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NFC EAST: WHO OWNS THE EAST? · How We 1st Met & Marriage

• JB: like to welcome everybody to another episode of Scorch Talk with JB inside the barbershop. And I'm your host, J B. And today I have three special guests. First guest I got in the house is Troy. Next guess I got is AK Motown. Motown: Sup. Sup. K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: We gotta have a cowboy. Got my dog Keat, a K Smooth. Good fellas. K.Smooth: Whoa. Is that what's up, did? Thank you, bruh. I appreciate that. Motown: What's happening, Jay? Thanks for having me, Troy: Yo JB: All right, inter Are you welcome? We're welcome. So we have a little bit of talk. We're gonna talk about the Saints quarterback situation. We talk a little bit about the NFC East. And also we're gonna do a little talk and a little MBA about LeBron. Of course you gotta throw him in out So that being said, I wanna go ahead I wanna go ahead and say Motown: Thank JB: thank you to my sponsor. about New Orleans quarterback situation with Tyler. let's start with you, Troy. you think Tyler is the present and the future? What's your thoughts on his situation? Motown: Thank you. K.Smooth: Yeah. Troy: I'ma say the the present. So we just gotta see how he gonna be, you know. Begin of the season, see it what K.Smooth: Even yeah. Motown: . Troy: he gonna do. If he do well, he might. Might. Never know. So we just gotta wait till the season Motown: Okay. Troy: starts. JB: Yeah, I I agree with you. I think I know he had a good second in the second part of the season, but I want to see a full season. No excuses now. No, all he you got everybody healthy. Got some nice rookie with him, so I wanna see what he does. What about you, E? What's your thoughts on it? Motown: My personal opinion on Shook is we can't really say right now because it's too early. You got a new offensive coordinator over there that's giving them the plays. So just give them a little time. If you have a full season, I think this week of year you can evaluate them after the end of season. But just give them a chance. I can't say present. or future, just gotta give him a chance right now. JB: Right at the moment. Right, right. So far they look like he's having a good training camp so far. So what's your thoughts on that, Smooth? K.Smooth: man, I won't say the future. Like like T said, I say JB: Okay. K.Smooth: the as of right now, you know, the present. 'Cause you know, he is older too. So but like E said, you give him another four year. 'Cause he looked like he got potential. You think what I'm saying? So yeah, me he's a good quarterback. JB: Well, K.Smooth: I didn't think he was gonna be that good at first. He shot me, you know what I'm saying? So given with the talent that they have now, I mean, two or three years, who knows? You know. Who knows? So JB: Right. I agree with you. Yeah, I agree 'cause I you know how they kept showing him throwing the ball into the dirt, in the NFL combine. K.Smooth: yeah yeah. I remember that. JB: I was I was like, damn man, this I don't know about this dude, man. at first K.Smooth: Okay. JB: I was a fan of Rat or Rattler, but again, Tyler came through I he finished I think five and four at the end of was it five and four or something like that or five and six. K.Smooth: Mm-hmm. JB: it's one of those might be wrong, but I think I know he ended with as one of the the best rookie quarterbacks over Troy Boy K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: Shador. You don't want to admit it, but it's all good. Motown: But K.Smooth: Yeah. Motown: let's keep it in perspective now, you know, when he started playing pretty good, he had a little playing time behind under his belt, but the teams that he was facing at the time, you know, they weren't really playing for anything. They started us out. or they weren't playing for anything. So he was playing against some teams that wasn't really battling for anything Troy: Yeah. Motown: too much. So let's keep it up and step. That's why I say right now, we can't really say anything, give him a chance, give him a full season. That's why I can't say the present or not because he might not make the whole season and then Rattlers come in and we'll forget about him. You know what I'm saying? So just give him a full season on his belt and see what he look like. K.Smooth: Yeah, but when I seen about when I JB: I agree. That's all we want to see. K.Smooth: seen about Rattler, Rattler ain't looking too hot himself right now. You know what I'm saying? I like Rattler too, but again, when he when Riley did play, he wasn't playing with the full, you know, T, JB: Yeah. K.Smooth: you know what I'm saying? So he couldn't really evaluate it that much on not playing with everybody. So but right now the pre season he struggled a little bit the first game, so maybe he'd do better next game, so but I think yeah. You know. JB: So what do y'all think they're missing besides quarterback play? What do y'all think they're missing to put them to put them in like contention? In other words, to come out the NFC south K.Smooth: Mm. JB: or you know just to make that jump. K.Smooth: Mm. Motown: think they're a young team right now. I'm speaking from coaching on down. they can catch us by surprise and have a good season. But from what we've seen, what they have already and what they're putting together, I can't see them jumping too far. I mean, I really can't. I mean, as far as channel-wise too, you gotta think JB: Yeah. Motown: when you match them up in the NLC, how do we match them up against the Panthers and the Falcons? and the Buccaneers, how they match up, in terms of and experience to get victories. JB: My thing with but as far as quarter as far as that to me Falcons still got a question mark on who's gonna start as quarterback. Troy: Yeah, quarterback, yeah. JB: That's my thing with them. That's why I got them. I got them finishing last. I got to me Bucks still a team to beat. And also I think I wanna I I put Carolina second because what they did last year, they went to the playoffs. And I got respect on what the quarterback name is. K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: not not talking Motown: Boo. Troy: Baker. Baker. JB: about Troy: no, no, no, Bright. What that Motown: Right? Troy: boy name is. JB: Yeah. I put I got pushed for his yeah, young. 'Cause you know the season before last he went down. He he kinda like he almost quit or they gave up on him. But he had a decent season last year, so I got him from his my opinion. K.Smooth: Yeah, you got a better coach. He got a better coach. He got a better coach. That's what that's JB: Yeah. K.Smooth: what I think. You know, and yeah, like him play. I think a lot of number one is too. Motown: So you stand at Tampa, JB: Right. Motown: you stand Tampa and Tampa and North Carolina are ahead of, I mean Tampa and the Saints are ahead of Atlanta, you K.Smooth: Yeah. Motown: put nine of last. JB: Yeah. I got I gotta land the last. 'Cause I don't I don't think I don't think that situation. K.Smooth: Yeah. Very well. JB: and I I'm not a fan I'm not a fan of Tua. I like I said, K.Smooth: I'm not eating. JB: I I don't even know if he knows what the down Falcons volume discussions he have. So I'm not sure if he's gonna finish the season. So that's my thing, that's the only question mark I got for Falcons, but you K.Smooth: Right. One case looked like he was getting a bit here. JB: say it again. K.Smooth: Yeah. Well. Motown: Because I do believe that they're more talented than a couple other teams overall. I K.Smooth: He was scared to get him. JB: Want to filter? Motown: think they have the talent. K.Smooth: So he don't even know. He don't you scared to take that hard he just does. JB: Mm-hmm. K.Smooth: You what I'm saying? But I don't think Atlanta gotta like two of their players, one suspended, one hurt on defense, JB: I mean K.Smooth: yeah, they they're not looking too good right now. The quarterback is still a question. I think Phoenix is better than two of. So and Steven Kevin Safanski ain't no good quarterback too. You call him a guard quarterback rule, good rule. But that's because he had like twelve twelve, thirteen quarterbacks and none of them really did good of a big major. So I don't I don't think JB: You went in and Troy: I'm about to tell you, I think I think JB: I was. K.Smooth: they do no good. Troy: Stevansky, the coach, he was good when he first came out, but then you know, that started sucking. So you know, so to me he ain't a real good coach at n now, so we just gotta he just gotta K.Smooth: Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, like two Troy: make sure you do the right quarterback. K.Smooth: years ago. JB: Right. So So what you have them what's your what you have them what's your ranking in the NFC South chart? From one to four. Troy: Like how you say, Tampa. I'm gonna put the Saints to Carolina, then Atlanta until you know the season starts so I can really see. But that's who I got. K.Smooth: I'm I I lay down with you. JB: What about you E? I'm with Troy. I got the same thing Troy got K.Smooth: Is like that. JB: me. Motown: So he said, who he said it first? said, Tampa, then the Saints. Troy: Tampa Sink. Yeah, I got the sink second. Motown: Well, Tampa because to me they got more experience and familiarity with each other. yeah, but I put Carolina number two because they have a lot of good pieces they assembled through the free agency and a draft that can push them another game or two to get them over the hump to win the division again. So I put them at number two. And then Sinks in Atlanta, because Atlanta got talent, man. They have so much talent. And you never know with this coach, he might pull something out of his hat with a quarterback player, I don't know. They just got a lot of talent. So, Sainson, it's 3A, 3B to me with Sainson in the ladder. Troy: Yeah, but then you know Carolina Motown: You lost moon. Troy: they got they got some receivers, you know. Hopefully they play J five. They play J Motown: They they have, yeah. They push the... Troy: five. Say bruh, if they don't let Jimmy Harn play, bruh, like they gon' they trippin'. 'Cause Jimmy can play. JB: yeah. I think he's gonna have a nice breakout season, Mitro. I I think he's gonna Troy: Listen, Jimmy that dude. JB: Right. So Let's move on on to some of the cowboys talk. What are y'all thoughts? Let me see how I can put this. How do y'all feel dip y'all feel like as long as Jerry Jones is the owner? Let's just say the owner we're gonna keep the owner out of but the GM, do you think you see the Cowboys that next step? Or you think Jerry just got his hands too much into the organization? Yeah. Troy: Yeah, too much. Motown: Well, honestly, in the last year, maybe a year and a half now with Jerry Jones, I could take a step back and say that I think that I could see him win the championship. if he's alive and he's still doing what he's doing in next five years, yeah. Cause he's putting too much into the team where, Troy: Mista. Motown: huh? JB: He can draft, no? Motown: You know, I'm a cowboy hater. I hate the cowboys, but I'm keeping it real. Because they always have talent. They just seem like, I don't know if it's the coaching staff or it's the players, but they don't mesh where they're to get over the hump. They always have players to play the game, man. just, it never falls in play. But if Jerry's not doing bad by bringing players in and free agents and signing his players, he's not doing bad. He makes a spectacle out of it, but he bring in players, So yeah, I can JB: That's one thing I agree with. Motown: see it. I can see it. JB: He can draft his they draft the ass off. They always have, like I say, the talent, from drafting to like he said, free agency. So even the today they signed on Von Miller. I think at thirty seven I wanna I know I was gonna talk about this later, but I guess we brought it up I brought it up now, but at thirty seven, Jerry, I know he signed today, but thirty seven years old, I'm wondering if he still have that you know, still have it in him that he can change the culture or change the defense of where Cowboys can be. 'Cause w 'cause last year they was ranked dead last and just barely everything. So can they go from that number thirty two to top ten, top fifteen? Troy: Your eyes Motown: No, not with vine minute, but I think he does bring something to the game where Troy: wanna call? Yoga. Motown: they where they gonna they gonna They're gonna improve on the defense because I forgot actually that he played with us last year That's how sad we was and he had nine sex and only played 37 percent of the snaps So yeah, he's gonna bring something to Dallas because they already have talent and they're gonna listen to him because he's a Super Bowl champ So yeah, but I'm not gonna JB: Right. Motown: say he gonna bring him to over the top. No That's not going too far. But will he help them get a couple more wins? Yes, I do agree. I do agree. JB: Yeah. Yeah, 'cause you know, not just him K.Smooth: Of course he will. JB: but some of the some of the games I watch or some of the game I watched Sunday, I mean Saturday when they played, they got they have they look like they got some they made some nice moves. Like we said number two, I forgot his name. The next name is Caleb, the cornerback. Motown: down. K.Smooth: Kedau, Kedau, number 13. JB: Number two. But that boy he's been doing he'd Motown: Mm-hmm. JB: even doing training camp. training camp and a a game K.Smooth: Number two is our. JB: that just went off. K.Smooth: Number two is COVID the rent JB: I can I can see him. K.Smooth: now. that. Motown: That was a twill. K.Smooth: I'm really gonna help help us out. come but like he's like he said he coming in he wanted to do like 15 to 20 snaps. He's not coming in to dominate for us. He's coming to help teach the other guys and everything else too. So while we got the pass rest coming up the middle, which we never had in a long long time. And Gary and the boys and whoever on the other side of Gary, they should eat. Because they're going to double team. We understand what they're They don't double team even if they do, it's going to be bad. The corners look better, safety look better. Man, we've got the whole defense. The defense is going to be way better than if they were back here. That's without a doubt. Look at the back of the team. Troy: So y'all gonna win the championship? JB: Then ya then y'all see the K.Smooth: They ain't going to say all that, but I think we're going to make a deep run. They're going to win with a two gas. Troy: It's all you, it's all you, it's all you say Jay, what they playing K.Smooth: I will keep it real. Keep it real. Troy: out there right now? What they playing out there right now, huh? JB: Well with boys. Get them boards. K.Smooth: We better play that. We'll play that when we don't lose it. JB: It's good. Yeah. K.Smooth: We'll play that when we don't lose it. JB: It's smooth. Troy: A leah. JB: But I asked this question. I don't think you was you wasn't on, but what you think about with K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: Jerry Jones? You think as long as he's y'all GM, you can see yourself winning the Super Bowl or you think it's gonna be what it been for the last damn, since I graduated from high school, thirty years. K.Smooth: man, he got to that in there. I think, JB: Yeah. K.Smooth: I think he going to, yeah, we going to win another one with him. As you can see right now, he done turned around to his own tail. Troy: Man, stop that, bruh. K.Smooth: He bigger than slam. He not with the bull crap. He him in the media. He bed behind, he letting the coaches coach. That's one thing. That's one different thing. When we won the championship that time, he let the coaches coach. You understand I'm saying? JB: Yep. Got them coach. K.Smooth: is let me focus both. Troy: Hey, that's come from a true s that come from a true Cowboys fan. You know, y'all gotta stop doing K.Smooth: Yeah, they know what's going on with the Motown: So look, K.Smooth: tree. They know what's going on with the tree. So you're saying Jerry's gonna make a movie this tree? Motown: so look, Smoop, Smoop, you wasn't on here. You wasn't on here. K.Smooth: Yeah. Motown: Listen, Smoop, you wasn't on here. You wasn't on here when they asked the question. And when they asked the question, I'm not gonna tell you what I said. I want them to repeat what I said, because they couldn't believe what I said. K.Smooth: What do think? What do you think? JB: He said on he said, I'm not a cowboy yet. Yeah, I went to Troy: In five years, y'all gon' probably win. JB: So that's yeah, that was surprising too. I I thought he was K.Smooth: All right. All right. I love that boy. Thank you, Troy: I'll believe that. K.Smooth: I appreciate that. Motown: No, I mean, that's what I see though. That ain't putting no love for you. That's what I see. No, but yeah, I see, cause he's not doing bad. He's not actually doing bad. K.Smooth: I believe that too. I believe that too. How the team, how the team, how the team, how the I'm saying, man, Troy: I don't see K.Smooth: we signing people when we supposed to sign people. We grabbing people when we supposed to grab them. That's what I'm saying. It's different, man. It ain't the same thing. Pay attention. Troy: But y'all been but y'all been doing that for years, man. K.Smooth: No, we haven't. We haven't. Man, every year, let me tell you what we're busy about for the end. Every year, we're talking about contracts. Every year, we're taking off CD-LAMB. He's having a doubt. Troy: been doing that for years. Listen. Yeah. Y'all might need to y'all might need to get rid of Dak and get rid of Jerry. JB: Yeah. Troy: Y'all might do something. K.Smooth: No, Troy: Huh? K.Smooth: we got the champion so we know you crazy. Troy: Man, listen. Y'all got y'all K.Smooth: Here we got three of them things. Troy: got all right, look how long ago that was, or y'all still living on a past, bruh? Like Johnny said, he was out of he was still in K.Smooth: No matter. No, that made people go out and get a tan instead. Troy: high school when that was happening. Eric was like thirty five when that happened, bruh. So come on, man. K.Smooth: That, that, hey, we got our neighbor once, but that don't mean we're the sad team. We've been going to the playoffs. Motown: Me like... Me like... JB: Hey. K.Smooth: No, you're not lying. Troy: So come on, man. K.Smooth: But that don't mean we weren't what's still waiting. Troy: Man, but that's the problem, bro. Y'all be war y'all living off years ago. We need presence. We need the presence. Stop living in K.Smooth: What you mean, man? Everybody got the freedom to it. Some people, some teams ain't much winning in some one group. What you mean? Troy: Y'all need to live in the present, man. Y'all ain't winning. Motown: But I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say this. Hey Keith, Keith I'm gonna say this, look, Troy: Y'all ain't winning. Motown: check this out, check this out. This year here has been different from how Jerry Jones normally been doing things and it's quiet, but he's making the same moves he been doing, doing the same thing, playing his players when he wanna play them, but he's just been quiet. But your team is talented. I tell you that all the time, you have a talented team. What is it gonna take for you all to get it together, man? K.Smooth: Did you? Did Troy: Sierra gotta go. K.Smooth: you? Did you? JB: think I think the defense can be holding them back to be honest with you. 'Cause K.Smooth: No. Motown: They let Parsons go, they had a peach. JB: Yeah, but it it's always been a defense. You can say that because that they've been playing, they've been balling. Well on K.Smooth: And that was the best part. I'm glad you guys talked. I told you that was the happy part of it. JB: that could put up thirty the offense have put up thirty four points, but they're gonna put thirty five. And that's even in the playoffs. You see what Green Bay. So I K.Smooth: What? What? JB: think their defense is what's stopping them. I'm I'm like I say we've been honest being real, so I I think that's what's hurting their defense, man. They gotta they defense can be solid, at least like I say, that's why if they can they K.Smooth: And it all starts up front. It all starts up front. It all starts up front. And what we did, JB: Mm-hmm. They can do it a time. K.Smooth: we built a front. We took the page out to eat Troy: Okay, but what about your bag? K.Smooth: and read the book. We took the page and did the book and did the book and and did did the and did the and did did Motown: Well, they got the front and the middle and the back right now. What they gonna do? What they gonna do? What they gonna do? They got the front middle and the back. What they gonna do? Troy: What are you gonna see? Motown: Same old thing like last year, huh? Almost made it. K.Smooth: You get trucking from the front, Troy: Yeah, man. K.Smooth: it helps the corner bags out. What you mean? You don't know that, because you're a deep-edged best-ass. Troy: Hey, come on, we gon we're gonna see. We're gonna see. K.Smooth: You got to do with nine seconds. You ain't nothing to do with nine seconds. I know Tony had eight on my team. Troy: Hey really, right? I ain't must go no team. I don't I don't I ain't I ain't filing nobody. K.Smooth: So why'd you all go up on high-team? JB: I was about to say I was just about to say I was just about to say yeah. Troy: Cause bro, y'all y'all always them boys. Y'all always them boys every year. K.Smooth: You don't think and call! Motown: I say y'all, y'all, y'all on a talented team. You gotta do all that talking, but then y'all don't do nothing. That's why. Y'all talented, but y'all don't ever do nothing. K.Smooth: We would be out all the Troy: Every year. K.Smooth: time. Motown: even Troy: Every Motown: know an offense Troy: year. Motown: that can still put up 34 points every year and can't get to the Super Bowl. What the hell wrong with y'all? Huh? K.Smooth: Man, when the last time y'all wouldn't see Troy: Hey, you know what it is? You know K.Smooth: me. I'll wait. Troy: what it is? Motown: Best day! Troy: Dak Dak stopped doing his little his little shoulder, you know, twist in the hips. He don't do that in pregame no more. That's probably what it is. K.Smooth: Hey, when you were doing that, didn't run up in MVP when you were doing that. Nah, nah. Troy: But see, that's what I'm saying. But and guess what? He ain't do nothing else. He he liked a better version of Tony Romo. K.Smooth: You credit? You put my 45 yard last year. It was 45 hundred yards. Motown: Ooooo Troy: He just a tad bit better than Romo. 'Cause Romo was doing the same thing. Motown: Memories K.Smooth: problem. JB: good come up so w like like like Joy said he's a better a little better Romo. So you think I I've been saying that for years to me. I don't see K.Smooth: You can't win a silver bullet with none of them. JB: See it again? K.Smooth: You can, if Brad Johnson can win the Bowl. I know my quarterback is better than Brad Johnson. JB: didn't say I didn't Troy: But it was his system. It was his system that he was running too. That system that y'all running y'all that system K.Smooth: Okay, okay, we did the right coaching. Motown: He's not playing by his self. Troy: y'all running in Dallas, it gotta go. K.Smooth: It's gone. We got a whole new regime. We got a whole new regime, man. Troy: And listen, who pays attention to them boys? JB: Yeah, that's what I think. I just think they've got to take difference. So I K.Smooth: The fan is here to hear. Steven is there. no, no, I don't think you can tell the world. You look on TV. They always talk about the Troy: And by K.Smooth: phone. Come on, man. I'm lying. Troy: Yeah, because 'cause y'all always talking about y'all are Americans team, that's why. Motown: do that. No, K.Smooth: We Motown: we not gonna go there. We not doing that right now. Don't do that. No, we not about to go there. Change the subject, we ain't about to go to that American teen bullshit. No, we ain't about to do that one. We ain't about to go there. We ain't going that smooth. Don't buy into that, leave it alone. Don't do it. Don't do it, Louis. K.Smooth: didn't name ourselves that, bro. We didn't name ourselves that, bro. That wasn't our domain. That wasn't our domain. That wasn't our domain. This guy make kick-ass. The Cowboys get that. I'm not, I'm not. You know, you know, I'm not. I'm not gonna do it. I ain't gonna do it. Motown: All right. K.Smooth: What's the next question, J? Motown: You're wrong, Troy. JB: All right. Let's K.Smooth: He's his thoughts up. JB: next week. K.Smooth: Thank you, Smith. Motown: you JB: Yeah. Troy: I'm just saying, man. I'm just saying, bruh. I'm just saying. K.Smooth: I know what you're trying to do, bro. You ain't gonna break my heart. JB: I know what you're saying, Troy. I'm out here, Americans team. I've man, every every everywhere you go, I'm with Americans team, Americans team. I'm like, God damn. That what y'all think? K.Smooth: They ain't never come out my door. Troy: And then you g and look you got a fan in your house with you, Jay, so I know that's bad. JB: Yeah, she she got here all the time. She know it. She four I'm I'm on a s yeah, two four against one. So she she just she just in here. So let's move on to your team E. K.Smooth: Yeah, but you're probably getting one. And ain't ain't nothing with you against Cooper, Motown: Y'all both know that I'm a diehard. I'm that man. I'm down. But the one thing I would not do is be in denial. And what I see is what I see. This year here, I was optimistic when we got Jaden because of him and that's all we had. But now I'm very optimistic because of the pieces that have been assembled and how we looking on paper right now. We haven't looked like this on paper, bro, for decades. from my eyesight. I mean, we done brought in a lot of old veterans and washed up veterans, but we bringing in some K.Smooth: You Troy: But Motown: talented young players that's filling in and it's looking good. So yes, I do think that we're gonna be a better team, but Super Bowl, no. Playoffs, JB: That's about it. Motown: maybe. JB: about actually so what you think about the new additions like y'all have like the I I I want to see like the step Stefan digs him and him and Scary him and Terry. That should be nice. Now I watched some of the game Saturday I think it was y'all got two nice running backs. I know it's preseason but them boys put up I think a hundred and sixty yards I think it was a hundred Motown: Mm-hmm. JB: like that what is Allen and I forgot the other boy name Motown: Henry Jr. JB: yeah so I I think you know y'all got some Some pit and a and a I I got a nice tight end y'all got from Tennessee. Motown: Chic. JB: Chig, yeah, Chig. So I think y'all got a nice little something y'all put together. Motown: forget we got rest you wait. JB: True. So yeah, it does. Motown: Bro, bro, I mean, and then this is, but it's this new offensive coordinator. Then this is, and then you got Jayden coming from under the center. So all that makes a difference. You got to be put together real well. Cause that's his first time playing K.Smooth: Mm-hmm. Motown: under center, you know, for the majority of the snaps. This will be his first JB: Right. Motown: season. Troy: Tell me this. Tell me this. What a what y'all did with y'all old line? Motown: That for me is a small worry because we got rid of the center. have no idea what happened, in my opinion, I think they had to do with something Daniels. I think Daniels had something to do with that because if it was a center that he liked, he would have tried to fight to keep it up. So he gone. So we drafted the center and we moved Allegretta to center from garden. That's where he played college at his center. So that's okay. But last year we had a solid depth at offensive line. Everybody got hurt first and second string on offensive line last year was one of the first years I can remember us ever being decimated by injuries all across the board every single position you name it I can tell you to play that was out going to the second string out every position so Offensive line was hurt because of that they had to keep shuffling but this year That's a little worried for me is the offensive line especially sending with the snap Directly to Jaden Daniels Troy: My thing is what's going on in the league, JB: Mm-hmm. Troy: a lot of people getting hurt. You know, like you got saying, Motown: here. Troy: I'm like, man, like like what are y'all doing in the off season? Like soon you get in training camp, y'all getting hurt. I don't understand that part. You know, it's like a lot of people's dropping now b you know, because that. Motown: Yeah, yeah. Well, Andrew's always a part of the game. So, you know, you already can do a prayer for that is next man up and heal yourself up. without injury JB: So Motown: this year, I give us I give us at least. Nine, nine wins. JB: So E you I confidence are you with with Jaden? I know he had that injuries, like you said, last year. He had ki but kind of seemed like he didn't take a step back even before the injuries to me. I don't So I would you see him this year, think he has something approved? Motown: He does have a lot to prove to himself and players and it's because, know, only full season he had close to a full season was his first season. And, you know, I was speculating when he first, the first two games, like why he not passing the ball, what's going on. But I found out in the third game that he liked to put the ball in the chest, in the hands. He don't want receivers doing this and doing that. And I found that out as the game went on with Cincinnati. I'm like, that's what he was. So am I... Optimistic or have I think he's gonna have if he can stay healthy, which he put on some muscle mass, too I think he's gonna have a good year I do and with all Troy: Well the slim. Motown: it with all the talent we have around them like my goodness, bro. It's it's yeah When they when we signed digs and I was like we don't need digs. We don't need them I'm confident in the wide receiver head in the room already y'all might not know him But I know and I feel confident with it, but big does help us in the wide receiver room I immediately went to watch Eight minutes of his highlights from last year and I was totally impressed, man. I was like, of course they showed the highlights, but I was like, wow, nobody can really guard him in that slot. And I was looking for the five to 10 routes, yard routes. This man was running 15, 25 yard routes down the field, And I was impressed. So he does help us out with the tight end Troy: Listen listen, dig's that do, bruh. Motown: and white. All that helped the passing game out. Troy: Listen, Diggs that dude, bruh. It just he just I don't know, all shenanigans, but dig's that dude, bruh. Motown: Right? Right. Troy: You know what I'm saying? You saw what he did to Sinks when he was in Minnesota. You know, like he can really ball, bruh. Like Yeah, most most definitely. Most definitely. Motown: He's a route runner. That's what he is, but he's a real true route runner. And that's what Jayden JB: That's what Motown: need, a route runner. McLaurin never had a true number two since he been in the league. Never. JB: Okay. Motown: So, and a quarterback and a tight end. mean, he never had all that. So I'm looking for success. JB: Yeah, that's why I said earlier, y'all got some talent that's coming in, so again if everybody stay healthy, again, I see y'all doing some K.Smooth: Thank JB: good things, nine wins. Ugh, I don't know. K.Smooth: Yeah, he went 19. Motown: And we have, I think like the six, the six hardest schedule. Our schedule was pretty hard. Our first game is against Philadelphia, of course. Our second game K.Smooth: game Motown: is Dallas, of course. And then we have K.Smooth: with deep. Motown: Seattle, then the coast and the Giants, I believe. So our first five games, we at got to try to come out two wins, three wins. JB: What about you, Smooth? You think K.Smooth: Yeah. Yeah, that dick is different. JB: all the all the moves that the Washington made this year from signing digs to Chig, the tight end. I was we was talking earlier too about the two running backs they got, Henry Jr. and Allen, who one hundred and sixty yards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot K.Smooth: Yeah, and they got forward. Motown: We still have to run forward too. JB: about him. K.Smooth: Yeah, they got a hell of a running back crew. I like the additions. dig what I'm saying? That officer mine hold up for them. You know what saying? Because we JB: Yeah. K.Smooth: got a new officer coordinator, Yeah, so yeah, you know, so you got to see how that's going to go. But you got a player to receive, you got Antonio Williams. I like that to do, you know what saying? that receiving court, you got to watch out for them. You got to watch out for them. You don't have three cornerback, know. You don't have three cornerback, Motown: We got some receivers they're going to get rid of too. We got they don't have to get rid. They're going to get rid of a couple of receivers. Here we go. K.Smooth: you know. Motown: What do we need three cornerbacks for? Huh? K.Smooth: Not you. I'm talking about the team y'all playing. See that? Y'all, we say I'm blinding you. See that? Trying to be some pro football, but I'm trying to be Motown: This is to say you need three quarterbacks. K.Smooth: some pro. I'm saying if they playing, y'all, if y'all ain't got three cornerbacks against y'all, one in the cornerback getting cooked. You feel what I'm Motown: Okay. My apologies. JB: All right. So let's move on to the to the to the I guess my my Eagles. What do y'all see since with with the departure of AJ Brown, what do y'all see the Eagles off the offense offense going this year? K.Smooth: thought of list of Troy: I think down. I think down because you don't have no no truth number one. K.Smooth: Yeah, and all books and more like that. Troy: You can't you can't say D Smith gonna be your number your number one. He too small. So and then you know, if you double him, who else gonna do what they gotta do? So I just think that's gonna, you know, that ain't gonna help. K.Smooth: We've been making plays and JB: Sleep on our tight end, you know. K.Smooth: we've been making plays. They got nothing to do. Troy: Hey, like the tight end, cool. But but you need you need an AJ though. You you gotta find your number two, K.Smooth: I was too old for that. JB: Mike W. Troy: number one. K.Smooth: They're use that to tie it in. JB: I'm gonna Motown: let's see, they did sign, have some free agent sign, they did sign K.Smooth: Wicks Motown: Hollywood Brown. K.Smooth: and wicks. Troy: Come on, brother. Motown: Hey, bruh, listen, somebody JB: Yeah. Yeah. Motown: else trashes somebody's gold. Come on, now, you gotta think about it. Troy: But I'm saying though, w man Hollywood ain't do nothing since he was in college. K.Smooth: That's JB: Well he held it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying if he held it. Motown: But I mean, he should be healthy this year, right? Shouldn't he be healthy? So we get to see. We get to see. K.Smooth: They got a lot of hamstring machines. They got three hamstring machines. Motown: Now that could be, let me ask you this, hold on. Do you think that Brown could take the number one receiver spot in Philadelphia? Troy: No. K.Smooth: 1D. Motown: So he can't take it from Devante? K.Smooth: No. Troy: He no number one. Motown: You said it didn't happen to us, so why he can't beat one? Troy: They don't, but I'm saying he's not a number one. He's small. K.Smooth: You can't trust him. He's never been one. He's never been one. Motown: But you saying he's small and you saying Devontae's small. Troy: He not that he's not that dude like that. Motown: Okay, I'll just K.Smooth: You know him. Motown: ask that. I'll just ask. JB: So Troy, you said small. K.Smooth: I see. JB: Was Marvus Harris Hold on sm was Marvis Harris on a big receiver? Troy: When I say small, I mean like he lighting ass. Motown: Marvin Harrison was lighting that, his tongue just fallen off him in the pros. That boy's tongue just falling off. Troy: But listen, but listen to but but but Mar JB: I think that Troy: but it was it was it was a difference, Brian. It was a difference. It was a difference. JB: was the difference. Harris days. And y and these receivers these days they got the freedom to do a lot of stuff. You can't put your hands on them. You're not going Troy: But then but my but my thing is you double him and that's it, that's a right. K.Smooth: you JB: You got the tight end, you still gotta stop two six. Go ahead. Motown: They said, they also had three tight ends too. Troy: No próprio senh. JB: And also, like you like Holloway Brown, K.Smooth: I don't know what I did. JB: if he come out helping, that's two deep breaths we have. K.Smooth: I'm saying bye. Troy: I don't know, they you know, you still need that number one. JB: I'm not Yeah. I still think they're not I I don't think I don't think they're done yet. They're still gonna 'cause they're still gonna look for their receiver. K.Smooth: I'm gonna say bad on the ground. If you took, Motown: He still got the rookie too. Is he healthy? K.Smooth: if you have the bad to that's the car limit. JB: I'm glad you look good, he look good against Baltimore. Forgot about he look good against Baltimore. So K.Smooth: If they don't be bothered with the hamstrings, they're going to see it. Motown: So can he be the number one? Can he take the number one spot? JB: I still gotta see more stuff on him. I g I always I always like K.Smooth: Yeah, thanks, bro. JB: five or six games, then I can say, okay, that boy doing his thing. But he looked again, you know, the first first preseason game is always second against second. You better get a a star to team, but he looked good to me. If he's gonna against NFL talent. That's that's that's what that's what count to me. That's what I go by. K.Smooth: Yeah, I feel it. Motown: I haven't seen him yet, but when you are drafting him, do you have an injury? Troy: You know who y'all need to go get? K.Smooth: Yeah, hamstring. JB: Do it again? Troy: Y'all should have went go get O O D B. K.Smooth: They caught hamstring they so fast that be the problem. You know what saying? But I'm saying by him got to get you to AJ Brown. I think they have JB: Okay. K.Smooth: a slow start because they got a new office coordinator too. You know, when you implement these new coordinators, know, shit don't be clipped as soon when you start, you know, stuff got to develop. So I think, you know, mid JB: Right. K.Smooth: season or something, they should have a down pat. And then they should be rolling with that. You know what I'm That's how I feel. Because I feel like they could, like three JB: I agree. And I think I think about K.Smooth: of us could make the playoffs and that one could finish. Eagles being one, Boston being another. that's it. JB: Mm-hmm. K.Smooth: Don't think the Giants gonna do it yet. JB: Right. I think one with Brown being gone, that might take some pressure off Hurst Hurt. because to me it Motown: Thank JB: felt like he was trying to make sure he pleased him. And that K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: was he he I he he played a lot out of his game last year. He'll Troy: Bought a check. JB: sometimes he'll look at Brown, but at the same time he's like, I don't want to force it, but I'm gonna hear his mouth. That's what I K.Smooth: Mm-hmm. Right. JB: and I was telling on people show that people be thinking Brown be open but On TV they don't show that person over the top. This dude was doubled a big percentage of time. K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: And of course he won't force the ball to him. So I I think Brown McKee's a he's a good receiver. I'm one of the the best in the game right now, but I think that's gonna relieve some pressure off a hurt me first. What do you say, Troy? K.Smooth: So he say you like a diva over this. Motown: Thank you. Troy: feel like Brown was just doing too much, bro. You know what I'm saying? Let the game go. Every it's not gonna K.Smooth: Read books. JB: Yeah. Troy: always be for you. Not every game. You know, but he wanted the every game. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes it ain't gonna be your night. But he wanted the ball K.Smooth: Yeah, he wanted to go out like he did then. He wanted to go out. Troy: all the time. That was his problem. He K.Smooth: Okay. Troy: won't be too, you know, what they say receivers won't be all that. You know, so he gotta pull back. Yeah, definitely. Motown: You a diva? Troy: Definitely that. JB: Exactly. K.Smooth: and that's JB: Yeah, let's j let's K.Smooth: Yeah, it's there. JB: jump into the the last team in the NFC's. what y'all think about the Giants making some nice moves on offense receiver wise. Y'all think Dark what is his name sending right? Dart? Thank he's gonna K.Smooth: Yeah, Jacksonville. Troy: Yeah. Dark. JB: take that step 'cause he got some nice some nice decent receiver. I they're older. He got some nice K.Smooth: Yeah, he's very talented. don't know, that once again, that line ain't gonna hold up and he ain't gonna run that much. You dig what I'm saying? Because he got them to knock out the preseason game. Motherfucker, Mr. Black, he laid out there. Boy, JB: I thought that was a real K.Smooth: I almost thought you gonna call the stretcher for that part. heard me? Motherfucker, somebody got back and go, if JB: I said let's do it. K.Smooth: you don't get up and walk for half a second. You fucked up. It took about four seconds to get up. JB: Exactly. K.Smooth: And then when the people came to come JB: Right. K.Smooth: pick him up, he had to make sure that was them before he put his hands back. He said, all right. Then he put his hands back. Motown: Thank you. K.Smooth: I looked at the clip about three, four times before I got on him. So I knew what I was talking about. I had to make sure. I said, man, he made out. Kyle Brant was talking about it. You know what saying? Man, that's best. Motown: Personally, the Giants, they picked up some nice free agents in pretty much every position, They picked up Neal, the offensive guard. They picked up like three corners, Newsome. They picked up the tight end from Baltimore, Likley. They K.Smooth: likely. Motown: picked up Mooney. They picked up the fullback, Ricard. They picked up some quality players, right? A lot of positions. Plus, their draft was pretty good. And I've always been afraid of the sad ass Giants because they always find a way to fucking beat us, man. They just find a way to beat Washington K.Smooth: I hope we see it! Motown: Brown some kind of way. they, K.Smooth: Last one. Motown: with Harvon being there now, I give JB: Yeah, that's what I see a big Motown: him, I give them, if they won six games last year, him instantly give them two more wins by himself, coaching. So they got eight wins from me. They got eight wins from me. Troy: So that's gonna put y'all at the bottom? JB: Thanks, Roy. Motown: I said we had nine, remember that. Troy: Man, listen, long's long as my boy play, bro, I'm I'm alright, you know. I don't really you know man. damn, man. Motown: Who is your boy? Who is your boy? Who? JB: dead K.Smooth: not again. Motown: Who? JB: Beckham Troy: there. JB: OBJ. Troy: Yeah, listen. Man, you can all you want. You know you can do all that all you want. And my dog Listen, bruh. Man, listen, bruh. Listen, bruh. Man, Motown: Man, come on man, they just being nice to him, bruh. They being nice to him, Troy Brown. JB: Yeah. Troy: that dude still can play, dog. Motown: Say, All right, JB: Are you saying Troy: A man lesson. Motown: all right. I'm not gonna say he can't play. I'm not. But can he play a whole game? Troy: Yeah. JB: Can he be a number three or four? Troy: I I I definitely could be he could be a number two. He could Motown: They don't have the number for him. Troy: be two and three. Motown: They don't have the number for him. But that number, if he number nine and they call him in, he probably can get you a catch at the nine position. Troy: man, stop playing with him like that, dawg. Listen. Hey, Motown: you mean? Come on bro, they just been a favorite to him bro, that's all. You really think he gonna get on the field? JB: e he Don't Troy: he can go to the he can go to the Eagles. JB: bring him over here. We good. Troy: He go over the eagle. JB: Yeah, but well this old Dell, I gotta see him. Troy: Listen, K.Smooth: So. Troy: bruh. Listen. If he wouldn't have got injured, bruh, listen. Motown: What year? Troy: Every that's what I'm saying. He get injured Motown: Okay. Troy: every year. I I'm not saying that he get injured every year, you know. Like that's this, you know. Motown: You can't count on it, bro. You can't count on Troy: Man, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. JB: Yeah. He proved proving itself and be healthy. Motown: I'm keeping it real. like them but you can't count on them. Troy: Listen. Duh da them knees. Them knees beh the knee mess everybody knees messed up. Huh? Hey. Motown: How long did he play in the stool bowl? A quarter and a half? What did he do? Troy: So listen. He he played the whole f first half. If he wouldn't have went out, he'd have won MVP, cuz. Come on, I'll do him like that. I'll do him like that. Motown: I'm just saying, I don't want the if, don't put the if there, just say go play. Troy: Yeah, cause if we if if if was a fifth we ought to be drunk, I get that, right? Man, don't do like that, dog. Don't do like that. Motown: So don't put the F, leave him alone. He's not, no, he's a casualty dog. Hey bro, hey bro. The Giants not doing them like that. Troy: With him and my Malik neighbors? Motown: You what I'm putting this, now you're disrespecting me, Lee, bruh. Really, bruh? I'm Sick, bruh, for real, bruh. Troy: LA Shoe Boys, man, come on, man, don't do that. Motown: Put you in denial. Troy: Say JB: He Troy: brother. JB: he likes playable, no ain't no ain't no change his mind. Motown: Hey, I'm not mad, but keep it Troy: I'd like Motown: real though. Ain't nothing wrong with liking it, but keep it real. JB: Yeah. Troy: Amen. Man be getting hurt, bruh. That's that's his only downfall. Motown: Say, bro, he wouldn't be on nobody else's team right now. JB: So E you saying they giving Troy: Good one. K.Smooth: Do it. JB: him a farewell. That what you're saying, Eric? So you saying they're giving LBJ a farewell tour. So he can return. Motown: Pretty much. Pretty much. Pretty much. Troy: Yeah, I'm free. JB: So you don't think he can go and give you three to four catches a game? K.Smooth: He gonna play though. Yeah! Motown: Look, might get in a whole game. Seriously, if they put him in the game, I ain't saying start, whatever they put O'Dell Beckham in the game, he might get two looks and maybe a target the whole game. Troy: Ha ha. Motown: He might get two looks. And then a target and then the next Troy: Yeah. K.Smooth: it's gonna be. Motown: time, uh-uh. that's it. That's K.Smooth: It all on how much you click. Motown: a lot. That's a lot, Troy. Troy: you down bad for that one down. See, bruh. K.Smooth: I'm getting three Tarbans. I get three Tarbans, guys. I'm getting three Tarbans. JB: Would have Motown: Say, say smooth. This dude think that O'Dell gonna be on the starting field with the Giants, right? He happy. Line them up. He said line Troy: I say starting, I ain't say K.Smooth: So, being a bomb stopper. Motown: them up with me and leak neighbors. Troy: I say he can be a I say K.Smooth: Ha Troy: he can be your number three. Why he can't be a three? Why he can't be your three? K.Smooth: You can. Good three. Hey, Ron, you still go round rocks. They say he look good in training. JB: I could I can still Troy: Man put I can see that boy dream. I ain't saying one or two. Motown: That's too much playtime y'all give me that dude. Troy: I ain't saying one or two, but Dream? Come on, man. Duh. Motown: Number three is a lot of playing time. You know you get a lot of playing time after three. K.Smooth: Yes, yes. Troy: Duh, don't don't put K.Smooth: could be a thing. Troy: don't don't do the man like that, bro. Motown: That's wasting minutes, bro. Troy: Say bruh, I'm I'm I'm gonna put this out and I'm gonna let O'Dell know you that you a hater, son. Motown: And like, Odell, don't keep K.Smooth: Okay. Motown: it real. I'm not hatin', bruh. Why would you keep the reals, because it'll hate? Troy: With the with the you're a hater. K.Smooth: ready. Troy: You're a hater with them thick ass glasses on. That's what's going on. K.Smooth: I Troy: You're hating, bruh. Don't do like that. Motown: except for why when you're trying to keep it real, it's considered you hating. Troy: Cause we K.Smooth: Yes, I hate e-dra. Motown: he's good player! Troy: No no you don't like him because you talking about my dog and he can't even be a three. Motown: No, no, no, three, no. K.Smooth: Good. Troy: He gon' get he gonna get two looks in the in a maybe. You know what I'm saying? Like, come on man. That's what I'm saying, in a maybe. Motown: I did two looks and one target. K.Smooth: You might get three tongues. You might get three tongues. You ain't gonna get a lot. Motown: That's a lot, bro. That's a lot. K.Smooth: We are not. We are not. JB: Now what if now if he if he come out there and ball his ass off, hey, we're gonna have to come back and we K.Smooth: we didn't do it yet. JB: we have the conversation. Motown: Yeah, we have to revisit that. Yeah, we will. JB: He again I I can see him being at three or four at three number at number three or four. But if he come back like I say with on a mission, hey, we never know. Like Charles said, Ned was saying Odell. K.Smooth: Ha Motown: But he said, he said, send them to the Eagles and you said you don't want them. So let's send them to the Cowboys. JB: That was you gotta say that about that, Smooth. K.Smooth: We're rock off! He can work, he gonna be number four. Got it? Be number four. JB: So you saying practice squad at for the cowboy? K.Smooth: We ain't gonna start on number three. We got Floyd know at number three. So he gonna be our number four. So I take JB: Yeah, what it both. K.Smooth: him at number four. Put your four best car in the back. Move on when? Move on when? Move on when? Answer the question. Motown: But if you all notice, look, this is how, look at this, this out, check this out. If you all notice, if you all JB: Yeah. Motown: notice, there's one person on this board that doesn't have a team that's trying to find a team for Odell Beckham. K.Smooth: I said put him at number four, bruh. Motown: Were you acting like an Asian, bud? K.Smooth: You'd be number four. You can't be number three for her. JB: Hey Hey Troy, he can come to my He can come to my my my third team, the Niners. We need another receiver. We can you he'll probably be at number one over there. So we can we can take him K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: over there. Forty Niners. He'll be alright. So Motown: Yes. K.Smooth: and the oil we don't get. JB: So let's go with you Troy. Since you're on the road, Troy, go ahead and K.Smooth: you JB: still pick number the the Eastern Conference from one to four. NFC East. Motown: Energy Ease K.Smooth: Take it easy. JB: Yeah, from you know, Washington Harlem. K.Smooth: Well, of course, I got us going first only because we kept our whole office together. I know you gonna hate over here on the up on the on the Motown: Thank K.Smooth: up. Only because nobody never wanted to in three times in row. And by y'all losing AJ Brown is still a you don't know yet. You think I'm saying? Out of all offices. our offense is the one that's there together. So yeah, I'm gonna give up first just to see it, but the defense got to play too. So then I got the Eagles second and y'all 30 and John 4. You already said y'all give eight wins. So you can't be second with eight wins. JB: You got it? Motown: Well, I don't know how y'all recognize our division, but I know our division, we always beat up on each other. And it doesn't matter who has 12 wins or who has three wins. The three-win team can still come out and beat everybody in the division least one time. Because K.Smooth: We can move into better nature. Motown: of the experience, I'm putting Philly on top. They lost a receiver, but... They still got the coaching and they still got the quarterback. I'm putting them at number one. They're not far ahead, believe me. Dallas is number two only because of the talent that they have. like you said, offense has been together a long time and the coaches been at least two years. And three, it's going to sound crazy. Giants K.Smooth: you Motown: and Washington is three together tied at three. And that's how I see it. They got to prove it to me that what we have got to prove it to me. So we had to bottom us in the Giants. And it's only like a K.Smooth: I'm confused on your case, JB: Yeah. What about you, Troy? Motown: game and a half from bottom to top. I'm not giving Philadelphia like 12 wins and we know it's going to be real, real close. I think it's going to real close. K.Smooth: He said they won the three times in a row. So you saying they won the three times in a row? Motown: Right now that's K.Smooth: A E Motown: the way I see it. right now. Right now. That's how I see it. Pre-season, yes. K.Smooth: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, new office, you say our office, I ain't saying Motown: You can change all your own titles and names, that's how I see it right now, so... K.Smooth: what you're saying. I'm just trying to make sure I heard correctly. I'm trying to make sense of this. Motown: Yeah. Yeah. mean, they have already, Philadelphia has already proven to you that they can change coordinators and still win. So that's not really a big deal. They've shown you that several years. They just did it one time. So that question you asked me about new coordinators, K.Smooth: But they also painted this area brown. This is your Navy. Motown: no, that don't come into play with me. K.Smooth: When you lose a big club, you can't just automatically say they're gonna be good. Motown: They might come in to play with my team or your team, not them, huh? K.Smooth: I'm saying when you lose the dominant, is it Brown to be a player or not? This is the first year you're gonna see without him. That don't mean they gonna be the same outfit. You know what outfit is gonna Motown: Alright. K.Smooth: be. You know what outfit is gonna be. Motown: But that don't mean because they changed offense is not going to be good either. It doesn't mean that. And they must have some kind of faith in Devontae Smith K.Smooth: That don't mean it won't. I mean, we our best. It's a pressure ball. Motown: to make him number one because he's not really a true number one, they're making him a number one. So we have to see how they go. K.Smooth: I'm saying, I'm saying when they all feel it's a question, you know, that's all I'm saying. It's not a for sure thing. JB: Right. What you got, Troy? Troy: Yep. JB: Yeah. Motown: Yeah. K.Smooth: Yeah. Troy: So I think what call they not that I don't know. Philly gonna win. That's all I need to know. That's all I gotta say. I don't know about Dallas. Y'all are right. Motown: Wait, what you getting ranked at? K.Smooth: We know he got hated. I ain't worried about it. I ain't worried about what he's saying. He got hated. Troy: So b I'ma I'ma see I got Philly, Washington, then the Cowboys, then the Giants. K.Smooth: Good pick though. I like that. Even though we're gonna prove you wrong. Troy: É surada. K.Smooth: Ha JB: I think again I'm gonna I'm gonna go with E I I think we're gonna reason why I say I think we're gonna I think they're gonna make our offense more Jalen Hurst friendly. so I know we said we a new offense corner and all that stuff, but still I think they're gonna make this offense Motown: you JB: better for him. So I still got I got up I got obviously I gotta make the game safe, but I'm gonna go with my go with Eagles, Cowboys, Washington, and then it's Giants. That's the that's the teams I have going out there. Motown: The Troy: Thank you. JB: Y'all who got the better offense to to y'all in in the whole East in NFC East? Out of Cow I'm see Motown: whole JB: Yeah. K.Smooth: it. It ain't the rain. Motown: Come back to me on that JB: Much. Motown: one. gotta, JB: You got smooth. K.Smooth: Now I'm rolling with us, man. Fuck that. Motown: Yeah, I mean, because last year they say the Bears was pretty good. The Rams and Seattle. JB: So Troy: Now Seattle got a good offer. K.Smooth: for the number to receive it. Let me have that. Let me have that. Let me have Motown: But for me, I would have to go with the Rams right now. I would have to go with the Rams. K.Smooth: that. For your number to receive it JB: That's why I gotta eat the Rams. K.Smooth: is. Motown: And Dallas is up there too K.Smooth: for five minutes. Motown: because the continuity, Dallas is up there with the continuity because Pickens I think is going to have a real good season this year. JB: Yeah. K.Smooth: Of course, it's contract. JB: That contract, exactly. Yep. So that's what I'm with. I'm with y'all on that. I I for me far as I'm with E. I I go Rams and the Cowboys. That's the top two I see in the in the NFC. Motown: Now watch me gonna show y'all something different though so y'all be real aware of that. K.Smooth: This is I give up on the ranch is I tighten better than they tighten. Troy: I I look I I say Seattle. K.Smooth: Who said I'm number two receiving? JB: Yeah. Troy: I don't know. But number one, listen, they got that number one receiver. They got that receiver and that running Motown: Please. K.Smooth: Waa waa waa. Waa waa waa. Troy: back. Man, listen. JB: He said, you know the boy. K.Smooth: Wah wah wah. Peace out. Troy: See bruh, listen. Listen. Don't play with Seattle or the offense, son. K.Smooth: We ain't playin' no, they ever gonna play when they still got the tight defense. You understand? That defense still hella fire. But, motherfuckers JB: yeah. K.Smooth: own that tunnel bitch or shit you just throwin' at the Jackson Smith and Jaguars there. Man, they own that shit this year, they got tape on that. That's a wrap. So, that's a wrap. Troy: But listen, but that be the thing. Y'all be on it something about y'all on it, but what's gonna happen though? You're gonna be able to stop it. K.Smooth: Yes. Motown: You gotta be able to stop it. K.Smooth: Yes. Motown: Gotta be able to stop it. Troy: Cause look you K.Smooth: Yeah. Troy: can look good all on paper. Your paper can say you good, but when you get on that field, JB: Yeah. Troy: all that gonna be nothing. Motown: Boy, that's Dallas up and down. Dallas looks good on paper. K.Smooth: Yeah, we did that Troy: Definitely. K.Smooth: too. Motown: Every year. Troy: Every year, every year. K.Smooth: Like you know, to my Motown: I mean, we ain't lying. We ain't lying. Troy: What they say? Weed bored every year. K.Smooth: You're the best opportunity. JB: Last question we're gonna wrap up NFC East. What quarterback got the most pressure on him this season? The NFC East. K.Smooth: Hersh, Hersh, is in Troy: Jelly. K.Smooth: the bow. JB: Yeah, I think we all Troy: Hey, but you gotta talk about what you call him too, bruh. At some point, Prescott gotta, you know what I'm saying? If he don't win, some gotta go. He gotta go. K.Smooth: You're doing it down south, huh? You're on south, huh? Now see, I can't let you keep talking about me. You don't have no taste. You gotta shut the hell up. You don't have no taste. I don't want Troy: I'm just saying, I'm just saying you ain't gonna get all that money, you know. K.Smooth: hear anything about you. What you gotta say, Jay? You ain't got no taste. You ain't got no taste. You ain't got no taste. Let me ask you a question, Troy: I'm just saying at some point when you gonna when you gonna stop being your quarterback. Motown: think all of them do for their own personal reason. I think they all do. They all do. JB: Let's see let's see what you gotta say about K.Smooth: See you on the chair. JB: Dak. So what gotta say about Dak, George? Troy: Listen, at some point, you gotta f win. K.Smooth: He's Troy: How long he been on the team, Spoo? How long he been your quarterback, Spoo? About K.Smooth: the winner of quarterback and cowboy history bro, we love him. Troy: about twelve years? JB: Sure, are you saying so you you feel like Dak is K.Smooth: You can win this quarterback. Yeah, you feel like that, man. Yeah, Troy: May he may he huh? Motown: Can you have a pee? K.Smooth: you feel like that. You can see how it's coming. JB: 'Cause they had that week the number six quarterback in the NFL. So you think that's too low or you think he's just overrated? Troy: He's overrated. He I'm about to tell you, bro, he reminded me of Tony Romo. I could do I could do all numbers during the season. When the playoffs come, I can't really do too much. Like, come on, bro. Like all that big money. It's still ain't huh? JB: So he to James. K.Smooth: You need a whole team to win the Super Bowl, brother man. You need a whole team to win the Super Bowl. If you think he wants to go by himself, has defense, a running back, and an offensive line, brother. You need a whole team, It ain't just the quarterback, brother. Come on, man. You name it, one quarterback that won the Super Bowl by itself. Troy: Listen hold up, hold up, hold up. Don't say like y'all ain't never had no. Don't act like y'all ain't never had. Motown: think Dak is a good quarterback, I do. I think Dak is a good quarterback. Do I think he can get y'all over the hump? K.Smooth: Okay, dude. Troy: the regular season qualified. Motown: I actually do think he can get y'all over the K.Smooth: Thank you. Motown: hump smooth, I do. I do. But, y'all just don't do it. Y'all don't do it. Troy: When it's been ten years. It's been ten years. It's been ten K.Smooth: All this hate over here. All this hate over here. We're gonna do it this year, then. How about that? We're gonna stick a fat one in Troy's mouth. We're gonna Troy: Mm-hmm. K.Smooth: share them up. Motown: I guess it's good to have a quarterback that can get you in the playoffs, bro. I guess it's good. K.Smooth: So if JB: I think K.Smooth: you're taking a clear out, you can't get the soup go. Motown: Yeah, it happened, so I can't say yes. K.Smooth: Cause your father got to say to you all, he go to the Superbowl yet. Troy: How many times we have to Super Bowl? How many playoffs? Motown: Yeah, but we're not going to talk about my quarterback because my quarterback got his first and then your quarterback and my quarterback just got you. We ain't going talk about quarterbacks. Leave that alone, Troy: How many times, how many times, how many times he got to the point? K.Smooth: Yeah, you got to hurt him. But that's all I'm saying. You're gonna get that. Troy: How many times you got to the playoffs? Motown: At least he got a taste of it. JB: Answer this one for me, y'all. So smooth. K.Smooth: And you say, boy. JB: Can you you say that Dak was y'all the reason y'all didn't go for the last three or two years in the in the playoffs? Because you know the year before, K.Smooth: Who's a dead dog? JB: I think it was saying you think Dak the reason y'all didn't go to that next to the s to the second round, or was it third round? 'Cause you know the last three years I want to say I know forty nines, we bust that ass. He didn't know what he didn't know he had to get the ball to the referee, thank him for Motown: Thanks. JB: that. and last K.Smooth: We play good again. JB: against Green Bay, he played good. That was a hell that was a hell of a brain fall. K.Smooth: They got a body. The end of that game, they had two files. End of that game, defense had two penalties that fucked us up. There ain't nothing I'm saying. Ever see, when the defense fucked up, nobody knows the defense fucked up. JB: Yeah, we're not doing. K.Smooth: They just go off of that and speak. So, they said that makes sense. JB: no, we understand that but the defense but the defense didn't get a ball the defense knew they but the defense wasn't a reason that Dak didn't get him the ball to the ref the for him to reset it. That's how y'all lost that game. no but I never saw Big K.Smooth: I'm saying, no, I'm saying before that possession, boy, we stopped them all, stopped y'all. We stopped y'all on on the floor, before it poured down so we make y'all play. And the boy hit on Motown: Yeah, second man. K.Smooth: the fucking blocker and y'all kept the ball. That messed us up. That messed us up. He had two penalties. I forgot JB: my K.Smooth: who it was. I wanted to say it was Gregory. I wanted to say it was Gregory. Yeah, it was Gregory. He held the line. Man, you JB: Mm-hmm. K.Smooth: tell me that type of shit don't miss the game up either at the end of the game? JB: Yeah, but if he wanna be known as a a Brady, a a Payton Peyton Manny, Mahone, K.Smooth: So. JB: you can't make mental things like that. You know that you never see I was first time ever see K.Smooth: So wait, wait, so tell me this, so tell me this, on that play when he forgot, if he would have gave it to the ref, it's down, he gotta throw 30 yards for a touchdown. He ain't got time to down it. He gotta play the play, it's like five full seconds left. He can't down it, he can't down it. JB: But no K.Smooth: Everybody gotta get set, he can't down it. He gotta throw it, we on the JB: yeah down yeah down here. K.Smooth: 30, we ain't on the 15, we on the 30. He gotta throw a hell of a Mary, bruh. They don't want me getting a test down. We got to throw a hair on Barry. JB: Hey, but you know we'll Troy: Man, listen. Listen, listen. JB: we'll never know 'cause he didn't get a rough the ball, so we'll never Troy: Listen, K.Smooth: dog Troy: let's just let's stop talking about K.Smooth: what what yard line he was on that's what i'm saying what yard line would be on he was on the 30 other 25 you you said me that's an easy throw JB: Yeah. K.Smooth: to the end zone yeah all y'all gonna stand in JB: Easy for NFL. Motown: Okay. K.Smooth: the end zone all y'all gonna stand in the end zone that's a touchdown no it JB: Yes. K.Smooth: ain't a touchdown cause y'all just gonna stand in the end zone right am i right JB: I saw a lot of Hail Marys in my Hail Mary's anything can happen. Anything K.Smooth: sick, bro. Come on. We're about 49 defense. Y'all deep in what's sad then? Yeah, hell no. Y'all deeper than never say JB: No, no. Anything can happen. The ball can be tipped. Somebody catch it. But again, like I say, we never knew because he didn't get erupt the ball. And K.Smooth: Yeah, but I know he got to throw a hell of a very. And those the JB: Yeah. Okay, that's K.Smooth: percentage on the health barrier is not good. The percentage on the health barrier is not good. It can happen, but it's not good. All I'm saying is he's a hell of a barrier. So you're saying that Troy: Hey, listen. Listen. Listen. You can tell the powerboy. JB: Okay. Motown: No. Listen to that. JB: Yeah. Again we're not Motown: We made it look good. We made it look good. K.Smooth: why pay cause that's exactly right, bro. I get what you're I get what you're saying. JB: Yeah, I think because again, I never saw Brady, Holmes, Breeze, none of them quarterbacks they mentally thinking, okay, the rough gotta touch that ball. Again, you saying that we don't we don't know what would have happened. Again, he can again we had a Yeah, in again a Hail Mary or something K.Smooth: I know you got to throw a hell of a matter. What you mean? That's the hard for me. JB: like the right spot. And thirty yards, yeah, you're saying thirty yards like it's sixty yards. K.Smooth: We only got it just like at the end of the game it is. You can see that. If everybody's standing in the end zone, what you gonna do? Troy: But listen. Listen. Listen. JB: But don't you want that we saw how marriage happened before in life. So we never Troy: Hey, listen. Motown: Yes, I went two years ago. K.Smooth: Give me a good percentage Troy: Let's K.Smooth: on y'all, Mary. Out of 100, give me a good percent. Troy: What's up? Motown: It's low. It's low. It's low. K.Smooth: 30%, 25 %? Come on, man. Come on, man. JB: But again, we'll never know tell because he didn't okay. You don't want okay We all agree that was Dak fault. Okay, what about a year after that against Green Bay? Y'all put up thirty what, twenty son twenty son perns, whatever it was the first half and K.Smooth: What you talking about with Dan Quinn? Dan Quinn got that job of washing this **** not deep as hell, bitch ass. JB: Y'all gonna say defense, but Dak offense stops scope. Mm-hmm. K.Smooth: The defense didn't talk nobody. Dan King fixed one foot in the cell, but he also brought his back and the defense put a stop to his field. JB: Hey, but how many out of those picks and stuff, how many how many K.Smooth: Hey, why are we not, why are we not putting the deep end? had Michael Parson, we had Michael Parson on the other side. Troy: The problem is K.Smooth: He ain't getting no sacks. He ain't getting no pressure. He only got one sack through the hole. he's pretty off career. One sack. What my defense had? Name me a team that made a super JB: But what was the problem what's the problem? You saying defense, but what's the problem? Troy: Look, the problem K.Smooth: bowl that didn't have a defense. Name me a team that made super bowl that didn't JB: Understand it, but what's the problem with the offer? K.Smooth: have a defense. You got to have offense and defense, right? Not just a quarterback, right? Hurts? Hurts? JB: Yeah, Subo yakes the FNOS. K.Smooth: First y'all have 300 yards, right? Motown: This is JB: No, I'm saying I say I say support. K.Smooth: You hear me? First y'all have to throw 300 yards. Troy: Hey Eric, Eric. Cowboys bro they gonna always they gonna do that's the problem, bro. That's the problem. I think it just Motown: I know man, I know, I know. JB: Hello? Troy: stuff you need. JB: Only I'm saying is you saying Motown: I he's so my passion. JB: No no, I love that Troy: Yeah, you see him. Well he K.Smooth: What's happening in the real Troy: likes K.Smooth: world? Everybody like the brain shit on the JB: they're saying K.Smooth: deck. It don't get a deep as no slack. Come on, man. Don't play it like that, Don't play it like that. JB: We said y'all defense. Motown: This the battery of Geek Control. K.Smooth: One JB: at the same time y'all Dak didn't score no more, put no prunts on the board. If y'all was up, I know the defense against Green Bear in playoffs. Against Green Bear, wasn't it in Dak twenty eight? K.Smooth: When? When? Against Green Bay? The second half he brought him back! Motown: Two years ago. JB: Then he put up twenty eight, what, twenty four points or something like that in in the first half against Green Bay. It was gonna one of those K.Smooth: and get, we talking about love or, love or, ride. JB: When w when love had a field day w on y'all. Motown: that was two years ago. Yeah, that two years ago. K.Smooth: Yeah, when they scored the point. Yeah, when they scored the point. Zag took JB: Yes, I wanna talk. K.Smooth: the points up in the second half. He had a big free pass. He took that points up in the second half. If the defense field didn't stop him. Motown: I don't know what happened, but one thing, y'all lost. JB: Okay. So we can put we can put a first in the first hand, that's what I'm trying to say. K.Smooth: Yeah, he didn't put a point to a Motown: And love had a game. K.Smooth: free pass. Motown: Yeah, I remember that. K.Smooth: When he put the points up, he brought it in the brain of the backhand second half. He still needed to stop from the defense. That man never fall in that bitch nigger wide open, bro. What you talking about? Troy: All right. JB: No deck play that game like somebody kidnapped this child. K.Smooth: The first half. JB: Picks it for the other people. K.Smooth: That was the first half. The end of the score. So you're saying that the way that clear JB: First half back first what K.Smooth: on the defense, that kind of defense, right? That kind of defense. Do that kind of Motown: I know one thing. Huh? Huh? Troy: Lost they lost, huh? They lost, huh? K.Smooth: defense. Motown: Yeah. Yeah. Troy: Alright, that's all that matters. They lost the game. K.Smooth: You can't do that. JB: Yeah. No, Dak don't play defense but he plays offense. Motown: But you know Cowboy fans, they not gonna listen. K.Smooth: So, gave him JB: He played defense but other K.Smooth: a seven. That gave him a seven. But Motown: Not gonna listen. K.Smooth: he gave up the other 30s at some point. JB: Well what what how many touchdowns Dak screwed? K.Smooth: The defense! JB: Okay, if Dak if Dak if Dak would have put up thirty one, y'all would have won. K.Smooth: That put about three times down. JB: What he did in first Motown: That's all. K.Smooth: And it's like a half Motown: I mean, K.Smooth: done. Motown: love it. I mean, love it. K.Smooth: I don't know, because they throw their ram. We couldn't stop the run. We couldn't stop the run either. We had Motown: You gotta match love. You gotta match love. You gotta match him. JB: Think I think look. K.Smooth: damn quick defense. We couldn't stop the run. We just was a passive defense. And when we in that game, JB: Yeah, I I think love's still scoring at this point right now. K.Smooth: them boys already said it. When we went in that game, damn quick, switched the defense to zone defense. We were playing man that whole, that was easy. And we switched the zone. Because Troy: Either. K.Smooth: he had got that job with that bitch ass. Motown: You ain't talking about that man, the whole why he got y'all level. Once y'all got it, they gonna put it on him. Stop that, man. That's a team loss, bro. That's a team loss. That's why, God don't like ugly. That's K.Smooth: The place is not within the plan. Yeah, they're in the team now. Troy: Right. Y'all wouldn't know y'all wouldn't know it it didn't pay the ref. Motown: why you about to get disconnected again. God don't like ugly. That's why you being disconnected again. You don't need to listen sometimes. Everybody trying to talk, you don't wanna listen. That's why you keep getting disconnected. You gotta listen sometimes. Now watch, you about to be gone, then we gonna be talking while you gone. Cowboy K.Smooth: That's y'all said you got dead quaint. That's y'all said you got dead quaint. What did quaint do? What did quaint do? Motown: fans, that's a typical cowboy fan, people. Typical. K.Smooth: Would that quite be? Motown: I can hear you, K.Smooth: We're back on it. Troy: But Why you worrying about Dan Quinn? We talking about Dak and them cowboys. Y'all lost, so it don't need much mess. K.Smooth: to dine with the defense of folks. Motown: Take some pressure off, take some pressure off. Troy: Yeah, our loss. JB: All right man. We're gonna take a quick commercial break and we're gonna come back and talk some NBA after this after these messages. Motown: You JB: Welcome back to Sports Talk with J B. I'm your host J B. And we're gonna switch from NFL to the NBA. Troy, let's start with you. Who was your thoughts on seeing LeBron go sign with the Philadelphia Eagles? Were you surprised or you like Motown: surprised It was a decision that we knew they were a candidate and what they had to offer him, it was a good decision for him to go there. I wasn't surprised about the decision. JB: Yeah. I'm w I'm with you on that one. I felt like that was out of all the teams he could have went to, Golden State was an older team. you look at Miami, Miami only had really, look at it, Giannis and Bam, he was still in the situ he that would have been a good situation. And by him going to Philly, I think that actually extended his career. He doesn't have to be trying to score twenty five, thirty points a game. He can just be he can go back to being when he played pern go in that one year when he averaged ten assists a game, just be a distributor, knowing to give it to everybody. So I think he's gonna make he's gonna make everybody game easy, but to me still the question is if B can stay healthy. If if Motown: Right, right. JB: B healthy, I I I I still see New York coming out the New York's still my team to to beat in the in the east in in the East. Motown: Would they have more physical? JB: Yeah. So that's that's my opinion. What you got, Troy? Troy: Man, you know how I feel about LeBron, man, ain't it? Terrible. What? I'm not a fan at all. Don't like him. I think he needs to go sit at home with his wife. And take and take Brian with him. Like K.Smooth: The hair got not. Troy: I like I JB: That's how you that's how you really look. Troy: you know I I really don't like that cat, bruh. He yeah, my thing is bro, you you've been in the what, Motown: What, you took your candy? Troy: twenty seven years? Twenty three? No, bruh, because he K.Smooth: What did he do? Motown: Hehehehehe Troy: first of all he cried too much. K.Smooth: Let him do it. Let me get it from somebody. Troy: Every year you gotta keep on going a different no, he JB: Okay, yeah. Troy: he's the biggest he is the biggest crowd, baby. But listen, but listen, no. Every Motown: Every team got a cryer, bro. Every team has a cryer. Just look at every team. God work. K.Smooth: Yeah, everybody got a problem with it, you know? Yeah. Troy: year he he need he gotta have the best team but still don't never, you know, don't really do shit. Well why? Motown: What's wrong with that? That's what everybody wants the best team. What do you mean, what? To win. What you talking about? K.Smooth: He's probably the best thing the women champions know. Troy: Come on, man. Motown: You're playing the game to win? You win. You want to win. K.Smooth: So you say Troy: Some moment. K.Smooth: OK, Motown: Bye. K.Smooth: see one day and have the best team. Motown: They put together a team, whether it's with good talent, superstar talent, or draft picks. They put together K.Smooth: You're a war. Motown: a team. So I don't understand the thing about why people are always talking about, LeBron Troy: Okay. Well Motown: did this, he built a team. Teams are always building, and that wasn't the K.Smooth: He's on his way to the S.A.I. He's not sure if he's ready. Motown: first time it was done. What about when Big Ticket did it? When they brought Ray Allen and Garnett to Boston. That was superstars, three of them. That was before LeBron. They don't talk about that. Same thing. K.Smooth: See, I got a perfect example. showed you that when he had his team. You can't win Troy: But listen. But listen. K.Smooth: with just regular players. You need a team. Alan Robinson showed you that. You need a team. Alan Robinson tried to do Troy: Well w K.Smooth: that shit. It didn't work. Troy: It went against it went against Shaq and Kobe. K.Smooth: They had a team, a super team. They had no regular team. Troy: Who who had a super team? K.Smooth: Thank you. Troy: Man, that was man, that was that K.Smooth: You Troy: wasn't a super team, man. So you had Shaq and Kobe. Motown: What was in the super tea? K.Smooth: And two of them came to the league with the Lakers. Two Motown: Hey superstar, what are you talking about? K.Smooth: of them, had a super team. They've been on a good team with the Lakers. Motown: Check, check with no superstar? K.Smooth: Nobody can stop me. Troy: I say they had Shaq and Kobe. K.Smooth: They ain't all they hate. Motown: Do you? K.Smooth: I'm Gary. Kiss you. And all the people, Troy: Jack and Colby. Motown: Okay. And both of them are superstars. K.Smooth: All the famous. Troy: Okay, but Motown: Yeah, they were superstars, but they got together. JB: so K.Smooth: You trippin'. You gotta have a fee to win the Troy: Okay man, come on, bro. K.Smooth: championship, period. You got to. Add an amplifier and it works. Motown: Just say, the Brian rubbed you the wrong way some kind of way and that's what it is, but don't diminish his playing games and his joining other players as a fault, because that's not a fault. It's across the board. Everybody does it, you know? K.Smooth: What y'all talking? JB: Series. Troy: No, not everybody, man. Y'all trip. Motown: The first thing with it Hold on one more thing Jay before you come in Jay one more thing two things people forget that when they put these people together Whether it's LeBron and Michael Jordan or Larry Bird and LeBron, whatever it is They winning superstar and they put them together two things they fail to realize First of all, they still got to play the game to win man together. They not giving no games So stop taking the credit away from they got to come together superstar. They still got to play together and win Understand that first before you start talking about bring super star together because they bring them together They don't mention you know when they don't win and they bring together they do mentioning with but they still got to play the game and you got to win the game to get to the championship JB: Yeah, agree. I Motown: to win a game JB: agree with you on that part, they gotta play together 'cause a a big example was the the Lakers when they had Gary Payton, Carl Malone, Kobe. K.Smooth: I'm now all peeped. Motown: Yeah, that was pretty much a superstar team. JB: it just couldn't Yeah, and they couldn't K.Smooth: Yeah! JB: can they couldn't can get it together. So T Troy, your question about LeBron. So you t to so for you, it's just more what he do off the court, or is it just I mean Troy: No, it's on the court. Yeah, I yeah. I don't K.Smooth: He's made Troy: know him personally. K.Smooth: practice money. Troy: Like I Motown: it. Troy: I'm over the on on the court. JB: What I'm saying is I mean I mean off the court I think he's one of the the greatest people in the world. I love what he do. But on the court I'm saying as far as like you don't like the again like the you say the the tech antics he do like the flopping the crying on the ground. Troy: Yeah, definitely. All that. JB: so that's the part that you don't like, but his game you take that out there, you you take Troy: really like his game. 'Cause everybody be talking about he got a bag. Dog he first of all he he got no handles. Like you ain't got no handles, like your shot is off, like his what? You you so you think he got handles? Motown: You sounding crazy, dude. You sounding crazy. K.Smooth: What is going on? You ran a point! You ran a point, son! Motown: You sounding crazy. Troy: He got he got handles. Motown: You really, he got some handles. You show it. He don't have those Stephen Curry handles. He don't have Stephen Curry handles, no, but he have handles. K.Smooth: He got enough handles. enough He's enough handles. handles. Troy: No, man. He don't K.Smooth: handles. Troy: have handles. Motown: He play point guard, dude. He play point. Troy: He ain't got no handles, dog. If you really if you really look at it, he ain't got no handles. Motown: Troy, I don't want to say it, but K.Smooth: Well, why they can't stop me? Motown: I gotta say it. You really sounded like a real, when I say this, take the words technically, you really sounded like a real LeBron K.Smooth: I hate you, I you, I hate you, I I hate you, Troy: Listen. Motown: hater. And that's it. That's it. K.Smooth: When he ate, Troy: Johnny, you think LeBron you think LeBron got handles? K.Smooth: he ate. Troy: Real shit. JB: I ain't gonna say he got he don't have hand K.Smooth: Not like, not like covered. JB: Yeah, he don't have those but he got enough to Motown: Okay. Troy: I'm not talk I'm not talking about no curry. I'm not talking about no point guard. JB: I'm a I'm I'm gonna put like Motown: You JB: this handle's a good Troy: Man ain't got no handle. Listen, that boy he man listen. JJ Reddick. That's all I gotta talk about, dog. Man, listen, Witcher Carlin was locking him down. Jason Kidd, come on man, like you got handles? Come on, man, that boy ain't got no handles, man. I probably got more handles than he got. K.Smooth: That's great. JB: think LeBron has a board like coming down, what do you call it down at you? 'Cause Troy: Downhill, like his speed, his body w going towards the co that's all he can do. Other than that, come on man, that boy ain't got no look away. Motown: So he can't shoot threes? Troy: That boy is terrible, man. JB: He wanted to my greatest passes. K.Smooth: My goodness. You know what he's talking about, fear or Mr. Troy: Listen, K.Smooth: Trapper Double? Troy: bruh. Motown: See, bro, LeBron is a lot of things Troy: Lesson. Motown: in the NBA, bro, a lot. Yeah, real talk. Troy: Listen, Johnny K.Smooth: What the hell is he talking about? Troy: know, Johnny know me and him talk about this all the time. He knows. JB: That's the only thing I don't like about again. I y'all say a lot of people flop and and whine, but he does a lot of it. That's the only thing I don't like. If you if you take that out, I know you can't say that's the only thing I K.Smooth: Yeah, you do that. You do. JB: don't like. But the thing is, a lot of people don't realize. I when I was used to go to a lot of the Pelican games when I was in New Orleans, you'd be surprised at the amount of players that do it, but they don't show it on camera. I was K.Smooth: Right. Everybody do it. JB: like I was like, damn, that motherfucker, all you do is wine off the camera. K.Smooth: It's part of the game. It's part of the game. It's part of the game. JB: But that's that's the only thing I can K.Smooth: It's part of the game, It ain't there. Take a bite of it. When he came into the league, he had to learn how to do it. He went home before he came into the league. He learned from somebody. JB: But I had to get I had to get Joe opinion on now. I knew he was Yah got the light. Y'all got the light version, boy, I'm tell But with Joy go in on the how you feel Motown: what? what? Troy: Listen. Listen. I don't JB: about LeBron so he I keep trying not to get he trying not getting Motown: I'm gonna tell you something, J, before this is over with, you're gonna be saying, y'all gonna think that, cause I know K.Smooth: you Motown: it's about to come up, y'all gonna think that I am a LeBron James fan. And listen to me when I say this before we get deep into the conversation about LeBron James, I'm just being JB: Okay. Motown: fair. I'm not a fan, but y'all gonna make me sound like I'm a fan because I'm bringing out the truth and all the truth is like y'all can't handle it, whoever's opposing, can't handle it, cause it be real, like, you don't know about this, well what about that? And they gonna throw Michael Jordan in there, and when they throw Michael Jordan in there, you- Let's go ahead. I'ma sound like a LeBron James fan, but I'm not a LeBron James Troy: Dog, but listen, but listen. But listen, K.Smooth: I'll see you the next video. Motown: fan. Troy: but listen, Eric. Y'all y'all JB: This is a rule for Troy: always wanna talk about LeBron towards Michael Jordan. he can't even feel Kobe shoes. Motown: Hey, like I said, LeBron James is a lot of things K.Smooth: anything. Motown: in the NBA, bro, a lot. Troy: So so so you saying is Leb you saying it's Michael Jordan LeBron? Motown: You want me to answer it right now? K.Smooth: See you all. JB: No. We're Troy: I I I want you to answer that right now. JB: gonna we're gonna get to that. Just hold it, just hold out one. K.Smooth: You can go back there. JB: Yeah, that one. K.Smooth: You Motown: I'm about to tear it down, baby. JB: Yeah, that's all L. So who do you are that's the man, I love that. I love it. I love this little K.Smooth: Thank you. Troy: Say bro, you should you should stop bringing that question up, bruh. JB: I that's what I Exactly People Motown: No, that's a great question. Yes, it is. Troy: No, it ain't. K.Smooth: from the broad first. JB: ever see the thing is I like about it that everybody got a different opinion on LeBron. So Motown: Right. Right. JB: no I love it that everybody like MJ, MJ, MJ, MJ. So you some like somebody like Smooth I think Smooth's about to say he'll he'll he'll he more of a a LeBron fan than Jordan. I think that's what he's about to say, but like I said, we can say K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: that one. But I I like everybody got their opinion on him. So that's that's You got you gotta bring up you gotta bring up I know I noticed when these podcast shows and watching sports, you gotta bring up the cowboys and LeBron. K.Smooth: Ha ha! JB: If you don't bring them up, the show ain't right. K.Smooth: Hey cowboy three. That's why I told you I don't like it. That's why I told you don't like it. Motown: We can find another topic besides the dial of cowgirls, bruh. I promise you, bruh. I promise you, bruh. I promise you, bruh. We can talk about sex K.Smooth: That's why it's called All Right. Motown: before the cowboys, bruh. And I guarantee you, we all enjoy talking about sex before the cowboys, bruh. JB: That's the Q MBA. So next K.Smooth: You what they do with these Motown: Hate some things, K.Smooth: tablecloths here? They do with the tablecloth chain on, talking Motown: bruh. You hear me, T. Brown? I hate some things. K.Smooth: all that shit. Get that tablecloth off, man. JB: So Motown: Jay, Jay, I hate some things, but I just hate some things. K.Smooth: to get your job done next. JB: I didn't mean to bring up the bring up the Cowboys. Motown: Hate some things. JB: So y'all think if let's say if if if if Philly don't win it K.Smooth: the government. JB: a disappointment for for for LeBron like I K.Smooth: But. JB: know legacy has sealed already. So I'm not gonna even say bring that question up no more about his legacy. But you think it's a failure for him. K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: If Philly don't get to the easy at least get to the K.Smooth: When? JB: Eastern Conference. K.Smooth: Yeah, it would be. But it's all on me. JB: I don't see I don't see nobody in the K.Smooth: It's all in the bead though. JB: Yeah. K.Smooth: You know what saying? It's all in the bead. Like you said, he don't be healthy anymore. Every time, play all the time, he's the no-shit. And every time, JB: Mm-hmm. K.Smooth: Brian, like when he was with the Lakers, where was Don? Don, Luke, Luke, Luke, was, he was hurt. His one or two punches hurt. He had to plead by himself last year. But Luke and Don was hurt. You dig what I'm saying? So now, JB: Right. Yeah. K.Smooth: He on better team. Man, I can see him getting it. If it be could be healthy. For the playoffs. JB: That's that's what I got on that one. Troy: So y so y'all so you saying so you saying if if emp is healthy, feel like win. K.Smooth: Yeah! JB: Thanks so. Troy: So what about what about Max and and Brown? So y'all don't think like they can do anything? JB: No. K.Smooth: Not by yourself. JB: Nah. I don't I I don't think so. Yeah I I Troy: So you're saying LeBron, Maxie and and Brown, them three. JB: No. No. K.Smooth: They can't do it by themselves. Troy: Come on, man. Motown: I said this, I said this, I said, I think they could do it. But I think they could do it. K.Smooth: They're gonna need a standard. You need a big man. You need a big man. Motown: But the key thing is, who do they have? Wait, Troy: But hold up! But hold up, dude. Motown: listen, who do they have as the back of center? That's what I think. They could do it whoever's the back of center. Is that a good candidate to come in and give you 10 points, like 10 rebounds, if needed, whether it be healthy or not. So if they don't have a back of center that's gonna come in and Troy: Behold up, behold. And be K.Smooth: But he didn't have to do all of Motown: play good, then it's hard. Troy: But listen, Embiid is not he ain't down in no post. He ain't trying to get rebounds like that. Motown: No, he will be with LeBron. JB: Right. Motown: He gonna have to be more with LeBron. He not much more, but more. He will. JB: His presence I'm gonna tell you, that's what it is. His presence alone. Okay, even B healthy, let's say he playing against the Knicks. Call Thomas or who el call Thomas call Anthony Tow Thompson gotta come out. He can't stay in that lane. But they play against the Spurs. Wimby gotta come out. Troy: But listen, I understand that. But listen, the whole thing is again. And B don't be on the boards like that. JB: You do. He getting he's these days a lot of K.Smooth: Yeah you do. JB: play on Troy: What w what what is what is what is Motown: Keep it good. Troy: he averaging on on board? JB: Not a lot of players, you you barely got players that average over ten rebounds again these days. Motown: 10, 10, yeah. K.Smooth: You bow. Motown: He probably get 10 to 12. JB: And also we gotta look at B gonna get you about four to five assists a game too. He's a good passer at times. K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: And he's gonna presence alone rebound. Troy: Listen, I I like him be. Don't get me wrong, I like him be, but he just don't be helping. K.Smooth: All right. JB: So you saying you see Motown: Yeah, that's why I say the center, the backup center is important. That's why I said that the backup center is important. Whoever they have as a backup center is going to have to be relied on to give them 10 points, 10 rebounds whenever they need it, whether it be it's healthy or not. And if they don't have a backup center that can give them any points, then they're not going to do anything because you're not going to get all your points from Brown. He's going to submit some to LeBron and you're not going to get it from Max because he's already been submitted because that's LeBron. So you got to think and be is the one position that probably couldn't, don't have to submit to him because of his position he played. So he can score more points. But that back of Troy: But MB and B don't play his back to the him. Motown: center, if Embiid is out, if he can't give you no points. Troy: Listen, but MB don't play it on his back to the or basket like that? Motown: I know, but he can shoot threes and he can bring it to the hole. He can bring it to the hole. K.Smooth: Let me you a question. Let me ask you something. Let me ask you a JB: Man, not just the back to back. Who plays back to back? Motown: Nobody. Troy: No bather. JB: Thank you. So th you keep saying he's playing back to back, but again his presence on the field, on a on the court, that's the that's the thing. You I just don't see them Knicks. Motown: Yes. Do you think he Troy: Mad to see that. Motown: got handles? K.Smooth: It's done. Motown: and be. Troy: May no Motown: Man, he can take a dude off the dribble, man. You trippin'. And B, he can take somebody off the dribble. He can take him off the dribble. You trippin', bro. You is trippin'. K.Smooth: So if a bean is healthy, so wait, yeah, he done it JB: Yeah. Troy: Mom man. JB: Need them. K.Smooth: before. Say, if a bean is healthy, if a bean is healthy through the whole season, JB: Yeah, and before he actually K.Smooth: you take a one champ shit with him healthy. Troy: We gotta see. Listen, bruh, they got some other p you know to other teams. That's not bad, bruh. You know, then you got you got New York, bruh, like they ain't no they ain't no pushover, you know, so JB: New Motown: And you still, we JB: York Motown: still have Detroit, that's my team, but we didn't do any improvement in free agency. So I can't put us up there. We're not up there because we didn't prove it. needed a three point shooter and we needed a big man and we didn't do any of that. So we, I put us behind Boston. K.Smooth: Also, what would be possible? Hypothetically speaking, what would be possible? I was saying hypothetically speaking, I'm just saying you think they can win one with that roster they got. If everybody help, Troy: I don't know. K.Smooth: you don't know. Motown: Yeah, I do. I do. I do. JB: Yeah, if if they're healthy, yeah. K.Smooth: Please. Troy: I remember. K.Smooth: I believe Motown: think New K.Smooth: so. Motown: York could be more physical with them, but I think with them bringing in the Brian, they're going to be more strategic and smarter against the Knicks. But I think the Knicks will play them more physical, but I think they could still win it. K.Smooth: Yeah. Motown: yeah, I do. Absolutely. JB: Yeah. That's what I K.Smooth: I don't know saying. JB: got I got Yeah, if they're healthy, even I think if a B seventy percent I still think they can win it. Again his presence, K.Smooth: Uh-huh. JB: but until somebody detroned the the Knicks gonna be I think they're gonna get. Motown: I agree. K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: but one thing we won an NBA, I I actually think to me, tell me what y'all think on this one. If the Spurs had a per a true furniture, you think they'd have been the champs? But they had Troy: No, they they was too soft. K.Smooth: I messed up man. think they could have. Cause they couldn't stop your boy. They couldn't stop. Troy: There was too song. Motown: I do. I do. I do. Did I wear a Lebron ago there? JB: I I think if this Yeah, he I'm thinking if they had somebody like a a Chris Paul, somebody can slow it 'cause they was up every game. I'm talking twenty son, twenty-nine perns. They had nobody K.Smooth: Yeah, JB: Nobody they had was able to slow the ball down or say you go here, you go there. They needed a true Motown: But the coaching didn't adjust. The coaching didn't adjust in that point. Because when you start losing points, you got to adjust now. And the coach didn't adjust well. The first time you saw it, you didn't adjust. Then the second time, the second game, same thing. Then the third time, you ain't adjusting, the same thing is happening in each game. You haven't did anything to make it better. It's like you planned for that to happen and let it go. I put that on the coach, and he didn't make no major adjustments to change that every game. JB: Yeah. And know what I hate about this league? They came back from twenty nine points. All they did was shoot threes. They didn't even go back to getting Wimpy. I know Wimpy K.Smooth: Yeah, that's total fault. We've got to make them slow that down. Troy: But but that's the lead now. JB: Right. I I know Wimpy only went ninety pounds, but they didn't even get him in a post to do a hook or some kind of shot. Troy: But listen, but that's that's the way the lead is. Now everybody wanna shoot the ball. So K.Smooth: They won't have to sue. Motown: And coach didn't adjust, mean, he didn't adjust. K.Smooth: I hate that. Motown: They had players on the bench, could have, it was just, man, that was a mess. That was a mess. That was a mess. JB: Yeah, I I think Hopper could have K.Smooth: I hate it. Motown: But I did want to see LeBron go to San Antonio. Yeah, I did. You him go build a team over there T Brown? Troy: I see that. JB: But it's been K.Smooth: Well, that would have been a lot of comp. That would have a lot of comp right there. Troy: But all right, but they d if they d if LeBron would have went there they'd probably lose some players too. So you know K.Smooth: But it would have lost them. Troy: you know that's how he roll. Wherever you go, he gotta, you know, get Motown: Disappoint. Troy: people away from him. K.Smooth: Mm-hmm. JB: Yeah, that's true. Troy: So JB: So let's move on to this next topic I got. K.Smooth: But no, the Brian didn't get traded. He didn't get traded. Yeah, he didn't get traded. Motown: Now here's a free agent this year. Here's a free agent. JB: Yeah, that's true. K.Smooth: He couldn't work there. Yeah, he wouldn't. Now you get traded, you got to pay somebody. Yeah, he don't get somebody. Man, all the work done good, yeah, the point go. The point go, gone go. Troy: That that's what I'm saying, but Motown: It's still somebody gonna lose a spot. Yeah. Somebody gonna lose a spot still to bring the brine home. Somebody dropping to the practice squad or somewhere. Yeah, somebody gonna fall. Troy: Somebody gonna lose out on, you know what I'm saying, him coming there. K.Smooth: The point go, gone go. You lost the game, you don't. Motown: I don't know who they gonna get rid of, or how they gonna do it. JB: I think David my They K.Smooth: The Play God! JB: had a Pern Guard. Exactly. They had a good Pern guard man. 'Cause Fox Exactly, Fox played like he played K.Smooth: You lost the game. You go. Get out of here. Motown: we talking about Andre Pax? JB: Yeah, he played horrible. Motown: Bruh, say bruh, I've never, now look, this is what I was saying, check this out before I gotta tell you this, this is what I was saying about Deandre Foxx, he was supposed to be the veteran on the team when they brought him there because the oldest player on the team K.Smooth: in Motown: was Bianbi, he'd been there. He K.Smooth: Yeah. Motown: was the next guy that had the most years played and was considered to be a leader for the team. Your veteranship, your leadership, K.Smooth: Thank Motown: we want you to help with these guys, leaders too, and for you to get the ball and bounce it. and not run a clock out. Nobody around you, you can still just run and you try to make a shot at Miss. You not showing no leadership of the team. I want you on buddy. He gone. He gone. K.Smooth: What do you think about? Motown: He gone. That's easy replacement. K.Smooth: Here today like Cowboy, dead Trish on hold. Muffle that punch, you what? You got to the neck. Motown: I don't sorry it happened, I mean, you never seen LeBron do that? Michael Jordan, Pippen? You never seen Stockton? Nobody would, none of them boys would did nothing like that, Not, nothing close to that. So. That's my view on him. And I mean, that's just my view. think he's gone. Huh? K.Smooth: I'd avenge them for the rest of the city. Motown: That was the series. K.Smooth: I thought there was a third win. Motown: That was the series. K.Smooth: They had another game after that one. Motown: It didn't matter still. That game was won. They had won that game. That game was over. K.Smooth: You right. You right. Motown: Yeah! JB: Let's move on to this K.Smooth: Right, right. JB: next topic I got. I got this next one called I got five on it. Give me give me we're gonna we're gonna start with you S go with E. We're gonna save you Troy. Let's let's give me your top five MB NBA of all time players. No positions, just top five. You don't mean no no K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: number or one for five wherever we K.Smooth: Damn. JB: We can go too smooth. K.Smooth: Me? All right. Troy: Okay. K.Smooth: I'll go with, gotta have my dog, E.I. You understand? JB: Mm-hmm. K.Smooth: I have, course the Brian I like, I like, I like piffin'. My point guard would be probably Garnet. My point guard is Siller. I think Elijah is one the best sons I've ever seen. Motown: you JB: You got Troy? K.Smooth: This door, that door is mine. But you got to see. Troy: You know, Jordan Colby. Yeah. Chuck. Steph Curry, K.Smooth: Yeah. Troy: man. Motown: step. I can hear you. K.Smooth: That's Troy: Shack Tim Dunk. K.Smooth: Wow. JB: James and yours? Troy: Man, you know that boy not no top five, man. not in my top five, man. Listen, I put I put Carmelo Anthony over LeBron, man. Come on, man. Come on, dude. JB: Wait. Troy: Like he's JB: So Troy: not in my top five, K.Smooth: Which we are in today. Troy: dog. JB: so wait, Troy we're gonna give one more chance to do that again. He probably he probably was tired from work. K.Smooth: What? Motown: This JB: Well you're a bright. Troy: LeBron is not in K.Smooth: Okay. Troy: my top five. JB: No no King James, no coat. Troy: No, not at all. K.Smooth: See you later. Troy: No. No. K.Smooth: It's that nonsense there. Motown: Yeah! Yeah! Troy: No. It's not my top five, bro. K.Smooth: He got both of you in the room. He got service. Troy: Listen, listen. Again. K.Smooth: We got Donklin is Shaq. Troy: He's he's you you can't you can't put him over Kobe. And I don't understand why they do that. Like, I don't man, it's always gonna be Jordan and Colby. That's one and two. Come on, man. Huh? K.Smooth: You like eight times, you back to back. That's why. JB: Yeah. Troy: And guess what he did? He lost. K.Smooth: Dang. Not all of them. JB: But Troy: He laughs too. JB: so I gotta ask this I know you say you put Mellow K.Smooth: It's to grow nine up. It's hard to grow them. JB: How many how many mellow got went to? Troy: It don't matter. Mello is K.Smooth: it don't map. Troy: a better K.Smooth: How it don't map? Troy: ball player than him. K.Smooth: my goodness. This here don't have. Troy: He's a better a better ball player than him. K.Smooth: Where was it? Troy: It don't matter. Steph got him and Steph got the same amount of ring. And then the thing is, all right, people always want to talk about LeBron's legacy and all this. But everybody was eating in his era, too. Everybody ate in his era. Who didn't eat in his era? Everybody. You only won four championships. You went there about 12 times, you only won four times. Everybody else didn't ate in there. So JB: So if he get these two if he went to these next two championships he's in your top Troy: For w Dow no, he would never be in my top top and he ain't be top nothing. K.Smooth: You can't fool me, you can't fool me, I'm a mind made up. Troy: He would not he won't be he already JB: So so so he won't be your girl. Troy: know he already know this. That's why he keep on putting JB: No. Troy: me in on the you notice already. JB: No, I'm just trying to see what can be Troy: Yeah, he yeah, look, that's why he came on and said, Come on, Troy enough. Man, he already know. He know. Yeah. Motown: Probably gave you enough chances, you didn't even do it JB: Yeah. Yeah, 'cause K.Smooth: Okay. Motown: yourself. JB: we I'm trying to see if he win two more championships, would that make him your goat over? So Troy: Not at all. Not at all. No, he man, he would never be a goat. K.Smooth: And I will get no love. I will get no love. Troy: The goat mean listen, the goat mean greatest of all time. He ain't gone he ain't need much there. JB: All Joe, I'm gonna give this a chance. All right. Will we take look let's take Jordan off of it? W would he jump he jump Steph? Troy: No no, because himself got the same mal ring. JB: He went six to mode. Troy: Man, he's not gonna win any more. I mean it come on, bro. He's not gonna win no more. K.Smooth: Why you ain't? JB: My K.Smooth: Why you ain't? JB: last question for you. Wait, wait, wait. Troy: Yahware. JB: What if he what if he in this what if he in this in that in that lab and he come back with handles this season? Would that help out? Yeah, it Troy: Hey, listen, you ever saw the video with him and Elijah? When or he was trying how terrible was that? K.Smooth: Is that him? Troy: And so you think you're gonna get what ooh Huh? JB: But he can get handles now. He worked with our mag Troy: Man, that boy can't get no handles, man. Yo, you forty he forty one years old. Ain't no handles. K.Smooth: Yeah. What a loser. JB: So that's that's the only that's the only thing about Troy: Come on, man. He he's done. JB: your goat debate 'cause he Motown: So. JB: don't have the handles. That's the only thing. Troy: Man, no, bruh, he he's a terrible player. I don't like a cat, duh. K.Smooth: You are like, don't do that, know. Don't do that, know. Motown: You didn't even sound right saying that, man. You really didn't. Troy: Who? Motown: You didn't sound right saying that. like you didn't K.Smooth: I don't want to. Motown: even want to say Troy: sí Motown: it. You just didn't sound right. K.Smooth: You know. Motown: Stop, Just stop. Can I tell you my top line, JB: All right. Troy: Man said Jordan ain't have handles. Man say Jordan ain't have handles. Make you K.Smooth: not like you think. Motown: Listen to my top out there. Troy: better stop that, bruh. Motown: So JB: Wait, what do you mean? Motown: you saying it could be Troy: Go ahead, Koei. Motown: all sinners, could be all powerful, it could be just my top five. JB: Papa, Romeo. Motown: All right, so no particular order. Jordan's in there, LeBron's in there, Magic Johnson's in there, Bill Russell. Troy: Man, why are you putting Bill up in that dog? Bill, alright, cuz that was your error. My bad. My bad. That was your error. My bad. That was your error, my bad, cuz. My bad. That was your error. My bad. I apologize for that, Eve. Go ahead, man. K.Smooth: Wow, you did do that, man! You let him feel it! You let him feel it! Motown: First of all, you all be talking about champions. We JB: But K.Smooth: man. Motown: be talking about champions with rings. He has 11. Troy: Mm-hmm. Motown: He has 11 championships, 11. Okay? All right. So how K.Smooth: man. Troy: All right, listen, listen, what listen with that? Motown: are you gonna dismiss anybody because you didn't see him? That's the thing about when you debate about the greatest of all time. If you don't know about somebody, Troy: My bad, 'cause that was listen, th that was your error. Motown: then why are you knocking on them? You know what I'm saying? K.Smooth: Boy, I got to be proud of you, bro. Troy: You so you s y you saw when you first got in the lead, huh? Motown: Do it. Troy: You saw him when you first got in the lead, huh? My bad, bro. I apologize. Motown: Say, man, my fifth one, My fifth selection is always an up-and-the-air one, bro. It's so hard for me to get the fifth one because it could be Tim Duncan, it could be Kobe, it could be... K.Smooth: It's it's a result of print. Motown: I want to say I want to say Isaiah Thomas badge of motherfucker. I really do but I can't I Can't he's not he's not though. He's not he's not he's JB: So if Motown: not he's not and K.Smooth: Nobody can tell me that this is your top lie. JB: Right, it's your top man. Who don't worry K.Smooth: This is your top lie. This is your top lie. Motown: But he's not. JB: about it, but Motown: He's not my top five though. He's not. I want to put him in there, but he's not my top five. I'm going say between Kobe and K.Smooth: Do your best, Motown: Tim Duncan. K.Smooth: So who you're talking about, you need, where you're going. JB: That's a Motown: I don't have to have a point guy. said, this is my top five. You heard me? K.Smooth: I would do that. I would do that. JB: think I might have I'ma go of course MJ, Troy Dog and Brian, gotta go Tim Duncan, I'ma go Shaq. Woof, that last one. I gotta put my dog Scotty in it. That's just me. That's my favorite play of all time. K.Smooth: I like Sky. Sky got all the wrong games. Motown: You're all right, Troy Brown. K.Smooth: I'm the man in the dark. JB: So you sure you wanna put LeBron? Motown: You'll regret it. Troy: Listen, say Brian K.Smooth: Right? Troy: Listen, LeBron ain't in my top nothing. JB: What's the Motown: told you earlier, you really sound like a true, real LeBron James hater. For real. You an example of that person. Troy: Listen listen Sa what you want Say what you want bruh but he's not in my top Motown: Do you know this guy? Every team he played on, he won a championship? Jordan didn't do that. Troy: Listen. Motown: can hear K.Smooth: Thank Motown: you, Brown. I cannot Troy: It's a Motown: hear you. Troy: map. JB: Well, you saying because let's 'cause he played with all these Hall of Famers, few some few couple of future Hall of Famers. So you think that's Troy: Listen, he all right, so listen, for for me it's more because Every team that he be on, right? He then went to the championship. Like when he was in Cleveland. I ain't got enough help, right? But you went to the championship with these players. But every year you say, I ain't got enough, right? Then you go get enough. And when you don't win, you still say, I ain't got enough. On every team, right? Motown: You don't think Jordan did that? Until he got his team? He was getting rid of players. He was getting centers Troy: Will we? K.Smooth: Yeah. Motown: every year. He was getting a new center. What are you talking about? K.Smooth: He almost got Detroit whole team almost. Troy: All right. But Motown: What are you talking about? Troy: what was he was any of these players in the top any was they in the top anything? K.Smooth: Yeah. Yes. Motown: Do you really want me to answer that question? When Dennis Rodman went there, what was Dennis Rodman? When Dennis Rodman went there, what was Dennis Rodman? Troy: Who? Who was top? Then he was getting mad lesson. K.Smooth: I'm not a friend. Motown: A champion already. Troy: Okay, but we talking Dennis Rodman. Hold on, K.Smooth: Patty Pitman, all the fame. Horace Brink, all the fame. Motown: You said anybody, that's a superstar. Troy: listen, listen, listen, listen. Horace Grand and K.Smooth: So and it couldn't fall. Troy: Horace Grand ain't gonna be no Hall of Famer, boy. Stop that. Stop that. And Horace Grant ain't no Hall of Famer. K.Smooth: What? Be my champion, be my champion, what we're Motown: I think he will, I think he will, I think he will. K.Smooth: doing. about? Why they joining and let them go? Motown: I think he will. K.Smooth: They Troy: He won't K.Smooth: don't know nothing that they're going to with. Troy: He left. He went to Orlando. He went to Orlando. K.Smooth: That was after you got the killing Motown: Yeah, he K.Smooth: sip. Motown: did. Troy: Listen, again, Horace Grant ain't gonna be no Hall K.Smooth: I'm getting dead sick. Troy: of Famer for nobody. Listen. Man, y'all trippin'. Man, neck next question, Motown: Chip and Toy Brown. K.Smooth: I guess you thought it was ball. You think hard drive went ball? Troy: huh? JB: the next top five. Gimme I love this man. Troy: Yeah, go to the next. JB: Gimme our top gimme our top five quarterback, greatest quarterbacks of all time. That's the Motown: Mmm-hmm. Troy: Go ahead, Eric. Go ahead, Eric. K.Smooth: All Motown: John Brady is the GOAT. Yo Montana. Peyton Manning. See, I can incorporate that y'all don't know about, man. But they were really good, dude. yeah. Troy: Back w back in his error. Motown: Doug Williams, you heard me. Troy: He won't he wanna see he won't see Terry Brancher. He won't see you wanna see Terry Brancher, Bas Clair K.Smooth: Don't call them little helmet boys, You say, Jim Brown. Jim Brown. Jim Brown, you Motown: Who? K.Smooth: know what this is. Motown: Terry Brascia is one. Terry Brascia is one. Troy: Look, that's your error. I understand, bro. I get it. I do it. Motown: Yeah, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Doug Williams, JB: Paid Manny Paid Manny. Motown: and Peyton Manning. K.Smooth: Oz man, no Oz man, I told you like Oz man. Motown: We're with the mayonnaise. We're done with the mayonnaise. K.Smooth: you JB: What's your top five smooth? K.Smooth: man. Stop. Motown: Robo. K.Smooth: my. my. Nah. Or they're gonna be in that door. So I'm gonna say. Motown: I already know. K.Smooth: Still my turn. John Hellwee. Wow. Michael Vick. The egg press guy. We got one more. Who's that? Motown: Yeah, I think it do you say Montana Prescott. Michael Vic. K.Smooth: Hmm. JB: John L. Yeah. K.Smooth: you in that way I'm missing one guess it be guess it be I get so unbridled because he is so unbridled JB: Right. What you got, Troy? Troy: So I got Tom Brady, Steve Young. Rogers. I got Peyton. I'm gonna put breeze in there. JB: Let's see what I got. K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: Tom Brady is my goat. Montana. Michael Breeze. Aaron Rodgers. Now I wanna put I wanna put Mahome in there but to me he's still writing his his legacy. Mahomes gonna be in there probably when career's over. But that's the only reason why I didn't put Mahomes in there in mind. I think he got some K.Smooth: Okay. Troy: But you know who else you gotta look at? B Big Ben. Big JB: Yeah. Troy: Ben ain't you know I'm saying? You gotta you know, add his name to the list too then. JB: Yeah, he'd be my I think he'd be my K.Smooth: I they had a lot of good ones. I mean, it's just hard to think about this fire. It's hard. Motown: I used to like to watch Philip Rivers play. K.Smooth: I was gonna do that right. Motown: I'd like to watch Philip Rivers play a game. He brought some excitement to the game. JB: Yeah. But Troy: Then a beginner. K.Smooth: and we'll be well. JB: damn marino Motown: Damnit, Reno. K.Smooth: I like damn Rico. JB: I know we say airway are K.Smooth: Yeah. Yeah, I how it works. JB: So we c it we left out like that's a lot of yeah, I thought about that. Motown: Hey, boy moon. Boy moon. K.Smooth: Yep. One more. I even like random cutting JB: It's it's a it's a lot of K.Smooth: hair. Random cutting hair was real good. JB: Yeah. Motown: Yeah. JB: So yeah, that's a lot we could have put in there. All right. Give me your top five receivers of all time. Troy: Very smooth. JB: Stop with you, K.Smooth: yeah. JB: Shaw. You you go first. Troy: so I'm gonna go Jerry, T O Randy. Fitzgerald Megatron. Motown: that's nice. That's nice. JB: That's my that's my that's my Zach. That's my Zach Five. Ga. Motown: I got Jerry. I got Art Monk. I have a... Troy: Why this dude had people back in his era? K.Smooth: Thank Troy: We who is that person, bro? Motown: Look it up. Jerry, Art Munk. K.Smooth: You're the only one. Troy: Man always going people back in the 60s, bruh. I understand that's when you was born. Come on, bruh. Damn. Motown: Jerry, Art Buck, Randy Muggs. JB: Hold up, you wait way. K.Smooth: It's so cool. JB: You are expecting the leather hammer. K.Smooth: He said, don't go that far back. Don't go that far back, Troy: with the end of my crowd. JB: dudes play them dudes K.Smooth: E. JB: play ball too, but you got the hammers, right? K.Smooth: Yeah, this is a bad deal. Troy: When they had that one when they had that one one stripe for K.Smooth: man. Troy: the face mask, huh? Motown: know, that was in the habit of K.Smooth: But Motown: you had chest strap. JB: Go ahead. Go ahead. Motown: Man, I forgot my top five message with y'all, No, Jerry. K.Smooth: You said yeah. JB: Yeah. Motown: Art Monk, I can't forget Art Monk. Randy Moss, of course. Troy: Matter looking money. Motown: Tio, he was exciting to watch, no matter where he played at. Get your popcorn, yeah. And... Maybe try and fix Joe with some good ones. JB: Yeah. K.Smooth: Hmm. Motown: Chris Carter with some hands. Chris Carter with some hands. K.Smooth: yeah. That's a nice one. That's a nice one. JB: Yeah, that's good. K.Smooth: Everybody else, say right. Motown: See you K.Smooth: So I made my receiving game on Jerry Wright. Jerry Wright. That's Troy: Michael Irvin, Michael Irving, Des Bryn. K.Smooth: right. You live across that middle. Who else? Troy: City Lamb, City Lamb. K.Smooth: We got the best, I ain't gonna say that. I said Jerry Rice Michael Irvin. I like the, it's a lot of them. man, I'll random mouse. I'll Motown: Thank you. K.Smooth: say random mouse too. I like, I like, I like, I the Harrison. I like the Harrison. Motown: Mm-hmm. JB: Six. K.Smooth: One more. I got a. JB: Yeah, one more. K.Smooth: See you. See you. Troy: Now how you put to your last, bruh? Come on, bruh. K.Smooth: He ain't got a beard in that order. That's what I'm talking about. He ain't saying no JB: Good, good. Motown: I wouldn't K.Smooth: order. He just say who Troy: That boy said that boy said that boy said Ark Monk, man, I gotta see who that is, dawg. Motown: Yeah, you better come up. Troy: What what ye he what year he played, yo? What he played in sixty five or seven? Motown: He's in the 80s, bro. K.Smooth: And Troy: Man, come on, bro. He had to be Motown: in. Troy: like in the seventies. K.Smooth: He brought it like 70 now. JB: Yeah, right. Motown: Let me tell you Jerry Rice broke his record. Jerry Rice broke his record. You hear me? Jerry Rice broke his records. Troy: Start. K.Smooth: Yeah, he ordered a Jarrah. Motown: Get your mind right. K.Smooth: The day is on. JB: Say E wasn't it the Posse, Ogmonk, Ricky Sanders and Motown: and Gary Clark. K.Smooth: Yeah, it was Sanders. It was good. And it was good. JB: Man. I got I got one more last one for y'all, man. give me your top five running back. Motown: That's so easy for me. JB: Well you go. K.Smooth: I know Troy: Go K.Smooth: it. You always did. That young guy, my two of them. Troy: ahead. Go first then. I'm gonna say Jim Brown, Jim Brown, OJ Simpson Motown: Huh? No. JB: Yeah. Yeah me. Random. Motown: I got, I got Barry Sanders. K.Smooth: He's gonna go to name it fullback. Troy: Way K.Smooth: He gonna name it fullback. Motown: Water painting. JB: Barisale is well to beaton. Motown: Hershel Walker Troy: so. Motown: liked this guy when he played, he was just work done, work done, man. That dude was a good guy to watch play football. JB: Jesus. K.Smooth: you Troy: Who's car Motown: What a new said Jesus. JB: You watch me. Motown: Come on, And right now, it's Derek Henry. JB: Very good. What do you got you? Troy: I got I got L T. I got L K.Smooth: Okay. Troy: T. I got Shit. Well, I can't think. K.Smooth: Thank Troy: Can't think. Come back come back to me. Let me let me think on it. Motown: Give me a second. JB: You ready to? Troy: What you got, Smooth? K.Smooth: Like that. Troy: L T I got L T Martial Fark Mm. I got Deuce McAllister. JB: Lap. Troy: I got The maul child and JB: I'm on. Troy: I got Chris Jarrison. JB: Nice one. K.Smooth: Anything? Troy: I bet. A P. I gotta put A P in there. I gotta take JB: Yeah, I'm hard to Troy: one somebody off and destroy A P in there. K.Smooth: I got Emmett. Diamond Times. Motown: Eww. K.Smooth: Well, some will. what the pig Error Dix Motown: Boom! JB: nice that's a nice pop. Barry Sanders, Marshall Folk, L T A P. Ooh, that last one probably be Troy: Aye. K.Smooth: I hate boss, I hate credit. Is it Willem Mayne? Troy: Ha ha. Motown: You K.Smooth: Willem Mayne, baby! Troy: you honor you. K.Smooth: Down here. JB: I wanna say Emmett Smith. That'll be that'd be mine's. Alex for Emmett on it. Motown: change Boston Park with Lord Dunn. I'm going to change that. JB: Yeah, I was wondering why you said War. I know he built some housing back K.Smooth: Okay, yeah, I was Motown: No, K.Smooth: like, dang. Motown: really hated to watch that guy play, but he played good, dude, for real. Word up. You can't... Yeah, boy, that boy had some moves, K.Smooth: like one day. He was alright though. He was alright. JB: Attends j'ai Troy: Well I th Motown: bro. K.Smooth: He was alright. He was just a bum all day. JB: Well Plans. Troy: I thought he was gonna say I thought he was gonna say O J Simpson. Motown: You know what man, I wanted to say Billy Sims, but y'all know Billy Sims is. JB: Which I think it might. K.Smooth: See? Troy: I thought he was gonna say Jim Brown. JB: Yeah. Troy: I thought he was gonna go back that. Since he be getting everybody in his error. K.Smooth: is that Dick Buckeyns? my god, Motown: Who boggles down? JB: Sorry man, I where you be on for last I thought the last question, but and that's this do y'all think that Michael Irvin get a respect that he deserved as a res one of being one of the all time receivers? Troy: No. No you don't. I don't. Motown: I'm gonna say no. Say no. K.Smooth: Nobody don't live across that middle like JB: Okay. K.Smooth: he He made it live across. JB: Right. I I Yeah, I agree because I'd be 'cause every time you hear somebody talk about receivers, you never hear them say Michael. And I'm like, yeah, like Mike wasn't that guy and he and this support that gives me he did it in the era when passing wasn't like it is now. K.Smooth: Right. He still would get thousands. JB: So K.Smooth: still getting pissed off. JB: And I know like I have another group I have another group I be talking to and we was going back and forth about A B A B and Jerry Rice. And people I guess people understand that I guess Rice and them did that did that shit back when Motown: is back. JB: passing wasn't like it. I know West Coast offense, all that stuff, but he had Martana and Young, but we wasn't we wasn't throwing the ball like they're doing now sixty to seventy percent of the time. Back then they had real running back that was running every play family. So K.Smooth: Bye. JB: I I that's why I respect a lot of the old receivers. Again, I ain't gonna take nothing away from these dogs they got now from Chase to Jetta. but man, them boys back then, man, they earned their and another thing, like Aikman. People call Aikman I heard people call Eightman a system quarterback. How you a system quarterback when you put all receivers, I Motown: . JB: mean three reci but what he put? Novacek in the pr in the Pro Bowl? Irving, Harper, and K.Smooth: you JB: sometimes movements in there for blocking and stuff. K.Smooth: Yeah. JB: But that's three receivers that he's putting in a Pro Bowl. K.Smooth: Right. JB: That's why I never heard I never said why people can say that Aiken was a system quarterback and also they always throw in that that's they throw that bullshit in that Dallas did have a great offensive line. But players had to be execu executed. Yeah, that's K.Smooth: And then you know, if everyone wasn't that good, Dion wouldn't be checking them. You know what saying? JB: Exactly. K.Smooth: Dion had to bring that A game to check that boy. He he wasn't no slouch. He was physical, kind of fast, and a cat. He wasn't scared to get JB: Exactly. K.Smooth: hit. You know what I'm saying? But no, he don't get the respect he deserve. But it's Nope. JB: Well fellas man, I wanna thank y'all for being on the show. This is a fun show, man. It was good talking to you and seeing y'all, man. so I get I wanna thank my guests. K.Smooth: Yeah, I stay in there, G. Appreciate that, JB: business, any shows, anything coming up? K.Smooth: Now I'm doing it on my own. Motown: You better payin' for me right now, man. JB: Eric, you wanna send a shout out to to the temptations? I know y'all got a show coming. K.Smooth: Ha ha ha ha! Motown: Hehehehehe Yeah, that was K.Smooth: haha Motown: a good one, that Jake, you hear me? You know I know them boys, JB: Is that K.Smooth: Yeah. Motown: you know I know them. JB: Yeah. K.Smooth: I ain't got none of that. Man, this poor little cowboy man wants to come out and get ya. JB: Right. Motown: This is the part where I'll put. JB: See K.Smooth: What? What are doing here man? What are doing? JB: Yeah. Motown: Press that button when you start talking about them cowboys again. JB: yeah, we good. Well, again, I wanna thank y'all for for joining the show today. Hey, remember, if you enjoyed the show, make sure you hit the like button, the subscribe button, and also share with a friend. So again, I wanna thank my Troy: The JB: guests for coming on the show. Eric, Troy, and Smood. Again, man, we're gonna have to do the show again. Like I told Troy, we're gonna do a show called af it's gonna be like after everybody else got the Monday night football and the Monday night quarterback. it's gonna be Tuesday when everybody's and all the sports are finished. We're gonna come on and talk our shit. And shit, we might even go live with that one. So But yeah, but K.Smooth: around. JB: again, thank you man. Make sure y'all tune in for the next show. I appreciate y'all. See y'all next time. Motown: Love you all man. Troy: Peace.