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- 0:04SPEAKER_01: I'm eating something.
- 0:06SPEAKER_02: What are you eating?
- 0:07SPEAKER_02: I'm eating a Tums.
- 0:08SPEAKER_02: Did you pay for it?
- 0:09SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 0:10SPEAKER_02: Oh, so it's not a food heist to start us off?
- 0:12SPEAKER_01: No, it's not.
- 0:13SPEAKER_01: Oh, dang.
- 0:13SPEAKER_01: Is Tums food?
- 0:15SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 0:15SPEAKER_01: Is this one is has like a candy shell.
- 0:19SPEAKER_01: Oh.
- 0:19SPEAKER_01: And so I think anything with a candy shell counts as food.
- 0:23SPEAKER_02: Right?
- 0:23SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah.
- 0:25SPEAKER_02: You could put a candy shell around a squirrel.
- 0:29SPEAKER_01: So anytime I travel, does this happen to you?
- 0:32SPEAKER_01: Tell me if this is a TMI.
- 0:33SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 0:33SPEAKER_01: But I get more acid, right?
- 0:36SPEAKER_01: Like my stomach's like, you were eating at this time, I think is what it's saying.
- 0:40SPEAKER_01: When you were on the trip, why aren't you eating now?
- 0:44SPEAKER_03: Does that make sense?
- 0:44SPEAKER_03: I get heartburn.
- 0:45SPEAKER_01: So I only get heartburn if I travel and I just came back from Hawaii.
- 0:48SPEAKER_01: So like the week after I change time zones, my body is like annoyed that I'm not eating at the same time that I did at the time zones.
- 0:57SPEAKER_01: Does that happen at the start of a trip?
- 0:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it happens.
- 1:00SPEAKER_01: It takes about a week after I get back.
- 1:02SPEAKER_01: So it's really the only time that I get any heartburn, is that.
- 1:05SPEAKER_02: So my digestion is always better on a trip than it is at home.
- 1:11SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
- 1:12SPEAKER_02: And I don't know what I eat at home that ruins it.
- 1:17SPEAKER_02: And my prevailing theory is cereal.
- 1:21SPEAKER_02: Because I love breakfast cereal, but I never eat it when I'm traveling because I've never been to a hotel or restaurant that has the milk at the temperature that I like.
- 1:31SPEAKER_02: And that just kind of ruins the whole thing.
- 1:33SPEAKER_01: What is the temperature that you like, Milk?
- 1:34SPEAKER_02: It's supposed to be cold.
- 1:36SPEAKER_02: Okay, good.
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: I'm supposed to be appropriately cold.
- 1:40SPEAKER_01: I really thought you might be like straight from the hot milk.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: I mean, do you like your drinks lukewarm normally?
- 1:48SPEAKER_01: No.
- 1:49SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 1:50SPEAKER_01: No, but milk has to be cold.
- 1:51SPEAKER_01: Milk has to be very cold.
- 1:53SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 1:54SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 1:54SPEAKER_01: Well, when I used to have cereal, I liked my milk very cold also.
- 1:58SPEAKER_01: I haven't had it in like 30 years.
- 2:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:01SPEAKER_02: I remember when I was a kid reading Wrinkle in Time, and in the first chapter, she and her brother are making warm milk on a pan on the stove.
- 2:12SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, who in their right mind would ever want warm milk?
- 2:16SPEAKER_02: It did not and still does not make sense to me.
- 2:18SPEAKER_01: So, Donald, I did eat like cereal and stuff when I was young.
- 2:22SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 2:22SPEAKER_01: And then I went to Korea when I was 19.
- 2:24SPEAKER_01: And they eat like real food for breakfast.
- 2:27SPEAKER_01: They just have, you know, rice and kimchi and stuff.
- 2:29SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, you can do that?
- 2:30SPEAKER_01: I don't have to eat this gross breakfast food that everyone always eats.
- 2:33SPEAKER_01: I can just like have a sandwich.
- 2:36SPEAKER_01: And when I get back, I'm like, nah, I'm I'm gonna get up and eat something that I like.
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: See, here's the thing.
- 2:42SPEAKER_02: I rarely eat cereal for breakfast.
- 2:45SPEAKER_02: It is breakfast cereal, but I eat it as a snack throughout the day.
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 2:49SPEAKER_02: If I'm hungry mid-afternoon, cereal.
- 2:52SPEAKER_01: That's interesting.
- 2:53SPEAKER_01: There are no cereals that I just actively like.
- 2:56SPEAKER_01: They're too sugary.
- 2:57SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't like sweet things.
- 2:59SPEAKER_02: See, I don't like sweet things either.
- 3:01SPEAKER_02: My favorite cereal in the world is wheat checks.
- 3:03SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 3:04SPEAKER_01: I see that.
- 3:05SPEAKER_02: That has a really good flavor to it.
- 3:08SPEAKER_02: And it isn't sweetened.
- 3:09SPEAKER_01: I don't think that I would like wheat checks because when I've eaten them, like I like checks mixed with lots of salt and stuff.
- 3:15SPEAKER_01: Um so maybe then, but I imagine that I wouldn't like the wheat checks, yeah, on their own.
- 3:22SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I just don't like my family, all thinks it's bizarre.
- 3:25SPEAKER_01: Like pancakes, like I don't really like pancakes.
- 3:29SPEAKER_01: What?
- 3:29SPEAKER_02: Amen, brother.
- 3:30SPEAKER_02: No! Oh, you're both insane.
- 3:32SPEAKER_02: Like and my wife loves pancakes.
- 3:34SPEAKER_02: I'll have them a lot.
- 3:36SPEAKER_01: I'll have a pancake as a dessert after a meal.
- 3:39SPEAKER_01: Like, it's a cake with sugar on it.
- 3:42SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, that's totally fair.
- 3:43SPEAKER_01: It's like eating a donut, right?
- 3:45SPEAKER_01: Again, another breakfast thing.
- 3:46SPEAKER_01: I don't like stuff like that.
- 3:47SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
- 3:47SPEAKER_01: I don't like donuts.
- 3:49SPEAKER_02: If I'm lactose intolerant and I don't like sugar, why would I want to eat pancakes?
- 3:55SPEAKER_01: So pancakes don't really do it for me.
- 3:56SPEAKER_01: Eggs on toast get a thumbs up for me.
- 3:59SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 3:59SPEAKER_01: An egg sandwich.
- 4:00SPEAKER_01: But a lot of the stuff people eat for breakfast just isn't my thing.
- 4:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:04SPEAKER_01: I like eggs.
- 4:05SPEAKER_02: Eggs with rice more than toast.
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
- 4:09SPEAKER_00: In all fairness, yes.
- 4:10SPEAKER_00: We over here in America have probably the most sugary breakfast ever.
- 4:15SPEAKER_02: That said, I think the convenient breakfast over here is sugar.
- 4:20SPEAKER_02: But when we lived in Germany, we would make American breakfast for friends and like the missionaries and stuff, and everyone loved it.
- 4:30SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 4:30SPEAKER_02: I feel like the kind of classic, I don't know what you'd call it, farm breakfast in America.
- 4:36SPEAKER_02: Eggs, bacon, potatoes.
- 4:37SPEAKER_02: Eggs, bacon, hash browns, uh, sausage, maybe some pancakes on this side, an omelet.
- 4:44SPEAKER_02: We do that really well.
- 4:46SPEAKER_02: We do.
- 4:47SPEAKER_02: That is a spectacular breakfast.
- 4:48SPEAKER_02: That's a lot of work.
- 4:49SPEAKER_02: So you don't normally work.
- 4:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 4:50SPEAKER_02: So you rarely have it at home.
- 4:53SPEAKER_00: Anyways, that's not what we're here for.
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: We're here because, audience, we haven't done a QA in forever.
- 4:59SPEAKER_00: Yay! We are going to do a QA because I have lots of questions from Times.
- 5:04SPEAKER_00: So Yeah.
- 5:04SPEAKER_00: If you can possibly remind us which episode it came from.
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: I will do my best from all the areas.
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: Because we so stay on topic.
- 5:13SPEAKER_00: Indeed.
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: Alrighty.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: Well, how apt that we have this.
- 5:17SPEAKER_00: This comes from Nairon 25.
- 5:19SPEAKER_00: I don't have the episode, but he says, Hello, Americans.
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: What do Dan and Brandon mean when they say biscuits?
- 5:24SPEAKER_00: I'm in England, and what we call biscuits cannot be purchased from chicken shops.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: Thanks.
- 5:29SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
- 5:29SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 5:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that is that is a legitimate question.
- 5:32SPEAKER_01: Totally.
- 5:33SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 5:33SPEAKER_02: An American biscuit is kind of like what in the UK you would call a scone.
- 5:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 5:40SPEAKER_01: But it's usually saltier.
- 5:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, not sweet.
- 5:44SPEAKER_01: Not sweets.
- 5:44SPEAKER_01: You don't put people do put jam on biscuits.
- 5:48SPEAKER_02: You do put jam on them, you put honey on them, but the basic bread itself is kind of dry, kind of crumbly, savory.
- 5:56SPEAKER_02: Lots of butter.
- 5:57SPEAKER_02: Buttery.
- 5:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 5:59SPEAKER_02: So you would eat them.
- 6:00SPEAKER_02: They're a lot more common in the south than they are here where we live, but you know, we still make them a lot.
- 6:06SPEAKER_02: My wife has a fantastic biscuit recipe.
- 6:08SPEAKER_01: Biscuits and gravy are kind of a southern meal that is really tasty.
- 6:13SPEAKER_01: It's very bad for you.
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: Uh you should try it when you come to America, particularly if you can get to the South, to one of the good restaurants that'll do stuff like that.
- 6:20SPEAKER_02: There's several YouTube channels that do this, but there's one I watch where they will take American foods over to a British high school and give them American foods.
- 6:31SPEAKER_02: And the episode where they gave them biscuits and gravy was amazing because they thought it sounded ludicrous because they think of biscuits as sweet cookies.
- 6:41SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 6:41SPEAKER_02: And then when they saw biscuits and gravy, you know, it just looks like somebody threw up on some old rolls.
- 6:48SPEAKER_02: But then when they tasted it, it was the best thing they'd ever had in their lives.
- 6:51SPEAKER_01: I mean, the British and their gravy are a thing.
- 6:54SPEAKER_01: So I would expect that they would like it.
- 6:56SPEAKER_01: Just they have to know what American biscuit is.
- 6:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 6:58SPEAKER_02: Well, and the the sausage gravy you get in biscuits and gravy doesn't look like a British gravy at all.
- 7:03SPEAKER_01: No, it doesn't.
- 7:04SPEAKER_01: It's it's the it's a white gravy with sausage in it.
- 7:07SPEAKER_01: It's very tasty.
- 7:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 7:08SPEAKER_01: It is a breakfast food sometimes.
- 7:10SPEAKER_01: Yes, it is.
- 7:11SPEAKER_02: There you go.
- 7:12SPEAKER_02: Segways.
- 7:13SPEAKER_02: I've had this.
- 7:14SPEAKER_02: Does it count as a segue if we come back around to the first thing we already finished talking about?
- 7:21SPEAKER_02: Sure.
- 7:22SPEAKER_02: We make the rules.
- 7:23SPEAKER_00: It's a callback.
- 7:24SPEAKER_00: Ah, that's better.
- 7:25SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: Alrighty.
- 7:27SPEAKER_00: It's a reprise.
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: A reprise.
- 7:30SPEAKER_00: This comes from an old episode.
- 7:31SPEAKER_00: I've had this written down for a while ago.
- 7:33SPEAKER_00: But from DMI 5664, they said, You're really just blew by Dan saying he'd love to mash two unrelated shows together, but didn't come up with any examples.
- 7:45SPEAKER_00: That might be a fun topic.
- 7:46SPEAKER_00: Dan, do you have two unrelated shows that you would just two smash together in the show?
- 7:51SPEAKER_02: Unrelated shows that I want to smash together and see what happens.
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: Like The Godfather and Little House on the Prairie.
- 8:00SPEAKER_02: Movies.
- 8:00SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's a movie, you're right.
- 8:01SPEAKER_02: Or TV shows.
- 8:03SPEAKER_00: Breaking Bad in The Little House on the Prairie.
- 8:05SPEAKER_02: I mean, Breaking Bad in The Little House on the Prairie sounds phenomenal.
- 8:09SPEAKER_02: I would watch every episode of the after hours.
- 8:13SPEAKER_02: That was the one I thought, right?
- 8:14SPEAKER_01: Like somebody cooking cocaine because they didn't have meth back then.
- 8:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 8:19SPEAKER_01: And getting all the cowboys hooked.
- 8:21SPEAKER_01: And it's just that's that's yeah.
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 8:24SPEAKER_02: Snake oil salesman goes around from town to town.
- 8:27SPEAKER_02: But sells cocaine.
- 8:28SPEAKER_02: Selling his tinctures.
- 8:29SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
- 8:30SPEAKER_02: He gets people addicted.
- 8:31SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that sounds really good.
- 8:33SPEAKER_02: That's what I'd watch.
- 8:34SPEAKER_02: So that's my answer.
- 8:36SPEAKER_02: Thanks for answering for me.
- 8:37SPEAKER_00: No way.
- 8:38SPEAKER_02: There's a new Little House on the Prairie series on Netflix.
- 8:41SPEAKER_02: There is.
- 8:42SPEAKER_02: And I watched the first episode with my 10-year-old, and we were fairly meh on it.
- 8:49SPEAKER_01: So what I would like to do is smash up Ted Lasso with an actual sports show.
- 8:54SPEAKER_01: So you actually have a sports team doing a thing while they're doing all the drama and stuff, rather than it being kind of like this like um Like Ted Lasso and Friday Night Lights.
- 9:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 9:06SPEAKER_02: Where it's small town football, but everyone's nice and happy.
- 9:08SPEAKER_01: Well, I just I just want Ted Lasso to actually have a storyline across the season.
- 9:15SPEAKER_02: Giving him a storyline feels like it's completely anathema to seasons two and three.
- 9:20SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 9:21SPEAKER_01: Then season one had it.
- 9:22SPEAKER_02: I know, and it was the good season.
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: And so if they were trying to actually like do something with the sports team and learn a lesson and have an actual underdog sports story alongside all of the great drama, yeah, then the season would have been seasons two and three would have been good.
- 9:38SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 9:38SPEAKER_01: Um rather than season two having some good episodes and then us not even wanting to watch season three.
- 9:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 9:43SPEAKER_02: I'm so glad that you share my distaste for seasons two and three because our our listeners are gonna hate me for it, but this time they have to hate you for it with me.
- 9:53SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know if this is a controversial opinion, right?
- 9:56SPEAKER_01: Like Ted Lasso, season two, is really well acted.
- 10:00SPEAKER_01: There's some really great episodes.
- 10:01SPEAKER_01: I love that they delved into panic attacks with him and some of the, you know, like, but it floundered.
- 10:07SPEAKER_01: It just it didn't know what it was about.
- 10:14SPEAKER_01: A story about the owner of the sports team and the young player having a romance.
- 10:20SPEAKER_01: It's a power imbalance that like they they did it as well as you possibly could.
- 10:25SPEAKER_01: But if those genders were reversed, everyone would have the ick.
- 10:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I had the ick the whole time.
- 10:32SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yeah, you show this powerful woman and she's got a great arc in season one.
- 10:39SPEAKER_01: Why can't she find someone that she belongs with that isn't monetarily beholden to her?
- 10:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that isn't her employee and half her age.
- 10:49SPEAKER_01: They spent so much time on that.
- 10:51SPEAKER_01: And it was as well as it was acted, both actors did a great job.
- 10:54SPEAKER_01: I was bothered by it the whole time.
- 10:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 10:56SPEAKER_01: And they they didn't deal with the parts of it that bothered me.
- 11:01SPEAKER_01: It just yeah.
- 11:02SPEAKER_01: Okay, so here's my pitch.
- 11:05SPEAKER_02: All of the Ted Lasso main characters as the bridge crew of a starship.
- 11:12SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 11:12SPEAKER_02: Star Trek Ted Lasso.
- 11:14SPEAKER_02: Oh he's the captain.
- 11:15SPEAKER_02: No, he's not the captain, he's the first officer.
- 11:18SPEAKER_02: No, I think he's the captain, and Rebecca is like the diplomat or something who passed.
- 11:26SPEAKER_01: That you have to cater to.
- 11:27SPEAKER_01: So she could overrule you at any time.
- 11:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 11:29SPEAKER_01: All right, what's Keely?
- 11:30SPEAKER_01: Keely.
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: Oh, has to be communications.
- 11:33SPEAKER_01: Communications.
- 11:34SPEAKER_01: I suppose that makes sense.
- 11:35SPEAKER_01: Or doctor.
- 11:37SPEAKER_02: Keely as as the doctor.
- 11:39SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 11:40SPEAKER_02: I would love.
- 11:41SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 11:41SPEAKER_02: Roy.
- 11:42SPEAKER_02: Roy, security officer, obviously.
- 11:44SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 11:45SPEAKER_02: Jamie Tart as the helmsman.
- 11:48SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sure.
- 11:49SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 11:49SPEAKER_01: That makes sense.
- 11:50SPEAKER_02: That makes perfect sense.
- 11:51SPEAKER_01: All makes a lot of sense.
- 11:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 11:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 11:53SPEAKER_02: First officer would be uh Beard.
- 11:55SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 11:56SPEAKER_02: And then what's his name?
- 11:58SPEAKER_02: Rebecca's assistant.
- 11:59SPEAKER_02: Is he engineering?
- 12:00SPEAKER_02: Engineering is Nate the Great.
- 12:02SPEAKER_02: Nate the Great is engineering.
- 12:05SPEAKER_02: I love this.
- 12:07SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 12:07SPEAKER_02: This is what I want to see.
- 12:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 12:09SPEAKER_02: That could be a lot of fun.
- 12:11SPEAKER_01: It's a good show right there.
- 12:13SPEAKER_01: Transpose them.
- 12:14SPEAKER_01: Just want to watch it right now.
- 12:18SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 12:18SPEAKER_00: Make it happen, Dan.
- 12:19SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: Make it so.
- 12:21SPEAKER_02: We have the power to make our commission art of that.
- 12:26SPEAKER_02: Because I want to see all the Ted Lasso characters in Starfield uniforms.
- 12:33SPEAKER_02: That'd be awesome.
- 12:34SPEAKER_02: That would be great.
- 12:35SPEAKER_02: With, you know, the soccer logo just kind of delicately worked into the uniform somewhere.
- 12:42SPEAKER_01: There you are.
- 12:43SPEAKER_01: Yep, I'm on board.
- 12:44SPEAKER_01: That's fan art.
- 12:45SPEAKER_01: Send it to Dan.
- 12:47SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 12:48SPEAKER_00: But not AI art.
- 12:50SPEAKER_00: No.
- 12:50SPEAKER_00: No.
- 12:51SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 12:51SPEAKER_00: We don't want that.
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: Next question.
- 12:54SPEAKER_00: Next question.
- 12:55SPEAKER_00: From J Swag Audio.
- 12:57SPEAKER_00: What would Emily's wish have been, Brandon?
- 13:00SPEAKER_00: This context is from the newlywed game question.
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: Brandon gets one true wish.
- 13:03SPEAKER_00: No monkey Paul involved.
- 13:04SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: What do you wish for?
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: You were like, oh, I know what Emily would wish for.
- 13:07SPEAKER_00: We never circle back around.
- 13:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 13:09SPEAKER_01: She would wish for all guns to vanish and no one be able to make any more.
- 13:13SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not even joking.
- 13:14SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 13:14SPEAKER_01: She's mentioned that multiple times.
- 13:16SPEAKER_01: The violence in the world bothers her.
- 13:20SPEAKER_01: And she doesn't want to take away people's free will.
- 13:23SPEAKER_01: But if she could take away the weapons that they used to make so much damage that there were no guns or anything, you know, gun-like.
- 13:30SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 13:30SPEAKER_01: If you had to go back to stabbing a dude, she feels like maybe there would be less of it.
- 13:36SPEAKER_01: So I'm reminded of an Einstein quote.
- 13:39SPEAKER_00: That delights me.
- 13:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 13:41SPEAKER_00: World War III will be with uh sticks and stones.
- 13:43SPEAKER_00: I don't know what World War III will be fought with, but I know that World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
- 13:46SPEAKER_00: That's it.
- 13:47SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 13:47SPEAKER_01: It's a good quote.
- 13:48SPEAKER_01: So that was Emily's wish.
- 13:50SPEAKER_01: She's expressed that to me somewhat jokingly, somewhat realistically.
- 13:54SPEAKER_01: She whispers it to me because she doesn't want Scar to hear, because he would not like all the guns vanishing.
- 14:00SPEAKER_02: You know what I would do?
- 14:03SPEAKER_02: I have this list in my head of if I were in charge of America, which is a good reason that I should not be in charge of America.
- 14:11SPEAKER_02: If I were, day one, giant trucks, completely illegal.
- 14:15SPEAKER_02: If the hood of your pickup truck is above like four feet, no longer street legal.
- 14:20SPEAKER_02: Day two, no golf courses.
- 14:24SPEAKER_02: No golf courses.
- 14:25SPEAKER_02: Every golf course becomes a public park.
- 14:28SPEAKER_02: Why do you hate golf courses?
- 14:30SPEAKER_02: Well, because golf is dumb.
- 14:33SPEAKER_02: And also because it bothers me that there's all this wonderful green space that is limited to use for a very narrow window of people.
- 14:43SPEAKER_01: There are a lot of very rich person golf courses, but the majority of them are not.
- 14:47SPEAKER_01: Oh, I know that.
- 14:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 14:49SPEAKER_01: Normal people, lots of people going and enjoying them.
- 14:51SPEAKER_01: There's a golf course right by my house.
- 14:53SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 14:53SPEAKER_02: And it bothers me every time I drive through it.
- 14:56SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 14:57SPEAKER_01: I'm seeing some of the biases.
- 14:58SPEAKER_01: Giant trucks, gone.
- 14:59SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 15:00SPEAKER_01: Golf courses, gone.
- 15:01SPEAKER_01: What's day three?
- 15:03SPEAKER_02: You've only gotten that far?
- 15:05SPEAKER_02: I think I should stop at day two.
- 15:07SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 15:07SPEAKER_02: People already hate me enough.
- 15:08SPEAKER_02: We'll let people get over the giant trucks and golf courses.
- 15:12SPEAKER_02: Cats, you're just going to kill all the cats.
- 15:14SPEAKER_02: There's no way you could kill all the cats.
- 15:16SPEAKER_02: They are nature's perfect urban predator.
- 15:19SPEAKER_02: They will outlast us all.
- 15:20SPEAKER_00: They will last us all.
- 15:22SPEAKER_00: I hope Adam does not kill you after this episode.
- 15:25SPEAKER_00: I know.
- 15:25SPEAKER_02: He's going to be sad.
- 15:26SPEAKER_02: And Adam being sad is like the one reason that I would slightly hesitate from doing it.
- 15:31SPEAKER_02: To nuke all the golf courses.
- 15:33SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
- 15:35SPEAKER_00: Alrighty.
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: So this is from a whole bunch of humans.
- 15:39SPEAKER_00: I saw this consistently commented.
- 15:41SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 15:42SPEAKER_00: Orcs and goblins are separate beings.
- 15:45SPEAKER_00: They have evolved into two different things.
- 15:47SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
- 15:49SPEAKER_02: Are these people complaining because we talked about Tolkien's original definition that had them as essentially identical and then DD has split them into different things?
- 15:59SPEAKER_02: And so everybody's complaining because they think D D is real.
- 16:05SPEAKER_02: Like, you guys know that orcs and goblins are made up, right?
- 16:10SPEAKER_02: Telling us that I'm wrong about them is laughable.
- 16:15SPEAKER_01: What are they actually mad about?
- 16:17SPEAKER_01: You didn't even finish.
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: I I let me finish.
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 16:19SPEAKER_00: So most of them, when we were doing the Dark Lord episode, where Brandon, you know, surreptitiously said, you know, they're the same thing.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: We made a call for the Urukai.
- 16:28SPEAKER_00: Of course they're the same thing.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: A lot of people had taken the position that they are not the same thing and that they are different.
- 16:35SPEAKER_00: And they want to show you.
- 16:35SPEAKER_01: In DD they aren't, but in the real world they are the same thing.
- 16:41SPEAKER_01: I yes.
- 16:42SPEAKER_01: I've talked to Saruman.
- 16:44SPEAKER_02: Many of Brandon's best friends are orcs.
- 16:47SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 16:48SPEAKER_01: No, servants.
- 16:50SPEAKER_00: Servants.
- 16:50SPEAKER_00: They are minions.
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: Worse.
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 16:53SPEAKER_00: Ugh.
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 16:55SPEAKER_00: To answer the question.
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: Lackeys.
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: Lackeys is better.
- 16:57SPEAKER_00: Yes, lackeys.
- 16:58SPEAKER_00: There we go.
- 16:58SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 16:59SPEAKER_01: So the position has not changed.
- 17:00SPEAKER_01: No, the position has not changed.
- 17:02SPEAKER_01: Like in DD, yeah, they're different things.
- 17:03SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 17:04SPEAKER_02: Like you could come up with 10 different fantasy properties that have orcs and goblins in them, and they'll all treat orcs and goblins in a different way from each other.
- 17:12SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
- 17:12SPEAKER_01: But if you go to the historical source in Professor Tolkien's research, he talks about the fact that they are the same.
- 17:19SPEAKER_01: And he is the leading authority.
- 17:21SPEAKER_01: The leading authority.
- 17:22SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 17:23SPEAKER_00: There you go, everyone.
- 17:24SPEAKER_00: Speaking of lackeys, David Fryer for 35 says, I think you guys are underestimating slimes.
- 17:31SPEAKER_00: Slimes are very powerful, but they're cheap and they set and forget.
- 17:35SPEAKER_00: Putting out slimes is like putting up a chain link fence, but without the setup.
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: And it's even cheaper.
- 17:40SPEAKER_00: They don't stop people who are determined, but they keep out nosy people.
- 17:44SPEAKER_00: Has this convinced you at all?
- 17:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a good argument.
- 17:47SPEAKER_01: I'll bump them up a slot based on your argument.
- 17:50SPEAKER_01: Very well reasoned.
- 17:51SPEAKER_01: There you go.
- 17:53SPEAKER_02: A t-shirt that says, I think you guys are underestimating slimes.
- 18:00SPEAKER_02: That's my new idea.
- 18:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'll give it to you.
- 18:02SPEAKER_01: It's just here's my counter-argument to you.
- 18:05SPEAKER_01: I know a lot of really annoying heroes that could not defeat most of the other minions.
- 18:10SPEAKER_01: But then because they're slimes that they can go practice on, they end up becoming an actual pain.
- 18:18SPEAKER_01: If there were no slimes, if you just you know started with the direwolves, these people would all be eaten.
- 18:24SPEAKER_01: And then they wouldn't be a problem in the future.
- 18:27SPEAKER_01: But I will bump them up.
- 18:29SPEAKER_00: Then they go to D tier.
- 18:30SPEAKER_01: They go to D tier.
- 18:31SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
- 18:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 18:32SPEAKER_01: Can you have dire slimes?
- 18:34SPEAKER_01: Is that a thing?
- 18:34SPEAKER_01: The slimes come in all kinds of varieties.
- 18:37SPEAKER_01: The problem is some of the varieties, like some for some reason, drop like a full bar of gold.
- 18:42SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 18:43SPEAKER_02: Ludicrous.
- 18:44SPEAKER_01: It is ludicrous.
- 18:45SPEAKER_01: Like I didn't pay them that bar of gold.
- 18:46SPEAKER_01: Where did it come from?
- 18:47SPEAKER_01: They don't give it to me.
- 18:48SPEAKER_01: Then the stupid hero gets a bar of gold and he learns that killing slimes sometimes gives him a bar of gold.
- 18:54SPEAKER_01: It's aggravating.
- 18:55SPEAKER_01: Maybe they create it like pearls, you know.
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: They probably do.
- 18:58SPEAKER_01: I don't pay enough attention to slimes, obviously.
- 19:00SPEAKER_01: That's what the mask.
- 19:01SPEAKER_01: Gold bars just slime excrement?
- 19:04SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
- 19:04SPEAKER_01: Possible.
- 19:06SPEAKER_00: If that's the case, I'd put them up to C at that point.
- 19:08SPEAKER_00: They become a very useful income.
- 19:09SPEAKER_01: No, no, you can't add the the darklord doesn't get that income.
- 19:12SPEAKER_01: Oh.
- 19:13SPEAKER_01: That's not income we get.
- 19:14SPEAKER_01: You're mistaking.
- 19:15SPEAKER_01: That's non-taxable income.
- 19:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 19:17SPEAKER_01: For some reason, when the minions get killed, they sometimes have awesome stuff on them that they weren't using that I didn't give them.
- 19:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 19:23SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 19:24SPEAKER_01: This doesn't make any sense.
- 19:26SPEAKER_01: If I kill a thousand lackeys, I get nothing.
- 19:30SPEAKER_01: But this doofus walks in and suddenly there is a vorpal sword on that knoll.
- 19:38SPEAKER_01: And it's like I didn't give him a vorpal sword.
- 19:40SPEAKER_01: If I did, he would have killed you.
- 19:41SPEAKER_01: No, it's just a vorpal sword.
- 19:43SPEAKER_01: Just there.
- 19:43SPEAKER_01: Just there.
- 19:44SPEAKER_01: I haven't figured it out yet.
- 19:44SPEAKER_02: It's some weird thing.
- 19:46SPEAKER_02: Ridiculous.
- 19:46SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 19:47SPEAKER_00: Alright.
- 19:47SPEAKER_00: What's next?
- 19:48SPEAKER_00: What is next?
- 19:49SPEAKER_00: We have from TK Mate 14.
- 19:54SPEAKER_00: But what would the Muppets cast be for Wake Up Dead Man?
- 19:58SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
- 20:01SPEAKER_00: Wake Up Dead Man.
- 20:02SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
- 20:03SPEAKER_00: Alright.
- 20:04SPEAKER_00: This is from the Dead Man episode, if you couldn't tell.
- 20:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:07SPEAKER_01: So what's his name?
- 20:08SPEAKER_01: Thanos, who's in it.
- 20:10SPEAKER_01: He's the dead body.
- 20:11SPEAKER_01: So he's the old priest.
- 20:13SPEAKER_01: The old priest.
- 20:14SPEAKER_02: Who's cantagerous and disagreeable.
- 20:16SPEAKER_02: Is the Eagle.
- 20:18SPEAKER_02: Sam the Eagle.
- 20:19SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 20:19SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 20:20SPEAKER_01: Could be Fozzie Bear.
- 20:22SPEAKER_01: What about Sweetems?
- 20:24SPEAKER_01: No, because he's articulate.
- 20:26SPEAKER_01: He has to deliver these lines.
- 20:27SPEAKER_01: And some of them are crude, and Sam the Eagle delivering them might be funny.
- 20:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:32SPEAKER_01: That's but Sam is not a crude person.
- 20:34SPEAKER_01: He's not.
- 20:35SPEAKER_01: I can't see him saying those.
- 20:36SPEAKER_02: But can you can you see any of the Muppets?
- 20:39SPEAKER_02: Any of the Muppets?
- 20:40SPEAKER_02: Animal, but he doesn't see.
- 20:41SPEAKER_02: I mean, obviously Pepe the Prawn would say all of that dialogue.
- 20:44SPEAKER_02: Oh, he would.
- 20:45SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 20:46SPEAKER_02: He wouldn't feel bad about it.
- 20:47SPEAKER_01: Alright, Pepe the Prawn.
- 20:49SPEAKER_01: Alright.
- 20:50SPEAKER_01: Is cast as uh as Thanos.
- 20:51SPEAKER_01: Young Priest is our human, right?
- 20:53SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 20:53SPEAKER_01: Young Priest is our human.
- 20:54SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 20:55SPEAKER_01: Miss Piggy as the matron who kind of runs the church.
- 20:58SPEAKER_01: That is the casting, yeah.
- 21:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 21:00SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
- 21:01SPEAKER_01: All right, who's Benoit Blanc?
- 21:04SPEAKER_01: Benoit Blanc.
- 21:05SPEAKER_01: No, he's the Swedish chef.
- 21:08SPEAKER_01: You just can't understand him.
- 21:11SPEAKER_01: That would be so great.
- 21:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 21:13SPEAKER_02: He comes in.
- 21:14SPEAKER_01: Vern, Vern, Verrun.
- 21:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 21:17SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 21:18SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 21:18SPEAKER_01: I don't understand what you're saying.
- 21:20SPEAKER_01: I know you're a brilliant detective.
- 21:22SPEAKER_01: But what are you saying?
- 21:24SPEAKER_01: I would also love Benoit Blanc as Dr.
- 21:26SPEAKER_02: Teeth.
- 21:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 21:28SPEAKER_01: Gonzo would make a good Benoit Blanc also doing the accent.
- 21:32SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
- 21:32SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
- 21:33SPEAKER_01: That's actually the most funny because the Swedish stuff gets old after one scene.
- 21:38SPEAKER_01: But Gonzo doing a Benoit Blanc accent with his chickens, trying to solve the crime, is that works really well.
- 21:47SPEAKER_01: That works the whole movie.
- 21:48SPEAKER_01: So yeah, there you go.
- 21:50SPEAKER_01: There's some.
- 21:51SPEAKER_01: Oh, then Kermit.
- 21:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah, where do you put Kermit?
- 21:54SPEAKER_01: Kermit Kermit isn't in this movie.
- 21:56SPEAKER_02: You hear Kermit's voice on the phone.
- 21:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 21:59SPEAKER_02: The gender swap.
- 22:00SPEAKER_02: Woman that runs the construction equipment rental agency.
- 22:04SPEAKER_01: Oh, there you go.
- 22:05SPEAKER_01: We aren't forcing Kermit to deal with this stupid idea.
- 22:08SPEAKER_02: The new Kermit voice is not great either, so we're just gonna leave him out.
- 22:12SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
- 22:13SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
- 22:14unknown: What about me?
- 22:15SPEAKER_00: You got a good Kermit voice.
- 22:16SPEAKER_02: You do have a good Kermit voice.
- 22:17SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 22:18SPEAKER_00: Alrighty, from X6402.
- 22:22SPEAKER_00: Am I the only person who has watched these and thought Ben was quiet and in the room for every episode?
- 22:27SPEAKER_00: A lot of people, I don't think, know who Ben is.
- 22:30SPEAKER_00: We talk about him a lot.
- 22:31SPEAKER_00: For the new viewers, who is Ben?
- 22:33SPEAKER_00: Who is Ben?
- 22:34SPEAKER_02: First of all, I love this question because it is a correct usage of am I the only person who?
- 22:41SPEAKER_02: Because so often when you see this online, it's someone saying the most obvious thing that's ever occurred to anyone.
- 22:49SPEAKER_02: Whereas this is a genuinely wonderful question, and I think is kind of niche.
- 22:55SPEAKER_02: Ben is our former roommate.
- 22:58SPEAKER_02: Brandon and I have never been roommates, but we have both been roommates with Ben.
- 23:02SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 23:03SPEAKER_02: He is a computer programmer.
- 23:07SPEAKER_01: And he is a little bit the Sam the Eagle of our whole group.
- 23:11SPEAKER_01: Meaning he had a normal job.
- 23:14SPEAKER_01: He had a normal major.
- 23:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 23:16SPEAKER_01: And then all of his friends, for some reason, are all these weirdos who are fantasy nerds who want to become authors.
- 23:22SPEAKER_02: And he's a big fantasy nerd too, but he's not an artist.
- 23:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 23:28SPEAKER_02: And he has a real job.
- 23:29SPEAKER_02: And he like dresses nicely and like is he knew how to like comb his hair to look not just combed but classy.
- 23:40SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 23:41SPEAKER_01: And so the reason we reference Ben a lot is number one, he's our friend.
- 23:45SPEAKER_01: Like when Dan and I were in college, we started a writing group together.
- 23:50SPEAKER_01: And Ben was in it just because Ben's around.
- 23:53SPEAKER_02: He doesn't write, but we put him in our writing group.
- 23:55SPEAKER_02: He was in the Dave Wolverton class with us.
- 23:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 24:00SPEAKER_02: I think that you know, some of the only writing he's done.
- 24:02SPEAKER_02: He has composed music.
- 24:04SPEAKER_02: He used to write music all the time on a little MIDI player in our dorm room.
- 24:09SPEAKER_01: But he is the guy that we like to joke with.
- 24:13SPEAKER_01: You know how you've got you'll have a friend group, and there will be one that's a little more serious.
- 24:19SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
- 24:19SPEAKER_01: And that is the person that it's fun to poke.
- 24:22SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 24:23SPEAKER_01: Ben is fun to poke.
- 24:24SPEAKER_01: And getting Ben to just look at you and shake his head is an achievement.
- 24:29SPEAKER_01: Achievement.
- 24:30SPEAKER_01: Any day that you do that is a brighter day.
- 24:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 24:33SPEAKER_01: When Ben has tired of putting up with you.
- 24:36SPEAKER_02: There are lots of people who know us both really well.
- 24:40SPEAKER_02: Ben is the only one who created a chat group with the three of us to complain about stuff we say on this show.
- 24:46SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 24:47SPEAKER_01: And that is why we started saying, How's that, Ben?
- 24:51SPEAKER_01: Because we knew he was listening and we knew he was going to complain.
- 24:53SPEAKER_02: Well, and he specifically called out, we don't have an intro or an outro.
- 24:58SPEAKER_02: And he's like, You guys need an outro.
- 25:00SPEAKER_02: And so the new outro was, How's that, Ben?
- 25:04SPEAKER_02: So, and I'm sorry, I just said that and half of you turned off because you thought it was over, but it's not over yet.
- 25:10SPEAKER_01: Not over yet.
- 25:10SPEAKER_01: So that is Ben.
- 25:11SPEAKER_01: Ben is that friend that is fun to poke.
- 25:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 25:15SPEAKER_01: And so he's right now listening to this and being aggravated at us.
- 25:19SPEAKER_02: One of my favorite things that Ben would do is back when we all played DD together.
- 25:25SPEAKER_02: I remember there was one night when I was going to be able to join DD, which I wasn't often able to do because I had little kids before everyone else did.
- 25:34SPEAKER_01: Dan got married when the rest of us were bachelors, and it was this weird thing.
- 25:37SPEAKER_01: We're like, Dan has a family.
- 25:39SPEAKER_01: Dan has a wife and kids.
- 25:41SPEAKER_02: So there was one week when I was going to be able to be there, and Ben was like, Great, we're going to get pizza.
- 25:46SPEAKER_02: And then you and all your roommates made plans, and you all had pizza, and then I had to cancel last minute, and Ben was like, Well, then we're not going to get pizza.
- 25:54SPEAKER_02: Because the rest of you all still wanted it, but Ben was like, Dan's not coming.
- 25:59SPEAKER_02: No pizza.
- 26:03SPEAKER_01: He is weird himself.
- 26:04SPEAKER_01: He's just a different genre of weird than us.
- 26:08SPEAKER_00: I think you just described like half the human race, Brandon.
- 26:12SPEAKER_02: So I think the episode that just went up two days ago at time of recording is the you and I newlywed game.
- 26:19SPEAKER_02: Correct.
- 26:19SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 26:19SPEAKER_02: In which we said that my favorite book was Dune.
- 26:22SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 26:22SPEAKER_02: And he texted us to say, I thought your favorite book was Le Miserab.
- 26:28SPEAKER_02: And that is absolutely one of my favorite books.
- 26:31SPEAKER_02: But Dune does edge it out.
- 26:33SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 26:34SPEAKER_00: Alrighty.
- 26:36SPEAKER_00: From Keegan Green, sorry if I'm saying it wrong, 1694.
- 26:41SPEAKER_00: I want the hour-long rant about the adding this Star Wars prequels.
- 26:45SPEAKER_00: As a millennial prequel lover, I want to hear that speech.
- 26:49SPEAKER_00: We do not have an hour, but do you have a small version of the rant?
- 26:53SPEAKER_00: That's how our podcast started.
- 26:54SPEAKER_00: Goodness.
- 26:55SPEAKER_00: Are you serious?
- 26:56SPEAKER_02: Like, you do not need to come to us to get a rant about the prequels.
- 27:00SPEAKER_02: Nobody our age liked them.
- 27:02SPEAKER_02: They are still bad.
- 27:03SPEAKER_02: They are still bad.
- 27:04SPEAKER_02: They have had a resurgence of popularity as people grew up with them.
- 27:11SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 27:12SPEAKER_02: But you can find reasons the prequels are bad anywhere on the internet.
- 27:18SPEAKER_02: Like that's not a minority opinion.
- 27:20SPEAKER_01: No.
- 27:21SPEAKER_01: I'm way more aggravated by the sequels being bad than the prequels.
- 27:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 27:25SPEAKER_01: Because the prequels we watched were like, these are kind of bad.
- 27:28SPEAKER_01: It destroyed our illusion of George Lucas as this great storyteller, but we kind of already knew.
- 27:34SPEAKER_01: It had been years we'd watched George Lucas do his thing.
- 27:38SPEAKER_01: And while all the prequels really did to us was make us say, okay, George has good ideas.
- 27:45SPEAKER_01: He doesn't know how to execute on them.
- 27:47SPEAKER_01: He doesn't have the team that will let him execute on them anymore.
- 27:51SPEAKER_01: You can still watch these and appreciate the narrative, but the movie making is just bad.
- 27:57SPEAKER_01: The sequels aggravate me because the filmmaking is good and the storytelling is bad.
- 28:02SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 28:03SPEAKER_02: The couplet that I always use is that the prequels are a really good story, poorly told, and the sequels are a terrible story, really well told.
- 28:13SPEAKER_02: Except for the third one where the third one where everything about it was bad.
- 28:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 28:17SPEAKER_01: So they kind of aggravate me because I feel like when you've got George Lucas, who's just like his own weirdo dude who's going to make his thing, is like, all right, this is the art you made.
- 28:26SPEAKER_01: I don't think you did a really good job with some of these things, but you know what?
- 28:29SPEAKER_01: You made your art.
- 28:30SPEAKER_01: It's yours, it's Star Wars.
- 28:32SPEAKER_01: I'll appreciate what I can of it.
- 28:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 28:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 28:36SPEAKER_02: Final closing note on this topic.
- 28:38SPEAKER_02: They were so poorly directed.
- 28:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 28:41SPEAKER_02: Everyone in that, like, it is a murderer's row of fantastic actors.
- 28:46SPEAKER_02: And they all, to a person, come across wooden and awkward.
- 28:53SPEAKER_02: One transcends it, and that is Obi-Wan.
- 28:56SPEAKER_02: Obi-Wan manages to pull it off.
- 28:58SPEAKER_01: Manages to transcend it.
- 28:59SPEAKER_01: He's the only actor that manages to take that material.
- 29:03SPEAKER_01: Even like Sam Jackson is so wooden.
- 29:06SPEAKER_01: Natalie Portman.
- 29:08SPEAKER_02: Hayden Christensen.
- 29:09SPEAKER_02: Watch something else that Hayden Christensen is in.
- 29:11SPEAKER_02: He is a really good actor.
- 29:13SPEAKER_02: They were directed very poorly in the prequels.
- 29:17SPEAKER_01: And so many scenes of just people walking and standing in a room and talking instead of like actually doing something and having a space adventure.
- 29:28SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
- 29:29SPEAKER_01: We can go on forever, but you can just watch that online.
- 29:31SPEAKER_01: There, there are people who've done seven-hour videos on the prequels and things.
- 29:35SPEAKER_01: I find the sequels more tragic and more interesting in their tragedy and more aggravating in the tragedy.
- 29:42SPEAKER_02: So Robert Jackson Bennett, yeah, friend of mine and wonderful author, his pitch to fix the prequels, and you know, everyone has their pitch to fix the prequels, and obviously there's a lot of things that need to be done.
- 29:56SPEAKER_02: But he said, you know, if Anakin starts off as a slave, why not keep him locked in a box so that he is always trapped inside this thing where he can't really move and he can't really see and he has to breathe through a ventilator, and you know, they let him out to do work, but then he goes back in the box.
- 30:13SPEAKER_02: And then the arc of the first three movies is him gaining his freedom and through his own hubris ending up back in a box again.
- 30:20SPEAKER_02: I love that idea.
- 30:21SPEAKER_01: That is clever.
- 30:22SPEAKER_01: That wouldn't fix them, though.
- 30:22SPEAKER_01: That's just it wouldn't fix everything, right?
- 30:25SPEAKER_01: But it is, I think, a fun starting place.
- 30:27SPEAKER_01: I think the way that you fix it is you don't start him off as a little kid.
- 30:30SPEAKER_01: They find him as a cocky space fighter, you know, who is on this planet, a group of freedom fighters, and the tragedy is that he becomes the thing the freedom fighters have to fight against.
- 30:40SPEAKER_01: And he's charismatic and interesting and kind of knows the force and is too old to take the training, but does it anyway.
- 30:47SPEAKER_01: And you know, Jake Lloyd did a great job as a child actor.
- 30:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 30:51SPEAKER_01: But you don't need a child actor.
- 30:53SPEAKER_01: You need a charismatic, interesting character who doesn't fit as a Jedi.
- 30:58SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 30:59SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 30:59SPEAKER_00: That's the mini ramp version.
- 31:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I suspect.
- 31:02SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 31:03SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 31:03SPEAKER_00: We got four minutes left.
- 31:04SPEAKER_00: Four minutes left.
- 31:05SPEAKER_00: We'll do these last ones then.
- 31:07SPEAKER_00: We did the trilogy of trilogies episodes, and a couple people left uh a few trilogies that they were surprised we never ranked.
- 31:13SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
- 31:14SPEAKER_00: That's good.
- 31:15SPEAKER_00: Good job.
- 31:15SPEAKER_00: What are they?
- 31:16SPEAKER_00: So, first one the Deadpool movies.
- 31:18SPEAKER_00: Have we seen all three Deadpool movies?
- 31:20SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I have seen all three Deadpool movies.
- 31:21SPEAKER_02: We did a whole episode about the three Deadpool movies.
- 31:23SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 31:24SPEAKER_02: And I do think that it was a big miss for us to not include them.
- 31:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because they're an excellent trilogy.
- 31:29SPEAKER_01: They are.
- 31:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:30SPEAKER_01: Let me know.
- 31:30SPEAKER_02: They hold together as a trilogy pretty well.
- 31:32SPEAKER_01: I don't think that it ends as well.
- 31:35SPEAKER_01: The third one is strong.
- 31:36SPEAKER_01: I really like the third one, but it doesn't feel like an entry in the same trilogy like one and two do.
- 31:42SPEAKER_01: And that's really not their fault because Fox got bought and they had to find some way to deal with that.
- 31:47SPEAKER_01: And it's an excellent movie, but two is the pinnacle.
- 31:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:50SPEAKER_01: One is really good.
- 31:51SPEAKER_01: I'll give it A tier because it's a trilogy.
- 31:53SPEAKER_01: The third one doesn't feel like it belongs, even though it's a really good film.
- 31:58SPEAKER_02: I will knock it down to a B or maybe even a C.
- 32:02SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 32:03SPEAKER_02: Because the wonderful supporting cast of one and two doesn't carry over at all into three.
- 32:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, except for a cameo by yeah.
- 32:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah, brief cameo, but anyway.
- 32:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 32:16SPEAKER_01: Very good supporting cast.
- 32:17SPEAKER_01: And it's weird because it is really fun.
- 32:20SPEAKER_01: It's really fun, but it doesn't have the heart to it that one and two do.
- 32:24SPEAKER_01: It does for Wolverine, just not for Deadpool.
- 32:27SPEAKER_01: And I'm okay with that sound.
- 32:29SPEAKER_01: But it feels like its own.
- 32:31SPEAKER_01: If we get an actual Deadpool 3, that's what I want.
- 32:34SPEAKER_01: An actual Deadpool 3 with Deadpool and Wolverine being a side story, then we have a true trilogy.
- 32:39SPEAKER_01: Maybe it can be up to ass.
- 32:40SPEAKER_00: That could be awesome.
- 32:41SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 32:42SPEAKER_00: There you go for that one.
- 32:43SPEAKER_00: Kung Fu Panda was one I saw commonly requested.
- 32:46SPEAKER_00: Have you seen all three?
- 32:47SPEAKER_00: I have seen all three.
- 32:48SPEAKER_00: I don't think I've seen three.
- 32:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah, now there's four.
- 32:52SPEAKER_00: The original three.
- 32:52SPEAKER_00: They were meant to be a trilogy.
- 32:54SPEAKER_02: See, I never think of it as a trilogy because that one always feels to me like one movie that they spent years on and it's amazing.
- 33:04SPEAKER_02: And then, oh no, this is really popular.
- 33:06SPEAKER_02: Let's throw some other ones together.
- 33:08SPEAKER_01: I don't think they're not thrown together, but they're not as good.
- 33:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 33:13SPEAKER_01: So as a series, like number one is great.
- 33:16SPEAKER_02: Number one is fantastic.
- 33:18SPEAKER_01: But as a trilogy, B.
- 33:21SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's fair.
- 33:23SPEAKER_00: Any others?
- 33:24SPEAKER_00: Yes, we can go through them.
- 33:25SPEAKER_00: Hunger Games.
- 33:26SPEAKER_00: If it counts.
- 33:27SPEAKER_00: It is four movies.
- 33:28SPEAKER_02: I have never seen a Hunger Games movie or read the books.
- 33:31SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 33:32SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 33:32SPEAKER_00: And I've only seen and read the first.
- 33:34SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 33:34SPEAKER_02: There you go.
- 33:35SPEAKER_02: We can skip past Hunger Games.
- 33:37SPEAKER_02: People should read the Hunger Games.
- 33:39SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 33:39SPEAKER_02: Because they're fantastic books.
- 33:41SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 33:41SPEAKER_00: If we count this one, another one.
- 33:43SPEAKER_00: Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, Voyage Home.
- 33:46SPEAKER_00: Cheating.
- 33:47SPEAKER_02: Nonsense.
- 33:48SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 33:48SPEAKER_02: Nonsense.
- 33:49SPEAKER_02: You can't say two, three, and four are a trilogy.
- 33:52SPEAKER_02: That doesn't even make sense.
- 33:53SPEAKER_00: They're a substory, but yeah.
- 33:56SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 33:57SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 33:57SPEAKER_00: Cheating.
- 33:58SPEAKER_00: Cheating.
- 33:58SPEAKER_00: Cheating.
- 33:59SPEAKER_00: The Tom Holland Spider-Man's.
- 34:00SPEAKER_00: That was one that was also requested.
- 34:02SPEAKER_01: Oh.
- 34:03SPEAKER_01: Another one where the third one feels very odd compared to the other two.
- 34:06SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 34:07SPEAKER_02: That's actually a really good comparison to Deadpool and Wolverine.
- 34:11SPEAKER_02: Because it's here's, you know, a really good personal story, a follow-up good personal story, and let's blow the budget on three and make it so big that it doesn't feel like it's part of a piece anymore.
- 34:24SPEAKER_01: So I really like three.
- 34:24SPEAKER_01: All three of them are good.
- 34:26SPEAKER_01: A tier, same reasons as Deadpool.
- 34:28SPEAKER_01: I think in general, this might be controversial.
- 34:30SPEAKER_01: The Deadpool movies consistently are just a tad better.
- 34:33SPEAKER_01: They just do more interesting things.
- 34:35SPEAKER_01: They are.
- 34:36SPEAKER_01: But the Spider-Man movies are solid.
- 34:38SPEAKER_01: So A tier maybe top of the B tier.
- 34:41SPEAKER_01: I really like two.
- 34:43SPEAKER_02: I understand a lot of people don't like two as much, but I'm also the weirdo who thought three was way too long and slow.
- 34:51SPEAKER_01: But there's the question for me do I think the Sam Raimi trilogy is better than the Tom Holland trilogy?
- 34:56SPEAKER_01: I am on record as saying I think Tom Holland is a better Spider-Man.
- 35:01SPEAKER_01: Even though people love Toby, the villains are better in the Sam Raimi one.
- 35:07SPEAKER_01: Not surprising with Sam Raimi being so good with that side of storytelling.
- 35:10SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 35:11SPEAKER_01: So the villains are better.
- 35:12SPEAKER_01: Tom Holland's a better Spider-Man.
- 35:14SPEAKER_01: Vulture's not bad, though, as a villain.
- 35:16SPEAKER_01: Vulture is a pretty good villain.
- 35:17SPEAKER_01: Mysterio does a decent job.
- 35:19SPEAKER_01: It's not like it has terrible villains.
- 35:21SPEAKER_01: But, you know, Spider-Man 2 with Doc Ock.
- 35:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 35:25SPEAKER_02: It's a great top three all-time superhero movie.
- 35:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 35:29SPEAKER_01: It's just it's so hard for me to get over how bad MJ is cast in those.
- 35:34SPEAKER_02: And which is weird because Kirsten Dunce is so good in so many things, but she doesn't really work as MJ.
- 35:41SPEAKER_01: She really doesn't.
- 35:42SPEAKER_01: And something about Toby, I love Toby.
- 35:45SPEAKER_01: He just doesn't feel like Spider-Man to me.
- 35:48SPEAKER_01: And so I'm going to give it to the Sam Raimi trilogy.
- 35:53SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 35:53SPEAKER_01: I think I put it in B, and I think I said it was a tragedy at the time.
- 35:57SPEAKER_01: I think it is better, so I may have to bump it up to an A.
- 36:01SPEAKER_01: It's just the third one is super weak.
- 36:03SPEAKER_01: The third one is super weak.
- 36:04SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
- 36:06SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 36:06SPEAKER_02: Has there been a really good Mary Jane on film?
- 36:10SPEAKER_02: Like Zendaya's character, wonderful.
- 36:12SPEAKER_02: She's a fantastic actor.
- 36:13SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but she's not MJ.
- 36:14SPEAKER_02: She's not MJ.
- 36:15SPEAKER_02: She's an alternate universe, MJ, which is fine.
- 36:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 36:18SPEAKER_02: And Kirsten Dunst, again, fantastic actor.
- 36:21SPEAKER_02: Didn't really work as MJ.
- 36:23SPEAKER_02: It's it was the Garfield series, didn't even try.
- 36:26SPEAKER_02: They used Gwen Stacy instead.
- 36:28SPEAKER_02: I don't know if we've ever gotten a good live action, Mary Jane.
- 36:31SPEAKER_00: No.
- 36:31SPEAKER_00: None that come to mind, no.
- 36:32SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 36:33SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 36:34SPEAKER_00: Last but not least, just a quick Brandon shoulder check.
- 36:37SPEAKER_00: How are you feeling?
- 36:38SPEAKER_01: Pretty good.
- 36:38SPEAKER_01: So my range of motion is completely back.
- 36:42SPEAKER_01: It aches if I do signings.
- 36:44SPEAKER_01: And I can't quite reach behind my back the way I used to.
- 36:47SPEAKER_01: So that one I'm still doing exercises on.
- 36:50SPEAKER_01: But you can see I can go all the way back like I used to.
- 36:53SPEAKER_01: And so I call it recovered except for an occasional ache, and that one like this motion is hard for me.
- 37:01SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you noticed, but when you started stretching your shoulder, Ollie and I both immediately started stretching our shoulders.
- 37:08SPEAKER_02: That seems very natural.
- 37:09SPEAKER_01: The question is Communal Yon at home, did Ben stretch?