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Autism and ADHD Together - The Lazy Guide To Understanding · Aspergers & Autism Podcast [The Aspie World] AuDHD

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  You have arrived. Welcome to the Aspy world.
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  Here's where we talk about anything and everything ASD in
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  an upbeat and informative way. And now here's your man on the
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  spectrum, your autism ambassador, Daniel Morgan Jones.
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  So autism and ADHD together combined.
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  This is kind of like the lazy guide to understanding all of
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  that, and we're covering it all right now, so don't go anywhere.
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  So what is autism in ADHD? Why is it related?
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  Well, you know, The funny thing is these two are kind of like
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  these intertwining neurological conditions.
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  So my name is Dan and I have autism and ADHD together.
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  So this is coming from my background of like understanding
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  it, from how I see it, how I experience it, and what it feels
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  like to have this kind of ADHD versus autism kind of polarity,
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  right? Because they're two kind of
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  diagnosed separately conditions, but also they're Co morbid or Co
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  occurring conditions, which means that they can be present
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  in somebody together or separately.
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  Now in terms of ADHD, it sells for attention deficit
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  hyperactivity disorder right? Now a lot of people think that
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  that means you must be like hyperactive all the time.
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  OK, so let's just dial it back a little bit.
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  So I am hyperactive most of the time.
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  I would love for you to leave a review for this video slash
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  podcast if you have anything to add because it would really help
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  me out on this channel and also help me learn and grow from your
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  comments. And I am a very kind of
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  switching from this task to that task type of person.
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  I think it's kind of like within my nature.
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  It's within my you know who I am and you know, part of that is
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  due to the fact I have ADHD. Now I was diagnosed with ADHD
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  and Asperger syndrome, which is not just autism spectrum
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  disorder together the same day at the same time.
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  They look, Oh yeah, this is blatantly obvious.
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  You have both of these conditions, but it's not always
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  obvious in different types of people.
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  I'm going to get into why that is right now, but if you're
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  interested in this type of content, I make weekly videos
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  just like this. So remember to hit the subscribe
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  button down below if you want to help support and follow on with
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  more videos like this. So in terms of ADHD, a lot of
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  girls on the autism spectrum are first diagnosed with ADHD.
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  And this is because a lot of the people who are assessing the
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  autism, you know, assessments, they are looking at a lot of
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  literature and research that was originally done by like Khans
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  Asperger and Leil Kenner, that was all to do with males or, you
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  know, the males on the spectrum. And so a lot of that doesn't
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  really apply to females. So they kind of they sit there
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  and they're like, oh, miss blah, blah, we're going to go through
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  this now and have a look. Oh yes, it looks like, you know,
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  if you have some traits that look autistic, but they're
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  behaving in a different way, it must be ADHD.
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  Now that happens quite often. Or the other one, which is kind
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  of like the more common 1. And I find this so much.
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  I think it's rare that I find somebody who's an autistic
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  female who hasn't been pre diagnosed with bicolar disorder.
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  And I, I find this just this fascinates the heck out of me
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  because it's not bipolar, it's just emotional deregulation
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  because of autism. But because of the lack of data
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  on women, this was kind of missed out, right?
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  So ADHD is almost like a, an urge for your body, your brain,
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  your, your mind to, to switch tasks constantly.
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  And this means that you could be hyperactive like myself, because
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  I talk really fast. And by the way, guys, I'm really
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  sorry if I'm talking really fast.
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  It's just something that happens.
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  I, I doctor read this in my book.
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  I talk about it quite a bit. And if you haven't seen my book,
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  it's called Autism for Adults. You can get it on Amazon or
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  anywhere, or you can go to autismforadults.com right now.
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  And I talk about how I have hyperactivity and it makes my
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  voice, you know, like my speech really fast.
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  And it's partly to do with the fact that I have ADHD and partly
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  to do with the fact that my brain is going a very fast pace
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  because I'm autistic. Then I'm trying to process
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  things at a rapid rate, right? This is what autistic
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  individuals do, FYI. If you are relating to this and
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  your brain goes really really fast and you speak fast gives
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  you your thumbs up. I'd love to know who's and who's
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  listening in to figure out what's going on.
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  Not everybody will have hyperactivity and fast speech
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  with ADHD. A lot of the time it will be
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  more of like an internal kind of hyperactivity where your brain's
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  switching between different tasks all the time.
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  So you're finding it extremely difficult to concentrate on a
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  specific single task. Not because you're kind of
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  getting up and walking around, typically that's what I did, but
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  it's because your brain is also jumping from thing to thing.
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  Now this happens, I mean, I'd say it's like 5050.
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  You'll get people with ADHD and then, you know, who will want
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  to, you know, jump around like me, I can't sit down, you know,
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  still for a long time. I have to get up and move
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  around. And then you'll get people who
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  have ADHD who are just kind of like really bad at focusing on
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  the tasks and they can't really get the tasks even though
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  they're sitting still and they're trying their best to sit
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  down and do this focused task. It's just not happening.
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  And it's really funny because a lot of people think that because
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  you don't have that hyperactivity, like of getting
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  up and walking around and being kind of like impulsive, then you
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  don't really have ADHD. Now what's really funny about
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  ADHD is that years ago, there used to be two forms used to
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  have ADD and then ADHD and ADD tension deficit disorder.
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  They just dropped the hyperactivity because they
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  thought, well, these people aren't displaying hyperactive
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  tendencies or hyperactive traits.
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  Like I just said, like me getting up and seeing, you know,
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  I can't sit down, I have to move around.
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  And then people were like, well, no, no, no, no, it's, it's, it's
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  still, they're still hyperactive people, but it's just the way
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  their brain is going with it. It's like they're switching from
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  task to task to task, which I find just absolutely
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  fascinating. So if you are struggling and
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  World. Now, if you're looking for
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  coaching and therapy combined together with a therapist, Carla
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  who works here at The Aspy World, who is ADHD and is
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  registered therapist, will do online sessions with you.
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  All you have to do is follow the link down below.
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  I'll go to the aspyworld.com/carla with AK and
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  book an appointment with Carla. All right guys.
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  That being said, I do also recognise that autism and ADHD
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  get diagnosed quite often together because they kind of
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  play off each other a little bit.
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  And, and this is what I mean. So I have, I have this, I'll let
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  me give you an example. OK, So I am a, an author.
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  Like I told you, I've got a book out called Autism for Adults.
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  You can get it now for autismforadults.com.
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  And this book to me was kind of a really interesting moment in
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  the way that my autistic brain and my ADHD brain kind of like
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  fused together and was like trying to battle it out.
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  And it was kind of like Superman versus Batman kind of thing
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  because they're both superior in the way that they control, like,
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  my thoughts and mind and all that kind of stuff.
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  But also they were kind of like just counselling each other out
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  constantly. So my publisher said, damn, sit
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  down and write a book with a new book.
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  I said, yeah, great. You know, doing a book is great
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  because it, it brings, you know, a lot more education to the
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  world. More people have access to
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  information to help change lives because we're all about changing
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  lives here. You know, my motto is, you know,
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  making autism life less lonely, right?
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  Because like autistic people are lonely.
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  So I thought if I make a book and I get people together and
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  they can talk and it covers. And so I was like, OK, I'll sit
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  down and write a book. So my artistic brain is like, I
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  want to really sit down and hyper focus on this task.
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  And this task is writing a book. So I sit down at my desk and
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  then everybody was like, how will you sit still for longer
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  than a few minutes? I want to get it up and I want
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  to kind of like doom scroll on Facebook or I'm going to walk
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  around or do something, you know, ridiculous.
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  And then it's like, oh damn, you know, I, I can't do this.
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  So I was like, well, how am I supposed to write a book?
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  And then I realized something really interesting because of
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  the way my brain works because it's hyperactive, but it's also
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  wanting to hyper focus on things.
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  I had a little work around. So I like running.
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  So I run quite often. So I run, I try to run every
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  day, but I run probably like about four times a week.
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  And when I'm running, I'm listening to audio books because
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  I love books. But I find reading really
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  difficult because I'm also dyslexic.
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  So the only way that I can actually, you know, digest a
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  book and actually get that information into my body is by
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  running because of two things. One, it's audibly being fed into
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  my system. And the second thing is that
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  because I hate in the floor and I'm getting tactile feedback,
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  I'm kind of remembering those things.
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  So then I was like, this is really interesting.
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  I wonder if it would work the other way around.
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  What if I could write a book this way, you know, like
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  running, but writing a book. But I, you know, I couldn't
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  physically like, OK, let let's go.
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  I'm going to write a book now. Like, you know, running with my
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  notepad was never going to happen.
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  So then I was like, how am I going to do this?
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  So really simple. I got my iPhone and then I was
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  like talking to my iPhone whilst I was running outside.
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  But it was the middle of November and it was raining and
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  windy and it wasn't, it wasn't happening, right?
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  So I was like, Dang it. So then I transposed that I came
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  inside and I got a treadmill in my garage because we turned the
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  garage into a gym. So I realized that I could run
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  on the treadmill and talk to my phone.
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  So I did 8 sessions of running for one hour, talking to my
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  phone for eight days in a row, and the entire book was written.
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  So that was a way in which I needed to create hyper focus
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  through creating the book, like thinking about doing the book,
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  but also keeping my ADHD mind actively occupied because my
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  ADHD brain wanted me to run and be scatty and all over the
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  place. And it didn't want me to sit
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  down. It wanted me to be running, be
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  active, be stood up, do something other than sit down
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  and write a book, right. But I needed to kind of like
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  calm it. Now this is another way which I
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  kind of I help do this. You're wanting to learn
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  something. You need to sit down and watch a
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  documentary or you need to sit down and watch a lecture.
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  Having like fidget toys to play with keeps your kind of ADHD
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  brain activated and and engaged. Or you have like an under the
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  desk cycle thing where you can cycle your legs underneath your
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  desk. That works really, really well.
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  And I helped a lot of people during the COVID times of, you
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  know, distance learning, figure that out and have those types of
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  things implemented. But autism and ADHD, they
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  somehow do work together in an interesting way where you can
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  hyper focus on something, but then you can also obsess on a
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  special interest. And that interest then can
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  become something like your career or something where you
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  are so taken by it that you can, you just have like the best
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  joyous time in the world because like you, you surround yourself
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  with the things that you enjoy and that you love and you can
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  learn from, which I think is absolutely amazing.
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  But ADHD and autism most often are comorbidly Co occurring
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  diagnosed together. And I do truly believe ADHD and
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  autism are kind of part and parcel.
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  I think they come together and that's just my personal opinion.
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  I'm going to do a video just all about that and my theory on it.
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  But for this video specifically I just wanted to do a bit more
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  of a guide. Now ADHD, the hyperactivity, the
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  attention issues and lack of focus is what really impacts the
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  brain with with an ADHD person. Autism on the other hand is more
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  of a communication issue and a hyper focus, hyper fixation, and
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  rigid structure for routine. Now those two things are
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  separate and they sound really interesting but you can see how
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  they can clash in butt hedge right?
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  Like I said about the whole Superman versus Batman thing
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  because they both have their individual tendencies but they
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  don't work well together. And I think this causes the
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  biggest pain in my life, especially when I Chuck OCD into
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  the mix because I also have OCD and it's just probably one of
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  the most ability things ever. And actually if I don't ask me
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  like what's the biggest issue you find with autism?
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  I have to say it's OCD. Hey guys, I just want to quickly
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  ingest here that if you're looking at to super up your
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  autistic traits and use them to your advantage, I actually have
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  a specific program online course that's really easy to digest,
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  super simple to get. And you can get it right now.
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  The link is in the description of this video and in my bio that
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  you can just go to www.learnautism.net/super and
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  you can learn how you can supercharge and make those
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  traits into superpowers right now.
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  So go check it out. It's really, really good.
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  Okay guys, see you in the next one.
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  Peace.