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Angel Numbers Explained: Why You Keep Seeing 1111, 444 & 555 | Billy Carson · 4biddenknowledge Podcast

• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: Billy's back.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yay.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: Billy's my friend.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: And it is always so much fun.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_01: When I when I can catch him, let's just get to the heart of the matter.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: Here's why.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, look, you can talk about so many different things and you do so with such eloquence and authority.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_01: But here's something that you and I have not talked about.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: And that is what's sitting right behind you, 1111 numbers.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_01: I want to get into numbers, Billy.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_01: I want to get into, excuse me, this idea that there is an uptick is what I've been saying in people noticing number patterns repeating.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: This has been going on for a long time, but clearly it is exponential at this point.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I want to dig in, get your perspective as to what you think may be going on here.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: And that would include the history and the symbology of numbers.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: So but let me quote what you said, and then we'll take off from there, Billy.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: You say within numerology, angel numbers are number sequences, usually three or four numbers, that contain repetition, such as 111 or 444, and or a pattern such as 321 or 8787.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: Although they may appear in the most ordinary places, these digits usually grab our attention and even if only for a moment, evoke a sense of wonder.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_01: The reason we're enchanted by these sequences, however, is an extension of their symbolism.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_01: It is believed that these numbers are messages from the spiritual universe that offer insight, wisdom, and directionality.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_01: Whether you assign them to angels, guides, ancestors, spirits, or simply a higher state of your own consciousness, angel numbers can confirm you're on the right path, shed invaluable insight on a complicated situation, or even illuminate the powerful mystical meaning behind recurring themes you experience throughout your life.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: You said a lot there.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: You said a lot there.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: Let's start with this.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: This term angel numbers.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I have to be really frank.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_01: That term has always been a little like, eh, angel numbers is that what they are.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_01: And particularly coming from you, where you are so technical, you're like really into the right uh the core behind a certain image or idea.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_01: What is your when you say angel numbers, what do you mean by that in this regard?
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's a great question.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people have called them angel numbers.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_02: So if I start calling them something else, they won't know what I'm talking about.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and so sometimes you get you reach people where they are.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: So when they see angel numbers, they go, Oh, he's scared me to talk about the numbers, you know.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_02: And so, in my personal opinion, it's um angels are really angles, angles of light.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we know that there are higher dimensions that that exist in 90-degree angles above one another, and there are multiple dimensions going all the way up.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_02: We know this universe consists of a minimum of at least 11 uh dimensions, and all those are in angles or angels of one another, according to quantum physics.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_02: So the term angels, angel numbers is a kind of a play on the angles, just because when you take it into the more uh, I guess, the realm of where people like consider themselves to be psychics and other things like they use the term angels, religious people use the term angels.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's a more attractive term to those people or the masses.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_02: But um, you know, I'm taking the opportunity to just get the information in front of people when I say angel numbers.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't believe that I uh, you know, don't believe that there's higher beings and higher dimensions.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_02: I just particularly don't call them angels, I think that there's something else.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_01: Angels, angles.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: Is there some actual derivative there that that uh is there some basis there?
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's very interesting because it does sound very, yeah.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_01: The English language is fascinating when you really dig into the actual meaning.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, when you go into some of the ancient tablets, you discover that the ancient Sumerians were talking about these angles of light that came down.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_02: So when you go into the ancient Sumerian tablets, you discover that these the Sumerians were talking about these angles, angles of light that were coming down and that were interacting with them.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_02: And then these later, these those those angles of light later became known as angels, and they made it into the Bible as angels.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_02: And these angles of light were these beings that supposedly were coming uh from heaven to earth.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_02: And in the in the Atrahasis epic and in the Enuma Elish, they're known as Anunnaki, which means those who from heaven to earth came.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_02: And so, from the perspective of a human being back then, anything that came from outside the earth was spiritual, was God, you know, was from the creator.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_02: And so uh over time, as people became more and more religious, because these beings influenced religion, they then became angels and they had wings.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_02: If you look at the Sumerian depictions, which I'm sure you can show some photos, I'll have some for you.
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  SPEAKER_02: You'll see depictions of these beings with wings on their backs.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_02: And what do you see in modern-day angels?
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_02: They all have wings on their backs.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well, these wings are derivatives of the ancient Sumerian carvings that's been found now that are thousands of years old.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_01: So I want to stick with this angle thing, uh, because this is really important.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_01: You've now infused a whole other level of meaning to uh angle and numbers.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're talking about math.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: We're talking about math.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: I want to read a quote from a quote from Pythagoras.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: You always wonder if it actually came from, said to have come from Pythagoras, the father of mathematics, who said, and this is powerful, it's very short.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: Number is the within of all things.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: He didn't say numbers, he said number number single is the within of all things.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_01: Let's take that concept, one number, singular, not plural.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: Let's say you're seeing one, two, three, four as an example.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: I know a lot of people see that pattern.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: And you were to add one, two, three, four up all the way down to the lowest common denominator, the single digit, you get one within one or within numerology, one denotes typically new beginnings.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: Is that how I guess I'm starting with a statement, but ending up with a question.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_01: When individuals are seeing number patterns, as Pythagoras said, number is the within of all things.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: Would it be wise for them to take that sequence and pair it down to a single digit?
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts on that?
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I believe that you're pretty accurate with what you're saying.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_02: Your statement was pretty accurate.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_02: We're talking about the understanding that uh there is the numbers come from one source, one multidimensional source, and they stream down through the multidimensional universe down into this third dimension uh as a form of integrated consciousness.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_02: And us being number one is the individuality that we have, but also still being part of the whole.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_02: It gives us the capability of understanding that we ourselves have a certain level of control and understanding over our reality tunnel, but at the same time, collectively, we make up all the numbers.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's just like you have a radio station in your neighborhood that's broadcasting out frequencies, which are digits of numbers, and then you have a radio receiver that's able to pick up, depending on what station you're tuned to, specific digits of numbers to decode the information.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_02: If you imagine that the radio signal being sent out to spirit, and then now take that and convert it into the universal consciousness as being a transmission, each one of our avatar bodies has a capability of picking up a specific numeric frequency from the main source.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: And that frequency that we pick up comes from one source.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's one consciousness, but I'm point one, you're point two, somebody else's 0.3, 0.4, 0.5.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_02: And so we animate this avatar body based on that numerical system that's being streamed out from a higher dimension.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_02: But also the fact that we are living in a mathematical universe.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_02: Mathematic literally explains everything that we see.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_02: Numbers explain everything that we see and experience, including even the dimensions of our body, the way that we break down uh light and everything else, all based on numerical numbers, numerical systems.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: And so what's beginning to happen is people are finally waking up to a certain level, and there's a reason why, which I'm gonna talk about in a second, where they're starting to see a little bit beyond the veil and start to recognize some of the synchronicities that are occurring right around them.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_02: And these synchronicities have been happening for millennia, but up until you know, really now, as we went through a dark age and come back up now into the light, we're now starting to recognize and realize that we're living in a numerical light matrix.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what we're really living in.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's a light matrix based on mathematics.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: And there's a lot of synchronicities where you see these digits of numbers and you can catch them so randomly, even in different time zones, even on your microwave oven.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_02: It can be a game on TV.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_02: I've caught them on basketball games where they're they blow the whistle and the clock for the game, which has nothing to do with a time clock, just the amount of time left on the clock for shooting the basketball is a three-digit, you know, a number.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: Or go into the gas station and seeing your gas.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yesterday my gas was$4.44.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so these things are just showcasing that we are living in a programmed matrix, and these synchronistic numbers expose a little bit of what's going on behind the veil.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_02: And then also you have the capability of tapping into some of these synchronicities.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_02: When you see them, there should be an attention being paid to where you are, who you are, what you're doing at that moment, and what's going on around you, because it could be a message for you to pay a better attention to a situation, for the ability to get more enlightenment, to save yourself from a situation that could be detrimental, or to improve uh someone else's life, maybe become of service to others.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: Opportunities usually arise somewhere around these synchronicities.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: This is really getting to the core, the heart of the matter, Billy.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: What do I do with this?
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: What do these mean?
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: And there is no template meaning, I would imagine.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: How would one start to tap into the significance of their seeing a number pattern?
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: For you, I heard you talk with, and you're gonna have to tell me his full name, King King Simon.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: King Simon, you guys, he is awesome.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm actually gonna put a link that uh Billy did an interview.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, it's on your forbiddenknowledge.tv, which is a fantastic uh repository.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: You need to go over there.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: Great conversation with this gentleman who is a literal king of numbers.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, you in the conversation, I know you talked about four being something that's very close to you.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: When did you notice this?
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: And how have you been able to distill the four meaning in your life, if at all?
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's pretty interesting because I'm born on the fourth, you know, uh September the fourth, and my master number is 44, which is a super powerful number, which I didn't learn this until much later.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_02: But when I got my first numerical reading, uh, the gentleman that was reading me, who had never met me met me before, knew nothing about me.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_02: And this was in the mountains in Jamaica.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: He didn't even have internet, so it couldn't look me up on Instagram or nothing else.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: But some of the things he told me, I had never told anybody.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: Just from my numbers, based on my name.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: He got the number 44 out of my full name with this numerical code that they, you know, these new numerologists know how to break down.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and he started telling me things about my heart.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_02: He said, When you were born, you had a hole in your heart, which is a fact.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_02: I have a heart murmur.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_02: I was born with a heart murmur.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: You know, he knew about my kids and how many kids I had and the type of businesses I've had, and how I'm so structured and how I work and how I'm able to uh multitask and run multiple corporations at the same time.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I've been very successful in how tedious I am.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_02: And he he just laid it all out.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_02: So after that happened, that was years ago, I started paying a lot more attention to the fours.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_02: Now, here's what's interesting I used to see a lot of two, two, twos and three, three, threes.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_02: But once I was brought aware of the four, the number four, and I had awareness brought to that number, I have videos on my Facebook where I would go to uh went to Walmart in the middle of the night random just to pick up some candles, and they were$4.44.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, just stuff, just crazy stuff like that.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, every single day, two or three times a day, I'm seeing 444 somewhere.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_02: And it's pretty interesting that it's my once my attention was brought or my, you know, my awareness is brought to that number, the synchronicity between me and that number in random places all over the world.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I've been around the world five times in 2022, it's everywhere and it's almost in everything.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_02: And when it when I see the number, two things happen for me.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: The first thing is I go, hmm, I'm still in my flow state.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: Because I truly do believe that the synchronicity of me seeing these numbers represents the state of mind that I'm in.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_02: And right now I'm in a super, super flow state.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, people who who know me and have seen where I've gone just in the past five years from there to here, the flow state's been incredible.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_02: My accomplishments have been through the roof uh and and and and going and ongoing.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just steadily moving on this incline.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_02: And so I feel like I'm still in my flow state.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_02: The second thing is I pause and I then I evaluate my current situation.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: And a lot of the times I feel I either remember something and I forgot to do, I see an opportunity to help somebody, or I recognize a situation that if I make a decision either this way or that way, it can be good or it can be bad.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_02: So I now I stop and I pause.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_02: I just don't go, oh, cool, I saw the number again and keep on going.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: I pause and take a moment for self-reflection and see what I can get out of that moment.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: Now, even if it's not having to do directly with the linking of the number or the synchronicity of seeing the number, I think it's great that these numbers, if you really stop and do that, if you have the time to stop and take a moment for self-reflection, I think you can you can actually tap into some level of enlightenment in that moment, whether it's just a number popping up and you're taking a self-reflection just on your own or something synchronicity to it.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm telling you, it's amazing because I've been able to change and enhance so many things just from stopping for that moment of self-reflection and getting myself in brain heart coherence.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's so powerful, Billy.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um I have often asked the question when we look at the nature of the universe and how it works, magic is around us all the time.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: Synchronicity is available, I will say, absolutely all of the time, except for one very important caveat.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: You've got to notice it.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: By noticing it, by acknowledging what it is, I believe brings about more of it and helps to catalyze your own intelligence or acts as a catalyst for your own um beyond intelligence, uh, enlightenment, literally enlightenment.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: I want to read something to you, you bringing up the 444.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: I know somebody out there right now is probably seeing 444 or 4 or 44.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: Excuse me.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's a very um well, they call that the angel number.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: I think some refer to that as an angel number, but according to your uh understanding, they're they're all they all have an angle aspect.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: This one is from Dagmara, a dear friend in uh and patron, Journier in Australia, who says this.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: She says, Yes, we are uh we aware ones all have our repeating numbers.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: For me, it's 111, 123, and very strongly 444 and 44.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: My question is, could there be a link with my particular repeating numbers and the emerald tablets?
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: The 144,000 prophesied light workers.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: I've read the tablets and they have had quite an effect on me, is what she says.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting, huh?
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, very interesting.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: That number 44, 144.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: There were 144,000 casing stones on the Great Pyramid.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, some religions believe that only 144,000 people are going to make it to heaven, or what they call the paradise, right?
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: And so we see this recurring theme of this 144 being a very important number, uh, even in the biblical text.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_02: 144,000, you know, angels are coming down with Jesus on his return.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_02: And so there's always this theme of this 144,000 over and over again throughout history, through many different civilizations and through many vastly different time periods.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: It makes you scratch your head like, what is up with this 144,000?
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: It's gotta be a significant number, or they wouldn't have put 144,000 casing stones on the Great Pyramid.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: So there's a reason behind this, and it has a deep significance that goes far beyond any text that we have uh laying around, even the biblical text, even the Sumerian text.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: I think it goes even far beyond that.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, the oldest account of the Great Pyramid being built is in the Emerald Tablets, and that was approximately between 36,000 to 38,000 years ago, when Thoth, the Atlantean priest king who ruled over the land of Chem before it was called Egypt, for 14,000 years, he wrote down himself in his own tablets that he had built the Great Pyramid patterned after Earth's force, and he built it to stand the test of time so that it too it too might remain through the ages, which it has.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_02: And so you have to think at the time that he architected this and and drew the floor plan for this and had it created and built, he already had worked in 144,000 casing stones.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: So we're talking about this number 144,000, going back at least 36 to 38,000 years ago.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: Let's just play with this for a minute.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: 144.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna take the thousand out.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: Let's just play with the number 144.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: Numerologically, it's nine.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, nine denotes, among other things, endings and new beginnings.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because in numerology, it doesn't go one through ten, it goes one through nine, and then you start at one again.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, nine could be viewed as revelation.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just playing with it.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying, what do you think?
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: Let's play with that for a minute.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's interesting.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: I like to really break down the 144,000 and see if we can find three, six, and nine in there.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like Tesla said, you know, if you can discover the mystery of three, six, nine, you know the mysteries of the universe.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, the nine is a pretty significant number because it is uh it is uh an important number in a lot of mathematical computations, first and foremost.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's it's almost everywhere.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: You almost can't escape it, especially in things that are uh naturally occurring in nature.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and you know, according to what uh one of the notes that I took with King Simon on the number nine, he says, as the final digit in numerology, the presence of nine suggests a chapter may be coming to an end.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: Witnessing nine is an angel number, uh is a sign that meaningful, a meaningful cycle, meaningful cycle could come to a close, and you'll soon have a beginning of a brand new journey.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: So it's not really the ending ending like it and times ending, but the end of a cycle and the beginning of a new cycle.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's exactly where I was going.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the other thing.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, I'm getting chills.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever you multiply nine with comes out to be nine.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: You can't escape it.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: Nine times two is eighteen, one and eight is nine.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: Nine times nine is eighty-one, eight and one is nine.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: There's something powerful here.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: Something else just came to me.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: Tesla said if you can discover the secret of three, six, nine, you know what the secret is?
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's nine.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: Because if you take three, six, and nine and add it up, you take three and six, it's nine.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: That means you now have two nines.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: Three and six is nine plus nine.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: Nine and nine is eighty-one, eight and one is nine.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: And there's something to that.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he literally would walk around his building that he was living in near his death, yeah, you know, three times, and he would go up certain floors that certain number of times.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_02: Everything he had to do had to add to three, six, nine.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_02: And so it was something to it.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: And what's interesting is before I moved into the previous house, this is two moves ago, I was starting fresh, talking about starting over.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: I was starting fresh out of one relationship to live on my own and start from zero again.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I went to this place, it was a brand new construction uh in uh sunrise, Florida.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_02: And I was just I was like, this place was so beautiful and so tranquil.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_02: A 180-degree water view.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's a condo.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: I never lived in the condo before, but I said, I'll give it a try.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: This is a brand new place.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: It was built on a Zen layout, and it even had a meditation hall inside of the building.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_02: So I said, you know what, I'll try this place.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_02: So I I go and we're looking.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_02: We couldn't find an open available unit.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: Finally, we found found one, the one that I ended up picking, and it was 369, number 369.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, Oh, this is it.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_02: I got this is this is it.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: I have to stay here, which I did for three years.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: So um, it's a powerful thing, but that nine definitely for me signified a new beginning.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go back to four, because this is your number, right?
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: Four is that your life?
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: Did you say it is your life number?
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: Four?
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_02: 44 is my master's number.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: 44.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 22:42
  unknown: Yeah.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm born on the fourth of September.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: And my name, my name fully spelt out in numerology comes out to a 44.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: A forty four.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: The four year was a powerful year, the last four year, because it was twenty twenty, and we all know what happened there.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I've I literally excelled the most I've ever excelled in my life since I've been in business and life in these last four years.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_02: Four is a powerful number.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, when I'm talking with King Simon, it symbolizes observing four as an angel number or an or a number of like I call of angles.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it suggests that you are in the process of grounding, rooting, and cultivating an infrastructure that's truly built to last.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: And if you look at what I've done with Forbidden Knowledge, I've anchored it, I've structured it, I've built teams.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: I got a board of directors.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we've had two rounds of funding and we're heading into our third round of funding, literally any moment now.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_02: And then we're going to up list to NASDAQ.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_02: We have over 5,000 investors in Forbidden Knowledge, people who bought shares of the company, and the TV network is expanding with over 6,000 shows.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: And my documentary that I did, the first one I've ever done, got independent film of the year.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_02: So I, you know, it's just so powerful and and so accurate.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I saw I'm just continuing to build and you know, just trying to maintain my flow state.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: Forbidden knowledge.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_02: For I won't even ask you.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think we know where it came from.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: And you always and interestingly, when I made that name, I had no uh link or connection or understanding of the fours.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I didn't.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_02: So I what I what I did was I I wrote out the name forbidden knowledge, and I said, you know, okay, what if I just use the number four?
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_02: It just came to me.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: So I used the number four instead of FOR.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: And but it's all is see, everything is a fractal, and so it came, you know, the essence of the four came out of me into my conscious thought and said, No, make it a four because you are a four, and that's exactly what I did, and that's how forbidden knowledge came out.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_02: Isn't that something else?
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: So powerful that it came before your full recognition of the significance of four, but you had unconscious recognition, it was there at some level.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: We know, even though we don't think we know, exactly.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's in there, it's all all the knowledge and wisdom, all the information throughout the entire universe is contained inside of our bodies.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: Every cell, that's right.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's powerful stuff.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: Let me give you another uh patron question.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: This is from Victorina.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: Hi, Vic.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for your question.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_01: She says, My numbers are always with a zero in the middle.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: 909-606-303-404-505.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: A lot.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: And to me, it looks like SOS.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I put in the for me because to her, it looks like SOS.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: What's that about?
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think about it?
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_02: That's interesting.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's powerful.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: I've never heard that exact sequence before, but that's pretty interesting because it would look like an SOS, which is, you know, a call out for help, but maybe it's to help yourself or just to be awareness of people in need of help.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: It could not be, it doesn't always have to be something derogatory or negative that's going to happen, like you're in trouble.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: It could be, you know, there could be somebody else that uh in your surroundings that needs assistance.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_02: And our biggest thing that we can do on this planet is be of service to others.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but you know, one King Simon's notes again, you know, zero is a zero is associated with new opportunities.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_02: And when you witness a zero in sequence within a set of three or four, this could signify a fresh start, and you're at a very beginning of a brand new cycle, which means you can create whatever your heart desires, um, which is pretty interesting.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_02: But she's seeing a combination of two different, which means it could be a message, you know, to create the SOS.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, five suggests major changes could be on the horizon.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_02: So it could be a combination of a new cycle and and major changes.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, so just something for her to self-reflect because she knows her life and her path better than anyone else.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, every time you see it, it's time to sit back and reflect and see what could this possibly mean for me?
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: Where am I right now?
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_02: Who am I in contact with?
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: Who are my connections?
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: Who are my inner network, my inner circle?
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_02: What obligations do I have?
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_02: You know, who around me needs assistance in any way, shape, or form?
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_02: And start that kind of thinking, and everything will then universe will just send it right to you.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: All that information you desire will come right to you.
• 27:17
  unknown: Okay.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: So here's mine.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta do mine.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, 1111 is it dips and it waxes and wanes in and out of my life.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's very interesting.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: My husband, too.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: But 55.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: 55 has been pretty much a constant.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: I see it several times a day.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, probably for the last couple of years.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow, that's incredible.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, that's not an easy number from in my for my mindset.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's not an easy number to find.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, that's pretty, that's pretty cool.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts on it on the significance?
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: 55 all the time.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's all about it matches, you know, it matches right now where you're sitting in your house.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, uh, new change on the horizon, which has happened.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, and it's it's uh it says if you've been feeling stuck, um, stifled or inspired, observing five as an angel number, um, with three or four, it says either within a set of three, four, or four digits reveals a massive shift might be in the works.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_02: For now, these transmit transformations might be occurring behind the scenes.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_02: In other words, key decision makers are still weighing options, but five appear as an angel number.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_02: Five appearing as an angel number suggests you're on the right path.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: So it's pretty interesting.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, for me, it's the double foot.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's nine times out of ten, it's on a clock, and it'll be 55 past the hour.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it's 555, but it's yeah, three, four times a day.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: That's pretty cool.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's so amazing how these numbers we just catch them.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it doesn't matter what time zone you're in.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: You switch time zone, you still catch them.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_02: That's how you know it's outside of time.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: You catch it on a microwave or an oven time clock.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: You catch it on your watch or your cell phone.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's just so random where it could be.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_02: It could be on a TV show, it could be, it could be anywhere, it could be in uh, like I said, the gas pump.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, who that's not even a clock.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_02: So it's just amazing how we're drawn to see these uh synchronicities occurring all around us.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_02: To me, it's definitely coding of the matrix, stopping and saying, hey, look at this.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and that's our signal to then, I believe, you know, reflect on the flow state that we're in, the mindset, what we're doing, how we're doing it, who we're interacting with, how we're interacting with them, and just maybe even to thank ourselves for the blessings that we have.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_02: Well, there's one thing in particular that's in astrophysics, that's peer-reviewed, that's documented, science taught in astrophysics in universities, uh, I believe it has an effect on biology.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: And so, what it is is our solar system, okay, it orbits the Milky Way galaxy because our sun orbits the Milky Way galaxy.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_02: We're on that outer arm, way out in the boondocks of the Milky Way galaxy.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_02: But our solar system ondulates up and down as it's orbiting around the central of the giant supermassive black hole at the center of our galaxy.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_02: It onulates up and down.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_02: Those ondulations represent hundreds of thousands or hundreds of, I'm sorry, hundreds of millions of miles up, hundreds of millions of miles down.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: Now, what's interesting is just within the last eight years, we reached a point through the undulation or the movement of our of our solar system where it has reached a uh a total equal plane with the center of the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: And that supermassive black hole is emitting and sending out an enormous amount of energetic particles on that plane.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_02: And we're now receiving those particles directly.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: Those particles even penetrate solid matter.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: They're affecting our DNA, they're hitting and pinging our DNA and changing the way our bodies are, changing our genes and everything else, and even our consciousness, even the way our neurons fire in our brains.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: So I believe that this particular cycle, which is what the minds were talking about the whole time, it was never the end of the world.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: If you go back to my old post, I would say people were going, it's the end of the world, the world's gonna end 2012.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's like, no, it's the end of a cycle.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_02: We're going into a beginning of a new cycle.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_02: Right after 2012, we hit that point where we actually are at the midpoint.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_02: We're actually hovering right around the centerpiece or the equatorial plane of the supermassive black hole, receiving all these charged particles, which are altering our consciousness and our DNA all around the planet.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's where we are right now.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I believe that that energetic field that we're in right now, in some way, shape, or form, has allowed us to tap into seeing these synchronicities, becoming more conscious, asking more questions, breaking out of the old dogma of religions and starting to seek more spirituality.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: This is the part of a new cycle that's the minds talked about that we're headed into, this age of enlightenment.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: I have finally gotten the insight that I have yet to receive, Billy.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: From any conversation, I'm sorry, any conversation I've had.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: Billy, I think you just explained, at least in part, why.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: Holy beep.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's huge.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: And it makes sense.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: It makes sense.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: It makes sense, and it would account for so many other enigmatic anomalous wonkiness that's going on.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: We're living in a I I have said it, I'll say it again.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: We're living in a metaphysically potent time.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: Billy may have just explained why.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't think it's gonna wane anytime soon, huh?
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no, no, we've got thousands of years at this plane of existence.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna see a huge push.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_02: We're in the tetrayuga.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: If you understand the yuga cycles, we've gone through the bronze and and everything.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: We're up getting we're in the beginning of a silver age, trying to get ourselves back up towards a new golden age.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, so we're gonna be here and moving up consistently over time.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: Even in the beginning of the pandemic, I said something has happened here metaphysically.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_01: I described it as feeling as if we had been moved to another part of the galaxy, literally.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: Now, this is my own crude sort of uh uh interpretation or distillation.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_01: I felt I used the Wizard of Oz scenario where Dorothy, you know, one minute she's in her home.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh you know, when where the screen is black and white, and when she opens the door, she's in Oz and it's a full color.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_01: You're not in Kansas anymore.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: But that's not a bad thing.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: We are not in Kansas anymore.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_01: Now, Billy, here's what I want to talk about over on the after show.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't get to um the legend and the myth behind the number 13.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's not what you think.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I want to talk about that.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I also want to talk about synesthesia, something that you and I share in common.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you recall, we talked about that, I believe, in our first interview, and it came up once again in your interview with King King Simon.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: Simon.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: I want to call him King Solomon, that's why I keep talking about it.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: I know, right?
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: King Solomon's Temple.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_01: I know I've almost called him King Solomon so many times, so don't feel bad.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, good.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_01: I because I know it's not that.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, King Simon.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna talk about that.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: We've taken a lot of pictures together when we when we've been um at events, and I know every picture that we have, this is Billy right here.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: Gotta have that four.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_01: Speaking of four, we've been talking about numbers, not the least of which, Billy, is this number 13, which by the way, if you add it, you get of course you get four.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: So let's start with that.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: You again, King Simon, who I his ears must be burning now, Billy.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta put him in touch with him.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: I want him on the city.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_02: He's gonna call me in a minute.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_01: Probably, probably.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you all touched on on that uh when you interviewed him in terms of the misconception of 13 and the history and where that may have come from.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: This this perhaps um intentional uh cursing of the number, calling it bad luck when it is anything but it could be just the opposite.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: I want to get into that.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_01: And we can start with the fact that when you add one and three in numerology, you get the number four, of which is an angel number.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about that.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: Number 13, what's that all about?
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_02: Number 13 for me was very powerful because I that was that was my high school sports number.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_02: Any sport I played, I picked a number 13.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_02: And the reason why I picked number 13 was because, from my visual perspective, it looked like a B for Billy.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_02: So I was always running around with a B on my chest for my own name.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_02: Because you know, I always from even a young age, I believed in the power of myself, and then I was always the best in any sport.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_02: And so it was like I had instead of having an S on my chest, I had a B on my chest.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_02: So the number 13 for me was a logical number to pick.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't realize it was a four until much later in my life.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, oh my God, I've been running around with a four on my chest the whole time.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder why I love this number so much.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I tell you, for me, it was a lucky number because I was a phenomenal athlete.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I was always uh, you know, uh in the in the paper or scoring a lot of points or uh saving the team or hitting a game shot or whatever it was.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_02: But for me, 13 was phenomenal.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_02: And I got to wear that number 13 again.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: We had a high school uh basketball reunion where my team from the 1980s went against the team from the late 2000s, I think it was 2000 uh 2023.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_02: I think it was 2016.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_02: So the 2016 championship team from my same high school, state champs, played against the old old versus new game, and I got my number 13 back on my chest again.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_02: And I came out, came up of double screen, and the first shot I took from three was nothing but butter.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_02: So I still had the power, and that game was went into triple overtime, triple overtime.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and we ended up having to just stop the game because neither side could win.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_02: So the old guys, we still had it, and we had to just end it because it was going too late in the afternoon, and people had to go home.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: But uh, but 13 for me is a powerful number.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: Now, like you say, one and three is a four.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_02: And King Simon believes it's a very spiritual number.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: And when you look into the number itself, it goes back into the ancient Indian Vedas.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's one of the most powerful numbers in the Vedas, it's a it's a very spiritual number, and it's a sacred number.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's not they call it a sacred number.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's now when you call something sacred, that's another level, you know what I'm saying?
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_02: That's right, right.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and so they say sacred number 13 is considered to be a very karmic number in numerology, it's associated with the divine.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: So now we know that we we as human beings, we are all divine because the spark that created everything in the entire universe is inside of every single atom in our body.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_02: So we're divine too.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_02: So we're it's godlike, it's the God energy.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_02: So we know it's the blueprint for God, and so and they're saying it's said to bring good luck and prosperity to those who embrace it.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_02: So this could be why the mainstream says, Hey, this is bad.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_02: Because if you embrace it, you're gonna have you're gonna see good things and have good tidings and have good experiences.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, they like fear, fear, fear allows them to control and dominate you.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: So, no, 13 is killing, murder.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_02: And we're gonna make whole movies about the number 13.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_02: And on the Friday, the 13th, you're gonna get stabbed in the head while you're sleeping and all this kind of crazy stuff.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: So it's all a play on the 13, which has really started out to be known as a divine sacred number.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_01: That's stunning.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_01: When we were speaking off air, I had mentioned to you that somehow intuitively, I wouldn't even assign it to me being intuitive as a kid, but I probably was.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't buy it.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: I said, I think this is a trick.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's interesting because uh I started my career in broadcasting back in 1986.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_01: I can't believe it.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: I was forget I just said that quite a few years ago.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_01: And uh when I worked at a radio station in Boston, uh, one of them, WVBFM, was in the Prudential Center, the very famous Prudential Center.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, guess what floor our radio station was on?
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, there was a 13th floor, and we were on the 13th floor.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_01: That was an anomaly because many buildings, as you know, are built without that's right level for for this same myth that that has been put out there.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's so true.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, and it's interesting because I don't know if anyone else acknowledged it, but uh I did.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, we're on a lucky floor, 13.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_02: Lucky 13.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you all recall, Billy, if you recall, the day that at the time President Trump declared a state of emergency was on Friday the 13th.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_02: That is correct.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_02: That is correct.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_02: He sure did.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody was freaking out.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: And even if it's even if we're not consciously picking it up, oh, the state of emergency was announced on the on Friday the 13th, even if it comes in hindsight, it's registered subconsciously because of the repetition and the indoctrination of 13 equaling, as far as you're concerned, a bad number.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't even matter whether if you acknowledge put two and two together on Friday the 13th.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, this was announced on Friday the 13th.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: The fact is it's embedded in your subconscious that this is what this means.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: We won't we don't want to go down this rabbit hole this deep for this show, but I just I'm just saying that's uh I found that quite interesting.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I you know, things like you know, for women, don't put your purse on the floor.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought, hmm, I think I'm gonna put my purse on the floor because they must be trying to hide something.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_01: Because guess what?
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: The gems, there are many gems in the core of the earth, and I want my purse close to those gems.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_01: I would do stuff like that when I was a young, younger person.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah, but we just, you know, people like us, we just see things differently, you know.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: We don't see things the way that everybody, and that's what has made us different.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_02: That has that that's what has allowed us to get our message out to impact as many people's lives as we have, is because we don't go with the status quo.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_02: We look at things from a higher level of understanding, and we say, you know what?
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_02: Well, what if this?
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_02: We ask questions, well, what if that, you know, or we base it on some of our own base knowledge from research and go, well, no, that can't be accurate because of this.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what separates us from a lot of people and gives us the ability to, you know, experience and and and live our best lives, you know.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_02: And so, yeah, I'm always thinking like that.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_02: You know, people say you see some people see the glass half empty, some people see it half full.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_02: I don't see either.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_01: You don't see either.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_01: I was just gonna say there is no glass, there's there's no box.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_01: Are there any practices that you could impart to individuals that are seeing whatever the pattern is?
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, I'll tell you one of the things that I've been doing uh over the past two years.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_02: I meditate, I have this, I have several different types of meditation, a manifestation meditation, I have a cosmic meditation, and then I have a meditation which allows me to focus on numbers.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's not specifically numerical patterns, but I understand that the entire universe, the language of God is math.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_02: That is the language of God, mathematics.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_02: With mathematics, we can speak to any race in the entire universe.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_02: Because once you reach a certain level of sentient understanding, you're gonna understand, you're gonna learn mathematics.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_02: And between and because of mathematics, we can communicate with anybody, including the creator itself.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_02: And so I really truly believe in the numbers.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_02: So I'll have this mathematical meditation where I would just go and get my mind ready, and I would see a bowl in my mind, and I would see a hand reaching in the bowl, taking my thoughts out little by little, just grabbing handfuls of thoughts till I can get the bowl almost empty.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_02: It's hard to get it completely empty, but I get it almost empty, and then I just sit there and I just allow the universe to fill it up with numbers, just random numbers coming in.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not looking to get anything out of it, I'm not looking to tap into any you know information or get any readings or insights.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just allowing the math of the universe to fill up that bowl.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_02: And then once the bowl is filled, I'll just sit there for 10 or 15 minutes and then I'm done.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_01: Now no expectation coming out of it.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_01: You're just going through the process of replacing your thoughts with numbers, letting the universe fill up the bowl.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_02: Random numbers coming out of it's so amazing because once you do it, once you see it, you see these numbers just coming out of nowhere.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: Random numbers that you're not even thinking of, just filling up this bowl, thousands of numbers just filling up this bowl inside of your head.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: And then once the bowl is full, that's about round the time that it's almost done.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_02: And then I just that's it.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_02: I am my meditation, I'm done.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_02: And so for me, what the reason why I do that is because I feel in some way that I'm getting downloaded information that's coming into my body, and that at some point, when I need that information, it's gonna make itself available to me.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be an upload back to my mainstream consciousness.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go back into my CPU and I'm gonna be able to access it or use it, or I'm gonna have a reflection or better insight.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna give me something that I need in the future at some point in time.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's why I do these uh these number meditations.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_01: Did you just come up with this on your own?
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just I have these thought experiences I've been doing since I was a kid.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_02: I do thought experiments.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_01: Me too.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: Me too.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: Me too.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not lying to you, me too.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm such a big proponent of improvisation in spiritual practice.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: This.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: I was trained uh in transcendental meditation at the age of what 13.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_01: That just dawned on me.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my parents, they were goofy.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm being funny.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: They that's what we did.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: They took me to TM.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: We took a family TM class.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: So I started that process.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_01: I had a mantra.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_01: The guy said, never tell your mantra.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_01: And me being missed, watched me.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: I went and told everyone my mantra because he told me not to.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: And but but I had this inclination to toss the mantra and just play with different approaches to meditation.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_01: I've been doing that ever since.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that it is actually that's 90% of enlightenment is reaching into the improvisational bag and putting together things, which really, really is not improvisation.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's channeling to me.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I do thought experiments just like you.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_01: I do.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's the greatest.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_02: Look at Bruce Lee.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_02: Bruce Lee was one of the greatest martial artists of all time.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_02: What did he take?
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_02: He took Wing Chung, which he became a master at.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_02: He learned it from Ipmon.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_02: And then he took Wing Cheng and he and then he altered it to create his own version of martial arts.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_02: And then he taught that to people.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_02: And you see the levels that he had gotten to.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, uh, you take the information, you know, we're we're we're both the student, the teacher, and the master.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_02: So when the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_02: When the teacher is ready, the master will appear.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_02: At some point, you have to recognize that you are also the master.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about synesthesia for a few minutes.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_01: Synesthesia, for those of you that don't know, I have a feeling many of you do.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's a it's a fascinating concept, and it's been called a condition.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_01: I don't like calling it that because I think it's a state of being, it's a state of consciousness.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but it's described as and it's experienced, and uh, I'll talk about my own experience, but um of having a certain sense.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_01: Tell tell me if I'm right, Billy, having a certain sense and it triggering another sense.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_01: In other words, we're talking about numbers.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_01: You see a number and it may trigger a color in your mind or a smell, or you may be able to decode a smell in uh in music.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's almost like a cross-wiring of senses.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right?
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's a cross-wiring.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_02: So, for example, my audio and visual cortex are merged.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_02: I was born that way.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm getting this cross, I don't want to call it cross-contamination because contamination is a bad word to use, but um it'll it it's the information from auditory and visual are getting mixed and crossed up consistently.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and uh in the beginning, when I was young, I I I remember like, okay, well, I used to ask my brother, do you see that when a noise would go off or something?
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_02: And can you see this cut, these colors?
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_02: And he would be like, What are you talking about?
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_02: What colors?
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_02: I would ask my mom, she didn't know what I was talking about.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_02: My dad didn't know, my sister didn't know, and um, my other brother wasn't born yet.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, What is going on?
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_02: So I said, Maybe I don't know.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_02: So when I got to school, I started asking people in school and they were like, Man, you crazy.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_02: So I just said, I don't know what it is, nobody can see it but me.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I just tried to find a way to ignore it, you know, over time, even though it was very distracting at times.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: And then when I got older, I think I was uh 27.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's when I was finally diagnosed from a doctor.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, Oh man, well, that explains it, you know, this whole time.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_02: Were you talking about this crossing of things?
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: He called it synesthesia, yeah, yeah.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_02: He did some, they did tests on me.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_02: They sent me to a a hearing place and a vision place, and when they uh he he had given me one of those uh what do you call it when you write to to go to different doctors or referrals?
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_02: And then they collaborated and on and came up with the uh theory that uh that I had synesthesia.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: For the record, I am a synesthet as well.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a synesthete as well.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_01: I think I've told you that.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I did not know uh that there was such a name for my circumstances until a decade or so ago.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh today is a navy blue day, it's Tuesday.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_01: Day days of the week and and months of the year I have always and forever associated with the same colors, they never deviate.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's not even that uh I see uh I'm looking at this white light that's Saturday.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_01: There's no debating it.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_01: And and and for me, it's um tones, it's not just primary colors, it's secondary colors.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I've got three three days of the week that are tones of blue.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_01: Today's navy blue, Wednesday is more of an indigo, and Friday is this other shade that I could only show you.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's just one of those things.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's and it's fascinating.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what does it mean?
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, how do we so so those of us, and I have a feeling there there may be some in the audience that that have these qualities.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_01: How might we, if at all, differently process this number phenomenon?
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_01: Are we more um apt to see these number patterns?
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_01: Do something with them?
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_02: I see numbers all the time because my synesthesia is the form that when I hear sounds, even your voice generates numbers.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_02: Every sound that I hear, even the lawnmower going off outside right now with the yard man and the weed whacker guy, those all generate colors, and those colors are then linked to numbers.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm consistently seeing numbers all the time.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_02: The numbers that I'm seeing are never uh, well, not never, every now and then they have like uh two or three digits the same, but it's not that often, to be quite honest with you, it's which is pretty interesting.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, they're more of a random number.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, not too many times are they're just two or three together, just usually like seven or eight different numbers.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_02: But uh it's pretty interesting that a lot of synesthesia, a lot of people with synesthesia, they see numbers when they hear sounds, or when they see numbers, they see colors, or when they uh see colors, they get feelings.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like for me, if I have anything that's uh anything that's a bright color, like uh um uh what do you call that?
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_02: The pink, the bright pinks and the bright greens, fuchsia and all those kind of colors, those neon colors.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well, if they're moving too fast in front of my eyes, it generates this sensation inside of my chest, which is very irritating.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so people with synesthesia will see or hear a word and taste food, see a shape and taste food.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah, I do hear sounds and see shapes or patterns, hear sounds after you smell a certain scent, hear sounds and taste food, feel an object with your hands and hear a sound.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, and feeling touched and seeing someone will give you the same uh sensation as being touched.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so it's just this weird combination.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_02: There's so many variations of it that occur, but one in a hundred thousand people have this Mary J.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_02: Blige, Billy Joel, Pharrell, Pharrell, uh just the Linda Moulton Howe.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_01: Did you know that Linda Moulton Howe is a synesthetic?
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I didn't know.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, we never had the conversation.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's interesting.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, that you know, once I acknowledge and knew that I was in really good company, because you feel alone if you have no context for, you know, why is yeah, you know, and people have asked me, you know, what where did the number do you think maybe you learned it in nursery school or kindergarten, you know, associating days of the week?
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's the primary thing for me, days of the week with color.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I had to think about that and say, well, no, because the colors aren't primary.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if let's say someone was holding up flashcards to help me memorize days of the week, they would be primary, red, blue, you know, uh uh green, etc.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_01: No, these are, you know, I can run it out.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_01: Monday, I'm looking at my my laptop, uh, leather laptop.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's Monday.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a pumpkin orange-ish, Tuesday is navy blue, Wednesday's indigo, Thursday is lime green, Friday is another blue, dark blue, Saturday's white, and Sunday is blood red.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_01: Period.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's always been that way for me.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_01: As for food, I'll say this.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_01: I um and I don't even don't know how to describe the sensation.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_01: I will taste food in my mind, and it comes arbitrarily.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_01: I'll be working on something and I'm not hungry, but I will recall lobster.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: It it it's just whatever it wants to be, and I'm processing it with my brain, not my taste buds.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's where everything gets processed anyway.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_02: So the taste buds themselves actually don't even know what they're tasting, they collect data from the uh the food that's put on top of their tongue, on top of those those nerve endings, and transmit it to the brain.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_02: Then the brain creates this taste, which is the old an illusion.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_02: Pretty interesting.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: It is interesting.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: Closing thoughts on numbers, and then we'll let you go.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_01: What should we do with numbers in 2023?
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_02: In 2023, I would say just dream big.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_02: Whatever you're doing that involved any number at all, put the best and biggest and largest number you can conceive on that thing.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I wrote myself a check for one billion dollars, you know, and so uh just put the numbers, dream big with the numbers.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_02: When it comes to numbers, just dream big.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_02: Have your number meditation like I did.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_02: Just a thought experiment.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_02: I created a couple years ago, and I've been doing it, and I just feel like it's been a benefit to me.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_02: So I never stopped.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_02: Just see a bowl in your mind and see a hand removing your thoughts out of that bowl until it's empty, and then just sit there in a quiet place and just allow the universe to fill your mind, fill that bowl in your mind with numbers.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_02: And I just believe it's a blessing.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_02: I believe it's just it's such knowledge and information being downloaded right to your mind from the universe.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, don't forget in 2023, the first and foremost thing is to be of uh of service to others, acts of kindness.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_02: This is gonna help you explode this year and make it one of the most incredible and best years you can ever have.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_02: I believe this is gonna be one of the greatest years of my life.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_02: And if you believe that too for yourself, it will be.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_02: Don't let the fear porn from the news and the media and everything else bring you down.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_02: You will be blindsided, you will have bumps in a row, you will have hurdles to jump over.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_02: At the end of the day, stay positive and believe in yourself.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_01: Billy Carson, thank you so much for biddenknowledge.tv.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I always like to say, I love you, Billy.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_02: I love you too.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for having me on.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate it.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_02: I love your journey as you're the greatest.