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Wicked Radio 5-20: College Grads Hate AI - But Which Ones Will Win With It?! · Wicked Radio with Bill Adams

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  Speaker 1: The kids are most definitely not all right with AI
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  Speaker 1: at their graduation's crebos, but they're back. This is one
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  Speaker 1: of those stories that I thought at first, this just
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  Speaker 1: caught my eye and it kind of, you know, raised
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  Speaker 1: a flag with me because I have a daughter of
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  Speaker 1: my own graduating this week I'm getting to raise. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: it actually is a massive story because for some reason,
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  Speaker 1: I guess because it's trending. I guess because it affects
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  Speaker 1: the kids. I counted six that I found graduation ceremony
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  Speaker 1: speakers at the big university, you know, big name people
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  Speaker 1: and even some just college presidents all made AI and
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  Speaker 1: what it means to their students the focus of their
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  Speaker 1: graduation speeches, their commencement speeches. Right, it's not going well.
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  Speaker 1: The kids are booing the graduations, and for good reason.
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  Speaker 1: In some cases. Now, in some cases they had they
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  Speaker 1: tried AI to re actually read the kids' names, and
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  Speaker 1: there's a classic case that's just happened to day days
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  Speaker 1: ago that really malfunctioned badly, and the kids should be
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  Speaker 1: booing that. But in other cases, how about the kids
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  Speaker 1: that are booing this but they actually used it to graduate.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you used AI and I'm sure a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them do artificial intelligence to get you through
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  Speaker 1: a final example or a term paper. Should you be
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  Speaker 1: booing the thought of AI? I don't know, but it
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  Speaker 1: kind of like encapsulates the whole issue that's going on now,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of misunderstanding. There's a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 1: fear based stuff on this that makes no sense at all.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll get into it except finding me. I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: Then the replay at the audio podcast wherever you like
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  Speaker 1: to get those. Now, let's go back a little bit
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  Speaker 1: because I actually did talk about this just I think
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  Speaker 1: it was a year ago this week where successfully, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to call it, that they used AI to
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  Speaker 1: read off the kids' names at Pace University. Big controversy
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  Speaker 1: at the time. You and I talked about it, but
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  Speaker 1: it was like cold machines. Now, the kids walked up
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  Speaker 1: to the the graduation assistant with their cell phones which
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  Speaker 1: had a barcode, and then they got scanned and then
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  Speaker 1: the AI read the name. You know, they're like cold machines.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they're like sardines out of a can. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to call it successful, this actually did work.
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  Speaker 1: This is an AI voice reading off the kids' names
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  Speaker 1: after if they scanned their bar code. Kelly Danko, Sophia Cicero.
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  Speaker 1: A Pace University at the time got blasted for this,
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  Speaker 1: but they defended it and they said, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: We've all sat through graduation ceremonies where it takes forever
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  Speaker 1: to get through the names. This was more efficient because
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  Speaker 1: of the setup with the barcode scans and the AI name. Fine,
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  Speaker 1: but that was the first toe in the water. That
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  Speaker 1: was the first toe in the water for these artificial
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  Speaker 1: intelligence graduation ceremonies. Okay, there's a couple of things with
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  Speaker 1: this reading of the names with AI controversial already not
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  Speaker 1: good because of a couple of different things. The average
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  Speaker 1: college cost is I mean, depending on loans, grants, what
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  Speaker 1: kind of school it is, it could be anywhere from
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  Speaker 1: what ten thousand to sixty thousand a year to let's
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  Speaker 1: call it tens of thousands of dollars a year. Right
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  Speaker 1: that somebody who's paying, either the government or the kid
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  Speaker 1: and student loans or the parent. It's expensive and we
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  Speaker 1: all know about the issue. Where is it really worth
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  Speaker 1: going to college now if you have one of these
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  Speaker 1: useless degrees and not can be able to pay off
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  Speaker 1: your loans. We all know that regardless the cost of colleges,
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  Speaker 1: they they can't have one of their academic staff actually
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  Speaker 1: read names. They're that lazy. That's the first issue. So
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  Speaker 1: I got quite a chuckle when this thing didn't go
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  Speaker 1: well at all. Let's go to Glendale Community College in Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: What happens when the names don't get read properly and
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  Speaker 1: there's a big delay and then they skip names and
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  Speaker 1: it's mass hysteria and you have a whole graduating class
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  Speaker 1: standing up, confused and you don't know what to do. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's when the university president has to get out there
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  Speaker 1: and make an apology. Listen to the crowd and see
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  Speaker 1: how this went.
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  Speaker 2: Graduates, everyone who is standing I's this is. Here's what's happening.
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  Speaker 2: We're using a new AI system as our reader. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so that is that is a lesson learned for us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she and she goes on to say we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna use some critical thinking skills here. Okay, right, couldn't you?
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  Speaker 1: For you visual doesn't do any of good if you're
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  Speaker 1: an audio listener, but for your visuals can you can't?
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  Speaker 1: You just imagine this university president who's been in academia
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  Speaker 1: her whole life telling you, Oh, I'm sorry, AI wiped
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  Speaker 1: out your whole bank account. That's what's happening. I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, AD's a little clue and what the students,
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  Speaker 1: what the kids feel about AI, whether or not they
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  Speaker 1: used it. Let's go to another one earlier in the week.
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  Speaker 1: This is the University of Central Florida UCF. That's another
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  Speaker 1: place I've given a lot of money to. One of
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  Speaker 1: the graduation speeches, of which there are many now talking
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  Speaker 1: about AI, and almost every single one of them are
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  Speaker 1: getting booed like this lady.
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  Speaker 3: Now that said, we are living in a time of
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  Speaker 3: profound change. That's an understatement, right, profound change. Change is exciting,
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  Speaker 3: very exciting, and let's face it, change can be daunting.
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  Speaker 3: The rise of artificial intelligence is the next industrial revolution?
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  Speaker 4: WHOA what happened? Okay, I struck a chord Like.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't think that was going to happen. I get
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  Speaker 1: what she was trying to do. But here's a classic
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  Speaker 1: case of a lady that's been in academia her whole life. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this wasn't one of the famous speakers. This was from
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  Speaker 1: the school I don't know, one of the college presidents
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  Speaker 1: at UCF. She turns around to the other staff and
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  Speaker 1: goes when the when the kids ooh loudly as you
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  Speaker 1: heard there, what happened? I struck a chord. Classic example
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  Speaker 1: of someone who's in the university system completely clueless about
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  Speaker 1: what's happening in the real world. The kids know.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 1: What she tried to do was say, just to AI,
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  Speaker 1: it's a yes, these are scary times, but AI is
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  Speaker 1: the new industrial revolution. These are kids sending out resumes
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  Speaker 1: right now, trying to get jobs, and you just told
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  Speaker 1: them that most of their jobs that they're dropplying for
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  Speaker 1: a about to be replaced. And she didn't understand why
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  Speaker 1: kids are booing, Gee, you think there's something wrong there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's something wrong with AI. There's something
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  Speaker 1: wrong with the university staff being absolutely clueless and how
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  Speaker 1: it works in the real world. The kids boor about AI,
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  Speaker 1: and she turns around and she has no clue why
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  Speaker 1: that's a problem. I would say, right, But again, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna go back to my main theme and My main question,
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  Speaker 1: how many of these kids booing these AI graduation ceremony topics,
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  Speaker 1: not reading of the names, How many of them actually
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  Speaker 1: used AI to graduate and to get out of there?
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  Speaker 1: Just keep that in mind. But now here's another university.
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  Speaker 1: Here's another university president from this week. This one is
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  Speaker 1: Middle Tennessee State. Now this guy I would boo just
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  Speaker 1: because he's obnoxious in his voice and I can't stand him.
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  Speaker 1: But this guy, how about the way he uses AI.
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  Speaker 1: His basic message to these kids who aren't happy with
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  Speaker 1: it is deal with it.
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  Speaker 5: Here he is streaming, rewrote the economics, social media, rewrote
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  Speaker 5: the discovery model. AI is rewriting production as we sit here.
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  Speaker 2: I know it.
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  Speaker 1: Deal with it. Like I said, it's a tool. You
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  Speaker 1: imagine you're a kid, you just got a business degree
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  Speaker 1: or a marketing to you out of Middle Tennessee State,
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  Speaker 1: and this guy brings up AI and people start booing
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  Speaker 1: because they're afraid of it. It's responses. I know, deal
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  Speaker 1: with it. I demand my money back, I think.
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  Speaker 5: See.
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  Speaker 1: See that's another that's another reason why these kids are
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  Speaker 1: booing the thought of artificial intelligence, that these graduation ceremonies
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  Speaker 1: or actually using them in the ceremony. The people telling
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  Speaker 1: them about AI, who are from the university have absolutely
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  Speaker 1: no clue how this is going to affect them in
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  Speaker 1: the real world. Absolutely none. That's why they're shocked and
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  Speaker 1: they can't understand why the kids are booming. But there
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  Speaker 1: you got this one. So it's not all university presidents.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes they bring in some heavy hitters. So this one
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  Speaker 1: is at the University of Arizona and they brought in
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  Speaker 1: Eric Schmidt. Now he is a former Google CEO. You
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  Speaker 1: think he knows something about the emergence of AI and
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  Speaker 1: what it means to the world and probably what it
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  Speaker 1: means to these kids. Here's a classic example of this
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  Speaker 1: guy trying to tell these kids how to prepare for
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  Speaker 1: AI in this world and what it means. Well, they
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  Speaker 1: boot him too. Interesting. Last December, Time magazine selected its
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  Speaker 1: person Year for twenty twenty five, and with this time
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  Speaker 1: it was the architects of Artificial Intelligence. Interesting. It will
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  Speaker 1: touch every profession, every classroom, every hospital, every laboratory, every
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  Speaker 1: person and every relationship you have. I know he finished
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  Speaker 1: his speech, was I guess just under a half hour.
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  Speaker 1: I looked at that it was like twenty five minutes.
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  Speaker 1: He was booed the entire time. Now there's a case
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  Speaker 1: of a guy who's not a clueless professor. He hasn't
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  Speaker 1: been hiding his away in academia for a world. He
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  Speaker 1: is a tech guy, whether or not you're like Google.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's controversial as well, and I know that
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  Speaker 1: censorship issue, but that guy knows full well because of
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  Speaker 1: his experience what AI brings to the world. And he
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  Speaker 1: tried to tell the kids. He understood he was going
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  Speaker 1: to get booed. He understands it because he knows what's
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  Speaker 1: up there in the real world. Now, he tried. Now again,
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  Speaker 1: there's a case of some pretty good information that guy had,
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  Speaker 1: but the kids didn't want to hear it anyway. And
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  Speaker 1: I understand that. You know, part of this is they
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  Speaker 1: just worked for four maybe plus years to get their degrees.
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  Speaker 1: They've worked hard, they want to be inspired, and they
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  Speaker 1: were just told that it's going to replace every aspect
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  Speaker 1: of their lives. Understandable, maybe in a graduation speech, that's
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  Speaker 1: not what you want to hear about. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: interesting that there are just under a dozen graduation commencement
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  Speaker 1: speeches from university people and sometimes tech people like Eric
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  Speaker 1: Schmidt right there all talking about AI. This is the
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  Speaker 1: telltale time, telltale sign for all of us that this
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  Speaker 1: truly is. They're right about this an emerging factor on everything.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of misinformation, a lot of information about
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  Speaker 1: tech technology, the rapid pace at which all of this
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  Speaker 1: stuff is coming at our lives. Again, I'll go back
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  Speaker 1: to the theme, how many of these kids use artificial
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  Speaker 1: intelligence to actually graduate and that are still booing the
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  Speaker 1: thought of it. That's a little bit different from actually
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  Speaker 1: a an AI read the names of their graduates. That's ridiculous,
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  Speaker 1: but still booing the thought of the thing. But they've
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  Speaker 1: used it themselves. But it's like anything. It's like any
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  Speaker 1: new emerging technology. You're going to use it, grab hold
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  Speaker 1: of it, at least understand what it is. Are you
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  Speaker 1: going to be food for somebody who is?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: Who said that? This guy and this was the best
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  Speaker 1: common sense answer and discussion of this that I heard
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  Speaker 1: throughout the entire thing. This was a speech, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what the school was. I couldn't find out
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  Speaker 1: what it was. But again from this week, Jensen Hwang,
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  Speaker 1: the Navidia guy, big Elon Musk guy, Jensen had the
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  Speaker 1: best common sets approach for AI that I've heard yet
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  Speaker 1: in these commencements. Peace AI is not likely to replace you.
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  Speaker 1: But someone using AI better than you might, doesn't that
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  Speaker 1: say at all? That's exactly what it is. That's the
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  Speaker 1: exact same way as it's been throughout every technological advance
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  Speaker 1: going back centuries. Right, the printing press that kind of
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  Speaker 1: replaced people who are like Yard Barker is telling you
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  Speaker 1: about the news, right anything? The automobile. You know what
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  Speaker 1: Henry Ford said? Did you ever hear this quote? When
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  Speaker 1: they asked him about the automobile and what people thought
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  Speaker 1: of it, They were afraid of it. There was actually,
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  Speaker 1: if you look back in business history, people were trying
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  Speaker 1: to stop Henry Ford from building the Model T and
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  Speaker 1: other car manufacturers because they thought if you went over
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  Speaker 1: thirty miles an hour in a car, your head would explode.
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  Speaker 1: Honest to God, Swear to God. That was actually a thing.
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  Speaker 1: They actually said that. Later on, they asked Henry Ford
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  Speaker 1: when he was older, you know what did you think
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  Speaker 1: about the public response to this? You know what he said,
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  Speaker 1: He goes, if I had asked people what they wanted
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  Speaker 1: and just went based on that, they would have told
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  Speaker 1: me they want a faster horse. That's part of it, too. Car.
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  Speaker 1: Hard cold reality is technology comes whether we want it
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  Speaker 1: or not. It's a matter of who's going to grab
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  Speaker 1: hold of it and make use of it. There's sure
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  Speaker 1: it's a change, absolutely, but I would tell you this,
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  Speaker 1: and it's the same thing I'm doing. If you've got
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  Speaker 1: kids who are entering the workforce now, or you are
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  Speaker 1: you're older, or you're a you know gen X like
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  Speaker 1: I am, you're afraid of being replaced, you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to be What Jensen Hwang said right there was exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the technology that's going to replace you. Most
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  Speaker 1: likely it's somebody that knows knows how to grab hold
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  Speaker 1: of it. And here's the great news to take out
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  Speaker 1: of all of this, And all these kids understand that,
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  Speaker 1: even the ones that we're booing, there's all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: ways to learn it without having to go back to
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  Speaker 1: college to grab hold of AI or certifications or anything
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  Speaker 1: else to get experience with it. The great thing about
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  Speaker 1: this technology is, you know, back in the twenties, not
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  Speaker 1: everybody could afford a Model T car. Now everybody can
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  Speaker 1: afford to learn AI and learn what it does. It's
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  Speaker 1: right in front of you. It's even in your phone,
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  Speaker 1: which you're probably holding right now, so he can do it.
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  Speaker 1: So the kids are not happy with AI, at least
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  Speaker 1: at their graduation ceremonies. No one thing having AI read
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  Speaker 1: the names. That's the laziest thing ever. I would boo
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  Speaker 1: that too, that's ridiculous. But he's graduation tech guys that
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  Speaker 1: are trying to tell these kids about AI. Those are
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  Speaker 1: the ones to listen to, not the university professors. But
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  Speaker 1: it's all right there. It's a lot of misinformation about it,
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  Speaker 1: like the misinformation with these AI, these AI data centers. Right,
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  Speaker 1: have you heard some of that stuff? They're taking over,
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  Speaker 1: they're taking all the land. No, they're not. No, never
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  Speaker 1: heard a piece of technology you get miss aligned so
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  Speaker 1: quickly in mainstreamedia. It's ridiculous. It's like any technology that's
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  Speaker 1: out there. You'll have to be afraid of it. You
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  Speaker 1: just have to be aware of it and learn it.
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  Speaker 1: It's evolution. Anyway, Thanks for finding me. I appreciate you
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  Speaker 1: as always. There's gonna be more of these guys. I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait for these. I'm interested to see it. My
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  Speaker 1: daughter's college graduation ceremony. It's a I've told you this before.
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  Speaker 1: It's an artsy fartsy school. I know I get you
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  Speaker 1: bad investment. Maybe maybe not. I'm interested to see if
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  Speaker 1: they bring this up with AI kind. I tend to
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  Speaker 1: think not. We'll see anyway. More of these speeches are
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  Speaker 1: coming anyway, but be aware of it. Thanks to finding me.
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