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Extra Innings Episode 6- More Banter From Jake and Matt From Providence · Sports Card Clubhouse

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  Welcome to Extra Innings on the Sports Card Clubhouse with the
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  hit list of Jake and Matt from Providence, the number one
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  dealer in New England. So I've heard.
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  So I've heard. How's it going?
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  Good. Yeah, good.
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  Glad to be back. We're back.
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  Yeah. We.
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  We. The mouse on that petty.
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  The bleep button. I got my.
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  My ears are. Rigging.
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  Unbelievable. My ears are rigging.
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  All those, all that bleeping. Yeah, we, we didn't record last
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  week because we had one in the cans that you listen to if you
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  already heard that. So we're back this week and I
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  wanted to talk about something that sort of originates from a
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  conversation on a different sports card.
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  Clubhouse podcast. Turn back the Clock with Adam
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  Splendid Sports and Dylan Double D vintage baseball cards. 2
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  tremendous guys I love their content, I love what they talk
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  about but you know, I think sometimes you hear things and
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  you kind of like think about it and makes you think a little bit
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  differently about it and maybe you don't totally agree and I
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  just wanted to wanted to talk about the autograph discussions
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  it. Is Adam from Splendid He's part
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  of like the clubhouse hierarchy. The the hierarchy.
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  Yes, he is. He's.
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  One of the code makers and you're going to badmouth him.
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  I'm not bad mouth, Matt. You're going to get me in
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  trouble. I'm not bad mouthing anybody.
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  It's OK to. You're going to bad mouth and am
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  I going to get you in trouble? You're just killing.
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  Me. Are you people hearing this?
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  Do you hear what he's saying? I never.
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  You're going to get mad. I'm not.
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  That is a troublemaker. This is what I've learned about
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  him in our our time as a friend. I'm anti trouble.
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  I OK Oh, dear. You.
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  You're start. You're starting trouble right
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  now with me is what you're doing.
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  Let's talk about autographs, Matt.
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  So those guys. How you disagree with those
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  other guys I guess. I, I just, I thought it was
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  interesting to hear them talk about the sort of prevalence or
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  how much they liked pack pulled autos and how that was kind of
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  like what they. Think was kind of what was that
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  their opinion? I don't want to, like, put words
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  in their mouth exactly, but I know that.
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  Adam, did you listen? To the show, was that the
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  opinion or not? Adam was talking about like his
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  hierarchy of like what he likes for autographs and he said that
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  pack pulled autos was like at the top.
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  You did say that we got to. Get off this channel.
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  Guy's a crazy person. Guy's a crazy person.
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  He's a crazy. Person see, now you're get, now
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  you're starting trouble. Now you're.
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  I didn't say that. You open Pandora's box.
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  This is your fault. I don't watch that.
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  You watched it and now you're going to get me involved.
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  This is your fault. First you got Mike last week
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  telling me I'm top three. Absurd.
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  Now splendid. Pack pulled.
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  Pack pulled. Yeah.
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  On Did he say had to be on card, So at least while the player was
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  signing the one millionth autograph, he at least touched
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  the thing for a second. I think like that was, I think
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  that was kind of the gist that I got was that it was.
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  Not a sticker I assume. I don't know does anybody like
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  sticker autos like I don't know how anybody can like it.
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  I don't get it like it just I think it's awful.
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  I think I on card auto 100%. I don't I don't know any how
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  anybody can like like sticker autos.
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  I don't get it and one of the things.
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  Like the guy signed it and put the sticker on the card himself.
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  And there's so much chicanery fraud and stuff like that.
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  Like those guys talked about this dude, I said chicanery all.
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  Right. Be careful.
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  You're going to have to point out for me.
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  All of a sudden. The I'm trying to.
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  Run a clean show here people. Pulling the sticker autos off of
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  1 off of 1 card and trying to put it on another.
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  Card. I tell you what I bought.
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  I bought a Beckett Slab 58, Jim Brown with a sticker auto on it.
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  Somebody pulled from somebody else.
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  I didn't realize too fast with the bidding.
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  I didn't pay attention. No good.
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  No good. That's a bad.
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  That's a bad one. I think I lost.
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  A couple of shekels on that one. My my my viewpoint, I've
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  definitely evolved my viewpoint on autographs in general.
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  I would say if you asked me like 2 years ago my opinion on
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  autographed cards, baseball cards, football cards, whatever
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  my opinion would be, well, you ruined the card by doing that.
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  Like by by someone. Told you to have that opinion.
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  You're probably right. But I'm telling you because,
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  because when I, when we were, we're the same age when we were
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  kids, they would say at least for rookie cards for sure as I
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  remember it. But I, I wouldn't be surprised
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  as well. You don't have to sign the card.
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  It'll ruin the card car's worth more than the autograph that
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  was. Wrong, buddy.
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  Was that? Was that wrong?
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  I agree. So I would say even until very
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  recently, I wouldn't really go out of my way to buy autograph
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  cards. And I still kind of am like
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  that. But my feeling of like what I
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  love the most in the autograph doing all of this.
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  And I know it's, it's, it's a discipline and it takes time to
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  do it, but doing TTM has been such a blast.
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  It is unlocked this whole level of my collecting.
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  And I know like, without going into too much detail, like I've
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  had a little bit more time over the last couple months to be
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  able to do it, just, you know, things.
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  My schedule is a little bit more open at the moment.
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  And that's part of why I've gotten into it and part of it is
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  like, I haven't had my, you know, I've been, you know, try
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  to be a little bit more careful with my hobby funds over the
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  last couple months and, you know, doing TTM.
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  Although I have to say, I went out today to Staples and I spent
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  like $60.00 on TTM things, supplies I needed for TTM.
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  That maybe is more about worldwide things.
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  So we don't need to get into that, but it's, it is, it's been
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  so fun to be the one who personally, like I, I put in the
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  effort to get the autograph myself, whether it's, you know,
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  and, and you're Matt, you're, you're an, you're an analog guy.
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  So I think you can appreciate this.
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  You're you're you're a guy that appreciates the sort of.
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  If you're going to insult me, at least use words I can
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  understand. You're not really a digital guy.
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  You're more of an analog guy. You're more of a you have railed
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  against modernity recently. You've said this on the hit
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  list, other things. So what?
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  So you know, what I do is I write a handwritten note with
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  every single one of my TTMS. Oh, I sit this and write that
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  write outs Mr. So and so. It's nice.
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  You keep them really know throw out with the envelope I.
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  My assumption is that probably a lot of them do throw it away,
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  but my hopefully some of them appreciate it.
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  No, it's not in the refrigerator.
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  Well, either way, I think it's a nice thing 'cause I'm sending it
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  to. I'm sending these to A to a
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  member of an older generation when that type of thing was the
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  norm most of. These guys, you spend the money.
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  If they if they have a fee, yes. But I'm, but what I'm telling
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  you is that most of these guys are in their 70s and 80s.
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  Some of them in their in their 90s.
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  How long is the secretary that signs the autograph?
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  I'm just kidding. You're.
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  Killing me, man, you're killing me.
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  No, like, oh, and you're right. I don't know if they're signing
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  it or not, but I I assume they are, but you know, I don't see
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  them actually do it. But to me that is the.
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  If that Maserati autograph comes in the mail next week.
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  You know, it's yeah, it's it's no good.
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  That to me is means more like if I opened a pack of cards and I
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  pulled a sweet autograph out of it, that would be awesome.
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  Like I don't know if you saw somebody pulled like the the
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  Topps heritage like gold Roman Anthony, like one of one Otto
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  like out of like a hobby box that they bought at GameStop or
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  something like that. Yeah, I heard about that.
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  I would have been that banger or something.
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  I don't even think it was a hobby.
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  That card looks sick too. Like that card, like a it's the
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  77 style and Roman Anthony to me looks like he's a player from
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  the 70s. Like I just thought it was it
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  was awesome. He stays.
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  Healthy boy. Me too.
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  We need him. We can't.
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  That's why we can't go to any games anymore because the game
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  that we went to last year was a game where you got hurt.
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  I mean, I'm going. You're not invited, but I'm
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  going. Yeah.
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  So, so if you pull, if you pull out of the pack, that's awesome
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  to me. Like the especially like a
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  sticker auto, like recent card. It's just not the same to me as
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  an as an auto that I went out and got myself.
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  Does nothing for me. So yeah, what are what are your
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  thoughts about that? Yeah, there's nothing.
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  Follow me. I'm I'm, I'm definitely vintage
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  card signed ballpoint pen. I'm in.
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  I'd I'd prefer not a blue Sharpie that, you know, couldn't
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  have been signed until 1997. You know, I just, I hate that.
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  I'll take it. I'm the right guy and
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  everything, but I hate it. I hate it.
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  Yeah, that's right. I.
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  Guess yeah, I so definitely like the the original era like
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  ballpoint pen signatures on the cars like the ones that you know
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  the great ones from Jackie Robinson like that our our
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  friend Tony Southern collector has been so fortunate enough to
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  to add to his collection. I mean, those are incredible.
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  Like that's the, that is the, I agree that that's the pinnacle,
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  like the, the, the period, like time period signed card from
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  that time of those cards, like fifties, 60s, whatever cards
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  like that's the top of the list. Like that's the best stuff that
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  you can get. I would say that like for me and
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  I and so, yeah, like a lot of my 68 TTMS, most of them are,
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  they're cards from 1968 signed in 2026 with like a Sharpie.
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  But there are autographs I got myself.
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  Like, I don't know, like I wouldn't buy, I wouldn't go out
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  right now and buy a, a sign because I'm looking at one right
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  now. Like I wouldn't go out and buy a
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  graded signed 68 tops Jim Palmer that was signed like clearly it
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  was signed with a Sharpie. Like I wouldn't buy one of
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  those, but I got that sign myself.
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  It was from myself. So, so to me, it's more special
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  and I'm not looking to, you know, and and again, all cards,
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  every card that we don't. What's that?
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  What's Palmer charge? 10 bucks he's cheap.
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  Wow. Compared to a lot of and you can
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  send the rookie card. Yeah, I don't think he charges
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  extra for the rookie. I don't think so.
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  Wow, that's not bad. I, I, I felt, I feel like, yeah,
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  like if you bought me doing that, doing this project and
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  getting them signed is, is it's been the fun part of it.
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  But yeah. And you were talking about the
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  your Reggie White good cards like no, you were talking about.
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  Yeah, yeah. So he's a, he's a great example
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  because because he died young and he he died right when
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  sticker autos came out or pack pole autos came out.
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  So he has like one year of sticker autos, maybe 2.
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  So he has just just two or three 3 or 4 cards that auto they're
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  very, you know, limited print run obviously.
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  And his sticker autos and I get it because he doesn't have a lot
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  of sticker autos go for huge money.
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  But guess what else doesn't have a lot of on card autos, in
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  person autos because it just wasn't a thing as crazy as now.
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  And and they sell for two to $500.00 for the in person auto
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  for a guy who died very young and was able to hold that card
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  versus a sticker auto that came out, you know, right after he
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  died or, or right when he died. I just, I don't know the the in
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  person auto. The guy held it, you know, a kid
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  probably handed it to him. I think it's really much better.
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  Yeah, yeah. No, I, I I agree with that.
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  I mean those those new sticker autos that the Reggie White ones
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  for example go for $2000. That's correct.
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  The guy didn't even touch the card.
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  Yeah, right. You know, yeah, yeah, No, I I
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  think it's, it's different strokes for different folks.
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  Like if you if you like the the pack pulled stuff like I don't,
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  you know, that's that's your prerogative.
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  I don't, I don't, I don't you, you can like what you like, but
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  I just it goes back to to. Me it's like.
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  Did the did the guy, did the guy, did the guy touch the card
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  or not? Like to me, I think that is
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  actually really important. Did the guy touch the card And
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  how do you feel about somebody? My hands.
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  They can. There's obviously there's
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  nothing wrong with this, but how do you feel about the idea of
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  somebody like so? So one of the examples that they
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  gave was that Adam had one of these early 90s cards, the ones
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  that were like the Mantle and Griffey, and it was just signed
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  by the like, I think some of them I, it was, I think it was
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  must have been upper deck, right, Like they did.
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  Some of them were just signed by one or the other and some of
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  them were signed by both. He had one of the ones that was
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  signed by Mantle that was not signed by Griffey that he, I
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  guess he sold it and apparently the guy that bought it is going
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  to like crack it out and send it to Griffey to try to get it
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  signed. How do you feel about that
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  'cause that was like a pack pulled.
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  It was, it was a pack. Awesome.
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  I think that's awesome. Really interesting.
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  I think that's so cool. Those guys disagree.
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  Really interesting. I think that's so cool.
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  I think that is so, so cool. I think it's stupid that Tops or
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  Upper Deck released that card with one guy signing it.
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  I think that's absurd. I think it's so, so stupid.
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  I love that this guy's like, finishing what they could have
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  done. Interesting.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I I don't have a.
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  Yeah, I don't have a. Again, if it you have your card,
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  it goes back to the thing we were talking.
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  About well, what if like so that card came out in 92.
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  Let's say Mantle doesn't die for three more years.
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  If somebody went and grabbed his auto on the Griffey, only one,
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  you'd be against that. I'm not saying I'm against it,
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  I'm just saying like I'm fine with it if you, if you own the
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  card, you do what you want with it.
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  Like that's I don't have, I don't have a problem with it as
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  long as, you know, does it have to be some sort of if you get it
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  graded after you do that, does it have to be sort of designated
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  that it what, because I think what they did was that they,
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  they must have they, I think they serial numbered each of the
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  cards in terms of like, was it just signed by Mantle?
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  Was it just signed by Griffey? Was it signed by both?
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  So I think that if you tried to, I would be interested if you got
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  the one of those cards that was only signed by Mantle, signed by
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  Griffey and then you tried to grade it like what would how
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  would? They yeah, I bet.
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  I'm sure PSAPSA would have a designation about how it went
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  down, but I think it's very cool because.
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  Here's what is. The first thing that came to
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  mind and why I went oh, that's cool, is because when Griffey,
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  if Griffey gets that card in his hand, he's going to go, oh,
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  that's cool. Yeah, so there you go.
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  He's going to. Oh, I remember when I signed to
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  these. Do you know what I mean?
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  Like, oh, it's a shame Mickey didn't sign.
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  So like, you're going to get something out of the guy like
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  the signer, and I think that's cool and he's going to think
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  it's cool. It's cool.
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  Yeah. He's not going to think, oh,
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  these again. The pack, the pack pulled, yeah,
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  the pack pulled autos from that time period, like early 90s,
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  like the upper deck ones. And I guess tops must have
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  gotten into it too. Those are all on card autos.
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  There's no, those are not stick around.
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  And so that's what's, and then what's cool to me is that a lot
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  of those, I'm sure some of those are still floating around, you
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  know, like some of those like in packs, you know?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually, I wanted, I wanted
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  to because it would have been more for our our audience on
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  YouTube. I wanted to see if I had one of
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  those packs and open it live and see if I could pull one.
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  But I unfortunately. I have not.
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  I have not. Unfortunately I don't have any
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  of the upper deck packs at the moment that had.
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  Those upper deck baseball ones are beautiful.
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  The the Williams and Nolan Ryan, Reggie Jackson, all those are
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  beautiful, beautiful cards. Yeah, yeah, if you're going to
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  get pack pulled auto, those were the ones for sure.
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  All right. Have we sufficiently made people
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  enough people mad today? You.
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  You. Maybe you?
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  Oh yeah, because I was the one that brought up brought it up
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  right. OK, I got a by the time people
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  listen to this well, they probably won't know this, but I
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  did get AI did get like Tony Larussa 68 tops back in the mail
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  signed to that or yesterday or no, I guess it would have been
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  Sunday. I opened it yesterday, so that
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  was cool. Oh.
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  She got that back to you fast. Oh, no, actually he got it was
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  it took him a little over three months to get it back to me,
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  which is kind of the longest that I've had so far.
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  I had to, you know, what was interesting was that you sent it
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  his sending it to him was like care of the White Sox, which is
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  interesting because he hasn't been their manager for a few
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  years. So they must.
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  You send it to the White Sox and then?
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  They just go pay that later to sign.
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  It it took three months to get it back.
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  All right, like comment, subscribe.
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  Like comment, subscribe and and what?
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  I'm just getting a card so that the people that are watching
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  that can like post. What do you say?
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  What do you say? Like, comment, subscribe and
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  collect if you just let me say it.