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: You have an amazing body.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's good to hear. That makes you
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I think men struggle that a little bit too. So
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: it's kind of a two way street there, right.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: You're in your head about it and they're in their
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: head about it for themselves.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: So and I think, like most things, if you just
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: communicate that fact that, hey, you know, I'm a little
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: self conscious at my age, I can say that. But
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: when I was younger, please don't look, yeah tell me
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: or yeah I would. She pulled up really quickly. Now
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: now it's like good, like Susan. It's a little uncomfortable
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: to beginning asking what the hell.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I've grown into my own skin? Though I don't care anymore.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: And I know men appreciate a woman's body, and it's
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: at sixty seven, it's not perfect, right, you know what
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: I mean? But they still appreciate, but the point is
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: they're not perfect.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: No right, yeah, no, well the problem is they're looking
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: for younger perfect girls.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: So that you and Kathy both say that a lot.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I want to know, Jenny, how you got a guy
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: nine years younger? Yeah? What if we do? That's what
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I because Jenny's younger than us. That that's what I want.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I want, But you know you're want younger.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, like, do what how
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: do you feel about dating younger men? Is there a range,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: like an age range you stick to you?
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I would date someone ten years younger.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I just yeah, probably depending on the mano ten. But
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: my thing is like when we come from similar errors,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: we like the same music and we like that.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: It's things in life.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Also also, you know, you I want a guy who's
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: retired because I want to travel, I want to do
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: things I don't want to you know, have the cocktail
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: waiting and you know his slid five. Yeah, I mean cook,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: she don't call. But I'm great in bed, so it
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: is it's out. That's right.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: There's definitely a difference because if you're dating a younger guy,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: they're innately in a different place in their life developmentally,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: so you have to know what you're getting into.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessarily true. I realized that I'm
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: that I'm I'm different in that I'm really fit. When
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: we're on the golden Bachslore, you know, I in the
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: pick aball contest, in swimming races, I would I am
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: very fit. I work out in the gym. I hype
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: for you. I'm just saying I'm kind of an outlier
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: in that way. You don't want to and I don't
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: want to used to die. That's my thing. I've said,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: it's just the show. I don't want to. Guy who says,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: you know, I used to play tennis, I used to kayak,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I used to swim, and now I sit on the sofa.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I don't want to used to die?
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's hard. It's hard to find those guys
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: that'll that will not look at my age number, will
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: just say, you know what, she looks like, she might
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: be interesting. I'm going to give her a shot. That's
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: what I'm looking for that guy. My son, Susan actually
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: performed the marriage. My son was divorced and met and
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Susan married them in She's ten years older than my
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: son and they are great together, great march.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: That's so good to hear. Yeah, I mean personally speaking,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: it's had its challenges and luckily Mike nine year younger
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: husband acts like he's eighty so and I have a
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: thing for older men, like I love older men, but
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I'm with a younger man. But it works out because
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: he acts like an old man.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Media.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: That was a setup, like a blind date, as blind
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: as you can get in this day and age. I
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: looked him up, but I think I found the wrong
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: guy because the guy I looked up was a Chipendale's dancer.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Long story anyways, it was a setup. I'll send you
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the Chip and Dale's guy.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Talk about bodies, right, Yeah, that's what.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know what I do with that, Like, can
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: I touch it?
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I know, right, But I do think that, you know,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: just getting back to our original conversation, I unless unless
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: you want to set us something, then we can just
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: go from there. But I really do think that I'm
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: surprised at the number of women who literally will say
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: to me, i've had my children, I don't care about sex,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: and I always feel like a freak because I really
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: enjoy seving and a lot of women just don't. So
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I you know, I don't care.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: That's the thing to each their own. Whatever works for you.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: But it's good if you're with somebody that you're on
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the same page.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: That's really So it's not just the idea of sex,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: like men can go out and have one night stand.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: It's just the sex thing is good.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I like the romance, the intimacy, the intimacy, and.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: That's what I was saying earlier. Like for me, if
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do bet with the man, there's I
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: feel something. It's not It's like I said, it's not
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: an activity. It's not like the French and the Italians.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: It's just such ya su.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I like I call it pillow talk.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: I like, yes, I want to get romantic.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. Okay, So do you guys sext
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Is sexting a thing?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Have I ever?
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I don't sex, Kathy, No, like, thank god.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Our guys in their fifties and sixties sexting still yeah.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: And now you know with with video, I mean there's
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff that goes on. I will personally
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: say I do not send pictures because I know those
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: could end up anywhere.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Oh Jeff, you might see my boobs out there somewhere.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna look for. I'm gonna google it, seas.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Boobs are everywhere, Let's be honest.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: That's funny.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm not that comfortable with sexting or
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: anything in writing like that. I can come back to you.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: But talking dirty? Do you like to talk dirty?
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: So when I was younger, I was very intimidated by that.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Very well, when I'm When we were younger, we didn't talk.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: There wasn't texting, I mean talking you it was like
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: you picked up phone. You know, they had a road redial,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: you remember.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: And then when things get in my head, then I
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: start overthinking things and then i'm doing.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think sexin is as big though, at least
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: for me, it's not as big a thing. I want
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: it in person, you know, I want to touch.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: The connection, the connection.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like the phone is a cop out.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Well, if I want to get somebody's attention that I
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: haven't seen, Like I'm in a relationship and I haven't
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: seen el, send a little sexy shot or something nothing
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: that I mortified about to get them go.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: And then they're like Jesus, It's like they're like.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Susan's got a guy, but we can't talk about it yet,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: but a guy that she's sort of maybe and chatting with.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: And I saw her video with him this morning.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, is this the guy for Marshalls.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: No, he's gone.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, well he's still my friend.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, good, that's all.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: He wants his friendship. And I'll see him again. I'm
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: sure I will, but nothing.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I've been hanging out Marcus hoping the same thing
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: happens to me.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: You're stepping it up. You're going to Neiman Marcus.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: That's right now.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: This is a face that's been on television and the
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: world seemed to think that we were a lot alike
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: that we should meet.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: And I've been wanting because you know, Susan I are
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: was out here and out of here in LA and
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: so they've talked a few times and videoed a couple
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: of times. In fact, he facetimed her this morning, and
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: because that's who I am, I picked up the phone
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: and answered her phone and said, oh hello, I didn't
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: know you were so interested. And his face was like,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: oh you like, where are my child? That's great, but
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I but you were very flirty with him. I can
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: see where this of a chemistry.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: This is exciting.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you think I was flirty? Are you kidding me?
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: What did I do?
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I didn't do it in front of him, but she's
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: talking about it, and I knew I was going to
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: see you and I have.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: She was talking about her nip arriving and where nipples. Oh,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I love him and I'm sitting like you marry comfort.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: That is very flirty.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: You're right, but can you believe she just said to me,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Jenny and my flirting talking about your nipples?
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: It was something I had to do.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, I got to get off the screen. I
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: got to put my nipples.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not that sexy.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Sorry, been like this.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about something that's a little you know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: just a little bit more deep.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: You mean Susan's nipples aren't deep enough for I'm.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Enjoying that conversation greatly, but I want to talk about like,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: when you're looking for love again, our minds kind of
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: automatically go to, oh, they had a divorce, But for
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: so many out there, looking for love again is because
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: of a loss. Does having a sexual relationship become more
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: complicated if your partner has lost a spouse or if
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: you have lost a.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Spouse, depending on the time. She could answer that better
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: than me, because I didn't. But I wouldn't want.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Somebody friendly out of losing his spouse, his wife. I'm
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: not going to replace anybody. I couldn't be who he
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: was with. So I would just hope that there was
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: some time in between and he was open and ready.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Like when you watch Joan the other night, when last
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: week when she said I don't know if I'm ready,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: and when she accepted the fact that she's not going
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: to replace her husband. She'll always have the memory of him.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: But that's more. I mean, that's to be opened the law.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: That's true. I think for me, my husband died. It's
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: five and a half years ago, and I think I
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: thought I was ready earlier for sex and an intimate
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: relationship before I really was ready. I mean, I can
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: honestly say now I will never my husband will. I
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: always will carry him in my heart, and just like
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: having children, my heart is expanded to be open to
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: a new relationship and such. I've never compared. I just
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: never compared emotionally, intellectually anything. I've never compared everybody because
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: everyone's different. I think I think it would have been
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: a lot harder if I'd been in serious relationships too soon.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: You have to have that time to have at that time.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: You know, to get through grief, you have to walk
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: through it and to get to a place where you're
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: ready for an intimate relationship. It takes a lot of
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: work and time. I was never divorced, Susan's divorced. I
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: think it looks a little different to someone who has
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: lost a partner that was happily. I mean, all meagers
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: have issues where you you know your husband's alive and
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: she was ready to move on. Mine was abruptly taken
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: from me. So I think it depends on the situation.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm very sorry for your loss.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: That's so hard that I know so many women out
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: there listening are faced with that, and it's it's so
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: complicated and layered the emotions around it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: It is, But I just I wish women would understand
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: that you have to give yourself grace and time. And
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: you know, my husband died by suicide, so I had
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of guilt and fear all kinds of things,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: and life is not over. That's the message. I always
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: your your intimate relationships, you can have another one. It's
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: not it's not defaming your relationship you had. It's not
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: saying I forget that. It's just it's it's the one
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: life we have.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: And other people some women feel like they're not even worthy.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: And yeah, they don't feel worthy, and they feel like
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: their life is over. And that's the message that life
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: is not over your sex life. You know you are
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: in control. You can get up off the sofa and
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: yourself a new life.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: And I have a suggestion for this, Lady's he womanizer.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Oh and you do it.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: It's really feels.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: So much better.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I feel one hundred thousand percent better if I
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: have an orgasm. It's a healthy thing for me for
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: my attitude changes. I can roll with this.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: It's a chemical difference.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so chemical.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, it is. The women that are stuck home and
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: feeling so low. Try it.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: See what happens.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: You'll make yourself happy, might be more open to finding
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: somebody you.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Know, right, Yeah, might ignite something.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I also think women feel guilty. We've talked about this.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I think women at any age sometimes feel guilty for
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: wanting to feel sexually satisfied, Like you it's that Victorian
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: thing where you're not supposed to not you know, but
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I do think some women. Don't you think some women
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: feel that way? Oh I hope that's not healthy. I
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: did say it was healthy.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I just say feel like they feel like they don't deserve,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: not me.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I think there are women, I think, at every age
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: who believe sex is something to produce children. You don't
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: have sex for enjoyment. You have sex because you're going
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: to appropriate. I think there's still women.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: All the Catholics might still feel like that.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like that women have always just worried about pleasing, pleasing, pleasing, especially.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: In bed, until you're fifty.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Until you're fifty, and then you're like.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what. I might have said a little
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: before fifty, but what does your husband please you? First?
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Yes, there's importance right there. Men that want to go
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: in and go what whoa wha wha what who?
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: What?
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: What?
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Do we know? My man? Thank you man?
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Though, we're gonna do this, We're gonna have fun, We're
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: gonna explore each other.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I'm like, do you have a bus to catch or not?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Sometimes? Not ever? Don't you ever just want a quick
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: little thing and be done with it right.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's that when I was married.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: But I don't have a boyfriend now, so I don't
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: get to do any of the buves.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: You want to enjoy the game.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: When we do it, it's going to take out, going
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: to milk it having what is that I want?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Roses and champagne. Room.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, let's do it for hours and trades, just pouring
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: raining outside.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: That's the best when it's raining out.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: For a fire race, turned up music, champagne.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Not so much the lifeguard stand or anything. You know what,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: remember those things the back of the car back.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: In the day.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Wait, you did it in a lifeguard stand.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I tried. I couldn't do it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: What do you mean you couldn't do it?
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: I mean I stood there while they did it, but
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to do anything.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, was it in the daytime or a nighttime?
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Nighttime?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: It's just making sure.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Because I'm so outspoken and comfortable with the conversation of it,
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: people assume a lot of things about me that are
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: mostly not true.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: But that's okay if you want to think it.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I come across like I was easy and have multiple
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: millions of partners, and I have not, But I'm not
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: here to explain that to anybody. I don't care what
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: they don't like. People think I have tattoos all the time.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: You must think tattoos everybody.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Why would they they assume.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: People assume because I'm loud and i'm both bull and I'm.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Super quiet, and I have tattoos. So there you go.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: You don't have any in your loud.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: I've never heard tattoos going with being lacked. I've never
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: heard that.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: They just it's just a personality thing because I don't
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: have to say the word of naxis.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: But I'm fine.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: That's what it is.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: You're outspoken. Yeah, you're fun.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: That's what it covered.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: I wrote motorcycle right away. They thought, oh, you're tad.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: I'm pierced, but I'm.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: W wait wait, wait, wait we you're pierced yeah in
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: your ears?
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Yes you're not.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: You're not piercing any place, not anymore because.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: You had to take it out.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: I made the doctor do it.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Wait where was the piercing?
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Please?
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Can I okay?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: In your vaginal area? Right, okay, I've never explored that.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, I did that for my fiftieth birthday.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Why did you do that?
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Because it was something that I thought was cool and
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to tattoo you know what, I want
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: to do something.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: She did it. She could be the guy. It was
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: called a great conversation starter.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well did it hurt? And how was it? No?
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: And then it was professionally done?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: And how did it did it get in the way
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: of things?
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: We never never? Actually I thought it would do more
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: than it did.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: You thought would help you. I thought it.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Would stimulate either him or I or something that it
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: was a novel.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: It was, it was. It was an earring that he
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: lost its partner lost its way.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: I feel like though, at seventy I'm going to do
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: it again. Okay, yeah, sixty nine.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, sixty nine, I like that better.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably gonna have to go with her, Kathy
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: and make sure it's done right.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I would love for a partner to go with me,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: like in a relationship and he think it was cool
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: and hold my hand and go in and do it
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: together like that would kill me.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: You are wild. I've had in the nineties. I had
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: my belly button pierced. That's it. That's about it. I
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: thought it was so cool. Can we just talk about
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelor at what do you.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: They're all so warm and and they shared their emotions
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: How many times do you cry during one of them?
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I can't stop crying.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Well, I got choked up when their kids came on.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: That was Yeah. I think I think when I thought
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: about our season, I think that these men are showing,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: like we showed on our show, that they're mature, they
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: have feelings, they know how to have fun, their lives
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: aren't over, They're ready to be vulnerable. They're they're grateful
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: for their life experiences and I love that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: One of the hardest parts for me and I want
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: to date with one of them.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I was watching them at the Rose ceremony and that
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: hope in their eyes.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I remember what that felt like. Yes, like oh God,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: my name.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: But don't you love that the hope you can feel.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe we've talked about this. Maybe its because we were
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: on the show. We know what they feel, what they're feeling,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: and they're all they're hoping for a second chance at love.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: They you know, and then they get disappointed and it's crushing.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: It's so you know whatck Coathy and Susan right, Okay,
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: just may not be speaking to someone on that show.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: He may or may not be speaking to someone, said
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Kathy Noddy, who was on that show.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Who is it? Is it Charles?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: No?
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, God bless Charles.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: The world loves him.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I know, how do you think Joan is handling all
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: these men? And who do you think she has the
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: most chemistry with?
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Well, from the day one, we had a couple of
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: people and we had we had a different form.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: But guy, we thought she got and Jordan.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, In this week's episode, Chalk did some shocking things.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: He went home because his mother passed away. So then
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: he came back.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: That's just it, that's it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: He came back.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: You know why because he's falling in love and I
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: think she has a sparkle in our eyes for him
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: with that version.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: We know her, we know Joan, So when she was
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: on the day, you could see a sparkling, right. I mean,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: like I said it from the beginning, my money's on Chalk.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: That's why I thought it, from the first time I
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: saw them together.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Well, thank god he came back then.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: And it's funny because that's what Joe.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Trust me, we've tried to find out Joan won't tell.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Us on our show.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: It was that first important date that he ended up with,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: whether very great decision or not. But that's Teresa was
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: the first date that they bonded over similar things. And
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I just saw the same thing with Chuck and Joan body.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: So it's also the look. I mean, I know, I'm
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: not sure people you know out in Vachelor Nation, but
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: we know her, we're friends with her. And then there's
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: a look in her eye, the smile. We were watching
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: together and we both put each other and that's looking
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: pretty promising. And we know who's left over, yeah, we know.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: And then there's I think Guy. I think she's interested
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: in Guy. He's the er doctor. I mean, she's she's
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: getting down to it now because she's sending lots of people.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Home and tough. Yeah, it's so hard. I have to
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: ask you this though in your your season, would you
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: have slept with Gary?
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: That's where she says.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: No, emphatic no, across the board. That's what I thought.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Great now, But you know what I'm I Both Susan
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: and I are the same on this. We were in
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: the friend zone real quickly with Gary, and he's a
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: nice guy. But but I would not I would not
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: want to send the message to the world that you know,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I've done this guy for three weeks and and talk
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: to him, you know, accumulation of what an hour and
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: a half if I had a one on one And
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: now I'm gonna bed down.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Let's see just what I have with the show is
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: they don't get enough time to get to know each other.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I wish I think Jones getting more time.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Well, yes he has a two hour show, but I
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: really wish that they would maybe lessen the amount of
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: people and let an actual, you know, relationship start with
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: several people to make that decision and Quarry.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: We've talked to Gary and he said to me, I
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: wish I'd gotten to know you better, Kathy. I just
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: didn't know who you were. And that's true. We caught
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: up in the moment we got moment we hardly talked.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, although I'm grateful there is a show, but
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: now rumor has some I don't know, paradise thing for a.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Seniors Susan's going to be exhibiting all her tattoos.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Right, I'm so ready for that.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be wearing.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: However, they can't do it the same number one.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not going with bugs and I'm not worry.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: But paradise to us is different, way different.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's like my idea camping is no phone in
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: the room.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: But you know what I got to say, I could
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: fall in love. We're both sitting on that way fall
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: You fall fast and fall hard. If I found something
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I was interested in, yeah, I could see me falling.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: In love well, but I was head over heels over Gary.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I would have been a whole different character. I was
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: totally man, you can't hide from you.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: One of us wanted to go pick corn and you know,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: run through corn mazes in Indiana, Like it wasn't an
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: exciting but he's a nice time.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Do you think that in the Fantasy Sweet episode, yes,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I just what happens in there when the cameras are.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Off, something that needs to happen happens. You are not
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: being filmed, you are not being recorded. You speak from
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: the soul. The majority of the world thinks you're getting late,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: and maybe.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Some people do. Oh, I think I think not.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: It's a bad I don't know because we were not
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: in the Fantasy suite right with each other or conversations,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: but I think they have the conversations about you know,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Fancis and life and children. Does it work? Yeah, but
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I think they all take the blue pill or is
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: this a nutural thing? You know what? That would not
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: be the conversation I'd be having the fantasy suite. But
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I think that those are important conversations to have because
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: it's such a truncated section of your life. It's fast
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: experience and.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: But you need those.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know Joe made a statement prior to the
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: show that she was not going to sleep over. Well,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: you know what, people get late in two hours and
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: you could still leave the room at two am.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: So don't think that's what's going to convince the world.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: I'm serious.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Well, she's she's going into it trying to be respectable,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: but she wants to put out the right message. You
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: guys are so amazing. I love that you're just like
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: open books and talking to women of a certain age
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: about all this because nobody's talking about it, and we
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: should all be just talking about openly and sharing our experiences.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Even women at a younger age can get things from us.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we started this whole thing. I said, it's a
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: normal body function. It's like sex should be part of
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: everyone's life. It's part of life and a good sex life.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: But I have daughters, you don't want to experience it
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: until way later, well until.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: They're mostly ready. But you know, I think we're old enough.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: We are not dead yet.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: You you are in your prime, this lumor, you're both
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: so amazing, and it's okay to want different things in
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: your relationships as you grow and change, you know, and
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: just identifying them those things and knowing what's important to
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: you and finding a person that matches up.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: And possibly a lot of your listeners and a lot
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: of people judge both of us, but I know I've
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: been judged for well, I'm not like you, Susan.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: I'm not outgoing, and I'm not this, and I'm not that.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: But you have feelings inside, you have thoughts, and when
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: you become of a certain age, you're less intimidated maybe
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: by what others are thinking.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: You're comfortable in your own skin. But I think also
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: she's absolutly right. I couldn't agree with you more.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: That's nice scary when we're your brain.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I think I would want your
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: listeners to know that life doesn't begin to end with sex.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: And so people who are sitting at home saying I'm
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: afraid to date. I don't know what to do. I
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: think my body's good enough. All those things that we
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: do to ourselves, I think it's a progression, and so
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: try the woman Why I know it's to get out
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: there and live your life and build relationships, then use
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the womanizer, then go back out. In other words, sex good,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: healthy sex, like intimacy, doesn't just happen right. You have
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: to get out and do things. And I think sometimes
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: women are intimidated by putting themselves out there. So don't be.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Intimidated out And the only other thing I could hopefully
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: suggest is be comfortable in your own skins. Be okay
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: with your body, no matter what it looks like, because
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: none of us look great except who you are.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Except who you are.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's my whole thing. I just want everybody who's
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: listening to remember. If you take nothing away from this conversation,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: take away the fact that the second time around at
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: love starts with loving yourself.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: If you don't love yourself, you can't possibly love someone else.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: You have to love your self to be open to
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: letting someone love you and loving them back.
• 46:05
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• 46:08
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• 46:10
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