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There is No Such Thing As Sex Drive, So the LGBTQ+ Community Must Be Stopped | Maintaining Frame 61 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian.
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  I'm here with Alison and this is maintaining frame number sixty one. There is
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  no such thing as a sex drive, so the LGBTQ community must be stopped.
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  H this isn't really about the lg Well that's what Yeah, well,
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  that's what you gave me. I mean, I didn't have a lot.
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  Well this isn't really about Yeah, go ahead. I also gave you I
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  have no sex drive, so you don't either. Yeah. Well, um,
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  I don't think that either of those are really applicable to the video,
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  but I will I will make clear that this isn't really about LGBTQ stuff at
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  all, but there is. It is kind of interesting in the way that
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  this woman frames sex and so there there is something to it that I think
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  it is relevant. But uh so, pay no mind, pay no heed
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  to the title. This is, um really about the myth of the sex
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  drive. That's what that's what this woman is going to. There's no such
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  thing. It's a myth. Okay, okay, let me explain the logic
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  behind this, and I really hope we don't get something striked for hate speech.
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  Strike for that title. Um, the logic is this. Okay,
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  So this woman argues that there is no such thing as a sex drive that
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  we can't compare I guess a sex drive to a desire for food, desire
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  for shelter, desire for water, you know, for heat, And so
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  we can't I guess say that people are driven by it or something because it
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  doesn't result in tissue damage. But here's the thing. If you're going to
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  say that, then why have an entire spectrum of identities based solely on sexual
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  preference? Yep? Yeah, well yeah, that's the strongest argument she's presenting,
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  is to get rid of all of the identities based on sexual preference.
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  Instead, say that human beings should be ordered based on whether or not they
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  have access to basic um funk of basic um needs. Yeah, basic needs
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  actually another word. Yeah. I watched the whole thing and and it's actually
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  to be manual. Okay, So we have the video up and ready.
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  This is from Big Think, a channel I used to be subscribed to and
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  then I woke up where you know, it was called Big Thing because it
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  was supposedly intellectual and sometimes, I mean they used to have good people on,
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  but now I think it's kind of like lost its way, to put
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  it mildly. And this is doctor Emily Nagaski and the title of the video
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  is the Sex Drive myth Debunked. So let's let's get let's get ourselves a
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  big thong. Oh and it's part of a series I guess that they're doing
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  called Devil's Advocate, which you know that's not at all foreboding. But let's
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  go on. Nobody ever died because they couldn't get laid. Frank Beach,
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  who was an mythologist in the middle of the twentieth century, twent to a
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  conference in nineteen fifty six and said, no one has ever suffered tissue damage
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  for lack of sex. All right, I'm pausing there, So she's sort
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  of setting the stage. There's jojo, she's sort of setting the stage.
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  Now, no one has ever died because they didn't get laid. Can you
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  smell the straw? Okay, if you want to prove to me that sex
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  is a drive, show me the tissue damage that an organism experiences because they
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  do not have orgasos. For the first half of the twentieth century, scientists
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  more or less treated sex as a drive. Drive is a very specific kind
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  of motivational system where an organism experiences an uncomfortable internal experience that pushes them out
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  into the world to go solve a problem. Okay, stop, ye okay,
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  Well I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure that sex drive induces an uncomfortable
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  internal experience, maybe even not even uncomfortable, maybe positive, maybe negative,
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  but it's inducing an internal experience that sends people out to make to solve a
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  problem, and that problem is often either acquiring a mate or acquiring the resources
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  to attract a made. What the hell is she talking about? Yep,
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  um, well, we'll get to it. She's sort of she's still setting
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  the setting the chessboard up alson. Like there's definitely like something something else that
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  I think she's moving towards, But she's setting the precedent. So first of
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  all, she she shows you, and I love when you know, feminists
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  are doing like you're dealing with feminists when they do this, they show like
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  old footage from the nineteen fifties of people trying to do things men usually right
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  wearing suits, doctors checking guys, you know, reflexes things that like we're
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  supposed to look at and say, oh, that's so old fashioned, right,
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  that's so ancient history. And then of course she says, throughout history,
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  i e. Throughout like ancient times of the nineteen fifties or whatever time
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  period she's pulling out of her ass, we have treated sex as a drive.
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  And you know, oh how stupid and foolish men were back then,
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  am I right, ladies? Actually it's not that's that's like setting every thing
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  up. But let's let's see what she means by this. Anyways, we'll
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  go and I do see a super chow on a super chow. I'm gonna
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  get to those in a second. So, first is a drive. Hunger
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  is a drive. Sleep even is a drive. You can literally die of
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  sleep deprivation. Sex, it turns out, is not one of those.
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  Instead, it is an incentive motivation system where instead of being pushed into the
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  world by an uncomfortable internal experience, you are pulled into the world by an
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  attractive something or other out into the what's that all right? Pausing there again,
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  So she's saying it's it's not now, I just want to point this
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  out really quick. Yes, if you don't eat, you'll die. If
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  you don't drink water, or if you don't stay hydrated, you'll die.
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  Drink water, guys, And if you don't sleep, you'll die. Like
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  all those things are true. But if you don't have sex, the whole
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  species dies. So like we kind of like, it's it is. Well,
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  I'm not gonna get into it now, but that is a consequence of
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  not having sex. I can see what she's setting up, all right,
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  So she's saying a drive to avoid something negative, A desire is to acquire
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  something positive, all right, and she's trying to do this, I think
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  in order to minimize the I don't know. They're a feminist belief that there
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  are men who think they're entitled to sex. Yes, we call them yapists,
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  yeah, and we put them behind bars. And every other man on
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  the planet does not believe himself to be entitled to sex. In fact,
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  I don't even think a lot of rapists do. They just end up reenacting
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  compulsively things that have happened to them, regardless outside of the tiny minority of
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  men who are more genetically distinct from normal men than gay men are from straight
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  men. Not that gay men are not normal. In fact, gaymen are
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  very normal relative to rapists. Rapists are off in their own little freakish category,
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  probably both male and female. Okay, they're just have severe mental development
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  delays and probably have also been aviews. So there's just off in their own
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  category. Okay. Those are the only ones you could honestly say feel entitled
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  to sex, and probably because they feel entitled to a lot of things that
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  they're not entitled to, like other people's property or lives or identities because they're
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  criminals. Again, there's only one group of men or women who feel that
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  they are entitled to sex, and they are criminals and they're behind bars.
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  No other group. This does not apply to any other group, period.
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  Yeah, understand that. And if you do not understand that, you cannot
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  have a coherent adult conversation about anything. Okay, I don't think. I
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  don't get the sense that she understands that. No, I mean she's got
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  green hair out. I'm making a lot of a No, I'll come back
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  to that, so okay, playing about say, I'm gonna wait because I
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  got there's a couple things I want to say about this, but I'm gonna
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  wait. So plain Dane, thank you for the super super chow playing.
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  Dane, appreciate that, and this is what you get for it. Sorry,
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  I mean, I didn't mean to play it twice. Um, this
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  is one. He gives us five bucks and says, this is one of
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  the most annoying things I hate about women that they complain about men wanting sex.
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  Women in general don't understand what it's like to have a sex drive,
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  like it's a like a real male. A teen girl's puberty is not the
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  same as the teenage boys as puberty. Also, our braids are different,
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  so we naturally value sex very differently. Or a woman to even glimpse at
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  what it's like to live with a male libido, she would have to start
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  HRT burning puberty years or abuse HRT and higher dosages along with other pebs.
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  If you want to hear what it does, go watch a video by the
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  channel Leo and Longevity. The video is titled Females on Trend. I don't
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  know if that's a typo, but the truth with Ariella Palumbo and Boston Lloyd
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  Skip two forty two oh three and watch Ariella, a female bodybuilder, describe
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  what it's like to be on male hormones. She basically describes herself as being
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  addicted while on male hormones and that she felt bad for teenage boys going through
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  puberty and what it's like for men on a daily basis. If women had
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  to deal with this, Earth's population will be in the quadrillions. Okay,
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  thank you for that, Well we'll come there's more. We'll come back to
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  it, but um we will, we will, We'll get back to that,
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  So thank you for that. And then I got a super chat from
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  Derek Workman. No, it's okay. Derek Workman is the super chatt and
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  says, better question why we evolve genitals at all? Well, it does
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  seem like that's kind of on the table as a question, where like where
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  we are now, But again, um, you know these people are putting
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  the car before the horse, is what I'll say for now. Anyway,
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  let's continue. We can go ahead and say sex drive. I understand that
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  that is much easier to say than sexual incentive motivation system is just as innate
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  and just as natural as a drive system, but it's just not an uncomfortable
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  internal experience that pushes you to go solve a problem or else you could die,
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  all right, pausing it there. So she's basically saying sex drive is
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  not a thing because you're not gonna die if you if you die a virgin
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  or whatever. And and I just want to I just want to point out
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  that I don't think this is directed at women. She doesn't explicitly say it,
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  but I think she's talking about men. And I'm gonna show you like
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  how in a little while it becomes yeah, she's talking about She's saying men
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  don't need to to get laid. Go ahead, Okay, yeah, but
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  here's the thing. All of her logic could apply also to the LGBTQ whatever
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  I sing, whatever, because I do not understand the full acronym don't.
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  I mean, I can barely pronounce my own name. Don't ask me to
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  um. But she The way that this could apply to it is they are
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  defining themselves by some aspect of their sexuality. Okay, sex drive is supposedly
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  subordinate to these other drives, So why is it? Why is it if
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  it's not necessary for life that you don't just change your desires and put them
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  in line with something that is considered more socially responsible. M Like, seriously,
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  it's it's not It shouldn't be a big deal for you to become normal.
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  This is what I'm saying. This is the the extension your logic.
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  She's not extending it that way. But when you say that sex isn't a
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  drive, then you take away all the legitimacy for recognizing all of the identities
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  based on the sex drive. Do you see what I'm saying? I do?
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  I do. I totally get it, Allison, I get it.
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  But like, she's not operating under logic in fact, she thinks that this
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  justifies the well, we'll get we'll get to it. We'll get to it.
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  Okay, I promise we'll see. You'll see, you'll see where her
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  head is at um in a moment. But like for now, she's just
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  you know, she's just building the case for something that doesn't make any sense.
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  So let's let's continue teaching like a group of students, and we'll be
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  like, excuse me, ma'am, miss Emily. I'm pretty sure I have
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  experienced an uncomfortable internal experience when I could not get the sex I wanted,
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  and that it's correct, you have. The sensation you're experiencing is frustration.
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  There is a little monitor in your brain that has goals and keeps track of
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  how much effort you're putting into it and how much progress you're making. Gets
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  really frustrated that there is something you would like a lot. It's not a
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  basic biological need, which means you are not entitled to it. So it's
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  about entitlement. Of course, No nobody. Okay, maybe some women because
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  they aren't told, they aren't regularly told that they're not entitled to touch other
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  people. Women have a real problem with this. But if we just restrict
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  this to men, the only men who feel like they're entitled to sex.
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  And it's much more complicated than that when it comes to male rapists are criminals.
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  Period. You don't need to tell this to anyone, dude, lady
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  person, you don't need to inform anyone of this. Most people already know.
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  Yep, Okay. I don't think there's I mean, I don't know
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  how many men need to just stop paying attention to women before we stop thinking,
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  oh yeah, the real problem is men who u push women into having
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  sex because they say that they need to have it. I mean, how
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  often does that really happen? And you know how you solve that issue?
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  Just learn to set boundaries, be like no, not interested, goodbye.
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  Apparently you're not allowed to set boundaries because you know Jonah Hill, but that's
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  another conversation. Yeah, but you just say no, and if they persist,
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  then they're a rapist and then you send them because you especially in the
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  UK, like eighty five percent of men charged with rape or going to jail
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  in the UK, so you know, there you are seventy five percent,
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  sorry, eighty five was what it was in Victorian times, but seventy five
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  percent. Now in the UK, that's a pretty that is like almost that
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  is twenty five percent higher than any other violent crime. So you're doing good.
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  You're good at batting average there, all right, you're the UK in
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  particular good batting average. He's going to jail, all right, case closed
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  done. The criminal goes to jail. Every other dude is not entitled,
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  does not feel entitled. So stop it. Stops presenting this narrative and this
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  admonition. Like men need to know it. Like if they don't think you
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  don't think they know it. They know it. Yeah, the average man
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  knows it. Okay, Well, the average man really wants a woman's consent,
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  so like if this is a ridiculous thing, I mean like it's the
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  average man wants the woman to be to give consent, Like that's what they're
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  trying to get. Yeah, they want to be desired exactly. It's it's
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  not hard, I mean unless it is. Anyway, let's let's continue.
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  No one has any obligation to make sure you have enough of it is no
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  one is actually nobody has nobody nobody. Yeah this is in shell. It
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  does come down to in cell ship. But but nobody's actually under any obligation
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  to give you food or water either. I mean, like you know,
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  ideally you should have access, like the ability to get it or earn it
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  or grow it yourself, but nobody has to give you those things. So
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  like this, this doesn't make sense. I know some of you might think
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  I'm being cruel, but that's the reality. Like, don't a strange guy
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  can't come to my door and say, can I have some ground beef?
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  I mean, I don't have to give it to him. They're not entitled
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  to that. So it's it's kind of a stupid thing to try to make
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  a parallel to. But maybe in her world we do have to do that.
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  Maybe in her world these things are human rights, but not sex though
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  established piece of science and all of them. As you are, I get
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  it's the only idea that has ever caused anyone on Twitter to call me a
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  stupid People are feeling, oh my god, I got insulted on Twitter.
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  What what what Caldor called a stupid bitch? Well, they bleeped it out,
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  so I'm not sure that they said bitch. But I don't even think
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  in stills feel like they're entitled to sex. I think many of them just
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  want people to be honest with them. Yeah, all right, and what
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  you're doing is you know what. But the thing is, but the thing
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  is, just real quick, she isn't. She isn't saying in cells.
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  She's just saying men. I mean, like so like it's not just you
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  know, any guy who's got a dry spell, any guy who's like,
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  man, you know, I haven't had my you know, i haven't gotten
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  late in a while or whatever, I'm going through a dry period. Like
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  that's all those men. That's not just like the men who are actually like
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  you know, who would consider themselves to be in cells that are on the
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  in those spaces, um, you know, I don't know, raising like
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  voicing their grievances. She's she's not, She's not even This is not like
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  a targeted sniper attack on insult. This is a shotgun blast to like all
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  men, I mean, like in general, like all men should know this.
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  You're not entitled to sex, right, So just saying just making it
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  clear, this isn't. I mean, yes, in cells are her example,
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  but in cells are not her targets. That makes sense Alison's viewed it.
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  I think she might be. Yeah, I'm just dealing with a dog
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  that's really excited. Oh that's fine. I got a supertow. Thank you
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  again for another another? Yeah, another supertow. Guys, thank you all
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  right. Plane Dane gives us twenty bucks and says, I would argue that
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  sex is a drive if you think about it as your offsprings are you?
• 24:37
  Are you like clones? In fact, when you think about it, the
• 24:41
  only time you touch someone is when you procreate. Sorry for the long comment.
• 24:45
  I'm high as fuck on weed right now. Lol. It's literally not
• 24:48
  attractive if it's not consensual. Yeah, that's true, and well we'll get
• 24:52
  to the procreation thing in a little bit. So um, okay. Let's
• 24:57
  also do you want to say something else or are you done with the because
• 25:00
  I know that you were dealing with Skippy? Yeah, no, he's good
• 25:03
  now. He's no longer barking all right, because they feel like I'm taking
• 25:08
  something away from them, when in fact I am giving them the freedom to
• 25:11
  be able to experience sexual desire and know that nothing bad is going to happen.
• 25:15
  Nobody ever died because they couldn't get laid. The closest thing to a
• 25:18
  scientific argument for the idea that it might be a drive is Okay, if
• 25:22
  it's not about individual survival, it is about genetic survival. What about a
• 25:26
  drive to move my genes into the next generation. That is not how biological
• 25:30
  psychologists to find the term drive. All right, pausing and are very very
• 25:36
  semantical here, Yeah, all right, because I'm gonna blow your fucking mind.
• 25:42
  A lot of animals will sacrifice what you are calling so called drives in
• 25:48
  order to procreate. Procreate, right, They'll sacrifice their ability to take care
• 25:55
  of themselves. They'll sacrifice their fitness. Look at peacocks. They they have
• 26:00
  sacrificed their fitness when it comes to predators in order to become attractive to pea
• 26:04
  hens. Okay, that's the reality that they're at least men. I don't
• 26:14
  know about females, the species they will actually, if you think about it,
• 26:18
  females sacrifice physically as a result of their sex drives when it comes to
• 26:25
  pregnancy and raising offspring. Okay, so there is an impact. We are
• 26:30
  willing. Unless you think that human females are so stupid. They understand that
• 26:36
  sex results in pregnancy, which is itself a sacrifice of fitness and well being
• 26:44
  and tissues in order to get it. So whatever you're calling a drive.
• 26:49
  You're saying, oh, well, to avoid hunger, to avoid thirst,
• 26:52
  to avoid tissue damage, we will actually get tissue damage. We will invite
• 26:59
  tissue damag we will invite predation, We will invite depredation in order to pursue
• 27:04
  procreation. So whatever you think, you think that drives are are powerful,
• 27:11
  well let me tell you a drive is like a is like a little person
• 27:18
  being bodied by a sumo wrestler. When it comes to procreation, they are
• 27:22
  subordinate, my dear. So you may you may not want to use the
• 27:29
  word driven, then, um, what is it? Even a compulsion perhaps
• 27:33
  would be a better word. We have drives towards drinking water, we have
• 27:37
  drives towards having food, We drive towards shelter, we have compulsions towards sex
• 27:45
  and reproduction. That body every other drive, and well, so what is
• 27:52
  your overall point in all of this? Sorry, this just really pisses me
• 27:59
  off. No, it's all right, I get it. I was pissed
• 28:02
  off too, all right, So so the experts don't define this as a
• 28:07
  drive, therefore it's not right other human beings that are just using words and
• 28:12
  well, anyway, let's just keep going The way we get motivated to have
• 28:15
  sex is that something sexually relevant happens in our environment and our rain. Notice
• 28:22
  is that we turn on signal. That's for women. That is for women.
• 28:26
  She's literally defining everything in terms of women's experience. Women have a sex
• 28:33
  drive, It's just it is in response to something. Men's sex drive is
• 28:40
  not in response. It's just there. Does that make sense? Like men
• 28:45
  have it just as a sort of a function of their biology. That's the
• 28:52
  wrong way to put it. It is a constant. It doesn't require external
• 28:56
  stimulus to exist to be triggered. It's probably like a hormonal fluctuation or whatever.
• 29:03
  Women require an external stimulus. This is like one of the things that
• 29:07
  in psychology that they've found and I'm surprised she's completely ignorant of it. And
• 29:11
  they've also found apparently that when women get going, their sex drive can be
• 29:15
  very high. Right, Yeah, it's just that they don't start the motor.
• 29:22
  It's like men start the motor and you know, women don't. They
• 29:26
  just they need an external stimulus. So she's literally defining sex drive in terms
• 29:33
  of women's experience of it and ignoring men's experience of it. What a surprise.
• 29:40
  Yep. Okay, let's see no new super childs or chats or rumble
• 29:47
  rants. So I guess let's continue. And you notice the sensation in your
• 29:52
  body, maybe in response to that turn on signal, and that sensation is
• 29:55
  itself a turn on signal, and that goes up to your brain and you
• 29:57
  get even more I turn on signal. It M what's up? I want
• 30:03
  to move toward that in the right context, You're like, I would like
• 30:04
  to explore further this sensation. It's motivating because it feels good in the right
• 30:10
  context. Why do we have sex because it feels good? Okay, this
• 30:14
  is something I gotta speak to. Why do we have sex because it feels
• 30:18
  good? That's not the reason. Yes, sex does feel good, but
• 30:22
  that's not why we have sex. And I think it seems to me and
• 30:26
  I this is maybe going to be contentious for some people, okay, but
• 30:30
  the truth is that sex only exists for the purpose of reproduction. It doesn't
• 30:37
  mean that we can't enjoy it because we're it's supposed to be enjoyable, because
• 30:42
  it's supposed to drive us to do it so that we make more of us.
• 30:48
  That's the purpose of it. And what it seems to me is that
• 30:52
  this woman and a lot of people like her have this backwards. They think
• 30:56
  that reproduction is a product of sex. It is not like the purpose of
• 31:03
  sex, you know what I'm saying, And this is this is I think
• 31:07
  this is a big problem to assume because well, okay, I got like,
• 31:14
  I can't give you all the details right now, but I'll get them.
• 31:18
  But I watched a video about um sex and it was talking about the
• 31:23
  population and how what the replacement rates are for people that are forming families.
• 31:30
  They're they're forming way less families, are having way fewer kids, right,
• 31:33
  and it's getting to the point now while while they're you know, people will
• 31:37
  say, but eight billion people, but like, we are not reply,
• 31:41
  we're not making families. We are. We are and when we have kids
• 31:45
  in the case where we do, people will have like one or two.
• 31:48
  You know, you don't have like Amish numbers or Mormon numbers. Right,
• 31:52
  Um, we are an endangered species. We're like, we're we are at
• 31:57
  the point where we're in dangered species because we're not going to We're not able
• 32:02
  to replace the people that are here, right. The replacement rates are too
• 32:07
  low. And then on top of that, you have like every generation more
• 32:10
  and more people identifying as trans. And I'm not saying that that's you know,
• 32:15
  terrible like on the whole, but I think that it's being overused,
• 32:21
  let's say, and people are castrating themselves without really knowing that that's what they're
• 32:25
  doing to their bodies. And they're not going to have kids either, and
• 32:29
  this is going to be a big problem in the human race. If we
• 32:31
  don't like step it up, we're gonna be gone. I mean, the
• 32:36
  Amish will take over, basically, the Amish are gonna take over, and
• 32:38
  the Mormons will take over because they're having a lot of kids. But you
• 32:43
  know, the rest of us, the rest of us folk are going to
• 32:46
  be gone. And the one of the things that's contributed to this is this
• 32:51
  notion that sex is something that you do for fun. It's just something that
• 32:55
  you enjoy. And that's when that's where I think what you know you're saying
• 33:00
  about the lgbtqum thing, it kind of comes into it because most of these
• 33:05
  people in the LGBTQ they can't reproduce, so they're having sex just for fun.
• 33:08
  And it's fine, like do you but the rest of us, you
• 33:13
  know, if we're concerned about our legacy, if we want, if we
• 33:15
  want to continue the species, we have to make babies. I mean,
• 33:20
  I'm sorry, but that's the truth. You don't like you don't have to
• 33:22
  like it, and maybe it's not for you personally, but if you care
• 33:27
  about the future of the species, then you know we have to stop looking
• 33:30
  at sex is just like a hobby because it's not. It's what it feels
• 33:36
  good because it causes us to reproduce. That's the reason it feels good.
• 33:40
  It's not us. It's not a side effect. Okay, I'm gonna I'm
• 33:45
  gonna push back on that, but I'm gonna okay, multiple things. One
• 33:50
  for human beings, it's a bonding activity, so there is room for all
• 33:53
  the whole spectrum with a caveat. Most people are going to want to bond
• 34:00
  with the opposite sex. Sure us free produced. What's interesting about all of
• 34:05
  this is when she frames it in this way, when she frames it not
• 34:07
  as a drive, not as something and you know it's human sexuality is really
• 34:13
  complicated. It's much more complicated than just reproduction because our sexuality drives social factors
• 34:20
  like theory of mind. It drives interestingly enough, because of theory of mind,
• 34:24
  because we can abstract after off of our sexual desires, so we desire
• 34:29
  the feeling. Well, okay, what desire is is modeling someone's mental model
• 34:35
  of us. So it's a recursive thing, and it's very complicated, very
• 34:40
  psychologically complex and involved, and it allows us to do other things like engage
• 34:46
  in courting behaviors towards abstractions like the sea, nature, the stars. It
• 34:55
  drives a lot of our mental and intellectual activity, and it's one reason why
• 35:01
  a lot of scientists are sort of chaste. That's because all of their desire
• 35:07
  for a courtship, these kind of courtship behaviors is being driven into a more
• 35:10
  abstract area, you know. But it's still fundamentally about reproduction, about courtship
• 35:17
  and about how human beings structure their sexuality. So all of this it is
• 35:23
  not just reproductive. But the thing is that because the drive is so great,
• 35:28
  it can also be abstract. It can also be more inspirational, more
• 35:35
  artistic or scientific. It can drive all of these endeavors. That's why we
• 35:38
  have it. Like literally, our our entire species, civilization rests on the
• 35:45
  fact that we have abstracted off of our sexual drive. Okay, and that,
• 35:52
  but when she says that that isn't the case, when she says that
• 35:55
  our sexual drive is not a drive that or whatever it's it's less important than
• 36:00
  hunger and thirst and and need for shelter and warmth. When she says that,
• 36:06
  she's essentially saying that it is a simply a frivolity. It's it's it's
• 36:14
  it's something. It's it's something negotiable. It's like a it's like an I
• 36:17
  don't know, and when you go get a McDonald's meal, do you want
• 36:22
  to supersize it? This is just basically, you know, it's it's something
• 36:25
  that you can cut out of your life, and humans could cut out of
• 36:29
  their lives and nothing bad would happen. Well, no, lady, A
• 36:32
  lot of bad things would happen, because you would get rid of all of
• 36:37
  the impetus to abstract off of our sexual desires that push a lot of our
• 36:44
  activities, a lot of building our our colonies and pushing our knowledge forward in
• 36:50
  an artistic expression, and not just that. Once you reduce this down to
• 36:53
  like, uh, what is the right word for it, A uh,
• 37:00
  something that's that's not necessary, I'm really struggling for the right word optional,
• 37:05
  optional, an optional A. But it's even more trivial than that, like
• 37:09
  a something that you can walk away from, something that's irrelevant, like frivolous,
• 37:16
  a luxury, a luxury. Maybe that's a good word, frivolous luxury.
• 37:21
  When she reduces it down to a frivolous luxury, she undermines all of
• 37:28
  our all of this construction of philosophy around people's sexual desires and that they should
• 37:34
  derive an identity from it. You should derive an identity from what enjoying,
• 37:38
  like the stir straws with little made into little animals, like you see what
• 37:46
  I'm saying. Yea. The more you make it frivolous, the more you
• 37:50
  undermine people's right to drive an identity from it, like we don't if something
• 37:55
  is socially harmful at like not reproducing can be you know, because eventually,
• 38:01
  eventually the West won't be able to borrow on the the productivity of grandchildren.
• 38:07
  That won't exist, right right? Um? So, I mean, so
• 38:13
  people need to have children in order for our society continue to function, whether
• 38:17
  or not we want it to is regardless. But I mean, I don't
• 38:21
  think she wants the future in which in which the West can no longer borrow
• 38:25
  on the productivity of its children. Um but uh, but my overall point
• 38:30
  is that you could argue thou that the LGBTQ plus community is being disruptive,
• 38:37
  socially disruptive, is being um, socially maladjusted for nothing for what reason?
• 38:47
  For for for volity, for a luxury? Like really, you you get
• 38:55
  to engage in behaviors that people find bothersome because you like turlely straws. No,
• 39:01
  yeah, what what to scare the forces? Because you like I don't
• 39:07
  know pet Rocks. No, is that is she really arguing that like a
• 39:14
  gay man it's just well he's just basically has the same Well no, she
• 39:19
  she thinks it's more important that sex be something that is simply for pleasure then
• 39:24
  that has like that has no other greater purpose. That that is the greatest
• 39:30
  purpose, Like the satisfaction of your pleasure yourself is the most is the highest
• 39:37
  pleasure. It's the highest like thing you could attain. That's why it feels
• 39:42
  good. She's saying, you know, sex feels good. That is the
• 39:46
  end goal is to feel good, okay, and not not not the children
• 39:52
  that that you know our byproduct and for that and and and and if we
• 39:55
  didn't have the birth control pill, like but because I think the pill had
• 40:01
  it made a big change in this right, it was part of how we
• 40:07
  had like this this um a lot more laise fair approach to sex because the
• 40:13
  consequences of pregnancy were reduced by the existence of the birth control pill. And
• 40:19
  so that I think that's what changed people's perception. Because before the pill,
• 40:23
  if you had sex, there was a good chance, even with condoms and
• 40:27
  everything, that you were gonna get pregnant as a woman and the man was
• 40:30
  gonna get you pregnant. And if that happened, then you know, they
• 40:34
  had to be taken into account. It ha'd be taken very seriously before you
• 40:37
  laid out with somebody because that could be the product that could be the result.
• 40:40
  But now that we have the pill, I mean, single motherhood is
• 40:45
  higher than it was before the pill, and and like um and um um,
• 40:52
  children being born out of wedlock is higher now that it was before the
• 40:55
  pill. So it's that it was supposed to correct that. But you know,
• 41:00
  there's a quote by T. S. Eliott about this, and I
• 41:01
  can't remember what it is, but it something to do with um. You
• 41:06
  know, if we if if we um, we get we get like something
• 41:12
  something advancement in our in technology that lets us essentially like do something that we
• 41:16
  would never do before because now there's no consequences, so we think it's good.
• 41:21
  And I think that's what this woman is doing. She's saying it's it's
• 41:25
  so backwards because now she's saying that children are a side effect of sex,
• 41:32
  so not not not the biological imperative. And I know it's not just about
• 41:38
  having children. I'm not I'm not making the case that people don't fall in
• 41:43
  love and try to build a relationship. And I think i'm Before you continue,
• 41:47
  I'll just say I think I'm expanding on your point because I think it's
• 41:51
  not just about children. It's also a drive to create the communities where you
• 41:53
  can raise children. So she's throwing that out too. Yeah, no,
• 41:58
  I know it's all of it. Yeah, it's just sex. Like it's
• 42:00
  it's like literally like Brave New World. You know, like in in Brave
• 42:05
  New World, the people would just have orgies and they would just have sex
• 42:07
  all the time, and there was they didn't have to worry about having kids.
• 42:10
  They didn't have to worry about any of those other things. They didn't
• 42:13
  have relationships. People weren't allowed to fall in love, you know, they
• 42:16
  just had to. Like if somebody approached you and made an offer to have
• 42:20
  sex with you, you you couldn't turn them down because it was considered super
• 42:23
  rude. I mean, that's kind of what she's saying, except, of
• 42:27
  course, because she's a feminist, and I'm fairly positive she is based on
• 42:31
  the green hair and the talking points that in this brave New World scenario the
• 42:37
  menu, they're not included unless, of course, she desires them, because
• 42:43
  otherwise, you know, they're not entitled to any of that. So it's
• 42:46
  it's completely twisted. I think it's um, it's it's pretty evil too,
• 42:52
  to basically say because like I like, you know, I like sex.
• 42:57
  Sex is fun, it's great. But like so I'm not a prude,
• 43:00
  but I'm not going to pretend like it's only something that exists for its own
• 43:05
  sake, like you're just supposed to take pleasure in it. It's a part
• 43:08
  of a larger network of ways that you, like you said, build not
• 43:15
  just a family or you know, with with your wife or husband, but
• 43:19
  a community on the wider scale because other people are doing that too, and
• 43:23
  you want and you and it also preserves your future. And when you have
• 43:28
  children, all of a sudden, like the debt of children of generations not
• 43:35
  yet born, suddenly that matters. Right, this woman, I don't think
• 43:38
  she has kids or she doesn't care about her kids, because she's making this
• 43:43
  case and it's like, well, what about your kids or your kids kids
• 43:46
  or your kids kids kids? Right? But I think that a father or
• 43:51
  a mother that is invested in their children is going to be thinking about that
• 43:54
  stuff and it will affect the way they raise their kids, the way they
• 43:58
  behave, the way they treat things like property and all of that for generations
• 44:02
  that these are not disconnected from this. So when you say, when this
• 44:07
  woman says sex is just something that you enjoy, that I'm sorry, but
• 44:12
  that's not the way it works in at least not in heterosexual couples that are
• 44:16
  looking to start families. That's gotten. It's it's not that at all.
• 44:21
  That's just the means. It's just the means. And I would say that
• 44:24
  the sex will drive drive, Yes, underwrites all a lot of our activities
• 44:30
  as human beings. Yes, Like it drives and there's this really good I'd
• 44:37
  have to locate it, but there's this really good quote about how um courtship
• 44:45
  is at the heart of a lot of intellectual endeavor. So this kind of
• 44:50
  fascination and the desire to know and to understand the other that is courtship behavior
• 44:55
  for humans, and that drives a lot. And this because are for mastery
• 45:00
  is courtship behavior and humans, so that the sex drive doesn't just drive reproductive
• 45:06
  behavior, it also drives a lot of human endeavor, and that human endeavor
• 45:10
  constructs these kind of these colonies that allow us to be successful and raising not
• 45:15
  just giving birth to children or conceiving children, but raising them to adulthood and
• 45:21
  also giving them the opportunity to do to the same. So it's like,
• 45:25
  this is okay, this is freaking dumb, and she's getting rid of all
• 45:32
  of that. She's getting rid of all the pro social aspects of human sexuality,
• 45:39
  the desire to create a family, the desire to create a community.
• 45:43
  And this is where I would say, you know, like you can you
• 45:45
  can fold in sexualities that aren't necessarily heterosexual, because people who are more interested
• 45:54
  in, for example, discovering the secrets of the atom, people are more
• 45:59
  interested in pushing the envelope when it comes to art, or even men who
• 46:04
  don't want to have a relationship with a woman have a relationship with another man
• 46:07
  and then thus pump their resources into their nieces and nephews. There's all a
• 46:12
  place for all of it, right when you understand that human reproduction and human
• 46:17
  sexuality drives, drives not just reproductive behavior, but also well, it drives
• 46:24
  not just sexual behavior, but reproductive behavior, which includes all the courtship behaviors,
• 46:30
  all of the endeavors, all the abstract courtship behaviors that our underpin every
• 46:34
  part of our society. Look okay, one a while back, I went
• 46:37
  to Amsterdam. I think you were with me too at one point. No,
• 46:40
  I didn't go to I didn't go to Amsterdam. We got in if
• 46:47
  I can, if we can actually travel us on persons. But yeah,
• 46:52
  um, well, I went to the museum in Amsterdam. And it's a
• 46:55
  really great museum, like it's awesome to walk through. Not quite as intense
• 47:02
  as the Vatican Museum. The Vatican Museum is the first time I have ever
• 47:06
  experienced visual exhaustion. But anyway, so the Amsterdam Museum is really and I
• 47:10
  got to the point where they've had these these stained glass windows celebrating the guilds.
• 47:19
  And what was fascinating to me is at the bottom of each of the
• 47:22
  guilds you had like the legal guild, you had like the Tradesmen's guild,
• 47:27
  politician's guild army. At the bottom of each was a woman holding up like
• 47:32
  the guild hall. So you had this this, this muse holding up the
• 47:37
  guild hall. And I was looking at this and I was like, this
• 47:40
  is a representation of how courtship behaviors are captured and used pushed human industry and
• 47:50
  endeavor. So you see what I'm saying, Like maybe I've done it doesn't
• 47:53
  come true, come through, but it's like you see this over and over
• 47:57
  again, this kind of idea that when you are a carpenter you are expressing
• 48:04
  um where you're giving something to the muse of carpentry or whatever, which maybe
• 48:07
  may have been more historical, but it's like this that you're developing a relationship
• 48:13
  with this this concept of of excellence, you know, and and pursuing it.
• 48:22
  And it's like that there seems to be like a strong sense that you're
• 48:24
  capturing a drive And I'm like This is something that has driven, in my
• 48:29
  opinion, most of human endeavor throughout history. You know, it's what people
• 48:32
  die for, it's what people build for, and and not just sex.
• 48:37
  Is what I'm getting at, also the society in which the products of sex
• 48:43
  can grow and develop themselves. She's basically saying all of that is just about
• 48:49
  pleasure, And what I'm just saying is that I'm just pushing back on it
• 48:52
  just being about reproduction. I think that minimizes it. It's not just about
• 48:55
  sex. It's also about all of this other powerful endeavor, you know,
• 49:00
  and like going out as an artist, pursuing your muse. Yeah you know
• 49:07
  that kind of thing. Well and go ahead, go ahead, No,
• 49:09
  No, it's okay, finish. So I'm just I'm just saying that she's
• 49:15
  throwing out a lot more than just pet or spec That's a lot, Yeah,
• 49:20
  I know, but I think that's her target. But like I agree
• 49:23
  with you, the thing is, Okay, we only have everything we have
• 49:29
  now because of the things that you know, our ancestors and the people came
• 49:36
  before us, especially men did once they were invested in their own future and
• 49:44
  their own legacy. We only have that because of that. Right, If
• 49:47
  everybody just starts living in the moment and they just say, I'm not gonna
• 49:51
  have kids, I'm not gonna start a family, I'm just gonna have sex
• 49:52
  with whoever. And then what will We'll basically let our own you know,
• 49:58
  children die because we don't care about them, and we're gonna be done in
• 50:02
  like a generation. I'm saying that the sex she's she is boiling it down
• 50:07
  to just sex. Okay, I know that there's more to it than that,
• 50:10
  but it sort of starts from that. Men are driven to do things,
• 50:17
  to accomplish things, and one of the main things that drives that is
• 50:22
  attracting a mate. And I mean that's just that's that's just what it is.
• 50:28
  So every person that is here now is here because their father was pushing
• 50:36
  to attract a mate and he did something right. Look maybe and yeah,
• 50:42
  there are some really really great men that maybe they never marry or whatever,
• 50:45
  but they were still brought in to the world by a man and a woman
• 50:51
  that we're invested in their future. So we we like, we have a
• 50:54
  society because of that. I mean, like if you boil it down just
• 50:59
  to that, every level, yeah, at every level, we have that
• 51:01
  because of that it's and it doesn't necessarily start with sex, but it's a
• 51:07
  very important part of it. Is like, is the is the reproduction?
• 51:10
  Yes, it starts with Even our theory of mind is driven by our sexuality.
• 51:15
  Yeah, you know, the fact that we can even have the concept
• 51:20
  of identities is driven by our sexuality, and in particular sexuality. Yeah,
• 51:27
  in particular with men because uh you know, um, the way that men
• 51:32
  try to attract women is through the work that they do. It's all about
• 51:37
  their status, right, women, they they have value by default. Men
• 51:42
  have to earn the title of man. I mean, that's just the way
• 51:45
  it works. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's the reality.
• 51:49
  So when she says that, you know, you shouldn't. It's not
• 51:52
  a drive and you shouldn't feel entitled to it and it's not for you.
• 51:57
  She's not talking to women because women are allowed to be um entitled if they
• 52:01
  want to, you know, to a man's money, to a man's time,
• 52:05
  to to his sex, whatever, um, But men are not.
• 52:08
  This is the This is what she's getting at. Is that what what built
• 52:13
  everything that we have as a human species. That's all that's all arbitrary that's
• 52:22
  that's that that's not something that men did because they wanted to, you know,
• 52:27
  because they wanted to make their societies comfortable enough and safe enough that you
• 52:32
  could raise a family and have a wife. No, no, no,
• 52:36
  though, that that's that's all a side effect that we had that anyway.
• 52:40
  I mean, it sounds like she thinks that we've had cell phones since like
• 52:45
  you know, Rome, and like like if nothing like nothing happened in between
• 52:49
  them and now you know so well, I mean she's really minimizing the effect
• 52:53
  of yea, our sex thrive on the world. Yeah, if we were
• 52:59
  just purely driven by hunger and fear of predators and thirst, we would have
• 53:04
  as much technology as chimpanzees. That's the quite the big in my opinion,
• 53:09
  the big revolution for humans was that we captured our sexual drive to a very
• 53:16
  complex mental process called theory of mind. And then everything blows up out of
• 53:22
  that ritual mythology, language, high degrees of cooperation between men, and also
• 53:30
  to a somewhat lesser degree between women because they're still very resource or very territorial.
• 53:36
  So I mean, all of it comes out of that, All of
• 53:37
  it comes out of the fact that we can turn our courtship behaviors towards anything.
• 53:43
  I think that's what I'm trying to get at. We can turn the
• 53:45
  drive, the sexual drive, and our need to engage in courtship behaviors and
• 53:50
  all of that, like the willingness to sacrifice oneself towards anything, anything towards
• 53:58
  making a cell phone, forwards building a skyscraper, towards landing on the moon.
• 54:04
  We can capture that and drive it towards anything, because it is so
• 54:07
  powerful in us. And it's not just powerful in terms of like literally a
• 54:14
  man lusting after a woman. It's powerful in terms of a scientist having that
• 54:21
  intense curiosity and fascination towards the object of his research. That's very similarly,
• 54:29
  and that comes out of not just the physical like um sexual response, that
• 54:35
  comes out of the mental sexual response that human beings have. And that's what
• 54:39
  makes us so fucking successful. And she's pissing off of all, pissing all
• 54:44
  of that. Yep, exactly. It's ridiculous. And who the hell is
• 54:47
  you can't even say this? I know, I mean it's you know,
• 54:52
  I'm sorry, But like I don't think she's dumb. I mean, if
• 54:55
  you you have to know better, you have to. I think this is
• 55:00
  it is intentional, and I think it is. It's an attack on men,
• 55:01
  and it's on attack specifically on male sexuality, like the what they want,
• 55:06
  like men care about their future and their children's future. I'm you know,
• 55:10
  I mean women get the baby rabies too. I'm not saying that's not
• 55:14
  the case, but what I mean, it's absolutely insane. Okay, so
• 55:20
  I got another another super child. Seither the super childs are really I guess
• 55:24
  batter Chan is really making that, making that work. So thank you for
• 55:29
  the super child. Playing Dane playing Dane gives us eight dollars. No,
• 55:37
  I'm sorry, he gave us two A good thing. I played that twice
• 55:40
  twelve dollars, and says the reason we have drives are to avoid dying.
• 55:44
  When you die without procreating, you die for good. My ancestors live on
• 55:47
  through me. If it was a byproduct, we wouldn't have a natural protective
• 55:52
  instinct. We wouldn't sacrifice ourselves to protect our children. I think the word
• 55:55
  you were looking for is pretentious. If it is pretentious, why would they
• 56:00
  want to prevent the male pill um? Well, yeah, that's the thing
• 56:06
  too. I think that the thing. The reason why they oppose the male
• 56:08
  pill so much is because they don't want men to have to feel entitled to
• 56:14
  protect themselves from predatory women. I guess, thank you, playing Dane.
• 56:21
  Then he gives us another super chat for a super chat for eight dollars and
• 56:23
  says, procreation is how we live on forever with your loved one, with
• 56:28
  your children. It's the closest thing to immortality. That's a god's your ability.
• 56:31
  That's why we're so social, absolutely, and that's why men they don't
• 56:36
  just um, you know, they're not just doing this to attract women.
• 56:40
  They're also doing this to build bonds with other men. So, so I
• 56:45
  got the ts Eliot quote. I want to read it really quick because in
• 56:49
  case you guys don't know. T. S. Eliott was a poet from
• 56:51
  the twentieth century, kind of early early twentieth century. This is he was
• 56:54
  very famous. This is something that he once said. They can silly tried
• 57:00
  to escape from the darkness outside and within by dreaming of systems so perfect that
• 57:06
  no one will need to be good. But the man that is will,
• 57:10
  but the man that is will shadow the man that pretends to be. So
• 57:16
  they try to perfect a dream up a system so perfect that people don't have
• 57:21
  to be good. That's what the sense that I get from this. I
• 57:23
  don't know if you guys know that. Um yeah, but yeah, yeah,
• 57:29
  so this is kind of what's going on here, and that's what may.
• 57:32
  I heard this today on another stream, another video, and I thought
• 57:37
  it was so good. So all right, but anyway, let's continue the
• 57:40
  video ds Elliott was based. Apparently, so while it is true that no
• 57:47
  one has ever died because they couldn't get laid, because we cling to this
• 57:52
  myth that sex is a biological need to which people are entitled, nobody believes
• 57:59
  that. Sorry, unless you do. Nobody believes unless us your projection.
• 58:04
  Yeah, nobody believes that anyone is entitled to sex unless you're a woman,
• 58:09
  okay, or if you're you're like part of the fat acceptance movement. Apparently
• 58:14
  you believe you're entitled to be being seen as desirable okay. Nobody believes that.
• 58:19
  Ye, did I blow out the game? I apologize people? No,
• 58:22
  No, I don't thinkiating. Yeah, it is furiating how she's freaking
• 58:28
  speaks for the rest of humanity. You don't know that. I don't even
• 58:31
  think you know your own damp. Well, you're probably right, she does,
• 58:34
  but she knows what she's doing. But you don't get to speak for
• 58:37
  all of humanity. Nobody except criminals think they are entitled to things that belong
• 58:44
  to others. Are you a criminal? Do you think you're entitled to things
• 58:50
  that belong to others? Yep, I guess that. I guess we have
• 58:52
  to wonder about that one. But this is like, this is infuriating and
• 58:58
  also it's really aggravating because she's focusing on this idea that the big problem with
• 59:06
  seeing biology as a sex drive, as something that is a need is what
• 59:12
  that men will feel entitled to fulfill their needs will First of all, men
• 59:15
  don't And second of all, the way that human beings express sexuality is so
• 59:21
  different than other animals. They use the chemical signals. Basically, the female
• 59:27
  animal is so doped up on her hormones that yeah, there's no way she's
• 59:30
  gonna say no. But it doesn't matter. They're animals. They don't have
• 59:32
  a concept of consent. We have a concept of consent because we have theory
• 59:37
  of mind, because we're humans. And the average man, the normal man,
• 59:43
  I don't even want to say average because it's it's so fucking it's so
• 59:45
  rare for men not to be attracted to consent. It is so rare,
• 59:51
  And there are so many factors, ugly factors that have to go into his
• 59:53
  making before he will pop out the other end. This like weird free.
• 1:00:00
  Okay, that's so rare. And then she's focusing on this idea of entitlement
• 1:00:07
  that oh, oh, this is this is what's going to happen. No,
• 1:00:08
  that's not how human sexuality works. So you shut up about it because
• 1:00:12
  you have no fucking clue. You're so ignorant about that. That is not
• 1:00:16
  how human sexuality works. There's a biological drive that makes men rape. Bullshit,
• 1:00:21
  that's bullshit. It is a biological drive that makes men desire to be
• 1:00:27
  socially desirable, Okay, not sexually socially desirable. Why do you think the
• 1:00:34
  carpenters is perfecting his craft? Why do you think the artist is creating the
• 1:00:37
  new expression of human mind? Of the human mind? You know, it's
• 1:00:43
  because they want to be socially desirable, maybe not to everyone, but to
• 1:00:46
  their social group. That's what it drives, okay. And it also drives
• 1:00:52
  being socially desirable to a partner. A sexual partner that you're interested in.
• 1:00:55
  It does not dw drive rape. Right, that's criminal, So let's just
• 1:01:00
  clarify that that is criminals. That is the entitlement behavior of criminals. So
• 1:01:06
  what she's doing is she's connecting this belief about the biology of sex, that
• 1:01:12
  sex is a sex drive, to this idea that that somehow justifies men raping,
• 1:01:15
  which is bullshit. That's not how men express their sex drive. But
• 1:01:20
  also, she's probably going to tie or she probably in her mind is tying
• 1:01:24
  this to the men who go the very very small minority of men who go
• 1:01:28
  out and kill people because they can't get sex. Well, lady, that's
• 1:01:32
  just you poisoning the well. Because the vast majority of men who have trouble
• 1:01:39
  with their sexual relationships kill themselves. Okay, now that's not every man who
• 1:01:46
  has trouble with their sexual relationships, but if they're going to do anything extreme,
• 1:01:52
  they're most likely going to kill themselves. So you choose to focus on
• 1:01:55
  the men who act entitled rather than the men who realize that they're never going
• 1:02:01
  to get what they want or have been damaged by the sexuality that's either been
• 1:02:07
  inflicted on them or they've experienced and it's abusive or whatever and kill themselves.
• 1:02:12
  So you choose to focus on the murderers and rapists, Yeah, in order
• 1:02:16
  to poison the well, well, it becomes easier to focus on rapists when
• 1:02:23
  you're constantly expanding what that means. Anyways, So you know, didn't you
• 1:02:29
  can? You? That's how you make the numbers bigger, right, you
• 1:02:32
  just say, well, you know, we'll just broaden the definition until until
• 1:02:37
  it essentially encompasses almost every relationship between a man and a woman. Is the
• 1:02:43
  numbers bigger? Yeah, the feminists make the numbers bigger and suddenly bam,
• 1:02:49
  because well what they did is they they went from saying were you raped too?
• 1:02:53
  Did you experience this kind of forced sexual behavior? And then boom,
• 1:02:58
  they see that men are equally likely to be raped. Oh, that's that's
• 1:03:01
  sort of that's a that's a finding we don't want to keep perpetuating. Um.
• 1:03:08
  And then they they what um, Well, they just ignore it and
• 1:03:17
  they continue to assume that sexual entitlement is just a male issue and it's being
• 1:03:22
  justified by narratives like oh, sex is biological as a biological drive. Kay,
• 1:03:30
  right, all right, let's continue. Died in surprisingly large proportion.
• 1:03:37
  So she's showing you, guys who might might be listening to this and not
• 1:03:42
  watching it. She's showing some news headlines like fed self identified in cell admits
• 1:03:50
  to Ohio state mass shooting plot. What how did I predict this? Yeah?
• 1:03:55
  I know, I know. I mean I knew it too when she
• 1:03:58
  said that sex drive is this? No, I knew. I did not
• 1:04:02
  watch this and I was like, she's going to do that, and then
• 1:04:04
  she just does it. Yep. Yeah, this is how this is as
• 1:04:09
  predictable as it as it gets. Proportion of the mass murders that happen are
• 1:04:15
  committed by people who declare that their motivation is that they're not getting access to
• 1:04:19
  the sex that they want a need. If we just understand that that's not
• 1:04:24
  okay, First of all, how many instell murders have there actually been?
• 1:04:28
  Well, Alex manasking was wasn't it Alec mass and we found out that he
• 1:04:32
  had um employment pressures or yeah he had like problems at his job, and
• 1:04:39
  yeah, sure, well even then, though, even then, like if
• 1:04:42
  if if you even if let's say we were to take every in cell incident,
• 1:04:48
  of which I can think of like half a dozen off the top of
• 1:04:51
  my head. Uh and let's just assume that they're all guilty. That's still
• 1:04:56
  what like point zero zero one percent of the population. Like, it's like
• 1:05:00
  nothing, it's nothing even because you know sometimes I mean you can find probably
• 1:05:05
  far more examples of like, I don't know, middle school teachers raping their
• 1:05:11
  students female teachers, right, you can find more examples of that, yeah,
• 1:05:16
  far far more. Probably about fifty five thousand men are being raped by
• 1:05:24
  women annually in the US, and I mean the numbers for women I think
• 1:05:29
  are like maybe seventy uh no, probably, like it's very close, and
• 1:05:35
  nobody cares. Yeah, absolutely, nobody gives a flipping fuck. And we
• 1:05:40
  focus on the what half dozen murders that have been done by these incredibly depressed
• 1:05:45
  young men who feel like they have no future, right, and usually they
• 1:05:48
  kill themselves, and they usually end up killing more men than women. So
• 1:05:51
  like you know, like the Elliot Rodgers, the go to or the guy
• 1:05:56
  in in in Canada, can't remember's name, it's been asking no, no,
• 1:06:00
  no, no, not that guy. It was another guy that wanted
• 1:06:02
  to kill women. I think he gets lumped in with that. It was
• 1:06:04
  before Alec Manassy and I believe but I don't remember. It doesn't matter.
• 1:06:09
  The point is is that she is trying to take something that is extremely rare,
• 1:06:15
  and in many cases it's been demonstrated to not be a byproduct of them
• 1:06:20
  being like you know, have going through a dry spell, but rather they
• 1:06:25
  have other issues or had nothing to do with that at all. Yeah,
• 1:06:29
  they have mental health, yeah, criminal, mental health problems, whatever it
• 1:06:32
  is. And she's trying to say this is male because this is she's using
• 1:06:36
  in cells to tar men as a whole. That's what I'm getting at,
• 1:06:41
  right, this isn't about in cells. She's just using this as a substitute
• 1:06:45
  for men. And I can demonstrate that if we go a little deeper,
• 1:06:50
  a little further into the video, because you'll see it. But she is
• 1:06:54
  basically just saying in cells blame women for their lack of sexual success. Okay,
• 1:07:00
  want a need. If we just understand that sex is a pleasure based
• 1:07:02
  motivation, not a life and safety based motivation, we can free ourselves into
• 1:07:08
  the joy and ecstasy that's available to our bodies when we're not feeling frustrated and
• 1:07:13
  angry about a sense of failure to get something that we feel what the fuck
• 1:07:17
  are you talking about lady. People will line up and pamper your ass to
• 1:07:24
  say that you're desirable. If you were a man and you looked like that,
• 1:07:30
  yeah, you would be considered a creep. You would be socially ostracized.
• 1:07:34
  You're certainly able to say this on a very different landscape. Mh.
• 1:07:41
  You know the meme of the guy that's tipping his fedora is the old old
• 1:07:45
  man guy. She looks like the female version of that guy, honestly in
• 1:07:49
  the face. Yeah, um okay, but anyway, that's I know,
• 1:07:55
  that's petty. I'm just being I'm dissilting her a petty. She looks at
• 1:07:59
  the female version of that guy like that guy. No, she looks like
• 1:08:03
  a female version of that guy. Yeah, but can you imagine, you
• 1:08:08
  know, like what that guy experiences. M h. And she's trying to
• 1:08:12
  spin this positively. Oh, if we could just see sex is just purely
• 1:08:16
  about pleasure, m then we could enjoy more of it without the frustation of
• 1:08:24
  expectation. Yes, well that's meanwhile, you enjoy You think that men killed
• 1:08:31
  themselves for society because something wasn't driving them to do it. That kind of
• 1:08:38
  pro that desire to be pro social Why do you think they've painted women on
• 1:08:43
  their planes in World War Two? Yeah, I wonder why why is it
• 1:08:47
  they had like female performers, like go to the barracks and the and the
• 1:08:54
  basses and stuff and do a little put a little show on for the soldiers
• 1:08:57
  to what was what was the purpose of that? No, it doesn't have
• 1:09:00
  to be sexual it's like cheerleaders social approval yep. And that is driven by
• 1:09:06
  sexuality about the way that humans structure our sexualities, which is really complicated,
• 1:09:12
  really intricate, really fascinating. Ye has a hell of a lot more to
• 1:09:15
  do than just about physical pleasure, because it drives everything, my dear.
• 1:09:20
  It drives the existence of this camera that you're mugging into. It drives the
• 1:09:28
  existence of this big think channel yep. Playing with fire friend all right,
• 1:09:36
  Like, I mean, I just get the thing that drives the thing that
• 1:09:40
  drives men to sacrifice themselves to build a skyscraper. And she's like, oh,
• 1:09:46
  no, that's not just about passure. Well maybe for you, Yeah,
• 1:09:51
  you don't have you don't have an investment though. See I bet she
• 1:09:56
  doesn't have kids. I bet she doesn't. I mean, if she does,
• 1:09:59
  I feel sorry for them. But I bet she doesn't, and that's
• 1:10:00
  why she's like, I'm just doing me, Like you know, I got
• 1:10:04
  my ties and I'm on the beach and I have no I don't care about
• 1:10:09
  my future, so that means I don't care about anyone's future. I think
• 1:10:13
  that people who virtu yeah, I think people who have it that good to
• 1:10:17
  do that they were If they were virtuous, these individuals would stop judging cultures
• 1:10:25
  that aren't Western cultures is morally lesser. Because you look at the Sea Dam
• 1:10:29
  map that's the Committee for the Discrimination against Women around the world. You'd look
• 1:10:33
  at the Sea Daw map and you compare it to the skin tone map of
• 1:10:38
  the world, and it maps one to one. So somehow women like her
• 1:10:42
  have discovered that Western nations are the most moral nations on the planet. You
• 1:10:47
  know, maybe you should actually go and talk to them about how they structure
• 1:10:51
  their lives and why they do what they do, and maybe understand that in
• 1:10:56
  their world they need sex to be a drive so that they can keep social
• 1:11:01
  cohesion, that they can keep their families together, and that they can keep
• 1:11:08
  going in order to pay for your shit, lady, for your dreams of
• 1:11:14
  utopia, Why do you get those dreams of utopia because you're sitting on the
• 1:11:16
  petrol dollar, because you are part of a system that can merely print money
• 1:11:24
  with no productivity behind it, which is what I'm getting at. Usually other
• 1:11:28
  countries, if their money is going to have any value at all, it's
• 1:11:30
  tied to some kind of productivity, so people will will take the money in
• 1:11:34
  order to buy their products. You know, in the West, that's not
• 1:11:38
  the case as much. You know, So you sit on a situation of
• 1:11:45
  unbelievable privilege that other people, other the brown nations, are footing the bill
• 1:11:49
  for, and you are opining about how, oh sex can be pleasure.
• 1:11:55
  Oh thank you, para mistress. What a surprise. You live in a
• 1:12:00
  world of cushions. Your sex is just about pleasure. Yeah, congratulations.
• 1:12:08
  That is one of the most entitled, privileged things a human being could say.
• 1:12:15
  Yep, absolutely, absolutely, Um how does it go again? Let
• 1:12:21
  me see? They constantly tried to escape from the darkness outside and within by
• 1:12:26
  dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good. That's
• 1:12:30
  what she's doing, all right, Let's keep let's keep going. I feel
• 1:12:34
  like we're supposed to be able to get if it's not about getting what about
• 1:12:39
  connecting and feeling the sense of freedom that comes with letting go of the shoots.
• 1:12:46
  And we don't get those things through in false belief. That's something we
• 1:12:51
  just really want. Oh boy, have you not? Did you notice when
• 1:12:58
  she shows the video of the sort of like stock footage of couples, it's
• 1:13:04
  two men and then it's two women, and and I think, well,
• 1:13:09
  then there's this one, but um, you know, guy's got a man
• 1:13:12
  bun, but it but she starts from that, So I think I think
• 1:13:17
  that the reason for this is um in in in gay couples and lesbian couples,
• 1:13:28
  Uh there there there can't be children, There can't be family in a
• 1:13:32
  naturally like unless you adopt or you do some science shit right, But heterosexual
• 1:13:40
  couples don't. They don't need any of that to to start family. So
• 1:13:43
  I think what she's doing is she's trying to say that because the idea that
• 1:13:48
  a heterosexual couple can actually reproduce through sex, that somehow that has more value.
• 1:13:56
  And it shouldn't because all everything is the same, everything is equal.
• 1:14:00
  So what do we do? Well, we could we could devalue sex itself.
• 1:14:05
  We could make it just for pleasure and not for family. And I
• 1:14:11
  know that it's it's more than just sex, but but that is what she's
• 1:14:15
  railing against when she shows these images. These aren't accidents. Like this was
• 1:14:19
  chosen when they edited these this video together. They were like, let's get
• 1:14:24
  a gay couple, and let's get a lesbian couple, and then we'll put
• 1:14:27
  ahead of a sexual couple in there towards the end. And yeah, I
• 1:14:30
  mean, I'm I'm sorry, but like the reality is, yeah, what
• 1:14:36
  what do the darkness here? Yeah, because she's saying it sex is about
• 1:14:41
  pleasure therefore, Yeah, um, well that's really interesting because literally, why
• 1:14:46
  why do people like I guess they just don't even see it? Why do
• 1:14:48
  people like this think that men made all of these sacrifices to build society?
• 1:14:54
  Right? And it really was men as men who were building the skyscrapers,
• 1:14:58
  men who are building that tunnel between underneath the Thames, and like I think
• 1:15:02
  eighteen men died for every fucking foot of it, you know, men who
• 1:15:05
  built the railways. Why do you think men did that? Do you think
• 1:15:11
  what what? What what made you think that men would would put themselves in
• 1:15:15
  danger, put themselves in deprivation because labor is not something fun it is it
• 1:15:19
  does actually involve the destruction of tissues. So why are men willingly engaging in
• 1:15:25
  the destruction of their tissues and willingly engaging in the destruction of their bodies in
• 1:15:30
  order to do these things that built the world that you enjoy or protected the
• 1:15:34
  world that you enjoy. Because in World War Two there's a whole bunch of
• 1:15:39
  men who ran into a situation where you know, if you think that the
• 1:15:45
  survival instinct is primary, what explains the motivation of men in World War two
• 1:15:51
  to run into artillery? Okay? What explains that? Lady? You know
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  what explains that social approval? They don't want to be seen as a coward?
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  And I've I've read play, I've read a whole bunch of stuff about
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  like the psychology, so I can I can say that, and I don't
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  mean that as to be rude, but it seems to be a primary driver
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  of that whole situation. Okay, they did not want to be seen as
• 1:16:17
  a character. Where is the concept of being seen as a coward as a
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  negative come from? It comes from women's social disapproval. So women's social disapproval
• 1:16:27
  directly leads to men charging the artillery. Okay, and those men dying directly
• 1:16:33
  leads to the US's ascendency as the world reserve currency, which directly leads to
• 1:16:42
  your cushy, goddamn existence. So literally, you exist in a world constructed
• 1:16:48
  from men's drive, yeah, to have sex, and all of the all
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  of the the subsidiary qualities of that, which is that they want feminine approval,
• 1:17:03
  which they don't want to be seen as a coward. Therefore they will
• 1:17:06
  be brave in the face of danger. Therefore they will face the destruction,
• 1:17:11
  the complete destruction of their tissues, in order to not feel like they are
• 1:17:15
  disapproved of, either by their comrades or by the potential woman in their head.
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  Okay, and like this is that that's what a coward means. I
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  mean, think about it this way. Women were more likely to see a
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  man who was a deserter as a coward than the men who actually went to
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  war. They understood the psychological pressures of trying to face up against that level
• 1:17:41
  of tissue destruction, so they didn't. Thistle soldiers actually don't have as much
• 1:17:45
  contempt or condemnation of deserters. It's all the civilians left home that don't experience
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  it. They're the ones who are calling them cowards. And that is why
• 1:17:55
  those men are rushing the guns. And that is why you live and cushy
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  fucking distance where you can opine about how well the sex drive just isn't necessary.
• 1:18:04
  It's oh yeah, pleasure, Yeah, because you you exist in a
• 1:18:08
  world constructed for you. Harem girl, you exist, and you sit your
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  plump ass on a bunch of silk cushions. M hmm. It's not just
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  anti family, it's anti human. Yes, were for nothing. Yeah,
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  I want to show you one more thing about this video clip that I thought
• 1:18:27
  was interesting that she uses as like her b roll. Notice this I'm gonna
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  show you and I'll talk over it as it plays people to get if it's
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  not these two men are already together, only hand champagne glasses. These two
• 1:18:41
  women also already a couple, right, they're about to make out things.
• 1:18:46
  But in this case, that's something we just really want. This guy is
• 1:18:49
  alone and he's like thinking about going over and talking to this woman. What
• 1:18:55
  is something we are entitled to and require? For Sandy the new and radical
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  line. So there's no there's no guarantee that that even worked out. All
• 1:19:01
  that is is evidence that that man is not entitled to anything. So he
• 1:19:06
  has to like approach. None of the other couples did, they were already
• 1:19:11
  together. Do you see that? I don't think again, not an accident
• 1:19:14
  in my opinion. Yaws to earn it. Yes, he has to earn
• 1:19:17
  it because society still requires that that drive to earn the sexual approval of women
• 1:19:25
  to keep functioning. So society, she knows that they live on that drive
• 1:19:30
  than men for the sexual approval of women. But at the same time as
• 1:19:34
  they want to say that men are not entitled to feel sexually desirable, because
• 1:19:40
  that's what this is. This isn't about entitlement to sex. It's about wanting
• 1:19:44
  to know how to become sexually desirable to women. Yeah, of course,
• 1:19:48
  And she wants men to continue to strive to be sexually desirable to women,
• 1:19:55
  which is all of the things that men do, even the abstractions that men
• 1:19:59
  do, like wanting to appeal to their muse by pursuing excellence in whatever right.
• 1:20:05
  She wants to keep all of that while telling men that they shouldn't even
• 1:20:13
  want to know how to become sexually attractive to women. Yeah, they shouldn't
• 1:20:16
  even want to know what for society to be honest about whether or not they're
• 1:20:21
  sexually attractive to women, because that's the thing. That's what I see with
• 1:20:25
  these interactions with insults. People refuse to be honest with insults about whether or
• 1:20:30
  not they're sexually attractive to women because insults will say things like, well,
• 1:20:33
  i'm short, i'm disabled, i'm black. You know, I have lots
• 1:20:36
  of them with mental health issues. Yeah, I've been raped by a woman,
• 1:20:42
  so you know all of this stuff. And they'll say, well,
• 1:20:44
  it's really your personality and your hygiene. Yeah, you shouldn't be entitled a
• 1:20:49
  dark triad six foot two men who reeks like a will to beast. It's
• 1:20:57
  still going to be considered attractive, Okay, so we can't. They're trying
• 1:21:03
  to get a situation where society won't even be honest with men of whether or
• 1:21:09
  not they're going to become. What they're doing is going to make them sexually
• 1:21:12
  attractive or at least not seen as a coward. They don't want to give
• 1:21:15
  anything any kind of social approval to men for anything for any reason. No,
• 1:21:19
  let's talking about sex, just social approval, even recognition that men are
• 1:21:24
  keeping society afloat nothing. Men should feel no entitlement, but we should still
• 1:21:30
  still exploit their desire to become socially desirable. You see what I'm saying,
• 1:21:34
  without ever telling them whether or not what they're doing will do that, or
• 1:21:42
  telling them whether or not it is socially desirable. This is the sickest form
• 1:21:47
  of gas lighting. This is some sick shit. Yeah, I don't know,
• 1:21:57
  it is, absolutely this is why I'm saying. When I said this,
• 1:22:00
  at first, I was just cringing, and then like I thought about
• 1:22:03
  it, and I was like, holy shit, this is really bad,
• 1:22:08
  Like this is like really evil in my view. But let's hear her last
• 1:22:12
  her like last comment on this. Hi jojo, hi jojo? Stay there,
• 1:22:16
  Um, The new and radical idea is pleasure is what matters. Connection
• 1:22:20
  is what matters. Authentic humanity is what matters. What are you talking about?
• 1:22:27
  Pleasure is what matters? I mean, I mean always matter. Well,
• 1:22:34
  obviously this is she's acting like it's a revelation, like you know what
• 1:22:38
  I found out? You know what I learned today human beings like we just
• 1:22:44
  started doing this apparently. You know. It's just like when when feminism,
• 1:22:47
  uh had what they they they they changed men from you know, not loving
• 1:22:57
  women or caring about women to carrying about women. It's that, yeah,
• 1:23:00
  I know, when did when did men? When did h how did feminism?
• 1:23:04
  Or when did men start to care about women? Here, I've figured
• 1:23:06
  out how to say it really succinctly. They want to use or exploit men's
• 1:23:12
  desire to become socially desirable without ever recognizing if they're socially desirable or sexually desirable,
• 1:23:21
  which is it's some ways it's a very it's the same thing. Like
• 1:23:25
  I mean, if a man is socially desirable, he's usually sexually desirable as
• 1:23:28
  well. Yeah, um, to some degree. All right, all right,
• 1:23:32
  I got a super chow, another super chow. Very cool, Thank
• 1:23:36
  you very much. Dane is really locking the superhows. Yeah, it's it's
• 1:23:43
  pretty amazing. Um, so, thank you so much. And it's plain.
• 1:23:46
  Dane again gives h well, actually he's sent two, so I gotta
• 1:23:50
  I gotta do this again. I'm sorry, all right, So gives this
• 1:23:58
  one for five dollars and says the male anglerfish will literally permanently fuse himself with
• 1:24:03
  the much larger female anglerfish. He ends up being a tiny appendage on her.
• 1:24:09
  The female octopus will literally guard her eggs twenty four seven for months,
• 1:24:13
  eating herself to survive and fend off predators. Female octopi are the most selfless
• 1:24:17
  mothers on the planet. I don't know if you want to say anything to
• 1:24:21
  that, Allison, but yes, oh yeah, yes. Male animals will
• 1:24:30
  go through depredations in order to gain access to sexual sexual access. And that's
• 1:24:36
  the animals, male animals that are there to promiscuous or don't form para bonds.
• 1:24:42
  Then when you look at the male animals that will form para bonds,
• 1:24:45
  the lengths that they will do to sacrifice everything that she's calling a drive in
• 1:24:49
  order to create and maintain offspring is incredible. And then you look at human
• 1:24:58
  men, everything they have done in order to construct, not even at the
• 1:25:02
  hope. Like the men who went to war in World War two, they
• 1:25:06
  knew, like you go, I mean, I've read stuff like water um,
• 1:25:12
  like in the the the islands in the in the Asian Islands in Asia
• 1:25:18
  and the ship that they went through, and they knew the likelihood that they
• 1:25:24
  would survive, but they still did it. They still sacrifice themselves, and
• 1:25:29
  they sacrifice themselves because there's that instinct or that drive to sacrifice oneself for one's
• 1:25:33
  can group. And it humans, it's like it's it's abstraction, it's you
• 1:25:40
  don't want to be seen as a coward because your courage is is it's like
• 1:25:45
  almost your connection to the group for a man. Yeah, and we used
• 1:25:53
  that constantly to keep our societies running. And it is it is an aspect
• 1:25:59
  of mensactionality. Okay, Like cool operation between men is sexually selected for in
• 1:26:05
  our species, so it is an aspect of men's sexuality. Men's pro social
• 1:26:12
  behavior is sexually selected for in our species, so it's an aspect of the
• 1:26:15
  sexuality. It is driven by their sexuality. And she is using all of
• 1:26:20
  that to enjoy an incredibly comfortable life, and she wants to continue to use
• 1:26:27
  it. Like, like you said, Brian, those clips weren't weren't accidental
• 1:26:30
  That man is striving to be socially desirable or to be seen by another as
• 1:26:36
  socially desirable, But she wants to use that without ever recognizing it. We're
• 1:26:43
  not even recognizing that that is what's driving men. This is what really blows
• 1:26:46
  my mind. Okay, Okay, fine, We'll never recognize that men are
• 1:26:50
  socially desirable, will still use their desire to their drive to become socially desirable
• 1:26:58
  in order to perpetuate our luxuries and our pleasures, but will never really give
• 1:27:05
  them a sense that they've ever become socially desirable. But at the same time,
• 1:27:10
  feminists will look at that and say, oh, that whole thing is
• 1:27:14
  not about being socially desirable. It's about oppressing women. It's about becoming the
• 1:27:18
  opposite of socially desirable. And it's like, can you gaslight any harder?
• 1:27:26
  H yeah, absolutely, it's it's gross even we can't even acknowledge that what's
• 1:27:32
  driving men right right being wanting to become socially desirable, which sexually desirable is
• 1:27:40
  a subset of But I don't think that men run into artillery fire in order
• 1:27:45
  to become well, maybe they do to a degree sexually desirable, but I
• 1:27:48
  think it's more about maintaining social desirability at that point, not being a coward.
• 1:27:56
  Okay, yep, okay, And I got another super chow of playing
• 1:28:00
  Dane for ten bucks, and they say, careful, Brian, you don't
• 1:28:02
  want to sound homophobic, now, do you. I'm often called homophobic because
• 1:28:06
  I think he says I think that because it just says I that I think
• 1:28:11
  that heterosexual relationships are superior because we generally are able to touch our partners.
• 1:28:15
  Technically speaking, you'll only ever touch anyone or anything is when you procreate.
• 1:28:20
  Right now, you are not touching anything on the atomic level. Haile Adam,
• 1:28:26
  blessed the children of Adam. That's a fallout for a reference. Thank
• 1:28:29
  you, playing Dane. I mean, all I would say is, you
• 1:28:31
  know, I don't care what you do in the bedroom or with who.
• 1:28:34
  I don't give a shit. Okay, I don't care if you are against
• 1:28:36
  marriage. I don't care if you are against for yourself right having kids whatever.
• 1:28:42
  But all I'm saying is is that most people, like the overwhelming majority
• 1:28:46
  hopefully, do want families, and especially men. And so when you say
• 1:28:51
  that, you know, when men are trying to get women's approval so they
• 1:29:00
  can find a partner and make babies with that partner, that that is somehow
• 1:29:05
  like something that should not be let's say valued for what men are putting in,
• 1:29:12
  you know, to to hopefully like um get as uh you know,
• 1:29:17
  as a reciprocal arrangement, or that the children that might be a product of
• 1:29:23
  that like are of no consequence and they don't mean anything. They're just a
• 1:29:27
  side effect. You know, you're you're you're saying what you really think.
• 1:29:30
  Like you you're saying that children don't matter, and that that people who want
• 1:29:34
  families they're just entitled. Right. That a surprise, It's a weird thing.
• 1:29:42
  What a surprise. The Western woman who enjoys a life of luxury based
• 1:29:47
  on the exploitation, economic exploitation. I'm gonna just fucking say it, the
• 1:29:50
  economic exploitation of the rest of the world, enjoying a life of luxury based
• 1:29:56
  on the economic exploitation, because this isn't capitalism, This isn't when when you
• 1:30:00
  can just fucking p that's not capitalism, right, Um, A Western woman
• 1:30:06
  who's enjoying a life of luxury based on the ex economic exploitation of the rest
• 1:30:11
  of the world says, ah, well, sex is about pleasure, not
• 1:30:15
  about motivating men in my country to be productive. So our dollar actually is
• 1:30:21
  worth a fucking thing, you know, it's it's that's that's not that's not
• 1:30:27
  important. It's just about how well I pamper my ass on this silk pillow.
• 1:30:32
  Thank you, Thank you for thoughts from the from the the hair,
• 1:30:36
  the the the thank you for thoughts from the Turkish Arab lady. Yeah,
• 1:30:44
  so anyway, that's all the super childs. But man, I think the
• 1:30:48
  jumping badger cham thing works. I'm just saying like, yeah, least on
• 1:30:56
  Phil, Yeah, at least on on somebody. But um playing Dane,
• 1:31:00
  all right, not Plaine Dane, Yes, plain Dane. Thank you playing
• 1:31:04
  Dane. Really really appreciate the support for the channel. You are the top
• 1:31:10
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• 1:31:15
  for all of his support, and thank you Derek Workman. Really appreciate,
• 1:31:18
  like what you guys are doing here. We want to be able to do
• 1:31:21
  this or maybe another ten years I don't know, so we'll see, hope.
• 1:31:27
  Hopefully we won't need to do it for other thanny of but we might.
• 1:31:30
  So I have a I have a I have a suspicion. Yeah,
• 1:31:34
  I have a suspicion. Me and me and Brian will be we'll be like
• 1:31:38
  in our eighties and be like God please no but up. Yeah. So,
• 1:31:49
  but if you want Badge of Chand to jump for you, then send
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  us a supercow. I feed the badge of dot Com force. Let's jump
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  because that's what her laugh is. She is a Sundari. Yes,
• 1:32:04
  I know it's a bitch a girl. Yeah, I mean, is that
• 1:32:08
  wrong? Am I wrong? Like? Oh, you mean like Badger Chan
• 1:32:15
  is a bit of a bitch? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I think.
• 1:32:19
  I mean, honestly, you have to be a bit disagreeable to keep
• 1:32:24
  pushing this like, there's no I don't think that we're necessarily impolite people.
• 1:32:30
  Yeah, maybe we are a bit or mean spirited, but we are definitely
• 1:32:34
  disagreeable. I think. Yeah, the truth hurts and it helps if you
• 1:32:41
  don't mind pulling the band aid off really quickly, like oh did that thing?
• 1:32:45
  Doesn't it feel better? Um? Exactly? But anyway, Yeah,
• 1:32:49
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• 1:33:21
  the reasons why it's important to me is because it's a direct contradiction with people
• 1:33:27
  like this. Honestly, it's a recognition of the importance of not just sexual
• 1:33:34
  bonding in terms of pleasure, but in terms of the construction of society.
• 1:33:39
  And it seeks to bring back a kind of romance to the relationship between men
• 1:33:44
  and women and what they expect from each other, what they should maybe should
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  to put into a show. At right at the end of the book them
• 1:34:17
  of the show like this, but just to say that it's it's really my
• 1:34:25
  refuge when things that I don't know who said this, but they said that
• 1:34:32
  anybody who writes about I don't want to say necessarily utopia, but heaven,
• 1:34:40
  like a heaven on Earth, has been through their personal health. And this
• 1:34:44
  is where I went dealing with my personal health. Is this world and it
• 1:34:49
  really, in a lot of ways became a companion to me, and I
• 1:34:55
  would like to share it with the rest of the world in the hopes that
• 1:34:59
  maybe other people will find in a sanctuary, we find it a place where
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  okay, thanks, okay, all right, So I guess we'll wrap it
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  two HBr for the great discussions, analysis and wisdom. Well, thank you
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  Badger Chan. Um that's the name that you gave us. So that's how
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  I'm gonna address you. All right, So we are going to go into
• 1:36:00
  the patron show. I'm gonna read through this article that's a review of Caitlin
• 1:36:04
  Morand's book entitled What About Men. I don't know what it's gonna have in
• 1:36:10
  it. Sure it's not going to be cringe at all. Um, so
• 1:36:14
  it looks like it's critical, So yeah, it's it's probably gonna be.
• 1:36:18
  Isn't just me? Or does there seem to be like an uptick of women?
• 1:36:23
  Are feminists trying to contain the Andrew tatement? Yes? Yes, well
• 1:36:28
  you know I'm not like, I'm not seriously, I'm not worried about Andrew
• 1:36:31
  Tate. I'm not either. No, you know, wake me up,
• 1:36:35
  like I said multiple times, wake me up when there's the guy that realizes
• 1:36:40
  the military potential of a whole generation or a couple of generations of men who
• 1:36:45
  have nothing to lose. Yeah, who have been constantly told and gaslighted by
• 1:36:49
  society about their own natures and been turned into the enemy. Give it.
• 1:36:55
  Wake me up when that dude's on the ascendancy. Of course. Yeah,
• 1:37:00
  I don't know. At that point, we might not even have an Internet.
• 1:37:03
  I think, you know. My opinion is is that, um,
• 1:37:09
  you know, Andrew Tate, whoever it is, doesn't really matter. It's
• 1:37:13
  just whenever there are more and more men and women that are speaking out against
• 1:37:17
  feminists and feminism, there's more and more of this happening. And whether it's
• 1:37:21
  Pearl or Tate or you know, the whatever podcast or Jordan Peterson, whatever
• 1:37:28
  or us, they're going to attack them the same way because they want to
• 1:37:32
  monopolize the conversation around gender and they don't like anybody that's trying to threaten them,
• 1:37:38
  so that's why they will bat mouth them. And that's also, by
• 1:37:41
  the way, that's also why you will find more and more feminists writing about
• 1:37:46
  men and they're trying to tackle the you know, the man problem right because
• 1:37:53
  they don't. They don't want other people that are not towing the line with
• 1:37:58
  them discussing this stuff. They want to be the ones to control. This
• 1:38:00
  is why Caitlin Morn wrote the book What About Men, because she's saying,
• 1:38:05
  Okay, it looks like I can't ignore this problem anymore. I can't pretend
• 1:38:11
  like it's not happening. More and more, especially younger men, are saying,
• 1:38:15
  you know what, I feel like I'm shit on from the day I'm
• 1:38:16
  born. I don't know why I don't like this. I think it's feminism's
• 1:38:20
  fault. And she has to interview before they realize it and say no,
• 1:38:24
  no, no, it's not feminism. Feminism is the cure. You just
• 1:38:28
  have to follow me. And she pulls out the pipe, piper pipe and
• 1:38:32
  starts playing it in the hope that boys will follow her. That's all this
• 1:38:35
  is, Yes, I know, but it's also doomed a failure. Like,
• 1:38:41
  honestly, what we're looking at right now, Andrew Tate took what feminists
• 1:38:45
  left for men, which is that playboy ideal, that idea that they can
• 1:38:50
  be dissocially desirable by becoming a playboy. Yeah, like literally, that's what
• 1:38:55
  feminists gave men. This is the last thing that could possibly be seen as
• 1:38:59
  social, as a pro social right, and they're taking that away. So
• 1:39:02
  there's absolutely no way to be pro social and a man in Western society,
• 1:39:09
  right, Like, that's it. What the problem is? Then, still
• 1:39:15
  are driven to be pro social and to see themselves as pro social in some
• 1:39:19
  way. And if you are a part of a society that's basically giving men
• 1:39:23
  no way to be pro social, you have especially constructed every man as an
• 1:39:29
  enemy of your society. Why do they owe you your elite, their allegiance.
• 1:39:32
  That's why I say what, we have a choice right now, right,
• 1:39:36
  we have a choice. Okay, we can continue to deny men any
• 1:39:42
  pro social way of being in our culture. We can continue to do that,
• 1:39:46
  and believe me and your tape still was presenting a pro social way of
• 1:39:50
  being a man. I know, pep are probably are just agreeing right now.
• 1:39:56
  I'm not saying it was exclusively or only pro social, but the very
• 1:40:00
  least you could argue that have helping women make money in a very sleazy occupation
• 1:40:08
  is not the absolute worst thing he could be doing. Yeah, okay,
• 1:40:14
  and I'm not saying he's a great guy, but it's not like he was
• 1:40:16
  killing hookers and burying the bodies in landfills. Okay, let's give them that.
• 1:40:23
  At least we don't know that yet. All right. So that was
• 1:40:28
  the last way being the playboy, being the pimp, you know where,
• 1:40:32
  having the diamond tipped cane and the and the exotically covered first. That was
• 1:40:38
  the last way that feminists gave men to be pro social in our society.
• 1:40:43
  Now that they have no way, none, none soever, And we have
• 1:40:47
  a choice now, okay, we can start telling the feminist to take a
• 1:40:53
  hike and start recognizing how men are pro social and start recognizing the pro social
• 1:41:00
  contributions to society and recognizing the unique pro social value that they give society.
• 1:41:06
  We could do that, or we can continue to treat them like the enemy
• 1:41:14
  until they finally realize they are the enemy. But that also means we are
• 1:41:19
  their enemy, and that oh yeah, once the yeah, Like I say,
• 1:41:26
  wake me up when there's the guy that figures out the military potential of
• 1:41:31
  that generations of men who have been deconnected, unconnected, disconnected from their society
• 1:41:39
  and treated like the enemy when they finally realize when that guy finally hits the
• 1:41:44
  button of making those guys realize, oh wait, you know I've been treated
• 1:41:47
  like the enemy my whole life. Maybe it's because they're the enemy. Wake
• 1:41:54
  me up when that happens. Now you won't need to wake me up because
• 1:41:56
  you'll be able to hear the screaming, all right, And that our choice.
• 1:42:00
  And honestly, I can't say that that's wrong because if you treat like,
• 1:42:05
  do enemy soldiers owe the civilian population of another country anything? I guess
• 1:42:14
  if they don't want to be considered war crimes, I mean, yeah,
• 1:42:17
  it's kind of happening in Europe. Now there are there are men who are
• 1:42:23
  not being shit on that are moving in and they're taking over. So yeah,
• 1:42:27
  well, I mean yes. So it's like, do men owe anything
• 1:42:31
  to a culture that treats them like the enemy. The answers no. Now
• 1:42:38
  there could also be just simply there may not even just be the military potential
• 1:42:43
  of that. There may just be the building something else that you're not part
• 1:42:47
  of the potential and letting this society, as reflected by do that with her
• 1:42:55
  weird colored hair, which what color is that trying to be? Anyway?
• 1:42:59
  Oh, it's blue, but I mean I I tinted the thing to protect
• 1:43:02
  us from copyright. It's blue. Is it like, is it like a
• 1:43:06
  good blue or is it just like one of those sort of No, it's
• 1:43:10
  it's a it's a lazy like it's like washing out. It's a lazy ah,
• 1:43:15
  but it's blue. It's a lazy ass to blue. Okay. So
• 1:43:20
  my overall point is they may know this individual may not be like, Okay,
• 1:43:25
  let's the military potential. Maybe it's just the build another society that you're
• 1:43:29
  going to be excluded from potential, you know, or or we could avoid
• 1:43:34
  all that completely and just recognize that men are pretty awesome. Yeah, well,
• 1:43:42
  this is like the this is the most difficult thing for people to hear.
• 1:43:45
  It's not weak men, my dudes, we men have are not weak.
• 1:43:51
  They're still shouldering society. It's the fact that we continue to insist on
• 1:43:57
  them doing so without any recognition of the positive they bring to the world,
• 1:44:02
  and then we gaslight them that the reason why they're doing it is because they
• 1:44:06
  want to impress women rather than they want a pro social identity as someone who
• 1:44:13
  contributes positively to society. But this is the thing, it's like this argument.
• 1:44:16
  I know, I'm going on and on. I had just had an
• 1:44:18
  argument on Twitter with this guy and I showed him this picture of these miners
• 1:44:25
  stuffed in a cage going down into the mind where many of them would die,
• 1:44:30
  either die in accidents or just die by the time they're fifty because their
• 1:44:34
  lungs are completely clogged with coal dust. And he was saying to me that,
• 1:44:44
  yeah, while those guys are complicit with the system that exploits them because
• 1:44:48
  they get to go home and and do what like lorded over their wives.
• 1:44:55
  Oh, I got to go down into the minds and work for sixteen hours.
• 1:45:00
  What were you doing? Like? What the fuck? That's in the
• 1:45:04
  reason why the men were doing it in the first places to feed and clothe
• 1:45:08
  their families. They weren't doing it to lord it over their families. They
• 1:45:12
  were doing it for their families. But that's the mentality. It's like,
• 1:45:15
  men are out there building and maintaining our society. Why are they doing it?
• 1:45:20
  Well, all they want to oppress woman, but I want to feel
• 1:45:24
  superior. Bullshit. They're doing it because they want to contribute in a pro
• 1:45:29
  social way, and you refuse to even acknowledge baseline that. Okay, I'm
• 1:45:33
  sorry, all right, Okay, So I got a couple of super chats.
• 1:45:38
  Albert Nata retro gets the Two Dogs Canadian and says, hey, Alison,
• 1:45:41
  did Riververse reps contact you? That will be what's your name? I
• 1:45:47
  really don't like I appreciate the effort you put in. I'm not really expecting
• 1:45:54
  anything like the Comic Verse people already did a promotion like five years ago,
• 1:46:00
  and I'm not Look, no, they haven't contacted me. I don't expect
• 1:46:06
  them to, all right, do not expect them to extend themselves to help
• 1:46:11
  I don't. And it's not because I think they're bad people. It's because
• 1:46:14
  I don't think it's something that I should expect. All Right, Okay,
• 1:46:20
  okay, this is I didn't want this to become yet another Oh asking for
• 1:46:27
  help from a new community. Sure anyway, but um okay, so no,
• 1:46:34
  all right, all right. So the other super chat is also Albert
• 1:46:38
  in retro for two dollars Canadian and he says, can we stop sucking up
• 1:46:41
  to the pimp? Now? Nobody's sucking up to Andrew Tate Albert, nobody
• 1:46:45
  up to nobody's doing that. But I do think that he should be treated
• 1:46:49
  fairly. And if you're still bringing up fucking video clips from a year ago,
• 1:46:55
  then you're you have no right to say anything about this. I watched
• 1:46:59
  two and half hours of him being interviewed by Tucker Carlson, and I haven't
• 1:47:02
  heard one thing that he said that I haven't said. So just bear this
• 1:47:09
  in mind. Okay, people change, It's possible. Maybe just be open
• 1:47:15
  to it. I'm not saying you have to love the man. I'm not
• 1:47:17
  telling you to do anything like that. But what you're doing right now is
• 1:47:21
  exactly the same as when Hollywood says, you know, stuff about Bill Cosby,
• 1:47:28
  stuff about Johnny Depp, stuff about what's his name, the guy whose
• 1:47:33
  ex girlfriend tried to throw him at whatever it is, it's the same thing.
• 1:47:39
  Okay. All people have arcs and they can change. So I'm not
• 1:47:45
  kissing up to the guy. I don't know him, but I'll tell you
• 1:47:48
  if you take the time to watch that stream, that more recent one after
• 1:47:54
  he's been in jail and he's thinking he's probably gonna get killed at some point,
• 1:48:00
  maybe it'll change your perspective a little bit and you're not still pulling out
• 1:48:02
  that fucking year old clip for a while back. And by the way,
• 1:48:06
  as far as like the men who may you know, may have been like
• 1:48:11
  paying into something, this happens. I'm only fans all the time when and
• 1:48:15
  when women are doing it, so it's not it's not like it's completely different
• 1:48:19
  anyway. Plus, as Paul Elam says, there are no such thing as
• 1:48:24
  victims, only volunteers. So you make a choice. Just don't choose to
• 1:48:30
  follow that shit. That's that's all I'm saying. Okay, let's stop it.
• 1:48:33
  Let's stop with the purity testing, let's stop with the hysterics. I
• 1:48:38
  see it with Pearl, I see it with Andrew. You know what,
• 1:48:41
  if we could be as big as that, all we have to do is
• 1:48:45
  not compromise anything and just say what we think that that's usually helpful. So
• 1:48:49
  I'm not I'm not angry, but I am getting exhausted by all of this.
• 1:48:57
  Um let's say I think it's unfocused rage in the wrong direction. Okay,
• 1:49:05
  Okay, this guy's not. I think it makes a really good point.
• 1:49:09
  And that's sort of what I'm getting at too. You're right, he's
• 1:49:13
  not dangerous, and he has the right to change. Guys, And and
• 1:49:18
  if we take him for what he's saying now, now that he's been humbled,
• 1:49:23
  like yeah, he's already, he's already, life is really beating the
• 1:49:26
  shit out of him already. Yeah, And this is what happens to a
• 1:49:30
  lot of guys. And a lot of guys don't start out perfect victims of
• 1:49:33
  shit. They start out arrogant. They start out thinking that they're above the
• 1:49:38
  law, that they're above other people. They have this God complex. Yeah,
• 1:49:43
  he had all of that, but it's possible that he has changed and
• 1:49:46
  that his message is of interest. Now, Okay, yeah, I agree
• 1:49:51
  with Brian in that, and I haven't personally watched them. The Yeah,
• 1:49:58
  I don't think we're sucking up to him. I'm not sucking up. I'm
• 1:50:00
  not. You know, you don't defending like acknowledging somebody's humanity and defending them
• 1:50:05
  on that premise alone is not sucking up to somebody. It's just common courtesy.
• 1:50:10
  I did it for Trump, I did it for Pearl. I did
• 1:50:13
  it for Harvey Weinstein. I did it for Bill Cosby, I did it
• 1:50:15
  from Michael Jackson. I feel like I'm constantly defending people that people don't want
• 1:50:19
  me to defend, and the only thing I'm doing is say, hey man,
• 1:50:23
  we don't know everything. Let's treat them like a human being. You
• 1:50:28
  would be surprised you saw. You remember how Johnny Depp was treated when the
• 1:50:31
  when the allegations first came out. We were probably the only people that were
• 1:50:34
  like, you know what, we don't know everything, so why why wouldn't
• 1:50:38
  that happen again? Like, I mean, Johnny Depp is a really easy
• 1:50:43
  example because he's obviously the victim. Yeah, but you know, like it
• 1:50:47
  does that's what you do. You just and the thing is that yes,
• 1:50:50
  Andrew takes said stupid things stupid, braggadicio things, things that made him sound
• 1:50:57
  like a complete goddamn morol. I will fully agree and he and honestly,
• 1:51:02
  it sounded to me the things that he says sounds to me sounds like bragging,
• 1:51:06
  and it sounds like trying to maintain a particular view of himself for others.
• 1:51:13
  Yeah, sort of a little like what I mean, her Ernest Hemingway
• 1:51:17
  did, constructing this kind of macho concept of himself. And I'm like,
• 1:51:24
  yeah, that's really fucking obnoxious. Okay, like Andrew tay I he is.
• 1:51:30
  To me, he's obnoxious, But that doesn't mean I guess I'm still
• 1:51:33
  sucking up to him. That doesn't mean he can't change, or that doesn't
• 1:51:36
  mean he can't say things that makes sense. Yeah right, Yes, he's
• 1:51:41
  fucking obnoxious, or at least he was. Yes, he really poked the
• 1:51:45
  tiger when it came to the Romanian mob. I don't know why the fuck
• 1:51:48
  he thought he was going to get away with that, but he hasn't.
• 1:51:53
  He could be facing death, he's definitely facing jail time. Allow him the
• 1:51:58
  possibility of evolve as a person. M Okay, all right, anyway,
• 1:52:02
  all that, thank you for the super chats. I appreciate it, Albert.
• 1:52:05
  I know we're thank you. I know we're not going to agree on
• 1:52:09
  any of this ship, but I just want to let you know that's where
• 1:52:11
  I stand. If you want to debate me on it, you can call
• 1:52:15
  in. We'll do a call in show next week or something, so you
• 1:52:16
  can tell me your whole spiel or whoever. But that's where I stand on
• 1:52:23
  it. The guy is a human being. Human beings are not perfect.
• 1:52:26
  Yes, he brags, so fucking what a lot of people do. So
• 1:52:29
  anyway, what do the thank you said you want to give Alison? All
• 1:52:33
  right, so I want to thank Turin for giving one hundred dollars to the
• 1:52:39
  captive. I oh, thank you for that. Good news everyone, And
• 1:52:45
  I want to thank hyper Chicken for fifty dollars. Thank you, hyper Chicken.
• 1:52:48
  Oh, just so you guys go ahead, Just so you guys know,
• 1:52:54
  we are about two thousand, two hundred and forty from the goal.
• 1:53:00
  I'll probably i'll see if Brian is up for doing something on Sunday, or
• 1:53:03
  I'll put out of it this coming Sunday. Yeah, um maybe, yeah,
• 1:53:10
  I mean yeah, you don't have to answer now, okay, alright,
• 1:53:14
  alright, sorry, No, it's okay, Okay, that's fine.
• 1:53:16
  Um. But yeah, so that's that's my final world word on Andrew take.
• 1:53:20
  I don't like I find him. I don't know why people think I'm
• 1:53:24
  sucking up to him because I find him utterly obnoxious. I think you have
• 1:53:27
  to wish I think you have to wish death upon him, basically, like
• 1:53:30
  that's that's kind of worth. There's a part of me that's sort of like,
• 1:53:32
  you poke the Romanian mob and what the fuck did you think was going
• 1:53:35
  to happen? Sort of like there's there's a little touch of glee or schodenfreude
• 1:53:42
  there. Um. But I allow that he can change and he can evolve,
• 1:53:46
  and he can say something that's worth listening to, and that's what I
• 1:53:49
  choose to focus on. Yeah, all right, So thank you for the
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