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Week Seven · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Music. And welcome back to the Boundary
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  Corner podcast department College Huddle Network along my
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  partners, Brian Siegler and Jonathan Talley.
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  I am Curtis Wilson and this episode is brought to you by
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  Doctor Jeremy Counts at the Counts Family Pharmacy in
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  Blacksburg, your friendly neighborhood pharmacy, three O 1
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  S Main St. Fellas, it is a winning Tuesday.
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  How's everybody doing today? Winning Tuesday, buddy.
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  I am, as they say in the biz, loving it.
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  What a crazy ass weekend in college football, and I'm glad
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  that we weren't part of that statistic.
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  I can agree it was good to watch a game and relax, like be able
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  to drink something and hold it down without throwing it up
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  every 5 minutes. You know what I'm saying?
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  And I'm just talking about water.
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  I ain't talking about alcohol because a lot of times when you
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  watching games, you can't eat and you can't drink.
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  You don't know what's going up three hours.
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  That's not, we ain't pregnant. We ain't supposed to be having
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  stomach aches that, well, most of us ain't, you know, ain't
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  supposed to be having stomach aches that long.
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  So it was good just to be able to kind of sit back, relax,
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  watch a game. Things look the way they were
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  supposed to look. People did what they were
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  supposed to do. It's excitement.
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  And we all go on load that tonight as we always we tell the
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  truth on Tuesdays about the game.
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  But can we just before we jump all into that and we do have a
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  special guest coming on with us later that you all find out in a
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  little while. It's going to be a lot of fun to
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  talk to him. Let's go back 17 years ago.
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  We were all in our 20s, all probably have a good time.
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  Not not, not much care in the world.
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  Here, there. Y'all remember 2007, right?
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  You heard that? Crazy ass freaking football
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  year, dude. Look crazy.
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  Look crazy? I remember it.
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  I remember it. I remember it for good and bad.
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  Yeah, say that. Because because we were on the
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  side of some of that. I was like, yeah, we was up in
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  there. We were really up in there, but
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  I'm going to tell y'all Friday night you were starting with
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  Syracuse, UNLV, all the way to 2:30 in the morning with Cal and
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  Miami and all the upsets in between.
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  That was one of the wildest days ever.
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  And like Tally said, I'm glad we were not a part of it.
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  I am glad at a certain point in time of watching our game, I
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  still paid attention, but I'm sort of watching some of those
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  other things and it was just like, is this really going to
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  happen? So, so so Tally had had people
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  around your area been prodding you all year saying y'all lost a
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  Vanderbilt. Oh man, it's been, that's the
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  beauty of college football. It's a it's a week to week
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  thing. And I'm so, I'm so hokey that
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  it's like at this point I just take it for the week.
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  You got these people that just are so excited every week.
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  Oh, we beat Georgia. I can't believe y'all lost to
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  Vanderbilt. When we lost to Vandy, I was
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  getting messages from you know what?
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  I got more messages from Auburn fans than I did Alabama fans.
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  The Alabama fans didn't even have Vandy on their radar.
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  Like they were just like, OK, whatever, you know?
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  But I had a lot of my Auburn friends was like, can't believe
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  y'all went to Nashville and lost to Vandy.
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  Oh, Oh well, it must be the SEC and all this.
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  Like I heard that so much and I'm like, OK, I was like, I
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  don't know who they going to get.
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  They going to get somebody and they got somebody.
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  They they got the head of the food chain is what they got.
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  Oh man, that #1 ranking did not last long.
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  Not long at all. It was they.
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  They shouldn't have jumped taxes anyway.
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  So that was that was like a come up.
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  Inside. Oh yeah, it was.
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  A self self correction. And it's been it's been very,
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  very mixed emotions between Alabama fans that I've seen just
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  putting up Facebook posts and kind of messing with them and,
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  you know, talking to them. You got half of the fans to go.
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  What's his first year? We didn't expect him to go
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  undefeated. And you know, we got a new we
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  got a new program that, you know, we still can get in the
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  playoffs. So we ain't tripping.
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  We rather lose to them now than lose this.
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  Then you got that other group that's going our deep.
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  Our defensive coordinator sucks and we got players that ain't
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  listening. It would never happen under
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  nick. What are we going to do?
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  So it's if you think we crazy like bro, I'm telling you like
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  they they expect to win every game, every single game.
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  So it's been a little nuts for just the people that I even know
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  and like I said, just the kind of Facebook friends and things.
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  Yeah, I've. I've heard some of the crazy
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  folks calling into fire bombs, so I can only.
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  Imagine what you're hearing. Oh yeah, he got some.
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  I know he man, I know he getting paid right now, you know, 'cause
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  he know he, he, he live, he lives on them losses, man.
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  That's what he makes the money when, when something bad
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  happens. So yeah, he, he, he feeling good
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  right now. Well, what a piece about
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  watching that game because that was a 4/24/15 kick.
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  So our game had gotten, we were kind of under control because
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  kind of when, when the, when the first quarter ended, there was
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  getting there halftime for our game.
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  We come out of half, we scored a 21 and I'm, I'm going to be
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  honest watching Stanford and I know we're going to talk about
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  it, but it was like they ain't driving the field more than
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  maybe once to get a touchdown. They're not driving 3 or.
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  Four times, never thought they were going to hit a big play on.
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  Us no, they couldn't hit a. Big play.
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  We're not. That's in the data.
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  Once we had the two touchdown lead, it was like all right, so.
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  So we're just. Going to keep them at least at
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  arm's pace the the rest of the way because they they can't
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  score quick. I'm not worried about that.
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  They're going to try to methodically run the ball down
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  the field and occasionally mix in a couple passes here there,
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  but they're not going to do anything crazy.
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  So you weren't really worried about them getting back in.
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  And then I don't know about y'all, but I got hit up by
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  Lavar, Our buddy Lavar, he sent me a message.
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  He's like, hey, I know it's early 14.
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  Nothing, Vandy. Yeah.
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  But it was, it was. And that became our focus.
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  Then. I was paying attention to our
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  game. I saw like Keonta's
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  interception, some of the late John's kick and everything.
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  But you saw Diego Pavia and you saw that offense start running.
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  It was just like, can they really do this?
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  But when Bama got close, it was like, I thought it was like, oh,
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  that's it, that's it. They they toyed with them.
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  So because of how good Vanderbilt is, because of how yo
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  we like the 8th rank, was it 8th or 9th strength to schedule now?
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  Yeah, it's something crazy. It's insane.
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  And. And apparently, based on where
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  we at now, the easiest going forward, one of the easiest
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  going forward. Don't listen to it.
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  They don't. Have.
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  Changes. It changes every week.
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  It does. Don't be.
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  Yes, I did. I did see that though, like you
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  said, I mean, but. Just say it in general.
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  And then it got better Saturday evening when Tennessee lost to
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  Arkansas because they were running their mouth.
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  That fan base had been running their mouth.
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  We're going to be in about 100. We're going to smoke them like,
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  no. And then the last play of that
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  game is the brilliance of college football that kids
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  running. And it's like stupid.
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  It ain't no more time left on the clock.
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  You need to you need to throw the football and he steps out of
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  bounds. Takes a hit while he steps out
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  of bounds. It's just like y'all dumb.
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  Yeah, crazy dumb boy. You're earning this one.
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  Yeah, definitely. It was a it was a crazy good
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  week. You're doing a weekend kind of
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  like you said, Curtis. The thing that was so intriguing
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  to me and, and just what first of all, with the transport
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  portal, I feel like it does even college football out more
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  because you have so many teams who usually wouldn't be able to
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  compete. Now you really don't know
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  because they have these players that probably wouldn't have been
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  there that come in and can make a difference.
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  But when you watch that Vanderbilt game, it's like they
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  controlled the game the whole game.
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  That was more like it. It's cool that they won, but the
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  thing to me was like they controlled it, like they were
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  the better team that day, you know what I'm saying?
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  So yeah, that was that was crazy.
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  And it is true, it's the transfer portal.
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  And I know a lot of people were thinking it's not going to make
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  a difference because all the best players are going to go to
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  these big programs. The whole piece is you can't do
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  that with limitations. And the whole piece is also, if
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  you're a really good player, what do you want to do?
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  It's why we got APR right. You want to play.
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  Because you can be the most talented person in the entire
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  country. If you don't get on the field,
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  you ain't making it to Sunday. And they can say, well, NIL is
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  going to pay. You know what, if you don't get
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  on the field. I got this eerie feeling, those
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  NIL dollars that you might have got the first year that was six
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  or seven figures, you know, Has he been on the field yet?
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  Now we still paying him $400,000.
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  Yeah, we are. We ain't paying him $400,000
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  next year. We're going to pay him 5050 if
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  he wants to stay, right? It's that thing that's going on
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  now. I'm going to ask you all this
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  before we get into telling the truth.
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  Actually, this is a tell the truth moment.
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  Did the ACC save Miami a second time?
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  Yep, at least on two calls in that final drive, if not more,
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  should have been targeting. They even looked at it.
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  They looked at it again. No targeting on the the go
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  ahead. You had like 2.
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  Yeah. 6 yards downfield. Yeah, yeah.
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  It's like, I don't know, man. I do think that they they were
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  helped again. But on the other hand, I'm like,
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  Cal, if you got somebody and again, I get it, you, you still
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  have to call the game the way it's supposed to.
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  I know we were up on Miami, I think 10 points, but it was up
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  on Miami. Big man at home.
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  You're you're up big at home with game day there.
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  You cannot squat. You can't even let them hang
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  around. You can't squander that.
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  So I'm tell you, when I thought it was a little freaky, though,
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  I didn't say nothing, but I was watching it when the when the
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  receiver, when they went for it on the fourth down, the the
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  running back comes out of the back back field and catches
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  that, that fourth and one little, you know, flat route and
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  takes it like 60 yards or whatever.
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  And he's high stepping to the end zone like he's doing that.
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  And then he goes and grabs the pom poms.
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  I was like, I don't know if I'd be doing all that now, you know
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  what I'm saying? Like I kind of was thinking
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  getting a little bit too excited, you know what I'm
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  saying? Knock him off, then we'll
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  celebrate. But yeah, I went to sleep
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  thinking for sure that Kyle had the game and woke up the next
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  morning and they figured out they lost by one.
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  I was like wow. It is what it is.
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  It's college football. It's a crazy world.
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  And to your point, you don't grab the pom poms until the
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  scoreboard says 000 and it's over.
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  Then you can grab the pom poms and play all you want.
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  But let's get to the Hokies. Hokies take care of Stanford on
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  the road, a 2.300 mile flight, 6 hours in the air for the boys to
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  go out there and spank them 31 to 7 and it's a lot.
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  That went well on Saturday. We can be straight up with that.
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  You can be real with it. But I'm going to tell you the
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  one that I loved because we said it.
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  I said it a couple weeks ago and we've been saying it on this
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  podcast. We need an identity.
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  We need an identity. I went further and said we need
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  to run the ball 6% of the time passing 40.
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  We were right on 6040. And how did Kyron look?
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  Kyron look more comfortable. We rolled the pocket a little
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  bit. He got some runs in.
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  Tuden got some runs in. His accuracy was up 70%.
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  One of the actually maybe the most accurate passing game in
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  Virginia Tech history, if not very close to it.
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  You know, some big plays, some smart plays.
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  Tally, you've been saying it for weeks.
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  They finally let Kyron be Kyron. Let him be young man.
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  So my thing is, you know, from watching the game and what I've
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  seen all season and I don't know what the behind the scenes talks
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  are. I don't know, you know, I know
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  Karen wants to go to the NFL, you know, of course, you know,
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  that's why they play the game. And I don't know what's been
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  promised to him. I don't know what the what they
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  want to do to developed him to be a NFL quarterback.
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  But I do know the system they were trying to put him in at the
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  beginning of the season wasn't working.
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  He is never going to be dropped back and passed the ball 40
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  times to these receivers, even if he plays in the NFLI.
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  Don't think that's what he's good at, you know what I'm
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  saying? He's got to move around.
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  He's got to do some different things.
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  You got to roll the pocket. He has to get comfortable.
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  It's like I don't want my quarterback to take a lot of
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  hits. But it seems like Kyron gets
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  energized when he feels some contact, you know what I'm
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  saying? Like he's not afraid of it.
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  He knows how to fall forward. He knows when the.
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  Oh, we got a frozen tally here. There we go.
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  Nope. He's still frozen.
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  He's still. Frozen.
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  Frozen in time. Brian, I'll let you continue the
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  Grand Tare until Tally gets back.
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  Yeah, I mean speaking to to to what Karen does.
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  Well, I mean, you know, when we look at it it, it's really
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  funny. I mean, we talk about trying to
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  limit the quarterback getting hit and, and stuff like that.
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  But the only time I've ever seen him come up gimpy is when he
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  gets hit in the pocket or when a right tackle steps on his leg.
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  So you know, when he's moving, when he's running, he looks like
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  a different quarterback. When we play a game that runs
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  through him and what he can do with his legs and what Tooten
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  can do in the running game and let everything else kind of
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  supplement and complement that, That's when this offense looks
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  really good. And it, it's, it's helping
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  because, you know, you're seeing that threat and you're seeing
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  some of those things that weren't open in the game early
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  in the year open up a little bit.
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  And I think some of that is that we're, we're being a little bit
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  smarter with our, our motion. I'm seeing a lot of lot more
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  misdirection with motion and being smart with the way that
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  we're using the, you know, everybody was complaining about,
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  OK, well, we're going, you know, east West instead of
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  north-south. But when you're smart with
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  motion, you can spread folks out and get people's eyes confused
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  and, and, and make that work. And we're doing that a whole lot
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  better now than we were doing at the start of the season.
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  So that's, that's going to be some credit to Tyler Bowen
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  making some adjustments with what he was doing early a little
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  bit, probably too vanilla and being a little bit more complex
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  with it now. Well.
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  Yeah, and it and it's also the taking of the first four weeks
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  of the season because again, I think we're going to I think
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  there's going to be a lot of Tech fans.
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  I'm one of them and I'll probably ponder it all year is
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  what we saw the last two weeks. If if that is the team that
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  shows up in Vandy and I know vandability in Alabama, but I
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  think this team would beat that Vandy team.
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  I think this team would beat that Rutgers team.
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  Why did it take so long? That's going to be our
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  frustration because that doesn't need to happen.
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  You've had this group ready for a couple years and I know I'm
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  getting a little bit, you know, a little bit negative in that
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  sense. But yeah, he did look relaxed in
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  the pocket that week. And let's just be straight up
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  with it. When he got relaxed in the
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  pocket, what kind of was the issue?
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  The first four weeks was it was only a few guys showing up in
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  catching balls. Was not that way.
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  Saturday, five guys with catches led by Daquan Felton at Is he
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  back? He's coming back in.
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  Is he back all right? It's cycle before I get on that,
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  all right? I'm back.
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  He's back. Alabama Internet baby.
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  Man, I'm telling you, they didn't like it.
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  They didn't like that talking about Vanderbilt stuff.
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  Oh. Man, they they.
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  Cut it off. They cut it off.
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  I had to reboot it everything. Everything while I was sitting
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  here saying Tally, we would mention a little bit more about
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  Kyra looking comfortable and everything, but I was saying
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  here if we noticed the boss scores the last few weeks pre
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  Miami won a lot of names interceding just a couple boss
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  couple guys where this this Saturday?
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  Yeah, Daquan Felton leading the way.
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  You had Steven, you had Jay Lane, you had Aiden Green making
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  catches. You had little Gosnell making
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  catches, five guys multiple catches.
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  And I mean that that that catching the the the the
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  catching pass to Daquan Felton there in the early third
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  quarter. That's pretty because it won't.
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  It was one spot he could get that ball through and he put it
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  right on them it. Was a tight window and a great
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  catch by Felton on that one because I mean, he had the where
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  he had to put it in there. It was like a little bit behind
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  him, reached back, snatched it off to the races, baby.
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  Yeah, and that's kind of what I'm, I'm sure y'all were hitting
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  on it, but kind of what I was saying before the Internet
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  decided to act crazy was like, I understand they probably had a a
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  lot of stuff they had to talk about before the season, you
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  know, getting people to come back.
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  And I know everybody wants to shine, but at the same time
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  everybody wants to win. You got to do the things that
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  help your team win. You know, and Kyron sitting back
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  there throwing the ball 40 times to six different receivers may
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  not be the winning recipe, you know, especially when you got a
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  running back like 2. And like, I feel like they knew
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  that Stafford had a a good running defense, but they still
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  say it. We got to go through we got to
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  we have to go through two. He didn't have the 100 yard game
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  like he's been having, but every run that he touched the ball, he
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  punished somebody on that defense.
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  He he put I mean, even the announcers were saying they
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  cannot get him to fall backwards.
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  He was getting hit by two and three people.
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  He kept falling forward. So you know, shout out to him
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  for for going out and performing like he has being stable for us
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  all season. But just those 73 yards he got
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  were tough yards, man. But he did his job.
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  And that just opens up so much for our offense.
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  So when, when, when Tooten is going the way he's going, Kyron
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  feeds off of it, then we open up the pass game.
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  It's going to be hard for people to beat us if we play like that.
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  Yeah. And, and to that point, I mean,
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  when you look at what Tooten was able to do on the ground, and I
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  think the big thing that we're seeing we we didn't, you know,
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  we didn't weren't necessarily great on a yards per carry
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  standpoint, or at least as good as we've been the last few
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  weeks, but they were effective. There wasn't a whole lot of
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  tackles for loss. It kept us on schedule and it it
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  enabled us to do the things we wanted to do in the passing game
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  to complement that rushing attack.
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  So I think that's the big thing to take away from that is that,
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  you know, they do have a very good rush defense.
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  We still put up put up a very good number against them in the
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  rushing attack Despite that and we're able to really exploit
• 20:44
  them in the passing game. Yeah, they are an elite rush
• 20:47
  defense. They are a top 15 rush defense
• 20:50
  in the country. They given up under 90 yards a
• 20:54
  game under. You don't rush for 90 yards a
• 20:57
  game. You ain't doing much at all.
• 21:00
  We got over 50 more than that Saturday, but we kept going to
• 21:05
  it. We didn't just quit.
• 21:06
  It wasn't like, well, we can't run the ball that good.
• 21:09
  We ain't getting 15 yards. We ain't averaging A to carry
• 21:12
  like we did last week. Let's just stop.
• 21:14
  It was like no tally. To your point, the identity is
• 21:17
  still to run the ball and punish.
• 21:21
  And they keep every time you get a little closer and you get 3 or
• 21:24
  4 more, the safeties get a little bit more down.
• 21:27
  The linebackers try to take a step quicker to get there right
• 21:29
  because they're trying to get the tackle for loss.
• 21:31
  And that's what happened Saturday.
• 21:32
  They were out of spots a few times that the first touchdown,
• 21:37
  Steven Godnell a little inside slant because they faked it.
• 21:40
  That linebacker just bit up on the outside because because he
• 21:43
  saw the the the inside linebacker had basically took
• 21:46
  the gap away from 2 and he was coming to take the gap away If
• 21:49
  Kyron pulled and the second he pulled and he saw that
• 21:51
  linebacker step, Stephen was right there.
• 21:54
  Perfect slant, slant touchdown. It's not a.
• 21:58
  Problem. What I loved.
• 22:00
  Go ahead. Yeah, What I loved about that
• 22:01
  drive was just. It was a methodical Dr. just I
• 22:06
  mean, you love to see big plays, but it was just like they just
• 22:09
  said, we're going to be bigger and stronger than you this game.
• 22:12
  If y'all want to be physical, we're going to be physical.
• 22:14
  And they just, we just worked our way down the field.
• 22:16
  What did you say? What did you say last week we
• 22:19
  needed to do? What did I say?
• 22:21
  Oh, punch. We had.
• 22:23
  You had to punch, man. I forgot.
• 22:26
  I said a lot of stuff. Crazy.
• 22:28
  Keep punching. Yeah, you got a punch, man.
• 22:30
  I was like, you gotta yeah, you got to drink that Red Bull and
• 22:33
  get pissed like that's what we did.
• 22:35
  And you know, like even they had a long drive, they didn't finish
• 22:38
  with points. We had a long drive, we got an
• 22:41
  end zone. And from then on it was just
• 22:43
  like, OK, it's business as usual, let's go make it happen.
• 22:46
  So Yep, great to see they. They didn't get their job done.
• 22:49
  We came back and that first drive was scripted really well
• 22:52
  there. We saw a lot of different
• 22:53
  things. We saw some, I, I talked about
• 22:56
  it while you were getting your Internet straight there Tally,
• 22:59
  you know, some different motions thrown in with some of those
• 23:03
  East West plays that we were, we've been running a lot of that
• 23:06
  was getting the linebackers eyes a lot more confused and giving
• 23:10
  us an opportunity to get some plus yards on those plays that
• 23:13
  we weren't seeing earlier in the year.
• 23:15
  You know, we mixed in a little little in and around on that one
• 23:20
  to, to Jay Lane. That got us a good like 20 yard
• 23:23
  gain on that. Should have been a touchdown.
• 23:25
  Yeah, should have been a touchdown.
• 23:27
  Should have, but I mean, it was, it was a I, I like the calling,
• 23:32
  I like the mix. I, I, I like kind of the way
• 23:35
  they approach that drive and, and really kind of, I think set
• 23:39
  the tone for the rest of the game from an offensive
• 23:41
  standpoint. I'm telling y'all, man, I don't,
• 23:44
  I don't know why I keep seeing it and feeling it, but they got
• 23:48
  to continue to like they got to get to car Heath involved in
• 23:51
  that offense. If I'm the defensive
• 23:54
  coordinator, like of course, I think I know they see what we
• 23:57
  see when he gets on the field. He just had something a little
• 24:00
  bit different, you know, like he hadn't been able to do much with
• 24:03
  the ball because we hadn't got him the ball much.
• 24:05
  But if you go back and look at that play, he was the one that
• 24:08
  was motioning and when Karen took off, they look like they
• 24:12
  were going to run the option the other way.
• 24:14
  It was to Kai Heath that had everybody's eyes going one way
• 24:18
  and I'm like, I probably would have been following Jay Lane,
• 24:20
  which is who he tossed it to, and he went the other way.
• 24:23
  So I mean, with just a couple of things that he's done, people's
• 24:28
  noticing when he comes in the game, which is a good thing.
• 24:30
  I just want the coaches to continue to get him involved in
• 24:33
  the game because I think that when he touches the ball, he's
• 24:37
  going to be electric. And I mean, you know, when we
• 24:41
  look at that, I mean, there's a reason that somebody like, you
• 24:45
  know, XTB that had a good number of snaps last year, you know,
• 24:48
  most of those are going to Takahi this year.
• 24:50
  And and there's a reason for that because he's got this like
• 24:55
  ability. I think that's a little bit more
• 24:57
  dynamic. And you know, you're seeing it
• 24:59
  on special teams and you're seeing it even even most of
• 25:02
  these, you know, some of these decoy opportunities on offense,
• 25:05
  you know, you're seeing them respect the play making ability
• 25:10
  to that he has. So it's going to be interesting
• 25:12
  to see if we can get him more involved in the offense.
• 25:15
  And obviously, you know, look at long term, you know, being one
• 25:18
  of those, you know, big options at slot. 100% Well, offense,
• 25:23
  we've been talking about the 1st 15 minutes here, I'll talk about
• 25:26
  the defense. Defense gave up seven points. 7
• 25:30
  They gave up one touchdown. They they cause pressure all day
• 25:35
  long. Somebody asked how many sacks do
• 25:37
  we have Saturday? It seems like is it 5?
• 25:42
  Could have been 8. Could.
• 25:43
  Have been eight, could have been eight.
• 25:46
  You know, Sheldon's always helping me on stats and stuff
• 25:50
  and the one they always talk about, he loves his habit Havoc
• 25:54
  stat. Our Havoc stat was basically
• 25:57
  20%. So basically one out of every 5
• 26:01
  plays they ran, we either got them for a loss, we got a sack,
• 26:04
  we tip to pass, we got in their face, we cause pressure 20,
• 26:08
  That's insane. I looked at the the data,
• 26:11
  literally that's a 94th percentile.
• 26:13
  That means it might be 5 or 6 teams in the country at that
• 26:18
  rate that was doing it Saturday. And I mean, you sit here and you
• 26:22
  say we had that many sacks, could have had more.
• 26:25
  Let's be honest. Let's be honest, a period didn't
• 26:28
  get a sack Saturday and we got that many.
• 26:32
  We need Caleb Spencer to finish on his sacks.
• 26:35
  He he keeps getting there. He keeps getting there, man.
• 26:39
  Go a little bit lower, drop, bend, bend, bend in the hips
• 26:42
  just a little bit more. They ducking up, they ducking
• 26:46
  out of them, you know what I'm saying?
• 26:47
  But he's there. He's in the right position.
• 26:50
  That lets me know that it's the right play call.
• 26:52
  So shout out to Marv. I think he was the ACC
• 26:57
  coordinator of the week or Co ACC, whatever he was, you know,
• 27:00
  got to give him some props. Yeah, give him some props for
• 27:03
  doing doing what he's supposed to do.
• 27:05
  Great game plan. And for the people, because we
• 27:07
  know some people out there to say, where's Stanford?
• 27:10
  They suck. You know, you're going to have
• 27:12
  those people who are always going to say something.
• 27:14
  Well, guess what? We play some other teams that
• 27:16
  everybody say suck and they still was causing problems.
• 27:20
  We wasn't putting a full game together against ODUI don't feel
• 27:24
  like we put a full game together against Marshall.
• 27:27
  I don't feel like we put a whole a full game together.
• 27:30
  Stanford, I feel like that was a complete game.
• 27:32
  You know, of course it wasn't perfect.
• 27:34
  No, no games are going to be perfect, but it was it was
• 27:36
  close. You know, it was a lot more put
• 27:39
  together than any other game we've played all year.
• 27:41
  So shout out to the team for being ready for having to go
• 27:45
  that far. Back to what Curtis said,
• 27:46
  talking about the defense causing havoc.
• 27:50
  You know, another pick, Kiante Jenkins, we knew he threw it
• 27:54
  right to you, you know, but that's OK, you caught it.
• 27:58
  We needed to. So hey man, I I enjoyed what I
• 28:01
  watched. Yeah, to piggyback on that, I
• 28:04
  mean, you know, we we've looked at two weeks in a row where you
• 28:09
  feel pretty good about most phases of the team.
• 28:13
  And, and, and at least from a competitive standpoint, this is
• 28:17
  kind of the the quality of play that we expected out of this
• 28:21
  team before the season. You know, we we thought that
• 28:25
  this team could go toe to toe with the Miami that that's
• 28:28
  ranked in the top ten. We thought this team should be
• 28:31
  able to handle a Stanford for four quarters and keep them at
• 28:34
  arm's length and then finish the job in the in the third and
• 28:37
  fourth quarter. And we did that.
• 28:40
  So we're starting to see this team play to the, the ability
• 28:43
  that we thought they had. And that's a very positive sign,
• 28:46
  right. So I, I like what I'm seeing.
• 28:50
  I want us to keep doing it. You know, when you, when you get
• 28:54
  to, you know, you, you'll call it a blowout.
• 28:57
  The final score is definitely a blowout in, in, you know, it's,
• 29:00
  it's a game that we handled start to finish.
• 29:03
  And, and I think that was a good thing for us to to do,
• 29:07
  especially how we saw most of September go for us.
• 29:11
  Yeah, this is one of those weird games.
• 29:14
  The score definitely screams blow out, but it wasn't like the
• 29:17
  blowout, if we had went up, if we had done 21 in the first
• 29:20
  half, I'd call it a blowout. It was a controlled game.
• 29:22
  It was like AI always like to use boxing terminology because
• 29:26
  it's one of those it's we were the better fighter.
• 29:28
  We knocked them down early. They kept coming.
• 29:31
  We knocked them down again. We didn't really knock them out
• 29:34
  until like the eighth round. They got the shit beat out of
• 29:37
  them, but we didn't really knock them out to the eighth round.
• 29:40
  But I'm going to say this and it's great seeing this and, and
• 29:43
  we've already said it, young players are starting to make an
• 29:47
  impact. We've already mentioned Caleb
• 29:49
  Spinner. He was a transfer, but he was a
• 29:51
  freshman last year down in Miami.
• 29:53
  He is young. We saw most Phillips last week,
• 29:56
  this week playing good. And there's one that literally,
• 30:00
  I kid you not, y'all, right before we got on, there's one
• 30:05
  player on the defensive line that started to pop.
• 30:09
  You all say, can we do it in? Can we do it in tune?
• 30:12
  123. Stevens.
• 30:15
  Stevens and and Tally, you were mentioning just his look, so
• 30:21
  kind of go on to what you were talking about before we jumped
• 30:24
  on tonight. Yeah, so of course, being, you
• 30:28
  know, Virginia Tech fan, you used to seeing, I mean, I don't
• 30:32
  want to, I don't want to diss nobody, but you used to see him
• 30:36
  5 foot 11, you know, 220 LB defensive ends and lineman.
• 30:42
  And that's OK. I ain't said nothing's wrong
• 30:44
  with that. Those guys play hard.
• 30:46
  But he just had a different look to him.
• 30:48
  You know, when you look across the line, a lot of our guys
• 30:51
  aren't the Super tall defensive lineman like you see in some of
• 30:56
  the SEC schools. But we have we're we're getting
• 31:00
  longer. But Stevens has a look to him.
• 31:07
  When you look at him, I'm like that He looks, you know, he
• 31:09
  looks thinner than everybody else.
• 31:12
  But the reason he looks thinner than everybody else is because
• 31:15
  he's 65, almost 66. And you know, he may be two 4245
• 31:21
  and he's quick. You know, he's moving.
• 31:23
  He he's got good moving. This wasn't the first week that
• 31:26
  he got on the field. He was on the field against
• 31:28
  Miami. So the the best in the ACC right
• 31:31
  now, you know, he he was on the field against them and he didn't
• 31:35
  look like he was missing a step, you know, because for the most
• 31:40
  part, when you play a team like Miami, they're going to be
• 31:42
  they're going to have playmakers and they're going to be fast.
• 31:45
  He didn't look out of place being out there, you know what
• 31:48
  I'm saying? He looks like he's a young
• 31:49
  player and he's getting some steps in, but he didn't look
• 31:53
  like the moment was too big. And then when you go to the
• 31:56
  Stanford game, you know, I'm really paying attention to his
• 31:59
  build and I'm looking at him. I'm like, oh, he quicker than
• 32:01
  them. Oh, he's moving.
• 32:03
  Oh, he's, oh, he knows what he's doing.
• 32:05
  Oh, he's going to the right places.
• 32:06
  So to see that and then along with, you know, Q Reddish, you
• 32:12
  know, a true freshman, you know, that came in early, just got out
• 32:17
  of high school and he's on on the field.
• 32:21
  And probably I think somebody put it in the chat, said he had
• 32:23
  the cleanest tackle of anybody, perfect form tackle, running
• 32:28
  back, tries to jump through the hole.
• 32:30
  He comes in, puts the head on the side where the ball is,
• 32:32
  drives him into the ground perfect.
• 32:34
  Like that's what we have on the bench.
• 32:38
  That's some not just those players that we mentioned, but I
• 32:41
  feel like it's a lot more over there than what that came from.
• 32:44
  So I ain't going to start talking about next year.
• 32:47
  But I mean, I'm excited for the future, man.
• 32:49
  And I think Steven said it, you know, I think Stevens was one of
• 32:53
  prize first commits or first recruits, but then he got hurt.
• 32:56
  I think he tore his ACL or something like that.
• 32:59
  So probably was a year behind where he wanted to be or what
• 33:02
  they wanted him to be. But he's a true sophomore,
• 33:05
  right? Curtis?
• 33:07
  Is he a true sophomore or is he a red shirt freshman?
• 33:09
  Probably a red shirt freshman. I think he's a red shirt
• 33:12
  freshman. I'll, I'll check and look while
• 33:13
  Brian, it's a little bit more on Stevens and what you thought of
• 33:17
  him. Yeah, and I think he's a guy
• 33:19
  that came in, you know, recruited as a as a linebacker,
• 33:22
  kind of kind of made that, you know, transition to to D line
• 33:25
  there. I think he was kind of playing
• 33:28
  as a tweener when we were recruiting him.
• 33:30
  So we probably had an idea of we're going to start you here,
• 33:33
  but you probably go end up over there with JC's group and you
• 33:39
  know, he's somebody that's that you're looking at his bill, like
• 33:42
  Tally said, I mean, he's a guy that can go out there size wise
• 33:47
  and and and hang with folks. I mean, you know, 65 right
• 33:51
  around 250. You know that that's a good
• 33:54
  size. You know, he's probably still
• 33:56
  got some some growth potential there, you know, put on maybe
• 33:59
  another 10 lbs. You know, he can be a one of
• 34:02
  those big ends with with a little bit of a little bit of
• 34:04
  twitch. You know, I don't know if I'll
• 34:07
  I'd take him in a in a 40 yard dash, but he don't need to run
• 34:10
  40 yards playing defensive end. He can get her.
• 34:12
  He's he's got really good quickness, even if he doesn't
• 34:15
  necessarily have that top end 40 speed that you're looking for.
• 34:18
  So he's definitely going to be a guy to watch and I like, I like
• 34:22
  the future for him. Yep, and this is the honest
• 34:25
  truth right here. He has jumped some of the
• 34:27
  upperclassmen and the one thing I like about him, it's 65 is
• 34:31
  usually we see guys 65. If we ever get somebody that
• 34:34
  big, we always have to move them inside, right, because they
• 34:36
  don't have the bend. There were a couple plays in
• 34:40
  Tally. I feel like you mentioned this,
• 34:42
  you saw him, he got down a little bit and it's like, oh,
• 34:44
  that's, that's bend right there. Like that's, that's something
• 34:49
  that usually if you've got that bend, you're never going to play
• 34:52
  inside because there's only so many tackles that can deal with.
• 34:55
  And again, if he gets to that 26265 range and he puts it like
• 34:59
  you said, he's muscle, He is not fat, he is muscle.
• 35:05
  His progression could be really good.
• 35:07
  Go ahead. What you got?
• 35:07
  One more tally. Yeah, I was just going to say,
• 35:09
  Asian Stevens, if you listen to this show, I'm going to give you
• 35:12
  some game. Oh, boy.
• 35:13
  If you want to be a hokey legend, you ain't got to do much
• 35:16
  work. We want you to do some work, but
• 35:18
  you ain't got to do much work. Put a little cut on your nose
• 35:21
  and have some blood running out of your nose and put a Band-Aid
• 35:24
  on it. Hey, you good to go?
• 35:29
  Hulking nation loved them white boys with the bloody noses.
• 35:34
  Hey, it's real easy, man, Just just, you know, loosen that chin
• 35:37
  strap a little bit, take a good one to the to the nose with the
• 35:41
  face mask coming down on you. It'll bleed a little bit.
• 35:45
  So the Band-Aid on there, you all said.
• 35:46
  I think Tally done froze on us again.
• 35:48
  Unless he's just not moving. We'll see, we'll see.
• 35:51
  I think he froze on us again, but while he is frozen, I'm
• 35:55
  going to jump over. We've already talked about a
• 35:57
  stuff we because I don't think anybody was prepared for a non
• 36:00
  grind game. We've talked about things we got
• 36:02
  to do better moving forward. The two things that I want to
• 36:06
  see better moving forward but did go bad on Saturday.
• 36:08
  The first one was the defense on money downs when we were you
• 36:13
  back tally. I'm back all.
• 36:15
  Right, you're froze for a moment there.
• 36:17
  The. Defense on money downs were
• 36:19
  eight for 16. Now I know it was a handful of
• 36:22
  them that were later in the game when they were going for it, but
• 36:27
  it's one of those things I don't want that mentality right Y'all
• 36:31
  both played. I don't want that mentality of
• 36:33
  letting people get in, getting third down and making it a first
• 36:37
  down and getting the 4th and making it a first.
• 36:38
  So that was my that was one of my couple quarrels here on it.
• 36:44
  The second one was procedural penalties.
• 36:48
  Now I hate false starts offensively.
• 36:51
  I hate false starts. It drives me off.
• 36:54
  It literally drives me out of my mind.
• 36:56
  It's like literally there is a cadence.
• 37:01
  You know the cadence, you have practiced the cadence all week.
• 37:04
  Why are you moving? Don't be stupid.
• 37:08
  Defensively, I have never had a problem with it.
• 37:11
  Depending on the situation, it's third and 12:00.
• 37:14
  You want to try to get off the snap, that's fine.
• 37:17
  Or third and seven shorter don't matter.
• 37:19
  You've got those lineman thinking he is trying to time
• 37:23
  this up and if he times us up, we still got to get six or seven
• 37:26
  yards. We ain't going to get six or
• 37:28
  seven yards. Therefore, they're apprehensive
• 37:32
  and they might jump back at you. I don't know y'all see them, but
• 37:35
  I need to see those two things on defense and one on offense.
• 37:39
  Cleaned up the other piece of defense.
• 37:41
  Do that at the right situation. Go ahead and knock somebody down
• 37:44
  to say, oh, I'm coming and I'm going to get the snap count
• 37:47
  right to second time. Yeah, I mean to to me the money
• 37:50
  downs is, is frustrating. You know, we, we talk about all
• 37:55
  the time getting off the field is the most important thing for
• 37:58
  a defense. Get off the field, get the ball
• 38:00
  back to your offense. Complimentary football and it it
• 38:06
  wasn't AI. Don't think there was a ton here
• 38:08
  where you know, it was, it was a bad, you know, bad from a
• 38:13
  technique standpoint or anything like that.
• 38:15
  You know, we had a couple where we were there.
• 38:19
  God just made a play right quarterback scrambling real good
• 38:22
  on on 1/3 long where we were right there for the sack.
• 38:25
  Next thing you know, that turns into a first down moving the
• 38:28
  chains. It's frustrating, but it
• 38:31
  happens, right? You know, so I think the one
• 38:33
  it's the it's the ones that you can't avoid where where you're
• 38:36
  already in place there and you you miss a play that that's the
• 38:40
  ones that they get frustrating for you.
• 38:43
  To Curtis's point, I mean, procedural penalties are are
• 38:46
  going to be frustrating, especially on the offensive side
• 38:48
  of the ball or in those situational things for defenses
• 38:51
  where you either put them in a situation where they can now,
• 38:54
  you know, make a call, whether they want to go for it or, you
• 38:57
  know, continue with, you know, potential punt situation puts
• 39:02
  them in a situation where they have a little more options with
• 39:04
  their their play call or in a lot of cases, give them a first
• 39:09
  down. Like, you know, you got to be
• 39:11
  aware on that from a defensive standpoint, offensively, it's
• 39:15
  it's frustrating. You got to have mental
• 39:16
  toughness. You got to go out there and
• 39:19
  understand the situation, understand what you're dealing
• 39:23
  with and stay focused on the task at hand even when things
• 39:30
  get a little bit crazy. Outside of that, whether you
• 39:34
  know, we did, we weren't dealing with crowd noise.
• 39:36
  So that wasn't a factor. Only only factor was that guy
• 39:39
  across from you and you worried about him beating you.
• 39:42
  So keep on your mentals. Don't jump offsides.
• 39:49
  Ally you with us. Oh yeah, I'm here.
• 39:52
  Anything additional bad, anything you feel like we got to
• 39:55
  clean up because when you win 31 to 7 it's it's tough to find
• 39:57
  bad. Yeah, I mean, the only thing I
• 40:00
  guess don't again, this is nitpicking, you know, nothing
• 40:04
  super big, but on the 4th down, just get off the field like
• 40:10
  don't do not let them convert 1/4 down on us because if they
• 40:13
  don't convert that 4th down, which I know they have players
• 40:16
  that are there to make plays as well, but.
• 40:19
  On 4th downs, let's get them off the field.
• 40:21
  If they don't convert that 4th down, we probably, they probably
• 40:24
  don't score. We probably get a shit out.
• 40:26
  So just that and and kind of what you said Curtis too, if we
• 40:29
  don't jump off sides and I think we did it a couple times, I
• 40:32
  think we got away with jumping off sides one time.
• 40:34
  One time we. Did it?
• 40:35
  Yeah. You know, jumping off sides, if
• 40:37
  you don't jump outside, just go, you know, go and and push
• 40:41
  somebody down. Don't just let them say, Oh my
• 40:43
  gosh, she jumped off sides. It's a free play, you know what
• 40:46
  I'm saying? Like go hit somebody, chase the
• 40:48
  quarterback, make him throw it out of bounds, make him slide
• 40:50
  down, do something, you know, get them uncomfortable if you're
• 40:54
  going to already be penalized. So I guess that's the that's the
• 40:57
  only thing which we did that a couple times too.
• 40:59
  I think you know whoever jumped outside, maybe Peebles, you know
• 41:03
  he. Oh, he got right in it.
• 41:04
  He he got right in the quarterback's face.
• 41:05
  Yeah, he was. He was in there.
• 41:07
  So yeah, do that. I'm OK with that.
• 41:10
  Talk this shit, talk this shit. So again, as we wrap up, Tell
• 41:13
  the truth Tuesday of a 31 to seven win Hokies go to three and
• 41:17
  three on the season in in a bye week this week, y'all, we ain't
• 41:23
  got no game to talk about. So you know, as we move into the
• 41:28
  second-half, as everybody knows, we are brought to you by the
• 41:31
  Counts Family Pharmacy at three O 1 S Main St. in Blacksburg,
• 41:35
  your friendly neighborhood pharmacy.
• 41:38
  And tonight we do have a very special guest.
• 41:41
  And is he there? I don't see his face.
• 41:44
  I'm going to hold off a second. Someone who is frequently in our
• 41:52
  comments section during all of our live streams here.
• 41:58
  And he's also been a guest on the pot.
• 42:00
  He was back. He came to a doozy of a warning.
• 42:03
  He decided to make his debut on the state of the program last
• 42:06
  December. So I'm going to try to hold off
• 42:12
  on it because I won't see his face before we pull him in here.
• 42:17
  I just shot him a text message. All right, which we told him 40.
• 42:22
  I was at 42 when we started it. Yeah.
• 42:25
  So, Chris, if you don't mind, let you turn your camera on up.
• 42:33
  He's trying to get the camera on live streams here, baby.
• 42:37
  That's. It's it's, it's flickering.
• 42:41
  We will see what it would it do. We know it works because he's
• 42:48
  been here on before. Oh yeah, the beauty of Live
• 42:54
  podcast. And ladies and gentlemen, the
• 42:56
  beauty. Of live podcast and Tally says
• 42:58
  it's cold in Alabama. He's already got a stocking cap
• 43:01
  on. Too cold for him down.
• 43:03
  He's got a, he's got a prep, he's got to got to get his ears
• 43:05
  used to it. Getting ready man, and fall
• 43:09
  nights, you better be ready to roll.
• 43:11
  Oh yeah, we had baseball tonight and it felt that it today was
• 43:14
  that first crisp one in Virginia.
• 43:16
  There, there was a nip, there was a nip in the air, had the
• 43:19
  windows down during the day, had the windows open at night in the
• 43:21
  house with a little little fresh cool air in hey, they don't get
• 43:28
  much better than that. Yeah, my son had a game last
• 43:30
  night and it was, it was cold. I think I said it was cold, but
• 43:33
  it was cool like it was. People had people had blankets
• 43:36
  out, you know, I had a short song and I was like, yeah, I
• 43:40
  probably should have wore sweatpants.
• 43:41
  So if I'm thinking that like it was, it was cool.
• 43:44
  So. Absolutely up.
• 43:50
  He hopped off. He will be back, but.
• 43:53
  We got a good comment here. Oh, we go.
• 43:56
  That's. Going to be that's going to be
• 44:00
  cold. Oh man.
• 44:03
  While we can't be playing one of the further southern teams and
• 44:05
  not the northernmost team next week, we.
• 44:08
  We got, we got, we got Steven out there in in Cali.
• 44:13
  Oh, hold. On Oh my God.
• 44:17
  Jason owns on me. Oh, my God, I don't want to
• 44:21
  think about the. I'll tell you what, I'll feel a
• 44:25
  lot better than taking him than I did when they took Malik
• 44:29
  Willis, because I was not happy about that at all.
• 44:32
  I was like, man, no, this ain't gonna work.
• 44:35
  But then he comes back and beats us.
• 44:37
  You know, he goes to. What was he with the Steelers or
• 44:40
  whoever he's with? Nah, Green Bay.
• 44:42
  Green Bay. Excuse me, Went to Green Bay and
• 44:45
  comes in and beats us. I'm.
• 44:46
  Like, hey, he was at Green Bay and beat the Colts too, so.
• 44:50
  Yeah, I'm like, well, maybe it's us, maybe it ain't them.
• 44:55
  They've been getting a nurse, man.
• 44:57
  Lavar. There he is.
• 44:59
  I already shouted out Lavar one time tonight.
• 45:01
  I didn't see it. It might have been when my
• 45:03
  thing. Was not that I'm saying for
• 45:04
  earlier when I was talking about him hitting us up during the
• 45:07
  when the vanity game was in the first quarter?
• 45:10
  Remember, I got Mike issues occasionally, so we'll see how
• 45:13
  we got some more people come in. That's accurate.
• 45:19
  That's accurate. Yeah.
• 45:21
  Chris said he's restarting his phone.
• 45:22
  Give him 2 minutes. Yeah, give me a couple minutes
• 45:25
  here. We we got a lot of folks in
• 45:26
  here. And what about?
• 45:27
  Vamping, vamping. Let's do it.
• 45:29
  By the way, let's hit this one up.
• 45:31
  Where is the higher asking where's Shelton tonight?
• 45:34
  Shelton had to do a little travel for a little job
• 45:37
  interview today and he basically said I'm going to get back late.
• 45:40
  I'm going to be talking all day. I got a layout tonight which
• 45:44
  stinks because he he wanted to go off on special teams because
• 45:48
  apparently, per his notes, we are a top tier special teams.
• 45:53
  We just have a bunch of snafus. All right, and and here's what I
• 45:56
  would say to him if he were on here.
• 46:00
  What he's telling me is that we got a Parker Clement situation
• 46:03
  with our defense is that with our special teams.
• 46:07
  I mean, it's not that it's not always that it's bad, but when
• 46:10
  it's bad, it's bad if it stands out.
• 46:13
  And you know, you know, we, we got some big snafus here and
• 46:20
  there, but we also, you know, this this past week played a
• 46:23
  pretty clean game on special teams.
• 46:26
  Didn't have any multiple numbers out there that that helps when
• 46:30
  you change the number of your your field goal kicker.
• 46:33
  We just leave John Love at. 25 Man let John love what he
• 46:37
  wanted. Well, like love is my that's my
• 46:40
  God, man. What is he?
• 46:42
  Is he a junior? Oh, I think we got him for
• 46:46
  another year, maybe 2. I don't know.
• 46:50
  I. Think we got always there?
• 46:51
  No, no, the Sean print. This is perfect right here about
• 46:55
  Parker comments in the special teams unit.
• 47:01
  That's a good one. Sean.
• 47:02
  Got to write that one down. Hey, man.
• 47:06
  I like that. I like that.
• 47:08
  I do like this respect there. Yeah, you see what you see what
• 47:11
  you'll see it though. That's true.
• 47:14
  Get it in there. And yes, I mean, we, we had
• 47:18
  talked about that too because I was like, we got to get the
• 47:20
  special teams unit straight. He's like, yeah, it's somebody
• 47:22
  different every week, though. Yeah, like when I reprimand that
• 47:26
  person, he does fine, then it's somebody else, so.
• 47:30
  Sometimes it's a player making a mistake.
• 47:31
  Sometimes you're out there, you got a you got a coach making a
• 47:34
  questionable decision. Sometimes a coach make makes a
• 47:37
  questionable decision because your head coach didn't take a
• 47:39
  time out at one point. So it's.
• 47:40
  Like. Sometimes it compounds on
• 47:43
  itself. So it, it's, it's a lot of
• 47:44
  things that I think, you know, the, the coaches seem to have
• 47:47
  cleaned up from a game flows perspective this week that we,
• 47:51
  that we, you know, we, we saw some problems against Miami.
• 47:53
  We saw some, you know, additional problems earlier in
• 47:56
  the year with some of the bigger snafus.
• 47:58
  And, you know, I, I like seeing a pretty clean game and you
• 48:02
  know, it's, I know it doesn't stand out as much when it's not
• 48:05
  close. You know, those, those little
• 48:07
  small things get compounded when you're, when you're the one
• 48:10
  score game or when you down one score and all that stuff.
• 48:13
  So I'm just glad that we're not having to talk a whole lot about
• 48:16
  it. But our band is ready.
• 48:18
  Chris Lester's here, so we're going to bring him on here.
• 48:21
  Pull on Chris and real quick tally Chris.
• 48:25
  The phone got to working. Yeah, I turned around.
• 48:28
  I just did an update. I went to, I was 18, so I
• 48:32
  thought everything was fine. I had to cut the phone back off
• 48:35
  and do all that crazy stuff and I've been sitting here listening
• 48:38
  to y'all the whole time so. Blue Apple.
• 48:41
  By the way, do not know Chris Lester is the father of Brody
• 48:46
  Adams, true freshman down at Virginia Tech and friend of the
• 48:51
  pod. Long time friend of the pod.
• 48:53
  He, like I, we told him a little bit earlier, Chris, first time
• 48:56
  you ever joined us. You came to state of the program
• 49:00
  last December. That was your introduction here.
• 49:02
  Yeah, that was a fun night. Yeah, that was a good one that
• 49:06
  that's still got that tequila bottle sitting on my on my bar
• 49:09
  stand messing with y'all that night.
• 49:11
  So my wife looking at me like I was crazy.
• 49:13
  I said I was hanging out with my buddies.
• 49:15
  We was talking football. Yeah.
• 49:16
  And this is, this is the thing about Chris too.
• 49:19
  Most of the people, viewers who don't know Chris and haven't
• 49:23
  interacted with Chris, he's not just a, a parent cause some
• 49:26
  parents are so stupid. You know what I'm saying?
• 49:28
  Like I'm a parent and I'm bum. You know what I'm saying?
• 49:30
  When I'm talking about my kid, I'm looking at a, you know,
• 49:33
  parents are stupid. Like he's a student of the game.
• 49:36
  He studied the game. He's gone through the classes
• 49:39
  with his son while he's, you know, getting ready to go to
• 49:43
  college, to weight, picking up the weight, going and watching
• 49:47
  film. He does a lot of that stuff.
• 49:50
  So it's not just him being a dad, you know, it's him being a
• 49:54
  student of the game as well because his son hadn't been on
• 49:58
  the field this year yet. But he studies every single
• 50:01
  game. He's studying, you know,
• 50:04
  formations, different positions. So he is a really good person to
• 50:08
  talk to, especially with the wide receiver position.
• 50:11
  And guess what, His wife is better than him.
• 50:14
  Like I'll be on the phone with him.
• 50:16
  She she, yeah, she, she's getting better.
• 50:19
  She's not better than me, but she she's a lot better when she,
• 50:22
  when we first started doing this thing, but she's a lot better.
• 50:25
  And just for y'all, if y'all ever see my wife, do not ever
• 50:29
  call him Brody. If you ever call him Brody to
• 50:32
  her, she will choke you on Spotica.
• 50:34
  That's her baby. Her baby's name is Keelan.
• 50:37
  Now, the Brody thing, yeah, you call him Keelan.
• 50:40
  And honestly, everybody else calls him Brody.
• 50:46
  She calls him Keelan and the staff calls him Keelan.
• 50:49
  And you know, Brody's his nickname.
• 50:51
  But even when he made the hokey, a hokey stone of the week thing,
• 50:55
  she's like, his name ain't Brody.
• 50:57
  His name is Keelan. It's always like that.
• 51:00
  So it is how it is, man. It is how it is.
• 51:02
  But man, yeah, I've been, I'm a fan of all the y'all, man.
• 51:05
  You know, you guys in particular, you know, I listen
• 51:08
  to tales of the Terror Dome, you know, I listen BT4I listen to
• 51:12
  all of y'all. And I did that.
• 51:15
  Like y'all said, when I started, we were right in the process
• 51:18
  because I wanted to see where everybody what, you know, how
• 51:21
  they were going to handle everything.
• 51:22
  And y'all were just consistent, you know, and I love the way
• 51:26
  y'all talk ball. And then I was able to sneak in
• 51:29
  and hang out when nobody knew who I was and because I'm still
• 51:32
  just a guy, just like y'all. But it was, it was cool.
• 51:35
  It was real cool. Yeah, man, we, we loved having
• 51:39
  you on that first time. I mean, it was cool getting to
• 51:42
  see you in Nashville and I, I, I said it last time.
• 51:47
  I, I, I don't think everybody knows you a tall dude, You a big
• 51:50
  dude. I, I won't.
• 51:52
  I was like, oh, all right, Chris, what's up?
• 51:54
  How you doing? Well.
• 51:57
  I mean, Keela's nickname for me is Big Fella.
• 51:59
  It's always been Big Fella. And you know, I, I didn't, I
• 52:03
  wasn't gifted as most of my children, like keep, you know,
• 52:06
  Keela's amazing athlete. My 25 year old daughter Jana,
• 52:10
  she played volleyball. My youngest daughter played
• 52:13
  softball. I just was, I was a Rudy, to be
• 52:16
  honest with you. I was blessed with height and
• 52:17
  size, but I was more like a Rudy girl.
• 52:19
  I had to go work for mine. So I had to go work really,
• 52:22
  really hard. And that's what made me a
• 52:24
  student of everything that I played.
• 52:25
  If it was softball, I learned it.
• 52:27
  Basketball, I learned that football, I had to learn it.
• 52:30
  But yeah, man, I'm pretty big guy.
• 52:32
  I'm pretty big guy. Yeah, I was.
• 52:36
  Going to say Yost. That might be a no, but it's.
• 52:41
  Close though. It was I was I was not really
• 52:44
  paying attention to the height when I met Yost as more I was of
• 52:47
  the hands. Like Derpal?
• 52:50
  Yeah, you get. Me like.
• 52:52
  Yost looks like AWWE wrestler his body, don't it it it don't
• 52:58
  look real like his head on on his body don't look real.
• 53:02
  I'm like and and Yost ain't fat like some men like have bad
• 53:07
  bars. Like Yost is just big and white.
• 53:09
  Like he look like he can put on some pads right now and just go
• 53:12
  block. So.
• 53:13
  Yost is a big dude. Man, he's got that big show,
• 53:15
  Bill. Yeah, he dude Diesel.
• 53:19
  That's what Yost look like. Well, Chris, we appreciate you
• 53:23
  joining us. It is the bye week.
• 53:25
  The the first thing I think I got to ask, and I'll say this
• 53:28
  because if your wife's listening, I ain't taking a beat
• 53:30
  down from her. Are you going to get to see
• 53:32
  Keelan this week? I don't know if they're allowed
• 53:34
  to come home or or or are y'all going down there where you know,
• 53:37
  it's an off week and a little bit more relaxed for him or?
• 53:41
  For us, this is listen. For us, it's business because
• 53:46
  they're they're, you know, they're preparing.
• 53:48
  You know, everybody was like, oh, is he going to come home?
• 53:51
  We're we're big proponents of him not coming home.
• 53:54
  And I'm going to tell you why we're that way coming home.
• 53:58
  There's so many other distractions.
• 54:00
  And when you transcend, you know, these these guys, they
• 54:04
  have transcended where they're at.
• 54:07
  Y'all have heard me say this before.
• 54:08
  You know, everybody get to play high school ball, seven percent,
• 54:11
  7% get to go play Division One and then you're trying to go be
• 54:15
  the one of ones. And in his situation, he's right
• 54:17
  in the middle of the season, You know, we're we're pushing to go
• 54:21
  to we're marching to Charlotte, we're trying to get in the CFP.
• 54:24
  So, and for him, it's like learning how to be a great
• 54:29
  student athlete as well as be a Division One ball player.
• 54:33
  And we've been like, Nah, you know, we, we, you know, we see
• 54:37
  him enough. You know, when we go see him on
• 54:39
  the weekends, his Mama brings him food, she cooks for him.
• 54:44
  He asks herself, she brings it. I mean, I'm like, you know, I
• 54:47
  just be happy to get some macaroni and cheese or some 80
• 54:50
  wings or something. So we're not going to go see
• 54:52
  him, man. We'll, we'll, we'll see him next
• 54:54
  week. We'll go down early Wednesday
• 54:56
  night, Wednesday, Thursday to see him and go to the most
• 54:59
  anticipated game I've wanted to go to since I started this whole
• 55:03
  entire thing. Thursday night in lane circle it
• 55:08
  is it it it hits different and The funny thing is I missed my
• 55:13
  chance to go on with Thursday Brian, did you make it to one
• 55:17
  Thursday and I. I made it to one Thursday.
• 55:19
  And I know Tally's first game ever in Lane Stadium was a
• 55:22
  Thursday night against Miami, so.
• 55:24
  Yeah, it was crazy. It is.
• 55:26
  Like no other man. So let me ask this, and I know
• 55:31
  we got a bunch of questions, but you know, Keelan enrolled early.
• 55:36
  Yes. And and we talked about that and
• 55:40
  it was a lot of and it was a lot of you I can remember in
• 55:42
  December and yes, I know I was drunk and I was having a good
• 55:44
  time. But we talked about, but you
• 55:47
  were like, it is a lot of preparation to get ready to do.
• 55:49
  This is a big step, you know, because we always kind of say
• 55:51
  it. He should be, he should have
• 55:55
  been like having fun getting ready for prom.
• 55:57
  He's about to take this monumental step.
• 55:59
  How did that go like drop off and everything?
• 56:02
  We know how much you trust this staff.
• 56:05
  But when you were if I'll say this as you and I don't know
• 56:09
  exactly where he's staying, but as you started pulling out of
• 56:11
  Blacksburg, going 460 back to the beach, it was just like, was
• 56:15
  it that moment in your head, man?
• 56:18
  He is becoming a man. For for us it it was I had to
• 56:25
  build up to that. Like he laughs that he picks at
• 56:27
  me. So he's like he said, I know
• 56:29
  you're going to cry when you get in the car.
• 56:31
  I said, yeah, I'm a cry when I get in the car.
• 56:33
  Because you got to realize for me and Keelan, this process, my
• 56:37
  wife was in nursing school from his junior to his junior,
• 56:42
  sophomore, junior year. So we did a lot of this
• 56:46
  together, me and him, our relationship, our bond grew.
• 56:49
  And so we were like together all the time.
• 56:51
  So, you know, I was like lost because I was like, I, what am I
• 56:55
  going to do now? Because I ain't got nobody to
• 56:56
  drop off in practice. I ain't got nowhere to be.
• 56:59
  I'm like, you know, I got to work, I got to come home and I
• 57:02
  got used to being back at home. But the thing that I wanted most
• 57:05
  for him is you had to go to work and you had to grow up right
• 57:11
  here and learn everything. There's no longer I'm the, you
• 57:15
  know, I'm the big, the big guy on campus.
• 57:17
  I'm the coolest dude in the room.
• 57:19
  You're going against, you're going to go be one of one.
• 57:21
  So it was tough for him, you know, and nobody will know.
• 57:27
  Yo, he lost his grandmother doing spring ball and that was
• 57:32
  huge for him. So imagine you go away from you,
• 57:35
  you, you go, you get out of school on on the you go to
• 57:40
  school, you go through Christmas, you get out of school
• 57:42
  on Friday, right? You pack up your whole life,
• 57:46
  which it took us forever as you see his room here that I've made
• 57:49
  it to my makeshift studio. We packed them up, we took him.
• 57:54
  We drive them up. You drive them on a Friday and
• 57:55
  come to Monday, Tuesday morning. You run around with dudes is
• 58:00
  2018, 1921 years old and you got to compete.
• 58:03
  So that was huge for him. And so I had great trust in the,
• 58:10
  in the, in the process. I love the staff, but I knew he
• 58:14
  was going to go through his bumps and his bruises with it.
• 58:16
  And, and he did, you know, he did, he, he was like, I'll tell
• 58:23
  you say I don't, I don't like this Hunger Games stuff.
• 58:26
  You know, I, I play football. I said football is about
• 58:29
  competing. And so the beautiful part about
• 58:31
  the process for us was every day he would go through and then we
• 58:35
  would talk every day. We talked every day like he
• 58:39
  would get done with practice. And now I talked to him before
• 58:41
  he ate. So I asked my classes ago my ass
• 58:43
  and how he ate and I watched him start to get it.
• 58:48
  And then he had to have a couple of wins.
• 58:50
  And so he had a couple of wins at certain times.
• 58:52
  And as he got more wins, he started understanding, becoming
• 58:56
  more confident. And so by the by the time he
• 58:59
  went from spring to summer and he got into his groove and then
• 59:04
  he just went and had a great fall camp, that's what he did.
• 59:08
  That's awesome. I love hearing that.
• 59:09
  I love hearing like, you know, when you first get in there, I
• 59:12
  remember as a freshman, like, yeah, you know, you're a guy,
• 59:15
  you're like, you know, you're a team captain.
• 59:17
  You're doing all this in high school.
• 59:18
  And then you get, you get even like, yeah, I played D3.
• 59:20
  But like getting there, I was like, all right, this is a, this
• 59:22
  is a different brand of football.
• 59:24
  All these guys did the stuff I did in high school.
• 59:28
  So. Right, right.
• 59:29
  That adjustment is definitely really important.
• 59:31
  Sometimes it it it takes a little longer than you want to
• 59:35
  if if you don't get the start you want to.
• 59:36
  But let me ask you this, you know, you talked about talking
• 59:41
  to him every day. Was there somebody whether you
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  know, staff, whether player, whether anybody else at Virginia
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  Tech that that he leaned on there in Blacksburg during kind
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  of that transition period? Like, the thing about it is that
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  the the 10 guys that went in with him.
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  So you got Josh Clark, Gray Johnson, you know the chance
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  Wiggins, you know. You had all those guys, they all
• 1:00:04
  went in together and then, you know, Tyler Mason, although they
• 1:00:08
  were together so they bonded with each other.
• 1:00:10
  But Keelan is a really, really quiet dude and you know, was
• 1:00:15
  like the staff, like Carrie Lynn helped him, you know, these
• 1:00:19
  helped him. And they all just, you know,
• 1:00:22
  they walked him through and he was going to and he's not a
• 1:00:24
  very, he's not a very vocal person.
• 1:00:27
  Like he's not a rah rah guy. So I'll tell you real quick.
• 1:00:30
  So one time Coach Mines called me and he was like, yo man, I
• 1:00:35
  don't know if he's getting it. I said, listen, he's not going
• 1:00:38
  to be a real responsive, OK, I got it.
• 1:00:40
  You'll tell him, he'll nod yes and then he'll go do it.
• 1:00:44
  He said. And he's getting it.
• 1:00:47
  He's just, he's not going to be that kid.
• 1:00:50
  So that was one of the things. So they, they walked him through
• 1:00:53
  it. You know, Cam Cam Phillips
• 1:00:55
  helped him a lot. So the spring, they're doing the
• 1:00:59
  spring and he's going through practice and he had one
• 1:01:05
  Thursday, he Friday, he called me, he was irritated, like I
• 1:01:08
  can't believe this. I said, what's wrong?
• 1:01:09
  I said, man, I had 12 missed assignments, man, I had 12.
• 1:01:13
  I said, well, what happened? So I couldn't remember the
• 1:01:16
  difference between slider and slide.
• 1:01:19
  And so I had to figure out. And so we had to learn a new
• 1:01:22
  signal. So in high school it was just
• 1:01:24
  hey, do this. He knew it, he'd go to it.
• 1:01:27
  Now he had to read the slide certain things.
• 1:01:30
  So we had 12 missed assignments. So I said, well, and so me
• 1:01:35
  wanting to fix everything I'm like, well, who you think can
• 1:01:38
  help you? He was like, I don't know.
• 1:01:39
  I said, well, can't you talk to minds?
• 1:01:42
  He said minds minds is doing this all the other because now
• 1:01:45
  minds is an assistant head coach.
• 1:01:46
  So he turns around and says, hey, I say coach Phillips is
• 1:01:49
  there talk to Cam. So I reach out to coach minds.
• 1:01:53
  Minds gives me Cams number. I say, hey Cam, what's going on?
• 1:01:56
  We you know, and we start talking back and forth.
• 1:01:59
  I said reach out to coach, coach, coach Phillips.
• 1:02:02
  So he coach wrote calls to Cam. So he comes back like that
• 1:02:05
  Saturday. I got a champ because it's never
• 1:02:08
  like Dad. It's like there's always big
• 1:02:09
  fella champ, he said. I got a champ, I got all the
• 1:02:12
  signals down. I went from there.
• 1:02:14
  He went from that point, man, I think he had three missed
• 1:02:17
  assignments from that point on. It's just like he wants to be
• 1:02:21
  the thing about it. He understands assignment man.
• 1:02:23
  He wants to be great. He wants to be really good and
• 1:02:25
  he's willing to work hard at it. And when he he can't get
• 1:02:28
  something, he gets frustrated. And so usually I'm there to try
• 1:02:32
  to help him. I said, but you got to go reach
• 1:02:34
  out and talk to other people to learn and that Cam really helped
• 1:02:37
  him out a lot. So I attribute a lot to his
• 1:02:40
  success to that And and just the whole staff man, you know, cheat
• 1:02:45
  cheaters on him. Coach prelude on them.
• 1:02:47
  They, you know, they want him to be successful, man, and they
• 1:02:50
  going to push him to be great. And that was the biggest thing
• 1:02:52
  for you know, my favorite got one of my favorite coaches there
• 1:02:55
  and he's really behind the scenes and a lot, a lot of
• 1:02:57
  people don't talk to him is coach Brooks.
• 1:02:59
  Coach Brooks will coach Brooks is the funniest guy and he's
• 1:03:03
  going to push your right in a certain kind of way.
• 1:03:05
  So it it's it's the whole staff helps man.
• 1:03:08
  There's not a kid on that, on that team that doesn't have
• 1:03:10
  someone to look to, to help them progress and get where they're
• 1:03:13
  trying to get to. Definitely.
• 1:03:16
  Well, the question I ask kind of or not really a question just
• 1:03:19
  telling you to kind of take us through you being a, you know, a
• 1:03:24
  fan of the team and A and a parent of a player.
• 1:03:28
  How does your game day look like?
• 1:03:30
  Because I know you went to a couple of games.
• 1:03:32
  Have you seen some losses? You seen some wins?
• 1:03:34
  Kind of how does that go? You know, getting up, going,
• 1:03:37
  staying overnight, How what, how busy are you?
• 1:03:40
  How much of your, your, your player do you get to see?
• 1:03:43
  How does that go? Well, because, and I think I've
• 1:03:48
  learned this and I think I'm going to pass this on to anybody
• 1:03:51
  else that's coming along. I'm definitely telling to my,
• 1:03:54
  you know, my young green run guys, their parents.
• 1:03:56
  I try to tell them and it's hard because you know, you come off
• 1:04:00
  like you're a know it all, but I'm like, no, I'm just telling
• 1:04:02
  you what I've experienced. So my biggest thing, I was like,
• 1:04:06
  oh, well, we can just come up that day.
• 1:04:08
  It ain't no big deal. You know, it ain't that hard.
• 1:04:10
  We can do it man, Jesus age Christ.
• 1:04:15
  I will. Not ever.
• 1:04:16
  I'm telling you, come next year, I will be in town every week the
• 1:04:21
  night before because it is such a busy day.
• 1:04:25
  Because for us coming in and we live 4 1/2 hours away and my
• 1:04:31
  wife will not ever miss a hokey walk.
• 1:04:34
  She will not miss seeing her baby, touching her baby, then
• 1:04:38
  her hug her baby. That's that.
• 1:04:40
  The end of the day, that's that. So so our day usually starts.
• 1:04:45
  Nashville was cool, but then again we had Lake Nashville
• 1:04:48
  because I didn't get to hang out with y'all all day like I wanted
• 1:04:50
  to. And my wife is hard on me
• 1:04:52
  because she acts like she this is her speech before we leave.
• 1:04:55
  Don't get up here, act like you ain't got a whole relationship,
• 1:04:58
  a wife and a family. Don't get up here with your
• 1:05:01
  little hokey buddies and act like you all know who I am and
• 1:05:04
  I'm like I understand. So I'll get up there.
• 1:05:07
  Me and James Clark are real close.
• 1:05:08
  Josh Clark's dad, Jerrod Johnson hit.
• 1:05:11
  We're cool. I know the fish and I know
• 1:05:13
  everybody. I, you know, like Chantelle
• 1:05:16
  Lovett knows everybody. I'm right beneath her because I
• 1:05:20
  try to meet. Everybody I.
• 1:05:22
  Mean, I try to meet everybody. Yeah, I met the people's I've
• 1:05:25
  met. Oh my God, Caleb Woodson's mom.
• 1:05:28
  I met everybody because I'm a fan of everybody.
• 1:05:31
  Shoot, I even met John Love's family.
• 1:05:33
  I was even, I was hyped to meet them.
• 1:05:35
  You. Know yeah, keep them happy.
• 1:05:37
  Yeah, he got. He got a little brother we need
• 1:05:40
  to. OK.
• 1:05:41
  But yeah, I'm gonna start, hit them up.
• 1:05:43
  But so you start my day will start like for game day.
• 1:05:46
  If we're coming up on Saturday, I'm out the door about 4:30.
• 1:05:51
  I'm on the road, cars already gas.
• 1:05:53
  If I come up, then we'll get here like 93010 o'clock.
• 1:05:56
  So depending on what time it is, we'll go, you know, go to our
• 1:05:58
  tailgating spot. We won't even go to the to our
• 1:06:01
  room because we're already coming in off the road already,
• 1:06:04
  you know, doing that thing. We'll probably in Starbucks,
• 1:06:06
  brush our teeth, do our thing and we at the game, then we
• 1:06:09
  going tailgate. Then we come down, we go do the
• 1:06:12
  hokey walk. And then after you do your hokey
• 1:06:14
  walk, man, you, you Dang into the game.
• 1:06:17
  And above all, with this team, I'm I'm an avid football fan.
• 1:06:21
  So my wife always says be quiet. But it's hard for me because I
• 1:06:27
  love the game so much and I'm watching certain things.
• 1:06:30
  And so when things don't go our way, I'm just as crazy as the
• 1:06:33
  next guy. I just try to keep it.
• 1:06:35
  I try to keep it contained because I can't be too crazy
• 1:06:38
  because my kids on the sideline and I've had to fight with that
• 1:06:41
  since he's been playing ball. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:06:44
  You know, I'm, I'm, I'm like, you know, a perfect example.
• 1:06:47
  When we played Rutgers, I was like, I was yelling at the refs
• 1:06:51
  and everything. My wife was like, you can't do
• 1:06:53
  that, I said, but you can see it.
• 1:06:55
  Yeah, but you can't do that, you know, when you know she said.
• 1:07:00
  Yes, You. Can you're in the stands, you're
• 1:07:02
  a fan, you can do whatever you want.
• 1:07:04
  No, I really can't because at the end of the day, the people
• 1:07:08
  is like, yo, who's whose parent is that?
• 1:07:11
  And then I got to deal with that.
• 1:07:14
  That's about rest of my hokey parents said had I been to
• 1:07:16
  Miami, I probably went to jail, which I probably would have.
• 1:07:21
  I probably would have went. But yeah, that's that's the day.
• 1:07:24
  And then once you finish with that, the game is over.
• 1:07:27
  So then you want to see him. And then we're like, so when we
• 1:07:32
  saw when they played Marshall, we turned around, we let him go
• 1:07:34
  home, get dressed. We went to PK's, got something
• 1:07:37
  to eat, saw him just we just want to see our kid, you know,
• 1:07:42
  because he's not, you know, to everyone and to he's a football
• 1:07:45
  player, he's an athlete, he's gifted.
• 1:07:47
  But he's still the kid that didn't clean up his room and I
• 1:07:50
  had to tell him to take out the garbage.
• 1:07:51
  You know, that that's that's who he is still.
• 1:07:53
  Come here for a second. Yeah.
• 1:07:55
  And and we go from there. So when we did that, then we'll
• 1:08:00
  come home, we'll hang out and like when you're recruiting, the
• 1:08:04
  coaches are all there. So I know all the coaches.
• 1:08:06
  But then during the during the season, though, you'll see him
• 1:08:09
  and then we'll go home, fall asleep, get up in the morning,
• 1:08:12
  go see him before you got to go to work, because I see you go to
• 1:08:14
  work, you know. Hey, what time you got to go to
• 1:08:15
  work? Oh, I got to be, I got to be at
• 1:08:17
  the facility at 11:30, twelve O clock.
• 1:08:18
  All right, cool. We'll come by and see you.
• 1:08:21
  Come by and see him in the room. Make sure he has what he needs.
• 1:08:24
  Ask him. He didn't do anything.
• 1:08:26
  You know, I'll buy him food, you know, even though he, you know,
• 1:08:28
  he got to cover dollars. You can buy food.
• 1:08:30
  I said, you know when I used to tell, whenever you get some
• 1:08:32
  money, you know, think about you think about the big fella.
• 1:08:35
  He laughs and and then, man, I hug.
• 1:08:37
  We hug our kid. And then I man, we get back on
• 1:08:39
  the road, man. And we, you know.
• 1:08:41
  Try to give you next week. And we plan, Yeah, do it next
• 1:08:44
  week. Yep.
• 1:08:46
  I think for him, I think the biggest thing for him this year,
• 1:08:50
  this is the most he's ever sat on the bench in his life.
• 1:08:52
  So this has been the most challenging thing for him.
• 1:08:54
  That's been hard. For him.
• 1:08:55
  So we'll I'll go into something a little bit about that here
• 1:09:00
  next, just because you brought that up because we have so many
• 1:09:03
  and we kind of talked about it. I think we may have talked about
• 1:09:05
  it in space, We may have talked about it on here as well.
• 1:09:09
  We have so many. Talents, me and you have talked
• 1:09:11
  about it time to time again, but go ahead.
• 1:09:13
  Yeah, yeah. So we have so many, you know,
• 1:09:16
  talented young players that are on the bench right now, you know
• 1:09:19
  what I'm saying? And it it is.
• 1:09:21
  So to be a coach, it's so hard to balance.
• 1:09:25
  Like when do I put this young player in over my experienced
• 1:09:28
  player? Or we brought this player back,
• 1:09:30
  you know, and all we talked about all offseason was we got
• 1:09:33
  20 return starters out of 22. But then now I have a kid like
• 1:09:38
  Aiden Green that I can't keep off the field.
• 1:09:40
  I have a kid like Caleb Woodson that I can't keep keep off the
• 1:09:44
  field. It's it, I don't even want to
• 1:09:47
  say like, you know, how does that feel?
• 1:09:50
  But you just seeing it from sitting in your position, being
• 1:09:53
  a fan, but also being a fan, being a parent of a student
• 1:09:56
  athlete on the team. And you see somebody like AAG
• 1:10:00
  get in the game and you like, OK, they can't keep him off the
• 1:10:03
  field. Like does it ever pop in your
• 1:10:05
  head Like sooner or later that's going to be my kid, you know
• 1:10:09
  what I'm saying? Sooner or later, that or that
• 1:10:12
  position, that play, if he was there, that's his play.
• 1:10:17
  You know what I'm saying? How did how do you feel like
• 1:10:19
  when you're watching the game and you see those little aha
• 1:10:22
  moments, I guess you would say? I think for me, so so me you've
• 1:10:31
  talked about this, so let me see if I can phrase it the best way.
• 1:10:35
  We're a third year and and if anybody's listen to me, be on
• 1:10:39
  y'all be in in the comments or ever heard me.
• 1:10:42
  I understand this is a build. This is not a rebuild.
• 1:10:44
  That's a build. So you had to go get certain
• 1:10:47
  pieces and get certain guys and they came in and they were, they
• 1:10:53
  had the experience and some of them have reached their ceiling.
• 1:10:58
  Some of them have room to grow. The thing about it was they had
• 1:11:01
  to be here so that you can bring in your 23, your 24 and your 25
• 1:11:06
  class, right? Because they, they had to see
• 1:11:10
  that they were growing and building something.
• 1:11:12
  You know you because you couldn't have, you know, when,
• 1:11:15
  when they went, when they won three games, you know, the kid
• 1:11:19
  was like, yo, they suck, man. I don't know if I want to go
• 1:11:22
  there, man, you know? And I got.
• 1:11:24
  Ohio State talking to me, I got Penn State.
• 1:11:26
  I don't know if I want to go there.
• 1:11:28
  So then it has to go to the point of doing the homework and
• 1:11:30
  and seeing it. But then the next year when they
• 1:11:33
  go, when we're starting to get, everybody's in there and
• 1:11:36
  everybody's making plays. And so for him to come and see,
• 1:11:39
  OK, I'll just go for his room. So for you to go into a room and
• 1:11:44
  have over 15 to 16 years of college experience there for you
• 1:11:51
  to glean from, it's amazing because my kid can become my kid
• 1:11:57
  can glean from a know it all, know every position, savvy route
• 1:12:02
  runner guy and a Steven Gosnell. He can get the physical tenacity
• 1:12:08
  of of a Daquan Felton, He can get the charismatic shifty
• 1:12:13
  podium podium guru but also a very skilled close range hands
• 1:12:18
  receiver and the Ollie Jennings. He can be and get get the love
• 1:12:22
  and understand how to be a professional like a Jay Lane in
• 1:12:26
  one year. Where on God's creation can you
• 1:12:29
  go and get that and glean that much experience in a year and a
• 1:12:33
  nothing, nothing is asked of you but to learn the playbook, go to
• 1:12:38
  class and make good grades and come and practice your practice,
• 1:12:41
  your ass off. It's the greatest situation in
• 1:12:43
  the world for him. So it started to click for him
• 1:12:48
  in the spring, in the, in the fall camp where I was getting,
• 1:12:52
  you know, certain I was getting calls from people.
• 1:12:55
  I was getting people say, hey, he's starting to get, he's
• 1:12:57
  starting to get it. And he, you know, he's
• 1:12:58
  progressing, He's doing this, he's doing that.
• 1:13:00
  And then, you know, he would call me.
• 1:13:01
  He said, yeah, I haven't made a mistake in forever.
• 1:13:05
  You know, I know everything. So now it's to the point where
• 1:13:08
  he learns. And if you know, we all
• 1:13:10
  listening, it's wide receiver. You're going to be AXX is where
• 1:13:14
  Kwan plays, you'll be AZ where Ali Jennings plays, you'll be AF
• 1:13:19
  where Jay Lane plays. So now he's like, hey, I'm
• 1:13:22
  proficient in the ZI know everything from the ZI know the
• 1:13:25
  F because I have to know as the Z what the F doesn't do.
• 1:13:28
  I'm starting to learn the X. And that's why if you look as a
• 1:13:32
  fan, if you go back and look at the snaps, who's the guy that
• 1:13:36
  never comes off the field? Y'all tell me?
• 1:13:39
  Stephen Gosnell. Never comes off the field.
• 1:13:42
  Stephen Gosnell, You'll see Stephen Gosnell go in there and
• 1:13:44
  pointing somebody, tell them to go there because he knows
• 1:13:46
  everything. So if you want to go into the
• 1:13:48
  next level, you know, and that's all these guys desire, you have
• 1:13:53
  to know everything. And being in a room like that
• 1:13:57
  with those guys, but then also having a Cam Phillips all, you
• 1:14:01
  know, one of the all time leading receivers in the history
• 1:14:04
  of hokey football there and then having Fontelle mines there to
• 1:14:08
  help him and he he's he's doing nothing but soaking it all in.
• 1:14:12
  I know you want to play, but I think when he does play, you'll
• 1:14:16
  have that. And then you just have just a
• 1:14:19
  just a tenacious, you know, just just a guy that brews confidence
• 1:14:23
  in Aiden Green. You know, it's, it's just a
• 1:14:25
  great spot for him. Yeah.
• 1:14:28
  And with Aiden, it's one of those things is Aiden was
• 1:14:30
  probably in a similar to Keelan last year, learning, growing.
• 1:14:35
  And it's already like, boom, It's almost like that.
• 1:14:38
  You look and say, if I do what he did, I'm going to be on the
• 1:14:42
  field doing that next year. I'm going to be catching the
• 1:14:44
  football touch touchdown against Miami and things like that.
• 1:14:50
  I want to ask this, I wanted to catch it before, but Tally got a
• 1:14:53
  deep question. And it is PK's your spot down in
• 1:14:56
  Blacksburger. Do y'all have some?
• 1:14:57
  Other food spots, Well, no, see, here's the problem because we
• 1:15:00
  come in on game day. My wife is like, let's explore.
• 1:15:03
  Let's just go and just explore Blacksburg and just go enjoy it.
• 1:15:07
  So that's what that's what we so P KS is one of the spots we go
• 1:15:10
  to. It's a it's a breakfast spot and
• 1:15:14
  I think it's another egg. I think it's some egg beat
• 1:15:18
  Bistro type thing we go to when we come there.
• 1:15:21
  But most of the time, man, honestly, you're so tired from
• 1:15:23
  that road, man, you just want to come in, get something to eat,
• 1:15:27
  go to sleep because you know, you know, I haven't hit the
• 1:15:29
  lottery. You know, I and if I did, y'all
• 1:15:31
  be rich with me. So I got to come back and go get
• 1:15:34
  after it, you know, the following week.
• 1:15:36
  Yeah. So you got to hit what you can
• 1:15:38
  get. I get what I take care of your
• 1:15:40
  business. Get back to it.
• 1:15:42
  And get back to it, man. Get back to it.
• 1:15:44
  Yeah, that's it. So we we talked about, you know,
• 1:15:48
  some of the, you know, what, what Keela's dealing with.
• 1:15:50
  I mean, but we also know that that you've been, you know, a a
• 1:15:54
  feature player and you know, some of the spaces tally is, is
• 1:15:57
  open up there, you know, talking about some of the early season
• 1:16:00
  struggles. When you were looking at those,
• 1:16:04
  what kind of thoughts were coming into your head and kind
• 1:16:06
  of, you know, did you see the vision and, and, and do we start
• 1:16:10
  to see this team start to put it together as we kind of get into
• 1:16:13
  October now? I mean, I heard y'all early.
• 1:16:16
  I heard y'all tonight and what I what I had to liken it to so
• 1:16:20
  people can understand is when you guys first started doing
• 1:16:23
  podcasts, y'all were like, we have a vision of what we want to
• 1:16:27
  do. We want to be good at it.
• 1:16:29
  And you kept doing it. You kept doing it.
• 1:16:31
  And then you start getting other people on and bringing things
• 1:16:34
  in. And even when y'all have
• 1:16:36
  difficulties, y'all be OK. He's out, he freezes, I can go
• 1:16:39
  get him. And so y'all had to learn how to
• 1:16:42
  be a great podcast, right? Here's the one.
• 1:16:45
  Here's the one thing about it. This is a football team that has
• 1:16:47
  to learn how to be a great football team.
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  And Coach Pride alluded to that. Even with y'all in the
• 1:16:53
  beginning, you know, if y'all listen to me say we ain't did
• 1:16:55
  shit yet, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:16:57
  All this expectation is out here.
• 1:16:59
  We got all these guys back, but we hadn't done anything yet.
• 1:17:02
  So I think they had to continue to learn how to win.
• 1:17:05
  And I think what what all of them fought with coming in was,
• 1:17:09
  Oh yeah, everybody says we're this good, so we're just this
• 1:17:12
  good. So we just roll our helmet out
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  or we're Virginia Tech and they know we good at returning and
• 1:17:18
  that, you know, they said they should bow down to us.
• 1:17:20
  And now they started, you know, to learn how to do certain
• 1:17:23
  things and how to win. I truly believe what you guys
• 1:17:26
  said. Karen had to get back to being
• 1:17:28
  what Karen does. Well, I think he came on the
• 1:17:32
  Y'all Show. I remember him saying, yeah, we
• 1:17:34
  all came back because we want to go to the league.
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  That's that was it. So he was already I'm in April,
• 1:17:40
  even though it was it was, you know, January and February,
• 1:17:44
  right. And so with that and then going
• 1:17:47
  and hanging out with, you know, with Cam and and and with Shidur
• 1:17:50
  and practice with those guys, we all got to the point like, yeah,
• 1:17:53
  he should come right back in and boom, be that guy.
• 1:17:56
  But we all forgot he had only had ten starts as a, as a
• 1:18:00
  college, as a Division One college quarterback.
• 1:18:02
  So we looked at him to be where those guys are AT and they've
• 1:18:05
  got 2436 starts underneath their belt.
• 1:18:09
  And I think he tried to do certain things.
• 1:18:11
  But going back to your question, I mean to go off track, but I
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  just saw them learning how to win.
• 1:18:17
  And I, and I told Talley this. I said, you know, they, they got
• 1:18:20
  punched in the mouth, they tasted their own blood.
• 1:18:23
  They liked it and they could be able to handle it.
• 1:18:25
  And that's what I that's what I saw against Rutgers, even
• 1:18:28
  though, even though everybody was pissed about Rutgers, I was
• 1:18:30
  like, yeah, this team, this team is they're coming together.
• 1:18:34
  And so I wasn't, I wasn't shocked what they did in Miami.
• 1:18:39
  I was, I wouldn't went to jail because I was shocked out of ref
• 1:18:42
  was out there, you know, trying to give it up.
• 1:18:45
  But I wasn't shocked with Miami. I knew they could do great
• 1:18:48
  things. I just think, I think some of
• 1:18:50
  the younger guys you can't take off the field.
• 1:18:52
  Some of the younger guys are just that talented on the
• 1:18:55
  defensive side. Some of the, you know, the
• 1:18:58
  younger guys on offense who haven't had a chance to play,
• 1:19:01
  you know, you got to realize who they are.
• 1:19:03
  Yeah, I think too. And I think we've said it on
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  here and you clearly have watched a lot, Brian and Tally
• 1:19:09
  playing is there's some guys who just do not practice.
• 1:19:12
  Well, they don't whatever reason.
• 1:19:14
  I know a lot of times you hear guys say it's up here like I
• 1:19:17
  can't go full bore and practice. And I think sometimes I wish the
• 1:19:22
  coaching staff would just roll the dice on a couple guys
• 1:19:24
  because you feel like I see his physical presence.
• 1:19:27
  I think if you turned him out there and it wasn't orange and
• 1:19:30
  maroon on that other helmet, he would go shine.
• 1:19:34
  And, and I know they have to make decisions because they're
• 1:19:37
  getting paid a lot of money. And if a guy's not practicing,
• 1:19:39
  well, it's really tough to stake your job to say, oh, I'm going
• 1:19:43
  to play him because. You got to trust him.
• 1:19:45
  Exactly. You got to trust him, right?
• 1:19:47
  You got to trust him. So but, but I also, but I also
• 1:19:50
  think that it's, that's not about trusting him, but it's all
• 1:19:55
  he some of guys are just they're fit to do certain things.
• 1:19:59
  OK, so I'll give, I'll give you one of my personal favorites.
• 1:20:05
  Quinton Reddish is a favorite for me.
• 1:20:07
  One because he's from Charlotte and because I'm from Charlotte
• 1:20:11
  and I knew the house high school we played at and I always loved
• 1:20:15
  him. So Q Reddish was always one of
• 1:20:17
  my favorites. And when Q was going through
• 1:20:20
  camp and everything, he was like.
• 1:20:22
  Because him and Kia roommates, he was like, man, I I can't,
• 1:20:25
  they're just on me. And I had to.
• 1:20:27
  I would hit them and tell them they're on you because you're
• 1:20:30
  the future. You fit.
• 1:20:32
  You have you have the frame and the body of a free safety.
• 1:20:37
  You have it. So you just got to go through
• 1:20:39
  your bumps and bruises. So some guys just when they got
• 1:20:42
  on the field and we all saw it, you're like, Oh my God, this
• 1:20:44
  guy's that. So when Caleb Woodson gets on
• 1:20:47
  the field, they're like, how the heck do you not play Caleb
• 1:20:49
  Woodson? Because you got to Sam Brunfield
• 1:20:51
  that you brought in through the portal.
• 1:20:52
  Who has more experience? And so you got to give this
• 1:20:55
  staff so much credit that they know what they have in the
• 1:20:59
  background, but they want to bring somebody in to keep them
• 1:21:02
  and mold them and shape them so they can be ready.
• 1:21:05
  Let's go back. Derek Canteen comes in last
• 1:21:07
  year, right? Derek Canteen comes in and as a
• 1:21:11
  hokey, we wouldn't say he did a lot of things, but what he did,
• 1:21:15
  he helped mature Dorian. He got Monsieur to learn how to
• 1:21:19
  play, practice a certain kind of way.
• 1:21:21
  He could fill in in certain spots.
• 1:21:22
  So now you see Monsieur and and and Dorian and those guys going
• 1:21:28
  to go play Minion Sundays because they had a guy to bring
• 1:21:30
  them along. So we're looking at Caleb
• 1:21:33
  Woodson this year and being around the Sam Brunfield, he's
• 1:21:37
  been able to influence him. He's able to influence a Gabe, a
• 1:21:40
  Gabe Williams. He's able to influence some of
• 1:21:42
  those those guys. So I think it's the what the
• 1:21:44
  staff is doing. You know, everybody said, you
• 1:21:47
  know, the number one hit they made in the Porter this year was
• 1:21:50
  was Caleb Spencer. I don't think that.
• 1:21:52
  I think every guy that they brought in has been a home run
• 1:21:57
  because he's helped mature a younger guy behind them that may
• 1:22:00
  be better long term than the person they brought in.
• 1:22:04
  Y'all catch? So he they're they're they're
• 1:22:07
  just some of those guys are that and this is as far as they're
• 1:22:10
  going to go, but some of these other kids that they're bringing
• 1:22:12
  in are going to be better than them and have a chance to go do
• 1:22:15
  that. And that's what I see.
• 1:22:17
  Yeah, you talk about Reddish and I mean, you talked about how he
• 1:22:20
  was, you know, hearing from the coaches and stuff like that.
• 1:22:23
  If you're a young guy, you want that attention from the coaches
• 1:22:26
  because if they're paying that much attention to you as a young
• 1:22:29
  guy, they really care about what you can do.
• 1:22:32
  They do. But you've been.
• 1:22:34
  But imagine Brian is Brian. You've been great.
• 1:22:37
  Everywhere you've been, you've been amazing.
• 1:22:39
  You've been head and shoulders better than everybody.
• 1:22:41
  And every time you think you can't do nothing right, you see?
• 1:22:45
  I get it. I get it.
• 1:22:47
  So, so, yeah, we understand that.
• 1:22:48
  Yeah. As as guys who wish, you know,
• 1:22:50
  somebody, you know. Oh, yeah.
• 1:22:52
  We, we take it now, but as a young kid, man, it's tough.
• 1:22:55
  But he is, he's weathered that and he's, he's playing, he's
• 1:22:58
  playing really good ball right now.
• 1:22:59
  And I'm proud. I'm so proud of Qi.
• 1:23:01
  Don't know what to do with myself.
• 1:23:03
  It's just in that the thing that of course you don't want to just
• 1:23:09
  rack your brain about what could have been and this and that.
• 1:23:12
  But I just think about some of the people that I've seen play
• 1:23:16
  against Miami, some of the people I've seen play against
• 1:23:18
  Stanford, if they had played against Vanderbilt, I feel like
• 1:23:23
  it'll be a different. Game I think.
• 1:23:25
  You, I feel like, I feel like we see a different game.
• 1:23:28
  I I think because you don't get a preseason in college football
• 1:23:34
  because you don't, you only get to practice against yourself.
• 1:23:36
  You don't know that. And that's why you know, these
• 1:23:40
  first, these first three or four games, you're trying to figure
• 1:23:43
  out who does what. Like we were all going crazy.
• 1:23:46
  Like, yo, man, why they keep switching the linebackers, Yo,
• 1:23:48
  why will keep this person here? And you had to figure it out.
• 1:23:51
  And so, man, my hat's off to Coach Marv, man, because he had
• 1:23:55
  to figure out, OK, I can play him here or I can play him here,
• 1:23:58
  OK, just a traditional guy. I can play Sam, but against a
• 1:24:02
  more mobile, fluid guy. I got to play Caleb.
• 1:24:04
  OK, Caleb, I got to, you know, I got to bring in Keller, you
• 1:24:07
  know, hey, listen, how am I going to use Lawson?
• 1:24:09
  So, you know, just on that side, even with the online and you
• 1:24:13
  know, that's a that's a conversation we had to have
• 1:24:16
  somewhere, you know, for lemonade somewhere.
• 1:24:18
  But I understand the depth situation.
• 1:24:20
  But you know, you got to, you know, you got to elate them.
• 1:24:23
  You know, you don't know what he can do.
• 1:24:25
  You put them in because you're like, he's a talented guy.
• 1:24:28
  He's top, top recruit. He's got to get in and play.
• 1:24:31
  But right now and him being hurt, but it's good that you can
• 1:24:35
  fall back on a Bob Schick that understands, Hey, I got to get
• 1:24:38
  better. But but what Bob has to
• 1:24:40
  understand also, Brodie Meadows can play.
• 1:24:43
  Brody Meadows is a dog. Johnny Garrett is an awesome
• 1:24:46
  kid. And so and so and as many times
• 1:24:49
  as we people like, yo, this guy needs to go.
• 1:24:52
  Well, you don't have the depth to do it.
• 1:24:53
  That's why for me, you know, the guy who's who's just had to put,
• 1:24:59
  had to do so much work and man, you know, turn, you know,
• 1:25:02
  chicken, chicken, you know, Yeah, the chicken salad.
• 1:25:06
  It's Coach Crook, man, Coach Crooked.
• 1:25:08
  Coach Crook to me has one of the hardest jobs because he's to the
• 1:25:12
  point he hasn't even had a chance to really get his guys in
• 1:25:14
  and all his guys are in the weight room right now.
• 1:25:17
  All his guys are with deeds. All his guys are getting
• 1:25:20
  technically sound and he's trying to make this thing work
• 1:25:23
  and he's making it work. So, you know, I just I just see
• 1:25:26
  number better things down the road and with these four games
• 1:25:30
  or down down the stretch, you're going to get to see some of
• 1:25:32
  those guys. We've been wanting to see that,
• 1:25:34
  you know, the the Davidsons, the the Aiden Lynches, you know, the
• 1:25:37
  Brody, you're going to get to see those guys.
• 1:25:39
  Grant gets healthy. You're going to be able to see
• 1:25:41
  those guys and I think they're going to help us get where we're
• 1:25:42
  trying to get. To But Chris, I'm going to make
• 1:25:44
  a point about Crooks and we've said it here and you've heard us
• 1:25:47
  say it and you've kind of agreed a few times.
• 1:25:49
  The two guys who have had the most time with Ron Crook is
• 1:25:53
  Xavier Chaplin and Braylon Moore.
• 1:25:56
  And say what you want to say, that's the two best guys on the
• 1:25:59
  line right now. X is playing unbelievable and
• 1:26:03
  Braylon Moore to go from left guard to now primarily playing
• 1:26:07
  center has played awesome to be a second year starter.
• 1:26:13
  He is a red shirt sophomore and he asked to switch positions.
• 1:26:18
  I mean, listen, this staff, you know, no matter how much we try
• 1:26:23
  to bang on them for their being, you know, inexperienced in
• 1:26:26
  certain areas are really, really good coaches.
• 1:26:29
  And they've coached a lot of football, a lot of different
• 1:26:31
  places. So, you know, with Coach Crook
• 1:26:35
  really being on the job 18 months now, right, You're 18
• 1:26:41
  months, 18 months, you know, like when he got the job, it's
• 1:26:46
  spring ball, you know, so he he's trying to hustle and go out
• 1:26:50
  and recruit and talk to kids to get his guys in.
• 1:26:52
  And then he's just trying to take the guys He's got to grow.
• 1:26:55
  So yeah, Brett, you know, be more red shirts saw he's going
• 1:26:59
  to be he's going to be awesome. You know, I, I just think X is
• 1:27:03
  going to be X is going to be a Sunday, a Sunday guy, you know,
• 1:27:08
  and, and his big and his toughness, you know, his, his
• 1:27:12
  tech is him being technical. He's just going to continue to
• 1:27:14
  get better. So, you know, they got some
• 1:27:18
  other pieces. Like I said, I love Brady
• 1:27:19
  Meadows, I love Johnny Garrett. You know that they got, they got
• 1:27:24
  a lot of guys, man, back there that are going to be, you know,
• 1:27:27
  going to be very, very vital. They're going to be they're
• 1:27:31
  they're going to get you to love.
• 1:27:32
  They're going to they'll never get you to forget Chris and
• 1:27:35
  Darisol, because you can't. You'll never forget, you know,
• 1:27:38
  tell her you'll you'll you'll love Brock Hoffman, tough guy.
• 1:27:41
  Yeah, there's. Wayne.
• 1:27:42
  Brown yeah, Wayne Brown Now see some some of those guys are just
• 1:27:46
  legendary. But those guys are going to be
• 1:27:47
  solid and they're going to help us get back to where they're
• 1:27:50
  going to help us get to where we're trying to get to.
• 1:27:53
  All right, so as we get near the end of the conversation here,
• 1:27:56
  first of all, Chris, do you want to hang with us and make some
• 1:27:59
  picks in a little few minutes here?
• 1:28:00
  Oh. Yeah, I can do that, yeah.
• 1:28:02
  I was hoping. You'd say, yeah, I can always
• 1:28:04
  get out here still online, you know, I ain't got no problem
• 1:28:06
  with that. You know what?
• 1:28:08
  I'm saying, who's going like? This You won't make the graphic,
• 1:28:10
  but we'll get you on record. You will get the pick first.
• 1:28:13
  No straight up Chris though. We got six games left by week
• 1:28:16
  this week. Thursday night in Lane Boston
• 1:28:18
  College, I got 2. I got 2 questions and different
• 1:28:22
  ways taken. The first one is what game are
• 1:28:26
  you looking forward to the most between now and Thanksgiving
• 1:28:30
  weekend? And then what game is the one?
• 1:28:37
  I want to put this right. What's the sneaky one?
• 1:28:39
  What's the one is you watch football like we got to be
• 1:28:42
  careful here. OK, the game that I am most
• 1:28:47
  looking forward to because I'm selfish is Syracuse.
• 1:28:52
  OK all. Right, because that's Dad gum
• 1:29:00
  it. Yeah, that'll be the chance of
• 1:29:03
  my kid. My kid gets a play and, you
• 1:29:09
  know, that's what I'm excited about.
• 1:29:11
  I, I, I, you know, I'm, I'm so happy for him and so proud of
• 1:29:14
  him as a young man and for him to have the opportunity that,
• 1:29:17
  you know, to go fulfill his dream of going to play Division
• 1:29:21
  One football, to actually go being on a snap at Division One
• 1:29:25
  level. Hey, man, you know, like I said,
• 1:29:29
  I cry a lot, but I'm, I'm going, I'm going to be emotional that
• 1:29:32
  day. I was emotional at the spring
• 1:29:34
  game when the first time I saw him run out.
• 1:29:36
  I'm emotional every time he comes out of here in the Sandman
• 1:29:38
  through the tunnel. And I'll definitely be emotional
• 1:29:41
  that day. So Syracuse is the game that I'm
• 1:29:43
  looking forward to. So I'm looking forward to that.
• 1:29:46
  And then ask for a team for the team, you know, I'm just looking
• 1:29:54
  at the next one because everything is laid out perfect
• 1:29:59
  for us as a program. We have the third easiest
• 1:30:02
  schedule, I think down the backstretch to get to Charlotte.
• 1:30:07
  I'm just telling you how, how how confident I already got my
• 1:30:10
  room for Charlotte. I booked my room for Charlotte
• 1:30:13
  in August because that's how how good I think this football team
• 1:30:16
  is going to be. And I think now coming to the
• 1:30:18
  backstretch where you got Boston College is about to walk into
• 1:30:21
  something. They have no idea what they're
• 1:30:23
  going to walk into because now they know who they are.
• 1:30:26
  You know what I'm saying? It's OK.
• 1:30:27
  I'm going to give you all the reference.
• 1:30:29
  Tally will understand this. Brian.
• 1:30:31
  Y'all might not get this. Brian Curtis, you won't get
• 1:30:34
  this. So there's this movie called The
• 1:30:36
  Last Dragon, right? Right.
• 1:30:38
  And so this guy name was Bruce Leroy, right?
• 1:30:41
  So he's fighting this together. The villain is showing up,
• 1:30:43
  right? So showing up is whooping his
• 1:30:45
  ass, right? And he's dugging his head in the
• 1:30:47
  water. He's like, who's the master?
• 1:30:50
  Keep pulling his head up. And so then once Bruce Lee
• 1:30:52
  realized who the mass is in, he raises up right out the ward.
• 1:30:56
  He says I am and he just I am. And that's what this football
• 1:31:00
  team is. They don't get their ass
• 1:31:02
  whooped. They felt like, and then they
• 1:31:03
  started remembering, Yo, I am that I am that team.
• 1:31:07
  We are those dudes. We are we are that squad.
• 1:31:10
  So I don't think I don't think Boston College has any idea of
• 1:31:14
  it. And and y'all listen in it.
• 1:31:15
  Y'all go back and look Bruce Leroy in the final fight, you
• 1:31:17
  understand? What I'm saying so you so Chris,
• 1:31:19
  you saying they got the. They got the glow, baby.
• 1:31:21
  They got the glow, man. They got the glow.
• 1:31:23
  Man, y'all got to go watch that movie.
• 1:31:25
  That's one of my favorite movies, man.
• 1:31:26
  Yeah, man. The Last Dragon.
• 1:31:29
  The Last Dragon, they got the glow, man.
• 1:31:31
  I think they're going to come out Thursday night in that
• 1:31:33
  building, that electricity. And the way this fan base is
• 1:31:37
  this, it's going to be a movie. It's going to be a movie.
• 1:31:39
  Like I couldn't have imagined us being six and O coming in a
• 1:31:44
  Thursday night. I probably would have had to
• 1:31:46
  come to Blacksburg on a Tuesday because we probably wouldn't be
• 1:31:48
  able to get in. But then being three and three
• 1:31:51
  and being where they're at, I think the Boston College game is
• 1:31:53
  going to be huge, and that's how I feel.
• 1:31:58
  Yeah, we, we've been looking at it too.
• 1:31:59
  I've been, I've been talking to some of the some of the BC guys
• 1:32:03
  and they went from from beating their chest after that FSU game
• 1:32:07
  and feeling really good about this to not feeling so hot about
• 1:32:10
  it. Yeah, they, they, they got, they
• 1:32:12
  going to walk. I mean, they going to remember a
• 1:32:14
  lot of these guys that we beat, we beat them, we beat them in
• 1:32:17
  their own building like that, like they stole something.
• 1:32:19
  Toot remembers that them jokes didn't even want to speak to him
• 1:32:22
  because he was supposed to either go go there or he came
• 1:32:25
  here. So I just think they're I think
• 1:32:27
  they're going to be a lot. They're going to be really a
• 1:32:30
  really tough, tough out from here on in.
• 1:32:32
  Syracuse is going to be tough. I think, you know, changing of
• 1:32:37
  the guard. Like like coach said, you know,
• 1:32:39
  we were Clemson before Clemson and and I think he has to get
• 1:32:43
  his signature win for me for this fan base to really buy into
• 1:32:47
  him. You know, he has to get a
• 1:32:50
  signature win. And that could like Miami would
• 1:32:54
  have been his signature win and then it would have been like it.
• 1:32:56
  But he needs his mouth. He needs his signature win that
• 1:32:59
  launches him. You know, coach Beamer had his
• 1:33:02
  the 95 Miami game. That's the one that launched
• 1:33:04
  him. I think this beating Clemson in
• 1:33:07
  lane launches him to the next place.
• 1:33:10
  You know, and I think that I don't think we lose the game.
• 1:33:15
  Honestly, man, I don't think we lose another game this year
• 1:33:18
  until we go, you know, we go, we go deal in the I I just, I just
• 1:33:23
  believe we get to the I think we get to Charlotte and and we let
• 1:33:27
  the chips fall when we may I I I want to.
• 1:33:29
  See a little rematch there with the.
• 1:33:30
  Oh, because listen, I just want, I just, I just want, I just want
• 1:33:34
  them to have to turn around and say, OK, we're not going to
• 1:33:37
  we're only going to put two ACC teams in and it's going to be
• 1:33:42
  the two playing the championship and then watch everybody else go
• 1:33:44
  crazy. That's what I want to see.
• 1:33:46
  That's what I want to see. I want to see I, I love Bettman,
• 1:33:49
  I love chaos, I love mayhem. And I think that's what would
• 1:33:52
  happen if we go do what I expect us to do, go win the ACC all.
• 1:33:58
  Right. Love to hear that.
• 1:33:59
  Tally, Brian, y'all got anything else?
• 1:34:01
  Chris? You've been awesome, dude.
• 1:34:02
  It's. It's man.
• 1:34:03
  I appreciate y'all, man. I appreciate y'all man.
• 1:34:06
  If. We can get Chris not to be a
• 1:34:08
  Cowboys fan, man. He might be hey.
• 1:34:10
  Hey, listen man, listen bro, some relationships you can't
• 1:34:14
  walk away with man. I put my, I put my, I put my
• 1:34:17
  Rouge on, I put my lip sync on. I fixed my wig and I tell him
• 1:34:21
  she loved me and, and I deal with I have been in that
• 1:34:25
  relationship. I have been in that relationship
• 1:34:28
  since 1977. And I, you know, I just can't
• 1:34:31
  let her go. I just can't man.
• 1:34:33
  Yeah, still turn it back now. No, I'm done bro.
• 1:34:36
  I'm done. You know, I'm done, God willing.
• 1:34:39
  The only time I'm going to love another team is a God.
• 1:34:41
  God blesses my kid and he goes play plays at the next level.
• 1:34:44
  And then that will be my favorite team along with the
• 1:34:46
  Hoagies because I'm going to be a hoagie for life.
• 1:34:50
  All righty here. That's it.
• 1:34:51
  Yep. Well, Chris, thanks for just
• 1:34:53
  giving us all the insight, sharing your stories, your time,
• 1:34:57
  your emotions. And I am hoping me and I am
• 1:35:03
  trying to get to Georgia Tech. I'm trying.
• 1:35:05
  OK, I mean, I'll. Get your number from tally.
• 1:35:08
  Yeah. Man if I am.
• 1:35:10
  You you get to you get here when it and man, if you're in
• 1:35:12
  Blacksburg, I'll be in Blacksburg.
• 1:35:14
  It it was it was tough because we are I was planning to go to
• 1:35:19
  Miami, but I ended up getting a new position.
• 1:35:20
  So I ended up having to back out and not go to Miami.
• 1:35:24
  And then I was never going to Stanford.
• 1:35:25
  I was never going. I wasn't doing that because the
• 1:35:28
  back your back like that because Oh yeah, because I figured with
• 1:35:34
  I'm just thinking down the road, I know we're going to have to
• 1:35:37
  travel a lot next year. So I said, OK, let's let's
• 1:35:39
  figure this out. But you.
• 1:35:40
  Got You got three years of traveling.
• 1:35:42
  You got three years of traveling.
• 1:35:43
  I got three more years of. Traveling three more years of.
• 1:35:45
  Travel. Three more years of traveling.
• 1:35:46
  Yeah, yeah. God willing.
• 1:35:48
  God willing, three more years. All righty, so Chris is going to
• 1:35:52
  hang out with us because as y'all know every week, well
• 1:35:55
  actually Chris, we've seen you put your predictions on here
• 1:35:57
  before so you going to keep rolling with us.
• 1:36:00
  We do big screeners, we pick some of the biggest or to us the
• 1:36:04
  most intriguing or sometimes just the ones that we think you
• 1:36:08
  know what that's a good gambling line.
• 1:36:10
  We going to take this and we going to make a bet on it every
• 1:36:13
  week we do it and as usual we do have a certain order here.
• 1:36:17
  So Brian is leading us off with his game and then we'll let
• 1:36:20
  Chris pick and then we'll throw all our picks up here first
• 1:36:23
  game. Yeah, man, we had we had
• 1:36:25
  back-to-back screw jobs. So I had I had to pick the
• 1:36:28
  latest screw job on the Miami in here, get Cal against Pit.
• 1:36:32
  Pit looking a little a little good there.
• 1:36:35
  They got a little juice here compared to what we thought they
• 1:36:38
  would have. So, you know, look at this as
• 1:36:42
  line. It's a, you know, Pit's a
• 1:36:43
  three-point favorite there at home.
• 1:36:45
  Yeah, I'm going to take Cal here.
• 1:36:47
  I think Cal's going to win that one out, right?
• 1:36:48
  I like what I saw, what they put together against Miami before
• 1:36:51
  they kind of collapse late. They played pretty well so far
• 1:36:55
  throughout the season. Odd is him.
• 1:36:58
  So let's see what they can do out there against Pitt.
• 1:37:00
  All right, I'm going to let I'm going to let our guests go next
• 1:37:03
  here. Chris Pitts laying three points.
• 1:37:05
  You going with the Panthers or you taking the second team that
• 1:37:08
  got screwed by the ACC? This.
• 1:37:09
  Year I'm I'm taking the more physical team.
• 1:37:13
  I like Cal. I do like Cal's game.
• 1:37:17
  Pitt has been you know, Pitt has been sneaky though, and they've
• 1:37:20
  got some really, really good players.
• 1:37:21
  I like their wide receiver core. You know, even though I don't
• 1:37:25
  like Narduzzi so much as a person, as many as many people
• 1:37:30
  are feel that way. You know, being a young, being a
• 1:37:34
  Youngstown guy and everything, because that's for my wife and
• 1:37:37
  and Kila them from but I I I like Cal, I like Cal
• 1:37:39
  physicality, but I I think that loss.
• 1:37:43
  I don't I don't know how they're going to.
• 1:37:45
  I don't know if they're going to have the fortitude to say we
• 1:37:49
  were up by 25, we got screwed, or we going to keep looking back
• 1:37:53
  at that. So but I'm I'm going to take Cal
• 1:37:55
  and come across country and knock pit off because I need pit
• 1:37:58
  to get knocked off. So yeah, I'll, I'll take Cal.
• 1:38:01
  All right, and I'm I'm with I'm with you on this and with you
• 1:38:05
  and Brown and give me Cal. I think they have a bounce back
• 1:38:07
  game. That's good.
• 1:38:09
  Mendoza's good. Not until the fourth quarter
• 1:38:12
  when a lot of screwy shit started happening, did they not
• 1:38:15
  have Miami. So yeah, three points.
• 1:38:19
  Give me the points when I like the team outright.
• 1:38:21
  Sheldon, who's not in here tonight, He is getting back from
• 1:38:24
  his travel. Also going Cal Cal wagon tally
• 1:38:28
  tally. I'm going Cal as well, and it's
• 1:38:31
  just because I need Pitt not to be undefeated.
• 1:38:34
  A pit is too close to our footprint.
• 1:38:36
  I need them to lose some games. I don't need them coming in here
• 1:38:39
  sliding and trying to get no kids or talking about how good
• 1:38:43
  they're doing. So somebody need to beat the
• 1:38:44
  shit out of them. I'm hoping this kind of there.
• 1:38:47
  We go. Got you.
• 1:38:49
  All right, All right. I'm Ryan.
• 1:38:51
  Kyle as well, and the Music Man is the only one.
• 1:38:54
  On the pit man, of course. Pit Pit of.
• 1:38:57
  Course. He's getting called out here.
• 1:39:02
  He's getting called out. He's in bed now.
• 1:39:04
  I think he he old I The game I am selecting this week is one of
• 1:39:11
  the all time favorite rivalry games.
• 1:39:13
  Oklahoma, Texas, The Red River Shootout.
• 1:39:17
  It ain't no rivalry. It is the Red River Shootout at
• 1:39:20
  the State Fair in Dallas, TX. A place one day I hope to go at
• 1:39:25
  the Cotton Bowl because it is such a cool setting.
• 1:39:28
  Texas is laying 14 1/2 points. I'm going to let our guests go
• 1:39:34
  first. That is a lot of points to lay.
• 1:39:37
  You've seen this game a lot. I know you're probably like,
• 1:39:39
  you're like all of us. It's certain games.
• 1:39:42
  Unless the Hokies are playing, it's like I'm going to watch
• 1:39:44
  this one. Oh, man, I'm, I'm a, I'm a big
• 1:39:49
  First off with just a big football heads up.
• 1:39:51
  But 14 1/2 points, listen, I don't care what it is.
• 1:39:55
  You're not going to give. Oh, that, that is way too many
• 1:39:58
  points. But I'm, I know this sounds
• 1:40:02
  crazy. I'm going to take Oklahoma.
• 1:40:04
  That's just too many points to give them.
• 1:40:06
  I don't think it's going to be a blowout.
• 1:40:08
  I think Oklahoma's going to stand up and that 14 points is
• 1:40:12
  too many. Now I think Texas will win the
• 1:40:14
  game. But gosh, I'm betting I'm taking
• 1:40:17
  OU. I'm taking them to those 14
• 1:40:19
  points, so I'm going to take Oklahoma in this one.
• 1:40:23
  Yeah, ride with Chris there. If it was a maybe 10 and a hook,
• 1:40:28
  I might I might pull the trigger on Texas 14 and a hook is way
• 1:40:32
  too damn many points. So give me Oklahoma here.
• 1:40:35
  Yeah, I'm, I'm with you all on this as well. 14 a half is way
• 1:40:40
  too much delay. I've already seen Oklahoma's
• 1:40:42
  defense slow down Tennessee one time.
• 1:40:46
  I do not think Texas's defense is near as good as Tennessee's.
• 1:40:50
  I don't think they can. I think it's going to be one of
• 1:40:53
  those memorable ones. I think it's going to be like a
• 1:40:55
  touchdown game and I'm not sure. I have not read it.
• 1:40:59
  First of all, I'm going to do this real quick.
• 1:41:01
  He's still here. He ain't asleep yet.
• 1:41:04
  It's the school night, Jason, go to bed.
• 1:41:06
  He can't he, he's enjoying watching and listening to us too
• 1:41:09
  much. But it's it's just, it's just
• 1:41:11
  too many points. Too many.
• 1:41:14
  Too many he's taking, he's saying it ain't that's.
• 1:41:24
  Yeah, I'm man, it was a hard game to pick for me because I
• 1:41:28
  actually did watch the Oklahoma Auburn game and Auburn's not.
• 1:41:32
  The quarterback situation is not very good.
• 1:41:34
  It's the reason they lost to Oklahoma.
• 1:41:36
  So I could see it being 14 points.
• 1:41:39
  But the hook is what got me. You know, I think the Texas is
• 1:41:42
  the better team, but that 14 1/2 always scares me.
• 1:41:46
  So I took Oklahoma in that. Miranda.
• 1:41:51
  Miranda's riding with Texas Sheldon Miranda hey, Jason rode
• 1:41:55
  with us This time, though, he took.
• 1:41:57
  A time all. Righty.
• 1:42:00
  Sheldon's game this week is he is got the Penn State.
• 1:42:03
  It's some good games this week. I mean, it's it's wow, this is
• 1:42:07
  this is like the next two weekends.
• 1:42:09
  I am really glad we got the bye this week and I'm really glad
• 1:42:11
  we're playing Thursday night as a college football.
• 1:42:14
  Fan. He has got Penn State, USC, this
• 1:42:17
  is out of the Coliseum USCA 5 1/2 point home dog Chris, who
• 1:42:27
  you rolling with here? I'm going to take Penn State in
• 1:42:30
  this one man Drew Aller man is really starting to progress,
• 1:42:34
  become who he needs to be the two running backs there and
• 1:42:39
  y'all know because well, just you know, you got #10 you got
• 1:42:46
  what's Nick, what's it Nicholas, what's it?
• 1:42:48
  I forget. I just know my guy's 13 Tatron,
• 1:42:51
  we call him fat man here in the 757.
• 1:42:54
  He's a 757 kid. He trains with Keelan.
• 1:42:57
  So I'm going to run with Penn State.
• 1:42:58
  I think Allen's, it'll be fine. They're trying to make the tight
• 1:43:02
  end there like, you know, the greatest thing since sliced
• 1:43:05
  bread because he can do so many different things.
• 1:43:07
  And I think, I think Penn State goes out there and get their
• 1:43:10
  signature win. Coach Franklin needs this one.
• 1:43:12
  He needs to go out there, keep this ball rolling because he's
• 1:43:16
  trying to be in the group of 12. So I got Penn State, Penn.
• 1:43:20
  State. Yep.
• 1:43:21
  I like Penn State here as well. You know, USUSC has looked good
• 1:43:26
  at times where they haven't like super impressed me.
• 1:43:28
  I think Penn State is putting together a pretty good season.
• 1:43:32
  They've got, you know, guys kind of at a lot of different places
• 1:43:35
  can give a lot of different teams problems.
• 1:43:37
  So I think it's going to be Penn State here.
• 1:43:41
  All right, I'm, I'm, I'm going the opposite of y'all, Penn
• 1:43:44
  State don't know how to play outside of Southern California
• 1:43:47
  or outside of Las Vegas, where it's nice and warm.
• 1:43:50
  If this was in Happy Valley, I'd be willing to lay 10, but with
• 1:43:54
  five and a half too much to lay. I do think Penn State's going to
• 1:43:58
  win this game, but I think it's going to be a unbelievable
• 1:44:02
  offensive showcase. Wow, 5 1/2, just too much to lay
• 1:44:08
  be OK with three or three and a half.
• 1:44:10
  I think it's like a touchdown. It's like a like a 3-4 point
• 1:44:14
  win. It's it's just going to be
• 1:44:15
  close. OK.
• 1:44:18
  Sheldon's riding with you, Curtis.
• 1:44:21
  I am not riding with Curtis and I think Penn State in this game.
• 1:44:28
  I've picked Southern Cal a couple of times and I've watched
• 1:44:31
  them just a little bit. Like I said, one of my friends
• 1:44:35
  from here, son, plays on Southern Cows defense.
• 1:44:39
  So I watched him a couple times, and I just think Penn State's
• 1:44:42
  the better team and I think they'll win by, you know, 7 to
• 1:44:46
  12 points in this game. All right, Miranda's riding with
• 1:44:51
  Curtis and Sheldon and Jason's riding with the rest of us.
• 1:44:54
  Here OK. Now now before we jump to
• 1:44:57
  Tally's game here, I do want to just bring up last week, last
• 1:45:02
  week Brian four and two Sheldon four and two Tally breaking 503
• 1:45:07
  and 3 Brandon Jason to two and four and I was five and one but
• 1:45:11
  y'all say that I was at 5:00 and.
• 1:45:13
  One with your chest. Curtis, I was saying here's for
• 1:45:18
  land like you know, Yeah, I'm, I'm the big boss of the Bible.
• 1:45:22
  Right now if if you have been riding with myself, Jason, Cali
• 1:45:28
  or Brian, we would have made you some money so far this year.
• 1:45:32
  OK, we ain't all wrong battling all of us slightly over 50%.
• 1:45:38
  That's what's up. Cali.
• 1:45:39
  You got a big one, man, You got. Yeah, man, this is going to be I
• 1:45:42
  think this is going to be a a good game.
• 1:45:45
  You got Ohio State versus Oregon.
• 1:45:48
  I don't know, man, Ohio State's while receiving calls just off
• 1:45:53
  the chains every year is they they'll send some people to the
• 1:45:56
  NFL and then they'll pull some people from another NFL.
• 1:45:59
  I don't know where they get these kids from, but you know,
• 1:46:02
  it's Oregon's always a solid team.
• 1:46:04
  They're going to come out with some crazy jerseys on.
• 1:46:07
  I think this is going to be a very entertaining game, but I'm
• 1:46:11
  going to take Ohio State in this game because I don't know, I
• 1:46:14
  just feel like Ohio State, they're receiving Corp just
• 1:46:18
  impressed with them. Chris, what about you man?
• 1:46:22
  Big 1730 on on Saturday night. Oh, that's good.
• 1:46:26
  I'll be, I'll be in for that one.
• 1:46:28
  Listen, I'm going to go with Ohio State on this.
• 1:46:31
  Like Tally said about about the wide receiver corps.
• 1:46:33
  Yeah, you turned around, you've got a guy.
• 1:46:36
  I think I said I did say that to Tally.
• 1:46:38
  So we were talking about Jeremiah Smith.
• 1:46:41
  So Jeremiah Smith is the number one player in the 2024 class,
• 1:46:45
  not number one wide receiver, the absolute number one player.
• 1:46:49
  And so I, you know, I had to watch all that transpired.
• 1:46:53
  The kid is he's amazing. He's really, really good.
• 1:46:56
  Like he's tough. But you got to Mecca Bouique and
• 1:46:59
  Mecca Bouique was the number one wide receiver in the 20, I think
• 1:47:03
  the 20, the 2021 class, he was the number one guy.
• 1:47:08
  There was another guy that was in his class too, Marvin
• 1:47:11
  Harrison Junior who plays in the NFL.
• 1:47:13
  So that's how that's they go get them, man.
• 1:47:16
  They they're going to go get the number one kid, Brian Hart.
• 1:47:19
  Coach Hardline is amazing up there and they got the guys
• 1:47:23
  there, they got him. They got Trevor Henderson,
• 1:47:26
  another 757 kid. And then you turn around, you
• 1:47:29
  got Junkins who was down in Ole Miss, Man, that's going to be
• 1:47:33
  great. And I think that's just going to
• 1:47:35
  be the pressure that's on coach day this year.
• 1:47:38
  That's got to be his. That's going to be his.
• 1:47:40
  I'm that I'm that school. Like I think they'll beating
• 1:47:43
  Michigan that he has to do for the program.
• 1:47:47
  He's going to go out there and beat Oregon to say I'm the best
• 1:47:49
  team in the country because he's probably going to face that
• 1:47:51
  other team down in Austin to win the whole thing.
• 1:47:53
  And if you don't win it this year, he in trouble.
• 1:47:56
  So I got Ohio State. Yeah, I, I, I like all of that,
• 1:48:02
  but it's something about going to the Austin Zoo, man, it hits
• 1:48:08
  different. I think that the the fans are
• 1:48:10
  going to impact that game. I think Oregon's a damn solid
• 1:48:14
  team. They've they've got some some
• 1:48:16
  dudes out there that can make some plays.
• 1:48:18
  I think they do just enough. You know, I, I, I could see
• 1:48:23
  Oregon maybe winning this out right, But I think it comes down
• 1:48:26
  to a field goal late. So give me Oregon.
• 1:48:28
  That's gonna be dope. I love the Austin zoo.
• 1:48:34
  The Austin zoo is one of those places.
• 1:48:36
  It's it's it it's you know, in a lot like lane stadium.
• 1:48:40
  It ain't the biggest, but she roars when she roars.
• 1:48:43
  But I can't do it. I cannot kick Oregon way Ohio
• 1:48:46
  State play this year. They they what they did to Iowa.
• 1:48:50
  Iowa is one of the best defensive coach teams.
• 1:48:53
  Y'all know this and and Iowa had it tricked down the first half
• 1:48:57
  and when they come out like 28 on them in the second-half, you
• 1:49:02
  know what's scary? You know what's scary?
• 1:49:05
  That that's the scary piece. So give me Ohio State, I'll take
• 1:49:08
  I'll, I'll lay the points. Sheldon Scott.
• 1:49:12
  Sheldon, Ohio State. OK.
• 1:49:15
  Ohio State, Miranda and Jason, Brian, you all alone, man, You
• 1:49:23
  are. All alone, man, Real good or
• 1:49:25
  real bad? Beat alone won't be Go ahead.
• 1:49:29
  Beat alone won't be all righty. Our wonderful contributing
• 1:49:34
  writer is going with one of those classic SEC rivalries.
• 1:49:38
  Always a good time on Rocky Top. Florida, Tennessee laying 15 1/2
• 1:49:45
  points. Chris, can you lay 15 1/2?
• 1:49:49
  Or. Are you going with oh Rocky Top?
• 1:49:54
  And it's in Tennessee. It is at Tennessee.
• 1:49:57
  Oh yeah. Yeah, Oh.
• 1:49:59
  Yeah, 10, Yeah, yeah. My man's in trouble, man.
• 1:50:03
  God, he goes. Oh, God, what?
• 1:50:05
  What time's the game? Hold on, let me get you up here.
• 1:50:07
  It is a 7:00 night kick. They probably going to come up
• 1:50:13
  with those black and orange uniforms on 2O.
• 1:50:16
  God, God, 15 is a lot and but Florida hasn't looked really
• 1:50:22
  good at all this year. Yeah, what, 15?
• 1:50:29
  God, that's a lot of points. Yeah, man, I'm I'm, I'm Jesus.
• 1:50:37
  That's a lot of. Points man Chris Chris, you want
• 1:50:40
  us to run through? Because Yeah, yeah, let me tell
• 1:50:43
  you, all of a sudden, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:50:45
  Go ahead, Charlie. Somebody just let.
• 1:50:47
  Me think about it, Brian. We'll go through everybody and
• 1:50:49
  then we'll come back to you, Brian.
• 1:50:51
  Tennessee's pissed and they're playing at home.
• 1:50:54
  It's a night game. That's all I need to know.
• 1:50:57
  OK. Bingo, bingo, bingo.
• 1:51:00
  Tennessee is pissed. They got embarrassed down in
• 1:51:02
  Fayetteville against the Razorbacks.
• 1:51:06
  This is one of those. I think it's going to be about
• 1:51:08
  24 to 28. I think they going to spank
• 1:51:11
  them. And I think Billy Napier might
• 1:51:13
  not have a job come Monday because you're right, Chris, he
• 1:51:16
  is in trouble. Shelton is riding with Tennessee
• 1:51:20
  as well. Tally what you got.
• 1:51:22
  Man, I'm I'm going to go with Florida in this game, not
• 1:51:25
  because I think Florida's going to win.
• 1:51:27
  I just think that that's a lot of points to lay and Tennessee
• 1:51:31
  is upset about last week. I think that that may be, you
• 1:51:36
  know, first of all, they've had a lot of games in a row, but
• 1:51:40
  they've had to play, you know, like what They had Oklahoma,
• 1:51:43
  then we got Arkansas, and these games are physical, you know,
• 1:51:46
  they're hitting. And right now Florida's kind of
• 1:51:49
  a doormat. You know, that that that's kind
• 1:51:51
  of what the SEC is looking at. It's looking at them like.
• 1:51:55
  But guess what? After they play Arkansas and
• 1:51:59
  they lost, they got Florida. Guess what they got next week?
• 1:52:03
  Alabama. They got Alabama.
• 1:52:05
  Do you know anything about those rivalries?
• 1:52:07
  Tennessee and Alabama hate each other.
• 1:52:10
  When Alabama went on, when Alabama got put on probation,
• 1:52:14
  that was Tennessee. They got Alabama put on
• 1:52:16
  probation. So you talk about Alabama and
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  Auburn, AL and Tennessee is at that level.
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  I just think Florida's going to sneak into.
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  I'm not saying they're going to win, but I think they're going
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  to make it more of a game because of all the stuff that
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  Tennessee has going on. But that's my opinion.
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  All right. Seeing a back door cover there
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  Tally. Back door cover.
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  Back door cover. Durant is rolling with
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  Tennessee, and so is Jason. So, Chris?
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  That's all I needed that back story.
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  There you go then I'm going I'm going Florida that that's that's
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  it because they're mad think about it.
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  They pissed off their laws of Arkansas, but they looking past
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  Florida and Billy's playing for his job.
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  So they're going to lose but they're not going to lose that
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  bad. So that's just too many 15 1/2
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  points is a lot of points. Remember they they said we were
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  going to go down and lose by 17 to Miami.
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  I knew that that pissed the oh, yeah.
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  So I, I, yeah. So I, I, I get, I'm, I'm going
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  with Florida. I'm, I'm gonna ride with you
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  all. He won't be the lone wolf on
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  that one. Not the lone wolf on me.
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  Not the lone wolf. He won't be the lone rider.
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  All righty. Here, he won't be the Midnight
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  rider on that one. The Midnight Rider All right, so
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  I'm music Man Jason. He is going down to the Bayou
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  and looking at the Ole Miss LSU game.
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  Jimmy do from the new and the place buzz people will come see
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  he falls behind us. We dress in style.
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  Woah, wound the old mound. So we're gonna let it fall now.
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  Home bound. OK, Welcome back to guitar licks
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  and gambling picks. I'm Jason Long.
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  Now, you Hank fans have probably already figured it out.
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  I'm looking at the LSU game this week.
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  Ole Miss is travelling to Death Valley.
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  I think LSU is going to win outright and Vegas is giving
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  them 2 1/2 points, so I'm going to take the Tigers all day on
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  that one. Now the best part about this
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  matchup is the game starts at 6:00 Eastern and that's dinner
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  time at my house. So I think I'm going to have and
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  jump a light crossed. I feel it gone.
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  Of course, tonight don't sing my ship me you pick it up.
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  If you jar and begin, Son of a gun will let it fun hold the
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  fire. Son of a Gun will have it fun.
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  Hold the fire. See you next week.
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  All righty, so we got Ole Miss LSULSUA home dog in Death Valley
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  on a Saturday night. Chris Lester, if you if you need
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  to think about it, let me know. We let.
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  You guys in? No, I'm easy.
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  I'm easy with this one. I like Lane Kiffin.
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  I I think I think this is going to be a time for, you know, the
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  emotional coaches sit there and say these are games that we
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  should win and maybe you'll knock the water over this time.
• 1:55:33
  You know, I like Ole Miss in this one.
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  I like Wayne Jackson Dart. I like that football team.
• 1:55:39
  I like that football team a lot. I like Juice Wells to go ahead
• 1:55:41
  and have another have a breakout game.
• 1:55:43
  And yeah, I like Ole Miss in this one.
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  All right. Yeah, I I like Ole Miss as well.
• 1:55:50
  I think, I think darts going to handle some business in this
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  one. That's a tough place to go into,
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  but I think they've got the juice on the offensive side of
• 1:56:01
  the ball to go in there, handle, handle that pressure, take care
• 1:56:04
  of business, come out there with the Dub.
• 1:56:07
  As much as I dislike Brian Kelly, it is going to be a hell
• 1:56:14
  of a thing for Ole Miss to go in and do what they did.
• 1:56:19
  We've seen Ole Miss against Ng defenses, right?
• 1:56:22
  We've seen all this against some stingy defenses.
• 1:56:25
  Kentucky slowed them down at home.
• 1:56:29
  I'm with Jason on this. I, I, I think LSU pulls it out.
• 1:56:32
  I think that crowd's going to have a significant effect on
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  what Lane wants to do. And I just, I felt like they
• 1:56:40
  should have smoked South Carolina by more last week.
• 1:56:44
  Felt like 27 to 9. The way South Carolina looks, I,
• 1:56:49
  I just can't do it. So I'll take LSU at home.
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  Shelton's riding with you there, Curtis Tally.
• 1:56:56
  Yeah, I can't pick LSU until they bring back Nick down there.
• 1:57:01
  It's like the hope you need to bring back, stick it in.
• 1:57:03
  So I just think, I do think I do think Ole Miss is the better
• 1:57:08
  team here. I think Lane kind of thrives in
• 1:57:11
  certain positions. So I think that Ole Miss, I like
• 1:57:15
  them better in this game there. You go.
• 1:57:18
  Miranda's riding with us there. Tally.
• 1:57:21
  With. Jason, we know taking the
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  Tigers. Taking the.
• 1:57:25
  Tigers all right. There's the rundown.
• 1:57:28
  There you go. By the way, we got to think
• 1:57:31
  about the last three weeks of our music man's genre range.
• 1:57:36
  If y'all have not been paying attention, several weeks ago he
• 1:57:39
  did California Love. Last.
• 1:57:42
  Week, Chris. You Yeah, he did Purple Rain.
• 1:57:45
  He did Purple Rain Man. That was that was dope.
• 1:57:47
  I like that. That was nice.
• 1:57:50
  In this week going back to the 1950s, he bringing up some Hank
• 1:57:53
  Williams senior and some of the classic country music.
• 1:57:56
  Again, y'all check Jason out. He's always out here.
• 1:57:59
  We, we've known Jason pretty much.
• 1:58:01
  I've known him pretty much my whole life.
• 1:58:03
  So always check him out. Chris, my man, we appreciate you
• 1:58:08
  joining us tonight. I can't say much more than that,
• 1:58:10
  man. Thank you.
• 1:58:12
  Thank you all for having me man. I I really appreciate it man.
• 1:58:15
  I'm always rocking with y'all and I just appreciate everything
• 1:58:19
  y'all do for Hokey Nation man Y'all, y'all y'all take the
• 1:58:25
  y'all take the emotion out of it and let us to be logical.
• 1:58:28
  So when we come and talk to y'all on a on a Tuesday night,
• 1:58:32
  we've had all the emotion. We did all the roller coasters
• 1:58:34
  and y'all come with great content.
• 1:58:36
  Shelton is my stat child. I love him.
• 1:58:39
  I just want to hear him talk stats.
• 1:58:41
  I'm going to adopt him one day and just have him run all stats
• 1:58:44
  for me and make me sound smarter, help me when I'm when
• 1:58:48
  I'm when I'm fussing with people.
• 1:58:50
  But man, y'all do do a great job man.
• 1:58:53
  Thank you for having me. Thank you for inviting me in and
• 1:58:55
  letting me be hang out with y'all tonight.
• 1:58:58
  Yeah, definitely, man. We always love when Chris comes
• 1:59:01
  through as well as everybody else in the chat, man.
• 1:59:03
  I mean, I every week it seems like we're getting more and
• 1:59:06
  more, you know, people talking in the chat, man, please
• 1:59:10
  continue to do that. The love, we, we appreciate the
• 1:59:14
  love, but we also couldn't do what we do without, you know,
• 1:59:17
  you guys throwing stuff in there for us, letting us know what
• 1:59:21
  you're thinking, showing us some new things that we probably
• 1:59:25
  didn't see. That's why this community is so
• 1:59:27
  great. That's why we are family again,
• 1:59:30
  so much knowledge, so much, you know, talent in in in the fan
• 1:59:35
  base them and we love to love to see it.
• 1:59:38
  Yeah, Chris, Chris has got it's got a hat on that I'm kind of
• 1:59:41
  jealous of. I'm trying not to look.
• 1:59:43
  I'm trying not to look over that.
• 1:59:45
  Hey. Man, listen bro, my I told you
• 1:59:48
  and I told you. This is why I started following
• 1:59:50
  you, Brian. This is why I followed you all.
• 1:59:51
  Tally's hat game was so crazy. I was like, yo, I got to meet
• 1:59:56
  him. His hat game is crazy.
• 1:59:59
  So because before I came here, I wouldn't even wear.
• 2:00:03
  You know, just just know, you know, I wouldn't even wear.
• 2:00:08
  So I thought I was like, yeah, man, you know, back in the day,
• 2:00:11
  you know, I wasn't always a model citizen.
• 2:00:13
  So my kids laugh at me. So I said I don't wear orange.
• 2:00:17
  That was a big thing with tech. So.
• 2:00:19
  But he hadn't had a hat on. So I got this one from the SWBA
• 2:00:22
  shop. Man shout out to this is that?
• 2:00:26
  The one with the rubber, that's the one with the rubber.
• 2:00:33
  I had it last year. He's going to the NC State game.
• 2:00:36
  So I just, I just try to pick up a different 1 here and there.
• 2:00:39
  I'm, I'm trying to, I'm trying to work to get to Tally's level.
• 2:00:42
  I'll probably will never pass him, but I'm working to get.
• 2:00:44
  To that you you already there, don't even worry about.
• 2:00:47
  It I just try to get, I just try to give, you know, much love to
• 2:00:50
  all the different creators out there.
• 2:00:52
  But the SWBA guys, they, they always, they look out for you to
• 2:00:56
  like if I see someone like, yo, I need that.
• 2:00:58
  And they're like, hey, yeah, meet me.
• 2:00:59
  And they'll just meet me with it.
• 2:01:01
  And I'm like, that's, that's all.
• 2:01:02
  That's why I like these guys. Guys, man.
• 2:01:03
  They'll meet me anywhere. They got a little money for
• 2:01:06
  them, they'll bring me a hat and that's what's up.
• 2:01:08
  There we go. Love it, love it.
• 2:01:10
  All righty Well y'all, that is going to wrap up this episode of
• 2:01:13
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• 2:01:19
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• 2:02:05
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