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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. Over the past seven months or so, one
- 0:07Speaker 1: of the questions I keep getting asked has to do
- 0:10Speaker 1: with the congressional investigation and whether I think it's legit
- 0:14Speaker 1: or fugazi. And unfortunately, I think it's fugazi. I've said
- 0:20Speaker 1: that from the very beginning, that it was all theatrics
- 0:23Speaker 1: and kayfabe, and it remains so. Do you really think
- 0:28Speaker 1: that James Comer... really wants to get to the bottom
- 0:31Speaker 1: of what happened here? Or do you think he's trying
- 0:33Speaker 1: to run cover for the people that don't want this
- 0:36Speaker 1: investigation to progress? I mean, look, we should definitely hear
- 0:41Speaker 1: from Bill Clinton and we should definitely hear from Hillary Clinton.
- 0:45Speaker 1: I don't have any beef with that whatsoever. As you know,
- 0:49Speaker 1: I think that both of them were enabling Jeffrey Epstein
- 0:52Speaker 1: for years. But there's no doubt that it was a
- 0:55Speaker 1: dog and pony show during the deposition of both Hillary
- 0:59Speaker 1: and Bill Clinton. And the fact that it wasn't public
- 1:02Speaker 1: is a joke. All of these should have been public.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Bill Barr, Alex Acosta, Hillary Clinton, Les Wexner, Bill Clinton.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Enough is enough. But it's not about getting to justice.
- 1:16Speaker 1: That's what it comes down to when we're talking about
- 1:18Speaker 1: the congressional investigation. Not Massey, not Ro Khanna, not the
- 1:22Speaker 1: discharge petition, but the investigation being led by Comer and
- 1:27Speaker 1: his little proxy, Anna Paulina Luna. Make no mistake, they
- 1:31Speaker 1: have one goal. Laying cover down for the administration. That's it.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Not about justice. Not about the survivors. Certainly not about
- 1:40Speaker 1: the survivors. I mean, look at what Ana Paulina Luna said. Oh,
- 1:43Speaker 1: these girls are all traffickers. A lot of these women
- 1:47Speaker 1: were turned into traffickers. Come on, we know the truth.
- 1:51Speaker 1: And so did she. But the idea was to cause
- 1:53Speaker 1: confusion instead of just being very clear and saying that Nadia, Leslie,
- 1:58Speaker 1: Sarah Kellen Vickers, and Adriana Ross were the women she
- 2:02Speaker 1: was talking about, she was very vague and opaque. Because
- 2:06Speaker 1: she knew all she had to do was throw a
- 2:08Speaker 1: little red meat out there, and all of the buffoons
- 2:12Speaker 1: would run with it. And boy, they sure did. So today,
- 2:17Speaker 1: we have an article from Politico, and the headline. Serious
- 2:22Speaker 1: Investigation or Clown Show? Clinton's Closed Testimony on Epstein Leave
- 2:27Speaker 1: Room for Disagreement? And again, we haven't seen the transcripts,
- 2:31Speaker 1: so we're only basing what we're talking about on what
- 2:33Speaker 1: other people told us. So until we get the transcripts
- 2:37Speaker 1: and the video, I'm not going to get launched into
- 2:39Speaker 1: orbit one way or the other. This article was authored
- 2:43Speaker 1: by Maya Kaufman, Jillia Nagisi, and Haley Fuchs. As House
- 2:50Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats embarked on two days of depositions with
- 2:54Speaker 1: Bill and Hillary Clinton, both sides professed a seriousness. of
- 2:58Speaker 1: purpose to find answers that could aid their investigation into
- 3:02Speaker 1: convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Well, Comer and his friends,
- 3:06Speaker 1: if they were serious, would have been at the Les
- 3:08Speaker 1: Wexner deposition. There is no good reason for them not
- 3:12Speaker 1: to be there. And I'm sorry, but it's the truth.
- 3:17Speaker 1: This committee is playing serious games. And the funniest thing is,
- 3:21Speaker 1: they really stepped on their own dick. What do I
- 3:25Speaker 1: mean by that? Well, they've opened the door now. For
- 3:28Speaker 1: Donald Trump to be deposed. Wasn't Comer supposed to protect
- 3:32Speaker 1: Donald Trump? And can you imagine how steamed up. El
- 3:37Speaker 1: Donaldo is going to be. When he has to get
- 3:40Speaker 1: in that chair at some point. Because it's coming. Maybe
- 3:42Speaker 1: not while he's in office. But it's coming. And he
- 3:45Speaker 1: can thank Mr. Comer. And his pal Luna. They left
- 3:53Speaker 1: with completely different versions. Of what transpired. Behind closed doors.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Of course they did. And that's why I'm telling all
- 3:59Speaker 1: of you to reserve your judgment. Wait until we see
- 4:02Speaker 1: the transcripts. Because you know both sides are playing loose
- 4:05Speaker 1: with the truth. Both sides want to pitch a narrative.
- 4:08Speaker 1: And that's how it works. So that's why I wait
- 4:10Speaker 1: to see the actual transcript or the actual documentation that
- 4:14Speaker 1: we're being told about. Unfortunately, it's hard to trust anybody
- 4:18Speaker 1: when they're telling you anything these days. Especially when it
- 4:21Speaker 1: comes to such a politically charged issue as this one.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Republicans said President Donald Trump was now exonerated. Democrats said
- 4:31Speaker 1: Trump was no such thing and called the event an
- 4:34Speaker 1: unserious clown show. And amid dueling news conferences and social
- 4:38Speaker 1: media posts throughout Thursday and Friday, the public is now
- 4:41Speaker 1: left with starkly divergent narratives in a congressional probe that
- 4:45Speaker 1: shows few signs of ending anytime soon. This is what
- 4:49Speaker 1: I warned of. Guys, look, just be very careful. Don't
- 4:54Speaker 1: give in to your inner base emotions. I know it's
- 4:57Speaker 1: easy to do that, especially here. You want to throttle
- 5:01Speaker 1: everybody involved, right? All these people are absolutely disgusting and vile.
- 5:06Speaker 1: But what they're relying on is people retreating into their
- 5:10Speaker 1: bunker and making this a political issue. It is not. Now,
- 5:14Speaker 1: of course, politics are involved. But there is plenty of
- 5:18Speaker 1: scumbaggery to go around. But for me, the buck stops
- 5:21Speaker 1: with the guy upstairs. If you're the boss, the president,
- 5:25Speaker 1: the buck stops with you. And that's under the best
- 5:27Speaker 1: circumstances possible, right? Under these circumstances, where Trump is named
- 5:33Speaker 1: in the files more than anyone besides Ghislaine and Jeffrey, basically. Yeah,
- 5:38Speaker 1: probably somebody that has to answer some questions. And probably
- 5:42Speaker 1: somebody that I'm not going to trust when they're telling
- 5:44Speaker 1: me to move on. Now, that might work for your base.
- 5:48Speaker 1: That might work for, you know, the cat turds of
- 5:50Speaker 1: the world. But the rest of us, we're not going anywhere.
- 5:55Speaker 1: And we want answers. I don't care how many wars
- 5:57Speaker 1: you crack off either, by the way. I refuse to
- 6:00Speaker 1: get sidetracked. We are going to talk about this topic,
- 6:04Speaker 1: and we're going to keep demanding justice and ramifications for
- 6:07Speaker 1: the people that were involved. And there is no shiny
- 6:10Speaker 1: object on this planet that's going to make us deviate
- 6:14Speaker 1: from this course. The split screen underscores the politically fraught
- 6:19Speaker 1: nature of the House investigation, which is unfolding as the
- 6:23Speaker 1: electorate clamors for someone to be held accountable for for
- 6:26Speaker 1: the years that the sex trafficking operation of Epstein and
- 6:30Speaker 1: his co-conspirator, Glenn Maxwell, went unchecked. Oh, it was checked.
- 6:35Speaker 1: They just ignored it. They knew about it. They didn't care.
- 6:39Speaker 1: And I remember trying to tell people about this years ago,
- 6:42Speaker 1: and they all looked at me like I was fucking
- 6:43Speaker 1: Alex Jones. Homie, I'm not telling you that there's skin-changing aliens.
- 6:48Speaker 1: I'm telling you that the people that are lording over
- 6:51Speaker 1: you are corrupt. And guess what? They are. And now
- 6:55Speaker 1: the curtain's been pulled back and everybody can see in
- 6:58Speaker 1: the room. The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee spent
- 7:04Speaker 1: hours grilling both Clintons, the former Secretary of State on
- 7:08Speaker 1: Thursday and the former President on Friday, about Epstein and Maxwell,
- 7:13Speaker 1: in compliance with a pair of subpoenas issued by the
- 7:15Speaker 1: panel as part of its long-running Epstein investigation. Republican and
- 7:20Speaker 1: Democratic committee members took turns chiding each other for their
- 7:24Speaker 1: characterization of the Clinton's testimony, while also selectively leaking comments
- 7:29Speaker 1: from inside the room to support their respective party lines.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Not a word about the survivors. Not a word about
- 7:38Speaker 1: me and you. All about their kayfabe wrestling bullshit. All
- 7:42Speaker 1: of them. It's just a big joke to them. Just
- 7:45Speaker 1: another political battle. While I assure you, to the people
- 7:49Speaker 1: who were harmed, it's a lot more than that. And
- 7:51Speaker 1: to those of us who are watching... It's a lot
- 7:54Speaker 1: more than that to us too. And I am sick
- 7:58Speaker 1: and tired of these elected officials and their WWE wrestling-like behavior. Okay?
- 8:06Speaker 1: Stop with the bullshit. None of you care. None of
- 8:09Speaker 1: you want justice. All you want is a gotcha moment.
- 8:13Speaker 1: The Republicans, all they cared about was getting Hillary Clinton
- 8:16Speaker 1: and Bill Clinton to sit in front of them. And
- 8:19Speaker 1: now the Democrats, of course, what they want, the golden goose,
- 8:23Speaker 1: is Donald Trump. And look, I get it. I understand.
- 8:26Speaker 1: But if that's your only goal and you have tunnel
- 8:28Speaker 1: vision and that's all you think this is about, you're wrong.
- 8:32Speaker 1: And you're causing big problems because the more political theater
- 8:35Speaker 1: that we see here, the more political theater that they
- 8:38Speaker 1: engage in, the larger the divide becomes between the populace.
- 8:43Speaker 1: And that's what they want. They don't want us together.
- 8:46Speaker 1: The pitchforks and the torches, that is the last thing
- 8:49Speaker 1: they want. They want us divided, they want us arguing,
- 8:53Speaker 1: and they want us focused on anything but the Epstein files.
- 8:57Speaker 1: The question is, are you going to grant them their wish?
- 9:00Speaker 1: Don't fall for the BS. Stay on target, especially right now.
- 9:04Speaker 1: They're going to attempt to use your emotions against you.
- 9:07Speaker 1: And with the heightened situation around the world, they're going
- 9:10Speaker 1: to do everything they can to steer the narrative away
- 9:13Speaker 1: from Epstein and towards the new shiny object. Oversight Chair
- 9:20Speaker 1: James Comer said that Bill Clinton told the committee that
- 9:23Speaker 1: Trump never said anything to me to make me think
- 9:25Speaker 1: he was involved with Epstein and left Republicans confident there
- 9:29Speaker 1: was no reason now to depose the president. Wait, so
- 9:33Speaker 1: Bill Clinton is the cosigner? And that's good enough for
- 9:36Speaker 1: James Comer? Didn't the Republicans tell us for years about
- 9:40Speaker 1: the Clintons and how they're going to lock them up?
- 9:42Speaker 1: But now all of a sudden, Bill Clinton's the paragon
- 9:45Speaker 1: of virtue and somebody we should listen to? Yeah, okay,
- 9:49Speaker 1: I guess. From all the evidence I've seen, he's been
- 9:55Speaker 1: exonerated for a long time, Comer said of Trump during
- 9:59Speaker 1: a news conference on Friday. Yeah, they're real serious about
- 10:02Speaker 1: an investigation here. Exonerated by Bill Clinton. In other news,
- 10:06Speaker 1: Michael Myers has been exonerated by Jason. Representative Robert Garcia
- 10:13Speaker 1: of California, the top Democrat on the committee, said repeatedly
- 10:17Speaker 1: the former president's deposition Friday sets a precedent for Trump
- 10:20Speaker 1: to testify under oath. and that Comer's remarks were not
- 10:24Speaker 1: an accurate description of Bill Clinton's testimony. Yo, I told
- 10:28Speaker 1: you that this was the plan. The only reason they
- 10:31Speaker 1: were willing to throw the Clintons under the bus is
- 10:33Speaker 1: because they want Trump that bad. And some of the
- 10:36Speaker 1: younger members of the Democratic Party, namely the Democratic Socialists,
- 10:40Speaker 1: they don't care about the old guard. So they're more
- 10:43Speaker 1: than willing to throw the Clintons out the door if
- 10:46Speaker 1: that means that Donald Trump is going to be in
- 10:49Speaker 1: the hot seat at some point. So it's give and take, right?
- 10:54Speaker 1: They thought that the risk was worth the reward. Democrats
- 10:59Speaker 1: said Bill Clinton's deposition raised additional questions about Trump and
- 11:03Speaker 1: Epstein's falling out. Trump has long said that he kicked
- 11:07Speaker 1: Epstein out of his club, Mar-a-Lago in Florida, years before
- 11:10Speaker 1: Epstein's 2019 arrest on sex trafficking charges. Because he stole
- 11:15Speaker 1: people that work for me, while the White House has
- 11:17Speaker 1: said that Epstein was banned for being a creep. We've
- 11:20Speaker 1: heard like nine different stories. Look, they had a falling
- 11:23Speaker 1: out for sure. What that falling out was, that is
- 11:27Speaker 1: still up for debate. Neither of the Clintons have ever
- 11:31Speaker 1: been accused of misconduct in connection with Epstein, nor has Trump.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Bill Clinton has maintained that he was acquaintance of Epstein
- 11:39Speaker 1: and traveled on his plane several times internationally while Secret
- 11:43Speaker 1: Service details were present, but stopped communicating with him at
- 11:46Speaker 1: least a decade before his arrest in 2019 on federal
- 11:50Speaker 1: sex trafficking charges. Behind closed doors, Bill Clinton testified that
- 11:55Speaker 1: Trump told him he and Epstein had great times together,
- 11:58Speaker 1: according to a person in the room who was granted
- 12:01Speaker 1: anonymity to describe the private deposition. Yo, people don't want
- 12:05Speaker 1: to realize it, but it's true. Bill Clinton and Donald
- 12:08Speaker 1: Trump were friends. Donald Trump was a New York liberal
- 12:13Speaker 1: for all these years leading up to 2016. Then he
- 12:18Speaker 1: flipped the script, became a Republican, and all of a
- 12:20Speaker 1: sudden the Clintons aren't his friends anymore. You want to
- 12:23Speaker 1: talk about kayfabe? This is it. Especially considering the way
- 12:27Speaker 1: Donald Trump's talking about Clinton now. Oh, I'm sad he's
- 12:30Speaker 1: being deposed, this, that, the other thing. The mask certainly slipped.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Donald Trump was running around in the same circles as
- 12:38Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, with the same scumbags. Democratic Representative Maxwell Frost
- 12:44Speaker 1: said Bill Clinton testified that Trump told him the falling
- 12:48Speaker 1: out with Epstein was over a land dispute. He's been
- 12:51Speaker 1: caught in multiple lies as it relates to his relationship
- 12:53Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein, Frost said, referring to Trump. I got
- 12:57Speaker 1: bad news for Mr. Frost. Same goes for Bill Clinton.
- 13:02Speaker 1: And just from the opening statement alone, he perjured himself.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Now again, I'm not going to go too deep because
- 13:08Speaker 1: I don't have the transcript. But let's not act like
- 13:11Speaker 1: this is one-way traffic. Both of these dudes are lying
- 13:14Speaker 1: through their teeth about their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Stop
- 13:19Speaker 1: defending them. Bill Clinton's office did not immediately return a
- 13:25Speaker 1: request for comment. The White House referred back to an
- 13:28Speaker 1: earlier statement from Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt, who said the
- 13:31Speaker 1: president has always remained consistent in that he kicked Jeffrey
- 13:35Speaker 1: Epstein out of his club, Mar-a-Lago, because frankly Jeffrey Epstein
- 13:39Speaker 1: was a creep. Well, somebody's lying. And considering both of
- 13:45Speaker 1: these dudes are notorious liars, I have no idea which
- 13:48Speaker 1: one it is, but I can tell you this much.
- 13:51Speaker 1: Their lips are moving, so lies are coming out. The
- 13:55Speaker 1: Republican-led committee is expected to release videos of the proceeding
- 13:58Speaker 1: as soon as this weekend. Democrats on the committee requested full,
- 14:03Speaker 1: unedited versions to be made public, with each side promising
- 14:06Speaker 1: their version of events will then be vindicated. My guess
- 14:09Speaker 1: is somewhere in the middle. Neither side cares about you,
- 14:13Speaker 1: both sides think you're stupid, and they're going to try
- 14:16Speaker 1: and dogwalk you every opportunity they get. Republicans are under
- 14:21Speaker 1: increasing pressure to have something to show for their investigation
- 14:24Speaker 1: and are eager to find a win in the Clinton's testimony. Well,
- 14:28Speaker 1: maybe if they showed up to ask questions of Les Wexner,
- 14:31Speaker 1: they would have had something, but they were too busy
- 14:33Speaker 1: that day. Way too busy. Comer said Friday his panel
- 14:40Speaker 1: will call in additional witnesses as part of the ongoing probe,
- 14:43Speaker 1: saying lawmakers had refrained from naming any of these individuals
- 14:47Speaker 1: before the Clinton's deposition. He suggested names could be announced
- 14:51Speaker 1: before the deposition of the co-executors of Epstein's estate, which
- 14:55Speaker 1: will take place in the coming weeks. Well, those are
- 14:58Speaker 1: going to be good ones. But the problem is, Comer's involved,
- 15:03Speaker 1: and his band of merry morons. So they're going to
- 15:06Speaker 1: run cover, obviously. They don't care about getting to the
- 15:08Speaker 1: bottom of it. They don't even think that the survivors
- 15:11Speaker 1: were abused. According to Luna, the survivors are traffickers themselves.
- 15:16Speaker 1: This is the kind of bullshit we have to navigate,
- 15:18Speaker 1: and it's all by design. I didn't want to do
- 15:23Speaker 1: anything that jeopardized losing them, he told reporters Friday, referring
- 15:27Speaker 1: to the Clintons, as lawmakers left the deposition site in Chappaqua.
- 15:32Speaker 1: It also appeared likely the panel would soon subpoena Commerce
- 15:35Speaker 1: Secretary Howard Nutlick, I mean, Lutnick, who has faced calls
- 15:39Speaker 1: to resign over revelations in the Justice Department's material about
- 15:43Speaker 1: the extent of his relationship with Epstein. Representative Nancy Mace
- 15:47Speaker 1: of South Carolina, a Republican on the oversight panel, said
- 15:51Speaker 1: she was on board. Well, yeah, everyone should be on board.
- 15:55Speaker 1: Lutnik's an absolute tool. And when all of this started
- 15:59Speaker 1: to go down with Lutnik, I cannot tell you how
- 16:02Speaker 1: many of my ex-co-workers from Cantor hit me up. Yo, Bobby,
- 16:06Speaker 1: you see this shit? Is Lutnik in hiding yet? When
- 16:09Speaker 1: they gonna get him? He still owes me my IPO shares.
- 16:12Speaker 1: A whole bunch of shit. And that's just from Cantor's
- 16:15Speaker 1: gaming division. Never mind actual Cantor Fitzgerald, Lutnick recently acknowledged
- 16:21Speaker 1: that he visited Epstein's Island in 2012 with his family
- 16:25Speaker 1: after he previously claimed their relationship ended before Epstein was
- 16:29Speaker 1: convicted in 2008 of soliciting a prostitute. Lutnick has not
- 16:33Speaker 1: been accused of wrongdoing in connection with Epstein's crimes. We
- 16:38Speaker 1: have a lot of questions about anyone who spent time
- 16:40Speaker 1: with Epstein post-conviction, Comer told reporters when asked about calling
- 16:44Speaker 1: in Lutnick to testify. Don't worry, they'll call him in
- 16:47Speaker 1: and then they'll exonerate him too. And this whole dog
- 16:50Speaker 1: and pony show that this congressional committee is engaging in
- 16:54Speaker 1: is embarrassing, it's disgusting, and it's getting in the way
- 16:58Speaker 1: of real justice occurring. But then again, isn't that the goal?
- 17:03Speaker 1: To try and confuse people, to try and slow things down,
- 17:06Speaker 1: and to try and make everything go away. They were
- 17:09Speaker 1: just waiting for a new disaster. The stuff with ICE
- 17:12Speaker 1: didn't do it. All the other stuff that they tried
- 17:15Speaker 1: to interject didn't do it. So now we have a war.
- 17:19Speaker 1: And they hope that because of this war, everybody's going
- 17:22Speaker 1: to be focused on that. Well, that's probably true. A
- 17:25Speaker 1: lot of people will be. But not me. We're going
- 17:28Speaker 1: to be right here, swimming through all this muck, looking
- 17:32Speaker 1: for that clarity. All right, folks, that's going to do
- 17:35Speaker 1: it for this one. All the information that goes with
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