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Speaker 1: Is the bold reform it tonight's humiliation for Labor in
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Speaker 1: the Queensland election on Saturday and a message there two
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Speaker 1: net zero campaigners, also a message to anti Catholic Victoria
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Speaker 1: from the Pope who should listen?
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Speaker 2: An Australian actor, Guy Pierce caught posting vilely things on
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Speaker 2: x and the defensive Minister confirms another Chinese flotilla is
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Speaker 2: out there, but does he have even one naval ship
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Speaker 2: to tail it? But first, at every level, top to bottom,
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Speaker 2: Labour's net zero dream. This pretending to stop global warming
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Speaker 2: is turning into a disaster, including an environmental disaster, and
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Speaker 2: let's start with that, with the bizarre spectacle of let
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Speaker 2: zero fanatics destroying the planet to save it. This is,
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Speaker 2: or it was, the view of Mirovery Road west of Dubbo,
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Speaker 2: New South Wales. Lovely trees, right, but this is the
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Speaker 2: view now that bulldozers have knocked down those trees to
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Speaker 2: make way for transmission wires for soul and wind farms.
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Speaker 2: All that's bad enough, but these now are just some
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Speaker 2: of the birds, including a lot of fledglings obviously too
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Speaker 2: young to escape, who were found among the wreckage and
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Speaker 2: saved sent to a mudgy vet, dozens and dozens of them,
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Speaker 2: although one already is now dead, and you've got to
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Speaker 2: ask how many others died during this clearing. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we're talking here kestrels and kooker boroughs, galas starlings, rosellas,
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Speaker 2: grass parrots. The hypocrisy of it all, you know, I
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Speaker 2: remember when it took under a couple of birds for
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Speaker 2: environmentalists to stop some big project, you know, just the
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Speaker 2: presence of the orange bellied parrot for years it would
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Speaker 2: stop everything. But this, well, apparently this destruction is fine
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Speaker 2: because you know, it's all for the sake of pretending
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Speaker 2: to save the planet from global warming. A note, then,
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Speaker 2: instead of that old avenue of trees that stood on
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Speaker 2: Morodery Road, there will now be transmission lines up to
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Speaker 2: eighty meters tall, marching like Triffid's over the landscape to
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Speaker 2: link up to even taller wind towers. Now, the local
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Speaker 2: federal member for Claire Independent, Andrew g whose film we've
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Speaker 2: been using here, has now written a furious letter Premier
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Speaker 2: Chris Minn saying, well, locals are outraged by what he
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Speaker 2: calls this scandalous and needless destruction environmental vandalism. He said
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Speaker 2: it had to stop. And it is environmental vandalism from
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Speaker 2: a green energy project whose boss boasts about what she
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Speaker 2: calls this landmark initiative that puts New South Wales on
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Speaker 2: the map as a leader in renewable energy innovation. And
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Speaker 2: mind you, all around Australia we are seeing this kind
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Speaker 2: of net zero destruction from wind farms in Queensland with
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Speaker 2: their massive transmission lines and turbines a quarter of a
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Speaker 2: kilometer high, all the clearing going on there, to the
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Speaker 2: pumped hydro scheme and the snowy mountains years behind schedule,
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Speaker 2: six times over budget, scarring those iconic mountains. And you
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Speaker 2: know it could all have been avoided at politicians if
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Speaker 2: they just simply built new coal fire generators or nuclear
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Speaker 2: reactors exactly where we already have cold generators, no problem,
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Speaker 2: use the same wires. Wouldn't need ten thousand kilometers and
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Speaker 2: new transmission lines and are now being built at well
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Speaker 2: an eye watering cost and all this damage. We wouldn't
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Speaker 2: need hideous wind towers built on coastlines and on top
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Speaker 2: of hills dominating the landscape. We wouldn't need so many
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Speaker 2: square kilometers solar farms squatting on good farmland. The Abnezi
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Speaker 2: government assists nuclear energy that's got to be banned. Coal
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Speaker 2: generators they must go, must instead run this giant experiment
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Speaker 2: of trying to run a modern industrial economy and unreliable
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Speaker 2: wind and solar power backed up hopefully with things that
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Speaker 2: kick in when the wind doesn't blow or the sunshine
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Speaker 2: Trust says the government, we can do this, so we've
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Speaker 2: got to trust them, even though there's now fronting new
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Speaker 2: reasons not to.
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Speaker 3: Do.
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Speaker 2: You know, it was already clear even before last weekend
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Speaker 2: that nothing was going to plan. The Albinizi government had promised,
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Speaker 2: for instance, it's zero schemes. They were going to cut
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Speaker 2: your power bills. Instead, of course they went up. It
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Speaker 2: promised huge wind farms out at sea. Instead most of
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Speaker 2: those plans collapsed. It promised you a new miracle green gas,
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Speaker 2: green hydrogen, and as you know, those plans collapsed as well.
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Speaker 2: And today the Astraan Energy Market Operator a EMO issued
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Speaker 2: a report saying whoops now in New South Wales risk
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Speaker 2: blackouts of the jan Aaran coal fired power station in
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Speaker 2: New South Wales closed as planned just two years from
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Speaker 2: now now. To simplify this problem, winter Sole that they
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Speaker 2: flicker in strength, up and down, up and down, gusts
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Speaker 2: of wind, passing, clouds, changes stuff. You can have rain,
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Speaker 2: you can have sudden you know, calm the in wind.
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Speaker 2: So your electricity system you can't cope with all that.
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Speaker 2: It needs stability and that's normally done. Would sort of
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Speaker 2: imagine a giant spinning wheel. It's like a bike. You
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Speaker 2: don't have to peel constantly, as you know, the wheel
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Speaker 2: will just keep spinning steadily for a while. Now, gas
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Speaker 2: and coal fire generators they have that spinning wind and
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Speaker 2: solar they don't. And as we saw in Spain this year,
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Speaker 2: if you don't have enough of that inertia that's what
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Speaker 2: it's called, well, your whole system can crash. So what
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Speaker 2: you need if you're switching to so much wind and
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Speaker 2: solar is to install some kind of stabilizing system like that,
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Speaker 2: you know, like what's called synchronous condensers.
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Speaker 4: You'll hear the name synchronous condensers.
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Speaker 2: There's a big spinning machines on the grid that really
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Speaker 2: keep a stable heartbeat, and they need to be in.
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Speaker 5: Place before the closure of major coal fire power stations.
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Speaker 2: But as EMO war, this new equipment may not get
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Speaker 2: here until twenty twenty eight, three years from now. So
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Speaker 2: we got a huge problem there with that Araraing col
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Speaker 2: Fo power plant. It might have to be extended again
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Speaker 2: for another few years, but who knows what costs the
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Speaker 2: tax payers, As the new Southwest premier today seem to concede,
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Speaker 2: might actually be necessary, even if just to keep the
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Speaker 2: public support for net zero.
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Speaker 6: We did an agreement with Origin Energy in relation to
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Speaker 6: Arahing for them to extend it for two years. We'll
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Speaker 6: leave it up to them to make that call. We're
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Speaker 6: not necessarily opposed to a conversation with them about it.
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Speaker 6: Nothing will pull community support for this energy transition quicker
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Speaker 6: than reliability and costs spiking even further than it is today.
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Speaker 6: And I'm acutely aware of that because we want this
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Speaker 6: to work.
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Speaker 2: That's true. And Opposition leader Susan Lee, who's a pilot
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Speaker 2: and an engineering geek today jumped right on there with
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Speaker 2: a warning, you have to.
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Speaker 7: Have baseload generation in the system so that the renewable
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Speaker 7: grid is not stranded.
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Speaker 2: Now, if only that was all the bad news, and
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Speaker 2: there's enough of it right, but it just keeps flooding in.
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Speaker 2: On the weekend, the report that AEMO had actually made
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Speaker 2: a mistake. Energy operator has been working on the presumption
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Speaker 2: that the wind on our east coast will never give
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Speaker 2: us less than fourteen percent of energy capacity over a
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Speaker 2: few days. In fact, an energy consultancy says, past records
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Speaker 2: show we can get much worse than that. Wind droughts
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Speaker 2: could be so bad that well they will give us
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Speaker 2: only half the minimum at times that are emo assumed
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Speaker 2: that orange line in this graphic producing much less electricity,
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Speaker 2: and that of course spells a lot more trouble. You
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Speaker 2: need even more and back up, and that's expensive too.
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Speaker 2: So I cannot emphasize enough how this supposed green energy
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Speaker 2: transition is a green energy car crash in fact means
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Speaker 2: if that's not enough, yet more bad news. Just when
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Speaker 2: the government needs everything now to go right, Investments in
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Speaker 2: wind and solar projects have crashed, Electricity supplies are in danger,
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Speaker 2: We've got bill soaring, landscape destroyed, even young birds knocked
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Speaker 2: out of their nests. And let me ask again the question,
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Speaker 2: by how much will this lower the world's temperature? By
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Speaker 2: how much will all this pain change our climate? And
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Speaker 2: the answer is about zero. Like former chief scientists ALAM
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Speaker 2: think will admit it about zero. All that pain for
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Speaker 2: next to zero gain. What a con Now, speaking of
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Speaker 2: all that, there is a real message about global warming
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Speaker 2: and the humiliation that Labour suffered on Saturday in Queensland
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Speaker 2: and the state by election in Hinchinbrook, Labor recorded its
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Speaker 2: worst primary vote in any by election in sixty eight years,
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Speaker 2: just eight percent. Pauline Hansen's One Nation had nearly doubled
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Speaker 2: the Labor vote. But the Liberal National Party they had
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Speaker 2: a stunning win, taking the seat from the Catterparty that
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Speaker 2: held his seat for Yok's. Now, obviously this is a
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Speaker 2: massive smack to Labor leader Stephen Miles, the former premier
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Speaker 2: who really should have stepped down after losing the last
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Speaker 2: state election. But like I say, this also a message
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Speaker 2: here to the liberals around the country, all those ones
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Speaker 2: who say, you know, we can't win if we look
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Speaker 2: like we defend fossil fuels, got to get all this
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Speaker 2: and zero stuff. Now, It's true, I know that hincheon
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Speaker 2: Brook is north of Townsville and that's not anything like
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Speaker 2: urban Melbourne or Sydney. I know all that. Yet here
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Speaker 2: is the Liberal National Party having this huge win after
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Speaker 2: saying yes to more investment in coal, yes to more
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Speaker 2: investment in gas, to a new generator using this fossil fuel,
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Speaker 2: and yes to tearing up Labour's emission targets for twenty
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Speaker 2: thirty and twenty thirty five. That's true. The Chris Foley
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Speaker 2: government still pays lip service to the zero for twenty fifty,
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Speaker 2: but that's safely in the never never distance and it
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Speaker 2: won't happen. Joining me is the Political Panel Michael Kroger,
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Speaker 2: former Victorian Liberal President, Steven Conroy, former Lator senator and
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Speaker 2: Cabinet minister. Michael, what does this hincheon Brook result tell you?
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Speaker 8: Well, it's a terrific result for the Coalition party.
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Speaker 9: Look, the candidates made a big difference, right. The Catter
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Speaker 9: candidate was a former ALP councilor, which ALP are not
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Speaker 9: popular there, so that was a lot to do with
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Speaker 9: why our vote.
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Speaker 8: Went up so much. In these went down.
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Speaker 9: But Labour's vote what fourteen percent down to eight percent?
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Speaker 9: Now pump Some people say they didn't campaign that hard,
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Speaker 9: but eight percent that's not a good result. So what
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Speaker 9: it means is Stephen Miles has gone in a due course.
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Speaker 8: That's clear.
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Speaker 9: But I think the other thing is this as well
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Speaker 9: as crime being an issue. To take your point, Andrew,
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Speaker 9: I wonder whether people in Australia today now are starting
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Speaker 9: to take these matters into their own hands.
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Speaker 8: In terms of.
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Speaker 9: Electricity prices, they've listened for so long that renewals will
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Speaker 9: be cheaper, that's all going to be better, et cetera,
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Speaker 9: et cetera, And you've just got wave upon wave of
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Speaker 9: increases in bills, and people are now thinking we've been conned.
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Speaker 9: For all the reasons you've just extrapolated on. I think
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Speaker 9: they think they've been conned. They're no longer prepared to
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Speaker 9: listen to these zealots like Bowen. They want real jobs,
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Speaker 9: they want mine to operate. They know Australian exports keep
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Speaker 9: this country alive, particularly coal and iron.
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Speaker 8: Or et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 9: So the real world, lived experiences of people are now
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Speaker 9: trumping the promises they're getting from Canberra and from Brisbane.
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Speaker 2: Andrew, Now, Stephen, I'm not going to exaggerate and say
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Speaker 2: the Hint book was about energy policy at all, and
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Speaker 2: that's not my point. But with all this bad news
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Speaker 2: about the supposed move to wind and solar, you've got
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Speaker 2: investment drawing up. You've got to supply crisis of their
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Speaker 2: awing colifire plant closed in two years, agot worse wind
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Speaker 2: routs than predicted. How vulnerable now is the Albanezi government
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Speaker 2: on this issue?
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Speaker 10: Well, look, we just had an election not even nine
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Speaker 10: months ago where this was one of the front and
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Speaker 10: center issius and the little part of got spanked in
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Speaker 10: a way it's never been spanked before. Labor one a
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Speaker 10: record majority. So I don't think all of a commonry
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Speaker 10: that's surrounding this issue at the moment will make one
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Speaker 10: jot of difference in two and a half years time.
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Speaker 10: I think the transition will continue, right, Can.
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Speaker 2: I just correct or just clarify something there? At the
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Speaker 2: last selection, the Liberals were for net zero, Labor was
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Speaker 2: for net zero. That wasn't the debate. The debate was
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Speaker 2: whether the government should spend what a liberal government should
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Speaker 2: spend what Labor falsely claimed would be six hundred billion
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Speaker 2: dollars on nuclear reactors. That was what that issue was,
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Speaker 2: plus the general hopelessness of the Liberal campaign, So it
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Speaker 2: wasn't about net zero. I'm talking about net zero.
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Speaker 10: Well, I think that for three and a half years, Michael, yourself,
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Speaker 10: all of the Liberal Party and the National Party ran
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Speaker 10: a campaign on not lowering labor hadn't lowered energy prices,
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Speaker 10: and I repeat it had zero effect. In fact, the
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Speaker 10: party suffered its worst defeat in its history. So attempting
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Speaker 10: to recreate a policy debate around electricity when the Liberals
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Speaker 10: don't have an alternative, can't say when they're going to
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Speaker 10: lower prices, and are terrified to say that they're going
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Speaker 10: to build more colo.
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Speaker 2: Is so Labors position. It's not in trouble. Okay, all right,
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Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see, we'll see what you're saying.
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Speaker 10: The Liberal Party's position. The Liberal Party's position is actually
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Speaker 10: exactly the same as Chris Mins. We need to make
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Speaker 10: sure that we get the base load power continuing. And
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Speaker 10: just like Chris Mins has already done, where he's kept
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Speaker 10: the life of a power station going and is open
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Speaker 10: to discussion discussing it again. And that's what Chris Fooley
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Speaker 10: is doing. I mean, you like to say, ah, they're
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Speaker 10: backing coal in Therefore, nobody is going to invest in
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Speaker 10: these coal fire powerstations, well not new ones, and no
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Speaker 10: one's prepared to pay the maintenance to keep them upgraded.
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Speaker 10: So the Liberal Party position is as simple, Steve want
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Speaker 10: keeping the co power fire stations going.
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Speaker 2: Just a little bit longer her layrings.
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Speaker 10: Please, there's no red areas position that.
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Speaker 2: Only you can't invest in coal when you have governments
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Speaker 2: determined to run policies to close the coal fire POWERstation.
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Speaker 2: That is a very poor investment choice. It's set by
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Speaker 2: determined by government policy. Now, Michael Less good news. I
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Speaker 2: think I think it's been totally over sold. Is this
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Speaker 2: new pole in Victoria where Jess Wilson, the new thirty
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Speaker 2: five year old leader, looks fresh faced? Great? This poll said, oh,
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Speaker 2: this is wonderful. She's the preferred premiere Beaver more than
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Speaker 2: Brad Batten, the former opposition leader was until he was
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Speaker 2: a couple of months ago. Streets ahead of the premiere.
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Speaker 2: People are saying it's time for change. Blah blah blah.
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Speaker 2: Fantastic Except bottom line was the poll said fifty to
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Speaker 2: fifty party to party. It was fifty to fifty after preferences.
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Speaker 2: When Brad Batten in the same poll a couple of
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Speaker 2: weeks ago was ahead fifty forty nine. That's not good.
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Speaker 8: Well, look, I sort of tend to agree with you there.
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Speaker 9: To be honest, I've never regarded the preferred leader poll
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Speaker 9: as the important poll because the preferred leader is factored
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Speaker 9: into the two party preferred votes, so they know who
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Speaker 9: the leaders are. So after working out who the leader is,
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Speaker 9: they then decide who they want to vote for. So
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Speaker 9: the poll at the minute is fifty to fifty. Has
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Speaker 9: only been there a couple of weeks. She is very,
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Speaker 9: very formidable, as people will see in the next few months.
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Speaker 9: You've got someone with a very clear and good understanding
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Speaker 9: of economics. I mean dead in Victoria gross dead is
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Speaker 9: going to approach three hundred billion, Andrew the joint is bankrupt, right,
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Speaker 9: the joints bankrupt. They're going to need someone economic expertise,
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Speaker 9: and that's what Jess Wilson's got in Spain, She's the
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Speaker 9: most economically literate leader in Victoria for a generation since
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Speaker 9: Alan Stockdale was treasure treasurer. Probably, so that all goes
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Speaker 9: well for her polls to go up and people will
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Speaker 9: get the more they hear from her, the more confident
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Speaker 9: they're going to get in her that she knows what
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Speaker 9: she's doing.
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Speaker 8: And she's got a pretty good.
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Speaker 9: Team around her, her personal friendships around the Liberal Party
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Speaker 9: that she will rely on, you know, to get close
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Speaker 9: meetings to see what they think. She's got very good
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Speaker 9: people around her. Husband's and outstanding intellect. She's very close
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Speaker 9: obviously to James Patison, Lydia Patiss, Michael. These people are
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Speaker 9: very so Andrew. She's just started. She's been there five minutes,
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Speaker 9: so she's got.
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Speaker 8: A very good team around her.
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Speaker 2: Stephen early days, margin Navera, all that kind of thing.
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Speaker 2: She's got to get a feed under the table. I
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Speaker 2: got to say though, that she's been campaigning a lot
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Speaker 2: in you know, talking to economic groups, businesses and all that.
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Speaker 2: But I would suggest to her the election is going
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Speaker 2: to be one not in the boardrooms of Victoria, but
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Speaker 2: in the suburbs and the outer suburbs.
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Speaker 10: What do you say, Well, I think look, if I
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Speaker 10: was her, i'd be pleased with a poll like that
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Speaker 10: after a few weeks in the job. I think it's
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Speaker 10: a good solid foundation. As you heard me say a
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Speaker 10: number of times, I think she is formidable, she's tough,
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Speaker 10: she's smart, and she presents well. I mean, Andrew, I
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Speaker 10: think I've said to you that once the Liberal Party
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Speaker 10: found someone who could read right, not dribble on camera,
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Speaker 10: they begin to be competitive. And Jess is far better
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Speaker 10: than that. So I think you're starting to see there'll
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Speaker 10: be a bit more competition, But.
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Speaker 2: I don't look at what.
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Speaker 10: Allen's doing. Allan's already made enormous shifts on law and order,
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Speaker 10: enormous to the surprise.
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Speaker 2: That was pretty Batton that forced her to do that.
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Speaker 2: That was Brad Btton, not forced her to do that.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying a greater mistake, but I'm saying I'm
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Speaker 2: saying she's going to have to take the campaign out
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Speaker 2: into working Australia. I think Michael Kroegus, Steve Conroy, thank
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Speaker 2: you very much to you both.
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Speaker 8: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: After the break, the Albanezy government claims it's just done
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Speaker 2: the biggest defense shake up in fifty years. Wow. But
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Speaker 2: with China sending out another naval flotilla, is this really
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Speaker 2: instead the biggest defense waste of space? The Almeniza government
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Speaker 2: made an announcement today that I don't quite get it
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Speaker 2: said this is the biggest defense shakeup in fifty years,
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Speaker 2: which sounds well, you know, big. But before I explain
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Speaker 2: what it is or it isn't, let me paint the context.
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Speaker 2: And if you're serious, you would look at the rest
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Speaker 2: of the world and I think you should freak. I mean,
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Speaker 2: the picture is of a week west and a China
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Speaker 2: led coalition of villains and thugs and dictators, saying we've
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Speaker 2: got none this time. In Ukraine, you've got Russia. It
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Speaker 2: keeps attacking, keeps attacking civilians, and America and Europe keep
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Speaker 2: refusing to give Ukraine all the weapons it needs to
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Speaker 2: save itself. In Gaza, you've got Hamas terrorists refusing to disarm,
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Speaker 2: like US President Donald Trump demanded a couple of months ago,
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Speaker 2: and the US doesn't have the will to go and
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Speaker 2: make them. Then this China, of course, this is the
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Speaker 2: big one, Russia's biggest ally now telling our Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump separately and to their face, Taiwan is ours.
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Speaker 2: And when Japan's new prom ministers said, well, actually Japan
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Speaker 2: could defend Taiwan and if the was invaded, Chinese diplomats
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Speaker 2: threatened to cut her dirty neck and to break Japanese heads,
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Speaker 2: before canceling and visiting Japanese pop star mid Song to
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Speaker 2: Ram home a message and nagel And Today, Defense Minster
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Speaker 2: Richard Miles confirmed reports that a Chinese naval task force
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Speaker 2: another one could be on its way, like the one
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Speaker 2: in February that circled Australia, firing weapons under even aeroplane
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Speaker 2: layer traffic lanes, you know, just to send us a message.
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Speaker 5: I want to confirm today that Defense is monitoring a
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Speaker 5: Chinese PLA and task group which is currently in the
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Speaker 5: Philippines Sea, and we do not have a sense of
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Speaker 5: where it is going, but we continue to monitor it
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Speaker 5: as we monitor all movements, until we know that task
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Speaker 5: groups are not coming to Australia.
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Speaker 2: The worst was when Males was asked, would it be
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Speaker 2: like last time, we don't have enough ships to actually
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Speaker 2: monitor that, you know, tail the task Force? Would we
23:04
Speaker 2: have to again after New Zealand's Navy to help us out.
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Speaker 2: He couldn't even say, of course, Australia has enough naval
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Speaker 2: ships for something that's simple and so close to home.
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Speaker 5: Look, I'm not about to get into two hypothetic halls.
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Speaker 2: So you would expect that when Master today said he
23:22
Speaker 2: was announcing the biggest defense to shake up in fifty years,
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Speaker 2: it wouldn't sound like this. The creation of what he
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Speaker 2: called a Defense Delivery Group.
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Speaker 5: The Defense Delivery Agency will begin its life as the
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Speaker 5: Defense Delivery Group on the first of July next year,
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Speaker 5: when we will see the merging of three existing groups,
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Speaker 5: the Capability Acquisition and Sustainant Group, the Guided Weapons and
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Speaker 5: Explosive Ordinance Enterprise, and the Naval Shipbuilding and Sustainment Group
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Speaker 5: into what will be the Defense Delivery Group. In that
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Speaker 5: the same people who are currently undertaking their work in
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Speaker 5: these three groups will be undertaking their work in the
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Speaker 5: new Defense Delivery Group. And then on the first of
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Speaker 5: July twenty twenty seven, the Defense Delivery Group will become
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Speaker 5: the Defense Delivery Agency and be an independent agency.
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Speaker 2: After hearing that a bit you're saying and that is
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Speaker 2: the biggest defense shakeup in fifty years, that you know,
24:37
Speaker 2: a group that's going to focus more on delivery of projects,
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Speaker 2: which is good in alarm, you know, tell the government
24:43
Speaker 2: if anything's going wrong in faster time. Opposition defense spokesman
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Speaker 2: Angus Tale wasn't impressed.
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Speaker 11: The objective here has to be to get more capability
24:52
Speaker 11: and equipment into the hands of our war fighters. And
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Speaker 11: the risk here is this is just shuffling the deck chairs.
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Speaker 11: There's no new funding here, there's no sign of any
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Speaker 11: material savings, and it's very unclear how this is actually
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Speaker 11: going to deliver what we need.
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Speaker 2: When it's the country. Defense ritor Greg Sheridan of the
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Speaker 2: Australian Greg, good to see you. The biggest defense shaker
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Speaker 2: in fifty years, we're told, which sounds impressive, but.
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Speaker 3: Is it, Well, Andrew, it's good to be with you. Look,
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Speaker 3: this was an embarrassing performance by the Albanese government today.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Richard Males is becoming a figure beyond parody.
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Speaker 2: Really so.
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Speaker 3: Pat Conroy says it's the biggest change to the defense
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Speaker 3: organization in fifty years. Richard Marles, in the same press conference, says,
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Speaker 3: everyone currently working on their jobs in the current agencies
25:45
Speaker 3: will be working on their exactly the same jobs.
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Speaker 2: In the new agency.
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Speaker 3: The new agency, under one name, comes into existence next
25:54
Speaker 3: June next year, and then under its final name, it
25:58
Speaker 3: comes into existence in Lie of twenty twenty seven. Now,
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Speaker 3: I've watched these reforms go back and forth in defense
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Speaker 3: over many decades. What they're doing is amalgamating three agencies
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Speaker 3: into one agency. But guess what These agencies used to
26:12
Speaker 3: be one agency, and they disamalgamated them in order to
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Speaker 3: make them more effective. I mean, this is just meaningless
26:19
Speaker 3: folderol now the government. But there's as usual, there's a
26:22
Speaker 3: lot of madness going on behind the scenes. The government
26:25
Speaker 3: announced what it claims is the biggest organizational shake up
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Speaker 3: in fifty years, with a one and a half page
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Speaker 3: press release, no supporting documents, no other information, no timelines, nothing.
26:37
Speaker 3: Imagine the Hawk government announcing a huge defense change allegedly
26:42
Speaker 3: with that, and then the halfway through, Males started talking
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Speaker 3: about something else, you know, about monitoring Chinese ships in
26:52
Speaker 3: the Philippines, as though he couldn't keep his mind on
26:55
Speaker 3: defense equipment for any length of time. And then the
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Speaker 3: new arrangements, in any event, are incredibly vague and confusing.
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Speaker 3: So the new agency is meant to be an independent
27:05
Speaker 3: agency which will report separately to the government from the
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Speaker 3: Defense Department. But guess what, there's only one envelope of
27:11
Speaker 3: defense money. So either the head of the new agency
27:15
Speaker 3: is effectively the secretary of the Defense Department and the
27:18
Speaker 3: secretary no longer has any power, or he'll have to
27:22
Speaker 3: still go to the secretary to get his money. Now
27:25
Speaker 3: how do we work that out?
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Speaker 2: God alone knows.
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Speaker 8: They weren't telling us anything.
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Speaker 3: They briefed out quite aggressively before the announcement that this
27:34
Speaker 3: was going to see us get rid of thirty percent
27:38
Speaker 3: of senior officers, probably brigadier and above. Because the starred
27:44
Speaker 3: officers brigadier and above has doubled since twenty two thousand
27:48
Speaker 3: and three, and the senior executive service in defense has
27:51
Speaker 3: risen by eighty percent since two thousand and three.
27:54
Speaker 2: And yet we have the same number of war fighters.
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Speaker 3: So we obviously have a massively top heavy bureaucracy. But
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Speaker 3: then when he got to the actual press conference, Marles said,
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Speaker 3: there will be no job losses, no redundancies. I mean,
28:08
Speaker 3: what does it aught to amount to. It amounts to nothing.
28:11
Speaker 3: It amounts to nothing. And meantime, as Taylor said, but
28:14
Speaker 3: one new dollar of new capability they will and true.
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Speaker 2: Greg, not true, There's going to be a lot new
28:21
Speaker 2: a lot more business cards printed, a lot of business cards.
28:27
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, be serious, just quickly, Greg. Meanwhile,
28:32
Speaker 2: China's extraordinary threats to Japan to cut the Prime minister's
28:36
Speaker 2: quote dirty neck, to smash heads, what does that tell you?
28:42
Speaker 3: Well, I'm very worried about Donald Trump's actions lately, and
28:47
Speaker 3: of course we ought to if the Americans are becoming
28:50
Speaker 3: marginally less reliable, then we ought to be upgrading out
28:54
Speaker 3: offense capabilities as a matter.
28:56
Speaker 8: Of extreme urgency.
28:57
Speaker 3: But even these reforms we've just been talking don't come
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Speaker 3: in until late twenty twenty seven, so the government will
29:03
Speaker 3: have been in office almost as long as World War
29:05
Speaker 3: II went before it reforms procurement practices and hasn't procured anything.
29:10
Speaker 3: But the Chinese are beating up on the Japanese. Now
29:13
Speaker 3: we have not added a word of support for the Japanese,
29:17
Speaker 3: but neither has Donald Trump. And in fact, it's been
29:21
Speaker 3: revealed that Trump told the Japanese Prime Minister to quiet
29:25
Speaker 3: and down and stop provoking China in a phone call
29:28
Speaker 3: with her, at the request of the Chinese. That was
29:31
Speaker 3: revealed in Trump's phone conversation with the Japanese Prime minister. Now,
29:36
Speaker 3: I'm very worried with the pressure that Trump is putting
29:39
Speaker 3: on Zelenski to basically run up the white flag in
29:42
Speaker 3: Ukraine in the interests of Russia. That Trump is drifting
29:46
Speaker 3: into this mood that he sometimes has where he just
29:49
Speaker 3: wants to deal with the big men and bugger allies
29:53
Speaker 3: and so forth. And I'll tell you what, Japan is
29:55
Speaker 3: a thousand times more important of the United States than
29:58
Speaker 3: Australia is. And if they're willing to leave Japan drifting
30:02
Speaker 3: in the wind in the face of Chinese threats, I'm
30:06
Speaker 3: a bit concerned about us, and yet of course we're
30:09
Speaker 3: doing nothing. No job losses, no capability gains, nothing.
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Speaker 2: Oh, Greg, it is a mess. I've got to say
30:17
Speaker 2: that the Japanese, some Japanese spokesman said no, there wasn't
30:20
Speaker 2: such a call from Trump. But I don't think I
30:23
Speaker 2: believed that at all. I thought the original report was
30:26
Speaker 2: pretty well sourced. Greg Sheridan, thank you so much for
30:29
Speaker 2: your time coming over to the break. The Pope sends
30:34
Speaker 2: godless Melbourne a message an actor guy I peas now
30:37
Speaker 2: wish is he hadn't sent a vile one himself. The
30:44
Speaker 2: first American Pope, Leo the fourteenth, yesterday sent a surprise
30:48
Speaker 2: message to pilgrims at the Australian Catholic Youth Festival in Melbourne.
30:54
Speaker 2: It wasn't a political message at all, but so many
30:57
Speaker 2: people there, you know, feeling their there's no meaning in life.
31:01
Speaker 2: I mean that in we in Melbourne feeling isolated, atimized
31:05
Speaker 2: after the lockdowns etc. Unrooted. This was a message that
31:10
Speaker 2: even asen on Christian think, needed to be heard.
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Speaker 12: We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution.
31:19
Speaker 12: Each of us is the result of a thought of God.
31:23
Speaker 12: Each of us is willed, each of us is loved,
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Speaker 12: each of us is necessary. Our lives therefore find their
31:34
Speaker 12: ultimate purpose in becoming who God made us to be,
31:39
Speaker 12: in other words, by living out His will in our lives.
31:45
Speaker 12: Saint Catherine of Siena one said, be who God made
31:49
Speaker 12: you to be, and you will set the world on fire.
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Speaker 2: Joining me is the panel former Federal labor in p
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Speaker 2: Michael Danby and Lisa Godaud, former foreign correspondent and founder
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Speaker 2: of Don't Eat Media. Lisa don't mean to lay a
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Speaker 2: heavy Catholic message there, but I have to say there.
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Speaker 2: It was sent to probably the most anti Catholic of
32:14
Speaker 2: Australian cities, the city which jailed the innocent Cardinal George
32:18
Speaker 2: Pearl for a crime it turned out it could not
32:20
Speaker 2: possibly have committed. And it's a city so left wing
32:23
Speaker 2: that people are not treated as individuals as Leo urge,
32:26
Speaker 2: but as racial types. Do you think this kind of
32:31
Speaker 2: Melbourne could ever be ripe for a religious revival?
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Speaker 4: Well, Andrew, you have to think you're living in a
32:36
Speaker 4: city in Melbourne where you've got social cohesion breaking down, lawlessness.
32:40
Speaker 4: You see the reports every day in the media about
32:42
Speaker 4: more and more crime. You would think that people of
32:45
Speaker 4: melbourn which would start to stand back and go, you
32:47
Speaker 4: know what, maybe we could do with some Christian values
32:49
Speaker 4: in this city. If anywhere is looking for hope and
32:52
Speaker 4: needing a miracle, you would think it would be Melbourne alone.
32:55
Speaker 4: Because at the moment you've got a generation of kids
32:57
Speaker 4: who have come through, they've been fed everything through on line.
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Speaker 4: A lot of them want to belong to something, and
33:02
Speaker 4: increasingly we're seeing people turning it back to Christianity because
33:05
Speaker 4: I want that moral compass if you like some values,
33:08
Speaker 4: and like I said, it wouldn't be bad for that
33:10
Speaker 4: city to start to look at each other and go,
33:12
Speaker 4: you know, do good by thy neighbor.
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Speaker 2: Well, there is that too, Absolutely correct, Michael. I'm not
33:19
Speaker 2: going to ask a good Jewish man to start praising
33:22
Speaker 2: a Catholic message. So I'm going to switch to the
33:24
Speaker 2: vilification that Jews are going through now, which.
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Speaker 13: I thought it was a very dignified message, very dignified
33:32
Speaker 13: and a very hopeful message. And it was so interesting
33:35
Speaker 13: that the Pope framed it to young people who are
33:39
Speaker 13: terribly affected by you know, doom scrolling and social media
33:45
Speaker 13: and the terrible climate cults that sort of makes them
33:51
Speaker 13: not want to have children themselves. So I think it
33:53
Speaker 13: was a very very important message to young Melbournians.
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Speaker 2: Well, also it's got something to come with Judaism and
34:03
Speaker 2: stressing the dignity of each individual, which I think is
34:07
Speaker 2: just so crucial and something we're missing out on at
34:11
Speaker 2: the moment in this tribe, new tribalism, but the verification
34:16
Speaker 2: of Jews Michael Australian actor Guy Pierce's astonishing example. It's
34:22
Speaker 2: had to apologize, even scrub this social media accounts after
34:25
Speaker 2: being caught retweeting posts like this, blaming Jews and even
34:29
Speaker 2: a rabbi for running the top three porn sites, blaming
34:34
Speaker 2: Jewish Zionists for creating casinos and hotels causing gambling, addictions
34:39
Speaker 2: of prostitution, causing corruption, and even said I have never
34:44
Speaker 2: been so disgusted by a group of people in my
34:46
Speaker 2: life as I am by Israeli's every day. I witnessed
34:48
Speaker 2: the utter disregarding misstate for Palestinian life. Look, it staggers
34:54
Speaker 2: me that a man can post these things these days
34:57
Speaker 2: like that. Do you accept his apology?
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Speaker 13: Well, Shakespeare said, shame shame at Eernl's shame. I don't.
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Speaker 13: It's a bigoted stereotype of israelis all Israelis go the
35:10
Speaker 13: Buttsheverard Dance Company and all of the Nobel Prize winners
35:15
Speaker 13: there and the high tech inventors. Look, this is We've
35:19
Speaker 13: always had crazy actors Andrew, you know, Gerre Depa DU's
35:24
Speaker 13: a putent troll, and we had hanoid Jane on the
35:27
Speaker 13: anti aircraft gun in Vietnam, and we've got crazy Susan Saradon.
35:32
Speaker 13: But this is really disgusting for Guy Pearce. What a
35:36
Speaker 13: dissent from La Confidential and Jack Irish to this kind
35:40
Speaker 13: of you know, stereotype branding all people. It just shows
35:46
Speaker 13: you how crazy the world has become as a result
35:50
Speaker 13: of the media coverage of the conflict in the Middle East.
35:53
Speaker 13: It's just people like him have gone, you know, beyond
35:58
Speaker 13: the pale.
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Speaker 2: Lisa, what do you make of it? Because for me, yeah,
36:03
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a particularly bright person. And what
36:07
Speaker 2: horrifies me about that it's not just the contented of
36:09
Speaker 2: the course, but then he's so thoughtlessly posts it as if,
36:13
Speaker 2: of course his fans would like it, that I think
36:16
Speaker 2: is frightening.
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Speaker 4: Well, he also said it was about he was apologizing
36:21
Speaker 4: for causing confusion and distress. There's no acknowledgment there of
36:24
Speaker 4: what he's actually done, which is fuel hatred and fuel divisiveness.
36:29
Speaker 4: So that's what he's actually done here, and he hasn't
36:31
Speaker 4: taken full responsibility for it. I don't think and seriously
36:34
Speaker 4: instead of saying okay, well I will now shut down
36:36
Speaker 4: my social media accounts so that I don't cause any
36:38
Speaker 4: future problems, basically it's not good enough. If he has
36:42
Speaker 4: a position which he is a role model, he has influence.
36:44
Speaker 4: He knows that because that's why he's wearing a pin
36:47
Speaker 4: to the oscars making such political statements. He has to
36:50
Speaker 4: take that responsibility like all people who have a platform,
36:53
Speaker 4: and do your research, do your fact checking. It's that
36:55
Speaker 4: side of politics that will always say, you know, it's
36:57
Speaker 4: fake news. It's about time they start to do some
36:59
Speaker 4: proper checking and make sure that it's not just a
37:01
Speaker 4: simple repost, because it is never a simple repost.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was extraordinary about the closing of
37:09
Speaker 2: his science. I think it probably is protected himself from
37:12
Speaker 2: masking anything else that's so vile and there will hurt
37:15
Speaker 2: him rather than anyone else. For me, primier, Sir Anthony
37:18
Speaker 2: alban easy. Michael got married on the weekend and I
37:20
Speaker 2: want to congratulate him on his happiness. His bride seems
37:24
Speaker 2: a nice person, They seem happy. The wedding seemed intimate,
37:28
Speaker 2: not made into a political event at all. All in all,
37:31
Speaker 2: very good stuff. And his offer his honeymoon for a
37:35
Speaker 2: week only. I think he'll be back and fighting because
37:38
Speaker 2: I suspect he knows that Susan Lee, the Opposition leader,
37:41
Speaker 2: is working right through summer apart from the Christmas New
37:44
Speaker 2: Year break, and today laid out her summer theme. Here
37:47
Speaker 2: she is this.
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Speaker 7: Prime Minister has in fact delivered these three things that
37:55
Speaker 7: he should hang his head in shame with one of them.
37:59
Speaker 7: Higher inflation, higher power crisis, higher cost of living. So
38:03
Speaker 7: when the Prime Minister gets back from his leave, he
38:05
Speaker 7: needs to focus his attention urgently on the struggling Australians.
38:10
Speaker 2: Michael, as you know, you know, Sumers used to be
38:12
Speaker 2: when politicians could finally ease up after a hectic year
38:16
Speaker 2: of fight fate fate. But susinly it's not going to die.
38:19
Speaker 2: Wondering if she can keep her leadership, whether she can
38:23
Speaker 2: stop Andrew Hasier Angus Taylor replacing her, possibly in a
38:27
Speaker 2: challenge in a couple of months months. Do you think
38:30
Speaker 2: she can do it?
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Speaker 13: I'm surprised, like you Andrew, that she seems to have
38:34
Speaker 13: been doing remarkably well this last few weeks. I think
38:37
Speaker 13: since they changed their policy on net zero, I didn't
38:40
Speaker 13: realize her engineering background that you mentioned before, and I
38:44
Speaker 13: think that is leading into her more confidence with the
38:49
Speaker 13: effect on electricity prices of our renewable only policy. I
38:54
Speaker 13: think the Minister for Windmills is something she's going to
38:58
Speaker 13: focus on. Chrisp On during the summer and Albow better
39:02
Speaker 13: get back to work. We all wish him well and
39:05
Speaker 13: second marriages are very common in Australia. Good on him,
39:08
Speaker 13: but he'll need to be back there defending his tribe
39:12
Speaker 13: if Susan Lee's not going to start cutting through on
39:14
Speaker 13: electricity prices in particular and the ridiculous renewables only policy
39:19
Speaker 13: that the Minister for Windmills insists on.
39:24
Speaker 2: I like Minister for Windmills, although I think a very
39:27
Speaker 2: protective of Don Quixote the book. I think it is
39:30
Speaker 2: one of the greatest ever written. I don't like you
39:32
Speaker 2: being treated in mockery like this, But Lisa, what do
39:36
Speaker 2: you think are the public ready for a debate about
39:40
Speaker 2: all this in early January or can Susan league Well,
39:47
Speaker 2: I don't know if she's got much option but to fight, fight,
39:49
Speaker 2: fight as hard as you can for the next couple
39:51
Speaker 2: of months. Can she carry it off?
39:53
Speaker 4: Well, firstly, my first observation is she's become much tighter
39:57
Speaker 4: on her messaging. They've really done some work I think
39:59
Speaker 4: in the background, simplified down and look at what is
40:01
Speaker 4: going to cut through. And if she sticks to that,
40:03
Speaker 4: and she has this clear runway now with Alberanezi off
40:05
Speaker 4: on his honeymoon and yes, congratulations to the PM, but
40:08
Speaker 4: she has to use this runway now when she's got
40:10
Speaker 4: clear air to actually push that and argue those points.
40:13
Speaker 4: Because this is AE. We know, unless there's a cyclone
40:16
Speaker 4: or a fire, the news cycle now is pretty quiet.
40:18
Speaker 4: You haven't got Parliament there to sort of take over
40:20
Speaker 4: the new cycle. So she has an opportunity. She floundered
40:23
Speaker 4: in the beginning because she didn't have that clear messaging.
40:25
Speaker 4: She couldn't come out and said this is what our
40:26
Speaker 4: policy is.
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Speaker 2: She has one.
40:28
Speaker 4: Now, she has good messaging. She has to run for
40:30
Speaker 4: it and as far as Alberanzi goes, look at least
40:33
Speaker 4: the reports are he was in an economy seat, so
40:35
Speaker 4: no doubt he's learnt from the Ellen Joyce failures of
40:38
Speaker 4: those private upgrades that he got on those private flights.
40:40
Speaker 4: Like a long time ago.
40:43
Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty interesting in economy. Yes, banded
40:48
Speaker 2: the people and that's the only political note here that
40:51
Speaker 2: he can't be seen in the business. But good on
40:54
Speaker 2: him and wish him all the best. But I have
40:56
Speaker 2: to say, Michael, you know, and Lisa, the clear air
41:00
Speaker 2: that she needs is not from labor. She needs it
41:03
Speaker 2: from the people trying to undermine her within her own
41:05
Speaker 2: party and getting the Victorian disease of dragging the Liberals
41:09
Speaker 2: down in order to boost their own chances. Oh my god,
41:13
Speaker 2: if they just give her a break, who knows what
41:16
Speaker 2: might happen. Michael Danby Lisa got out. Thank you very
41:20
Speaker 2: much to you both coming up after the break. What
41:23
Speaker 2: the Liberals can learn from Nagel Farage's bad news? Maybe
41:32
Speaker 2: for theeral liberals have been wondering we should be looking
41:36
Speaker 2: at the revolutions of the right overseas, Donald Trump in
41:42
Speaker 2: the US, Nigel Farage in Britain. I mean, Nigel Farrage
41:46
Speaker 2: has just got five seats in Parliament at the moment,
41:50
Speaker 2: but you've got polls that have been showing him looking
41:52
Speaker 2: like a runaway whinter at the next election, with more
41:54
Speaker 2: support than the Labor government, Conservative oppositionally opposition combined anti immigration,
42:01
Speaker 2: anti net zero. It was all working. But the may
42:06
Speaker 2: indeed be a lesson for the Liberals in Naja Farrage.
42:11
Speaker 2: But it's a bit different than you might expect. The
42:14
Speaker 2: latest poles, the very latest poll show a big drop
42:16
Speaker 2: in support for Farag's Reform party. It's still on top,
42:19
Speaker 2: not no question about that, but the Conservatives now got
42:23
Speaker 2: off the floor, nearly caught up with Labor and well,
42:26
Speaker 2: it's all looking something to look interesting. And that has
42:30
Speaker 2: happened after the Conservatives toughened up their talking immigration, scrapped
42:35
Speaker 2: the net zero target, and it was after leader Kemy
42:39
Speaker 2: Badenock got puncher in parliament too, really going for labor.
42:42
Speaker 2: All of that seems to me, well, what's happening right
42:46
Speaker 2: at the moment or could the liberals here are going
42:49
Speaker 2: to do their immigration policy very soon? Join me from
42:52
Speaker 2: London is Talk TV presented Samara Gil Samara, great see
42:57
Speaker 2: you again and admiring your career taking off over there
43:02
Speaker 2: it's so wonderful. Why is Dougia Farage on the slide,
43:07
Speaker 2: although I should point out he is still leading.
43:11
Speaker 14: Look, the first thing to say is, yes, Nigel Frage
43:14
Speaker 14: is still very much comfortably in front. Anyone who's sort
43:18
Speaker 14: of writing his political obituary is doing it far too early.
43:22
Speaker 14: That's not happening. But you are right, there is a
43:25
Speaker 14: noticeable slide kind of down from him. And what's shocked
43:29
Speaker 14: a lot of people is that for months, almost a
43:32
Speaker 14: full year, we've had total Farage mania over here. Sort
43:35
Speaker 14: of whatever Farage does, all the other political parties then
43:40
Speaker 14: do so he speaks, they do it. And I feel
43:43
Speaker 14: like what's happened is pretty simple. It's exactly as you said, Andrew,
43:47
Speaker 14: and I think Australia's sort of liberals could learn a
43:50
Speaker 14: thing or two from it. They finally woke up from
43:53
Speaker 14: their coma Kemmy Baidenok, who was hugely unlikable when she
43:57
Speaker 14: came in. She did toughen up illegal migrant messaging the crime.
44:03
Speaker 14: They also junked all the net zero deadlines that they
44:07
Speaker 14: have originally brought in, so that was their own mess
44:10
Speaker 14: that they're now saying that they caused. And crucially they
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Speaker 14: basically started talking to what Farage calls the alarm clock class.
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Speaker 14: So you know, these are the people that get up
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Speaker 14: before dawn, they pay their taxes, they keep the lights on.
44:22
Speaker 14: They feel totally ignored by the labor government over here
44:25
Speaker 14: at the moment. But unfortunately, I do think it's a
44:28
Speaker 14: very similar situation to what the Liberal Party in Australia
44:31
Speaker 14: is dealing with. Sort of they are finally echoing these
44:35
Speaker 14: issues that reform has put in place and sort of
44:39
Speaker 14: put reform into a surge, which is obviously the illegal migration,
44:43
Speaker 14: the energy, the crime. But the issue is you can
44:46
Speaker 14: just say you had fourteen years to do it, Conservatives,
44:49
Speaker 14: and you didn't. And I feel like Australia has got
44:51
Speaker 14: the same issue.
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Speaker 2: Oh look, no, a spot on, but I mean, if
44:57
Speaker 2: you might as well start doing it now. I shouldn't
44:59
Speaker 2: have should have taken this long, shouldn't have taken that
45:02
Speaker 2: prod like here, it's one nation giving a red hot go.
45:07
Speaker 2: They should have done it before. But it's best they
45:09
Speaker 2: start right now that not do it at all. One
45:12
Speaker 2: of the things I think is very interesting the Conservatives
45:15
Speaker 2: are pushing is one that's in language. I doubt the
45:19
Speaker 2: Liberals could get away with here, or maybe I'm wrong.
45:21
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a pitch to the working poor,
45:24
Speaker 2: and we've got them here too, people that work, work, work,
45:27
Speaker 2: and find that can barely afford the food in the
45:29
Speaker 2: supermarket with inflation and all that. In Britain it's framed
45:34
Speaker 2: as the workers are paying for shirkers for people on
45:38
Speaker 2: what the Conservatives are calling benefits street or whatever. And
45:41
Speaker 2: that was actually best expressed by TikTok video by a
45:45
Speaker 2: bricklayer that went viral showing him at work in the
45:49
Speaker 2: snow saying some days I want to give up, but
45:52
Speaker 2: there are people on benefits depending on me. Very sarcastic,
45:56
Speaker 2: but I think their message is over. Why is that
45:59
Speaker 2: video a nerve?
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Speaker 6: You know?
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Speaker 14: I think it's hitting a nerve well, especially here in Britain,
46:06
Speaker 14: but also in Australia, because at least in Britain you've
46:09
Speaker 14: got one million foreign nationals on benefits per year. You've
46:14
Speaker 14: got sort of more one million more British people joined
46:17
Speaker 14: the welfare system just last year under this shiny new
46:20
Speaker 14: labor government that we brought into power. As I said,
46:23
Speaker 14: you've got crime going up, especially violent youth crime, and
46:27
Speaker 14: you've got a lot of youths going directly on benefits,
46:30
Speaker 14: you know, claiming I've got anxiety, I've got depression, something
46:33
Speaker 14: that I actually think a job would fix the most.
46:36
Speaker 14: So you are getting this nation that is very, very
46:39
Speaker 14: reliant on the state. And then to add to that,
46:42
Speaker 14: over here in Britain, you've got a legal migration. We've
46:44
Speaker 14: got one hundred and ten thousand people that entered the
46:47
Speaker 14: country illegally last year and thousands of them are coming
46:50
Speaker 14: across the channel in small boats. Now obviously thanks to
46:53
Speaker 14: Tony Abbott and Operation Sovereign Borders, we don't have that
46:56
Speaker 14: problem in Australia, the small boat one at least. But
47:00
Speaker 14: you know, these asylum seekers, they're being placed in four
47:02
Speaker 14: star hotels in the center of these working class communities.
47:06
Speaker 14: So I've done quite a lot of reporting over here
47:08
Speaker 14: in Britain, and you know, you've got people who are
47:10
Speaker 14: choosing between giving their children lunch or dinner, and then
47:15
Speaker 14: you've got migrants being put up in four star hotels
47:18
Speaker 14: getting three hot meals a day. So you can see
47:20
Speaker 14: that there is this chasm in this class divibe that's
47:23
Speaker 14: going on in Britain where you know, they're more and
47:26
Speaker 14: more we're seeing working people working just to fund those
47:30
Speaker 14: who want to sit at home and do nothing.
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Speaker 2: Quite frankly, except in Australia, difficulty for the liberals would
47:37
Speaker 2: be that I think something like half of Australian's the
47:41
Speaker 2: government is their main source of income in a salary,
47:44
Speaker 2: pension benefit or whatever, So that might be interpreted as
47:47
Speaker 2: a bit too close to the bone for them. Just
47:50
Speaker 2: very quickly, the hatred of the left for a nightgropash
47:53
Speaker 2: off the scale and there's fairly claims from historian Lisa
47:57
Speaker 2: Hilton has presented documentaries for the BBC. A BBC makeup
48:01
Speaker 2: artists used bodily fluids when doing Faraja's makeup when he
48:05
Speaker 2: appeared on That can't be true, Kennet. You've got twenty
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Speaker 2: seconds to say yes or no.
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Speaker 14: This is shocking. The hatred is off the scales. Whenever
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Speaker 14: Nigel's come into the studio in London he remembers the
48:18
Speaker 14: assistant producer's name from six weeks ago. So it's ridiculous
48:22
Speaker 14: and it's outrageous and he should sue if this is true, Andrew,
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Speaker 14: But is it true?
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Speaker 2: But with the BBC, with some of the scandals we've
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Speaker 2: seen there, Samara, I don't put anything past them. Samara Gill,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. That's it for me,
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Speaker 2: coming up next Shrry Markson, but for me good night,