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Bears Rookie Expectations At Training Camp w/ College Football Expert · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Wendy City podcast presented by fans side it and yes Alex isn't here but it cast what I got something for you all right and we're going to go back as we always do NBC days here to a partner of mine a former partner who is the managing editor over at NBC Chicago if you don't know him you should and is my guy James the vote I am kind of famous but more importantly James the vote is in the house all right
• 0:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: big tin country was his baby and he allowed me to join him and we had great times and he waxed poetic plenty of times because of great work.
• 0:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: One thing is he's definitely a journalist but he needs his props also when it comes to hosting because he has a special gift and I got to give my guy a shout out on that.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: James, how are you doing?
• 0:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing great, buddy.
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's been way too long since you and I have caught up.
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know you and I still hit each other up.
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Text messages and stuff, especially during football season.
• 0:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm going to be texting you on random Saturdays this year.
• 1:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, hey, do you see what Delaware state did today?
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: One of my favorite times on college football Saturdays.
• 1:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: When I could be like, hey, Ken, you should check this random game out that you never would have watched otherwise.
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's always good to catch up with you, buddy.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Always looking forward to it, man.
• 1:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: The truth, truth, truth of a sports fan is the depth that you go to watch random college football games out of no like, and so people love college football, this man loves loves him some college football
• 1:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So definitely, and I definitely have to take a trip and I have to invite you over, but definitely we got to get some sticks and hang out and enjoy some college football as I drive back in the dark of night from KKK.
• 1:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the great thing about this, you only because it's funny and we will get to some bears chatter.
• 1:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're catching up.
• 1:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're catching up, all right.
• 2:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like when you get older and I know James, you still like road tripping or whatever, like you're still a big road tripper where like the last five years I've road tripped more often, but I always felt like listen after college, I'm out of it, you know, I don't want to be in the car really more than four hours, right, but I've been to Alabama now, at least twice I think in the last or three times or twice in the last five years and that's something like 11 hours or whatever like that.
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I will do it, but I'm still more like, book me a flight.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to sit in this car this long or whatever, but you, my friend, you will, you will go on a Mac vacations.
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, to bolster my credentials a little bit last year, during the month of November, went to three different Mac football games in the span of about two weeks and visited seven.
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: max stadiums last season.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we we hit up Akron, we hit up Toledo, Bowling Green Kent State, all of them really, really cool places.
• 3:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that maxion fever is a real thing, dude.
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we had us some times.
• 3:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: You would not believe how much Muncie Indiana is bumping on a Wednesday night
• 3:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Monday.
• 3:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, everybody, who's jumping to some of these bears and find out James thoughts.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Almost going on with the beloved James, let's start in the trenches.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dennis Allen took the podium the other day and the question of course is going to be about the bears ability to pressure.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: the opposing team's quarterback.
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the thing that Ryan posed Burst General Manager said this week is basically they have to get eyes on everyone.
• 3:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And evaluate the players that they have.
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: For some of us, that's frustrating.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: You do understand that some players were some of the key players that went into last season when you think about hopefully that Austin Booker was going to break out.
• 3:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't disappointed in the thought that when what people thought he was going to become,
• 4:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh... bringing in gritty jerry and gritty jerry really wasn't himself from a jordia the year but the bear's past rush was inefficient last year and your thoughts on what they did last year and what they may do this season yeah i think that you can definitely use the injury discussion when it comes to that i mean you look at the man games that they lost last year and
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was if it wasn't at the top of the NFL, it was really close and it's always hard when you're trying to go through all those different permutations and combinations of players to try to address the shortcomings of that past rush and the bears just they struggled with it last season and.
• 4:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I know there was an area that a lot of bear stands were hoping that this team would do a lot to address during the off season and then you went out and you addressed safety multiple times this season.
• 4:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You went out and got different weapons for guys like Caleb Williams and that defensive line is still one of those question marks and they really do.
• 4:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: seem to be relying a lot on health and keeping guys on the football field.
• 5:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that it's probably a calculated gamble by Ryan Polls.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would guess because it's a thing where the market last season or on the off season was not the best I would say.
• 5:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And certainly in the NFL draft, you could kind of tell that the bears, once there was that run, I think was in the second round of players that ended up going.
• 5:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really wish they would gotten Gabe Jack as
• 5:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: right now.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Really would have loved to have seen that dude recon some havoc for the bear's past rush.
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I get the sense that Ryan Poles didn't want to chase it.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: He did not want to go drastically overpay for guys on that.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: He wanted to get premium talent at different spots in free agency and through the drafts.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I know a lot of fans were really upset by the fact that he didn't really address the defensive line a whole heck of a lot.
• 5:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I can understand the logic.
• 5:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just think that the, you definitely still have the questions though, especially when you're relying on, you know, the potential for guys to stay healthy.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's such a big gamble in this day and age.
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think in the situation of the bears, at least they address some other needs too, but yeah, I still, I don't think you can say safely that you're satisfied with the answers that they've come up with in that particular area.
• 6:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, James, when you mention grandpa's it makes me want to ask your question and there's no way for us to totally know so this I just want to get your opinion on something your observation on what it seems like Ben Johnson's role is when it comes to.
• 6:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: player, the draft and professional player pro bring.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And because in some ways, this draft didn't seem like a Ryan's polls draft in the past.
• 6:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: And by no means in my sentence as a negative thing, I think it bears friends that have been around for at least 20 years.
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can go back to Lovey Smith going to the Super Bowl and how much power that enabled him
• 6:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Really, that's the reason that you have Ron Rivera being exited from defense coordinator because Lovey was kind of covering himself to make sure if he had a bad season, his replacement wouldn't be there, but the type of power that Lovey gets because he had such a good season.
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And mind you, we're talking about Ben Johnson being the coach last year that everyone wanted.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he came in with probably a bigger hammer than usual.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then you had a season that no one thought was going to take place, particularly at the
• 7:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: the bears were so stagnant, offensively and defensively.
• 7:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you're thought so on where you see Ben Johnson coming in with Ryan Polls and affecting the draft last season.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, this past off season.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I just, I think that when you look at literally the way that he came in and they immediately restarted remake in that offense in his image.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that Ben Johnson wanted to come to Chicago very clearly.
• 7:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like he asserted that he wanted to be here.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: He came here.
• 7:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: and immediately made that offense over in his image and you honestly cannot argue with the results that he had.
• 8:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: You saw the emergence of guys like Roma Dunes and Luther Burden who, by the way, I am really stoked about those two guys assuming of course they can stay healthy, but I think that those are two just dynamic players and then the fact that you had constant loveland who had
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: such a strong season last year and there were all sorts of questions if the bears had made a mistake of drafting him in the first round instead of addressing some other needs and I think that having that kind of a weapon that can be used in that with that many different versatile skill sets the way that the bears did.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just think it goes to show that they're very willing to allow Ben Johnson to kind of steer the ship a little bit in those kinds of high profile premium positions.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that to give a rookie head coach, that amount of leverage, that amount of decision-making power and to have it pay off the way that they did, I think that the bears just looked at that and said, look,
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: we gave this guy the opportunity to go out and to make these decisions and they really benefited strongly from that and you saw the progress that the offense made last season you saw what Caleb Williams is able to do.
• 9:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that the bears, if they were worried at all that they had maybe given him too much of the reins to kind of start with, I think that got disabused real quick as that season went on and that offense continued to blossom and so I think that
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ryan Polls recognizes the opportunity that he has to create you know a perennial top five offense in this league and I think that you have to continue to give Ben Johnson that wrote because frankly he earned it last season and the guys that he went to bat for and the way that he deployed them really worked out quite beautifully.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And sitting on the workout beautifully part or aspect that you just mentioned, and you brought about coast and love and this takes me back to some big tin country stuff.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was the resident probably Penn State guy on a big tin country and of course James knows I was heavy on tyroorn.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the thing was, it was, if you're going to do it in Nester guy and his fit, referring to coast and leveling is more desirable in your offense going do it.
• 10:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: But with the fact that he knew what he was doing and what coast and leveling end up becoming and the fit.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're talking about a guy that it wouldn't be shocking for him to be the lead path catcher on in this office.
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be because they don't have other players producing, it will be just because of how
• 10:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: When you're running, particularly that be able to run and you to run 12 and 13 and of course then bringing in Sam Rausch and I was sitting there bruised in the papers and seeing that he's getting reps with the starters because you do expect for them to play three tight ends at a time with the athleticism of those tight ends and what they could do, but also whether they could do in the run game and this being a run first offense, even though you're talking about a guy that is in the morning of Ben Johnson.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh, savvy when it comes to the past game, but that, that again, him drafting coast and I mean, everything fell into place and you would hope you looking at this past draft that everything continues to fall in place.
• 11:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: You, you're looking at them.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know what, I want to talk trenches, but let me ask you this, safety in the first round.
• 11:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned of course, gay jack is he was a guy that when Alex and I were running pre-drafts
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: of the thoughts when the bears went safety first round, not to say that they didn't need a safety, they were losing all of their safety's last season, but knowing the need upfront, but them deciding that they didn't think of it with so special, but also on the other side of it, you being someone super focused on college football and him coming over from Purdue and what you saw before he got to Oregon, what you saw after, and then what you thought about the bears going safety in the first round in his past draft.
• 11:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of love that idea of having the two new safety is coming in and kind of complimenting each other.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that when they brought in Kobe Bryant, I thought it made a lot of sense for them to add in another like really strong player.
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: One of the best it is position undoubtedly in this year's draft class.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that it was a really smart move.
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that it probably would have been a little bit of a reach to go in several different directions that that spot in the draft from the Bears ended up picking.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I really liked that idea and that complimentary style that those two were going to kind of bring to the table.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought that the enumin had just a tremendous season at Oregon.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I know that Oregon, obviously, they kind of got, you know, outshone a little bit in the big ten last season.
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then again, who didn't in the Anna?
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: outshine last season, all of the hype that was around Ohio State and rightfully so with just the dynamic team that they're able to put together in Columbus.
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that when you saw that Oregon team play in some of the big situations that they played in, you thought that that secondary had some real talent to it and Dylan was always right there in the middle of it.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I thought that pairing the guy like that is arguably the best it is positioned in the draft class, pairing him with probably your top.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say Kobe Bryant was your top free agent acquisition during the off season.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that that was a really savvy move for the bears to do and I really did think that they did a great job in terms of scouting and just the way that those two were in a kind of compliment each other.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm glad that they didn't try to reach on a guy.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: You never want to see them reaching on a guy in the first round.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know that it's kind of a luxury, some teams have like they have like a very kind of niche idea of how they want to use a guy and they're just kind of stacked
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the bears really had that luxury.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they really did want to bolster their secondary, especially with some of the injury questions you're going to be dealing with at the corner back position.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: You might as well try to lock down that safety position and really help those guys out over the top.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, I like that you mentioned that because when you think about Kyla Gordon's injury and Jalen Johnson coming back from injury, Jalen hadn't been as injured recently as Kyla Gordon has been, but the fact that in Kobe Bryant and Dylan Thineman, you have guys that can play different positions in a defensive backfield and it covers you up so that you're not single doubt where perhaps you just have a goddess more of a box safety, you know, and then that's an issue if you're in a situation where
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a Jamal Adam situation where now he plays linebacker, but even when he was a probal safety, he was still, he's a guy that you want to play closer to to the line, and the fact that the league is going away from that, and the bears is made sure that they're not trapped in that I do like that aspect, particularly for it seemed to have so many turnovers last year to bring in guys that can, I won't say, you're not going to get that, usually you won't get that many turnovers, but you're still bringing in guys that are capable of doing some of the
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Even actually that are more than capable I should say, I'm that's not a shot at Kevin buyer.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just more Kevin buyers age, but you when you look at it's still upgrading what Kobe Bryant has done in Seattle with the different positions he's played, but also a little filling thing and being the guy that you can play in nickel in different situations like that.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: a calculator risk to go in that direction, especially with the season-buyered had last season.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of bears fans were kind of upset to see him walk out the door, but I thought that that was another one of those instances where you had kind of that ability to upgrade and get a guy who maybe fits the vision a little bit more that they're kind of going forward with the long term.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm glad you shouted that out because I know that was obviously one of the big headlines of the off-season was that swap between those two guys safety.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look, when we were just talking about pro-person islander draft and the influence of bears, the newest bears had culture course with Ben Johnson, I want to also talk about, and I want to give back to the trenches, that for a lot of years, and you know those James, we've talked about this at Nazium, the question was, what are the hell are you doing with the offensive line?
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And in Chicago, I don't think this is the most, but we listen, we're in this is our region.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: But most places, if you don't have a, uh, a Williams, uh, school, uh, if you're going to have questions at your left tackle, and I think it's the low hanging fruit to be like, we need a left tackle.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And one of the things that we always say on past shows is like, no, you need to send it, you need a guard like there were so many holes.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the thing with breaking Ben Johnson here, and you could see
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was an emphasis placed on, no, this can't be a myriad of myriad men when it comes to the office of mine.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: We need some studs.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that them settling and setting up the offensive line with the moves when you're breaking in.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: when you're bringing in Jonah Jackson, when you're signing a Drew Dalman who retired.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then, but what happened this year and what they did?
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And now, so James made me feel really good because just signing gear at Bradbury, it's good that you've settled down.
• 16:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got someone that you think can help you right away, but you play such an emphasis on getting a stud when you went and signed the biggest center that was out last year to the contract in Drew Dalman.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: For now, I'm going to go Logan Jones out of again, another day, my big sin guy here.
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: It shows that the plan isn't haphazard.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: The plan is the plan.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it usually has felt in the past that the plan was haphazard and could change at the whim.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of, no, this is the standard and we're always going to try to get back to the standard.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I mean, you have to give credit to Ryan Polls for being kind of nimble on his feet because I don't think any of us assumed Drew Dalman was going to be retiring after last season.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that they had that on their bingo card when they were looking at the different moves.
• 17:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were going to have to make this off season.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then all of a sudden, you've got that gaping hole in the middle of your line and think, God, they've got Joe Thunian.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank God, they've got Jonah Jackson, like they've got some fortification up the middle of that line.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it gives you a great.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: place to kind of start with and like you said, being able to address it multiple different ways with Bradbury and then with drafting Logan Jones, I thought that it was a nice little bit of roster nimbleness and construction on the part of Rand Paul's, I do have to give him credit for that because again,
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's not something that he really was going to be, you know, plot now that he was probably going to have to do.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, obviously, I'm not privy to conversations that Dalman may have had with him after the off season.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that was kind of an out-of-left field thing.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was an unexpected bit of a versity that I thought the bears actually did a really solid job in kind of addressing.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I know there's still going to be question marks.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just like every other off season of our lives, it feels like almost with the Chicago Bears on whether Braxton Jones is going to be ultimately that answer at left tackle or whatever it's going to be.
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that the bears prove last season that they can have an offensive line that's better than the sum of its parts and I think that.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: They, especially with the guy like Thuny, laying it down like he does in left guard, I think that that opens up a lot of other possibilities and less we forget when they go out in the get, you know, guys to kind of brown that roster out and getting Sam Roush.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's only going to help them with blocking game 2, especially when it comes to that run game and then when it's past block time.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be able to throw some, and then you still have a guy like Cole Commander Colson, Lovelin, will be able to go out and catch the football.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that they have a lot of versatile pieces in that area, and they're willing or able, I should say, to kind of absorb that loss of a Drew Dalman because of that clever roster construction.
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you hit it.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's also the fact that you have a Hall of Famer and Joe Dune, right there, where in the past, even if we're, this is hypothetically, say, Bradson Jones is the starter.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: In the past, the garden next to him wasn't as stout as needed.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not, you know, a knock on Cody white hair, but father time had started catching up with Cody.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: When Cody was in his prime, Cody was a good center and a good guard, even though some of the exchanges at Plants Center can be off at times because yet that we're kind of angle when he snapped a ball.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: But when you have a stud, and that's to me, and it gets back to how I opened up this part of this discussion.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Showing that, all right, we're going to have and we'll get to Darnell Wright with Darnell Rice contract seem like he's going to get a new deal and he says he wants to be a bear.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: But Darnell Wright stepping into who he was supposed to be.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jalen Cardinal will forever love you as far as the bears play it.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: One of the younger bears seem character that's a different issue.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: but still I don't I don't need a bunch of choir voice with everything I'm doing on a football field but going for You did when it came to the previous culture of this team I thought that that definitely was a realistic thing But if they if it was happening again now You probably have a different outcome to that conversation you probably and and your past risk.
• 20:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a knock on down and right, I'm happy to have done all right.
• 20:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I still believe it's easier to find a right tackle than it is perhaps a generational defense of tackle that one can play the past and the right.
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so we're not talking about three technique in just I can get into the backfield and I may be under size.
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're talking three technique like I'm big fast and I can do like that that's a different guy, but.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, those are those issues of Georgia that that tragic accident, I understand, but Philadelphia felt like they could do something did the bears have the veterans the Philadelphia had in that locker room, no, but still I think sometimes that's on the staff to be able to corral that, but that's the discussion for
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: a past day, it's not even another day.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: But to go with the research of Jonah Jackson from not fitting game with what Sean McVeys Ram's offensive line was doing, getting closer to what he was as a Detroit line, to bring in Drew Dominaging Mitchell, to have to trade for Joe Thuny, a Hall of Famer that's to play with some of the greatest quarterbacks ever.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then you'd lucked in the Aussie Chippolo, who you had it right, we had to shut him that right because the left was being too much.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then he becomes a guy where you're like, man, we don't have to work.
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we'll point and that's the crazy part and we'll point last year and I hope this is far as it's below.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is maybe for Bears fans.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And of course, I wanted to embarrass you in the form.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just hope he gets back to being whatever he was going to be because James, how rare has it been as a Bears fan to not be concerned at left tackle?
• 21:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean to truly not be concerned.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean like you're literally thinking back on all of those different guys that have been at
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: count on like one hand at the best the number of guys that you could say you went into the season were like you know what this is going to be all right like they this is just always been like a constant flux position all to be fair a lot of NFL teams do have to deal with this.
• 22:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is not a uniquely Chicago Bears issue and that's why I'm really glad that they made the moves they did to fortify the interior of that line because it makes those other guys it gives them just
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: between 2024 and 2025, the way this team was able to protect Caleb Williams and kind of scheme out those past protections.
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought that it was an incredibly good job done by that entire offensive coaching staff and credit to the players too that we're able to make that all work.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, otherwise he would never have had a guy like Tropia, like potentially blossoming the way that he did, right?
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like that.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: would not have happened in 2024 with the way that roster was constructed.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that that just goes to show just the value of having that, you know, solid steady up the middle force that you can then complement those pieces on the edges and really see what you've gotten some guys and unearthed some diamonds in the rough.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, they're most physically talented office of Lyman is probably done there, all right.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Donna Wright has came out and said that he wants to be a bear for life or for a long time rather in paraphrasing.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thoughts on him probably getting the contract extension this offseason bears General Manager Ryan Post did Lutu.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a finite date they would like to get that done and that's probably the beginning of a regular season.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that it's it's very logical, especially with the leaves forward.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's made his game last season.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that that's A position that you would love to be able to kind of tidy up and to be able to kind of take care of the know that.
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ultimately, you're secure there and to really lock down that right side of the line and I know you've got a couple of guys who have come in is undrafted free agents this season they're going to be hoping to get some backup roles on that line, but I think that addressing that question and being able to get Darnell right the kind of security that he frankly deserves after the season that he had last year, I think is a really.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: smart bit of business for Ryan Poles to get done, especially with some of the other contracts you'll eventually have to start handing out to the guys who are going to be coming on down the line because obviously you're going to have to at some point pay a cable Williams at some point you're not that you'd decide if you want to pay a room of dunes they like these are going to be types of contracts you're going to have to get out.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: You may as well start walking these guys up now and get a little bit more creative with your salary capper and so that you're able to get those deals done later and it just it feels to me like Darnell right is the kind of guy that you absolutely sign an extension with because I feel like he profiles so well as a right tackle for the next five six seasons I think it's a really smart bit of business for the bears to get that.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: locked up and not to have to go back into that market, because frankly, you've already had to go into the market to address a pretty significant issue when you had to go and get a center of this offseason.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can we skip that part and not do that again with right tackle next season?
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: That would definitely be my preference, and I'm sure it would be holds as preference as well.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Your thoughts, you mentioned Caleb Caleb came back a little bit lighter 10 to 15 pounds.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's mentioned that he's changed his diet and his resting look.
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's everything you want to see from a quarterback.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: A particular quarterback that was a lightning rod as far as it's funny.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just to think about all the hooha over his nails at this point.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And just but just think about like a dude that took the city by storm like dog, it feels like Caleb has been here more than one year and to think that he had a year before the season where there was still question marks, I don't think you and I may have had the same question marks, but for to turn that season around last year and
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: magic.
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the guy the kid got has he has some magic in them, but thought so Caleb being fit and seeming like he's gearing up to have another great season with one of the best office of minds in the NFL of Ben Johnson.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can it just is like one of the best traditions and professional sports that a guy either gains 15 pounds or loses 15 pounds on an offseason in proclaims that he's in the best season.
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Shape of his life, right?
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: it happens every single year and so I have to admit that I can be a little sarcastic at time.
• 26:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So when I heard Caleb Williams talking about his weight loss, I was like, oh good, it's just literally every other athlete I've ever experienced in my entire life.
• 26:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's just lovely.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: He threw out this off season and frankly, throughout last season too, he has said and done all of the right things to prove that this dude knows what he's about and he knows what his goals are as the quarterback of the Chicago Bears.
• 26:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that we've seen what this city does when a player is remotely decent, we've never had in Chicago like a quarterback who could potentially be like a top five guy in the league right like no offense to you know, Jim McMahon.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love J. Cutler even though everybody hated that dude.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: That dude swagger killed me.
• 27:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: But having a guy like Caleb Williams who's that dedicated to being great and the fact that he was able to do all those magical things that he was able to do last season, that like is going to transcend like Chicago famous to like God status.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you saw the dudes on the cover of Madden for God's sake.
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ken, when you were growing up, did you ever think we would have a Chicago
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: on the cover of mad.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: You weren't sitting there going, oh, I bet Eric Cramer is going to look real good.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I better get that special edition of Madden that has Jim Miller on the cover.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, you never would have thought that.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the fact that we have this potentially transcendent talent.
• 27:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: On the Chicago Bears, it's still so it's it's like a pinch me moment every single time you see him whipping out one of those throws like whether it's in practice or do what I do go back and occasionally watch that game winning throw against the Packers the Iceman come if kind of throw like.
• 28:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just still so unreal and I think that bears fans should never ever lose sight of the fact that that is a very special thing to have and it's my hope that we have it for a lot more years to come, but I still love the fact that dude is not resting on his laurels, the dude is still grind in and saying all the right things and most importantly of all.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: still sounds like he's so in sync with Ben Johnson, man, like that is the most important relationship currently going in Chicago and that literally is like transcends all, you know, genres, entertainment, sports, whatever, that relationship between Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson is the most important and I follow that like anybody else would follow a reality show and I'm really
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it's like love island up in Lake Forest, dude.
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, no, of course I thought that P.T.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Willis or Steve Walsh was going to end up on the cover of Mad James.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: How would I, as a, I know what I, I can't believe how silly I am, man.
• 29:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I also forgot that you were like the world's biggest Craig Crenzel guy because you were like, the dude is like a brain surge in me surgically.
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: in the port is a position that was, that was the candidate special man for some reason to get a a macho man Randy Savage impression while you did that.
• 29:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, I used to do a good Mitt Randy's never, but I was a kid.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I had a hell of a Randy Savage in person.
• 29:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I bet you've still got it in the back pocket if we need it.
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to feed you a couple of delicious glasses of scotch the next time you come over now.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get that out of you, my dude.
• 29:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look, I want to ask you this, and we'll get back, we'll get on Rome, and it's foot.
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You said as far as the athletes and the annual loss of gain of weight, all right, this is the best season.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: But, and you being a historian, and when it comes to anything, not just sports.
• 29:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: But James, there was a time period where that really meant something because guys were doing things and I can and it particularly in baseball and I won't name any names, but I remember a great NBA guard who was still extremely young at this time.
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's never talked about, but when you said that it jumped in my head, and I just wanted to put that out there, and then he lost the weight, but it was, because it's always crazy how you can gain about 25 pounds, all right, because you got to know if you're training, all right, if you're doing cardio folks.
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: it's hard to gain consistently.
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: It may take you some a couple years or three years to put on that my bad, but it's off season three, four months, three months.
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, you're back to here in Chicago, Roman Dunes that you mentioned the fact that they're going to have to think about paying world.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the funny thing is you're going to have to think about it the same time you're going to have to pay your quarterbacks since they were drafted in the same draft.
• 31:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Romas come out and one of the things that we've all talked about particularly outs and I on this show was when Romas said that they could be a new normal coming back with that foot injury that he did not have certainly elected not to have surgery on but he came out this week and said that the foot is great which I mean you hope it is of course.
• 31:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he has to kind of fix that because it did kind of leave us kind of wondering what this new normal is going to be expectations for Rome James you have a situation where DJ Moore's gone DJ Moore in times was underused, but still that's still a lot of receptions that are going to be out there and Luke the burden came.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like I've liked everything I've seen or heard from the burden say since OTAs and training camp.
• 31:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think that it's pretty clear that the stage is wide open for Roma Dunes, a to grab that wide receiver one role and to run with it.
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that the bears are in kind of a beneficial position.
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're not only do they have a guy like Luther burden who's going to be able to take some pressure off of him in terms of drawing coverage and the athleticism that he brings to the football field, but you also have the diversity of formations.
• 32:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to be able to utilize with guys like Cole, Comet and Colston Lovelin.
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was really happy.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: the bears didn't trade coal commit because I felt like that was going to ease some of the pressure on Roman doomsday to take that step forward.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I got to be honest with you, man, when he was making the comments about, you know, the new normal quote unquote, I think that we get into this mode where we kind of hyper fixate on everything that's said in training camp because it's obviously the first time we're really seeing these guys like really getting at it and really
• 32:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just hoping against hope that, you know, that was just a matter of him like not maybe like, I don't want to say like miss speaking or whatever, but just like I want it to be something where we were just kind of misreading what he said and I'm really optimistic at that he's going to be able to stay on the field and we've seen what he can do when he is on the field.
• 33:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that there were a lot of folks kind of raising like.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know, asking questions like was it smart to go quarterback wide receiver back to back and that draft and I I still think that it was because they get to grow up together in this system and I think that, you know, the the trading of DJ more to me is indicative of the fact that Ben Johnson feels that Rome is ready to take that next step and to be that leader in the wide receiver room and
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And frankly, if Ben Johnson feels that way about him, I think I'm going to feel that way about him too, because again, that dude has earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to knowing the talent that he has and the difference of personnel that he's going to be able to deploy out there.
• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm personally confident in Roman Dunesay, and I'm really, really optimistic that this was just a matter of, well, it's still training camp, and we're all going to hyper fixate on stuff.
• 33:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: We did do a draft show for the draft before this draft.
• 34:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when Luca Burton was drafted, you just rock and clear in myself.
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned that that is the right one of Walt for DJ Moore.
• 34:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to pat myself on the back.
• 34:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was very true.
• 34:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a very pression statement by Ken Davis.
• 34:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Something I'm used to.
• 34:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: James, the schedule is harder this season, even though in saying that we still don't know with parody, within NFL, how some of these teams, the opposing teams are gonna shake out, compared to just going off of how well they play last season, but your thoughts on the fact that the bears do have a rough schedule for James Neville, what is the successful season for the bears, Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams this season?
• 34:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that if they can win 11 games, I do, I consider that to be a success because that still gets you into the postseason, but it also shows that it wasn't just the fact that you had like kind of an easier road with some of the opponents you had during the 20 25 season.
• 34:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: If they get to 11 wins this season, they certainly will have earned it because you've got so many tough matchups.
• 35:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got back to back games against both Super Bowl teams from last season.
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not like New England or Seattle got any worse.
• 35:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, they may have even gotten better.
• 35:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then you've got just that murderers row of a...
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: opponents late in the season when you have to play Buffalo, Green Bay, and Detroit, the last three weeks of the season, that is going to be a really tough sled and for the bears.
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that there it seemed that's going to be out to prove that last year was not a fluke.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I know that it's always hard to keep that motivation level high when you've had some success, but this team seems hungry enough that they're going to be able to maybe win with a little less trauma this season.
• 35:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the other thing I worry about too.
• 35:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not just the harder schedule.
• 35:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's also the can you still win if you're not having the magical comebacks every single week like the Bears did last season.
• 35:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I know 11 and 6 probably doesn't sound like I'm super bullish on the Bears.
• 35:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some fans may be disappointed in that.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think 11 wins for this team would be really solid considering the schedule they're going to have to play against.
• 36:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: and the expectations that they're going to have to deal with, too.
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I would say would be successful.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: It would not shock me at all to see them go above that, but I think 11 is a really good goal to shoot for for this team.
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I think 11 is great when you talk about this schedule.
• 36:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then one of the flips that what you said, because the chances that the magic is the exact same late game magic is there, but you should have early game consistency that you didn't have last year.
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: The easier passes and things like that.
• 36:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: where you're more on script so the scoring can be more consistent rather than let's get to the two-minute drill and let Caleb do the magic show so that will be the hope this season.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: James of course we've opened this up talking about college football.
• 36:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: You and I did a big tin show.
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: You let me join your show.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tell me about the Big Ten this season.
• 36:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: What are your expectations for the Big Ten?
• 36:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And what teams and players for people that aren't looking at the Big Ten or haven't been washing it should they be looking at this upcoming season?
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that there's going to be a lot to be excited about when it comes to Penn State this season.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I know you're going to be real happy to hear that.
• 37:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: They obviously have had kind of up and down experiences.
• 37:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've had some really solid seasons lately.
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of questions around that team, whether or not they're going to be able to kind of bounce back to where they were under James Franklin before they got rid of them.
• 37:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought that they're hiring a Matt Campbell in the off season was a really smart move.
• 37:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought bringing in Rocco back.
• 37:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: So at quarterback was really smart.
• 37:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: there is so much value to bring in and experience quarterback.
• 37:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you've seen teams like Illinois have done that and they've really benefited from it.
• 37:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've had Indiana bring in dudes from James Madison and they really kind of work, you know, it was seamless for them.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that your ideally going to look at Penn State as a team that's probably going to take a leap forward.
• 37:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that Ohio State is going to be able to find their way.
• 38:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know that they've still got
• 38:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, some really talented players and Columbus, they always do.
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that I've seen quite a few pundits saying that they're potentially the national championship favorites, which I could get behind that argument, but I would say make sure that you're watching Penn State this season definitely make sure that you're watching Oregon because that's a team that has a lot of experienced pieces, a great quarterback.
• 38:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that they are poised to kind of have like one of the seasons where they could
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: If they if they don't go 12 and no like I think go 11 and one I think is very realistic for an Oregon squad and then obviously selfishly like I'm fascinated to see what ends up happening with Illinois because they're going from one of the most experienced teams in college football when in nine games back to back seasons to being one of the least experienced teams and they've got question marks all over the place they've got a good secondary but will Kate and how's there be able to be the quarterback the Luke Altnire was.
• 38:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're definitely going to find out.
• 38:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I still think they're probably selfishly in eight or nine when team this season, fingers crossed, hopefully.
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I still think that that big 10 goes through Indiana, Ohio State.
• 39:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think that Oregon and Penn State are definitely going to be the position to potentially give those guys a run for their money.
• 39:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, today's extra point before we get out of here, I want to talk about an end of an era and something that is personal to me because of the opportunities that are provided me with.
• 39:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Loping up my text messages yesterday and just looking on social media.
• 39:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was a new sports anchor that decided to kind of step away.
• 39:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, he calls me KD because my name is Kenneth Davis.
• 39:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think maybe about five months four months ago I was on WGN, uh, Jared always reaches out, um, look Larry Hally, uh, Josh Friedman, um, I want to shout out to them.
• 39:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: J.C.
• 39:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've known Jared Payton since the Illinois Center, uh, uh, uh, a broadcasting known as Illinois Media School.
• 40:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, he was doing shows up there with Sean Davis
• 40:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but to know him over the last decade from sports fee to gen to everything like that, and then to do the do that he is all right.
• 40:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have it the note at this point mentioned that his daddy is arguably the girl is running back up.
• 40:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, and the type of pressure that is placed on that and how well he does it, but there isn't.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know in all fairness, a nicer person.
• 40:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: and all fairness like that.
• 40:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's there's not a nice a person and I'm sure that may be hard.
• 40:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I consider both of us to be nice people and doesn't, but near one our dad's a famous, not saying it whatever, but particularly in the city of Chicago, there's heralded as Walter Payton is, but for the the German of J.P. is, how well he did his job, but really the manity is I want to shout out Jarrah Payton.
• 40:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I always appreciate you, I always will appreciate you.
• 41:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you ever need anything, always will be there.
• 41:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I wanted to shout out JP stepping away.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: You did great.
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: You stepped in something new and you knocked it out the park.
• 41:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: So shout out to Jared Payton and whatever he does moving forward, definitely support and I just want to do that.
• 41:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And also shout out my guy right here.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: James Neville, a true friend to say the least.
• 41:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Follow him.
• 41:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you read everything that he does as a managing editor at NBC.
• 41:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: He takes his work very seriously.
• 41:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I take our friendship seriously.
• 41:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I thank you, James, for joining us today here on the Windy City podcast.
• 41:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, to you and your family, my guy will see you soon and we got to get a beverage this summer.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
• 41:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 41:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's in the world to hang out to do that.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: So let's do it.
• 41:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yes, so sometime this month, this month, all right.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to reach out to you because you always coordinate to stuff.
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to reach out to you and we're going to, I'll see what your schedule is, but we at least, let's put it on the weather, let's try to get to the river or something, to put it on the weather.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, if the weather's nice, let's do it outside, you know what I'm saying, and take advantage of you said Chicago, best summer city in the states to say the least, but I want to thank James for joining us.
• 42:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: James, thank you for joining us, and I look forward to you coming back, particularly Alex is here so we can chop it up like we did back in the day.
• 42:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: LEM, I do it.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was so great stock to you, can and literally the door is always open to you, man.
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know that best, all the best to you in the fam.
• 42:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, my God.
• 42:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, everybody, we will see you next week.