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Tigers respond to trade deadline chaos · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network Trot Tiger's podcast. I'm Karen Steckley
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Speaker 1: with me as always as a man who likely enjoyed
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Speaker 1: a few local cold brews this morning. He is Cody Stavenhagen.
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Speaker 1: How are we doing?
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Speaker 2: Uh?
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Speaker 3: Went with a hot Americano But but yeah, doing all right.
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Speaker 3: Good coffee town here in Seattle.
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Speaker 1: Good coffee town. And yeah, and and good baseball being
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Speaker 1: played by the Tigers again. So the trade deadline comes,
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Speaker 1: we speculate about what it's, what does it mean in
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Speaker 1: the future, and all these things, and all the Tigers
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Speaker 1: just do is keep on hitting the ball, keep on
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Speaker 1: scoring runs, and keep on winning games of climbing and standing.
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Speaker 1: So that's the diconomy that is just so appropriate for
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Speaker 1: this team and this season that like, like you know,
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Speaker 1: the sky is falling? Did they do enough? Blah blah blah?
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Speaker 1: Was this the wrong decision? Should they have done this earlier?
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Speaker 3: Boy?
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Speaker 1: Mine is they continue to play good baseball. So we'll
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the game that happened. Recording
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Speaker 1: this early in the morning Eastern time, after the Tigers
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Speaker 1: with a eight nothing win over the Seattle Mariners. Well,
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Speaker 1: what's the vibes Cody, you are there. I'm sure there's
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Speaker 1: some background noise that's being picked up on the mic,
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Speaker 1: but and that's okay. You're in the press box. What
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Speaker 1: is the vibes of the team right now? After having
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Speaker 1: you know, cut their starting pitching and then like people
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Speaker 1: in Limbo, you got Jack Flaherty being like, you know,
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Speaker 1: the Will Smith Fresh Prince mean, like, what are the
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Speaker 1: vibes of the clubhouse right now?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I wrote this, you know, my story for the Athletic
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Speaker 3: It's been almost difficult to describe. It's not quite been
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Speaker 3: solemn or dejected or it's not been certainly not been happy.
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Speaker 3: It's just been different. That's the word I sett alone.
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Speaker 3: It's just different. There are some big personalities, important characters
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Speaker 3: sucked out of that room, not just Trek Schoubel and
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Speaker 3: Casey Myz, but still going back to Jake Rogers, even
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Speaker 3: going back to Jami Jones. Some guys who are really
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Speaker 3: part of the fabric of this team aren't in there anymore.
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Speaker 3: And you have a lot of new faces Eduardo Valencia,
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Speaker 3: Max Clark, like you know, all these other guys and
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Speaker 3: the complexion of this team has just materially changed over
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Speaker 3: the past week a week plus, and so I'm not
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Speaker 3: sure anyone quite knows how to act or how to respond.
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Speaker 3: I think it's been a mix of emotions. It's obviously
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Speaker 3: tough losing guys like that Trek and Casey and Jake
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Speaker 3: and others who were so close to so many guys
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Speaker 3: in that clubhouse. But Spencer Toorgelsen does something interesting. A
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Speaker 3: couple of days ago, we've talked a lot about like
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Speaker 3: the leadership, who are the leaders? Is there a lack
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Speaker 3: of leadership? Thorgelsen said, you know, there's not really one
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Speaker 3: ring leader. It's leadership by committee, anythings that can help
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Speaker 3: the team in a time like this, And I'd never
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Speaker 3: really thought of it from that perspective. Is leadership committee
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Speaker 3: by committee a real thing? Or is that like an oxymoron?
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but in a time like this, yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's like, well, I don't know, there never really was
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Speaker 3: other than maybe Scooble, that one central guy who ran everything.
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Speaker 3: And so now the leadership complexion changes, the responsibilities certainly
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Speaker 3: shift a little more on the way away from the field,
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Speaker 3: maybe that falls more on Tourgulsen Rightley Green on the field.
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Speaker 3: Maybe that falls more on Troy Melton. Clearly, despite all
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Speaker 3: the emotions of the past few days, they're doing okay
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Speaker 3: because they've won four straight. They've scored eight plus runs
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Speaker 3: in six straight games here in this little sample, they're
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Speaker 3: playing some of their best baseball of the entire season.
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Speaker 3: They're one and a half game out of a playoff spot,
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Speaker 3: which is kind of ridiculous to say out loud given
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Speaker 3: what we've gone through here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I would agree in a general sense that
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Speaker 1: leadership by committee is largely bs if you made me,
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Speaker 1: like pick one or the other, Like that's just kind
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Speaker 1: of how I feel. Yeah, but that doesn't mean that
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Speaker 1: it never exists, and that doesn't mean that it can't,
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Speaker 1: like it can't just kind of be more of a
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Speaker 1: reflection of the way that Like, if you were to
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Speaker 1: pick a baseball team that would have leadership by committee,
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Speaker 1: quote unquote, it would probably be a team that on
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Speaker 1: any given day is going to use the entire bench
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Speaker 1: like AJ likes to do, right, It would probably be
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Speaker 1: a team that's gonna be so matchup dependent that every
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Speaker 1: single arm available that day, like actually has to be
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Speaker 1: available that day because you just never know what could
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Speaker 1: what what AJ is gonna opt to do right. So
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Speaker 1: like if rose colored glasses perhaps, But what do you
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Speaker 1: want me to say when they, like you said, when
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Speaker 1: they've scored six straight games with eight plus runs, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like that like something the formula
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Speaker 1: and the ingredients are obviously meshing well. And again you
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Speaker 1: just kind of look at the box score. You know,
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Speaker 1: you have Torres hits a home run. You know, Riley
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Speaker 1: Green hits a home run. You have contribution still from
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Speaker 1: uh from McKinstry, a guy that you know, I can't
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Speaker 1: say I've been elated by his play this season, like
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Speaker 1: like Cole Keith has been hot. So like that is
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Speaker 1: the committee? Like this is the committee tags? Did we
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Speaker 1: just come up with the next one? Cody?
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Speaker 3: Are they the committee?
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Speaker 1: Are they? Are they the committee tags? Because that might
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Speaker 1: be that might be the case, and that might be
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Speaker 1: how they you know, kind of scratch and cloth pun
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Speaker 1: their way into the playoffs. And then if we were
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Speaker 1: to go with like a star of what we saw
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday night, it's it's it's obviously Troy Melton. And
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Speaker 1: so like I I don't know if people are gonna
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Speaker 1: believe me, but I had I was like, Okay, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna do the Colin Cowhert thing like Trek Schouoble, We're good,
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Speaker 1: you know. Uh, And then clark is King on Twitter
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Speaker 1: put it out there, so technically he's got it first.
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Speaker 1: I'll I'll give him credit, but I promise you I
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Speaker 1: wrote it down. I was gonna do that thing. It's
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Speaker 1: like Derek Scooble, We're good, we got Troy Melton, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean? And and and that's a joke,
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Speaker 1: especially given what the origin of the meme meme is.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know what else to say about Troy Melton,
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Speaker 1: neither Cody because seven ennis today, three hits, zero runs.
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Speaker 1: This guy is ace material. That's really how he's pitched
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Speaker 1: kind of his whole major league career. Like like, am
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Speaker 1: I exaggerating here? Like am I exaggerating to say that
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Speaker 1: he has pitched?
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Speaker 3: Is like what two point two or something like that.
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Speaker 3: I'm looking kier and I'm getting scared by what Troy
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Speaker 3: Melton is doing. So it's kind of like it's not
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Speaker 3: sneaking up on me or you, like we've been watching
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Speaker 3: it and talking about it. But at the same time,
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Speaker 3: it's like, wait, he's having a historic start to his
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Speaker 3: major league career, and I don't think this is getting
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Speaker 3: as much do. I mean, I remember in twenty three
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Speaker 3: when Schooble returned from his flexor tendon surgery and it's
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Speaker 3: just lights out. You know, someone at the Athletic I
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Speaker 3: think they were playing like the I don't know if
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Speaker 3: it's the Phillies or the Guardian. Somebody. Someone sent me
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Speaker 3: a message like, oh, this team is making Trek Scuball
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Speaker 3: look like Steve Carlton, and he's like kind of making
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Speaker 3: fun of like the other team for sucking. And I
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Speaker 3: was like, well, I'm not trying to say Steve Carlton,
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Speaker 3: but this guy's kind of really good. Maybe you should
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Speaker 3: start paying attention. And that's where we're at with Troy Melton, who,
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Speaker 3: from what I can tell's a game like zero National
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Speaker 3: pub and yet has just been the dude again. This
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Speaker 3: is since Troy Melton got off the AL this season twelve.
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Speaker 3: This was before Tuesday Night's game. His first eleven starts
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Speaker 3: one point seven five ERA. That's now down to I
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Speaker 3: think one point five to eight. The only pitcher in baseball,
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Speaker 3: starting pitcher minimum fifty innings who has been better is
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Speaker 3: Jacob Mizerowski, who is literally having a historic season now.
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Speaker 3: It is interesting if you look at this list for
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Speaker 3: your why on YouTube, Melton has one of the lowest
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Speaker 3: wars of these top ten pitchers here. He's kind of
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Speaker 3: underperformed or overperforming his FIP his expected era. It's because
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Speaker 3: the strikeout numbers still aren't great. The eight K per
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Speaker 3: nine range, even the home run ball is higher than
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Speaker 3: all these other guys on this list, so that's something
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Speaker 3: to like watch. But we've seen it. Man. He has
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Speaker 3: a six pitch arsenal. He has multiple weapons to go to.
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Speaker 3: It's really been the cutter a lot, but tonight it
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Speaker 3: was more the splitter. It seems like Mariners hair has
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Speaker 3: almost tried to shy away from that cutter a little bit.
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Speaker 3: He mixed in the splitter really well. He has so
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Speaker 3: many different ways to attack guys, and I think that's
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Speaker 3: part of why he's able to succeed even if the
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Speaker 3: strikeout numbers aren't through the roof, and we've talked about
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Speaker 3: that some. I think his stuff is good enough. He
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Speaker 3: has the capability to start getting more punch outs, and
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Speaker 3: we've seen a couple outings where he has had a
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Speaker 3: little bit more swing and miss. Still getting better. Still
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Speaker 3: figuring things out. This guy's really good. And right now
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Speaker 3: he is pitching like an Acy's pitching better believe it
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Speaker 3: or not, than Trek Scoople was seven seven or more
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Speaker 3: scoreless outings. He already has three in his Tiger's career.
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Speaker 3: Casey May is finished with three, Matthew Boyd finished with three.
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Speaker 3: He's already matched what those guys accomplished basically in terms
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Speaker 3: of peak dominance as Detroit Tigers, which is wild.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I love about him is that,
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Speaker 1: like I know I've said this before, but I love
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Speaker 1: his demeanor. I love like just like how nothing seems
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Speaker 1: to get to him. Even in the seventh inning, you know,
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Speaker 1: he's one out away from getting through it. And he
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Speaker 1: gives up the single to cal Riley there and you know,
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Speaker 1: Fedder just wants to make sure, like, hey, everything's good,
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Speaker 1: goes out to the mound and I don't know if
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Speaker 1: anybody caught it, but he's like laughing with Dylan Dingler.
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Speaker 1: Melton is like right before Feedder gets you know, potentially
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Speaker 1: into proximity and then and then he gets like really
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Speaker 1: serious and then you know, takes coaching the points or
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Speaker 1: you know whatever, blah, blah blah, and then he and
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Speaker 1: then he gets in and then he catches the line
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Speaker 1: out to end his uh end his outing right, so
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Speaker 1: like like it's just it's perfect. It's like the way
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Speaker 1: that he operates. I love and so like, if you're
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Speaker 1: looking for reasons to get hyped and excited, it's this
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Speaker 1: guy Kieren.
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Speaker 3: How about after that fourth inning, he's in a little gym,
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Speaker 3: two runners on base, Boom punch out to out, Boom
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Speaker 3: punch out of cal Raley, and what do we get.
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Speaker 3: We get a little fist bump, a little a little yell,
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Speaker 3: a little light version of the trek schoogle signature.
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Speaker 1: Roar.
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Speaker 3: I thought that was really fitting. Maybe a little passing
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Speaker 3: in the torch. You start doing more of that, you
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Speaker 3: can start captivating some audiences, maybe getting a little more
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Speaker 3: of the national tension that it's certainly going to be
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Speaker 3: coming his way soon enough. If he continues to pitch like.
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Speaker 1: This, like I said, we're good, and we are going
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Speaker 1: to get to a quick break and then afterward we're
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Speaker 1: All right, coming back here, so I'm sure you guys
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Speaker 1: saw the graphic the Tigers have scored six and more
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Speaker 1: run or, assuming two main numbers, eight or more runs
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Speaker 1: in six consecutive games, the first time they've done that
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Speaker 1: since early July of nineteen twenty seven. So it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: I went, yeah, it was a great year. I went
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Speaker 1: and looked up the lineup. That was funny enough. So
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Speaker 1: this happens in the midst of you know, Derek Schooble,
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Speaker 1: who knows what his projection is long term in terms
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Speaker 1: of what his legacy will be. But obviously a Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame stretch is going in here. Ty Cobb maybe
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Speaker 1: the greatest Tiger of all time. This was his first
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Speaker 1: year off the Tigers. You know, he played one year
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Speaker 1: with the Philadelphia Athletics. So here's the lineup Cody for
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Speaker 1: the nineteen twenty seven Tigers. That was the last time
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Speaker 1: this team had eight runs in six consecutive games or more.
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Speaker 1: Jack Warner, Charlie Garrion, him Heeny Manush, Bob Father Gill,
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Speaker 1: Harry Hollman, Johnny Noon, Jackie Tavor, Johnny Bassar, Larry Woodhall,
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Speaker 1: and Earl Whitehall. And there's a obviously Pitcher's still bad
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Speaker 1: personal friends, yes, yeah, friends of the podcast. Actually yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of pinch hitters, obviously because
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Speaker 1: there was no DH back then. But that's two Hall
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Speaker 1: of famers. The main point is that's two Hall of
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Speaker 1: famers in the lineup there, Cody and two Hall of
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Speaker 1: famers that did it a lot with the bat too,
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Speaker 1: you know, not just not just with the gloves. So
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Speaker 1: that's a little perspective that we have here. And what's
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Speaker 1: funny is like if you're just like looking for confirmation
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Speaker 1: bias as to why to not to give up like
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Speaker 1: this is another example is like his story stretch of offense,
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Speaker 1: like literally a historic stretch of offense from this team
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Speaker 1: when every game is crucial. Now, again, that was when
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Speaker 1: only one team in nineteen twenty seven obviously goes to
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Speaker 1: the World Series. There's a lot more and that was
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Speaker 1: earlier in the year. Now, like the pressure has been
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Speaker 1: on for a long time. I think that's actually one
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Speaker 1: of the more impressive things about this, Cody, is that
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Speaker 1: this isn't June fourth through ninth or whatever, right when
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Speaker 1: they just got hot. You see what I'm saying, Like
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Speaker 1: this is when like they've been having to kind of
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Speaker 1: play playoff baseball for a couple months now and then
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Speaker 1: you throw in the emotions of the trade deadline. That's
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Speaker 1: to me as impressive as getting the ball out like
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Speaker 1: in the thick Seattle air, you know, right after coming
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Speaker 1: off the Sacramento Triple A Stateum, you see what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: Like this is like a mental and like a four
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Speaker 1: to two test for this team that they have passed
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Speaker 1: with flying covers colors that they're able to do this.
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Speaker 3: Dan Dickerson set it on the radio, I think a
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Speaker 3: fifty three game stretch where they've been averaging close to
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Speaker 3: five and a half runs a game. I haven't got
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Speaker 3: the fact check that because it almost seems unbelievable, but
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Speaker 3: they've put up some twelve thirteen spots, so maybe it's
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Speaker 3: maybe it's true. I assume it's true. If Dan said
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Speaker 3: it on the radio makes you take a step back.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's still been some weak offensive nights in there,
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Speaker 3: some nice everything. I mean, they really have that good
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Speaker 3: of a lineup, but they've been hitting the ball. They've
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Speaker 3: been hitting the ball out of the ballpark. I think
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Speaker 3: more than ninety home runs in that stretch, and that's
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Speaker 3: pretty impressive because you just look at this lineup on
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Speaker 3: paper and it still doesn't always feel all that formidable,
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Speaker 3: and yet here they are. Since that turnaround data on
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Speaker 3: June first, they've been one of the best offenses in
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Speaker 3: baseball and it hasn't really slowed down of it maybe
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Speaker 3: slowed down there for a while, and now it's now
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Speaker 3: it's back in full force. These guys are hot, which
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Speaker 3: almost makes me nervous because like, okay, can you really
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Speaker 3: sustain that for two more months or is there They're
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Speaker 3: a dramatic fall off about to come. That's just how
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Speaker 3: it seems like this game works sometime. But at credit
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Speaker 3: a credit to these Tigers in a way here in
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Speaker 3: this lineup, I mean, you have Valencia up here now
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Speaker 3: instead of Jake Rogers, you have Max Clark up here
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Speaker 3: and playing instead of I don't know, like James Outman's
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Speaker 3: not playing every day anymore. In a way, you have
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Speaker 3: more talent offensive talent on this roster than you did
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Speaker 3: for the majority of that run. Although they're rookies, it's
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Speaker 3: gonna be pretty interesting to see what's a hit.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: One of the things that we've done recently is we've
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Speaker 1: we've focused on the you know, the trade deadline, the
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Speaker 1: school boy question, because obviously that was the biggest story
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Speaker 1: in the sport. So we haven't really had a chance
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Speaker 1: to kind of talk about Max Clark. And you've been
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Speaker 1: there the entirety from Sacramento now to Seattle of his
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Speaker 1: you know, major league career up to this point, and
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Speaker 1: you and obviously you follow them interviewed him, you know
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Speaker 1: prior uh, take us to the Max Clark experience right now,
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Speaker 1: because I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what one
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Speaker 1: of the things that I always look for when a
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Speaker 1: young guy comes up is not necessarily like when does
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Speaker 1: he get his first hit? And you know, like you know,
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Speaker 1: like like the stat part of it, although obviously that
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Speaker 1: will be the most important thing. I look for comfort, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and and and does he look like he belongs? And
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you when you're six for sixteen and you've
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Speaker 1: got four walks, and you're and and you're playing the
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Speaker 1: outfield aggressively and calmly, which I think is how is
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Speaker 1: how he's played thus far, Max Clark does not look
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Speaker 1: overwhelmed by being a major league baseball player. And and
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Speaker 1: four games in, that's about the best compliment I think
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Speaker 1: I can give somebody given the stakes, given how he's
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Speaker 1: been a like a celebrity in the game for this
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Speaker 1: long and the criticisms that he's taken, just from even
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Speaker 1: the Tigers fan base like he he looks like he
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Speaker 1: is just right in stride as a major league baseball player,
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Speaker 1: and I think that's the best sign so far.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the things I've really come to look
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Speaker 3: for in young players over the years is just are
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Speaker 3: they making progress? Can you see signs of them getting better?
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Speaker 3: So I go straight to the defensive side of the ball.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we saw it in spring training. He did
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Speaker 3: not look comfortable at all. He looked like he was
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Speaker 3: in his own head, even on defense. We talked about
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Speaker 3: it throughout this year. I was hearing from scouts. You know,
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Speaker 3: he was built as this plus center fielder and is
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Speaker 3: like the defensive instincts just aren't as good as they
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Speaker 3: were billed to be or you think they would be. Well,
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Speaker 3: it's just four games in the big leagues, but mex
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Speaker 3: Clark has been stellar in center field and he is
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Speaker 3: getting just a plus jumps and making some really difficult plays.
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Speaker 3: And A. J. Hinch has talked a lot about all
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Speaker 3: the work you know he did in TRIPAA on his
18:48
Speaker 3: pre pitch on getting reads and that is translating. Will
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Speaker 3: it be this good for you know, one hundred and
18:55
Speaker 3: sixty two games. I'm not sure, but you can see
18:59
Speaker 3: tangible signs of growth and progress. And then you still
19:02
Speaker 3: have seen a very steady approach at the plate. He's
19:05
Speaker 3: not trying to do too much. That's one of his
19:06
Speaker 3: biggest strengths is making good swing decisions. The fact he's
19:10
Speaker 3: able to come to the major leagues and not stray
19:13
Speaker 3: from that approach, just like what Kevin McGonagall did. That's
19:16
Speaker 3: really encouraging. You know, there are other questions to answer.
19:20
Speaker 3: Can you lift the ball consistently? Can you hit for power?
19:22
Speaker 3: Can you do all this? His process has been so
19:26
Speaker 3: good throughout four games, very small, but just really impressed with,
19:30
Speaker 3: like you said, the comfort, the process, and the signs
19:34
Speaker 3: of growth, some of them subtle, some of them quite
19:38
Speaker 3: quite conspicuous, especially the defense.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, to the point about the defense, he had
19:44
Speaker 1: that catch on can zone in the fourth ding today
19:49
Speaker 1: and it was kind of like a slide, half die,
19:52
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, but he had to
19:53
Speaker 1: come up on that ball. According to Jason Beck, you
19:56
Speaker 1: put this on Twitter, traveled one hundred and twenty one
19:58
Speaker 1: feet thirty point one feet per second to get to
20:01
Speaker 1: that ball. And if you'll notice that he must have
20:06
Speaker 1: called that early because there was no one else really
20:08
Speaker 1: kind of because that was kind of like a little
20:10
Speaker 1: bit of a tweener. And you got Zach McKinstry and
20:12
Speaker 1: right field, who obviously has the ability to go chase
20:15
Speaker 1: down the ball. Zach McKinstry didn't make a real play
20:17
Speaker 1: on it. Obviously Glaber wasn't gonna get there. And that
20:20
Speaker 1: was Max Clark's ball all the way he wanted it.
20:23
Speaker 1: And that's what I mean where it's like command and calm,
20:26
Speaker 1: like he knew that that was his ball, he was
20:28
Speaker 1: gonna go get it, and then and and he has
20:32
Speaker 1: enough of juice of presence of trust that we've seen
20:37
Speaker 1: collisions this year that like things like that aren't happening
20:41
Speaker 1: on plays like that.
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Speaker 3: This doesn't really chase balls over his head. Yes, that's okay.
20:49
Speaker 3: You got Max Clark out there, when you.
20:51
Speaker 1: Got Max Clark behind you, like you can get away
20:53
Speaker 1: with that a little bit more. All right, We are
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Speaker 1: You know, it should be noted Cody that one of
22:12
Speaker 1: the more encouraging signs that we saw from Melton in
22:15
Speaker 1: additionally just being lights out, is that he allowed a
22:19
Speaker 1: J Hinch will only have to deploy two relievers. Now,
22:21
Speaker 1: obviously the offense played a huge part in that, you know,
22:24
Speaker 1: with with the late with the late surge there too.
22:27
Speaker 1: I know our friend Mark Grosh likes to say on
22:30
Speaker 1: on X like, you know who's getting the last six outs, Well,
22:35
Speaker 1: most of the time, when you have an eight nothing lead,
22:38
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter all that much most of the time,
22:41
Speaker 1: most of the time, most of the time. We had
22:43
Speaker 1: a recent example of that not necessarily being the case,
22:45
Speaker 1: but most of the time. And and so you know,
22:48
Speaker 1: Jake wagisback comes in there gets a shutout inding and
22:51
Speaker 1: then uh and then new addition taking Casey Mises spot y,
22:56
Speaker 1: Albert Diaz comes in and it closes it out. So
23:02
Speaker 1: that's that's the direct roster move, Diaz coming up, and
23:07
Speaker 1: he gets in the first game with with the with
23:09
Speaker 1: the Casey Mais trade. But probably more i would say,
23:14
Speaker 1: more important and definitely more exciting, is that we're gonna
23:18
Speaker 1: see Jackson Job here pretty soon. Cody, how about that?
23:22
Speaker 1: How about that?
23:23
Speaker 3: I thought he was I thought he would make another
23:24
Speaker 3: start in Triple A. Nope, he's coming up. He's gonna
23:28
Speaker 3: pitch against the Giants this weekend. And it feels like
23:32
Speaker 3: it's been a long time since we've seen Jackson Joe.
23:35
Speaker 3: I mean it has been it's been more than a year,
23:37
Speaker 3: but he's almost so much has just happened since then.
23:41
Speaker 3: The focus has been so away from him. Interesting to remember,
23:45
Speaker 3: like Jackson Joe boutings are kind of must watch just
23:48
Speaker 3: because of how electric he is, how much potential is there,
23:50
Speaker 3: and how much we're all still trying to find out,
23:53
Speaker 3: like can he put it all together? Also worth remembering
23:55
Speaker 3: he's yet to really have tangible, sustained success at the
24:00
Speaker 3: major league level. He hasn't pitched in the major leagues
24:02
Speaker 3: very much. I'm really excited to get Jackson Joe back
24:06
Speaker 3: on the mound and watch for losing Casey Miiz and
24:11
Speaker 3: losing Trek Scuogl. The Tigers before the end of the
24:14
Speaker 3: year are going to add two guys who can throw
24:17
Speaker 3: upper nineties, if not one hundred, we know Job can
24:20
Speaker 3: throw one hundred and is really fun to watch. And
24:22
Speaker 3: then River Ryan acquired in the Schooble trade, again coming
24:26
Speaker 3: back from a hamstring injury. I think there's hope he
24:28
Speaker 3: can start in the major leagues by or pitch in
24:31
Speaker 3: the major leagues by September, if not, maybe a little
24:34
Speaker 3: bit sooner. And he has a pretty similar arsenal of
24:38
Speaker 3: just elite, nasty premium stuff. Both these guys coming off injuries,
24:43
Speaker 3: but both these guys pretty tantalizing to watch. Job here
24:47
Speaker 3: maybe a little sooner than we would have first expected.
24:49
Speaker 3: He is coming off TJ. Let's remember, very few guys
24:52
Speaker 3: come straight off Tommy John surgery and are at their peak.
24:56
Speaker 3: I mean you can even go look at his rehab starts.
24:59
Speaker 3: He didn't quite breeze through even high a the way
25:03
Speaker 3: Trek Scoople did when when Trek visited the kids in
25:06
Speaker 3: West Michigan. So I think there's still a lot of
25:08
Speaker 3: refining to do with Jackson Joe. But talk to him today,
25:11
Speaker 3: you know, classic story, like learned a lot going through
25:15
Speaker 3: Tommy John about himself, about who he is away from baseball.
25:19
Speaker 3: There's a kind of the new appreciation that comes when
25:21
Speaker 3: the game gets taken away from you. So Jackson job
25:24
Speaker 3: about to be back to being he must watch start.
25:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think we were among the more vocal
25:32
Speaker 1: people being like, I think the Tigers plan is for
25:36
Speaker 1: him to be like part of this, you know, late
25:39
Speaker 1: season run. And I don't think I don't think August
25:43
Speaker 1: whatever it will be, all the days running together, tenth, eighth, ninth,
25:47
Speaker 1: whatever it will be, was kind of like the date
25:49
Speaker 1: that we had in mind. But like he obviously has
25:52
Speaker 1: checked every single box along the way, And you know,
25:55
Speaker 1: part of it's a neat thing, like kind of need
25:58
Speaker 1: Jackson job here, you know, give and given the stay
26:01
Speaker 1: of the team and the trades and all that stuff.
26:04
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, if he is at least promising,
26:08
Speaker 1: that's obviously gonna make schoobl in myz trades a lot
26:12
Speaker 1: easier to swallow. So really excited to see what he does.
26:16
Speaker 1: And then the other piece of this is that Drew
26:19
Speaker 1: Anderson will be slotted into the start in rotation. Obviously
26:23
Speaker 1: he's not fully stretched out, so that will be like
26:26
Speaker 1: a little bit of a process. But I'll be curious
26:30
Speaker 1: to see how he does in this role. If you
26:34
Speaker 1: want to be positive about it, maybe this is better
26:37
Speaker 1: suited for Drew Anderson. He's been up and down this year.
26:40
Speaker 1: Everybody knows this, but he was brought in with the
26:44
Speaker 1: thought in mind like this guy is or could be
26:48
Speaker 1: or ought to be used in some fashion if need be,
26:52
Speaker 1: as a starting pitcher.
26:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and going to the bullpen was a
26:56
Speaker 3: tough adjustment for him right off the bat, and that's
26:59
Speaker 3: why you got off your really bad start to the season.
27:02
Speaker 3: He just wasn't used to it. And he has improved
27:05
Speaker 3: and then been kind of up and down. But you
27:07
Speaker 3: obviously to see the stuff is there with Drew Anderson.
27:11
Speaker 3: This has been probably the most positive podcast we've done
27:15
Speaker 3: since when. I don't know, so if I we gotta
27:21
Speaker 3: have some some edge here, aj Hinch said Jackson Job
27:25
Speaker 3: and Drew Anderson. He basically said, they're going to stretch
27:27
Speaker 3: both of them out responsibly. So I'm not expecting either
27:30
Speaker 3: of those guys to come out throw a hundred pitches.
27:33
Speaker 3: You know what that means, Karen, That means this bullpen
27:35
Speaker 3: is gonna have to eat some more innings for two
27:38
Speaker 3: fifths of the rotation going forward. That makes me a
27:42
Speaker 3: little uncomfortable. You better keep leveraging, yeah, leverage innings and
27:47
Speaker 3: not just let it. I mean might have bull going
27:49
Speaker 3: be going to the bullpen in the fifth, the sixth inning,
27:52
Speaker 3: you better keep scoring eight plus runs.
27:57
Speaker 1: Well look, recent recent trend say that that with like
28:01
Speaker 1: it's just gonna happen, Cody. So we'll see, We'll see
28:04
Speaker 1: what happens moving forward with the rest of the Seattle series.
28:08
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