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A Farewell to 2025 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and SMITHA.
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Speaker 2: I'm welcome to Steff I've never told you production of
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Speaker 2: iHeart Radio, and welcome to twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's me.
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Speaker 2: It's hard to know when this is going to come out,
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Speaker 2: but as of recording, this is supposed to come out
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Speaker 2: in the new year.
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Speaker 1: So happy new Year, hopeing well for you, Good luck
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Speaker 1: to you, Yes, good luck to you.
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Speaker 2: And as always, as is tradition, we're a little late
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Speaker 2: on things, so we're doing our twenty twenty five recap
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Speaker 2: at the beginning of twenty twenty six. So this is
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Speaker 2: just a tradition that we have where we look back
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Speaker 2: over the year and we pick out some of the
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Speaker 2: favorite things that we've done, some of our favorite episodes,
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Speaker 2: some of our favorite segments, anything that's.
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Speaker 1: Stuck out, and we make a lot of content.
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Speaker 2: Listeners, as I'm sure you know, so it's actually kind
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Speaker 2: of difficult to narrow it down, but we've done our
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Speaker 2: best and we have our picks here. But as always, listeners,
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Speaker 2: we would love to hear from you if there is
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Speaker 2: anything that really stood out to you that you want
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Speaker 2: to hear more of or less of, or what you
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Speaker 2: want to see us try or do please let us know.
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Speaker 2: So sometimes I worry Samantha that we get kind of
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Speaker 2: we use a lot of technical jargon that people don't
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Speaker 2: know what we're talking about necessarily, But the way that
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Speaker 2: we do things here is that it's not even technical
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Speaker 2: and you probably do know. But to make sure we're
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Speaker 2: all on the same page, we usually have two full
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Speaker 2: episodes we call full episodes episodes typically new episodes, and
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Speaker 2: those are ones that are longer and more researched. Sometimes
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Speaker 2: Samantha and I split them. Sometimes one does one and
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Speaker 2: we just do our own thing, and I think it's
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Speaker 2: pretty obvious who does which one. Usually we say then
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Speaker 2: we have our feminist around the World segment slash fictional
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Speaker 2: women around the segment, and then we have our happy Hour,
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Speaker 2: which we didn't choose the favorite of because I think
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Speaker 2: those are more all over the place.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of hard to clarify.
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Speaker 2: But then we also have like once a month segments
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Speaker 2: like when Bridget comes on or Eves comes on. We're
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Speaker 2: female first, our book club or feminist maybe Friday or
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Speaker 2: even in fiction. So we're breaking them down into categories. Yes,
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Speaker 2: so let us start with the favorite full episode, So
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Speaker 2: mine for twenty twenty five was our two parter on
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Speaker 2: adult friendships. And this is because as listeners know, as
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Speaker 2: Samantha knows, I actually did change some behavior after that episode.
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Speaker 2: I texted friends I had in a while. I met
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Speaker 2: up with friends I had in a while, even if
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Speaker 2: they had kids. I was just I was in my
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Speaker 2: head that all they're too busy, they don't want to
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Speaker 2: hang out. And they did and we had a wonderful time.
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Speaker 2: And people asked me about that one a lot, because
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Speaker 2: I think adults do have those questions of how to
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Speaker 2: navigate these friendships. So it was just one that really
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Speaker 2: impacted me and changed how I behaved. And I still
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Speaker 2: I recently texted someone I hat in a while. He
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Speaker 2: did not text back, and that's fine, but I reached
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Speaker 2: out because I was like, you know what, maybe maybe
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Speaker 2: he does want to talk. Maybe he will later. I'm
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Speaker 2: not sure. So that one I'm alm. I gotta throw
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Speaker 2: a bonus in here. The last of us two episodes
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Speaker 2: we did, Yeah, it feels like forever ago.
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Speaker 3: I well, you know, I'm all the way back in
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Speaker 3: the ninety so who knows where we're at.
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Speaker 2: It was the beginning, it was like April of this year,
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Speaker 2: but you know, I love doing those, and I I
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Speaker 2: won't spoil anything, but I have to say I was
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Speaker 2: glad to have that truth come out because I do
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Speaker 2: talk about it a lot, so if you listen to
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Speaker 2: the show, it was nice to finally be able to
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Speaker 2: be able to be like, yeah, this is what this
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Speaker 2: is what's going on. And then also just a shout
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Speaker 2: out to Christina who always makes the fiction episodes sound great.
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Speaker 2: But we did get to the end of our Sminty
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Speaker 2: fiction trilogy on Terminus, but it was three parts and
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Speaker 2: we got to the end of it and it felt
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Speaker 2: like a kind of closure. It felt like it and
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Speaker 2: We're going to move on to something new, so I'm
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Speaker 2: very excited.
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Speaker 3: Ooh it my pig was about Virginity and gen Z.
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Speaker 3: Actually we had a lot of conversations because like, it's
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Speaker 3: interesting growing old, getting older is interesting to see the cycles,
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Speaker 3: like you when as you're in the process of being
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Speaker 3: twenties and then like thirties and now like coming into forties,
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Speaker 3: you're like, oh, and seeing those young ones being adults
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Speaker 3: and seeing the cycles or newness in the reasoning is
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Speaker 3: always interesting anyway. But talking about how gen Z perceived
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Speaker 3: virginity and its retake, but for better reasons. I will
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Speaker 3: say that in understanding what they were talking about, I'm like, ah,
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Speaker 3: this makes a lot more sense in where we are.
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Speaker 3: And so having those like research moments of seeing what
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Speaker 3: younger generations are talking about when it comes to sex
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Speaker 3: and relationships, it's fascinating to see it brings both hope
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Speaker 3: and worry. Yes, Like, I don't know how else to
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Speaker 3: talk about that. I think we talked a lot about
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Speaker 3: real relationships and the younger generations this year, and it's
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Speaker 3: been fascinating in this conversation again, even because when we
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Speaker 3: talked about online dating during COVID versus today, which we
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Speaker 3: had to come back round to do, it was that change.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fascinating.
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Speaker 2: It is, and it's even though time feels both forever
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Speaker 2: ago and it's so yesterday yesterday, It wasn't that long
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Speaker 2: of a time, but things have changed so much during
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Speaker 2: that span of time. Yeah, so it is really interesting
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Speaker 2: to look into it, right.
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Speaker 4: I mean, let's just be honest.
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Speaker 3: COVID changed, the pandemic changed so much in a way
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Speaker 3: that we it was unexpected.
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Speaker 4: So it is interesting also.
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Speaker 3: Like the the obvious gender divide when it comes to
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Speaker 3: how everyone reacted.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's fascinating.
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Speaker 3: Also said said, jumping into so what did you pick
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Speaker 3: for your Monday Mini Favorites?
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Speaker 2: Okay, did I mention that we do Monday minis too?
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but we say we do. It's on Monday's.
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Speaker 1: Everyone a little bit researched.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were supposed to be really short, but we
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Speaker 2: lose track of it all the time and they end
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Speaker 2: up being like thirty minutes long.
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Speaker 3: Usually it's like one thing that we see as a
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Speaker 3: headline and then it turns out to be a huge thing.
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Speaker 1: You're like, what, yes, but one of my favorites.
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Speaker 2: And this is kind of piggybacking off a recent topic
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Speaker 2: you did, Samantha Is. We did an episode on gaming
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Speaker 2: for the Holidays, but in it we were talking about
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Speaker 2: games that specifically have some kind of holiday theme in it.
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Speaker 2: And it was just really comical to me because, as
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Speaker 2: usual when we do these gaming episodes, it was so
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Speaker 2: clear about the type of games you play versus the
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Speaker 2: type of.
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Speaker 1: Games I play.
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Speaker 2: And it's not to say I do enjoy the type
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Speaker 2: of games you play, but I come out with like, well,
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Speaker 2: Parasite Eve, this horror game takes place on Christmas Eve.
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Speaker 2: But it was fun to research that define those examples.
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Speaker 2: And I do love Parasite Eve and it has a
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Speaker 2: banger opening soundtrack if you want to listen to it,
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Speaker 2: it's really good.
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Speaker 3: Yes, well, just I guess I really was on a
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Speaker 3: theme this year apparently when it comes to like relationships
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Speaker 3: in general. But the male Loneliness Epidemic episode was interesting
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Speaker 3: because we are hearing that phrase turn and being spit
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Speaker 3: out constantly and realizing what this is. But it's actually
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Speaker 3: something we need to be watching, and not because women
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Speaker 3: are causing it, and not because of these things, but
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Speaker 3: because when we were talking about it with the AI
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Speaker 3: episode with Ridget which just we just I believe just
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Speaker 3: released not long ago, but like it is concerning and
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Speaker 3: why it's happening, and it kind of opens your eyes
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Speaker 3: to seeing why they're lonely and what needs.
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Speaker 4: To be changed.
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Speaker 3: But I will say the aftermath of the videos that
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Speaker 3: I've seen men coming together to really hold each other accountable,
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Speaker 3: to have conversations.
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Speaker 4: Since then, it's been nice to see.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is nice to see, but it's become
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Speaker 2: I hear it as sort of a buzz phrase, like
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Speaker 2: I hear people use it in mainstream a lot more
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Speaker 2: now since we've talked about it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's only because and again it came through like
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Speaker 3: when I was listening to hearing it, I didn't understand it.
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Speaker 3: It was kind of like and they say this is
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Speaker 3: a male win this epandemic, or is men are not
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Speaker 3: lonely enough, Like that's that rhetoric now, And I find
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Speaker 3: it interesting because in that conversation is this is nothing
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Speaker 3: women can do. If it's completely like gendered headedo normative conversation,
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Speaker 3: women can't solve this. This is not something we can
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Speaker 3: do because it is all male created and it has
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Speaker 3: to be male fixed in understanding and having like self awareness.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and are they willing to That's that's the questions said.
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Speaker 4: The question who's going to do?
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Speaker 3: And this is we're going to online timelines because usually
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Speaker 3: Tuesdays are our releases for activists or feminists around the world.
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Speaker 3: I've actually changed it to activists around the world because
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Speaker 3: you know, we bring in non binary people as well
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Speaker 3: and so many different things, and they are feminists, but
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Speaker 3: oftentimes they're activists. As we've turned out, like there's so
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Speaker 3: many people who do multiple things in activism, So there's
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Speaker 3: including like feminist activism as well as art and all
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Speaker 3: these things intersectional in general. And I've really picked out
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Speaker 3: the organizations for disability rights. We are on a role
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Speaker 3: during that month on Disability Awareness Month, and because there
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Speaker 3: are so many good organizations doing so much work that
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Speaker 3: have always done this work. And I really enjoyed finding
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Speaker 3: out some of these organizations as well as I don't
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Speaker 3: talk about the film but like Patrice m I look,
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Speaker 3: but like those organizations that work with her and all
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Speaker 3: these things and what needs to be done. I don't
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Speaker 3: think we talk about enough, but it was actually kind.
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Speaker 4: Of fun enlightening.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the work those organizations do are so important.
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Speaker 2: I mean I just saw headline today about one of those,
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Speaker 2: not necessarily one of the ones you talked about it,
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Speaker 2: but an organizations doing the Trump administration getting rid of
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Speaker 2: as L interpreters, which is important for accessibility. So it
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Speaker 2: is really really important work that they're doing.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, I do the Fictional Women Around the World, which
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Speaker 2: also comes out on Tuesday. The Subsub the sub sub
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Speaker 2: sub sub sub segment. Uh So I chose Morgan Elsbeth.
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Speaker 2: And one of the reasons I chose her is you
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Speaker 2: were not there. I don't know you were not there
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Speaker 2: for this episode, Samantha, you were sick, and I think
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Speaker 2: you would have liked this episode, so I'm bringing it back. Okay,
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Speaker 2: you keep paying things with that all like what I
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Speaker 2: remember this?
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Speaker 1: Okay. So Morgan elswth is you? You know her?
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Speaker 2: You just might not know her name, but she is
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Speaker 2: from season two of The Mandalorian when the episode when
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Speaker 2: Ahsoka shows up. She's the person that Ahsoka fights to
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Speaker 2: save the town Corvus. Okay, yes, But one of the
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Speaker 2: things I thought you would have thought was interesting was
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Speaker 2: that her father was a martial artist.
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Speaker 1: Bruce Lee was her godfather.
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Speaker 2: Oh would have yeah, And she grew up surrounded by
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Speaker 2: like all of these leading martial artists, like most of
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Speaker 2: the stunt people who worked on The Mandalorian were trained
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Speaker 2: by her dad. And when she got the call that
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Speaker 2: they wanted her for this part, she thought it was
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Speaker 2: a joke because she thought she was too old, essentially
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Speaker 2: like I've aged out.
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Speaker 1: But no, they were like, no, we want you. And
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Speaker 1: it's really.
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Speaker 2: Sweet because her and her dad, after they saw a
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Speaker 2: New Hope the Star Wars movie in theaters, they both
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Speaker 2: bought like plastic lightsabers and would practice doing oh wow,
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Speaker 2: lightsaber fights, so she got to have that moment.
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Speaker 4: That's awesome. She's been preparing her whole life for that.
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Speaker 1: I love it so much.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know when I was doing this research, I
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Speaker 2: was like, Samantha would like this one.
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Speaker 1: So that is why I brought that back so you would.
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Speaker 4: Know what I was missing.
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Speaker 2: It was a good one. She's a cool character. She's
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Speaker 2: like a she's a very she's dark slash gray character,
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Speaker 2: but she's got a lot of history you can look into.
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Speaker 2: She's an interesting She's an interesting character. I also want
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Speaker 2: to shout out Joey. Yeah, our contrut Joey and their
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Speaker 2: episode on Lois Lane.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was cool.
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Speaker 3: Well, if I had to pick out Joey episode, which
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Speaker 3: we didn't put in here, I was gonna put them
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Speaker 3: on Donnie because that was a fun conversation, especially seeing
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Speaker 3: what it is happening in New York from their perspective.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, they brought.
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Speaker 3: On so many good, good thoughts, especially with like all
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Speaker 3: of the conferences and such. We do need to get
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Speaker 3: them here for Dragon Con so they can report what
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Speaker 3: they need to report back.
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Speaker 4: To us about what they thought.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and our Twilight viewing, it will happen it will happen.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of movies, that brings us to a feminist movie Friday, Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 2: I had to tie, and they're very funny opposites. So
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Speaker 2: one is The Last Year to Corn, which is a
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Speaker 2: very melancholy cartoon that I saw as a kid and
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Speaker 2: have loved and I was excited to share with people.
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Speaker 2: The other is very recent film Dangerous Animals, which is
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Speaker 2: a horror movie about a serial killer who uses sharks
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Speaker 2: to kill people.
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Speaker 4: I actually really liked that movie too. I would have
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Speaker 4: put that on the list.
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Speaker 3: I said that you had soli from me, but I
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Speaker 3: decided to go jump into a spoiled Saturday K Pop
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Speaker 3: Demon Hunters because obviously it's very impactful and it had
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Speaker 3: a lot of feelings seeing this movie and still with
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Speaker 3: all of the nominations they've grabbed all of the awards,
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Speaker 3: the women who voiced the singing voices for Hunt trucks
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Speaker 3: being on tours and joy, it's really fascinating to see it.
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Speaker 4: As it continues to grow in popularity. People are not
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Speaker 4: hating on it yet.
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Speaker 3: I assumed we would get haters, but I haven't had
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Speaker 3: that hasn't from my perspective. I haven't seen that maybe
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Speaker 3: I'm just too far into my love for k pop
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Speaker 3: Demon Hunter, but it was something to see the rise
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Speaker 3: of the love of Korean culture. They did something so
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Speaker 3: new instead of the remakes after all the years of
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Speaker 3: just all remakes or like, this was brand new, especially
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Speaker 3: for a Western audience.
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Speaker 4: So seeing that really really made me happy.
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Speaker 3: And I'll stay on my top probably ten experiences as
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Speaker 3: an Asian adoptee or Korean adoptee seeing as part of culture.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I could not think of that one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I saw my mom and I watched the Macy's Day
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Speaker 2: Parade because we're that's one of our traditions.
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Speaker 1: And they performed at the Macy's Day Parade and I
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Speaker 1: was like.
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Speaker 4: Oh, my louck, let me tell you why.
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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I am like such a nerd and my
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Speaker 1: mom is so sweet that I always.
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Speaker 2: Love to tell her, like, I know what this is,
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Speaker 2: let me explain it to you. Yes, that brings us
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Speaker 2: to book club. So I chose Undead Girl Gang, which
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Speaker 2: was it was a really fun slash sad at the end,
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Speaker 2: but it's mostly fun story about someone trying to figure
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Speaker 2: out how her best friend died because she doesn't believe
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Speaker 2: the narrative that is being told, and she's a witch,
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Speaker 2: so she uses the spell to bring her her friend back,
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Speaker 2: but in doing so, she also brings back to bullies
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Speaker 2: that she doesn't like, and they're kind of zombie esque
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Speaker 2: and they have to stay close to her or it
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Speaker 2: gets worse. And there's kind of like high school hijinks
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Speaker 2: and stuff like that along with your kind of elements
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Speaker 2: of horror and mystery that you're trying to figure out
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Speaker 2: what's going on.
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Speaker 1: And it was just.
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Speaker 2: A really fun trying to figure out what's actually going
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Speaker 2: on here, and then seeing the stories of everybody and
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Speaker 2: why people did what they did, and then having some closure,
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Speaker 2: even if it was.
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Speaker 3: A little sad, but it was so good. Again, I
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Speaker 3: wanted to be a movie, but yeah, I picked. I
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Speaker 3: kind of forget this was our Asian pic. I'm not
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Speaker 3: gonna lie.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but Hello Universe.
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Speaker 3: I loved because it was also like a depth of
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Speaker 3: like fortune telling and mysticism.
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Speaker 4: A part of this. We love the young boy named.
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Speaker 1: Turtle or Virgil.
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Speaker 4: I don't know everything about it.
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Speaker 3: It was so intrinsic, like if I can imagine it,
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Speaker 3: and I still have pieces of that book in my head,
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Speaker 3: like I can see it because you create your own world,
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Speaker 3: which is the fun part about reading right and having
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Speaker 3: like Valencia, all the characters were fixed. That's the younger
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Speaker 3: Sister being a part of this conversation.
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Speaker 4: It was so good.
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Speaker 3: I will also say to shout out that horror book
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Speaker 3: that we read, because I also had those pictures of
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Speaker 3: them doing Ghost Summer, which was so beautiful. Like again,
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Speaker 3: I have pictures from that book and sometimes they go
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Speaker 3: inside because there's so much in the woods, so many
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Speaker 3: activities in the woods. But Ghost Summer was heart renting
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Speaker 3: to me, but beautiful as where like Hello Universe a
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Speaker 3: little different, a little more uplifting, a lot of better
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Speaker 3: happy endings with like the friendships growing, and Ghost Summer
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Speaker 3: is just like a lot more like. It also brought
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Speaker 3: a conclusion, like a conclusive ending family coming back together.
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Speaker 3: I think that was implication. If you haven't read that,
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Speaker 3: you should. But both of those books they haunt me
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Speaker 3: in a good way.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and Ghost Summer is haunting. It's literally yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But I also love these dynamics of the younger sibling.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, but I love that
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Speaker 3: when they bring in the young assembling, they come in
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Speaker 3: as a good relationship together and then they grow in
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Speaker 3: this adventure together.
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Speaker 4: I'm a fan.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you bought that one back. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I again, sometimes it's hard to keep check of what
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Speaker 1: we did in a year.
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Speaker 3: But again, if this sticks them up, so Undead Girl Gang,
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Speaker 3: and we've read so many good things Undead Girl, Hello,
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Speaker 3: Universe and got summer really just left vivid pictures that
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Speaker 3: I can't stop thinking about.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good books we get to read for that segment.
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Speaker 2: My mom asked me recently and she said, do you
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Speaker 2: you still love to read? Do you still read? And
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Speaker 2: I was like, well, for work, I read a lot,
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Speaker 2: and I am glad we have this segment.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we do. I mean, we do have to
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Speaker 1: read it for work, but it is like a book,
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Speaker 1: right that I might enjoy.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, what a joy that we can do it for work,
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Speaker 4: even though it is.
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Speaker 1: Right work exactly exactly. And that brings us to our
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Speaker 1: final shout outs.
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Speaker 2: We're so lucky we get to do interview segments with
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Speaker 2: people on this show, and we've had We've been really
21:04
Speaker 2: fortunate this year to have a lot of really good ones.
21:08
Speaker 2: Hopefully that trend will continue into the new year. But
21:12
Speaker 2: one that really stuck out to me was the interview
21:15
Speaker 2: we did with Egene Carroll, who is like one of
21:20
Speaker 2: the only people to successfully see Donald Trump and win.
21:25
Speaker 2: And she was just a really fun great.
21:31
Speaker 4: I wonder her friend.
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Speaker 3: I wanted to go and have coffee with her instead,
21:36
Speaker 3: and because she was was it a Danish of toast?
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Speaker 4: I don't even remember she.
21:42
Speaker 1: Was, Yeah, she was snacking on something. She was like
21:45
Speaker 1: in the woods, the woods behind her with the dog.
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Speaker 2: The dog.
21:51
Speaker 1: But she also you can just tell she's lived a life,
21:54
Speaker 1: like when you're talking to her, she would bring up
21:57
Speaker 1: things and passing that I'm like, wait, please explain.
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Speaker 4: That I really just want to have a conversation with her. Yeah,
22:04
Speaker 4: I will say.
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Speaker 3: I think this is my point of like having bonus
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Speaker 3: on bonus on bonus, because I love the interviews that
22:11
Speaker 3: we do because it brings so many connections. I said
22:13
Speaker 3: it at the very beginning, I'm here to make friends
22:15
Speaker 3: because I don't want to like go out, and this
22:18
Speaker 3: is how I do it. Eating Carol is definitely up there.
22:22
Speaker 3: It is a phenomenal interview. If you haven't had a
22:26
Speaker 3: chance to listen everything that she says, like we just
22:31
Speaker 3: were glued to any of the conversations, and she was
22:33
Speaker 3: so fun talking about her book. Her book, Like, her
22:37
Speaker 3: book is really good and it does show off a
22:40
Speaker 3: bit of her personality, but not to the degree of.
22:45
Speaker 4: What we saw.
22:46
Speaker 3: Her perseverance alone is incredible. I just also loved her
22:51
Speaker 3: throwing out names, big huge names and us sitting there
22:54
Speaker 3: looking at her like, ma'am, why would we know these people?
22:57
Speaker 4: We're still shocked that you're here with us.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and we are probably going to bring her interview
23:03
Speaker 2: back soon even though it's been recent, because there's been
23:06
Speaker 2: some news around her. And also Alita Hava who's the
23:12
Speaker 2: lawyer against her, so uh yeah, that one will probably
23:15
Speaker 2: come back. But yeah, she would just be like, oh,
23:19
Speaker 2: do you know this person? Like no, I mean I
23:21
Speaker 2: know them.
23:22
Speaker 4: We know them, but we don't know them. They come
23:26
Speaker 4: to you for advice. We know we want to do.
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Speaker 1: This, but she did it in a very genuine.
23:31
Speaker 3: Yeah way, as if we should. I love when and
23:35
Speaker 3: she was one And we have so many big names,
23:38
Speaker 3: are bigger names that were so overwhelmed by and intimidated by,
23:43
Speaker 3: but they actually look us up. Those are the people
23:46
Speaker 3: who intimidate me more. They do because they are such
23:49
Speaker 3: professionals that they come in and they're like, you do this,
23:52
Speaker 3: and like, how do you know this? Do you care
23:55
Speaker 3: about us?
23:56
Speaker 4: What? And she happens to be one of those people
23:58
Speaker 4: who does that.
23:59
Speaker 3: I'm sure she doesn't everyone, but again, just being in
24:01
Speaker 3: that spot, it was a beautiful interview. I had to
24:05
Speaker 3: put in Holly and Marie there at the very beginning
24:07
Speaker 3: of the year, the release of their book. They're always
24:09
Speaker 3: so fun. Holly is always so fun. We don't see
24:13
Speaker 3: her enough, but we adore her here from Spinty, but
24:16
Speaker 3: their book was fantastic. Celebrating what they were able to
24:19
Speaker 3: do and accomplish was so much fun having a full
24:21
Speaker 3: conversation because it went for a while. We had some
24:24
Speaker 3: hiccups that interview, I know messed like really freaked you
24:27
Speaker 3: out because we had some hiccups with the Riverside our interview.
24:32
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but.
24:34
Speaker 4: That interview went for a while and just conversation.
24:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a really fun one. A peek behind
24:40
Speaker 2: the curtain listeners. I had my laptop had a really
24:44
Speaker 2: fun problem at the beginning of the year where we
24:50
Speaker 2: would use this app called riverside to do to record
24:56
Speaker 2: audio with people like not just me and Samantha, and
25:02
Speaker 2: it just my laptop hated it and it would sometimes
25:06
Speaker 2: just die. And actually it was a very stressful thing.
25:11
Speaker 2: And actually, if I'm going to throw in a bonus here,
25:13
Speaker 2: Michelle Norris, yeah, Michelle Norris was fantastic.
25:17
Speaker 1: I love her.
25:18
Speaker 2: I was very overwhelmed during that interview, both because I
25:22
Speaker 2: love her, but also because I tried to fix this
25:26
Speaker 2: problem because I didn't want anything to go wrong when
25:29
Speaker 2: she was on and I did not, and so I
25:32
Speaker 2: was very.
25:34
Speaker 1: Stressed during it. But also update.
25:37
Speaker 2: We never said at the end, we were like, we're
25:39
Speaker 2: going to make mac and cheese for the Super Bowl
25:42
Speaker 2: Samantha and I did.
25:43
Speaker 1: We never posted about it anywhere, but we did.
25:46
Speaker 3: There was a little little confusion about what we were supposed
25:49
Speaker 3: to be doing and how we were supposed to be
25:50
Speaker 3: posting things, and then who were participating, because it was
25:53
Speaker 3: real confused. I was real confused, but Michelle Norris was
25:56
Speaker 3: doing it and she hagged us and her I think
26:01
Speaker 3: I did it wrong. I will say that it did
26:06
Speaker 3: come out pretty. Is one of those things that it
26:08
Speaker 3: tells you to wait to eat, and I am a
26:11
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to maca cheese. I wanted it
26:12
Speaker 3: hot and ready, like I wanted that, but you're supposed
26:14
Speaker 3: to let it sit and that was kind of my
26:16
Speaker 3: flaw on that one, but we did it. She was
26:20
Speaker 3: also one of those that is a cosmic professional and
26:24
Speaker 3: also with this up and trying to interview us, we
26:26
Speaker 3: were like, no, ma'am.
26:27
Speaker 2: Stuff well, and I accidentally, because I was so flustered
26:30
Speaker 2: about this laptop problem, I never introduced myself. We have
26:34
Speaker 2: done another show before, but it was like a year ago,
26:36
Speaker 2: and I don't expect her to but I because under
26:39
Speaker 2: my name, I'm the one that kind of runs these things,
26:42
Speaker 2: it says Sminty. So I never introduced myself and it
26:46
Speaker 2: said Sminty under my little video box. But she said
26:50
Speaker 2: when she said my name.
26:52
Speaker 4: She was like you and Annie. She's like Smitha, Annie,
26:54
Speaker 4: you do this. She knew us. She talked about a
26:57
Speaker 4: couple of.
26:57
Speaker 3: Other episodes like yeah, she was ready again when people
27:01
Speaker 3: are that big, I just don't understand why you would
27:05
Speaker 3: remove for us. People who are in our own like
27:09
Speaker 3: who are in our company, don't know we are what
27:11
Speaker 3: we're about.
27:12
Speaker 1: At the time.
27:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're professionals, but it was really I
27:17
Speaker 2: felt so afterwards, I was like, wait, I never introduced myself.
27:22
Speaker 4: Oh, she was on it, but yeah, she was also one.
27:25
Speaker 3: But I will say also just to put in there
27:26
Speaker 3: because I feel like there's so many in Christina does
27:29
Speaker 3: an amazing job in connecting when I say, hey, this
27:32
Speaker 3: person from this TikTok, I want her on here. And
27:34
Speaker 3: we had several people. Evan the bioethicist came on and
27:39
Speaker 3: they were phenomenal.
27:41
Speaker 4: We had what I know.
27:42
Speaker 3: Is black Belt News. She just had a baby, congratulations.
27:45
Speaker 3: Not that she listens, but she was still reporting on
27:48
Speaker 3: everything that is happening in the world. Having her on
27:51
Speaker 3: like having these people come on realizing that we featured
27:54
Speaker 3: them on. Activists around the world. We've had at least
27:56
Speaker 3: two to three people coming on to that. That's some
27:59
Speaker 3: of my favorite thing is Kaitlin Blenny was really fun,
28:02
Speaker 3: I will say, and I want her to back on
28:05
Speaker 3: for her book when she does releases.
28:06
Speaker 4: Yes, there's so many.
28:07
Speaker 3: I think interviews are some of my most favorite, but
28:09
Speaker 3: also some of the most stressful.
28:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, and wanted to make sure we love Yeah.
28:15
Speaker 3: We want to make sure they feel welcomed and that
28:17
Speaker 3: they know that we are fans or we are really
28:20
Speaker 3: proud of what they are doing and want to enhance
28:22
Speaker 3: that and we do. We vet pretty well. I think
28:26
Speaker 3: the people who come on here. Sometimes we have people
28:29
Speaker 3: on that that we might not be too sure about
28:30
Speaker 3: because we got asked for them to come on, and
28:33
Speaker 3: we try to do our due diligence with helping that.
28:36
Speaker 3: But most of the time, but yeah, we do try
28:39
Speaker 3: to bring on people that we are so excited to
28:42
Speaker 3: having these conversations to like getting more educated about the
28:45
Speaker 3: things that we don't know more things that we want
28:48
Speaker 3: to know about.
28:49
Speaker 4: And I it just brings.
28:51
Speaker 3: Me so much shoy after leaving, especially a great conversation
28:55
Speaker 3: like EG and Carol, or like Michelle Norris, or like
28:58
Speaker 3: Kaitlyn Blenny, when you feel like you've actually got to
29:01
Speaker 3: know them, there's this level of like friends. I feel
29:05
Speaker 3: so good, like the world is better.
29:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is really nice. We've had really great
29:15
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it luck, but we've had it.
29:17
Speaker 2: We've we've been fortunate, Yes, the interviews we've been able
29:20
Speaker 2: to have.
29:22
Speaker 4: It's true.
29:23
Speaker 3: I think this year has been in a wonderful year,
29:25
Speaker 3: kind of stressful content. I don't know what's going to
29:29
Speaker 3: come up for the rest of twenty twenty six. As
29:31
Speaker 3: we've just started SLASH, I say this past. Self is
29:34
Speaker 3: saying this, hoping for all good things, more good interviews,
29:39
Speaker 3: more good fucks, more good movies. I've already got a
29:43
Speaker 3: list of things that you have not watched from the
29:44
Speaker 3: past that I feel like we need to put in here.
29:48
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, I'm down.
29:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I get I'm like, you've never seen this,
29:52
Speaker 4: We must watch.
29:55
Speaker 1: That with the clue. Oh yeah, that was another fun
29:59
Speaker 1: when we did this year.
30:00
Speaker 2: Well, last year, last year five. Yeah, no, I'm excited.
30:06
Speaker 2: I always love seeing a movie that i've heard a missed. Yeah, yeah, yeaheah.
30:13
Speaker 2: I also loved Clueless, which I don't know if we
30:15
Speaker 2: did that this year, but twenty twenty five.
30:17
Speaker 4: I don't think we did that this year.
30:19
Speaker 3: I will say the Unicorn, which was one that I
30:21
Speaker 3: had never seen the last Unicorns, I mean unique, a
30:28
Speaker 3: unique experience.
30:29
Speaker 4: I appreciated that. I did.
30:33
Speaker 1: I love that movie.
30:35
Speaker 2: I knew it was a strange one too, but you
30:38
Speaker 2: also knew I had that outlined for.
30:40
Speaker 1: Years, two years.
30:41
Speaker 4: It's true.
30:41
Speaker 1: It's just waiting because I was like, it was a
30:44
Speaker 1: feminist movie.
30:45
Speaker 3: Time.
30:46
Speaker 4: Yes, sometimes I'm glad to know now.
30:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're welcome, You're welcome, and thank you Samantha for
30:56
Speaker 2: coming along this journey with me as always, thank you
30:59
Speaker 2: for me oh of course and uh and you listeners,
31:04
Speaker 2: thank you for listening. This would not happen without you.
31:08
Speaker 2: So please do let us know any of your favorites
31:11
Speaker 2: and what you would like to see in twenty twenty six,
31:14
Speaker 2: what you think we should be talking about tackling book recommendations,
31:18
Speaker 2: movie recommendations, all that we would love to hear from you,
31:21
Speaker 2: and we hope that all of you are well and
31:23
Speaker 2: that you've had a happy New.
31:25
Speaker 1: Year so far.
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