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Fall Adventures: Practical Magic & Cemetery Tours · PNW Haunts & Homicides

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Have you seen Practical Magic?
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  Speaker 2: Obviously.
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  Speaker 1: One of our favorite movies. Love fucking Practical Magic. And
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: I learned something very recently that I had no idea about.
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  Speaker 1: And I was so fucking excited, you guys. I have
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: to take a drink. I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Well, don't leave us hanging.
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  Speaker 1: The downtown scenes in Practical Magic were filmed in a
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  Speaker 1: little seaside town called Coopville, Washington. On Whidbey Island.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know this?
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 1: Did you find this out this year like me or
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  Speaker 1: did you already know? Hi, Caitlin. Hi, Cassie. Hi, creepy people. Hello!
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  Speaker 1: If you're new to our creepy corner of the world,
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  Speaker 1: this is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat about
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  Speaker 1: true crime, the paranormal, and all things spooky in the
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  Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest.
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  Speaker 2: That we do. We also... Well, you.
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  Speaker 1: Keep forgetting the P & W if you're nasty.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. Okay. Well, I'll just say that. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Editors fix this.
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  Speaker 2: I love being a passenger princess. P & W if
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  Speaker 2: you're nasty.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We also do a tarot reading at the end of
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  Speaker 2: every episode for a little bit of deeper insight into
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  Speaker 2: our topic. Like pumpkin butts.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh. Are we talking about pumpkin booties today? Sexy little
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  Speaker 1: pumpkin booties.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to have to tell me.
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  Speaker 1: For those of you that aren't watching the video, I
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  Speaker 1: have a little pumpkin booty pin on my mic.
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  Speaker 2: There she does.
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  Speaker 1: That's where that's coming from. And I have McGruff.
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  Speaker 2: He's not quite at the right angle in this shot.
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  Speaker 2: I'm now realizing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: But he's there.
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  Speaker 1: He takes a bite out of crime. Is that his slogan?
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  Speaker 2: That he does. Yeah. I think that's exactly what it
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  Speaker 2: says on the pin. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's too small for me to read. Yeah. Well, that's fair. Well, unfortunately,
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: today is not about pumpkin booties, but we do have
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  Speaker 1: some fun stuff to talk about. Have you seen Practical Magic?
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  Speaker 2: Obviously.
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  Speaker 1: One of our favorite movies. Love fucking Practical Magic. And
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: I learned something. Very recently that I had no idea about.
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: And I was so fucking excited. You guys, I have
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: to take a drink. I'm so excited.
• 2:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: Well, don't leave us hanging.
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: The downtown scenes in Practical Magic were filmed in a
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: little seaside town called Coopville, Washington. On Whidbey Island.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: Did you know this? I did. Did you find this
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  Speaker 1: out this year like me or did you already know?
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  Speaker 2: Um, I don't think I previously knew. I think I
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  Speaker 2: stumbled upon this a few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: This popped up in my Google, you know, where it
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  Speaker 1: has like suggestions of things of like articles to click.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, practical magic. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: no fucking way.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 1: To me, too. It's so funny. I wonder how many
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  Speaker 1: other people this happened to, but.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I will say.
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  Speaker 1: Don't say anything because that's in my episode.
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  Speaker 3: You don't even know what.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. No, I went to Raven's Manor.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Last night. We went for Chris's birthday to celebrate for
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  Speaker 2: also his mom and his brother. Some fun life events
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  Speaker 2: that are going on for them.
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  Speaker 1: And....
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So we went to Raven's Manor. We did the photo booth.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, fun. I haven't done the photo booth yet because
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  Speaker 1: it was like pretty new and we went last and
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  Speaker 1: then we forgot about it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I specifically told Chris, I was like, don't forget the
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  Speaker 1: photo booth. Yeah. I want to do that.
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  Speaker 2: We did that. And then also there is a tequila
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  Speaker 2: tasting experience. Oh. Named, I don't know, something about Sanderson Sisters.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, like my shirt. Why would they name the tequila
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  Speaker 1: after the Sanderson sisters?
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  Speaker 2: Midnight Margaritas.
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  Speaker 1: That's a different movie.
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  Speaker 2: I know, but I feel like it's just a vibe.
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  Speaker 2: But like, why wouldn't they name it Midnight Margaritas?
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Sanderson sisters. And yeah, it just they took all of
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  Speaker 2: the witchiness and they're just like. And they smashed it together.
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  Speaker 1: And like a Play-Doh ball of a bunch of different colors. Yeah. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. That bothers me now, though, that they
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  Speaker 1: named it Sanderson Sisters and not after Practical Magic.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I was like, Sanderson.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, wait.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny, though, that I'm wearing the shirt. Yeah. It
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  Speaker 1: all connects.
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  Speaker 2: It all connects. It all circles back.
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  Speaker 1: Back to real Practical Magic and not the Sanderson Sisters.
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  Speaker 1: We are, what is their name? What's their last name
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  Speaker 1: in there? Oh, God.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll look.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows? Typing is not. owens owens that yeah yeah
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  Speaker 1: yeah okay back to the owens sisters so all of
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  Speaker 1: the buildings in this little seaside town were painted white
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  Speaker 1: for the filming of practical magic.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting i.
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  Speaker 1: Know but they have since repainted them back to their
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  Speaker 1: original colors so they're not all white but i thought
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  Speaker 1: that was like kind of interesting yeah i never really
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  Speaker 1: i guess i never really noticed in the film all
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  Speaker 1: of the buildings are white Are.
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  Speaker 2: They supposed to be in the Pacific Northwest in the movie?
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  Speaker 1: No, I think they're like on the East Coast. That's exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: like based on the East Coast, right? And I think
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  Speaker 2: the white buildings on the coast, that's way more like it.
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  Speaker 2: To me, the white buildings along the eastern seaboard, like
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  Speaker 2: it just thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like it's not as much of a
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  Speaker 2: thing here on the West Coast. So it makes sense
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  Speaker 2: because they're like, we're just trying to make this coast
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  Speaker 2: look like that coast.
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  Speaker 1: You should Google real quick where it was set because
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  Speaker 1: I always just assumed it was East Coast because witches.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I never really thought about it being connected to Pacific Northwest.
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  Speaker 1: So I wonder like why they shot it here.
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  Speaker 2: New England.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We're not right. Okay. This next part like slightly
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  Speaker 1: crushed my little creepy heart.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Like when we talked about the Beetlejuice house. Uh-oh. So
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  Speaker 1: there is a lot of movie houses that I'm totally
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  Speaker 1: in love with. But the freaking Practical Magic house is
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  Speaker 1: like my all-time favorite. I feel like it's everyone's dream house. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: What happened to it? The Practical Magic house was right
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  Speaker 1: here in the Pacific Northwest as well on San Juan Island. Yep. Uh-huh. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: it was just a shell built for the filming and
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: then taken down. So it was not a real house.
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  Speaker 2: Do we know which of the San Juan Islands that
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  Speaker 2: it was on?
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  Speaker 1: It says on San Juan Island.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know like. There is a San Juan.
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  Speaker 2: I believe there is a San Juan, but there's like
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  Speaker 2: a strip of islands that are all categorized as like
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  Speaker 2: the San Juan Islands. Like there's Orcas and.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to like kind of Google it and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know. You're like, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But so I don't know exactly where, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: there anymore. I think is probably why I gave up
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. But yeah, you're like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't care anymore. It's not real. Although the interior of
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  Speaker 1: the home was also just a set, it was modeled
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  Speaker 1: after a real home located on San Juan Valley Road.
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  Speaker 1: So it was modeled after a real house, the interior.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. So while I was researching this, I
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  Speaker 1: actually stumbled upon a little blog by our friend Amy
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  Speaker 1: in the PNW. Stop it.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, Amy did a little blog post about this.
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  Speaker 1: And in her blog post, it says they just announced
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  Speaker 1: summer of 2024 that Practical Magic 2 is being filmed. Really?
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  Speaker 1: And Evie will keep updating her blog as things unfold.
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  Speaker 1: So I will put a link to her blog in there.
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  Speaker 1: So keep an eye on that. And then there's more
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  Speaker 1: info and pictures because she actually goes to these places
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  Speaker 1: and takes pictures herself. So if you want to see
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: pictures of that, go to her blog. Check it out.
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  Speaker 1: Super cute.
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: We're going to be doing some more field trips coming
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  Speaker 2: up now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we have some stuff. I've got so.
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  Speaker 2: Much free time now that I'm done being a wedding coordinator.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We can go crazy. We're hitting the town.
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  Speaker 2: Painting it red. And or white.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say, and or white. This town
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  Speaker 1: actually still celebrates every year with a practically magic movie night.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: Love it. I know. So fucking cute. I want to go.
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  Speaker 1: This year it's October 24th, 25th, and 26th. And when
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  Speaker 1: I went to the site, I saw this adorable picture
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  Speaker 1: of one of the buildings. It's Aqua Gifts in the photo. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it has, like, the outline of the witches on
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  Speaker 1: the roof. Like, when they have their little umbrellas and
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  Speaker 1: they go to jump off, they have that little picture
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  Speaker 1: on there. Oh, it's so cute.
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  Speaker 2: I'm tea cuddling.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. Very fitting for the day. What's your shirt say?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just here for the tea. What's behind me? Teacup.
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  Speaker 2: So weird. I know.
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  Speaker 3: Weird.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll talk about that later.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: As soon as I came back in here, you're like,
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  Speaker 2: you changed into that? And I was like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm wearing it, aren't I? I don't... I never know.
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  Speaker 2: And I got all the way to my closet and
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: it's on... It's like... 50 feet that way i just
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  Speaker 2: i didn't want to come back and ask you like
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  Speaker 2: what am i supposed to wear to be on theme
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  Speaker 2: and you don't even need to ask yeah it's out
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  Speaker 2: telepathically or like something with tea what did your shirt
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  Speaker 2: say did we say it out loud i'm just here
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: for the tea Sometimes.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: We forget you can't see us all the time. We'll
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: go to YouTube. Yes. Go to YouTube to see us.
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  Speaker 2: The YouTube and all the Patreon.
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  Speaker 1: So along with the screening of the movie Practical Magic,
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  Speaker 1: there is a costume contest, trivia and filming anecdotes, music
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  Speaker 1: and popcorn. And of course, midnight margaritas.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: They happen all night, not just at midnight. And they
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  Speaker 1: do a beer and wine. In case you don't want
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: a margarita, but you should. The town, of course, has fun,
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  Speaker 1: spooky events that aren't movie related. So if you want
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: to just go there and hang out and do their
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: other spooky stuff.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: You can.
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  Speaker 1: Well, these are cool, though. They have a torchlight parade
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: and street dance on October 26th. And the great Coopville
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  Speaker 1: pumpkin race on the 27th. Oh, that's fun. Like they just,
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: what do they do? Roll their pumpkins?
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know how it works.
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing. If you don't, you know, want to visit Coopville,
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: if it's like too cute for you, you can go
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: to Hillsboro, which we've never heard of. I know. Which
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: is a suburb of Portland, kind of. And there is
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: a Witchy shop there that we've talked about before. We've
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: had them on the pod through the veil. And on 1030,
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: they're having a family-friendly Samhain celebration. And they're doing s'mores
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: around the fire, sipping cider and or hot cocoa while
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: a kid-friendly movie is playing.
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: Stop it.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: Kid-friendly Halloween movie. Hello. It's like Casper or something, kid-friendly.
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  Speaker 2: Which is perfect because if it's kid-friendly, that means I
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: can watch it.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: But if you don't care about kids, if you don't
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: have kids, you know, whatever.
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: There is an adult Samhain celebration on the 31st on Halloween,
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  Speaker 1: ages 16 and up. So their website says to join
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  Speaker 1: us around the fire while the veil is at its
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: thinnest as we honor and communicate with, question mark, those
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: who have crossed to the other side. They will also
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: be having a lantern dance performance by the PDX Dancing Witches.
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: That sounds so cool.
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  Speaker 1: I know. It sounds so fun. So they also have
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  Speaker 1: an ancestor altar where you can bring photos or something
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: to represent a loved one who has crossed over. And
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: they'll also have offerings and candles to lights if you
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: want to go and do kind of like what this
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: holiday is really about. They have that option for you. Oh,
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: I love it. Speaking of Through the Veil, I went
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: to one of their tea leaf reading classes the other day.
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  Speaker 1: It was so freaking fun and cute. And I got,
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  Speaker 1: you get to keep your little teacup that you use.
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  Speaker 2: So pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Mine has like bugs on it and stuff. And I
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  Speaker 1: just thought it was so cute and appropriate for me.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And the tea I got is called Going No Contact Tea.
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  Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to snip it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Let me snip it. It is.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be like too small for me to read.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you do it. It's on the side there. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: It smells so good.
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  Speaker 2: Only the finest ingredients. Medium caffeine content. And it is
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  Speaker 2: black tea, orange and tangerine pieces, calendula. safflower, marigold, sunflower petals.
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  Speaker 1: And that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Natural flavors, caffeine.
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  Speaker 1: So good though. Oh my gosh. And then see you
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: like they, they teach you how, so these are classes.
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  Speaker 1: So she'll teach you how to do this stuff so
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: you can do it on your own at home. But
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: I got, I just thought I got the most interesting shapes.
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  Speaker 1: I got like, I thought it was a bat at first,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: but it was more like a butterfly shape or a
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: moth or something. It smells so good. I got like
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: a snake shape. I got some other cool things. I
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  Speaker 1: took pictures of it. But then there was like these
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  Speaker 1: two sunflower petals with like two little orange pieces both
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: sitting in. And I don't know why it just like
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: reminded me of like me and you like on a plane,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: like traveling somewhere. Oh, I know.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: We're going to travel.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: And we are.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I thought that was cute, but
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: I got pretty good pictures of the shapes and stuff
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: that were in my cup.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Did you read this quote?
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't read because it's hard to read. No,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but did you read it, period? No, I
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: didn't read anything on that. What does it say?
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: It is the kindest act of self-preservation, self-love and self-care. Aww.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: It is how we can heal our trauma.
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  Speaker 1: So true.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Merchants of nostalgia. Life has become busy. It's time to
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: slow down and savor. A portion of the proceeds support
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: suicide awareness.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. That's so funny. Yesterday I went
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: to the Out of the Darkness Walk, which is suicide
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  Speaker 1: awareness and prevention. Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: There's more. It's very tiny. So I see why you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's not easy going no contact, but we get it.
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  Speaker 2: This tea will help you in times of guilt and
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: post gaslighting.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's so perfect for me. It's interesting because so
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: they have a bunch of those like she had like
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: at least 20 or 30 teas sitting out. Yeah. And
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I just kind of like and then like I grabbed
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: that one and instantly like the imagery on it is
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: like there's crows and like a creepy girl black hair. Like,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: is she like kind of doll like? And so I
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, this one's probably like going to be
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: my tea. Like, I just felt like how I draw tarot.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I just grab it. And then I'm reading the ingredients.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I sniffed it. I was like, this is perfect. This
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: is my tea. I didn't even really like look through
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: all the teas. I just kind of intuitively grabbed that one.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: That's really interesting. I'm going to Google something really quick
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: before I share.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Just so you guys know, all of the teas are
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: available for sale at Ruth Bale. They're not a sponsor.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: We just love them and they love us.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Do you know where this tea came from?
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't read the bottles.
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  Speaker 2: That's also very small. Montana.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Oddly enough.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Eureka. Montana. Interesting.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know there was a Eureka in Montana.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I thought that was our thing.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Is there just Eurekas all over the state? I think so.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put my tea back here.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: It's in Lincoln County.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Interesting. Oh, wow. It's basically in Canada.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Hey, Canada.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Hey, girl. Hey. Like it's nine miles south of the
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: of the.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Canadia.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: U.S. border. Still. So it's PNW. Totally. Montana. Yeah. We
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: just did an episode on Montana. That's why I brought
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: it up. Your grandparents lived in Montana. Weird.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Eureka, Montana.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Who knew? Who knew? We know now.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: So I think we've talked about this on the pod.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Remind me if this sounds weird. like not something anyone
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: is going to be familiar with.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure we've talked about the pumpkin that
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I won when I was a kindergartner. Right.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I was like, please don't tell me that I am
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: thinking I've told this story and I've just told it
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: before and in different situations nobody's gonna know what I'm talking.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: About no you did and you said that you were
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: trying to find a picture but I don't think you
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: ever did I.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Could never find one yeah yeah at some point I'll
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: probably just have to go and like rummage through bins
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: on bins on bins at my mom's house but one.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Day we'll show it yeah if I can.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Drag it down like that bitch is yours but this
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: pumpkin that I'm currently looking at makes my pumpkin look
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: a little Really?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I found this article and I just was like,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: we gotta, we have to pay respect to the great
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: enormous pumpkin of You know, yesteryear and.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: We like big pumpkins around here.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: And pumpkin booties. So the article is entitled Enormous Oregon
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Grown Pumpkin Wins National Pumpkin Weigh Off.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, national. Damn, girl.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Damn, girl.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Oregon on the map. Yeah, what is she? What is she?
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: She's thick. Two C's.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: That's right. In a battle to grow the heaviest pumpkin
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: in the nation, a massive pumpkin grown in Oregon was
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: crowned the winner on Saturday. So this article is dated 10-4.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: um i'm guessing it was the weekend um prior to
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: this so like the last weekend of september well oh
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: you said oh i see i see okay yeah the
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: article was dated from two days ago what are you
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: talking about um okay portland oregon coin one of our
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: major news networks.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: 6.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. The first place pumpkin, nicknamed Hank the Tank,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: was grown by Jim Sherwood of Milano.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Who told.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: 6 News the pumpkin took 108 days to grow before
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: entering the 2024 National Pumpkin Way Off at Bishop's Pumpkin
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Farm in Wheatland, California. Okay, so I just need you
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: to remember that this pumpkin came from Milano, Oregon.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Okay. Where is that?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: It's like in the direction of like Oregon City can
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: be out that way. Before I tell you how much
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: this fucker weighed.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: My pumpkin weighed less than after the comma.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: There's a comma. Oh my gosh.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: In the end, Hank the Tank weighed in at 2,453 pounds.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Pretty sure my pumpkin weighed 367 and it was the
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: most enormous piece of produce I'd ever seen.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: How big?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Cassie, I will show you the picture. You are going
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: to absolutely shit your brain through your ear.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: It is enormous. Ridiculous.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Ridiculous. I kind of thought this was a fake prop pumpkin.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: This is a real pumpkin.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: What? Yeah.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: After 23 years growing giant pumpkins, you can sum up
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: this year by saying old dogs really can learn new tricks,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Sherwood said. This was my first year growing in a greenhouse.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: And I really focused on networking with other top growers,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: sharing tips and growing methods. And it certainly paid off. Wow. Okay, Cassie,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I am going to airdrop this article to you. And
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: just be prepared for your brain to leave your school.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I'm ready.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: My brain is not home at the moment, but I
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: am so ready.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Can you believe that?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: It's so big. Like, how does this even happen?
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: And it only took like a hundred and what? How
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: many days?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I think he said a hundred. Okay, so let's see.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Took 108 days to grow before entering the 2024 National
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Pumpkin Weigh Off. So I'm wondering if it kept growing
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: after he entered.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. I just feel like that doesn't
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: seem like enough days to get this big of a pumpkin.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Well, that's just it is like he's obviously using all
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: of the tips and the tricks and trying to get
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: her real thick.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: What kind of steroids are you pumping in this pumpkin, man?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: He's pumping that.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Pumpkin full of all of the human growth hormone that
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: like I probably should have been given so that I
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: would reach an average height.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this pumpkin looks like it's droid raging all over
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the place.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like if I stood next to it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: You're not even as big as the stem.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, OK, it's not that tall when it's horizontal
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: like this. Yeah, I'm still taller than the pumpkin. If
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: she could stand upright, she would.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: That's tall.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: That would be different.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: That would be different. Well, what a great addition to
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: this episode that you added. Thank you, Caitlin.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I just was I literally was just thinking I was like, oh,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: maybe we'll do like a little Patreon bonus because we,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: you know, do like fun little like news episodes. paper
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: articles and things that like, you know, just whatever, just
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: something that would be fun to share. And I thought, oh,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: you know what? While I'm thinking of it. So I
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: don't forget. And then we just never share it.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: And yeah.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, do it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I like it. I love that. I love big things.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Very on brand with your pumpkin, but my pumpkin, but
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I was looking at this.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: What's her butt? What's her name?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: One of the Sanderson sisters.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Winifred. Oh, okay. Winifred with the pumpkin hair.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I feel like the actresses' names come to the front
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: of my head, and then I'm like, I don't think
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: she was named Sarah.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: That was this one.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Mary Winifred. Mary Kathy Najimy. She's going to be in,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called. She's going to be
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: in St. Helens this year for the Spirit of Halloween Town.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I think I did. I posted like a little story
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: on it. Love it. I can't remember the dates, but
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: if you Google it, I'm sure you could find it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, I want to go see her.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: But I'm so busy.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: That's so fun.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: That is all I have. But right after this, there
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: is going to be an interview with Margaret from Friends
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: of Lone Fur. And we're going to talk about some
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: of the... fun tours and stuff that they have going on,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: not just during spooky season, but all year. And if
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: you missed the loan for episode that we did, you
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: can go and search, search you that search alone for cemetery.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I'll probably link it for you.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, we can link to it
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: in the show notes.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: But I also like, I like to tell people like
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: remind people they can actually search for episodes because I
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: kind of forget. And I'm like, Oh, well let me
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: just scroll this until I find it. You could be
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: scrolling a minute. Let's scroll through these 200 episodes.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: It might take you a minute.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Because sometimes, you know, I can only link to one thing.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: And usually it's just our website. So if you want
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: to listen on Apple or something, you're going to have
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: to probably search for her.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: True, true, true.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: And then I think after the interview, we're just going
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to pull a card for Spooky Season. Just Spooky Season fun.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: So it'll be at the end of the episode, just
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: like any other. We'll be back. Okay. I am here
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: with Margaret and I just wanted to ask you quickly
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: how you are affiliated with the Loan First Cemetery.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: So I'm a part of a nonprofit 501c3 organization called
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Friends of Loan First Cemetery. And I've been involved in
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: that organization for about 12 years. The organization, yeah, the
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: organization has been around since 2000. We're going to hit
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: our 25 year anniversary next year as an organization. We
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: had high hopes for our 20th anniversary, but then the
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: pandemic hit. So we had to put a big pin
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: in that, which is a huge bummer. So I'm kind
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: of looking forward to next year for that. But I've
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: been around for, like I said, 12 years. Next year
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: will be lucky number 13. And I got involved just
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: doing headstone workshops. And then I segued over into doing tours.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: And then I got on the board and, you So
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: I do all of that. I do all the communication.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I do all the sort of press release stuff. I
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: do stuff like this. I was on KPTV last week.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: So I make sure that we're, you know, getting the
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: publicity that we need to some extent. We're a pretty small,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: rough and tumble group. So we're not a huge organization,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: a huge nonprofit, but we do our best. Yeah, we
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: just try to procure volunteers and stewardship within the cemetery.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: What got you interested in volunteering and working with a cemetery?
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I always loved cemeteries. It's always been a thing of mine.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: I went to Tour of Untimely Departures, which is a annual, semi-annual,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: whatever event that the organization had put on. It had
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: put on years before I joined and I was really
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: into it. Then I started to go to some of
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: the regular tours that got really into that. And then
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I went to headstone workshops and it just started to evolve.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: You know, from there, I was like, I want to
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: be a part of what this organization is doing. I
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: really want to create stewardship. I wanted to volunteer. So
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: it kind of checked a lot of boxes for me.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: So I'm really into Portland history. So not just the
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: history of cemeteries and being a taffophile or whatever. It's
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: also I'm really into Portland history. And I think the
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: birth of Portland history can be most things can be
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: circled back to Lone Bear Cemetery.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: That's interesting that you say the birth of it could
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: be because it's a place of death.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: But it's like. death and birth there's so much nature
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: in yeah in the cemetery it's like you're walking through
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: like a nature park it's so beautiful.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah a lot of cemeteries back in the day um
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: that the architecture i mean that cemetery in particular lone
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: fir wasn't really architecturally designed maybe let's say in the
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: way the riverview or other cemeteries like uh greenwood or
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: any of the magnificent seven over in london there were
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: architecturally designed to be like parks So they were treated
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: as such, they were designed as such. loan for a
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: cemetery it was a little more um i know less
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: uh intentional than that it was really just a pioneer
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: cemetery that grew into what what you see it being
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: today but back in the day uh the intention of
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: cemeteries were to be or to be treated like parks
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: so that's why you know the trees and All the
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: design and stuff. So it is it creates a massive
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: green space within the city, you know, cemeteries along with parks,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: they actually lower the heat.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: In urban areas.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Just from all the trees and such.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: So.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of sense. It's amazing to me that
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it started like with there was just like the one
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: tree there.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But it wasn't originally called Lone Fir Cemetery. It
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: was called Mount Crawford Cemetery. And then prior to that,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: it was just the land claim from the Stevens. So,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: you know, they came over on the Oregon Trail, got
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: their land claim. And, you know, it was very traditional
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: to take the utmost least productive corner of your property
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: and bury your family there. Fun fact, Emmer, when they
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: came over, he was the oldest. How do I phrase this?
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: The oldest, the earliest born person. He was born in 1777, 76,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: something like that. He didn't last very long in town.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: After they came over, he passed away. He was older
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: and they buried him there. There's some dispute even whether
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: that's even the Stevens Land Claim Act or not, because
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: the lines were so fuzzy. They parceled out the land
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: and did all that. You were supposed to do it on,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I want to say on August. low tide and he
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: did it in high tide. So it expanded the Stevens
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: land claim. So there's probably only amongst nerds a dispute
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: on whether Emmer was actually even buried on the Stevens
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: property or not. Oh, wow.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: That is so interesting. I had no idea.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, no one's like, you know, going to do
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: anything about it, but it's like just on the precipice
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: of being another land claim act. And so that block
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: one over there where that road is, that's really the
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: original part of the cemetery.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: So yeah.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Because that's the original entrance to the cemetery is that side.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: It wasn't 26. It was that corner. Yeah, it's pretty
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: fun to hang out in cemeteries. Like I said, if
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: you were to look up old pictures, here's a really
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: old picture online of Riverview from, I want to say,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: like the late 1800s, early 1900s of a family picnicking there.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: So the properties were designed for it. So it's nice
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: to see people. admiring and appreciating the nature of the
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: space it's what we want.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah like it doesn't always have to be a creepy
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: thing like oh we're going to the cemetery we're gonna
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: do a seance not at all it's beautiful i mean
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: people have different perspectives uh and takes on cemeteries but
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: certainly it can be tranquil it can be nice it
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: can be beautiful it can be there's a rose garden
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: alone for a cemetery there's all kinds of trees um
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the the bird alliance.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Of organ i have to remember to get the name
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: right because they're no longer the audubon society do their
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: annual bird count at Lone Fur because there's so many
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: different birds that migrate and hang out.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. At any given point, you can see all different
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: kinds of birds in there.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask about the tours, what kind of
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: tours you guys do. And I saw that you might
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: be sold out of the.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: We are sold out. Oh my gosh.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: But we still want to talk about them so that
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: people maybe next year can get a jump on getting
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: their tickets.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Or just come out to our regular tours. So
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: We do, I'll just kind of dial it back. So
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: we do monthly tours. So every first Saturday, we do
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: a tour called Stories in Stone. And the intention of
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: that tour is to really not have it be so
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: much historical or chronological of the goings-ons of Lone Fir.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: It's really the unique space that Lone Fir is. Some
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: of the artistic headstones, some of the meanings of some
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: of the headstones and the different art and the different
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: representation and women of the world are hey, this headstone
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: means this. This is some Victorian art. So we talk
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: a little bit about that to capture just sort of
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: what would be kind of like the rest of the cemetery,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: for lack of a better phrase. And then the second
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Saturday is our historical tour. And so we really want
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: to educate people. It's part of our tenet as a
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: nonprofit within our mission is to educate people because I
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: really feel like if more people are educated, they'll have
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: a kinship and a stewardship to the property. And they're
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: not only less likely to vandalize it, I feel like
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: a lot of vandalism is unintentional. Like people hang out there,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: they want to party. I don't know what they want
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: to do. And they accidentally knock things over or they
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: bring their dog into the cemetery or whatever. And, and
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: then so on and so forth. But I think you're
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: more likely to covet it, the space and create stewardship.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: If you're pretty invested in either cleaning it or maintaining it, or,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: you know, the history of it. So we do that.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: The third Saturday is April through September.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: We do.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Headstone workshops where we teach folks how to clean the headstones,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: get some help, volunteer help to go out through the
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: cemetery and clean some up. And then the fourth Saturday
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: and the tours are all year long is our women's tour.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: So we just talk and highlight the prominent women that
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: are buried throughout Lone Fork Cemetery. And then every October
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: we try to do something interesting or fun. So in
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: years past, we did a tour and we still do
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: a tour called Tour of Untimely Departures. It's a lot
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: of work. It's a lot of investment. If we decided
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: we're going to do that tour, we decided like January
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: and February pretty early in the year because it takes
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: so many volunteers. It takes so much of what we
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: do to put that on. We have 1,200 people that
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: walk through the cemetery between five and four hours. Tours
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: leave every eight minutes. And it's just a lot. It's
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of coordination. It's a lot of event management.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Things that are in and outside of our wheelhouse, right?
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: We're a nonprofit wanting to do modest tours, educate people,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden we've got this really large,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: massive event. That's just a lot of work. So we
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: don't do it every year because of that. So it
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: doesn't allow us to focus on other things. Like if
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: we had done tour of untimely departures this year, we
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: may not have introduced the women's tour, which is a
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: newer tour this year, or the journal club, which is
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: on Sundays by a volunteer. We just don't have time
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: to ingratiate other things. Yeah. So anyways. But then we
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: try to go, well, a couple of years, this is
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: the third time we've done Tombstone Twilight. We thought, well,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: let's do something a little less. Still something cool, but
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: a little more dialed down, volunteer-wise, dialed down. We're not
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: getting tense and blocking out the street, doing it at night.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Do it right at twilight. We'll do it right at dusk.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Because it's a pretty cool vibe. If you go into
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: the cemetery now, about 5.30, 6, right around now, it's
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: a little darker in the cemetery than it is everywhere
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: else just because of the trees.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: And it really is a cool, really neat vibe. So
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: we're like, let's do something then. Less permitting because it's
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: not at night, whatever. We're not going to close down
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: the cemetery. Let's do it. And the couple of times
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: we did it was really successful. People were really into it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: So then this year, since last year was pretty successful
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: with tour of untimely departures, we're like, okay, we're not
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: going to do for acronym forest. We're not going to
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: do TUD this year. Let's do this. But the biggest
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: complaint that we get isn't just that we don't do
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: TUD every year. It's that how come you don't offer
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: it more than one night for all the reasons I mentioned, right?
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: So I thought, well, let's do this tour, but let's
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: do it every Saturday in the month of October. So
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: this year is the first time that we've done it
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: more than one night.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: So that's very new.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: So every other time we've done it, it's always been
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: like the Saturday before Halloween. We did four or five tours, 25,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: 30 people each tour, and we called it good. But
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I thought, well, if we're going to We're going to
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: switch it up and disappoint people. Let's at least try
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: to lean into the biggest request that we get besides
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: the tour itself is to do it more than once,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: which is the goal.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm so jealous of everyone who got tickets because
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I did not.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty cool. So instead of each stop, the actors,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: there's no actors portraying anything. It's really the tour guide.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: The way we're seeing is the tour guide is like
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: the ghost. And they're dressed up. So instead of having
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: 10 volunteers just right there on each stop, we just
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: have the one tour guide. So we've already reduced our
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: headcount of volunteers. It doesn't make it less fun. It's
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: probably a little less impactful than Tud, and it's not
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: at night. It's still cool, though. We're still excited. If
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: anyone did any of the tours on timely departures the
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: last couple of years, we didn't repeat any of the stops.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: So If you feel like, oh, I went last year.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: I got a ticket. Is it going to be the
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: same thing? It's not. We try really hard not to
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: recycle that often so that you feel like you're getting
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: something new or different.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: But hey, you know, like what I was getting at
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: too is we were doing it every Saturday, but we
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: still have our historical tours and our women's tour and
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: all that stuff in October and November. So if folks
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: want to come out, November has a really high turnout
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: with tours. It's not quite, quite cold. It's really beautiful
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: in the cemetery with fall and the trees and leaves
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: and stuff. So I encourage people to give that a shot.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: I know it's not as cool, but it is still
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: pretty cool. It's still pretty fun. So before it gets
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: to be super wet and dark and cold and rainy,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: it's a really good time to come out. And all
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: the funds that go through for tours and events like
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: that all go back to us as a nonprofit. So
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: in so many ways, you're supporting us in our ability
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: to keep the lights on, so to speak. So tours,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: supplies or our website domain you know to pay for
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: our insurance in order to be a non-profit all the
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: things that you know.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Do you guys do any of like the fixing up
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: of the monuments or anything like that or would that
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: be a separate yeah it really.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Just depends so sometimes we're involved um it isn't our
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: property it's metros so i was just out there on
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: friday and i saw a few hudson's that have been
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: knocked over and i will immediately send pictures over to
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: um one of the main folks the sort of the
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: head of the park rangers his name is monty woods
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: really great guy really into what we do very supportive
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: of the organization so i'm always really trying to send
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: off information to him pretty quickly and they'll get people
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: to come out it depends it's their it's their property
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: we're just sort of like in their sandbox but if
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: there's opportunities to um support and help replace headstones or
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: put in headstones. So Hattie Redmond's an example where she
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: did not have a headstone. We paid for it. We
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: put it in. We partner with an elementary school, I
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: want to say almost 10 years ago, and they helped
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: raise money for Gus Waterford, which is one of the
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: first African-American firefighters in Portland. They came up with a
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: certain amount of money. We kicked in the rest. He
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: has headstone now. So Asa Lovejoy, all the outlining in
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: black that you see, we've helped restore and put that back. So, yeah,
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: we try to do our very best to help support
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: and restore when and where we can.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Do you know anything about the Bottler brothers, Maz and Young?
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bottler. We've done a few, like, fundraisers for that.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: The problem is, is the Bottler, and it is what
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: it is. I wouldn't say it's a problem. It's that
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: the family lineage is still in Portland.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: It's really theirs, right? We can't just go in and
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: be like, we're going to redo it and restore it.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: really them that can do it. So their family line
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: is still alive and well in Portland.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: And so we did invite them out to a few
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: of our events and such, but we can't just go
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: in and make changes. The cemetery is on the historical registry.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: There's just red tape and due diligence. We can't just
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: go in and be like, we're going to improve this.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. So, yeah.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: So that's kind of the deal with that is we
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: have to be, it's, you know, it's their It's their headstone.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: It's their property. So same for me, like, personally, like,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: the bottler... The bottler crypt is something that is really,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: you know, really cool, and I would hate to have
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: it continue to degrade. It's one of the main anchors
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: in the cemetery, but for me, like, the crown jewel,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: so to speak, is the Moklai Moslem.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is gorgeous.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: And so it's just at the point where it's just
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: the A and the C on the name now. Yeah.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: And so to me... Like that's the bigger concern is
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: that mausoleum right there.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Is there any plans to get that fixed up?
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: No. The family still is alive and well in Portland.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: They became the curse.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: So I think the most recent burial was probably about
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: 10 years ago inside of there. Believe it or not,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: there's still some empty spots. It's really up to them.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: So I don't know why or what. I don't know
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: if they see the value and it would be millions
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: of dollars to get it fixed and restored. Um, so
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: that's a bigger thing, right? Where we try and, oh,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: like let's help raise a couple thousand dollars to put
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: in a headstone. Like that's kind of where we're at
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: and what we try to do. We try to be
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: a little more low key and grassroots that would have
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: to be really big grant writing. And, and maybe that's
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: something of the loan for a foundation, which is a
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: separate foundation. They're also a nonprofit and they're sort of
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: an outshoot of friends of loan for some of the
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: original folks from friends of loan for started the loan
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: for a foundation, but their big sort of task at
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: hand and their focus has been block 14.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, that is a huge project that I was definitely
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: heading towards asking you about. Do you know anything about
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the timeline of that?
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: It's hard to say because it's really, again, it's Metro's
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: property and they did get a bond. So there's funding
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: for it. So there was a bond that got, you know,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: earmarked for that space. And I know Lone Fork Foundation
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: has raised a lot of money for it. And they've
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: partnered with all the appropriate folks for the space and
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: the design. I've seen the design evolve. so many times
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: in the 10 plus years i've been involved in in
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: loan for and it's it's just cost and different measures
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: and you know oh we want a water feature but
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: you can't really have a water feature because someone will
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: probably mess with it or do whatever and or who's
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: going to maintain that it's all about you know in
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: perpetuity like let's look at this in 10 years from
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: now right yeah and how will it look and who's
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: going to maintain it right will it be dilapidated you
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: know so i think they've had to reframe how it's
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: going to look and how it's going to be so
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: that it's a a cool space. It was also going
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: to be more of a shared space for Hawthorne's patients,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: but that's been more dialed back because there is more
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: of an emphasis on the Chinese that.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Are over there.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Which is definitely understandable.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Totally. Yeah. And so they've really wanted to make sure
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: that they have it all. There'll be mention of it,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: of Hawthorne's patients, but I think the focus of the space,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: rightfully so, is going to be for Block 14, it's
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: going to be the Chinese immigrants and folks that were
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: interred there. So that, I mean... As far as I
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: can tell, I haven't seen, you know, we were kind
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: of in the sidelines rooting for it. Definitely the loan
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: for a foundation, sort of the main focal group that's
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: really kind of driven it through to the end. I
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: want to say maybe next year. I mean, I know
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: they've had a lot of, for lack of a better phrase,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: they've had a lot of like, like, you know, community,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: like you can speak up, you know, and say, Hey,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: what do you think of this design? Or, you know,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: like town hall type stuff for the community. And so, yeah,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: they wanted the public to be involved in what they
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: thought it should look like. And so there's been many
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: of that in the last year. So I don't know
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: where we are in the stage of it, but I
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: definitely know the money's been earmarked and we're at the
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: finishing line for sure.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. I can't wait for that to start. And
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: then I don't know how long it would take them
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: to build it, but it just seems like such a nice,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: peaceful sanctuary spot to go. Yeah. So we did do
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: an episode on... and I just researched stuff, you know,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: from the internet. So I did read that there was
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: a little girl's angel statue, uh, Ada, and it was
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: stolen and it said it had been replaced. But then
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: when I went to go find it, it's gone. Yeah.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: She's been stolen again. I'm not sure the draw to
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: her as to why she's stolen so often. I want
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: to say maybe three or four years ago, she was, um,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Someone knocked her down. I mean, she's only like five
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: or six years old. I don't understand. Like, and I
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: remember picking, I found her on the ground when I
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: was at Lone Fir because I spent a lot of
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: time there. No surprise. And I found her on the
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: ground and she's an extremely heavy little girl, the statue
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: or the headstone. They put her back and then she's
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: stolen again. I don't know if we have her back
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: or not.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, that is just so sad.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: But she's been stolen like three or four times. I don't.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not really. Yeah, again, it's it's really sad. She's
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: a little girl. It's like, leave her alone.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I went and I spent some time
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: after because I did do the headstone cleaning. And so
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I went and wandered around and looked at all the
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: headstones we'd talked about. So I spent a lot of
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: time with her because I just felt so bad that
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: she doesn't have her little angel statue. I don't know
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: why I felt really drawn to her, too, but maybe
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: that's what other people are feeling.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Well, they just want really cool garden art. You know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: I can go in a whole like speech about vandalism
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: and why people do that. And I don't know, it's,
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: we saw an uptick of it, um, during, um, COVID
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: actually during the pandemic, we saw an uptick of it
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: that just lent us to think that we're, our presence
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: does detour it. We don't like to think that highly
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: of ourselves, but at the time, you know, um, that
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: was sort of the birth of Friends of Longford to
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: begin with is to create stewardship and to minimize vandalism
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: and to clean up the cemetery and all that. And,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: I think if people feel there's a presence there that
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: they're less likely to do it. But during the pandemic, obviously,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: we were all in lockdown and we weren't as out
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: there as much. And so we just started to really
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: see vandalism kick up. And it was happening all throughout
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: the city. So it wasn't exclusive to Lone Fur, but
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: it's very upsetting. It is. The soldier on the soldier's
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: monument is pretty much destroyed. So that guy's not going
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: back up. And that was one of the first things
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: that Lone Fur did was restore the soldier he'd been
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: knocked down before. Re-bronze him, put him back up. It
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: was one of the first things that the Friends of
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Longford Cemetery did. In fact, if you go back and
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: you look, there's a movie, not a good one, by
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: the way, but I highly recommend watching the first 10
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: minutes of it and then do what you want after
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: that to start it off. But it's a movie called
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Body of Evidence, which is a Madonna movie. Oh. And
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: it's filmed in Portland.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen this movie.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: It's totally not good, but you probably maybe at the
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: time wasn't looking at it with the lens you're going
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: to look at it now. So go back. think it's
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: free you can watch it on any streaming right or
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: maybe even find it on youtube or something but she
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: you know is a woman scorned i don't actually remember
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: the story but she lives in piddock mansion by the
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: way oh it's kind of funny the house is piddock
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: mansion then something about her husband dies oh she kills
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: him i don't know if that's the premise of the
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: story or whatever but um he's buried at lone fir
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: so lone fir cemetery But if in the background of
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: the movie, this is how nerded out we is. No
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: one where people get, you can see the soldier's monument
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: without the soldier because the movie came out before friends
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: of loan for cemetery.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And so you can still
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: see some of the glass in the mausoleum. It used
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: to be. So there's that entrance point at the McClay
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: mausoleum where there's the gate on that gate. It says
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Kerr because they became the curse. But if you were
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: to walk all the way around before that, that fence
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: got put up. You walk all the way around and
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: there's a door behind there and it leads upstairs into, um,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: a chapel in the mausoleum.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, that's so cool.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Which is no longer open to the public.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I can see why it's pretty, uh, yeah, it
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: looks like it's falling apart a little bit.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Well, but anyways, if you want to see a good
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: solid 10 minutes of nineties loan for a cemetery, go
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: check it out.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: That is so cool. I definitely will have to look
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: at that.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Uh, a friend of mine, Tara did a movie there. She, um,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: It was called My Summer's a Goth. She did a
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: movie there and filmed lots of it there. I think
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Grimm's couple episodes were filmed at Lone First. Cemetery.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. Yeah. I did want to ask you
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: about the Rose Garden because I didn't know that was
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: there until I kind of was walking around looking and
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, there's like a little rose garden here.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: There is. Yeah. It's one of the original pioneer rose gardens.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: So back in the day, roses are not local to
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Portland at all. They're not.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: At all.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: They're not indigenous to Portland.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't know it.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't know it being that it's Rose city. So
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: the pioneer ladies were really, really into their roses and
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: they would bring them over and they would stick the
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: little bits in like the thorns or whatever they would,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: the bulbs, they would stick it in potatoes and soak
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: the potatoes to keep them wet and to keep them alive.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: And then when they came over here, they would plant them.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: And there was a certain number like two or three
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: original Rose gardens from the, the original pioneer women that
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: came over, they're all gone except for the one in
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: loan for cemetery.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. They're all gone.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: And then anything you hear after that, like the one
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: at peninsula park or lads edition or the international test garden,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: those are all old Rose gardens for sure, but not
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: the pioneer Rose gardens from back in the day.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: So this is like really special.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's one of the last ones. It's the last one. Um,
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: they all had died off so we do have a
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: volunteer and some groups that come out and help maintain
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: the rose garden it's really neat it's a really quiet
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: cool space yeah.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: It does look really well maintained it is nice over
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: there yeah we're excited to have it there's a little
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: plaque there you can read a little bit more when
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: you walk over to it so i have to know
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: what you think of the james and elizabeth stevens headstone
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: do you think it's creepy or do you think it's sweet.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: I think it's sweet i don't think it's creepy That's
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: what I think, too. I think that it started to,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: you know, the type of material that it is, which
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: is like sugar marble. Over time, it starts to look
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: more like weepy and the black. And we've cleaned it
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: a few times. But that's how they made headstones back then.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: That's how they looked back then. They were modest, sturdy people.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: And yeah, no, I don't think it's creepy at all.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: I think what makes it look creepy to people is
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: just because It's old.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: And it takes up one full side, which the image,
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: by the way, that's the backside of that stone. Because remember,
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: the entrance was the other side to the inscription to
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: the front.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, that is interesting. That kind of does put like
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: a different perspective on it a little bit.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And J.B. Stevens would walk every day up what
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: was baseline to go visit her because she died before him.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I know. He wanted to hold her hand again. Yeah.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Have you experienced any creepy stuff, like hauntings in the cemetery? No.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: I know some of our volunteers and board members have
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: discussed that, but I haven't really too much. I kind
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: of have the feeling that when all of us friends
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: of Lone Fur volunteers and board members die, we'll probably
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: haunt it. And the reason I say that is because
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: we spend so much time there.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: So.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know the connection some folks would have to
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: that space. Maybe the Stevens would.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Because you're more likely to visit your home or haunt your,
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: you know, your family. But the cemetery is like, unless
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: you're really tied to that space emotionally. I don't know that.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Right. Yeah.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'm kind of on that same line
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: of thinking, too.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know that cemetery is haunted as people think,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: although the only experience that I've ever had was at Wilhelms.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: And so I was there, and there was a really,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: really cold area. I mean, it's kind of cold there anyways,
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: but there's a certain part where I felt, I thought
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: I felt a presence there. Oh. But it's one of
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: the few times, it's the oldest part of Wilhelm, which
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: is if you ever go do a little thing about them,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: you should do a thing about them.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Is that a cemetery too?
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's one of the largest, like, mausoleums in the
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: west of the Mississippi. There's like 30,000, 40,000 people interred
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: in there. They're not buried at all. They're in the wall.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, gosh.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Where is this at?
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: It's on, it's in Selwood.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. This is why, okay. This is one
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: of the reasons I have a podcast that talks about
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: like the Pacific Northwest. Cause I lived here my whole
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: life and I don't know anything.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So they do. I've only lived here for, well,
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: 16 years, but you know more than me.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: But again, it's the Portland history that I'm related to. So, um,
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: I think like, was it Clark Gable's first wife is
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: buried there. Um, the Povoy brothers are buried or interred
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: there and you might, who's the Povoy brothers, but they
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: did all the glass, the Pitt mansion. Anytime you see
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: old stained glass, like the old church, I'm not very
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: familiar with that venue. Um, there's a few homes within Portland, um,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: all Povoy glass and they were trained and mentored by
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Tiffany glass. So it's got that vibe to it. Polson
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: and Inman. So the Inman Polson, um, working, they did
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: the Inman Polson lumber. That big blue house over on
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: just by Ross Island Bridge?
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Yep. That's Johan Poulsen's house. And so him and Inman,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Robert Inman, had a lumber yard. And they were supplying
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: lumber to the city, but they both had twin houses.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: So you can now Google the Inman house that's been
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: torn down. But there's the Poulsen house. Then they're both
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: in toward there, too. So just saying. Wow. There's a
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: lot of history there. Oh, yeah.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: That's definitely going to be something I'm going to be
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: looking into after this. Yeah. So definitely, you guys, are
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: you always looking for volunteers?
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're always looking for have more people to help
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: us out. The more we can. So the more we
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: can recruit volunteers throughout the year, the more reliable people are,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: the more people are dedicated. Just we're not having to
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: retrain people and have a constant fresh new batch. We
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: want to have people help with projects and do other things.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: So it's really helpful for us if you're involved and
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: you're interested and you want to become a board member.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: you know, people want to move on sometimes and that's okay,
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: but we want to continue to have more ideas, more involvement. Um,
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: so yeah, we're always looking for volunteers. We always want
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: people to be board members or to help out or
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: be involved in projects or do other things. And we're,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: we think outside the box. So last year I, I did, um, a, uh, screening,
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: which is a fundraiser for us at Clinton street theater
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: and Tara came out and we showed my summer as
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: a goth because it was September, October, and it was,
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: You know, that movie came out a few years ago
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: and she was gracious enough to let it screen in
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Clinton Street Theater. And we went to anyway. So we
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: did that. And then I rented a Holocene and we
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: did tunes for Tombstone. So I got a bunch of
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: bands and we did a bunch of stuff. So I
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: want to do I haven't done it yet because I've
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: just been so busy this past year. But there's an
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: event I wanted to do maybe at Crush or somewhere else,
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: but show Body of Evidence, which is what I want
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: to do. and have a drag show called Death is
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: a Drag.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. Okay, I'm coming to that. Please let
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: me know when this is happening.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: So just different ideas. And part of it was to
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: outreach outside of the cemetery and to involve the community
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: and to do different things within the community. So, for example,
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: we did Ghosts of Summer this past year and the
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: year before, which is sort of a vending event.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: We've been to that. Yeah. Yeah.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: And then this year, OMSI, I think every year they do,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: but OMSI invited us to come out to OMSI After Dark.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: And so it's October 30th and it's I think the
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: theme is called spirits. And so they've got a whole,
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know, program planned or different things. So we're
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: going to be out there with a booth, just talking
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: about what we do. That's October 30th. You can go
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: to Omti's website and find out more about tickets. So
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: we're trying to do more things. We're getting invited to
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: do more things outside of the cemetery, which is pretty
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: fun and pretty cool.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Awesome.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: But we need more volunteers to be able to do it. Right.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: We can't have the same five or six people showing
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: up every single thing. Like, You're going to keep going.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: You keep seeing me. And you'll be like, do you
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: want to just do it all? I'm like, I do.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: But also, there's just a core of, you know, there's
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: a consistent core of us. We would love more people
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: So how do you recommend getting started volunteering?
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Just email us at info at, you know, friendsofloneforcemetery.org. And
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: we'll get back to you. And we'll give you a
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: whole step-by-step on how to do it. And then, you know,
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: let us know what you're interested in. If it's, you know,
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: hanging around tours, helping out with tours. Is it helping
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: be a site steward for next year's headstone workshops and
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: what that looks like. You want to do research. Do
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: you want to do, it's a whole slew of things,
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: you know, do you want to help? We have a
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: whole sort of crew out there that we've got work
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: working on besides headstone workshops. They're helping sort of uproot
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: some of the sunken in headstones or a lot of
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: them you think, Oh, they're gone, but they're just sunken in.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: So we have like an edging crew is what we're
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: calling them. And they come out and they do, they
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: pull weeds or they you know do things just a
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: variety of things that you.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Can help out with that's awesome um what is the
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: email we'll put it in the show notes just in
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: case but i want to say it out loud too.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's just info at friends of loan for cemetery.org.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: So easy everyone please volunteer help out donate if you
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: can too if you can't volunteer your time you know
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: yeah Volunteer your money.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: You can also come out. We've got shirts that we sell.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: We have them for sale at Skeleton Key. They're good
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: friends of us. They help sort of be our storefront.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: If you can't come out to tours, we will have
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: them for sale at our tours in October. So even
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: if you don't go on a tour, you can pop over.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: And if you want to buy a shirt, you can
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: do that. Everything just helps support us. It helps support
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: who we are and keeping the lights on, so to speak.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: So it's always appreciated.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: And we appreciate you, the people who take care of
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: this awesome space that we get to enjoy. So thank
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: you so much for doing that as well. Thank you.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Really appreciate it.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Was there anything any last words you have the dog.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: Might yeah yeah truly does um no i just think
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: i appreciate the the community support and the interest this
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: year is like the highest attended headstone workshop we were
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: getting like 60 people per session at times and it
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: was just amazing and great and Hopefully that really sparks
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: some interest with people throughout the year. We do different stuff.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: So yeah, just come out and check it out and
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: know that any tour that you go on and anything
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: that you do where you buy a ticket or you
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: buy a shirt, you're spending money on a nonprofit. So
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: we all are volunteers. I've been doing this for 12
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: years and I've been doing it for free. So this
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: is just something where all the money goes back into
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: us being able to do really cool stuff. So every
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: dollar that you spend supports that effort.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Well, it's so nice to talk to you, Margaret. Thank
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: you for doing this interview with me.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: Nice to talk to you. Thank you so much.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed that interview with Margaret. She was
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: so sweet to talk to us. And she did offer
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: to let us come to one of these sold out
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Twilight Tombstone Twilight Twilight Tombstone tours. One of I can't think.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Of Tombstone, Twilight, Twilight, Tombstone. Twilight, Tombstone.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: It's not about Twilight. It's just at Twilight, the time
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: of the day. It's not about Toilet. But I'm really
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: excited because they were sold out. And I was like, oh,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I really wanted to go. And she was so sweet
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: to offer to let us come to one of those.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: So I am dragging Caitlin to a cemetery, you guys.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I finally did it.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: To the cemetery.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: She's going to the cemetery. Her comfort item, Chris, is
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: allowed to go. I did have to ask for her.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: My companion husband.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I did. When I talked about him, I called him
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: your comfort item. And our tech guy.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, he does help us a lot technologically, especially
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: when we travel.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: And that's not the only.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Tour that we're going to be going on this season.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: And that's all I'm saying about that. You'll have to wait. Okay.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, are we telling them or?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: No, we're not telling them yet. That's going to be
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: its own episode.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Ooh.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Pretty sure.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited. How many times have I said stay
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: tuned to this episode? Just like keep listening to us.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Keep doing it.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Please share us with your friends. Wee.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Wee.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Spooky season. Okay, I'm going to do one more shuffle.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Get my energies into it.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: Get it, get it.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Send me all your energy from the future. Help me
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: pull this card. Oh, Seven of Swords. It is a
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: little ghosty holding five swords, and then there's two kind
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: of hanging out next to him.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: And upright, correct?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Okay. Our keywords are uncertainty, illusion, impetuousness, stealth, cunning, and strategy.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Some decks, including the Rider-Waite-Smith, Aquarian, and Gilded Tarot, show
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: a man carrying away five swords, leaving two stuck in
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: the ground behind him. When this card appears, it suggests
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: you're facing a challenge or problem and must use caution
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: to overcome potential danger.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Please be careful out there during the spooky season.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: In the dark. Yeah, especially, especially.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: The upright seven suggests a tricky situation in which things
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: are not completely clear. Very on brand for the season.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: You may be formulating a plan, but don't have all
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: the information you need. Or the plan may be risky
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: and could backfire.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Don't be visiting abandoned buildings at night to ghost hunt.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Or maybe not cemeteries. I don't know. It's hard to
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: say what it's about exactly. We're not going to the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: cemetery alone. I'm having second thoughts. It is a tour
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: with tons of people around. It's guided. It's safe. Okay.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Don't go alone at night.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: This card can represent surreptitious action and advises diplomacy. In
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: a reading about money, the seven warns that you probably
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: shouldn't go ahead with financial idea or investment you're considering.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Perhaps the risks are too high. Or the deal may
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: be shaky or shady.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm going to watch out for those shady deals.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: The whole time I'm walking around the cemetery, I'm just like,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not making any deals. Might be beyond that. I'm
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: just really focused on that whole thing, I feel.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like once you listen to the interview with Margaret,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: you're not going to be scared of the cemetery really anymore. Okay.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: That would be the first time in my life. But
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: first time for everything. If the reading is about your job,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: this card suggests... Oh, this card says, don't engage in
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: direct confrontation. So don't go all Zach Baggins, Zach Bagel Bites.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: All over the place. Don't Bagel Bites the demons.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Don't Bagel Bites the demons. Work behind
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: the scenes to get results. The upright seven can also
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  Speaker 2: indicate restlessness. Perhaps your job lacks the diversity or stimulation
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  Speaker 2: you desire. Consider making a change. Well, I'd really love to.
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  Speaker 2: Will you support us on Patreon so that I can
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: no longer work my soul-sucking corporate job?
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  Speaker 1: Please, please.
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  Speaker 2: In a reading about love, which is, of course, how
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: you feel for us and therefore wish to support us financially, please.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: In a reading about love, you're advised to seek compromise
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: and use diplomacy rather than arguing with a partner but
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: don't just go along to get along and that's why
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  Speaker 2: i am no longer going on the tour because i
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  Speaker 2: cannot go along to get along.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Yes you can.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes this card shows leaving a relationship that doesn't meet
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  Speaker 2: your intellectual or spiritual needs.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, I'm leaving you. I'm leaving you. Yeah. We
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  Speaker 1: have nothing in common.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, there's an extra excerpt. Be focused and thorough in
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: planning your strategy. As Barbara Moore writes in The Gilded
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  Speaker 2: Tarot Companion, be on guard or one of those swords
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  Speaker 2: he left behind will find its way into his back.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Well, now it seems like it's hinting at murder.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like it's just a good reminder for
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: people because we, you know, drew the card just for,
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  Speaker 1: you know, spooky season. So just a reminder to just
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  Speaker 1: watch out. Be safe. There's illusions. There's all kinds of illusions.
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  Speaker 1: There's people dressed up. Just be safe. It's interesting, though,
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  Speaker 1: because like in this card, like it just looks like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the sun is setting. Yeah. Earlier.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And we're talking about like the twilight tombstones. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to read the extra excerpt at the
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: end of the reverse interpretation. I feel like I'm going
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: to live to regret it because it kind of seems
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: like it's taking your stupid side.
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  Speaker 1: It always does.
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  Speaker 2: Tragedy should be utilized as a source of strength. No
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: matter what sort of difficulties, how painful experience is, If
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: we lose our hope, that's our real disaster. Do you
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: want to guess who said that?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 3: His holiness.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 2: The 14th Dalai Lama. Oh. Yeah, no, I don't read
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of Jesus quotes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there's a lot of Jesus quotes
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: in the tarot book.
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  Speaker 2: Probably not. Do we have anything else to share with
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: the people or? I don't.
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  Speaker 1: But if you guys, you know, want to let us
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: know how if this card helped you out, if you're
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: listening to it at the exact right moment you needed it,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: you can always let us know. I think it's interesting
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: to see like how far down the road when people
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: are listening to, you know, certain tarot reads and how
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: they relate to their own lives that are happening. Yeah.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: At that moment. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It just makes me think of that. I think it's
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: kind of a trend on it's multiple platforms. But I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: always think of TikTok where it's like, I don't need
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know who needs to hear this today, you know?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, yeah, because sometimes, you know, you're
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: seeing that sometimes. you know, weeks, months, however long after
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: the person has kind of put that out.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, on TikTok, aren't things dead after like an hour?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Basically.
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  Speaker 1: No one sees it again.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it feels like it's even more meant to be, right?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I feel like with ours, ours is gonna last for
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: years and years so like 200 years down the road
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: let us know how this card relates.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: To you ticking and talking you know cause you sent
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: me your energy and it went into that card and
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: it's for you.
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  Speaker 1: Well let's go do some spooky shit okay yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go be spooky.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be spooky for so many more weeks I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: know I'm so excited.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: We really need to do midnight margaritas like very soon.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Like for real, like a live stream, actual
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: midnight margarita. That'd be fun. We can do that.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Do you guys want that? Are you into it?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Join us at midnight. That's really late, but like you
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: guys can do it. We can do it on a
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Saturday night. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Keep it fresh.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Keep it frunky. It's just a bunch of us sleeping.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: We all have an alarm set to wake us up
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  Speaker 2: at midnight for the margarita.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Probably more accurate.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: That's what happens in the movie, though. So that's more authentic.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah. She wakes her up with the blender.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Wake up her sister.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: My God, you guys. This has been a millennial, an
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: elder millennial calling card from from from the jump.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: OK, so. Let's do this. I have a blender. Do
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: you have a blender? Let's do this. I have a ninja.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: I have a ninja too.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Is a ninja a blender?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: It is. Okay.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter because you'll be here and we'll use
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: my ninja.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Okay. Sounds good. Well, everyone get your blenders. Get prepared.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: I think that's a fun idea.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Keep you updated. Keep you posted. In the meantime, have
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: a creepy ass day. We'll see you next Tuesday.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: We're at midnight.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Whatever. Unless we lost Caitlin at the cemetery. I need
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: my comfort item. I need my comfort item. Oh, no.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: It's my headphones.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: You guys, this is a mess.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: What is happening?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: That witch cackle.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: That really got me. We love to witch cackle. Damn.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: We better go.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: She's losing it.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Gotta get this girl a margarita, even though it's not midnight.