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012: The Vision Stand (VisionQuest Episodes 1 & 2 + NYCC 2026) · Concession Stand

• Nick: What's up, everyone? Welcome back to the concession stand. I'm Nick, and across the screen is my co-host Jules. Julz: How you guys doing? Nick: Today we got a lot, a lot, a lot to talk about. we got a lot of news on the movie and gaming front, including we got some Xbox news talking about some a new TV expansion division or film and TV expansion division. we got the first trailer for Mike Flanagan's The Exorcist Martyrs. We got some some anime news with Project Rasengon and Naruto and a lot of stuff going on in that realm. Julz: yes, sir. Nick: We got the first trailer for Greta Gerwigs, The Magician's Nephew, coming out in 2027. And New York Comic-Con was last week. So we're going to talk about, our main takeaways from that, mostly coming, or pretty much all coming from Marvel. So all before we really get into the first two episodes of Vision Quest, which dropped a couple days ago. So lot on the plate, lot on the plate. The only place you can eat it is at the concession stand. So let's get right into it. Let's let's let's dive right in. so first up on the docket jewels, you wanna tell us about Xbox? Julz: yes, guys, the console wars are supposedly over, but Xbox has swung back because PS five in a highly, highly disliked move, has discontinued disc games. So what that means is that you own digital games and you have an a license to that digital game that they can revoke at any point. Now with a disc game, they can't do that. They can't stop you from playing. They might be able to stop you playing online, but they can't stop you from playing the game by yourself. So what this means for or what Xbox did, their CEO has recently come out with, you know, an announced with along with Xbox Labs, which is, you know, they're trying to explore explore new ways to play. And essentially, the team of developers and engineers and scientists have are they exploring the emerging technology. And if you guys haven't seen, there are a lot of games, Halo or like you know, for PlayStation, Black Ops, that have been come become playable within a browser, which wasn't really necessarily always able to be done. Meaning you can go on X or on your phone or you're on your phone's browser and play these games that were created by these modders or developers. And this is a way for, this is the future. And Xbox is trying to get ahead of the eight ball necessarily and basically, you know, get with their, you know, with this new model. Because it's they challenge our existing business models. Her quote, For everyone wants to know this quote, they were these are unmistakably good outcomes for players, even when and sometimes because they challenge our existing business models, which is a very player-friendly player, pro-player move, you know, where they're gonna share and or they're gonna share their discoveries with these developers so that these people can keep putting these things out. Because they she believes, I would say, that this is just the future and they might as well get with it. And Another thing they have created is Xbox Pictures, Xbox products, or and Xbox Places and some other partnerships. And then there's a current cross media project that includes a Minecraft movie sequel, Fallout Season Three, and a Call of Duty film and a Diablo animated series, which were all games that we all love and have been, playing for most of our lives. Now, we mentioned about how the modders, they're doing different things like, bringing of PS5 games that were mainly PS5 to the PC, it's, you know, the modders line of thinking on this is if buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing. Because if you buy a game and you don't own it, and if PlayStation can take away that right, your right to play that game or your license to play that game, did you really buy it? What do you think, Nick? Nick: Nope. Nope. Same with DVDs. Same with all these movies on streaming that you you know, you could buy for twenty, thirty bucks, but you don't really you don't really own do you? Julz: And when the apocalypse hits the folks, hits folks, are you gonna be able to use the internet? Are you gonna need all your stuff that's just, you know, on your heartline? So that's why, you a lot of people are building home labs, which is essentially a compu a screenless computer that can run all of your it's like a server. They can run all of your, you know, if have all of these, you know, compiled videos or movies and stuff like that, you can run it off. Your own home server and that will be a a workaround streaming very soon because a lot of you can build a home lab for less than a hundred dollars. you go to Goodwill, a goodwill technology, get some of their old computers, some hard drives. There's a lot of I I'm not gonna explain how to make it on the podcast, but there are a lot of people out there who will explain that to you. but Nick: Mm-hmm. Julz: it is Something that's happening because, with AI and with the what new wave of technology, this is just the way that, if it's not open source and done correctly, people will get locked out behind a paywall. When and like, you know, and if that paywall is there, that's okay. But if the paywall can always be revoked and you just lose licensing and b and the ability to access it, then did you really ever own it? No. So But that is, it's it matters because it's, Xbox is turning transmedia, a transmedia franchise into a permanent function instead of a one-off licensing like PlayStation. And the timing after, layoffs and major studio changes makes his priorities debatable. So it's, you know, some there's some pushback, but I think that the prior, you know, the debatable aspect of it or why people might want to debate it is because, you know, they don't wanna they don't wanna see the change. And change is good, it's not always n what we expect or normal, but change is always good. But that being said, I think that, the gaming community, we have some things to look forward to. Because that Nick: Yeah, yeah. Julz: means Playstation for Playstation users, all of our games are gonna be on PC. You won't ever have to probably pay for certain games if you want to you could just play it on your phone or on your PC now. And also Yeah, this is a a bigger thing. GTA six. What this means now, because of all these modders and how a PlayStation has ha pretty much been kind of broken into and hacked, they will be able to port p the PC version of GTA six for free. For free. They'll probably have this Nick: Who Julz: done the day GTA six comes to console on Playstation five and they'll have it they'll already Nick: That's crazy. Julz: have it done and be ready to port to PlayStation or to PC so that you won't have to buy it. So keep your eyes and ears peeled, folks. Nick: Damn, that's craz I was I maybe it was a different game, but I feel like I saw something that s said that GTA that they were planning on having GTA six be available for PC early 2027 or something like that. Julz: Yes, exactly. It was gonna come out a whole year after. So it's this being this happening is means that they're going PlayStation and you know, they're gonna lose a lot of money because they don't wanna use it. They don't wanna bring it to a disc game. They wanna keep it, you know, digital and do all that. Nick: He's a Julz: And it's like if you're gonna do all that, then why don't we have huge terabyte hard drives in our consoles? You know, there's consoles with Nick: Literally, that's a great question. Julz: half a terabyte and you're over here trying to, you know. And then when when you stuff Call of Duty, all four hundred g gigabytes of Call of Duty onto your PS five, what else games can what other games can you play? So and that's Nick: Get me started. Julz: why it turned me off of certain things. I had to upgrade mine and get a a S D so that I could store Nick: yep. Julz: more, which was an extra terabyte and a half. So and it's like and Nick: Yep. Wha come on now. Julz: you don't always wanna have to pay for that. That's just, it's annoying. But, you know. Nick: Facts. Just make it, make it easier. Just separate. Be able to, physical discs. You can also separate, you don't have to store everything in one place. You can, you can just take it out, put that shit in the case. it's not, But Julz: Exactly. So Nick: I'm excited for that, you know, Call of Duty film though. I'll take that. Julz: yeah, the Call of Duty film is probably gonna be cool. I I wonder what storyline, if they're gonna follow one of the story modes or the storylines within the story. Like I feel like if they do Call of Duty Black Ops and do Mason, which is in that story, is probably my favorite Call of Duty story personally. And Nick: Mm. Julz: like if they do him, 'cause it this would be like this would be going back to Cold War era stuff. he gets brainwashed. Kennedy's around. all that. So I feel like it could be really Nick: That could be good. That could be good shit. Julz: good. We got JFK. Like, come on. You know, I th I I'm pretty sure Nick: I feel like Julz: in a mission you you talk with like head the heads of the cabinet at that time. And it's like right before you go off on a mission somewhere. And so Nick: Yeah. Julz: I I thought that was pretty cool. So Nick: That's tough. That's tough. I can't lie. I d I feel like since they haven't, that it would be our first Call of Duty, adaptation, whatever. that at least I I don't think there's been another one, but I think if there if you wanna do if Julz: I don't think so either. Nick: you wanna franchise it, I think you just start with a just like a straight, you know, just the movie is just Call of Duty and it's not and may maybe it's focused on either like the first Call of Duty game like story or it's Julz: Right. Nick: like just like some like story that just puts you in the world of Call of Duty so that when they make the following ones, then they could just pull from the games like you know, from the stories like like you said. And then so then Julz: Right. Right. Nick: every time one comes out, you know, at you know, Call of Duty, Modern Warfare, you know, everybody's everybody's gonna be like, sh shit, you know, but who knows? Julz: Yeah, no. I and I think it's gonna be like that. It's it has a chance to really do that. So I think that's gonna be good. So but we I think Nick: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we'll see. Julz: we have our first trailer for Mike Flanagan's The Exorcist Martyrs, starring Scarlet Johansson, Nick. So Nick is gonna Nick: Yes, yes. Yup, yes. Julz: pull that up for us guys and I think you guys are really gonna like this one. I personally I seen the trailer already. it was Pretty good in my opinion. I'm always I'm a huge Scarlet Joe fan. So I feel like, she's gonna play this really well. So it's this follows a detective who watches a serial killer's execution only for his murder spree to continue in demonic ways. So that's the basis, that's the little overview for everybody listening in. But that's what this is gonna be. So I think that, there was a movie that we seen last like About two years ago on Halloween, something like that. Not Halloween. Maybe was it Halloween? I can't remember. It was in the it was in this area, but basically the it was not a s it was a similar premise, but not the same premise. But it was like a guy was going to interview a get a deaf road dude who did some crazy stuff. And basically the demon, or the possessed possessed person, like was possessed by this demon for so long that There was all these things and this demon knew so much about who he was who was interviewing him and things he shouldn't have known. things about his life that were very personal and intimate that he didn't share with anyone. And so Nick: Mm-hmm. Julz: and it just showed how that would how that could look like if a person was truly possessed or something like that. that was what they were trying to depict. And I thought that was pretty, pretty interesting, especially for the perspective of the guy who like the therapist person like the person interviewing the the prisoner. So maybe Nick: Yeah. Julz: I I wonder if this one is gonna be similar, in that regard, where it has a similar, theme in that aspect. Nick: Mmm, I'm I'm interested too, 'cause I mean I feel like I feel like Scarlet Joe specifically is somebody who like would be really good in like some just some some you know some some some haunted shit. And like I'm like Julz: Right. When's the last time we've seen her in something haunted in something like that? a scary movie. Nick: I don't know. I really don't I really don't know. I'm sure maybe what? Cause no Ghost in the Shell is like action action thriller. what else is there? There's the what is that movie where she's like a she like knows a lot or something or she's like she's I wanna say she might be another android or something. Like she Lucy, Lucy. Yeah, that yeah. Julz: Lucy. You're thinking of Lu you're thinking of Lucy. Nick: Yeah. But that's not a horror movie either. So like Julz: Right. It's kind of just a drama action movie. I think that was a demon talking to her and that's why she said that. Nick: I see. I see. I see. That go that can make sense. That can make sense. Interesting. That ooh Lord. Lord. my. That was Julz: Yeah no, me my Nick: damn. That first the first half of that trailer was like I don't know. I wasn't ready for all that to j to you know, they do usually just don't hit you with it like that, from the beginning of the trailer. Like Julz: Yeah, no, that was I wasn't ready to see the inverted the the inverted crucifixion. Well it wasn't really inverted crucifixion, but it was Nick: Literally. But just pull him pulling the the thing out of his body, I was like, Julz: Mm. It was definitely gruesome. So you Nick: And Julz: guys are for the people who are a little bit more weak stomached, prepare yourselves for that one. Nick: Yeah. But I think Scarlet Joe Julz: Definitely. Nick: looks good look like her the role that she's in, I feel like is gonna be a good role for her. Like, you know, sh Julz: I think she's about to eat this one up. Nick: Yeah, yeah, yeah. She what it she sh she's a d detective and she's, tracking all these like serial killers, Julz: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Nick: you know, associations with like Satan and being possessed and all this this shit. So it's like, okay, we're actually getting and I mean we've seen this in other movies, but like it's gonna be interesting to see like a story centered around detective or police person who is actually leaning into all the demon stuff that's going on as opposed to being like, that can't be real or what you know, whatever that Julz: Right. Nick: type type of stuff. So that's gonna be cool. Julz: Yeah, exactly. So and's and I wonder if she's gonna be like like that in the beginning and then she's like, Okay, this is not right or who knows? Nick: Yeah. Julz: Maybe that pastor, maybe or maybe the the priest there, I keep blanking on his name, Backroom Scott. Nick: yeah, I can't remember his name either. But yeah, yeah. He's good. He's good. Julz: But it yeah, I either cause I don't think he is I think he's just gonna be helping the like figure it out. But that person in that black and red, thing who's like this, you know, against the thing. I Nick: Mm-hmm. Julz: think I think there's gonna be some Satanists floating around. I think that person might be one of We'll see. So I think there we're gonna Nick: True. True. Okay. Julz: see some more stuff and like maybe some more intricate things because like what we've been seeing in most of these new horror stuff. Especially with I think there was a guy, like a YouTuber, who has made it his point to be cursed by all things and or to ta to willingly take on the curses to see if they work. Nick: What's Julz: Yeah, no, there's somebody I'm pretty sure there's a guy out there who's like right now doing that, traveling the world doing that, having himself cursed. So Nick: Wow, that's insane. I don't know. I ooh, I mean Godspeed to that man, but you're asking for for Julz: yeah. Nick: all sorts of trouble. Julz: Yeah, so if anybody, you know, anybody or if any of our listeners wants to leave a comment on that, if you guys do know anything about that, we would love to know. We would love to cover it. So if anybody else knows any more than we do, please speak up. Cause we wanna know if that guy's okay. We wanna check on him. Nick: Yep. Yeah, facts. But another it's gonna be another another Mike Flanagan banger after, know, we just Julz: yeah. Nick: we we both just finished Carrie. Jules Julz: my. Nick: r recently just finished Haunt or what what was the other Midnight Mass, right? And and we're Julz: Yeah, midnight mass, which was also Mike Flanagan. Nick: Yep, and we're about to s be seeing Clayface next week. So I mean shoot. Yep. Julz: I've been getting all my flanagan in and I think his his he knows what he's doing. Clayface is about to be, yeah. So speaking of Clayface, Nick, Nick: Mm-hmm. I can't wait. Julz: didn't we have have a have a special guest at the red carpet? Nick: yes, there was a clayface premiere earlier this week, you know. All the normal faces you would expect to attend were there, you know. James Gunn, his wife, you know, we got some some DCU actors, you know, showing up. It's cool, nothing too unexpected. But then my boy Grant Gustin pulls up. My boy Grant Gustin. Julz: And for those who don't know who that is, Nick, enlighten them. Nick: That is the main known casting for the Flash. Bar none. I don't care about no Ezra. I don't care about no Wes. I don't care. I don't care about none of that. Okay. This is this is the guy in terms of the Flash, all right? Nine seasons. Nine seasons. He stayed around after the show stopped being good. Okay. He was in the trenches, all right? And throughout them whole nine years. When the DCEU was going on, he never got invited to these pr to those premieres. Never, not once. So my boy Julz: Once. Nick: James said, Hey, justice needs to be served. Ayo Grant, come up here. Julz: And you've heard it here first, Nick Wright. You've heard you I'ma let you call it officially one fifty one PM October fifteenth, twenty twenty six. Nick, do you think our next flash is Grant Custom? Nick: man, I certainly hope so. I certainly hope so. Because here's the thing James could either have been extending that invitation, like I said, just as a little, I know you've been done dirty in the past, I see you. I want you, Julz: Like a little head knot, but Nick: you know, I want to acknowledge you. Here you go. Come on. Which in that case, it's fine. I'm cool with that if that's the case. But if for some reason there's some stuff going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. And they've had a few more conversations than we do know about. And he does end up becoming the Flash. I would love I I want that way more than I want the first one, but I'm okay. I'm okay with either. I'm okay with either. Julz: Just had an idea. Nick: Okay, let's hear it. Julz: So what's canonically the best way to to defeat Clayface? Nick: I guess what is Julz: Freezing him. Nick: it? Freezing true, true, true. Julz: Who is a lot of Flash's villains? Nick: Freeze, Captain Cold. Mm. So you th what you think he could show up in the in in the in the movie? Julz: Maybe not in the movie. Maybe we get a cameo. Nick: Okay a bar a Barry Allen cameo or something? Julz: Yes. And it's Grant Gustin. Which is why he's at the Nick: Listen, man. Julz: premiere. Nick: Listen, man. Listen, man. You don't. I feel bad. I'm just gonna leave it at this before we get I go I go too crazy. We you I feel bad for any theater employee or moviegoer that has to endure me seeing Grant Gustin on the screen in a DCU movie and and confirming that he's the Flash. There's no like I have to apologize in advance because I can't I can't possibly even predict what how I would react and what kind of shit I would be doing. Bro, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Julz: Please have someone record it. If you go if you if you go nuts, you just just just let them know previously before the movie starts, A, not the whole theater, but whoever you're going to go see it with, you know what I'm saying? Let her know. It be like, Nick: Yeah. Hey, if I start Julz: yeah. Nick: If I start if it if this happens, Julz: Just is there's no. Nick: you need to you need to record now. You need to you need to Julz: Just just pull the phone out, no flash. I'll be animated enough. Get it? No flash. Nick: I'll get you a yeah, I'll get you a viral video real quick. I see you boy. I see you boy. Tough. Tough. But but yeah, that's on that. Julz: I'm sorry. Nick: We'll see. We'll we'll see in a week. but hey, if Grant Gusson was the flash, I'd be I I'd love it. I'd be I'd be cool. I'd be here for it. But Jules, tell us about a little something called Sorry. Julz: Project Resengon, you say. Okay. So these will be our unconfirmed details and theories and then just the confirmed stuff for Project Rasengon, which is basically the officially announced which you know brings together Naruto and Ninku, a new manga drawn by Mashi Kishimoto and a Naruto card game and a Naruto Mobile Global rollout. So that's, you know, with Project Rasengon all in cases as of right now. We will get more information December 19th, December 20th, around there or 2026. And these are the further details on Project Resent on. That's when they're supposed to come out. And that'll be released at Jump Festa, as I said, December 19th to the 20th, 2026. So the story theory and like this has also been announced. There is a new manga has been reported under the title Naruto Shadow Rising. But the official English project page and viz announcement. reviewed describe it as simply as a Naruto manga by Kishimoto. So treat the title as report, rather than official verified, officially verified. you know, this is just a theory, so you know, give us some grace there. But the teaser, you know, had an unfinished seventh seventh Hokage face, Naruto holding a Hokage hat and appearances by original Team Seven suggesting a story around Naruto becoming Hokage. So we don't know the exact timeline or the plot and there's a baby. So Maybe Boruto. We don't know the identity of it is, but that being said, it you know, we don't know how this will kind of unfold, but we'll get a better idea 19th or the 20th for that. But that's what's going on for as far as our anime news in that regard. We have some more things on. and just so that everybody understands the Ninku one, the creator is Koji Kuryama. and essentially it's gonna be a young Naruto mashup with this all this other character. And if you haven't read Ninku, I have not. So I don't know what to really Nick: Neither have I. Julz: expect from that person. it looks great. I like the animation. It's gonna be fun to see the old Team Seven back together. So I'm excited all around for that. And you know, that's that's gonna be excuse me. We'll be finding out when we're gonna get that, December nineteenth, probably. And They've also, this the card game that's coming out is scheduled for June 2020 2027. So we shall see. But every other detail, good. Nick: Tough. I'm I'm definitely most excited for that. wait, go ahead. Go ahead. Julz: Every other detail of Project Resung on will be released and you'll be able to hear it here around December 19th, December 20th. Nick: Tough, tough. This is this hefty Naruto news. I think Julz: yeah. Nick: mostly coming out in New York Comic Con. So that's that's always good to hear. I'm definitely mostly excited for that for that crossover movie with the s with the Julz: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Nick: with the OG squad seven, 'cause like they even though they they made you know, obviously squad seven has changed, like, you know, like it's different in certain movies and you know what sometimes we got Lee, sometimes we got Cy, like whatever. But The OGs, we got Naruto, we got Sakura, we got Sasuke, and and it's a movie where I it seems like they might be going to, the a another universe or some sh I don't I don't even I don't even know. I don't I don't know. Maybe Julz: It seems like they fell out of the sky, so it feels like they got they're transported to another universe. Which so Nick: Yeah. Julz: this is how that can work. So Sasuke eventually gets this transportation technique where he can just kind of jump from dimension to a different dimension. Now that being Nick: damn. Julz: said, if we're let's say like because if it's not young Naruto and they went with an older Naruto, like in it would make sense because let's say it was Sasuke who got him there as adults, but they were when they were jumped through the dimension, they came out as kids. Like I could see that happening and because I don't know how they'll get there. Like either Kakashi would have to accidentally use his transportation technique with his Mon Gekio, or Nick: Yeah. Julz: because I don't know how they get there and how they'll explain that, or if they're just gonna open up with a portal. So like that's where my guesses are so far, because we do know they can do it and dimension jump. It just all Nick: Yeah. Julz: depends on, who's doing it and how they do it. That's the only way it works, for it to be Nick: True. Julz: for Naruto Advanced to accept it. And Kishimoto's amazing. So he's gonna figure that out. Nick: Yeah, yeah, yeah. boy. boy. Well I'm interested. I'm interested to see. Yep, yep, yep. Julz: yeah. It's gonna be good. So but we have our first trailer, Nick, for you wanna take this one? Nick: Yeah, yeah. We got our first trailer for Greta Gerwig's Narnia, The Magician's Nephew, releasing in theaters February 11th, 2027. And poof. This is I've I'm not I've I've already I've seen the trailer already, and I'm just before we before we get into it, this is a different one. I'm not gonna lie. This is not this is not your, you know, the Narnia that you grew up watching. I promise you that. But it looks interesting at the very least. Because, we've heard Greta Gerwig say that she, you know, it had the movie's gonna have a rock and roll kind of center to it. you know, a lot of like and it and I guess I took that to be like mostly about the the like the music and like all the just you know, just like all the audio stuff. But like it seems like the like literal, like visual. inspiration and a lot of that stuff has been is is taken from the the world of rock and roll and and things like that. So yeah it's it's it's gonna be interesting. But let's let's Julz: I think that's gonna be good. Nick: let's watch this shit. Let's see. Let's see for Julz: Yeah, 'cause Nick: ourselves. Julz: I'm excited 'cause I was always a huge Narnia fan when I was growing up. Hulk and all, so Nick: Same, same. Love that sh love that stuff. Julz: it was it was very good. I mean, and we must enforce Nick: do you wanna Julz: and stress this as well. I got you. that That it's also important to read, guys. any of our younger listeners, you know, it's it's good to read. It's good to, you know, make sure you, you know, and it's fun to see the movie, but it's also very important to read. And if you are struggling getting books, shout out Tony Weaver Jr. He has a you know, always gonna shout him out. He's a great guy. He's going to, you know, he has a p a program where you can get yourself some books or some manga if you ever want to start reading anime or you know don't know where to start or don't even know how to get it or if you don't have any accessible places to get it he has a site that you can get that from. So if you look up Tony Weaver Junior and Google, you'll be sure to find it, I'm assuming. But that being said, let's get into our trailer. All right, just just just we're gonna break this down real quick, just cause I I just got Nick: Ha ha. Julz: this. So everybody who has seen this and wants to say that, he threw up the universe, he threw it up. It just like in the beginning and on in the Bible, when it be it began with a word and it was spoken into existence, just like he roared it into existence. I think that's how that went. And that was an analogy for the Big Bang, personally. But Nick: Hmm, okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay. Julz: That's just my breakdown personally. That's just a I to me, that's what it is. That's what it looked like. So, because if you look and you look at his mane, it's not just coming out of his mouth. It's his, it's it's like everything. he is Nick: yeah, no. It's like yeah. Julz: forming himself out of the stuff. he was stars, dust, all that, like the cosmos. And then when he roared, it he became Islam. So even though he was already at. Nick: Yep. But also re remember keep in mind though, in this Aslan will be a woman who is played by Meryl Streep. Julz: I didn't know that. That's actually kind of cool. That's that's kind of cool. I'm here for that. Nick: Yes. Yeah, right? Because it's like so I I'm very it like in that just visually, like I'm Julz: Okay, Merle Street. Nick: right, bro. come on now. And obviously, like just there's a whole bunch of just visual differences between you know this and like the Narnia we're used to. But like God, it looks cool, it looks really cool. Like just you would never I would never have thought that like Aslan being some sort and I'm still not even sure what how how this works, but you know, being some like almost entity in the stars, like I wouldn't even think that would make sense a after getting like a normal lion in the other ones. But it's like the the way they Julz: Right. And and Nick: she just did that and we the way we just saw that was like like my God. Like I need to know what what you know what what's going on. Julz: 'Cause like we didn't think of him as like Lion Jesus, you know. Nick: We didn't, but we should've. Julz: We should have 'cause he came back to life. Like, you know, broke Nick: Yeah. Julz: the table, all the the whole thing. So it's like I think that like I think that in this one we're gonna they're gonna redo him in a way that's different. And I kind of really like that because like we can't when we get it, we come into their world all we in tur already in turmoil, you know, in the forever winter and all that by the ice witch or whatever. And so or by the witch, not the ice witch, but yes, she's an ice witch. But I think that in this one we're going to get like their st their world building as as we get. the story. where the Ice Witch, they she f he freed them, but it's like maybe Aslan has to create the world to get them to go somewhere and shares it with her. And that's where we, you know, that's how it starts. So I don't know. It's gonna be interesting. The pregnant squirrels Nick: Mm interesting. Very interesting. Julz: back. Nick: Lord. Lord. The chronicle continues. And and we got we got Daniel Craig in there too as the uncle. Like, so that's Julz: Right. Come on. And and I and I wonder and because he's like, you know, he obviously has to be a big part of it. Nick: Yeah, right, right, right. 'Cause see I it seems like Julz: Like like there's no way sh he's not. Nick: yeah, he's how it seems like he's how the kids, get into into the the world of Narnia and the magic and all that stuff. So yeah. Julz: Just like, you know, 'cause it wasn't expressly said that that guy who had the wardrobe, the professor, was a like was their uncle. Well, I mean Nick: Was a magician. Or was their no. Or yeah, no, cause they were Julz: Wasn't he just someone nice that took kids in, orphans? Nick: Yeah, he took them in or 'cause their their mom was still with them. Or did the mom send them there? I can't remember. I think the my maybe the mom sent them there 'cause the dad was at war and stuff or whatever. And then so yeah. Julz: I thought the mom sent them there. Right. Because we come into them in the Blitz, during the Blitzkrieg, which is, Nick: Yeah. Julz: you when Hitler bombed out London. And during the Blitzkrieg, we there's a buzz bomb. They go the mom and all of them and Peter, they get them all down into the into the the underground little it's not a bonker, but it's like they're where they would keep their food. It's like an underground pantry, Nick: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Julz: which is w how people used to do it back in the day. And so Nick: Yep, that was Julz: Literally that's where you would have hide have hidden and my uncle or yeah, my uncle Peter actually, my family for everybody those who listening who don't know, my grandmother from England. Her brother during the Blitzkrieg lived through the blitz and she was a baby, he lived through the blitzkrieg, and he hid the loo or the bathroom at that point in time was outside and they had pipes that go over your head instead of underneath you. And basically Nick: shit. Julz: the pipes over his head was what saved him when the building came down because he hid in the loop during the bullets because he couldn't get to the little shelter. They went down there and went down there and waited. And when when the when the bombing was over, he he was alive because he was saved with by the pipes. Nick: That's tough. That's tough. That's tough. Wow. That's a hell of a story right there. Like that Julz: No, like I I've met him before and when I was as a kid and I knew about the blitz, I was like, Hey, Uncle Peter, you tell me about like what you remember about the blitz and then yeah. Nick: Mm-hmm. Julz: Just like it was like super loud and scary like for me. And this is him talking to a ten year old, nine year old, by the way. You know. But I was I knew what it was. And so he was Nick: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Julz: you know, his his story was really cool though. It was it was a good story. But Nick: Tough, tough. Julz: That being said, though, that was that's our Narnia, the Michigan's nephew, releasing in theaters, February eleventh, twenty twenty seven. Nick: Yep, yep, yep. And then so on to the next. We're gonna do our little real quick New York Comic Con twenty twenty six Marvel TV and animation reflection. We got, some, a a handful of little, nuggets of news here. So we're gonna we're gonna dive into them real quick and see what what's coming in the future. So Marvel TV has officially announced Zodiac. The series production starts next year and it's gonna be coming in twenty twenty eight. for anybody who's been listening to the show, we heard about this or we heard about the possibility of this a few weeks ago and we, you know, we talked about it a little bit then. But since then, the head of Marvel TV, Brad Winderbaum, has teased that Julz: Mm-hmm. Nick: it will feature an insane cast of characters, saying it's a globetrotting international espion espionage show about secrets and lies and betrayals and secret acts of loyalty. So We're, it seems like it's not gonna be necessarily hero centric. we doesn't seem like we, you know, it's it's gonna be centered around you know a known MCU hero at this moment right now. You know, w whatever, but we do know that the logo contains the a visible, you know, the the shield logo in one of the w one of the letters. and but Marvel has not confirmed you know, which commons or which comics that it will adapt. So what are you thinking? Julz: So so is it safe to say the Jeffrey Dean Morgan rumor could be true? Cause this is a zodiac. Nick: Mmm Mmm Mmm About Julz: Because you said shield. Nick: Yeah, tell them but tell tell them about the about the the the the Morgan rumor. Julz: So guys, we have a Jeffrey Dean Morgan rumor. And we're well, this is we're gonna start doing this forever podcast as well. Providing a rumor section. So we're you know, we're gonna effectually call affectionately call the T section. So the T fellas and ladies is that Jeffrey Dean Morgan is potentially Nick Fury in Zodiac. What that means is that. We're gonna get that old. If we if you guys ever remember the, the the animated Avenger shows probably when we were kids. it was we there was a white Nick Fury that's in one of these animated shows. Now, that being said, I'm all for Jeffrey D. Morgan taking over for Sam. If Sam wants to keep doing it, we go in it, better be Sam. But if you don't, he's like, I'm done with it. Yeah, Jeffrey D. Morgan's the right pick. He he looks exactly like the guy where he has the salt and pepper, finish. All he needs is an eye patch and he's fine. And he also Nick: You do. Julz: can play the grittin he has the grittiness or the grit to play to play him. So but as of right Nick: Yeah. I agree. I agree. Julz: now, the online casting chatter claims Jeffrey D. Morgan could play the Nick a Nick Fury variant in Zodiac. This remains unconfirmed and you know, we cannot confirm or officially announce, you know. reliable, re a reliable source, you know, is just what everybody's thinking. a competing rumor names Kyle Chandler. So neither should be treated, you know, as a done deal. Because it's like, you know, we just got Kyle Chandler, Green Lantern. Would he be like w could he play Nick Fury? I don't know. I think Jeffrey D. Morgan's the better pick. Nick: Nah, I mean o obviously he could he could. He could. But maybe I'm just I'm just too close Julz: Yeah, no, I mean of course, he course, of course. Not saying he don't have it in his chop. Nick: Yeah, I'm just too close to the lanterns, to the howl of it right now. Like it it's too soon. It's too soon. Julz: Yeah. Right. It'd be hard to see him it would be hard to see him as anything else. So like you would see him as how, depending on how he would play it. But it's interesting because Morgan's Nick: Facts. Bruh, I'm saying Julz: charisma and menace could suit a tougher, morally complicated spy master. So a variant would not automatically mean Sam Samuel L. Jackson's replace, but you know, it would it would definitely work. Nick: But here's the thing. If it's coming out in twenty twenty eight, we have to assume or it it has to be that it's coming out after Secret Wars. So if we're gonna be in the mutant saga by that point and we're out of the multiverse saga, are is the variant thing a possible because like I mean it may okay Julz: I just remembered a I just remembered a comic book. Nick: Okay Julz: So th in the there's a comic book where the so this is the comic context. The classic Nick Fury became Shields leader in Strange Tales 135, 1965. The ultimate version was molded was modeled on Samuel Jackson. Nick's brother Jake Fury, though, is a scorp is Scorpio in the comics, offering a possible family and espionage connection. And that is not confirmed and not it's not a confirmed storyline for the show. But what if this was we still have Samuel Jackson, but we get Jeffrey Dean Morgan as adopted Nick Fury's brother. Nick: Ooh, okay. I could I could be okay with that. I could be okay with that. Julz: Because it says Zodiac and he is called the Scorpio in the comics. He's called Scorpio. He's called Scorpio in the comics. Nick: Nick Fury's brother? Julz: Yes. Nick Fury's brother is Scorpio in the comics. Nick: shit. We might have I think we might have stumbled upon a golden nugget. I'm not gonna lie. I think you might have just that that I mean, come on now. Come on now. Come on now. Clock it. Julz: I think I just called it. I think I called it right there. I think I called it right there. So clocking it 215, October 15th, 2026. We're calling it Zodiac is about Nick Fury's brother, Jake Fury, aka Scorpio. Nick: And Jeffrey D. Morgan may or may not be playing him. We'll see. But that, ooh, I like it. I like Julz: Exactly. Cause it would work. It would work. Nick: it. I like it. Cause I don't, I don't ever, I'm one of the I'm of the camp. I don't ever want to see Nick Sam leave the role of Nick Fury. Obviously, he's getting older. Obviously, you know, Nick Fury's not gonna be in every Marvel project, you know, like he kind of like he used to be. But it would be cool just to see him pop up every now and again and do his, you know, do his little thing. but Julz: And it would be like it would be easier, it would be easy to do that because then Samuel Jackson could be the kind of control laid back one. And then Jake Scorpio Fury would be the whole hey man, like the menace, which is Jeffrey Dean Morgan to a T. Nick: Yeah, the other ones. Yeah, yeah. Okay, that that's what I was gonna say. My only problem with the Jeffrey D. Morgan casting is that and we talked about this earlier, is that he's performance wise, great performance. There, I don't think I don't have any doubts about that. But just age wise and like I think I think if you're going to recast or if you're i I mean, w if this was the Jake Fury thing. Maybe maybe this is different. Maybe this doesn't this isn't but if you're if we're gonna recast Nick Fury from Samuel L. Jackson and you wanna go, into the you wanna change races or you you honestly if you just wanna recast period, I think you go younger. Julz: Or if he's a variant, if if for example, if instead of instead of having like what this could mean is that our Nick Fury has a brother and we just don't know about him. Or it could go like they can go with the whole variant route where Jake Fury, Scorpio, is the is the the spy master instead of his brother. Because his brother was adopted. Nick: So Julz: Now that's not comic book accurate, but I don't know, but that's how I would tie it up. Cause how are you gonna 'cause Nick: Interesting. mean they could tie it up like that. Julz: they they can't just tell they can't tell us that fucking Jeffrey D. Morgan is frickin' albino. Nick: no, no, no. I mean but they c what if they were Julz: Yeah, like it doesn't work. Nick: what if what if they were like brothers the same way that Steve and Bucky are brothers or some shit like that. Like Julz: Okay. That's fair too. That's fair too. That's fair too. But then we would have to have seen him in Marvel, Ms. Marvel, potentially when when he was back then. That's why I don't think it works. It would have to go the variant route. Nick: No, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Cause there's no especially I mean, 'cause think think about it, we didn't even Julz: Unless he just was like never met didn't mess with him. Nick: Yeah, but we didn't even know that Nick Fury had a wife until Secret Invasion. So like Julz: Right. Until secret invader. Nick: would it be that absurd that he has a brother out there somewhere that like but but but here's but also like like I said before, it's gonna Julz: He is Nick Fury, so Nick: be it's gonna be coming out after Secret Wars. And so like we're all assuming that Secret Wars or like we've heard that Secret Wars is gonna somehow kind of like reset the the MCU like not full reset, but like it's gonna like kinda give us a new starting point to go from to go forward from after Secret Wars. So like there we're probably gonna get some new castings, we're probably gonna you know of old characters, we're probably gonna get some of the same characters. but you know I don't it just does Samuel L. Jackson make it through that without, you know, getting getting changed. But Julz: Right. That part. That's the that's the question, isn't it? Nick: but We'll see, we'll see. But on to the next, onto the next jewels. Julz: yes. So next up we got yes, we got the Marvel TV announces, a new Marvel Zombies follow ups with two part specials coming each year for the next three years. So twenty twenty seven, we have the winter soldier, twenty twenty eight, the fist of conshoe, and then twenty twenty nine, The Last Guardian. So the Last Guardian one is something I'm like, you know, we already know what the other first two are. I'm like, is this the Red Guardian? Who are we talking about? So Nick: Guardians of the Galaxy. Julz: okay. The last guardian of galaxy. That's pretty cool then. All right. Then I can see this working. I can I can see this being really well. Now if it now is this gonna be a Marvel Zombie spin off? So is this them like them within the Marvel Zombies universe? Or is this after Wanda? Okay. Nick: I think I think yet I think I think it's I don't know. I don't know. I I I I'm assuming it's gonna be after the Wanda thing, but at the same time I don't know. It I but at the same time it's still gonna be like within the that whole continuity of like Marvel zombies and sh and shit. It's just I don't know if it's gonna be before or after the Wanda thing. Julz: See if you I feel like the farther north you are, the safer you are. That's why the winter soldier, I'm like, maybe he's just chilling in Russia. You know, maybe he never maybe Nick: Maybe, maybe. Julz: he never got waking woken up. Nick: Maybe he went back to that maybe. no no no 'cause I think we saw him in that the Marvel Ep zombies what if episode and he was alive. So maybe he could have yeah, but he could have still just gone back to Russia and like gone to that like the place that they had all the other like winter soldiers locked up to Julz: Yes, when soldiers. Nick: Zemo went. Yeah. He could just, you know, hunger down in there and just be chill for real, for real. But Julz: No, for real. who's gonna fucking and who's gonna go check in there? Nick: Okay, but think about this though. When I first see the Fist of Consu, I'm thinking, Okay, bet we're getting Moon Knight back. But in the Marvel Zombies Julz: What if his blade might? Nick: conf exactly, in the Marvel Zombies con continuity, we got Blade Knight. So Julz: I'm here for blade night. Come on, man. Y'all wanna give us blade in real life? Let us let's release come Nick: You for real. Julz: on now. Let us let us get him in the animated at least. Nick: Literally, bruh. they get I like with with the blade night that we got in Marvel Zombies last year, I was like, please give me more. Give me more. this he's tough. So I'm glad I'm know, I'm glad it seems like seems like that's what they're gonna Julz: It was pretty sick. Especially like the Mar how Marvel Rivals took his his little the conshoe sort thing. Yeah, like yes, Nick: the MVP, that job is tough. That job is tough. Julz: it's it's easily the only skin man I'll be wearing. Easily. Nick: No, literally. That's I don't even I don't play Blade like that no more, but when I do, I'm rocking that blade night. But next up, Marvel has officially confirmed after you know, we've kinda heard the rumblings on the street the past couple of weeks, that Daredevil Born Again will end with season three next year. Charlie Cox, Kristen Ritter, and Finn Jones all appeared together on stage. Mike Coulter is also returning as Luke Cage, but was not Julz: Ooh. Nick: was not there on stage with them. but that you said what? Julz: We're gonna get Danny? Are we getting Danny? Nick: Yep. Yep. 'Cause yeah, that's who Finn Jones is. that but Julz: Yeah. Nick: that them them all the rest of them appearing confirms that we're getting the defenders reunion. Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, in Daredevil Born Again Season Three. So they showed some early footage that reportedly placed Matt Murdoch in prison after publicly exposing himself as Daredevil at the end of season two, with Kingpin and Bullseye still central to the story. So I'm I mean, obviously Julz: I'm always here to see Kingpin. Nick: Facts, facts. I don't care what people are saying. People are saying, you know, how long is this Matt Kingflick King flick Kingpin conflict gonna go on for? Like they've been going at each other for six seasons now. I don't care. You know? You feel me? Yeah, bruh. Julz: That's literally his main bad guy. Like one of them. Nick: Like as long as y'all keep feeding this to me in a way that's like, you know, in a way that's we would that we get like good action. Julz: We're basically gonna get what we got with the defenders. Nick: What do you mean? Julz: Iron Fist and also I I guess Marvel Rivals makes me want to think of Danny in a different, being someone else. But I think I I think that just because I have not seen Iron Fist. So I don't know if he ever went there, if he ever was like, because like I'm sorry, the dragon is not here in America. I don't care what you want to tell me, it ain't here. Nick: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Julz: So Nick: Thanks. Julz: that's just not how that ever worked. So like I don't know how they're gonna do that. So like like if he's Nick: yeah, I don't know. But Julz: like if they if they're like, yeah, I was captured by the fist and you know this and that and this is how I got this, like, all right, like, all right, that makes sense. But like, you know, I I can I can let them do that. I will not by for any ch for by any means accept him getting the dragon power somewhere in like the sewers of New York or some bull crap like that. If that Nick: no. He in the in the in the show he went through the whole he was on Kunlan and shit. and like that's like he Yeah, no, like he yeah, Julz: Okay, that's what I was gonna say. He had to be there, right? Like he could not have been not there. Nick: he he learned the way of the iron fist and shit, but like I think it was b the way he got to cut yeah, that's how they I this is like one of the only things I remember from the show, but they he got to Kunlan because he was like his parents were like rich and like you know, like like millionaires, billionaires or whatever. They were going they were on an overseas flight to some somewhere and the plane crashed and so both his parents died and he ended up like I don't I I don't know how he survived the crash or how he ended up with these with you know, with these like ni the ninjas or whatever the hell, but like he No, Julz: Don't don't tell me he wakes up in the ninja's custody. Nick: I don't know. It's not it wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. But Julz: Okay. Nick: like they they found him and then they you know, they train him and keep him there for like lit literally, I think until he's like an adult. and And then he comes back to New York. Julz: Okay, so they basically basically did. Nick: yeah. And then but then he comes back to New York and he's like after, learning the way of the Iron Fist and everything. And he's trying to take his parents' company back because technically it's his, even though Julz: Yeah. Nick: the people running it now are like his two like two of his friends from childhood that like was his parents were like cool with their parents and everything. Cause I guess they worked with, you know, they worked at the company. And so it's like that's that's how it yeah, I it's I Julz: What? Nick: don't know. I don't know. Julz: What? What? Nick: I would have rather gotten I would have rather gotten the are the the OG Iron Fist. the one in rivals for real, for real. But that's the that's what we got. I I don't know. It's gonna be interesting to see if they can make because I haven't seen Defenders Julz: It's all right, man. We'll take it. Nick: yet, but I hear he's more likable in Defenders than he is in his own show. So hopefully they can still bring that back you know, for the the reunion. Julz: All right, well. Because it's basically like, yeah, trust fund baby crashes, get gains power of Iron Fist. I'm sorry. Why do we need why does the billion the millionaire Nick: No no no I mean no no no he didn't he it's not like he Julz: company, the billionaire have to need why does he need to he ain't Bruce Wayne? Nick: I don't know. I don't know. But I th I in terms of the two d different iron fists, I think that's close to Danny Rand's story in the comics. I don't know if it's exactly like that, but Julz: Okay. then I I'm gonna have to check now. Now we have to now I need now I'm committed. Continue with the with Nick: No, yeah, I've got Julz: this stuff and I'll I'll I'll report. Nick: Okay, but 'cause our yeah, now I'm curious too. okay, so yeah, just yeah, and then the last few things that we got from the Marvel TV and animation panel was just that we got they got the first look at your friendly neighborhood Spider Man season two. we got a poster that was released to the public. it releases January thirteenth and it is officially confirms that we'll he'll be getting the s symbiote suit in season two. So That that was on the poster, it looks Julz: It's good. Nick: really cool. We haven't seen anything in terms of clips yet though. So Julz: kinda I think is gonna be that's that's pretty good because his I really like his Spider Man. Put it like that. I really like it. I thought he's like he's exactly like how what we would thought of Peter Parker as a kid and all that. Like it all Nick: Right. Yeah. Yeah. Julz: makes sense. Okay, I got it. Are you ready? Nick: Yeah, let's hear it. Julz: Danny Rand's original Iron Fist story is a revenge quest that becomes a choice about what kind of man he wants to be. So his his family searches for Kunlun. Nine year old Danny accompanies his parents, Wendell and Heather Ran, and Wendell's business partner, Harold Mat Meechum, into the Himalayas to find the mystical city. Meechum betrays Wendell and causes his death. His mother dies protecting him. Heather sacrifices herself when wolves attack when wolves attack, following Danny to survive and reach Kunlun. Danny trains to become a weapon. He spends the next decade mastering martial arts with revenge against Meechum, driving him to earn the Iron Fist. He faces Sholo, the Undying, a dragon. The battle burns the emblem the dragon emblem into his chest. Plunging his fist into the dragon's molten heart gives him the power of the iron fist. This part of his origin appears in Marvel premiere number 16. He returns to New York and chooses mercy. Danny Lee finally confronts Meechum but finds a physically diminished man. And spares him. That is the key character moment. He has spent years preparing to kill someone, then decides not to. Nick: Yeah. I see, I see. So not exactly Julz: So Nick: the same, but kinda there's some similarities. Julz: Yeah, there wasn't like they were looking for Kun his parents died. He became a weapon to avenge his parents. So not the quite the same because like he's going back to he returned to New York to take back the company, not to go ahead and take dude out who killed his dad because it wasn't a it was an accident. He just wants the company back. Which makes him Nick: Mm-hmm. True, true. Julz: which makes it a lot better because or this one makes it a lot better, the first one because, you know. There's a he's choosing there's a moral compass there where he's choosing to be a better person, versus let me go back and get this company. Like Nick: Yeah, there's there's a little more to it than that in terms of the company, cause he's a little bit of like Julz: Okay. Nick: cause he he the way he like his di and part of the reason I didn't like the show is cause his dynamic with everybody else, it's like he's like almost like a newborn not like a newborn baby, but he it's like he's a kid still. And so he's like he's an adult after spending all the ten years in Kunlan after the plane crash or whatever, and then he's like talking to all his old friends who are now also adults and shit and but they're like, in this business world running the business and everything. But he's still talking you can just give me the company, right? what do you mean? who my parents were. Like he's just very like naive. He's very Julz: Naive. Nick: naive. Yeah. Way too naive. And it's just like it Julz: Okay. Nick: it makes everything else in the show just kind of like, like but so it's not like he's Julz: That's interesting. That's interesting. Nick: he wants the company because he's like, you know selfish and he wants money and whatever. It's just like he's just it's just a weird a weird characterization. Julz: Interesting. And then we had our first look at X Men ninety seven, right? Nick: yeah, I don't know exactly what they showed. I just know Deadpool was in it. so yeah, and I think Rogan Gambit were getting married. Julz: so we're gonna that doesn't seem like we're gonna have a a great Marvel there's no Marvel Rivals official trailer, I guess. Or not Marvel Rivals, X Men ninety seven. Nick: yeah, no no no. Yeah no yeah. yeah, no there wasn't. Julz: So but that's okay. It's all right for those listening or watching. whenever we do get that, you can come back and check and we'll find it. Emergency Awesome. his video was pretty good. He just he looped in, you know, a bunch of the stuff that we've seen from the season two. you know, we stopped on the Creed for President thing, which is Nightcrawler's brother, Mystique son. And Nick: Mm. Yep. Julz: so we'll see how that goes. 'Cause last we seen was Nightcrawler left him in somewhere in the middle of the snow. Don't know where, but somewhere not not warm. Nick: But yeah, but we heard it we we know he made it back, shit, at least. So damn. I was ki part of Julz: We do, we we do. Nick: me was kinda like, is he just gonna die out here? Is is that how his story ends? Julz: I hoped he did. It just was a long walk, I guess. An uncomfortable walk. Nick: Damn, yep, for real. And now the moment you've all been waiting for. We're talking Vision Quest, baby. Julz: So if you have not left yet, if you haven't seen it, this is where it'll be spoiled. Spoilers alert. Spoilers alert. Official official spoiler alert. Nick: Spoiler alert. So if you haven't watched, pause, go watch, come back, press play. We good. But boy, boy, what did you think? Before we you know recap everything and stuff, what did you think of these first two episodes, Jewel? Julz: I thought these first two episodes were great. you know, we are like watching and seeing him his him trying to find his humanity. And I thought that was such a really good way to start Nick: Yep. Julz: it, especially with all of the debate we have right now about AI. If AI is good, if AI Nick: Mm-hmm. Julz: is bad, what will it do? Is it us that's killing us or ourselves? Is it us that's building the destruction? Or is it our salvation? And I think that they're playing along w to that, to that theme throughout this show so far. Because there's a lot of points in the show where when he's in his mindscape or mind space and he's reading or something, and it's like what he's reading, it's like, yeah, no, he's trying to find and figure out moral or his feelings because obviously Episode one showed us that he don't have a problem with killing, put it like that. Nick: Hell na. My boy Viz it he said when he I'm sorry, this is one of those line deliver when he says this, I think he might have said it in in in in early in episode too, but because we we hear characters say this line a lot, but it it didn't hit us hard until Vision said it. He said, That ain't the same I'm not the same person I used to be. Julz: I am not the same vision. Nick: I'm not I was like, you're damn right. Right and this is right after he just he vaporized one of the one of those henchmen, bruh. Was working for for for Paladin. I was like, bro, what? Is this TV 14? Is it? It but that's what it that's I think that's what is rated for real. Julz: It was not because why did you send us here? Nick: Bro, bro, bro. Like that was my god, vision was getting swifty. He was getting active. And Julz: I'm not even gonna lie, it was it was wild to see such a thing. Because I was like, after the first two, I was like, I don't Think he's getting up. Nick: No no. No. No. And then Julz: Like he went head first into a super scorpion. where his his feet touched the back of his head. Nick: For real. And it's like honest, when you really think about it, it's like obviously vision, vision against any normal human that's not in hands and using normal weapons. We know how that's gonna go. But the our old the vision that we're you we're used to, our uncle Vishon, he would never do something like that. He Julz: Pashaun is crazy. Nick: would never do something like that. Julz: And what's so funny is that he could have phased and just let them but their bullets pass through him. He don't he Nick: Bro, that's what I'm saying, bruh. F phasing phasing could solve so many problems, bro. Phasing could but I guess actually it could start problems too, 'cause what? Then bullet's gonna go through you and hit something else, I I guess. So Julz: I mean they already and they killed his friend, so I really did get his anger, Nick: man. Julz: which was so messed up. Because like I was like, Yeah, man, Nick: That was so messed up, bro. Julz: go go go go to the dinner, you wee old odd duck. I was here for that. And then yeah. Nick: I was ready for him to go to the dinner to the roast and see what w what was going on. I thought it was g we were gonna get some funny Julz: Right. Like I was like w w what he can't eat I guess I wonder if he can eat in real life, or if he can drink wine or something. What is it gonna do? Nick: No, right, right, right. man. But they they didn't they took they took her away. They took her away, bruh. my god. And like she just you know, she just wanted to be a good friend. Like she just wanted to be be there for him. Like to cause you, Julz: Literally. Nick: you know, she she clocked he was a weirdo. He was a little a little a little different. So she wanted to, you know, invite him out and everything, but damn. Unf okay, so like, you know, let's let's officially go into our recap real quick. So, you know, we episode one, we see vision. rebooted and in hiding after the events of Wandavision. where i i if you've seen Wandavision, you already know I'm not gonna get into that. But by day he works as a bartender at a bar him and Wanda used to go to. And by night he resides in a minescape he's made within his programming where he houses and consults Friday, Jarvis, Edith, Dummy, you, and Ultron. Julz: Mm-hmm. Nick: so let's start there, I guess. Let's start with the whole like Julz: So I thought Nick: Mindscape. Julz: I thought the introduction was great of all the people like dummy you and then it was like you know maintenance this that and then it was like Friday Yes it kills me because they can't they can't Nick: And the fact that they don't talk kills me. No, they literally they can't and I was like with just in the trailers built leading up, I was like, what are they gonna sound like? Like I wonder if they're gonna like and but it but it's perfect that that they don't Julz: No, they they did exactly what they're supposed to do. And it's super funny because it was almost like they told them 'cause whenever Jarvis is like, We all have jobs, like maintenance, and they were just standing there and then they just To just see them turn and start hammering the the sink thing. It was just like, Nick: Yeah. Yeah. Julz: that is hilarious. So I I thought that was funny. I thought Edith being the fun one was really funny as well. Friday being the socialization, Jarvis being security and everything else. Like, Nick: Yeah. Julz: I thought all that was really good. And then Nick: I didn't get the the Edith one at first. I I get it because he she was technically worn by like a teenager and like I you I th I I I saw some people talking about that. But like I don't know. I thought that she would be less like goofy and more like tactical, I guess. And I and I guess a lot of most of them are tactical. Julz: See, I think we have to see. Well, she is tactical. She did she came up with a plan. So I guess it depends Nick: She did. Julz: on like what his situation. Nick: Yeah, that's facts. That's facts. Julz: Because we're basically gonna see them in his head talking about it and getting it getting the stuff done. But like now that Nick: Yeah. Julz: Jarvis is gone and then that ha they had that whole brother connection. He's like, I am the old brother. I was programmed Nick: that him and Jarvis were bro yep. Yep. Literally. 'Cause like Julz: longer than or or yeah, longer longer ago than you. So I I thought that was really good. Nick: Yeah, and you're but like you both they yeah, but they both technically come from the same makerslash codes, know, so it's like they are brothers. Like they really are. And I guess in Julz: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. They are they are. And I guess Ultron's technically their older brother. Or no. Vision no Jarvis is the oldest. Ultron is just the the bad brother. The the the d he's the black sheep. Nick: He's the but he's also he's also technically the father because he cr was creating vision Julz: Vision technically though. Nick: for himself. so it's yeah, it's tricky. It's tricky. And I get no no because I think it at least how they see it, I think Ultron looks at vision like his son a little bit because like I think he said the thing in episode one about he had a qu Ultron said, damn. Julz: Why do you keep me around? Papa? Nick: yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. That was good. That was good. That was good. That was good. So Julz: look, is that's James Spader, right? Nick: Yeah, yeah. Julz: Yeah, doesn't he play Redding Redmitt Reddington? Nick: In what? yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't seen all I haven't Julz: Blacklist. The blacklist. I'm gonna have to tell my dad that. Nick: s yeah, I haven't seen Blacklist like that. But I know I know he's in Blacklist and I know he plays a kind of similar vibe character, in terms of like his his his tone and everything. Julz: Yeah, no, it's it's it's the voice is basically the same. He doesn't change, and it's like it's pretty funny. But w what I thought was really geeky was that Ultron being frustrated with the delivery people. And he was like, I hate Nick: my god. Julz: how you've why couldn't you have made it better? He's like, you know Nick: literally. Julz: what? Actually I will tip. Threw coin at her as or a coin or something. I I thought that was hilarious. Nick: Bruh, Ultron for me, it le probably in the fur it's not like his performance dipped in the second episode. He was just in it less because we got more Tommy and stuff. But Ultron for me in episode one was like the scene stealer MVP. every t literally any time he opened his mouth to say something to to anybody or to react to something, I was I was just like like bro, he's so he doesn't he's so smug, he's so but he's so like smart and he's so able to like lay things out for you in a I mean, he's manipulative. Lee like, you he's a bad guy. We know this. And he he lays things out in a way that like Julz: He is. He's he's ol he's extremely smart. So it's not like he's Nick: Yeah, yeah. Julz: also an AI. he can he's as smart as Vision, can think as fast as Vision. He's just they're just housed in Vision's brain. Nick: Yeah, and it's less humanity, but like I guess white vision now doesn't have the same humanity that that the old vision had. And I like that they made the they pointed out that the reason and I guess the I mean this could this is probably kinda obvious, but I just like that they pointed it out. But that the reason that vision w was like that and like so like had such a strong sense of humanity was because of Wanda. Julz: because the s and and then Tony and Banner had he was 'cause they they were his guides. Nick: yeah. Yeah, but I think wan but Wanda I feel like made him gave him his heart. You know what I'm it like so yeah, yeah. And then yeah Yeah. Julz: Yes. I think I agree. I agree there. He showed him why life was important or could be important. Nick: Exactly. Exactly, exactly. But Julz: 'Cause he loved her. So Nick: yeah, like and we we didn't even think we didn't even think a machine could could love like that. And okay, I guess I'll I'll ask that question later on. but then w you know, we we find out that a bounty placed by an unknown character, is put on Vision's head and Nicki is now forced to be on kinda on the run with Thomas Shepherd, who could could be at least by the end of episode one, we don't know Julz: What if it was Doom? Nick: You said what? chill. Chill, chill, chill. If it Julz: So what if it was Doom? And we got like a Doom cameo. Nick: if it was I mean, sh nobody would nobody would be ready for that. Nobody would be ready for that. Like I don't even Julz: Like he's come becoming a collector, except he s he sends the witch of Latvaria. Nick: Ooh okay, okay, okay, okay. I don't think low chance of it happening. My favorite possible outcome probably. Like that like if like that would be how sick would that be if like at the very end of the show Wanda pulls up or something or whatever, like it makes sense with what's going on. Julz: To bring him the humanity but for doom side. Nick: man. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Julz: Those are those are one of my fun theories. It's what's a fun theory. Nick: But that now that would be fun. That would be fun. but yeah, so now vision is left kind of having to figure out, is this dude is this kid my son? Like the and like what am I gonna do about this bounty on my head because I don't even know who put it out there. But we do know that Ultra. Julz: Yeah, like I just got my friend killed. He was gonna put himself offline for indefinite time and just turn offline for a bit. And then Paladin Nick: no, yeah, yeah, yep, yep. He was literally thinking about it. Julz: hit him with the the the signal only he can hear or get or be contacted through. And then after that, he he showed up to back to the bar, laid the law down on him, and then went in one door break his son out. Nick: That was a crazy scene. That was a crazy that was a crazy scene, bruh. I'm not gonna lie. Julz: When he picked him when he drunk the the whiskey or whatever he was drinking, his eyes lit up and then he was like Nick: Bruh. And just the whole the whole way that he was like carrying himself was like again just that opposite of the vision that we know and love. Like Yeah, yeah, he was sitting bro you No, yeah, he's in the Yeah, you Julz: Like very cold and calculated, like a machine. Like, I will end you. Like you made a grave error. Nick: you you invited me here under the guise that I care about this child that you that I that you think is my son. First of all, if it were possible that I would have a son, I still wouldn't care because I'm a cold Unfeeling robot. But I don't it bro, it's just it's I was like, dude, from vision right now, just before he or right after he vaporizes so bro, bro. Or no no, it was before I guess because Yeah, it was before, but yeah. But my god. Julz: Yes. No, it was well he was he was vaporized with people in beginning of that episode. So But then we have then we get our episode thesis after you know, after we figure out Tommy is alive, he's with you know, they take him back to that sanitarium, which is not a place you wanna go. Nick: yeah. yeah. Let's talk about Tommy. Tommy's backstory a little bit because that was w probably one of my favorite parts of this episode. Julz: he was I thought he was really good. I think that Nick: Yeah, he's a like great performance. Julz: yeah. Personally, very, very, very well done. Because it's like Nick: Mm-hmm. Julz: he like his when he was explaining his mental break at the in that psych video, that was a really well done acted scene because it was like you can he was really I felt the pain and the confusion from everything. And then he just needs someone to help guide him, which is why I think his son might be one who teaches him humanity. Now he might try to get his son to be morally better because Jarvis helped him be morally good in that way. So like we'll see how that works. But I think that, you know, Nick: And isn't Julz: gut. Nick: No, no, no, you go first. You go first. Julz: I was gonna say I think that him us him having control of his powers in moments of like he's fearing for his life or fearing for his safety is very convenient, it's very nice. And I think that that sense of urgency somehow might be a way to trigger it. I just don't know how he what how he's gonna do that. So I I think but that th it's a good thing Nick: I see. Julz: though that they went they did it that way. And I think he he's gonna be a very, very He'll be a very ca good character in the coming movies and what's to come because once they let him off the chain and let him around run around the world, I like he can traverse the world and probably as fast as the flashes, I what I would assume. Or similar speeds. Nick: Yeah, yeah. Similar speed for sure. Yeah. No, yeah, the Flash Julz: So the the flash is faster, I would probably say though. The flash Nick: is definitely faster, but 'cause like just just 'cause the way that they do speedster stuff in the DCU is like just different because like they have the speed force and all this stuff and that can grant Julz: Right. Nick: you all these different abilities and things like that. But I like how they're like sho th they're like kinda easing us into his powers though. Like just we start with the you know, with the vibrating hands and like I don't know, I don't know what's gonna come next. Is he just gonna like try to run and then boom end up two miles down Julz: Right, he just takes off. Nick: the road. Yeah, or is it or i or is it gonna be like another body part that just or like he just keeps vibrating or I don't know. I don't know. But Julz: What if he can phase do the phase through ball thing and he like falls through? Nick: He better be able to. Because think about it. If vision can, he better be able to. Because that's think about it. Obviously vision isn't like didn't literally give him his superpower of speed. He probab he gets that from his uncle. But at the same time, vision half of his shit is phasing. So it's like if anything, he w he's smart enough to be able to use the science to be like, okay, if you move your if you move your molecules fast enough, you can you can fucking phase. So like I I I think I I think we should Julz: If you vibrate fast enough. I think vision might Nick: Yeah, literally. Julz: even help him unlock his powers better. So he can safely like protect himself. Nick: Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. Julz: Kind of like in a Magneto-esque way. Also, we could have gotten Magneto so much sooner if they wanted to bring in Scarlet Witch. Just gonna say that. Like, why are we gonna bring in his kids Nick: Hmm. Julz: and then be like, nah, actually, they just died in the in the meteor we dropped on Sokovia? Okay. Go, go, go ahead. Go go all the way the head because I'm sorry. Nick: I mean, okay. Cause okay, but here's the the th the thing with the magneto thing. Julz: Or it could have been Lat Varia. Nick: No, it could've it could have been. It could've been. But I'm still I'm still working my way through the whole Julz: Is it lap area after? it becomes a Lat Varia after the Sokovia is then. Nick: see that that's one of those things that I feel like they could have been done since like the Sokovia shit and like Julz: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nick: why not? Like why the like why I don't know. It would have made sense. It would have made sense. But Julz: It have made it made great sense. But other overall though that that the second episode was very good. we get our next two episodes, the twenty first of October. So roughly six days. Everybody tune in. That's Wednesday for next week, if you're wondering. Nick: Mm-hmm. Julz: And my MVP of the week, Nick, would be would have to be Carrie and Vision Quest. I'm not gonna lie. And The final score on both of those, I'll give my score for carry a 10. Maybe a nine bec Nick: Ten out of ten. Julz: yeah, 10 out of 10 to a nine if we can get season two. And for vision quest, we're at a ten and solid ten. I'm I'm it'll it could have broke the scale. we must talk about the last thing on Vision Quest that happened. This brought a tear to my eye to say when when Vision was severely injured, taking a lot of damage in his fight because of Adamantian rounds. That the paladin had. Nick: Bro, we didn't even talk. my god. Adamantium Julz: Dude. Nick: rounds, bro. Julz: Dude, they brought Adamantian in in like with with the celestial body. But they've already so this already like Nick: Yep. Julz: it's canon. But the fact of the matter is that we're he's using it to to strip away and destroy vibranium. Come on. And now I I was surprised. I wasn't mad about Nick: Bro, bro, bro. Ever s Julz: it. I was more so like I hope everybody else isn't pissed. Nick: ever since I I I knew that both vibranium and adamantium were a thing, I needed to see them go head to head on screen. Like that like I've literally Julz: Yes. Yes. And this was it. Nick: been wondering about that since like, so who like who Julz: wonder if he has the adamantium suit put palette. Nick: Ooh. That would be bro, that would be too shisty. That would be too shisty. He because I get Yeah, I get it. He's Julz: I mean he is a nice Templar, he could yeah he could. Nick: like I the whole paladin thing about the paladin you know mantle being like passed down through generations and everything, and it's just like somebody who gets the job done, like they'll they'll track they'll hunt you, track you, bring you in dead or cold, or mean dead or alive, and it's like I respect it, but like live or yeah. Julz: Alive or cold? Bring you in alive or to bring you in cold. Nick: I can bring you a morm or I can bring you a Julz: There it is. That's what it is. Din jarring. Nick: Classic. Classic. but but yeah, but but the Adamantium rounds just just opening holes in vision like that, I was like, chill, chill. Julz: No, real literally opening holes. So that was cool to see. especially like we got to see Vision bleed his blue fluid or a coolant, I'll probably call it. I was like, what is that? Your Nick: Yeah, that was that was interesting. Julz: coolant brother? Nick: No, literally, bro. Literally. That was that was very interesting. But Julz: Yeah. Nick: but yeah. but yeah, last thing okay, yeah. Last thing I want to talk about just about episode two before because it goes into the thing that I saw in the trailer that I was talking about earlier that I was Julz: Yeah. Nick: like when we were watching okay, so the Tom we see Tommy and like his whole origin story with with the girl with the shorty, right? Julz: Mm-hmm. Nick: on the bus. And the they they break off the bus, whatever, and then Paladin kidnaps him and brings him back and then and then we don't know where Shorty is right now. in the tra Julz: Mm-hmm. Nick: which I I love their relationship by the way. Like I love their dynamic. They like like I feel like that scene where they were on the bus together like really like you could actually see like their connection building in a natural way. And I thought that was really nice. But In the trailer that we just saw when we were watching the the other trailer and the Vision Quest thing came on, Tommy's shorty Julz: Mm-hmm. Nick: had her eyes starting to glow red as if she was being like she was like turning Julz: Dream walked into Nick: y like no no no no like as if she was like a cyborg or a robot or some shit. Julz: I don't think I peeped that. Nick: L it it was just there for a second and I was like okay, but I didn't clog it before because I didn't know who she was until I watched the episodes. So I was like, Whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, not Julz: Wait. Nick: not her, not her but okay, but now that I'm thinking, but now that I'm saying it, it could just be like another like say Ultron were to get out or something like that. It could I mean, but I guess Ultron can't do that. Vision can do that. Like Ultron can't just turn into a human like Vision can, right? Yeah, so I guess so I guess yeah. Mmm. 'Cause I was like, what if it's just another another android just disguising themselves as her and then turning in back into an android? But that wouldn't I don't vision's the only one that can do that. Julz: No, I think she she would be more different. It would have to be more or less like she couldn't be the reincarnate. That'd be weird. I don't know. Nick: Well, we know that we're getting Jacosta, which is like the female Ultron. So that's my best guess. And maybe she's upgraded so she can do that and Ultron can't. But maybe I don't know. I don't know. That's my best guess at this point. But I just I don't want Julz: Mm, mmm. Okay. Okay. Nick: anything to happen to her because I because of I I Julz: Jacosta Pim 'cause she's Pim Tech. Nick: Yeah, no, yeah. She's she's she's made to look like Janet Van Dyne. Or she may probably not in the show because that's used that's off the Julz: Yeah, because that's yeah. Nick: yeah, 'cause Hank Penn didn't create Ultron in in in in the the MCU, but Julz: Right. Nick: but yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Julz: Mm. Okay. You know what? I was gonna say what if it was Friday, but it would make more sense to be Friday to like that like because it's Tony's assistant operating through wait. Yeah, he was Jacasa's was one of Tony's closest technological assistants. So she monitored his armor, provided tactical information. Nick: Is this in the comics or in the d MCU? Julz: Friday. Comics. Nick: Hmm. Cause we I don't think we've heard Jakasa's name in the MCU yet. So like I'm interested to see Julz: Well, it would have to be like Nick: what her ordin Julz: right. they would have to make Friday turn into Jacosta. Ultron made Friday into into Jacosta. th if if it was gonna stick to being lore accurate, Jacosta has w is one of monitored Tony Stark's armor. So that would be Friday. So it would be her turning him turning Friday or or Edith into Jacosta. Nick: I'm pissed for two reasons. Reason one, I don't want I don't want to lose Edith or Friday. I Julz: Right. Nick: don't want him I don't want him to drink the Kool-Aid. Reason two, I'm mad I didn't come up with that shit myself, goddammit. Cause that's that's that is a good I like that and I think that makes perfect sense to me. Like I could I got no notes. I got no notes on that theory. So I think Julz: So you heard it here first guys, if we get a Jakasa Friday. Nick: but wait, the only thing that doesn't make sense in that is that the actress that behind the scenes stuff, the actress that is playing Jacosta, I know is different from both the actresses that are playing Edith and Friday. the actress that Julz: Okay. Nick: plays Jacosta is black. So I don't know how like Julz: Maybe she changes and that's what she changes into. Nick: No no no, and yeah, she could. It's still on the table for sure. It's just that just makes it a little less like Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Julz: We're gonna have to figure this out, cause this is the bride of Ultron. Like Jacasa's the bride of Ultron. So we'll see how this Frankenstein situation ends. Which I like that Nick: Yeah. Julz: kind of aspect of it. This given that. Like, you know, like Visions the Dr. Frankenstein in this sense, and Ultron's the monster. He wants and then eventually he wants a bride since I'm gonna be stuck up in here. Let talk to someone. Or maybe Nick: Mm-hmm. Julz: I don't know. We'll see how that goes because He 'cause vision did strip Ultron of all his pretty much autonomy, took the couch away and everything. Nick: Yep. that was crazy. That was crazy. Took his chair yeah, took Julz: That shit was hilarious. Nick: the chairs, chairs, couch, art, all that stuff. Crazy. Julz: Crazy. But Nick, Nick: But Julz: do you got anything you're excited about else anything else you're excited about? Nick: what am I excited about? I'm excited about I saw your mother, your mother, your mother finally. We've been talking about on the show for a minute now, finally got to see it, and man, that was probably one of my favorite movies of the year. No cap. Like I no type of yeah, cause like Julz: Okay. I'll be coming to s I'll be going to see it soon. I c I wanna see Wellfall today and then I wanna go see S your mother, your mother, your mother this weekend probably. Nick: Yeah, I'd say that's probably yeah, that's that should be the next priority on your list after Whalefall just because like Julz: Yeah. Nick: it was just and go because w just cause we know the Mahersha Lolly sword blade background of it all, like Julz: Right. Right. Nick: I was kind of going into it expecting there to be more action, but then the whole time I'm watching it, I'm like, Okay, the action doesn't even need to really be like I almost forget that this dude is like Julz: Right. Nick: like okay, like they you don't I mean they they They don't make you forget that he's in a a hitman because like it's part of the one of the like c kind of part of the theme of the story. But like there with with the lack of action, you're kind of just like, like I was you know, I would have expected more until the action does come like toward the end and you're like, And just like just all the like it's a very religious movie, but you don't get beat over their head with with religion. So like it's you Julz: Yes. Right. Nick: know, it's not like it's very digestible, I think, and it's very like Julz: Okay. Nick: And it makes sense. so but so yeah, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna leave it at that. Not a bad performance in the movie. yeah, shout out to the the act the young actress that played I don't I don't I'm I don't know, I know what I'm I don't even know how old she is, but the actress that played Mahershal Ali's daughter, her his oldest daughter, shout out to her, she was great, and his the one that played his son as well. Both of them kids were shining. So yeah, but that's great. Julz: Okay, okay, okay. Nick: And then also watched the first three episodes of Avatar's seven. Havens, which I know you have too, and I'm loving it. I'm loving it. I'm loving it. I love how they're expanding. Julz: Yeah, we'll give we'll give everybody more about more of those, more of that whenever, you know, 'cause then we'll have like what, six or something, eight episodes under our belts by the next week. So 'cause they came out with all of it, right? Nick: No, they came out with the first three. Yeah, first three. I think they're doing batches. Julz: so it's weekly. So then after the first three, are they doing f three, three? All right. So then we'll get our next three next week. And then yeah. So and then tonight well fall comes out today. So I'm gonna go see it probably around ten. If you guys wanna go see Nick: Yes, sir. Julz: yeah, please go see it. It's looked amazing. I will be updating you guys next week on my score and what I feel and how I feel about it. So stay tuned. Come back and check. And that wraps up another episode of the concession stand. Let us know what you thought and about everything we talk about today and what you're watching or looking forward to next. And be sure to like, subscribe, and follow the show so you don't miss the next episode. Or but until next time, grab a refill and meet us back at the concession stand. Nick: Peace.